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NFL Offseason Chaos: Kupp to Steelers? Deebo to Denver? Where Does Davante Adams Land? Coaching Moves, Trade Rumors & Franchise Tag Buzz!
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The NFL offseason is in full swing, and we’re breaking down all the biggest moves! From coaching hires shaking up the league—like Pete Carroll to Vegas and Mike Vrabel to the Patriots—to blockbuster trade rumors, we’ve got it all covered. Will Cooper Kupp and Matt Stafford be a package deal? Is Deebo Samuel heading to Denver? Could Russell Wilson reunite with Pete in Vegas? And what’s the real market for Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, and Sam Darnold as franchise tag decisions loom?
We also dive into the biggest questions of the offseason: Will Aaron Rodgers have one last dance or finally call it a career? Does Davante Adams follow him wherever he goes? And what’s next for Justin Fields—will the Steelers re-sign him, or do the Giants and Raiders take a shot? Don’t miss this jam-packed episode as we break down every move that could shake up the 2025 season! 🚀🔥
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Transcript
End of Football Season Blues
00:00:06
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:00:19
Nacc
Man, guys, I really, really was not ready for that first week without football. It's so sad when it's over. It's so, so sad.
Family Time and Snow Fun
00:00:29
Nacc
But luckily, guys, you have us, your your your lovely neighborhood podcasters here, where the fun never stops.
00:00:34
Fabio
Wow!
00:00:38
Nacc
ah But yeah, i was it was very, very sad. it was I didn't know what to do with myself really on Sunday. It was kind of weird. You know, I had to like actually be involved with my kids and... ah you know, be a father, you know, play in the snow, spend some time with my wife.
00:00:48
Roger Emeka
to wife to your father yeah how many how many months of this we have six months no seven months this
00:00:51
Nacc
It was very, very foreign to me this weekend. I got to say, I'm kidding.
00:00:58
Nacc
Oh, there was just 200, 200
Offseason Activities Excitement
00:01:00
Nacc
days. i think it's 200 days until the season starts, which is a lot of days. And then we have,
00:01:06
Roger Emeka
is the best part of this is the best part though like with the off season sometimes it's like combine yeah the combine all the
00:01:09
Fabio
yeah offseason is the best part. Low-key, the best part is the offseason. Yeah.
00:01:12
Nacc
Yeah, look, it this it doesn't really stop until we after the draft. Then it goes like severely dry, and then there's like some some mini camps that kind of start, those voluntary ones that start like a little bit later.
00:01:17
Roger Emeka
Yep.
00:01:27
Nacc
ah But yeah, it's still honestly, it's still for right now, it's it's there's still some some football in the air, which is which is great. not every Sunday, but as you mentioned, the combine's coming up and the the draft is right around the corner.
00:01:39
Nacc
There's free agency that's going to start in just a few
NFL Coaching Changes
00:01:42
Nacc
short weeks. So with that in mind, and we're going to take the this opportunity with this episode to go over some coaches that changed places.
00:01:50
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:01:50
Nacc
There was seven coaches, ah seven new hires in the NFL this year.
00:01:54
Fabio
So
00:01:55
Nacc
And then we'll also look at some players that some are looking that are on the trade block or some to be released and some that are UFA and then see what we think our best fits are so I say we dive right in um I'll go through quickly the coaches the new coaching hires in the NFL so you had mr.
00:02:15
Nacc
Liam Cohen do all with the ah Jaguars yeah o oh
00:02:21
Fabio
so cringe
00:02:22
Roger Emeka
You got to do the head though.
00:02:23
Fabio
Duvall.
00:02:27
Nacc
yeah that's like just super
00:02:28
Fabio
He looks like a psycho. He looks like a psycho.
00:02:33
Nacc
We had Kellen Moore, who signed one day after winning the Super Bowl with Eagles with the Saints. Brian Schottenheimer, I think the most questionable one on the board, to the Cowboys.
00:02:45
Nacc
Ben Johnson to the Bears. Aaron Glenn to the Jets. Pete Carroll makes his return to the NFL with the Vegas ah Raiders and Mike Vrabel, one of the Patriots royalties that goes to the Patriots.
00:03:01
Nacc
So I want to dive right in ah Raj, what was your,
Kellen Moore's Impact on the Saints
00:03:05
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:03:05
Nacc
maybe your favorite hiring of the bunch?
00:03:08
Roger Emeka
Yeah, I think it was Kellen Moore for me, especially what he did so far this season, during the season with the Eagles and then obviously in the playoffs as well. What I liked about him was that, I think coming in, people were worried about the fit with Jalen Hurts.
00:03:23
Roger Emeka
You know, would they have him ah not run enough? Would they have him too much under center? And what I felt he did was he played to the strength of Hurts and he played to the strength of the team, which was running the ball, right? Too often you see these um kind of like flavor of the month offensive coordinators forget about the run and just try to throw, throw, throw the ball.
00:03:44
Roger Emeka
And if I look at Kellen Moore's history as an OC, he's been in a top 10 offense four out of his six years as an OC. So ah three times with Dallas, obviously with Philly as well.
00:03:59
Roger Emeka
And when he's been had that top 10 offense, he's also had a top 10 running game. So it shows that he's able to be balanced as well. So I really see this as a nice benefit for Alvin Kamara, who 29, you know, it's not that far off from Saquon Barkley, 1,400 all-purpose yards last year.
00:04:11
Nacc
Yep. yep
00:04:18
Roger Emeka
as you know, like he doesn't rush for 1,000 yards, but he's always at the 900 rushing, 500 or so receiving, eight TDs, and he was RB15. So I think it could be a really big boon for Alvin. Alvin Kamara, Kendry Moore is there.
00:04:30
Roger Emeka
Let's see what happens at the at the quarterback position with Derek Carr. I don't think they have a choice but to keep going with him, but I'd like to see what they do with him and Olave and the rest of that wide receiver corps. But I really like Kellen Moore. I really like how he he grew as an offensive coordinator this year.
00:04:46
Nacc
you think You think the Cowboys are going regret letting him out of the building?
00:04:52
Roger Emeka
Probably, but I think Schottenheimer is going to do better than people think because of his dad. His dad was an amazing coach.
00:05:00
Fabio
Yeah, true.
00:05:00
Roger Emeka
I think that lineage pa goes through.
00:05:01
Nacc
Yeah, for sure, yeah.
00:05:03
Roger Emeka
But he's coached in one-fourth of the NFL teams. He's been in eight NFL teams.
00:05:10
Nacc
That's crazy.
00:05:10
Roger Emeka
He's seen everything.
00:05:11
Fabio
Yeah.
00:05:12
Roger Emeka
So he might not be the best play caller, but I have a sneaky suspicion that he's actually going to do really well because he's been in so many places and because of his dad.
00:05:21
Nacc
Interesting.
00:05:22
Fabio
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
00:05:22
Nacc
Interesting.
Ben Johnson and Bears' Fantasy Prospects
00:05:25
Nacc
And what about you, Fab? Which coaching hire ah caught your eye this offseason?
00:05:31
Fabio
I mean, obviously from a fantasy football perspective, it's Ben Johnson to the Bears. You have to figure he's been like the OC darling or head coach darling for the last few years. Everyone's won a piece of of Ben Johnson and he's...
00:05:46
Fabio
he's he's had some interviews and he's refused some and all that. Now he goes to the bears where by all accounts, you know, something he gets to mold the entire offense in his image. He gets Caleb Williams who coming off a, not a horrible rookie season by all accounts. I think he's still through for, for a decent amount of yards and he throws some, he showed some promise in the end. You have, you have, um,
00:06:10
Fabio
You have Roma Dunze there too. You saw some great offensive weapons. So I think it's going to be very interesting from fantasy standpoint. um I think they have to work on the O-line in the offseason to make sure that that gets up to par.
00:06:22
Fabio
That way you can give some caleb give some protection for Caleb.
00:06:23
Nacc
big time
00:06:26
Fabio
But If I'm a Bears fan right now, I am obviously excited because you kind of want to see what he can do in that offense. Because you look at what he did with Jared Goff, right? I mean, Jared Goff, by all accounts, great quarterback, you know, but you have to assume that Caleb Williams has a higher ceiling than whatever Goff can have too.
Aaron Glenn's Influence on the Jets
00:06:43
Fabio
And no knock on Goff because Goff is for sure, you know, but like Goff only turned off turn it on towards the end and you really saw him
00:06:45
Nacc
Allegedly, they're both first overall picks.
00:06:53
Fabio
develop under Ben Johnson, right? So I just feel like it's going to be a very good hire from a fantasy perspective. um Real football perspective, though, like not fantasy necessarily, cause I don't think it's going really affect them all that wasn't that much.
00:07:04
Fabio
I do like Aaron Glenn at the Jets, though. I like that move a lot. I like... I like... Already, like just day one, right in the press conference, he's really setting the tone and all that stuff. So from like a team morale perspective, the Jets needed this.
00:07:22
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:07:22
Fabio
And and i see a lot of i see a a lot of what they were missing.
00:07:26
Fabio
So I don't know. I just think it's going to be a very good move too from a real football perspective. But for fantasy-wise, Ben Johnson with the Bears next year is going to interesting.
00:07:35
Nacc
ra
00:07:36
Roger Emeka
I love those two, Fab. Maybe just to go back to Ben Johnson, I'm really interested to see how he potentially unlocks Cole Komet.
