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Why Disorganized Founders Burn Out (And What to Do) w/ Shawn Lemon
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In this episode, Ken Freire sits down with Sean Lemon, founder of The Digital Organizer, to uncover how disorganization fuels burnout for solopreneurs—and how the right systems can save your business and your sanity. Sean shares why having multiple tools and scattered notes leads to chaos, the four essential pillars every entrepreneur needs to master (email, files, task management, and passwords), and how AI can be a powerful ally once the fundamentals are in place. Together, they dig into practical strategies for building a sustainable, organized business so you can focus on growth instead of drowning in clutter.
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Resources Mentioned
- The Digital Organizer - https://thedigitalorganizer.com/
- File Organization Guide (Free Download) - https://thedigitalorganizer.com/
- 1Password - https://1password.com/
- Missive (Email Client) - https://missiveapp.com/
- Spark (Email Client) - https://sparkmailapp.com/
- Shortwave (Email Client) - https://www.shortwave.com/
- TextExpander - https://textexpander.com/
- Asana - https://asana.com/
- Google Drive - https://www.google.com/drive/
Timestamps
- 0:03 – 2:30 | Why disorganization leads to burnout for solopreneurs
- 2:30 – 7:30 | Signs you’re heading toward overwhelm and burnout
- 7:30 – 11:30 | The mindset shift: organizing around clients vs. processes
- 11:30 – 14:30 | Practical steps for building filing systems that actually work
- 14:30 – 20:00 | Common mistakes entrepreneurs make with organization
- 20:00 – 25:30 | The four pillars of digital organization every founder needs
- 25:30 – 32:00 | Recommended tools for email, file management, tasks, and passwords
- 32:00 – 39:00 | How AI supports better decision-making and project management
- 39:00 – 44:30 | Creating repeatable systems with custom GPTs and TextExpander
- 44:30 – 46:55 | Final takeaways: organize smarter, avoid burnout, and reclaim your time
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Transcript
Introduction and Overview
00:00:01
Ken Freire
Welcome to another episode of Solo Scaled. And today, if you feel like running a solo business can feel like charging up a steep hill while tornado of sticky notes, overdue tasks, and email ping swirl all around you,
00:00:18
Ken Freire
every step feels like adds more weight, that it's not just exhausting, it's actually going to lead to burnout and you feel burnout beginning in your life, then today's guest, Sean Lemon, shows us how to escape the chaos before it
Impact of Disorganization on Burnout
00:00:34
Ken Freire
breaks you.
00:00:35
Ken Freire
Sean Lemon is the founder of The Digital Organizer, a consultancy that helps founders and teams reclaim time through smarter digital systems. He's built workflows for seven figure creators and consultants and teams.
00:00:49
Ken Freire
And he's now revealing how disorganization fuels burnout and what systems can save you. Sean, welcome to the podcast, man. Super excited to have you.
00:00:59
Shawn Lemon
Thanks, man. Appreciate the invite.
00:01:01
Ken Freire
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Sean, you and have been having friends now for a while, so I think we're going fun conversation. We're going to be probably curveballing it all day long and just like rabbit trailing, but we'll try to keep it on the topic.
00:01:07
Shawn Lemon
Yeah, man. Yeah.
00:01:13
Ken Freire
And the biggest thing that we want to talk about is like, why do you think disorganization leads to burnout, especially for solopreneurs?
00:01:21
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Well, I think so much of it is, is we're in a hurry.
00:01:25
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:01:25
Shawn Lemon
It feels like there is a non-stop to-do list because there is. You know send your email and you think you're done, you're emptying your inbox and then the response comes back in and then you feel like you have to keep engaging. and There's so many different things to do and it's And it's not taking the time to actually stop, put things in the right spot, think strategically of what should I be doing right now.
00:01:50
Shawn Lemon
And then if we stay too long in that, we end up sitting in that state of fight or flight and we don't go deep on anything and we're just bouncing from one task to the other and really not getting as much done. And it feels like everything takes so long because it does. Yeah.
00:02:07
Shawn Lemon
when you're working on too many things at
Signs and Solutions for Burnout
00:02:09
Shawn Lemon
once and you don't have a good storage system, you can't find it. Your works, your digital workspace doesn't have everything in hand that you need. You're constantly having to go somewhere else for it.
00:02:19
Shawn Lemon
That sucks. And it's, it's painful and it takes a long time to get things done.
00:02:21
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:02:23
Shawn Lemon
And it's really easy to burn out.
00:02:25
Ken Freire
You know, I remember one time was using Asana for my leadership team. And then because of the organization, they had, they were using Microsoft Teams to do's on it.
00:02:36
Ken Freire
And then my personal life, we were using sticky notes and then my other, and then sometimes we would use, know, Apple notes.
00:02:36
Shawn Lemon
Oh no.
00:02:43
Ken Freire
And I'm just like, oh my gosh, this is freaking me out. Everybody let's get on the same page.
00:02:48
Shawn Lemon
Exactly.
00:02:48
Ken Freire
Right? Like,
00:02:48
Shawn Lemon
I mean, the amount of project managers people have in notes apps are absolutely ridiculous. I mean, not to mention all of the different cloud apps.
00:02:55
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:02:57
Shawn Lemon
at least with that, you know, and oscillating between Dropbox, Google Drive, and maybe OneDrive or Box or something like that. You have three or four places to look, iCloud, of course, whereas Notes apps, I mean, you get this new Notes app, you think it's going to solve everything, and finally, you know, I love this, and and I really jive with this one, and the next thing know, you got the next one, the next one, the next one, where did I put my files, and it's just...
00:03:24
Shawn Lemon
It's insanity and the project management apps too, because in the end, people feel like it's the tool. It's not the tool is how we use it. So, you know, our task lists are all over the
00:03:31
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:03:33
Shawn Lemon
then we go right back to paper again.
00:03:35
Ken Freire
Yeah. and And then if you go back to paper, you end up using a planner, a sticky note, 10 other different planners. You're like, you don't remember where you saved it. So that's where the overwhelm begins.
Organizing for Business Success
00:03:45
Shawn Lemon
hmm.
00:03:46
Ken Freire
So Sean, start to talk to us about some of the signs that you start to see when people have systems or a lack thereof that is leading to burnout.
