Introduction and Sponsorship
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Meet the Hosts: Marty, Nick, Casey, and Eric
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um Hello everyone! welcome Back to Fire Lake Podcast. This is episode number 24 for Wednesday, ah June 5th, 2024. My name is Marty Sliva. I am joined by Nick Calandra, Casey Wosu, and our producer, Eric, who Eric, I've told you a thousand times. When you say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm i'm just, I'm just going through, which sounds terrible out of context. I just meant just. um'm I'm rolling through, Eric. you got You work on your stuff. If they can't hear me, they'll eventually hear me. It's fine. It's fine. They know what I say in the beginning of the show. Welcome, everyone. It is so great to have you all here for the 24th episode of our inaugural Firelink podcast.
Anticipation for Summer Game Fest
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We have a wonderful show for y'all today. um We are going to be chatting about Summer Game Fest. It's upon us, almost pre-upon us.
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so for you on I'm going to say it's upon us. I'm going to say last week's Sony showcase ah ah was the beginning of it. being yeah yeah That was it being upon us, and now it's upon us. And it's going to be up upon us for the next five or six days. We're very excited. We got a bunch of indie showcases starting tomorrow and and Saturday. Friday is going to be the big summer game fest. Bonanza, Devolver Digital. um ah Day of the Dev, Sunday's gonna be the big Xbox showcase. Is this the year or do we have to wait one more year? Who knows? yeah Monday will be Ubisoft, there's been some scuttlebutt, maybe Tuesday's Nintendo, but they haven't said anything. Nintendo's being coy. Classic coy Miyamoto, as his friends all call him.
Inside the Sony Showcase Leaks
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we're gonna be chatting about that predictions hopes fears and As well as a couple new stories that kind of relate to it including you know The it was a week ago today that the Sony showcase happened. We were doing our giant charity stream all day So we didn't do a live reaction to that We can see if we have any lingering thoughts on some of the stuff we've announced there and also a couple reports came out about how leaks are happen at these things. Like before Sony, like 12 hours before Sony, just and the whole run of show leaked. It's like, how did that happen? We know how I know. You know who we could blame? YouTube. John Google. Google as usual. has good How are you guys doing? Not bad. I'm ready for it to be winter again.
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heard container winner yeah i don't like I don't like summer. Summer's too hot. Anything above like 77, too hot. Agreed. I'm kind of there with you. Strong agree. I don't want winter, though. Winter's like... we didn't know We hardly even got any snow this year, so... Yeah. That's true, but I'm okay with that. You need to do a little fall there. Fall like mid-fall. A nice, healthy autumn. Mid-fall. midfall Like 50s, 60s, perfect weather for anything. There you go. Well, you know what's too bad. There's no such thing called the fall game fest. There's only a summer game fest. our Lord and city of Jeff Geely. Look, we're we're in a position where I think we could maybe change this.
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No, the games come out in fall. We're too busy. We can't do a fest. There's too many fests. Yes. Too many fests out there. Second wind fest in the fall. Dude, absolutely not. I'm taking no part 20. Look, it'll be so easy because like you said, no games are coming out, so. We'll just cover like two or three things. It'll be fine.
Support and Merchandise Promos
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ah And thank you all so much for being here, for for supporting us on places like Patreon via our our Incredible Shark Robot merch store, which we have a bunch of exciting new stuff on, and via things like Superchats. And our first one from producer Eric, want to play some golf, Nick. And then a sad face. why it was Is there a golf goof I missed? It's a happy face.
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Oh, it's like a mission of his face. No, it's an evil face. Yeah. Yeah. Mischievous. Was that golf? Did you bat a golf? I'm refunding that and banning him. Oh, I was. At his fifth super chat of all super chats. Why does he keep giving a fifth super chat? Like he's super chatted more than five times. He's gaming the system. john john You know what? Google's broken. again google's broken It's up to all these leaks. where yeah right You're gonna get right in it. there's There's not enough time for the spoofs and goofs.
The Mechanics of Leaks
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We can need the spoofs and the goofs inside of the topics because we got big topics. Let's talk about those little leaks. Let's talk about John Google. 404 media, and then followed by a ah report from insider gaming, talks about how, like I mentioned earlier, ah
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The entire Sony state of play run a show last week, leaked 12 hours, 18 hours beforehand. And it seems like more and more, people are just like, oh, this thing's popping up tomorrow. And everyone just know, and they're like, oh, what's going on here? They're like insiders, what's going on? And the, uh, so it turns out that for years, For like the better part of a decade, Google has had kind of massive breaches ah in the YouTube backend, and it's less like nefarious people hacking into it, and jesus and more of ah actual YouTube employees, like there's hundreds if not thousands of people who have access to the YouTube backend, and so companies put up their
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um but Put their video we we put videos in private mode that no one can see, you know hours days in advance and so these things exist in the YouTube cloud and ah These people can have access to it. They can look at it. And then now apparently people are selling this information putting to that insider gaming thing they sold the ah the offered to sell the run a show on For three figures, which to me just seems really sad. Like, don't lose your job over three figures! That's $999 max!
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That makes me wonder like this can't be like proper in-house Google staff, right? This must be like outsourced Google staff, like maybe even outside of the country, back end workers who would yeah be like, all right, well, I'm not getting paid enough doing this. I might as well exploit this access I have and make some money on the side to make ends meet or whatever reasons they personally have. But it makes me seem like this can't be like proper Google because they get paid a lot of money. But maybe it's about the thrill. The money's just a little cherry on top of the thrill. Yeah, I mean, could just it could just be somewhere that wants to be famous for to have their moment of fame for leaking stuff.
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yeah I get bummed by leaks like this that are like right at the 25th hour before a thing. Like,
Pre-Event Leak Anxieties
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if the Summer Game Fest lineup leaked for Friday, that'd be a bummer, because I'm like, it's right there. Yeah, we were all getting ready to watch it, and then it basically spoiled for you. Yeah. It's like different if something leaks like, oh, we got a report that the Halo's being rebooted. Like, that's like an interesting thing. But if it's like, this thing's having tomorrow, don't tell. You don't have to tell us. This will all know tomorrow. What is knowing 24 hours in advance going to really do? It's the yeah the click the click game get a lot of clicks for leaks Clickies clickies and leakies Ruben fish have an award show for the best leakers and call it the clickies or the leakies
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but clickies are the like best best click pay headlines right ooh you got us the click it yeah i You know what? Yeah. yeah i It's true. i did I would not believe what this child star looks like now. I would not believe that. And Ruben, thank you so much for the $2.99 Australian don't know. Following up, what leaky showcase happens at a certain age. Remember certain age? Showcases start leaking. um i hope the I hope the stuff this weekend doesn't leak, because I'm i'm excited. i been I've been spending the last couple weeks going back and rewatching a bunch of old old showcases from 2004 to 2009. And let me tell you, I think we're in a golden era of showcase, because some of those old ones, hachi machi were bad. Oh my gosh, they were bad. like As much as I love Nintendo, not good at putting on a showcase. Like they were not.
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well During that era like the last one I watched the one more thing was a 20-minute Wii music demo no god Which had that Rafi drums guy the guy went And it's like the whole thing like they're they're catered towards like the people Stocking what what things are gonna be at the front of a Walmart and they're catering towards like mommy bloggers and catering towards ah Like the today show and stuff so when anyone says these new ones are bad. I'm like you don't know I Like, you haven't lived where I lived. Yeah. ah That being said, ah that stretch, Xbox, absolutely crushing it. Like, Xbox 2007, it was just like, here's years here's Gears of War, here's ah Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, here's the Orange Box, here's Mass Effect, here's Assassin's Creed. Like, it was nuts. Damn. You guys are got off the chain. will it Will they be back to fighting for them this year? Or do they just need one more year?
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I really I miss Sony's like actual E3 showcases because they would do like the live music for God of War and and that era Sony was really good like the PS4 era they were really good yeah the God of War one was was obviously notoriously awesome especially with not knowing what the game was until that was the last one sort of the Kratos reveal didn't people complain about their live music goes to sashima joint A bunch of weirs complained. He's like a world-renowned flutist, flautist. A flautist that big is half- Yeah, world-renowned flauta on stage. their new other way Yeah, their new state of plays and all that aren't even exciting, like Nintendo Directs were. Yeah, I mean, that's ah it's it's that's less... ah
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the format's fault and more of just like the contents, right? So yeah, we had the state of play last week um and it feels like it kind of dropped with like there wasn't a lot of fanfare excitement around it. I feel like the most talked about games, um two were in a positive light and two were in a negative light and those were, the negative ones were Concord and I would say Silent Hill 2 Remake and the positive ones I would say are Astro Bot and Monster Hunter Wilds. um So I guess starting at Concord, did you guys have any any thoughts
First Thoughts on Concord
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on that? I actually liked the cinematic trailer. Yeah, I kind of. If anything, it's maybe too little too late, but it looks like everything people who want a kind of five to five hero shooter PVP thing would want, like it looks like really high quality overwatch. And like and we don't have that anymore. Like what to is not high quality overwatch. ah So I don't know. Maybe this will appeal to those folks who have been sliding over with like left. But the fact that it's kind of
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It's going to be exclusive on PS5 for console. Yeah, I know it's on PC, but like. I'm I don't know. i' Yeah, I don't know how I feel about Concord like. ah There's nothing in the gameplay trailer that, like, said this is unique, but... And and I tweeted my thoughts on that, too. It was like, you know, that if this was supposed to sell me on the game, it just looks like many other games that exist right now. ah But, that being said, you know, like, if it's good, it's good. I guess, you know, it's just people got to get their hands on it, and and it looks like Sony's treating it as a premium product, too, and it's not a free-to-play game. Which...
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I think some of the things that it was going to much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think. No. Is that right? I remember i don't think it was the original, the original overwatch was definitely $60.
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I don't know why. history History didn't, they didn't keep records back then. there' There's no way to know. Yeah, it is. So this is by a New Studio Firewalk, which is comprised of a lot of folks who worked in the space, like a lot of leads from Bungie. you know, from the Halo Days on to the early Destiny Days. So, like, it feels like at the very least the gunplay is going to be good, the moment-to-moment action is going to be good. um has a very the The cinematic trailer had a very Guardians of the Galaxy clearly inspired yeah vibe, a little bit of Firefly. um Yeah, that stuff was interesting to me, and then that but then being like, oh, every week we're going to drop a little new story, bit and you and your friends will keep doing these 5v5 matches. Like, I just don't...
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I just feel like 9 out of 10 of these that launch are going to have a hard time finding a foothold, especially this was in the same showcase that we had the Marvel Rivals coming to consoles immediately afterwards, so it seems like both are doing you know similar things. Wasn't there also the leak of Valve's Deadlock, which is another Overwatch-esque game? like is it Is it that once Overwatch reached a fever pitch all of these things got into development are only just now coming out like is that what happened? I mean, honestly, it sounds like and also the best thing you were both right and you were both wrong There was a $40 into $60 version It was funny that I bought the console once so i I must have paid $60 for it. So that's very to me That's really funny Yeah Concord
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Yeah, I think I think these games just hit big if they're fun. Like, I think that's really it all needs to be. ah it But the trailer, the trailer, like even the game modes like didn't really it didn't speak to me about what this is or anything. Just a 5v5 objective based game. And like I said, but you know what it is like this Overwatch. ah I guess. I guess of every hero she just overwatch her. I mean, but of the of the ones that we've seen come after, which I can't even I can't even think of what other ones are yet. Like, have they done anything that drastic from that formula? Like.
