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What is going on at Marvel Studios?! Kevin Feige needs to get it together .
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Welcome to the first episode of the Beyond the Shot Podcast! Today Melody and Rodney are breaking down the Avengers Doomsday announcement from last week.. you know the one with the chairs. We break down our thoughts on everything that went down. Did we like it? Do we have hope for the future of Marvel? Tune in to find out.
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Transcript
Introduction to Beyond the Shot Podcast
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All right. Are you ready? First episode. Let's do it. I'm so excited. Okay. All right, friends. Welcome to the Beyond the Shot podcast. We are your hosts, Melody.
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And... Hi, I'm Rod. I'm your cousin. We're here to talk movies, shows, entertainment.
Anticipation for Fantastic Four Trailer
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Something that we, me and Mel, love to talk about in our spare time. So we said, yeah, you know what?
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Let's make a podcast. Let's just do it. let the Let's have other people listen to our crazy ideas and thoughts and hear us, you know, sometimes have opposing ideas. Sometimes. Oh, we're going to have opposing ideas. We're going to definitely have opposing ideas. It's going to happen.
00:00:41
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I'm sorry. I'm a little distracted, folks. I'm on Fantastic Four new trailer watch right now. I do think today is April 4th, the fourth month of the calendar year and the fourth day of the fourth month of the calendar year. So,
00:00:54
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I feel like it kind of makes sense that there should be a trailer today. So I'm on actively on Twitter just seeing if there's a trailer dropping because if it does, we're going to discuss it. Yeah, like mid-through, we're going to be like, guys, ah sorry, hold, please, because we're going to have to go and watch each other then come back and then tell you exactly what just happened. Imagine, that would be really cool, though. I will say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It might happen. It might happen. It might happen. We're crossing our fingers. They did drop a poster, and Ronnie said they did drop some stills as well. So according to you, those are signs. Those are signs of a trailer dropping. Yeah. And come on, Mel. It's April 4th, the fourth month in the fourth day Of said month. It's fantastic for four. Yeah. Like if they don't, if they don't drop a trailer, it's a huge service. You're dropping the ball if they don't do it.
00:01:39
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They're dropping. Editing melody here. They in fact never did release that trailer. Marvel, you dropped the ball. My God. Okay. Back to the podcast. Yeah. And
Avengers Doomsday Cast Reveal: Critiques and Success
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I feel like probably people would tell them that all over. Yeah.
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ah Yeah, oh heck yeah. Where the hell was the trailer? I don't understand. don't get it. It'd like Star Wars not dropping something on May the 4th. They always drop something. Exactly. And actually for for some good luck for us to get that trailer, I was telling Rod that, i well, you can't see it, but I am wearing a Pedro Pascal shirt that I got at Fan Expo this year. it literally has this Pedro and it's like this photo, like magazine photo of him because we love Pedro Pascal. Very cool shirt. Very cool. very cool um It's one of my favorites. I wear a lot.
00:02:24
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We are going to be talking about the big announcement that just happened this past week. When was it that it happened? When was it was it the that they announced the chairs? When was it?
00:02:35
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This was last Wednesday was it just this Wednesday? It must have been last Wednesday. This was last... um It was last week. It was last Wednesday. So this was on the 26th and what basically happened and some people were into it. Some people were not, was it was like an eight hour was like eight hour stream where they dramatically, I think it was, I think it was about, oh no, it was, oh, actually what I'm reading here is actually it was a course over five and a half hours.
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of them just slowly revealing chair after chair after chair of people, the cast that is going to be in Avengers Doomsday.
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But it was just incredibly slow. Like the fact that they would show a chair and then it was like, it was like on the chair for like, 10 minutes or something and then they would go to the next chair and then they would slowly put in I believe it was like the theme to that character's you know character yeah character fromirs yeah or yeah you know more movie universe they're in their movie universe like theme right so when they announced like Loki right you heard the Loki music and it got people kind of intrigued like oh my god who are they going to announce from this world
00:03:50
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So then they just slowly did that and they released, I believe it was 25 people, 25 ish. people twenty five ish characters actors that are going to be in avengers doomsday obviously culminating with uh dr doom which is robert downey jr uh but yeah it was very suspensfully revealed and i don't know right what were your thoughts on this i i know you kind of were the one who told me i didn't even know this was going on yeah and you kind of and i was like wait what i was like what are you talking about so weird and then all of a sudden you're like
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This is so tacky. This is so whack. And I'm like, was what is he talking about? And then I looked it up and I was like, I had no idea this was even happening. Yeah. Everybody, everybody collectively on social media was like, what the hell is this?
00:04:42
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Okay. This is the reveal. And there was a lot of people that were excited because, you know, you know, why not? You know, it's Avengers is doomsday is Dr. Doom. So it's very exciting. You know, anytime you drop anything Avengers related,
00:04:54
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But I don't know. I feel like the way it was revealed, it was very corny. Very just like I said, it was whack. Because you're like, you're trying to like, I understand what Disney was trying to do. They wanted to get the the movie trending.
00:05:11
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And they did for the most part. They got it trending. Oh, they? But they got it trending in a way where I feel like it's kind of cheating. Because it's like, okay, yeah, you're
Marvel's Direction and Challenges Post-Endgame
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dropping. You're just dragging out this announcement.
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And I don't know. yeah I think you're naturally going to get things trending if you do it that way. I mean, it's it's kind of obvious. And I just, I don't think the optics are great for it. I'll be honest with you. Because I feel like more people were ridiculing it and making fun of it than they were, like, talking about the names.
00:05:40
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Because they literally, I was watching various streams of different people who are into this sort of stuff, entertainment industry, and people that are into, like, comic book stuff. And they were literally just saying, like, this is going to take forever.
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And then you found out from insiders that said, oh, it's going to be like 20 plus names. And people were like, wait a minute. So every 12 minutes, you're going to drop this. And we have to wait every 12 minutes for a new name.
00:06:04
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And it's just like. Why was it after every 12 minutes? Because I didn't watch it. So what was going on within the 12 minutes? Nothing. It would stop. You were just staring at a chair? At a chair. and then it was So it would go from, let's say, Chris Hemsworth, 12 minutes, Vanessa Kirby.
00:06:22
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12 minutes. Anthony Mackie. so It was that. And it's just... And you see you see how you're reacting? That's how I felt about it. I'm like, i'm like what are we doing here? Like, what are what exactly are we doing here? There's better ways of doing... because Someone on Twitter said they could have just dropped this as like ah as an email.
