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Join Jeff and Sam for a conversation to close out the year.
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Podcast Kickoff and Banter
00:00:00
Jeff Rogers
if are you Are you ready for this? me get my serious voice on. No, that's not the right sound. What is it?
00:00:11
Jeff Rogers
I don't know. Are you ready for this? dannna dinn in it Yeah. Okay. In three, two, and one.
00:00:22
Jeff Rogers
Hello, Sam. Hi, Jeffrey.
00:00:46
Jeff Rogers
Seems like we have a choice to make. All of that was being recorded. So when I looked and I was going to hit the record button, it was already come down. Leave it in Leave it in. That was good.
Weather Stories and Cold Adventures
00:00:59
Jeff Rogers
Great. But I still want someone to please tell me what the actual like thing is like.
00:01:05
Jeff Rogers
You know, you ready for this? There is a sound that happens after that, but it's not the sound that I first made, which is the mission. You ready this? du na donen done No, that's the mission impossible thing that I just did. It's a song though. It is. Welcome to the Jeff and Sam show. I'm Jeff. And I'm Sam. And we are just, i don't know, we're just here to chat.
00:01:25
Jeff Rogers
We're going to have a little chat. This is another one of our walk in the parks. We're going to walk in the park. In our minds. We're walking in the park. Not outside because it's like 12 degrees. Too cold. But today it was warmer. Ish, yeah. I mean, it's weird. We had just that cold snap, and then we're going to have like a near 60 degree Christmas. Not great. Not great. I mean, obviously, you guys are listening after Christmas, so maybe it'll be completely different. It'll be snowing by then. Hopefully. Yeah. I mean, I don't like the cold, but like if it's going to be this damn cold, then at least make it worth it. But the cold that we had this weekend was like so cold that the whole time I'm wondering if like, how do they do it in the Dakotas?
00:02:08
Jeff Rogers
but Listen, one time, one time I made the absolutely horrible life decision to visit Rachel when she was living in Chicago proper. Okay. I went for New Year's.
00:02:21
Jeff Rogers
What was the temp? Fuck all i don't know. It was horrendous. And this was before I had my Nana coat. Okay. So I'm out there just trying to live my best life. Okay. It was heinous. It was.
00:02:34
Jeff Rogers
The kind of cold that seeps into your soul and your bones ache and everything was bad. and I just, I don't understand how people live like that. and don't either. The amount of depression i would have and just not being able to to go outside and and breathe in fresh air without my lungs crystallizing. Do you know when I lived in Seattle, it wasn't that cold in Seattle, but it was still Seattle. And the winter that I lived in Seattle, it was like the rainiest winter on record. It's not that it rains a lot in Seattle because it is mostly just a gentle like it's a drizzle. But it's like there are these low clouds that just stay there for months and months and months. And so it was like.
00:03:20
Jeff Rogers
A little too much for me. And around March of that year, when it was still raining and raining, I got wasted. i got a bottle of wine and just got shit-faced. Wasted. Woke up the next morning with a plane ticket to Costa Rica. Yeah.
00:03:35
Jeff Rogers
Yeah, I did. That's amazing. I went to Costa Rica. it was i need It was so hot in Costa Rica. i loved that. loved it. Every minute of it. Yeah. Went to a um Manuel something national park.
Costa Rica and Seattle's Weather
00:03:52
Jeff Rogers
Oh.
00:03:53
Jeff Rogers
And you could go to like, first of all, was offered like cocaine and then a female prostitute, a female sex worker. And I was like, no and no. On so many levels. you. I'm appreciative, but no. guys are so kind. Very kind of And you could take a trail through National Park. Oh, I love that for And there were sloths hanging over.
00:04:19
Jeff Rogers
it was so cool. But then there were also like... There was a group of kids like a ahead of me, and they were walking through the park. tourists? They were also tourists. Maybe, I don't know, was national park, maybe it was a class, right? What word did just say?
00:04:35
Jeff Rogers
What word did I just use? Tourist. Ew. Can I say it like that? I don't know. i can't remember. that was too far back. Okay. Anyway, so they're walking through, and they're kids being kids, right? And we hear this sound that is like a Jurassic Park animal.
00:04:54
Jeff Rogers
Dinosaur. Through the woods. A Jurassic Park dinosaur. And it was a howler monkey. Oh, no. I did not know that. It's like the worst, one of the worst sounds in nature to hear. so I'm walking through this park going, oh, my God.
00:05:08
Jeff Rogers
Something's about to, like, open those trees up and come down. And those kids are going to get it because they're making all the sounds. You know what I mean? oh God. That is terrible. i just that's not something I want to hear. don't think. So then I went back to Seattle where it was still rainy and cloudy. Then you took a travel assignment elsewhere. Then there was like a day when the weatherman was like, there's finally going be sunshine.
00:05:33
Jeff Rogers
And it was like a high in the 50s or 50 finally because it just stays cold forever. And so when I went out and there was sunshine, i went to lay in the front yard just to lay in the sunshine. All the neighbors down the street were laying in their front yard to take the sun in. But I'll tell you what, like as – It's that low cloud coverage and that continuous just mist that's out there. a mist. Yeah. That makes everything out there so much more stunning. The greens are just breathtaking. The blues are breathtaking. Even the white looks cleaner. Like I love it out there. The Pacific Northwest, man.
