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Beyond the Pitch Episode 9: Media Impact and the World of Goalkeeping in Women's Football

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Thanks for joining Briony and Paige. 

In this episode, we dive into the latest advancements in women’s goalkeeping, examining how new training techniques, increased visibility, and ongoing challenges are shaping the role of female goalkeepers.

We’ll also take a closer look at the influence of media coverage on women’s football.  Finally, we’ll focus on the story of Mary Earps and the media attention she received after winning the BBC Sports Personality of the Year award..

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Introduction to 'Beyond the Pitch' and Episode Focus

00:00:11
officialgspn
Hello and welcome to Beyond the Pitch, a daily women's football podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. Today is brought to you by myself, Bryony, and I am joined this evening by Paige.
00:00:25
officialgspn
Good evening, Paige.
00:00:26
Paige
Hello, how are we?
00:00:28
officialgspn
Yeah, I'm good. Thank you. How are you?
00:00:30
Paige
Good, all good. I love her love a podcast.
00:00:34
officialgspn
ah like we don't We don't tend to um record very often in the evening actually, so this will get released tomorrow, so that'll be fun.
00:00:41
Paige
Yeah, it's interesting. in Yep.
00:00:44
officialgspn
In this episode, we'll dive into the latest advancement in women's goalkeeping, examining how new training techniques, increased visibility and ongoing challenges are shaping the role of female goalkeepers.
00:00:57
officialgspn
We'll also take a closer look at the influence of media coverage on women's football. We'll then finally focus on the story of Mary Earps and the media's attention after she received the BBC Sports Personality of the Year.

The Evolution of Women's Goalkeeping

00:01:11
officialgspn
So I think it's fair to say that where women's football is concerned, regardless page of how we're seeing it advance and develop now, goalkeeping is definitely something that's been quite a way behind the men, wouldn't you agree?
00:01:25
Paige
Yeah, a hundred percent. I remember watching like games back in the day um either internationally or, you know, when we had the domestic league and stuff and just thinking, wow, our goalkeepers are not being shown in like the best light. I'm not taking anything away from some of the finishes, but some of the long range efforts when you just think, oh, you've got to get to that. They're just not. um So it's definitely been an area of the game that's constantly been.
00:01:49
Paige
discussed I think within obviously the women's game but also in comparison to the men's which obviously is a natural thing that tends to happen quite often um whether we agree or disagree on that is I guess something we can further discuss but yeah certainly goalkeeping has definitely been an element where I think um it has felt so far behind and it is great to see that there are changes and there are sort of new um focuses on like teams and the goalkeeping aspect of the game um and we can kind in of talk a little bit through them I think um but yeah it's definitely one of the the areas of the game where
00:02:29
Paige
It's needed a little bit of help and a little bit of work and I definitely think we're getting there. I don't think we're 100% there, but but there's definitely more and performances from goalkeepers that are being spoken about. There's less goals that are going in contentually. So yeah, that's my thoughts. so
00:02:45
officialgspn
I mean, is it is fair to say that there are obviously these disparities. I think it's interesting to look at what the differences are between men and women. In my opinion, I'd say the access that even going back just you know a few years ago, where if you look more towards the bottom level of the game, female goalkeepers aren't offered that same you know its that same pathway maybe as what outfield players are at.
00:03:15
Paige
yeah Yeah.
00:03:15
officialgspn
in the female game now. just you know And it's obviously a huge positive that we're seeing better pathways for women in football, but you know this access to elite level coaching, and before you get to the elite level, if that makes sense, is, in my opinion, obviously going to have that detrimental effect on so the quality of keepers we're seeing come through.
00:03:35
Paige
For sure. Exactly. And I think now you know, we were always encouraging and wanting girls to get involved with football earlier or as early as they can um and especially compared to the men's side of the game where, you know, boys are training more than once a week, two, three times a week, sometimes even more than that because they're taking things upon themselves to go and do.
00:03:55
Paige
um and it's always had it always has been a focus on those outfield players but i think um I think when you become or when you decide to become a goalkeeper it's probably not when you're 12, 13, 14

