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Episode 54 - Hip__Hops & American IPA's (feat. Daniel aka hip__hops)
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On this episode we discuss vinyl record and beer pairing with Daniel aka Hip__Hops. We also drink and share our thoughts on some American IPAs.
Hip__Hops on instagram: @ Hip__hops
Hip__Hops on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/6dfdnubm
Theme music provided by Myke Kelli (@mykekelli)
Check out all our episodes at www.themaltinghour.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Vinyl Collections
00:00:00
Speaker
I'll buy my wife vinyls or she'll buy vinyl. So I do have a lot of like Taylor Swift, Dustin Timberlake, the Christmas album, stuff like that. I mean, that's on my list now. That is joking. Yeah, he's not joking. All those albums you just named, that is in Clark's Wheelhouse. Perfectly. Totally.
00:00:20
Speaker
This week we speak with beer and vinyl pairing guru hip-hop's while sipping American IPAs. This is episode 54 of The Molting Out. What's the haps on the hops, guys, that's peace. This the molten hour where we talk about a drink and tell you what we think every other week. And if we get drunk, well, we might slur our speech. Gotta get a cab, the friends who wish you had. Join us for a drink, join us for a laugh. Time is never wasted, way you're getting wasted. The molten hour here, people, people taking places.
Meet the Guest: Beer and Vinyl Enthusiast
00:00:49
Speaker
People, people taking places.
00:00:54
Speaker
Brand is on the keys, Clark on the drums, and I'm Tony Golic, one of the hosts of the Molting Hour. Welcome, everybody. This is, I was about to say this is week 54. It's not week 54. Is this episode 54? I think so, yeah. I only know it when I start editing where we're actually at, but we're almost halfway through the 50s. And then if we change episodes or weeks, then it's like,
00:01:19
Speaker
This whole park is headed out. When I know we're doing like future episodes in advance, like I stopped doing that. I won't say that. But since this is coming out next week, you know, or today when you're listening to it, it's out now. It's out now. You're listening to it. This is The Moulting Hour. I'm one of the hosts Tony Golic joined always with. Brandon Winninger. And making his return after taking a little nap.
00:01:45
Speaker
I'm all rested up, Clark Fetridge. Yeah, welcome. Good job, welcome all rested up. Yeah, I'm feeling good. Good, yeah, we know you need like to take breaks every now and then, because you got to, you know, get more energy, because you talk a lot on a lot of these episodes. Well, especially the last few episodes, it's been way too much. So my brain is just a little fried from speed. You didn't talk enough on your vacation beer episode, that was kind of... Yeah, that's what I...
00:02:11
Speaker
I'm still trying to get everything out that I didn't get out in that episode. So it's all going to come out in this one.
00:02:19
Speaker
whether or not anyone wants to hear it. We'll just do a part two. We'll just do a part two. Okay. So this week's episode, we got a guest. That's what we do. That's what we do. We have guests and our guest, I'll start off. He's got three names. I was told I was okay. Well, four names. You have four names you can go by. But if you are a follower of music or craft beer on Instagram,
00:02:47
Speaker
You may know him as hip hops. He also has his own YouTube channel, brand new, where he pairs beer and music together, which the three of us, I don't know, we necessarily do that. Actually, I've never done that other than maybe taking song names for my own home brews. But we're all big lovers of music and obviously big lovers of beers. Mr. Hops, you have joined us. Welcome.
00:03:13
Speaker
Yes, yes, thank you, thank you. So yeah, my name is Danny and. Dammit. That's one of the names now I can't use. Oh, you're welcome. And yeah, thanks for having me on. Yeah, like Tony said, I just started doing a YouTube, I've been doing Instagram for I think almost three years now, pairing vinyl records with beer and it's just sort of been as two of my hobbies that I had and I decided to mash them together.
00:03:39
Speaker
Yeah, that's definitely more specific, vinyl and beer. I did just say music, but the vinyl is- Yeah, sometimes music. Sometimes it's just made on the stories.
Exploring American IPAs
00:03:49
Speaker
True, but it's an extra nice, thanks man, I appreciate it. Okay, it's the last time he's on the show, guys. Yeah, I'm a big fan of vinyl records. Clark, you know this because when we saw the Crash Test Nummies live, you and I bought a record and got it signed by them.
00:04:04
Speaker
Yeah, well, when you say you and I bought a record, you bought a record and you own it, I am jealous of you doing so. But that kind of leads into a question I have for...
00:04:15
Speaker
Mr. Hops, Danny Hip-Hops, down the road, what he might pair with that record. Oh yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get there, man. Yeah, I like that. Ooh, that's good thinking, Clark. Way to go. If we let Clark ask that question later, it'll be... Jeez. Maybe after the show. That could be an after the final spin.
00:04:40
Speaker
That's just for this episode. The other thing that we're doing with this episode in particular, the beer style that we're focusing on is American IPA, a style that has been on the show for random reasons, but we've never actually done a full show that also focused on American IPAs. We've talked about hazy IPAs,
00:05:06
Speaker
And that's pretty much it when it comes to the IPAs. We focused on those. So we all, I think, pretty much have different beers this evening. And as we go through this episode and we talk with Dan, we will all talk about what we're drinking. Now, Brandon, you know what? Let's hold off on what I was going to do there. Let's start with Dan. Dan, what are you drinking?
00:05:32
Speaker
I have Maine Beer Company's lunch and they're at a Freeport, Maine.
00:05:38
Speaker
really good IPA. I can remember Maine just started distributing here maybe like two years ago or so, but this was always one of the beers that people were after. And now that we have it here, it's just sits on shelves, which is pretty amazing. I actually think it was about 2016 that they started. Yeah. And the only reason I remember it was because, um, the old Fisherman's, I think just started carrying it and then they had closed shortly after. So I think it was around 2016, like, uh, spring of 2016. So, but yeah.
00:06:09
Speaker
But to that point, it's not on every beer shelf. So not every place carries it, but you can go to places like, you know, Benny's or, you know, I think you said beer on the walls where you've got that, you know, those major, and not to, I'm not knocking Benny's like they are a major craft beer player. They get a lot of the good stuff in there, but you go to some of the smaller places where you get some good local craft beer. They don't always have like, you know, main beer, you know? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:06:38
Speaker
They're definitely the larger of the beer bottle shops. So since we're talking about that beer, I know you just cracked it. Have you had it before? And if you have, so what are your thoughts of having it in the past? And then what are your initial thoughts of trying it again? What are you getting from it?
00:06:59
Speaker
So my initial thoughts, I mean, I had it years ago, it's been a while, but my initial thought then, if I can remember back, it was that it was very bitter. And then now, you know, years down the road, it still tastes bitter, but in like relativity, it's not as bitter, a bitter bomb as it may have been to me years ago. So your palate adjusts, but I would say this is definitely a welcome. I haven't had an American IPA, just like a straight,
00:07:25
Speaker
bitter IPA in a while. I mean, most of the time it's the hazies that everyone's coming out with locally here now. So you have to kind of like look for a bitter IPA, I feel like. So it's a welcome change up.
00:07:36
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of, I think that's how I, I think I said I started this year wanting to embrace the, you know, original American IPA that kind of, I know that, you know, for me and Brandon and Clark, probably even you, that that's what kind of got us into craft beer. Picking back off that, piggybacking off that. How did you, when did your journey into craft beer start?
00:08:04
Speaker
So my journey started, it had to have been 2010 or 2011. I thought you were about to say 20 years ago. I forget how old I am all the time, but I'm roughly like 33, 34. Roughly, that's good. Yeah, that's a good age. He's younger than us guys. Play it cool.
00:08:27
Speaker
So that was, uh, that was my first, uh, intro to craft beer. And it started with, I mean, back then, I think it was like shock top and stuff like that. But then I, uh, the first craft beer I can remember buying was a Sierra Nevada. Like, I think it was a, it was either a Northern or some summer Southern hemisphere wet hopped IPA. And it was like crazy bitter and definitely was probably way too bitter to be my first craft beer.
00:08:53
Speaker
It didn't turn me off too much though. That's good. Yeah, I could see a super strong bitter IP being like, that's not for me. That's why anytime I suggest a beer for somebody, I rarely suggest an IPA. I feel like that needs to be something you find on your own. Start with a nice wheat ale. You know, a wheat beer is always very good to start people with.
00:09:18
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. So that was that was it. And I lived in Florida, actually, at the time, hence the cigar city shirt. But I grew up in that area and went to undergrad in that area and then moved to Chicago in 2012. So at the time, there was really only cigar city that was down. Oh, yeah. I mean, cigar city is, you know, everybody was pretty excited here in Chicago. We finally started getting them up here. So it's kind of like a taste of home for you. Now you can buy it up here.
