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30th Nov: That Saturday Feeling - Poor Old Pep, Christmas Round Ange's and Hey Ruud!
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Welcome to That Saturday Feeling, a brand new weekly podcast that's as much a part of your weekend routine as Match of the Day, ill-fated DIY and dragging yourself through an hour's HIIT class just to feel less guilty about your bacon sarnie.
This week we explore Manchester City’s shocking slump, Pep Guardiola’s eccentric antics, and Tottenham’s unpredictable form—beating City but losing to Ipswich and Palace, while coping with a goalkeeper crisis. We also welcome Ruud van Nistelrooy to Leicester, preview Liverpool vs. City under Arne Slot, and chat about at Noel Gallagher’s annoyingly justifiable claim that Spurs are “the biggest frauds” in the Premier League. Plus, we discuss Ed Sheeran’s unexpected Sky Sports gatecrash and wonder which managers are looking forward to Christmas.
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Introduction to the Premier League Show
00:00:02
Speaker
Hello and welcome to that Saturday feeling, a brand new Premier League show that promises to be as awkward as an Ed Sheeran embrace on live TV. Yep, every week we'll be rounding up the best of the Premier League action, as well as all of our fave stuff from across the global sports podcast network.
Key Topics Overview: Manchester City, Tottenham, Leicester City
00:00:16
Speaker
Today we're talking city slump peps existential crisis and Tottenham's keeper concerns, plus a rude awakening at Leicester City. Now remember you can have your say at GSPN official. Now we've got a real smorgasbord of podcast experience.
00:00:30
Speaker
with us today um for your, for your delectation. I don't know, I'm just going to do it, as I can see it on the screen, introduce kind of everybody from left
Meet the Hosts: Joe Forrester, Nick Britton, Jesse Sawa
00:00:39
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to right. And I'm Joe Forrester, by the way, so part of the Global Sports Podcast Network here. um I'm sure you've probably all heard the Daily Tottenham Podcast, some of the finest broadcasting around. But I'll just start in the top left as well with our ah our token depressed Derby fan, Nick Britton. You're right, Nick.
00:00:54
Speaker
Now I'm glad you've come to me first because on my screen I'm bottom and I presume you've just come to me last as arguably the worst team in the group. So now I'm very well, thank you very much and an absolute pleasure to be here. It's great to see Liverpool and Spurs fans on the same room because I'm just wondering how this is going to go.
00:01:09
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ah correct um And speaking of Liverpool fans, actually, let's drop down because we've got Jesse Sawa here, Liverpool fan. How are you doing, mate? Drop down. yeah Sorry. Sorry. Top of the league. Host of the Daily live Liverpool podcast. ah Very happy to be here to talk about all things Liverpool.
00:01:27
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And Kate Monroe as well, Leeds fan, I've not heard of Leeds, you might have to fill people in. Yeah, I'm i'm very, very happy to be here and talk talk about Leeds, who are finally top of the championship.
Premier League Teams Spotlight: Leeds and Wrexham
00:01:38
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um And yes, so looking forward to staying staying there for the next sort of couple of weeks. See how we go on from there.
00:01:46
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so Sadly, it is a Premier League show, so Leeds didn't make the running order, but there's always next season. I know. There's always next season. And speaking of forthcoming Premier League giants, um Ken, do you want to tell us who your team is? Yeah, I'm Ken Davis. I am a Rexton supporter. I'm being a Rexton supporter, man and boy. And believe me, that was when dinosaurs Rome the Earth. So it was ah it's wonderful to to be on this. I'm going to take a bit of a helicopter view on this because um I see the Premier League at a distance. you know I'm still League One focused, but of course, be fascinated by yeah by the Premier League forever. So ah yeah, I think sometimes you know you need to step outside the Premier League to get a proper perspective on it. So that's hopefully what I'm going to be yeah contributing to this this load of nonsense over the next 30 minutes. Man City fans will be doing that soon, Ken.
00:02:36
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Just swapping places. Ken, don't think i I missed your Darren Brown mind control trick there, where you said, I still have a League One view. The implication being that Premier League is coming. ah There's no no question. we we're on We're on a ah very fast upward trajectory, and it's going to see Birmingham falling away, struggling at the moment. and that yeah I mean, it's just as obvious as Liverpool winning this league's Premier League that we're going to end up there in the course of the next next couple of years.
00:03:04
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I think that's probably quite a good place to start. Obviously Liverpool are top of
Is Manchester City in Decline?
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the league. Something that's helped with that has been City's slump. ah Jesse, how how delighted were you last weekend when you saw the mighty Spurs trample Peps citizens into the ground? Yeah, delighted. I mean, my my brother, unfortunately, is ah is a season ticket holder at Spurs. Great guy. so Yeah, great guy. So he he was over the moon as well. But um I wasn't surprised they'd lost.
00:03:30
Speaker
I was surprised in the by the manner in which they lost and and how much they lost by, but so I think this is more than a slump. Obviously, we'll come um into that maybe more in detail but ah later in the podcast, but I think that this is more than a slump. I think that this is a crisis for Manchester City.
