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The Houses of HHN 34
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We did it! The entire TCS crew visited Halloween Horror Nights 34 in Orlando together and is here with Part I of our review: the haunted houses! Do our rankings match up with our hype lists? (Spoiler alert - no!) What's the most overrated house and the biggest surprise? All this and more including your questions and a quick recap of follow up Epic Universe visits. Stay tuned next week for Part II discussing the scare zones, shows, food & bev, and overall event impressions.
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Episode Introduction
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We're going to play a little game we call Bill that's it.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Thrills, Chills and Spills, where we spill the tea on all things theme parks and special events and of course the spooky season. I'm Rafa. I'm Joey.
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I'm Kelly. I'm Tyler. And we have thoughts on HHN. We can officially talk about the event. We recently visited um this past weekend and we have a lot to share.
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um But of course, as always, we're going to start off with some spills. um What we got?
Theme Park Etiquette Pet Peeve
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I can go. um This is just like a general pet peeve of mine. Like when you are walking at a theme park, especially at a visit a busy event like HHN,
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the amount of people who are just completely unaware of people around them drives me crazy. Do not stop in the middle of a walkway where people are literally going flat tire you. It is crazy.
00:01:09
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is crazy. I don't get it. beside I just don't get the like lack of awareness. Like when people at the airport, like stand in the middle of the walkway waiting to like, just be courteous.
00:01:23
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What are you doing? Think about other people for one second. Like, yes, there some times I need to get on my phone and like look at wait times or a map or whatever. And if it's going to be while I'm walking, I just move to the side. Yeah.
00:01:36
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Yeah. Most people just like stop what they're doing. Like as if nobody is walking behind them. and Yeah. It drives me crazy. Yeah. And also like don't rope drop. Don't get in the rope drop crowd if you're here for a leisurely Sunday stroll.
00:01:49
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Okay. Like... Get out of the way of my way.
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If you're trying to rope drop, then you got to do it right. Or at least move to the damn side. Or, oh my God, don't get on a moving walkway and stand there blocking the whole freaking thing.
00:02:15
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It is a walkway. Yeah, it is true. It is standway. Walk. Stay to the side least if you're not going walk. Like, stay to one side. Yeah, get in the right lane. Yeah. Let people pass you to the left.
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Exactly. Damn. Damn.
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I didn't think I was that upset about this topic until we started talking about it. Now i'm getting fired up. Kelly needs to move to Europe. Remember the escalators there, how they all perfectly stand on the right and then the walkers go on the left. It's so great.
00:02:45
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Oh my gosh. That should be the norm. It should be the norm. it'll note and It'll never be the norm in America. It's <unk> horrible.
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Like i fully recognize that I'm a faster walker than the average person, but like there are just so many people that I almost ran right into just from stopping right in front of me.
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Stay out of Kelly's way. I best not do that at Disney World because they're going to get run over by a stroller. Let me tell you, you herere the back of your heels will be excruciating pain if you stop in front of a stroller. Yeah.
Art the Clown's Popularity Issues
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All right. um I'll go next. So my spill, we're not going to go too much into detail on scare zones this episode, but one thing, um the art, the clown that is roaming the streets, or I'm sure there's multiple art, the clowns.
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um I kind of think it's not, I don't think it's that great. um I noticed on my Saturday visit that Art wasn't able to do much because he always had like a mob of people, like almost like paparazzi like with their bright ass flashlight.
00:03:57
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like right in art's face, like following him him around everywhere that he went. And it kind of took away from the experience. Like you didn't really see him interact with anybody just standing and eating or, or somebody that was just shopping at one of the stores. Like he was constantly walking, just making faces just to kind of get away from these hordes of people that just do not get away from him That sucks because it's such a fun thing.
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And like it's such a viral thing. Like, I feel like it's great for social media, but when, when you see it in person, you're kind of like, whoa, there are too many people following this guy. And it's just taking away from it. Cause it's so cool. It's such a cool little experience. They're going to take him away.
00:04:35
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They are. it's He's not going to last. He's not going to make it October. I kind of thought they already took him away because I don't think I saw him once in the three nights. That's part why it's a flop though. Cause like you see the videos on socials and they're everywhere, but then yeah air you can barely see him cause he's either like not there. Cause there's not that many of them. I think there's four. Right.
00:04:54
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Or he's surrounded by a mob of people with their phones out. yeah Yeah. I didn't see him one time. Yeah. i noticed so many, like the the one time or there were two times that I saw, but the first time that I saw him on Saturday,
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like I guess he was just like roaming around the um like that main area with the majority of the food booths over by the mummy, like walking over to the mummy. So that area, he was just like circling around. And when he passed us the first time, because we were over by the Clown Cafe booth, he walked past us and there were ah huge there was a huge group of people following him around with flashlights and everything.
00:05:30
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following him around when he came back around just a few minutes later, it was the same group of people behind him. Like I get it. If you want to get a quick video, a quick picture, I get it. That's what he's there for.
00:05:41
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But why are we following him throughout this entire area? It makes no sense. Yeah. And it's really obnoxious. Yeah. And it pissed me off, but yeah, I mean, hopefully they could make it work somehow, but I just, I don't see that changing. A lot of people are going to continue following him around.
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getting all the content that they need for their Instagram stories and their tick tocks. Like ah just I just, don't know. I don't know how long it's going to last, but that's, that's my spill.
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I'm trying to think of if there would be a better way. And I, I don't know. I can't think of anything. There isn't like, they har with phones right. Like they would have to keep him. like in a specific area where guests were not able to come to him, you know?
00:06:26
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Yeah. Or like do it as a meet and greet, which like takes away from the whole like stick of him, just like being random and funny. Right. Right. I was going to say, or just give him a stage kind of like the cat lady has, but again, that's just taking away from the randomness of it.
00:06:43
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Yeah. Like that's the whole reason for it. Like with, without that, like, right. The fact that he can pop up anywhere is sort of the point. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
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It sucks because it sound it looked really... like It was a very fun idea in theory, but yeah i don't know I don't know if it's working out the way that they want it to. Yeah, I was so psyched when I saw some of the videos like from the weekend before. I was like, I have to see him. I have to see him on his traceable.
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And then it was just like, he was nowhere. Yeah, on our night, I think the only time I saw him was when we were walking over to... one of the houses in the back or you know, in the sound stages, like in that back area, that was the only time that I noticed him. And that was like from a distance. I didn't see what was going on, but yeah, besides that, it was like the other times where everybody was following him around, but I'm sure we'll get more into detail on that and just the overall streets next episode, since we are mostly talking about haunted houses is this episode, Joey, Tyler, you guys got anything for this week?
Express Pass Debate
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Florida's too hot and humid. It's gross. That's my spell. We did stay and scream in the terrifier queue. And thank God for the clouds because like there were about five minutes where we were in full sun and humidity and it was bad.
00:08:01
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And then Rafa and I will talk about this, but Rafa and I spent some time at Epic and it was hot and humid. yeah so gross. uh and it's september howward during terrifier yeah because that that was brutal yeah yeah so sucks to be florida i guess
00:08:21
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yeah and this is september also it's supposed to be start of fall yeah they don't have fall no we had a rough moment at epic we were waiting for untrainable dragon And they cram so many people right next to each other. There was no breeze directly in the sun.
00:08:41
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Oh my gosh, it was hot. That's the worst. you're Ridiculous. I was just dripping sweat for what, like 15 minutes until they finally opened the doors to the show. Yikes.
00:08:53
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There was another person not being courteous there with their freaking umbrella open, shading their family. Don't blame them for that. But their little pokey part of their umbrella kept getting stuck in my hair. Oh no, like at least hold it up. up Like what are we doing? right Come on. That was too tall for their family, I guess.
00:09:13
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So my spill is on Reddit, Facebook, whatever outlet. I've seen so many people say you cannot have fun at this event unless you get express.
00:09:24
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And that is completely untrue. I am so tired of reading that. We did, so I went three nights and we'll get more into detail, but any of those three nights, I feel like I could have done all 10 houses if I really tried to. We tapped out early a couple of nights.
00:09:42
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um Another night, we just it was sort of just an extra night. We didn't really even try, but with the proper planning, you can absolutely do all 10 houses.
00:09:53
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Yeah. for People to say that you can't even have fun if you don't do it. You're going to get through three, four houses because they're all two hour waits. That's absolutely not true. And we had time for snacks.
00:10:05
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Yeah. Yeah. And time I will say that if you don't have express, you kind of need to do stay and scream to get all of them. Yes. You don't need to scream.
00:10:16
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But that yeah, you're right there. are Like I am always on the Reddit and seeing what people are saying. And there are a lot of people that say that like somebody will ask a question about how do we plan to get through the houses? And instead of a legitimate answer, somebody just says, get express. You need it.
00:10:29
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It's like, no, you don't. Yeah, no, social media outlets, they're really blowing it up. Like everybody is just showing like the difference between express and regular.
00:10:41
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And yeah, it helps a lot. Like when I went on Saturday and I had express on that one night, it was convenient to not have to worry about, you know, hitting up everything at a specific time.
00:10:53
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But I mean, it's, you know, you you could still pull it off without it. You just got to be prepared for it. You're going to wait, you know, so. Just like any other thing. Like if you're going to go on your one Disney world vacation as a family and you don't go there often and at getting everything done is important to you You're not going to just go in there blind. You got to do some research for some of this stuff. Like it, I don't know. I feel like, but also I recognize that like, for me, it's kind of a game and it's fun to do my like planning and try to stay to a schedule that looks like it's going to work. So I get that's not for everybody, but like ask your friends or listen to people that like, like to go often and just,
00:11:31
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Some basic research and and even like if fun to you equates to doing all 10 houses, then like, yeah, you can get it done. And I've already talked to some people who are going with us later in the season that like want to try to accomplish all of that one day. And I think we can probably make that happen pretty easily unless it's like super busy.
00:11:48
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um But you don't have to do that to have fun. Like if I were not super into this event and I didn't really care, I wanted to go ride some rides to do a couple houses, just like be in the atmosphere. That would be, that could be fun for somebody too. Like, I don't know. the Don't go. Don't go if you don't think it's going to be fun. Get out of here Leave room for people like us.
00:12:09
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ah Right. Get out of here with that lanyard, that boo necklace. and the Yeah. And if you only have one night, then sure, get express. That's fine. Yeah.
00:12:20
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If you can factor in two nights, I think it's better and it's cheaper to just get two regular night tickets and instead of one night of express.
00:12:32
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Cause you can absolutely do five plus houses each night and nightmare fuel and get as much food as you want. There's plenty of time. And you can probably even do that without staying scream if you're doing to.
00:12:44
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I mean, it's ideal. It's ideal for your day to do stay and scream, but and we'll talk about that. But it's the people that are showing up at like 8 8 30, um,
00:12:54
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it's always there like oh it is a misery thing yeah And they're like, oh my God, i can't, I don't know how people do this. This is ridiculous. Well, you're showing up in peak time without a plan and you're just going straight to the busiest maze. That's right. We've had the first one in in the park that everybody went to. We can help you. We help you get through and have fun.
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we can help you we can help you get through
00:13:22
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Yes, it is possible. And you don't need to spend so much money on Express. I had the time of my life all four nights. It was a great time. And it was without Express. So it's it's very possible.
Tyler's Redemption at Epic
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But um moving on to before we get into HHN reviews and, you know, initial thoughts, um we all did get to visit Epic.
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over the weekend. Most importantly, Tyler got his redemption visit. So how was that, Tyler? How was it? What'd you think? That's right. I finally got my redemption. um We were a little worried walking in because we did not see Stardust testing whatsoever. And I was like, yep, this is my luck. This is fine. This is what it's come to.
00:14:08
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ah But it did open up later on. I got... I'm not going to go like ride by ride and say everything I did, but um I got through everything I wanted. Ministry was great. We rope dropped it, got on within, ah I don't know, 20, 25, 30 minutes maybe.
00:14:27
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um They actually, so it's not technically an early entry ride, but that day and I think maybe recently they've been opening it up. basically as an early entry ride. So we got on very quickly. Rafa and I did that as well. And it opened at like 910, which is really early. And we were like five minutes. We waited.
00:14:48
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We got on yeah like the third vehicle. It was yeah, it was very. So do that. If you don't have early entry, I would recommend that highly. His ministry first. Yeah, absolutely. We even did have early entry and we still did that.
