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100 - Our Trip to Egypt
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This week Jeff and Sam share some stories from their trip to Egypt. From the pyramids to Karnak Temple. Enjoy
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Introduction of the Show
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Hi, Sam. Hi, Jeff.
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Welcome to the Jeff and Sam show. I'm Jeff. And I'm Sam. And ah you know where to find us. We're not going to do that anymore. This is a true crime history, sometimes comedy, by accident, accidental comedy.
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Just because we're so funny. Just because we're so we think we're funny. That's all that matters. Well, sometimes even when we don't think we're funny, people tell us we're funny. Yeah. We can't remember it. And don't even dare tell us something we said because we can't remember it. Nope. Definitely not. Don't ask questions. It goes into the of fuckery and it stays there. people pull it out randomly and they're like, hey, you said this. And I'm like, no, I didn't. I would never. I would
Announcement: Mental Health Break and Egypt Trip
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never. So today we're going to just take a mental health break.
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We're just... For our own mental health, we're not doing any stories that we've prepared. We're just going to talk. And we're going to talk about what?
Memorable Trip to Egypt Begins
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Egypt, finally. We did this insane trip in January. We did. And it's months later now. and We're finally talking about it. We met first and foremost, for me, the coolest thing was the people that we were with the whole time.
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i mean... You're Jill, Allison, Anne, Karen, Robert, Stephanie, and Graham, and Mimit, and his wife.
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Lovely. I can't remember her name. I've just blinked on the name. but i did too. My God. It was... i mean, we didn't choose to spend two weeks knowing that it was going to be them, but it they were just phenomenal. And... I mean, we were talking to Ahmed about it, like...
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Oh, our guy was Ahmed. Yeah, that that makes or breaks it, right? Yeah. Because as we've discussed, I am not a people person. I have a very, very, very small, very narrow social battery. Yeah. So being...
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um I don't want to say forced because that sounds negative, obviously, but realistically, yes, you are being forced into like continuous social engaging because you're out and you're about, you're doing activities and tours and then you're in the same ah van with them and then you're in the same meals with them and like the only downtime you have. So that very easily could have gone horrifically for someone like me.
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But there was never a time where I was like, ugh, I hate so-and-so or ugh, I can't stand him. No, there was never a time where they're all such good people. And they brought so much of their own history and their own stories. Right. So cool to just be able to interact with them and hear And then some of them continued on. Like after we did Egypt, some of them went to Jordan. Yeah. Jill went down to Africa, further down to Africa to like Kenya. She did the whole thing, yeah. She did that like, I think, wasn't she doing a whole like three more months of... She was doing something crazy, like months and months more. Yeah.
Exploration of the Grand Egyptian Museum
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ah Yeah, so we went with a company called Intrepid, and they do adventure travel. That's how I describe it. It's not like relaxation. that There's nothing relaxing about it at all.
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So you land, and we chose to land two days early, just to like... Which was a very important decision. Very good decision, too, because we got over the jet lag, right? That was ah a beast to go from here to Cairo, but we took a straight flight from to Cairo.
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Got over the jet lag a little bit, and the one thing I'm glad that we did is that we went to the Grand Museum in Cairo. before the trip started because i was not like looking at the itinerary very well like you you had the shit like oh my god we get to see this we get to see that but like but i totally skipped over that in like kairo because i was so focused on the other like temples that we were going to later in the trip that like in kairo the only thing i thought we were doing was really the pyramids right so i i completely miss that
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that they So we did the Grand Egyptian and the Grand Egyptian Museum is as grand as grand can be. What did you think about that? I could have spent four full days there. And I know like I'm not typically a museum person, but I could have spent, I love Egyptian history, so I could have spent four full days yeah just looking at everything, reading every single placard.
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There just was not enough time in a single day to do that. Yeah. It was massive, and there's so much history. You don't even understand how massive it is. I don't even understand how massive it is when I was in the damn thing. There's a whole ass boat.
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There's a boat? There's a whole boat. God, and then we had to like look for King Tut's exhibition. And that was amazing. He had a hundred pairs. A hundred pairs of sandals. Let me tell you guys our conversation. We finally found the King Tut exhibit, right?
