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Movie Discussions GALORE! | Jurassic World: Rebirth and Superman
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In today's episode, Melody and Rodney discuss two huge movies of the summer, Jurassic World Rebirth and Superman. They have a quick chat about The Materialists and How to Train your Dragon, since Melody's mic was down in the recording they originally made. They even discuss the state of movie promotions and how it can either fail or make your movie succeed. Melody also has some words for the Emmy Nominators.....
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Introduction to Beyond the Shot Podcast
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Hey guys, welcome to the Beyond the Shot podcast, a podcast hosted by close cousins Melody and Rodney. And on this podcast, we're going to dive into different topics related to movies, TV shows, and the entertainment industry as a whole. Movies are meant to make you feel something, and both of us want to share those feelings with you.
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So tune in to new episodes every other Monday, and thanks so much for listening. And now, into today's episode.
Technical Issues and Frustrations
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Well, hello everyone. We are back. And this time I think my mic is actually set to the right things.
00:00:33
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sure not You sure, Mel? Yeah, i went to the settings. So basically what was going on, and it's something that I just forgot, is because my computer has so many plugs, I had unplugged my mic and then plugged it back in. But when I did that, it obviously changed to the settings on the thing, and I didn't change the settings in our little recording device.
00:00:54
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So, right, for example, when I went now, like, well, before we got on, I went to Dose Check, and right there it said, like, That what was going to be recording was the external mic from my Mac, which is what happened last time. And we had that horrible audio.
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I have never been so sad in my life. I was like, are you when I when I started editing and I heard that I was like, what the fuck is that? I was like, why do I sound so far away? i was livid.
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Livid. That was such a fun episode. And we couldn't even release the other ones that we recorded because it was just like that. And I was just so mad. We'll just say this.
Movie Critiques - Materialists and How to Train Your Dragon
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but um what let's just Let's just recap quick on the other ones.
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um How did you feel about Jurassic Park? I mean, Jurassic World? We didn't talk about that in the other videos. I thought we did. No, this was before that. We talked about the materialists.
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Oh, the materialists. talked about How to Train Your Dragon. That's what it was. Okay, okay, my bad. Those are the ones we missed. But we do have to about Jurassic World as well. but we Yeah, but mar well materialists, I think we both agreed um we were bamboozled.
00:01:55
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Yeah, and we were very we just were very disappointed in what we got in that film. yeah um i i I still think that Chris Evans and Pedro Brasco gave wonderful performances. I've never been a fan of Dakota Johnson.
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But the movie as a whole just... it didn't hit which was sad because i really wanted it to i was really going into this really wanting it to hit i think we all did we wanted that movie to do well was like it was kind of like the only adult you know movie that that came out this so that has come out this summer yeah and we wanted it to hit and it was very very disappointing for a lot of us yes i agree yeah we weren't i agree and then how to train your dragon i think i can speak for the both of us we we loved it we thought it was fantastic a wonderful adaptation that's how you do adaptations and sadly to say it's like it's it's it's done okay it hasn't done as well as i thought it would yeah you said that you were like i think it's gonna be the biggest it would and it wasn't and and the funny thing is lilo and stitch made a billion dollars and then this is not gonna make anything close to that and i'm like what's going on what is wrong
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How was that even possible? Because he had the but Disney people. That's just... but it's wrong It is bad. is but I didn't even see Little and Stitch and I don't really plan on watching it. Oh, no, no man. like It is crazy how that movie has made that much. But I think it is because it is such a popular and famous
Studio Preferences and Promotion Issues
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IP.
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And that's like a really big thing about you know what I've been hearing a lot. And a lot of... you know i think I just... for I think I watched... What's his name? Vince Vaughn was on that show Hot Wings.
00:03:35
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yeah And they were like asking him like why they don't make comedies from the two thousand s anymore. And he himself said it's like it's because it's it's not an IP. it's It's an original idea. And studios don't want to put out movies that don't already have an existing, like, you know, an IP, something that people already know. And they don't want to spend money on original ideas because if it flops, then it doesn't make money.
00:03:59
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And I get that. big studios are and And yeah, you get that. But it's just it's it's just sad because then now we're we're hitting this – point in the entertainment industry where everything is just like ah contain a sequel a remake and nothing seems as original and then that brings me like you know that can you know go into the whole thing that happened with Ilio and how horribly that bombed and then people that crashed and burned so quickly and people and Disney were like blaming us and they're like oh well you guys said you wanted original ideas and no one went and watched this movie well they weren't promoting this movie at all that's exactly and that's where they went wrong though because i'm like we can't blame us you guys didn't promote this at all no one even knew that this was probably even coming out and i'm gonna get into promotion later on for the movie we're reviewing for this podcast yeah um and it's like promotion people underestimate the importance of a rollout and ah and promotion and
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let me Let me preface this by saying this. and i know we I know we talk about movies and we talk about entertainment. I'm going to bring something about music in this real quick. Very little. So there's this um rap duo ah known as The Clips. a two They're two brothers from Virginia.
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And they released an album last Friday um called Let God Sort Him Out. The rollout to this album is as textbook perfection as you can get.
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yet it and like it What they did in promoting the album, going on specific podcasts, on specific things, pushing out the information that that that made people interested in be interested in this album, talk about certain things, talk about certain beefs that they had with other rappers in the rap game. They even had a so really cool session because the person that produced the album was Pharrell. So they had this really cool session where they were in Pharrell's studio.
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And they were pretty much breaking down the album and they were going off stuff. And Pharrell is from from Virginia, just like the clips are. So they were talking about kind of their long history together, working together. That was just one of the aspects that was added to the rollout of this album. And then this album came out and i I'm obsessed with this album. I'm not the only one because it kind of brings rap back to what it was, in my opinion, in the heyday of 90s and 2000s.
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And everybody that has heard the album has said, oh shit, this is what rap is supposed to sound like, not like the crap that we get now, which is just total garbage. And again, just to go back to what we were talking about with the rollout, lot of that was, yes, it was in part due to the album being really good, being really well produced, having amazing lyrics, but it was also the rollout because they went and they said, okay, how are people consuming information and music today?
00:06:50
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Well, a lot of people listen to podcasts. They go on specific shows online. They do certain things to break down the music. They also did, i don't know if you've seen um the famous Tiny Desk concerts,
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that NPR does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did the Tiny Dust um last week too. So it was all a systematic rollout that led to the album being so popular and so well regarded to the point where I put it on my IG. I said, I think personally it is like, it might be the album of the decade in my opinion in terms of how amazing it is.
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Oh, wow. But a lot of it again has to do with rollout and how you put the information out and bringing it back to Ilio. i i I was wondering, like, I'm like, what's what is going on at Pixar and at Disney where the rollout and the lack of promotion for a movie can lead for a freaking Pixar movie to just come out and people not even know? Yeah. Because people didn't even know that this movie was coming out.
00:07:56
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You know, because I've seen Disney promote. We saw them promote Lilo and Stitch. Oh, up the wazoo for months. We saw them promote last year when Inside Out, which is a Pixar movie. They promoted that like crazy. Like, they can promote, but for some reason, I don't know what it was with this film. I don't know. Like, I don't know what the behind the scenes are.
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Was this movie so meant to be a Disney Plus movie? or was this but Which I don't think so, because Pixar doesn't... Disney Plus like that, no. No. They don't, right? So its like that's why i'm like I'm kind of like, like i'm um'm I'm questioning what is going on with that. So it's it's weird, man. like Rollout and promotion is such a crucial thing for movies.
00:08:36
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And again, I'm not saying that promotion guarantees or a good rollout guarantee that the movie is going be a success, a big success. I'm not saying that. But I think you have to start to question yourself as a studio when you have a movie that's coming out, one of your big movies in the calendar, and no one knows about yeah I had no idea. I don't think I'd even seen a trailer for it.
00:08:57
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I saw maybe one trailer, two maybe, but that's you know when going to go see other movies. But outside of that, i was like, I can't tell you. I think Zoe Saldana does a voice. I think. I can't even tell you where where in line the story goes, who's involved. or Yeah.
00:09:14
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Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. and I will say, they um it is I don't know if you saw that. they They're dropping another one. I think it's a Pixar movie. Hoppers. Yeah, I didn't even see the trailer for it, though. Oh, I did. It was like... Because think it came up on my... I think it was on YouTube or something. And...
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and um was it YouTube? When was that I was watching it? I forgot where I was watching it, but I was like, oh, this looks really fun. Like, I was like, oh, okay. Like, this looks like it looks really funny.
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um I was like, really about it. I was like, oh, okay. Like, this could be a really fun one to watch. of But I don't know. It could be also like, maybe the idea of Ilia was also just not, it could be the story. Maybe this wasn't as appealing to other people. I don't know what it is, but yeah.
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I do agree. It's just like the rollout for that was just really, really bad. It just wasn't... Well, no, people aren't going to know the story if you're not promoting the movie and telling people what the movie's about. No. You know? like like like Like, I didn't see... I don't remember seeing Zoe Saldana going on the late night talk shows.
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Yeah. Promoting. I didn't see her going to the morning shows promoting it. Like, I didn't see any of that. There was no promotion. Nothing. Yeah, you're No promotion. And I'm like... Well, of course, no if no one if you're not promoting the show, no one's going to know that it
Pixar's Recent Performance and Pandemic Impact
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exists.
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Yeah. Listen, there's so much going on around the world. There's much going on in entertainment. It's very easy for a movie to go by. but ah see But that's something now, because if you were to tell me five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, or Pixar was coming out, everybody has that movie circled on the couch. Yeah.
00:10:46
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Everyone. And now, of late, Pixar has just been x extremely hit or miss. That is true. Extremely hit or miss. And it's been more missed than hit, I'll be honest with you.
00:10:58
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Because Inside Out did well because it is a sequel. People are familiar with that. You know what I'm saying? So it's been more missed. Huh? I don't think liked Inside Out 2. I think I watched it. I think I watched it.
00:11:09
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Yeah, I've seen Inside Out 2. That's I'm saying. Inside Out 2 was good. But that's what I'm saying. That's one of the rare hits because it's been more missed than it has been for Pixar. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know which one. I mean, you know next year they're going to drop Toy Story 5.