00:03:55
Shawn Lemon
Yeah, I think it's when you've got email open a lot and you are constantly looking for stuff. So when you can't find what you're looking for and you just keep recreating and you're trying to organize everywhere, you're trying to organize your email, your files, all of your Slack stuff, and nothing is working.
00:04:23
Shawn Lemon
Like you're, you're, you're getting close because there's just so much friction and you've reached a point where you feel like you need to organize in multiple places. And that lets me know you've got a lot going on and you have too many places and you've got a lot of stuff up in the air.
00:04:41
Shawn Lemon
And if it just keeps going down that path and you don't end up getting it all straightened out in an order, Then, you're going to start dropping balls and, uh, it's going to be embarrassing and you're not having much fun anymore.
00:04:54
Shawn Lemon
And once you stop having fun and it's, and it's stopped and it's not as interesting anymore. yeah, you're, you're on the road to burnout.
00:05:03
Ken Freire
Yeah. And that burnout, you know, all of a sudden people start one, what I have found making bad decisions for the business or pivoting the business. Right. Because like, oh, this thing doesn't work anymore.
00:05:12
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Too many pivots.
00:05:14
Ken Freire
So let's go do something else. When really it's just been the overwhelm and the burnout that's causing all that.
00:05:15
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:05:19
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:05:19
Ken Freire
They probably would have loved it if they would have had a good system to begin with.
00:05:23
Shawn Lemon
Yeah, totally. Well, I mean, just to speak to that from something that, that you're so familiar with is sales. So, you know, I was I was struggling with sales and that's how we really you started talking in the first place is is my close rate was not great.
00:05:39
Shawn Lemon
And the worse it was, the worse it became. And ah and from going through and just saying you need to stick to this, switching certain parts of the clothes in the presentation of that paired with something that you had told Megan Hyatt.
00:05:55
Shawn Lemon
is it's not, what is it? It's not a sales is not an art. It's a science. Like you just have to stick with the plan, you know, and go through it and do the right thing.
00:06:01
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:06:05
Shawn Lemon
I started sticking with the plan. i did it the way that you told me with the clothes. And it that made so much sense of, of what that positioning looked like. And then I think I peaked at like 92% clothes, right? It's ridiculous.
00:06:21
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. And that was from like 18 22%.
00:06:25
Ken Freire
Yeah. I, you know, I remember Sean, when the first week, when I kind of give you that bit of advice and
Optimizing Digital Tools and Systems
00:06:31
Ken Freire
then you were like, dude, I just closed like six in a row. I can't remember the exact number, but you were just like so thrilled because you're like, it worked.
00:06:38
Ken Freire
And all of a sudden you're like, I enjoy this.
00:06:38
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:06:39
Ken Freire
I enjoy getting on the cause. I enjoy the system. And the same thing with a digital organization. I think people don't know how to find good system because they're just so overwhelmed.
00:06:44
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:06:48
Shawn Lemon
Right. Yeah.
00:06:50
Ken Freire
And a part of it is that there's like always a new tool is the shiny object syndrome.
00:06:54
Shawn Lemon
Right, right.
00:06:54
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:06:55
Shawn Lemon
And that's the thing, like with the sales, I was thinking, I don't think this model works. I don't think I don't think people want this anymore.
00:07:02
Shawn Lemon
And it's in something has to change. But it wasn't about the model. The model worked. The price was right. Clearly, if I'm getting between like 70 and 90 percent, like you're right in that sweet spot for pricing.
00:07:17
Shawn Lemon
So, and then people are getting the results from the process.
00:07:21
Shawn Lemon
Okay, great. you know, so, so I had switched up so many things thinking, I mean, all throughout my, uh, you know, the life cycle of this business, uh, thinking that something was wrong or whatever, whatever, and, and, and things did need to change and evolve over the years, but,
00:07:39
Shawn Lemon
you know, exactly what you're saying. You just go on to the next thing instead of making it work. And you may actually be really close. The amount of people that come to us, it's like you're, you are close, but you've overcomplicated it.
00:07:50
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:07:52
Shawn Lemon
And we just need to have consistency and make some decisions and, you know, get clarity and boom, rock and rolling.
00:07:58
Ken Freire
Yeah. So let's talk about that clarity because I think You know, you and I have talked about this before. So many times people want to run the tech stack, right?
00:08:08
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:08:08
Ken Freire
Like, okay, so what tool should we use? But there's something fundamental, you know, shift that needs to happen first, like a way of thinking and the systems that you need to build.
00:08:17
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:08:17
Ken Freire
What's that framework that you kind of walk people through to start thinking, hey, here's how to actually organize in a way that works for you and for your team?
00:08:26
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. So I'll give you a visual.
00:08:31
Shawn Lemon
If you look at a craftsman Who's got a nice tidy shop. What you'll realize is all of the tools that that craftsman needs is all within reaching distance.
00:08:42
Shawn Lemon
Like it's all in one place for that phase. That stuff is grouped together. So when I'm doing pottery and that's my, that's my hobby. So take a lump of clay, throw it on a wheel, shape it, do the, do the whole thing to firing.
00:08:57
Shawn Lemon
And there are defined stages for that. And for each one of those stages, I have those tools grouped together and they come, I may go and pull something out of and spot that's stored somewhere else, pull it out in front of me.
00:09:10
Shawn Lemon
Then I put that away, you know, for, for the next space. So it easily moves through and we can do the same thing with our digital space. I think so often people are trying to group together by year or by the type of file. I want to get all my presentations together.
00:09:24
Shawn Lemon
Well, that's not how it works. I mean, people, I don't do, well, I didn't do very many presentations before, so it actually made sense for me to have one.
00:09:32
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:09:33
Shawn Lemon
But the majority of the time, it's, What, what, when you're creating something, you want to have everything around it that you'll need. And you want to name things in a way that, that you need them. So if we're client focused, I want to have my client folder, have everything in it. I don't want to have a folder called contracts.
00:09:53
Shawn Lemon
I want to have folder called Ken and inside of Ken are my appointment notes, not some other app. My contract, call recordings, assets that were given to me or that we created and you give to them.
00:10:06
Shawn Lemon
So we want everything right there because when I'm on a call with Ken, I need all of those resources right there at hand. And then I can take, I'm tracking that client project in Asana, their whole life cycle.