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not really, right? Like paladins is overwatch for the beta overwatch basically. And yeah, it's more of that. Yeah. I mean, extra fine. It just came out another, another technically hero shooter. Yeah. It's interesting that yeah stuff like, ah The Last of Us factions got put on ice because they said it just like wasn't up to a quality bar. And it's interesting that apparently this was. And so that's not like a judgment call on it, but it's just maybe there's something here that we're seeing that we that we're not seeing yet that um really does separate it from your just traditional um hero shooters. But um yeah, I'm sure we'll we'll we'll see more of that. They didn't date it, so I assume that's and it's a next year thing. Maybe it's a fall thing. No, they did date it.
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Never mind, they dated it. I was wrong. I'm going to be honest. As soon as the gameplay started in the trailer, I'm walking it. Oh, yeah, it's coming later this summer. They're like early August. Yeah, there you go. Never mind. They're going on a lot of dates with Concord. Congrats, Concord. Going on a lot of dates. And then the other game that kind of got a negative reaction with Silent Hill 2 remake, which Konami then followed up the thing with a full Silent Hill transmission where they showed off a bunch of the game.
Debating Silent Hill 2 Remake's Faithfulness
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um It feels like the developers, uh, which is funny because it's similarly, I would say to the first Silent Hill movie, they understand the aesthetic of Silent Hill 2 and it looks like aesthetically, visually looks pretty spooky. I do not think they understand Silent Hill 2 thematically. And it seems like the changes they were making, uh,
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Just do not vibe with what Silent Hill 2's themes are. So I'm going to be curious playing this if it's going to be one of those. If I turn my brain off and pretend Silent Hill 2 is a thing, this is a nice, fun, little spooky experience in October. But man, it seems like they're missing the point of what that game's about. Hmm. Because of the action focus? Because of the action focus. Because of small things even like changing. This is going to sound like the f- Please don't, don't. Make a judgment call right away. There's a character you meet who's ah who's in, like the original game is in like a short skirt, leopard print kind of stuff. And they changed her outfit in this to be much more, um like much more conservative. And ah please, I'm not i'm not saying, that oh my God, that you've made my characters less sexy. There is a reason that character looks like that. Like there is a theme, a deep thematic reason that character looks like that. And by making the-
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Is it because of skin photosynthesis? When you find out the reason you're going you are going to regret your words and you are going to feel ashamed for your actions, um there is a reason for it. And it's just the fact that they didn't understand that makes me very worried that they're not going to understand what this game is actually about. I'm excited to play it. But I don't think it'll be good. It sounds a lot like the complaints about the the Avatar or Last Airbender live action adaptation. Like the stuff that was coming out about what they chose. No, this new Netflix one. Like a lot of those, a lot of the exact same thing you were saying in that the changes that are being broadcast don't seem to understand why the thing existed there in the first place. Yeah, yeah they changed ah like what ah what's his name, Zuko or whatever, like his whole. No, so like Saka's sexism, for example. Yeah, oh yeah to they toned it down or whatever.
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Like, but it was part of the arc standing off the edges of his character arc. then Yeah, it was. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of been, you know, obviously going to sound like the the grifters kind of stuff thing for a second, but it feels like a lot of like. Hard to deal with media, maybe, or like really thematically strong media has been like sanitized quite a bit of the last decade. They remove vagina bones from my anime game. What? Yeah. Oh, you don't remember that? me What is that sentence? You know you don't remember that.
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you know remember There was like a post, like a Twitter post or something about ah an anime game that a character went in the move from ah Japan to to the Western markets, like the whatever, ah a dress moved or like her skirt moved up a little bit or whatever. And like her her yeah like her kind of her hips, like the bones in her hips like didn't go down as far. And a character and the post said, they they removed I can't believe they removed her vagina bones. And so, yeah, it's it's a shame to remove the vagina bones. Excellent. um Yeah, but this is not a. but well You know, just a lot of the remakes and stuff like that remove remove a lot of like what people made it memorable for people. Yeah, yeah those strong themes and, you know, people like who played Silent Hill 2 have played it over and over and over again and know that game inside and out.
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Chat, it is insane that Tokyo Mirage Sessions was the game for Djinnabon because I didn't know what that game was when the thing was going down because I didn't play Tokyo Mirage. I didn't get into Persona and Tokyo Mirage Sessions until after. After that, and it came to Switch. And then we put two and two together. I've experienced a vagina bone censorship. I lived to tell about it. Here's my 45 minute YouTube video. god But in more far and more happiness, Astrobot got revealed.
Astrobot and PlayStation Nostalgia
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ah It's coming out in September. This is a non-VR full 3D platformer follow-up to the Astrobot game that came pre-packaged with the PS5. What was the name of that game?
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Astro's Playroom, I believe. Astro's Playroom, OK. Yeah. And it has it looks fucking delightful. It looks it is ah it is a looks like just a 3D character platformer going through different worlds, ah but with a lot of love and care paid to PlayStation history, which is funny, considering Sony isn't great at paying love to their own history, including shutting down Japan Studio and having Asobi, the team behind this, being like the only remnants of it. um but it's like you're going around it looks like you're almost like rescuing icons of PlayStation Pass from the little scarf journeyman to Nathan Drake to to the eco and child of the Colossus characters like it looks
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Absolutely delightful. And if anyone played that, I mean, I hope everyone who has a PS5 played that game that came with it because that is just an incredible game and like still the best proof of concept for the DualSense. It has like legitimately the most like interesting and technologically advanced rumble ah i've I've ever played in a game. And so I'm just, I'm really, I'm really excited with this. It's just coming in September. If this is Sony's only game of the fall or that in Concord, that's fine with me. ah The ah it reminds me of a tear away unfolded which I feel like an I don't know people played and Terry. Yeah, great There wasn't there was one of the best video games and then Terry unfolded brought that to consoles. Yeah, what a game if you like to What world was it? ah Shit He's a sack sack boy. Yeah, if you look exactly a little bit kind of gets five you you would really like to tear tear away unfolded and Yeah, it's great. Tear away on Vita. It used all the different weird functionality of the Vita. You would, you know, touch screen, stick to controller around. ah The Vita had a front facing camera and like the whole game has, I haven't played it a long time. The whole game has something where you are, you're trying to like communicate with the sun or send a letter to the sun or do something with the sun.
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And eventually you get there and when you get to the sun and like the camera pans up to the sun and just the sun is the front facing camera. And so I was like in my bed like that all of a sudden I see the sun. I'm like, Jesus Christ. like but Great game. And then the other big game, Casey, is Monster Hunter Wilds. What did you think about the Monster Hunter Wilds footage? ah First off, big disappointment because it does not look like Wirebug is coming back. and yeah That really upsets me. But outside of that, Monster in the Wild looks amazing. like The a RE engine looks so freaking good.
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um In terms of what they're adding, it looks like they are going for a bit of a more cinematic feel with that game's combat. like there's I watched a like a breakdown of it. I can't remember what the term was called, but like apparently like yeah every weapon has some sort of like kind of aimed mode, so like you can kind of do like precision attacks on like certain body parts for each monster or whatnot. like like It gets the camera up really, really close on at least the greatsword, from what I could tell. and like It just looks sick, like, and, you know, like, aesthetic is a lot of. It's like, I want to say not a lot of, but half of, like, kind of what makes the combat in those games feel so fun is that, like, you feel like you're a part of that epic battle against these creatures. And it looks like they're doubling down on that, even though it's not it's probably not going to be as fast as a Rise was.
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Um, but they are, they are making some quality of life things that I think will help a lot. Cause apparently you can carry two weapons and like your, your kind of bird dog, uh, mount in that game is going to be kind of like a mobile camp. So like you can call it to pick you up, uh, even when you're on the ground and you can like swap from like one heavy weapon to like maybe a lighter, faster one, uh, on, on the back of that thing while in motion and like. Clearly, I feel like that's all leading to you not having to, like, go back to base camp as often, because they toured around in some of the end games for like World and in Rise, where like after you finish all the story stuff, you kind of get to explore like each map as kind of a continuous thing where monsters just show up.
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And I feel like that's kind of what they're aiming for now. Like the main game will kind of be this bigger open world thing where you're just out there and like you got to hunt a monster. Like it seems like the quests start dynamically. Like you come across something and it'll be like, oh, now you're doing this particular quest to hunt this monster as opposed to you having to go to a hub, set everything up and then come back. Like most of that setup will probably happen out in the wilds. And maybe in the middle of it, you can be like set upon by some vicious creature, which yeah could make for like a really cool ah situation. So I don't know that for sure. But I definitely get the feeling that that might be the goal here. So I'm very I'm still very excited because it's it's a very different kind of monster hunter. They also just think what I want to talk about to actually be kind of the idea.
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Masaharu Du with Dragon's Dog Madel. It showed cutscenes too with um a just like really great looking character model, like the characters just looked really fucking cool. But also voice acting for the first time, is that right? Oh yeah, they're they're giving a voice to your main character and it looks like they're giving voices to the Palakos who have always talked. They always have text, but yeah they never had voice lines, which a lot of other NPCs did. so People will probably hate that because it's gonna be super high-page baby voices. Yeah yeah another time on oh no it's pi on i ah Pretty much it's pretty much gonna be that I have you heard the I heard what the Japanese cat sounds like it is pretty much just i was pretty much like by but r ip um Yeah looks really cool and yeah, like you mentioned Casey v yeah the the RE engine is showing that it can
00:24:35
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between, you know, Dragon's August. It's super impressive. open world yeah so it It seems so versatile, the way they've been able to make use of it and all their stuff so in the past couple of years. Yeah. Capcom's, again, it seems like they're on a roll and it seems like they're more... That roll's continuing. They have stuff they're showing off on Friday at the at Achilles and Sunday at the ah Xbox Showcase, and including they said they're showing more Monster Hunter. um You know, when maybe a said we when we... What's that action game that they have coming? Pragmata? No, no, the other one, the fantasy one. I forget what it's called. There's been no buzz for it. in game
00:25:11
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It's got a really weird title. and Capcom Fantasy Action Game. I feel like there's too many fantasy action games right now. I don't want to be like this. There's like three or four games that come out during the PlayStation showcase that I was like, these are all the same game. What are these games? It's Knutsugami Path of the Goddess. Oh, that. OK, the one that's like all about like spirits and stuff. Yeah. yeah There's like some RTS elements in it. That looks. Yes. I don't think that game's going to do well. I mean, it looks cool, though. I'm i'm interested interested. Nobody. Nobody's talking about it. Yeah, I completely forgot his existence. You're right. Do you think we'll see Deeptown?
