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NFL Mock Draft 1.0: Cam Ward Goes #1?! Full First-Round Breakdown + Surprise Trades!
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The Bush League Huddle crew is BACK with our biggest episode yet: a full 2025 NFL First-Round Mock Draft!
With just 10 days until the NFL Draft, Rog, Fab & Nacc go pick-by-pick through a loaded class of elite edge rushers, trench beasts, and polarizing QBs.
🔥 Cam Ward at #1
👀 Travis Hunter to Cleveland, Abdul Carter, Armand Membou number 1 OT prospect?
🚨 Shedeur Sanders, Jackson Dart & Milroe all go Round 1?! Tet McMillan gets pair with a top WR?
🧠 Insightful breakdowns, wild trades, and plenty of fantasy football impact.
If you're prepping for the draft, fantasy rookie season, or just love football chaos, this one’s for you.
📺 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bushleaguehuddle
🎧 Listen on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6VtfMzydvDyA39uh0ygWz1?si=b6f9ccfe21d04dfa) & Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bush-league-huddle-fantasy-football-podcast/id1736359425)
🗣️ Hit the comments with YOUR top picks!
#NFLMockDraft #FantasyFootball #NFLDraft2025 #CamWard #BushLeagueHuddle
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Transcript
Introduction & Mock Draft Excitement
00:00:03
Roger Emeka
Welcome to the Bushley Cuddle Fantasy Football Podcast. We're just 10 days away from the NFL Draft, and you know what that means? It's time for Mock Draft Monday.
Mock Draft Analysis Begins
00:00:13
Roger Emeka
This is version 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, our first and only full-round mock draft, where Fab, Nak, and myself, Raj, take turns making picks through a draft class loaded with talent in the trenches and off the edge.
00:00:28
Roger Emeka
Let's get into it.
Tennessee Titans' Quarterback Dilemma
00:00:31
Roger Emeka
iy and the Titans, are on the clock.
00:00:37
Nacc
Let's go.
00:00:38
Fab
I can't wait to hear that music live.
00:00:41
Roger Emeka
I know, man. It's so sweet. That chime is so sweet. I hope we don't get copyright infringement. um
00:00:48
Nacc
a
00:00:49
Fab
Wow.
00:00:49
Roger Emeka
so well We'll see when we upload it on YouTube. but The Tennessee Titans are on the clock. Very easy choice. They badly need a QB. Can't go through Will Levis experiment again.
00:01:01
Roger Emeka
So we are taking Cam Ward of Miami, Florida. Look, I don't think he's the number one prospect. I don't think anyone had him as the number one prospect in the draft, but he's by far the number one QB, so it's an easy choice.
00:01:14
Roger Emeka
And Brian Callahan and that regime need a lot of juice emphasis.
Cleveland Browns' Strategy: Talent Over Need
00:01:19
Roger Emeka
So that's the pick on that front.
00:01:22
Nacc
What do you think, um like Will Levis, you think he's upset? you think he demands to be traded? you think I mean, I guess you hope he's like that, first of all, but...
00:01:31
Roger Emeka
so So I just spoke to him on the phone as a general manager of the Titans.
00:01:31
Fab
Yeah.
00:01:35
Nacc
but
00:01:36
Roger Emeka
um I told him it's going to be open competition. Cam Ward's coming in as a rookie. Look, like similar to how we similar to how they were the commanders did with Jaden Daniels, nothing is given. Everything has to be earned.
00:01:49
Roger Emeka
But yeah, knowing the the type of moxie he has, he's pretty pissed.
00:01:53
Fab
Yeah, yeah.
00:01:54
Roger Emeka
So.
00:01:54
Nacc
Yeah, this one was pretty much a no-brainer, though. They've been talking about this for for for weeks.
00:01:58
Roger Emeka
No brainer.
00:02:01
Nacc
they've had private workouts. Remember when they canceled even Shadur's workout, the private one they had with him So this one.
00:02:02
Fab
Yep.
00:02:06
Fab
That's right.
00:02:07
Roger Emeka
we we like him so much as the Titans. If we had the number one pick, if we if we had a top pick overall last year, we would have taken him at least after Drake May. So that's how much we like him.
00:02:19
Nacc
Interesting.
00:02:20
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:02:21
Fab
Roger with his Tennessee Titans hat on.
00:02:21
Nacc
Interesting.
00:02:25
Roger Emeka
The Cleveland, Hey, I'm got to play character.
00:02:25
Fab
We like him so much.
00:02:29
Roger Emeka
The Cleveland Browns are on the clock. Knack.
00:02:34
Nacc
Yes, this one was a tough decision. um We also potentially need a quarterback. I know we just signed Joe Flacco to be our backup, and we traded for Kenny Pickett. Not necessarily the two we want to go into the regular season with.
00:02:49
Nacc
But we are going to go ahead and take talent over the QB need, and we are going to draft Mr. Travis Hunter, wide receiver cornerback out of Colorado.
00:03:04
Roger Emeka
I thought that one's worth the chime.
00:03:06
Fab
Ha ha
00:03:06
Roger Emeka
It's worth it. It's worth it. It's worth it.
00:03:10
Nacc
Yeah, I think um this is probably the best, if not the second best prospect probably in the whole draft. um I
Giants & Defensive Decisions
00:03:19
Nacc
think they need talent or we need talent.
00:03:21
Nacc
I think that's what we're going with. We're going with I'm the actual GM. um We definitely need some talent and...
00:03:25
Roger Emeka
Okay.
00:03:27
Nacc
um
00:03:30
Nacc
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we revisit coming back into the the top of the draft, or the bottom end of the draft, and we see what we can do. But for now, let's go Travis Hunter, and we're really happy with that pick.
00:03:42
Roger Emeka
It slides ah Cedric Tillman, Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore down perfectly. Like he's a perfect number one and have those guys as number twos and number threes.
00:03:50
Fab
Yeah.
00:03:52
Roger Emeka
I think it's a great pick. you could You couldn't go either way. You couldn't go wrong either way with whether it's him or Abdul Carter.
00:03:58
Fab
Yeah.
00:03:58
Nacc
I just hope they don't ruin him.
00:04:00
Fab
I mean, you don't ruin him.
00:04:02
Nacc
yeah i don't want I don't want to play the GM. I want to play me as the mock GM.
00:04:04
Fab
I
00:04:06
Roger Emeka
Is Deshaun Watson still there?
00:04:08
Nacc
Not this year.
00:04:10
Roger Emeka
I mean, he's in the building.
00:04:11
Fab
i mean, he's making a comeback.
00:04:13
Nacc
ah people
00:04:13
Fab
He's been posting all those workout videos.
00:04:14
Roger Emeka
If he needs...
00:04:15
Nacc
and The owner spoke about him.
00:04:15
Fab
He's,
00:04:15
Roger Emeka
it
00:04:16
Nacc
i don't think he's going to be in the building for for much longer. And I think they're probably still trying to find a way out of that contract with him re-tearing that Achilles. Maybe not in you know the right manner or he wasn't supposed to be doing something.
00:04:30
Nacc
So um We'll see. We'll see what happens. Very interesting interesting times lie ahead for the Cleveland Browns.
00:04:39
Roger Emeka
The Giants are on the clock.
Patriots' Offensive Line Concerns
00:04:41
Roger Emeka
Fab.
00:04:42
Nacc
ah Here he goes.
00:04:45
Fab
I don't get a chime. and don't get a chime.
00:04:49
Nacc
You don't get a chime.
00:04:50
Roger Emeka
we We said not every...
00:04:50
Fab
and don't get a chime.
00:04:52
Roger Emeka
do we
00:04:52
Fab
Drafting drafting the best the best rated player in this draft, arguably, the Giants select out of Penn State.
00:04:53
Roger Emeka
no we said not every
00:05:02
Nacc
Oh!
00:05:04
Fab
Abdul Carter. We are also going with talent over need. Abdul Carter is a absolute stud. he is a disruptor defensive line. on the defensive line ah He wears the number 11.
00:05:18
Fab
And if you have any idea how Micah Parsons been doing, you can have a so good assumption as to how
00:05:21
Roger Emeka
Don't matter.
Jaguars & Raiders: Defensive & Offensive Moves
00:05:23
Fab
Abdul Carr is going to be doing.
00:05:25
Fab
ah Too much talent to pass up. I know that the defensive line right now was already, quote unquote, stacked with Brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence, Tavon Kibodeau.
00:05:33
Roger Emeka
don't matter
00:05:36
Fab
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. This guy is stud. Yeah. it's It's going to be very nice to see him line up opposite of Brian Burns with Dexter Lawrence in the middle and then having Thibodeau to come in as a sub on relief.
00:05:49
Fab
Like this is going to be a defensive front that are going to give a lot of problems to Jaden Daniels and Dak Prescott.
00:05:51
Roger Emeka
and and
00:05:55
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:05:56
Fab
and Jalen Hurts in that division. So this is, ah in my opinion, this is one of the few can't miss picks, I think. And I know that the Giants recently came out with some news that they are going to be also hosting Shader Sanders in a private workout.
00:06:12
Fab
To me, this is just a lot of due diligence. To me, this is also, um i mean, they were always going to do a private workout with Shader Sanders. I don't think this is really news. I think just the fact that it's happening on a certain date is, it might be popping up on people's Twitter feeds.
00:06:26
Fab
But, I think it's that the moment that there was news that the Cleveland Browns were going to be going Travis Hunter now. Abdul Carter slid down to three.