00:03:50
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um yeah they because because i Nick, there's been some unironic calls for for Pep out this week. is that Is that realistic? It's not realistic because it's just signed a new deal, but it does it does shine a light on um modern football day supporting it. and I'm delighted to see Manchester City supporters in such turmoil because ah frankly they deserve it because really they've all they've had it their own way. They've had it their own way for years and years and years now.
00:04:16
Speaker
And I heard something on the radio the other day, a fan saying, well, look, you know I've been supporting Manchester City since standing on the Kipax at Main Road. And um we just enjoy the good times. And then straight after that was somebody who was quite a lot younger, who just can't cope with what's going on at the moment, because all they've known is just successes. They can't deal with it. ah So any calls for Pep said is is is, of course, utterly, utterly ridiculous.
00:04:42
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but What is going on there? Does it mean that actually we are finally seeing this kind of decline?
Guardiola's Challenges and Public Reactions
00:04:50
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And those of us of a certain age, you've seen it happen with Liverpool in the 80s, seen it happen with Manchester United. Football is very cyclical. This will happen. Manchester City cannot stay top of the Premier League and win it every year for the rest of time. So it'll be really interesting to see whether this is actually the start of something a little bit more long term where everybody else has a go.
00:05:10
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Hey, does does it feel like Pep's in crisis? Because he's there's been all this strange behavior in him kind of talking about the marks on his face and all that sort of thing. And I know part of Pep's mistake is to be like a slightly sort of unhinged magician, but he does seem like he's feeling it a little bit.
00:05:28
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Well, I listened to him in the yeah um in the after um-match press conference. And to be honest with you, I thought he was pretty pragmatic about it. um I think he's used to this. He said he's used to this. He said that you know City can't can't go on forever and a day winning. I think the plays and the mentality of the players is the thing that's that's kind of um going to taken a hit, I think. you know They're not used to losing losing. They're not as experienced as he is.
00:05:56
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um So i think I think he's pragmatic about it. He did say this weekend's match against um ah Liverpool is is pivotal um because if they lose it opens up 11 points at the top of the table and there's no way he didn't think that, well he didn't say never but he kind of implied that um So I don't know. I don't think he's in crisis. I mean, I think he's he's old enough and wise enough to to kind of know this is the way things go. You know, as as Nick said, football is cyclical at the end of the day. You know, you've got to take the ups and the downs and they're going through downs at the moment. It's easy to be pragmatic, but it looks like somebody's head butters you on the nose, though, isn't it? and that was a yeah yeah It came out that press conference was looking extraordinary.
00:06:39
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I mean, it sets social media alight, as you would expect it to do, but that, that cut on his nose, which he later claimed was a, is scratching his nose and it's caused by a nail. He's, he must have some very, very sharp nails. Cause that, imagine how he's going to look after Sunday. Well, probably quite, probably quite happy. Cause there's every chance they'll go win.
00:06:56
Speaker
No, there is. there There's every chance there were because the thing is, how long can City keep losing for? It's got to come to an end this right. I think that anyone in the UK is going to hope that it comes after Sunday, but so they can't keep losing matches. But I do think that they are in crisis. And the reason why is I think that they've misjudged how this squad is aging.
Manchester City's Squad Ageing Issues
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And I think that they've got too many players who are aging at the same time, the likes of Kyle Walker, likes De Bruyne. Liverpool went through this with their midfield, a season or so ago with Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Winaldum, all going over 30 years old. And they just fell off a cliff and Liverpool completely cleared out that midfield. They've got a new midfield, they're flying, I think City are gonna,
00:07:48
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struggle this season to get back to those heights. I don't think it's a cyclical thing because they've just got too much money for it to be a cyclical thing. I think that they'll address it over two transfer windows and they'll be back next season. But this season, I think that, you know, Liverpool, I think other other teams can really go for them.
00:08:05
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One of the most iconic moments of the football season so far was seeing Verda run past Walker like he wasn't there. And now, obviously, everybody knows Carl Walker for his pace and his strength and his people just can't, you know, you'll never get past Carl Walker. You'll never beat Carl Walker. And and and that's his trademark. And to see Verda run past him literally like he wasn't there. was ah It was a jaw-dropping moment in the season. It's one of the most remarkable things ah you'll see. Well, probably the second most remarkable, because the the most remarkable thing was seeing Werner kick a ball into a net, which is something that you don't ever see. But but it was, and and I think you're right, Jesse, and as much as maybe that's it, maybe maybe it's just that aging process suddenly, collectively, has caught up with him.
00:08:52
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Yeah, i think and just just something to add to that, I think, because there's an argument that actually, you know, statistically, you're gonna, if you took a million games, you're going to lose three on the run, it's just a statistical blip. The thing is, this isn't that I think there's a culmination of things taking place at City, which actually signal the end of an era, really. Jesse's put his finger on the aging thing. Injuries have been horrible to the rotary loss. I was thinking about the game at the weekend in terms of why City, I don't think City will win at the weekend. I think Liverpool will win at the weekend. And I'm thinking, what's the big difference between those two teams? And for me, it's
Tottenham vs. Manchester City Defensive Analysis
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the defensive midfielder role.