00:09:46
Speaker
It's nice for me because when I travel down to Florida, I don't
Danny's Music Evolution
00:09:50
Speaker
have to haul cigars. I don't have to come back with my suitcase full of Hilah anymore. It's already up here. Well, an interesting side note on that. I was just up in Grand Rapids for one night for work and I went to this place called Perron Brewing just north of Grand Rapids.
00:10:05
Speaker
And I'm looking at the menu and they have an IPA called Hialy. I'm like, okay guys, yeah, yeah. Clearly someone's named this before, a real nice job there. And I read apparently it's actually Cigar Cities. And I don't know, I've read enough into the...
00:10:20
Speaker
partnership. Apparently, they have and why it's on tap up in Michigan, but it's actually Highline. Yes, they're owned. They're owned by the same parent company. There you go. And then I think it's one of the ones in Denver. I'm blanking on Oscar Blues. Yeah, okay. Got it. Yeah.
00:10:39
Speaker
Wow, guys, thanks for dropping some knowledge on both brainer and I know one of us knew that. Except for the Oscar blues connection, I think. Actually, I did know that. Okay, you know what, fine. I didn't know. Thanks for dropping the knowledge on me. So have you always been, I mean, this is a dumb question. Have you always been a fan of music? What I mean, everybody's got music in their lives. There's people who
00:11:05
Speaker
like music, there's people who, you know, have it in the background. And then I think I can honestly say that based on your post, you and I are very similar, where it's like, I'm constantly surrounded, surrounding myself with music. And I always have music with me. When, when did that all happen for you? Yeah, um,
00:11:24
Speaker
So, I mean, I've always been into music when I was young. I'll try to make this long story short, but when I was young, my dad... We got time, man. We got like a whole hour for a show. Yeah, we got to kill some time. So, my dad just listened to the top 40s radio station and my mom listened to countries. So, I kind of was raised on a little bit of hip-hop. At that time, I can remember Coolio's Gangster's Paradise was like...
00:11:48
Speaker
Huge on on the top 40 hits station. And then when I got into middle school I started diving into my own stuff and I got really into punk music and underground hip hop music and got really into political stuff, and that's what sort of drove me into the punk and underground hip hop scene.
00:12:08
Speaker
sort of grew out of the punk scene and never grew out of the hip hop scene. But I like a mix of genres from, I think Tony and I have talked about this, but like hip hop, like underground hip hop, like alternative, like folk music, like indie folk music, indie pop folk music, jazz music, I'm really into, I'm just into a little bit of everything. Not so much into like the mumble rap and everything like that, that's out now.
00:12:33
Speaker
but I'm kind of a old grumpy man when it comes to that stuff. That's what Clark likes. Yeah, let me tell you all about the... He's a big SoundCloud fan.
00:12:45
Speaker
It's funny. You can't say that, dude. We publish that so loud. Oh, no. No, that's a style. It's a genre. It's a genre. Soundcloud rap is a genre. It's funny listening to you say all that. I was going to jump in like a couple of times. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's pretty much I remember in high school, that's where it started for me, of like listening to a lot of punk, like all my friends. I remember here in Chicago when your kid, it was like,
00:13:14
Speaker
I listened to B96, like when I was younger, like B96, all, you know. Eddie and Jobo? Yeah, Eddie and Jobo, man. Let's get them on the show. That was the stuff that I listened to. We probably could. Pop hits, rap, R&B. And then I discovered Q1-01 because my sister's six years older than me and she had friends who was listening to punk bands. And so I went on that trip into alternative rock and punk rock. And by high school is when I was really big into punk rock. And then
00:13:44
Speaker
My buddy Dan gave me two albums, which was DJ Shadow's Preemptive Strike and Daft Punk's Homework. And so that right there just pretty much changed my whole course of my interest in music. Because I was like, here are two artists.
00:14:02
Speaker
Like one's named DJ and Daft Punk, I have no idea what they're doing, but it sounds dancy, but it sounds nothing like what I know as far as like popular dance music that I heard. So that kind of changed everything for me. And same thing that I went on the political side. I'm not even going to get into that of when I was performing with a guy for like fucking anarchist groups. It was great. And also a little weird.
00:14:24
Speaker
But yeah, it's it's it's funny, like I did that. That's that's my hope. I never have to go through my backstory of my music because I will just refer to listen to episode 54 and what Mr. Hopps had to say. Yeah, that's the same.
Beer and Vinyl Pairing Origins
00:14:37
Speaker
No, I've definitely mellowed out. But I might I used to be like heavy into like dead prayers and the moral technique and stuff like that. And they're very political. But then now I'm into more of like jazzy hip hop. I'm not into
00:14:50
Speaker
like in your face aggressive. It's nice to go back. It's nice to like when a song will pop up every now and then on a playlist. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that. And Jedi Mind Tricks and shit like that. Love it. But just, you know, I'm not always in that moment. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, Clark, Brandon, we're just going to keep talking about where we're at. That's fine. You guys seem to be cool. Like take it away. Thanks. I'm sure you guys favorite Jedi Mind Tricks tracks.
00:15:21
Speaker
Clark, does that have something to do with Zargons by any chance? No Zargons in this episode. So how did the whole idea of... It's a two-part question. How did the whole idea of pairing vinyl with beer come together and your vinyl collection seems to be very vast? Was that something that's been ongoing and then it just kind of all came together?
00:15:50
Speaker
Yeah, so, like I said, I was always into, oh, that's my dog, sorry. That's okay. I'll show you what you guys heard later. Into the music and the beer. And my wife one day, cause I was sort of like annoying her. I liked like the community behind the craft beer scene and like the,
00:16:19
Speaker
the smallness of it and how everyone kind of knew each other. And at that time it was different than it is now. But I enjoyed that. And so I'd always like to hear about some new brewery that came out or some new beer, some new whatever. And then I would also be talking to her about whatever music artist. And she was kind of, you could tell it was like, we talked to her so much about it that she gets a little annoyed about it. And so she was like, why don't you like do something to like get out and like your creative outlet out, pair them together. And I was like,
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, why not? And so it sort of went from there. And yeah, my record collection, I started records in like 2011. My wife got me a record player for our wedding gift. And we I just started then and it's crazy big now, but I've had a
00:17:08
Speaker
I've had several, I don't even know how many records, probably have over 700 records, but- Oh my God. But a lot of them, I had two different occasions where I was like given like over a hundred records. So I have a lot of old like classical and stuff I occasionally will put on or, you know, like, I don't know, some old like Barry White or Elton John that I got given to me that I- Smooth. On my own, but.
00:17:37
Speaker
No, that was one of my questions. I'm looking through your Instagram page right now and I'm going, do you own all this vinyl? I mean, like, that's fantastic. I mean, I, I'm a music novice, as Tony would probably tell you, but
00:17:50
Speaker
You know, I dabble here and there, but, you know, I'm seeing the NSYNC Christmas album there and I'm going, wow, that's some, that's a good poll. So is the beer, question is, is the beer and vinyl pairing limited to what you have or do you ever do things like outside of that?
00:18:12
Speaker
It's pretty much what I have. And the reason I say pretty much, I have a lot of records. And so I'll go to a beer store, like I'll go to a bottles and cans or your temple or whatever. And I'll look at this. I like to go.
00:18:27
Speaker
like bottles and cans and beer on the wall because they are ready to do the singles. And so I don't have to buy like an entire six pack of something or else I'd like totally go broke. And I'll look and I'll specifically be like, okay, I know I have like these records and I'll see a beer that reminds me of something and I'll grab it and then do the pairing that way. But I also, I have some other friends that we do bottle shares a lot less now that the pandemic's going on, but. I'm sorry, what's that? I'm unfamiliar with this pandemic you speak of.
00:18:58
Speaker
So I'll occasionally, they do a lot of trading. I don't, I don't, I'm not into like the whole trading thing. So they'll do, they'll get crazy beers or whatever. They'll always be like, they'll text me and be like, Hey, do you have something to go with this? And if I do, they'll like save it. So have it with me.
00:19:13
Speaker
I don't do those on the YouTube because I can't taste that while I'm doing that. So I guess like the preface to my question was actually like, as far as the vinyl goes, so is the beer that you pair limited to the vinyl that you own or have you ever gone out and like sought a record to pair with a specific beer? Like if you had something and it was like, damn, that's good. It would go good with this and you went and bought a record.
