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Rebecca Rogan: Make it your every day thought!
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My guest this week is Actress Rebecca Rogan!
We discuss Rebecca’s introduction to Performing Arts at a young age, being taught ‘The business side’ at University and her interest in musical theatre.
We also discuss What Makes You Tick Favourites A Malevolent World and The Actor’s Forge as well as the Bring Back the 90’s showcase she appeared in with Fem 93.
Then finally there’s Disney talk including Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King and horrible, terrible live action remakes (My opinion, not necessarily reflected by Rebecca)!
Show Art is by Craig Pearson.
Theme Music is 'Silent Movie 91' by Sascha Ende.
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Transcript
Introduction to 'What Makes You Tick'
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Speaker
Hello and welcome to What Makes You Tick, a conversation podcast where I, Ryan Watson, speak to actors, writers, filmmakers, and a range of other artists in the northeast of England and sometimes beyond about they do, how they make it work, and the media that inspires them to do that work.
Introducing Rebecca Rogan
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Speaker
Today on the show, I have with me Rebecca Rogan.
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Rebecca is an actress whose spotlight page lists credits going all the way back to 2015. She's appeared in short films such as Once a Day, The Decision, History, and The Delivery. And more recently, she's appeared in the often-mentioned Productions film, A Malevolent World, as Amy, as well as the Actors Forge Showcase in 2024 and 2025.
Rebecca's Journey into Acting
00:00:43
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And Fem93's recent-ish Bring Back the 90s Actors Showcase. I say recent-ish because it was like... May or something? they were i feel like this smith it's not as recent as it as it as it seems in my head.
00:00:57
Speaker
yeah But yes, Rebecca, welcome to the show. Thank you for coming on. Hello, you're welcome. Thank you for having me. I always start with, have I missed anything? Is there anything important that I've missed um in your description? No, I don't think so. All good. I wanted to have you on the show because when we were all filming A Malephant World back in or in July i think it was July yeah um I were about to start doing my my podcast then and I kind of just ended asking everyone I were like will you be on my podcast will you be on my podcast but I thought it'd be good to talk to you because a lot of the people were people that I just kind of got on the actors ford with and i always see them and and
Acting Classes and Self-Representation
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you know I've met you ah I've met you a few times but like it was sort of nice to branch out a little bit
00:01:39
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yeah no worries um so i guess to start with um what's what's your background because uh i mentioned before we started recording i was looking through a spotlight page and it seems to go like way back yeah so uh i started the well when i was little did you know like amateur dramatics and little community theater here and there and then you know did bits in school like school plays the whole shebang like um and then yeah then just loved it and did little plays and then I did um yeah just went went uh to university um and studied performing arts and in the in the midst of that i was um auditioning I had agents I didn't have agents um and yeah i was just working as you know an unemployed little actor uh Since I was probably 16 onwards. Yeah, so a long time ago. And yeah, done like, got experience with short films and was extra in a feature film and then did Vera.
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But my part got cut. Oh, no, really? I know, not sour about it at all. um And yeah, then obviously just auditioned and and auditioned for years and
Balancing University and Acting Career
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years. And, you know, you know, the industry you get, you know, lots of rejection, but it's just pursuing. And yeah, then from there, it was only um I started at the Forge November 23. So, yeah, two years ago now.
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Really? And just being there and yeah, just continuing audition. But yes, I've been, let's say, professionally acting since probably 16. Wow. So it's like, it's pretty much been just a part yeah your life ah or at least like adult life. life yeah ah Wow. how ah How were it going to something like the Actors Forge? Because I guess when I've been, it's a lot of people, it's like the first time they've ever done anything like that. Were that sort of ah a strange experience or...? Yeah, it was, I'd want to acting classes for years and I just didn't have the the confidence. and I think it's it's quite intimidating going in a room full of a big group of people um who you don't know at all. Yeah, so it was after COVID.