00:15:01
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yeah Even without early entry, I feel like most people go to Donkey Kong and they want to wait there. That's going to be a long wait all day long anyway. like You might as well just make the most out of it and try to hit up everything else and just suck it up later and wait for Donkey Kong.
00:15:16
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yeah It's going to be a long wait regardless. Yep. We went to Minecart Madness. I think it was posted two hours, over two hours. Waited in single riders about 45 minutes, which was fine. Yeah. Not bad.
00:15:30
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Yeah, not bad at all. um The ride's fine. The system is cool. It's a little janky. i do think it kind of works with the theme of the ride, though. I think it's supposed to be a little janky.
00:15:43
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Stardust. Kelly, it is not the best ride in the world. In your opinion. Is it in top It is very good.
00:15:54
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I'm not sure if I like yellow or green better, honestly. I need a few more rides on each one. And then maybe some front row rides also, but it is world-class coaster for sure.
00:16:07
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ah did Monsters a couple times. The first time everything was working, it was great. Nice. The second time, the first Dracula was just kind of like bent over, like arms hanging forward.
00:16:22
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Something else didn't work. Oh, yeah. The free shows were broken. Yeah, I know the pre-shows are broken. I think those have been broken for a few weeks, actually, from what I've been reading. um Also, Igor was broken. They had like him in a curtain, basically.
00:16:37
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Yeah. yeah and Not great the second ride. I'm not sure what happened sort of midday there. Oh, yeah, and then Werewolf, that is that is a ride.
00:16:48
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It's fun. it didn't do much for me. It was fine, though. Very short. Yeah. That pretty much covers it. The mac and cheese cones are delicious.
00:17:01
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So good. Yes. I will absolutely be getting that again. Rafa and I tried those for the first time as well. And and it was so good. Delicious. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. had a ah very good second Epic visit.
00:17:15
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10 million times better than my first one. So...
00:17:22
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Yeah, this was my fourth, I want to say fourth time at Epic. And i think really the only new thing for me is like very much solidified that I prefer monsters to ministry.
00:17:33
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100%. Yeah. i mean i will say though This podcast would say that. and Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking though. I'm like, do I just like this more because I like spooky? Because I do like Harry Potter, but like, I think just altogether, it's just a better ride in my opinion.
00:17:51
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There's a lot more to it. Like we were talking about it while we were waiting for, I think when we were in the queue for ministry, Joey and I were saying that like, I feel like monsters is like the full package, like in the sense that like the queue, there's so much to look at. Whereas like once you pass that main point in ministry, it's just a bunch of green walls, like everywhere. There's not much to look at.
00:18:13
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um So yeah, feel like it, I feel like monsters just feels way more complete. And the ratio of physical sets to screens is just perfect in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:26
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100%. I did have a change of heart, though, when it comes to ministry. um i actually really enjoyed it this time. like i I really, really liked it. i i was blown away this time. I was like, wow, okay.
00:18:39
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I can't say what I said before. forgot you had that take. Oh, my God. I hated I hated it. I wasn't fan. I think it was just combination of, of course,
00:18:51
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The hype going into it, it was previews. Everybody was just going crazy over everything in Epic, um specifically this ride and the whole virtual queue thing. like Everything about it just seemed like a hassle. And just to finally ride it just felt very underwhelming.
00:19:08
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And it was funny. like that It was funny to watch you walking off because I was like, so. and he was like, oh, yeah, that was better. And I will say like it was only my second ride. I've ridden it once before. And the ride that we got on that day was and I wrote it again later and was still the same.
00:19:26
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everything was functioning like yeah the the effects that I hadn't even seen before were working and like minor details were working and so we got like 100% of that right experience and when you do like assuming it's all working get that I think it does kind of level it up a little bit in terms of some of the physical things that are happening besides the screens yeah yeah know i was i was I was very impressed.
00:19:50
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I think walking out, like Joey was saying, i I looked at him and I was like, damn it. was like, okay, that was actually pretty good. but But yeah, it was it was redeeming. And I feel like I got to spend more time in the Potter area.
00:20:05
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um we got and We got to go into um the wand shop and walked around a little bit in there. So that was that was nice. I didn't get much of that in my previous visit, so.
00:20:15
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This was a Potter visit for me. I guess that was the redeeming part for me. so But Monsters is still better. I'm not changing that. Yeah. Yep. For sure. but But yeah, I mean, Epic was great.
00:20:29
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um We didn't get yellow and green. We only got green, which I'm a yellow guy, but i don't know, Kelly. Green was really good that day. The front.
00:20:43
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The front, yes. The front is on green. The of green is better for some reason. Yes. Yeah, I agree. A lot better. and i was lot better than Not better than yellow, but like best on green, yes.
00:20:54
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Yeah, no, I don't think I would change that. I think I still prefer yellow, but I was very impressed. Like before I was kind of like, um well, I don't think it comes that close. Like, I mean, I think I just like yellow a lot more, but this time I was like, okay, like I get it.
00:21:07
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Like I see what people are saying about this, but think I'm still yellow. first That was really the only thing that a problem that day was the half of Stardust being down. There wasn't a lot of other downtime, which is kind of unusual. yeah Green has better interactions with the other train was my take after just a few rides.
00:21:28
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That's what I hear most people talk about when they talk about it being better. Yeah. It's like the dueling aspect is better. And I didn't notice that while I was riding it. Like, because I couldn't, the other train wasn't there. I was sort of following the other track and like reaching for it with my hands. And I was like, oh, wow, you do get some nice, like closeness.
00:21:45
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Yeah. now And I did try the, um what was the other, of the ride? The Dragons one. The ride Dragon Racer's Rally, I think it's called. There we go. Yeah. Rode that for the first time. That was my first time riding that kind of ride.
00:21:59
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He's never done a Skyfly. yeah there I was in the queue like motioning with my arms like a crazy person trying to explain how to do it. Yeah, but it worked because it got one flip and one flip where I was stuck upside down for like a good couple seconds.
00:22:13
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So that was pretty fun. That's really good, flipping your first time ever riding that model. I know. I went into it and I'm like, there's no way it's going to happen. And even halfway through, I'm like, it's not happening.
00:22:25
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like it's not actually with the short ride cycle on that it's right it's tough to get a lot i think i ended up getting like seven or eight but i'm experienced like i know how to do it but watching other people try ah oh man they are not good at it yeah like when i finally got to that point i was like yes i was like i got it and then i was just like stuck there i'm like that's fine i did it that's all i'm
00:22:48
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trying to think of what else we did that was new that day. It was first of all, it was a Sunday and the Sundays have the lowest queue times of any day. Currently, once annual passes come out, that'll probably change. But for now, before APs can access Epic, I would highly recommend going on a Sunday.
00:23:03
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It might be a little bit more expensive, like for a weekend ticket, but it was worth it the day we went. Like the queues were perfect. Everything except Super Mario, which always kind of gets crazy, but even Mario Kart later in the day dropped from its normal like 90 to 60 range down to 30.
00:23:16
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And we single rider it in like two minutes. I mean, we just literally right on it. Donkey Kong was the only thing that was a mess all day. And I did the single rider line for that and had regrets because it was like posted 40 and took 45. Yeah.
00:23:30
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ah oh um But yeah. So I also try we we went up to bar Helios actually. Yeah. um It is pricey, but high quality.
00:23:43
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Very nice. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. And I think it's it's just for the vibe. Like you're just going for the vibe. Maybe get a drink or two. yeah But it is it is pricey. um i was kind of disappointed to see like the lack of, I feel like it was very small as far as like food options go.
00:24:01
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Yeah. It's more of like a tapas situation than a cocktail meal. I was kind of hoping for like, I think maybe because I was already like pretty hungry by that time. i was like, i kind of want something bigger. Mm-hmm. um but But yeah, overall, it was very nice. A very nice spot.
00:24:17
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I would go back, but yeah, it is it is pretty pretty pricey. so Is there a good view of the park from there? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's an incredible view from up there.
00:24:29
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The best views are at outdoor tables, so we did not choose to sit out in that humidity. But obviously, once you're up there, you can walk around and see the views yeah and everything. I imagine being up there at night is The best.
00:24:42
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Yeah. Just seeing all the lighting of the park and even the fountain show like that would be so cool. Yeah. Yeah, i would like to check that out at nighttime, but but during the daytime, it was still very nice. um i don't even remember what drinks we got. I think I got like a bourbon one or yeah, think I got think I got one with bourbon.
00:25:02
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You got the rum. It was like a rum. um I got one that had like rum, rye, Aperol. It was strong. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yours was very strong.
00:25:14
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Yeah. They were both craft cocktails, though. They were like, you know, balanced well and tasted good. And we got pork belly. um That was really delicious. That's probably the best pork belly I've ever had and that same in that restaurant. It was very, very solid. and But yeah, but that pretty much caps the epic...
00:25:33
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update was pretty redeeming for myself, at least for Potter. Um, and it was a very smooth day. Like it was crowd wise. It was incredible.
Ranking HHN Houses
00:25:43
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Um, but moving on to hn we can start talking about it now, which we're actually going to start off with our rankings, each of our rankings.
00:25:55
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Um, and if you don't want any spoilers, you can stop after the rankings. because then we'll go more into detail after that. you can just come back and listen once you finally attend the event. um But we'll go over those rankings at first, um just so that we can get those out of the way.
00:26:10
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But yeah, so I guess we'll start off with our number 10.
00:26:17
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Mine is Five Nights at Freddy's. Five Nights at Freddy's. Five Nights at Freddy's. was going to say, should we all just say it on three? i wasn't sure if you put it too, Tyler. good yeah I did, did. Okay, so Five Nights at Freddy's, I think.
00:26:33
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That is our tens. Nine. Dolls. Yeah. Mine is also, my number nine is also dolls. Dolls. Mine is Fallout.
00:26:46
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Okay. Number eight. Grave of flesh. Grave of flesh. Grave of flesh. WWE. Oh my god.
00:26:59
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We had
00:27:03
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we had a lot of conversations about this. All right. Number seven. Fallout. Also Fallout. Dolls.
00:27:15
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Grave of flesh. So close. Yeah. yeah Close. Six. Galkin.
00:27:25
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Minus Jason Universe. Minus Jason Universe. Jason. All right. i see I see that we're kind of like, not i mean well besides WWE for you, Tyler, but everything is kind of lining up here.
00:27:38
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Yeah. um Okay, and then now we have our top five. So number five. w WWE. Why it's six. Don't come for me. It's LRT stuff. That's crazy. We will get into that.
00:27:51
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We will get into that. But I, when I saw that, i i was like, no way. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Okay. Mine is, wait, we're five. for me.
00:28:02
Speaker
Mine's fallout. no Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Number four. Jason universe. My number four terrifier. Terrifier.
00:28:15
Speaker
Mine is Galkin. Mine is Artista.
00:28:20
Speaker
All right. And number three. Top three. Hatchet and Chains. My number three is w WWE. Mine is Terrifier.
00:28:33
Speaker
My number three is Galkin. Wow. Okay. All right. Number two. ah Arts House, Terrifier.
00:28:45
Speaker
Making a giant jump on my last night. My number two is Galkin. I remember hearing about that. Mine is El Artista.
00:28:56
Speaker
um number two is Terrifier. All right. And number one. My number one for now, based on the visits we've had, El Artista. El Artista.
00:29:08
Speaker
My number one is shockingly to me jumping from number nine on my hype list to my number one is hatchet and chains. Mine is hatchet and chains.
00:29:21
Speaker
Hatchet and chains. Hell yeah. Nobody else says this except for us. Yeah, I know, but I love that we're in sync with this. I love that we're, I mean, well not Joey, even though. It's still in my top three.
00:29:35
Speaker
I mean, exactly. It's still up there and. Artista is a great, cause I was actually torn between those two hatchet and um Artista, but I think, I think hatche Hatchet was my number one, the first night, the second night, the third night and the fourth night.
00:29:51
Speaker
Like it was just consistently good. Every run I got, we'll talk more about it, but it just, and I can't move it. It's so good. And you guys saw when I got really scared in there and I fell.
00:30:04
Speaker
Yeah, you were on the ground. for I love when people fall. So before we get more into detail, there is a scene where one guy jumped out, one demon jumped out from one side.
00:30:15
Speaker
I was laughing at Shay getting scared and I was kind of looking in that direction. But then I turn over and I see that there was another demon right here, like right like up to my face and it freaked me out. And I backed off like as if something were about to hit me. And then I tripped and I fell to the ground So that's what happened. So just because of that, and of course, having some very, very solid run throughs, that's why I have to have that number one.