Spotlight on Mary Earps

00:04:06
Paige
or older, right? It tends to be when you're quite young and I think that being sort of exposed to goalkeeping from a very young age is something that is definitely needed to shape what a great goalkeeper looks like. and I'm like never, ever, ever putting myself forward to going goal. I've not got the technique, the interest, the craziness to be diving around, to come into people's feet. And I think if you can get that fear out of the way early on in your football career um and getting access to coach goalkeeper coaching earlier,
00:04:40
Paige
um you are obviously more likely to be shaped into an actual quality goalkeeper. You know, physical demands, you know, maybe not so much. You might not be the tallest of goalkeepers um and you might have to realise that quite quickly. But I also think that um from a technique perspective, the earlier that you can get involved in the game as a goalkeeper and being specifically coached as a goalkeeper, um then the better 100%.
00:05:08
officialgspn
Yeah, I agree. And I think there's obviously now we're seeing ways in which that we are developing goalkeepers on the front. I think a big one is just that there are now slowly, we're starting to see role models for young female keepers, you know, just look at Mary Earps. Arguably, okay, it's up for opinion, you know, it's my opinion. Mary Earps has been the most um positive change and drive and influence on this country, I think. She's one of the most influential female lionesses that there are.
00:05:41
officialgspn
And I think that's the first time we've ever seen that in the England team, that it's a goalkeeper.
00:05:41
Paige
Yeah.
00:05:46
Paige
yeah Yeah, 100 percent. And I think that probably translates across the men's and the women's game. There aren't too many goalkeepers, you know, that are at the top of their game, like the actual top of their game that, you know, people still talk about, people still want to hear opinions from, people are still invested in their lives about, you know, on and off the football pitch. And I think Mary's done a really great job of inspiring that next generation of females um and also the ones that are not next generation, so ourselves that are sort of living in it and and seeing it and experiencing, you know, her career and stuff.
00:06:20
Paige
She's done a really great job in and shining a light on goalkeepers on the position itself because, yeah, no one wants to be a goalkeeper, always tends to be like the dud position that, you know, you're scampering for, it you know, mid-season because no one wants to go on goal
00:06:31
officialgspn
Yep.

Advancements in Goalkeeping Training

00:06:35
Paige
anymore or even pre-season.
00:06:35
officialgspn
It's a lonely position. It's a lonely position to be in.
00:06:37
Paige
Yeah. Exactly. It certainly is. And I think, you know, there's so much pressure on that position, right? You know, 10 other players on the pitch can make a bad decision, make, you know, do something wrong.
00:06:51
Paige
And nobody really talks about it all that much, you know, consistently anyway.
00:06:54
officialgspn
No.
00:06:55
Paige
As a goalkeeper, you put yourself in the limelight and in the sort of the focus to be literally, you know, that the worst mistake possible you can make and or even like the slightest mistake is always going to be blamed on the goalkeeper because something critical like a goal has happened.
00:07:13
Paige
So yeah it's definitely a position that I think Mary's made, made trendy, made made cool um and I think that's probably the way from a women's football perspective it kind of needed to be made.
00:07:18
officialgspn
trend And we're actually starting to see now clubs take goalkeeping more seriously.
00:07:26
Paige
I don't think there was anyone that was just going to fall in love with it. They needed somebody to inspire them to to fall in love with and that's been Mary Earp's.
00:07:39
officialgspn
on the female front and there is now more specialised training, there is more you know taking into consideration the female needs and anatomy and making this more specialised and personalised to women and incorporating that in training. There's more, for example, looking we're looking at like um data analysis and technology that's analysing um performance and things for women, which is just not something we'd seen until recently. And I think this is all you know really positive. And I think we're only going to look up from here where goalkeeping is concerned in the women's game.
00:08:12
Paige
100%.