00:06:37
Fab
You got to pick him. You got to pick him.
00:06:40
Roger Emeka
Blue chip prospect. That's everything I've been seeing on Twitter from these draft analysts.
00:06:42
Fab
100%. Yeah.
00:06:46
Roger Emeka
You don't pass up on blue chip prospects. I think to your point, it's due due diligence as a trade back into the first round scenario. And as a Giants fan, and don't know about you, Fab, but like i'm I'm very much warming up to this pick.
00:06:53
Fab
Yep.
00:06:58
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:06:59
Fab
So am I.
00:06:59
Roger Emeka
i was I'm very, very excited about it, especially considering Thibodeau has been, you know, he hasn't been an amazing, like he's been good. He's shown flashes, but I love this pick.
00:07:08
Fab
Yep.
00:07:11
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:07:11
Fab
No, he definitely hasn't lived up to the, I think it was fifth overall that we drafted him.
00:07:15
Nacc
Yeah, I thought he was going to be a lot better.
00:07:16
Fab
yeah has. Yeah. So have I, and and I know there's been a lot of conversation about going pick up his, his, his option year, his fifth year option on this contract. And now I just been hearing some rumbles. I don't know how accurate this is that,
00:07:27
Nacc
No, they likely don't pick up that option.
00:07:29
Fab
No, they don't, but I've also been hearing some conversations that it might even be traded on draft night. So you add all those things together, it just makes sense that Abdul Carter is the pick in green.
00:07:38
Nacc
Definitely becomes expendable if you're draft carder,
Jets, Panthers, Falcons: Strengthening Lines
00:07:41
Nacc
that's for sure.
00:07:41
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:07:42
Fab
Listen, he's going to be a rotational player. And don't get me wrong, I would love it. The Giants won two Super Bowls on the heels of having a top-end front four.
00:07:50
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Ajit.
00:07:52
Fab
So, I mean, the recipe is there and and you even saw it last year too. ah Well, recently, I guess this year in February when the Eagles won, I'm not saying we're as good as the Eagles, but you know, when you pressure the quarterback, it makes, ah makes a lot harder for the offense to do anything. Right.
00:08:05
Fab
So.
00:08:06
Roger Emeka
Love the pick.
00:08:08
Roger Emeka
At pick four, the Patriots are on the clock.
00:08:14
Nacc
a
00:08:17
Roger Emeka
This is a tough one.
00:08:17
Nacc
Shooter Sanders.
00:08:18
Roger Emeka
I'm going with Ariman Membu.
00:08:21
Roger Emeka
this yeah this is a tough one
00:08:25
Roger Emeka
i going with armon mebu offensive tackle from Missouri.
00:08:29
Fab
Ooh. Yep.
00:08:31
Roger Emeka
the consensus pick here is Will Campbell, but the under 33-inch arms concerns me.
00:08:34
Fab
yep
00:08:38
Roger Emeka
There's been some reports, and there's been statistics that show that offensive tackles at that arm length or shorter do not fare as well in the NFL. Membu, last year, 411 pass pro attempts, zero s sacks allowed.
00:08:52
Roger Emeka
I know he has a better propensity or a better... um he he he seems more geared towards being a right end. But a right tackle, excuse me, but there's been many players that have made the switch from right tackle to left tackle. Tristan Wirfs, Andrew Whitworth, Fuaga, all guys who've been at or near Pro Bowl level while making the switch.
00:09:12
Roger Emeka
And I just think Campbell is more acceded to being a guard with his makeup. And I just can't see myself taking a guard for the Patriots at four. Such a key position to be able to protect Drake May.
00:09:26
Roger Emeka
with everything that we've done in terms of the offense and the defense. So Armand Membu is the pick for me.
00:09:35
Fab
I like it. Yeah. Drake means going need protection. It's that simple. And then boo graded very, very, very well. This is, this is another blue chick prospect too. You can't go wrong with taking a tackle this high.
00:09:42
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Yeah. i'm I'll be curious to see if that actually happens in real life ah because there's been a lot of buzz that Membu might be the better prospect considering his size, but we'll we'll have to see.
00:09:56
Fab
Well, the zero sacks allowed on 411 pass protection snaps really jumps off the page. Right. And I think that's yes.
00:10:01
Roger Emeka
In the SEC, like it doesn't matter whether they're a left or right right tackle, like there's athletes everywhere.
00:10:06
Fab
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:09
Roger Emeka
Nak, you're on the clock with the Jaguars. Number five.
00:10:14
Nacc
Man, I was going back and forth with this, but um
00:10:20
Nacc
they need a lot of help on defense. They were twentieth in sacks last year. i Let's go Mason Graham out of Michigan.
00:10:35
Roger Emeka
Stud.
00:10:35
Nacc
Yeah.
00:10:35
Fab
I love this pick. I love this pick.
00:10:36
Roger Emeka
Stud.
00:10:37
Nacc
I think he's the top defensive lineman in the draft. A lot of guys, a lot of...
00:10:41
Fab
Yeah.
00:10:44
Nacc
ah Sorry, our teams liked this guy and brought him in for a visit. um The Patriots even could have taken ah guy like this, I feel, but they really needed to prioritize the um the O-line. But yeah, teams, I think Jacksonville is going to love this pick. They need to hit.
00:11:03
Nacc
um they've They've missed out on some on some top picks recently, and I think they get a stud here at number five for um many seasons to come.
00:11:17
Roger Emeka
Ashton, Ashton, Jenty, you know, you didn't want to, don't to Jenty for the, for the Jaguars considering.
00:11:21
Nacc
um Honestly, I thought about it.
00:11:23
Roger Emeka
you but you've been, you've been talking about Jenty.
00:11:23
Nacc
I thought about it because I i was the one who who brought it up.
00:11:24
Fab
you said You said that last episode.
00:11:25
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:28
Nacc
like I could see it. I'm just trying to go more logical here than than off the books. Look, two-time All-American, this guy, two-time Big Ten, national championship in 2024, bringing
Broncos & Steelers: Offensive Versatility
00:11:42
Nacc
in some some some quality guys with winning mentality in their lineup is going to be amazing.
00:11:51
Nacc
Yeah, I don't know, man. I i i i couldn't do it. i I just couldn't do it. and I know they have those two running backs already.
00:11:56
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:11:58
Nacc
and Yeah, they need and best player of everyone.
00:11:59
Roger Emeka
i no i agree with you when you have yeah
00:12:00
Fab
No, this was this was the pick. This was the pick based on best player available and need as well. Like the Jaguars need help on the defensive line. And and he was he is the top defensive line prospect right now.
00:12:08
Nacc
Exactly.
00:12:11
Fab
So i this is a smart pick on all accounts, my opinion.
00:12:16
Roger Emeka
Agreed. Fab at number six, Las Vegas Raiders on the clock.
00:12:21
Fab
Let's have a little fun in Vegas, boys. have a little fun in Vegas. We're going to go well, Runner-up, I suppose. But, yeah, you know, a lot of people should thought he should have won the Heisman Trophy.
00:12:32
Fab
Ashton Gentry, running back out of Boise State. There it is. There it is. ah The Raiders have their running back for the next decade.
00:12:42
Roger Emeka
Decade?
00:12:43
Fab
Yeah, full stop.
00:12:44
Nacc
Decades a long time for running back 10 years.
00:12:45
Fab
Full stop. Yeah.
00:12:48
Nacc
I don't know about 10 years.
00:12:48
Fab
Yeah, well, the why not?
00:12:50
Roger Emeka
yeah he's had a like He's had a decade's worth of snap of carries at Boise State.
00:12:50
Fab
Eight years. Eight years.
00:12:54
Fab
You know, when you said that last episode, might that can't be right. You know, and in in high school, he never played running back. He only played running back in college. So although he's had a lot of snaps in college, it's still a small sample size. The kid's fresh.
00:13:06
Roger Emeka
You're burying the lead. What did he play in high school?
00:13:09
Fab
Wide receiver.
00:13:12
Roger Emeka
Shit.
00:13:12
Nacc
Interesting.
00:13:13
Fab
Yeah, you play wide receiver.
00:13:14
Roger Emeka
I mean to swear, but man, that guy playing wide receiver.
00:13:17
Fab
Yeah, so I know the Raiders could use a wide receiver here, but the talent that's on the board right now,
00:13:17
Roger Emeka
Jeez.
00:13:24
Fab
for Ashton Gentry cannot be overlooked. The wide receiver class is very deep. You know, you can pick one up in the second round or even the third round
Chargers & Packers: Boosting Defense
00:13:31
Fab
or like some day two or day three guys and still be able to compliment Geno Smith and that offense.
00:13:37
Fab
At the same time, you know, there already is still Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers. And all they're really missing, in my opinion, is a stud-stud running back, which they got in Gentry. this is This is, for me, this was a very easy pick. He goes to a very good environment right now too. And you,
00:13:53
Fab
You figure with Pete Carroll, they're going to run the ball a lot, and they're going to need top-end running back to do that. And unfortunately, Mostert is not that guy anymore. So Ashton Gentry is going to be the lead dog. And even from a fantasy perspective, I think this is also going to be a fantastic pick, too. We said it a few weeks ago, depending on where he goes, he can be a top-ten running back in the league next year from a fantasy perspective.
00:14:13
Fab
I think this is one of those scenarios.