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And we're walking through and there's this very elaborate thing that he had over him to protect himself from the sun. And then there was all these shoes and then there was these gloves. And i say to Sam, look luck on the down low, I'm like, I think he was a little gay. All of his headdresses and his his shoes, his jewelry. little gay. little gay.
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little bit. Might be just my opinion, but I got a vibe. I feel like there's there's an inside track that you have there. got a vibe. Yeah. That was definitely a grand fucking museum, though. It was grand. God, it was amazing. And I don't like yeah museums.
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I don't care if I ever go to another one in my life. I didn't didn't really want to go to that one. The only thing was I knew that it was a once- ina-lifetime once in a lifetime thing. We were there. We're going to go. we did it.
Experience Inside the Great Pyramid
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And then still a highlight for me is going into the fucking Great Pyramid. We went into the the great pyramid. Sometimes you can go in and sometimes you cannot. We were the lucky group that could go in. Well, and sometimes he was saying like the lines are hours long and we got there. Again, our our guide was so on top of everything that... he planned this thing down to a T. So like if the itinerary said, oh, we're going to this at like 2 p.m., he'd be like, no, it's actually better if we go to it at 8 a.m. So sure as shit, we'd be on the bus, we'd be traveling to wherever and we go and we skipped the lines, we skipped the really massive, horrible crowds. We would be leaving whatever when when when the big ah the tour buses were coming in Yeah, we were walking out and we had already seen like the majesty and we got to do it in a...
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Less crowded time. That was amazing. um go into the i don't How did you feel about walking into the pyramid? ah So, you know, look of I've seen a lot of things because I've traveled a lot, right? Like you go to India and you see the Taj Mahal. And for me, it's always like, yeah, it looks just like it.
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yeah it You know, i don't i can google a picture i don't care about shit like that. I love the people that I meet. yeah I'm definitely more of a people person, but there's something about the Great Pyramid because the mystery of it all that was incredible. Was it built by aliens?
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No, it was not. We read writing from the people who helped build it. And they were just normal people. They were normal people, yeah. Yeah. And it used to be white.
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The pyramids used to be white. Yeah. there were nine. I did not know there were nine. Yeah, so, well, there's the three greats, and then there's the family members. um So you have the the sets of three. They love their tributes. They really do. God almighty. ah So cool.
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And I mean, it's, I don't know. i mean, you hear, I think one of the things that telling people about the pyramid is specifically like the pyramids are these masterful things that were created. 4,500 years ago. in In absurd ways. You know, like you don't even think about like the complexity of that. But then when I tell people, I'm like,
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Yeah, but the inside, like, we walk in and they tell us it's a little claustrophobic and the first, like, the entry entry is like, i'm um I'm like, okay, I can reach my arms out and touch the stone. Like, it's fine. This is fine. And then you, like, kind of keep weaving in and then you're like, oh fuck. And, like, next thing you know, you're, like, crawling on your hands and knees up a freaking wooden gangway. Oh, my God. Yeah.
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you recorded me You recorded me going down. And to go down, like it's best if when you're leaving the pyramid, it's best if you're walking backwards to go down the stairs. yeah there Stairs is a gentle term there because it's it's it is a plank. yeah It's a wooden angled plank. And you're just it's like there's two by fours nailed onto this plank. And that's what you're walking across down.
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down and you recorded me and I've watched this video so many times because you can see i'm I'm saying I'm walking in a pyramid I'm walking in a pyramid and then like claustrophobia sets in and you can visibly see me on the third time say it's really hot in this pyramid it was so hot I can't imagine July I'm glad we went in January. No, yeah, no. I think I would have had to pass. I would have passed out. You would have had to carry me. But, yeah, I mean, and then you so you walk up, and then you get into the the tomb chamber.
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Incredible. And it's hot, and it's small, and you're like, oh, wait a second. This is what's inside that? There was an influencer that I saw recently, and she came out of the pyramid, and she was bitching about it.