00:19:40
Speaker
Yeah. So one time that I can think of, um, I got a, uh, so my buddy had a old dark Lord that he traded for and he was wanting to open it. And so I, I was going to try and find something to go with it. So I picked up, uh, Quasimodo's, uh, there's a Lord Quas who Quasimodo is Madeline. He's a hip hop producer slash rapper, but, um, Quasimodo.
Social Media and Themed Posts
00:20:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:04
Speaker
He speeds up his voice so he sounds like he's like a cartoon character for those who are uninitiated. It took me a long time to actually appreciate Quasimodo. It's not the first time hearing him be like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, no, I definitely need to. The first time you hear it, you're kind of like, what is he doing to his voice to be like suck on helium or something?
00:20:26
Speaker
It's what it sounds like. Yeah, so I did do it that time, and I've had a couple other times where I've had pre-orders where I'll pick up a beer that I'll wait to open until I get it in, but I'll know it's coming in. I don't know how we...
00:20:44
Speaker
We ended up coming across each other, I think just through posts. I mean, I don't know. I don't know who like to exactly who's what. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just like, I remember seeing it. I.
00:20:58
Speaker
I think it was, I think one of the ones I remember seeing that you posted where I was like, there was a couple of posts that I was like, oh, that's, that's a really cool idea. I like that. And then I remember seeing your Christmas posts. I think it was with Mariah Carey. All I want for Christmas is you where I was like, this is, this is more than just cool. That's actually like, that's pretty funny and creative. Like it's not just like, you know, that, that, that was very well, well, uh, uh, executed there. I really liked that.
00:21:27
Speaker
My wife has a lot of, I'll buy my wife vinyls or she'll buy vinyls. So I do have a lot of like Taylor Swift, Dustin Timberlake, and the Christmas album, stuff like that. I mean, that's on my list now. That is joking. Yeah, he's not joking. All those albums you just named, that is in Clark's Wheelhouse. Perfectly. Totally. So without doing a deep dive, so just kind of speaking about the beer music pairing,
00:21:54
Speaker
So microphone brewing does a lot of things based off music. Have you ever done a post like doing a side by side with that? Yeah, I've...
00:22:05
Speaker
I mean, I did one the other day, they had their birthday, so birthday six or whatever, it was with the birthday cake, and I did Cage the Elephant's happy birthday, thank you, or thank you, happy birthday. But in terms of actually being dead on, hit the nail on the head, they had Sufjan Stevens come on field of Illinois, and they had the barrel of Illinois.
00:22:30
Speaker
And so I did pair that one up a little while ago. And I know there's been a couple other ones that I've done with their beers. Like I did a Lupe Fiasco when they had that Lupe Fiasco or whatever they did with the like, I can't remember what you call that cereal now, like a Fruit Loop cereal.
00:22:50
Speaker
Those are just like toss ups for you at that point. Like here's something. That's not a bad thing. It makes it easier so you don't have to really like, you know, dig too deep for that. That's good. Yeah, you're making me want to like go back and like look. I know I've done other microphone errors, but I just can't. That's awesome. It was just, you know, because we're talking about craft beers. What's the question then?
00:23:13
Speaker
Yeah. We recently chatted about microphone and we'd love to have them as a guest on the show at one point. Mic check one too. Oh yeah, there you go. Yep. This isn't a nail on the head, but it's MF dooms and food with microphones all I want to, or I want beer for breakfast. Yeah. Oh man. I got it. So did you drink that whole bottle while you listened to it? Yeah, bottle, yeah. Not, not water. I'll like put it on sometimes, but that's, that was definitely a sipper. Some of their stuff is a,
00:23:43
Speaker
not too into sweet beers so it takes me some time to get through some of those. I have found that recently with some of the sweeter beers especially we've talked about this before we're still talking about you know trying to get more Hubbard's cave onto this but I love their sweet stouts and the it's so good but I
00:24:03
Speaker
last summer towards the end of the summer after me like you know gotta try them all and drink them all it got to a point where i think it was coffee and cakes that i was drinking with a maple syrup and i took a sip and i was like this is really good i'm gonna go get a glass of water to drink with this to cut back on some of the sweetness it's still great like every time i see him i'm like you know doing like hazelnut and raspberry and all these other ones and i'm like
00:24:26
Speaker
really want to get it and I just don't pull the trigger because I'm like I should because it'll just sit in my fridge and it'll be fine and I can have it whatever. You have to remember too like when we started drinking those we were doing those on the podcast and like we were splitting them between well first me and you and I think if there was a couple times Clark was there we split but you probably split something or with a gas or whatever but yeah those are you know it's a it's not a large and what is it a 16 ounce can or
00:24:50
Speaker
yeah 16 ounces yeah but like but dude like those sweet stouts in a 16 ounce can it's like you it's not that it's what yeah it's really sweet but like you get like there's a um you know you get that like taste bud fatigue like after you know
00:25:11
Speaker
half through the can and you're like, okay, A, I'm fatigued and B, I'm drunk. So what am I going to do at this point? It's like, you know, try, try to chug it or, but I've done that several times. It was just like, it's like, this is too much. I'm going to put it in the fridge and like, hopefully it's good. And then I try to drink it within like a week or whatever. But those like goods, like those doubts, like they're usually fine like to go back to and like,
00:25:36
Speaker
Yeah, I should say my favorite styles of beers are Cezanne's. It was Hypeboy and Keeping Together. Avery Swanson used to be a Jester King. It's like my two favorite breweries in the city right now.
00:25:55
Speaker
But I mean, I do, those beers aren't as easy to pair stuff with because they're, I mean, a lot of times the name is just like, Saison, whatever, or, you know, like that kind of thing. But I enjoy all beers. I'm not too big into like,
00:26:11
Speaker
know, I'm not too big into like the super sweet or the milkshake IPAs I'm a hard pass on. I can't do the IPAs. You're in the right place. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. There's maybe one or two milkshake IPAs that I've had. And I
00:26:28
Speaker
don't even know if they're actually considered milkshake IPAs that I actually like they're just a lot of it all in a it's what's it Mr. Shaky from Maplewood. It's just vanilla added to like their hazy
00:26:45
Speaker
IPA, which I thought was like a nice, they do good milkshake beers, I guess, but I've never- Yeah, and then Brickstone. Brickstone, who are you? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was solid. That was one of the only ones I've really ever liked. Yeah, I remember when you guys did that Brickstone one. Yeah, yeah. And not to put you on the spot, but you recently had Tony's Cherry Waves. Yeah. What did you think about that?
00:27:07
Speaker
I liked it, so I... And also, if you were going to pair it with something, a vinyl, do you have an idea? He's really putting you on the spot. He said he wasn't gonna do it, but he just did. Yeah, so I have... I should also say, I don't have all my records memorized. I have the Discogs app, so I have all my... So I can just type in names or whatever, and I can... Yeah. Wait, so do you do it mostly based on the title of the beer and then look up something and then see what hits you?
00:27:34
Speaker
Yeah, title of the beer, title of the name of the artist, or if there's like some kind of imagery that- That's awesome. Otherwise, or whatever, just whatever strikes me. No, that's cool. That's pretty much, by the way, that's how I do all of our Friday features or all the American craft beer week posts I've been doing. Most of the stuff that I post for the page, I'll always choose something that has to do with either the name of the beer or the type of beer that it is. Yeah, for sure.
00:28:04
Speaker
I've like already blanked on what you were asking me. He asked you about the cherry waves. I want you to be very specific about what you told me because I told my wife and she was like, oh no, is that bad? Well, he ended up enjoying it.
00:28:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. So I passed this on to Tony already. But when I first cracked it, I poured it, and I took a sip right away. And it reminded me of a cherry cough syrup. But then as I let it sit for a little bit, and
Craft Beer Festivals and Community
00:28:32
Speaker
it sort of breathed. And I've had that happen with other beers, too. It wasn't just that beer, where it sort of develops in the glass or whatever you want to say. But a wine has to breathe. So that notion of it went away.
00:28:46
Speaker
it tasted like the natural cherry. Like I'm a big like, like my favorite fruit beers are like the new glares fruit beers. Cause I like how it tastes like the actual fruit. I don't have like candy flavored beers.
00:28:59
Speaker
So I enjoyed it afterwards. And I also, I didn't say this earlier, but I'm not big into like overly sour kettle sours. So I enjoy sour beers, but I like them either balanced like this cherry waves was, or I like them to be like a barrel aged sour to where it has like more character than just like sour, you know?
00:29:22
Speaker
Yeah, I appreciate that because I thought that was. I enjoyed how balanced it was and it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't too sour to me. And I liked the the natural fruit flavor. He called your beer balanced, Tony. You did it. Thank you. Not everybody. Yes, thank you. You actually so you you posted it. You you what I forgot what song you put an hour back from the Black Keys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cherry bomb. Yeah.