00:14:16
Roger Emeka
Yeah, and there was ah there was a Twitter post that our buddy Nick from ah Partial Breakaway, think he he tagged ah our our ah Twitter feed in how the Raiders might not have a good of enough of a run blocking scheme for Gentile.
00:14:30
Roger Emeka
They're middle the pack run blocking, according to PFF, 63.5, around the likes of the Chargers and the Cowboys and the Ravens even. So I think they'll have to show up the offensive line during in this draft.
00:14:44
Roger Emeka
um I think Jinty's the type of guy where he should be able to mask whatever a mediocre offensive line does.
00:14:52
Fab
Yeah, you saw what Saquon Barkley in his rookie season, right? And the Giants never really had an offensive line.
00:14:55
Roger Emeka
Exactly.
00:14:58
Fab
So... you have to assume the same thing is going to happen here. When talent is there, it's, you can't pass up on it and you figure out later on, i guess.
00:15:05
Nacc
This feels like a Jameer Gibbs, Bijan Robinson can't pass up at this point, especially when you have ah a need.
00:15:07
Roger Emeka
Yes. Yeah.
00:15:10
Fab
Yeah.
00:15:11
Nacc
like They weren't going into the season with Raheem Mostert as their RB1.
00:15:11
Fab
Yeah.
00:15:15
Nacc
That's just tragic, especially after you kind of...
00:15:15
Fab
No.
00:15:16
Roger Emeka
a
00:15:19
Nacc
I'm not so certain i'm like i'm not sold on Geno Smith being the answer, but at least you have someone competent back there, and you haven't in many,
00:15:24
Fab
Yep.
Browns, Rams, Lions: Final Picks & Trades
00:15:26
Nacc
many years.
00:15:26
Nacc
You have not had that you know safer bet QB. He's above average, I guess, QB in in the league. Yeah. Adding a genti is just going to help him out even more, especially with, you know, dump offs and stuff like that. Obviously QB's best friend, but.
00:15:41
Fab
And Gent, he averaged 11.1 yards after the catch, and he forced 41 missed tackles during his college career. So, yeah, he's going look great.
00:15:50
Nacc
He's going to look mean in that uniform, man.
00:15:52
Roger Emeka
It's going to so good, man. i I can't see him not being successful in the league, personally. um Jets, seventh pick in the first round. This is where i got I got to go Will Campbell.
00:16:03
Roger Emeka
ah He's there. He's available.
00:16:07
Roger Emeka
Consider Tyler Warren. Honestly, Tyler Warren, lot of buzz just from a position positional value standpoint, tight end seventh overall.
00:16:10
Nacc
There's been a lot of about that.
00:16:12
Fab
Yep.
00:16:18
Roger Emeka
If you look at his production, he's only had one really, really good year. The previous year, he was at 400-something yards, I think, receiving. And before that, it was very marginal marginal stats. So just couldn't pass up Will Campbell despite the potential issues with his arm length.
00:16:36
Roger Emeka
And the Jets were middle of the pack last year in PFF pass block rate. Olufoshanu hasn't lived up to the hype yet. ah So I think Campbell will be either a solid, very solid tackle or guard for the Jets for a very long time.
00:16:50
Roger Emeka
Nak, you are on the clock at number eight for the Carolina Panthers.
00:16:56
Nacc
Yeah, so I could have gone maybe high
Conclusion: Key Draft Strategies
00:16:59
Nacc
wide receiver here, making you know take a Tet McMillan, or should I say Tetroya McMillan. Even a Matthew Golden or something like that. I know that there've been like they they really want that number one guy, but I got to go defense here, man. I'm going to go with the Mikkel Williams out of Georgia, the edge.
00:17:20
Roger Emeka
Whoa. Did you?
00:17:21
Fab
Yeah.
00:17:22
Roger Emeka
I think.
00:17:22
Nacc
They allowed 534 points last year, 6,900 yards. That was second most in history. um Over 3,000 rushing yards, which is third most all time, and 35 passing TDs, which was league high. They need to get to the quarterback, and they need they need some kind of defense. So I'm going hard on the defense for Carolina in this draft.
00:17:48
Roger Emeka
i think
00:17:48
Fab
I agree with the defensive pick. I'm just, I'm just wondering, why didn't you go Shimmer Stewart or Jalen Walker who are like, yeah.
00:17:55
Roger Emeka
Jalen Walker was the one. i'm like, did you did you mess up on that? Did you submit to Goodell the wrong Georgia edge rush?
00:18:02
Nacc
No, I didn't. No, I like Mikael Williams a lot.
00:18:06
Roger Emeka
Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. i I like the defensive pick for the Panthers personally. I feel it would be very old regime for them to take a wide receiver where they have Thielen.
00:18:11
Fab
Yeah. Same. Same.
00:18:17
Roger Emeka
They have, let's see what you got out of Leggett. There's that Jalen Coker guy who I think a lot of people liked too last year.
00:18:22
Nacc
Yeah, he was pretty good.
00:18:23
Roger Emeka
It's pretty good, so I like this pick. um
00:18:28
Roger Emeka
Fab, the New Orleans Saints are on the clock at number nine.
00:18:35
Fab
Well, this is ah this is an interesting scenario for the Saints. ah I had put this pick in before the news that broke about Derek Carr, so I think this pick all becomes even more <unk> confirmed.
00:18:48
Fab
ah The New Orleans Saints are going to draft all the Colorado shooters. Why
00:18:53
Nacc
Boo! No,
00:18:55
Roger Emeka
What are you doing?
00:18:56
Fab
why are you booing? Because you wanted him at 21.
00:18:58
Nacc
no, no, no, no.
00:19:00
Fab
um News broke that Derek Carr might not play the 2025 season. um I don't think you can continue. I think they have to start looking at the future, quite frankly.
00:19:11
Fab
And I think now's the best time to do it. You're getting Shadir Sanders at nine. I think that's a very, very reasonable spot to get him. I know he hasn't necessarily been graded super high, but at the same time, i don't think you can pass up on the opportunity to, you know, to help out in that QB room and then make a QB competition for 2025. Because obviously they have Spencer Rattler, Ben DiNucci, Jake Hayner right now.
00:19:33
Fab
And then you add in Derek Carr, who might not play in 2025 at all, this a good opportunity to swing for the fences a little bit and go QB. Take Shudder Sanders, who has broken every single passing percentage record.
00:19:45
Fab
He throws the deep ball well. He has an anticipatory throw that we've all spoken about already.
00:19:50
Roger Emeka
Mm-hmm.
00:19:51
Fab
In my opinion, he's a lot better than what a lot of people are making him out to be. um he deserves to be a first-round pick in my books. And I think going to the Saints is a great opportunity for that too. We'll mesh in very well with Alvin Kamara, who, you know, is the GOAT when it comes to getting dump-off passes on the side, which is apparently Shudder Sanders' GOAT too.
00:20:07
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:20:10
Fab
um And obviously Chris Olavi too is going to be there, which would be a prime wide receiver form. So I think this is a great spot for him.
00:20:16
Nacc
That's funny, he's not in the infirmary.
00:20:18
Fab
Yeah.
00:20:18
Nacc
um I heard an interesting actually tidbit on McAfee today. is They don't go Shadur at 9. They start Rattler and potentially get the number 1 overall pick next year and get Archie.
00:20:32
Nacc
Just like...
00:20:34
Fab
Can I just, it's not, Archie is not even, so he's not even, it's not even a guarantee that he's going to go into the draft next year.
00:20:35
Roger Emeka
they're not bad enough yeah
00:20:37
Nacc
Hmm...
00:20:43
Fab
A lot of people are talking about how let's tank this year and then get Arch.
00:20:45
Nacc
He's going into the draft next year.
00:20:47
Fab
It's not even guaranteed.
00:20:48
Fab
It's even guaranteed.
00:20:48
Nacc
He's 100% going into the draft next year.
00:20:52
Fab
After one year in college,
00:20:53
Nacc
I would understand this is going second year in college.
00:20:56
Fab
one year where he starts the whole season, well, it matters a little bit.
00:20:56
Nacc
um Yeah, okay. It doesn't matter. but Well, it depends what his what his n NIL money is. I know this year he's making like $6 million. dollars like If he's offered Pence,
00:21:05
Fab
Yeah, so you think he's going to make less next year?
00:21:08
Nacc
um and and and
00:21:08
Fab
He's going to make more. He's going to make more nil.
00:21:09
Nacc
yeah, but he's going to make over $25 or $30 million to going in the NFL in the first round.
00:21:14
Roger Emeka
yeah Yeah, for sure. Guys, I don't think he's i don't think he's going first overall after 13 starts, man.
00:21:16
Nacc
He's going to make a lot more. Well,
00:21:24
Roger Emeka
that is I don't have it in front of me, but the hit rate of guys trying to get drafted, even in the first round or any round of only 14 starts is, I don't know, I don't see that happening.
00:21:29
Fab
Yeah.
00:21:36
Nacc
but how many did you started last year? I know it's obviously not a lot.
00:21:38
Fab
Like Trey Lance and Anthony Richardson just look at those guys
00:21:38
Roger Emeka
Two or three.
00:21:38
Nacc
He started with two or three.
00:21:40
Roger Emeka
Exactly. um think that's an interesting tidbit. Someone that I know, I don't want to say it, but he said that um he would have just he would just stick to Rattler, that Shador is as a fourth-round QB.
00:21:57
Roger Emeka
And he thinks Rattler is a better prospect.