00:11:22
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That'll probably do a billion dollars because it's Toy Story. There is a, you know, there there's a contingent. There's a contingent that has watched Toy Story 1 and now have kids that are grown.
00:11:34
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Yeah, you know what I mean? That that that so it's like there there's a nostalgic aspect. So that'll do money. That'll do bank. But then it's like that's not fair for for people involved in this movie, Ilio.
00:11:48
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What if that was their first time making a Pixar movie? What if this was their first kind of big break into it? And because it was so horribly promoted, you know, those people might not even get a latter day of a chance of doing something else.
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Did that movie make like $40 million dollars or something? It was like... Someone said it was like like one of the... I mean, it is like the lowest movie. bacon I think so far it has been.
00:12:14
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Can you see it? I think it has. i'm I'm trying to. um Let me see here. feel like someone said it made like $40 million. dollars I'm like, that's literally. Box office mojo. Let's see where how we're at with Elio.
00:12:26
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Dude, this is so bad. Elio, Elio, Elio, Elio. It's not even coming up. Wow. I don't want anybody to know how bad it's doing.
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um I'm going to the i'm going top. Oh, here it is. So far, Mel, it's made $66 million. dollars Yeah, 66. sixty six And it's been out how many weeks?
00:12:50
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I don't know. It hasn't been out for that long. hasn't been out the for that long. I think came out in like the end of June. June 20th it came out. Yeah, so almost a month. June 20th. And it hasn't even $100 million. dollars That's wild.
00:13:08
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That's so sad. It's going to be going on streaming like in next week already. Oh, easily. Easily. they have They kind of have to cut their losses and they have to hope that on streaming it finally it finds a new light. And watch. You know what's funny? You know what's funny? It'll go on streaming and it'll do well on streaming.
00:13:23
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And people will be like, oh, wow, I should have gone to go see this in the movie. Yeah, that's probably what's going to happen. And I think it actually, and and going back to that, i feel like it also all started with, unfortunately, the pandemic.
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um Yeah. Which because when it was the pandemic, that's when Pixar just started putting everything on Disney Plus. Yeah. It started with sad Soul.
00:13:46
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It started with Soul. And then what was the other one? Oh, the one with Tom Holland. Turning Red. No, no, no. Oh, no, that one came out in the theaters. That one came out in the theater. remember I went to the theater to see that one. But it was like, right. But it was like. Yeah, but you can't count that. It was piece of COVID, wasn't it?
00:14:05
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No, that was before COVID started. That was like, that was like in the States. That was like literally like maybe like, ah like three or four weeks before COVID really hit, hit. So i got that that got in the theater.
00:14:16
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Yes, it got affected by COVID, but that got a release. That got everything. I'm not going to count that one. I'm going to say Soul. Soul, and I think Turning red I think Turning Red.
00:14:26
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ah Turning Red, yeah. Which actually, really liked that movie. But Turning Red, yeah that that one suffered too because it was just like it just went straight to Disney Plus and people were like, what the fuck? why is it Why is a Pixar movie going on Disney Plus?
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And I don't know if that just kind of like made people now kind of in their heads be like, I'll just watch it on Disney Plus because Pixar's going to release it there. could be also lets that thing. And it is unfortunately just the world of streaming. And now like moving on because we've we've got to get to some other stuff here. Yes, yes. um yeah You know, like I don't
Superman Review and Emmy Nominations
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know what it is. And this is... Okay, so guys, just so you you probably saw the today's title, but we're going to be talking about Superman and we're gonna we're going to do our review for Superman and our thoughts and discuss about that a little bit.
00:15:10
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And also talk about the Emmy nominations that have just come out this past week. But... And then I know, Rod, you had asked me because you thought we had talked about Jurassic ah World.
00:15:22
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What was it? What's it called? Jurassic World? Rebirth. Rebirth. And...
Jurassic World Rebirth Critique
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I don't know what's been going on with me lately with these movies.
00:15:33
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And I didn't, it's not, I did not, not feel it during Superman. Like I like, I like Superman and and I did, I did enjoy Jurassic Park, but I think I wanted to like it more than, than it was, than it ended up happening. And i think it was during Jurassic Park that I was sitting watching this movie and I was like,
00:15:56
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I don't know why I'm not feeling anything right now. Like, I'm just kind of like going through the motions. Like, I'm watching a movie and I'm just kind of like, okay, yeah. All right, there's Scarlett Johansson. all right, there's a dinosaur.
00:16:07
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Like it was, and like, I don't know why this is starting to happen. Granted, when I went to see how to train your dragon, i had all the feels in that movie. Like I was like, I felt like I was there. Like, I don't know what, what went wrong in Jurassic park or in other movies where I'm feeling like ah something's not getting to me or it's not making me feel what I want it to feel. And I don't know if it's just because I'm just like,
00:16:33
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Tired of like so much. at Consuming so much. That everything just is starting to feel. Almost kind of just like a. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. But.
00:16:46
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wait I kind of felt a little bit like that in Superman as well, where it kind of was just like, man, I want to feel more. why What is missing that I'm not? Is it the music? Is it the soundtrack? Is it the actors? Is it too CGI? Like, why am I sitting here being like, man, I wish I felt a little bit more.
00:17:04
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And I don't know what what it was, but like Jurassic Park was was one of the big ones where I really felt like I was sitting there like, kind of just going through motions. Like, i'm all right, have to watch this movie, so I'm going to go and watch it because I should. It's Jurassic Park and Jonathan Bailey's in it. Jonathan Bailey. Yeah, voyager is in the Bailey. you know, and, like, I wanted to watch it.
00:17:24
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and And I don't know if it just didn't hit me because, like, there were parts of that movie that i just really hated. Like, I don't know. I don't, do you want to just a quick little overview of that? We'll do a quick ah overview with it. I, okay. There's, so I felt, I felt a little, so when the movie ended and I want, I want my family to go watch it and we were all discussing and then they were all waiting and for they asked they were waiting for me to talk about it because they know I'm the Jurassic, you know, part guy. yeah And at first I was just like,
00:17:56
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I'm kind of like, I don't know. like i I kind of was like not big on it. I was like, I was like ah like that it was scary. i was like, that's kind of cool because that's different. Yeah. you know In terms of comparing it to the other Jurassic Parks, this was the most, I'd say, horror-ish in terms of how they did things.
00:18:14
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But then, like, I kept getting drawn back to the first time the trailer released. And I told you, i'm like, that's not Jurassic Park. Like, that's not, it's not that, you know? And and and and and I was like, like that this could have been called something else, you know?
00:18:29
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um But then, like, i don't know, as as the time progressed, I kind of opened up my thoughts a little bit more to it. And it was okay. I thought it was an okay movie. But, you see, that's the difference with Mima is when it comes to a Jurassic Park.
00:18:44
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that ip and that okay doesn't cut it for me um i hold that i hold that franchise to a very high standard because those are the standards that were set by steven spielberg with jurassic park which is my all-time favorite movie and set by the lost world which is ah a criminally underrated movie that doesn't get talked about enough you know Yeah, after that, you can kind of say maybe things went off of the rails with Jurassic Park 3, which also wasn't a bad movie.
00:19:12
Speaker
I actually really liked Jurassic Park 3. I really enjoyed that one. That doesn't get as enough credit. as well Yeah. I started to kind of, you know... and then then the Then the Jurassic World came in. And listen, I was not big on Jurassic World because it was just a lot that they tried to recapture that just didn't work. It felt empty and bland.
00:19:31
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But I give them credit because there was such a long gap between Jurassic Park 3 and Jurassic World though from the new trilogy. So then when we heard that they were Jurassic World Rebirth, I'm like, it's so soon from the last movie, like the last trilogy, like...
00:19:49
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Like, what are we what are we talking about here? Someone went to the island again? Like, I don't know. Like, it's kind of like, i've i've I think I've reached a point when it comes to the Jurassic movies where it's kind of, where I'm like, maybe it's time to take the fall off the gas, end give it a break and give it like a good 10 year break.
00:20:09
Speaker
And then come back and do something else if you want to. If you want to you know reboot it or do something within the world of that, then that's fine. But I think it's time to do that because it's... I'm not going to say it's growing stale because box office-wise, it's... Which we knew. We knew was going to make lot of money. We knew that, though. They do well. It's the IP. People are like, we're going to go watch.
00:20:32
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We're going to watch Jurassic Park. And I went in and watched it. So like of course like people are going to watch It's going to make a shit ton of money. Yeah, it's done very well. But again, the way I see it and the way I look at it is like, I don't know.
00:20:47
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um i think I just think it's time for a break with those movies, because the thing that made those movies special and that it was the aspect of dinosaurs and seeing dinosaurs and and in the light that we didn't see before.
00:21:00
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And granted, you know, we saw with the newer trilogy, we actually saw dinosaurs in the real world and stuff. So when this movie came out they kind of started doing that, new it was kind of like, oh, people are annoyed of dinosaurs, which is kind of funny because i feel i'm I'm saying to myself, well, is this movie kind of commentary on how people feel about this franchise?
00:21:19
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Oh, yeah. It's a commentary on that. Yeah. So maybe it's like, oh, well, you know, this island is different because this island, day they did, you know, science scientific experiments. And granted, so Jurassic Park, the original movie, was exactly that. It was a science experiment experiment.
00:21:36
Speaker
where they took DNA and they and they genetically modified dinosaurs. So the whole thing, and i so I'm guilty because I said it like, oh, that's not Jurassic Park because you know this is like you know like this is like a so like a science experiment gone wrong. don't know, technically Jurassic Park was it a science experiment that got wrong, but I don't know. I feel like when you do this whole mutation of, oh yeah, we're mixing dinosaurs together and we made this one dinosaur that looks like a rancor, I'm like, ah you know, like it just, it stopped.
00:22:02
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It, part Part through that movie, kind of just stopped being what I thought it should be. But then again, i come to i'm contradicting myself a lot, and I'm really sorry.
00:22:14
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because the way I see it is, you know, you judge a movie by what the movie is that you see. Don't judge it by the expectation that you have up here. You know, you kind of supposed to check that at the door, you know, but I don't know. I feel like when it comes to like a beloved franchise like this, I'm just going to hold it to a, to a high standard.