00:06:14
Jeff Rogers
It's one of the most beautiful places I've lived. It's great. Absolutely one of the most beautiful places. And
Travel Tales: Rafting and London Memories
00:06:22
Jeff Rogers
you can also take that beautiful greenery and the evergreen trees, drive two hours into the desert.
00:06:30
Jeff Rogers
where it's still a highlight of my year this year, going back to Oregon to raft the Deschutes River with my cousin Jace. He is so funny, Sam. You would love him. like he is He was a cop in Vegas for 25 years. That so in itself is... Yo, he's got the cop mentality in that he stays you know armed, right? If need to be.
00:06:56
Jeff Rogers
But then he looks like a mountain man. But he is a big old liberal. So people don't, they don't know what to get when they're like, what's happening?
00:07:07
Jeff Rogers
What's happening with you're giving a lot of vibes. He's like a huge liberal and all of the stickers on his big old truck are just like, you're like, what? Sir, i don't understand. Make up your mind. i don't know. but yeah. Please. Caught for 25 years in Vegas. Big old liberal. that Looks like a mountain man.
00:07:28
Jeff Rogers
We had so much fun rafting down the Deschutes this year. Probably a highlight of the year for me. That's awesome. would say Well, you know what I realized is, i mean, shit, Jeff, it's been almost a year since we were in London, you know? God, also a highlight of this past year.
00:07:48
Jeff Rogers
so much. London, England, Notting Hill, Notting Hill, Mike's Cafe in Notting Hill yes forever will be one of my, like that's a thing you will remember. Forever. 10 years from now, we're going remember Mike's Cafe. Oh, definitely. Well, we had to go back so that we can put our picture on the wall because we forgot to leave. Maybe we need to tag them.
00:08:13
Jeff Rogers
Okay. And like the Instagram post. Okay. I got to find them. Alan. Alan. We're going to get you to find them. But that. It was good. The four of us. Me, you, Ashley, Alan. The perfect breakfast.
00:08:26
Jeff Rogers
Riding the tube. We did. Going to see One of my favorite things Lena and I planned was when we bought the tickets to Book of Mormon. Oh. Like to at the Prince of Wales Theater.
00:08:38
Jeff Rogers
Sit on the front row. of the show so when we walked in the theater everybody only lena and i knew that we were all headed down to the very front row and what a special performance that was such an experience right you were so close to the performers so close they were great and honestly they were so good yeah Yeah. You could see their sweat.
Humor and Table Topics Introduction
00:09:05
Jeff Rogers
Yes. The spit coming out of their mouth. You could see it all. ah little balloo
00:09:10
Jeff Rogers
I don't know what that sound was. It was a sad turkey gobble. That's all I got right now. That's all the gobble I have right now. Don't be a sad turkey. I will not be a sad turkey. a happy turkey. You are a happy turkey. I'm a happy turkey. Oh, my God.
00:09:27
Jeff Rogers
What you got? What do I got? What I got? What do you want? I don't know. Oh, well, oh yeah, no So i Can i ask you a question first? Yeah.
00:09:39
Jeff Rogers
What is your, we're picking from, we' oh my God, I dropped it. Okay, but the question was from the little game that we have called Table Topics.
00:09:50
Jeff Rogers
What is your favorite thing to order online? Oh no. Books.
00:09:56
Jeff Rogers
Books. Like a hardback book, a hardcover book? A hardback book, yeah. Like, I just, I mean, obviously nothing replaces going to a bookstore or anything like that. But, like, it's just, I know that, like, you buy it and then you when when it's when it comes, you get to read it. And then you can reread it as many times as you want. And then, like, it's just it's like it just keeps giving, know? Yes.
00:10:23
Jeff Rogers
Well, that was an easy what about yours? My favorite thing to buy
Shopping Preferences and Travel Plans
00:10:26
Jeff Rogers
online. um Don't get weird here. I'm not going to get weird. I'm on a microphone. i would say my favorite thing to buy online might be a book or it might be clothes.
00:10:44
Jeff Rogers
I actually like, I prefer to buy stuff online clothes wise. So it might be clothes. Okay. Yeah. That's good. I feel like there's, that's like, I only buy clothes online.
00:10:56
Jeff Rogers
guess I don't really. Well, it's so easy to like send them back. If they don't fit, you can order the other size that you probably should have ordered the first time, but you were hopeful, but you were hopeful.
00:11:08
Jeff Rogers
I got this stuff. I ordered the pants. Did you notice those pants that I had on last night? They were the... um the The good one, the pants. The travel pants that I'm going to wear in Egypt. Yes. Nice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just i bought a whole bunch of stuff for Egypt the other day.
00:11:24
Jeff Rogers
and it all came in.
Movie and TV Series Favorites
00:11:26
Jeff Rogers
Haven't tried any of it on. But should work. Should work. um You want to do another one? Yeah. That was such a good one. Yeah, um but I have to, what was going to say? Okay, so last week, or I don't know when the episode, movies, talking about movies and stuff, right? So um recently, like, I just, I don't know why, but I just decided that I wanted to, like, watch some, not technically classics, but, like, some good quality movies, right? So I watched 300 again, which, if you haven't seen it recently, watch it, because
00:12:01
Jeff Rogers
It's just so well done. It's so good. And the queen in that thing. I don't know what that is. You don't know what 300 is? oh This is Sparta.