00:03:49
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happened and you know the dreaded lockdowns and when we had a lot of time in my heads and I just thought you know what once we're out of this I'm gonna research acting classes and I went to a few different ones and then I ended up finding the forge and I just thought I'm just gonna do it but i I started at a weird time because I started halfway through a term or I think there was two weeks left of a term so I'd already I walked into class and those people had already been together for four weeks and known each other yeah So it was quite intimidating. I walked in, I think they were just like, oh, where's this girl come from? It's like, hi. Yeah. And it was, it was intimidating. and But then I just clicked with the bunch of people I was, I was with. And and it it was scary because I had to perform monologues and it was Lynn actually teaching the class.
00:04:37
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okay knock down and so yeah for monologue in front of this class of strangers who I never met before but I loved but since once that one class is out the way I think you get confidence so yeah I was okay after that so I'm quite curious about the um the confidence thing because obviously you did a lot of performing at university and those sort of film credits before the the actors forge like I know it's not as simple as this but you know as someone who was relatively new to I was like well if people have done it before they're just confident and never worry about anything so
Passion for Acting Despite Full-Time Work
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ah had you sort of been away from it for a little while or
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Yeah, I think it was because during COVID, obviously, um you know, you weren't really filming anything. and i was trying to do bits online, like little classes, and obviously auditions were kind of coming through, but then not really because, you know, production wasn't there. So I think I kind of had like about, it was probably a solid year off from it, really, and and when you add it all up. So I think having that gap kind of lowered, yeah, my confidence a bit. And obviously you've got a lot of time in your head as well, so... was kind of a little bit at a low point then ah during COVID because I was thinking, oh, do I go back to it? And yeah, so I think when I first stepped into the forge, I'd been out of it for just over a year. And I was thinking, oh, don't know if I've got, I'm good at this anymore. So I just, but honest, but like literally I was only felt like that for the first lesson I would say. And then after I'd done that, I was back in the swing of it and I had my confidence back. So it was just really getting through that one class, I think. you know i always just find it like important to just just kind of know that people who have been doing it forever or whatever sometimes feel like less confident and stuff. Because I think with me, confidence has always seemed like a thing where it's like, I have to get over it so I can be like the confident people.
00:06:26
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But the more you kind of go on, the more you realize there's no one's like the confident people and everyone has these little ups and downs with it. definitely yeah definitely so you went to university were you doing things outside a university at the time or were it sort after uni you sort of moved into doing it yeah it was during as well um whenever i had whenever i wasn't like i had a part-time jobs whenever i wasn't working and that's when around the time i did those short films what you spoke about before like once a day delivery. I i met people through uni. So I was doing bits through uni, but then ah ah after I finished, and that's when I got back fully into the swing of it again. and Because if you've been to university, it's quite full on and especially performing arts because you ah you do uni-end-of-year shows and you're building up towards that. and So you haven't got too much time, but I was still trying to do little short films and stuff and auditioning. here and there between uni and after you'd mentioned like having agents and not having agents is that like is that something that were built into into university like to sort of try and find those things
Advice for Aspiring Actors
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yeah for sure we did um can't remember what the class was called but it was a really handy class to have because it was based on the business side of it so it was all about you know
00:07:39
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building your profile. i think it was just maybe called business development in the arts and stuff. That's how I got on Spotlight because at the time when you were uni, you got credits because of that. So that's how I originally got on Spotlight was because I was at uni. And yeah, they would have a class. I think we just had it for maybe one term, but it would the teacher would help you, you know, and discuss how to build like a social media presence or your profile or and they would discuss agents and how it's good to have an agent and how you know to go to casting director the workshop so it was giving you the tools to not just build your craft but build the business side of it up as well so they did yeah they did always suggest having an agent whether that's a local agent or
00:08:21
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you know, a bigger agent, and you know, in the major cities. But then there's been times where I haven't had agents and not through fault of my own, through different things. Unfortunately, that happens. So I've been on both sides. I've had representation and I haven't.
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And there's pros and cons to both, I think. You've got a bit more freedom when you're self-represented, but then it's, you might not get put forward for certain things because you're not self-represented. So there's, yeah, it's pros and cons to both. You have like proper experience of of trying to self-represent yourself as well.
00:08:49
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Yeah, yeah. how I didn't even know that were, like, obviously, like, when I apply for the things, it's whatever Dan emails out. But yeah I imagine what you're talking about with self-representing is somewhat a bit more professional than that. what what what is What is that? I didn't even know where I think. Yeah, so it can be, you know, you you send, um you know, you can send casting directors your own, you know, spotlight. You can send them, you can do, like, a covering letter and most the time. You do write. It's best to have, like, your own covering letter.