00:22:32
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I'm not going to say it's a bad movie. I thought it was good. um i think it was, a i think, I think it was good. I don't think it was great by any stretch of the imagination.
00:22:43
Speaker
I saw it once. I'm not in a hurry to see it again. Maybe I'll see it again when it's released. Some point this year, I'll watch it, but I'm not in a hurry. I don't have the feeling that I did when I saw Sinners or when I saw or when I saw Superman.
00:22:57
Speaker
So um I'm not feeling that for for this movie. So yeah, that's that's my thoughts on it. Yeah, aye I kind of agree, but I think even waiting, I think it just should just end.
00:23:10
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i i think that I think that might have been the reason why this movie to me was like, I wanted it to be something else that it wasn't, that it didn't end up being. like I thought it was going to be a little bit more, know if it's fun as the word, but there were just some ridiculous things in this movie. And someone brought this up on TikTok and I was like, this is absolutely true.
00:23:33
Speaker
This movie is wild to me for the number one reason that You're telling me that the whole reason why this thing went down, you know, the, like the, where what is that called? The place where they made the experiment. What is that called? Like the building, right?
00:23:50
Speaker
Yeah. It's because, A Snickers rapper went through vent and shut down the whole system. A Snickers rapper. Yeah. That, to me, I didn't even catch that at first.
00:24:03
Speaker
And when this TikToker talked about it, i haven't been able to escape it from my mind. Like, literally like, you know what? That is true. It's absolutely ridiculous that you're telling me that this guy was like in such a rush to eat a Snickers rapper that it got through vent. That was crazy.
00:24:17
Speaker
That was And closed down the whole thing. Like, are you? Come on. Like, are we stupid? Like, come on. Like, that is at that point where you're trying to make this so silly and dumb that people are, are like, can't come.
00:24:31
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Like, they're like, we have to keep this simple and easy. Oh, I don't know. Let's ah have a Snickers wrapper get into the vent and shut down this whole thing. And then this guy gets stuck in there and then you see the beard thing.
00:24:41
Speaker
Yeah. And granted, that was scary. I liked that. I did. I thought that was cool. You know what reminded me of? Independence Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It did. You know that part? Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the sciences behind the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's literally what that reminded me of, which, granted, hey, that's great.
00:25:00
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It is a universal movie. It is a universe is universal movie. universal movie. And I love Independence Day. That movie is such a wonderful film. Yeah, crowd pleaser, definitely. Crowd pleaser, so fucking good. Classic. Will Smith in his prime.
00:25:12
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um But, you know, like, I was like, they couldn't think of a better way for this to go down. And you know what's sad about that? And and and and I'm going to jump on that, what you just said. You know what's sad about that? Because...
00:25:26
Speaker
If you were to tell me that Jurassic Park was those types of movies where little things like that are the reason why things happen, they that Jurassic Park, the the franchise itself, it's never been that type of series. It's never been like, oh, little thing that this person did goofily.
00:25:41
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It's never been that. It's never been that. From Jurassic Park 1, when Dennis Nidri decided to, oh I'm going shut down the park with the purpose of getting out and getting these samples out. There's a purpose for that. It wasn't like, oh, yeah, he had a chapstick that fell down and rolled down the keyboard and the hit enter. Yeah. There wasn't anything stupid like that. Yes, exactly. These movies aren't like that. So for for that to be the reason why it happened to me, it's kind of like...
00:26:07
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It's kind of like, wow. You know what that is? That's very endgame with the mouse going on. happened to go on top of the car hit the button. And that's the reason why I'm just kind of like, really? This is fine? Yeah, exactly. You guys created a movie. you guys could You guys can make a better example. You can maybe be like, oh, yeah, it's a timer that went off. And it that's why. OK, fine. I'll roll with that.
00:26:26
Speaker
But and then with this, it's like, oh, yeah. Like, it could have been anything. It could have been something. It could have been something as, yo. Like, it should have technically been something where it's like, this is an extremely strong fucking creature. Yeah. And it got angry.
00:26:40
Speaker
And that's what happened. There we That would make more sense than this fucking guy eating a Snickers. Who could not fucking... You mean to tell me you're going into this thing. You could not finish this fucking Snickers at your desk, bro. Yes, exactly.
00:26:55
Speaker
Absolutely. Look, look, look, look, look. I'm i' i'm a big guy. I like to eat. Okay? Okay. But if I know I'm going into this cage with this animal or this creature that can severely kill me and destroy me, you best believe I'm going to go in there focused on what I got to do. Yeah. Not focusing the fucking sneakers I have in my in my mouth because I'm so lazy that I can't fucking like spit the shit out. Because listen, I'm spitting that thing out.
00:27:19
Speaker
Yeah. I'm leaving it at my desk. Or I'm calling somebody, hey, Jan, over there, come here. Yeah, can you take this and just put it in my desk or throw it in the trash can? You know what I mean? yeah Yeah. You're so right. And you know what, Mel? Now that you talk about it, i want to bring something up to you because when I was watching this movie, i was like, oh, shit.
00:27:35
Speaker
I was like, I got to talk to Mel about this. I wonder if she saw it. Okay. So, Mel, the purpose that they want on the island was to get some sort of thing for medication, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they needed to get it from the creature alive, right? Yeah.
00:27:54
Speaker
So that was the purpose of them going after these creatures, correct? Yeah. What movie recently, and when I mean recently, I want to see maybe in the last two or three years, where the main sole reason um they went after a particular creature in the movie was for that same reason.
00:28:14
Speaker
Have I seen this movie? You saw it because we did a review on it. It's one of the biggest movies ever made. Part three comes out later this year.
00:28:27
Speaker
parts Avatar? Oh, yes. Oh, my God. With the whale. whale. Yes.
00:28:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah. um That was... Oh, my God. It was literally like the same thing. the same thing. Yeah. Wow. Didn't even think about that. Wow. It's the same thing. The same thing. Yeah. And granted, listen, I'm not saying Avatar created that trope.
00:28:51
Speaker
That's a trope that, you know, that's fine. But I'm just like... like And I know they chose that because they're like, oh, we need a noble... Because they're probably game planning behind the scenes.
00:29:02
Speaker
What's the reason? What's the noble reason? It has to be a noble reason that we're going on this island because people are going to be how did you not learn after six movies that it's a bad idea to deal with these creatures?
00:29:14
Speaker
Oh, well, what we're going to do is say that it's we need this because these are this is vital to to to help restore whatever ailment is going on badly right now.
00:29:25
Speaker
Oh, that's perfect. Let's just go with that. And I'm just kind of like, you know, and again, you roll with it. But then it's kind of like you're like, you're like, um as I'm watching this, and maybe i was you I was probably the only one that thought about it because you didn't even think about it.
00:29:37
Speaker
But I'm just kind of like, i'm like i'm like i've so I've seen this premise before. and then they It didn't take that long for me to hit me. like, this is fucking Avatar. This is them going into the whale and getting that thing to sell it to the companies or whatever. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Wow. I didn't even think about that. Man, listen.
00:29:53
Speaker
Wait, I want to say one more thing. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, I need to get this off my chest because this is, to me, I think everyone has said this, is this movie did not need...
00:30:05
Speaker
that other plot with that family that was such a complete waste of screen time i was like I could have been doing i could have been talking with fucking Jonathan Bailey storyline I want to know more about this character actually thought Jonathan Bailey in this was like I forgot I didn't even like to me like his character like wasn't developed enough I didn't understand what his relationship with Scarlett Johansson was I'm like is this supposed to be romantic or is this platonic like I can't tell what this is and that bothered me I want to talk about that later on when we talk about Superman. i want to talk about relationships and stuff. But go go ahead. Just remind me for that. i also thought it was weird that Jonathan Bailey had to have an American accent. Why?
00:30:47
Speaker
Why did he do that? That's the only thing. Keep him with a British accent. Who cares? Why did he? And everybody's been complaining because they didn't like his accent. And it and I was like, I can tell like it was a little bit kind of like caricature-y like I don't you could tell it was like an accent but also I guess sort of literally check them they could lie just know he's British but why there was no reason whatsoever why his character had to be had to have it not be English hated that but this family what tell me what did this family accomplish this whole movie what did what did they accomplish
00:31:18
Speaker
I feel like, and listen, I hate talking about this. I hate talking about this family because this family is representative of us. And that was cool that we actually got to see. Oh, like Latinos? Is that what you mean? Yeah, was happy that we got to see that. And it wasn't, you know, something stupid or whatever. It was the Lincoln lawyer. Yeah, it was the Lincoln lawyer.
00:31:38
Speaker
But it was great. It was great to see that because, i you know, but I feel like, I feel like I could see where your argument is where a lot of people argument is with this. I just feel like this family was just kind of like another method of telling the story of, of dealing with people that are,
00:31:56
Speaker
not meant, well, no one's meant to go there, but not mentally prepared to go to this area. But a damn sailboat? Like, you're leaving the world of dinosaurs.
00:32:08
Speaker
Like, why were they shocked that they would, that's the part that gets me. It's like, it's stupid. It's like, how did this family not realize like, oh yeah, but ah by the way, we are very close to where dinosaurs live. but's Let's go on a little sailing boat trip.
00:32:23
Speaker
Like, What? Stupid. So stupid. They made Latin people look stupid. That's what they did. And second... Sorry. Sorry. sorry What were you going to say?
00:32:33
Speaker
No, no, no. Go ahead. I'm just so passionate about this. I just need to get it out to somebody. Go ahead. Go ahead. Don't worry about it. And then also... That fucking boyfriend. That fucking boyfriend. What did he accomplish?
00:32:45
Speaker
What relationship changed? The whole beginning of their relationship was the fact that like the the dad was like not accepting of the boyfriend. This relationship throughout the whole thing never changed.
00:32:57
Speaker
He was always a dick to him. Nothing changed. The only thing that was like nice was like, oh, he went and like went it after the daughter and like made him be like, oh, okay, he cares about my daughter, blah, blah, blah. But then even like when he tried to like thank him, the guy was still a dick.
00:33:11
Speaker
And it was just like weird. Like his character was all out of place. That part with the raptors while he was peeing, ridiculous. I've never wanted a character to die so much and they didn't.
00:33:23
Speaker
I was like, why isn't this kid dead? what What is he bringing? I don't even see this relationship with the girlfriend that like is a connection where you could see that they have something that maybe the dad doesn't see. No.