00:12:14
Jeff Rogers
What? it's the It's a story about the 300 Spartan warriors that go and take on the Persian army and like hold them off. and Oh my God, watch it. You will love it because there's something called the 300 workout or something like that because the men that are part of this group movie had to do this workout that made all of them and their their ages range from probably i don't know early 20s to 50s or something these actors and every single feckin one of them is has so many muscles i didn't even know it was possible but they walk around and like basically the equivalent of a fucking speedo and a cape okay this is called 300 300
00:13:01
Jeff Rogers
Gerard Butler is King Leonidas. You love yourself some Gerard Butler. And he does they just do such an extraordinary job. It is... um It's very different because of the way that the graphics are. It almost is like comic book-y.
00:13:20
Jeff Rogers
um There's like the the moments are slowed down and like when someone gets injured, the blood like splatters in such a way, but it's such a really great
00:13:32
Jeff Rogers
like fight movie, you know? and so obviously I was on that kind of vibe. So then I watched gladiator, which also just amazing. i went to see the second one with you this year. Yeah. So i I just, the original, the first one just still blows me away. So good. And then of course, you know, ah keep going down this path of violence. And so then I get onto my Viking shows and that you know,
00:14:02
Jeff Rogers
The actual show Vikings um is so incredible. And everything kind of got weird with that and things got messy.
00:14:15
Jeff Rogers
But the first few seasons are just so extraordinary. And then they came out with The Last Kingdom a handful of years ago. um Actually, it was probably far more than that now.
00:14:26
Jeff Rogers
But yeah, I mean, Last Kingdom blows Vikings out of the water and it's just so cool. I haven't seen that one either. Oh, you should watch Last Kingdom. Again, you'll like it because it's a bunch of pretty men, right?
00:14:37
Jeff Rogers
That reminds me of the show Spartacus. Did you watch Spartacus? So Spartacus came out around-ish after-ish 300, I believe. And that was the same vibe.
00:14:48
Jeff Rogers
um I didn't watch Spartacus.
Literary Loves and Family Traditions
00:14:51
Jeff Rogers
But thought everyone said that like it didn't end. I don't remember the ending. i mean, i remember the hot men. There was a lot of like...
00:15:02
Jeff Rogers
Homosexuality. Homosexuality. I was supposed to homosexual. I approved. It was great. I don't know if there's any...
00:15:10
Jeff Rogers
No, this is a lot of these are like just super like hot men. Well, I mean, you love your hot men. Oh, yeah. I love him um i mean, neith no, I can appreciate like the work that they put in to make their bodies look like that.
00:15:28
Jeff Rogers
It's it when did 300 come out? Oh, my God. Okay, you're going like this question. I think I already know the answer to it. I know i know the answer to it. And I will be honest with you if I do not know the answer to it. Okay.
00:15:42
Jeff Rogers
What is your favorite book to reread? What do you think my answer Harry Potter? Actually, no. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, it's, um I don't know then.
00:15:54
Jeff Rogers
You do. You just don't care. i don't know the name of it. It's the fantasy thing. that are What is the name of it? Throne of Glass. Yes. Okay. Yeah. is Harry Potter not up there for you? no, no, it is. It absolutely is. And I will read that time and time again. But ever since I have delved into this new age fantasy creation that has happened, like, i think that i would If I had to pick, I would say Throne of Glass is my favorite one to reread, but that might just be because it's still kind of novel to me. you know
00:16:25
Jeff Rogers
Harry Potter, I've been reading every single year since it came out. So I was pretty close, though. Oh, yeah. Yes. Okay. And I i mean, I still reread it all the time.
00:16:35
Jeff Rogers
Can you guess my favorite book to reread? I don't have a specific genre that I love. i do like horror a lot. Yeah.
00:16:47
Jeff Rogers
That's not my favorite to reread. And I think we've had a conversation about this book only one time. and I think I gave you a copy of the book because I had two.
00:16:59
Jeff Rogers
want me to give you a hint? or Just tell me because I know it because I know that you gave me a copy of it. but I can't pull it right now. will show you the book. Is it sitting right here? Because I just reread it. Honest to God, I picked that question and I was like, hell yeah.
00:17:13
Jeff Rogers
The Alchemist. Yes, yes. Have you read The Alchemist? i have. but Is something in this book is like... um magic to me and i think to most of the world i think this is one of the most translated read books in the history of the world it's one that resonates with so many people god damn and it's to realize one's destiny is a person's only obligation from the alchemist that's the quote on the back it's just it's like um i don't know i don't
00:17:47
Jeff Rogers
like you and harry potter or you and the throne of glass it's just something that i can dive into at any point it's a comfort thing yeah yeah wonder if it's good on audio you know let me try that give it a give it a whirl a whirl and that's my favorite one literally when i picked that out i was like shit it's it's right here are you gonna do i don't know we're just we're just going with the flow are going with the flow
00:18:13
Jeff Rogers
What is your favorite family tradition, which I think is appropriate during this time of year? Oh, um that would be when I was a kid. We used to watch, ah I think we've talked about it on the show, National Lairn Poon's Christmas Vacation. We used to watch that when I was a kid into adulthood. My sister still watches that.