00:25:52
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No, we'll never see deep down ever again. I did not make it up, Joe. We won't be on the screen right there. I tell you, I played deep down in Japanese. I did not understand what was going on. that video yeah I played deep down. ah It's they never been ever like officially canceled it, right? It just stopped talking about it. Yeah, the agent. they Yeah, market lots of like mysterious PlayStation games that will never exceed the light of day when that wild. agent. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a little history of just forgotten about games, at least Xbox announces and shows them off and then cancels. Yeah. least they have the least Yeah. Yeah. Your, your scale bounds and your fable legend. Yeah. Rip. Uh, yeah. I don't, like, what did you guys think of the showcase overall? Like
00:26:43
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design ah I just watched some of the trailers, but yeah, like a lot of those action games really do look the same. I still think a lot of them look cool, like where winds meet looks up my alley and and all that, but also like. Yeah, that the. the and The Chinese kind of market for those types of games is getting saturated very quickly with a lot of this very similar looking games and development. Yeah, and i'm umm i'm I'm getting, I want to make sure that I don't, I want to remain skeptical when I roll in, but I want to leave room for, hey, one of these games might be fucking awesome because I felt that exact same way about LizaP. And I was like, I don't know who this developer is. Like this is clearly just cribbing the FromSoft formula, like whatever. And then it comes out and it's like, Oh no, you're not, you're, you're a little bit of cribbing, but you're cribbing way better than anyone else does. So.
00:27:32
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Yeah, I was honestly kind of impressed with Sony's showing because like i'll I criticized them a lot for sticking to a very strict formula of third-person, cinematic-driven like story-based games, where it's like, all right, there is an underlying gameplay mechanic here, but it's kind of tried and true. And all of their money and time and attention goes to just making it look really good and making a quality-ass story. And it's like the gameplay ends up being born with the story being the the highlight. And like that's enough for a lot of people, but that usually turns me off because I keep getting that. None of these seem to be in that vein. These all seem to be at the very least more mechanic heavy. Like it's it's about a combat system or like a, you know, a world full of ah characters or whatnot. And like, that's what I have been wanting from Sony. Like this is the stuff that I've wanted Xbox to have their developers present. And like what I think Xbox has
00:28:26
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ah When they when they don't completely botch a first party release like this is stuff that I would associate with their platform more than Sony So if they have the cinematic stuff cover and then they're starting to get more of this mechanical heavy gameplay stuff covered Like they're they're doing no wrong So like I got like i was I was very impressed by what they had to show Yeah, it almost seems like they don't I mean at this point like they're doing fine they don't need a Like, they're not on the back foot. Like, Microsoft is kind of the one who needs to prove things. Certain third parties need to prove things that, like, oh, no, no, no, we're we're not a one-trick pony, we could do X, Y, and Z. ah
Monster Hunter Wilds: Cinematics and Gameplay
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Like, Sony, it just seems like now, like, there's this engine that keeps rolling, and it's, like, fine, nothing, you can you could throw pennies, you can throw sticks on the track, it's just gonna roll over them. That being said, Microsoft felt like that.
00:29:15
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When I was talking about those E3s I was watching, Microsoft felt like they could do no wrong. like but that And that kind of hubris, a lot of times when you like that led into the Xbox One reveal, and like, oh, that hubris caught the best of them. Just like Sony coming out of the PS2, that hubris led into the PS3 reveal, and that's when everything changed. so yeah I don't know. it'll be ah It'll be interesting to see. I feel like all the time, like it's it's always interesting like to almost look at a heat map, a year by year heat map of how these ah first parties or third parties are doing. and and um you know Sometimes it feels like you're watching a horse race or one one one racer is way out in front and then other times it looks like everyone's neck and neck and they're kind of inching forward and in switching spots.
00:29:56
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It's more exciting race that way. So like i've I've been bummed at how far away some of these racehorses, we'll call them, have been from each other. Yeah, yeah. And it's also Sony. um One of the things I loved so much in the PS3 and early in the PS4 generation was they gave a real heavy spotlight to indie horror games and even felt like they were carrying the indie spirit whether it was um stuff like Journey or Unfinished Swan or you know having Transistor and the Witness on stage at ah at showcases and it just seems like they don't really do that anymore. That being said we now have so many more
00:30:34
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exciting showcases that just focus on indies like half of the show more than half the showcases we're going to be covering uh during our watch alongs over the next few days are focused solely on indies and we know games they've already announced that are going to be there and stuff that we just know embargoed that like are really cool like oh like there is a good chance one of our next favorite games is going to be shown off at one of those conferences like these are the conferences that um You know in the in the past like a year ago would have showed off like a blot your own animal well and Lorelei and that's where you know stuff like tunic was at these kinds of conferences and I don't want to bring up straight that was at Sony but we need to bring up sha and when you win Sony and all that what you'd pay quite a lot of money to be in those showcases or have some exclusive marketing deal Yeah, not absolutely not really a surprise anymore with all the different options they have
00:31:22
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ah Oh, and Ren, sorry, I did, I absolutely ran it. Missed your first ah super chat, my mistake. I yeah i got Ruben and Ren confused. I'm very bad, I'm sorry. We're gonna go over the super chats. Ren with a $5 dino, thank you so much. Any of you excited for Stalker 2? I've been playing the Mega Mod Gamma and I've been painting some 3D printed Stalker minis because I'm insane. Do you think we see Stalker 2 this weekend? Yeah, because it's got a September release date on it. ah Yeah, I'm I'm definitely interested. Yes, I do. I do think it sticks this time. I'm definitely interested in it. I don't.
00:32:01
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You know, like what? Like, well, first off, when they first revealed that we we got yelled at a lot because we did a little video back on the escapist where I was like, that that game isn't going to look like that when it's done. And everybody's like, no, that's exactly what it looks like. And all that. It has very clearly gotten downgrades over the years, which is fine. That's that's how game development works. But yeah, I guess I'm. I'm just really curious like how GSE shapes up to to do this thing. its It sounds very ambitious. and i' Yeah, like i don't I don't know what kind of studio GSE is anymore. Because so many for form, went off to form 4A games and all that to make Metro and and everything. So ah definitely definitely curious if it lives up to the hype it set for itself.
00:32:51
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Like, I don't know anything about the stalker franchise like is is the hype for two based around a love of the first one or is it on the merits of its ah showings? No, it's a sequel. It's kind of both. I mean, the first one is definitely like a big cult classic, I would say. Hmm. oh they were They were known for their jank, so it's not like this's not the best game that was ever made, but like as far as like surviving and an apo apocalyptic wasteland, single player you know story game, it people really liked it for that. okay it It gives you like a much more hardcore Metro or Fallout experience that you don't get really in in any other game of this type.
00:33:34
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Okay, cause yeah from the the gameplay stuff that Eric is showing, like it looks super polished. I remember that earlier trailer and absolutely was like, the games don't look like this. like is This is not what a video game looks like. Um, but like, yeah, if they can, if they can ship, like, I guess that like what it looks like they're trying to ship, like, it seems like the audience forward will be pleased, but like, I don't know if I'm that audience, if I'm being honest. Sure. ah You are definitely not the audience for this type of game. Yeah, just you would not like this. Um, yeah, I'm curious if it like this does feel like the kind of game that could be like a like a graduation to the next level for a franchise. um
00:34:14
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you know, a little bit like Lords of the Fallen, Lords of the Fallen felt like, ooh, this is like a real game, as opposed to Lords of the Fallen. Not that same, Lords of the Fallen 1 and Stalker 1 are not in the same category, but you know, it does feel like it could be a big leap, and obviously the development has a fascinating story behind it too, so. Yeah,
Alan Wake 2 and Slitterhead Teasers
00:34:32
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but like Nick said, and well, good chance we'll see you at Microsoft Showcase on Sunday. Uh, Eric with his arses. Finally, some Nintendo on my PlayStation. You know what? That's what Astrobot is. Astrobot's just a little bit of Nintendo. No, not like that with Sackboy. Or Sax, but Sackboy and Nintendo. I never played the straight up platformer, but I always thought that little big planet was kind of whack, like as a game. I didn't know Sackboy's way better than little big planet. It's way better, okay. Sackboy is literally PlayStation's Mario.
00:35:02
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ah that's ah and That's a real fun co-op game. You don't fun to have fun playing with the kid. like I think you'd have a great time. Also, there's one level that Britney Spears is toxic. Great level. yeah yeah yeah Imagine a platform like music level. sucks yeah Oh, so Sony does have a music division. Are they leveraging that? for like Oh, I never even thought about that. I think there was a David Bowie song. I'd be curious if they were just calling from their own libraries. Sequo had quite a few licensed songs in it. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Yeah, they felt like those levels in the Rayman Legends and Origins were just one head. Oh, yeah, those were good. Yeah, those were cool. Again, it's fun. Jewel Ra, re-upped in the tip jar. Thank you so much, Jewel. And then a pair of messages. First, I'm with a five-year-old don't know. I'm glad Monster Hunter World popped off. And then we get to see the franchise getting the budget. It truly deserved time to get hunting again. Yeah, that franchise is obscene.
00:35:52
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how big that franchise is. um And it just keeps growing. Again, it kind of feels like persona in a bit where it like felt kind of niche and kind of bigger in Japan. But then I think with ah Monster Hunter Worlds, I guess, was probably the one that really like felt like a kick through into the West and like became like a really big sensation. And so it is it is cool to see the series continue to grow. And we got to we got to steal more shit from Japan because that this keeps happening. Like the the Japanese are on school now. They make this way over to the West. And then it blows up because the West is the tastemaker in terms of like what's popular everywhere else, right? But like, yeah Japan knows what's going on. Yeah. Yakuza TV show coming in October. Yeah, that's right. Coming in October. Yeah. And then Jewel with another two euro. Thank you so much. I look forward to Kenitsu Gami. That was the game. Nick mentioned the Capcom game. And Wukong and Adventure is nigh, unless AIN is another game.
00:36:48
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Adventure is not a game coming out. Incredible. Wukong, I forgot. That's still set for August. Yeah. August 20th. Do you think that'll be Eliza P? Or do you think that'll be a... I don't know. I forgot that existed. The last showing for that wasn't great, in my opinion. The previous set is more of a traditional action game than a Souls game. So that has me very interested. I think that game's looking good every time they're showing it off. So I'm excited if for it. I don't like that. I watched like extended gameplay and it looked a little more jank than I would have thought. But it'll probably be fine.
00:37:31
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That's yeah it's really helpful of you. I like that. I mean, you're probably fine. What else are we going to do? It'll be good enough. Wink potato with a $5 dono. Thank you so much. Never going to reach to the heights of the best roadside picnic adaptation, Stalker the Film. Stalker the Film is great. I mean, that's ah that's a luminary behind it. Man, roadside picnic. So good. ah Yeah, we'll see about soccer. We'll see about soccer. I don't know. There's some games I have in my, I am totally confident in. Astrobot, totally confident in. Wukong Stalker, we'll see. We'll see. I'm not going to say no. But I'm going to shake my hand and I'm going to make the woo noise. Yeah, if I get the opportunity, I i will try all of them. There you go. You're there for not our job i'm actually going I Wukong. I want to know if Wukong is good.