00:29:49
Speaker
Yeah, that one I just, yeah, that one I was searching Cherry and I was like, oh yeah, I like that song. So yeah, that one. And the name Cherry Waves actually I picked from the Deftones song, Cherry Waves. So I saw that while I was looking, but I was like, I'm not a huge Deftones. So I had to be honest with you. Well, Dan, we're done being friends now. You can mute him now, Brandon.
00:30:13
Speaker
Now, because then I got to ask him to unmute mental processing. We were like parallel the whole time and then Dan just broke. No, I don't care that much.
00:30:21
Speaker
Well, okay, so before we get back into you, let's start our little roulette here. Brandon, you are gonna let, you have two beers that you picked and you're gonna have Dan. I'm gonna start drinking my mind, by the way, but I'll talk about it. But you're gonna let Dan choose a number because you have two beers picked. So Dan, it's up to you. Don't blow it. Yeah, so I'm gonna give you two numbers. You pick a number and that's gonna choose the IPA that I'm going to do. The numbers won't be one and two. No, they won't be. So we're gonna do 14.
00:30:52
Speaker
and 89. So 14 was my baseball number when I was a kid. So I'll go with 14. Oh, God. Thank God. So I'm going to do Voodoo Ranger IPA. Hey, who's Belgian? And I'll tell you what the other one was. Not that I didn't want to drink it, but I have this so much. It's the luckiness IPA. I have not had Voodoo Ranger IPA in forever. So it was welcome.
00:31:21
Speaker
Yeah, there's a, and there's a bunch of different ranger now IPAs that they have hazy ones and imperial ones and cosmic and the cosmic might be wrong. I think that's more like when you just, I think they have a cosmic one, but yeah, there's, there's a, there's a bunch of different ranger IPAs. And I remember ranger IPA first coming out and.
00:31:42
Speaker
loving it. I remember the Imperial one too. Like it's funny. I'll see the Imperial one at the store for like, I don't know, it's like 10 bucks. And it's like an Imperial IPA. It's almost, I think 9%, maybe. Clark, we need you to check that while Brandon tells us what he thinks about it.
00:31:58
Speaker
Yeah, come on, Clark. Working on it. Sorry. Dan was waiting for the sound. Right on top of that, Rose. 9%. All right. Brandon, what do you think about it, baby? This one's 9%. No, no, no. Imperial. I was going to say.
00:32:12
Speaker
Um, yeah, take it slower. So this one's super clean. Uh, and I like it because you get all that hop aroma. I don't necessarily know. I don't know if it says on the can. Normally we read the cans to see if it says something interesting. This one, it doesn't, it's a government morning.
00:32:35
Speaker
Yeah, we should literally have a pre-recording of the government warning that we just slip in every time we talk about this. We talk about this vast soundboard that one day needs to exist. Yeah, it's just me clicking. Yeah. But anyway, so it's super clean. Obviously, you could see this is very clear, very good head. And then like I said, I don't know what hops are in it, but I get this hop aroma.
00:33:05
Speaker
It's not super really bitter. It's not super really bitter. It feels like I'm vaping when I do this. Look, I mute myself when I vape. So nobody has to hear that. You know, it's awful sounding, absolutely awful sounding. Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude. No, I was laughing because Clark literally just said what the hops were. You're like, like I said, I don't know what hops are. Oh, I thought that was the Imperial one. Oh, no, no, no. I wouldn't lead you astray.
00:33:36
Speaker
No, that's why we hired. Nobody knows what you do over there, Clark. So yeah, so totally, you get that mosaic, you get the, you know, you get the, I don't know, man, it's not overly carbonated, it's super smooth. It's weird because I feel like I, you know, with the shaggy tail pallet that I brewed,
00:34:01
Speaker
it's similar to that but it's not even the same hops but like the mouthfeel and the the aroma and like just kind of like how it drinks is just so super smooth like i i don't know why i don't buy this more because it's such a clean beer um
00:34:17
Speaker
And for an IPA at 7%, that's the benchmark where I would consider an IPA. Going any further, obviously, would be higher. And then compared to, obviously, if I was going to drink Lagannitas IPA,
00:34:37
Speaker
I don't know, I feel like the hop flavor is more prominent in this. And I'm going based off memory, I'm not gonna crack open the other ones, I don't wanna drink both of them. But yeah, I feel like this is like, super hop forward, low on the bitterness and just an enjoyable beer. And I honestly like I'm marking this up, I'm gonna check it in and make sure that I find this one a little bit more often because this is like a good drinking beer.
00:35:06
Speaker
It's funny because I feel like with some of the beers that we've had recently on episodes, especially for this year, when it's come to IPAs, we've all been like, oh man, this is great. I want to have this in my fridge all the time. I think it's just like a nice subtle reminder of how good just regular IPAs are. And you know, Brandon, you're not a big haze guy. I still have truth IPA. I've still got that because that is a delicious drink. Coming over.
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's become a beer that when I see it on the shelf, I'm like,
00:35:43
Speaker
the grab it but I mean even going back to like Ailman's IPA when we did the Ailman episode last year I mean it's just it for as much as we love big beers and you know we'll get together we did fucking Plop Day where we made our own you know Bourbon County Fest and we've talked about Burlage beers so much and we've had all these beers but IPA seemed to be you know American IPA seemed to be the
00:36:07
Speaker
go-to beer for all of us, even though it may not be what we buy all the time, but it's one that we were always like, why don't I buy it more? And that's kind of why, you know, when we were thinking about what beer to pair with this episode, see what I did there, I thought American IPA would make sense because we have talked about, you know, doing a full episode just on American IPA. And we've had IPAs on the show before, but we've never really just talked about the IPA. I mean, that is the style that for me, especially for
00:36:38
Speaker
When I got into craft beer and got into brewing, I know we've said this many times, I mean, IPA was a style that was just, that's what I drank. And stouts were good too. I really enjoyed stouts and porters, but I was always, you know, that's when I, you know, discovered
00:36:54
Speaker
uh what is it 120 minute IPA from Dogfish Head um and just all these like big you know bigger you need to find out there's a double IPA and a triple IPA hop stupid from Laguanitas was like I was blown away that I when they were still selling them in bombers which I think maybe they do you know 22 ounce
00:37:11
Speaker
I think that's 9% and like almost a hundred IBUs for five bucks. It was like, oh my God, like this is, what a deal. What a deal. It's everything that I want. I can split this with somebody or drink it to myself and you know, get all this like hoppy bitterness, you know, and that's, that's just something I've, I've, I've come to love. And I started missing. I, I, I still, I did go back and start buying, you know, some more of the, the hazy beers, but they're sitting in my fridge a lot longer now.
00:37:39
Speaker
I've seen my fridge a lot longer because I think I've just opened myself up to being like, you know what? I want that when I really, really want it, when I really want to taste it. Now I know the first time I go to a brewery, a new brewery or something, if they have a hazy IPA, I'm for sure gonna be like, I'll try that first and then I'll work my way through everything else because I'm interested in how it tastes. Well, that was my IPA, Rance. Thank you very much for listening, everybody. I appreciate it. This has been the Tony Golic Warehouse Rance for the evening.
00:38:08
Speaker
episode two. That's gonna be the side. Oh, there we go. We got my Patreon set up for the show. Great. The Patreon set up is Tony's warehouse rant, what he's gonna go through. Dan, you mentioned Cezanne's. I used to really...
00:38:25
Speaker
like the Saisons. And then I felt like, you know, as I was after IPAs, I was like, really, then I, you know, I think Farmhouse and Saison was the next style I really got into a lot. And I just, I feel like I burnt myself out on it so much that I haven't revisited. But hearing you say, you know, what you like, you know,
00:38:47
Speaker
that Cezanne is your favorite style. I forget like how much I did really like it. What is it about Cezanne's that you enjoy the most, like makes it your like favorite style of beer? So I think it's partly like, this doesn't sound weird, but like the romance of it, like it's like, it'd be like this like natural beer that
00:39:09
Speaker
You sort of perceive as like these people who love craft beer make. And I would say, I'll say that there's a lot of saisons I don't enjoy but I mean it's the same thing with style I mean, people make bad versions of things. But specifically I like
00:39:27
Speaker
Like Is Was, for example, I like what they're doing because a lot of their beers, they come out with two different versions of the same beer. So they have one that's bottle conditioned with Brettanomyces and then one that's not. So you can kind of see what the different strains of the Brettanomyces are doing. And it's definitely more of like a nerdy aspect of craft beer, but I just enjoy that. I enjoy how drinkable they are. I enjoy, it can be very different. If you look at the ones that keeping together,
00:39:58
Speaker
She's... Hell yeah. Sorry. Familiar sound. At first I thought that was my computer. I'm like, what am I doing? Me too. It's mine. Oh, God. Oh, boy. He's sharing his audio and that's what happens. Everybody, don't worry if you're listening to this on your computer. It was not your computer letting you know that there's notifications. Or maybe it was. Nobody knows. Yeah, maybe. Check it.