00:18:37
Jeff Rogers
And I probably will watch it again this year because if there was ever a movie that was made about my family, and I think a lot of families could say this too, it was that movie. Clark Griswold and my dad, Ronnie, have so much in common. Like when Clark would not ask for directions to the Wally world,
00:19:01
Jeff Rogers
And that it just, and you know, my uncle, shitter's full, shitter's full, shitter's full. So our family is that family.
00:19:13
Jeff Rogers
All the good, all the bad, all the crazy, all the everything that is my family. And that's what I love. That's good. Yeah. That's a good one. We're messy. I love it. Yeah. But you're not messy like ah Mary Shelley.
00:19:25
Jeff Rogers
No. that whole plan of people. Oh, Amanda reached out to me after that show, and she enjoyed the show. She loved that I did that one. if you That's one that came out in December, The Story of Mary Shelley. If you haven't listened to that...
00:19:40
Jeff Rogers
It is one of the top five of my favorite stories that I've told because I've known that story for years and I just didn't know the details of it. And so doing it on the show, like I said, that's why i love doing this show, because we get to like learn about stuff that we want to learn about. Yeah, I think that that would probably be my top like that you've told as well. One of my top five. And Amanda, she her um master's degree is in English. Oh, wow. I didn't think about telling that to somebody with a master's degree. I just told my version of my, you know what I mean? But loved it, didn't she? loved it. Yeah. She loved it. And i said to her, i was like, God damn, they were a mess. She said, of course they were.
00:20:21
Jeff Rogers
of course they were. I mean, look at the writing. Yo. Yikes. I still, the brilliance in Frankenstein is still astonishing to me. ah Well, like Frank, the story of Frankenstein is another one like the story of the alchemist that she like I don't know. I'm passionate. I'm impassioned right now.
00:20:40
Jeff Rogers
The story of Frankenstein is like the story of the alchemist. It resonates with people. For eons. I don't know about the alchemist, but the Frankenstein 1817. right? She is. crazy right she
00:20:53
Jeff Rogers
this there's this ah There's a lot of pressure that comes with this next question. You ready? What's the funniest joke you know? ah
00:21:04
Jeff Rogers
Well, I do know that you and Ashley... Oh, no! No! Spent all Friday night it tell ah texting each other jokes.
00:21:19
Jeff Rogers
I do know that... I just showed that to Chris today at work. And he was like, this is horrible, but he's laughing so hard.
00:21:29
Jeff Rogers
my funniest joke...
00:21:32
Jeff Rogers
I'd have to think about that one. I don't have any off the top of my head. All right. What about you? Oh, I don't know because the only ones running through my head now. Are those? Yeah, that's like jaded my brain too a little bit.
00:21:44
Jeff Rogers
I think before I heard some of those, i could have given you. And these are, I can't say them. No. Even I have a line there. God damn it.
00:21:57
Jeff Rogers
oh god i do i will tell you this okay favorite jokes some of my favorite jokes involve joan rivers okay that's weird no okay she is like she's a you know oh oh oh i thought you meant that they're like no part of the joke she was so self-deprecating that she told told jokes about herself which is what so yeah i don't know maybe that but what i thought you meant was like the punch line was joan rivers or like the question the joke question was like what does joan rivers eat for dinner that's oddly specific it's like i don't know that many with joan rivers and yeah she's probably my favorite comedian that's good yeah but okay yeah we can't ask you that nope absolutely not
00:22:44
Jeff Rogers
What about that box? Okay, let's go. Let's do it. the That heater works. are you Guys, the um temperature is set. The thermostat is set to hell right now. And it is lovely. It's currently set on hell.
00:23:02
Jeff Rogers
We're in hell. Welcome to life with Sam. I can't. You're too much. Liar. oh Oh, oh, oh, no. This is a good one. oh God. This is a good one.
00:23:14
Jeff Rogers
What food brings back good memories?
00:23:19
Jeff Rogers
I want to say I know your answer to that, but I don't. and What do you think it is? I take it back. What do you think it is? Pizza. Yeah. Is it? But not like my dad, like not, not like just any pizza, you know, like you can't give me a Domino's and be like, ah, memories. You know, it's my dad's pizza.
00:23:34
Jeff Rogers
He's, uh, we talked about it obviously on an episode before, but he's been making pizza since he was 15. Um, and he has spent every year since perfecting his own,
00:23:46
Jeff Rogers
recipe for the dough. My mom makes the sauce and over the years he has fully committed to this and it's something that it's it's not just the pizza itself because the pizza is extraordinary but it's the experience you know he makes it's a whole day thing and he makes so many dough balls and then he has to let the dough balls rise. So he makes this little tower of pizza trays with the dough balls on it. And instead of getting some sort of like actually created thing to do this, He stacks the trays with like little plastic cups.
00:24:24
Jeff Rogers
And so then the it's the whole experience. Yeah, it's incredible. And he really, y'all, he did this. just He did this for hours. Yeah. For our pleasure, just for us to eat and enjoy. People milling about, talking, making made-to-order pizzas. you know and and And Sam's dad, if you ever hear anything that we say...