00:10:13
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:10:20
Shawn Lemon
I'm communicating with my team there. so I link the folder for Ken in Ken's task that we're tracking our whole system there. So anyone who's looking, they can click on it and get to the context.
00:10:35
Shawn Lemon
So we're grouping things together. We're linking things around each other so that there's just a couple of places where things actually live, but they can be connected found wherever we're working.
00:10:47
Shawn Lemon
And that way we work extremely efficiently. And even if it's not connected, we can find it within clicks.
00:10:54
Ken Freire
Yeah. And that that's huge because I think the biggest takeaway there for people listening, especially like solopreneurs, coaches, consultants, is that you are literally setting everything up based off of the client, not necessarily the exact process that you might go through. Like, oh, this next thing is the contracts. And then after the contracts, it's the presentations. And then after the presentations, it's their workflow. Like, you like, no, no, this is it.
00:11:18
Ken Freire
This is everything that's in here.
00:11:19
Shawn Lemon
yeah yeah
00:11:20
Ken Freire
And that's huge for people. I think most people may walk away and be like, oh, my gosh, that's mind blowing. You know, because I don't think that way.
00:11:25
Shawn Lemon
yeah
00:11:28
Ken Freire
I mean, you and I have both seen systems, backend systems, and we're like, you weren't thinking about anything when you built this.
00:11:36
Ken Freire
One of the things that I have found, Sean, is that A lot of times people, because they feel so overwhelmed on the inside, they tend to do things really fast and dirty, right?
00:11:46
Ken Freire
Like they might start new file and they're like, hey, let me just save it in the G drive, right?
00:11:46
Shawn Lemon
yeah.
00:11:51
Ken Freire
Like, let me just throw it in there. And then later on, I'll move it.
00:11:55
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:11:55
Ken Freire
And they don't build a system to put it in the right place at the right time.
00:11:58
Shawn Lemon
Mm hmm.
00:11:59
Ken Freire
So then all of a sudden, they're just kind of like six months is go by. They don't update anything. And now everything's just in one hot mess.
00:12:04
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:12:07
Shawn Lemon
Mm hmm.
00:12:08
Ken Freire
I need to help someone with that mindset that feels really overwhelmed in that moment to say, hey, let me slow down enough and just put this where it should go.
00:12:16
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Well, there's a couple of different ways to attack this. The first thing that needs to be put in place is we need to create a place for that stuff.
00:12:28
Shawn Lemon
It needs to be approached as a project. This isn't something that's ongoing that we're constantly doing. I do not want to have to organize every day.
00:12:37
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:12:37
Shawn Lemon
I want to download a file and put it right where it needs to go and name it right when I'm downloading it so that I don't have to organize it later. But I can't do that if I don't have the spot for it.
00:12:49
Shawn Lemon
So that's what we're getting to, but we have to create the spot first. And so... If we think about our kitchen, we have drawers and cabinets that where we're putting different things. We may have a section on the countertop because we access those things so frequently that they're right there on the countertop within reach.
00:13:09
Shawn Lemon
So we have to think about where everything is. And sometimes, you know, in organization, we just need a container for it.
00:13:17
Ken Freire
Yeah. yeah.
00:13:17
Shawn Lemon
Like I need a container for all of the pens. Otherwise they just get dumped into the junk drawer. So like, what is it that we actually need to create? And so I actually have a ah free free download for this that you can get. We'll link it in the show notes, but it's the file organization guide.
00:13:35
Shawn Lemon
So it's how do we actually consolidate everything together, purge it, and then create a good filing structure that has things accounted for like finance, right? This is an ongoing responsibility, not necessarily a project.
00:13:48
Shawn Lemon
Whereas marketing, I have some assets, but most of my marketing stuff are actually projects. So evergreen resources that I need at the front end, and then I need projects.
00:13:55
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:13:58
Shawn Lemon
And so we need this type of thinking of... this is how I work and this is what I need. And I need a space to be able to get this quickly. That's how we're, we're organizing things.
00:14:11
Shawn Lemon
So inside of marketing, we're going to a few set folders of, you know, headshots, logos, you know, uh, different forms like lead, lead magnets, whatever those things are that you're accessing frequently.
00:14:23
Shawn Lemon
And then they can get pulled into projects as needed.
00:14:26
Ken Freire
Yeah. You know,
File Organization Strategies
00:14:28
Ken Freire
the one picture i got as you were talking about that, and I think everybody should go get that, that free lead magnet that you got.
00:14:33
Shawn Lemon
Yeah, it's a PDF and it's linked to a bunch of videos too.
00:14:34
Ken Freire
It's PDF.
00:14:36
Shawn Lemon
So it's really comprehensive actually.
00:14:36
Ken Freire
Perfect.
00:14:39
Ken Freire
you know, it's the people that this gives me always a little stroke every time I see it, but, and I know it will for you too, Sean, when they open up their laptop and they have like 50,000 documents on their desktop and you're like, Oh dear God, what have you done?
00:14:54
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:56
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. In some cases, they're actually trying to organize geographically.
00:15:01
Ken Freire
yeah.
00:15:02
Shawn Lemon
like their brain thinks more ah like spatially ah ah rather than like, uh, categorizing things. So some people categorize and then that's the person who will create a folder for a single item.
00:15:13
Shawn Lemon
You know, it's like, why are we creating a folder for three things? So I used to do that, by the way. But then then a lot of people, they're organizing geographically. It's like if you think if their house is a mess, it's like, oh, well, I know exactly where, you know, the ah ah the tongs are. It's going to be in this specific spot.
00:15:33
Shawn Lemon
Or, yeah, I left this book over here because of whatever they think about it spatially. And then a lot of times they just don't have a place for it.
00:15:38
Ken Freire
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:42
Shawn Lemon
Or they do have a place for it. Oh my gosh, I'm giving you different examples. But they do have a place for it, but it's not easy enough. And in the end, that's what it really comes down to.
00:15:52
Shawn Lemon
When the pressure is on, don't care how organized and disciplined you are, you're going to create a mess. When you have to move fast, it's just inevitably going to happen. Nobody's perfect. I have stuff on, I have two things on my desktop right now because I need to do something with them and I want them in my visual space.