00:40:22
Speaker
I was going to say, uh, so like is wise does they have a, a fruited series where they'll add a fruit with a certain strain of pretend to my seeds that goes well with the fruit. And then they're keeping together. She does a lot of, she'll have honey in the seasons or whatever. I mean, there's a lot of.
00:40:38
Speaker
variations within like Saison or farmhouse is such like a broad term that there can be you can have a sour Saison you can have like a Brett Barnyard funky Saison I mean you can have a there's like such a wide array of them that I think if I could like pick one style to drink I think it would be that
00:40:57
Speaker
With that being said, is there this, you know, this isn't gonna be like your end all be all answer. This is just at this moment, at this time, from the top of the dome, is there a Saison or farmhouse that you were like, this is like the shit. This is one that like, it could be a one off or it could be one that like, you know, is on the shelves that you know, you can like rely on to go and get either one, one that you can say right now. So,
00:41:25
Speaker
I would say it's like my favorite ones are, and I really only see these at like the beer temple, but you can occasionally get some Belgian or like French Cezanne's from like Auberon or you know some of those like smaller breweries over there that they just have this like helluiness to the mouthfeel and they're just so smooth but they have
00:41:45
Speaker
all the aspects of a Saison that are great. I would say those. I can't name a specific one, but just like that style of Saison. Like I said, you have like Afterthought, which I love Afterthought, but a lot of their stuff is more sour Saison. But I mean, I have to be like in the mood for something sour. But yeah, I would say like that Belgian Saison style. Okay. Yeah, I think Brandon's brand. Yeah.
00:42:14
Speaker
Humblebrag over here. So I've had this, so here's the caveat to this. I've had this for quite a while, many a years, and it got lost in all of the other random beer that I have. But this is, it's Edith the Dark Farmhouse Saison. I'm really curious to how, or what may have happened inside this bottle. I will save this.
00:42:42
Speaker
to meet in person. And we'll figure it out. Awesome. We'll figure it out. And have some wild stuff that's like tucked away. I have way too much beer. And it's a lot of like, I can't drink this on my own. I have to like, share it with somebody. We're really good at helping out with like, I'm really good to actually, I'll say this, I'm really good with helping out everybody that I know. If you have a whole bunch of extra beer, I've got one that I've saved that I'll bring with and I'll help you drink yours.
00:43:07
Speaker
Before the pandemic, I was feeling after the final pours. 100%. That's all after the final pour was, was going through what Brandon has, which very grateful, as you know, there are a few listeners out there, anybody. There's one in particular that we really were happy to dig out from your seller there. Go back to that episode, everybody, figure it out.
00:43:33
Speaker
I want to say one more thing, connecting this back to Fishman's to have this like full circle. One of the first times I had anything from Hill Farmstead was at the Pale Popper Day behind the old Fishman's.
00:43:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Beer me Fitz was there pouring for. Of course he was. Who he was pouring for, but he was pouring for somebody. And he like. It was probably either beguile or a slap shot or I don't know anyone like 18th street. Like he goes, he knows everybody dude. It might've been 18th street. I think he was pouring like bitches bank or something like that. Probably. Thinking about it. I took all the pictures there. So I have to go back and look at my picture.
00:44:14
Speaker
Yeah, he was pouring, I think it might've been for 18th street, now they say that. And he tweeted something like, oh, like say this word to me and I'll give you a pour or something special or whatever. And I like- Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. And I don't remember, I think it was Hill Farmstead or one of the other was affiliated with Hill Farmstead. And I can't remember right now. That was a while ago. It was like the first or second pale popper day.
00:44:38
Speaker
Now that reminds me of that, that's a dude that we've got to get on the show. So it's so kind of going up the caveat of Pell Popper Day. I don't know if I've talked about this on the show before, but it started at Slap Shot. Like it was Slap Shot and crap, now I don't remember the other brewery that was brewing there. It was Slap Shot. Yeah, it was basically Slap Shot's brewery. And that was their answer to Dark Lord Day. Yeah. I thought it was microphone did it.
00:45:05
Speaker
Oh, no, no. Yeah. So microphone. He was brewing out of slapshot. Yeah, he was brewing out of slapshot. And they, their cool thing was that they waxed the bottle, the bottom of a can. And they were they were giving those out. So that was pretty cool. That was a waxed IPA.
00:45:21
Speaker
Yeah, which was like the exact opposite. Well, yeah, but in the exact opposite of what Dark Lord was. And it was like, it was free to come to. So you can just sign up and show up. And there was, I think, a food truck there. And that was pretty sweet. So cool event.
00:45:42
Speaker
in a pure time of craft beer. I haven't been to a beer festival forever, even since before the pandemic. I hadn't been to one in a long time. I can recommend one that's just kind of fun. It's fun in the sense that you get a chance to try out a whole bunch of beers that you may already know and you get to stay on the
00:46:02
Speaker
The right there at Lake Michigan and beautiful racing is the, what is it? I was going to say lake effect. You're late. No, it's a great lake. I built it up. Yeah. The Great Lake spear fest, which is a lot of fun because there are some special tappings, but it is a great time to be outside and it's always in September.
00:46:22
Speaker
nice weather. It's normally when riot fest is happening here in Chicago, right? Right. Yeah. Um, and I miss out on that, but it's a lot of fun and it's normally like 50 bucks and it's, that's a fun beer fest. You try a bunch of beers that you had already. That's the thing is I miss when beer festivals were like, yeah, 25, 35 bucks or whatever back in the day. And now it's like 85 plus for a beer fest. And it's like,
00:46:45
Speaker
This is no knock at Phobab, but as much as I want to go, because we, as you guys know, listening to the show, we definitely love barrel H beers on the show. I just, man, I went once, it was a lot of fun. And thank you, Brandon. And I didn't even get through all my tickets. And that's just a lot of money to, but then again, I do Plop Day or Prop Day. Am I a sellout? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to say, but I just, you know, you're exactly right. Like beer fests are pretty expensive, but
00:47:15
Speaker
It kind of makes sense and they are definitely fun, but the Great Lakes Brew Fest is kind of just like, I think it, like you said, you know, it feels like that old school, like Sierra Nevada pale ale is being poured and New Glares, they have special tapings like that, but you can go and just, you know, I'm going to get Moon Man or because it's around, you get their October Fest because it's in September, you know, but like you get to go there and just, oh, fill me up with that. And I'm going to go try, you know, it's like,
00:47:45
Speaker
But here's my caveat to that, no matter how many years we've went, the weather has always been beautiful. Even the year we served, our homebrew,
00:48:00
Speaker
And now we're not allowed to because of legal things, you know, you know, whatever. But yeah, still, but that, like the weather has always been amazing. It's in the racing zoo. Like, no, you can't go and see monkeys and stuff like where you're like hanging out, drinking a beer, but like you kind of walk through the entrance of the zoo and then they cut you off and put you into a field in the back.
00:48:21
Speaker
which is probably deserved. But Homebrew Island is always awesome. So now I think it's like centered around like Wisconsin Homebrewers. But like, if you get a chance to go there, like what Tony said, there's just so much amazing stuff there. Basically, Dan, what I'm telling you is that we're gonna we're gonna kidnap you and take you hopefully this year.
IPA Tasting and Preferences
00:48:40
Speaker
We'll see what happens. It's around Brandon's birthday too. So it's okay. Clark, maybe you're invited. We'll see.
00:48:45
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out if it's actually happening. There's no information at all. But apparently Lollapalooza is happening. What? Oh, great. Flash. Yeah. I'm just doing that right now. I am. I am as well. Sweet. There you go. There you go. Mark, are you a clarky your February birthday?
00:49:03
Speaker
Yeah, Tony, you? Me too, bro. Wow, look at this. Totally. Perfect. Four cool dudes. Whatever sucks. So, Clark, Clark, what are you drinking? Yeah, thank you, bro. That's good. Go over there, Dan. I am, Tony, thought I might be drinking a hero tonight. I am drinking a hero. Because a week or so ago, I went to Revolution.
00:49:26
Speaker
picked up a number of things. On your weekly trip. I was gonna say a week or so ago, last week. One of the eight days that I stopped by in the past nine days.