00:38:19
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There you go. ah The only game we don't have to worry about is Dokevy. Dokevy will be fine. ah Speaking of Dokevy, let's talk about Summer Game Fest. We're here. It's finally happening. ah ah Summer Game Fest, ah is Sony kicked things off last week. It is getting into full gear tomorrow at noon. with the Gorilla Collective Showcase, which is going to be a lot of very cool indie games that they've already announced. And then, obviously, the the the first biggie is going to be a Summer Game Fest Live on Friday evening, starting at 4 p.m. Central. ah Three of us will be live then. ah Watching that, that's the big, you know, the Jeff Keighley produced one. That's an immediately followed by Day of the Devs, Devolver Digital. And there's a sneaky little metaphor refantazio showcase that got showed. We don't have to stay for that one.
00:39:05
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Uh, but even if we don't, ah we're no longer live, I'm still going to be talking to the bro to the, to the non-functional camera in front of me and live reacting to metaphor refantazio. So there you go. yeah Saturday, I'm going to run off to the restaurant. Okay, go for it. And then Saturday starting at 10 a.m. Central is gonna be just back-to-back-to-back smaller showcases, Future of Play, Wholesome Direct, Latin American Game Showcase, Women-led Game Showcase, Future Game Show. Again, hella cool indies there. And then Sunday starting at noon will be the Xbox Showcase followed by the big old Black Ops 6.
00:39:39
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ah footage, I guess full reveal and the PC gaming showcase and then Monday 2 p.m. Central is going to be Ubisoft forward which um Obviously they have two big games in the fall and AC shadows and Star Wars outlaws So it's gonna be true to see what else they got showing out there Let's start with summer game fest live. Mm-hmm And there's there's a lot of things around this. ah we' weve They've confirmed some of the games that are already gonna be there, including, we mentioned Monster Hunter Wilds, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, which I know Nick is super excited about. Did you ever get into that first one?
00:40:14
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No, I didn't. like It's more medieval whatever, like, yeah. Pass. and I feel the same way. It's not here to defend it and I feel bad. ah but toas But toasty is. Let let yeah let us have it toasty soon.
00:40:31
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ah The aforementioned metaphor, Rifantazio from the Persona team. Dragon Ball Sparking Zero. You got any temperature on Sparking Zero? ah that That thing is pure fanservice to the Budokai crowd. yeah And I did play Budokai back in the day. It was fun then. I don't think its gameplay holds up. ah Like there's a much better Dragon Ball Z fighting game in FighterZ, FighterZ, whatever you want to call it. Dark system, um yeah. Yeah, but I don't know, like maybe maybe this is a revamp of that older arena fighter, because because it's not following the formula of current anime arena fighters, it's following the old formula of Dragon Ball Z specific arena fighting.
00:41:10
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And so, like, I do think there's more meat there, but it's still kind of like very just button mashy gameplay. But I don't know. Maybe maybe they are refining it with this and that will and it'll be different. But I don't know. But and but. At a base level does have a huge like there's people who are crazy nostalgic for booty cut. Yes, absolutely. But I'm happy that they are getting it because they've been they've been gone for the skin. Yeah. um So like if I get a chance, you know, i'll I'll try it out see if there's this merit there But like I don't I don't have high hopes for this kind of a thing, but I don't know maybe it'll be different
00:41:44
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Yeah. and It looks great. They always look great. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it seems like they're they're like, it's so funny, like they're just like making a huge events out of the character reveals of like 30 different versions of Goku. People are like stoked for each one, which I get. Like if you may, if if they were like, there's 30 different links in Smash, I'd be like, I want to know about each one. I mean, oh yeah. Yeah. Tell me about all the links. Exactly. um Also, it hasn't been officially confirmed, but the ah Remedy has been super teasing the Alan Wake 2 first ah DLC set, which is going to be on the Night Springs, like seemingly set around the fictional TV show inside the world of Alan Wake, the Night Springs. Yeah. Yeah. so but And obviously Keely's had a good relationship with them. They did their big the big dance number at the Game Awards and everything. They did, didn't they? That was fun.
00:42:32
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That was really fun, right? And then ah Slitterhead, they announced today, is getting its first gameplay showcase. That is the spooky game ah from the Bokeh Games, which is a new Japanese studio that also I think was revealed during the Kili thing a few years ago. ah it is ah That game is ah notable because that studio is founded by a lot of the ah leads who worked on the original Silent Hill. and the and like team siren and everything at Sony. So ah they very much seem like you know if if Silent Hill 2 remake doesn't feel like it understands what Silent Hill was about, this seems like that is that thing. Whether this team is still has it, whether this new team you know ah still still has the juice. Yeah. like that So there were a lot of Silent Hills made, right? Correct. but like
00:43:22
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Was it ah different people from that original and second Silent Hill team? Yeah, it's like so what were they doing in different directors? ah They kind of branched out like the people who made the first Silent Hill created this team siren and they made these that do you remember those horror game siren for like this two and three? I think so. So they so they branched off that early? yeah like they they left The development of those games, like there are some folks like Akira Toriyama, obviously, the the the composer and and like some of the monster designers and everything like may maintained on the game, but it is ah it's it's there's like weird stories about the development of those games, and the reason one, two, three, and four all feel very different is because they did have very different teams, um which um sadly one of the things is also ah
00:44:12
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uh just by the nature of Japanese games we just don't know a lot about that story a lot of it is like through secondhand accounts and everything we just don't have you know they're they tend to be pretty um lock and key when it comes to stuff like that uh 2k has announced that a big game a new game in one of their biggest franchises is going to be there uh the money is on borderlands it's been It's been a while. Six years
Blumhouse and Borderlands Speculations
00:44:38
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ago. there we and And they did wonderlands, yeah. oneance yeah um So it feels like it's gonna be Borderlands. um You know, it could be Mafia, could be Bioshock. It's been forever since we oh my god yeah yeah and we've they've been talking about whatever reboot that they are doing. Oh, is it a sequel? Did they say one way or the other? They haven't said one way or another. I think the problem is the
00:45:01
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ah the game has been like rebooted several times. I think it's just had a lot of ah creative problems behind the scenes. And so you know that maybe sometimes that happens in a good game comes at the end of it. But ah sometimes that is an early warning sign of turmoil. it's not It's not usually what happens. Is that a good game? No. Nope. Nope. And yeah, it could be Civilization. That's true. It could be Civ VI was a long time ago, so it could absolutely be true. I know people love that game. That would be so disappointing. If that was the big deal. Yeah, there'd be, yeah. I'd believe so people would be still so turned off. um I'm glad you're happy.
00:45:38
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And then they also announced NEVA, which is the follow-up from the Grease team, Grease, G-R-I-S, which is cool. Like there's, you know, um one of my, when we get in the meat and potatoes, I'm i'm hoping to see follow-ups of a lot of my favorite in these the last few years, um because it seems like the time is is getting closer for that. And then Blumhouse Horror, which has ah ah Blumhouse, the the the film production, horror production company is getting into games and they have a ton of talented people there. And so they're gonna, I believe showing off like their first slate of what spookiness they got um in store. Those are just the things they've announced. Obviously there's gonna be plenty more they haven't announced. ah so so So this isn't tied to games, the Blumhouse thing? No, it is. it is ah they are They've created like a game division.
00:46:25
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Okay, so it's okay. So they will be talking about games and not just yeah, it's almost like, yeah, yeah. Like when Anna Perna interactive, like Anna Perna was a film production company. And then they're like, we have a video game line. And so they're just going to be doing games. All right. And their focus is going to be like their films on like, yeah, yeah, you know, the bathroom. Okay, that's kind of cool. Usually you can leave during the spookiness you could do that. Nick was too scared of talking about Blumhouse. That's why he left um Yeah, and then ah yes, those are the big things we know about at ah um At the summer game fest nothing's been I think outside from black ops nothing's been concrete concrete about Xbox although obviously there's a lot of ah
00:47:09
Speaker
Educated guesses you can make on stuff like whos supposedly coming later this year like ah vowed like the starfield DLC like Indiana Jones um Seeing what's going on with Forza? There there's there's been some scuttlebutt about gear six But I feel like I've been hearing that mainly from Nick like I don't i don't know if I've seen that anywhere else next scuttle button i It feels like this is a show gear six like a yeah, I don't think it'll be like a giant reveal But I think a cool a cool trailer cool teaser. and the Yeah, the insiders have all been saying. Gear six is coming between Jess Corden and Jeff Grubb. I only care about what the outsiders say. seven as Scott Hall trackwork has been pretty good on Xbox stuff. Yeah. But yeah, I'm super stoked to see that if it if it is because a lot of Xbox studios are messing around with Unreal Engine and after seeing Hellblade 2 and the technical craft there and ready to see more of these UE5 games utilizing all that tech.
00:48:06
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Wasn't there talk of ah Halo getting started on an Unreal 5 project? No. Yeah, there was. ah Who knows what's going on with Halo at this point. Wow. No idea. you You just wanted to, you just wanted to sweep that away as quickly as possible. did We're not talking about a Halo. Gears of War is the new like mainstay Xbox franchise. Halo is headed today. Friendship with Halo over. i don't I don't feel like Gears of War can carry that burden. Like I love Gears of War, but like
00:48:38
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it's It's not singular, singularly character facing in that in the same way that Halo and Master Chief is. So I don't know. Here's to me. Here's to me always. He was hurt me enough. Let me have this. Here's to me. So I I view gears like I view Metroid. um I don't think Metroid is in the same. stratosphere as uh as mario and zelda and there's been masterpieces in both series uh usually the games are good um but it just does feel like it's it's one step down yeah i mean super mentor i guess is an absolute masterpiece so maybe i i regret everything i just said but that's fine it's fine i don't know i think like you know between uh gears five and like uh high busters you know if
00:49:26
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I think I think the questions are so good. Yeah, I think the coalition definitely could become like the main studio for Xbox. ah And they they've let you've let them cook on Gears 5 6 for a long time. So does Xbox need a main studio? I think I think they need a studio that like you point at like PlayStation does for Naughty Dog. And I do think they do eat that. I think the studio also has Santa Monica and also yeah so and also as well. yeah You have to start somewhere. I think like we for for Xbox, they need a studio they can point to that says like, hey, we we put out consistently good releases that push the bar each time they do it. And I think I think the coalition can be that with Unreal Engine. But that's kind of turned 10, but like their their series is is a niche like racing isn't isn't doesn't blow the the world away.
00:50:18
Speaker
But they're also working on Fable now. No playground games is working. Well, you play around and only does racing games. ba I do that. perfect Play in playground. How would our boys look alike? I can't tell the difference. in my playground if If playground males Fable, they could be that, you know, another one of their marquee studios that they point to for. Cause I think they're pretty close without Forza Horizon, but Forza is just, you know, it's a racing game. Do you do you think Fable can can carry that, that weight? Like can it stand in like, maybe not in the position of a master chief?
00:50:54
Speaker
in the Halo, but like me like alongside it in terms of... of like i mean I feel like fantasy action RPGs are more popular now than ever. We haven't had a proper pay Fable game since Witcher 3. Witcher 3 was one of those kind of like generation defining games. Not saying this will be Witcher 3, but it feels like in a post Game of Thrones post-Witcher kind of, I don't know, fantasy seems more popular than ever now, so it seems like if Fable really knocked out of the park, it could be a really big thing. yeah um That's a lot of big, a lot of big ifs though. Do you think we see Fable?