00:30:38
Speaker
It was too good. Too good of a scare. Too good. upset but But yeah, so we will, so we're going to read some descriptions just to go over, just give everybody a bit of a refresher on what each house is about.
00:30:55
Speaker
And then after that, or no, actually we'll talk about it in detail as we go over it. Right. Yeah. right. So if you don't want any spoilers, was that? I said, Tim, click away. Yeah, Tim, click away.
00:31:08
Speaker
Anybody that does not want to hear any spoilers, you can click away now and just save the rest of this episode for after your visit. um But yeah, we're going to go ahead and start talking about these houses.
00:31:21
Speaker
So, okay. That was enough time. You should have left by now if you don't want to hear it. So, so okay. So first house, we're going to go in you know, an order of, you know, we're going to go in clockwise order.
00:31:33
Speaker
So number one, first house we're going into is WWE. Okay. I took this one because I like it more than everyone else. So WWE, the horrors Wyatt six, the description from universal is you're about to go head to head with the fiendish Wyatt six, enter an eerie arena where you will go through an ominous experience.
00:31:53
Speaker
Lantern lit doorway into the maniacal minds of uncle howdy rambling rabbit mercy the buzzard abby the witch and husk is the pig beware you're about to meet your match um so we talked i mean certainly refer to our other episodes when we kind of talked about what we expect to be in these houses um i gave like a little history of bray wyatt and the wyatt six and what all that is that's in one of our our previous episodes um I think, you know, just to kind of briefly go through the house, you, and this is like very spoiler filled, you enter the soundstage and the, um I guess, facade of this house is just kind of like pedestals with the different characters of the Wyatt Six on them. and there's a great scare right there where,
00:32:42
Speaker
Um, most of the characters are like mannequins static, but one of them is not. Um, I always love that kind of a scare and they did it really well there. And then you enter the house and kind of go through the set of w WWE, which is similar to how the Wyatt Six were introduced, where there was like a massacre backstage. So you kind of walk through that and then,
00:33:03
Speaker
you eventually kind of go through a room for each of the characters for the Wyatt Six. And then it kind of ends with more of a Bray Wyatt tribute with kind of like the Bayou vibe. And you have a chair with his lantern on it, which I thought was a really poignant end.
00:33:19
Speaker
That's kind of just like an overview of of how the house flows. I thought we could... talk about like what the highs and lows of each of these houses are.
00:33:29
Speaker
So i can go first. I wrote some little notes for me. um and let me find it. Cause I have them in a weird order. Um, for me, the highs there are more than lows. I would say like,
00:33:43
Speaker
The sequence of the rooms made a lot of sense. The entry scare was really good. um i like the music that they use. They use the same kind of like enter entrance music that they use for the Wyatt six when they're on TV.
00:33:56
Speaker
And I really, really loved the ending with the empty lantern on the rocking chair. um I have consumed a lot of other podcasts since we've been and just kind of listened to other people's reactions. And there are some like really serious wrestling fans who have like cried in this house, which I think is like,
00:34:15
Speaker
exciting and cool for them yeah um i'm not obviously as emotionally attached as they are but i like get what they were going for and i think that was really well done for me the con of the house isn't really even the house it's just like if you want to get the most out of this house i think you have to have done a little bit of research on what all of this means if not you're approaching it like an original and i still think it can be appreciated but i think like the more you know the more you'll get out of it which is not you know the easiest for everybody to get into before going to do that.
00:34:47
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. you guys think a hundred percent with that. Um, that is kind of a con. I wasn't really thinking of it as a con, but that's what I was going to say is that the reason why, and I know I, I guess I placed a kind of low compared, well, Rafa was in the same place with me.
00:35:01
Speaker
Um, I think I really need another run in it. Most of you guys got multiple runs, but I only got one through this one. um And I need another run to really kind of wrap my head around it. But if I had not done the research and not sort of understood what this IP was, what the storyline was, if I hadn't seen the video of their entrance to w WWE with all of the backstage hallways and everything, I would not have recognized what I was walking through and why it was cool.
00:35:29
Speaker
um Yeah, that was like my reaction to it. I was like, wow, this is really cool how they literally replicated this scene from the video and you're walking through it. um And I thought the the moments with each of the characters were well done as well.
00:35:42
Speaker
I think they got me a couple times in this one, so I didn't find it to be, you know, not scary at all. I don't think that I like. IP is necessarily the scariest thing in the world. I think it's just kind of cool. um Yeah.
00:35:54
Speaker
So like it's not necessarily a ah creepy vibe the whole time, but um it was it was really neat. I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, I feel like with this house, like even though i have it like in the middle, um I feel like it was mostly i think I just liked the other houses slightly more.
00:36:14
Speaker
It's not that I did not like it or anything like that. I feel like this house felt like a passion project for the team. You could tell that they really loved this IP and especially hearing about these fans that are getting emotional in the house. They they did it right.
00:36:30
Speaker
You know, like they they did it the right way. um So, yeah, I don't know. For me, I think it's just that I think it's just that I like the other houses more. But this had a very unique concept. I loved how you would go in and you would have all these signs, you know, these signs looking as if you're like in some sort of backstage. And it's just very, like, interesting. And the actors are actually like they're in it, like they're really like going hard on these scares.
00:36:55
Speaker
So they're doing everything that they can to like bring up the energy, which helps so much. Because you know if you're not going to you know a lot of people are going to go into this house not knowing much about WWE in general.
00:37:05
Speaker
So at least like they're putting in the energy to make up for the lack of knowledge you know going into the house. Yeah. And they were playing some stuff in the queue, actually, which was helpful. like But the thing is, like they only played the entrance thing. i I did this house more times than any other house. I did it four runs.
00:37:24
Speaker
And i only saw their entrance video twice, but I saw like some other weird interview clips like a billion times. I feel like they would really do this house a lot more service if they played more Firefly Funhouse clips, entrance clips, like show who these people are. Because I hear people in queue like, what is this house about? Let me get on Wikipedia and like look it up.
00:37:47
Speaker
I just think that they could, people would enjoy it more if they knew more. Yeah, 100%. hundred percent Yeah, I had it the lowest out of any of us. so I had it eighth.
00:37:57
Speaker
And I think that just comes from me not really understanding wrestling, not really understanding the IP. Like I did a little bit of research. I didn't watch the documentary. I'm not, I know Kelly, you did. I don't know if you guys did also, but I feel like I had the background. It's just, I don't know. WWE just isn't appealing to me at all. I don't understand it. It's like,
00:38:21
Speaker
are you a sport or are you the theater? Like make up your mind, I don't get it. Sorry to the WWE w fans that listen, I know we have a couple, but I think that translated over to the house. I loved the the first scare um outside the facade.
00:38:38
Speaker
I loved the tribute to Bray at the end with the lantern in the ah the rocking chair, but i don't know, I just really don't get the appeal of it.
00:38:48
Speaker
There was some good scares, um It sort of felt like an ad a little bit. There was lots of WWE w logos throughout the house just randomly. Yeah, i noticed that too.
00:39:00
Speaker
Yeah.
Critique of Five Nights at Freddy's House
00:39:01
Speaker
I don't know. I... I think overall it's a flop just based on the wait times. I think Universal expected a lot more out of this house and for it to have the lowest wait times of any house from what I've seen so far and just seeing how much of that soundstage they set up for the queues and they are never full.
00:39:22
Speaker
I think Universal is probably very disappointed in the turnout that they've had with this house so far. Okay, hater. Next I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, it's it's it's a solid house, but i could see that. I could see how that's like... could see how a lot of people are going to go into it not really seeing much of an appeal to it. like i don't i feel like they're not going to really care for it just because of the WWE thing.
00:39:41
Speaker
um But yeah, I don't know. For me, I saw a lot of potential in that house. I could see it getting better throughout the season. I think one thing, too, is like a lot of the houses...
00:39:53
Speaker
I had very different experiences amongst my different runs. Not that I got a ton, um but like this one was pretty consistent whether I got right on the scares or not. Like I felt like it was pretty, pretty stable experience every time I went through and I like looked forward to it every time. So I feel like it has potential to move maybe a little bit up or down depending on how some of the other houses go, but it was definitely not dependent on how easily I got scared like a lot of the other houses were.
00:40:25
Speaker
I don't really know what I'm saying about it. i I'm just saying, I guess there's like more to what makes it good than just the scares. Whereas at some of the other houses, it really is dependent a lot upon scares. Right.
00:40:36
Speaker
All right. So moving on to the next house, we have five nights at Freddy's, which was the, the one we all agreed on that is dead last for all of us.
00:40:48
Speaker
Yeah, so the universal description is you wouldn't last one night at Freddy's, let alone five. You're about to start the night watch at Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria, where nothing is what it seems. You'll be hunted by the deadly animatronics Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy as you flee through creepy abandoned hallways.
00:41:04
Speaker
You'll even encounter the ghosts in the machines. Rafa and I, as we said, waited 80 minutes for this. It is clearly the most popular IP at the park. The queues have been insane. um Yeah.
00:41:17
Speaker
It's the most popular stand scream. It opens with a two hour line. um It like clearly has motivated the the demographic that it serves to come out for this event.
00:41:30
Speaker
um I think there's a question about that later that we can talk about a little bit. um So it's not... It's at the bottom because I don't have an attachment to this IP.
00:41:44
Speaker
I did the same level of research, I would say, as I did with WWE. w Like, I watched videos online um about explaining the lore and explaining how it's all set up and everything.
00:41:56
Speaker
And i I just didn't connect with it in the way that I did with WWE. Like, when i when I saw the WWE stuff, I was like, oh I get... how this is horror, like how it's spooky.
00:42:07
Speaker
This, I was kind of like, okay, like I don't, I don't really get it. um yeah And and i got that as a game and probably not having played the game that contributes to part of my lack of understanding for this.
00:42:20
Speaker
um The animatronics were very impressive, very well done. Apparently they worked with Jim Henson on it. um They were cool to see. I didn't find them scary at all.
00:42:32
Speaker
um i They appear to be in some cases set up to try to be scary, but they're just too slow ah be scary. yeah And there were not a lot of ah actual scare actor like humans in the in the house, which contributed to probably me finding it not as scary.
00:42:51
Speaker
Um, it, it, it feels weird to put it last because I do think that they invested a good amount in the set design and the animatronics, which, you know, it it looked good.
00:43:03
Speaker
And I recognized parts of the sets as we were walking through like the security office and the the pizza place and everything. And I was like, yep, this is it. But it was kind of just like walking through a movie set in that way and not a haunted house.
00:43:16
Speaker
So, yeah. Yeah. fully agree with what you just said like yeah i get for people that are huge fans of this franchise like this you're you're basically walking through the set of the movie and experiencing that but it is not a haunted house like it is just not what you come to expect from hhn and maybe not everybody cares about that but I agree. i didn't get like any scares whatsoever. like Them turning on the like lights of the eyeballs of the animatronic is not going to scare me. Sometimes scare actors are going to scare me. And I think like what everyone prefers is different. I love a good set, but like I'm going to rank houses higher. And I said this last year when we reviewed HHN.
00:43:59
Speaker
that scare me. I love to be scared. So like I really weigh heavily scares and I put that as the biggest con. There were no scares and then lack of like live actors. There were some puppeteers and there were some victims in there.
00:44:15
Speaker
um But also like one that I thought, one animatronic that I thought could be really scary. Did you guys see the one that was like stationed on a track? Yes.
00:44:26
Speaker
yeah I was like, this thing is supposed to move out and be in my in my grill and it wasn't moving at all. it wasn't working. Supposedly it hasn't worked since like opening. Well, that's really upsetting because that probably had a little bit of potential, but the only pros I wrote, I agree with you, is that like the animatronics and the set design is cool, but nothing else about this house.
00:44:48
Speaker
I'm not saying it's terrible. It's not like Chucky level or like It's not that bad. I understand how it has appeal, but like, it's just not for me. Just definitely not for me.
00:44:59
Speaker
And luckily i only did this house twice. It was the one I did the least. The first time we waited like 55 minutes when it was posted much higher. So that was lucky. And then I rope dropped it the second time I did it and barely waited, but.
00:45:13
Speaker
I don't think I'd be waiting much longer than a half hour for this house. And I doubt it'll ever be that low. Nope. Done with it. yeah i feel like it's just a very silly house. um And I feel like the IP itself, like there isn't much variety when it comes to like how you can get people to scare like guests, like there isn't much to it.