00:06:40
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Well, yeah, I heard that. But what the worst part to me was is like you did a five and a half hour stream and then you went and dropped a one minute quickie of everything you just saw. Did you see that?
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I saw that. They released it like literally afterwards. They're like, okay, here's a one minute and 30 minute version of this. I'm like, so why didn't we just do this? Like, why were you having me here? be honest. That would have been It would have been much better if we just got the one minute because it still would have been like, oh, my God. And I bet it would have trended all day. It would have trended all day It still would have had all the amount of people watching. It's like Avengers. People are going to clamor to Avengers. Avengers is a name is the namesake now, like Harry Potter, like...
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you know Lord of the Rings, like James Bond. Anytime you hear Avengers, you're just like, okay, you got my attention. It's going to trend no matter what. So if you would have dropped a one minute, 30 second um version of what they did, I think it would have hit much better.
00:07:42
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I think it would have got people more excited. But I feel like what they did was they just, like it's almost like they're kind of, they make, they made, they made fun of themselves in a way where it's like, oh, you know, we're, we're so big. We have so many actors. We have to do it this way. And it's like, you, you really don't.
00:07:58
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And, and that one minute, 30 second trailer thing that they released with the same thing showed you, no, we could have done it like this. It could have been much better. The message would have been released. true And, you know, the same effect. It wouldn't have really changed that much.
00:08:12
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yeah Now, granted, this did become, Marvel's biggest live stream ever. um It grew like hour over hour because people started being like, wait, what's going on? Kind of like when you told me, like this is going on. People go sit, people leave, coming back.
00:08:27
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But supposedly they drew 275 million digital views and generated 3.1 million social mentions.
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And after 24 hours, basically it was number two trending video on YouTube. So, that bes That begs us to think, so no matter how much we complain about Marvel and not doing this right and all the movies have sucked and they're not doing this right, this is bad, blah, blah, blah, people still tuned in.
00:08:59
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So it makes you think it's like, oh, fine, then I guess Marvel still does have this weird chokehold on us as a society no matter how many times we are saying that oh this is bad or oh i'm over the superhero thing but yet people tuned in they watched some people watched for five and a half hours and yeah they were annoyed but if they didn't care about what marvel was going to release they wouldn't have watched it it wouldn't have that many streams and it makes you think you're like okay so i guess i do still really care about what's what's
00:09:31
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What's going to happen in this movie? Even though we were all kind of like, at first, like, oh, Robert Downey Jr., Doom, like, what does this mean? don't know.
00:09:42
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I still think there's, you can trend, and and this is this is the this city t this is the issue here. I feel like Marvel, MCU, Kevin Feige, you know, the genius behind the brand of MCU, Marvel Studios, Cinematic Universe,
00:10:01
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you know, you're you're you're still the big kid on the block. You know, you you you are, you are you in terms of when it comes to Hollywood, you're the big kid on the block. And this, to me, cried like pick-me energy. yeah I learned that from my niece. Shout out to my niece, Camila. She's schooling me at all. Oh, I know the pick-me energy. Bro, that's pick-me energy. I'm sorry, that's pick-me energy, 100%. Oh, okay. Yeah, because you're Marvel.
00:10:26
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should and You don't need to do this. We know who you are. Avengers? Come on, Mel. I just literally just told you, Avengers is up there. When you hear the name Avengers, it's up there with...
00:10:40
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Harry Potter. It's up there with Lord of the Rings. It's up there with James Bond. It's up there with Star Wars. And I'm just talking about Avengers. I'm not talking about MCU. I'm talking about Avengers. That's a lightning rod because that's going to call people in. It's not like a regular Marvel movie. This isn't like, you know, Thunderbolts or something like that. No, this is Avengers. This is literally an all-star game.
00:10:57
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this is an um This is an all-star game. It's an all-star movie with all-star characters. So you're going to get people's attention no matter what. But to drag it out this way, I'm sorry, it's pick me energy.
00:11:08
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It's literally pick me energy. It's like, oh, look at me. I have this, this, and this. You're Avengers. You should have this, this, and this. it's Come on. It's literally obvious.
00:11:19
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So now you're out there. you You have this neon sign saying, look at me. I've been doing this for five hours. i don't know. yeah i and I heard everything you said. And yes, and you're right. A lot of people tuned in.
00:11:30
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But I still think the optics weren't good. i don't think the optics were great. I don't. I really, really, really don't. And I'll be honest with you. I'll take it a step further. i I'm worried. I'm worried about this movie.
00:11:43
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Is it going to do well? Of course it's going to do well. I could tell you, Mel, I can literally tell you right now. Well, today's April 2025. I can literally tell you right now when this movie drops, this movie will be number one movie on the weekend and it'll make over $200 million. dollars I'll tell you that right now.
00:11:58
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And it won't. i can I can literally, I could say that with the confidence of me saying the sun's coming up tomorrow. That's how confident I could say Because it's obvious. It's obvious. It's literally obvious because people are going to go see this movie. It's it's it's too much ingrained. It's Avengers.
00:12:15
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And then add to the fact that you got Robert Downey Jr. coming back.
Expectations and Speculation for Avengers Doomsday
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Granted, he's not playing Iron Man. He's playing dr Doom, who's a major villain in the Marvel Universe. And he's the first iteration. I still have my...
00:12:29
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like I'm still kind of iffy on that as well. Everyone's great. But it's still Robert Downey Jr. And that's a name that is synonymous with the Marvel Cinematic Universe because he's literally the grandfather of that universe. universe He is. So people are going to tune in.
00:12:45
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So I don't want to hear this whole thing of like, oh yeah, people are still interested. Of course they're interested. they were They were going to be interested no matter what. It's Avengers and it's literally an all-star team of of of different characters.
00:12:56
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So... yeah yeah I'm sorry, miss me with that. Miss me with that hole that whole diagram, that whole thing. um' im i'm not I'm not impressed. I'll put it like that. I'm not impressed.
00:13:07
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You're not impressed at all. No, I'm not. Because if you would have told me this was something if you told me this was something else other than Avengers, like you would have told me, oh, they did this with Thunderbolts. and there' ah I would have been impressed. i' like, oh, wow. but So Thunderbolts has some, like, people really want to see Thunderbolts. They're doing this with Thunderbolts, and people tuned in to do something to see. That's impressive, because to me, that's like, okay, you you got you know Kevin Feige? Smart, man. I give you your flowers. That was that was to get to get this type of, do this type of rollout for this movie and get that kind of reaction?