00:33:34
Speaker
He was just stupid the whole damn time. Then the T-Rex thing was cool though. I liked the seeing the T-Rex and stuff. Like that was cool and I liked it. The whole like the scary part where it was there and then it wasn't there. Like I like that. The raft part.
00:33:49
Speaker
But it's like this, and they were just in the way the whole time. And then the freaking little, the little a little puppet. Dorothy, was it? The girl? are you talking about the little dinosaur? I don't know what it's called.
00:34:01
Speaker
The cutest dinosaur. I thought that this dinosaur was going to play some sort of role. No, it was just a dinosaur that was around that she ended up taking home with her. You know what that was?
00:34:12
Speaker
What? that dinosaur was supposed to be kind of like, almost like a Grogu situation where it's like, oh, we need a little thing, cute little thing that we could yes bring in kids and maybe sell it as a toy or whatever. That's all it was.
00:34:28
Speaker
I hated it I was like, this is I wanted that dinosaur to represent something, to be like some something to like help the story or to help these characters. You know what I thought it was? I thought that dinosaur at the end was going to like,
00:34:41
Speaker
do something or maybe maybe what I actually thought was that maybe at the end when the D Rex order was coming and it was going to attack him. I thought that that that that that um that that ah little dinosaur thing, the family was going to come and maybe protect everybody. like maybe Yeah! Exactly! think that would have been i think that would have been like a better payoff when it came to that. I would have made it more realistic in terms of... As realistic as you can be in this type of think that would been more realistic. Like, oh, like...
00:35:12
Speaker
Like, you know, that the, of the you know, justre you're carrying this just small baby with you. You would assume all the family must be looking for it. They know the smell. they follow So maybe that, that thought I actually thought that was going to happen and didn't. I was like, okay, well.
00:35:27
Speaker
There's no payoff to this damn animal. But again, the whole movie, the whole movie though, it's kind of like, it's... it's It's one of the... That's why I said this movie is different cause this movie is treated like almost like more of a horror thing.
00:35:40
Speaker
Because most horror movies, like like monster movies, there isn't a lot of points. It's just you're going in there and you're seeing these monsters attack and have you know jump scares or whatever.
00:35:51
Speaker
But again, that's why I said Jurassic... This isn't Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park isn't that. you know It's not that. not that. and that's why that's why when the movie ended and they were waiting for my reaction, they weren't so pleased my reaction because I was like, didn't it didn't it didn't bring that.
00:36:07
Speaker
It didn't bring that aspect to it for me as a Jurassic Park fan. and love and And again, I had to check my own ego at the door because I did bring that part of thing into my own personal review of like of this movie where I was like, I need to treat this movie as it is for what it is on its own.
Jurassic Park Action Scenes and Future Directions
00:36:24
Speaker
And yeah, there was some nice moments. Like there was that one moment where where where you see those the big dinosaurs where they embrace. Yeah. And Jonathan Bailey was crying. That was very nice moment. That was probably the moment of the movie.
00:36:39
Speaker
Yeah. You know, that was the moment. Yeah, was it was nicely shot and stuff. I did like the dinosaur battles in this. I liked the dinosaur action. I thought that was really, really good. Yeah, liked the boat.
00:36:50
Speaker
That whole boat scene was good. That whole boat scene was good. And those dinosaurs that look like birds, those are freaking scary, man. The one that has a beak or whatever. feel like they took over for raptors in this movie.
00:37:04
Speaker
Wait, are you talking about the ones at the end? when they were like in the grocery store Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that when I think that they were like a mutated raptor you needed raptor with the flying. what do they call it? Pterodactyls. Pterodactyls. I think they were like, but obviously what that was trying to do was trying to do the first movie. Yeah, they're trying to recreate it. It's clear. Recreate that. It's clear what that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:31
Speaker
they Those were really creepy. At first I couldn't tell. I was like, are they Raptor? I couldn't tell. I was like, what are they? Because never really said. ah Yeah, I liked that scene. It was good. I thought the action was really good.
00:37:45
Speaker
There were things in this movie that I was like, he was like if you were to to to trim certain things down. Change a couple of things. Change a couple things. I think you could have had a way more solid movie. But then this is the thing. This movie ends and I'm just kind of like,
00:38:00
Speaker
Like, okay are they going to... the I hope I just wanted to end. It needs to end. I want it to end. Because I think I'm done. What else are you going to do? Like what, ah what else are you really going to do with this story? You can't keep going back to these islands again, because it's, it's becoming very repetitive. Like it's, it's literally becoming very, very repetitive now with this whole thing of like, Oh, we're going back the island. The island is the most dangerous. These islands are the most dangerous places you can go to.
00:38:28
Speaker
And I know this isn't the same island as in part one. No, this is a whole a whole other place, but still, It's a freaking island where there's dinosaurs on. People go there and they die. We've seen this in all these movies. Stop going there.
00:38:39
Speaker
and And you got to stop treating your audiences like dumbasses. Like, I'm not an idiot. Like, if they do another one, y'all going to do another one? what what's What is it now?
00:38:50
Speaker
We've already seen dinosaurs in cities. We've seen that already. We don't need to... We've seen dinosaurs being auctioned. We've seen dinosaurs being cloned. We've seen animals being cloned. We've seen mutations. like you know what i like you You know what they should do? If they want to continue this whole world, then maybe do a new story within this world where it has nothing to do with the dinosaur.
00:39:11
Speaker
Maybe do something where it has to do with the DNA of humans. like If you want to keep this world quote-unquote living and going, do something like that radical inside of there. As opposed to keep touching upon, oh, yeah, we got to go to Jurassic Park. We have to go to Isla Sorna. We have to go to this place because there's a dinosaur that has this and that.
00:39:31
Speaker
Nah, man. like Like, do something else. You know, like, they need to they they need to cut away from from this. And I think they need to give it a break. Give it, like, a full break. And if you want to revisit it 10, 15 years from now, fine. But give it that break where enough of people can be like, oh, okay, well...
00:39:52
Speaker
This is over. It's done with. You know, this is a new story. um You know, and we're taking inspiration from the original book and we're doing something else.
00:40:03
Speaker
Fine. I'll rule with that. But I think it's time. I think it's time to cut away. Yeah. I'm sorry. I think it is. Agreed. But now, speaking of cutting away, let's talk about Superman.
Superman Film Review
00:40:16
Speaker
How we should not be cutting away from that world, shall we?
00:40:19
Speaker
Oh, we cannot. We cannot wet be cutting and cutting away from Superman. gotta look up. We gotta look up. We gotta look up. Yeah. So do you want to go first or should I go first? I'll let you go first. You want to go feel like I should go first. Go first. Go first. Just because I think my thoughts will be a little bit Less than. I know you've got a lot to say.
00:40:38
Speaker
want to give you your space for that. ah Pretty much for me, I... So I saw it. I saw actually saw it with Rudy. And I really liked it. really liked this movie. Yeah, there were some parts that I... Like some characters that I feel were kind of just like...
00:40:56
Speaker
whatever. Like, I think the movie suffered from, the suffered. It was a har har very harsh critic because i don't think this movie suffered at all. It was like, very it's very good overall.
00:41:07
Speaker
I did love um david cornstett as uh superman i thought he was great i do wish and i think a lot of people talked about this i wish we saw a little bit more of the clark kent aspect but that's fine it's not the end of the world like it would just been i feel like we he was superman this whole movie like and granted the movie is called superman but you know it's not smallville But, you know, like, I feel like it would have been nice just to see him a little bit more as Clark Kent and see other people see him as Clark Kent and what I think of him or something. I don't know. well Whatever. That's just me throwing it out.
00:41:38
Speaker
But I did really like him as Superman. I think this was the most, like, human Superman we saw because we saw him lose a lot. He was losing pretty much most of this movie. um So that was an interesting kind of way of seeing Superman. Yeah.
00:41:55
Speaker
I did like that the movie was already like, like Superman just exists. um not Not, what are they called? Like the other superheroes? Meta-humans. Meta-humans. i I was like, it's not mutants. What is it? Meta-humans. I was like, they, that already exists and people are like, oh yeah, like this is normal. It's not like, oh, who's that? You know, it's kind of just like normal.
00:42:14
Speaker
um I have to say, I think one of my favorite things about this movie. Oh, and I also did like um Rachel but for, for, for, for it but yeah What's her name? Brosnahan.
00:42:26
Speaker
Brosnahan, yeah. I thought she was ah she was great as Lois. I did love her relationship with Superman. I thought that was really good. Also, really nice to see when Lois already just knows who he is. It's not like, a oh shit it's a secret.
00:42:39
Speaker
ah You know, like most movies where they don't know. like i like that. We're already there. like We've skipped this stuff. I did really like... Oh, I loved...
00:42:52
Speaker
I loved, loved, loved Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor. I think he is amazing in this film. He, I think, was one of my favorite parts, actually, of this movie. I thought he brought this, like, so much hate for Superman, but there was also so much emotion around it.
00:43:08
Speaker
Like, I just, I loved his take on this character. I just really, really liked him. I can't wait to see him in wherever we go um now the parts like the characters like to me that really oh and mr terrific i thought he was like a very big another really big highlighted character that i didn't think from the trailers you barely saw him so to me i was really surprised that he had so much screen time he had more than guy gardner did and which i liked his character too like you know funny comic relief like i enjoyed that um
00:43:42
Speaker
But I thought Mr. Terrific was great. i mean, that action scene was wonderful. It was very a lot of Guardians. I think this movie gave me James Gunn. Like I could, I was like, yeah, James Gunn definitely directed it. So you could just like, he just, it did give me Guardian vibes and not not in a like the same, but it just had that like,
00:44:01
Speaker
feeling that Guardians of the Galaxy had. I don't know if you ah see what if you understand what I'm saying, but it kind of just ah did feel very James Gunn. This was not Zack Snyder in any shape or form, which is fine, and we don't want it to be that.