00:16:10
Shawn Lemon
Yesterday had like 13 items on my desktop because I'm putting stuff in and out. I'm using it like a desktop and I want to move really fast.
00:16:17
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:16:20
Shawn Lemon
I, and, and I don't need to keep all this stuff. So yeah, I'm just going to trash it from here. And the stuff that I wanted to keep, I ended up putting it away because it was like two clicks away to get to that folder and put it in the right spot.
00:16:33
Shawn Lemon
So cleanup is fast. and, and yeah, if if you've created this over engineered folder system, that's not going to work either. Yeah.
00:16:41
Ken Freire
Yeah. You know, i'm hopefully my wife doesn't get mad about this, but you just gave me a huge marriage insight to my married life. Because ah I I think my wife is a spatial person. Like she's she organizes stuff you're you're geographically.
00:16:55
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:16:55
Ken Freire
I'm very organized type A, like, hey, let's put this here.
00:16:58
Ken Freire
But I'll give you this funny story. My daughter, well, we have three daughters, right? And we always have to brush their hair and we have to spray it because sometimes it gets tangled and all that stuff, right? And I'm like, hey, the tangler and the brush should go in the bathroom, right? Because that's where like all the bathroom stuff goes.
00:17:14
Ken Freire
And she's like, no, we're putting it in the kitchen in the cabinet here because it's easily accessible from when they were brushing their hair, which is right after breakfast at the kitchen table.
00:17:14
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:17:14
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:17:25
Ken Freire
And I'm like, but it doesn't go there because that's a kitchen cabinet. like We've had this argument it so many times and finally I've relented.
00:17:32
Ken Freire
But as soon as you were talking about that, i no joke, I'm laughing. I'm like, this is why she does this. It's that spatial awareness. Like, oh, it's just easy. It's right there.
00:17:40
Shawn Lemon
It's right where you're working.
00:17:40
Ken Freire
Right?
00:17:41
Shawn Lemon
And when you've got three kids, it's chaotic and you have a lot to do. Like, are you going to go in, go into the bathroom? Like, no, they're like running all like you have. No, it's you just need it right there, right then.
00:17:56
Shawn Lemon
And that's really how we want to organize in business right where you need it. And so I'm not going to have a huge folder structure, like go into finance and have 30 folders right there.
00:18:09
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:18:09
Shawn Lemon
I'm also not going to have four folders, only four folders that I have to double click, double click.
00:18:13
Shawn Lemon
Oh, it's not there. Let me back up and go to the next folder. No, I need the stuff that I access most frequently in that top layer. Right inside of finance.
00:18:25
Shawn Lemon
And then if there's anything older, it goes another layer deeper than that.
Essential Tech Stack for Solopreneurs
00:18:29
Shawn Lemon
So I'll have an archive for stuff that's like, it's truly not relevant anymore. I'm not going to be accessing it except for, I need to get something from the archive.
00:18:38
Shawn Lemon
But in HR, I've got contractors. And so I have active contractors up at the top. And then all of the ones who are not active, they're in inactive.
00:18:50
Shawn Lemon
That's the same thing with my clients.
00:18:51
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:18:52
Shawn Lemon
Like it's only this stuff up front. And then you go layer deeper and you can find what you're looking for. And you can just scroll real quickly or search for it or whatever you need.
00:19:00
Ken Freire
Yeah. So with all that, you we've been throwing out a little bit of the tech stack, right? Let's get a little practical for the people who are listening to this. They're like, I'm with you.
00:19:07
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:19:08
Ken Freire
This sounds awesome. I think for some people, it's to mind blowing. Like, I never thought about it that way.
00:19:12
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:19:12
Ken Freire
Especially just even like, oh, put everything in front of you in one layer, like the main layer.
00:19:17
Shawn Lemon
Mm-hmm.
00:19:17
Ken Freire
And things that are not important, put it a layer deeper.
00:19:20
Shawn Lemon
That blew my mind too, actually, when I learned it. Mm-hmm.
00:19:25
Ken Freire
No, I mean, but it's so you say it that way, you're just like, duh. But yeah, like most people don't think that way.
00:19:29
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:19:29
Ken Freire
And that's huge. So I want to make sure people walk away with that and be like, yes, that's what I'm going to do.
00:19:34
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:19:35
Ken Freire
But then.
00:19:36
Shawn Lemon
And stop organizing email too.
00:19:38
Ken Freire
Oh, yeah. Stop working on.
00:19:39
Shawn Lemon
Like 100 folders. it just creates more work for you.
00:19:41
Ken Freire
Oh. I used to do that, man. i to have like 57 folders and I'm like, oh, and I'm like, need to do another podcast on on like how to properly organize your email.
00:19:46
Shawn Lemon
too. Yep.
00:19:52
Shawn Lemon
Absolutely.
00:19:54
Ken Freire
So you're not freaking out. That's a teaser for people. They're like, we want to now or just go follow Sean.
00:19:57
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:19:58
Ken Freire
Right. Yeah. But Sean, what Sean, what what would be a good, as you think about digital organization for entrepreneurs, solopreneurs who are like, man, I know I need to move fast.
00:20:10
Ken Freire
And this is actually stopping me from growing my business because I'm too overwhelmed.
00:20:14
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:16
Ken Freire
I'm spending hours, countless of hours, just throwing it around here, throwing around there, where they could have just been in deep work creating things. getting revenue in.
00:20:24
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:20:25
Ken Freire
know everybody's tech stack is going to be different, right?
00:20:28
Ken Freire
And where they're at. But in general, what would you say are some of the key components or key techs, tech stacks that they need?
00:20:28
Shawn Lemon
There are
00:20:34
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:20:36
Ken Freire
Okay.
00:20:37
Shawn Lemon
Email, we got to communicate.
00:20:40
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:20:40
Shawn Lemon
So I'm not going to bring up Slack or some of the others because we're talking solopreneurs. So email, we got to have it under control and have a good system and realize that email is for communicating.
00:20:53
Shawn Lemon
Not for filing. It's not file storage. That's not we want to send and receive files and do versions back and forth. That's why we have Google Drive and OneDrive and whatever.
00:21:05
Shawn Lemon
You share a file, you collaborate on and we don't have to worry about who's got version, the latest version. Oh, no, I only have version four.