00:45:34
Speaker
Like, the the cupcake jumping thing was funny and it I did see it get a couple people and then there was a pretty cool scare where they had like one of the animatronic like bare hands like like kind of move a curtain out of the way or something like that. That was the best thing. That was probably the best one. Like, I feel like that was, that was HHN level right there. Like with the sound effects and everything, that's a good scare right there.
00:45:57
Speaker
But the rest of it, there's just nothing going for it. Like, I feel like you said, it felt more like a set, like a movie set than anything. Like, and I feel like it's not, I feel like it's daytime attraction.
00:46:09
Speaker
Yeah, like I feel like if you were to go into this house, just if you went to this event just for Five Nights at Freddy's and you go into this house first, you have no idea what you're in store for when it comes to the rest of the houses because it's nothing like that.
00:46:22
Speaker
So I just feel like it's not a very good like like example of what the event, you know, entails. Was there, did I miss Josh Hutcherson? Like where was his character? He's the main character in the movie. I didn't see an actor trying to portray him.
00:46:38
Speaker
I think there was one at the very beginning. um oh like the one that was like shaking their head. Yeah, I think it was that, but the actor kind of looked like kid. So I didn't know if that was Josh Hutcherson or like a kid.
00:46:54
Speaker
Like, I don't know. You guys pretty much said it all. um I think if they opened this during the daytime and just called it the Five Nights at Freddy's walkthrough, it'd be way better.
00:47:07
Speaker
But it's just, it's not scary. And it is disappointing because I actually do like this IP. i enjoyed the movie movie for the most part. I think it had a lot of potential. And the set's good, but it's it just doesn't live up to the scariness that it needs to have, especially with the lines that it's pulling.
00:47:26
Speaker
Definitely. but I mean, it's pretty it's pretty neat. it's ah It's a fun walkthrough, I guess, if you're not waiting over 100 minutes to go in, which is most likely going to be the case for the most part.
00:47:37
Speaker
But moving on to a better house, we have Artista, a Spanish haunting.
Artista House Praise
00:47:44
Speaker
And it is, this is the description. In 19th century Spain, a tortured artist moves into an isolated country manor for inspiration, but the art comes alive and possesses him.
00:47:56
Speaker
This house is beautiful. Like the set to this house is incredible. um probably one of the most beautiful houses that I've seen out of all the years that I've been attending the event. It is very fascinating seeing like how much detail they put into that, especially that facade.
00:48:16
Speaker
um This, I was very torn when it came to putting this and the at number one or number two, um but we'll get more into details as to why chose hatchet and chains, but this is just all around. I feel like this had the perfect fit.
00:48:33
Speaker
combination of scares and set designs. um And that's what I really appreciated when it came to that house. Like, I feel like they, everything looks beautiful and the the actors were just as intense.
00:48:44
Speaker
They were just as cool looking like the, you know, the different, there were a lot of different costumes in this house as well. um And story-wise it was very cool. Like, I just feel like it was a very like interesting story and there's not much to it. i mean, it's a pretty easy story to follow while you're walking in there.
00:49:02
Speaker
Um, But yeah, I mean, what did you guys think? I mean, i that was an incredible house for me. I loved it. I mean, i one joey I obviously agree with you. um It's it's giving blood moon. It's giving that legacy of just beautiful set designs. And I think for me,
00:49:18
Speaker
I have a hard time getting scared at this event. um And maybe it's just from overexposure to Halloween stuff. Like I wish that I still felt nervous going into these houses, but I don't anymore really. ah Like it has to be like, I'm on my own in the middle of the dark woods for me to get nervous like that.
00:49:32
Speaker
So I like the set design weighs more heavily into my experience of these houses because I go in, The way that I get scared more is I go in and I appreciate the set. So I'm just looking all around in different directions and then they will scare me because I'm not paying attention to where's your boo hole.
00:49:48
Speaker
I'm looking at details of the set design. um And this house is full of details. And so I was worried going in. This was still high on my hype list just because I kind of expected this this level of set design, but I was worried it wouldn't be scary.
00:50:02
Speaker
And there, are at least for me, there were a good number of decent scares in this house. um And also a lot of actors, I felt. um Also, like different unique ways to do it. Like there were mirrors, there was like a Pepper's ghost effect.
00:50:16
Speaker
um I only caught this on my second run, had no idea on the first run, there was there's a gargoyle that flies overhead in one of the rooms. That was super cool. It wasn't on your first run. Yeah. Yeah. There was nobody there.
00:50:26
Speaker
Yeah. and I didn't even notice it on my second run. Yeah. So i look there's details that like you might not even notice the first time. um i love the facade. I love the, the fountain room and then the greenhouse room after it. Like I love when you enter a space and it goes vertical and it's just opens up.
00:50:43
Speaker
Because so much of HHN is tight hallways, which understandably for scary reasons. But when you get a set that opens up and like fully immerses you, i get really excited. So when we hit those rooms, I was like, oh, this is so cool.
00:50:55
Speaker
I really want to like this house more. I just can't put it any higher right now until I get a better run through. i love this set. It's beautiful, as you said. But ah just feel like both of my run throughs have been lacking the scares.
00:51:11
Speaker
The first time was actually the best. I had the gargoyle go over. He was awesome. The second time on Friday, i looked up and there was like a maintenance guy there working on the mechanism. Like...
00:51:23
Speaker
It wasn't great. I felt like a lot of boo holes were empty. And to be fair, we were in the first, what, a hundred people to go through for the night. It had just opened up. So maybe that's the problem.
00:51:35
Speaker
Um, I anticipate this at least staying where it is, if not going up one or two as the event goes on, but I just, I have not had a great run through yet of this house.
00:51:46
Speaker
Yeah. i have a similar opinion. um I've had three run-throughs and it took till my third one to even have some semblance of a scare. And it was the stilt guy right at the entrance got me. And I even like knew he was there, but it since still got me.
00:52:01
Speaker
I agree with most of everything that you said. I said the set design is beautiful. We talked about Dylan Colas, previous houses. He did goblins and dead mans and blood moon. And one thing I feel like he does really well. And you alluded to it too, Joey is he makes sets with open spaces still be scary.
00:52:20
Speaker
And I feel like he does that so well. If you think about all of the houses he's done, it is very much like an outdoor, almost feeling environment in a soundstage, which is, I think like pretty hard to create. Like Blood Moon had that vibe. Dead Man's had that vibe.
00:52:36
Speaker
um I think it was beautiful. The aesthetic was so pretty and like really does permeate into the whole rest of the event. I love that this is kind of their like signature house of the year. um The story is strong. I think you can understand it well without even listening to like the podcast about it or like really knowing the lore because he's kind of narrating it. Sergio's narrating it a little bit.
00:52:58
Speaker
Um, the amount of tricks, this was supposed to be like, oh, we put all the tricks in this house. And I do see how they did that. They had the bungee guy. They had stilts. They had, like you said, Pepper's ghost. They had mirrors.
00:53:08
Speaker
They had parts where you could see through to other parts of like the queue. yeah. For me, the biggest con is just that I felt like there were a lot of empty boo holes on all of my runs and it took a bunch of runs for me to get scared. And that just is something that's really important to me.
00:53:26
Speaker
I want to, like Tyler said, like this house more. It was high on my hype list. Everybody that had gone before us was like really hyping this up as the best house. So i i i think my expectations just weren't quite met on this one, but i think it has potential to move if I get good runs in the future.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like this was very impressive. Like, like you said, like the whole like being able to do this and making it look, you know, make it into such an open space in these sound stages. It's very cool.
00:53:55
Speaker
It's very interesting how they go about that. And they had so many tricks in there. So, I mean, I don't know. I had a bunch of scares in there. So I think that's why I liked it so much. um But overall, like you could just tell that they they put a lot of work into this house.
00:54:10
Speaker
I really, really enjoyed it. Every walkthrough that I had was pretty solid. Just to add, it was Tom's favorite. Like immediately when he left, he's like, this is the best house I've ever been in HHN.
00:54:22
Speaker
Like he didn't stay that way like after. Yeah. Yeah. And he's gone for the last four years and he says it's his favorite house he's been in. So I could see that. i don't know how he got such a different run than me when we were less than a foot apart from each other. Okay. I've seen it happen. You know, like sometimes you're walking and the person behind you gets everything.
00:54:42
Speaker
Yeah. And they're that close to you. They're right there. But it's yeah. Well, he gets everything. They know they know to get him. Yeah. Yeah. But all right. But moving on Terrifier.
00:54:57
Speaker
So Terrifier description. Nothing can prepare you for this grisly haunted house based on all three of Damien Leone's Terrifier films. Try your luck against this the sadistic Art the Clown in his twisted fun house.
00:55:10
Speaker
Witness Art's gleefully grotesque handiwork of torture. You'll be left literally dripping with terror and drenched in fear. It's a whole new level of gore. I love this house.
00:55:22
Speaker
It has a little bit of everything, I feel like. It's very detailed. The actors are great. Every person that is cast at Art just plays that character so well.
00:55:34
Speaker
It's gory, but somehow whimsical at the same time, which I think fits the movies perfectly. i love that it does all three houses.
00:55:45
Speaker
And then you have the symphony of blood at the end, which... I don't know. Maybe it's a little anticlimactic, but I think that's probably based on other guests that hyped it up a little too much saying you have to wear a poncho through it. But the spoiler is basically it's just water that's spraying on you. I think of it as like if you set off the fire sprinklers in a building something like you definitely don't need a poncho, but you're going to get fairly wet.
00:56:22
Speaker
um But the the thing that sticks out for me is just the casting of the arts. Every single one is playful. They have the facial expressions and the mannerisms down perfectly.
00:56:34
Speaker
The one that sticks out to me is the one that's ah singing the Clown Cafe song. Even when he goes back in his boo hole, you can kind of see him a little bit. And he is just sort of swaying back and forth, dancing and singing the song still. i love that. so I really love this. My number two. I can't wait to get some more runs in it.
00:56:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think yeah what I loved about this house was that like, I feel like sometimes in HHN, when it comes to certain IPs, like they will make characters that are silly in the movies, like they would make them aggressive just for the sake of getting the scare out of the guests.
00:57:13
Speaker
And I feel like with this one, they made sure to keep that like that comedic tone and that like that charm that art has throughout the entire house. Like I felt like they didn't change that character one bit and it still worked.
00:57:27
Speaker
every single way that they used him in that house. um That's what I loved about it. And that was my biggest note that I just love that they kept that art, like comedic energy throughout the entire house.
00:57:39
Speaker
I do feel like the blood path, the wet path was just a way to hype people up. And it worked because, you know, we were all wondering like how that was going to work.
00:57:52
Speaker
um I was kind of expecting for it to be more of like, I felt like I was, I thought there were going scenes that were just going to shoot more water at you. That's what I was expecting.
00:58:03
Speaker
um it kind of ended up just being like, like, like you're just walking through light rain. I mean, not super light rain, but you're getting some rain on you. That's how it kind of felt like if you're just walking through rain.
00:58:15
Speaker
It kind of felt like if you were walking in the rain under a building, you know how the water drips off the building a little bit more than it does when it's actually raining. Yes. forget the air Yes. yeah yeah building That's what it was.
00:58:29
Speaker
Yeah. Because I did notice in case, I mean, if anyone is listening to this, that does not care for spoilers. If you're with a group that wants to go through the wet path, I did notice that if you stay more towards the right side of that hallway, you will get wet less.
00:58:44
Speaker
Yeah. On the left side, i felt a lot more water coming down. If you stay to the right, you won't get as wet. So you can just go through there. Yeah, i agree with go ahead I agree with that. I was going to say I agree with that. I got less wet on the right hand side.
00:58:58
Speaker
Yeah. Did you guys do the the dry path by any chance? I actually haven't. Yeah, I haven't either. It's just so hot, I want to get wet. yeah Once it cools down, if it'll cool down a little bit, it is Florida. But I'd like to try the dry side. I heard there's one scare in there.
00:59:16
Speaker
Yeah, there has to be because there really isn't much going on in the wet path at all. Like, it's just water coming. think that's probably for safety reasons, too. They could have definitely done more with the set, but if they're trying to scare people while they're walking on, like, a wet, like, a walkway is probably not the vibe. but Yeah, yeah.
00:59:32
Speaker
They could have done more for sure. That was like my one con is like, I felt like the house was so good and I was like waiting for that climactic finish and it just like didn't really happen.