00:24:48
Jeff Rogers
on this show that white pizza yo i'm done i'm done it's good right and i told you before i had fancy ass pizza in italy from a fancy ass place and it was delicious it does not compare period yeah it it i think that it's one of those things that that to me is the people who have experienced it i think that it it sticks with them whether they're still in my life or not like That is an experience you watching, watching you and Kayla and Kelsey take pictures and videos of him.
00:25:28
Jeff Rogers
like spinning and tossing the dough and all that kind of stuff like that's a memory that will stick with me just the pure joy on your guys face and he he is he it's pure joy for him too that was the whole thing that was just kind of like uh he's just what do we do we do something because we were over there thinking are we supposed to get up and help him with this like what's our role in this and Honestly, we learned quickly. we were like, we're going to let him do his thing yeah because this is his way of showing affection and showing, like, I want you to be happy. And we got that. Yeah.
00:26:03
Jeff Rogers
And for me. i wonder what it is. What food. shall i get Shall I guess? Always brings back good memories. You're going to guess one of them. Okay. but That's an easy one. Okay. Can you guess the second one?
00:26:18
Jeff Rogers
Tacos. Tacos. Biscuit and gravy. Biscuits and gravy. No, you never told me about this. Okay. So my mom, almost every day of my life when I was in high school and after, and every time the whole family descended on our house, which was often, we would have...
00:26:36
Jeff Rogers
Sometimes 16 people. yeah Maybe I'm stretching it. Maybe I'm not. Maybe it was more. I don't remember. But oftentimes it was so many people over. my mom would get up and make pans of homemade biscuits. She never had a recipe.
00:26:51
Jeff Rogers
It was all in how the dough felt in her hands. that's That is something that separates like... chefs you know and she did and she made the biscuits and gravy and oftentimes before we went to school she'd make a whole pan of biscuits and we weren't going to eat that you know the whole pan and so after school ah before band practice we had like a 30 minute gap and i would take people would load up in my car we would go to my house because it was a four minute drive my friends would eat all the biscuits and then we would go back to band practice so that yeah And then, of course, the hamburgers from my dad. And yeah we just had this conversation and I said that my favorite food was hamburgers.
00:27:35
Jeff Rogers
And then I specifically said from my dad, and he might listen to this. On death row, what is your last meal? I want a hamburger and I want my dad to make it. You want your dad's hamburgers. And years ago at work on the night shift, this man named Ed, who's like a very thoughtful, kind man, but like he and I had nothing in common. So a conversation was often difficult between us.
00:27:58
Jeff Rogers
but We liked each other, but just there was just nothing in common, right? And he said, what makes your dad's hamburger so special? And I was like, huh? Honestly, i don't like... I said, Ed, I think it's the fact that he enjoys making them for me and the love that he puts into that hamburger.
00:28:18
Jeff Rogers
That is the thing I love most about the hamburger. It's a hamburger,
Life Choices and Personal Growth
00:28:22
Jeff Rogers
yeah but it's made by my dad, yeah you know? Yeah. Yep. And I mean, it's that it's that specifically, you know, like if I make my dad's pizza, like, yeah, it's good, but it's not the same thing. Yeah. Because it's about this this social and emotional relationship.
00:28:41
Jeff Rogers
Yes. Interaction that that goes into the experience of eating your dad's hamburger, eating my dad's pizza like that's because I can make the biscuits. I know by how the dough feels that how ah how it's supposed to be. So I can technically make the biscuits. Sometimes they don't turn out the best. My sister can make the biscuits well.
00:29:00
Jeff Rogers
And when I go home, she makes she made them. Yes. Yeah. That's mom's recipe that mom never knew she had that she never knew she had. Yeah.
00:29:12
Jeff Rogers
Okay.
00:29:13
Jeff Rogers
It's upside down.
00:29:16
Jeff Rogers
All right. I think this is appropriate for like starting a new year. Okay. So when you look back at your life so far, what's something you're surprised that you did chose, tried or became?
00:29:29
Jeff Rogers
Did chose tried or became.
00:29:34
Jeff Rogers
Um,
00:29:36
Jeff Rogers
um, I think for me it would be like, am I surprised I became a nurse? Maybe.
00:29:48
Jeff Rogers
but i like that. i like the, so I don't think I'm surprised by that. um,
00:29:54
Jeff Rogers
I think, im and it's surprise, right? What are you the most surprised about? That I chose? Did, chose, tried, or became. so it can be something as simple as like a food that you tried that you never thought would. no. Okay, I tell you. I'm the most surprised that I got into a helicopter in Kathmandu, Nepal,
00:30:20
Jeff Rogers
And I flew up Lukla Airport, which is halfway up to Mount Everest. It's the most dangerous airport in the world. i wonder why. And then from there, another helicopter came in and took us 20,000, like 19,500 feet hypoxic.
00:30:37
Jeff Rogers
up to right beside mount everest and we were all so hypoxic i remember looking at your location at that time i was like the fuck he's on down everest i decided to go for a little hike know i was like wow that wasn't on the plan so ashley when i was so that was i was like a little bit like nervous at first to do this right but and and then i was like honest to god when i was up there i was like well if i go down
00:31:09
Jeff Rogers
They're going to know where I'm at, period, end of story, and I'm going to be staying up here for a long time. All you got to do is cling to your phone and we'll be able to find you. Yeah. Well, and then when I was up there, Ashley was following my location as well. So you were too? Yes. Ashley was following my location as well. And I have a picture of the Find My Friends app.