00:13:35
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That says something. But eventually, come on, man. Nah, nah. Pick me energy, dude. Pick me energy. That's a good way. didn't even think about that, but that's true. That's a good way of thinking about it. That is true. They did really kind of give that vibe because they didn't really need to do it. And a lot of people, I don't know. Do you, um have you seen, um or you listen to Heroes Reforged?
00:13:56
Speaker
No. No, you don't listen to that to to to them. They have a YouTube and they also have a podcast. it's like I've heard of them, but I haven't listened to them. Oh, they're great. I was listening. They had a panel like where you know they have a podcast episode where they kind of talked about this. and One of them said something that really stuck with me and I was like,
00:14:13
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oh my god, but he's right. He said he was like really pissed about it. Kind of like you. He was like, this I did not like it. I hated it. And he's like, I look at this screen and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
00:14:26
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like You just have all of these names of all of these characters and in your mind, and this kind of goes into like what these characters, like who these actors are and who they're bringing back. Why are they bringing back these characters?
00:14:38
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To me, I agree with him because it's like you are looking at all these names, but you're like, what the fuck does this even like? What is this movie about? What does this mean? Who? Why are these people in this movie?
00:14:49
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Where are we going? Like it you're looking at it and it doesn't make any sense. Right. Because you have all of these characters from Thunderbolts. You have Fantastic like Four. You've got the only person we have there that is like or one of those the oldest people from his is Chris Hemsworth.
00:15:07
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who's going to be returning his score. He's the only OG from like one. That's playing the original character because technically Robert Downey Jr. is OG, but he's not playing Tony Stark. And then you have Anthony Mackie who has been in it for a while, but now he's Captain America.
00:15:21
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You have Sebastian Stan who was Winter Soldier, but I guess he's not Winter Soldier now. He's Bucky. Supposedly in Thunderbolts, he's like a senator or something. I don't fucking know. We'll find out, I guess. um Because I still haven't seen... um um to Captain America. Brave New World. Yeah, I still haven't seen it. I think it's going to be streaming here soon on um Disney+, so I'm going to watch it.
00:15:41
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But, you know, so I don't know what happens in that movie, but I think someone said that Sebastian Stan is, like, in politics or something. I'm like, okay, this is weird. So you you look at this cast list, and then then you have, like, random people from movies we haven't seen in years.
00:15:58
Speaker
Like, you've got freaking Namor in it. You've got Shang-Chi. You have... um Oh, and obviously you've got... um the the OG X-Men and you're wondering why are the OG X-Men here? Some people were pissed about the OG X-Men part because they were like, these guys are like fucking 90.
00:16:19
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Like, what? well What are they going to be bringing to this movie? What is the point of bringing back Alan Cumming, Rebecca Romijn, like what James Marsden, right? A lot of people were happy about the James Marsden because they feel like he's always kind of gotten the...
00:16:36
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Short end of the stick. Yeah. So they're like hoping that this will be like a redemption for him. But I'm literally wondering like, what is this? Like, what do you think? Like, what do you think this movie is going to be about? Because we have had since Endgame.
00:16:53
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How many movies? I can't... Six? I've lost count. I've lost count. yeah But none of these movies have told me that we are going to meet Doom.
00:17:05
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Just how, you know, the first couple phases, we knew at some point Thanos was going to be a thing, right? We're getting to a big baddie, and I have no idea how we're getting here. How does Shang-Chi have anything to do with this?
00:17:19
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How does... um the characters from Black Panther 2 have to do with this? Leticia Wright, what's his name? The guy who plays Namor, Tanu. Yeah. yeah like what What is this?
00:17:36
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like I'm looking at this, I'm looking at it, and I'm fucking like, what is why this? is what yeah This is why i'm I've... i For a long time, after Endgame, I just i just said...
00:17:51
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You know what? It's going to be interesting to see where they go from here. And it's crazy because... Well, they option but I you know, it kind of went out the window with the Avengers thing of all.
00:18:03
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Yeah, but even that, though. Even that. But you know what? Regardless of the fact, i i um I worry about the MCU in terms of its quality.
00:18:15
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And, you know, Kevin Feige... Again, the genius that he is with the first chapter, the first book of the MCU, he was limited in the the ah toys he had in the sandbox.
00:18:26
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me the cow Yeah, i remember. And when you have that sort of thing, and it it challenges you, but it challenges you in a good way. It makes you tell better story, more cohesive stories because you know, okay, i only have these characters to tell these stories, so let's focus on this.
00:18:42
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What ended up happening is they ended up getting access to more characters once they got and purchased Fox Studios. And now they have all these toys in the sandbox, and Kevin Feige is like the rich kid that has all the toys.
00:18:57
Speaker
He doesn't know... who to play with, how to play with them, when to play with them, and how to play with them together. He doesn't. I really don't think he does. I think he's in a situation where there's probably too many chefs in the kitchen regards to all these characters and too many chefs in the kitchen in regards to all these actors.
00:19:16
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I mean, look at all these names. This is the biggest Avengers movie we'll have ever. Because even they leave with end gameme even Endgame or or Infinity War, this is just there's more actors are going to be in this movie. There's going to be a lot more that we do not know about.
00:19:32
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Because you mean to tell me Robert Downey Jr. is the only villain there? you know Granted, you have Ian McKellen, who's playing Magneto, who's quote-unquote a bad guy. There's going to be other bad guys there. There's got to be. So those are ah there are more names that and that are not on this list. So this is like a jam-packed movie.
00:19:49
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And this is one movie
Emotional Impact of Media: High School Musical 3 and The Pit
00:19:50
Speaker
we're doing because the what's the other Avengers that's going to come out? Secret Wars. Secret Wars. So is this going to correlate into Secret Wars in a way?
00:19:59
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Is Secret Wars like a part two two to this? Yeah. So this is where we're this is where we're headed at. And I don't know if they have enough movie to tell all these stories without cutting off a few things.
00:20:13
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Granted, some of these actors I'm looking, they may not be in the movie for very long. you know but like But where I get annoyed because it's like you have so many actors in it that you're like, okay, so what? it Is Patrick Stewart going to be here for fucking five seconds and then he's gone? He probably might be. like He didn't. like He like happened in Doctor Strange. I mean, we don't we we don't know. But again, Patrick Stewart is a name.
00:20:37
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They needed a name for a chair, and he's a big name. Patrick Stewart, is a he's um he's a he's a very respected... prominent actor who's played important characters. You know, most all these actors here have played prominent characters within the Marvel universe, whether it's MCU or Fox's Marvel.