00:09:37
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<unk>s not It's not Haaland and Sauer. You've got Gravenberch playing fantastically well for Liverpool. you've got And Rodry is injured. That's the big difference for me for City and Liverpool. I just think City have lost. They are really ah have real problems with counter-attacks now. Part of all that is the fact that they they they just haven't got that they're not set up in a defensive midfield.
00:10:03
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manner in any way and that' that just leaves him wide open. Liverpool have got that really well covered at the moment. I think that's a big difference and I think Liverpool are going to go and beat him again and I think we'll be saying that's the end of the season in terms of from a championship perspective.
00:10:18
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Uh, but what does that say about Ken? What does that say about man city? What does it say about Pep Guardiola? Well, it says he says and fall about but fall, fall apart by the absence of just one player and Liverpool's defensive midfielder. Let's not forget. Gravenberg is not a DM.
00:10:33
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he's an nobody's playing where he's playing that role well he's an converted attacking midfielder yeah but playing that role on I think there's a couple of things just picking up on that. And and then I'll keep quiet for a minute, which is, which is, you know, you're right. I think we've got a team in city just as Nick was saying about isn't it strange because the support is not used to losing. You know what? The players aren't used to losing. They don't, they've kind of, they've become a bit lazy in terms of one, you know, the game during the course this week.
00:11:02
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They didn't, the game management was horrible. They kind of forgotten how to win. They've forgotten about what it takes, not not to conceive. And I thought that was very clear. I think there's been a big issue in terms of recruitment at City for a couple of seasons now. I think that but there's a load of imbalance in the team.
00:11:20
Speaker
You've got overstock in certain key positions, you've got understock in some key positions, you've got the aging thing going on. I just think there's a lot of moving parts at City at the moment and none of them are good. Yeah and the FFP as well. That's going to be, I'm going to hear about that before the end of the year aren't we? So that that in itself and you know that's a cloud hanging over everybody I would imagine as well.
00:11:45
Speaker
Well this is, the and I think you'll you'll find this as well on on Sunday Jesse, I i watched it as a Tottenham fan and I just thought this lot can't defend, which is insane to be saying that because it's theoretically the best team in Europe that we're watching and if that is just the absence of one defensive midfielder, that feels like a glaring tactical omission to me and and Liverpool are I hate to admit a far finer team than Tottenham, so i think I think City will struggle on Sunday. um That being said... so it must be It must be rare, Joe, it must be rare for you to look at the TV and say, oh God, this lot can't defend and not be talking about your own team. Exactly, exactly. No, Nick, do you know what? I was just like, oh yeah, like when when ben when Ben Davis... is is schooling Pat Guardiola on the armpits that way. Ben, I'm just saying. and Can I make one other point about which is on my mind? Oh, I thought you were talking to your Ligue 1 boss. Honestly, it's driving drive me crazy about City, and I want everyone to be honest, is the the absolute dependency on Haaland
00:12:45
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absolute dependency on Harland and the sense that, you you know, Harland is a magnificent, get into the res and he would walk into the Rexham team, but, you know, where where's your the other goals coming from?
00:12:59
Speaker
if you' sit harland out but again get your you're touching on the same problem here yeah yeah're you're saying that they're falling apart defensively because of one player rorie and now they're falling apart up top because of one player i think i think that is a big big um in liverpool ah man city is it might of have developed options right the way across the squad, where if if Salah's not playing, if Diaz is he chipping said Harland out in with goals, Gackpo's chipping in with goals. And even across the back line, I mean, there's all this talk about Trent leaving. And look at Conor Bradley, he has stepped in
00:13:38
Speaker
um hella her in goal we've got the best goalkeeper in the world with allison we've got the best all right all right don't absolutely you've made no doubt that of course people can't you hella her has made us forget that allison is not playing and people going on about injuries with other teams he's not that good jesse he's not that good kella her Keller, he's the best number two in the world. Bar none. He's absolutely number two. He's one goalkeeper that's better than Keller at the moment. Vicario. Oh, Vicario. He's struggling already. Vicario with a broken ankle. No, no, no. I can't. But he's not. Look, I played dream team, right? So far, Keller has let me down. Harlan's let me down. I think that's edge management. I think that's edge management.
00:14:24
Speaker
Harlins let me down, yeah. Well look look City are struggling with injuries obviously, we're talking Stones, Docu, Oscar Bob at the moment, obviously Rodry, kind of a ah glaring one for them. But potential potential dark cloud over the happy camp that is Anfield is Mohamed Salah's contract
Mohamed Salah's Contract Controversy
00:14:40
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situation. We'll come to you on this first, Jesse. So his current deal is nearing its final stages. um Talks are ongoing. His agent has highlighted the complexity of negotiations. There's issues over image rights in there. He wants to stay at Liverpool in inverted commas. And obviously the club wants him to stay, but they're trying to plan for the future with this kind of this
00:15:00
Speaker
beautiful rebirth and overhaul as the old Liverpool Caterpillar turns into a butterfly. There's a metaphor in there somewhere, I'm sure. um I've seen some Liverpool fans on on Twitter saying that Salah's comments in the press and disloyalty means he should be dropped for Sunday. ah Jesse, where do you stand on this?