00:07:57
Nacc
Yeah, but I think also Fab alluded to it. like They need help on the offensive line. ah He was sacked a boatload of times, and he needs to stay upright.
00:08:01
Roger Emeka
Yeah, for sure.
00:08:03
Fabio
Yeah, first and foremost. Yeah.
00:08:06
Nacc
He can't be running for his life um every every snap.
00:08:06
Roger Emeka
Right? Yeah.
00:08:10
Nacc
so No, those are definitely definitely the good ones. I think the boring ones for me were like Rabel. I was just like, eh. and Like, okay, another Patriots guy.
00:08:21
Nacc
They're trying to replace a Patriots guy.
00:08:22
Roger Emeka
right
00:08:23
Nacc
like I just feel like...
Skepticism about Mike Vrabel with Patriots
00:08:25
Fabio
Yeah.
00:08:25
Nacc
it just felt really weird to me. Like, and everyone knew he was going there, right? Like that was the worst kept secret and in all of, in all of football this year. But it just like, really? Like, I thought you guys were restarting. I thought you guys are, you know, you've made that mistake with Mayo.
00:08:39
Nacc
i mean, look, look, at least, at least Vrabel has a track record.
00:08:40
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:08:41
Fabio
Yeah, but.
00:08:43
Nacc
He did bring a Tennessee Titans team first, first overall in in the AFC.
00:08:43
Fabio
Yes.
00:08:44
Roger Emeka
Yes.
00:08:46
Fabio
Yeah.
00:08:49
Nacc
I'm pretty sure. Did he, did he make it an AFC championship game?
00:08:51
Roger Emeka
Yes.
00:08:52
Fabio
Yes.
00:08:52
Roger Emeka
They lost against the Patriots, no?
00:08:52
Nacc
Against the, again, I think they lost against the Patriots. Yeah, that's the that was the one. um Well, that could have been even a divisional round. Anyways, he he had he had the first one. He had some good years in Tennessee. So, like, I definitely like Mike ra Rabel higher over a Gerard Mayo higher.
00:09:08
Nacc
But I just seem like, ah, really? Like, I thought you guys were going in a different direction now. So, that one was kind of boring to me. But
Liam Cohen's Potential with Jaguars
00:09:15
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:09:15
Nacc
what i'm most interested in for real is Mr.
00:09:19
Nacc
Duvall himself, Liam Cohen. I think we've we've all alluded to the fact that Trevor Lawrence is very talented. he's he He could throw the football. And if Cohen revived the likes of Baker Mayfield and made him look like what he is now, I'm kind of like, he's okay.
00:09:38
Nacc
He came out first overall. He's played a few years. They gave him that huge extension that, by all accounts, didn't really deserve. They just kind of gave it to him based on the fact that he was the first overall pick and he had some talent.
00:09:49
Nacc
But now it's time to like go to work and show out. So i'm I'm curious to see what that does for Trevor Lawrence, and hopefully he does become that player everyone expected him to be.
00:10:00
Fabio
The only thing I don't like about this hire, and this is like not to knock on Liam Cohen and and and what he did for Baker and all that stuff, is that it's just like one year's worth for a body of work, I find.
00:10:11
Fabio
Like, yeah, fantastic season and but in in Tampa Bay. But, and yeah, he has the acumen of being offensive coordinators for sure. Not much experience as a head coach. So that's where I'm only concerned about it. Like, I can say something about Ben Johnson, obviously.
00:10:26
Fabio
But, ah you know, it's...
00:10:27
Nacc
I can say everything about all of them, pretty much, except for Carroll and Vrabel.
00:10:27
Roger Emeka
Canales. Yeah. Canales.
00:10:32
Nacc
I think they're all first-time head coaches.
00:10:36
Fabio
I don't The track record is just one season, one really, really good season, and he's a head coach. and I don't know. like i'm not I'm not as – if Trevor Lawrence doesn't do all that much better or still stays about the same as he did last year, I wouldn't be surprised. Whereas if Ben Johnson and the Bears and Kellen Moore and the Saints and all them, like if they don't – if they're not that force multiplier you expect them to be, that would shock me a little bit more.
00:11:01
Roger Emeka
Where I agree with you is he lacks the body of work as an NFL coach, just like a pure coach in general. Only two seasons as an OC with the Rams in 2022, and then he went to college to Kentucky, then 2024 with the Bucs.
00:11:07
Fabio
Yeah.
00:11:11
Fabio
Yes.
00:11:14
Roger Emeka
So that's why I don't disagree with you, Fab. um I think like even Canalis, who I'm comparing to, i think he had even more of a body of work from a coaching standpoint. So think I think we'll see. If I could just interject quickly, just...
00:11:26
Roger Emeka
I love the Pete Carroll hire. Like, I've always been a big Pete Carroll guy.
00:11:28
Fabio
Same.
00:11:30
Roger Emeka
And the Raiders needed to kind of just flush out all the crap from the ah McDaniels and then even the substitute teacher.
00:11:30
Fabio
Same.
00:11:34
Nacc
Yeah.
00:11:38
Roger Emeka
What was it, Antonio Pierce?
00:11:39
Fabio
Antonio Pierce.
00:11:40
Roger Emeka
Like, they just need a culture setter. They obviously have to figure out what they have to do what they're going to do on an offensive standpoint. But I love the Pete Carroll hire. Like, the most energetic 73-year-old you could ever think of.
00:11:48
Fabio
Yeah.
00:11:50
Roger Emeka
nuts.
00:11:50
Fabio
That's actually the only note that I have next to Pete Carroll's name on the show notes is love this. Cause I really, yeah I thought it was a great hire and it's really good.
00:11:56
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:11:58
Fabio
It's going to set the tone again, similar to Aaron Glenn and the jets, right? I think it's going to really help the locker room and all that stuff.
00:12:02
Roger Emeka
Yes.
00:12:04
Fabio
It's, it's, it's what they need because Vegas has been, um, Dans le poubelle, for last little while, as they say.
00:12:09
Roger Emeka
Dump. Dump.
00:12:10
Nacc
now now they ah Now they need a quarterback. They got the structure guy that they needed to kind of, you know, tail everything off.
00:12:15
Fabio
Yeah.
00:12:17
Nacc
But now they need the quarterback. I know we said that last year. They had one of the more talented rosters in the NFL, minus the most important position.
00:12:21
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:12:23
Fabio
Mm-hmm.
00:12:24
Nacc
So hopefully hopefully something happens.
00:12:25
Fabio
Yeah.
00:12:27
Nacc
And maybe Mr. Unlew comes to town and pairs back up with Pete. Yeah.
00:12:35
Fabio
Wouldn't be a bad idea.
00:12:37
Nacc
i don't know if I don't know if they want it. think their relationship was a bit sour the last couple of years.
00:12:40
Roger Emeka
it got It got better.
00:12:40
Nacc
But
00:12:41
Roger Emeka
it got They
Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford Trade Talks
00:12:42
Fabio
it's It's a little...
00:12:42
Roger Emeka
kissed and made up.
00:12:43
Nacc
the kids are made up.
00:12:44
Nacc
Did they use tongue?
00:12:44
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:12:45
Nacc
or
00:12:46
Fabio
It's a little dangerous. It's a little dangerous. That's very dangerous. Anyways. That's
00:12:51
Roger Emeka
What, the fact they kissed and made up? Or did they use top?
00:12:54
Fabio
a used tongue.
00:12:54
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:12:54
Nacc
Or the fact they used tongue, I think he was polluting to.
00:12:55
Fabio
That's a used tongue.
00:12:56
Nacc
it Yeah, yeah. Well, guys, there's also been a lot of buzz this offseason with players who've been put on the trade block and players that are potentially looking to probably get released and some, you know, some attractive UFAs.
00:13:13
Nacc
So with that in mind, um I wanted to see what your thoughts were on ah some players and, you know, where you think they'd go or their best fits basically um coming up in the next few weeks. So,
00:13:27
Nacc
ah First, are I'm hearing a lot of rumblings of Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford being like a package deal, kind of like trading both of them away at the same time.
00:13:38
Nacc
um Raj, what do you think here? is Are they a package deal? Are they are they both moving? is Is only Cup moving? I know Cup is 100% moving, but would you get rid of Stafford too? What are your thoughts on this?
00:13:51
Roger Emeka
I just don't see it. Like, I've been in the camp that Stafford is in LA. He's become a transplant LA guy. McVay absolutely loves him. Like, i think I think he's tied to McVay, actually. i think if they were to trade him, I could actually see McVay being like, I'm out of here.
00:14:07
Roger Emeka
Like he's not going to stay as a Rams coach until, you know, McStafford retires.
00:14:08
Nacc
Mm-hmm.
00:14:12
Roger Emeka
I know as his wife talks a lot of smack on her podcast and she talks and there's been rumors about them wanting to move him because you know, she's had a bit of a potty mouth, but I really don't see him going anywhere. If he says he's coming back, it's because he's coming back to the Rams.
00:14:26
Roger Emeka
In regards to Cup, I really think it's Steelers. If you were to go anywhere, the Steelers could use chain-moving slot receiver to pair with George Pickens or even the Packers. The Packers are over-invested on X receivers like Watson and Wicks and Dobbs. They have too many guys on the outside.
00:14:46
Roger Emeka
They could also use someone that pairs very well with Jaden Reed in the slot to kind of just get first downs and just have that mature... mature wide receiver in their wide receiver room.