00:51:27
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ah We should. Yeah, I would think so. Yep, I agree. I want to run down a list of games that I've dubbed M.I.A. Mostly that just things we haven't seen or heard about in a while. Not that I don't think these games exist, but I just wanted to get a temperature check and see if we're going to if you guys think we'll see these at some point this weekend. A couple of things are are Xbox things at the top. ah We mentioned Fable. ah Perfect dark, Casey.
00:51:52
Speaker
yeah That's. ah I don't I don't have words for how upset I am about whatever's going on. Perfect Dark. But in this current climate, I don't imagine that they have anything to say about it. Like they they they just closed a bunch of studios like. They're not saying anything about any of the other work that's going on. It's super quiet. I feel like if if there was motion on Perfect Dark, we would have heard about it. Someone would have said somewhere that something was coming. I feel like that that project is just in the void right now. ah Damn, not the good void either, not the outreach void. The bad void. Bad void. Nick Everwild.
00:52:34
Speaker
do you think rares, i'll speaking of games that have seemingly had trouble with productions, rares, big kenna, whatever, ever wild, I guess we don't even know whatever wild is. The the last Xbox showcase they they don't they did but What
Xbox Showcase Expectations and Frustrations
00:52:51
Speaker
when how many showcases ago they said we're only showing stuff in the next twelve months and then people didn't like that so then the showcase after i think they said okay we'll show you stuff that's coming down the line to write. Is that not the idea or was it where do i have a backwards no i think.
00:53:06
Speaker
You might have a backwards but I do remember that yeah I do remember them saying yeah every one of these games coming out the next 12 months and I believe one of them was starfield and starfield got delayed an entire year yeah yeah and then they they flip flop on that and went back to okay we'll show you stuff that's coming down the line too yeah I think they need to be I think you need to be careful right now especially after shutting those studios about like Giving things that people can really look forward to so I think you know ah Clearly, you know avowed. I think it's gonna be their front their front-facing title for this showcase Because that's that's really their next big marquee release. I would put up I would say Yeah, I mean that feels likes going kind of be like outer worlds though, which is like I
00:53:49
Speaker
feel Yeah, I mean, it's it's not. Well, they already set expectations for that. It's not Skyrim. It's they're a more story focused, smaller scoped, you know, city in game. They set those expectations for Hellblade, though. and they don't go Yeah, like ah like this is a pattern, honestly, that like every like Xbox as a brand has been promising us the next generation since the Series X was announced and every studio they eat up their output is like, hey, we are not responsible for delivering that we were doing this little thing over here. So I don't know why you're looking at our game as if this was going to be the next week, like go talk to Xbox proper about that. So like that, that seems a bit concerning. Like, where where is the big one?
00:54:33
Speaker
I think that's fable. I think I definitely think that's Gears 5. I think that's Gears 6, and I think that's fable. And then before that conference, they would come up like, hey, fable is not this big, expensive, fit like it's a small, a personal story about it. Nah. As someone who likes keeping expectations in check, I don't mind that. um But yeah, that is ah that is that is pretty funny. um Another another game announced years and years ago still haven't seen contraband. um The I was confusing that with Concord. Oh, yeah, no, this was the one like the teaser showed nothing other than like jungle based. It seemed like a co-op kind of like we're doing a heist in the jungle game. It was like a camera panning over like a but contraband contraband. Yeah, contraband is like the leaks about it, whereas it's a it's a vehicle combat yeah like a car combat sort of thing.
00:55:29
Speaker
So I don't, you know what? I don't read the leaks. I don't like getting spoiled, Nick. I don't i don't pay, I don't pay. worry i i need tyler and now it does To get YouTube desert. No, it's like a little, it's like a little shack. We're seeing it right now in the jungle, jungle shack. That's exactly what I was pretty. I was telling you guys, they have a big, they have a big jungle shack. yeah game god well Yeah, everybody, a lot of people have been going back to play the Mad Max game, myself included, and I forgot like how good the vehicle combat is in that game. It know was good in Rage 2 as well, so it's definitely a game ah I'm interested to know more about, I think.
00:56:05
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it The premise of it from the weeks sounds really interesting for a multiplayer game. I was kind of saying, I don't remember what stream I was saying it on, but like the multiplayer games that seem to be taking off right now are like unique in their objectives, where, you know, Concorde just looks like you shoot, shoot everybody 5v5 again. But like the multiplayer games that are blowing up are Lethal Company, you know, what should we call it? Seismophobia, Helldivers, you know, all these games that have like that aren't just competitive, they're they're fun, objective based modes. Hmm. Yeah, PvP. This is a contraband, is it? Hang on. Mad Max. Mad Max. Oh, OK. I was looking down there and I was like, they didn't show all this shit. Yeah, so we'll see. Those are like, you know, do you think they show big guns? Like, do you think they've mentioned Elder Scrolls six?
00:57:00
Speaker
the I don't think they have anything to show for. And they did. No. They burned that card already. Like they mentioned it before. So i if they i look for the show yeah they don't have anything more to show, they didn't need to shut up about it. Yeah, absolutely. shut a logo um Some Wonder Woman. Oh, you know, I forgot about the shadow. I would love to see that. I would love to see that. Or literally like today or yesterday that came out, they said the game was in struggling. Or the game is struggling and struggling. And why is every game struggling? Seems like most of Warner Bros games are struggling because they keep trying to make everything live service. Not our Warner Brothers. Do you think Wonder Woman might be in that camp? I don't know. That's what the report said. The report said that. The report said Wonder Woman's struggling. Yeah, that's what that's the game we're talking about. No, no, no. But struggling from being having live service stuff implemented. That's what. Oh, oh, no.
00:57:57
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I don't know. I don't really. I don't trust what was just called Wonder Women.
00:58:04
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ah Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I imagine Warner Bros. It was like, hey, Hogwarts Legacy sold was the best selling game and Suicide Squad was the worst selling game. Hmm. Yeah. One of these might be better than the other you pivot away. And then, you know, multiverse has gone through a lot of ah bad feedback right now because this monetization sucks. So it seems like the changes they made to the game were like But they made the game worse. That's not good. Don't do that. I think they made the gameplay better, but then they got greedy. R.I.P. multiverses. Star Wars Eclipse. The David Cage Star Wars game that was revealed two and a half years ago. reg just on summer game that's proper now Are we done talking about Xbox?
00:58:48
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ah ah No Nick when you were in the bathroom where we said we're just doing a bunch of I'm just im i list a bunch of I'm listening a bunch of games that have not been there in a while and so just think We'll see these places. No, I don't think we see the I don't think we see Star Wars Eclipse. I think that's like maybe maybe game or it's I know I don't think Sony I don't think yeah I don't even think Disney would want to market it right now with the Outlaws coming out so soon Yeah, that is true. Feels like that might be TMS, too much Star Wars, too many stars. Too many stars. Too many stars. Project 007, which is from all ya act the hitman three team. Hitman was three years ago, 21, I believe. ah And they've been working on James Bond game. We don't know anything about it other than it is called Project 007.
00:59:39
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Feels like we could but we could be in a zone to see something that feels like that seems like twenty five, twenty six game. Yeah. Enough time for at least a meaty showing of like what yeah they have so far and like maybe not a release date, maybe a window. Mm hmm. But like they should be. the if if If that has been going OK, I would say by now that they should have been turned in the corner in terms of yeah delivering because I am excited about that. Do you see photography? No, I don't think we're going to see the big deal. I think I'll be. I'll be pleasantly surprised. Should it show? Well, I don't think we'll see. Crimson Crimson, Crimson Desert from them has planned to be out before Dokev. And we've seen Crimson Desert. We saw a big showcase of Crimson Desert last year. You know what that means here. Yeah. Yeah. They showed off a whole big trailer for it.
01:00:26
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Oh, wasn't that the game where it just has every every other game? Yes, it has everything in it. Yeah. It did a Dokhavi thing where like it was like, oh, this is oh, this is what the game is like. Oh, let me find out that Crimson Desert is Dokhavi. Crimson Desert is just another island of Dokhavi. There's one super realistic fantasy island and one really colorful weebie island. I want to live like the the final trailer is like one of those Doke of the big head kids comes up in front of like this big ah warrior man and they and he just like bump fists. Yeah, we don't think we hear about Doke of the again until Crimson Desert is out. Yeah, that seems ah that that that seems safe. um
01:01:07
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I do remember this trailer. That's wild. I forgot about it completely afterwards. I mean, we watch like a million of these trailers, so they all get kind of like nuked from my brain after these showcases. um In terms of stuff you want to see, stuff you you hope we'll see, big, small stuff we know of, pie in the sky stuff, what are what are some things you'd you'd you'd be stoked to see this weekend? ah Did you guys already mention Borderlands? We did not. We mentioned the, uh, in terms of, uh, we mentioned all the stuff that I have here under, uh, games confirmed. So we mentioned the two, the ah confirmed 2k game and that it sounds like, uh, that it's going to be borderlands. You know, some people in chat were getting excited about civ six or seven, whatever civ, they're up to 10 civ 10. I think it's, I would, I would put borderlands over any of that with the borderlands movie coming out this year, probably. So what happened with fallout and said, uh, yeah. Okay. Let's start together after I just I literally just played through Tiny Tito's Wonderland over the weekend. So I was kind of like, you know what? Did you like it? Yeah, I actually had a pretty good time with it. I didn't like do all the side mission stuff because it got pretty repetitive, but yes, the script, the scripted missions were fun. um But yeah, I definitely like kind of forgot how much fun those games can be. I didn't really like Borderlands 3 all that much, but I loved Borderlands 2 and 1.
01:02:28
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So yeah, I kind of want to see them take another crack at it and what a next gen Borderlands looks like. That's what I thought three was going to be and was kind of. ah Disappointed the gameplay was good, just the story and the world were pretty damn boring. It still felt like too much of the same. Like it didn't feel all that different from two, which I did love and play the shit out of, but like, I love to play the shit out of it like six, seven years ago. And like, I was, I was expecting like them to try their hand at something new. So if this is that I i will, maybe I'll, my ears will perk back up, but three and wonder lands did not change enough. Yeah. And it's been what 2012 was borderlands too. So it seemed like.
01:03:12
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you know, I have to imagine there's been so much turnover at Gearbox since then that it's one of those like the institutional knowledge. I don't even know if it's still there. So you're like, even if there is a portal and say the same thing, like if a new Bioshock game, whenever that comes out, it's like none of these people were worked on Bioshock. Um, so we've got like three different, not Bioshock, Bioshock games coming. I think they can take more time with that if they want. Don't worry. We have plenty of, we have Bioshock at home, including we have Bioshock at home made by the guy who made Bioshock. So yeah, there you go. Um, Yeah, win he any any Casey, anything you're you're hoping for, looking forward to, things you'd you'd put money on or? Nothing's coming to mind at the moment. There was, like I know Konami's on this whole Silent Hill revival thing, but like there was all this talk a little while ago about a Castlevania revival. I'd be super interested to see if that comes to light.