00:21:12
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:21:12
Shawn Lemon
I don't even know what version we're on. What the date that email was sent? No, we need files and files and we sometimes need to send something great.
00:21:17
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:21:23
Shawn Lemon
You know, so i can go down the rabbit hole there, but got to get email down to communication and and be able to process it really quickly. Files is the next thing.
00:21:33
Shawn Lemon
So files touches everything or everything touches our files. So email, task management, sometimes even password or password managers. We need to save things securely.
00:21:45
Shawn Lemon
I mean, there's all kinds of things that need files. We have to have a really good filing system. And ideally, we want one source of truth.
00:21:53
Ken Freire
Hmm.
00:21:54
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:21:54
Shawn Lemon
that with a very focused filing system where it's light, it's lean, you open it and it's what's right on top is what you're working on.
00:22:04
Shawn Lemon
And we treat, We can have Dropbox, iCloud, Box, OneDrive, all the rest, but I'm using Google Drive for my file system.
00:22:14
Shawn Lemon
And I treat those other things like mailboxes. I'll put a file out there for you if you want it. You can deliver it to me there, but I'm bringing it inside and I'm either throwing it away I'm putting it in my filing cabinet.
00:22:28
Shawn Lemon
which is Google Drive. So we got to turn this around and think whatever platform you decide on, and that actually isn't very important. It's just deciding which one it is because you can easily move everything from one to another when you decide you want to migrate.
00:22:44
Shawn Lemon
Then task management, project management, absolutely huge. We have to know what we're working on, what the next priority is, who's responsible, where we're at in the project, because as solos,
00:22:57
Shawn Lemon
There's so much going on and so many different hats that we're wearing. We don't always get the luxury of just deep work into one thing at a time and able to focus on a huge initiative for like a week.
00:23:09
Shawn Lemon
You've got so many other things to do.
00:23:10
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:23:11
Shawn Lemon
So, so being able to track that stuff and know where you're at is huge. And then as you bring in contractors and employees, if you want to do that, you also need everyone working out of the same space and and able to communicate there.
00:23:28
Shawn Lemon
Because why should we email or Slack about a task that's in our our task manager? where we can actually have a conversation right in context. doing that well is huge. And then the last one is passwords. It can wreck your morning not having your passwords dialed in. It's fine until it's not.
00:23:50
Shawn Lemon
And if you get hacked, i mean, mean, that's a whole other story, but we'll just talk about daily workflow. You need to be able to log into an account And it just fill everything in for you so you can get to work.
00:24:03
Shawn Lemon
Not, I need to do this real quick and now I'm locked out. I got to go my email, my email. Oh my God, my client just emailed and they need to do this. And so I'm losing track and I'm having to say no to so many different things just because I'm trying to reset my freaking password.
Recommended Tools for Efficiency
00:24:17
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:24:17
Shawn Lemon
So those four things, you get those dialed in really well, and there isn't that much else you need to do. Like from there, you laser target the next piece of the tech stack and you use it for that specific thing that you need it for, because you have all the other bases covered.
00:24:36
Shawn Lemon
We I've gotten, you know, in my tech stack, there are probably at minimum 11 places to store files.
00:24:43
Shawn Lemon
I don't store files in my CRM, in Asana, in any of these other tools. They get stored in my file management system. So that's where we can ignore and it doesn't, all the shiny things that are supposed to integrate it all together and have one place for it You don't need that because you're using tools that were designed for file storage there.
00:25:06
Shawn Lemon
I don't want to use ClickUp because ClickUp does everything. That means if they do everything, they're not doing it all well. You can't do everything perfectly.
00:25:12
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:25:14
Shawn Lemon
That's the cool thing about Dropbox. They do one thing. And I think they're the best out there. I use Google Drive anyway because it makes more sense for my business. But... you know, there's something to be said of using a dedicated tool.
00:25:26
Shawn Lemon
And in that case, I have five, six tools and it doesn't matter because they're so easy to work with.
00:25:33
Ken Freire
Yeah, funny story on the password. Just how important this is. Literally, I was trying to reset a password and forgot to put it in my password tool, right?
00:25:43
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:25:43
Ken Freire
I was like, so now I'm trying to go by memory. could not get it. I'm trying to reset it. And this literally happened to me a week ago.
00:25:51
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:25:51
Ken Freire
Like my two-step authentication wasn't working. So I spent like an hour and a half trying to reset this account.
00:25:54
Shawn Lemon
don't know.
00:25:59
Ken Freire
And by the time I'm done, I'm just frustrated. I'm like annoyed because I was like something that should have taken 30 seconds to log into to get a file from and log in and get a file from.
00:26:06
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:26:08
Ken Freire
I spent an hour and a half and then I finally logged and it wasn't even there.
00:26:09
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:26:13
Ken Freire
It was somewhere else.
00:26:15
Shawn Lemon
Oh no, that's brutal.
00:26:16
Ken Freire
oh oh So I was just like, oh, dear God. And my friend, Dan Sanchez, were actually at a coffee shop. he He's like, you all right? I'm like, I freaking hate this thing right now. I'm like, about to drop kick it.
00:26:26
Ken Freire
But it happens.
00:26:26
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:26:27
Ken Freire
And I'm like, I think about that hour and a half. And I bring this up because that hour and a half, it could have been used for me doing deep work.
00:26:32
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:26:33
Ken Freire
It could have been me doing outreach. It could have been me doing another sales call.
00:26:35
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:26:37
Ken Freire
So many things, but I lost it in that hour and a half.
00:26:40
Ken Freire
Just because I couldn't, I didn't do the job of actually saving the password the first time. And that's what you're talking about. was like saving this time, saving the the saving the the your ability to have good mental headspace to actually execute on the things that needed to be executed on.
00:26:57
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:26:58
Ken Freire
Sean, as you think about these things, i've I've heard i've I've heard you say for filing, you use Google ah for task management, Asana.
00:27:07
Ken Freire
What would you recommend for password protection and then for email?
00:27:10
Ken Freire
Do you just use Gmail or do you use like Outlook and have all your other personal email accounts there? Just give recommendations for people as they're thinking about this stuff. Okay.