00:22:01
Fab
I Might have an idea as who you're talking about
00:22:02
Roger Emeka
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. um
00:22:05
Nacc
Look, obviously, it's going to go who knows, but I don't know. If you don't really if you don't love him, i why want why not stick with Rattler?
00:22:17
Roger Emeka
He was talented, man. A lot of people liked him in the pre-draft process.
00:22:19
Fab
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:19
Roger Emeka
like
00:22:19
Nacc
I liked Rattler.
00:22:20
Roger Emeka
we laser arm Laser arm, tons of moxie.
00:22:21
Fab
yeah
00:22:21
Nacc
I liked Rattler.
00:22:23
Roger Emeka
anyway We're going to have a ah lot of time to dissect this pick if it does happen.
00:22:24
Nacc
But like if
00:22:27
Roger Emeka
I think, though, this is It's not a guarantee this is the line in the sand for when the real draft draft happens for Shudder Sanders. I think this is going to be the most polarizing ah name. um One of the most polarizing names during the draft next week. Can't wait.
00:22:42
Roger Emeka
Pick 10, Chicago Bears. This is easy.
00:22:49
Roger Emeka
could have Could have went Tyler Warren as well, but we have Cole Komet. I can't pass up on Jalon Walker. Can play edge or linebacker. Top five player in many big boards.
00:23:01
Roger Emeka
um Athletic freak. A lot of people saying he gives Roquan Smith vibes where he could play literally anywhere on the kind of top part of the defense, whether the weather on the D-line edge or even at linebacker. So really easy pick for me. This is clear best player available.
00:23:18
Fab
hundred so
00:23:18
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Fab 11. Oh, sorry. NAC 11 pick San Francisco 49ers.
00:23:26
Nacc
Yeah, Francisco 49ers.
00:23:26
Roger Emeka
You're on the clock.
00:23:28
Nacc
um not as Not a sexy pick for the 49ers, but they definitely need help on the um the O-line, especially on the right-hand side. So I'm going to go Josh Simmons, Ohio State.
00:23:45
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:23:45
Nacc
Yeah, again, not like not the not a a sexy name in in in in the least, but they need help.
00:23:45
Roger Emeka
i mean, you,
00:23:45
Fab
Yeah. But
00:23:51
Fab
offensive linemen are never sexy picks, though. And they're such a necessity. So, thats yeah, this is...
00:23:56
Nacc
Yeah, they just need help in the in the trenches. And I don't know, this guy, feel, to me, fits the bill um for the 49ers. They're about to pay Brock Purdy, right, all this money. You are going to need to keep him upright.
00:24:10
Roger Emeka
Yeah, this is pretty much consensus third in big board offensive tackle. So he'd probably play right tackle for a bit and then eventually move to left tackle when Trent Williams retires, which will happen soon.
00:24:18
Fab
Well,
00:24:19
Nacc
Maybe switch, yeah. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:24:25
Roger Emeka
Fab, Dallas Cowboys at 12. You are on the clock.
00:24:30
Fab
but we've been saying this for a while now that CeeDee Lamb needs his the Robin to his Batman. So the Dallas Cowboys are selecting out of Arizona that the Roya McMillan, the best wide receiver, pure wide receiver prospect. I'm only saying that because we got We've got Travis Hunter there who plays every single position known to man.
00:24:49
Fab
um But a pure wide receiver prospect.
00:24:51
Nacc
Just to...
00:24:52
Fab
Yeah, just two. Yeah, I mean, he's he's a stud, man. I mean, he's a prototypical wide receiver, which one is as an X. I think this can also move Lamb into the slot a little bit where he did play a little bit and did have some success as well.
00:25:06
Fab
McMillan is a run after the catch threat. 29 forced tackles in 2024. ah First team All-American, first team All-Big 12, first team led Big 12 in receptions and receiving yards, sorry. ah Yeah, I mean, this is exactly what the Cowboys have needed. They needed that second wide receiver, and you can see the the experiments that existed haven't really worked out all that well. So I think this is i think this is going to be the
00:25:31
Roger Emeka
I don't like it. i don't I don't like Tett Macmillan with… but the Just the the…
00:25:37
Nacc
Yeah, you're not a big Macmillan fan.
00:25:38
Roger Emeka
No, it's not even that. It's just… It's too… Like body type wise, speed wise, it's too similar to CeeDee Lamb. If I was going to go wide receiver, this is where I would have… Matthew Golden might be too high, but I would maybe would have traded down just because he has the juice to match with what CeeDee Lamb does.
00:25:54
Roger Emeka
that's the only That's the only concern I have with this.
00:25:56
Fab
yep
00:25:57
Roger Emeka
ah I've come around to McMillan reading a bit more since our since we talked about the wide receivers last week. um You didn't think right running back, Fab?
00:26:07
Fab
I didn't think running back just because Gentry was off the board and I thought O'Mara Hampton is a little bit too high over here. And i and again, there is a lot of value at running back and that you can get in day two. I thought about like,
00:26:21
Fab
I get what you're saying. they You can see how they're similar and so in in stature and and the and and the way that they play. I think it won't really matter, though. I think is that they can use CeeDee Lyme across the field, to be honest with you.
00:26:31
Fab
I think it might pigeonhole McMillan a little bit more than it would to CeeDee Lyme.
00:26:32
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:26:37
Fab
He's still going to eat.
00:26:37
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:26:38
Fab
He's still going get all of those receptions and all of those yards and all those touchdowns and all that stuff. It's not going to make a big difference, in my opinion. And it's just in that that another weapon for Dak in that offense.
00:26:49
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Look, wide receiver running back, those must be one of the two picks, one of the picks for for the Cowboys.
00:26:53
Fab
Yeah.
00:26:54
Roger Emeka
Like, it's a must.
00:26:55
Fab
like If Gentry was there, I can see being Gentry.
00:26:55
Roger Emeka
It's not so much. Yeah.
00:26:57
Fab
That's why when I was, it was funny because we just randomly decided who was picking who and I got the Raiders and I got the Cowboys and I'm like, well, I can switch out either one of these two and it would still make sense. Like have McMillian go to the Raiders and then have Gentry fall all the way to the Cowboys.
00:27:11
Fab
But I don't think Gentry falls.
00:27:12
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:27:12
Nacc
I don't know if we would have got past the Bears.
00:27:14
Fab
Now that's exactly it.
00:27:14
Roger Emeka
Nope.
00:27:15
Fab
I don't think he would have fallen to the Cowboys, so.
00:27:15
Roger Emeka
No chance. No way. No way. At pick 13 for the Miami Dolphins, Guido's Miami Dolphins, I am going safety Malachi Starks out of Georgia, replacement for Javon Holland.
00:27:30
Roger Emeka
Really solid in space and coverage. i think he's an immediate starter. I think safety will be the pick for the for the Dolphins. TBD, if it's Starks or Nick MN Worry.
00:27:40
Fab
Yeah.
00:27:40
Roger Emeka
I like Starks a little bit more just because he seems like a better fit in coverage. I mean, Warry seems like more of a box safety. um So that was the pick for me.
00:27:49
Fab
Yeah, that was going to my only question because I know those two are very closely ranked and some some people have Imanori a little bit higher than Starks, but I mean, yeah.
00:27:52
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:27:56
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:27:56
Nacc
i like I like this pick.
00:27:59
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:27:59
Nacc
They're definitely going to need definitely gonna need someone back there.
00:28:02
Fab
hundred percent
00:28:03
Roger Emeka
Yeah, honestly, I thought wide receiver too ah with the stuff with Tyreek Hill. I mean, QB as well could be interesting for the Dolphins, but I think they they really need to shore up the safety position.
00:28:13
Roger Emeka
Knack at 14, pick 14, first round, Indianapolis Colts. You're the clock.
00:28:19
Nacc
Yeah, I'm going to select my boy out of Penn State, Mr. Tyler Warren. Tight end. i think there's been a tight end lacking and missing in that offense for for for many, many years. This guy is a big boy, 261 pounds. So he's going to be a huge target, especially in the red zone.
00:28:43
Nacc
um And if you look at his stats in 2024, 104 receptions, 1,200 yards, eight touchdowns, and four rushing touchdowns.
00:28:50
Nacc
eight touchdowns and four rushing touchdowns um I think they are starved for for talent at the tight end position. And, um you know, Daniel Jones or AR or both get a shiny new new toy to throw to.
00:29:01
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:29:05
Fab
Yep.
00:29:06
Roger Emeka
They invested a ton on the defense in the agency, ton in secondary.
00:29:08
Fab
yep
00:29:08
Nacc
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:11
Roger Emeka
They have the wide receivers. I like Josh Downs a lot. and I think Michael Pitten's pretty solid too. like To me, this is a... If he actually... lasts until 14. What a pick.
00:29:23
Nacc
Yeah.
00:29:23
Roger Emeka
um But I think it's the right move, Knack. Perfect call. um Fab, Atlanta Falcons.
00:29:31
Fab
Yeah, we're going defense here. We're going to pick edge rusher linebacker Shimmer Stewart out of Texas A&M. This fits a huge gap for defense for the Falcons, who I feel like haven't had a big pass rusher since like Vic Beasley.
00:29:45
Roger Emeka
yep
00:29:45
Fab
So this is this makes a lot of sense. He's a bit raw from a prospect, but he's a game wrecker too. He plays really good against the pass and against the run. So obviously he can be moved across pretty much across the both sides of the line.