00:15:17
Speaker
No, utterly ridiculous. This happened the last ah round of contract negotiations ah with Salah. Salah will sign. Van Dyck will sign. With Liverpool. With Liverpool. No signs that were submitted. No, they will sign with Liverpool. I think it's going to take a bit of time because the age profile of both players is is one that doesn't fit in naturally with FSG's recruitment policy, but they will sign. The big question mark is over Trent. That's the one that Liverpool fans, I think, have got to be prepared for an exit. I think Trent, I think if he would have if he was going to stay, I think he would have stayed signed by now. I think that the lure of Real Madrid, I think, is just too much. But with Salah, I think if you think about it,
00:16:07
Speaker
Liverpool are his best option to stay at the top, to compete at the top, and to compete for prizes. Where is he going to go? I just don't see many other clubs in world football paying his wages. He'd have to go to the MLS, he'd have to go to Saudi, and I think he's too good. He's got two or three years left at the top. His physical condition is just phenomenal.
00:16:29
Speaker
um And so I think that he will stay. It may take a bit of time. I think it might even go beyond January the 1st where he can potentially sign for other clubs. But I think Salah and Van Dijk sign for Liverpool. I think that's that's fair. I mean, the point being is where else is he going to go? I think your point your point about it's his best opportunity to stay at the top is right because no other of the big teams are going to sign him. So if he leaves Liverpool, he's not going to go somewhere on that level. So he is going to have to step down. He can make more money somewhere else. He can go and play at recs in Ken perhaps. and and but but you're But you're probably right. What I don't like about this, and this happens every time with Salah, is this kind of
00:17:14
Speaker
It's always a churn. It's never easy. It's never simple. It always seems to turn into a real soap opera and a drama. And so, you know, it's ah it's probably, I'm sure Liverpool fans find it fascinating, but everybody else finds it a bit, finds it a bit dull. If you want to sign a contract, c sign a contract, get it, get it sorted out and done.
00:17:30
Speaker
But which other elite players, ah is is it a routine um you know signing of ah of of a ah renegotiation of renegotiation of contract? His contract is so complicated but by his age, by his his wages, his image rights. He has a global image brand. many um jesse His demands, that's what's complicating it, his demands.
00:17:55
Speaker
or million more yeah and That's normal in in top like flight-flight football. If you've got an elite athlete, it it's not going to be just a tick in the box. It is going to be complicated. Who wants to hear about it from, though? Sorry? We don't hear the same thing happening with Harland or anybody like that, do we? Jesse, how's Harland's up in renegotiation yet? And when it when it is, he'll be up to Real Madrid.
00:18:16
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But can i could i can I just ask you, Jesse? Sorry. it's it's um this is This is a negotiating platform, right, from from his agent. So that's that's what they do. They sow this discord and unrest knowing that they're ultimately in a more powerful position because the club and the fans want to keep the player. That being said, the player has to sign off on this as a tactic. And you don't have to do that as a professional footballer. You can't just renegotiate your contracts and keep it going behind the scenes because, let's face it, you're not going to run out of dough. So this is ultimately coming from the player.
00:18:46
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah every every employee and a player is an employee of a club, they need to feel valued. tell so oh oh don't don't tell are absolute rubbish perhaps so it's absolute rubbish no be my feel value of the day and You the first can go can go to another club. And so every every player who's in the last three or four months of his contract,
00:19:11
Speaker
I can't think of a single player who would not say, who would not push to have a new contract put before it. Namely one player. I tell you what, I would love it. I would love it if, it sorry, i kept the go down Kevin Keegan wrote it. yeah hold a hand it'd be great if If Liverpool called his bluff and said, no, you know what, this has been dragging off too long, sorry. I'd love to see what happens.
00:19:31
Speaker
Well, can I just add something to this? It was two things. Firstly, I want to know who's managing our image rights, by the way. That's not been made clear in any way. No one wanted them, Ken. Oh. That was a problem. Yeah. I think the second point is relevant. You tell me whether you think this is relevant or not. And by the way, I don't think he will sign. And this is why.
00:19:57
Speaker
ah then Anyway, they're an American sports business, aren't they? I mean, it's the Boston Red Sox, isn't it? Pittsburgh, something. Penguins. I know Pittsburgh. I don't know. like pirates like Pirates. Pirates? I don't know. It's something beginning with P. It's the Penguins. It is the Penguins. That's right.
00:20:19
Speaker
ah I watch a lot of American sports and I've been interested in American sports for a while and I'm telling you now, American sports owners are vicious about this stuff and what they will never do. They don't do it in baseball, they don't do it in a and ah in the NFL. They never pay going forward for people's accomplishments looking back.