Media Coverage of Women's Football

00:08:18
officialgspn
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00:08:43
officialgspn
Okay, so if we continue on now, I think it's been interesting recently to see the advancements in women's football, see how more people getting themselves involved in watching it, playing it. Even men are becoming bigger advocates for women's football. And I think it's interesting to see how the coverage of women's football is evolving.
00:09:10
officialgspn
For example, the growth in coverage through television, online platform, social media. I mean, how do we think the representation on a media scale is improving the landscape for players, for opportunities at the elite levels and even lower down on the pyramid?
00:09:27
Paige
I just think by the accessibility, right? I think there can't only be one or two channels that show the women's game when you are then in competition with five or six channels that are showing men's sports, period. It doesn't matter whether it's football or not, it will still get the limelight over a women's game. um So being able to sort of share the game in the moments on multiple platforms, I think is only going to enhance and encourage people generally to get involved and watch it, um which I think is now so great that we're kind of starting to see there's bigger and platforms that are taking it sort of under their wing. We've got Daison, you've got YouTube that are all interested in streaming it um and I think you know to make it more accessible and YouTube as a platform anyway for the generation you know that
00:10:17
Paige
grew up with YouTube since its in inception, right? It's never been really something that you go to probably for anything more than music. I don't ever remember as a kid going to it and sitting there watching hours of it like I do nowadays.
00:10:24
officialgspn
Yeah, exactly.
00:10:30
Paige
I used to use it so I could watch a music video of Chris Brown dancing and be like, yeah, that's how I'm going to get my, you know, my fix of seeing the visuals of any music that I liked.
00:10:30
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:10:37
officialgspn
Yep.
00:10:40
Paige
So now when I've seen like that transition ah to how you know, YouTube is watched by so many young people, you know, they've got so many influences that sit on YouTube, and they are literally tuned into them. So if they're already using the platform, then yeah, now, having women's football being an opportunity to be seen on there is only gonna just eat into the hands of those people who were wanting to get sort of involved with the game, right? We're wanting to get younger people seeing it. We're not wanting to restrict them to you know their parents' subscriptions, which ultimately is kind of how it's been previously with either Discovery Plus or old BT or however however it was. I kind of don't have to rely on that necessarily. um So I think that's a really great way that you know they've made it more accessible and made you know the coverage a little bit different than just your mainstream sort of TV
00:11:35
Paige
Viewing options.
00:11:37
officialgspn
and Yeah, and that's what's going to say as well. I think me and Alka have previously discussed this on a podcast, but just the fact that it's going to be free, like that isn't even something that the Premier League has got at the moment.
00:11:48
Paige
Yeah.
00:11:49
officialgspn
You can't even watch the men's game for free.
00:11:51
Paige
Yeah.
00:11:52
officialgspn
And, you know, you could argue that actually just being a woman in the game or a woman supporting women's football has its challenges in itself and you for so many people that financial barrier is just another one on top. And I think they've hit the nail on the head there. I think that is, I think it's gonna make a huge difference to viewing and to the amount of people that start to engage with women's football. And I suppose it's probably a good way to lead us on to speaking about how media attention is affecting or affects particularly in women's football engagement with the sport and how is that then affecting player recognition?
00:12:34
Paige
Yeah, I think You know, I think the media do do a do do and do do a really great job of um um highlighting, you know, all the great stuff that we want to see. But I also think with that media coverage, media attention, there always comes sort of the negative side of it, the bad side of media that, you know, maybe we don't like to see so much.
00:12:58
Paige
But I think um just to touch on the fact that about it being free, I think that like you said, there are so many barriers and now there's kind of really no excuse, right?
00:13:02
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:13:08
Paige
There's no excuse that you can't watch it on the go.
00:13:09
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:13:10
Paige
There's no excuse that you can't watch it with the rest of your family. There's no excuse like that you haven't got the channel. um It's completely accessible.
00:13:17
officialgspn
Yeah,
00:13:18
Paige
So yeah, I just wanted to touch back on that, but happy to hear your thoughts.
00:13:24
officialgspn
yeah no, I totally agree. And I think in terms of making this an openly accessible platform if you like for women, girls, men who want to follow the women's game.
00:13:36
officialgspn
I mean who's to say that something like this won't attract more men to watch the women's game. It is only improving that fan engagement and who knows it might just be something that putting it on a platform like YouTube people come across by accident and go hey you know what I actually really enjoyed that I might go back again and you know it who's again more people watching it the potential for it to bring in more sponsorship
00:13:53
Paige
Yeah, exactly.