00:09:17
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it looks a bit more professional and you would just, you know, you can get templates online. I think ah when I first started out and I was self-represented, I would go on to, you know, Google temp. I mean, now we've got AI and everything now. I'm not saying use AI all the time, but i'm just saying you can get like a template of it. But yeah, yeah. And you would just reach out basically yourself and say, you know, I'm i'm a young actress. I'm a,
00:09:37
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I'm this age I've got this experience here's my headshot CV and yeah you would just contact them directly yourself and sometimes they wouldn't get back to you but then sometimes they would and they would say well we can we'll put you on your books um on our books for you know this role so sometimes it works in your favor but then sometimes it doesn't so it's just trying out is there a sort of notable difference between between self-representing
Experiences at Actors Forge
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and having an agent Yeah, I would say so. I think you're taken most seriously, definitely, when you've got an agent. And obviously, it's it's easier to get...
00:10:12
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auditions as well because when you're self-represented it's just yeah I would just say you're taken yeah the main thing is you're taken most seriously and also your agent a lot of the time has contacts as well with casting directors where you don't have those relationships and you know some of the bigger casting directors you know they might not necessarily reply back to the actor on their own but they might have like a relationship already with with a bunch of agents so you Yeah, I would say it's it's definitely different, but there's pros and cons to both. And I know a few actors who are just self-represented and have been for a few years. It depends what work you want to do as well. You know, if you want to do student films or short films, it's just as fine to be self-represented. It depends what work you want to do as well, I think. So I definitely think there's a difference, but it's just taste, I think, as well. It's up to yourself you what you want to do. Sorry, it's just become asking you all sorts of questions, right? It's okay.
00:11:01
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ah um But ah you mentioned, so do you have like multiple agents? You you mentioned having agents in major cities and things.
Improvisation and Showcases
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I have before. I had one who was, I think this was just before COVID. So I'm talking like, I think it was 20, must be in 2019. I had, an agent in Manchester who I got from I used to go to acting classes down in Manchester believe it not so I used to actually like trek from Newcastle to Manchester nearly every weekend oh I was gonna ask about the Manchester thing and I i thought you might have lived there for bit or something it was because my sister like she went to university in Manchester and then she moved down there and she's been there ever since so I would use opportunity to go and see her and then go to acting classes And so, yeah, I got a Manchester agent off the back of going to acting classes there. And then at the same time, they said they had a northeast office. So I had an agent up here as well. So I had two the same time.
00:11:55
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it's It was handy because you would go to jobs in Manchester and then have some representation up here as well. So it was good. But only certain... It's not many agents do that now, I think. know big, big agents do it. and They always have, like, UK and then US agents. and But I don't know if it's less common now for people to have, like, a Manchester one, for example, and then one up here um at the same time. But, yeah, it was was good to have both, I suppose. lot of communication, though. You have to be on it with the communication. Yeah. Were there any sort of difference in sort of approach from the agent or like the relationship with the agent based on whether they were closer all further away? No, I think I was really lucky with mine. I don't know if it was because it was Manchester, maybe not London, maybe. It's still the north, isn't it? So I think, no, I was really lucky. They communicated with one another. I was constantly like,
00:12:40
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I didn't the same email and stuff like that. So yeah, I think the relationship was fine, but I don't know if that would have been different if it was like a London agent, for example, like a Northeast agent. I don't know if that would have been different, but I think because it was maybe Manchester, it was, yeah, very good. I guess um to to move on a little bit from agents, I feel like I've just made my source of knowledge for agents. So, because you've been, at least as far as I can tell, you've been sort of pretty consistently involved in acting sort of since university. but have Have you sort of been doing like part-time jobs alongside that? Like, because I did script writing at uni and there definitely came a point where it got completely crushed out of me. Yeah. And I'm like, sort of, is there something that
Confidence and Overcoming Nerves
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sort of helped keep you kind of motivated to to keep doing this stuff alongside work? Yeah, I think, I mean, I've always had a job, so I've always had part-time jobs. And now, obviously, I've got a full-time job, which is, it's still flexible. So that's good. Not motivation as such. I think it's just because I've been doing it for so long. I've just always had it in...