00:27:18
Shawn Lemon
Totally. So I use 1Password. That's the app called 1Password, the numeral one, no space and password. It's my favorite out there. I think it's the best. It's, you know, if you've used and been successful with LastPass, you'll be even, it'll be even better on 1Password.
00:27:35
Shawn Lemon
If you didn't have, didn't weren't successful with LastPass is because there's a lot of friction there and 1Password makes it easier.
00:27:41
Ken Freire
Yeah. All right.
00:27:42
Shawn Lemon
So the thing is, With any of these tools, you really have to spend some time setting it up completely. Don't half-ass this. It's not going to serve you. It'll make it worse.
00:27:55
Shawn Lemon
So approach it as a project and get it all in there and do it right in the first place. I've got a guide for that too. You can find it on social media. I've to download for that.
Harnessing AI for Productivity
00:28:05
Shawn Lemon
So do that well.
00:28:08
Shawn Lemon
And ah email. I don't really care so much what people use as far as email goes, but I want to make sure that they have the ability to snooze something, save it later, use keyboard shortcuts, and have templates.
00:28:27
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:28:27
Shawn Lemon
So, um, those are all great things. The app that I use right now is called missive and missive is cool because it allows me to pull in multiple inboxes.
00:28:39
Shawn Lemon
And then, because I have a team of contractors in one employee, employee, um I need to be able to communicate within the team about an email that comes in.
00:28:52
Shawn Lemon
So if I get you get you something, maybe maybe I'm managing something for a client and I see that a Microsoft Office account is about to renew and we don't actually need that anymore. needs to be canceled.
00:29:04
Shawn Lemon
Well, I get the notice that it's about to renew. So I share that with Ryan and assign it to him and say, hey, can you go in and cancel this for me? And so he opens up email, that email that wasn't sent to him is in his inbox and he sees the note underneath.
00:29:18
Ken Freire
Hmm.
00:29:20
Shawn Lemon
And then we can talk about it, you know, right from there. Are there any others like which, sorry, which one is it? Oh, it's the E3 that you're um And so we can have this conversation right where that came in.
00:29:32
Shawn Lemon
um And there's templates, keyboard shortcuts. I integrate my ChatGPT API with it so I can have it sort. my emails for me automatically. I can have it create drafts for me automatically and stuff like that. So it's pretty cool, robust system if you need something sophisticated.
00:29:51
Shawn Lemon
Spark is another good one that has a lot of those features, um but I just don't think they do it as reliably as Missive does. does. um And since we're starting to work with larger companies, it makes more sense for us to use Missive daily, actually kind of prefer Spark.
00:30:08
Ken Freire
Okay.
00:30:08
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:30:09
Shawn Lemon
And then there's a new one out there if you really want to go heavy and it do a lot of stuff for you. It is called shortwave. I haven't started using it yet, but a trusted friend of mine says that he's using it.
00:30:24
Shawn Lemon
And it is a combination of superhuman and missive. Now, all of the really good AI stuff in superhuman, um but without your email accounts separated by tabs.
00:30:37
Shawn Lemon
And so you can have it more like a traditional traditional um email client, like Apple mail, mail, where you can have a unified inbox of three different accounts pulling into that one app. And you can see the inbox of all three in the same spot.
00:30:52
Shawn Lemon
So you get some really cool features with that. And I'll be experimenting with that one next.
00:30:57
Ken Freire
Yeah. Awesome, man. Well, as soon as you do, let me know how it goes. You'd be like, I found a new one.
00:31:01
Shawn Lemon
Yep.
00:31:01
Shawn Lemon
Yep.
00:31:02
Ken Freire
Okay. so So a couple of things there. Hopefully that's helpful for you guys, the audience, as you listen to this. I know it's helpful for me to hear what people are using, practical tech stacks. As we wrap up our conversation, I I want to let leave the last few moments here to talk about AI.
00:31:18
Shawn Lemon
Yep.
00:31:18
Ken Freire
And I know that's something you're you've been in. You're starting to use a lot more.
00:31:20
Shawn Lemon
Oh yeah.
00:31:22
Ken Freire
How are you using AI for your digital organization? Because sounds like, hey, let's first get the right frameworks. Here's the fundamental four things that you need to do. So if you haven't done those things, go first do that before you dabble with AI.
00:31:34
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:31:35
Ken Freire
But once you do, what are some kind of key things that you're learning about AI and how are you using it to master your digital organization?
00:31:45
Shawn Lemon
So I'm not helping it to do much organization because all of that is handled. It helps me to respond to tricky email situations.
00:31:58
Shawn Lemon
ah It helps, but the biggest thing is actually in project management and task management.
00:32:04
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:32:05
Shawn Lemon
So, um, if you're familiar with the working genius assessment and that whole concept, you have wonder and invention, which is all like the front end. Then you have discernment and, and, um, uh, enablement in the middle.
00:32:17
Ken Freire
Is it enablement?
00:32:21
Shawn Lemon
And, uh, so discernment, like which one should we choose? Which idea should we choose that the front end is generating? And then the last ones, um, the ones, um, the encouragement, what's what's that one called? and
00:32:32
Ken Freire
galvanize and yeah.
00:32:33
Shawn Lemon
Galvanize. So galvanize and then tenacity at the end.
00:32:37
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:32:37
Shawn Lemon
I'm all front end. So that's wonder and invention. So I'm the person to figure it all out, to know where, you know, what the possibilities are, like all of that. Like I'm and the initial creator and I go in order of sucking at the rest.
00:32:54
Shawn Lemon
So at the very back end, like galvanizing galvanizing and and tenacity and like the discernment's like, eh. So I've got a ridiculous amount of ideas and I think a lot of solopreneurs do.
00:33:05
Shawn Lemon
And so, ah ah but figuring out which one I should go with and when everything feels important to me and I wanna get it all done right now, that's a hard place to be And AI has, that's probably one of the most powerful things for me is being able to put it in there
00:33:05
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:33:29
Shawn Lemon
do a huge 10 minute rant. I just turn on the microphone and just talk about what's going on. These are my priorities and the whole thing. Um, and have it helped me figure out what I should be doing next, what the most important thing is, and then to break it down into its component parts so that I can just do individual tasks.