00:59:43
Speaker
But on the other hand, I have the most fun in this house every single time I go through. Like, even though it's not my favorite, I ranked it fourth. i have the most fun in there. My last night when I was there, I was like interacting more with the arts and like waving at them and stuff. And they would, he would like wave back at me. Like it was so fun. Like they are really doing the most, those arts.
01:00:04
Speaker
And um I agree with what you guys said about like leaning into the comedy. I thought that was a ah ah big pro. The music was excellent. Like the theme music when you first walk in, that made me like so hype for the house. i loved that. um And then the only other cons are like, I think it was a little bit light for me on the actual scares and like the gruesome Like they they kind of like really advertise this as like, this is going to be the most grotesque house we've ever done. Like it's going be so gory and maybe I'm just like immune to gore, but like it didn't really do that much for me, but I didn't need it. I don't need it for it to be a good fun house. I still enjoy it. It's just like not what the expectation was.
01:00:47
Speaker
for Yeah, I agree with that.
Impact of Teen-Friendly IPs
01:00:48
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think some of that happens when they build all of this stuff like in construction lighting, and then they do the actual theatrical lighting.
01:01:00
Speaker
And a lot of the details of the gore get lost in that, which totally fair, you don't want it to be too bright. It would be silly if it was. um And my second run, I did notice like more of the gross details because I was looking for them.
01:01:14
Speaker
But I agree, like you kind of you kind of don't notice this as much as they advertised it. um But I pretty much agree with everything everybody said, like the actors are the highlight in this. um It's just they're so fun and silly.
01:01:27
Speaker
and i I always appreciate a level of camp at HHN because that is a part of horror and Halloween to me is just Yeah, some of its camp and and that that is it. But um it's he's also just like a ah creepy character, too. So that it's not like entirely silly the whole time there. There's there are some good scare. I mean, I got a good scare in the Christmas hallway hallway. They set up a double scare in there and they got me twice. So I was like, oops, didn't know that was coming.
01:01:55
Speaker
um That was my. One note on the set design was that was the least interesting part of the set was that Christmas hallway, but they had set up a good scare in it. So I kind of forgive them for that. Yeah, the facade was super cool.
01:02:08
Speaker
um What else? I love when you walk into the clown cafe and the song is playing. I get hyped for that. I'm like, oh my gosh, we're in the clown cafe. And then you go through the the fire tunnel, like you're on fire. That that was a cool little moment as well.
01:02:22
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I agree about the wet thing. Like it, it kind of did feel a little gross because when rain drips off the building, it's kind of like splotchier and like bigger drops of water than like just a little bit of regular rain. So I kind of, I'm glad that they like did it that way. And it wasn't just a mist because that would have felt like a mist.
01:02:40
Speaker
Um, But kind of did feel a little bit like drips of something potentially more disgusting dropping on you. Yeah. And I understand why they couldn't put a scare in there. But it would be awesome if they had done, i don't know, it found a way to make something happen in there that was a little little more scary.
01:02:56
Speaker
But I will say that both times I ran the house, at the end of that, there was something. um Actually, two different things. Like one time I saw Sienna and she popped up at me. And then the other time I saw a headless art pop up at me.
01:03:08
Speaker
um So at least they put something yeah like at the end. Yeah. That's another thing. I did kind of expect there to be more characters from the movie, not just art. Yeah, I didn't. A lot of dead dummies.
01:03:22
Speaker
Yeah. I'm not mad at that though. Cause art's the reason. Yeah, it's fine. Art's the best. Yeah. Yeah. And this is just more of like, this just more about like his kills. and So I guess you can't really put characters that haven't been killed.
01:03:36
Speaker
Spoiler alert if you haven't watched Terrifier yet, but Sienna is alive. But for now, but yeah, so I guess there's not really much that you can do with her besides her jumping out saying help me or something, which is just kind of generic. So I kind of appreciate that they didn't force that on there.
01:03:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Very, very fun house. I can't wait to go back. um And to piggyback on that, Caleb did have a question.
01:04:05
Speaker
um And I think this was actually because of Tom's question, which I guess since we've talked about both IPs already, we can jump into both. um So Tom had a two-part question.
01:04:18
Speaker
um First question was, with more teenage-themed IPs this year, um like FNAF and Terrifier, do you think this is a trend that will continue or more...
01:04:30
Speaker
or more of a one-off? um And then also part two would be that the did the influx of teenagers cheapen the event for you? so I guess we'll start off with that and then we'll jump into Caleb's question.
01:04:45
Speaker
I didn't have problem with the teenagers on Wednesday or Thursday, but Friday night, they were bad. yeah Saturday was the worst. Oh my God. really setter They were running all over the place.
01:04:56
Speaker
It was so bad. oh Oh, it was so bad. It was really, really bad. He was an absolutely friday saturday yeah he was about to lose it in the terrifier queue when we were in there for 80 minutes and we were just surrounded by them and their antics.
01:05:09
Speaker
He's like, I don't shouldn't have to feel like I'm at work here. like He was so bad. So this is that's what sponsors this question for sure. But yeah, yeah, I agree. Wednesday and Thursday, it was kind of fine. And to answer the question, like, I don't know that they are going after any specific demographic with like age demographic with houses. Like I think it really just varies every year what IPs they get and they choose to use. I think they definitely are drawing in a different crowd. And I really think it's just
01:05:41
Speaker
Five nights. I don't think Terrifier is a teen IP. We'll get into that with Caleb's question. But I think like, First of all, i don't know how many teenagers are making enough cash that they can afford coming to HHN. Like it's just like another random park night at like their local park. But that's what it that's the vibe it gave off. They were there like they were there chilling. And especially after midnight. That's what I noticed it the most yeah because all of the old people left. And then I was just surrounded by like teenagers in the queues. was like, oh, OK, I'm old right now.
01:06:15
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think it might be that, guys. I think. To answer Tom's question, I think that we're just getting old. And I think like because honestly, like I don't really. OK, like Five nes five Nights at Freddy's, I do see that as a teen IP. I could see that.
01:06:31
Speaker
um But I feel like honestly, any IP can cater to the teens. Whenever you have like a big movie like Insidious is a very popular horror movie. um You know, like we've had American Horror Story before. We've had different IPs that are very popular regardless of who the focus demographic is.
01:06:49
Speaker
Like the teens are always going to go to it. Um, so I don't know. I don't think it's, I don't think it was really a teen focused thing. just being crotchety. We're just being crotchety. And like, and, and in terms of a trend to continue, like I think Kelly or somebody said it, they don't have the extra spending money. Like, especially if their parents bought the tickets and they go into the park.
01:07:10
Speaker
I don't think that you want to go after them, especially if they're too young to drink because they make money on alcohol sales at HHN, obviously. So I don't think they're specifically like, oh my God, we need to pick things to get teenagers in here.
01:07:22
Speaker
Also from my time working at Busch Gardens during Hallowscream, that's the demographic that caused the most problems. So the parks don't want them causing problems and destroying property and all of that. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:34
Speaker
Get off my lawn, kids. But no, I don't think to answer part two, I don't think that it cheapens the event for me. um Like you said, I mean, there are days that you can go and enjoy it without all of the kids being there, like how you guys had your Wednesday and Thursday night with not so many teens.
01:07:52
Speaker
um Obviously, during the weekends, it's it kind of sucks to see so many teens running around the place. But I mean, that's kind of expected. And then yeah yeah so to jump on ah what Caleb was saying, um he was just asking like if Terrifier is like a teen IP, considering like how much he's heard of the intensity and you know how graphic it is.
01:08:17
Speaker
And I don't think it is. I don't think it's a teen IP, but again, I just think it's like a name that teens would be familiar with, so they would gravitate towards that regardless. um Yeah.
01:08:29
Speaker
Teens should not be watching this movie. Also, Tom has never even seen this movie. he saw about two seconds of it and refuses to watch it. So don't know what he thinks he knows, but it is not a teen IP in my opinion.
01:08:42
Speaker
And to jump back to the kids, what annoys me more than anything is people that are taking their first step into the house and are already screaming like they're being murdered, whether they're teenagers or adults.
01:08:56
Speaker
You are ruining my run. Be scared when you're scared. Don't just consistently scream or don't come in. I can't hear anything. You do see that like performative scaredness from that demographic more than others, which is kind of annoying.
01:09:09
Speaker
Yeah. But that's not, it's not like this year in particular, like they've been at every event. Yeah. It's nothing new and certainly not unique to this event. No, not at all.
01:09:21
Speaker
I think I might have been wrecked if I watched Terrifier as a teenager. yeah for sure. If you are under the age of 17, you should not be watching Terrifier. Yeah. like That's a lot.
01:09:31
Speaker
That is a lot. I don't even think it's like rated r So it's not even 17, like technically, like it's like, I think it's like, like an unrated movie. So it's, yeah, it's a lot.
01:09:43
Speaker
So the teens should not be watching it regardless.
01:09:48
Speaker
Yeah. But, but all right. Caleb, Caleb, Caleb, you got to watch these before you go, my guy. Oh, I'm sure he will. He's going to do his homework, even though I don't think Caleb will like this movie.
01:10:00
Speaker
I do think that he will do his homework for sure. You got to learn about art. He's so fun. I think, and it definitely like, just like any other IP, except for five nights in this case, but, but like with WWE, know,
01:10:15
Speaker
like the same thing when you do your research and you know what's going on changes the experience. This one, it definitely does that. Like you would, when you see all three movies, you see who art the clown is. And when you see it in this haunted house, it it makes it so much you know more exciting and hilarious to watch, but all right. But moving on to grave of flesh.
Grave of Flesh Critique
01:10:38
Speaker
Hi, I'm here to be a hater.
01:10:41
Speaker
Grave of Flesh says, Welcome to your funeral where things are about to go from bad to worse. You'll enter your grave and then pass through the gates of the underworld where flesh eaters who feed on the dead will be waiting for you. Get lost in their cavernous underground world where an endless gauntlet of flesh eating creatures will hunt you mercilessly for all eternity.
01:10:57
Speaker
Okay. I have some bones to pick with this house. Okay. I see what you did there. Yeah. but but here's the thing. This was like the last house that I did. I didn't even do it the first night.
01:11:11
Speaker
Did it the second night. I listened to the podcast episode. i understand what the general like story is of this house. You go in your grave, you kind of are finding out what happens to you. All these monsters are like, you know, attacking your body while it's under the ground.
01:11:31
Speaker
Great. i feel like this house was so samey. Like there was just like nothing nothing different except for that one random room where there were spinning green lights.
01:11:42
Speaker
Yeah. And I don't know what that was. so confused by that. yeah i'm like, what? I'm like, we were just walking through the earth and now there's like, we're... I have no idea. where else I don't know. And then there's like, I listened to some podcasts that gave me a little bit more understanding. Like there were some staircases that were supposed to like be unattainable. That kind of like is supposed to be like, you're stuck there, like in purgatory.
01:12:08
Speaker
um there was apparently a part where you look up and you can see like a funeral tent over your grave. Didn't see it. Never saw it yeah. I don't know. I just felt like the whole first half was all the same thing. The facade was cool with like the grave digging guy outside. Cool.
01:12:27
Speaker
But like then the rest was all just the same. And it didn't tell the story well. that Like I didn't understand the sequence of events well. I did get a couple of decent scares in here. Like they i I don't know. Like, it's just one of those houses that I feel like as time goes on is going to become forgettable to me because it doesn't stand out in any specific or special way.
01:12:50
Speaker
Smells like dirt. Good use of scents, I guess. The characters are creepy. I just don't know what's happening. so Yeah, I think that was my biggest complaint, like how forgettable that house was. Like, i have it not at last or ninth. i have it at eighth because of the scares.
01:13:08
Speaker
I got some solid scares in there, but the set Like everything, like even the costumes, like it was very forgettable. Like even thinking, even after my second, you know, run through, I'm still thinking and wondering like what did happen in that house? Like what were some scenes that like I can remember and I can't remember many of them. yeah like I can't remember what the monsters look like at all in that house, really. I can't remember them. Even though they go all the same.
01:13:34
Speaker
Yeah, except there was like a random little girl in a nightgown. Like, what is happening? I remember that, That threw me off, too. Yeah. The monsters were like mutant chipmunks or something, from what I remember.
01:13:47
Speaker
That's how I picture them. Oh, my gosh, they kind of were. Yeah, I mean, i i I got to do this one twice, um which was one of the three I did twice, just because it was a short line at the end of the night for no other reason.