00:49:40
Speaker
I picked up the new hero package. This is a cashmere hero. The new issue, as they would say. The new issue. It was like brand new about two weeks ago, apparently. And apparently I drank this two years ago, but I do not remember it, but this is a good one. It's different. On the can, as we were just talking about reading the can, it says stormy notes of tangerine and candied orange. There's a lot of candied orange in there. Which one is it? You didn't actually say the name.
00:50:06
Speaker
Sorry. You're shooting us. You're shooting us. Yeah. Yeah. You said it. I thought I said it. Yeah. Oh, you did. Is nobody listening to me? Brandon said it multiple times. Tony didn't hear the name of beer. I was focused on just being the league of... I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Typical Tony.
00:50:26
Speaker
No, there's enough. Yeah. No, the other ones in there besides anti-hero, obviously they kind of tasted the same one was mosaic and the other one I can't remember at the moment, but this is different. It definitely has candied orange. It's a lot of candied orange in there. Very nice, very refreshing. So.
00:50:46
Speaker
I don't, I don't know if I actually, I don't know. I don't know if I've had cash. I didn't think that I ever had, but I checked on tapped. And apparently back in 2018, I did have it. And it was just before plop day because I wrote pre plopping. Hmm. Oh, fun. Yeah. Well, maybe, or it's before we met up, like, you know, cause you gotta have a beer before we meet up. I can't see Clark without having a beer before I see him. It just kind of, you know, eases the nerves of like how annoyed
00:51:13
Speaker
Will he be with me or will I be with him? Yeah, it kind of allows us to hang out together. And then once the beers wear off, we keep drinking more. So we don't even notice. Yeah, that's how it goes. Daniel, it's going. It looks like you are you pouring the same? Did you pour the same one or did you crack something new? That was a two-hearted ale. I saw it. Two-hearted. OK. I caught him busted, two-hearted.
00:51:39
Speaker
He wasn't trying to hide it. No, no, no, I know. It's just what you said. Like, I saw it. I saw it. I saw your board. Don't lie, bud. Don't lie. Do you have with those two IPAs that you're drinking tonight, do you have a favorite like go-to IPA that like, you know, obviously we know that Cezanne is your favorite style and every other style can go to hell in your book. But do you have a favorite like go-to IPA at all?
00:52:07
Speaker
Oh man. How's that? We're putting you up. We're giving you the hard questions. We were easy. We were easy on Jackie last week. We left it all for you. No, I, uh, I like to switch it up a lot and not, not in like, uh, I like to tick off this, this, this or whatever, but this, whatever speaks to me when I go or whatever it looks like it's fresh. I mean, I love, I love a lot of the half acre IPAs. Um, obviously Daisy covered the paleo, but I, I love, I know like,
00:52:35
Speaker
Home's like a hazy, I can't remember all their other ones. You know, they have like the seasonal IPAs that they always do. I love all of those. I love anti-hero. But to have like a go-to that I'm constantly buying, I don't. I just kinda, whatever looks good to me at the time.
00:52:53
Speaker
So like this two-hearted is definitely maltier. It's like more of a malt sweetener, the main lunch did. So it's a different, another like aspect of an IPA, but I'm thinking I liked, this is like, it's good because I haven't had one for a while, but I think I liked the lunch a little more, just like,
00:53:12
Speaker
tonight at least. Sure. Yeah. And it's, it's funny. I like a beer can do that. Like, you know, right now at this moment, I like this a little bit more than the other.
Danny's YouTube Channel Journey
00:53:20
Speaker
Um, one thing we, we, we touched on in the beginning that we haven't really gotten into. So you had your Instagram page. How long have you had that for now? Um, it was like 4th of July. I just remember that was my first time. It was a 4th of July, but it was probably like three years ago. All right.
00:53:39
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to scroll back. You have a pretty good following on, sorry, my internet just told me my connection is unstable yet again. So I may have cut you guys off, I apologize. You have a massive, quite a large following with that. When did you decide
00:54:01
Speaker
to do a YouTube channel and how did that all come about? And then obviously, you know, at the end of the show, we'll tell everybody where they can go with that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So 4th of July of 2018 was my... There it is. So Instagram was moving or moved a lot faster for me. That's where I started obviously. And it's going well. I mean, I guess I just, I like...
00:54:25
Speaker
that I have with people like putting people into new music, that's partially why I wanted to do it. I wanted to start a YouTube channel, it's probably been for like a year or so, but I just never
00:54:37
Speaker
like made the jump to actually do it. And now that I have made the jump to do it, I haven't been as consistent as I should be, but I like talking music with people. I like putting people on the new music. I like putting people onto different beers and everything. And so it just sort of made sense. Like, yeah, I can do these long writeups in my post and hope that people read it. But the YouTube following I do have, which is very small right now. It's not moving as quickly as Instagram. Hey man, I'm on there.
00:55:07
Speaker
Yeah, no, I appreciate it. Yeah, it's, it's, it's going in
00:55:13
Speaker
It's just another creative outlet. It takes a lot more time because you're, I mean, I have to edit the videos, which takes forever to do. Just do what I do. I just, I just wing it. I just kind of just like, that sounds good. And then when someone tells me I did something out, if I hear it when I'm going through, I'll let it out, which is not. And so since we're interrupting, I will make a correction. Your first post was April 23rd, 2018. I said my first pairing.
00:55:41
Speaker
Oh, okay. For the record, I'm an, I am an attorney. So I, uh, I make sure I got my eyes across my teeth. Oh, great. Well, if you ever meet my wife, great. You and my wife will have a great conversation. She's a paralegal. Great.
00:56:04
Speaker
I was just posting my record collection initially, which is what Brandon's alluding to. And I had a buddy who was like, hey, I thought you were going to be doing beer pairings with it. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I was going to do that. So I started actually doing the pairings. So wait. So question was, was the name always hip-hop?
00:56:22
Speaker
Yeah. I do have a funny story sort of about, it was always hip-hops because most of my record collection is hip-hop. Yeah. And it just sort of rolled, but I had a, my best friend made a logo for me and had, and it's not the logo I have now, but it's just like a funny story. My best friend made a logo for me and made me a bunch of stickers and stuff a couple of years ago. And it was actually like that Christmas that I started doing it. And, um,
00:56:52
Speaker
He made me this, I posted it and then like within like a week, I had this guy reach out to me and I basically like a cease and desist, which is like so craft beer.
00:57:04
Speaker
this like, this guy was like, Hey, I like what you're doing. But your logo looks exactly like mine. And I'm like, I didn't even realize it because I didn't make the logo. I told him that I was like, and I just I was totally like respectful of it. I was like, Yeah, you're right. Like, I saw what he was coming from. And I pulled it. And I didn't have a logo for like two years. And then
00:57:24
Speaker
And I just decided to make one. And that's what the new one is. Just very plain black and white. That's where the lawyer in you stepped in and was like, you know what? I have to respect this. That guy was crossing his eyes and dotting his teeth. I've gotten a cease and desist before and it's scary.
00:57:39
Speaker
Well, it wasn't literally a season. It was a DM on Instagram. Oh, no. So no, no. Mine was a literal cease and desist. So back in the day, just quick story, back in the day, Cafe Press started up and I was making shirts. And I don't know if I had never said this on a show, but I'm a Howard Stern fan. And Howard Stern was moving to Sirius Radio. And I had this huge Cafe Press thing where I made all of these shirts.
00:58:07
Speaker
I got an email with a letter from Don Buchwald, who is his attorney, or no, his agent with a cease and desist letter from like, you know, with all of these names on there and like, blah, blah, blah, you'll be sued by this. And I was like, nope, nope, close that shit down. Because I had already made like a grand off of the stuff that I posted. And I was like, all right, no, I'm sure they're not. But it was a funny story, like,
00:58:37
Speaker
Season desist scared the shit out of me. Yeah. I won't say not not to like I know we don't have a ton of time for this, but we have all a it's an hour show and come on. We're only like 10 minutes in, right? Is that true? I'm going to say I haven't even talked to Clark yet. Yeah. Clark's lesson overs. Whatever. Yeah.
00:58:59
Speaker
This guy does deep in these episodes. Yeah, no, I literally did listen to everything while I was. But I was going to say, I feel like right now, I feel like it's a lot worse than it's ever been with like.
00:59:17
Speaker
like copyright infringement with craft beer and like all these glasses that I see people posting and they're selling for like 40 bucks a pop. And it's all like total ripoffs of, you know, what, and it's just wild because it's like, they're going to just do one run of this, sell it out. And then they're never going to do it
Podcast Dynamics and Promotion
00:59:33
Speaker
again. Obviously pop onto whatever other nineties nostalgic thing that they're going to come up with. Nobody's ever going to get like held accountable for any of it.