00:33:49
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:33:52
Shawn Lemon
I can think macro, I can think micro, all of the, Organization for everything in between is not my skill set. And so that's where ChatGPT and this specific conversation that I use is so incredibly helpful for me.
00:34:10
Shawn Lemon
And so it's it it when put to use, it can shore up your weaknesses. And so that's just been a huge, huge thing for me of...
00:34:22
Shawn Lemon
really having to figure to figure it out and break it down and figure out that project management piece that isn't my favorite thing to do.
00:34:28
Ken Freire
Yeah. sounds like a couple of things I heard. One, it helps you with decision making.
00:34:32
Shawn Lemon
Yep.
00:34:32
Ken Freire
Right. Number two, the organization of your project management. Like, how should we structure it? How should we do this? Am I missing anything? Right. So you might like just brain dump. I'm using this as an example. Like, you're like, hey, I'm working with Ken, building out his structure, but he's got some weird convoluted ah contracts.
00:34:50
Ken Freire
How to best assess it or bring things in. And you just see what ChatGPT tells you to do.
00:34:55
Ken Freire
Is that kind how you use it or?
00:34:55
Shawn Lemon
No, we've got that stuff pretty much figured out.
00:34:58
Shawn Lemon
It's more like...
00:34:58
Ken Freire
Okay.
00:35:02
Shawn Lemon
I've got a few different areas strategically I could go in with the business. I have a resource library. This is that you can purchase and it is, it's beyond a course.
00:35:12
Shawn Lemon
I call it a library because you're not expected to watch everything. There's so much content in there, but it's, it's structured in a way that makes a lot of sense and will take you through the entire process that we take our clients through with fancy tools and doing it manually, like choose your own adventure.
00:35:16
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:35:29
Shawn Lemon
how it goes. so So I can start advertising for this and really going deeper into this, expanding into more AI training and all of this sort of thing. Or I know that I need to start doubling down on larger sized businesses where we're looking at 30 to 100 employees and solving different types of problems and redoing some messaging for some of that stuff.
00:35:52
Shawn Lemon
And And then there's a few other things. This is a conversation that had yesterday. I I got a whole bunch of new ideas and it's like, this feels really important and I might need to make some of this shift.
00:36:02
Ken Freire
Hmm.
00:36:04
Shawn Lemon
And so I had to just go through this process. It was an eight minute phone, you know, or like, you know, mic recording to go through and reasserted my priorities for the business over the next 90 days.
00:36:09
Ken Freire
Yeah, audio.
00:36:17
Shawn Lemon
And it just helped me to categorize that and realize like, this is where going have the most leverage. This is what gives you the most energy. This other thing will play into it, but that's later on down the road. We need to get this done first.
00:36:31
Shawn Lemon
It's like, yeah, you're right. And then there's a couple of things. It's just like, no, I don't want to do that. Actually, that's a bad idea. We're going to scratch that. Let's just take that out of the plan. So it's that type of thinking where I need to bounce this off of someone.
00:36:45
Shawn Lemon
And, And, um, and you know, but I don't have someone right now that I need to talk to them about. And, and a human can help me in other areas of my limiting beliefs and some of these things, but, uh, I need to get this thought out right now.
00:37:00
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:37:03
Shawn Lemon
And then I just started recreating the customer avatar and doing the whole thing. And all that work was done in chat, GBT with other resources that I had created.
00:37:12
Ken Freire
Yeah. Which is funny because I remember you send that to me last night, right?
00:37:15
Shawn Lemon
Yeah, I made that that day.
00:37:15
Ken Freire
Because we were getting ready for this conversation. Okay. I was like, wow, this, I was like, either he had this planned out already or like, it was just fun that you had that. And I read it through. I'm like, oh, good to know.
00:37:24
Shawn Lemon
Well, that's that's ah the other part of where ai and organization come together. So as you start advancing in your advancing in your into your ChatGPT usage, you will find that you need certain resources over and over again.
00:37:41
Shawn Lemon
If you want to create an email campaign, like, yes, ChatGPT remembers things about your business, but it doesn't remember them And it's there's so much convoluted stuff, you can't trust it.
00:37:48
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:37:52
Shawn Lemon
And you can't trust it to remember to speak in your voice and some of these other things. You constantly have to reinforce the rules and how you want things done. And so when you start creating guides, like I have a ah guide for my brand voice, for my program guide, rules on writing, writing, um my customer avatar. These are documents that I will upload into chat GPT over and over again when I'm creating a GPT.
00:38:18
Shawn Lemon
And Then to create that GPT, I need to be able to save all of those instructions somewhere. I may be speaking over some people's heads. You're going to get there. Come back to this, you know, or reach out to me because you will get to a point where it's just like this makes sense.
00:38:28
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:38:36
Shawn Lemon
but it's taking me way too long to create because our tolerances of how long it takes to create something is going down so quickly that then we actually need to strategically think about creating resources and saving them in a specific way so that they're at hand really easily.
00:38:52
Shawn Lemon
And so that's the other component is we're creating stuff really fast, both deliverables for our clients or you know marketing email sequences sequences ah or strategy stuff.
00:39:04
Shawn Lemon
And it needs to know the context and we've got to be able to save all of that somewhere. How do we do it?
00:39:10
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:39:11
Shawn Lemon
And what should we save?
00:39:11
Ken Freire
I love it. I love it. Sean, are you not now we're going into that rabbit hole I talked about earlier today, but we'll it real quick. Are you doing custom GPTs or is this just like every single time you're just opening up a new chat GPT, putting the documents in?
00:39:25
Shawn Lemon
Uh, I'm typically creating custom GBTs.
00:39:28
Ken Freire
Okay.
00:39:28
Shawn Lemon
And then if I use something frequently like my brand voice and, uh, rules for, writing, um, where, how I like it to structure sentences because my brand voice has that, but it still ignores it because there's a lot in the brand voice.
00:39:43
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:39:43
Ken Freire
Yep. Yeah.
00:39:43
Shawn Lemon
So I need to to reinforce it again with additional rules.
00:39:47
Shawn Lemon
I have keyboard shortcuts using an app called text expander. that I just put in semicolon voice and it fills in my entire brand voice for me.
00:39:55
Shawn Lemon
And then I do semicolon rules and it puts in all of the rules. And so I'll start a conversation and say, hey, I'm going give you some rules and some let Acknowledge that you're ready. This way it knows not to like criticize my brand voice or try and add it.