01:14:02
Speaker
I agree. It's definitely going to be forgettable in the future. But I also don't think it was bad. Like it was still decent. It just wasn't because the houses I think on average are really good this year. This one is just kind of like, okay, it's there.
Introduction to Jason Universe
01:14:16
Speaker
um I loved the beginning, like the graveyard facade. And then I actually did notice the like your underground scene. If you when you first enter like the the into the facade, if you look up, you can see your grave and like it's dripping water. That was pretty cool.
01:14:32
Speaker
And then after that, it just kind of falls That's where i got wet then? Yes. Yes. That's when. Okay. I think the wetness, like the dripping is to try to get you to look up and see like the neat little effect that they feel where you're underground. um But maybe not everybody's catching that.
01:14:47
Speaker
didn um Didn't help me. I just turned around and looked at Tyler like, why did I just get a giant drop of water? Yeah. Yeah. um Because then, yeah, after that, you're just like, what is happening? You get a whole bunch of the same monster in like ah a ground looking area and then there's green and glowing things. And then you're in this like ah staircase land and then there's an ice looking demon and you're like, what's happening?
01:15:10
Speaker
Yes, I would love to know about the green lights. Somebody tell us. Somebody at Universal. What is happening? this With this house, I kind of feel like, and I'll explain my reasoning for the next house as well.
01:15:23
Speaker
because I feel like it's like the opposite of that. So I kind of feel like this house, because of the whole grave theme, probably would have been better in one of the other locations in the back, like in one of the tents or the parade building or whatever, something that's going to be smaller. And like, I don't know, feel tighter. Like, yeah I just feel like the soundstage was too much for this story. I don't think it needed to be there. And you know, spoiler alert, when it comes to fallout, I feel like it's the opposite. I feel like fallout should have been in a soundstage.
01:15:54
Speaker
Like I feel like set wise, they both would have thrived in each other's location. um But yeah, i don't know what this one it just I don't know, there was just a lot of nonsense in this house. Like I really don't know.
01:16:07
Speaker
i feel like it has potential. Maybe throughout the season, it'll get better. But I don't know there just isn't much going on that is all that memorable. Yeah, Tyler.
01:16:20
Speaker
Yeah, you guys pretty much said it all. Everything I'm thinking, I'm like going to say, you guys mention it so um it. I do appreciate the atmosphere of it.
01:16:31
Speaker
It does feel like you're in a damp, underground grave. um But... Like you guys it doesn't make much sense. There's not much of a storyline. But I'm hoping in subsequent runs, it's going to come together come together a little bit more. But we'll see.
01:16:51
Speaker
Yeah. Well, next we have Jason Universe. This one says, the iconic... Oh, I'm sorry. Joey was going to read this. My bad. I'll read it for you. oh The iconic horror villain Jason Voorhees is coming for you.
01:17:06
Speaker
step into his terrifying world from his sinister shack in the woods to the summer camp where it all began. Yeah. This one was my least favorite set design easily. um Yeah. It's very same.
01:17:20
Speaker
Actually more samey than grave of flesh. Drive of flesh doesn't make sense, but, but Jason is very just like samey. However, this is the house that is out to get you ah in the same way that Insidious was.
01:17:34
Speaker
And that's why it's as high as it was for me, just because it was like a relentless onslaught, especially the second half. um They clearly learned some lessons and incorporated that into this, that people loved the way that they got got in Insidious. And they they brought that to this house. And that's why it's so effective is because they're just after to scare you. It's a bunch of Jasons. The set is what it is. And they're trying to scare you.
01:18:00
Speaker
Yeah, i was kind of worried about this one. Even though I did have it high on my hype list just because I was excited to see Jason at the event, I was just worried that there wouldn't be much to it besides just ah bunch of Jasons jumping out at you, and that's exactly what it was.
01:18:15
Speaker
But I don't know. I feel like... I'm very torn when it comes to this house. I have it in the middle because do you think it's better than my lower-ranked houses, but I don't know. This one just...
01:18:29
Speaker
There's something off about it. I just, I feel like it, it was great to see a good house in the Fast and Furious location. That's one, I'll give it that. um But I just feel like there, all I remember in this house for the most part is just darkness and Jason jumping out. Like that's all it was the entire time.
01:18:49
Speaker
And there is a very cool, like half, you know, halfway point where you are outside. And that is a pretty cool little, scene to walk through but besides that you're not it doesn't get any more thematic thematic or anything like that doesn't like there's not much going on like i i don't know like i i feel like people have been hyping it up as in as in like it being just as intense as insidious and i could see how the scares like having all of these actors jumping out at you can relate to that but i don't think it's anywhere near that level because I feel like Insidious had so many different costumes in there so many actors so many sets you know that would you know amp up that fear whereas this one like you're just looking out for a random Jason like really tall Jason's jumping at you at different corners like there really wasn't much to it
01:19:42
Speaker
That's all it is. It's just Jason over and over in a cabin. That being said, the second half of this house is when you get lots of actors in it. It is the scariest part of any house this year, in my opinion. it's the Especially when they fog it up.
01:20:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's basically of the Insidious Hallway. They're coming from both directions, over and over, double scares, triple scares. It's really great. That being said, it's just Jason over and over.
01:20:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I don't really have anything to add. I agree. The set was lacking. Seems like they just went to like a Hobby Lobby and bought some freaking leaves on a vine and stuck them up for you to walk through.
01:20:29
Speaker
Like there's some wood and some leaves and that's really all I saw other than Jason. And... Yeah, I get that the end could work, but I feel like the reason it worked in Insidious is because I didn't know that trick.
01:20:44
Speaker
Now I know when I get into that hallway and I walk through Jason's mask, I'm like, okay, they're going to do the curtain thing. And all they have is black curtains and a bunch of Jasons and yeah props for them filling the house with scare actors that are like tall and scary. But like,
01:20:59
Speaker
I don't know when they said it's going to be 10 times insidious. That is so overselling. yeah Like i I don't get scared in there. I've got way more scared in many of the other houses.
01:21:10
Speaker
I think, yeah, because I've only done it once after I do it a second time that it's going to drop for me just because of that, because now I'm not going to be surprised by it anymore. Right. But yeah, I wish we had more to say, but there really wasn't much else to it.
01:21:26
Speaker
Just Jason. Just Jason. If you love Jason, then you'll love it. I went with my cousin and she's a big Jason fan and it was her favorite house of the night. So, I mean, if you are a Jason yeah if you're a jasoncent fan, then it might be your favorite house. But if you're looking for sets and for storylines or anything like that, you're not, you're not going to get much of it here.
01:21:49
Speaker
But, um but
Fallout House Review
01:21:51
Speaker
all right. So next we have, fallout which joey you can take that if he wants i took your first face your fears in post-apocalyptic la escape from the vaults to the wasteland and confront the formidable bounty hunter the ghoul there's no sheltering from this horror see if you can survive the nuclear apocalypse as you're immersed in the hit show fallout kelly yeah what go ahead okay Um, I actually, i think overall, I liked this more than it, like it exceeded my expectations. And I think, like I had heard some not great things. I saw it was ranked really low for people um that had gone before us. Not that there was, you know, there's only one weekend before, but i wrote down that I was impressed by all the sets, the like sheer amount of like
01:22:43
Speaker
crap they had in there just like was it really felt like immersive um the one part that took me out was like when you're going into the wasteland and it was just like a sheet on the curved wall of like yeah what are you doing literally that's not good that's why needed a soundstage because that could have been amazing but yeah Yes, that really took me out for a second.
01:23:06
Speaker
i felt like the timeline was like a little tough to follow. Like I got all of the different sets, but it's like not chronological per se um So that was a little tough. Yeah.
01:23:19
Speaker
to follow, I said there were a lot of scares, um but not scary. Like a lot of their scares were like Lucy popping out. There were a billion Lucys, which were casted very well. They looked just like her.
01:23:32
Speaker
Like the scares were like her popping out. I wanted to see more of the ghoul. I wanted to see more of the characters and they just weren't really there to tell the story. Yeah. The lack of ghouls was wild to me. I had, yeah I was so surprised by that.
01:23:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's really all I have to say. i feel like if I got a really good run with good scares, it could potentially move up. I don't see it moving up a ton, though, just because, like, there are just better houses. I don't think this is a bad house. I think it's getting a little bit of a bad rap, but, like, yeah ae i don't know.
01:24:05
Speaker
it just It is what it is. The sets are really impressive. If if you're into Fallout, I'm sure you'll like it. There's a lot of cool things to see.
01:24:13
Speaker
That's it. So I've actually read the opposite. I've heard the people that are really into Fallout hate it the most because it just doesn't do justice to the IP.
01:24:25
Speaker
And I think for me, that actually helps because I don't know the IP at all. So I had it just sort of a perfect middle of the road house. The scares were decent. and The set was decent.
01:24:38
Speaker
I can't say too much more than that. For people to say it's easily the worst house of the year. I don't and don't see that at all. um But yeah, it is interesting to me what I was reading. I think it was on Reddit where people that love Fallout just did not like this house whatsoever.
01:24:57
Speaker
I could see that if they were looking for the Five Nights type experience where it's like replicas because it was a little bit different and pulled straight from the screen. Right. Yeah. and And honestly, like, I mean, besides Five Nights, and like I said, I think it's more because I thought Five Nights was more of a movie set than a haunted house.
01:25:18
Speaker
Like, I don't think that Fallout was a bad house. I do have it low. I have it at number nine, but i don't think it's a bad house. I don't think any of the houses are bad, honestly, this year. i think it's a pretty solid year.
01:25:29
Speaker
um i just think that with Fallout... I don't know. i feel like it it really depends on on your own experience going into that house. Because I did go in on my second night. I went with a group of people that had not watched the show.
01:25:42
Speaker
And I was the one appreciating it. And they were like, we have no idea what's going on. They were like, this is ridiculous. This is kind of stupid. We don't know what's happening. So I don't know. I think it just depends on how many scares you get or if you can understand what's going on.
01:25:58
Speaker
Because like Kelly was saying, it's the way that they have it set up in this house is kind of confusing, like the storyline. wanted a little bit more time in the vault. Yeah. I feel like we jumped straight into the wasteland like shortly after. And I was very excited because one of the things that I said earlier on when we were going over speculation maps was that with Fallout coming to HHN, my biggest, like the one thing I was looking forward to the most was that big fight scene at the beginning the wedding.
01:26:27
Speaker
at the wedding And we like had one guy jump out. Yes, that guy. And that was it. Like, that was all we got out of the the big fight. Like, I don't know what happened there.
01:26:39
Speaker
You know what I was pleasantly surprised that we did get, though, is the music. Yeah. I was happy with that. I was happy with that. But, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like they...
01:26:50
Speaker
It was interesting. I feel like it was a lack of space. It was that issue. i don't know. I feel like this belonged in a soundstage. Maybe it was supposed to be in a soundstage, but I don't know. I just feel like it should have been. The sets alone and the story alone could have, like, it it would have been, like, elevated in the soundstage.
01:27:07
Speaker
It did feel like they used more space in that tent than the houses last year did. Yeah. Like last year they felt a little bit short goblins and monsters. yeah it felt like it didn't maybe utilize all the space, but this felt like it did. It did feel like ah like long enough. Yeah.
01:27:23
Speaker
Yeah. For sure.
Galkin Monsters House Experience
01:27:25
Speaker
right. But moving on to the next house, right next door, we have Galkin monsters of the North. In a remote northern village, a wicked being rises from the dead, bringing a horde of monsters and demons from the fjords to wreak havoc on the townspeople.
01:27:42
Speaker
You'll face icy, horned, winged, and wolfish fiends that gradually merge into one giant horror. Then you'll try to escape the belly of the beast. This house, it's it's a little bit hard to put my finger on it, I feel like.
01:27:58
Speaker
I know that I enjoy it. I love the atmosphere of it. It's basically Wicker Man the house, for those familiar with the ride at Alton Towers. um Complete with basically a Wicker Man about three quarters of the way through the house.
01:28:13
Speaker
Yeah. It was so funny. I turned around and looked at Tom when we got to that room and he goes, look, it's Wicker Man. We said the same thing. it's just I feel like I'm not remembering a lot of the detail and a lot of the scares, but I know I enjoy it.
01:28:33
Speaker
If that makes sense at all. Totally. I felt like that initially. Like, remember when we were talking about the houses after our the first night and I was like, I just don't really remember Gulkin. Right.