00:14:58
Nacc
Yeah. So before I get to your opinion on this, Fab, I do want to state that apparently he's only due $27 million next year, Matthew Stafford. So I think that was an issue going into last offseason is they wanted a contract extension and they weren't prepared to do so.
00:15:17
Nacc
And I think they're still at that kind of standstill where... The Rams are okay paying a 37-year-old $27 million this year and don't want to really it. But from, I guess, Stafford's camp, he feels like he should be paid like one of the top guys in the league, and he wants closer to that $50, $55 million price tag, which I guess, look, makes...
00:15:27
Fabio
Yeah.
00:15:38
Roger Emeka
nick bur Nick Burris' is agent?
00:15:40
Fabio
since
00:15:41
Nacc
Yeah, exactly, exactly, Mr. Top 5. um But quickly, Fab, what do you think what do you think about this one?
00:15:49
Fabio
I like Cooper Cup to the Steelers. I was even thinking Washington because for the exact same reasons, it would definitely be a security blanket for Jaden Daniels. ah Stafford has a $49 million dollars cap hit.
00:16:02
Fabio
So whosever whoever is going to trade for him, like I know the Rams have been talking about like wanting a first round pick for Matthew Stafford. I don't see how you can justify asking for a first round pick when you're sending over a $49 million dollars cap hit.
00:16:16
Fabio
Like I know it's Matthew Stafford.
00:16:16
Nacc
Well, they'd likely, they'd likely, obviously the team trading is going to obviously sign them to an extension to clean all that up.
00:16:18
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:16:18
Fabio
You would have to.
00:16:23
Nacc
But, uh,
00:16:23
Fabio
Yeah, these contracts have not aged well at all. So if they are a package deal, um it would be, yeah, I don't know. Like they have to be giving up something to to get them out of there. I feel like those contracts have not aged well at all.
00:16:40
Nacc
No, and I think i think Cup is more probably going to be leaning more towards a release because his contract too is...
00:16:40
Fabio
Matthew Stafford.
00:16:46
Fabio
Even, yeah, that's a $22 million dollars debt cap hit if he's released.
00:16:51
Roger Emeka
well
00:16:52
Nacc
Yeah, I think there's a there's a stipulation somewhere with like post-June 1st release and stuff like that.
00:16:57
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:16:57
Fabio
Yeah.
00:16:57
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:16:58
Nacc
There's like... a
00:16:58
Fabio
If he's post June 1st, it's 7.5. Yeah. 7.5. Yeah.
00:17:01
Nacc
Yeah, exactly. So they'll only have a dead cap of 7.5.
00:17:02
Fabio
yeah
00:17:04
Nacc
um So that's what they'll probably designate as a post-June 1st and let him go sign elsewhere. But I think he's due a $5 million dollars roster bonus the third day, I want to say, of the new league year.
00:17:16
Nacc
So um there $7.5 million in the new league year.
00:17:18
Fabio
seven and a half yeah
00:17:22
Nacc
So that's a tough... a tough contract to kind of swallow. So a lot of, and a lot of teams know that, right?
00:17:28
Fabio
Yeah.
00:17:28
Nacc
lot of teams will hold it hostage. you'd be like, well, no we'll trade you after he's he's done. So, so if he's, it's a roster bonus.
00:17:32
Fabio
100%.
00:17:32
Fabio
Yeah,
00:17:35
Nacc
So if he's obviously released, he doesn't get access to that. So, um, I say he most likely gets released, but, um, but we'll see.
00:17:41
Fabio
yeah I think so too. I think that's a likely scenario.
00:17:43
Nacc
Yeah.
00:17:43
Fabio
But I do like him in Washington for the exact same reason that Roger mentioned. I think it will be a very good pairing for Jaden Dino and have that that security blanket for him. But the Steelers so never have never had, or at least from my recollection, it's since maybe Antonio Brown where they have a guy that can really you know, soak up all of those targets and all those catches that could be Cooper cut for them.
00:18:01
Nacc
Heinz Ward. That's the last kind of guy, security blanket guy that they've had.
00:18:03
Fabio
I said, since Antonio.
00:18:03
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:18:06
Fabio
Yeah.
00:18:07
Roger Emeka
yeah okay like a possession true possession receiver yeah
00:18:08
Fabio
Yeah. But Heinz Ward.
00:18:09
Nacc
True possession receiver, yeah.
00:18:09
Fabio
Yes. yes
00:18:11
Nacc
yeah um Next up here, we actually just mentioned it briefly before the end of the last segment, but there's been rumblings.
Russell Wilson's Future and Possible Reunion with Pete Carroll
00:18:22
Nacc
Will Russell Wilson unite with Pete Carroll in Las Vegas? What say you, Fab?
00:18:28
Fabio
i think Listen, I think it's not a horrible idea. There is already that relationship there. Russell Wilson obviously played his entire career with Pete Carroll at Seahawks, right?
00:18:34
Nacc
Yeah.
00:18:39
Fabio
So it's not as if they don't know each other. um The quarterback room in the Raiders is is thin to say the least. There's Minshew under contract right now in AOC. They're probably going to be looking for a quarterback in the draft.
00:18:50
Roger Emeka
Thank
00:18:52
Fabio
um I don't know where they're picking right now. that They might have a chance of getting Shadir Sanders if you fall some. I think they're picking seventh or eighth. It's not impossible.
00:19:01
Nacc
yeah
00:19:02
Fabio
It's not impossible. So you figure you pair you put Sanders in that room with AOC and you have Russell Wilson. I would cut Minshew and just save a cap space of about $6 million.
00:19:12
Fabio
dollars and Then you have Sanders sitting behind Russell Wilson for a little bit.
00:19:13
Nacc
yeah
00:19:17
Nacc
I can't see. I can't see that.
00:19:19
Fabio
You can't see what? Sanders sitting behind?
00:19:20
Roger Emeka
i can't see it either.
00:19:21
Nacc
Yeah, I can't see.
00:19:21
Roger Emeka
can't see it.
00:19:22
Nacc
Oh my god, that would that would be... um my like they I feel like there'd be a fight every single day.
00:19:25
Roger Emeka
Can't it.
00:19:27
Roger Emeka
do Do you think the Raiders are trading up?
00:19:28
Nacc
I think he would hate...
00:19:29
Roger Emeka
Do you think the Raiders are trading up?
00:19:30
Fabio
What's that?
00:19:33
Roger Emeka
Because he's not, he's not i don't think I don't think he's going, getting past the Giants, man.
00:19:38
Fabio
I've seen so many mock drafts that my head is spinning, to be honest with you, about how he gets past the Giants and gets to the Raiders at seven or... Sorry, correct me if wrong. Is it seven or eight that they're drafting out, like right around that spot? I...
00:19:48
Nacc
The only way that happens is if the Titans don't go QB. And then everyone's going to be in a spiral.
00:19:54
Roger Emeka
possible.
00:19:55
Nacc
And if they take that that Penn State um defensive end, Carter, Abdul Carter, he's the top the top pick.
00:20:01
Roger Emeka
Abdul Carter.
00:20:02
Fabio
Hunter?
00:20:03
Roger Emeka
Abdul Carter.
00:20:04
Fabio
Carter, that's his name. Yeah.
00:20:06
Nacc
like Obviously, if you figure the Browns are going to take him at ah two, if Garrett Wilson, Garrett... Miles Garrett is out of the building and be, you know, you trade the the big contract for the ah stud rookie.
00:20:16
Fabio
Yeah.
00:20:21
Nacc
But, um yeah, I don't know, Raj. what do you What do you think about Russell Wilson to Vegas? Does that make sense?
00:20:27
Roger Emeka
So at first I was thinking it's not going to make sense because kind of the players they have don't really fit with the way Russell Wilson plays. Brock Bowers, especially Jokowi Meyers, like slot guys and yak guys. But then Chip Kelly's offensive coordinator.
00:20:43
Roger Emeka
And if you recall when Chip Kelly was either with the Niners or especially with Oregon, even we saw it with Ohio State,
00:20:43
Nacc
Mm-hmm.
00:20:49
Fabio
100%. Yeah.
00:20:51
Roger Emeka
they leverage the running quarterback. So a lot of read options, lot of bootleg, a lot of RPOs. So that actually could be an interesting fit. But if I look at it, honestly, it's either Raiders, Jets.
00:21:04
Roger Emeka
And if even at Jets, like I'd rather have Tyron Taylor. To me, I went through the Those are the only two options for Russell Wilson or going back to the Steelers.
00:21:08
Fabio
Yeah.
00:21:11
Nacc
ah there's ah you've been here I've been hearing a lot of Giants, man. that the It's picking up Steen.
00:21:14
Roger Emeka
To start, mind you, to start.
00:21:17
Fabio
yeah
00:21:17
Roger Emeka
but um but mind you nak to start in terms of back backup the list is way bigger but in terms of like
00:21:18
Nacc
but he would
00:21:22
Nacc
Oh, no, no. he's he he's He's not starting for the Giants right now?
00:21:25
Fabio
Right now he's starting for the giants, ah hundred percent, a hundred percent.
00:21:26
Nacc
he's He's the New York Giants starter if you sign Russell Wilson.
00:21:26
Roger Emeka
right now right now in april in april no no no chance yeah man yes yes man yes like enough
00:21:28
Fabio
Now. 30, $35 million for Russell
00:21:30
Nacc
even even
00:21:33
Nacc
You think they'd go over and they start rookie over over Wilson if they signed him? Wilson is not going to come cheap. Everyone thinks he's going to come like you're going to be signing this guy to at least 30, $35 million, dollars right?