01:04:06
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Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what Konami is doing right now is that they're just like taking their old IP and trying to be like, okay, can we undo some of our some of the knots we've we've created in these from silo to trying to do it with Metal Gear with the collections with ah Metal Gear Solid 3 Delta Snake Eater, whatever the hell that game is called. um Uh, and so it seems like Castlevania would make sense as the next one they're doing that for. They were trying, they were going to re-release Suikoden 1 and 2, which I don't know where those back in went. I just literally just thought of that, that like, they lost that two years ago. Um, Castlevania does seem, it because Castlevania also seems like it's like consistently been in the
01:04:44
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like pop culture conversation because the anime like people really like that show yeah right yeah that that show is out and doing fantastic so like you said uh if 2k has any interest in that sort of brand synergy you know konami would be you know slobbering over themselves to try to get get in on that yeah yeah um and and also also um metal slug that's konami joint right um No. it's That's Contra. That's SNK. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Contra is kind of, yeah. But Metal Slug Tactics, I believe, is... Yeah, I just saw that drop. And that actually, i that came out of left field. That looks really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited about that. I think that... I don't know. We'll see more at, what's the name, but... Oh, the Steam Deck. Okay. Probably one of the, one of the showcase. I'm sure one of the, end like, Gorilla or someone might show it there. You know, I don't know. I don't think it's a developer game, but yeah.
01:05:30
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Um, yeah, in terms of Xbox stuff, like I keep holding my breath for a Banjo and it like started as a joke, but now it's like, this would make sense. And they have several studios that feel like they could do it. Like it feels like it could be a double fine joint that feels like it can now be a toys for Bob joint. Who I feel like, I feel like there could be a project. Yeah. I don't know. less he had crash five or New Spyro. Right. I think you because they own that too now. Shit. They just put them all on the same game. Yeah. Oh my God. We tried that with like Skylanders. No, Banjo is on another tier. I will not have him sullied by by that short wear in Menace or that weird little purple dragon. um One of the one of the games that I was hoping to see and we will see is ah another trailer for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Yeah. I'm so excited for that. We actually made fun of it while you were here and I said, Oh, Nick's not here to defend the game.
01:06:26
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and you didn't You should have watched the show while you were in the bathroom. I'll ill rewind earlier. ah yeah Yeah, as far as like studios with unannounced stuff, I'm still waiting to see what the hell That's No Moon is doing. ah you know They've had a $100 million dollar investment, so i but just something big cooking there. they did They did actually say on ah their Twitter, I think a couple of weeks ago, that it's not Star Wars.
01:06:54
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But maybe they did a wink afterwards. Maybe they did a wink. Yeah, it could have been like they shot first, but it does seem like I don't think they would just name their company after the thing they are doing. That seems foolish. That's like yeah getting like a tattoo of a job. when It's like, well, don't get that. Someday you might not work at that job. but ah Yeah. Yeah. As far as other big projects, like yeah don't I don't really know. Like I think I just. I think I've said it like three years in a row. I'm like, please, Xbox, like a lot of their lineup has me excited. I'm excited for fable. I'm excited for about I'm excited for contraband. Like I'm in Gears 5, Gears 6. I just want to see. I want to see them knock it out of the park. I want them to have their Sony moment where like they have their Uncharted 2 reveal. And I was like, OK, this is the future of Xbox for the next 10 years. Great. Give me put it in my veins.
01:07:46
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Like the the problem with that is even if they do that, even if all their trailers and announcements are gold, like it's still in the back of your head that like none of this will actually come out. None of this will actually be the quality that we think it is because they just failed so often. Like it's been up and down like every now and then they'll get something out and it is kind of dope. What did they not release that they announced that? No, they're like, I don't know what you're I don't really know what you're referring to. They haven't like Perfect Dark is a a big one that they announced it just that has been in development hell. ah But most most of the games they've announced since the cancellations of Scalebound and all that have come out.
01:08:29
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but And when they do come out, they're not great like that. Like it's either they don't make it to the finish line or once they do, they're like tripping and fumbling on themselves. It's Halo. It's Redfall. It's Starfield. Yeah, it's now Hellblade. It's games that like it's like all the stuff that you do get excited about. Yeah, like they come out and they don't hit the mark and like and that takes a toll like like they're like they've set up Like they built up the i they built up a case for the future and like, we're here. Like that was like seven years ago. Like we're here in the future that they promised and like nothing has changed. So like i am I'm kind of exhausted of it.
01:09:08
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Yeah, I guess context was like 343. I mean, since Halo 4 was in trouble, ah that I mean, they just never really hit Halo like they wanted to. ah But I mean, as far as like the Gears series, Gears series has been fine. See if the state of decay and all that have done extremely well. That's that's a game. Yeah, they've they've had like little successes here and there. Like I'm not, I'm not saying it's been a total wash, but like nothing to the extent that we were kind of promised and that we as fans, like I'll fully admit I'm an Xbox fan. Nothing to the extent that I was hoping for. Like they should have been on par with PlayStation at this point and ah they absolutely are not.
01:09:46
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Yeah. Well, I guess we'll see. That's what we say every year. Yeah, it's just Charlie Brown. Yeah, a really Charlie Brown of the football. Like, yeah, it's like, oh, this time, definitely not going to pull it away from me. I feel at least fool they lose Kayla, like they finally made a leadership change and got rid of everybody that was running that studio because they were running it to the ground. ah But that also comes back to Microsoft's issue with contractors and you know, basically not even hiring people to run their studios. So I don't know. But yeah, i basically, yeah, I think the games I'm just most interested in seeing or are like stuff like Fable and all that. I could just, you know, Xbox is such a wild card. You kind of never know what you're going to get. That kind of makes
LEGO and Horizon's Unlikely Match-up
01:10:30
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them exciting. Also disappointing at the same time. ah There's the rumor of the Horizon Lego game, which I can't say I'm really at all interested in.
01:10:42
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I look like, like this it is insane that I like LEGO games and I do not care about Horizon. So I'm like, ooh, a LEGO game, and then they're like Horizon. Like Sony's Horizon? Yeah. Yeah. That's an odd pairing. i feel like I feel like I'm consistently being gaslit that Horizon is a bigger deal than it actually is. And I understand it sells insane amounts and like I think it's just really popular, but I do not know any like hardcore Horizon fans. um It's dam cameron's James Cameron's Avatar. It's Avatar. yeah It really is. I'll give i'll give one one point here to a LEGO Horizon game where like
01:11:20
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if If it's just like a sandbox open world Horizon game with giant fucking mechanical dinosaurs and stuff, that actually appeals me to more than like all the side
Persona 6 and Mega Man Legends Hopes
01:11:29
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questy bullshit in her the most recent Horizon game, even though I liked it. I just always think we're being honest. Yeah, we're being hoodwinked. All right. That's that's that's. Yeah, that's right. This is one of those games where like if they actually took it down, got it away from being overly story focused and cinematic and just let you play around the sandbox. I think it would fare better with. At least with critics, at least. ah I had a couple a couple of ones I wrote down. ah
01:12:00
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But I'm 50-50 on the possibility of a Persona 6 teaser, um if only because ah that, obviously, Metaphor refantazio, which we know is going to be there, is the big game from the Persona 3, 4, and 5 leads. um And it's yeah it feels like Atlas and Sega are having a hard time marketing that game. like it It feels like the like, other than, like, who's from the Persona team? Please, just look at this. Look what they named it. Like, I'm not surprised. Yeah, it's a really bad name. though the game, when you look at it, it's like, oh, this is like, the this is just the core of Persona with ah the late night fantasy world with like, it's kind of more political elements to it. ah But um I'd be curious if without having, with like no concrete Persona things on the horizon, other than the the mobile, the gotcha Persona 5 game, possibly coming to the West, which man, I'm going to spend so much, if that game comes to the West, I'm going to be financially ruined. They revealed that one of the new characters you can buy as an old lady,
01:12:59
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And she's got a persona, so it's like an old lady bandit, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna spend so much money on this old lady bandit. This fucking golden girl. Is that the name of her persona? Golden girl. and ah So, maybe maybe they tease it. um It sounds like this game's been worked on for a long time. I heard it's but its color is green. If you guys wanna, that's a little insider info. It's color is green. Persona 3's color is blue. Persona 4's color is gold. I thought you were still talking about metafazio.
01:13:32
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See ya! I also, from Capcom, I wanna see a Mega Man Legends collection. They've done collections for Mega Man Proper, they've done collections for Axe, they did collections for that RPG series that you didn't like and everyone got mad at you. Now it's time to do Legends. Bring the boy home. They've got more of the RPG collections to get through. like There's like that friggin' Star Force... There's a Star Force. Star something. Star Link, I don't know. there There's like two other...
01:14:02
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Mega Man series that are based in like that sort of Pokemon card battle-esque world. They would probably touch those first. But aren't there only like two Legends games? And there's the misadventures of Tron Bon. Every time we bring up Mega Man Legends, you refuse to put any... Is her name Mega Man? Is her name Mega Man? There's a Marvelous Capcom too. Her and the little serve bots. I'm sorry, i don't i don't I don't know anything about trauma. It's just a lady and a robot with a bunch of little robots. What is that game? that Is that a fun game? Do people like that game?
01:14:39
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It's weird. It's like three different games in one. There's like three distinct different game play styles. It's a good game. It's a good game. but i'm i'm I'm like knee deep in Mega Man Legends now because that's going to be one of our episodes of ah Archive, the upcoming ah retro show. So maybe this is just like me being like complaining. And now I'm realizing a bunch of my things are like also like, oh, maybe they'll bring back Dino Crisis. I'm like, that's another one. of Whoa, Skyz of Arcadia. That's another episode. what What am I doing? This is just like what this reading of the show, Wishful Thinking. um ah I'm curious if we see what um Mobius Digital has been working on. That is the Outer Wilds team. Outer Wilds came out in 2019. The Echoes of the Eye DLC was 21 or 22. And I'm just curious, like what does that team do next?
Outer Wilds Team's Next Move
01:15:26
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like That's always the crazy thing to see.
01:15:29
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you know it It feels like they're in that like echelon to me of like Team Cherry or um or ah the Stardew Valley guy where it's like you release like um a monumental generational game. What do you do next? um And obviously Team Cherry is working on more Hollow Knight with Silksong and everything, but do they continue that world? Yeah. I think the Outer Wilds team, Obious, it's a little different for them because I don't even think they were game devs really when they started, right? Like they were like some sort of like sciencey physics dudes. And like they had a school project that was sort of this sort of modular solar system thing. And then it became a game after the fact. They got Macioka to help. Right. For Hero himself. Yeah, Hero Nakamura, yeah.
01:16:17
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but um I'd be willing to bet that they don't double down on what Outer Wilds was, and that they do something fully out of the box if they are continuing to do something. Because otherwise, they might just be like, oh, well, we're tech guys. Like, we'll give out. The thing they would have to show is a tech demo that other people can use because they were never like into games at that stage in the first place. But I don't know. Because of this, they might be like, all right, well, what other super weird, brainiac-ass idea can we turn into a gaming experience? So I don't think it would be anything like Outer Wilds if they do have something to show.