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Oh, it's so hot. Oh, it's so, it's not worth it. It's just, fuck off, man. you You're, this is, don't do this every It's the seven wonder of the world. The only remaining ancient wonder of the world. We were in that. We did, we did that. We did We were in the only remaining ancient wonder of the world.
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Just saying. Just saying. Brush it off. But we were there,
Visit to Alexandria and Discovery of Catacombs
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ah what, two days after, two days before two days before Will Smith? Two days after. Two days after. Yeah, two days after Will Smith because he was there that weekend. We went on a Monday. Oh, we did going on a Monday, yeah. Which, by the way, trying to picture like tall-ass Will Smith, I can't. i can't I had enough trouble because my damn head was hit in the ceiling. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, thank you.
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The other thing that really I thought was interesting, and again, i did not look at the itinerary. I didn't understand that we were going to do this. is Suddenly, where with a police escort and an armed security guard, we went to Alexandria.
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And there's a picture. I was looking through the pictures. There's a picture of you. no. And it is... welcome It says so much because in Alexandria, we're in this van and it is so crowded. There's so many people around the van.
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There's a picture of you with your hand on your face looking out the window. the anxiety comes through the photo. Well, so, I mean, there's a lot of open markets, right? Everywhere that we went. And so Alexandria, there was this, this just...
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massive and I guess that's just daily life, but it was this market that stretched for blocks and blocks and blocks, and it was everything from, like, suitcases and clothing to like fresh produce right and the streets aren't all that wide to begin with on these backside roads and then you have hundreds of thousands of people also in the street that you're we're in the van and I know that we're inside and like the windows are closed and that kind of thing but
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If I had opened the window, I would have been like, beep, beep, beep. Hello, sir. Like, they were that damn close. Can touch your face? they're And it's just like to like, to them, it's so normal that they they don't hesitate. They don't pause. they They just keep moving. And they're like, they're not going to hit me. I'm like, the confidence is fucking amazing.
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It was overwhelming. I had the best hotel room in Alexandria. if was it It was like a room with a view of the Mediterranean, but but that was the living room part. And when I walked into the room, I thought, I don't have a bed. Where the fuck is my bed? It's in another room.
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Yeah. And that room, when the door closed, there was not an ounce of daylight. I thought I could live in this room for two days yeah and not come out. But then the thing I was talking about, though, that I didn't expect was the catacombs.
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Or were the catacombs of Alexander. 2,000-year-old catacombs. Look, in 1900, donkey... Was trotting down the road and the donkey fell into a hole. didn't survive, guys? He didn't survive. didn't? But they were like, where'd that donkey go?
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And the donkey fell right into the catacombs. And that's how they just discovered the catacombs. This world of... And I mean, you walk in it and it's like a beehive, right? Because there's countless holes in the wall and like they have excavated the whole site, right? So when you look into each of these holes, these beehive areas, there's little body spots.
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Like you could, there's there were bodies there. That was amazing to me. yeah It was incredible to be in that. And then they they now use that as like a ground where they bring a lot of like the Roman um like artifacts that they have gathered. They have a lot of them set up there, too. I think that's super cool.
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um what like I don't even know where to start
Relocation of the Temple of Abu Simbel
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with this trip. There were so many things that we saw. yeah ah After that, we went down really close to Sudan.
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We went to a temple called Abu Simbel. And that that, okay, the temple was amazing, right? And the fact that they built this lake, Lake Nassar, something like that, I don't remember the name of the lake.
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But the fact that they built this lake with this dam in Aswan, and then they had to move the temple. So they had to dam the Nile in two places.
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Doing so displaced an entire tribe of people, Nubian people, yep. 40 tribes, I think they said, had to be displaced, which was thousands of people. um and But also in doing so, they created, obviously, a change in water flow. So these temples that have existed for almost 4,000 years um that were on the side of the river as the dams changed the the way the water moved, they had to... It was Abu Simbel, and then they also had to do ah the Isis um and Hoth temples um in Philae.