00:40:08
Shawn Lemon
So So i put that statement in, use my shortcut and everything about how I want to speak gets put in.
00:40:16
Shawn Lemon
It says, yes, great. I'm ready to go. you want to do? Create this, you know, and then it makes its suggestions and I tell it what we're doing. Uh-huh.
00:40:23
Ken Freire
Dude, I love that. So I used to use TextExpander and I paused it for a while because I was like, I i wasn't using wasn't using as much.
00:40:30
Ken Freire
But now you just got me to place where i like I'm going to bring it back because what I used to do or right now what I'm doing is for stuff that I consistently send to ChatGPT, I just have it on like a, again, because it's fast.
00:40:30
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:40:33
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:40:40
Ken Freire
I have a folder in my Apple Notes that I'm just like copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, paste.
00:40:42
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:40:45
Ken Freire
But if I could just do a quick key command, that'd be awesome.
00:40:46
Shawn Lemon
You don't need to do that. Yeah, yeah. Semicolon voice, semicolon EM, semicolon one-on-one. That's my program guide. All of the details about the business.
00:40:54
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:40:55
Shawn Lemon
Because it'll start thinking like, oh yeah, you've got this. you've got this. and And with the promo code, whatever, for founding members, I'm like, dude, that was over a year ago. like Why do you keep referencing this?
00:41:06
Shawn Lemon
I told you and scrubbed this from memory and yet it's still pulling in this old coupon code. It's like, that doesn't work, dude.
00:41:12
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:41:13
Ken Freire
Oh, that's hilarious.
Conclusion and Resources
00:41:14
Ken Freire
Yes, it does that to me every once a while. I'm like, I'm so annoyed right now. So I'll just go in and edit it. But I like that. I'm going to take that personally for myself. So I appreciate that, Sean. For those who are listening to this and they're like, Sean's a genius, which you are, ah in the digital organization space, and they want to reach out to you.
00:41:32
Ken Freire
What's the best way to reach out to you and help and give them some guidance and help on the next steps of like, I need to get my life in order.
00:41:39
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Yeah. So the first thing is find the show notes, download that guide.
00:41:46
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:41:46
Shawn Lemon
That is a fantastic starting point. You're going to get on my newsletter from there. And then once you're done with that, go take the quiz on the website. So go, you know, check it out, see, see what we've got there.
00:41:57
Shawn Lemon
And there's a quiz that will ask poignant questions about how effective your organization systems are. It's not, you know, how are you organizing your files, but, but in our viewpoint, how effective, how quick, you know, things like that, that'll get you pointed in the right direction.
00:42:14
Shawn Lemon
And then right in there, uh, after you do that, it's like, is this something that you want to talk to me about? You can book a a call right there and would love to talk to you and see if, uh, you know, getting some help with us makes sense.
00:42:26
Ken Freire
Yeah, and and and I would encourage people who are listening to this that there are times when you're like, hey, I'm walking in my strengths and then you're not walking in your strengths. Kind of what, Sean, you alluded to earlier where you're like, the farther I get down the working genius, the harder it is, the less joy you have.
00:42:41
Ken Freire
And I know for some people, just organization is not their thing.
00:42:44
Ken Freire
And I think that's why, Sean, i've I've told you this you this time and time again, man, I want people to get to know what you're doing and see what you're doing because you are providing immense value to people who just feel stuck.
00:42:44
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:42:44
Shawn Lemon
Yeah.
00:42:56
Ken Freire
And I think that if they could get the mind space back to be able to go be creative, man, that will actually help impact societies and their families and everything or more because they feel like they could actually be present instead of running around like a like a chicken with their head cut off.
00:43:13
Ken Freire
That's the that's what you provide, man. And it's always been a blessing. Even shared this with another guy that I was talking to the other day that I was like, I remember when I was trying to decide a laptop.
00:43:25
Ken Freire
because I was just getting ready to buy a laptop.
00:43:25
Shawn Lemon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:26
Ken Freire
And I think you and I were just texting and you're like, you just gave me so much clarity so quickly. And what I loved about it, and this is why I think you guys should go reach out to Sean again, is that like, you were just, I was like, I'm not sure what to do.
00:43:37
Ken Freire
And I'm techie, like I'm pretty good tech wise, but I just didn't know. And you're like, no, you're going want this. Trust me. And I'm like, okay. I just bought it.
00:43:45
Shawn Lemon
yeah
00:43:45
Ken Freire
Like, didn't have to think about it. And I was like, wow, I just saved myself like two hours of time of like researching it because I went to you.
00:43:50
Ken Freire
I went to the expert and you helped me out so much. So for those of you who are listening, man, go check out Sean's guide. It's going to be in the show notes. Sean, it's been a blessing. Thank you so much for being on the podcast.
00:44:01
Ken Freire
Any final words for those listening to this show?
00:44:05
Shawn Lemon
Yeah, I would say, well, first off, thank you. It's been really fun. And all of you listening, you can do this.
00:44:09
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:44:14
Shawn Lemon
Like this may sound intimidating. Like if we went too far and talking about AI or or, you know, creating, restructuring the whole thing, it is not as hard as you think it is.
00:44:26
Ken Freire
Yeah.
00:44:26
Shawn Lemon
It's just about doing them in order. And doing it in a really efficient way so that you can go through that process and get to the finish line. And it can happen so much faster than you think you can.
00:44:40
Shawn Lemon
And so it's just about, yeah, doing it in order. We figured out. really fast ways to do this. And so, you know, go, go check out these guides. I've got, I've got one for, for each one of these four categories that I was talking um because this is something that you can absolutely do. And then if you just don't want to do it, of course, I'd love, love for you to talk to me and see if it's something that you want to outsource.
00:45:06
Ken Freire
I love it. Well, Sean, thank you for coming to the show. And then for those of you listening, if your digital life does feel like a junk drawer right now, Sean just handed you the blueprint to reduce burnout and build a sustainable solo business.
00:45:19
Ken Freire
Organize smarter, avoid overload, and let systems give you your time and sanity back. Subscribe to this podcast if you want more playbooks and practical, tactical tips like this.
00:45:31
Ken Freire
Hope you guys have a great day.