00:20:52
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So, you know, i'm I'm worried about where they're going with this. What is this story going to be about? And you, Mel, you made a great and excellent point. If you are a MCU fan or not even an MCU fan, you can be a cinematic ah popcorn popcorn blockbuster fan that has watched summer movies. You've been accustomed through watching from Iron Man 1 all the way through.
00:21:16
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You've been accustomed to knowing, okay, there's there's more to this story. This is this is a small story within a larger story. Since Endgame, we have not gotten that. It's been very much like, oh, this is its own movie. This is its own movie.
00:21:30
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And they've tried, like you said, with the whole Kang thing to try to make it a thing. And then the whole Kang thing kind of went to poof. But I honestly don't believe that.
00:21:41
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because You don't believe that? You think that Kang is still a thing? take No, no not that not that he's still a thing. But ah they could have they could have easily recast Kang and put another actor. That's not that hard to do.
00:21:55
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They've done it before. They recast Rhodey. Remember, it was Taylor Towers and they made Don Cheadle. They could have recast the role. It doesn't really matter at this point. They could have done that. That's why I'm a little worried about what's going on behind the scenes, man. Like, I don't know. i i think I think Kevin Feige is in a tough place because he has to now he has to now prove...
00:22:18
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um I can do this again. i can i did one book. I could do another book of Marvel. He has to prove it again. It's not going well. it's not going well. He hasn't had a string of movies that lead up to this excitement. And again, I'm not saying that this movie is going to have excitement. I called it already.
00:22:33
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This movie, April 4th, 2020, is going to be the number one movie of the year. It's going to be the number one movie um that weekend, and it's going to make well over $200 million dollars that weekend. i can i can I can almost guarantee it as as as much as, like I can said, the sunrise is tomorrow.
00:22:47
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Yeah. that's That's for certain. But is it going to hit the same? I don't know. And right now I'm leaning towards no no. Because everything I have seen before this has led me to say that.
00:23:01
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We can sit here and talk about what Marvel movies are popular, and what weren't, that they made money. You know, you can sit here and say, oh, well, Spider-Man No Way Home is, after Endgame, was one of the biggest movies in general to come out.
00:23:15
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Yeah. Way Home cheated. You know how it cheated? It had nostalgia built into it. yeah Nostalgia is what pushed that movie towards the thing. I'm not saying that it was a bad movie, but let's be 100% real. Because we here we talk we're being realistic.
00:23:31
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If that movie did not have any of the nostalgic aspects from the prior movies, from the prior universes, I think that movie would have fell flat. I think it would have been very lame and very bland.
00:23:43
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guess it would have been a completely different movie. because it and would have been ne It would have been. that would That was the whole point, was that t the whole the multiverse, right? Yeah. Which I think, and and sorry to cut you off on that, I feel like that leads into something else about people saying that I think a lot of people were are over the multiverse thing, right?
00:24:04
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I think after the whole do but Doctor Strange movie, like I feel like people were kind of just like, What like what is this like I know I think people are over the multiverse thing and I think bringing in.
00:24:18
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um Doom might be a way of kind of like okay let's kind of. Move that to the side kind of thing I think I don't really know a lot about doom to be honest as a villain I don't know what I someone says he just takes power or something from people.
00:24:33
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I'm not familiar with him either. I'll be honest with you. not familiar with him either. I'm not very familiar with... ah We should get our cousin Angel in here. Angel would tell us. Angel would know. like you know like but I don't know much about him. and I feel like I'm looking forward to learning a little bit more. because Yeah, and that's excitement. He's one of those villains that I'm like, I don't know anything about you. Especially because they were, I think, really pushing the Kang thing. Especially with the Sholoki, right?
00:24:57
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yeah And... and and and And I feel like Loki was the only thing that was kind of connecting things was Loki because that's when you were starting to learn who Kang was. He was technically introduced at the end of season one, and right? As he who must he who remains, right? And then in the second season, it was like about meeting all these different future Kangs or what's his o his actual name?
00:25:22
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Victor Timely. Victor Timely. Which, you know, aside from all of, you know, Jonathan Major's outside thing, I think he was fantastic in that role. I think he was... I really liked him in that show. Yeah. think he's a fantastic actor. He is, he is. Aside from all the other side stuff, right? just gotta separate that.
00:25:38
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But, like, you know, it's... I felt like that show was the only thing that was kind of cohesive. But, you know, when we're talking about, you know, things connecting, right?
00:25:50
Speaker
Simu Liu is in this movie. Shang-Chi came out in 2021. It's been a while. This movie is going to come out in 2026, and we have not heard or seen him in anything Marvel-related. Do you remember what the post-credits scene was for Shang-Chi? It was like meeting... um What's his name?
00:26:13
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Um... Oh my God. From Doctor Strange, the Asian guy. Wong? Wong. Remember, he comes in and he's just like, oh, there's a beacon and there's like this thing lighting up and they're like, what's that? And then it ends.
00:26:25
Speaker
We have never in those four years still don't know what the hell this beacon thing was. What is this? Eternals. We're never going to know.
00:26:36
Speaker
We're never going know. Eternals. yeah, please. I want to know. that i Yes, go ahead. Go with this one, please. Eternals. Eternals. Who, by the way, Eternals, who, by the way, none of those actors are featured in this.
00:26:49
Speaker
That movie doesn't exist in their world. It doesn't exist. It's like Eternals didn't have it. say, no, it does exist. It does. It does exist. Because Galactus. Well, and then the the Celestial thing. Yeah, right. Yeah, Which I think is connected to Fantastic Four. I think isn't Galactus in it or something. Well, can I give you i'm um i'm gonna can i give you a slight spoiler for Captain America a Brave New World on something?
00:27:11
Speaker
Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. Okay. So one thing I liked about Captain America Brave New World is that they actually acknowledged the celestial thing that was left from. Oh, they did. Okay. Yes. It's in the trailers. It's in the trailers. So it's not really a spoiler. Okay.
00:27:25
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But I kind of predicted this was going to happen. um They said, get ready, Mel. They said, oh, well, the celestial thing, it hardened and it became a brand new metal.
00:27:38
Speaker
What do you think that metal is, Mel? What do you think that metal is? What metal is really important and crucial and in the Marvel world? Oh, it's the shield. Adamantium. Yeah. No, not vibranium.
00:27:52
Speaker
Adamantium. Wolverine. That's where that metal came from that world. Oh, you think it's... Oh. No, not I think. They said it. They said it in the movie. though There's a metal called Adamantium. They said it in the movie. Not I think.
00:28:05
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They said it. so Oh. You see them kind of planting the seeds of, okay, this is in this world with Anthony Mackie's Captain America.