The Role of Female Commentators

00:14:00
officialgspn
deals.
00:14:00
officialgspn
I think it's really positive on that front. But the media in general, like we say, obviously that it is unequal. We're many concerned. um There are fewer high profile broadcasts and deals there. I would say we're starting to see maybe a slightly more progressive, what's the word, kind of scene and like face of commentary and female punditry. I mean, you've got the likes of Alex Scott. Ellen White does a fair bit now, but do we not think we need more of that? Is that not also gonna progress things more?
00:14:41
Paige
Yeah, 100% and also You know, it is great to see them, but they're always the faces of the men's game. And I think that we now need to get more of those big faces on to the women's side of things.
00:14:48
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:14:53
Paige
Firstly, because who doesn't want to hear from an expert in their field, right? That's why we tune into so many, you know, BT or Sky or whatever, Monday Night Football, because you get to hear from, let's put in quotations, experts, right?
00:14:58
officialgspn
yeah
00:15:07
Paige
But people who have played the game and whose opinions and experiences you can kind of trust. So I would love to, yes, see more ex-Lionesses, ex-players in general, um be the faces of these new wave sort of streaming platforms. um I do want to hear you know from these ex-players about their thoughts on the game, rather than as maybe not getting as much of that or those just being exclusive to like the men's game and as getting, not that I don't value you know your opinion if you haven't played necessarily, but I do think that it just brings in um sort of a level of respectability and um trustworthiness that comes with that because you can really buy into what is being said. You can form your own opinion of that, but at least you know that it's come from somebody who has been there, done that and sort of experienced the thing.
00:15:59
Paige
um
00:16:00
officialgspn
yeah
00:16:01
Paige
So I think, yeah, it it also builds the opportunities for women to know that there are opportunities for work within those fields. And it's not just something that's only limited to men or only limited um you know to ex-players.
00:16:15
Paige
That's not what I'm saying at all. I want to see more women in in general doing it. And I think they have to be the people that inspire those next generation. um you know I think there are some really great people doing things like the Camilla twins that obviously you and I both know.
00:16:29
officialgspn
Yep.
00:16:30
Paige
the things that they're able to do and they've done and the platform that they've created for themselves as ex-pros yes but also I think you'll talk more about what they've done off the pitch now than you would have ever done and have talked about what they did on the pitch and that's no disrespect to either of them because they were great players but they've used their platform, they've used their knowledge, their experience um and their personalities to become
00:16:40
officialgspn
ye
00:16:46
officialgspn
yeah
00:16:55
Paige
you know, a better person or a better, more inspiring person off the pitch because you're seeing everything that they've been able to create after it. So...
00:17:03
officialgspn
And just to wrap up this topic of conversation, name me the first player that comes to your head on the female scene that you would like to see pundit football after they've retired.
00:17:15
Paige
um Frank Herbie, because I have actually, I have two.
00:17:19
officialgspn
Interesting.
00:17:21
officialgspn
For me, it would be I think it's Leah Williamson.
00:17:22
Paige
um
00:17:24
officialgspn
I think she's a great face at the women's game.
00:17:26
Paige
100%, I agree with that. My only reason for talking about Frank Kirby is one, because she's probably closer to retirement than than Leah Williamson, but she's seen and experienced the game as a player from when there wasn't any of this, there would be like, we're a world away from even talking about any of these, you know, sponsorship deals, any of professional outfit looking like
00:17:42
officialgspn
yeah
00:17:51
Paige
she's She's so far away and she's now seen and experienced that whole transition to where the game is now. And I think to see and to hear it from her perspective, where she's played on both sides of the coin.
00:18:00
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:18:01
Paige
um She's played, you know, when women's football, no one did care about it.
00:18:01
officialgspn
Yep.
00:18:06
Paige
No one was invested in it. And now to then take that onto the flip side and see it. And she's been playing at the highest level of the game with Chelsea and now obviously doing the role that she she's going to do so well, I think at Brighton.
00:18:17
Paige
I think to then see her perspective of it and hear her thoughts and experiences thereafter.
00:18:17
officialgspn
Yep.
00:18:22
Paige
would be really great. And I was going to say the same thing with probably someone like Nikita Paris, who has started so young in the game. um And you know, she's been across different countries and been able to play. So sort of her experience and exposure that she's had in different countries as well would also be really valuable and great to hear because she's got that experience and knowledge of other leagues and how it looks in different countries. But yeah, just players who have been there, you know, when it hasn't been great, when it was getting great, and now when it is great with potential um would just be something that I'd be really interested in.
00:18:52
Paige
their opinions.
00:18:54
officialgspn
Yeah, really, really interesting point, sir.