00:20:41
Speaker
They never say, you've been great between the age of 29 and 32. Here's another three-year deal, because we think you're going to be just as good in 32, 35. They don't do it. They don't do it. They are vicious. They'll say, thanks very much for being brilliant. We just don't think you're going to be that brilliant in the next three years. It happens all the time in the NFL. It happens all the time in Major League Baseball. I've got a feeling they're going to call his bluff and say,
00:21:07
Speaker
You've been magnificent, Mohammed. You've been magnificent. We just don't think you're going to be quite as magnificent in the next three years. What are you going to do about it? I don't think it's going to happen. I think the negotiations apparently are about the length of contract. Yeah, and I think that's part of that. The last campaign is looking for three years. FSG are willing to go to two years. And I think that is where they'll they'll agree on. i think all Actually, sorry, ah FSG apparently are offering a one-year extension. Yeah, I think nomineies's marvel same i think that's part the same thing, isn't it? Two years, I think they'll meet in the middle.
00:21:47
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what now look look we we we do need we we do need to move on here to give poor Jesse a break because it had turned into and shot fire shots shots fired an attack on Liverpool you give as good as you get though Jesse but yeah yeah he a classic playground style he started
00:22:06
Speaker
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00:22:30
Speaker
the Global Sports Podcast Network, every club, every day. Now it's time for the ah obligatory Swift and Jovial Tottenham section. Right, I'm off.
Noel Gallagher's Critique on Tottenham
00:22:41
Speaker
Yeah, go put the kettle on Jesse, I'll let you know when it's over. ah But you know what, right, I mean, everybody knows Spurs have got patchy form, and Beat City twice in the last couple of weeks and Beat Villa lost to Palace and Ipswich, that's fine, it's not It's not Spurs podcast. If only there was a Spurs podcast out there, the Daily Tottenham Podcast. Yeah, that would be good, wouldn't it? Seek that out, I reckon. ah But I just do want to pick up on Noel Gallagher's comments ah this week. So Noel Gallagher said ah he's a lifelong main city fan, of course. And after Spurs ah handed City a 4-0 thrashing on a radio appearance, the rock star dubbed Tottenham the biggest frauds in the Premier League, predicting they'd get battered by Fulham at the weekend.
00:23:21
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obviously yeah a few choice words in there from Noel Gallagher, coming from a place of a place of bitterness and and anger. um Nick, do you do you buy that? ah I wonder what what what does the rest of the world think of Spurs?
00:23:37
Speaker
I think the rest of the world thinks I suppose in broadly the kind of same terms. in as much as yeah i was as as a I was a teenager in the 1980s and anybody who remembers the Spurs team in the 1980s has great kind of fond memories of of the brilliance of the Knights of Honell, of Ricky Villa, Ozi Ardiles, Steve Perrim and really good, you know great great players in those days.
00:23:59
Speaker
and And Spurs are always a team that you think should win something and they're always a team that don't. ah the the what the How they fell away when Leicester won the Premier League a few years ago How Tottenham fell away from that? Because they they were prime prime position to win the Premier League and they just bottled it and it was just terrible to see unless you're a less fan of which it was great. And so caught out of frauds, are they the biggest frauds in football? Well, the problem is they're the biggest flatterers to deceive, no doubt about it, because they're always up there, but they never actually do anything. And so
00:24:34
Speaker
It's a shame. I mean, Tottenham really need to win a cup because they're not going to win the league. So they really, really need to win a cup. They need to get this monkey off their back. But I'll tell you what they are. They're always really entertaining to watch and they're always a good side to be involved with. And if you know you're going to turn on a Tottenham game.
00:24:49
Speaker
you're going to be entertained and it's going to be enjoyable. And from a neutral point of view, that's why they're still one of my favorite Premier League teams. Yeah, I've been trying to distance myself emotionally from the desire to win when watching Spurs under an And just going, just just enjoy it, man. Like, just enjoy it. Like, that's what life's all about. And obviously, that's quite hard to maintain. And and remotes do you get thrown across rooms and stuff when you get shut out by Ipswich at home. But you know what?
00:25:16
Speaker
It is a laugh. And I think that that's I don't know what you think, Kate. I think that's the purpose that Spurs serve in the Premier League to provide everyone everyone with a bit of a laugh. I think it's got to be, hasn't it, at the end of the day? But, you know, that it's not like they haven't had fair cracks of the whip in terms of like managerial or ah appointments, is it? I mean, so so what is behind this? Is it a mentality thing? Is it like, you know, why can't they, you know, step up to the plate when they need it?
00:25:43
Speaker
in ah ah From a genuine point of view, I do think Spurs suffer from having lofty ambitions above their station. So at the end of the day, Spurs think they can compete with Liverpool, Arsenal City, United, Chelsea, kind of financially. And the fact is they just can't. There's a really famous stat from about five years ago where, during a period where Manchester City had spent £490 million pounds on transfers, Tottenham's net spend was £7 million. pounds And there was five transfer windows in a row, very famously under Mauricio Pochettino, when no investment was made. um That's Daniel Levy, isn't it?