00:29:58
Fab
um he earned and very good rating of 88.2 on ah PFF run defense rate, defense grade in 2024. So I think this this, this, this is also like, I think one of the best projects prospects still available in the draft and Falcons get a need and fill it at 15. I think this is a good pick for them.
00:30:21
Roger Emeka
Yeah, Shamar Stewart in Dane Brugler's Beast, he was consensus third third best edge rusher. So definitely a good value pick on that front, Fab.
00:30:28
Fab
Yeah.
00:30:33
Roger Emeka
I have pick 16 with the Arizona Cardinals. this was This was definitely tough. Cardinals need edge help, but they signed Josh Sweat from the from the Eagles.
00:30:44
Roger Emeka
And he even thought of some D-line help here. But going go with Will Johnson. This was one of the more mediocre pass defenses from a cornerback perspective. murphy Sean Murphy Bunting, among others, was very weak from a PFF coverage perspective.
00:31:00
Roger Emeka
Will Johnson was at one point a top five prospect early on during the college football season. Drops a little bit as other positions have gotten more value, but um he played a ton of zone at Michigan.
00:31:13
Roger Emeka
And the Cardinals ran the third most amount of zone in 2024. I think this is going to be a great pick. And they finally get a cornerback who could be a mainstay. ah Last time they had that was Patrick Peterson.
00:31:22
Fab
Yeah.
00:31:26
Roger Emeka
Knack at your 17 Cincinnati Bengals. Try not to fudge this pick up too much for them.
00:31:34
Nacc
No, I'm not going to pick a punter here. Don't worry. um They need a lot of help on the defense. that is not That's obviously something that's well well documented.
00:31:46
Nacc
And I think they need a stud. And with the uncertainty as well with Trey Hendrickson, whose shoes are going to be hard to fill, I think this guy here is going to help and fit the bill.
00:31:57
Fab
you
00:31:57
Nacc
I'm selecting Derek Harmon out of Oregon defensive end. This guy, six five three ten had a really, really solid season for Oregon last year.
00:32:05
Roger Emeka
Oof.
00:32:08
Nacc
Obviously, Oregon did ah did insane until they got to the but playoffs. But five sacks, 10 QB hurries, two forced fumbles. He had also a 17.6% pass rush rate, insane.
00:32:23
Nacc
which is yeah which is actually insane um size, strength, and agility. can be versatile. so He can play all throughout the um the defensive line. so In my opinion, I think it's a no-brainer pick for the
00:32:40
Roger Emeka
Fireball offense if they were to go anything but defense.
00:32:44
Nacc
like
00:32:44
Fab
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:44
Roger Emeka
Fireball offense.
00:32:44
Fab
Yeah.
00:32:45
Nacc
like I feel like they should fire the GM and not let him make any more picks in this actual draft if they if they if they do that.
00:32:45
Fab
yeah
00:32:49
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:32:52
Fab
yeah
00:32:53
Roger Emeka
I love that pick. And Harmon was an absolute beast. And yeah, I think that much of a pass rush win rate from a kind of defensive tackle position is very strong. um Fab, 18th pick. We have the Seattle Seahawks that are on the clock.
00:33:09
Fab
Yeah, not really a super sexy pick, but he has the best guard in the draft, and this is exactly what the Seahawks need to shore up the offensive line and start protecting their new shiny toy in Sam Darnold. This is Tyler Booker out of Alabama.
00:33:23
Fab
ah Tyler Booker played most of his snaps at Levitard.
00:33:26
Nacc
What do I have to do to get a freaking jingle?
00:33:29
Roger Emeka
We just hadn't played it in while.
00:33:29
Fab
if like
00:33:30
Roger Emeka
Oh my
00:33:32
Fab
Appreciate it I feel like every time I i pick you...
00:33:33
Nacc
Sorry, Fab. I know it's
00:33:35
Fab
yeah You paid. I appreciate that. ah that's That's perfect. It's great.
00:33:38
Nacc
Thanks, Raj.
00:33:38
Fab
I'm not to, not going all my picks are good picks is what it means. um
00:33:42
Nacc
Raj is being racist tonight.
00:33:42
Fab
Yeah.
00:33:45
Fab
How is he being racist?
00:33:47
Nacc
and That was the joke. Okay, keep going.
00:33:48
Fab
We're both white. Yeah.
00:33:48
Roger Emeka
ah
00:33:50
Fab
Yeah, Booker's built like a bull, accordingly, to a lot of his prospectives. Yeah, this is this fits a need. This fits a need, and he's also the best guard in the draft right now. He's the first guard to go as well.
00:34:02
Fab
He made first-team All-American, first-team All-SEC, team captain for Alabama. So he had the leadership qualities to go with the with the potential and the and the production to boot, right? So I think this is an easy, easy pick on two.
00:34:17
Roger Emeka
It's like the the last like four or five picks are pure need picks, but also these are almost like the best players available, which is this draft is way better than what people think.
00:34:27
Roger Emeka
And just because the draft doesn't have the high-end QB or you know the high-end wide receivers doesn't mean it's a good draft.
00:34:28
Fab
Yeah.
00:34:33
Roger Emeka
like It's a trenches, edge, offensive tackle, laden draft.
00:34:38
Fab
Yeah, I was going to say four edges of one of the first 18 picks, right? I mean, and there's more to come.
00:34:43
Roger Emeka
Yeah, totally. Totally. At pick number 19 of the first round, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So we're going to go with a linebacker here. Usually you don't draft a linebacker this high from a positional value standpoint, not always the the highest.
00:35:02
Fab
The guy's good.
00:35:02
Roger Emeka
But Jihad Campbell out of Bama.
00:35:05
Roger Emeka
Saw a lot of comparisons to Derek Brooks.
00:35:06
Fab
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:35:08
Roger Emeka
To me, it's an absolute, there's a need there.
00:35:09
Fab
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:10
Roger Emeka
And it's, you know, considering everything is still a BPA, a best player available. So I think Jahad Campbell can cover like hell, could potentially rush the passer a little bit, can tackle.
00:35:22
Roger Emeka
um And with Levante David being, you know, very near retirement, you know, he resigned for one year. This could be a great pick in terms of pairing them two together. And then he being the heir apparent to that linebacker crew.
00:35:37
Fab
I like this a lot. I like this a Actually, thought you were going to go wide receiver over here, but yeah, this is, Jihakam was a great prospect.
00:35:40
Nacc
Much needed.
00:35:44
Fab
I know linebacker isn't really, I feel like it's not really emphasized nowadays in defenses, right?
00:35:44
Nacc
Much needed.
00:35:51
Fab
Especially like proper linebackers, like true, true linebackers. You don't really see them as much as they used to, like the Luke Kiklis of the world and all that stuff, but this is a great pick.
00:35:58
Roger Emeka
Well, most teams play two linebackers now. a lot Like, there's a few teams play the three or, my God, even four linebackers.
00:36:00
Fab
Exactly, right?
00:36:03
Roger Emeka
So, dealer yeah, they're like three, four, like like two middle linebackers.
00:36:04
Nacc
Steelers play four.
00:36:07
Nacc
The 3-4 defense.
00:36:11
Roger Emeka
um We're going to go Fab again. ah Fab pick 20 for the Denver Broncos. You're on the clock.
00:36:18
Fab
He's coming home, ladies and gentlemen. Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden out of Texas. home Hometown from Houston, Texas.
00:36:23
Nacc
Why are you yelling?
00:36:25
Fab
I'm excited for this pick. I'm excited. Matthew Golden is being drafted by the Denver Broncos.
00:36:29
Roger Emeka
Explain yourself. Explain yourself. Yes.
00:36:31
Fab
Explain myself. Bo Nix needs better wide receivers. Period. They already shored up the entire defense. They did a lot of work on the defense and on the offense. um They can use Matthew Golden to...
00:36:47
Fab
I don't see how they don't go wide receiver here, quite frankly. I really, really don't. I think this is a perfect marriage for what they have right now. And then you pair the fact that both Knicks rookie still learning everything.
00:36:58
Fab
Now you put them all together. I see a lot of Jamar chase and Joe Burrow vibes here. I'm not saying they're going to be those two. I'm just saying how, you know, you bring up a very young quarterback and a very young wide receiver together.
00:37:10
Fab
And Matthew golden is arguably the second best wide receiver in this draft. I say second. I'm, not counting Travis Hunter. So I think this is going to be an excellent, excellent pair to Cortland Sutton.
00:37:23
Fab
And also it's going to give a lot more space for Evan Ingram as well. think this is a great pick.
00:37:31
Fab
You guys don't seem convinced and that's fine.
00:37:32
Nacc
kind of a
00:37:32
Roger Emeka
I don't know. what's it
00:37:33
Nacc
Kind of head-scratcher to me.
00:37:34
Roger Emeka
Go ahead, Nack. Go ahead, Nack.
00:37:35
Nacc
I don't know. i'm just Was it really their highest position of need? Was the running bad did the wide receiver? excuse me I feel like um Marion Hampton would have been a nice pick here for the Broncos.
00:37:49
Roger Emeka
Yes.
00:37:49
Fab
I debated that. I debated that. Yeah, I did. I debated that. That was, I was stuck on.
00:37:53
Nacc
Now you're leaning you're leaning more towards the 20th where it's like it's a little bit more acceptable to use that kind of draft capital, I guess you want to say, for like a running back who's not like Gentry.