00:44:15
Speaker
But I did feel like this movie gave me that like serious moments, but then you had a lot of that like funny that levity that guardians really gave and the music was also like ah i think a big part of that especially that whole scene with Mr. Terrific with the music it just gave me guardians like no other and but where I felt like the movie I think the surrounding characters were a little bit underdeveloped and I think it's because there was just too much going on with like the main characters that like some of the outside ones kind of like just like
00:44:49
Speaker
like I didn't know enough to really care about them. Like the people at the daily planet isn't what's his name? Uh, the, the guy, the, not the assistant, what's his name?
00:45:00
Speaker
Jimmy Olsen. Yeah. Jimmy Olsen. He's a pretty big character. Is he not? Very big character. Yeah. great Big character. And I felt like in this movie, he was just like left to the wind. Like I, there wasn't a lot with him where like, i felt like as there was a lot to his character other than him, like with the girl and it being kind of like a funny side thing.
00:45:18
Speaker
Um, And they were all like in the, in the big thing with her and the big that spaceship, that big thing that they were in, whatever thing, that driving thing, they were all in there. And I'm like, who the fuck are these people? I was like, I had no idea who any of these other characters were. So I felt that was kind of like, and at the end of the day, they're not, they're not the main point of this movie. So I understand why they were probably like, just kind of like, Oh, okay. They're there.
00:45:42
Speaker
But it would have been nice to spend a little bit more time at the daily planet to understand more of their relationships. Yeah. And then that brings me to Hawkgirl. I actually did not like that character in this movie. I was not a fan, which sucks because I like Isabella.
00:45:58
Speaker
um or merette me Merced, i said yeah. said yeah you know Latina, like, you know pro. But, like, I just was like, don't her character is very, very underdeveloped for me. I just felt like I saw more of Mr. Terrific and more of Gardner, and all she did was kind of just be like,
00:46:15
Speaker
hawking around which it actually made me laugh anytime she hawked like oh when she screeched when she screeches oh my god i couldn't stop laughing because it just felt so weird and i know nothing about i don't like who the fuck is this like i have no idea which character this is so to me it just felt very like and don't know she was very underutilized to me she was kind of boring like just a side character drew that was just thrown in there um and think that's all i want to say um Yeah, the story, I loved the ah speech at the end that he gives when he's like talking to Lex Luthor about messing up all the time. I loved that scene. And just that whole, that whole scene was one of my favorites.
00:46:55
Speaker
um And also the scene with when Clark goes back home, obviously every single time he goes back home, you get that human side of him with his family and his dad and you know, that relationship that they have, which I absolutely really, you know, enjoyed seeing, like, kind of, like, who he is when he's home with, you know, ah Martha and what's the dad's name?
00:47:17
Speaker
ah Jonathan. And John, yeah. Like, I like i i liked that. And honestly, I didn't know where this was going because in almost, like, all the Superman movies, he, like, dies.
00:47:28
Speaker
So I didn't know if he was going to die in this movie. Like, I think in Man of Steel, doesn't he die? Yeah. Yeah, right? I feel like in most Superman movies, or am I mimicking that up?
00:47:40
Speaker
No, you're not. in in the movie In the movies, they they did that. But in comic books and in animated series and stuff, He's alive. He's alive. Yeah. He's alive. they It's a, it's a, it's a, it's one of those things where they let whoever's in charge of whatever the project is kind of do their own thing with, with, with, with this. yeah I wasn't sure if he was like a Peter Parker situation, like a, like Ben, like I didn't know if Jonathan Kent was like a Ben where he has to die in all the stories because in a lot of the movies he dies. So I was like, is he supposed to die in this?
00:48:13
Speaker
But he never did. So I'm like, Oh, I guess not a thing. Um, So I did like that relationship. I it was really sweet. I wish we saw more of that. um And I think I kind of hit everything I wanted to hit.
00:48:26
Speaker
ah The action was great. um
00:48:32
Speaker
I really, really liked this movie. Oh, and then obviously we had a lot of cameos in this, um which was very funny. I didn't think I would see Bradley Cooper playing him. So it was Jor-El or his dad. I thought that was a fun little cameo.
00:48:45
Speaker
You know, a lot of people from Peacemaker. um a lot of people like who he had. you What's his name? ah Also from Guardians. Gunn. What's his last name?
00:48:55
Speaker
What's his name? Oh, yeah. Sean Gunn. Sean Gunn. Yeah, love He played Maxwell Lord. Yeah, he had his he had his little cameo. And then obviously we had Supergirl at the end. And they released trailer for that. So that was like a nice little thing.
00:49:09
Speaker
um I didn't realize that the dog is her dog, so that was funny. um Yeah. And I also did like... I also thought that that reveal was a very interesting twist to the story about how his parents were like, yeah, you're going to take over and you're going to be a god. like Because that's never how it's ever... At least, I don't remember. um That you know of, yeah. That you know That I know of. It's always just been like, oh no, we sent him to Earth because he needed we needed to save him. It was never like...
00:49:38
Speaker
were bad people. but Right. So I thought that was ah an interesting twist. Um, and then the way that it's found out, I didn't, it's not how I thought the movie was going to go.
00:49:49
Speaker
Like I thought the movie was going to start off with people already kind of hating spider, Spider-Man, Superman. I didn't realize it was going to be like, kind of like not halfway, but like later on that, like it's revealed and through like, you know, Lex Luthor's little minions and stuff that it's, um,
00:50:09
Speaker
his parents and and they're going to think that he's just like been grooming people and everything. I didn't know that that's where it was going to go. So that was a nice little twist. i I liked that. um But yeah, I think that's all want to say.
00:50:21
Speaker
i think I'm, I think that's how I feel about this movie and I will okay go from there when you chat. All right. So um Superman, how do I feel about Superman? ah Full disclosure. I saw Superman twice. Yeah.
00:50:36
Speaker
um First time I saw it, I really, really liked it. I really, really liked it. um And I said to myself, I want to so like i want to see this movie again. i really want to see it again.
00:50:48
Speaker
and then after that, you know i just was it was I thought about the film as a whole. And i was I quickly was like, okay, let's let's just break down what did this movie need to do?
00:51:01
Speaker
What did it need to do? It needed to establish David Cornsweth as Superman. Box check. Did that. Needed to establish Razor Bohassian as Lois Lane.
00:51:12
Speaker
Box check. We needed to see their chemistry on screen and how it worked. Double check. They needed to establish Lex Luthor, Nicholas Holt. Check.
00:51:24
Speaker
That right there, the name of the movie is called Superman. That is what it needed to do. That is what it needed to do. And to me, in my personal opinion, it succeeded in flying colors because this is Superman.
00:51:39
Speaker
Now, going forward, anytime we see David Cornswet, we know, shit, that's Superman. We're going to be good. And to me, that's what made this movie work.
00:51:50
Speaker
What made the movie work was him. He brought the emotion. He brought the character. He brought his sensibilities and made Superman come to life.
00:52:02
Speaker
And I know people are going to go into this one and they're like, well, it's so bright. It's colorful. It's got a lot of jokes. It's this and that. And my thing is, this is not Man of Steel.
00:52:15
Speaker
And this is coming from a person that loved Man Steel. I loved, I was online fighting people over about Man Steel because people were, people were saying, oh, well, this is not Christopher Reeve Superman.
00:52:26
Speaker
yeah i hope you see, I hope you see where I'm going with this. This is not Christopher Reeve Superman. So, you know, and I tell people, well, this is not supposed to be, this is a different take. It's a more grounded, serious take. That's that was back in 2013.
00:52:39
Speaker
Fast forward to today. So we have this Superman. Now, this movie has been more appreciated and more loved than Man of Steel, especially by general audiences.
00:52:52
Speaker
But you still have the pundits out there that are like, oh, well, you know, it's too jokey. It's too this and that. And I'm like, yeah, but this is this Superman. This is the iteration of this huh version of Superman, which in all actuality, that's comic book accurate Superman.
00:53:07
Speaker
Superman is this Superman. This is how he is. He's a very positive person. you know, individual who looks at what it looks at, at, at the best in people.
00:53:20
Speaker
Clark Kent, this is what Clark Kent is. He's supposed to be this way, you know, like this is what it is, you know? And, and when it comes to, when it comes to Lois Lane, this is what Lois Lane is.
00:53:32
Speaker
She's a reporter. She's tough when she needs to be, you know what I mean? She's, this is who she is. Lex Luthor. Lex Luthor is a fucking hater. He is a hater. Hater. and He's a hater and in the highest degree. Yeah. Lex Luthor is... You know how Lex Luthor is at the high... Lex Luthor is a hater at the level of Voldemort.
00:53:52
Speaker
You know how Voldemort fucking hater? Yeah. Lex Luthor is at that level. They're both... they're They're haters. They hate this motherfucker. They hate Superman. And again, that was done to me flawlessly. Yeah.
00:54:05
Speaker
Agreed. This movie... I feel like it had a gargantuan task. James Gunn, listen, I've criticized a lot of Marvel movies. I've criticized ah ah James Gunn a lot of things when it comes to his films.
00:54:18
Speaker
I've always said he leans too much in the jokes. It's too much. It's too much. And this is the thing that I would say is different for this movie than that. Does this movie have a lot of jokes? It does.
00:54:32
Speaker
But I think that's the point. I think this movie, Superman, is leaning into that because Because this is what they want this world, Metropolis, this world Superman, they want it to feel lived in. They want it to feel like this.
00:54:49
Speaker
That's not to say that all the other movies or shows within the DCU, because this is the start of a new universe, yeah is going to be this way. It's not. James Gunn, the president of DC Studios, who also directed this movie, said it's not going to be that way.
00:55:05
Speaker
Superman is this. This is Superman. Superman. But when Lanterns comes out, um the show comes out next year, that's TVMA. That's like going to be True Detective with Green Lanterns in it.
00:55:17
Speaker
Peacemaker, if you ever saw it, Peacemaker is an action comedy that's very, very mature. Not for everybody. you know Supergirl is going to be extremely different from this movie. So we can't automatically assume, oh, well, this is how it's going to be. i'm I'm done. I'm checking out. No. You can't. You can't.
00:55:34
Speaker
Because remember, this is the start of things. This is where we're going on. and That's why I said this movie had a gargantuan task because it had to establish, again, it had to establish those three characters that I said. but then it had to establish a world behind it. And I think it did it perfectly.