00:26:20
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Yeah exactly and Spurs just realistically Tottenham fans should have the same mentality as I don't know a Villa fan or a Brighton fan in terms of operating budget and what we're actually working with. Or Liverpool fans because our net spend is actually lower than Tottenham. But I mean that there has obviously there's this history of success and an investment further back I'm just saying. look ah i mean i think I think Spurs fans need to be slightly more realistic and my point of view is certainly just yet angeball in all its flavours is preferable to conte ball or merino soup or well all of that horrible stuff. um But some excitement potentially making its way to the East Midlands as there's a ah rude awakening in
Leicester City's Managerial Changes
00:27:04
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Leicester. Yeah for the first time in a long time Nick, that part of the country has woken up out of its slumber.
00:27:10
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um What did you make of it? Obviously, are they a Leicester local rivals to Derby? No, no, no. They think they are. They think they are. but Yeah, exactly that. Leicester don't have any rivals, perhaps Coventry, ah but Leicester try and make, Leicester try and make rivals with Derby, with Forest and Coventry. Nobody cares. Literally nobody cares about them. They don't have any rivals. that Nobody's bothered. ah But so it's it's a really interesting side of this. It is a really interesting side. Getting rid of Steve Cooper was a I think it's probably the right thing to do. I'm not in favour of second managers, but there seemed to be, coming out of that club, so much disrupt just of disruption and unrest and the team was performing and nobody was happy with the tactics, the fans were getting on his back.
00:27:53
Speaker
And it's early, early in the season to sack a ah manager. Obviously this kind of international break is is known as the sacking break and we've seen a couple go now. But bringing van Nissenberry on was a bit of a left field move, wasn't it? After his sort of tiny little cameo at Man U when he'd done sort of reasonably okay. ah it's It's just like, well, where's where's this come from? it It doesn't smack to me that Leicester had a plan.
00:28:20
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doesn't but but Is it because he's sort of transformed himself from looking a bit like he's sort of in the early noughties, a kind of pantomime horse with a boy band haircut to now he sort of is quite a handsome... Like a GQ. I thought you were describing i thought you'd describing Nick then because I don't know if that's almost word for word what people were saying.
00:28:43
Speaker
no no similar yeah similar to the gq model bit i think you'll agree yeah yeah that's what he looks like now he's reinvented himself to look to look like a football manager he sort of looks like somebody who's solving a murder in a stylish scandy thriller I'll tell you what it is. It's the modern day. This is the look now, because we've seen the guy, and we've seen him made it out again. They're all, this is definitely the look, you know, out, out. This all began, I'll tell you where this all began. This began with Wickham Wanderers, ah Gareth Aisworth, who looks like a rock star, who turned up in jeans on the on the touchline, jeans and a leather jacket, long hair, yeah you know, and and and that was the best thing he ever did.
00:29:18
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and this modern footballers managers now peps or does it you know you don't turn you don't need to turn up in in shorts and a training top like you used to modern managers are all suave sophisticated yeah have jackets and trousers and all that kind of i want a football manager to look like a shambling wreck i saw yeah i kind of like i kind of like seeing somebody like sammy lee used to be in like a full kit you know full kit like he's just about to come on roy hudson kind of like that as well wouldn't he Big tone. Yeah, someone in a full length coat who looks like they're offering you a quaver at a bus stop. That kind of... I've got to have any odd blokes in full length coats who've offered you quavers at a bus stop. but doesn't explain a little bit more about you yeah Can I just make a point about this though? which which i I think this story is going to fail and this is why I think it's going to fail.
00:30:09
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ah I don't know, yeah it's a very skilled set very different skill set for being a great player, to being a great manager and very few, very very few make that ah transition. I mean Rooney's the obvious case in here that a great player thought you wouldn't have him running in a corner shop. but yeah Let's be honest,
00:30:30
Speaker
Guadioli hasn't done too bad. Yeah, Guadioli hasn't done too bad, but we've seen, let's say, Man United players who have gone into management, and I just think there's such a different skill set. You can't bear it down. You can't bear it down, just to say you're in an argument, by the way. No, the interesting thing is that Van Nistelroy's got a very, very, very small sample size of being a manager.
00:30:55
Speaker
very small and he did okay and then suddenly he's managing a Premier League team and I just think it's a big leap that I think it's full of risk. Going back to what Nick's point was, rare that I agree with Nick but I do on this, it doesn't sound to me like it was a strategy, it sounds like it was an opportunity Lester. Lester said, Mr Roy's got nothing to do. ah We've got Cooper. Let's swap them. um It's very opportunistic on Lester's part, and I think it's going to bite him. I'm sure we're painful. You know, Mr Roy's never been near a relegation fight, and they are right in a relegation fight. And I think it's going to i think it's going to end in tears. he has got He has got quite a bit of coaching experience, Ken. He's like, you know, um
00:31:47
Speaker
He was with the Dutch team under Gus Hidding. He's done the PSV under 19's and the first team. Yeah, it's still a little over Dazzlers, but you wouldn't you wouldn't put him in charge. Well, maybe you would put him in charge. I put him in charge of Leicester before van Nistelroy, to be honest.