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah, I think that I think that comes into play with some of the beers that people try and put out to where someone not going to put the brewery on blast because I can't even think of it, but someone did like and it's not the yingling Hershey's, but someone did like because yingling and Hershey's that was an actual collaboration because I think there's ownership of somewhere there, whatever.
01:00:03
Speaker
But someone did like a Hershey's beer, like specifically looked like a Hershey's logo. Maybe I'm confusing the candy or the brand or something, but there was something where it was like, that's legit. Like they literally did that. And that just seems like you're asking for a lawsuit, but you're, I feel like it's just a way to be like, Hey, I want to get some recognition real quick and we're going to sell this beer. And that's it. We're done. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
01:00:27
Speaker
Kind of scammy. Kind of scammy. Yeah. I do have to say, I feel like Brandon is like a, what's the right word here? I feel like you do a lot of different things. Like just from listening to the show, it's kind of weird. I feel like I know you guys already, even though I don't really know you guys know you guys. If you've listened to every episode, you know, this is it. This is what, so when you talk about wanting to do a bottle share with us,
01:00:57
Speaker
This is it. Clark is still not allowed to talk. That's correct. In person either. What's that big button look like in person? I mean, there's a timer, like they literally put a timer on the table. And when I say something, they count it down and it's like, all right, you've used 30 seconds. If you're 45 seconds, you only have 15 seconds left.
01:01:21
Speaker
And I have to talk really fast. You're generous. I wasn't gonna bring out the muzzle to show everybody. Yeah, I mean, I don't wanna let everybody know. He needs to learn that firsthand. Oh my God. Yeah. We're not that weird, everybody. But yeah, Brandon does do a lot. And actually, and I think maybe I've said this on a podcast, but like, as much as...
01:01:43
Speaker
this podcast runs like we when brand and I started doing this together it was just kind of like well let's figure it out and Brandon does a lot of shit like behind the scenes to make sure that like
01:01:56
Speaker
We're out there and that like, this is a well-oiled machine. I'm just here to just edit and post, baby. That's it. We ran our ad on the fucking 90, man, like in the highway. Like, Brandon has so much shit. We've got a shirt. Yeah, we had, we, Brandon, anybody in Chicago, if you saw that ad, congratulations, because I'm the only one who saw it at one point. But yeah, with the digital billboards, we had digital billboards up for a while. Yeah, digital billboards up.
01:02:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. We're going to do it again. I think it's so we had. Yeah. So we had him going on the 90. We had him going on like if you were going down Montrose to towards like the hip like Montrose and Forest preserve drive. There's a gas station there. That billboard had him Foster and Harlem had him and it ran for like a week and it ran like over like almost like 2000 times like it was awesome. It was and it was just it was kind of like
01:02:51
Speaker
The company was like, you just pay what you want. And then like, it'll like, whatever. And I was like, all right, I want to pay like 20 bucks a day. And it like ran like a shit ton of times. I was like, holy hell. It was pretty funny. Tony gave me the gift bag with all this stuff in it. And I was like, this is really cool.
01:03:10
Speaker
I've been thinking about trying to do stickers again, stuff like that. And he was like, talk to Brandon. He does all of the posters. Oh, yeah. What else was in the key chains? Yeah. T-shirt. Let's hold off on the key chain idea, but just go with the coasters and stickers for sure, and shirts. Those were key chains. I think we got to find something else. Brandon and I currently have koozies. Clark, you might get a koozie this year. We'll see. I got to find my koozie. It's in my office. I don't know where my koozie is either. It's been lost since the summer. Yeah, both of us.
01:03:40
Speaker
I'm going to throw myself in here. Talk about what you're drinking. Yeah, yeah. I just pressed no, I'm not 21 on the website and it sent me to send an email to them. That's fucked up. I want to drink it. Oh, good. See, I knew you were going to drink it. So I wanted to go off of what Clark
01:04:02
Speaker
had a sad on maybe the Maltese or Christmas or New Year's, whatever, when he wanted to, you know, try something new, like expand your horizons. And I decided to buy a beer from phase three that was not a hazy or a, you know, they actually, okay. So they're, God, they do milkshake IPAs that are actually
01:04:29
Speaker
really good and I think it's like they have different fruited shantilies that are like very high in alcohol and they're kind of sweet. Sharing that type of 16 ounce can with somebody I would do that in a heartbeat I've seen it before and they also do like oh no and they do the creme the creme is their
01:04:45
Speaker
I believe they're milkshake IPAs. The Chantilly's just fruited beers that are also fucking awesome. But so I've never had just an IPA from them. And so I grabbed lost in the moment. This is from phase three out in Lake Zurich, I believe. And it says classic American IPA with Citra, cryomosaic and Amarillo hops. So Citra, mosaic, Amarillo, those are like, those are my favorite hops when it comes to IPAs. And this is, it's,
01:05:14
Speaker
Um, let's see, very fruity. It is also not overly bitter. I'm not sure what the IBUs on this are. Um, and 16 ounce cans, I think it was only like, it was like a $12 four pack or something like that. I'm not really sure. Uh, but for 16 ounce cans, you know, that's six, 6.6%. It's a nice bitterness. There's a little sweetness to it. Not like a multi sweetness, but
01:05:40
Speaker
just a subtle sweetness that helps balance out the bitterness. I really like this. And if you guys haven't tried this, definitely give it a shot. I think you'd appreciate it just knowing where we're all at and what we like about IPAs. This is, I think, in all of our wheel houses. Phase three, the only time we've ever talked about there was their collaboration with Goose Island, which I'm a bird, was whoa.
01:06:06
Speaker
Solid. We almost heard the theme song again or the ending. But yeah, I love this. I think this, it says, you know, it's a classic American IPA and that's really what I get from this. I really like it and I'm glad I've gotten more of them. I was going to have it yesterday when I grabbed it, but I'm glad I waited to try it with you guys. Good night, everybody.
01:06:35
Speaker
We're very proud of you, Tony. We are very proud of you. So how does it compare to like the hazy IPAs or whatever?
01:06:44
Speaker
Um, it is. So my question is more like, like, I feel like the hazy IPAs and even going into the milkshake IPAs there, the mouth feel is thicker. It's, you know, it's a bigger beer. Yeah. Not that, not, not necessarily that it's a bigger, like an ABG, but it is necessary. It is a bigger beer. So like, how does it compare? This is, um,
01:07:08
Speaker
It's, it's like a medium body. Um, it's not thin by any means, and it's not heavy. It is very reminiscent of, you know, when I, when I think back of like, you know, you're drinking the, the Laguanitas IPA right now. And I had an anti-hero earlier. It's a lot of the same lines, you know, it's, it's.
01:07:29
Speaker
It's refreshing actually, it's really nice. Hazy beers to me have kind of become, there's a bunch of hazy beers out there that I like. What I like about Hop Butcher is that there's almost like weekly, a new type of hazy beer that comes out, which becomes increasingly difficult. I used to have that fear of missing out on it until I realized,
01:07:48
Speaker
I just got to wait maybe a couple months or one more year and I'll get it, you know, next spring, which I think is really cool. There is this like the sweetness and this bitterness that can be a bit much where you don't want to
01:08:03
Speaker
There's times where I crave that type of beer and that flavor, that mouth feel, that silky smooth type of beer. And this is just like, I'm having a beer. It just happens to be bitter. You know what I mean? I don't know if that makes sense. It's a beer. It happens to be bitter. Yeah.
01:08:25
Speaker
No, I get it. And that's even more true when you're comparing it to like the hazier IPAs or like the milkshake IPAs, because some of those are not as bitter. I don't feel like bitterness is kind of subtle. The hop flavor is more prominent, but then you've got that lactose that kind of comes through and like overpowers. That's what overtakes the bitterness, I think.
01:08:51
Speaker
Yeah. We haven't tried it. We've got some lactose to try it, but we haven't tried it. I feel like the one thing
01:09:01
Speaker
that I can like differentiate like hazy IPAs and like a classic American IPA. I feel like the American IPA, you get the bitterness like on your tongue and like the forefront of your mouth. Okay. I always get the bitterness like in my throat, like it's like, oh, it's like, I think it's heavy dry hopping. Yes. You get it like, it's a different
01:09:22
Speaker
to me. It's almost, there are certain hazy IPAs that almost, that I've had before that give you that bit of that hot burn. And you're exactly right. There is that classic American IPA will give you that bitterness on your tongue where you can taste like multiple things, the fruitiness, the piney-ness, that bitterness, all those different types of flavors on, you know, the sides of your tongue, on the top of your tongue. That's where all those receptors are.