00:13:39
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the back of my mind that I'm just doing like looking for stuff every day like auditions or and I know now like I've got the forge as well so I've got the forge obviously yourself you go every week so you've got that consistency as well so I just I think it's just off years off doing it it's just can never not imagine myself not doing it to some degree even when I get older and have kids and whatnot like I can always see myself doing it there's some capacity whether that's like an extra or being in a short film or even if I get you know big big feature film you know what I mean I think it's because I've been doing it for so long it's just I just see it as my everyday like everyday thought you know what I mean it's just yeah I had loads of job interviews recently not like acting or creative related and it came up doing
Balancing Personal Life and Acting
00:14:20
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this podcast um and acting came up and they were like so that like a hobby or is it something you professionally and I was sort of like it's kind of in between like like i don't exactly see myself as professional but I
00:14:31
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it feels a bit like downplaying things to call it a hobby a bit yes yeah yeah it's individual yeah but no that's like really really interesting because like like I say um it's something that definitely for a few years around around COVID until quite recently it was just I would just like I'm just gonna work my nine-to-five job and and not bother with any ah any of this stuff um anymore yeah it's quite nice to see that it's always just been there and that you intend for it to all always be a part things yeah definitely Do you think someone will offer you a giant acting role and you'll you'll fully just be like, no, I'm only doing that now?
00:15:07
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No, i I would. Don't get us wrong. Obviously, I would love that and definitely do that. But, you know, this day and age, you can't afford to not work. So we need to pay the bills somehow. But yeah, oh, yeah, 100%. If I got offered a massive acting role tomorrow, I would take it, obviously. And quit my day job, like obviously. think everyone would love to do that. That would be the ultimate of my goal. But... Yeah, I think as long as you're doing it in some capacity, you know, keeps you going, keeps you motivated. Yeah, it's like a fulfillment thing, like, sort of. Yeah. it I would just... um I've spent, like, the last day, two days, editing an episode I did with Rob, Rob Carr. And... Because he's, like, he's really interesting because it's, like, he seems to do, like...
00:15:47
Speaker
a lot of things so that it does become like his full-time job. But he said something about, um he don't think he could work nine to five, but instead that means he works 24 seven. Yeah. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work to make it like, yeah. Yeah, definitely. So I guess I was quite interested as well in, um obviously i know,
00:16:07
Speaker
a little bit about your acting, but all over your spotlight, I'm sorry i keep referring back to your spotlight. It's okay. This is the thing, when i when I see someone who's got a really good spotlight, it's like, yes, I understand spotlight because I can do all my research on someone quite easily. yes um but So you've got all sorts of skills like dancing and hip-hop dancing and ah singing and stuff. So it's a lot more than just sort of acting that you're sort trained it Yeah, so,
Influences and Inspirations
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well, from a very young age, when I think it helped when I did like amateur dramatics and stuff. It was all like performance. It wasn't just acting. It was you know the whole shebang, singing and dancing. so And then I continued through pretty my childhood and to early teens doing solely just dancing, then concentrating more on acting.
00:16:50
Speaker
and as I got, you know, past 13, 14. But I always did some element of dancing slash singing. And then obviously when I went to university, it was it wasn't just a drama course, it was performing arts. So you did all three. But then you could specialise in certain areas as, you know, you got further down the line. So I've always done all three. I'd probably say my strongest as acting.