00:28:16
Speaker
This is where the start of what eventually go go into Wolverine's body or whatever. Interesting. Yeah. But go back to Eternals. Yeah, so then Eternals, right? You have that. And then you had, which I know Rodney knows what I'm going to they had this post-credits where it was like,
00:28:36
Speaker
whatever. It's Kit Harington. Kit Harington's character. I'm going call Jon Snow. I said Jon Snow. No, can say Jon Snow because most people know him as Jon Snow. They do. Jon Snow's up in here and he's just like in his room. He gets the sword then you hear voice.
00:28:50
Speaker
You hear a voice and people are like, oh my god, that's Blade. That's, so what's his name? Marshall Ali. Marshall Ali. And ah yeah, here we are about what, five, four four years later and haven't heard a word.
00:29:05
Speaker
Well, ill I'll give you one worse. Mahershala Ali was cast as Blade in 2019. Mel, what year are we in? 2025. Mahershala Ali's Blade is the new Black Adam.
00:29:22
Speaker
Because let me tell you something. Black Adam, when The Rock was given that role a long time ago, and it took forever for that movie to be made. Mahershala Ali is the new Black Adam. ah Not the character. just I'm just giving you like the context of what he is. That's what he I've been saying it for a while now.
00:29:40
Speaker
I don't think that movie's going to get made. I don't think Blade's going to get made. I don't. Listen, you mean to tell me you mean to tell me that you have an actor who's had a role for this long. You have not had us you have not had a... Well, no. They've had directors, but the directors left because of creative differences.
00:29:58
Speaker
Right? And you mean to tell me this person's here waiting on the sidelines. Kevin Feige, you mean to tell me Kevin Feige could have said like, yo, let's put in Blade. Let's do Blade. Like that's that's ah that's a prominent character.
00:30:10
Speaker
To the point where Ryan Gosling, not Ryan Gosling, Jesus. um Ryan Reynolds said, no, I want Blade, but I'm having Wesley come in as Blade. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, shoot. Like, this is... and that And then in that movie, in that movie, you have Wesley Snipes play saying, there's only going ever be one blade. I'm like, oh, my my God. That's just you throwing your dick on the table. Like, listen, bro, let's measure this because you it ain't bigger than me. You know what I'm saying?
00:30:37
Speaker
So this is where we're at with this. And I don't know. I felt like, I'm like, damn, they put that line in there. Don't they know Mahershala Ali's, like, but he was cast his blade and y'all put that. Kevin Feige okayed that? That's then like basically confirming that there is never going... like It's not happening.
00:30:53
Speaker
If I'm Mahershala Ali and I hear that and I know I've been giving that character, I'm knocking on the door like...
00:31:01
Speaker
I'm out. Peace. Yeah. No, because you're just... You're poo-pooing who I am and this character that was bestowed upon me. You know what I'm saying? Like, i I didn't... Like, that's that's that is that is craziness right there.
00:31:15
Speaker
That's like... um How can I say... That's like Tom Holland coming in and saying like, oh, there's only going to be one Spider-Man and that's me. Yeah. Really? So yeah, that whole thing.
00:31:27
Speaker
See, but you say, but wait, let me let me let me give further context on my thing with Blade. I don't think there's going to be a Blade movie yet. I think what we're going to get is Blade the character in a movie.
00:31:42
Speaker
We'll get him either. Maybe we might get him in Doomsday. maybe Maybe he might be one of those names. Or maybe we'll get him in Secret War. There has been rumors that Marvel wants to do a ah movie based off of a comic book group called Midnight Suns.
00:31:54
Speaker
Which actually pretty cool. Which is up Blade. It's Ghost Rider. I think it's Moon Knight. It's a lot of their like um yeah they um this creature type it's It's one of their creature type, ah you know, like a scary kind of thing.
00:32:08
Speaker
I think they want to do that. It hasn't been officially announced. Maybe in Comic-Con we'll get an announcement, but I heard that that's something that they want to do. But I think we get Blade on the silver screen, but I don't know if we're going to get a movie for Blade, a solo movie, anytime soon. i think I think with a lot of these characters, what we might get is is a lot of these guys coming in and in group films, maybe not solo things. Oh. Because maybe maybe Disney, I'm sorry, not Disney, MCU wants to maybe kind of condense things. I think they kind of look at the scene, the writing on the one, they're like, yeah, maybe we maybe we shouldn't give a solo movie to everybody. Maybe we should just put them as a group, make a team thing.
00:32:48
Speaker
And maybe that will be better for fans to come in and watch these films. I don't know. um I'm best. That's where I'm at Cause I mean, and then that, that, that brings me thinking about the, the cast list as a whole, as we were seeing, right. yeah Because there were so many people in there that were like, okay, well that's weird that that's, these people are missing. Right. And someone made a joke and they're like, these are the only people that have secured their contracts. That's why they haven't announced the other people because everybody else is still like working. Like how we were talking about before this, Halle Berry said, she's not coming back.
00:33:19
Speaker
um Elizabeth Olsen says she's not coming back. And I'm like, how are you going to tell me that Scarlet Witch isn't back? She's like one of the most powerful people in the MCU. And don't tell me she died at the end of freaking Dr. She died off screen. If I didn't see your body, you ain't dead.
00:33:42
Speaker
Mm hmm. So people are like, you know, saying that, you know, a lot of these actors, you know, they're they're really good at lying, as we know. and lot of that they're going to deny, deny, deny. I think there's this one worth um with James Marsden just recently at the Sonic. Have you seen it I haven't seen it, but I've heard about Oh, it's funny. the Sonic Hedgehog premiere or whatever, and they're like, oh, so I heard you're in Doomsday. And he's like, yeah, no, there's no way. Or something like that. And then it shows the chair with his name on it. And I'm like, these actors, they know what they're doing. They know they have to deny, deny, deny.
00:34:14
Speaker
Just like Andrew Garfield denied that till the end that he was not in Spider-Man. And there he was. added full on It wasn't just a cameo. He was full on in this movie.
00:34:26
Speaker
Man, Mel, I'm um'm excited about this movie for the aspect of it being an Avengers movie, um but I'm worried for everything else. I'm literally worried for everything else.
00:34:38
Speaker
One thing is, do you think that a lot of these people, like the X-Men, all these original characters, do you think that these people are going to be snapped away? Like, they're dead after this.
00:34:54
Speaker
Or do you think That they have a greater purpose. A lot of people are thinking that a lot of this original X-Men cast is going to be killed in the first like five minutes of this movie.