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They... care so much about their history and preserving this this these wonders that they paid to to make sure that every single stone was documented, marked in a way that wasn't going to obviously alter it forever. um And then they picked it all up and they put it somewhere else in a safe place that was not... And then they built up... um
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new, like, not waterproofing, but like, they made um barriers so that it's never going to be destroyed again. And like, it's just amazing that they were able to do this. That was, that stuck up stood out more to me than the temple. Yeah.
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Because the whole time when I learned that, that they moved this temple from over there to where the water, from, the water's there now, but the temple used to be there. What? Well, because, especially because of the the size, I mean, that Abu Simbel is, Ramesses II, fucking megalomaniac. We learned that that man, that man just fucking loved himself. I mean, he, first of all, he built all the temples to himself and then temples that existed, he was like, I'm just, gonna paint myself right in here what was funny is that the beginning moment was like he is a megalomaniac that was a guy in a group from turkey and he was like he's a megalomaniac and you and i have were like by the end of it we were like not another fucking ramsay's the second again look there he is painted himself in that god picture like You weren't there. But he did. He just inserted himself like these these paintings in other temples that had existed before him of gods and offerings and that kind of thing. He just fucking, he was like, let me just scooch. Let me get scooch. It's raining there. You know who belongs there? I think i belong there. I think I belong there. You know what? I basically was there. I'm Genesis II. I'm going to make myself be right there. And then he's like, I'm going to make this little small temple for the woman that I love. and you're like,
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Yeah, he was crazy. Then I'm saving. So Dan and Kristen love the story about the Uber driver. And Kim does too.
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And so I'm saving that for the very end. Okay. Changed my life a little bit. I think it shaved like. Took years your life. We'll get there. Okay. But next thing that I really enjoyed was the cruise down the Nile.
Nile Riverboat Cruise Experience
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Or up the Nile. Which way was it, Sam? It flows backwards. It flows backwards. So we were cruising... and South to north. South to north. Up the Nile.
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But down the Nile at the same time. down the Nile. who We went down the Nile, up the continent. On a little... River boat. That was amazing. That was cool.
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So cool. And I mean, i don't know what I was expecting about the boat, right? I was thinking like river boat, right? And I've seen the mummy more times than I count on Coat the damn movie. So maybe I was picturing like that boat that they were on. This was a full fucking hotel. Like you couldn't tell that you were on a boat except for the fact that the ceilings were ah really low. Oh my God. I made Graham laugh so hard. I was like, yeah, it's, it's like a hotel for small people. Oh oh my God. They're so great. Yeah. That was ah so crazy because when we docked the boat to get off the boat, we would have to walk through 10 other boats to get to the dock.
00:19:31
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But they had it down to such a perfect science, you know? Insane. Insane. But every boat was like... It was like you went from the bellagio ah from um Bellagio Hotel into the Paris Hotel, into Caesars Palace Hotel, into the Luxor. Yeah. Like, it it was it was it was like a...
00:19:54
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As if we were like moving through the decades almost. like we oh oh look like this. And it's like a totally different interior. And like it was such a wild experience. And we had the nicest young man who was there for us at dinner every single night on the boat. And I cannot remember his name to save my life. And I worked really hard. It was Sam. It was Hassam. Hassam. Hassam. Good job. Yeah. He was...
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Just so lovely. Oh my God. He predicted everything we needed. He did. He was great. He came up to me. He was like, I have your wine. I was like, i didn't even know I needed this. I'll take it. She loves you. i did. She loves you. he was wonderful. He was, he was, he was wonderful. The people that we met.
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i will tell you, I thought we were going to be going down the Nile on a Feluca. I was like, I'm not trying to sleep on this thing. But thank God it was a riverboat.
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And those rooms were nice. Yeah. I mean, oh God, and it was so cool. was so surreal to open your curtains yeah and, like, watch the sunrise on the Nile. Come on. That was stupid. Unbelievable. That was stupid. And to watch the sun set. That was a moment.
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Remember that moment the sun set and we were there watching the sun set on the Nile? Yeah. What in the hell? It was incredible. Remember we went through the lock and it was like this whole shebang, right? I mean, we sat for hours ah waiting to go into this the lock to get to the other side of the dam. And I was, I don't know, I was expecting maybe fanfare or something. Confetti, glitter coming from the sky.