00:21:45
Nacc
Like you're looking at the Baker Mayfield kind of deal.
00:21:46
Roger Emeka
Why? why is Why? For what? He's crazy. was thinking, he's a bridge, though.
00:21:49
Nacc
But that's what, well, because that's what the goal is.
00:21:50
Fabio
thirty thirty five million dollars for russell Wilson.
00:21:52
Nacc
It's half of the top five.
00:21:53
Roger Emeka
How much...
00:21:54
Nacc
That's half of the top five. $30 million is cheap for a starting quarterback, technically, if you're looking at it that way.
00:21:58
Roger Emeka
i was man i was thinking he's a bridge though like how much how much like
00:22:02
Fabio
Yeah, at this point in his career, you know.
00:22:03
Nacc
that's it but that's But that's his that's his market. That's his market is $30-35 million for two years. Like two years, $70 million, something like that.
00:22:10
Roger Emeka
So, Nack, you're saying maybe interesting three plays places, Raiders, Jets, and Giants. The only places he
00:22:16
Nacc
Anyone who needs a QB right now is is on the table. I would say the Giants are one of them, the Jets, Vegas. You can't count out the Steelers. You've been hearing back and forth of whatever.
00:22:24
Roger Emeka
he could like...
00:22:25
Nacc
like They need a QB. you can't count them out as a team that's not looking for one.
00:22:27
Roger Emeka
Yeah. If you're the Titans, like, would you have rather have a Levis or would you rather to have Russell Wilson you're the Titans?
00:22:33
Nacc
Like probably Levis, not for nothing.
00:22:34
Roger Emeka
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, too.
00:22:35
Nacc
Like he's younger. you'd probably be able to, maybe he's cheaper, you know?
00:22:37
Roger Emeka
Exactly.
00:22:39
Nacc
Like if you're going to draft Cam Ward or or or Sanders, like you you want to you don't, I don't know.
00:22:47
Roger Emeka
Yeah. I,
00:22:48
Nacc
To me, it's any team that needs a quarterback right now. So the problem is, is like, he's a guy where you need a quarterback and you think you're actually going to win. That's why it's like Giants don't make sense to me because they're not in like a, like,
00:22:59
Fabio
Zero. No.
00:23:00
Nacc
They're not winning with another quarterback away from winning right now, right?
00:23:04
Fabio
the giants only make sense to me if the The Giants only make sense to me if the contract is favorable.
00:23:04
Nacc
Like, another Russell Wilson away.
00:23:09
Fabio
$30
Aaron Rodgers' Next Move
00:23:10
Fabio
million dollars is not favorable. If he comes in at around $20, fine, or $25, we can have that conversation.
00:23:14
Nacc
Yeah, i don't i don't I don't think we'll get you don't get that low.
00:23:16
Fabio
Oh, Gino's getting $25, right? So it's not impossible.
00:23:18
Roger Emeka
Fab, I don't and have...
00:23:18
Nacc
Yeah, but Gino, how long did he sign ago? Right?
00:23:21
Roger Emeka
It's like four years, four five years.
00:23:21
Fabio
Two years ago?
00:23:23
Nacc
Wow.
00:23:23
Roger Emeka
I don't have confidence Wilson's fit with Neighbors, like, at all.
00:23:23
Fabio
No.
00:23:28
Fabio
No, I don't think it's a very good move at all.
00:23:29
Roger Emeka
Zero fit.
00:23:31
Fabio
I think it's a horrible move. I'm just trying to see if the numbers make sense because then because the Giants should be drafting a quarterback.
00:23:33
Nacc
i don't like I don't like it either, to be honest.
00:23:35
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:23:38
Fabio
Ideally, they'll be drafting a quarterback. And if I'd rather have my quarterback sit for at least six games, eight games, whatever it is, right behind you know, Russell Wilson, the vet, the starter, and then he can, and then let the rookie back take, then let the rookie take the reins and take control. But um and the numbers have to make sense. But Roger, I agree with you. Russell Wilson and neighbors will not work at all.
00:24:01
Nacc
and don't I don't think so. I don't think so.
00:24:03
Roger Emeka
The subtweeting.
00:24:04
Fabio
russll Russell Wilson. I don't see him working anywhere except for, except for Vegas.
00:24:10
Nacc
Well, talk about something else that didn't work this year, and that's Mr. Debo Samuel, Rodgers' favorite fantasy football player, I think, of all time.
00:24:21
Nacc
There's rumors, actually, that he's obviously, they they've granted him permission and to to seek out a trade but now it's looking even more likely that he's going to be released um there's reports saying that he's like 30 pounds overweight and stuff like that so ask you Raj what is he what is he even worth in a trade right now and and what team makes sense
00:24:30
Fabio
Yeah.
00:24:42
Roger Emeka
So I've looked it up. Typically, these star receivers usually command picks in a trade. If you go back to OBJ to Cleveland, Hopkins, Arizona, Diggs to the Bills, Julio Titans, um even Percy Harvin, which was like actually the best comp for Debo Samuel.
00:24:58
Fabio
Yeah, that's a great comp.
00:24:59
Roger Emeka
So i think I think Denver could be interesting.
Debo Samuel's Trade Value
00:25:03
Nacc
yeah
00:25:03
Roger Emeka
They could use someone who can compliment Courtland Sutton, who can play out of the backfield as well.
00:25:05
Fabio
I see this. Yep.
00:25:12
Roger Emeka
Bo Nix loves the quick pass and the yak yards.
00:25:15
Fabio
Yep.
00:25:17
Roger Emeka
So I think that would be a really nice fit. oh He needs to get his conditioning up in that al altitude though, like 30.
00:25:22
Nacc
do they have ah Do they have nice treadmills in Denver?
00:25:26
Roger Emeka
They have 5,000 feet of altitude. so even better, man. He's going to have to get in shape.
00:25:32
Nacc
So quickly, what's he worth? like what's What are you giving up for if you're Denver?
00:25:35
Roger Emeka
like ah Like a third and a fifth, fourth like fourth and fourth and fifth. But like again, these these kind of like quote-unquote star wide receivers always go for...
00:25:44
Nacc
third yeah Well, look, you mentioned you mentioned ah ab AB went for a third and a fifth way back when to the Raiders.
00:25:46
Roger Emeka
have to see if they even have those picks.
00:25:48
Fabio
Yeah.
00:25:50
Roger Emeka
Yeah. This is when but the Raiders, yeah.
00:25:53
Nacc
The Raiders, yeah. He went for a third and a fifth.
00:25:54
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:25:56
Nacc
Fab, quickly, what what is what is Debo worth to you? And where what's his best fit?
00:25:59
Fabio
i don't think much. Yeah. but Roger again, hit a good one. i was thinking about the Cowboys actually, just cause I feel like be a nice complimentary receiver to CD lamb.
00:26:05
Roger Emeka
Ooh. I like that.
00:26:07
Fabio
Again, exact same reasons as Roger mentioned.
00:26:08
Roger Emeka
like
00:26:10
Fabio
I just, I just, I feel like they're, they're missing that wide receiver too. They've been looking for it for a while now. could be really helpful. Maybe Debo can fill those shoes. And yeah, I guess a third and a fifth, I guess.
00:26:23
Fabio
I mean, as far as a compensation is concerned for the, for the trade value, I mean, do you have to see exactly how out of shape is he. I was looking at his stats. you know like Apart from that one year in 2021 where he went off for those 1,400 yards, he's he like he's
00:26:41
Nacc
Raj doing the Don Cherry.
00:26:43
Fabio
and he was healthy all of last year. So I don't want to say health is an issue with him. He played the second most amount of snaps he did in his career. first being First amount of snaps being that year where he went off.
00:26:55
Roger Emeka
Bro, if that's healthy, man, I don't i don't know.
00:26:55
Fabio
So he was healthy.
00:26:57
Roger Emeka
i like i don't want to be healthy.
00:26:59
Fabio
yeah Well, they went away from him. Like, they weren't even looking for him towards the end. It was all Juwan Jennings, right?
00:27:03
Nacc
ah
00:27:03
Fabio
Even when he was healthy, Juwan Jennings was the alpha over there.
00:27:05
Roger Emeka
Okay. why
00:27:06
Fabio
So, yeah, I mean, you have to see what his conditioning is and all that stuff. But I think it could be interesting in Dallas. He can he can have a bit of resurgence, but you have to temper expectations, especially from fantasy perspective.
00:27:16
Fabio
This guy's not being drafted on my team. But from a real football perspective, there could be something interesting there.
00:27:23
Nacc
Yeah, and I know the Steelers had interest way back when, when that whole saga went through. So I hope it's not an offseason of another wide receiver from San Francisco drama ah all offseason.
00:27:36
Nacc
i was so glad when that was over. um Speaking of wide receivers, though, we've got one premier wide receiver here on potentially on the market. He is um technically...
00:27:48
Nacc
going to be a free agent in a few weeks if he is not tagged so that's um obviously talking about uh Higgins is he worth 30 million dollars Raj are you paying him 30 million dollars are they gonna you see the Bengals paying him to a long-term deal i know there's rumors of they're gonna tag him potentially um and and does a team like the Pats make sense to like go all in on this guy
00:28:16
Roger Emeka
So he's been injury prone the last two years. He started 11 games in 2023, nine games in 2024. Had it a really good year, though. 900 yards, 10 TDs, and was the eighth highest rated wide receiver, according to PFF.