00:31:29
Jeff Rogers
I'm in one corner of my phone and it says Mount Everest in the other corner of the picture. i think I should do that picture before. Yeah. But saw it in real life. So surprised that I did that.
00:31:42
Jeff Rogers
yeah that's ballsy to me that is like um us going in the hot air balloon really yeah a little anxiety about that oh i'm fucking but ecstatic that anxiety always turns into like it amps me up a little bit you know what i mean you knew i was gonna shimmy was gonna shimmy oh my god what about you yeah ah What am I surprised that I did chose, tried, or became? i' am surprised that I ever slept with dudes.
00:32:15
Jeff Rogers
Oh, fair answer. I mean, i tried. Just couldn't really fix what it is.
00:32:24
Jeff Rogers
That's the most honest fucking answer ever there. i mean, it's so true. like it's And honestly, i think that it's just it's that Catholic girl thing.
00:32:36
Jeff Rogers
Growing up, I was like, well, I have to. I can't. I can't. I need to sleep with dudes. That's what I'm supposed to be But I'm surprised that I ever tried that because Why?
00:32:48
Jeff Rogers
You gave it a go. You gave it a go. Well, I'll tell you why. but Please do. No, I'm not going to there. I'm not going to go. Look, Sam just dropped everything. She knocked the microphone. Because I'm just so happy that you're not sharing that with me.
00:33:05
Jeff Rogers
I'll tell you why. oh my God. Oh, my God. That was a good answer. that was good. All right. Let's see.
00:33:19
Jeff Rogers
Pick the one you want. But the this game of cards is called Tell Me More. Don't do it. Don't do it. Does he have a card? I can't.
00:33:29
Jeff Rogers
You're not allowed. Not until you have seen it. I can't not do it. Tell me more. Tell me more. I hate it. And guys, and for those of you who don't know, every time.
00:33:43
Jeff Rogers
Like, does he have a car? Every time. I can't. I can't. Like, I'm trying to contain it. Every time. And it just comes out. No, but I can't. This is the problem, is that people, some people don't know. Some people hear that, and that also goes to our brains. When someone says, tell me more, we immediately start singing a song. But,
00:34:00
Jeff Rogers
People don't know that you have never watched that movie. So you do it just because you know that that exists, but like...
00:34:10
Jeff Rogers
I swear I just looked at the name of the card game that that you have, and that's... I know. it It's because as soon as I picked it up or I pointed to it, I expected you to do that then. So I'm proud of you. Oh, okay. For holding out as long as you did.
00:34:28
Jeff Rogers
Oh, I think you can answer this for me. Okay. Okay. What's something you've worked really hard on recently? ah Your... Oh, your... Your mental...
00:34:42
Jeff Rogers
like well-being your ability to let shit go is that right yeah what about can you answer that for me well we've already and i feel like i yeah it's the same it's that you know um good mental health good physical health boom and boom just becoming one with yourself you're doing really well at that you too
00:35:09
Jeff Rogers
Better hurry up, I'm gonna sing it again. Oh no, oh God. I'm gonna sing it again.
00:35:19
Jeff Rogers
I wanna ask this question and I feel like because it's us, your answer is going to just be me. knowing that it's completely inaccurate. What's something you're in the process of outgrowing?
00:35:35
Jeff Rogers
Oh, that's a good one. What about you Can you answer it?
00:35:40
Jeff Rogers
Something that we're in the process of outgrowing. a i would say, oh I got one. Like um stepping on a scale.
00:35:53
Jeff Rogers
I don't give a fuck about it anymore. ah work out so hard. You do i I'm comfortable with my... I've always had a like up and down with my weight. Yeah. I don't i do so much now. i don't even care about that. Yeah.
00:36:06
Jeff Rogers
You know? Yeah. So I've outgrown it. That's good. Yeah. I've outgrown it. I like that. Yeah. um
00:36:13
Jeff Rogers
I think it goes back to like the thing that I'm really proud of, right? it's I've outgrown the...
00:36:19
Jeff Rogers
said the that like,
00:36:23
Jeff Rogers
what's it, what is it? Like what would I call it? It's that need to like make people care. You know, someone if someone doesn't care, they're not going to. And me getting sad, hurt, mad, whatever about it is is only going to hurt me. So being able to move past that is a fucking,
00:36:46
Jeff Rogers
just takes a whole weight off of my scale. I am also, ah saw this thing on Instagram recently. It's this man. I don't know if he's a therapist. I don't really understand what he is, but he puts, he makes these posts and he addresses them to dear gay boy. Okay.
00:37:06
Jeff Rogers
And it is talking to the kid you were. Okay. It's talking to gay men and it's talking about, it's talking to the kid you used to be. And it was like, dear gay boy you grew up thinking that you needed to make everybody around you happy.
00:37:23
Jeff Rogers
You needed to be the least threatening person in the room out of fear for being what bullied or whatever. yeah That's also stuff. it's i was When I saw that video, I was like, oh my God.
00:37:38
Jeff Rogers
be the be the happiest person, make everybody like you. was like, oh, that one hits home. yeah yeah So I've been working on that too.
00:37:50
Jeff Rogers
You and you, that's where we differ because you give no fucks. Zero. Zero. And that's a folks that's something I admire about you. is that I make people hate me just by existing. That's good. Admirable.