01:28:43
Speaker
It was kind of forgettable. Mm hmm. My opinion has since changed, but you keep going. I'll save it. That's pretty much what I have. That's it. Yeah. So why did it change Kelly?
01:28:56
Speaker
Okay. I got completely effed up in this house and I never get scared. I got a triple scare somewhere in like the middle of the house and I almost fell over.
01:29:13
Speaker
I don't even remember what happened. i don't even remember. I know it was like, the monsters. It was like one after the next, but I don't remember it being there previously. i was just like, wow, this elevated. And I rank so heavily on scares. This elevated the experience.
01:29:29
Speaker
And then also I feel like the ending on this house is actually better than Jason, where you go into the belly of the beast and there's like multiple scare actors in there. I'm like, first of all, visually this looks cool AF and you can get wrecked in there.
01:29:43
Speaker
So I really love that. aye I am a little bit surprised that this wasn't like the cold wintry house that we kind of thought it was going to be. That's what I wanted. Yeah. any No, ah no, no. I think it was just because like the spec maps had the snowflakes. Like it was never go touted by universal to be a winter house. It's just Nordic and Northern village.
01:30:06
Speaker
i think like the first three quarters can feel a little bit samey. It's like when you get to Wicker Man and then the belly of the beast are the memorable parts. The rest is kind of just like, oh, you're going through this like village.
01:30:19
Speaker
I did start to notice on my last night, there are a lot more of the details in the houses. And that just goes to show like typically I only go to HHN one or two nights. And this year, obviously I got a ah frequent fear pass. So I'm going more.
01:30:31
Speaker
And I'm so glad because I really feel like I haven't been missing out on like all of these little details that I start to notice on like subsequent runs. So um let me see. Super strong ending scares monsters. Yeah.
01:30:44
Speaker
Yeah. I think I hit everything. The run that I had pa on Saturday night was immaculate. Like I have been thinking about this house nonstop. I cannot wait to go back. I'm scared to go back because I don't ah can replicate that ever again. Yeah.
01:30:59
Speaker
But Tom was like, he was right behind me and he didn't really get the scares because I got them. And he was like laughing because I never get got like that. Like he was like, oh my God, they like got her. And it was great.
01:31:11
Speaker
I loved it. Yeah. I mean, I agree with everything. I mean, it was, it was very fun. It's a very fun house. um i I think I hadn't, i don't I didn't know what I was getting myself into with this house, honestly, like going into it, like everything did.
01:31:27
Speaker
The whole Wickerman thing, I was not expecting any of that. So I think i this was the most confused I was going into a house. But yeah, their scares are good, though. like And like you said, I feel like that's the ending is what Jason should have been, I guess. like Because you get the best of both worlds with the actors being intense, but you also have a pretty sick like set design going on in the end there.
01:31:51
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I mean, I feel like this is going a sleeper hit, honestly. was just going to say, if people get a good run in there, they're going to love it. And apparently people are raving about it already. Like it has been having some pretty long waits as of recent. Yeah, I've definitely seen the positive reviews on this one start to come in.
01:32:08
Speaker
Um, I, I definitely need another run in this. I think my expectations on what it was going to be were set somewhere, not quite where it is. And getting to like go and do it again, knowing kind of what to expect will make it better. And then also, I just didn't get a very good run in this with the scares.
01:32:26
Speaker
So that's why it was lower for me. But I definitely see the potential for it. I think it does have nice set design and nice um detailed elements. And yeah, that ending is is super cool. And I haven't really seen something like that before.
01:32:38
Speaker
um So it was nice.
01:32:41
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like this, you definitely do need the second, you know, visit because it's, for me, it went up a lot, actually. I think I had it closer to the bottom when I first went in.
01:32:53
Speaker
And then after that second run through, I was like, okay, this is a very good house. Like, I i really enjoyed it. um So with that being said, I mean, like we said it earlier, but you don't need Express to do this.
01:33:06
Speaker
Like, it's very, it actually kind of works out better when you pay for additional nights and And that way you can see some of these details that you didn't see before. Because even though we had a pretty crappy run the first time around, the second time around ended up being so much better. So it's definitely worth checking out some of these houses multiple times.
01:33:24
Speaker
This one jumped the most for me in any direction from my first run to my last, for sure. Yeah. But yeah, very, very solid house.
Dolls House Critique
01:33:34
Speaker
But moving on to Dolls Let's Play Dead.
01:33:40
Speaker
Dolls. You're about to become a doll sized and witness the unnatural creations of a twisted little girl. You'll be hunted by burnt fashion dolls, toys she's melded together and undead horrors in her dollhouse.
01:33:52
Speaker
Meh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. had this low on my hype list for reason. You're right. I had it high on my hype list. I was really excited to see what they would do with shrinking us down.
01:34:05
Speaker
I feel like Toy Story Midway Mania's cue does it better. I feel like this house, there were some cool things that were enlarged, but it made the space feel so...
01:34:19
Speaker
spacious that like it felt empty to me. Like you walk into a room and it's like everything's big and there's like one random scare actor with a baby head on it. It's just different than I expected. It smelled terrible. People are saying like a plasticky smell.
01:34:36
Speaker
It's like a burning plastic smell. ah I hate it so much. There are apparently multiple Guest activated triggers. And I found one my last run because Tyler told me where they were. And I rang the doorbell and it was ding dong and a light went off, but I didn't see any others.
01:34:53
Speaker
but I felt like there were no scares that got me. I feel like there were really light on the amount of actors and they all look the same. Like I wanted to see some nasty shit in this house, like some level shit.
01:35:09
Speaker
And it just wasn't, it just let me down in like every way. I hope it gets better because there are people out there that are ranking ranking this house extremely highly. But I said, the only pro is the scale.
01:35:23
Speaker
The cons are hard to find gaps, missed lots of details. Everything looks similar and it smells terrible.
01:35:33
Speaker
Yeah, this did move up for me a little bit. It went from from nine to seven. So now it didn't move up too much, but I think it was just the scares that I got my second time um that I was able to get more because I think the first time that we did it, it did feel empty.
01:35:50
Speaker
It did feel like maybe there was a cast change going on. There were a couple of like empty like areas throughout the house. um So the second time around I did get more scares. So for that reason it went up because I feel like there's a little bit more of a story compared it to grave of flesh. And then, you know, we already heard my thoughts on fallout and FNAF, but, but yeah, it's, I, I knew it was going to be very lackluster. I just, I had a feeling, but I don't know.
01:36:16
Speaker
I, I don't really see it going up all that much. It might actually go down by the time I go back.
01:36:23
Speaker
I think my biggest problem was the scare actors didn't really seem to be hiding much. You kind of just go into this open room and they're sort of just standing there.
01:36:34
Speaker
Yeah, you kind of see them and it's like as if they're trying to hide, but they don't. There's no rules. Yeah, like do you guys like just, do you guys, does the costume not fit where you're supposed to go? Like they're kind of just like hanging out there and it was just kind of awkward.
01:36:47
Speaker
And i I think my expectations were a little off too. I was expecting something more like a mix between Annabelle and Megan or something like that. But this was just, yeah, this was just, I don't know, Toy Story gone wrong or something. Like it didn't seem like dolls to me. It should have been called Toys.
01:37:12
Speaker
I feel like this is like the um the Goblin Feast house for this year because that had a very huge following last year and it just didn't do much for me when I did it last year. This is kind of giving me the same vibe.
01:37:24
Speaker
i feel like I like love Goblins though. Disagree. I liked Goblins so much. Really? i didn't like Goblins. That's what this house is missing to me because we do the only other place that we have camp at HHN this year is Terrifier and Goblins kind of had that.
01:37:40
Speaker
And I feel like they this house needs more of that because of the direction they went into the camp. Yeah. It should have leaned more into that because it, it what it is right now is it's trying to be scary and it's not at all, at least for me. Yeah. um And I think if they leaned into the silliness of it, maybe it would work a little better. I'm not sure.
01:38:01
Speaker
um But yeah, but I was expecting the silliness too. ah Right. Yeah. I kind of was like, if there's one that's going to be a little goofy, it might be this one, but it it didn't seem like that's what they were trying to do with it. It seems like they were trying to go more demented direction, but I don't Yeah. It just, it wasn't quite what I expected and pretty much everything, what everybody said, like some scenes were just kind of empty feeling and it didn't really scare me at all. So, but that could change in a subsequent run, I guess we'll see.
01:38:31
Speaker
Yeah. yeah, but Now moving on to most of our number ones, but you're number two or three, right, Joey? i Three, yeah. Three, okay, yeah. So a high house here. We have hatchet and chains, demon bounty hunters.
01:38:46
Speaker
In this old west town, all hell is breaking loose. Red hot lava demons are trying to possess everyone, melting everything in their path. um This was a really, really good house. um This is, like from an an original perspective, a really strong
Hatchet and Chains House Praise
01:39:03
Speaker
concept. I was very unsure about this going in. I can't remember where I put it on my hype list, but I think it was kind of lower, or mid to lower, um just because the scene in Slaughter Cinema last year was just...
01:39:16
Speaker
Kind of lackluster and not really memorable. But um this house, first of all, the outdoor um facade is very nice. um It's the best of any of the tents easily.
01:39:29
Speaker
And the house is full of fun details. um Loved the train. Yeah. I love the undead horses. There was a very unique scare that that kind of caught me off guard, um like with a hand coming through a dummy's mouth. um yeah That was awesome.
01:39:48
Speaker
ah And also the Western vibe was, you know, very there. And that was kind of a fun, different feel to a house. And I felt like there were lots of actors. There was storytelling because you got to see like both hatchet and chains in there doing different things. And yeah, it was it was really a fun time. And I'm looking forward to run this again, because I think I'll like it even more the second time.
01:40:11
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think I did not expect for this to be as good as it was. i had this in the middle um because I did have like positive like I did feel like it was going to be good.
01:40:22
Speaker
Um, but I wasn't sure also, I know, I think you guys were fans of Yeti, right? Like whenever that, love it yeah. See for me, like I never had the best like run throughs in that house. So and for me, I was kind of like expecting to feel the same way about that since that came from like slaughter cinema as well.
01:40:42
Speaker
Um, but no, I, I, I had a feeling that with this theme, they were going to kill it, but i didn't expect the actors to be as intense as they were. Like I feel like they were like, they were doing their thing. Like they were really intense in there.
01:40:57
Speaker
um Definitely got the most scares there both times I went through and um and yeah, I don't know. I feel like there were some really cool effects. Like you said, the train projector thing or whatever, that was pretty cool.
01:41:10
Speaker
um That one scare you mentioned with the hand through the mouth, that was very, that was something I hadn't seen any of their houses yet. So that was great. But I feel like this is like the the most solid house this year. I don't know. I feel like we're in the minority here.
01:41:25
Speaker
A lot of people are not liking this house and they don't get it Yeah, I don't get it either. This was my number 10 on my hype list and it is my number one.
01:41:37
Speaker
That's absolutely insane. But I just love this house so much to the point where Kelly and I got out of it the first time. And we looked each at each other and we were like, did you have as good of a run as I did? Because we just couldn't believe it because we were not expecting that at all.
01:41:53
Speaker
But just from the outdoor facade, which was incredible. I love an actor outside on the facade. um So the unique scares like we already talked about, you've got, don't know if it's hatchet or chains, but like I'm assuming chains because he's holding the chains like of the demon in the fireplace where it starts on the one scene and then you walk around and then you see the other side of it.
01:42:17
Speaker
I loved that. um I loved the effect of them shooting through the wall basically. And you see the bullet holes lighting up and then there's the little puffs of air just.
01:42:30
Speaker
And then the train part, everything about this house is so good. And I was so surprised by it. Yep, I echo everything you guys said. It was low on my hype list, only above Five Nights.
01:42:44
Speaker
When this was first rumored to be a Western house, I was really into that idea because I i like that theme. But then I was kind of bummed. Like I was kind of like, I don't really, like you said, Joey, remember this from Slaughter Cinema. Like I don't really know the story, like Lava Demons. I don't know about that.
01:43:01
Speaker
And then I was bummed because... The stuff that Universal put out was not in that Western vein. Like, it kept almost going away from that. And so it really didn't sound like it was going to be like this. was just really confused what it was going to be. And I was bummed because my first outfit was themed to Hatch and Chains. I was like, oh, this is going to be a flop. Like, I'm wearing this outfit. I'm wearing these uncomfortable red boots all around. Freaking But i absolutely loved it. Like, I...