00:28:32
Roger Emeka
So at 30 mil, I'd say he slots into the Waddle, DJ Moore, Devonta Smith range, which I'd be okay with. I would just question the decision from a Bengals standpoint where they need to invest in their defense.
00:28:48
Roger Emeka
And they also already invested in Yoshivas. I know they they drafted Jermaine Burton, who had some off-field issues, but he has a lot of potential.
00:28:59
Roger Emeka
but But Burrow wants to keep all the
Tee Higgins' Worth and Bengals' Choices
00:29:01
Roger Emeka
guys there. So i think I think it makes a lot of sense. But you got to manage that with the rest of their cap situation and all the other needs on defense.
00:29:10
Roger Emeka
And in terms of the Pats, I think if it's not there, it's like the Pats is like the rumor du jour that you've you've been seeing the entire offseason.
00:29:19
Nacc
Yeah, and and and i know yeah I heard you know you mentioned, you alluded to the defense that needs to be addressed. Hendrickson is also a free agent that needs to be paid.
00:29:26
Roger Emeka
Yes. Yes, good.
00:29:27
Fabio
Yeah.
00:29:28
Nacc
NFL sack leader this year, and I'm pretty sure they're going to want to keep him. So it's going to be differently.
00:29:33
Roger Emeka
If I could, like like, how, sorry, how is it that the Bengals had the top passer in terms of touchdowns and yards, the triple crown with winner in wide receiver, the sack leader, and they still missed the playoffs?
00:29:51
Fabio
It's not a lot of depth on that team on defense.
00:29:52
Roger Emeka
Crazy.
00:29:53
Nacc
Yeah, it was one.
00:29:53
Roger Emeka
Crazy.
00:29:54
Fabio
That's, that's,
00:29:54
Nacc
Yeah. I don't i don't even know if they finished, though, top 10 in sacks, even with the sack leader. Like, it all went through him, right? um And he had 19, 18 or 19 sacks this year, which is an unbelievable.
00:30:05
Roger Emeka
eighteen
00:30:07
Fabio
Yeah.
00:30:11
Nacc
What about you, Fab? What do you think happens with Higgins?
00:30:14
Fabio
I mean, I think they should sign him. um More importantly, like Joe Burrow even went on record saying, yeah, the Eagles can sign all these guys. Why can't we? you know So it's like, a I mean, he has a point.
00:30:26
Fabio
um If you could do it with Jamar Chase, I mean, if if you do it with A.J. Brown and you can do it with Devontae Smith, why can't you do it with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase? I mean, you're going to be looking at similar contracts in that sense, the 1A, 1B.
00:30:39
Fabio
You're going to get your top two guys for for a nice chunk of time. um I mean, the the contract that DJ Moore is is in line. Waddle was about 28 and a quarter per year.
00:30:53
Fabio
if it has If inflation comes around and it goes to $30,000, then it goes to $30,000 because the cap is also going to be going up again next year and the year after. So I don't see $30 million dollars being a number that's too big, but I would not want to go beyond that.
00:31:10
Fabio
um Brandon Ayuk, for your $120 million, that that's okay. same year i Same age as well too. Obviously the same production. I get that. But you know you sometimes you have to overpay for these guys too a little bit.
00:31:23
Nacc
Yeah, and you know what? I saw an interesting thing on Twitter today as well is that these top-end wide receivers never hit the market. You go back to 2018, they're either traded or they're extended, basically, by their by their teams.
00:31:33
Fabio
Yep.
00:31:38
Nacc
You have like DJ Moore, he was traded. Calvin Ridley suspended, then traded. Cortland Sutton was extended. 2019, you had Debo Samuel, he was extended. AJ Brown was traded. Metcalf extended. Terry McLaurin extended.
00:31:51
Nacc
twenty twenty 2020, CeeDee Lamb extended. Jefferson extended. Ayuk extended. Tee Higgins expected to be tagged.
00:31:58
Fabio
yeah
00:31:58
Nacc
Pittman was extended. 2021, Jamar Chase. He's probably going to be either obviously tagged or most likely extended. Waddle extended. Smith extended. Nico Collins extended. Amon Ra extended.
00:32:10
Nacc
And then you have the eligible ones this season who will be 2022 classes, um Drake London, Garrett Wilson, Olave, James Williams, Pickens, and Kaleer Shakir.
00:32:14
Roger Emeka
What? Moore?
00:32:20
Nacc
So elite wide receivers never reach free agency. um And out of the top 20 wide receivers entering 2024, 17 of them were drafted by their current team.
00:32:31
Nacc
Two were traded under the current team. So that's AJ Brown and DJ Moore.
00:32:36
Roger Emeka
more
00:32:37
Nacc
And it did on to say that one was a free agent, which was Devante Adams, but I don't think it counts as a free agent. He was tagged and traded to the the Raiders. So if you want an elite wide receiver, you have to draft them.
00:32:50
Nacc
like It's just plain and simple, and then you don't want to lose them. like It's rare that you get these guys free agency. And only if i look, only two of them were traded. So I found that a pretty interesting stat.
00:32:59
Fabio
yeah
00:32:59
Roger Emeka
and
00:33:02
Roger Emeka
And like you have to factor in t Higgins is doing what he's doing with Jamar Chase in front of him. So imagine if on his own team.
00:33:07
Nacc
Yeah, which is wild.
00:33:08
Fabio
Yeah, exactly. That's very true.
00:33:10
Nacc
Yeah. And hey, when when he was playing and Jamar Chase wasn't, he balled out too. So it's not like it's not like he was just there and he was stagnant and that's why the production was coming.
00:33:14
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:33:14
Fabio
A hundred percent. Yeah.
00:33:18
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:33:19
Nacc
But
Sam Darnold's Fate with Minnesota
00:33:20
Roger Emeka
Totally.
00:33:21
Nacc
um another guy who's on the tag and potentially trade discussion is Sam Darnold.
00:33:28
Nacc
Do you think he gets tagged fab or is he just allowed to simply, you know, tag and traded or is he simply allowed to just walk out the building?
00:33:36
Fabio
Yeah, see, this is a tough one because by all accounts, Sam Darnold deserves to be tagged. Yes. But then you look at the situation that Minnesota have right now with J.J. McCarthy waiting in the wings and assuming to be the quarterback for their franchise going forward.
00:33:51
Fabio
So tagging him for one year, it's a $40 million dollars investment, but then you can shake your hands of it and you can be done with it the following year. If you can tag him and trade him and get value for him, because at that price point,
00:34:07
Fabio
Like Sam Darnold, you can win games with him, but you're not going to win games because of him. he has to be in the right environment, and we've seen that already with Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota.
00:34:17
Fabio
has be in the right environment. He has to be within the right situation, with the right players around him and all that stuff. He can win you games, though, right? He's a little bit like Brock Purdy. I know Purdy's going to get $60 million, so I'm not going to say Sam Darnold deserves that, but I feel like it's a little bit like that.
00:34:32
Fabio
I always refer to Roger Purdy. He's not a force multiplier. He's not. But at the same time, i give him the 40 million and trade him. I think that makes sense. I do not think he should be allowed to walk.
00:34:44
Fabio
At the very least, if you can trade him, sign him for the 40 million dollars and then just worry about it next year. But I yeah, I think I think the tag is should be done with Darnold, whether whatever happens after all depends on.
00:34:59
Fabio
all depends, I guess, what's available, what the market is, who's calling the Minnesota Vikings to see what they can get for him. Yeah.
00:35:08
Nacc
What do you think, Raj? Yeah.
00:35:09
Roger Emeka
heyo sea KOC seemed non-committal at the end of those last two games. So I feel like it's done.
00:35:15
Nacc
yeah
00:35:16
Roger Emeka
I feel if you want to move on from him and you want to start the J.G. McCarthy era, you have to have Sam Darnold out of the building because it'll just cause too much controversy. Yeah.
00:35:30
Roger Emeka
So the Vikings have 55 million in cap space. I believe, Naki, you're pretty good with the cap. I believe if they tag him, that cap number counts, regardless whether they trade him, the count number that cap number counts against the cap for that one year, correct?
00:35:44
Roger Emeka
For the Vikings? Yeah. even if they trade yeah Even if they trade him after. Or am I wrong? I don't know.
00:35:44
Nacc
The 40 million to the Vikings.
00:35:50
Nacc
No, I don't, I don't, I don't think that I don't think the team, i don't think, I think that the, the tag is, is, um is different.
00:35:50
Fabio
Mmm, no.
00:35:51
Roger Emeka
not trying to do some research on it. I can really find
00:35:55
Fabio
Wait.
00:35:58
Nacc
um
00:35:59
Roger Emeka
it. Okay.
00:35:59
Nacc
You're just on the hook. Like there's no getting away from the cap. So you're on the hook for $40 million cap to the team he goes to.
00:36:05
Roger Emeka
Exactly. Yes. Yes.
00:36:06
Nacc
So yeah, if, if they trade him away, his whole contract's gone and that all his guarantees are gone and it was only for one year anyway.
00:36:07
Roger Emeka
Okay.
00:36:09
Fabio
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:13
Roger Emeka
And they therefore, to me it's to me, it's a no-brainer. Like, they need to start.