00:38:08
Jeff Rogers
You walk in people like people, like people have a very specific reaction to me when I come in, they either like to work specifically, you know, I'm, I feel as though I'm, I'm different outside of work.
00:38:23
Jeff Rogers
Um, But at work, I've noticed that there's kind of two reactions to me entering the facility. It's either like, oh my God, hurt your eyes. Sam's here. Like as if I'm storming in with like flames behind me. That's me. You know? advertise Or it's like the the the people that are like, hey, hi, hi. I'm like, okay. Hey, what's up?
00:38:46
Jeff Rogers
like They're tiptoeing. They are But it's just, it's kind of funny to me because, you know, I'm, the devil wears Prada. How like when she walks in a room, everyone's like, scatter.
00:38:58
Jeff Rogers
Like, or in the proposal when they're like, the witch is flying and they're talking about Sandra Bullock. Like she's ah just a raving bitch. And so people have a very specific reaction to her. And I find it funny because i don't know. I know that I can be um very direct direct. I am. And that's the thing. And people just don't get it. Like, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just letting you know that you suck. But there will be. And what I've learned about you is when you come into work, just wait 30 minutes.
00:39:36
Jeff Rogers
I don't need to talk to you. We talk every day, all day long. I'm going to wait 30 minutes, maybe an hour, and then you will come. But have you noticed that that's changed recently?
00:39:47
Jeff Rogers
Well, that's what I was talking about earlier. The thing that you're working on about like letting yeah stuff go. and But for the most part, my rule with you is wait 30 minutes.
00:39:59
Jeff Rogers
In 30 minutes, she's going to come up to me and talk when she wants to talk. That's it. That's all I do. got to give me the time to process being there and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, it it takes a minute. It does. It does. um But that's good. That's good.
00:40:14
Jeff Rogers
At least we know our shit, right? We know who we are. i mean, it takes you a long time to get to that space, and I couldn't be happier that that's where I'm at, you know? like at Me either. And I
Year-End Reflections and Future Plans
00:40:25
Jeff Rogers
couldn't be happier that I'm going into this next year.
00:40:28
Jeff Rogers
like for me, it's such – we're going have a good year. We're have a great fun year. We're going to have a good year, and we're going into it in a positive way with an understanding of who we are.
00:40:39
Jeff Rogers
and what we're about and what we're going to do. And we've got this fun show. this is so much fun to do. People's responses to us are, they make me laugh so much.
00:40:51
Jeff Rogers
You know, we got a lot going yeah and it's fun stuff. And that's one of the things I was talking to my therapist about is she said, do I have days where I stay in the bed? And I'm like, no, i don't ever have days when I stay in the bed because if we're not working,
00:41:07
Jeff Rogers
we're edit doing a story for the show or we're we're constantly doing shit so i mean even if i'm staying in bed i still have my laptop out and i'm he listening to podcasts doing like writing story you know like going to dinner with people yes we're doing things but only when we want to because we don't do stuff we technically don't do stuff and we don't don't nobody get any ideas we're not going start going out with you Like tonight, Peaky Blinders.
00:41:35
Jeff Rogers
There you go. For the win for me. I'm going to watch Bad Moms Christmas because, oh my God, wait, did I tell you about the day that Ashley and I went Christmas shopping? Yeah.
00:41:46
Jeff Rogers
Okay, so I hate i woke up. i was like, okay, we're going to do this because I had worked
00:41:55
Jeff Rogers
the The night before, right? And so 3 a.m. I get home. I'm like, okay, I'm going to sleep. And then I guess we're going wake up nice and early and like do stuff. We're going to go out of the house. We're going go to a shopping facility to buy things, and which is really good. I mean, she was she has been – Ashley has been on fucking fire with this whole Christmas thing. She's doing it.
00:42:22
Jeff Rogers
But I talked to her and I was like trying to debate if I was going to take my meds or not because I don't like to take my meds on my days off because i don't. I mean, yes, they're very good for me. But sometimes like I just I want to be like myself. Right. So.
00:42:40
Jeff Rogers
i I don't know if you've seen either of these two movies, but Inside Out. there's a scene where the happiness character, seen this now she's dragging sadness along behind her and sadness is just laying like face down on the floor, hand out, touching stuff and it's all turning blue and sad. yeah And then bad mom's Christmas where they're like, you know what? We're taking Christmas back. Like we're to it the way we want to. We're not going to live up to like these crazy pressures and we're just going so these three, no, these, I think it's four, no, maybe three or four. women who have kids who have to do Christmas right and all that shit, they go to the mall and they're just like, okay, we're going get drunk. And they just have an absolute blast. So I go, Ash, this is either going to go to like one of two ways. You're going to up dragging me along the floor like sadness or we're going a bad mom's Christmas it. And by God, did we not have a great time? Super successful. We survived.
00:43:39
Jeff Rogers
It was great. It was a good time. And it was very, like, did it. You enjoyed the bookstore. Oh, my God. I was in the bookstore for, like, three hours. So good. And I'm going back tomorrow.