00:55:48
Speaker
For you mean to tell me for a a universe that the only thing that existed before this, in terms of this universe, is the show that's on HBO Max called Creature Command, which is actually really good. it's an it's an animated um It's an animated show um that is that's mature too, but it's really good. And that's stuff that's technically the first thing that that started the DCU was that.
00:56:12
Speaker
But this is the first feature-length live-action movie. So it had the task. and And James Gunn knows, well, not a lot of people are going to go – not a lot of people watched – know about Creature Commandments. It got watched, but not by general audiences.
00:56:27
Speaker
So we have to establish a crawl. And that's what he put at the beginning of the movie. you know um For more than three centuries, MetaHumans existed. 30 years ago, whatever, whatever, Superman landed – you know, three minutes ago, Superman lost his first fight. that You know, like... Yeah, I like that. I thought that was genius. I thought that was genius because those are things where it's like you're getting thrown in the action. It's like opening up a comic book and you're just... You're in it.
00:56:52
Speaker
You are in it. And you're not running... you you're not You're not... Again... You're not seeing the origin story because we know the origin story. The three origin stories that everybody knows the most about, yeah i would say, in fucking history is Bruce Wayne becoming Batman, Superman coming from another planet, and Peter Parker getting bit a spider.
00:57:10
Speaker
Yeah. Everybody knows that. Yeah. You don't need to see it. No. You know, you don't. um But in this aspect... James Gunn put his faith that people know that into the audiences that we don't need to do that. They know, which I think is okay.
00:57:26
Speaker
I think it worked out perfectly and it established this world. And you said it perfectly, Mel. You said being that this world is established, people are used to metahuman. So it's not like, Oh, Oh my God. but You know, like, that's why people were like, that's why it's like, you know, when you saw that the monster was there was so many people outside.
00:57:41
Speaker
People are accustomed to these things. They're used to it. And, One of the things that people don't realize is, oh, well, if there's a monster, why aren't everybody running around and scaring? People were running around, but a lot of people weren't. Why? Because they know Superman's there. They know Superman's going to help them. They know Superman's going to save them, which he did.
00:57:58
Speaker
you know And that's the one thing that this movie also did very, very well. It showed Superman being heroic. Yes, you could be like, oh, it's corny. He saved the squirrel. He did this and that. That's Superman.
00:58:10
Speaker
Yeah. That is the character of Superman. That's what makes Superman such a noble character. um I saw this really great clip on Twitter yesterday. i meant to send it to you and I didn't.
00:58:23
Speaker
But it was two people talking and they said Superman is like, like like they said i didn I think the the the breakdown was you know Batman is the police.
00:58:35
Speaker
Superman is firefighters. They're there. They don't. Superman doesn't show up to to to ask questions and be who was was wrong. Superman's out there put fires out and make sure everyone's safe.
00:58:48
Speaker
That's what Superman is. And if you look at this movie, that's what he was. The action in this movie was very, very much him fighting in defense of people. He wasn't pushing the action forward. Yeah.
00:58:59
Speaker
He was defending. which I think to me was very, very smart um on the part of James Gunn to show how different this Superman is to maybe past iterations. And the most recent iteration in terms of feature length movie was, you know, so um Henry Cavill's Superman, which is a very polarizing Superman for a lot of people.
00:59:17
Speaker
Again, not to me because I had the wherewithal to break down this is a different Superman, but there's of people that feel like, no, it's one Superman and that's just the only Superman that needs to exist. No, it doesn't work that way. All right, everybody has their vision. So let me just go into the movie.
00:59:31
Speaker
um And let me go into the into your gripes. There was a lot going on. There was a lot going on. There was a lot going on. with with with the with ultra with With Ultraman, aka the the Hammer of Baravia, ended up being a clone of Superman.
00:59:47
Speaker
with the engineer, who I thought was really cool, her thing being involved. And then you had these two warring nations, which which is the technically the biggest controversy right now for a lot of people, which I'm sorry.
00:59:59
Speaker
I'm sorry if you have a problem with that, but guess what? That's real life. That's real life. That is real life. and if you see And if you see your country in there, then guess what? Look in the mirror because that's a problem that you might have.
01:00:12
Speaker
You understand? That's a problem you have. That's a you problem. That ain't the filmmaker's problem. That ain't movie problem. That's a you problem. Because if you see a country you'd be like oh, that's a bad country. but but But they're talking about micro. No, no, no, no, no. They're not talking about your Those are fake countries. Those countries don't exist. Now, if you see your country in there, that's on you, homie. That's on you, yeah. That's on you.
01:00:30
Speaker
And if you don't like what you see... That's on you. but and um Listen, that's all I'm going to touch upon with that. I thought that was handled extremely well because even the interview that the quote unquote little home interview that they had together, they being Lois and Clark slash Superman, where Lois was acting...
01:00:49
Speaker
Great questions. As a reporter, she was like, like, shit, this, you know, Rachel Brown hasn't did her research because she was like, the way she was going at it with, the it felt like ah like ah like one of those like sit down interviews that you have with a politician.
01:01:01
Speaker
Yeah. She was having a Zoom and she was asking him actual questions. I'm yo, like, what about this? You know, you went in you caused and you caused this action. He's like, no, I didn't cause this action. I was trying to so trying to prevent a war.
01:01:12
Speaker
But but you know did you know that this was going to be costly because they're line say I don't represent the United States. I represent me. I represent Superman. And then she was like, didn't you think there was going consequences? And he was like, people were going to die. die that is, again, you're going to hear me. You're going to see me repeat this.
01:01:29
Speaker
That is Superman. People need to understand Superman is about the greater good. He's always been a about the greater good. He's not about... you know, ask questions first, um you know, ask questions first, then answer. No, he, he goes into action because he's trying to prevent people from getting hurt or people from, from, from dying. That's it.
01:01:49
Speaker
You know what i'm saying? That's what Superman does. That's why there's a difference between Batman and Superman. There's a difference. And again, I think in this universe, you're going to really see it. You're going to really, really see it.
01:02:01
Speaker
Um, the, the, the difference between both of these guys, you know what i mean? but But again, going back to the movie, um, There was a lot of stuff going on, like we were talking about. But at the end of the movie, we find out this was all part of the plan.
01:02:17
Speaker
Lex said, I created this. I wanted there to be a lot of shit going on because I wanted the world to see you for what you are. You're a phony. you know You're this, you're that. This was literally, and this is why I said Lex Luthor is a grade A hater.
01:02:31
Speaker
He's literally trying to put impossible situations in for a man, or in this case, you know Superman, to try to save. So he was hoping that people were going to die. He was hoping that there was going to be a world war. He was hoping so many things because he wanted this image to come down of the mighty Superman.
01:02:50
Speaker
that's was That was the whole point of the plan. So as much as we could say, oh, well this movie we had a lot of stuff going on, well, that was part of the plan. And in all honesty, he handled it. He's Superman. He can handle it. But more importantly though, more importantly though, which I loved, that even Superman needs help.
01:03:09
Speaker
And that's what happened at the end scene. That end scene see the little kid lift up the flag. And part of me, honestly, part of me wanted Superman to go and save that kid. Because I was like, I want i want that kid to have that satisfaction.
01:03:21
Speaker
But then you see Guy Gardner come down and say, sorry kid.
Superman's Character and Villains
01:03:25
Speaker
He couldn't be here, but you got an upgrade. And At first i was like, damn, I didn't want that. But then I thought about it in retrospect and I was like, no, this was good because this shows the world and this shows us as audiences that Superman is Superman, but he can't save everyone.
01:03:44
Speaker
And he, Superman, also needs help, which I think message. This whole movie in all actuality is a message to us as moviegoers and as general audiences.
01:03:58
Speaker
it's it's almost like putting a mirror to us, you know? Because we We feel like we have to take so many things on as people in our everyday lives. And we're so afraid of asking for help. We're so afraid of because we don't want to look weak in front of people.
01:04:12
Speaker
And here's Superman in this whole movie who you said it yourself. You're like, oh, he took a lot of losses. Well, I think there was a reason for that. I think the there was a reason for that in the aspect of he knows that he has to not be super all the time because that can be scary.
01:04:30
Speaker
You think about it. You see the superpower being who does everything better, who's faster, who's everything more than a regular human being. That's going to scare people. So he is going to legitimately be like, no, um um you know I'm just like one of you guys. you know This is who I am. I'm gentle. I'm kind.
01:04:49
Speaker
And you saw that. You saw that in how he saved people. You saw that in how he... he you know he He turned himself in. You know what I mean? Like, he did all these things. You know? And then that that scene where he was in that prison and and and Lex killed ah the falafel guy in front of him. Yeah. and That was when we were like, oh, man.
01:05:09
Speaker
Yeah, that, man. I didn't i didn't expect that. I did not expect that. me neither. And it was like, but but again, this shows you. This is why I say, i tell people like, it's, I understand that you have your grasp about it being maybe jokey or whatever.
01:05:21
Speaker
But when this movie needs to take it or this world needs to take it to that level, it will. two late Yeah, which is good. yeah To let you know that Lex Luthor as a villain, he's not one to be trifled with.
01:05:34
Speaker
He's one that you have to be, you have to be scared of because he will go there. He doesn't care. You know, he resembles a lot of real life villains i'll just put like that you know what i mean um in regards to the other side characters that you were talking about let me just go into the justice game real quick i said it mr terrific is amazing he stole every single scene i need a movie or a tv show with mr terrific asap he actually there is a he does have a group they're called the terrifics um And Metamorpho, who's the guy that could change into thing, which is also another really cool character.
01:06:11
Speaker
He's in that and there's other characters in that. So that's a group thing. So it wouldn't surprise me if if we get maybe a terrific type thing. I don't know. Or maybe it'll be um a terrific show and maybe you see him make the group there.
01:06:24
Speaker
but he was awesome. um ah ah edie Eddie Gathehi, I think that's his name. Yeah. He's been in so much. Yeah, he's been in so much. remember he was in Twilight. um Yeah, he was in Twilight. He was in X-Men First Class. Yeah. And then he got this movie, and this was like his redemption arc.
01:06:40
Speaker
And, you know, we were talking about rollouts and stuff of the movies. And he promoted, there was an interview that he gave. And they were talking about the impact that this character has had for people. And he he took that in such a ah high regard. Because, you know, you don't you to see a a character like this, especially a black character like this, which, you know, there aren't many black superheroes out there, so you know, sadly to say, but there aren't.