00:36:13
Nacc
So they're,
00:36:16
Nacc
they may They may have some dead cap, but there's no way it's 40.
00:36:19
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:36:21
Nacc
Or else what happened with Devontae Adams, like there was no way Green Bay was taking on all that that garbage.
00:36:24
Roger Emeka
Correct. Yeah, correct.
00:36:26
Fabio
Yeah, exactly.
00:36:27
Roger Emeka
So for
00:36:27
Fabio
yeah Yeah.
00:36:28
Roger Emeka
um so
00:36:28
Fabio
That year the Raiders took on the entirety of the cap for the franchise tag and for the contract that they extended him on.
00:36:34
Roger Emeka
And it's it's actually, it's interesting, most of the tag and trade that have happened has been like defensive players. Like recently, it's mostly like Yannick and Guacue and Frank Clark and Ryan Burns, good call fab, Jadavian Clowney.
00:36:41
Fabio
Yeah.
00:36:43
Fabio
Well, Brian Burns last year, I think, right? Yeah.
00:36:47
Roger Emeka
It hasn't really happened for offensive players, but they have to they have to move on from Darnold. And I think they have to take like have to take a few steps back to take those steps forward with J.J. McCarthy.
00:36:59
Nacc
yep
00:37:01
Nacc
um Another player we've been hearing rumblings that potentially he requested a trade, then he didn't, then he requested a trade, then
Garrett Wilson's Market Comparison
00:37:09
Nacc
he didn't. It was Garrett Wilson. um I want to ask you, Raj, is he worth a first and potentially even a second and possibly more to a team?
00:37:22
Roger Emeka
Yes.
00:37:22
Nacc
like Would you trade that much for a Garrett Wilson?
00:37:25
Roger Emeka
Yes, yes. This this has Stefan Diggs written all over it. Stefan Diggs when he went from the Vikings to the Bills, which he went for a first round and a fifth round. And then more recently, AJ Brown as well. I don't think Garrett Wilson is as good as AJ Brown, but ah Brown went for a first to the Eagles from the Titans and a third round pick.
00:37:46
Roger Emeka
So if you look at Garrett Wilson's first three years with very pedestrian quarterback play, a thousand, thousand, a thousand, hit over a hundred and over a hundred receptions.
00:37:53
Fabio
Yeah.
00:37:57
Roger Emeka
So yeah.
00:37:57
Fabio
Pedestrian's calling it nice, by the way.
00:37:59
Roger Emeka
yeah And like, we we just know how talented of a player he is despite the bad quarterback play. To me, this is a no brainer.
00:38:04
Fabio
Mm-hmm.
00:38:07
Roger Emeka
and and And the wide receiver class this year is fairly mediocre in my... and I wouldn't say mediocre, but it's not... Garrett Wilson would be the first wide receiver taken in this class.
00:38:19
Fabio
Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah, there's like a few guys. I think there's McMillan and there's Emeka, Roger, Mbuka Emeka, who are going to be first round talents.
00:38:24
Roger Emeka
like McMillan. Abuka. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:29
Fabio
But apart from that, yeah, I agree with you.
00:38:29
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:38:31
Fabio
He's definitely worth the first round pick. The Stefan Diggs comp is perfect.
00:38:35
Nacc
Thank you.
00:38:35
Fabio
But I've been hearing that the Jets are apparently rumored to be an option for Justin Fields. That way they can pair the former quarterback for teammates, Garrett Wilson and Justin Fields together.
00:38:43
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:38:48
Fabio
It's a rumor. I don't know how it's going to happen, but it'd be interesting if they put that together. And it could also, you know, could make Garrett Wilson happy. He starts to play again with his little buddy for the first two years of his career at Ohio state.
00:39:03
Nacc
that would be something I could, I mean, I can see that. I can see that happening. I thought like such a it's not a far fetch move. and And I guess it's a, it's a way of keeping a ride receiver on your roster that potentially wanted to leave.
00:39:09
Fabio
No.
00:39:09
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:39:09
Fabio
No.
00:39:15
Nacc
I think Aaron Rogers leaving is probably a good thing for Garrett Wilson.
00:39:16
Fabio
Yeah.
00:39:20
Nacc
Maybe he kind of slows down the trading, the training stuff, but, uh,
00:39:21
Fabio
Yeah.
00:39:25
Nacc
Yeah, i know. I think I tend to agree. I think i think he could easily go for um almost two first round picks and and you you you do it a talent like that and how young he is.
00:39:26
Fabio
that
00:39:33
Nacc
so
00:39:34
Fabio
and And you think about it, Garrett Wilson, like Roger mentioned, right? He was on a pretty pretty decent projection already. And last year, like it was a mess for the Jets. like Rogers brought all of his buddies in. He brought Devontae Adams in. He brought Adam Lazard in. you know All these guys that were basically eating into whatever production Garrett Wilson could be having.
00:39:53
Fabio
So you would imagine the year he would have had if he was really the focal point of that offense like he was expected to be, right?
00:39:57
Roger Emeka
Mm-hmm.
00:39:59
Fabio
Because he can do it. You've seen the talent that's there. So this could be – if he is traded – Yeah, he's worst. it's It's a first round pick and it's a bargain at that price because this guy's going to be a stud.
00:40:13
Fabio
Stud.
00:40:16
Nacc
I tend to agree, and i think we just mentioned his soon-to-be former teammate, um Aaron Rodgers.
Will Aaron Rodgers Retire?
00:40:25
Nacc
The Jets have informed him that they are moving on.
00:40:28
Nacc
It's going to be a post-June ah first release, but he will be a free agent as of the new league year and eligible to sign wherever he wants.
00:40:39
Nacc
um Fab, does Rodgers call it a career, or does he have one last dance somewhere?
00:40:40
Roger Emeka
you
00:40:47
Fabio
I think he has and think he's capable have one last dance or even two. I don't think it's out of the question. Listen, he still threw for like 4,000 yards last year, and he had a decent season towards the end. He really turned it on. So I think there is still some some gas in the tank.
00:41:04
Fabio
My problem is is that, ah again, I just mentioned it before, like you saw the circus that came with him, right? You saw the... the The GM was going against head coach. The head coach was fired and all that stuff. And then they basically just circled back and hired another defensive coordinator as a head coach, which again, I like to hire. Don't get me wrong.
00:41:20
Fabio
But you were do you want to deal with that headache?
00:41:21
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:41:26
Fabio
i don't like I don't know. Honestly speaking, like we're he might be forced to retire just because all the teams that want a quarterback don't want the headache that comes with it for hiring for having Aaron Rodgers there. So that that's my thing.
00:41:37
Fabio
But I do still think he has football left in him. I just, I don't know you know, there's the juice worth the squeeze when it comes to Aaron Rodgers. I have no idea.
00:41:50
Nacc
It's funny because I heard kind of rumors that like if Matt Stafford leaves, then like Rogers goes there for a year, finishes it off in l LA.
00:41:57
Fabio
Yeah.
00:41:58
Nacc
There was, there was rumors of that going on, ah which is, which is funny to me.
00:41:58
Fabio
Yeah, he's an LA boy. It makes sense. Or Californian.
00:42:05
Nacc
um I don't know.
00:42:06
Roger Emeka
That won't work.
00:42:06
Nacc
I feel like, i feel like, no, probably not, but I feel like a team, like maybe the Raiders make sense. Uh, I just, like you said, it's, it's just, it's a lot of baggage and a lot of,
00:42:18
Nacc
like media circus. The media loves to eat into to Aaron Rodgers. And then like, we're going to get the band back together. going to get Duante Adams to come back to Vegas. Like, i don't know Vegas is going to welcome up him with open arms.
00:42:33
Nacc
Fabulous. I'm going add.
00:42:34
Fabio
i just want to say I was thinking, Rog, I was thinking about what would happen if Aaron Rodgers would come to the Giants. And diduc do you imagine Brian Dable on the sidelines like just ripping into Aaron Rodgers, just chewing him out?
00:42:43
Roger Emeka
good
00:42:48
Roger Emeka
i might i might hope for hate to say it i I might hope for another Achilles
00:42:48
Fabio
Aaron, you have to make that pass.
00:42:53
Fabio
Wow.
00:42:54
Nacc
Oh my gosh.
00:42:54
Fabio
Wow.
00:42:55
Nacc
Oh my God.
00:42:57
Roger Emeka
so i I think he has it he has a year year left. There's no way he's retiring like this. I think either Nashville, nash Tennessee, because apparently he has land there.
00:43:09
Roger Emeka
like the most like random Like the most random thing he has.
00:43:09
Nacc
There's no way he goes to Tennessee. There's no one there, but there's no one there.
00:43:14
Roger Emeka
And then the other one is I kept i kept saying out at the Super Bowl, night Pittsburgh makes a ton of sense. I think Pittsburgh makes so much sense.
00:43:20
Nacc
oh man, everyone everyone everyone does not want him there, but you just keep hearing...
00:43:22
Roger Emeka
Because everyone
00:43:25
Nacc
Well, the whole fan base does not want does not want him there.
00:43:25
Fabio
Yeah.
00:43:27
Roger Emeka
Really?
00:43:28
Nacc
Yeah, man. i don't know if I want... Look, and I've been like...