00:17:12
Speaker
for sure um but i can't do the other uh singing and dance as well it's good to have all three really you don't have to but it's beneficial with like jobs and everything um because you don't know what's going to come up i'm not saying i'm highly highly skilled in all and all of them but i've got some skill in them so um yeah it's it's definitely
Reflection on Career and Growth
00:17:30
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good to have you know more than one skill set but yeah i can yes sing dance act have you ever had to draw on them in in an acting role um just mainly all three i would say the only only ones is musical theater obviously um i did musicals in school and then in uni um and i wouldn't be opposed to doing them again but uh yeah probably musical theater and i'm a massive musical theater fan i'm like i go to london when i go to london i have to see a show west end show um
00:18:03
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And I've always been interested in acting through song because I think that's it's it's very engaging to watch um someone acting while they're singing because you're doing basically two things at once. When you say acting through song, is that like sort of... in musical theatre like, don't know, like Hamilton and then Manuel Miranda's acting while he's singing. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. ah Like, yeah, portraying the character through the song and, you know, telling the story through the song. I've always been interested in that and I think that's just off watching musicals when i was so little and... disney musical theater all that stuff um and go to see them constantly so yeah when whenever i've done stuff like that obviously yeah yeah you do have to sing dance and act all at the same time sometimes the accent work as well you've got like lots of accents listed on there yes um okay catching can you really do all them actually just some capacity i got told if you can do them to some capacity you should put them on i'm not saying i'm an expert at all of them i'm just saying i can do them to some capacity The reason I'm sort of asking about all these things on your spotlight is kind of sometimes we've had sessions with ah with Dan about like finding an agent and filling out things like that and sort of drawing on any your skills. And every time I've done it, my mind's just gone completely like it's not even like downplaying my skills. It's just all of a sudden it's like I've never done anything in my entire life.
00:19:24
Speaker
Obviously, just, you have to sort dig into yourself and like realize what you can actually do. Yeah, definitely. You know, like instead of sort of saying, oh, I'm all right at this, you got to go, I am actually good at this. I'm actually good at this, yeah. It's just kind of really interesting sort of seeing that sort properly all filled out and everything. So you did Malevolent World back in, well, not back in July. did it back in July, but you've been doing it until recently, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah, literally filmed my last scene on Saturday.
00:19:54
Speaker
Yeah, just gone. Oh, okay. Right. How's the the other half gone? Because Dan intentionally spread the second half out bit more, didn't he? Because I think he said it were it were a bit too a bit too much pressure, the first jump. So has been okay doing the the first half? Yeah, i am well, actually, i only I've only been in one scene, so I can't really say anything.
00:20:14
Speaker
I was literally there Saturday, and the scene I did, and we did like four takes, and it was one scene, so and then I was done. So that was finished. and But no, I really and i enjoyed being back with everyone, even though I was only there for like an hour and a half. i And yeah, and...
00:20:33
Speaker
Yeah, it was really good. It was a change being inside as well, because was indoors. know in the summer we were outside the whole time, which I loved. I loved shooting outside. It was really fun. It was. I just think it was just even so. I don't even necessarily think of it as filming something. It would just kind of sit outside in the sun for two days. It was so fun. And it makes it feel more real, I think, as well when you're acting, doesn't it? The first day when I was there, just, I literally didn't do anything until the end of the day. So I just sat around all day. And then it was like a scene, you were getting attacked by Balder, who were a zombie. Yes. And then that were really interesting because it were like, almost like I'd forgot that I was there to do acting. And then I thought you'd do an acting. And then... it were like one of the first sort of film film things i've i've done outside of the actor's forge and suddenly you were like doing real acting and i were just like oh shit i need to actually i need to actually seem like i can i can act now no you're really good you're really good but it was it was a fun it was a fun it was really fun shoot yeah yeah i've never done anything like that where it's improvised as well for that amount of time it's interesting yeah how was the sort of improv stuff then? I mean, did you find it? Yeah, I think it was okay because we had, like Dan had in the script, certain points we had to hit as well and bits of the story we had to follow. I think if it was complete improv, as in we didn't know what we were doing, I think I would have panicked a bit, but because Dan was really good at directing us and saying, you know, this scene's about this, just make sure you talk roughly about this sort of situation. And then, so I thought it was easy doing like that. And then,
00:22:08
Speaker
We collaborated, obviously, you know, when we you and I had some scenes, we talked about what we would say. And and it was the same with like Boulder and the other actors as well. So yeah, I didn't think I'd like, I mean, I like improv, but it's it's it's sometimes stressful at But I think because that had some sort of guidance to it, and it was well structured with the script and everything that Dan wrote. Yeah, really enjoyed it. It was really fun. And what about the showcases? So there's the two actors' Forge ones, and then there's the Bring Back the 90s. Just tell us a bit about them.