01:43:26
Speaker
I was shocked at how good it was from every perspective of what I like about a house. The set was amazing. The tricks were amazing. The scares were amazing. It felt like ah more than any other house that had like a really windy weaving path. Like it wasn't just ever like straight, like you were going in multiple different rooms.
01:43:46
Speaker
Um, The only thing that bothered me and it bothered me only the first night, the smell in the like lava room where you're like walking over top of the lava. I was like, uh, this smells like a smell that I've smelled before. And I'm not going to tell you what it is until we're done recording. Cause it's disgusting, but it reminded me of that. And I was not here for it.
01:44:06
Speaker
And then. The only other thing is like, I feel like the neon faces of some of the demons almost took away from the Western vibe. I'm like, if those were just like brown and black and red, like the lava, I'm thinking like red lava demons, that would have fit the vibe a little bit better. i get how, because it's so dark, like maybe having those colors helps you see the monsters more. But I was like, that's an interesting choice.
01:44:30
Speaker
and yeah But I mean, regardless, I still loved it so much. That lava room was super cool. I remember like looking down at the floor and that helped me get scared because I was looking down and distracted. They get you that way. They want you to be distracted.
01:44:47
Speaker
Yeah. You guys looked at me like right after out of that, that, that, that first run and you guys were like, wait, that, that was our, that was our favorite one. Was that your favorite? I'm like, yes. was like, was so freaking good. Yeah.
01:44:59
Speaker
Well, I thought we were being crazy. I'm like, did we just have like an extraordinarily good run? And then when you guys reacted the way you did, I was like, okay, good. Like I'm not on the ground. but Yeah.
01:45:09
Speaker
I mean, it it doesn't feel like a tent house. No, no. It does, but this does somehow. Yeah. Agreed. So good. So good. And I can't wait to do it again.
01:45:21
Speaker
Same. So freaking good. But.
Strength of Haunted Houses This Year
01:45:25
Speaker
That is all 10 houses. So overall, what are our thoughts on the houses this year? Strong.
01:45:32
Speaker
Yeah, strong year for sure. I think just sound like a hater on some of the houses. I think there's potential. We also have to keep in mind, this is very early in the season and like scare actors are still getting into their roles. I'm sure they'll change some things that aren't working well. Like I think everything will improve.
01:45:48
Speaker
Yeah, a hundred percent. And what I like, what I loved about this year, first off, I think this is the best year that we've had in a while. already just from this early, you know, visit.
01:45:59
Speaker
But, um, what I love about this year, you know, comparing it to to last year, um is that I feel like last year it was a very obvious, there was a very clear winner and that was insidious. And I feel like it was insidious.
01:46:13
Speaker
And then the next best was like, there was like a gap, like a big gap between first and second place with some of these houses. And, um, This year, if like I can understand why people would like certain houses.
01:46:26
Speaker
you know I can see why people would... I mean, well, dolls, I don't know. Or same with Five Nights. But like some of these houses like Terrifier, Galkin, Jason, you know i i could see... Artisa, I could see all these houses being somebody's number one.
01:46:44
Speaker
you know like I feel like everything... It's a pretty stacked season for sure when it comes to the houses. But, but yeah, but moving on to questions.
HHN Navigation Strategy
01:46:54
Speaker
and We have a couple of questions here. um Metal Mike wants to know what would be the best strategy for doing HHN for one night? Go with Kelly. Okay.
01:47:06
Speaker
So if you're only going one night and you can afford express, obviously that's going to afford you the most flexibility to do what you want, but you can accomplish, like we said, you can accomplish it without express. Okay. You have to get say and scream if you're only going one night though and not getting express. You have to do it. So you either do that by buying an add-on to your ticket, which costs more money,
01:47:25
Speaker
Or if you have a universal pass, you basically just have to have access to universal studios prior to HHN. HHN technically starts at 630, but if you have um scream early, you can go anytime between three and five to get your wristband. And that allows you to pre-cue and cue for...
01:47:46
Speaker
the houses that do open up at different times. So the earliest houses um open up at 515 and that's WWE Terrifier or no, I lie um five nights and fallout. And then Terrifier opens 530.
01:48:00
Speaker
And i think some of the other tents intermittently open at 530 and then the rest of the houses open at six. um So what I would recommend is think about what's most important to you before you go. If it's getting all 10 houses done, you can do it.
01:48:15
Speaker
You just have to be smart. You have to look at things like thrill data. You have to talk to other people who have been. um If that's not the most important thing to you, then do what is the most important. I would say from a house perspective, your rope drop plan needs to either be terrifier or five nights. They get the longest lines and they hold the longest lines throughout the entirety of the event.
01:48:38
Speaker
If you get there before the pre-cue, so you'll notice there's two areas to access the the soundstage houses this year. If you see that there's not a lot of people at those, your move is to do five nights. You get in that line, you wait until they let you back to the queues and you get in line and you sit there. It's inside, it's air conditioned, it's in a soundstage and you do five nights first.
01:49:01
Speaker
If you see that there's a lot of people there already, or if you just don't care about five nights, then you pre-queue Terrifier and you wait until it opens at 5.30. That is an outdoor queue. If you're able to get food and beverage, it's nice to take that in there.
01:49:13
Speaker
They don't open the food and beverage right at three. It's probably closer to like 3.45 that those are open, unfortunately. um After you do your first house, if um it if you do five nights,
01:49:27
Speaker
And w WWE has a short line. You can hop right in there. They're right next to each other and get that one done. If you do Terrifier first, because it opens 530, you're going to move on and exit the soundstage area.
01:49:40
Speaker
You are going to go to another soundstage house, though. if it is before 6 p.m., you can get in line for El Artista, which opens at 6 and effectively rope drop that house as well. Then the goal becomes to get to Jason before 630 when the masses of people run to Jason and get in line at Fast and Furious, which is notoriously a terrible cue.
01:50:00
Speaker
Did not have a bad experience this year, thank God, because we did played that way every night. So after you get through Jason, you'll look what time it is. um Generally, you'll want to head towards the tents.
01:50:13
Speaker
So you can do the two far tents, Galkin and Fallout first. um As far as which one to do, i would just kind of gauge how long the line is. You can see it there right in front of you. We did kind of figure out that if there are two lines right next to each other,
01:50:30
Speaker
And they're like one's a teeny bit longer than the other, like posted time. It might actually benefit you to go in that one because more people are probably going in the one that is posted less time.
01:50:40
Speaker
So you can kind of do it opposite reverse psychology situation there. And then you can move through the tent houses, which goes to dolls and then to hatchet and chains. If you have not done five nights at Freddy's, keep an eye on the wait times for that between 8 and 8.30 p.m. because it drops every single night. And the line, actual wait is less than posted in pretty much every single line all night. So go ahead and check that out if it's important to you. If not, you can save it for the end of the night and see if you have energy left for it.
01:51:11
Speaker
um And then whatever else you have left, if you didn't do WWE, wwe you do that at the end. Most likely you'll have Grave of Flesh left. That shouldn't have too long of line. You can do that. um If Nightmare Fuel is important to you, which I do recommend trying to do it if you can, it's really fun show. The showtimes are 8, 9.30, 11, and 12.30. The 9.30 show is definitely the most busy, and I would say you have to get in queue for the show about 30 minutes before, at minimum, the showtime. They will start to like load the arena like 15 minutes prior to show.
01:51:45
Speaker
Um, Haunt-a-phonic. I didn't really watch other than from afar, so I can't comment on doing that. That's a lagoon show. And that is on at nine, 10, 11, and 12. Um, try to walk through all of the scare zones if you can, when it's dark out and the street experiences, it's definitely a lot more of an elevated experience. Then if the rides mean anything to you, there's basically no queue for any of them. So you can get, throw those in if you want to,
01:52:11
Speaker
Not important for me when I go. So I usually don't ride any of the rides unless, you know, we have free time or if you're wanting to do something right when you get there, you can kind of do that before you pre-queue.
Future Events Preview
01:52:23
Speaker
But I think overall that plan generally is what I used all of the nights that we went and it seemed to work out and I will continue to do it unless Thrill Data tells me differently.
01:52:34
Speaker
If you'd like this written up, I can do it. You might have to for some people just get a standard text and you can send it over and over again to different people. Yeah, I will comment on the 1230 nightmare fuel that I i think it was 1210 or something. And I was all the way over at what did we just get out of five nights?
01:52:55
Speaker
And I was like, I really don't think I'm going to make it in because of how it usually goes over there. But I basically power walked across the park and got in at like 1220 or something like that.
01:53:08
Speaker
And it was completely fine. And there were still open seats when the show started. So if you're not looking to like queue for that, that's not a bad time to do it. And then after the show ends, it's one a it's yeah, one a.m. And you can kind of book it to houses that you either if you've already finished them all, you can repeat some or you can go to like some of the longer queues like Terrifier or ah Five Nights and hope that there's a shorter queue at that time that late.
01:53:36
Speaker
All right. um So C. Pred wants to know, now that HHN is here, outside of some local haunts, what's next for thrills, chills, and spills?
01:53:48
Speaker
More HHN, baby. It goes to Halloween. Yep.
01:53:54
Speaker
but we hear what we're doing We have some tentative Christmas plans already in the works. Oh, yeah. We cover all seasonal events. So we'll do some Christmas, some Mardi Gras, some, I don't know, maybe food and wine, something like that.
01:54:13
Speaker
Yeah, but there's plenty of stuff to come. Yeah. And then it'll be spec season all over again. ah Spec season starts November. Yeah, but like like the the heavy stuff comes in later. that's I know. But all right.
Favorite HHN Details
01:54:32
Speaker
um And then Sho wants to know, what is your favorite little detail from HHN this year?
01:54:38
Speaker
Good question. Yeah. I think the most impressive detail for me was the train and hatchet and chains on that screen. I was like, damn, there that's a cool trick that they haven't done.
01:54:52
Speaker
That was, I was thinking about that scare with the hand coming through. Yeah. I liked that a lot. Yeah, I think for me, it's like the, just like the comedic tones with Art the Clown.
01:55:07
Speaker
I think it's that. I think it's, it's fun. um Even though like I said what I said about you know, him roaming around the parks. Like it's still fun to see some of those videos that we have seen of art, you know, being silly around the park. So I think that's the little detail that i i do like.
01:55:24
Speaker
I don't know if it's really a detail, but I enjoy club horror. I think it's a great addition to the atmosphere and we'll talk about all the shows next episode, but um it's way better than just walking through a dead pathway.
01:55:39
Speaker
Yeah. Or a half-assed scare zone. Yeah. With a bunch of photo ops.
01:55:47
Speaker
Yeah.
Suggestions for Improvements
01:55:49
Speaker
All right. And then ethan would like to know if you could improve something about one HHN house that would make the entire event better, what would that be? Make Five Nines scary so it's worth the wait.
01:56:03
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like my change would be two changes. Swap, Fallout, and Grave of Flesh. Yeah. Which locations? that For me, that would make a huge difference, at least but when it comes to the quality of those houses.
01:56:18
Speaker
I think we we already talked about it they Dolls needs to lean more campy. In terms of making the entire event better, i can't really think of anything to change this year. But I know I mentioned this in previous episodes, and they've improved a lot on it this year and last year. But just making the queues better.
01:56:38
Speaker
They used to be some of the indoor soundstage cues were just lights on nothing going on, and it just absolutely killed the vibe. Now every soundstage has at least the lights off. There's normally something playing on the projector.
01:56:55
Speaker
It keeps the atmosphere line for me. So I'm glad they made that improvement in the last two years, i would say. Yeah. Agreed.
Episode Conclusion
01:57:08
Speaker
All right. I just noticed that was the last question. We do have more questions. Of course, I know we know that some of you guys have asked questions as well, but that fits more towards what we're going to talk about next time. So obviously we will continue that later.
01:57:21
Speaker
um But yeah, any final thoughts before we say goodnight guys?
01:57:27
Speaker
Stay tuned. We've got scare zones, shows. What else are we doing? The whole event, our impressions. Yeah. yeah Food and beverage. Food and beverage, yeah.
01:57:40
Speaker
Lots to talk about next episode still about the event. Yeah. Yes. And of course, if you haven't already, make sure you follow us Facebook. Instagram at thrills, chills, and spills. And of course, Twitter slash X T underscore S wait, T underscore C underscore S pod.
01:58:03
Speaker
I don't know. that's smart Yep. That's it. um Make sure you follow us there. um And of course, thank you for listening. And we'll be back with more HHN stuff next time.
01:58:14
Speaker
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