00:43:33
Roger Emeka
but the winks he got he's got the winks with ah with Mike
00:43:33
Nacc
the Aaron Rogers guy in our, in our, in our, in our chat, but that's what it is. Like they both have respect for each other. They both, whatever. But then it's like, again, it starts with like, what are you bringing with you? And who do we have to get? And who do we like, we have to go get Randall Cobb. Like we're not signing Randall Cobb, you know?
00:43:50
Nacc
Um, does Nathaniel Hackett be part the coaching staff?
00:43:52
Roger Emeka
Mike Williams is there, so Mike Williams is not going to go there.
00:43:54
Nacc
Like, well, Mike Williams is a fruit mike william is a free agent, so he's probably not back, but, ah man, I don't know.
00:43:56
Fabio
Ha, ha, ha.
00:43:58
Roger Emeka
Okay.
00:44:01
Nacc
Like, it just, it's it's it's a lot with him, right? And... and the problem is, is like Tomlin has been known as like the players coach and like, he's been known to not discipline players. Right. So it's just like, he's going to come in there, maybe run the show and this, like, but I like to see it.
00:44:17
Nacc
Sure. Why not? It'd be fun to get like cheer Aaron Rogers on. Like I, I, you guys know, I'm, I love Aaron Rogers. I love all of that, that stuff. I think it's just the media that kind of runs with stupid stories sometimes.
00:44:28
Nacc
Um, obviously a bit of it is him as well. He's just like that guy, but, um, it,
00:44:32
Fabio
I mean, how many players have a Netflix special made about them during the regular season?
00:44:37
Nacc
It was really good. It was actually really good.
00:44:39
Fabio
I'm not saying it's... haven't watched don't know if it's good or bad. I'm just saying it's...
00:44:42
Roger Emeka
What is ayahuasca?
00:44:42
Nacc
It was good.
00:44:43
Fabio
It's...
00:44:43
Roger Emeka
What is ayahuasca? Do you sniff it? Do you drink it? It's
00:44:46
Nacc
I think it's ah it's ah it's a drink.
00:44:48
Roger Emeka
a drink.
00:44:49
Nacc
Yeah.
00:44:49
Roger Emeka
ah You said it perfectly.
00:44:50
Fabio
Neck is the resident Aaron Rodgers connoisseur.
00:44:51
Roger Emeka
he's He's a lot. You know how sometimes you...
00:44:53
Nacc
He is a lot.
00:44:54
Roger Emeka
You know how you...
00:44:54
Nacc
That's perfect way to describe it.
00:44:54
Fabio
Yeah, he is.
00:44:56
Nacc
He's a lot.
00:44:56
Roger Emeka
There's people you're just like...
00:44:56
Fabio
Yeah.
00:44:58
Roger Emeka
you just You're a lot. like You are a lot.
00:45:00
Fabio
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:01
Nacc
But to look. Okay.
00:45:02
Fabio
yeah we We have a few of those guys in our friends group.
00:45:02
Nacc
But.
00:45:04
Fabio
yeah
00:45:04
Nacc
but But truth be told, if you tell me tomorrow that, The Steelers sign Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams comes with him paired with George Pickens.
00:45:13
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:45:14
Nacc
I'm like, sign me up. Like I will do a year of that. I don't care about any circus.
00:45:17
Fabio
For sure.
00:45:19
Nacc
Sign me up. I'm going to go to as many games as I possibly can.
00:45:22
Fabio
For sure.
00:45:24
Nacc
And I want to watch that. Like that's for me, must see TV as a fan. Like I don't care about whatever it is. And then you draft a Q and look, if it burns, Hey, you have a high draft pick and you hopefully get Manning next year.
00:45:36
Nacc
You know?
00:45:36
Roger Emeka
and And who's the best coach to handle that type of circus?
00:45:39
Nacc
Mike Tomlin. He's, well, look, he kept, how long did he keep AB under wraps and all that stuff with Bell and, and, and like,
00:45:46
Fabio
ah yeah He has a lot of experience when it comes to circuses.
00:45:48
Roger Emeka
He kept Big Ben under wraps, literally and figuratively.
00:45:52
Fabio
Oh boy. Oh boy.
00:45:54
Nacc
yeah, yeah.
00:45:55
Fabio
Oh boy.
00:45:56
Nacc
yeah
00:45:57
Roger Emeka
tried to. Yeah.
00:45:59
Nacc
He tried to, he tried to, he wasn't very, wasn't very successful, but I mean, look, he did, he did keep a lot of players in the wrap. So he,
00:46:04
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:46:04
Fabio
He did his best.
00:46:05
Nacc
Is it a good situation? i don't know if it's the best, but i would that if he came with Devontae Adams, which obviously it was the next player on our list, basically saying, would devant will Adams follow Aaron Rodgers wherever he goes, or does he go to a situation where he potentially could win a Super Bowl?
00:46:22
Roger Emeka
Chargers.
00:46:24
Nacc
Devontae?
00:46:24
Roger Emeka
chart Chargers makes the most sense. And I thought I read somewhere that he wants to go back to the West Coast because he's ah he's an LA guy as well. He's a West Coast guy.
00:46:33
Fabio
Yeah.
00:46:34
Roger Emeka
mix Imagine him with Ladd McConkie, Justin Herbert.
00:46:37
Fabio
I like that, actually.
00:46:39
Roger Emeka
Finally, find no more excuses for Justin Herbert.
00:46:42
Nacc
I feel like there'd be so many good fits for an alpha like that.
00:46:42
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Packers.
00:46:44
Nacc
You know, like, so many teams need that, like, that legit veteran alpha guy.
00:46:45
Fabio
Yeah.
00:46:49
Nacc
And, like, dude, he still had a great year.
00:46:49
Roger Emeka
Packers.
00:46:51
Nacc
And when they turned it on at the end of the year, like, it looked great.
00:46:53
Fabio
Yeah, he was killing it.
00:46:54
Nacc
Him and Rodgers looked great.
00:46:55
Fabio
He was killing it. Yeah.
00:46:56
Nacc
um He still got juice in the tank. So, I'd just i'd just be funny to, I want to wonder if where he goes, you know, if he goes to whatever.
00:47:04
Fabio
But I like that.
00:47:04
Nacc
But.
00:47:04
Fabio
I like the Chargers with the good coaching situation there and Justin Herbert can sling it. I like that a lot. That makes that that makes a ton of sense.
00:47:11
Nacc
Yeah, I do like that too. And then to finish it off, we have good old Ohio State boy, Justin Fields.
Justin Fields' Potential Teams
00:47:20
Nacc
Are the Steelers going to re-sign this guy? and Or does maybe the Giants or the Raiders make sense as a short-term deal while they potentially draft their QB of the future?
00:47:30
Roger Emeka
Everyone to Reading.
00:47:32
Nacc
Fab?
00:47:33
Fabio
I mean, the Steelers should sign him. Like, it's not as if he played poorly when he was the starter for those six games. He went, what, four and two, right? Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
00:47:41
Nacc
Yeah.
00:47:42
Fabio
So, I mean, he went four and two, throwing it to George Pickens, that's about it.
00:47:42
Nacc
Yeah.
00:47:47
Fabio
You know what i mean? Like, they' it's not as if they have a ah bevy of offensive products around him. um Yeah, fine, they have two good running backs. I'm not going to knock them. But apart from that, like, it's...
00:47:57
Fabio
So, yeah, I mean, give Justin Fields a little bit of credit on that.
00:47:57
Roger Emeka
everyone good to running
00:48:00
Fabio
So,
00:48:01
Nacc
Raj hates Harris.
00:48:03
Fabio
I mean, they're serviceable running backs. That's where I'm going to leave it at, okay?
00:48:08
Roger Emeka
or in the script.
00:48:08
Fabio
But they're serviceable running backs. and that's But at the same time, like I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't. like They need a young quarterback now. They're never going to be they're never goingnna be getting one where they're drafting 21st every single year.
00:48:20
Fabio
So see what you have with Justin Fields. Sign him for what? but What would you sign him for? You sign him for...
00:48:26
Nacc
The market value right now, um what was I reading? Was one year, 6.4 million. That is apparently market value for Justin Fields at the moment.
00:48:35
Roger Emeka
exactly was gonna say that i was gonna say the darn old deal like 110 last year yeah yeah
00:48:36
Fabio
Perfect.
00:48:39
Fabio
Fantastic.
00:48:40
Nacc
That would be the max. I would not sign him for more than that.
00:48:43
Fabio
Fantastic. That's pennies on the dollar.
00:48:44
Nacc
like a but a team But a team with bigger caps.
00:48:44
Fabio
Fantastic.
00:48:47
Nacc
don't know what what the Giants or or Raiders or Jets have in terms of cap space, but...
00:48:51
Fabio
Giants have decent cap space.
00:48:52
Nacc
he he's
00:48:53
Fabio
Giants can take a run.
00:48:53
Nacc
He's been heard.
00:48:54
Fabio
but
00:48:54
Nacc
it's been like When you read some articles, it's he's he's he wants wants to go somewhere where there's a clear path for him start the full year.
00:49:05
Fabio
Yeah.
00:49:05
Nacc
So wherever he goes, he wants to be assured you're the starter. Unless it's an injury, you're starting. So...
00:49:12
Fabio
So,
00:49:13
Nacc
To me, this is the path, like you said, Fab, that I would choose for the Steelers.
00:49:17
Fabio
yeah.
00:49:17
Nacc
if If, for whatever reason, he plays a whole year and this guy finds himself and they have their QB of the future, fantastic. And if he crashes and burns, maybe they draft, or they pick Ben at 11.