Mary Earps and Media Scrutiny

00:18:59
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00:19:38
officialgspn
Okay, so to wrap up today, I think it might be interesting to kind of look at how this media and exposure is you know, practically how it affects people and women in the game. And I think both positively and negatively, we can argue that someone like Mary Earps, who off of the back of deservingly winning the BBC Sports Personality of the Year, both, has both been positively and negatively affected by media coverage and exposure after this. In my opinion, I think for her, it's obviously, you know, it's off her own merit. She,
00:20:18
officialgspn
she's got character, she is one heck of a player. I think she's quite she's quite an open book as well, she's not afraid to wear her heart on her sleeve to the public. And there was some negative backlash from, unfortunately, from winning this award, would or wouldn't you agree?
00:20:38
Paige
I do agree and the frustrating side of the negative feedback that she received is not necessarily the bits about deserving or not deserving. I think we can talk about that in a second.
00:20:49
officialgspn
Of course.
00:20:51
Paige
It's focus on dress code for one.
00:20:51
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:20:55
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:20:56
Paige
How she sort of decided to dress that day and it just kind of circles back to the fact that like Who cares also?
00:21:07
Paige
like Who cares?
00:21:08
officialgspn
Who does care exactly?
00:21:10
Paige
you know One minute where women are being sexualised in a positive way, and the next minute she's being you know blasphemed for wearing something that you could be considered a little bit more Scandi.
00:21:23
Paige
And I just think, you know, she couldn't have worn it either way.
00:21:24
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:21:28
Paige
If she'd have worn, you know, a brown paper bag covered from neck to ankles, it would have been like, oh, like, that's just so unrealistic, you know, women don't dress like that.
00:21:38
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:21:39
Paige
And now for her to to dress sexually, confidently, showcasing a body that she works damn hard for as a professional athlete in the same way that we see male athletes, for example,
00:21:39
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:21:54
Paige
Jude Bellingham I'm pretty sure wore a blazer with no shirt, but yet nothing was said about the fact that he had his bare chest on show, which...
00:22:02
officialgspn
I was going to say how many, you know, it's never an issue during gameplay for men to take their shirts off and expose themselves like that.
00:22:09
Paige
Yeah.
00:22:11
officialgspn
And, you know, we saw Chloe Kelly do the same and maybe it's going off topic a bit, but that was such an issue and she did that. And it was the hypocrisy instantly in that moment.
00:22:17
Paige
Yeah.
00:22:20
Paige
Yeah, 100%. And it's just like, ultimately, how she dresses does not take away from the deserving sort of award that she won, right? The only thing that I would slightly maybe agree with is the timing in which she won. I think the year in which she won it sort of she probably should have won it the previous year and that would probably be the only thing that I could maybe agree with some people about because the awards that you know the accolades that she she won that year weren't as great as the accolades she won the previous year and I'm sure that there were other really great females you know within other sports that could have won it that year but I think generally and
00:23:05
Paige
just like categorically the the importance of one, a goalkeeper winning it, two, a female footballer winning it, and three, a personality who has inspired, as we've already mentioned, the next, the current and future, like super future generations. People will be talking about Mary Earp's forever because of her heroics as a footballer, because of her personality off the pitch, because of her team spirit on the pitch and her passion for basic things like making a save. She is probably the most deserving person, never mind just female, to win something like that. I don't think too many other people in general, athletes in general, can say that they've inspired you know people to love a position that we've already mentioned nobody wanted, let's be real. Nobody wants to be a goalkeeper.