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But next thing you know, I'm like, oh. That was it. Oh, we're in. We're in the lock. Oh, now we're out. Oh. Okay. Yeah, that was it. Now we're on the other side. But then, so the three days on the Nile, and then we docked in, well, we docked in Aswan. And then to Luxor. Aswan wasn't my favorite place. Was it?
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ah Yeah. It was like ah to too many people trying to sell you stuff for $1. Just $1? $1. Everything's a dollar.
00:22:04
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But that's 64 pounds, which is 74 marks, which is 38 rubles, which turns into Egyptian pounds, which ends up being 20 bucks for a cup coffee. But then they charge you in European pounds, which is different than an Egyptian pound. You didn't even know what was happening to you. Yeah. Until it got to be a $20 coffee. And you're like, wait a second, wait a second. I just paid 20 bucks for that coffee. Yeah.
00:22:27
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So many double shots of espresso. You had many double espressos. I probably should have kept count. Like, just to tally. Between you and Joe, you i think I think you just so bought out the entire the entire country of Egypt.
00:22:40
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ah The moment that broke me on the trip, you know exactly what I'm talking about. But wait, let me before we go to that, go um Luxor, I will say that when we docked in Luxor, that was kind of like this breath of fresh air. absolutely. It was stunning. It was clean. It was gorgeous. And it was like updated. And they had everything was like lamp. It was just Luxor was phenomenal.
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And to be driving down the street or riding in the van down the street and you're in the middle of Luxor and then suddenly they have this temple that's 4,000 years old Right there.
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that They built Luxor around. Yeah. That's part of the insane thing about it, right? yeah so
Impressions of Karnak Temple
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Yeah. you have you have the the Temple of Luxor and then you have Karnak and it's a straight shot across the city, right? And then you have the the Sphinx that lined that whole path between the two temples. What?
00:23:41
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ah Magnificent. I mean, you you walk through DC and you're like, oh, yes, look at that lovely, like, Our version of a Roman column. That's lovely. 200 years old.
00:23:55
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Yay. That's where we saw the Karnak Temple. So yeah, Karnak and Luxor. um are that It's like 2.7 miles straight shot across Jen. Biggest one for last.
00:24:07
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This is when we said... i do love columns. I looked at you. we were about to go to Karnak Temple. And I looked at you and I was like... We got one more temple. I was on temple overload.
00:24:19
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There's so much history. Yeah. Two weeks was not even enough time to scratch the surface and even understand no Egyptian anything. It just kind of shows you what it is, for me anyway, and I have no understanding of Egyptian history like you do. There's so much to it, and it's like...
00:24:37
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I don't know. Yeah, i could i could have spent i couldve spent days in each of those places. Just, again, looking at each of the hierarchies. The pictures, like they tell these people's lives in in pictures that are right there in front of you still. 3,500 years later, like it's...
00:24:56
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um It's unbelievable. And mind you, we've got we've we're good. Mind you, um this is day nine and ten of this trip. So by this time, exhaustion is peak, right? We are fucking tired.
00:25:11
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And we're in Karnak Temple and Ahmed decides he needs to translate the hieroglyphs on the wall. Yeah. And I was like, okay, i you know the times we talk about we can hear our brain go clunk, clunk, clunk.
00:25:26
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My brain was going clunk, clunk, clunk. I was like, I don't even understand what he's doing. so I'm going to record this for later when I can process what the fuck he's doing. Because he's translating hieroglyphics.
00:25:38
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He is an Egyptologist, our guide with Intrepid. Which is when it's my favorite travel company. I'll never probably never go with another one because Intrepid is just so fucking phenomenal.
00:25:49
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But like when Ahmed tells us his degree and university was Egyptology and that he's an Egyptologist, we knew we had like one of the best, right? And he really, really was in every way.
00:26:02
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Hit every mark. But then the thing that I was also so excited about, I knew we were going to have to wake up at 3 a.m. This is such a funny moment to me. Also terrifying.