00:49:30
Nacc
eleven Maybe they draft, they get to a top 10 pick, they move up, they draft Manning potentially the next year. like That's how it happened for when they did it with Ben Roethlisberger. I read through a huge, huge list of of of players that they could have drafted in draft classes where they said, no, we're going to stick to the status quo. going to pick our players around him.
00:49:52
Nacc
And then they finally burned out with ah was it Tommy Maddox and drafted Ben. And then obviously the rest is history.
00:49:59
Fabio
Tommy Maddox.
00:50:00
Roger Emeka
dude the the 2026 draft class is nuts like there's manning there's ima ima livea from tennessee drew aller that could be interesting penn state uh to pittsburgh so you don't like aller yeah he's
00:50:01
Nacc
Raj?
00:50:12
Nacc
I don't like that one. I'm not a big fan of Valor, to be honest, but the no.
00:50:17
Fabio
Give him another year. Wait and see.
00:50:20
Nacc
Again, to go with like this the pence Penn State, the the guy, the pen you know the Pennsylvania guy, like I'm scared.
00:50:23
Roger Emeka
Yeah, that's true. but Penn State QBs have had um been ah that disaster.
00:50:26
Nacc
I'm scared.
00:50:28
Roger Emeka
But just it just feels like field he just feels like he's rumored to every team now.
00:50:29
Nacc
Brutal. Brutal.
00:50:33
Roger Emeka
um I think he deserves a chance to start.
00:50:34
Fabio
Well, every team that needs a quarterback, yeah.
00:50:36
Roger Emeka
Yeah, but like literally every team, even teams that don't don't need a quarterback. um But this to this is his last chance to be like ah try to be a full-time starter. If it doesn't work out... go ahead and be a spot starter like a career backup i think he's gonna be a very fine backup uh but i think that that place i agree it has to be the stealers
00:50:55
Nacc
But I think it just made they made a mistake last year. They tried something, but they made a mistake signing Fields and or trading for Fields and signing Wilson.
00:50:58
Roger Emeka
yes
00:51:03
Nacc
It was just like two kind of guys that wanted to be the first. They thought it was going to be competition.
00:51:07
Fabio
See, that I disagree with.
00:51:10
Nacc
it just it wasn't a competition. was never a competition. If Wilson was healthy, he would have started week one.
00:51:14
Fabio
No, but but I don't think they made a mistake with signing both those quarterbacks because the fact that Russell wasn't able to play in the first few games of the season obviously helped him look a lot better because you were able to see what you had in two guys.
00:51:27
Fabio
on the very cheap. They basically had a whole entire season to test them both out and see what they're going to do with them and see that decide what direction they could go in in the future, whether it's going to be Russell Wilson or Justin Fields.
00:51:38
Fabio
Now, they sort of made that decision knowing that they're not going to bring Russell, most likely. So, it sign Fields. Like, he's younger. He's much more capable. He gets you out of jams. it's It's there.
00:51:49
Roger Emeka
It
00:51:50
Fabio
And like, NAC, what you said. Why are we talking so much about the Steelers? and like if we if If they crash and burn, then they pick up then they pick a top NQB the next year.
00:51:54
Roger Emeka
you know always comes down to it.
00:51:59
Fabio
i They can't do another...
00:51:59
Roger Emeka
It's...
00:52:01
Nacc
it's the only I think it's the only way.
00:52:02
Fabio
They can't have another nine-win season.
00:52:03
Roger Emeka
Look.
00:52:05
Fabio
That's what they can't do. They gotta have three wins or they gotta have 14.
00:52:09
Roger Emeka
like You sound like Mike Greenberg and Chris Russo.
00:52:09
Fabio
That's it. Nothing in between.
00:52:13
Fabio
them off the hook.
00:52:14
Roger Emeka
They got off three wins.
00:52:15
Nacc
like it so he sounds like a politician right now.
00:52:18
Roger Emeka
We saw like three wins.
00:52:18
Fabio
They got...
00:52:19
Roger Emeka
ah no Fab, it was a mistake last year because I guarantee you, I'm sure Knack and all other Steelers fans, once the clock hits zero in that wild card round, they're like, god damn it, why didn't we just start field the entire season so we could freaking see what we had to make our decision easier?
00:52:35
Nacc
That's what I'm saying in terms of of of a season of of of seeing and scouting a team as a player.
00:52:36
Roger Emeka
Like, it's a waste. It's
00:52:42
Nacc
Now you have to do it all over again because he only played six games, which any, bro, in six games, he had 10 total touchdowns, only one interception.
00:52:44
Roger Emeka
waste.
00:52:50
Nacc
i think he had a lost fumble, but his stats were decent.
00:52:50
Fabio
Yeah.
00:52:54
Nacc
um You just have to see what it was like for a whole season. And he could have done that. last year but now you're going have to do it potentially again this year but like i said either he you know he finds his game and he becomes a top quarterback that everyone thought he was going to be or they bought him out and they draft a high uh qb next year but nothing you don't think the giants uh potentially take a shot raiders jets i don't mention the jets before but
00:53:13
Roger Emeka
you
00:53:23
Fabio
maybe Maybe the Giants take a shot, but if Fields wants to go somewhere where he's going to start, he's not going to go to the Giants if the Giants are expected to pick a quarterback with a third overall pick.
00:53:35
Fabio
right that that's That's another thing.
00:53:36
Nacc
I assume that would be discussed, yeah.
00:53:38
Fabio
yeah cause it's Or else like you're just negotiating in bad faith. true.
00:53:43
Fabio
like we we can
00:53:43
Nacc
Well, Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins Penix.
00:53:47
Roger Emeka
True.
00:53:48
Fabio
yeah that's true
00:53:48
Roger Emeka
Mind you, like there's a different yeah but like there's an age gap. It was very clear what they saw Penix and knowing how old Cousins was.
00:53:52
Nacc
Yes.
00:53:55
Fabio
Yeah, and also, and Kirk hasn't got that contract.
00:53:59
Roger Emeka
Yeah. but Raiders could be interesting.
00:54:00
Nacc
Brutal.
00:54:01
Roger Emeka
Again, the the same thing as we said about Russell Wilson, Chip Kelly, ah Fields, mobile quarterback, RPOs, read option. But AOC is there, and I think AOC, if they're not somehow not going to go for a QB in the draft, AOC, I think, like to my opinion in my opinion, played well enough to warrant another look.
00:54:21
Roger Emeka
But again, it's the same thing. And that's why, and that's why, no, but look, that's why Antonio Pierce is not there because, because it's like, that's the, those are types of years where like Gardner Minshew should not be starting.
00:54:25
Nacc
I don't like it.
00:54:31
Roger Emeka
If you have a young player, you're not going to go anywhere Gardner Minshew.
00:54:31
Nacc
No.
00:54:32
Fabio
No.
00:54:34
Roger Emeka
Take the year to evaluate the quarterback position in your roster.
00:54:39
Nacc
I agree.
00:54:39
Roger Emeka
See how AOT is. Because now you're not sure. And he looked good. He looked good against KC. He looked good in in quite a few games, man.
00:54:45
Fabio
He did.
00:54:47
Roger Emeka
Like, I don't, I don't think he's a bad player.
00:54:48
Fabio
you did.
00:54:52
Nacc
He's just...
00:54:53
Fabio
or a paul or Or a politician.
00:54:54
Roger Emeka
he's just he's just aoc he's just too aoc the pack
00:54:56
Nacc
He's just AOC. Yeah, he's just AOC.
00:54:59
Fabio
He's middle of the pack. That's what he is. like he's he's not You're not excited about it, but you're not like, like oh my God, it's Daniel Jones. you know like it's i was I was getting very fired up.
00:55:08
Roger Emeka
can you just do the pot can you just need to do the podcast in your mike greenberg chris russo voice please
00:55:15
Fabio
You need three wins or 14. Nothing in between. Nothing in between. It's enough of this garbage Mike Tomlin. You take their Mike Tomlinsons and you get out of here.
00:55:26
Roger Emeka
It's so good.
00:55:26
Nacc
Tomlisms. Tomlisms.
00:55:27
Fabio
Whatever.
00:55:29
Nacc
Well, that about wraps it up for another edition of the Bush League Huddle Fantasy Football Podcast. Thank you so much for listening, guys. As always, please follow us on all the social media platforms, the TikToks, the Instagrams.
00:55:42
Nacc
ah Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, everywhere anywhere you get your your podcasts. And um as I mentioned before, Football is over for this year, but the show must go on, and these will keep going as we head into the Combine and the draft.
00:56:01
Nacc
We've got some good stuff coming, so keep it locked in.
00:56:03
Fabio
Yeah.
00:56:05
Nacc
Raj, cue the music, baby.
00:56:12
Roger Emeka
Sometimes the Mondays are not bad because it's just done for the week. I find mondays Mondays off-season is good.
00:56:16
Fabio
My news are fine.
00:56:17
Nacc
sometimes.
00:56:19
Roger Emeka
Mondays in-season sucks.
00:56:19
Fabio
Yeah. It's bad.
00:56:21
Nacc
Yeah, was a little bad, yeah.
00:56:21
Fabio
Yeah, i agree.
00:56:23
Nacc
little bad, yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
00:56:26
Fabio
All right, everyone. Peace out.
00:56:28
Roger Emeka
Good night, guys.
00:56:29
Nacc
Goodbye!