00:32:02
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I fancy it. I'll give it a good go. I'll give it a good go. But I think he's going to do reasonably well. I do. I think he'll save them. I don't. Let me check a poll, please. Are Leslie going to go up? No, are they going to stay in the Premier League? Are they going to go down? Yeah, I think they are going to stay.
00:32:18
Speaker
No, I think they're going to go down. No, I think they're going down. I think they go down. what what What I meant to say was I think Van Nistroy is going to do well and well out of this. I think that this is the start of his career. Well, getting relegated was his first job. Yeah. take take out but he ah he'll He'll be in charge of a Premier League team and I think he will use it as a ah stepping stone, ah hopefully,
00:32:43
Speaker
ah to manches night but what is you get is you going to do a vincent company which is like take over and get munich i want to take ah take over at manches united and then fail spectacularly there but do you know what i hate i know kind of the the world of football punditries thrives on debate and hate to be the boring one i don't I've got no idea how he's going to do. I've got nothing to go on at this stage. But what do you think? So Jesse and Kate think he's going to do all right. Ken and Nick um think he might struggle at GSPN official to have your say. um Right, we're going to be in the final part of the podcast in just a second. But first up, do you have a story to tell that the world needs to hear? Have you struggled with reaching new audiences who are engaged with your story? Well, it might be time for you to start a podcast. Let me tell you about a platform we use here at the Global Sports Podcast Network. Zencaster makes it easy to start a high quality podcast built for growth from day one.
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An Awkward Interview Moment with Ed Sheeran
00:33:53
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Yeah. With Jamie Redknapp?
00:33:55
Speaker
um That was a bit weird, wasn't it? Kate, did you enjoy the world's premiere singer-songwriter crashing an interview with Reuben Amarin to say hello to Jamie Redknapp? Also, by the way, if you've been on holiday or whatever, admit this that is all of the things I just said then are real. That did happen. um What did you make of it, Kate?
00:34:14
Speaker
Do you know what? I haven't got a clue about it, but but he's ah he's annoyed me this week by his his ah opposition to the Do You Know It's Christmas single, which I think is is ridiculous. um So, yeah, I don't know anything about that, but I just see his little, his little sort of, his little bants, like, you know, sort of... and You've got a set of Ed Sheeran beef. is is is this Is this a... ta I love Ed Sheeran. Is this a Tack Ed corner? Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:42
Speaker
very good in He's just, but he isn't good he hasn't had a good week, media-wise, Ed Sheeran. But he did refer to himself as, and I'm not going to repeat the word, but it's a famous kind of British ah slang word for unmentionables. And he did he did refer to himself in that context, which made me thought, oh, that's a sort of a nice relatable recovery. Nick, nik you look you look furious. Were you angry at Ed's interjection? I wasn't angry. I just didn't see. What was he trying to achieve? It was just really awkward. It was weird. So awkward.
00:35:10
Speaker
one day everybody everybody just looked embarrassed and didn't quite know what to do and I just don't see the point of it other than his own ego thinking oh I can I can have a bit of fun here or do what i don't I don't get it I don't get I don't see the point of it I thought it's really disrespectful if I'm honest if you on ah on a kind of slightly serious note it it was very disrespectful and just didn't didn't reflect well on him at all and then he went was Kate said and I don't agree with that opposition to the Band Aid revival thing either, which I think is a really poor show, but there you go. They're the culture wars we live in these days.
00:35:44
Speaker
It's nice to see socially awkward moments though and realize that even on live TV when kind of Manchester United's glittering new managers being interviewed and one of the world's most famous pop stars there, people still have those moments a bit like if you're at a party and you sort of stand on the edge of a conversation and wait a bit too long to talk to your friend and they don't clock you. And then you've got to pretend to get a WhatsApp or something and that you've got to go, oh it's just It's nice that you know a bit too much about this, Joe. yeah this is all you have It's obviously happened to you several times. It's like that bus stop as well. ah but don't because actually I don't know why this happens to me at public transport, and maybe this is why I'm in so much trouble with TFL. But um i ah I was at a train station once, and I went up and chatted. I was chatting away to this guy and asking him how he is and but how his family are and all this sort of thing. And after five minutes, he told me that he didn't know who I was. um And I thought it was a guy, Toby, that I went to college with.
00:36:34
Speaker
but it wasn't Toby. So off he went and got on his train, and that was that. I was left on so many things. Must stops. It's just never ended. Did he get his train? He got a quaver out of it, didn't he? Yeah, exactly. Did he get on his train, or did he just get on the first train which turned out? That's it. He has no idea where it's going. it just like He didn't follow him onto the train. Holy idiot. Yeah. And then I'm sort of looking out the windows. He dialed three numbers. Anyway, whatever. um So yeah, so there you go. It happens to everybody. um just ah Just a couple of things I'd like to finish up on for for everybody. um Christmas is approaching.
00:37:04
Speaker
I'd just like to know which which Premier League manager you think will be having the best and worst Christmas from everybody. Jesse, who which Premier League managers do you think will have the best and most Christmas? I'm going to go for the worst one first. I'm going to go for Amorim. Really? Yeah, i think I think they're going to struggle over the Christmas period.