01:16:56
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Yeah, we're in a yeah i'm i curious in terms of those indie follow-ups, like, you know, if we see the the the non-crank follow-up to um Return of the Obra Dinn from Lucas Pope, ah if we do see Silksong, there is, Keely said no Silksong at Summer Game Fest. However, Xbox has the marketing rights to that because it's coming to Game Pass. So, Shadow Drop at Xbox. Hmm. You think it'll shadow drop? Sure. Why not? Like it'll just imagine them coming out like a week and a half before they need it. They need to just shadow drop that game at this point. Yeah. Oh, my God. If they give a release date, people will not shut up without it. So just announcing just set it the day of shadow of the archery. Choose. It's just the fucking joker snapping a pool cue and half throwing it in the crowd and saying try. let's
01:17:48
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yeah they don't they don't need to spend marketing bucks on that thing no and um Yeah. I don't know. Like in terms of India, like there's just a bunch of Indies I know are going to be there from just developers being like, Oh, stay tuned for our next thing. Like the immortality team is working on a pair of games that they've already done. Kind of winkies that are going to be at one of the showcases.
Indie Showcase Excitement
01:18:09
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These two people do a lot of winkies on Twitter. I don't know if you notice this little coy winkies and there's just lots of winkies. Uh, and so, yeah, I'm, I'm excited for a lot of these. har Heart machine is teasing has a new game apparently being published by Devolver. Cause they were just teasing it the other day and it's very pixely looking. And it's not hyperlight. Hyperlight breaker. Yeah, that's weird. No, that's weird. Well, they had they are. They've had two games. ah Consistently now, because what was the other game they did before hyperlight breaker? ah Solar Ash. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was the same. Those were developed. Oh, I didn't realize at the same time. I thought they did a solar ash and then moved on to hyperlight breaker. Yeah. But yeah, maybe this is by the solar ash team. That'd be cool. Yeah, I'd like solar ash.
01:18:56
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Um, yeah, I mean, there's a, I'm sure we'll see cool shit, especially like the, that, that Friday night one's going to be between summer game fest and then day of the devs and devolver. I feel like there's going to be a lot of, a lot of cool shit on that release date for baby steps. Yeah, that's it this year. It's crazy how like this has already been like a completely crazy bonkers banner year for indies. Like if you just cut it off now, like there'd easily be like it would be out you games that have a hard time getting into the shortlist for indie game of the year. Um, and we have six months left in the year. So yeah. um Yeah. I'm just thinking about the idea of of them shadow dropping silk song after what they did to high five rush.
01:19:40
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like that i't But it's not like Microsoft doesn't own Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't own them. Yeah. Yeah. Like everyone is worried that Microsoft is going to close you down. Like I said, they can't. They don't own. It just leaves a bad tasting about that. You don't now have shadow job PTSD. They bought so much. Who knows what parent company actually owns Team Cherry? Embracer might own them. Who knows? Maybe Team Cherry was owned by the J.R. Tolkien Foundation. You know what? That's that's a game. Speaking of Embracer.
Darksiders and Xbox Collections
01:20:12
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desperately hope Gunfire Games is working on another Darksiders. I need it. I want it. Didn't they finish the, uh, all those wins? No, they never did. They never did a full game for strife. There's Darksiders Genesis made by Airship Syndicate, but it was a prequel co-op like top down game, but we haven't had a proper Darksiders game yet for him. And umm um I want it. I want it now. I don't think he deserves one. gochi where there i said it you avoid him
01:20:43
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we him What has Strife done for us lately? Getting voided over a Darksiders opinion. I did the Darksiders. I love it. Nick, you can't just, you only love games you did documentaries for. You just, you all you want is in good games all you want is Hot Cheeto, Kingdom Cove Deliverance, and Darksiders. And lie. And lie. That's all you want. That's all you want. All I want is Banjo. yeah I guess we all have a, we did a little meme and you didn't understand it. Yeah, that went over. You're not in the same weird corners of the internet that we're on. No, I'm not. And I'm happy for it. Um, got a couple of super chats that came in. Uh, Josh Knowles with $2 Dono, going back to our DBZ conversation. Kakarot is so fun. Asura's Wrath, but DBZ. Is that?
01:21:33
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Well, Dragon Ball Kakarot's like, because fucking I love us for his math. Wasn't that an open world RPG? I thought Kakarot was an open world RPG. Yeah. I own the game. I haven't played it. We're Kakarot. I'm probably going to find out Kakarot to find out. I will play it, but I will watch the anime alongside it and I will only play. I watch one episode of the anime and I will say I will play up to this point. That's what I'm going to do. That's not going to be much game, I promise. Like things move very slowly in that series. Uh, and then Eric with more arses. Thank you so much, Eric. Xbox shooter, obviously Redfall 2. Eric, you can't talk about studios that got shut down. They don't have health insurance anymore. Hmm. Uh, I wonder. I was going to say Microsoft has a lot of like third party deals in. Certain affinity has been working on something for a long time, and they've got a lot of stuff in development. and I wonder if we maybe see that.
01:22:32
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What? In Certain Affinity, the former the Halo folks? Yeah, Certain Affinity is basically a support studio, ah but they've been working on their own original IP ah for a while now. And they showed it off. They showed off it to publishers, I believe, back at sometime last year. But then they've also, as far as I remember, Jez was talking about a game they've been working on for quite a while. That's not that game. I forget what the details are on it, but you can look it up. And then their other game was like a web three thing that I don't I was like interested in and it never went anywhere.
01:23:14
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I feel like as soon as you start, as soon as the studio's like, we're doing a wet piece, three thing, I'm like, all right, peace. Go with God. Raymond Ward with five Australian dollars, thank you so much. I wonder if we get anything about Dragon Age four. It should be out this year, but I can't trust EA. More scuttlebutt saying, yeah, I mean, they announced last year that we were going to see Dragon Age this summer. whether that is in one of these showcases or if EA does their own thing later on this summer.
EA's Reputation and Future Games
01:23:38
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ah But the Scuttlebutt is yes, we're going to see Dragon Age and ah possibly even more. I do think it is possible at this Microsoft conference we get a handful of collections of things. there's been There's been talk about a Gears collection for quite ah quite a long time. I could see them doing it with the Fable trilogy.
01:23:55
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like a little juiced up Fable 1, 2, and 3. And maybe maybe someone does something with the old Dragon Age games. It's been a long time since Dragon Age, so maybe they want to get it back into back into people's memories, like they did the yeah the Mass Effect, ah whatever that was, Shepherd Collection. or On that CERT Infinity game, it's called Codename Project Swerte. And Swerte is reportedly a monster hunter-inspired game, employed in big monster battles with multiplayer gameplay. The game is developed by CERT Infinity. Uh, and then they, I think just said he was expecting it for a 20, 20, three meal. What? He said, jazz. Oops. No, he said, jazz, jes jazz, jazz, cordon, cordon. Oh, you can't. People don't know who jazz are. You can't just say jazz. Well, I said his name earlier. You just weren't listening. But yeah, that that that might be one of those surprise.
01:24:49
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Surprised as we get at the Xbox Showcase. Speaking of Monster Hunter likes and EA, this is a serious question. Has EA done anything bad in the last like 12, 15 months? Oh, because you're thinking of what's it called? Wild Hunt? No, Wild Hearts. Wild Hearts, yeah. Wild Hearts. yeah Like the last couple of EA originals haven't been, you know, micro-transaction-y, nonsense-filled, whatever. like They've been like pretty awesome released, like Tails of Conzerazale being the most recent one. I'm trying to think, like ah outside of like their staples, which are Apex Legends, which I don't think there's a ton of heat on. like I don't think they do yeah they didn't do anything crazy there. Battlefield has not been a train wreck since they sort of fixed a bunch of stuff in it. like
01:25:41
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Like, are we still mad at EA? Dead Space was really good. Dead Space was really good. No, it feels like the ISR on the dawn, right? Yeah. It seems like the, yeah, because I mean, we got, last year had, in terms of EA originals, Tales of Conzera's Isle was a few months ago. Last year had Immortals of Avium and Wild Hearts, which, you know, Immortals of Avium What's the good view that you enjoyed morals of avium without you know i like all of those things like i for some reason got to review and play and like i like them like they're not. The trip the same triple a nonsense but they do have big budgets but they feel like games like these are fun but they feel kind of like how double a deal with maybe a little more budget attached to. them
01:26:21
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love tune is like ah this I thought this is what we wanted you to be doing like why are why are we still mad at them will have to see they have ncaa football coming back finally i want to see the right is the station is for that i'm really curious about that because if they're selling microtransactions based on the appearances of college players i wonder if they get a cut of that. I think that's why the the game's coming back because, yeah think and what they they know yeah, they made a deal that they can't use or they have to pay them to use their likenesses. right i'm I'm not sure if that applies to microtransactions, too, because they have to pay out money to a bunch of athletes. They might actually be. a
01:27:00
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a little bit more careful like ocreious sex with that game. But yeah, they got skate on the way to which I'm interested to see on how that that holds up micro transaction wise, because that has room to be very, ah very lucrative for all the skateboard customization and all that character customization. Yeah, some people were tweeting out that like there was like a big press kit for that people in LA had for skates I'm imagining we see that one in the showcases. Yeah, they're they're also working on but a black panther and an Iron Man game and then there's that Yeah, the black band game is separate from the Captain America and black panther game set during World War two Showed from that look pretty pretty awesome chance yeah Yeah, yeah, I know that's why I said this bike ran through one is separate from back it and we haven't seen anything actually core from their Black Panther games, so
01:27:50
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Yeah, yeah, I'm curious we see anything from Marvel in those games or if I don't know I don't think Wolverine's far enough along for them to show it You think we'll see more of a blade? No where it feels Yeah, that feels like at the game Awards. They were like it exists. See you guys soon um that kind of thing Yeah, yeah, I i yeah I guess I would say like that I'm much like Xbox I'm super curious about battlefield what the future looks like for that franchise.
Call of Duty's Anime Crossovers
01:28:14
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Yeah, so 2042 Got there in the end for some people but definitely never Never really reclaimed itself like it wanted to so they just ended all support for it after the last update So rip it was at least content updates battlefield They kind of put Gundams in it They put Gundams in Call of Duty and now Call of Duty is doing fine Call of Duty was in a lot of trouble until they put those Gundams in
01:28:39
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I saw some footage of that around the restroom again, but you guys can it looks terrible, doesn't it? It looks genuinely terrible. It looks so bad. They've been messing around with anime in Call of Duty, right? And every time, at least that I've taken notice, it has looked terrible. Like there was a crossover. Yeah, that's right. That looked really bad. Yeah. Nicki Minaj looked great, weirdly enough. She's not an anime character, but it also seems incongruous with that world. But you know what? she looks like Yeah. Yeah. um
01:29:11
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S6 with $10 Australian dollars, thank you so much, S6. Dreamhaven, Mike Morheim's new studio, just put out a call for play testers. We haven't seen anything from that studio yet, so maybe they're going to start announcing. Mike Morheim was the one of the co-founders of Blizzard. So I imagine Dreamhaven... Well, I guess I don't... I don't know. I always assume when someone co-found something that does something else that it's like, oh, you're going to do something similar to what you're known for. So it's like, oh, you're going to do... Yeah, but I don't know whether that means something like Warcraft, something like Starcraft, something like World of Warcraft. But maybe he's just funding some other new creatives venture, right? Like he's got the connections and some upstart is going to be his money train. Yeah. His money train. Love it. Love it. His money train. Joel Rau with two euros. Thank you so much. Have some more money. I enjoy the content. Mwah. Ooh, woo.