Regulating Media Coverage in Sports

00:23:55
Paige
bar So what you know the last position that you managed to fill when you've got an 11-a-side fixture.
00:24:00
Paige
um so Yeah, also.
00:24:03
officialgspn
I mean, can I just jump in though, Paige?
00:24:03
Paige
but
00:24:05
officialgspn
I totally see where you're coming from with you know maybe she did deserve to win it the year before, more so. Not that she didn't deserve to win it the year she did. But I think people instantly forget that the year that Mary Epps won BBC Sports personality of the year, she had also won 11 personal awards that year.
00:24:25
officialgspn
including Manchester United player of the year, she won Lioness of the year, um Golden Glove in the World Cup. I mean, she didn't actually win a major competition like she had done so in the Euros, but on a personal level, it was her most decorated year.
00:24:40
Paige
Yeah, and I 100% agree with that, but I think that most times than not, when we look at people who are winning these type of awards, it is based on sort of team accolades and team triumphs, right?
00:24:54
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:24:57
Paige
And I think she could have still won all of those personal awards and would probably still say, but I didn't win the World Cup. And all those were great.
00:25:06
officialgspn
Yeah, no I agree.
00:25:08
Paige
And yes, I love to receive things like that. But ultimately, her role, and I'm sure she could probably agree is to win trophies is to be the best version she can be for club and country.
00:25:21
Paige
And she probably would have rather have not won any of those awards, including Sports Personality of the Year and taken away that got that that World Cup that year. And that's not to say that, you know, she did anything wrong in those games necessarily, but I think that it just shows that, you know, there's quite often a time where, yeah, it should and it should and it is based on those team things because ultimately Yes, it's a personality sports personality of the year award, right? And it can only go to one individual. But I do think that, you know, there are other comparisons that you can make to players that have probably achieved similar things in there.
00:25:57
Paige
prime careers in their prime season and still not won anything like the sports personality of the year. um I just I think she's definitely you know a worthy winner I just questioned the year in maybe which she did it because I think that that year before was probably more inspiring than the year that she had the followed only because she's inspired the people and then she's backed it up the following season.
00:26:19
Paige
she sort of justified her performances.
00:26:21
officialgspn
Yeah, no, that's...
00:26:22
Paige
But that's yeah that's opinions and that's what's great is that we can both share their opinions in some aspects of it, but also disagree in others.
00:26:26
officialgspn
Yeah, no.
00:26:31
Paige
And that's also the world and wonderful world of football, right?
00:26:36
officialgspn
And that kind of quite nicely, I think, for us to wrap things up. In maybe one or two short points, how would you say Earp's experience with the media after winning such an award?
00:26:50
officialgspn
can help us maybe better inform um representations and practices going forward. I mean, for me, I think there needs to be, I mean, it's easier said than done, but how in which do a body of people supervise the way in which the media are allowed to cover? You know, the there were big figures. I mean, I think one of the biggest ones was Piers Morgan. Interesting figure. He really didn't, he wasn't happy about the award.
00:27:19
officialgspn
And it's how much of an opinion of people are allowed to have before it's becoming discriminatory and regulating that and monitoring that.
00:27:27
Paige
yeah think Yeah, I think that's the big question and that's the big issue that worryingly I wouldn't know how you fix I think if we had easy answers these kind of things would be rectified you know way before this conversation or this occurrence is even happening right um but I think that we as a global we just need to do better and think that you know just because we have an opinion it doesn't automatically mean that we need to voice it I think you know
00:27:40
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:28:00
officialgspn
yeah
00:28:01
Paige
Leah Williamson has done you know many are interviews and has spoken a lot about you know just general opinions on women's football right and the vocalisation of those and has sort of said a similar thing.
00:28:05
officialgspn
Yep.
00:28:12
Paige
right If you don't like a certain sport, you don't watch it. You choose not to watch it.
00:28:17
officialgspn
Exactly.
00:28:18
Paige
You don't choose to go onto a social platform where you can sit behind a keyboard and type, I hate rugby.
00:28:26
officialgspn
You don't do
00:28:26
Paige
You just don't watch it.