00:26:14
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But like, wake up at 3.30 a.m. We're getting off the boat. We're going to go to the Valley of the Kings. We're going to do the hot air balloon sun sunrise. I'm good.
00:26:25
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i went to bed at 8.30. I never had a problem falling asleep. i could fall asleep at 5 p.m. in Egypt. But... I don't wake up early easily, but woke up at 3.30. We go to wait on the balloons. We get in the balloon, which is such a fun feeling. It's like you're floating. If you take out, you can look down at the tree that you're passing over and you have this sensation that you are literally floating over the trees, right?
00:26:52
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I was just like, all of my senses were heightened. It was incredible. And then we were up there. We saw the Valley of the Kings. And we saw the sun. we saw Hot Chicken Soup Temple. Hot Chicken Soup Temple. Yeah.
00:27:06
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And we came down. came down. We down hard. And then there was a point when Sam looked at me. And I'm pretty self-aware, especially when I think people are looking at me crazy.
00:27:20
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Sam looked at me, and i to describe it, it was a look like, ooh. Jeff. And when you looked at me like that, I was like, oh fuck. What do I look like?
00:27:31
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I could not function. It's like all the adrenaline had left. We did the hot air balloon, come down. We still had a whole day ahead of us. We had a whole day ahead I was sure I could do it. Yeah. I was not sure. But you looked at me like, ooh. Yeah, because we went right from there because not the entire group. It was only a few of us. We chose to do that. we did that, and then we met the whole rest group.
00:27:55
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To go to Chip Soup Temple, which, let me just tell you, that was one of my favorites. Yeah, that was amazing. Because she is just, she's such a fucking badass. She pretended to be a man. To be able to continue ruling her kingdom. And she fucking, she did the damn thing. For 20 years, she fucking ruled.
00:28:15
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What's the actual pronunciation of Hot Chip Soup. We could not remember this, so Ahmed told us just pronounce it Hot Chicken Soup. Either hot chicken soup or hot cheap, cheap soup. Hot cheap soup, yep. Yeah. um So yeah, I turned as we're in the van going to the temple and I looked at Jeff and he,
00:28:35
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his eyes were open. bri But you could tell that his insides were like, oh, no. That was a hard crash. It was it was like horror. And we i mean we had taken those like ah caffeine tablets. yeah um So we were trying to like juice ourselves up. But...
00:28:55
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It was, nothing was working on me. Yeah, no. And the look that you gave me, and said, yeah, you're fucked. Yeah. but No, it did not say that. It said, are you going to be okay? That was the look that I took in from you. And was I don't know. I don't know if I can continue.
00:29:11
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ah scariest moment... Of the whole two weeks. By far. The only scary moment.
Chaotic Cairo Uber Ride
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In Cairo.
00:29:20
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Yeah, it was the only scary moment. We took an Uber from the Citadel to our hotel. And to catch an Uber in Cairo is an experience no matter what. Yeah. You'll try to scam you. $30 will take you here or whatever.
00:29:38
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This man did not try to scam us. No, he didn't. No. he was very straightforward. yeah He tried to kill us maybe a little bit unsuccessfully. So we get in the Uber with him. And this is in Cairo, in the city, like the city city of Cairo. Like we weren't on the outskirts. We were in the fucking city.
00:29:57
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Get in this Uber. He starts blasting the fucking music. Windows down. Drawing so much attention to our car.
00:30:08
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And then he turned the wrong way. and at first, it was kind of okay. At first, I was kind of going along with it like I was i'm pumping my fist and dancing kind of. encouraging it. And I thought, well, this is not bad.
00:30:23
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And then it just progressed to horrible. Yeah. Now everybody's staring. where The streets are getting smaller and smaller. His car is getting louder and louder. And then he turned the wrong way into three cars that were coming toward us.
00:30:38
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And Sam, ah swear to God. i so i didn't i was like, what the fuck is happening? This is too much for any human. Then he turned on another street that had burning tires on one side of it.