00:37:27
Speaker
Um, so predictable. I mean, literally so predictable. Liverpool fan predicts bad winter for Manchester United. I mean, come on, do better. He has just had a bit of a windfall though, isn't he? So he could probably buy some quite good presents. I'm sticking with Amorim. I'm sticking with Amorim. I think he's going to have the worst, um, the worst Christmas. And, uh, um, I can't say slot, can I, for the best Christmas? I bet you will though. Go on now.
00:37:55
Speaker
I've got it rolling down the slot, but i um'm I'm a bit embarrassed to say it now. um um' I'm going to go for Angie. I think Tottenham are going to have a good Christmas. He looks like a man who gets into the Christmas spirit as well. I bet it's full-on round Angie's Christmas. I bet it's full-on round Angie's every day of the week, to be honest. yeah You know, you're going to have a good time at an Angie party, aren't you? Yeah. Ain't no party like a pasta coglio party, that's what they say. so Yeah.
00:38:23
Speaker
andass ugly they well Ken, what about you? who who Which Premier League managers think you'll have the best and worst Christmas? Well, I go for worst. I think Pep is in a crisis. I think Pep's having a proper, proper crisis. And hey, I mean, we we joke about it, but I mean, it's serious and we couldn't be serious, couldn't it? I mean, when we all saw him you know during the week,
00:38:45
Speaker
It wasn't one of us that didn't think, oh, well, there's something going on there. And I think there is something going on there. So I think i think pes ah pip's PEP is going to continue to struggle. I think City are losing this weekend. I think they continue to struggle going forward. And I think the calls for what You know, what's what's pet doing? and We're going to be very loud by the end of the year and I suspect that's not going to be easy for him. I like hammering it United. I think United are turning a corner here fairly fairly rapidly. a Lot of confidence seems to be a lot more confidence using through that squad. I'm no big fan of my United, but that they just seem to be playing with a lot more freedom, a lot more passion, a lot more confidence. And I think.
00:39:31
Speaker
I think it's going to be an interesting Christmas in Manchester, because or in Salford and Manchester, because you've got yeah I think you've got two teams and the trajectories of both of those teams are going in opposite opposite directions. It's going to be a very interesting thing to watch. That would be that would be my shout on it. There you go. Kate, what do you reckon? Who's going to have the best and worst Christmas?
00:39:53
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So it gives me no, no pleasure to say this whatsoever. Not, but I do think that Southampton are going to possibly, I think, um,
00:40:05
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Yeah. Russell Martin, I think is going to have a really bad Christmas cause I'm not sure that he's going to be going to be there in a new year. Um, that they are bottom of the table. Obviously, you know, they've got some tricky matches coming up. Mind you, every match seems tricky to them. They're one kind of like very few this season. And yeah, I think Russell Martin is going to have a bad Christmas.
00:40:29
Speaker
They go and Nick finally. Yeah, well, I think I think I'll tell you who's on for Santa's best Christmas because he's got a load of gifts lined up over Christmas holidays is Mariska Chelsea. I think I think they've got a great chance of having a good season. They've got an opportunity to really cement not only the top four place, but ah maybe push on and try and get some top two or three um over that Christmas period. They've got Brentford.
00:40:53
Speaker
Everton, Fulham, Ipswich, and Palace and Bournemouth which takes them up into mid-jan. All very winnable games, they're playing well, they finally seem to have a little bit about them after a difficult summer and I think they they could do very well.
00:41:10
Speaker
I think if you're looking at bad Christmases, yes, Russell Martin, but he seems to have the faith in the Southampton board. I would worry. I would worry if I was Oliver Glasgow at Palace. I think he's in real deep trouble here. I think Palace are in deep trouble. And if they don't pick up soon, I imagine going into the new year, he might be on his way. Well, there you go. And um cue gentle Coldplay music this Christmas as you are spending time with your loved ones. Spare a thought for Pep Guardiola.
00:41:39
Speaker
Um, it's, it's a tough Christmas for pep up in Manchester. Um, just finally everybody. And I just, we we can't get into the debate again, but just finally the big game this weekend, of course, Liverpool host Manchester city. We started the show with it. Let's end the show with it. I just want your score predictions one by one, nothing more. Um, Kate, let's start with you. Liverpool city. What's your score prediction? Two on Liverpool. Okay. Three nil Liverpool. Nick. What each.
00:42:08
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And Jesse? One nil, Liverpool. Yeah, I would go 3-0 Liverpool. Comfortable win. um You heard it here first. Right, thank you very much, everybody. That was an absolute blast. And thank you for sticking with us during our first episode of um that Saturday feeling. It's going to be a regular show and new and different features and all sorts of different bits and bobs coming in. So thank you very much. We've really enjoyed chatting to you. um Hope you enjoy the Premier League weekend. Do seek out all of our wonderful podcasts across the Global Sports Podcast Network. Remember, you can get in touch at GSPN Official on all social media. And we will see you next time. Bye-bye.