00:35:05
Speaker
Because you have to think about it. If you are going to have, let's say, even more, let's say there's about 15 other actors, there's just absolutely no way you can have all these people. People got to go in order to make room for the new people.
00:35:18
Speaker
So a lot of people are thinking that this is going to be their way, kind of like you know how Deadpool... And Wolverine did it where they had their moment to come back and then they were they were retired, you know, with Elektra and Blade, like these characters, aside from Channing Tatum, who was also on this, which was a nice surprise. I really am intrigued to see how he plays in this.
00:35:37
Speaker
But like um a lot of people are thinking that out of all of the characters that we're seeing here, They're the only ones that don't seem to have really any connection to anybody else, which makes it easier for you to be able to be like, let's bring them back for the nostalgic purposes, for whatever purpose it is. And Doom probably snaps them. They're dead. Bye bye.
00:36:00
Speaker
And then it has room for the new people that are coming, the new X-Men, the whatever it is, because you're going to have Ian McKellen literally doing this till 105. guy's like 90.
00:36:11
Speaker
like ninety He can't be doing this for forever. Patrick Stewart. They're going to have Hugh Jackman do it until he's 90. Well, that's the joke, right? But, you know, like a lot of these actors... it a joke? No. Is it a joke? No, that's not a joke.
00:36:24
Speaker
Until you're 90. That was a great. I got to give Ryan Reynolds props for that line it's hilarious. Some people are thinking Ant-Man... Because think about this too. Think about this too.
00:36:36
Speaker
A lot of these actors, and we talked about it the beginning, have that 10-year contract. You got to do 10 movies. And after that, you can... You can bow out. Ant-Man is one of those characters came a little bit later, but he's reaching that contract where he could be like, all right, it's in 10 movies.
00:36:51
Speaker
i could I could go out, right? But you got some other newer people. you know You've got like Letitia Wright. You've got um the Florence Pugh. These people are new. These people are new.
00:37:03
Speaker
They've got 10 more movies to do before they're out of here. So to me, I feel like the X-Men characters might have like this is like their... Okay. kind of goodbye We're going to goodbye these people now. but This is my thing, man. this is And this is where... think know what you're saying. This is where MCU's past is going to come back and haunt them and bite them.
00:37:25
Speaker
How serious am I supposed to take people dying in these movies? Well, as long as Black Widow doesn't come back. When you've done it so many times. You've done it so many times. Like, just think about it for a second. you You just literally said to yourself, we've seen Patrick Stewart die four times.
00:37:40
Speaker
Just think about that. How am I... Like, are there... Me as an audience member, I like when there's stakes. Yeah, yeah. What is the stakes here? you know, like, oh, Patrick Stewart died again.
00:37:53
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:55
Speaker
Too bad. You know, like, there's no stakes here. And... There has to be more, Mel. I'm sorry. There has to be more than he kills them off. There has to be something greater than that because we did this already.
00:38:09
Speaker
We did this with Thanos. So... there has to be There has to be something more... to what's going on i think i really do think that this there has to be a level a different level to whatever the heck doom's you know plan theory is our plan is on what he wants to do which we don't know anything about it's exactly a big and that's why that's why And this goes back to what we were talking about at beginning. Marvel conditioned their audience to know what's happening, what where we're going.
00:38:43
Speaker
And they did a piss poor job of doing that to the point where they're going to have to, maybe in Fantastic Four there's some sort of explanation as to what's going on. They have to.
00:38:54
Speaker
Because Fantastic Four the only movie, right? After Fantastic Four, there's no other movie. Oh, you know no, no. no Because that's not the way. Thunderbolts. i don't i just I don't see. du ah Where does Thunderbolts connect in all this? Supposedly it does.
00:39:08
Speaker
Supposedly Thunderbolts. and el that and And people were upset about that, actually, because they were like, okay, so you're telling me that, okay, so all these people are going to be alive then. Because all the characters, except for task mask Taskmaster, is are in Doomsday.
00:39:24
Speaker
So they basically ruined it for everyone because you could have watched Thunderbolts being like, oh, there might be stakes. They could die. Who might die? Right? Well, now there's... No, okay, everyone lives. So what are the stakes in that movie?
00:39:35
Speaker
Right? Because they... Let's say there is a moment where you think someone's in peril you're like, oh, no, they're not dying because they're in doomsday. You know, because they were they announced that. So it's kind of like, oh, well, they kind of shot themselves on foot because if there are any stakes as to if any Thunderbolts die, clearly they don't because they're all in...
00:39:53
Speaker
Except for Taskmaster. So if Taskmaster dies, then we're like, okay, well, unless they're keeping it secret, whatever the hell it is, right? There's so many things that they could be doing, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah. again There's <unk> more chairs, there's more names to be added. So I think there's a little bit more to that.
00:40:09
Speaker
I honestly don't know. It has to connect. It has to connect to Avengers 2. It has to. Even if it's like a post-preddit scene. They're in the movie, right? so yeah sort of Yeah, and they have said that that it it directly connects to it. And I i think and from what I hear, I think in the comics, they're very...
00:40:27
Speaker
yeah Oh, yeah, that's that's their Dr. Doom is is is is a big bad for for. Was it in fantastic in the old fantastic movie? Wasn't it a doctor? Yeah, right. Yeah, the first one in the first one. Right. Yeah, he's he's a villain. Watch that just for fun. haven't seen that movie in so long. It's been so long. Yeah, I'm excited because it's an Avengers movie.
00:40:46
Speaker
Anybody should be excited. it's an Avengers movie. You know, it's an event film, but I worry about it, too. I worry about what is this movie about. And I worry about the last, I want to say the last ah eight years of of what Marvel has been.
00:41:02
Speaker
And they have not given me any hope whatsoever. and to say that this movie is going to be any good just because, oh yeah, well, the Roosters are directing it and Robert Downey Jr. is back playing a different character.
00:41:13
Speaker
And we have an all-star team of characters that are going to be in this movie. And we're going have some sprinkled in nostalgia too. I'm just, you know, I'm like, listen, i need a little bit more because you can nostalgia bait me all you want.
00:41:26
Speaker
Nostalgia can only cover up a mess for so long, you know, and and that's one thing that I think Disney movies, I keep saying Disney, MCU movies have done recently, is they've they've really tried to bait the nostalgia aspect into it and put it in.
00:41:40
Speaker
Deadpool and Wolverine was a very fun movie, very good movie, but it relied a lot on nostalgia, a lot. And if you take the nostalgia aspect out of it, what kind of movie do we really have there?