01:09:52
Speaker
And then for hazy ones, it's like you get that fruity, juicy, sweet. And then there's that bitterness, you know, in the back of your throat. And sometimes depending on, you know, if there's, if they go too crazy with the hops, you do get that hot burn where it's like, Oh, there's like this almost stinging sensation. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. That's it. Yeah. That's a much more elegant way of what I was trying to say. That's amazing that you thought that that was eloquent. Oh man.
01:10:22
Speaker
Um, well, uh, gee Dan, I feel like I could keep talking to you for pretty much the, I can go another hour talking about music with you. That's for sure. Um, okay.
Gratitude and Future Collaborations
01:10:35
Speaker
Okay. So I'm going to go grab another beer. No, um, I really appreciate you coming on to the show. Um, especially because I had told these guys we were doing it.
01:10:43
Speaker
And then you message me and you said, Hey, do you still want to do this? Literally in the beginning of that day, this is, I'm calling myself on on this literally in the beginning of that day, I messaged Brandon. I said, Hey man, we need an episode for Monday. And then I remembered he and I did naturally the final pour that we're going to do. And then I was so happy that you messaged me. Cause you said, Hey, do you guys still, are you guys still want to do the thing on third? You do the episode tomorrow. If not, you know, we can go ahead and, you know, another time, no big deal, which is very,
01:11:11
Speaker
gracious of you. And I felt like I got my face at that point. I was in the car with my buddy and I went, oh man, I forgot I have a guest scheduled for tomorrow from the show. I'm just happy that you came on and did this. It's really cool what you do. And I think it's really interesting approach to craft beer and music to be able to find a way to pair those things together because as you know, as a fan of both yourself,
01:11:41
Speaker
just to have that type of, bringing those two worlds together is super cool. I mean, we know there's collaborations between musicians and beer, Run the Jewels, other breweries and other bands and stuff like that, the Deftones. Your favorite band, the Deftones, I've done it with Belchic Beaver, you know, and there's a ton of other bands. There's just the ones off top of my head. You know, music and beer have always gone together, but it's super cool to see what you're doing and your approach to it. So thank you for bringing that to the world, man.
01:12:09
Speaker
No, I appreciate it. And I think I may have said this to Tony before, but to tell you other guys, I think you guys show what differentiates you is the fact that you guys do homebrew. Because I've homebrewed one beer before with my buddy who's English. And let's just say I'm not good at the metric system, and I definitely stop measuring water.
01:12:37
Speaker
Our English porter that we made ended up tasting a little bit like boiled peanuts, which from the South, that can be a good thing. So yeah, yeah, I mean, peanuts and I'm going to go get my wife. Well, play your cards right, Mr. Hopps. And I'm sure there's been things that Brian and I have talked about maybe having guests come back on, which is originally what we wanted. It was brew beers with guests and everything. But
01:13:00
Speaker
You're in the neighborhood. You're more than welcome to come and join us to brew some beers and we can come back on and pat ourselves in the back. We totally have an into the void brew coming up.
01:13:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. The, the stout, which again is another music thing for me. It's a nine inch nail song into the void. That's how I came up with the idea of Brandon. I don't know if I told you that I probably did. Great. Uh, yeah. Yep. That is, that is the, that is the Fanny cinnamon roll step. I've got, I've got it. So it's into the void and then roll on is cinnamon, the cinnamon roll thing. So into the void is going to be the based out and then we're going to do adjuncts and whatever as we go on.
01:13:41
Speaker
but I do have an idea for Tony that I will fill him in on afterwards. It'll be a secret for everybody. Fantastic. This is normally where I blow it. Dan, where can everybody find you on the internet? I will tell you in one second, but I have to go back. No, no, I'm ending the show, Dan. You're steering me off course. This is how it works. I'm raising my voice like I normally do on an episode and it's happening now.
01:14:08
Speaker
No, sorry. You wanted a pairing for your crash test dummies. That's right. Oh, Clark, look at that. He didn't forget about you. There is a, I don't even know if they still make it or not, but Hailstorm makes a crash test dummy beer. Shut your mouth. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Yes, they do. It actually like the, the actual crash test dummy is like the car crash test dummies, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just called crash test. Oh yeah. Belgian style triple.
01:14:37
Speaker
Ooh. But hey. It looks like somebody just checked it in yesterday. So I'm going to hailstorm right now. OK, see you later, Clark. I think I just smelled like maybe. Right on top of that rose. Definitely on top of that rose. All right, Dan, if there's ever a chance we can come on to your YouTube channel and we can, I think maybe I'll bring over the sign crash test that means God shuffled his feet album.
01:15:05
Speaker
We'll get a hold of the Crash Test Dummies beer, and then maybe the four of us can sit there for a minute. Yeah, I mean, I assume we, Tony and I assume you've been looking for super fans of Crash Test Dummies that went to two of their shows within eight months of each other, sat in the second row at each show. I assume that's on your list of shows you were looking to do.
01:15:26
Speaker
I actually, I have to tell you guys, I do want to get guests on the, my show, but I feel just not us. No, no, no, I would, I would love it. I, it would be also special because I have no, and I've never heard of the crash test on these before.
01:15:42
Speaker
Get ready to list. It's gonna be a whole like education. Dan, do me a favor. Do me a favor. Do not listen to the crash test dummies until we all get together and we play the album for you, okay? Well, he probably knows the one song. We're not gonna say anything. I mean, most people do, but we'll just leave it at that.
01:16:02
Speaker
They're not the safety of these people, are they? No, right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a 90s, 90s, 90s. Once there was a boy who. And I love the crash test dummies, but I never get invited to go to live shows. So it's like weird when they come back around. Yeah. Well, OK. Anyways, 100 times. Yeah, I literally I literally took a screenshot of me listening to it on Spotify today in Santa Clara. It's a CTD kind of day. Certainly is.
01:16:31
Speaker
Anyways, Dan. I recognize any album covers or anything. I'm not going to listen. We'll teach you. We'll teach you. Very easy. Brains trying to ramble. Where can we find them? Where can we find them? Yeah. Dan, where can we find them? That was the initial question.
Closing Remarks and Humor
01:16:49
Speaker
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
01:16:51
Speaker
So you can find me on Instagram at hip underscore underscore hops, because somebody had one underscore already. And then you can find me on YouTube with hip hops also, but it's probably going to be hard because I don't know, there's probably a million things called hip hops.
01:17:10
Speaker
So it actually was kind of hard. But what I'll do is I'm going to find the actual link because I did. I put it in hip hops. And I'm like, what the fuck is what the fuck? Where is he? And I had to go through a little bit. So, you know, you get once you start getting that traction, baby, when you put us on that show talking about crash test dummies. Whoo. It's going to be the Canadian beer. Hey, see, all the Canadian beer drinkers are going to be like, this is great.
01:17:36
Speaker
Yeah, I do have for my new whatever my newest video is, I have the link in my bio on Instagram. So just find me on Instagram at hip underscore underscore haps and go from there.
01:17:50
Speaker
Sorry, I'm sorry. I know. I know. I know. Sorry. I muted myself because I was vaping and then I tried to unmute and then it was given the what is it? Don't put them to school. It's got to be your bull. Dan, thanks a lot, man, for for for joining us. We do appreciate it. There's a lot of fun and.
01:18:08
Speaker
We look forward to educating you on the crash test dummies. And who knows, I'm assuming at some point since, you know, it is now safe for actually, I think you're fully vaccinated this morning. Yeah, it's been almost three weeks now since I've been perfect. So all four of us can finally get together. Maybe we'll do it after the final four.
01:18:26
Speaker
uh you know when we when the four of us get together and share some bottles um but uh yeah thanks thanks again for joining us uh anybody else got anything else they want to say before i i start telling everybody you said everything and more brandon brandon i love you man love you too buddy clark
01:18:44
Speaker
I'm here. You're a swell son of a gun. Yeah. You know, I love you, Clark. I love you guys. I love your landscape beard. Yeah, thank you so much. Clark, I'm also glad your house is. I'm glad your house is my beard. Yeah, just just a battery issue. It's fine. Oh, OK, good. Yeah. Well, Brandon, it won't take long for it to grow back in. OK, that's it. Beards are growing. Houses aren't burning down and the crash test dummies are the best band ever. Bye.
01:19:12
Speaker
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01:19:28
Speaker
An untapped, B-Dub drinks beer. Tony can be found on Instagram and untapped under Asafelp Chicago. On Twitter, TheAsafelpChicago, Clark can be found as Clarkhouseky on all three. Be sure to subscribe, like, and rate the show on your preferred podcast listening platform. Until next time, cheers from all of us at The Malting Hour.