00:30:56
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And goddamn goats on the other side of it A pile of goats. A pile of goats and burning tires. Yeah. And we got close to the hotel with this man. We got so close to the hotel. were like, we're good.
00:31:07
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We can walk the rest of the way. He was like, is this you guys? We were like, yeah dead yep, yep, yep. This is us. We're going to just walk. 17 miles. Please. Don't care how far the distance is. Let's go. Let's That was another moment, though, where we got into the hotel and we couldn't talk properly. we were like, I'm going to go to the room.
00:31:28
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ah Life. Life or death. That was like a, that was really genuinely a scary situation. It was something. It was something. Because
00:31:39
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because it was in Uber. me The Uber of death. It was unbelievable. Did I do it justice describing it? I think, I mean, i don't think there's any way, like, no I felt all of it again, hearing you talk about it, but like there's no way, because like, in Egypt, in Cairo,
00:32:02
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the Cairo itself, like, not all that impressive. I mean, driving in from the airport, I was kind of like, oh, oh no. This looks like it's post-apocalyptic. Like, there's buildings crumbling. There's buildings that have crumbled. they Can we get a water There's literal, trot like, trash piles. Like, it's just, it's madden it's madness. And then there's so many people, ah so many cars of all different shapes and sizes. They move so fast. And, like, there's, it's just, like,
00:32:31
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there's lanes in the United States. And like, you know, if someone tries to come into your lane, like even a little bit, they put their blinker on and you're like, yeah hey, don't come into my lane. Like someone honks out of, just out of caution, right? In Cairo and in Alexandria, it was like, sure, there were lines drawn on the road, but they weren't even a suggestion. they were like a nuisance. So it's like this four lane highway, but there's eight cars side by side.
00:33:00
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going all in one direction and then like they're bobbing and weaving together and they're coming within a hair's breadth of each other and you're the whole time I'm like my butt's puckered I'm not breathing I'm like gripping the sides anytime we got in a vehicle And to have this guy who was just living his best life, just ripping cigarettes and and screaming music lyrics and dancing. No hands on the wheel. No hands <unk> into oncoming traffic. Yeah. um
00:33:31
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It was an experience for sure. The whole thing was an experience that I thought was a once-in-a-lifetime thing. I don't need to go back to Egypt. We have seen from top to bottom, Upper Egypt, Lower Egypt,
00:33:45
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We have seen it.
Reflection on Egyptian Monuments
00:33:46
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what What was like a takeaway for you from Egypt? I mean, a lot. I mean, just yeah like the joy that I feel thinking about the fact that like the paint was so vivid still inside the tombs, like Ramesses III, his tomb. We were in King Tut's tomb with King Tutankhamun. We saw King Tut before they moved his body to the Grand Egyptian Museum.
00:34:11
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He was still in his tomb for one more day. And we got there and we got to see him and his crispy, crunchy little toes. Mm-hmm. and his little mummified body right there, right in front of us. he was there was there Between us and him was a ah thin piece of glass. That was it.
00:34:27
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Unbelievable. yeah My takeaway still is from our last dinner when we were going around and we were saying what we thought of Egypt and what we learned. And it's so easy when you're in Egypt to feel like you are such a small blip in the history of time and the cosmos. And it's that's kind of how you feel, right? But then Jill, I'll never forget Jill saying, yeah, but...
00:34:56
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A person built those pyramids. You know, people built those pyramids so what you do matters. Even if you feel like you're a blip of time. Insignificant. things and What you do matters. Yeah, that was powerful what she said. So even though I felt teeny, teeny, tiny, the people that built the pyramids probably did too. You know?
00:35:18
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So cool. What an experience. Yeah.
Conclusion and Future Chat Episodes
00:35:21
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Okay, so we may do this from time to time instead of regular show just to take a break and just to have a chat. This was good. A wee chat. A wee little chat. don't know why you keep saying wee. You're British all sudden. like word of the I don't get it. You're British.
00:35:34
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Okay. All right. I think that was it. That's it. That was good. Thanks for listening, y'all. Yeah, thank you. And we're here for a good time. Not a long time.
00:35:45
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But we're here. are. All right. Bye.