00:43:50
Jeff Rogers
Don't expect to hear from me. Go. Never do. ah Just someone's going to find me, like, after the store has closed. I'm just going to be in a nook, like. If I haven't heard from you in, don't know whatever standard amount of time that I have allotted for you to then start be worry worrying, I'll Look at your location. I'll be like, okay, she's home. We're good. That's good. she's Oh, she's home. She's watching her shows, reading her books. yeah Yeah.
00:44:21
Jeff Rogers
That's good. Oh, you know what? I want to shout out to Vince and Kathy. Oh, yes. Yes. Vince and Kathy. We had dinner with them last night. That was fun. The burger was great. You know, I'm a burger person as we are yeah as we have established. Do you like a burger? Burger. I like a burger. And they was showing they were showing us pictures from the South or Antarctica.
00:44:45
Jeff Rogers
And those were beautiful pictures. I mean, the iPhone really has just changed the game. The blues are blue. and I'm sorry. The blues are blue.
00:44:56
Jeff Rogers
We're talking about the glaciers. Wavelengths. Oh, that was. They matter. Wavelengths matter. They're crazy. Wavelengths, they're crazy. Honestly, that picture that was saying. That was quote last night. ahead. Okay, there was a picture of Vince. He's in a submarine, and he's down at a certain... Only 30 feet. 30 feet. Is that really? So he was down 30 feet in the submarine, and he took a selfie of himself wearing a bright red jacket. Like a bright red Explorer jacket. He did not tell us that he was wearing a red jacket. We just saw what looked like a dark gray jacket. Gray jacket with like some blue hues or something. And apparently the wavelengths do not allow red through that level down. The filters out that color. That you to see red.
00:45:50
Jeff Rogers
And by God, first of all, the man in the submarine with him looked dead. Might have been. Dead. Not really sure. Dead. Dead, dead. Like cold and dead. It just so happened that the picture was shot like right when his eyes were closed. And he did look kind of like had been dead a time. Like had just found his body and was like bringing it back to the surface. mortis. Rigor mortis.
00:46:10
Jeff Rogers
Yeah. Yeah. But they Antarctica was beautiful. It's the only continent I've got left. that's We'll do it. Only one. We'll do it. We're hitting Australia in 2027 for me. just looks like penguins, though.
00:46:24
Jeff Rogers
Yeah. And apparently them just like rolling around in their shit. But, I mean, we can do it in such a way where we just, like, you step on and step off. But they also have the little nostril that shoots out the salt. They do. From the salt water. do. They have, like, a third nostril. They do. And it's all of the birds. The penguins. Not Vince. Not Vince.
00:46:45
Jeff Rogers
Vince may have a third nostril. I don't know. But the penguins definitely do. They do. The penguins and the other birds because they drank the water and and that's the only water that they have, right? And so they have to have a way of filtering out the salt. That's crazy. That's awesome. And it's in their it's in their head. So they have this sinus that Kathy was like, it's ah it's a kidney basically that just takes in the water, filters out the salt and it just like oozes out.
00:47:10
Jeff Rogers
Just a continuous banana runny drainage. Bananas. Snotty, salty mess. Yeah. Do we do one more question and then end it? One more question. Let's do it.
00:47:21
Jeff Rogers
Hold up. Did you want to tell me more? Tell me more. You're going to do it. Just do it. Just do it. Like, does he have a car? Ew. Why did you get so deep? Like, does she have a car? There you go. Okay.
00:47:35
Jeff Rogers
Okay, I'll do one more question and then we will end this thing. We're just giving you guys an extra like, because we have time. We do. An extra Monday episode that I want to start doing more of in the new year. Maybe that's a goal.
00:47:47
Jeff Rogers
Maybe that's a goal. We won't make it a resolution. Nope. Because then we will just not ever do one yeah ever again.
00:47:59
Jeff Rogers
you
00:48:03
Jeff Rogers
if you could reconnect with one person from your past who would it be oh shit um don't even know why i was thinking about this person earlier but uh way way back in the day like elementary school um They're like one of my best friends in elementary school, Victoria Drecchio.
00:48:32
Jeff Rogers
Have no idea where she is what she's doing in life, but and as i thought thought thought about her the other day and
00:48:41
Jeff Rogers
Yeah, just don't know. Oh, that's so funny because my answer would be, since you mentioned her, my answer would be Nikisha, a friend of mine from like fourth and fifth grade. Yeah. I lived in the same neighborhood in Scottsboro, Alabama. We became best friends. Yeah. We, you know, did the Facebook thing for a long time once... Once everybody started finding everybody on Facebook back in 2008 or whatever, we did that. Before Facebook was uncool, apparently. But I haven't seen her since a very long time ago. But yeah, I wouldn't mind reconnecting with her. Yeah.
00:49:16
Jeff Rogers
But like not in the weird, obnoxious way. No. some people do right? Where they just want to insert themselves in your life. No. Not about that. No. Okay, that was 50 minutes. There we go. 50 minutes of talk. Just a conversation. Just a conversation.
00:49:32
Jeff Rogers
All right. um We'll see you guys in the new year. will. Because this is the very almost last day of 2025. It's over.
00:49:44
Jeff Rogers
for what it's worth, 2025 is over. it is. Some think it can only go up from here. Here's to the good times. Poo to the bad times. Let's move on. Amen. And just remember, we are only here for a good time.
00:49:58
Jeff Rogers
Not a long time. Goodbye.