00:37:59
Fab
Yeah.
00:37:59
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:38:04
Nacc
I don't know. It could be a good pick. I feel like I just don't feel, i don't know. I don't know if they and don't know if wide receiver is really the position of huge need or you can't address it later, I'm saying.
00:38:18
Roger Emeka
I think your only saving grace is the fact that it's such a running back heavy draft, which you could get a really good talent in the later rounds.
00:38:25
Nacc
Uh.
00:38:26
Fab
Which again goes into my thought process because if Matthew Golden wasn't there, I would be debating between Omero Hampton and Emeka Ibuka.
00:38:28
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:38:36
Roger Emeka
Rebecca
00:38:38
Nacc
who is who is that player
00:38:39
Roger Emeka
and Mooka are so good.
00:38:41
Fab
And makeca abuer excuse me and there and if that was a scenario, I would be taking Omero Hampton for sure. Matthew Golden still being there at 20, know what? No, let's just let's go BPA, and he's definitely BPA in my opinion, especially from an offensive standpoint.
00:38:58
Roger Emeka
I could see, you know what? I could see it happening. um Knack, your Pittsburgh Steelers at 21. We did not jimmy it so that Knack has the Steelers, ladies and gentlemen. Just somehow, someway.
00:39:13
Nacc
Somehow, someway.
00:39:14
Roger Emeka
Somehow, someway.
00:39:16
Nacc
i went back and forth with this pick. um Seeing that Harmon had gone to the Bengals that took out that pick, um that would have been my Steelers pick for sure.
00:39:27
Nacc
And I keep going back and forth with QB and wide receiver.
00:39:32
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:39:33
Nacc
They haven't picked a wide receiver in the first round since 2006. And I think this is the year that bucks the trend. The Steelers that select Emeka Egbuka, Ohio State wide receiver.
00:39:49
Nacc
so many reasons. Pickens' future is in doubt at the moment. um They did pay DK Metcalf $30 million. dollars I'm not sure they're ready to pay Pickens on a long-term deal.
00:40:01
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:40:02
Nacc
And so he's probably on a lame duck contract, if not potentially traded later on in this draft. That's where his value would probably be at the highest. But from what I'm hearing, they probably want to keep him.
00:40:16
Nacc
So regardless if Pickens stays or goes in this draft, I don't think he signs long-term deals. So they're going to need someone opposite DK Metcalf. And this guy, I feel, ticks off all the boxes.
00:40:28
Nacc
Pivotal role in Ohio State's national championship winning season. he um He had 81 receptions for 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. That's two years in a row that he had 10 touchdowns with ah with Ohio State.
00:40:43
Nacc
I think his reliability and versatility on the field is what's going to really show like get him on the field earlier. And he also returned return some kickoffs and punts last year too, which could get him onto the field as well early on in his career. But I think that the Steelers need to load up. It's been really bleak at that position the last few years, and um having a few studs there is definitely not going to hurt.
00:41:07
Nacc
So that's my pick.
00:41:11
Roger Emeka
Wouldn't have necessarily picked them, but picked a wide receiver at that spot, but I have definitely get the argument. And I've told you, Nak, I don't think Pickens and Metcalf makes sense. It feels like there's a redundancy there.
00:41:25
Roger Emeka
So whether it's he's traded this year or or next year, or maybe he's traded at the draft next week, um I could see myself falling in love with this pick because he's a very good player.
00:41:25
Fab
yeah
00:41:36
Roger Emeka
I picked one.
00:41:36
Fab
I'm surprised. I'm sorry.
00:41:37
Roger Emeka
Yeah, go ahead. My fab.
00:41:38
Fab
I'm surprised it was the court like dart wasn't the pick there.
00:41:42
Nacc
I went back and forth, ah decided on the on the wide receiver instead of the QB, potentially looking at next year's draft to grab grab another one.
00:41:59
Roger Emeka
At pick 22, have the Los Angeles Chargers, and i am going to go, i mean this is an easy pick, tight end, Colstlin Loveland reunited with Jim Harbaugh.
00:42:08
Fab
Yeah.
00:42:14
Roger Emeka
So Loveland, I think what's different about him than Tyler Warren, just a bit more of a fluid athlete, I don't think he's going to be as good of a blocker. His overall stats, he's never topped 600 passing yards, ah receiving yards, excuse me.
00:42:27
Roger Emeka
But Michigan has always been known as a very run heavy ball control team. So I think this is a, however, a very nice pick for Justin Herbert. You add him alongside Ladd McConkie.
00:42:40
Roger Emeka
Let's see what happens with Quinton Johnston. Obviously, um mike Mike Williams is back. So because of that, I didn't feel like Matthew Golden would have made sense here. He would have been kind of fourth in the depth chart.
00:42:53
Roger Emeka
So going still a position of need. And Fab, the Will Disley experiment is over.
00:43:00
Fab
Oh, 100%. I love this pick.
00:43:01
Roger Emeka
It's over.
00:43:02
Fab
I'm so happy with this pick. you have no idea.
00:43:04
Roger Emeka
It's over. Absolute baller. So I like Colston Loveland.
00:43:07
Fab
Yeah, I like him a lot.
00:43:07
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Knack, pick 23 Green Bay Packers who you got.
00:43:14
Nacc
Yes. So ji Jair Alexander has been um very injury prone and hurt lately. And I'm not sure how much he's got left, if anything, in the tank. So I'm going to go ahead and pick up one of the top Q, um, cornerbacks in the draft, Mr. Benjamin Morrison out of Notre Dame had a fantastic season. And it's funny because his NFL comp are Jair Alexander and Stefan Gilmore for his agility and, and coverage skills and, um, also technique and ball Hawk, uh, Hawking ability.
00:43:53
Nacc
So I think it's definitely a position of need for the Packers. um Could they have gone another wide receiver here to try to figure out that room? I think that's just too rich for my blood.
00:44:03
Nacc
I think they need really need help on the
00:44:06
Roger Emeka
They've never taken a wide receiver in the first round, I believe.
00:44:08
Nacc
in the first.
00:44:08
Fab
No. Yeah.
00:44:08
Nacc
they don't take they don't take They don't take offense in the first round.
00:44:09
Roger Emeka
They don't take... They don't take...
00:44:12
Nacc
It's very, it's very very very very rare, and i think I think the trend continues, but they get a dog in in in Benjamin Morrison.
00:44:12
Roger Emeka
Yep. they don't take
00:44:13
Fab
yeah
00:44:22
Nacc
Great year last year, too.
00:44:23
Roger Emeka
Amazing Notre Dame defense. Notre Dame is going to be ah seen a lot in this draft.
00:44:25
Nacc
Yeah.
00:44:28
Roger Emeka
They had a really good defensive year. Thank you, Nak. At pick 24 for the Minnesota of Vikings, Fab, you are on the clock.
00:44:38
Fab
ah Yeah, so we are taking Mr. Nick Imanwari out of South Carolina safety. ah Once again, it's...
00:44:47
Roger Emeka
I'm only playing the chime because you you got the name bang on.
00:44:51
Fab
Well, I want to thank the people from The Athletic who allow me to phonetically correct and pronounce all the player names. So it's very convenient. um Again, this this goes back to fitting a need and also being best player available. I know in that Raj, we had that conversation about Malachi Starks and and I'm in worry being Mark, uh, created very similarly, Minnesota have a bit of a need at safety right now.
00:45:14
Roger Emeka
yes
00:45:14
Fab
Um, so I think this is a perfect pairing and this guy's gonna be a day one starter from the jump, um, size, speed, mindset, everything. Honestly, he projects near more the line of scrimmage, but at the same time he can, he can play pretty much, uh, everywhere in the secondary too.
00:45:30
Fab
I think last year you had six past breakups and the year before he had 10. So he's a, he's a ball hawker. And, um, great Great leader as well. He was team captain for a while too. He was team captain on ah for South Carolina. So I think this is an excellent pick for the Vikings.
00:45:47
Roger Emeka
You touched on it. They have a need. They lost Cam Bynum to the Colts.
00:45:50
Fab
Yep.
00:45:52
Roger Emeka
Harrison Smith is close to 35 years old. So it's an absolute must need.
00:45:54
Fab
Yeah.
00:45:59
Roger Emeka
At pick 25, we trade to
00:45:59
Fab
Yeah. No, I was going to say, it falls to them perfectly exactly for what you said, right? i I mean, this exactly what they're looking for.
00:46:08
Roger Emeka
at pick twenty five we have a trade to announce.
00:46:15
Roger Emeka
The Cleveland Browns are on the clock from the Texans.
00:46:19
Nacc
Whoa. dun, dun.
00:46:23
Fab
How did that happen?
00:46:23
Roger Emeka
I'm going to play it again. Still good. um
00:46:30
Fab
Wait, do we boo you when you come back up? No, boo. No.
00:46:34
Roger Emeka
So the pick here is, so it's um last week we saw that Joe Flacco was signed to the Browns again. So they have a QB room of Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco.
00:46:48
Roger Emeka
So if we all recall, Joe Flacco was the Ravens QB for such a long time. He brought them to Super Bowl and then they brought in a young lad called, named Lamar Jackson.
00:47:00
Roger Emeka
Flacco backed him up. Flacco also saw that Jackson had the same type of skill set as one Jalen Milrow, who will be the pick here.
00:47:11
Roger Emeka
And Jalen Milrow was very much Jalen Milrow and Lamar Jackson were, were both quarterbacks considered projects who should have been wide receivers instead.