00:22:40
Speaker
Yeah. Well, the Bring Back the 90s one first was something that Laura, ah you know, Laura Daly, Laura Lee Daly? Yeah, yeah. So she's got a company called Fem93, and her and Diane Cullen, I don't know if you met Diane, who was the Forge, they basically and that run workshops through it and everything, and then they just got a group of us together who'd...
00:23:01
Speaker
they'd known from the forge and went to class with and they said look well we want to do this fundraising event and and we want to put this showcase on and because it was after we'd done the first actors forge one which we did last august and i think because i had so much fun doing it they like do you want to do this one and and it also advertises their company at the same time and you know the money that were in off ticket sales it was going towards like funding workshops and for Fem93 and everything so it was going back to the arts which was really good oh there was quite a lot of work I want to say there was maybe 20 of work so there's a lot of actors and we just did like very well-known scenes from 90s films and tv shows um
00:23:39
Speaker
And yeah, it was, had a blast. I did, um I did Scream. I'm trying to think what else. Pulp Fiction. Yeah. Harrison and I did Pulp Fiction, Scream, like Girl Interrupted. And then we had massive comedy stuff with friends. And yeah, it was just so fun. It was just a night of fun. And there was no pressure because we had no, um no like industry people come in. So it was off all the front of friends and family. So it was just literally fun. Yeah.
00:24:05
Speaker
Okay, I'd not thought about that as a difference between the the Bring Back the 90s and the the Actors Forge ones, because yeah agents and all sorts show up at the Actors Forge ones. Yeah, it's a bit more pressure.
00:24:17
Speaker
But no, I went along to that one. I really enjoyed the Bring Back the 90s one. Yeah, it was so fun. And it's quite a different experience then to the Actors Forge runs. Yeah. How's the experience feel different then? I just think it is a bit more nerve-wracking. And I think it is mainly because you know that. Because Dan will tell you as well. He'll just say it so casually like, oh, I've invited representatives from BBC and I think. And the top agents And then you'll see it like a week before And we'll be like oh there's no getting out of this now So yeah I think it's because you know Who's in the audience and you know You might grab their attention you might not And if you do want Maybe you don't want to and if you've got Representation it's your chance if you haven't Got representation sorry it's your chance to maybe try And get representation So it's, I mean, I already had an agent anyway when I was doing the second.
00:25:10
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, doing both of them. So I didn't really feel too much pressure. know others did in the class. But yeah, I just think it's just a little bit of added pressure because, yeah, the Fem93 one was all friends and family. And then with that one, you've got professionals. there from the industry. sort of yeah But it's a sit it was still so fun. and that it was yeah It was ridiculously fun. Does it um does it affect like your your performance in any way or at least your headspace when you're going out there knowing that there's there's that added pressure? I don't think so for me. I can't speak for anyone else. I think I went... i was going to say, ah I think I went quite hard on both of them. I think it's because you want to, as well as me... like and
00:25:52
Speaker
It's the pressure of performing in front of the professionals, but also I think with friends and family, some of mine haven't ever seen me act. Like my partner who, hate he'd never seen me perform like that professionally. And that was that was in the 90s one. And I think I just wanted to put a good show on for...