00:41:53
Speaker
Spider-Man, A No Way Home, same thing. It's like... yeah and and And I like the fact that they're acknowledging the history of these characters. There's nothing wrong with that. But when you make it the focal point of your movies, and that's the driving point of bringing people to see, to watch these films and stuff, that only works for so long before people say like, hey, you know, I've seen this movie now a few times and it's not hitting me the same.
00:42:16
Speaker
Why is it not hitting you the same? Because it's the nostalgic aspect of it. It's not it's not it's not hitting you the first time that you that you watched it. You know, when you watch it again more and more times, you start to see the little cracks.
00:42:27
Speaker
Yeah. and Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I remember, you know, I'm not a comic book person, but when the MCU was happening, right, in that time, to me, never was like somebody who was like looking to the future, right? To me, I was just like in the, you know,
00:42:43
Speaker
in the present time like oh okay there's a thor movie okay i don't know who thor is oh there's a captain america movie oh there's this right ah back then i wasn't looking at these movies as a cohesive like oh oh oh oh they're building this up to thanos and there's gonna be a huge thing right like i wasn't watching these movies in that way i was literally just watching them in a oh this year we're getting oh who's guardians of the galaxy i don't know who those people are oh okay and then all of a sudden we make it to You know, the first Avengers movie, Avengers Age of Ultron, then we meet new characters, and then it's Avengers Infinity War, and then now, unfortunately...
00:43:23
Speaker
We have been programmed to now view every phase as, okay, well, this movie has to connect to this one and this one and this one because we have to get to the big bad and then we're going to defeat them and then we're going to go here, here, here, and here. And that's how mentally, like, now, unfortunately, I have been trained to think of the MCU as a whole and then when it's not that, and now we're here and we're already at an Avengers movie and I'm like, but I don't know anything about this villain or about...
00:43:51
Speaker
Why are all these characters in this movie? And how does this person? I'm confused, right? Once we get a trailer, you know, and and they do people will get hype because once you get the trailer, then you're like, oh, OK, they're to make you start feeling things, you know, which is I think right now I don't feel anything.
00:44:09
Speaker
And that is not good. If a movie is not making me feel anything, I'm not feeling excited. Yeah, I'm feeling worried, which is not a good thing. You want to have a good feeling. And I feel like right now, i don't feel anything towards this movie.
00:44:23
Speaker
So I need to feel things. The whole announcement of of Robert Downey Jr. last year is as Dr. Doom, I don't know. It didn't it didn't hit me the way i ah people people ah ah supposedly say, oh oh yeah, I'm sorry. I just i was just like,
00:44:39
Speaker
now i think you're I think you're in the majority. I think most people didn't feel. it just didn't do it for me. And and again, let's see how they work out and how they do it. But... He's a good actor. He's a great actor. Of course he's a great actor. He's a great actor. Oscar winning actor, but God. Couldn't you have gotten somebody else to do this role? You could have gotten somebody else of equal or stronger name than Robert Downey Jr. to do this role.
00:45:03
Speaker
But they're claiming, oh no, this role was made for Robert Downey Jr. I'm sorry. I don't claim that. I don't buy that. I i don't buy it either. I buy they're like, shit, okay, how much money can we throw at this man so that he can be like, okay, fine, I'll do it.
00:45:17
Speaker
Oh, God. That check must have been insane. Oh, my God. Insane. Especially because he's probably signed on for, what, another maybe five? so I don't know. I don't know how to many movies he's going to be in. But, like, another.
00:45:30
Speaker
He's signed his life away for another certain amount of time. I'm assuming he's getting actor credits. He's probably getting some sort of producer credits, too, out of that. He's get some back-end credits. yeah Man, Robert Downey Jr. is is laughing his way to the bank on this one. Yeah. 100%. He's like grabbing a bee, rob that bank with a small spoon. And I have a feeling people going to have some sort of trouble kind of like differentiating. Disconnecting. Wait, aren't you? Yeah, you're disconnecting. Like, wait, you were Iron Man and you died. Wait, you died and you came back to life and became... like that that's gonna be That is going to be a massive kind of
00:46:03
Speaker
take or task for general audiences to accept and go with i'm telling you i hope it's a really good movie i really want it to be a good movie but mel i agree with you i'm concerned that is the main takeaway from today's podcast is that we are concerned and uh that's about it But guys, before we go here, I want to end with this segment that we're going to be doing moving forward where we talk about ah movie ah movie scene or something that we watched. or and It can be anything. It doesn't have to be re-sync. can be just something that pops into our head at the moment or we thought about it, whatever.
00:46:37
Speaker
that um made A scene that made us feel something while we were watching it whether it would have been at the movie theater or when you watched it at home. You still feel it every time you watch it. Mine is going to be very cheesy and very very of my age um but i do have one that i'm thinking about that makes me just it puts me in my field every time i watch it do you want me to say or do you want to go please go ahead no go ahead okay so i'll go first so mine is oh i don't know if you're gonna be able to guess it but it's so cheesy it's um high school musical three ah have you seen any of the high school musicals rod
00:47:13
Speaker
Have you ever seen High School Musical? Probably the first one. You should play for Mackenzie. She watched them already. all she watched Oh, she watch she's watched High School Musical already. Okay, good. She watched them all. She watched the show too. Oh, wow. My God, they're growing up so quick.
00:47:25
Speaker
Mackenzie Ronnie's daughter. ah ah ah But anyway, High School Musical 3, at the end of that movie, they have a big musical number called High School Musical, and it's basically a big culmination of – the three movies, right? And it's talking about how high school music how high school was their best time or and all this stuff. And there's this one part and Kenny Ortega, who's the director of those films, who, brilliant, brilliant guy.
00:47:51
Speaker
um He has this moment where they, I can't believe, I cry every time I watch this. I cried in the movie theater like an idiot watching this because, I felt like I was graduating with these characters and these actors.
00:48:05
Speaker
um But they have like this this curtain that opens up that they come through as the song is like going to finish. And they come through and the curtain opens up.
00:48:18
Speaker
And they sing the song and then it closes and then you see them come through and then the actors jump up in the air like they did in the first movie, which is that big iconic poster of them in front of the curtain jumping up.