00:47:13
Nacc
oh
00:47:15
Fab
what what
00:47:22
Nacc
Jalen Mill roll.
00:47:22
Roger Emeka
So. With the 25th pick, we were picking Jalen Milrow.
00:47:24
Fab
what
00:47:24
Nacc
Here we go.
00:47:27
Roger Emeka
I went with this route because of a lot of the buzz that's happened with Milrow and the Browns. He was invited to some private workouts with them, I believe, ah last a few weeks ago. And I just feel if you're going to go for a QB, you're going to take a little bit of a swing.
00:47:45
Roger Emeka
Milrow has more upside. Dart is a better QB, but Milrow will have the luxury of sitting down at least a year, two years, learning how to play the quarterback position, getting accurate.
00:47:59
Roger Emeka
And what better system or coach to learn from than Kevin Stefanski?
00:48:05
Fab
Are the Cleveland Browns playing the QB game the right way? What's going on over here? drafting acut and Trading back into the first round, drafting a QB to sit behind a veteran for a year?
00:48:19
Fab
What?
00:48:21
Roger Emeka
Knack thinks that veteran will be...
00:48:21
Nacc
They're going to find a way to mess it up.
00:48:24
Roger Emeka
Knack thinks the veteran will be Kenny Pickett.
00:48:24
Fab
Most likely.
00:48:27
Nacc
The starter?
00:48:28
Roger Emeka
weren't you saying you think it's going Pickett? Who's going to start?
00:48:31
Nacc
You think Flacco starts over him? Flacco didn't look good last year.
00:48:35
Roger Emeka
It's Kenny.
00:48:35
Nacc
I mean, I guess neither did Pickett, for real.
00:48:36
Roger Emeka
Kenny. Kenny. You can pick it, man.
00:48:37
Fab
I mean, yeah, I mean, we're...
00:48:38
Roger Emeka
The one time... That's true.
00:48:39
Nacc
Honestly, flip a coin and who's going to start. like I feel whoever wins at camp, I guess.
00:48:41
Fab
Guys...
00:48:43
Nacc
I don't know.
00:48:44
Fab
Guys, we can't have the debate about who's going to start for the Browns between Flacco and Pickett. We're going to all of our viewers, all of our listeners.
00:48:50
Nacc
Yeah, I say we move on.
00:48:51
Roger Emeka
but Good point. At 26, we have the LA Rams. Nak, you're on the clock.
00:48:58
Nacc
Yes, so going back and forth a little bit on this pick
00:49:03
Nacc
They struggled. Rams struggled against pass defense, and guess against elite wideouts, and especially in-man coverage. So I think I'm going to go with... the
00:49:19
Roger Emeka
and we're
00:49:21
Nacc
Azaria Thomas, a cornerback, Florida State.
00:49:28
Nacc
He's praised actually for being ah really, really lanky and disfluidly and physicality make him very effective in ah press coverage. So this is something that it was definitely lacking with the Rams cornerbacks last year.
00:49:43
Nacc
pretty good Pretty good college career, 118 total tackles, two interceptions, 15 pass breakups and a forced fumble. um he's compared to Joey Porter Jr. actually in terms of the physicality and potential to be a quality starter, especially on you know from day one. So I think he tracks to be a really reliable cornerback and definitely something something the Rams are are looking for on the back end.
00:50:16
Roger Emeka
I feel like the Rams either make this move, which I like, take Dart, or they say F them picks and trade and go back to trading down again. Or trading and trading.
00:50:26
Nacc
Okay, so you think they take the quarterback or trade down?
00:50:28
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:50:31
Roger Emeka
But I like this pick a lot.
00:50:31
Nacc
Yep.
00:50:32
Fab
I like that this pick makes sense to me.
00:50:32
Roger Emeka
of Yeah, i mean it it does make sense.
00:50:34
Fab
They need quarterback help.
00:50:35
Roger Emeka
It does make sense, for sure.
00:50:35
Fab
Yeah.
00:50:37
Roger Emeka
they're They're taking a quarterback either way at some point in this draft because on a two-year, three-year run, Max.
00:50:40
Nacc
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:50:40
Fab
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:41
Nacc
For sure. For sure.
00:50:43
Roger Emeka
ah Fab, pick 27. The Baltimore Ravens are on the clock.
00:50:47
Fab
Yeah, pick 27 Baltimore Ravens out of Texas. the Offensive lineman Kelvin Banks Jr. So this is a bit of a ah long-term and immediate need, actually.
00:50:58
Fab
So come benjamin excuse me Kelvin Banks Jr., I apologize.
00:50:59
Nacc
Thank you.
00:51:03
Roger Emeka
Mm-hmm.
00:51:03
Fab
ah He plays the majority of his career at left tackle, but he's actually projected to start at guard in the NFL ah when he gets drafted. The idea is that he has a protocol prototypical build as a guard, which fits perfectly the need for Baltimore, who had horrible guard play.
00:51:17
Fab
last year. At the same time, their left tackle Stanley is getting a little bit long on the tooth. Uh, so the idea is that this will turn into a guard, turn into a left tackle in about three to five years down the line.
00:51:31
Fab
Um, so that he's, he's exceptionally ranked. He is the second ranked, um, offensive lineman on within the 2025 draft.
00:51:42
Fab
Again, first team, all American Lombardi award, first team, all sec. ah This kid has it all. And another one, another day one starter. That's going to give out of protection to Lamar Jackson.
00:51:53
Fab
And the so more holes for Derek Henry to run through and push for another 2000 yards next year.
00:52:00
Roger Emeka
Swing tackle. Apparently he could play at swing offensive lineman who could play at tackle as well at some point.
00:52:05
Fab
Yes.
00:52:06
Roger Emeka
So Ravens love that versatility.
00:52:06
Fab
Yeah.
00:52:10
Roger Emeka
At to pick 28, Detroit Lions, I'm going with an edge, and I'm going with Donovan Eziraku. i went with a very productive player, 17 and a half sacks at BC, Boston College in 2024.
00:52:29
Roger Emeka
Lions like high-character guys. I struggled between him and Mike Green, but Mike Green has some potential character issues. I believe there was a sexual assault accusation at Marshall.
00:52:36
Fab
I
00:52:39
Roger Emeka
um So I am going to go with the edge, Donovan and Zaraku, and pair him with Aiden Hutchinson.
00:52:47
Nacc
Nice.
00:52:47
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:52:48
Fab
like it.
00:52:50
Roger Emeka
At pick 29, am getting word, yes, we have a trade in the works. We have a trade to announce.
00:52:59
Fab
What? What?
00:53:01
Nacc
We do have a trade at 29. The Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock from the commanders. The Steelers take the,
00:53:14
Nacc
They did exactly what the Browns did. They had to get a QB, get back into the first round, and they are selecting Mr. Jackson Dart. Oh, I can't wait to say that name on Sundays. Dart.
00:53:29
Nacc
Throws a dart. Yeah, look, yeah obviously a position of need for for the Steelers. I know it's a guy they like they liked coming into the draft, and many thought they were going to get him at 21.
00:53:41
Nacc
But they got aggressive this year and decided to go back into the first round, give it up a little draft capital, some for this year, some for next. Look, he had a productive college college career. um i guess ah the the the knock on him is that he didn't play very many good teams and he didn't play very well against the good ah good teams except for ah one game versus Roger, deep bunk by memory, Georgia.
00:54:07
Roger Emeka
He played decently against Georgia. um I think it was Georgia he played decently.
00:54:09
Fab
yeah
00:54:11
Roger Emeka
um
00:54:12
Nacc
Yeah, but that's kind of like the knock on on him really is that he didn't play the top-end teams.
00:54:12
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:54:18
Nacc
He is still a project, so hopefully after they do sign Aaron Rodgers, he sits a year.
00:54:24
Roger Emeka
That's what i was going to say. That's happening. That's like big night out happened. And there was no...
00:54:30
Fab
Yeah. what Yeah.
00:54:31
Nacc
not We knew knew wasn't who knew that wasn't going to happen then.
00:54:31
Fab
That was my next question, actually.
00:54:34
Nacc
Come on. That was like for sure not going to happen.
00:54:36
Fab
ah just... We're just waiting for for the other shoe to drop. I mean...
00:54:41
Roger Emeka
But, Nax, seriously, do like, real-life draft, are you convinced the Steelers are taking a QB, whether they trade back into the first or at 21?
00:54:48
Nacc
they will They will end... they will If they don't do something like this, which is, again, it's very aggressive, but I've heard... I've read a lot of beat writers and saying that they're going to be aggressive this draft. So whether it's trading players to get back up, whether it's trading picks, we don't know.
00:55:05
Nacc
But end of the day, regardless, there's a QB getting picked from this draft on this team, regardless of Aaron Rodgers, regardless of of anything. like Right now, it's Mason Rudolph and Skylar Thompson. So...
00:55:18
Nacc
they're gonna They're going to sign a vet. I feel like if Rodgers doesn't sign, they sign someone like um Carson Wentz, who's the only one available, vet-wise, out there. And they definitely, definitely draft the quarterback, whether it's like a shuck or they even had McCord in for a visit, like something something like that on the down the line, like late draft pick, six rounds, something like that.
00:55:35
Fab
yeah
00:55:41
Roger Emeka
Just throwing it out there and you guys don't have to respond. Will Levis for George Pickens.