00:26:09
Speaker
everyone there so I think I felt like it was the same I was in the same headspace I just wanted to do the best I could and not fluff off the lines and you know and just act the best I could so I don't think it changed for me but I can't speak behalf of everyone else though but yeah same headspace for me it's interesting what you're saying about your partner because it's it's almost like in some ways I feel like I'm more scared of people I know seeing me do anything than than like any kind of professional person I'm like well they don't necessarily know me like this yes If my mum ever, I mean, I've never actually been in anything people can watch, but if my mum ever showed up to something, I think I might just completely freeze. Yeah, I think it helps if you don't don't spot them as well. Don't try and spot them. Yeah. if you If you spot them, you might be more inclined be nervous because I've done that before. But usually when you're on stage, it's it's so dark, you know, you can't see anything because of the light in any way. So yeah, I just, I think if I spotted them, I probably would have felt more pressure and nervous, but I try my best not to spot anyone I know. So yeah. I know, you know, it's probably good, the lights, because it means if anyone's doing a little wave to you, you don't know. it Yeah, you can't see. let's be big
00:27:14
Speaker
I think that's sort of all the major questions i have about sort of the stuff you've done. I mean, do you have any sort of just general sort of advice for people sort of pursuing acting, maybe especially trying to do it alongside other things, kind of trying to fit it in to their life? Yeah, I would just say always make a little bit of time for it, even if it's maybe because there's been times like this, there's weeks that I've had where I just haven't been able to fit anything in with it. If it's alongside, you know, your work, your day to day work, and obviously, you know, your personal life as well, you know, you want to make time for your personal life too. So I would just even try your best to even set like an hour or aside a week or even like half an hour or even a bit less, just even if it's 10 minutes, you know, and you're you're thinking of like whether that's, you know, like watching a bit of TV and then you you mimic the scene or you you look up, you know, acting tips or monologues or just anything and make notes. I would just say just try and set some time aside every week, but even if it is 10 minutes, you know,
00:28:12
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Because I know people have very busy lives and have kids and have, you know, demanding jobs and everything. Everyone has their own life. So it's just, even if it's just setting aside 10 minutes, and that would help you massively, you know? And it keeps you in that creative headspace as well. So that would be just my advice. And least you're doing something, you know? Do you have times where you're trying to do that and you're just like, oh, I'm still challenged?
00:28:34
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Yeah, for sure. I think it helps so much with us, though, because we've got the forge as well. Yeah, yeah. And unplugging the forge a lot, which Dan will love. But I think it's because we have that every week. So it's easier for us because as well, you get given scripts and you get given scenes to learn. So you've got that little extra thing you can do during the week. I think it's times when I don't have the forge. So we're on a break now, aren't we? I think it's a two week break. The time in between where I think, ooh, I should be itching to do something. I should be trying to do something, you know? think it's easier for us because we've got that every week, but it's when the gap's there. Yeah, I think as well, one of the nice things as well with doing the forge is it means when you are just sat around watching telly, it's kind of research, you know? Yes. You're kind of like, like if I watch a film that i like, I'm always like, is there something from this that I could do a scene? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I do that for time. It is quite nice when it turns those sort of what might be considered lazier sort of habits into something that is a bit more a bit more active. Yeah, definitely. Okay. um I like to just kind of end each episode by talking about a film that's either important to you in some way or your favourite film, um because I like to talk to people about films, but also...
00:29:43
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I think it's quite interesting sort of like comparing the things people are involved in and with the the things that they like. And I think um you said Disney films and specifically Beauty and the Beast. um I think we are mentioning a lot of sort of musical theatre and those kind of skills as part of your background. I feel like there's a very clear line from what you're saying. So yeah, I don't know. Tell me about Beauty and the Beast and Disney. Yeah, it's it's just because it's very nostalgic for me. So when I was little, um I'm talking like two years old, I remember just watching like, you know, Disney films and musicals like Sound of Music, Oliver, Annie, all the shebang. And then obviously all the Disney stuff with my grandma. And it was obviously very heartwarming. And I think that's where I maybe got the love for it. I would do little home videos and dance to them.
00:30:30
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like probably somewhere um so I think that's where I got the bug for it as well but also it was just those comforting films and I think Beauty and the Beast for me I think it was because it was the first one I think might have been the first film I ever remember watching to be honest and I just always loved the story I just loved how it was like a strong woman and she was intelligent and you know and I know the the concepts of it Maybe, you know, kid kidnapped and all that kind of thing now. But I just i just love the magic of it. And and I loved obviously see the songs and the dancing and the music and everything. It's always been my go-to answer when people say favourite films. But I've got so many favourite films. It changes all the time. Like, you know, every time I watch... Like recently I watched Weapons.
00:31:10
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I loved Weapons. Oh, nice. I really enjoyed it, yeah. There was mixed reviews on it. I loved Weapons. that's And I love Sinners. that I think we spoke about Sinners, I think. I think so, yeah, yeah. think we spoke about that. I've just got so many favourite films. So Beauty and the Beast is always like, i would say that's my childhood favourite and I would watch it now and happily sing along with it. But just so many films that inspire us and TV shows and it,
00:31:31
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It can be anything. like Sometimes I'll re-watch like comfort films you know and go back to them and re-watch them, but then it's discovering new stuff as well. Just get inspired all the time. right Yeah, everything, which I'm sure my majority people do. What was your thoughts on the... There were a live-action Beauty and the Beast, weren't there? Yeah, no, i was really I really enjoyed it. I went in with very, very high expectations, obviously.