00:48:31
Speaker
They all do that. And then they have a moment where they highlight each actor. um looking into the camera like this is this is their last hurrah and that that's whole ending of that movie makes me feel like I want I'm a crying mess because like I just said I feel like I was graduating with these characters themselves I'd been so I'd been seeing them for like the last you know three movies which was like don't five years or so, right? You saw them grow up. Zac Efron, that's where the obsession becamet began, right? You know, Zac Efron, what it represented and and and the singing and the dancing and how I did it in my room all the time. And when it ended,
00:49:15
Speaker
it felt like a part of me died. Like I was like, Oh my God, like there's not going to be anywhere high school musical and they're singing. And the song is just well written and and you really just felt it. I was also like kind of graduating college at the time. So it was, it was very relatable and and I felt so connected to them. and yeah, I just, I feel like anytime I watched that scene, anytime watched that movie, I feel like just,
00:49:44
Speaker
Like almost sad, but it's like a good sad. Like, oh man, it feels so good to watch these movies. i mean, it's a nostalgic thing for you. And it's not nostalgic. It's more of just like, well, it is nostalgic because it's one of those things that you started watching that movie at a particular time in your life and then it ended at a particular time. you Yeah. People.
00:50:00
Speaker
I'm going to share mine. We're going to do this every week. I have one in mind that i was going talk about before, but I'm going to save that for next week. um This week, I'm going to talk about a show. It's from a show. There's a show on Max right now.
00:50:13
Speaker
HBO Max. They call it Max now. called The Pit. Now, The Pit is a hospital show, an ER-type show, but it's not like the show ER, r even though it has one of the actors from ER in it, Noah Wiley, who plays the main character, Dr. Robbie.
00:50:27
Speaker
ah The Pit is pretty much like if you mix the show 24, Keith O'Sutherland, and yeah ER, because it all takes place in one day in a single shift. So right now I'm on hour 15. So this i believe is our I think it's a 16-hour shift.
00:50:41
Speaker
I believe that's what it is because I think the next week's episode is the last episode of the season. It's only one season. So this show starts at the beginning of Dr. Robbie's shift, and it works all the way through. So every episode builds into the next thing. But again, every episode, you don't leave the hospital. You're still in the hospital with these characters. So you see all these different cases come in. Things are happening.
00:51:03
Speaker
So in this episode, we start to, we find out that Dr. Robbie was dealing with something that day, that day when he went to the, into the um spoiler alert, I'm sorry, everybody. But the scene is Dr. Robbie has a breakdown because throughout the whole show, we see him dealing with something that happened to him five years ago.
00:51:24
Speaker
What happened five years ago in this world, the pandemic. He was a doctor in the hospital during the pandemic. And During the pandemic, they they do flashback scenes and it's, you know, my my chin it gets chicken skin because we remember those times. You remember sometimes going ah to the doctors, to the hospitals, and you see these doctors covered up, masked up with helmet with helmets and all these coverings and you see Dr. Robbie in there.
00:51:50
Speaker
And Dr. Robbie, one of his his doctors who trained him, he dies on the table because he had COVID. And Dr. Robbie in the scene, he's just crying. So, so The shift starts on the fifth anniversary of his death, of that doctor's death. So he's dealing with that lot with that PTSD of it.
00:52:08
Speaker
So just to fast forward, so and the quick is there's a mass shooting that happens in this episode. Well, in this in this day of the shift, a mass shooting.
00:52:19
Speaker
So we're waiting to you know we're waiting to see what happens with this. So victims start coming in. It's absolute chaos in the hospital. Oh, not a mass shooting at the hospital. No, just a mass shooting at concert. At a concert a mass shooting. And then they bring in all the victims there.
00:52:34
Speaker
oh You see victims coming in and everything. And the thing is that Dr. Robbie's stepson is at the concert with his girlfriend. ah and Oh, gosh. And throughout the whole episode, you're worried. You're like, God, don't let one of the victims be his Yeah.
00:52:53
Speaker
Oh, God. His stepson. So and what happens is stepson comes in with the girlfriend. Stepson is fine. He's shot, but the girlfriend is like shot in the chest.
00:53:05
Speaker
Dr. Robbie does his best to save her and he doesn't. So the stepson, you know, he wants to see the dot the his girlfriend. He's crying over her, and he's arguing and pleading with Dr. Robbie. Why don't you save her? This is your job. This is what you do, right?
00:53:22
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You know, what the fuck? Why don't you save her? and And you see Dr. Robbie kind of like, you know, hes and that's when you see the the panic attack go off.
00:53:33
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It... he was in the room that the girlfriend, with with the that the body was at, was the same room five years ago where the doctor that trained him died. So in that instant, he looked around the room, he saw the dead body, and then he saw the body girl, and he, the panic attack happened. He he put, he took his steps and I put him like in witch and and dragged him outside and he went into a corner and and started crying.
00:53:58
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It is one of the most visually moving scenes I have ever seen in a TV show. It, is incredible. Unbelievable acting by Noah Wiley, who I think needs to win an Emmy.
00:54:12
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Unbelievable. it was It felt real, Mel. It felt real. i literally felt like this was a camera inside of a hospital and we're watching a real doctor break down because he lost he not only lost a patient, he lost a patient to his stepson in the same room where he lost...
00:54:30
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the doctor that trained him to do everything he's ever done. Yeah. This was all culminating throughout this entire, not day. I mean, not not episode, the entire day. Because remember, every episode is an hour within that. scene Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:42
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It is unbelievable. and and And, you know, you cry, you get teary eyed because we've all been in situations where we lose people.
00:54:54
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In our lives. And we talk about the pandemic and how much that affected everyone around the world. And it's still fresh for many of us. And many of us haven't even recovered from it still in terms of the the the psychological aspect. And here's this character, as a doctor.
00:55:09
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whose job is to save lives, still dealing with the repercussions of this pandemic, but he's still trying to save people. It hit me. It hit me in ways that I can't explain. Highly recommend to me up. probably would really hard. I mean, it was almost, was feeling things just you talking about it. So for sure.
00:55:26
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oh wow. Definitely. Yeah, don't... ah Definitely will be on my list to watch. Sorry to get serious, folks, but it was a scene we're talking about. We're we're talking about I hit you and vulnerability. And that was vulnerable. Yeah, it made you feel things. And that's, you know, that's why <unk>re we're talking here. And it's what TV shows and and movies. It's what is supposed to be doing. I mean, obviously, there's TV shows like reality TV or things that are not supposed to be that. But, you know.
00:55:55
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most TV shows and, and films should make us feel things. And clearly this show made you feel things. Yeah. um So thank you for sharing that.
00:56:06
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Definitely. It's a vulnerable thing to do. Like you said, cause you know, it made you both, both of us feel things, you know, especially yeah with loss and things like that. So yeah, absolutely.
00:56:17
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But anyway, that is going to be the end of today's episode. Guys, thank you so much for listening. If you liked this episode, make sure that you like follow this podcast. We'll be releasing two episodes every month.
00:56:29
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00:56:40
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