00:55:49
Nacc
I
00:55:51
Fab
what what how do you That's the definition of two teams losing a trade. Will Levis for George Pickens?
00:55:51
Roger Emeka
ah
00:55:59
Roger Emeka
I said you guys didn't have to respond. I'd pick 30, the Buffalo Bill.
00:56:02
Fab
You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't say that. And then just like, I don't, don't understand.
00:56:05
Roger Emeka
We got to move on.
00:56:07
Fab
I don't get it.
00:56:07
Roger Emeka
ah We got.
00:56:08
Fab
How does
00:56:11
Fab
we got to move on? Let me drop this grenade and walk away, but we got to move on.
00:56:14
Roger Emeka
Just something for the just something for listeners to think about.
00:56:17
Fab
Guys, don't think about it. Let's move on.
00:56:19
Roger Emeka
ah Pick 30, Buffalo Bills. Fab, you are on the clock.
00:56:23
Fab
Yeah. So, um, Uh, this is, I'm taking defensive tackle Kenneth Grant out of Michigan. So the defensive line partner to Mason Graham, um, he, uh, he might not be as highly touted as Mason Graham, but he is still a stud on that defensive line, which is another need that the Buffalo bills sorely, sorely needed.
00:56:44
Fab
Uh, their, their defensive line from a, especially from a defensive tackle perspective, was really not that good. Uh, so now you have, you're bringing in Kenneth Grant, who's, uh,
00:56:52
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:56:54
Fab
who's a big boy, um plays big in a big man's game. We're talking about a guy who had five and six and a half sacks respectively the last two years and also a decent amount of pass breakups too.
00:57:06
Fab
um I heard about five per year as well. So this is going to be a very, very good player for the Buffalo Bills for a very long time to come. And they fill him in at the number 30 spot, which is a value pick as well.
00:57:21
Roger Emeka
Big need here. I've seen D-line for sure.
00:57:23
Nacc
Huge value.
00:57:24
Roger Emeka
I've seen Maxwell Harrison or Trey Amos as well here at the cornerback position.
00:57:24
Fab
Yeah.
00:57:29
Roger Emeka
But i either of took either of those two positions I think would have been been very good for the Beals. At 31, have the Kansas City Chiefs. ah Mike Breen.
00:57:40
Roger Emeka
Mike Breen. Bang! Not Mike Breen or from the NBA Knicks. Mike Green from Marshall will be the pick here. ah The Chiefs like their high, low character players.
00:57:54
Roger Emeka
So they're going to go BPA here. 17 sacks at Marshall in 2024. And this guy could be a stud. He could be a pro bowler. But his character issues made him slide down.
00:58:08
Fab
I think the risk is worth the reward at that spot.
00:58:10
Roger Emeka
Yes, absolutely. And final pick of the first round, pick 32, Knack. Who do the Eagles have?
00:58:20
Nacc
Yeah, the Eagles um had a little trouble covering some tight ends and and running backs last year coming out of the, basically in space. I'm going to go with ah Barrett Carter out of Clemson, linebacker.
00:58:37
Nacc
He's great in space and a modern kind of three-down linebacker who's great in coverage and something like so like I mentioned, the the Eagles have lacked, um especially last season. So think great fit.
00:58:49
Nacc
Projected to go low first, early second, so I think it slides right in with with need. Could they have gone another direction? I think there was some some nice cornerbacks still left, but I think they've shored up that position last year. So I think they go with a position of need here, and they picked a linebacker.
00:59:10
Roger Emeka
That concludes the first round, marathon first round. i think we did pretty well. The goal of this wasn't to, you know, see how many picks we get correctly. It's more, I would say, to give you a better sense of who these prospects are, where they could potentially land, and what kind of the range could be in terms of where they can go in the draft. So...
00:59:32
Roger Emeka
That's how we had it for the first round. Very quickly, we had some key players that we wanted to know in terms of second rounders. So we ended up at 34 second round. The Giants ended up taking Tyler sch Shuck.
00:59:46
Roger Emeka
So Giants get their QB of the future. we At 35, the Titans, we had Luther Burton III kind of ah getting them another explosive wide receiver. The Trelon Burks experience has been an absolute failure.
01:00:00
Roger Emeka
So they get some explosiveness that they haven't had since the A.J. Brown trade. At 38 in the second round for the Patriots, we had Jalen Noel. They get a little bit of juice to add to Stefan Diggs, 4.39 speed.
01:00:15
Roger Emeka
He could be very good in the slot. He could spell a little bit at flanker as well.
01:00:19
Nacc
Hopefully they don't ruin him.
01:00:22
Roger Emeka
Yeah, man, they've ruined a lot of wide receivers.
01:00:24
Nacc
ye
01:00:24
Roger Emeka
Like, this is the anti-wide receiver you. um At pick 39, right after the Pats, we have the Bears. this is where we had O'Marrion Hampton. Look, I don't think he lasts this long in the real draft, but the way ah we saw it in this mock draft just really didn't see ah a scenario where running back made a lot of sense for some of these first-round teams.
01:00:46
Roger Emeka
ah This makes a lot of sense for the Bears. And if you look at kind of the Ben Johnson lines type rotation, think Roshan Johnson and Omiron Hampton act as a David Montgomery and DeAndre Swift acts as the Jameer Gibbs.
01:00:57
Fab
Yep.
01:01:01
Roger Emeka
um At 42, we had the Jets, Mason Taylor. We only thought it was noteworthy because he is Joy Taylor's nephew. ah But i I didn't know, but yeah.
01:01:12
Nacc
it really
01:01:13
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
01:01:14
Nacc
Wow.
01:01:14
Roger Emeka
Yeah. um Yeah. So he's Jason Taylor's son. Tight end a key piece in the tan Tanner Ankstrand offense where he comes from the Lions, where obviously he had ah Sam Laporta and he was the consensus third ranked tight end in college.
01:01:31
Roger Emeka
At 44, we had Travion Henderson at running back. Explosive back. I think he'll fit well in Shottie's zone scheme.
01:01:38
Nacc
Makes total sense.
01:01:39
Fab
Yeah, 100%.
01:01:42
Roger Emeka
At 50 for the Seahawks had Jaden Higgins, ah wide receiver out of Iowa State. So he's the big bodied wide receiver to replace DK Metcalf. And he compliments JSN and Cooper Cup very well.
01:01:54
Roger Emeka
The Broncos finally get their wide receiver at pick 51 with Caleb Johnson. Sorry, sorry, Knack. Caleb Johnson out of Iowa. It's not necessarily the best scheme fit, but I think he'll be a solid a player from day one.
01:02:09
Roger Emeka
And then last but not least, at 54, we just thought it'd be interesting to mention the Packers getting Jalen Royals out of utah State. ah Really good wide receiver, good hands.
01:02:23
Roger Emeka
And again, just felt the Packers need a wide receiver that could catch the ball.
01:02:28
Nacc
Indeed they do.
01:02:29
Fab
Yes, they do.
01:02:30
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Guys, any final thoughts?
01:02:35
Fab
Not a fan of Tyler Shuck for the Giants at 34, but I guess remains to be seen.
01:02:39
Nacc
Oh my god. Wow.
01:02:40
Roger Emeka
Well, would you prefer, would you prefer McCord?
01:02:44
Fab
Yeah, maybe later on in the draft, though. But if I guess, depending on how things are rolling in the draft and all and all that, I mean, I don't really, I can't necessarily comment. i I like picking a QB at that spot.
01:02:57
Fab
It just wouldn't be Shuck.
01:02:59
Roger Emeka
yeah
01:03:00
Fab
I mean, this is assuming that Miller is going to go, and this is assuming that dark Dart's most likely going go the first round and Miller will too, right? So it makes sense.
01:03:07
Nacc
Wow, something you don't like for the Giants. I didn't know if I'd see the day.
01:03:11
Fab
Of course, lot of things I don't like for the Giants.
01:03:14
Nacc
I'm confused.
01:03:15
Fab
I'm still a fan anyways.
01:03:16
Nacc
Like Russell Wilson, but Tyler Shuck. No, no, no, no. Don't give me that noise.
01:03:20
Fab
Want have this conversation? We're already an hour in.
01:03:22
Roger Emeka
Yeah, let's let's keep it let's keep it for the the draft reaction.
01:03:22
Nacc
Nope.
01:03:26
Roger Emeka
Guys, thank you so much for listening. That was a lot of fun. Hope you enjoyed our first ever mock draft.
01:03:31
Fab
That was fun.
01:03:34
Roger Emeka
If you like it enough, we'll do another one next year. If you don't, well... We'll keep it to the experts. um As always, you can follow us on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, and wherever you get your social media and podcast.
01:03:48
Roger Emeka
On behalf of Fab and Knack, I'm Raj. Have a great evening, and we'll see you next week.
01:03:55
Fab
Peace out, everyone.
01:03:56
Nacc
Let's go.
01:04:00
Nacc
ah kind We a great week. Be cool to do a recap, you know?
01:04:04
Roger Emeka
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
01:04:05
Fab
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:06
Roger Emeka
sure. We spent enough time on this.
01:04:08
Nacc
Yeah.
01:04:08
Fab
Yeah, we did a lot of research on this.
01:04:08
Nacc
Yeah.
01:04:10
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
01:04:13
Roger Emeka
Peace out, everyone.
01:04:14
Fab
Peace out, everyone.
01:04:15
Nacc
Goodbye.