01:07:06
Speaker
yeah know There are, but there should be more considering the demographic of the United States that we live in. But you see him and you see him in this light of, of of yeah, um he's very smart.
01:07:18
Speaker
he can he can he can you know He can throw hands if he needs to. You know, he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't hold himself back into knowing who he is. Like that scene at the end when he pushes the guy, he's like, Silverfin, goddammit. Like, him. was like, that was awesome.
01:07:33
Speaker
You know, but he kept his self. He's kept his cool. He didn't sound... you know, like nerdy or geeky. He kept him as his character.
01:07:43
Speaker
Yes. The voice he used, I loved that, man. I thought that was so freaking dope. realized him too. was awesome. um guide gardener Guy Guy Gardner, if you read the comics, and even if you look at some of the animated shows, that's Guy Gardner.
01:07:57
Speaker
He's a fucking asshole. he has a mouth. He has a mouth. And he's he's he's he's egotistical. And you know if Guy Gardner doesn't want to do something, he's not going to do it.
01:08:08
Speaker
You know what i mean? So he Nathan Fillion played him to a T. Perfection. That is Guy Gardner. Down to the freaking ball haircut, which is ridiculous. Which was a joke within the movie itself when Lois said that haircut is a crime or whatever. That was hilarious. That was so funny.
01:08:25
Speaker
yeah Now, to go to Heart Girl... Now, I understand your grasp Hot Girl because my wife, Alfie, she loves Hot Girl. Because you got to understand, and this is why I love, I'll say this, I'm going to preface this. or aside I said I really like this movie.
01:08:40
Speaker
I saw it twice. After seeing a second time, I love this movie. This movie, on the rewatch, I almost can guarantee you, Mel, going to love it. On the rewatch, it's just, everything.
01:08:53
Speaker
um But when I saw it initially, the first time, it reminded me of those cartoons of the Batman, Batman, the animated series, well not Batman, but Superman, the animated series, Justice League Unlimited. These are these cartoons that were out in Cartoon Network in late ninety s early 2000s.
01:09:08
Speaker
this movie reminded me of that cartoon come to life so i i put um um my wife onto this cartoon we first started dating and stuff and i still watch them they're really good they're on hbo max if anybody wants to watch them but um there's a hot girl character there now that hot girl character is not the same hot girl character in this movie There's two hot girls. There's there's um Kendra Saunders, who who this is who Isabella Merced played.
01:09:35
Speaker
And then there's a Shaira Hall. Now, they're they're both hot girl. But Shaira Hall is literally like from another planet. She comes from this planet called Thandagar.
01:09:46
Speaker
Kendra Saunders is essentially human, but She comes from of the reincarnated version of the original hot girl. So that's who she plays.
01:09:58
Speaker
So this hot girl is not that hot girl. She's different. Did I want to see more hot girl? I did. But I'll be honest with you, the time that she did, I think she did well. I think she... shed she we we do we do the Did I want to get more about the character? I think she did a part.
01:10:15
Speaker
Because again, you said it yourself, this movie is called Superman... Yeah. And where there's only so much screen time that you can give to everybody. We are going to get more hunger because she is going to come out in the next season of Peacemaker, which comes out in August. So we're going to get there.
01:10:29
Speaker
And obviously she's coming back. All these characters that we did not get enough of. they're going to come back. Remember, people, we got to understand, this is movie one in this universe.
01:10:40
Speaker
There's going to be way more movies that are going be coming out. These characters are going to be featured in either movies or TV shows or animated series. And they're going to be voiced by the same actors, too. So it's not like you're going to get a hot girl in an animated show and it's voiced by somebody else. No, it'll be Isabella Merced because that's that's what that's what James Gunn wants to do.
01:10:59
Speaker
So I was, i was surprised. I was happy with, with, um with, with Hawkgirl. I even liked that last scene that we got her in where um she goes into Baravia and she, and she takes the leader and she's flying with the leader and the leader's you're not going to do anything to me. You know, you're like Superman. And she's like, I'm not like Superman. she lets him go.
01:11:21
Speaker
And he pretty much falls to his death. Yeah. I forgot that happened. Yeah. Those are things that you got to look and you're like, there's there's there's repercussions for everything. So what's the repercussions for that going to be? So those are things where it's like, those are little nuggets that that James Gunn is kind of setting up for what could potentially be whatever it is going to be, whether it's a series or another movie.
01:11:42
Speaker
Again, this movie is the start of a lot of things. And we have to understand that. We have to go with that going forward. So yeah. I saw it twice on the rewatch.
01:11:53
Speaker
I loved it because I don't know. There's something about seeing a movie the first time and you're going in with these expectations of things. Yeah. Yeah. Going in with these eyes of like, you're trying to spot everything. Like you're, you're absorbing it, but you're not really absorbing it. You know what I'm saying? The second go around,
01:12:09
Speaker
Oh my God. Like, I think this is a movie that in all actuality, when it is out available at home or once it's on in rotation on TV, it's going to these movies that everybody's going to watch over and over and over. Because the rewatchability in this movie is so easy.
01:12:25
Speaker
it's not ah It's not like a heavy movie to watch. It's a movie you can literally put on, leave it on TV, do whatever going to on last and you just sit and watch. Because it's it's just it's such a... It holds you in.
01:12:37
Speaker
And it pulls you in. And it and it it does something. And that's the one thing I'll say about this film. i't I've been talking for a while and I'm sorry. um' Is when the movie ended, there was this one scene.
01:12:47
Speaker
There one action sequence where where um Superman defeated the Hammer Bravia. Ultraman was his clone, which is how they got into the yeah the thing.
01:12:59
Speaker
um And there's a scene where... ah Lex says, oh, send in the raptors and those those soldiers. They came in. They did this whole bubble thing. And then you saw Superman do the laser thing and Krypto was there. and I haven't got it into Krypto. Let me get into Krypto after this.
01:13:14
Speaker
But that scene... I was smiling from ear to ear. I'm like, this is a freaking cartoon come to life. This is, I'm like, it was that scene from Jurassic Park where Ian Malcolm says, you crazy son of a bitch, you did it. You did it. You did it. do i sat I was saying that to, I was saying, as a matter of fact, tweeted that meme to James go i'm like, you crazy son of a bitch, you did it.
01:13:34
Speaker
Yeah. You did it. You made this a reality. And let me just go to crypto. Crypto. Was awesome. I was afraid I was going to be annoyed by the whole crypto thing.
01:13:46
Speaker
And I think it worked so well in this movie. Like crypto is, is almost like kind of the emotional support dog for all of us watching this movie. Cause it's like, I don't have a dog. I have a cat, but I have, but I am a non-numal lover. I have a pet. So,
01:14:02
Speaker
I understand when ah when you have a pet that is cute and it's nice and it lays on you and you feel good. But then I also understand when the and when the pet misbehaves and scratches you, in my case, scratches you or bites you or makes a mess and you got to pick it up and you get annoyed.
01:14:17
Speaker
So seeing seeing Superman react to this and I'm looking at someone like, I can't believe we're getting this. like I'm like, we're getting this. This is thing. thing Like, this is in the comic books. This is in the cartoons.
01:14:30
Speaker
This shit is actually happening. And it's like, it's one of those things just like, you have to sit back and you have to be happy that you're actually watching this happen. You're seeing this. I was, as a fan, I'm looking and I'm like, this is awesome.
01:14:45
Speaker
So yeah, when the movie ended... I felt so happy. I felt so good. it made me It made me feel good. it made This movie made me feel things that hadn't felt in a while about myself.
01:14:59
Speaker
Because there's something about the speech he gave
Superman's Legacy and Future DCU Developments
01:15:03
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at the end. There's something about the speech that, um like you said, that that Pa Kent had with him, Clark, at at the farm.
01:15:12
Speaker
and And let me say something. Let me preface this with the with the with the parents. I thought they were great. i and And again, I agree with you on what you said. I want to see more. I want to see more of everything. i want to see more of the Daily Planet. I want to see more of him as Clark.
01:15:26
Speaker
I want to see more of maybe him with his parents. I want to see more of that. But you know what that means, Mel? That means you liked it because you want to see more. Yeah, that's true. You want to see more. And these parents, there's something charming about them. Yeah. Yeah.
01:15:39
Speaker
The dad and the mom and and, you know, it's funny because you go to Man of Steel. And again, I don't want to compare. i Notice I have not compared Man of Steel to this. I've only compared it in terms of just the differences.
01:15:50
Speaker
Man of Steel, the parents were Kevin Costner and Diane Lane. You look at them, you're like, oh my God, these are two fucking beautiful fucking people. This is Hollywood. This is Hollywood royalty. And then you see these two parents who are much older.
01:16:04
Speaker
You know, they don't look like freaking Costner or Diane Lane. That's the point.
01:16:13
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That's the point. Because you look at these two people and then you look at Clark and there's something about that, that I feel it, it I feel like part of that maybe made Clark into the person that he is.
01:16:28
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Growing up with yeah them. You know, again, these are, I'm not saying they're like ugly or whatever, but they're regular looking people. Yeah. And there's something about that, that I'm assuming it helped Clark. It helped raise him into the man. he Even the little verbiage that, that they use, you know, I'm going to go shine your boots and, and even Clark, Oh golly, this and that. Like, I'm like,
01:16:51
Speaker
um'm like I'm like, holy shit. James Gunn has balls to to have this character talk like this now. Because you don't hear people say that. People will that and they'll be like, oh, this corny.
01:17:02
Speaker
Again, that's the point. That's what Superman is. That's what Clark is. To Clark... His parents, how they are, that's love. that's what he That's all he knows as parents. As much as Jor-El and Lady Laura are in that video, and yeah, he saw those videos, and and and you know at the beginning of the movie, it was his connection to Krypton, but...
01:17:26
Speaker
His parents in Smallville, those two those two ah farmers, those two folks, they are the ones that raised him into who he is as Clark and as Superman. Those ideals that he carries, he learned it from these regular people.
01:17:40
Speaker
And I think that that is wonderful. I think that that serves a purpose too. To everyone out there who feels like, oh, man, I don't look like this. What do I have to offer? No, you have a lot to offer.