00:31:53
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um No, and I really, really enjoyed it. I thought they did it, yeah, very, very well. I'm not necessarily saying just... She was the best singer, don't get us wrong, but she was very good as well. and But I think it comes from being Hermione and Harry Potter. Harry Potter's another answer I would have went with as well, because I grew up on Harry Potter as well. Went to the book launches, you know, when they were releasing the books, went to the midnight. When you used to go to the Metro Centre and they used to do, they used to like open at midnight, stay open until midnight and release the books. went to a few of them with the Harry Potter books. So Harry Potter was a big one for me as well. Massive one. Went to Hermione's World Book Day. LAUGHTER
00:32:27
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all that uh so Harry Potter was a big one as well um and I think that'll be ah a lot of people's favorite yeah I don't know like I never went to any book launches but like I think I remember the last one came out and me and my friend used to just be idiots who like run around town when we were teenagers with ah ah hanging out in the queue and stealing everyone's hats and having a little wizard fights But yeah, I think, because like Beauty and the Beast were one of the first that they remade a Lion King, wasn't it? I think so, yeah. I feel like, because when it comes to Disney films, my favourite is The Lion King. I do love The Lion King, That's always one of my top four. You know, on Letterboxd, you have a top four. And I'm like, always put The Lion King on there. Yeah. But I feel like by the time The Lion King came out as a live action thing that's not even really live action, I'm out on all those live action things. I think sometimes they remake these things as well. was literally talking to Dan, my partner, the other day, and he was saying, I think the next thing was watching was getting remade. can't remember what it was now. He's like, does anyone have an original idea? Yeah, I think some remakes are very good, but I just think...
00:33:36
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new scripter sometimes the way forward i think it was the jurassic was it the new jurassic park or world one that come out and it's just like why do that again we're not why yeah no i went to see that and i know that were just proper just like i don't there was some annoying kid in that there were like a family or something yeah you don't have to remake everything um The other one, i think quite a few people actually liked this one, but ah I was like, what's the point in this? Was the How to Train Your Dragon one? because Oh, see, I did enjoy that.
00:34:06
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But it was just the exact same, though? It was, yeah. Again, Dan, my partner. He he loved the original like the animated one. It's one of his favourite characters. animated films and i made him watch it and he was just like it's exactly the same it's exactly this like dialogue everything scenes it was sort of almost like in some ways it's good that they didn't change anything but i was like but what's wrong with ah the original one what's one but yeah i know quite a few people did like that but that was the one where i were like no i'm done with these things and i didn't even bother with i didn't even bother with lilo and stitch after that no i didn't bother with that
00:34:40
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But yes, okay. Unless you have anything else to say about Disney and Beauty and the Beast, I think that is everything for you. Thank you for talking to me. And would you like to tell people where they can find you? And if there's any projects or anything you want to mention? No.
00:34:58
Speaker
Well, I'm just, obviously, it's it's Rebecca Rogan Actress on Instagram. And I've obviously got my spotlight link there. Anything coming up, it'll just be, at the moment, Malevolent World. and That'll be out next year. at don't know what point next year. Definitely 2026. And then, yeah, I think there might be a new Actors Forward showcase the beginning of next year that Dan's inkling about. So, yeah, you could see me in that. That's it for now. just Just keep auditioning so we'll see what else comes up. Okay, no, that's great. Thank you. Thank you for talking to me and I'll see you later. No problem. Thank you for having me. See you later.
00:35:34
Speaker
Bye. What Makes You Tick is hosted, produced and edited by me, Ryan Watson. Thank you to Craig Pearson for designing the show logo. The theme music is Silent Movie 91 by Sasha End. Thank you once again to Rebecca for speaking to me for this episode. Join me next week for my conversation with writer, poet and actor Paul Proctor. And keep an eye out for a preview of that conversation by following at MakesYouTickPod on Instagram.
00:35:56
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Thanks for listening.