Conclusion and Future Topics

00:28:28
officialgspn
it.
00:28:28
officialgspn
No, exactly.
00:28:28
Paige
so There's not, I'm not, you know, we do live in a free country and we do live in a country that is built on opinions and built on people vocalizing those. And as we've just touched on, right, opportunities are often they're great opportunities for further conversation.
00:28:45
Paige
But when they're, they're detrimental to people and to people's mental health, which is another kind of worms that I'm sure we can sort of get into in future podcasts.
00:28:53
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:28:54
Paige
But I think people just need to recognize that because you're sat behind a computer doesn't necessarily you know, cover you for having those opinions, you should still be held accountable.
00:29:05
officialgspn
No.
00:29:05
Paige
And I don't think that Piers Morgan would have said this or any of these people that do say negative stuff to any of these people's faces in just a casual conversation, but suddenly be seen a post because you've seen something you disagree with.
00:29:17
Paige
You have the right, the integrity or the lack of integrity to be able to post it and vocalize it. And then yeah.
00:29:24
officialgspn
Yeah, and it's things like, what is it? Twitter or the new X, as it's called. And it's, unfortunately, it's a huge culprit for it.
00:29:29
Paige
yeah
00:29:35
officialgspn
And people do use it as this tool to go further with things than they would ordinarily.
00:29:37
Paige
Yeah.
00:29:40
officialgspn
Like you say, they probably wouldn't say this to people's faces in a sit-down conversation. But I think this is definite.
00:29:44
Paige
And if they do, that's all right.
00:29:47
officialgspn
Yeah, exactly.
00:29:47
Paige
That's all there is to it.
00:29:48
officialgspn
But I definitely, I 100% think some of these points can be taken forward for another podcast.
00:29:53
Paige
Yeah, 100%. They're definitely the ones that we can discuss. And I think, you know, the listeners, those that that do listen would, would sort of love to get involved and hear a little bit more about our thoughts and how we could potentially, you know, change those, those dynamics that happen on social media, especially when it comes to women's game.
00:30:13
officialgspn
Might have to do some tapping in as well and see if there's anybody in this field of social media and media that might be interested in being a guest on a podcast and maybe come speak for people to hear from.
00:30:24
Paige
for sure
00:30:27
officialgspn
oh Okay though, I think that is all we have time for today. Thank you for joining me, Bryony and Paige.
00:30:34
Paige
You're welcome.
00:30:34
officialgspn
And we look forward to welcoming you to our next episode.
00:30:39
Paige
Have a good one.
00:30:40
officialgspn
Bye guys.