01:17:51
Speaker
You have a lot of love to offer to someone that you may not even know yet. you know And that's what these people did. you know they you know Clark landed on their farm, and all they did was raise this kid like their own.
01:18:01
Speaker
And then you see that beautiful montage at the end where... where he's looking and and and and Gary, robot number four, is like, oh, he loves looking at his parents. It comforts him. And then you see image. You see these beautiful images of the parents the the two parents. Yeah, that's who he, like, yeah. It's beautiful, man. Like, it's it's so beautiful. It's wonderful. It was like that difference from the beginning where it was like his, like, parents.
01:18:24
Speaker
Yeah, man. And then it was like, no, like, these are my parents. This is my family. Yeah. It's beautiful. And again, let me end it with this. Just to go with the end of the film, we see at the end that Kara Zor-El shows up.
01:18:39
Speaker
And I was like, um I'll be honest with you, I'm not ah extremely familiar with Supergirl like that. Like, I've seen her through the animated stuff, and then I saw her in the CW show that was on for a while.
01:18:51
Speaker
I'm familiar with that Kara Zor-El. So this Kara Zor-El comes in, and you see her. She's belligerent. She looks a little drunk. very does that She curses out at andd Clark and then, you know, you hear Clark kind of say, oh, well, she goes to a red planet because she's able to drink or whatever there.
01:19:07
Speaker
And, you know, that's, that's, I and i kind knew she was going to show up. I know you did and I knew she was going to up. Oh, i didn't know. Because there was a lot of rumors. So i was like, okay, I figured she was going show up. But it was still cool to see her. But what I happened to learn was, so the movie that, her movie comes out next year, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow.
01:19:26
Speaker
Um, That whole scene, that whole thing is literally ripped from that comic book. So apparently the CW Supergirl we saw, that's very, that's kind of comic book inaccurate.
01:19:39
Speaker
That's not how Kara really is. Kara's pretty much how we saw ah this Supergirl. Because remember, Kara is different because Kara actually saw Krypton or, um yeahrypton yeah, Krypton. Yeah.
01:19:53
Speaker
go down So she's dealing with a lot of grief. And I think her whole thing with the grief that she's dealing with is she goes and she drinks away her pain. I think that's what her whole thing is. And I think in her movie, we're going to see her tackle tackle those topics. And I heard that that movie is going to be very...
01:20:10
Speaker
Very rough in terms of that. And i also heard that the purpose for Crypto in this movie is for us as audiences to be used to and fall in love with him because of whatever happens in the next movie.
01:20:23
Speaker
So I'm going to leave it at that. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Yeah, there's all a big connection. But let me tell you let me just say this. um I love this movie. On the rewatch, I can guarantee you on the rewatch, you're going to love it. it's it's it's a Yeah, no, I definitely plan rewatching it. It's really, really good.
01:20:41
Speaker
um I think this movie established what it needed to do in starting this new DCU off. It did really well the weekend box office. it made $125 million, dollars which is the highest grossing Superman movie yet.
01:20:55
Speaker
And um I feel like it's it's only the jumping off point for what is going to come in this universe. i I got to give James Gunn lot of credit because this was a gargantuan task. This was not easy.
01:21:08
Speaker
this was not easy anyone Anyone that could have taken this job to do this movie would have had a very hard task to do because that's it's not easy starting a new universe, especially establishing new Superman.
01:21:22
Speaker
And David Kornseff, sir, you, my man, you are Superman. you are. Yeah, he was really good. new generation, this generation right now, you are what people going to look at as Superman. And you're going to be the Superman going forward, God willing, until however long this universe of DC you go. So um I hope you guys enjoyed the review.
01:21:44
Speaker
um that we just have perspectives i'm sorry i was really long-winded and i talked um well that's why i went first because i knew you had a lot to say i know you had a lot to take get off your chest as well yeah yeah because we didn't talk we when when we both saw the movie we didn't talk and i and i kind of like that i like that we going blind and we don't know And we don't know about what what we thought about the movie. So i thought that was pretty cool and in this episode that we did that. But, you know, I'm glad that we both saw the movie and we enjoyed and we had a good time. and And it gave us something to to to ponder and to look forward to in this future of the DCU.
01:22:17
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really excited to see where where it goes. Yeah. you know i mean, I don't know because I know he wanted it to do... like James Gunn wanted to direct Superman. I don't know if he's going to direct others or if it's just... its Is this the only one he wants or he just wants to do Superman movies or was it just this s one? hasn't said.
01:22:34
Speaker
He hasn't said. he's said so He hasn't said. I think he's he's... Being that he's the president of this of the DCU Studios, I think he can do whatever he wants, but he also can do everything. I know he's involved with the overall writing of the story. It's kind of like how Kevin Feige is involved with the...
01:22:50
Speaker
Yeah, he's a whole thing. So he's going to. So I think he'll he will direct certain things, but I think he'll just, you know, he'll produce, which is what he's supposed to do. Oversee the machine that will start to to start going.
01:23:03
Speaker
Yeah. yes Well, ah yeah look i yeah, like I said, I really i did really like the movie. I i did. really much. um I agree with everything you said. I did really like it. um So yeah, I'm excited. I'm really excited to see where the story goes, where, you know, whatever's next, whatever comes out of the DCEU. Like, it's going to be really great. I'm excited for this new era. Watch Mel. I'm telling you, watch Peacemaker. Peacemaker comes out next month. Yes, now that I have my thing, going to watch it.
01:23:30
Speaker
Yeah, Peacemaker is a really good show. Season one was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, which is very, very good. I think you should watch it Someone said that Peacemaker 2 talks about the events of this movie.
01:23:42
Speaker
So I'm like, oh, that's cool. I love the connections and stuff. And he was in it. That was funny. I liked that. It was all little bits and bits of it. So definitely, I know that's on my list of things to watch.
01:23:54
Speaker
um But guys, ah we're going to wrap up here. ah Coming up in a couple weeks, we've got got a but got a bit of vacation in and out, so I'm not sure when this will be up, but ah Fantastic Four is next.
01:24:07
Speaker
yeah That's the next big, the last big movie, I guess, of the summer is comes out... This Friday? Next Friday. Next Friday, sorry. Next Friday, yeah. Comes out next Friday. I will not be here, so I'm probably not going to be watching this movie probably wait until... shit I actually have no idea why I'm going to watch it.
01:24:25
Speaker
I have no idea. maybe Well, that'll be our our next episode. I'm assuming we'll be that. Yeah. um so But you probably won't hear from us until the... eighth because I'm going to be off.
01:24:37
Speaker
I'm going to away on the first. So probably they so it'll be a little bit later of a review, but I hope you guys will stick around to listen to that because I am very much excited to see that. Of course, um I'm hoping and I know all of us are hoping that it is good because if it is not.
01:24:51
Speaker
oh lord it's gonna be is marvel back is marvel really bad i don't know what's going on so i hope we'll find out if marvel actually is really back so um i'm crossing my fingers for that to be just i just want it to be really good i really really do uh but yeah guys if you liked this if you liked i want to say this video because i'm so used to being on youtube if you liked this episode Make sure you give us a follow, leave us a rating, five star, four star, anything would be nice. Just not a one.
01:25:19
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Thank you. ah ah And give us a review. Let us know what you're thinking of about the podcast and, you know, things that you would like us to talk about more as we, you know, this big summer season comes to a close, right?
01:25:31
Speaker
Plus movies will be coming out. So always nice to have some things up our sleeve. um I know we mentioned that we were going to talk about the Emmy nominations, but we did not have enough time in this episode. um i don't know. Maybe we'll chat about it at a different time.
01:25:44
Speaker
But or maybe, you know, maybe we could also chat about it when the app Emmys actually go down because that that could work. too That could work, too. You know, we'll talk about, you know, who won and snubs and things like that.
Emmy Snubs Discussion
01:25:56
Speaker
um The one thing I want to say about it before i do wrap up, it's going to be last parting words, is that I am very upset that no one from Andor got nominated in any of the acting categories. I think that is blasphemy.
01:26:07
Speaker
um it its I'm glad it at least got best, you know, series, best drama series, and it did get a ah lot of other things as well. But the acting in that show was remarkable. And so many characters deserve to be on there. I don't think the White Lotus needed to have five people nominated in its category.
01:26:26
Speaker
um I don't think that as much as I love Pedro, I don't think he should have been nominated for a lead role in a show that he was not in for the whole season. I think that should have been Diego Luna's, that should have been Diego Luna's nomination.
01:26:40
Speaker
And that really hurts me because they're both Latinos, right? You know, you want to support that. And Pedro is amazing. He's, he was amazing as Joel. And I have a feeling the reason why he got that was for that, you know,
01:26:52
Speaker
one episode that he really was the main focal point in that season. So, I'm really upset about that because I really think Diego Luna is literally and or the show.
01:27:05
Speaker
He should have been nominated for best male actor. and And the fact that he wasn't is a huge snub and a bit of a disappointment, even though I know it was a very, very hard year. But those are my main thoughts about that because it's just really, really ah upset me. I think, I think um also was his name. um Skarsgård.
01:27:24
Speaker
Bill? Is it Bill? ah bill yeah I think he had no idea why he was nominated. At least. No, Stellan. Stellan. Stellan. That's what it is. Stellan. There's too many. There's too many brothers, sons, brothers, all these things. I can't remember who's who. um Stellan.
01:27:38
Speaker
The fact that he did. I know Forrest Whitaker got one. Yeah. Forrest Whitaker got one. Yeah. At least he somebody got something. But the fact that Genevieve O'Reilly didn't get anything.
01:27:50
Speaker
Like, what in the actual hell were people smoking? I don't know. don't get that either. But I also didn't... Oh, nice. I love seeing the... smoking cat on my screen. Beautiful. Thank you. I know that's how you feel about it too, right? It was ass.
01:28:06
Speaker
Yeah, he said, see, see, yeah, Smokey feels the same way. Yeah, exactly. Smokey saw Andor with me, so he feels the same way. Yeah, he's like, how dare they? Yes. ah But anyway, guys like I said, follow us, give us a review, rate us, all that jazz, and thanks so much for listening, and we will see you guys in the next episode.
01:28:24
Speaker
Bye. ay