01:30:05
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Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. They got a little uncomfortable at the end, but we'll take it. With a little bit of oom. Blind man V2 with a $2.00 donor. Thoughts on a new MMO RPGs or CRPGs? I need time sinks. We appreciate your $2. I feel like we're the last people to ask about that. Yeah, Nick might have been the person to talk at all about both of those.
Gaming Giants: MMOs and Amazon's Role
01:30:26
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Maybe CRPGs more than the MMO RPGs, but I think he's probably played a bit of both. I'm not a big fan of MMO RPGs. Yeah. I haven't found a CRPG that is like really hooked me yet either, but. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, like what's the most what's the most popular one still going right now? It can't still be. It's Final Fantasy 14, right?
01:30:48
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problem i don't Yeah, player count wise, I don't know if WoW has still has more over Final Fantasy 14. I feel like Final Fantasy 14 is the um most beloved, I guess. no But then like there was some Guild Wars 2 shit just dropped and people were really excited for it. Elder Scrolls Online is still a thing too, right? ESO is still a thing, yeah. I'm sure there's other, I don't know. Age of Conan, does that still exist? That might have been like 15 years ago. ah Yeah, I don't know. was Amazon's new world doing. I don't think Amazon's new world is does it still exist? Is that yeah is that still good? Sure. Does Amazon have any games still good? Are they still a game publisher?
01:31:31
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Sure. I don't count like Destiny as like an MMO. I know Destiny is an MMO. It's an MMO with Jason. It borrows MMO elements. Yeah, I think an MMO is a lot of clicking. I know if you're playing in a mouse, Destiny has a lot of clicking, but like, yeah. Secret World, EverQuest, that can't exist anymore. Eve Online, that's a big one. We did a documentary on that. Nick's going to come back and just be like, I want to talk about Eve. My favorite game ever. this thera i ever um Sorry. If it kills Amazon games confirmed that they will be on Summer Game Fest. Oh, and oh that was yeah. Okay. Be there. Oh, look at that. What Jeffrey Bay was possibly have to tell us.
01:32:15
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i've I have no idea what Amazon Games is going to go to tell us about. more i like we don't even own it age I want someone to on stage and explain why I ordered a keyboard the other day. Like it's just a little keyboard like a cheap $5 keyboard for my Steam Deck when I had it docked. And it just came in a keyboard box. There was just no packaging around it. I don't know what to do with that. I don't mind it. It's just weird that there was like a keyboard box just left outside my house. Not bad. I'm curious. Not bad. I just want some explanations. yeah I mean, you're saving the environment, which is fine, which is great. who The keyson keyboard company. I call the keyboard company. What's happening, Eric? I should check it. Amazon game has throne and leader tea coming soon, and blue protocol. So you have... Oh, okay. I've heard of blue protocol. I have heard of blue protocol. yeah that was yeah Yeah. Is that like a propaganda?
01:33:10
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i don't think it it's ah It's an anime action hack-'em-up or something like that. No, no, no. that's ah that That might be an MMO, I think, but has like some of that flashy anime nonsense strapped into it. Flashy anime nonsense. the biggies. Yeah, at this point, we're kind of just babbling on things. So, yeah, we'll, we'll obviously, we're we're looking forward to all this stuff. For a showcase, ah tomorrow, the Gorilla Collective will be at noon central, and then all of the Friday festivities will begin at 4pm central, and that's when the three of us will be on for... a Summer Game Fest Devolver and Double Fine's Day of the Devs. I got a hard hard out in 20 minutes, but we got we got a couple, everyone everyone bring one thing to the table that they were really excited about. What was one thing we really liked?
01:33:59
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that we played, that we watched, that we ate. And we ate. Some of your chat was making jokes. No, I yeah actually had a sweatshirt on because I was having shivers before the podcast. You thing like you don't have to do the podcast negative. yeah um and well I will find out if I'm sick. No. Uh, but, uh, yeah, for my thing, I, yeah, I just blasted through, nah. Uh, Tarantino's Wonderland's over the weekend. Well, it started on Friday night and finished it on Sunday afternoon. Uh, had a really, really good time with it, actually. It was just kind of relaxing to play a shooter. Um, not really a whole lot to say about it, because it's, it's, didn't really care about the story or anything. It was, it was just kind of fun to run around, collect loot and shoot shit for a while.
01:34:48
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um But it did ah inspire me to jump right into Destiny the Final Shape, which I've been really enjoying. I played some more of that this afternoon. I like how you did a sneaky a little twosome. I said you get one thing and you did a sneaky little twosome, which I like, because I was also going to ask you about the acolyte, which will give you a sneaky threesome. Everyone loves a sneaky threesome.
Destiny's Final Shape and Space Settings
01:35:06
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i want I want to play my threesome from the top. tell Yeah, I even I really haven't been that involved a destiny since probably I think I i think I did the which queen campaigns. I put it on my list of completed games, I believe.
01:35:21
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ah And i did not I did not like lightfall at all. I played through maybe the first couple missions of that. I was bored immediately. There was like nothing interesting about the environments or anything. ah But the final shape feels like a whole new game to me. You get like the whole new subclass, which mixes light and dark together, which is really neat. Everything feels like I have more control over my character in terms of like how I want my build to be. ah And then, obviously, the new location is the Star, which is like the most unique and interesting location they've done, I think, since... yeah I guess the Dreaming City, even though I think the Dreaming... Yeah, that purple coast place, right? Yeah. No, actually... ah Yeah, for for so Forsaken was that really new, cool location. I think the Dreaming City was more randomized stuff, correct?
01:36:16
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I think you're thinking of the infinite forest, maybe. Yeah, that might be what I'm thinking about. I don't know, but they don't. Yeah, it's all. Yes, that's what he's got. I love their dumbass name and schemes. At least as far as the final shape goes, though, this feels like what doesn't three good feel like to me, much more like connected world, bigger areas to explore. a much more varied combat encounters, too. So I'm on only about four missions in, but I definitely want to like get back to it tonight and play more. It's been a good time. And the story is like coherent to me, even the story is actually coherent to me, even though I haven't like kept up with Destiny Lord very closely. Like, are you going to go through that case?
01:37:00
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All I needed was the slightest nudge of someone saying, hey, this is pretty fun. And I was probably going to do it. So the reaction I'm saying online, people are like, oh, this is like a real good campaign. So. So fuck it. Yeah, I guess I got to buy the final shape and try to get back in the dusty to again. Just when you figure out it feels it feels like very old school bungee. This campaign like big, big epic moments with like great music and everything just More more of the bungee I want to see I will say Nice, and I just yeah, I really hope if they do a destiny 3 which I'm sure they will I just want to want them to see them go like way more creative with their environments and they end up doing for a lot of destiny 2 Cool I think I think I think space is kind of boring. and
01:37:49
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My hat take is the reason these everyone star feels like everything's kind of boring. I'm like, you know, what's boring? Space. Space. Starfield is boring. It's I boring out there. It's boring out there. Realistic space is boring. Destiny's Space is not realistic. And it's really cool looking. I thought you just said it was boring, though. You said you want less boring. As a setting space, you can put whatever you want in it. You can go to any planet and the planet is boring. As long as it's boring, you can put it out there. As long as it's boring. There's no rules. The only rule is it's got to be boring.
01:38:20
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I mean, Starfield adhered to that rule. I feel like Star Wars is the culprit of that, because it's like, the imagination, the sky's the limit. What about the desert planet? What about all the sand? What about the cheap rate on filming in Tunisia we had in 1977?
Acolyte Series and Star Wars Diversity
01:38:35
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Can we go back there? Sure. The most interesting visually spaced game is EverSpace 2. There's so much color and space in that game. I like Chorus. Their space was pretty colorful. Oh, Chorfs? Yeah, Chorfs. I almost brought that up this morning when Yotzi was talking about female Ludd games. and I was going to say Chorfs. Yeah, Chorfs. I never played Chorfs, so i don't I don't know anything about Chorfs. Yeah, the story's not a high point of that game. and The last space thing, Nick, you were you according to Twitter, you were underwhelmed by the first two episode episodes of the Acolyte. I have not watched them yet, so I do not have an opinion.
01:39:13
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Yes, it's. I don't want to put your words in your mouth, maybe or maybe you weren't underwhelmed by them, but I know I'm trying to I'm trying to think of how to word it because like I know like. I love the soca, I know a lot of people didn't. I was fine and I really loved and or two, so like my Star Wars tastes kind of just the the problem I have with the alkali visually, it's really good, like it feels like and or and soca quality. Like, I feel like they're really figured out, like, hey, we can't use the ah whatever is called for everything volume. Yeah, we can't use the volume for everything. ah The sections that do use the volume are still obvious, but there's still a lot more on location stuff that they did.
01:39:57
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i The problem I have with the acolyte is like it kind of drops you in the middle of the story rather than like the beginning. And so like almost immediately the pacing of the entire show feels off. Like I feel like I missed like a whole introduction that I needed. And it gives you like the show has an extremely cold open, ah which I'm not going to spoil, but you will be surprised by considering the character art on the on the screen right now that Eric showing. ah And then from there, it just kind of gets right into the thick of the plot.
01:40:28
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and i'm like wait a second like where's the where's the world building i need to i need like we're in a whole new era of star wars in the high republic and i'm not getting any of this world building of like what's different about this era why you know what's it's just more star wars right it doesn't like it doesn't feel different and especially because i've read the books the books have a very Maybe the word pompous feeling to them for like the Jedi that they're either like at their height of their power. Sure. Everything is kind of it's a golden age downfall. Yeah. Yeah. He was in the US to Sony era. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. $600. $599.99. That's what the high republic is now. You're all going to lap it up. But overall, like the the casting is pretty good. The dialogue.
01:41:19
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kinda is in the middle of like Ahsoka and Mandalorian or is a little bit choppy, a little bit like to almost too to the point and not enough like conversations like you had in Andor. ah So it's it's it's yeah and it's a middle of the road. I wouldn't say it's like the strongest first two episodes, but I mean, I definitely still want to watch it. It's different. It's very different for Star Wars, which I like. But I think I think it's going to be a very much a you either like it or really don't like a show. And obviously, you know, and that's just what Star Wars is now yeah that's what that's what star wars is nowadays.
Revisiting House of the Dragon
01:41:54
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It's not like a that's what Star Wars has always been aside from the original trilogy, I guess.
01:42:00
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Yeah, I mean, there's nothing like you can't just like everything, you know. Yeah. Star Trek fans, you can't like everything in Star Trek, right? There's got to be stuff. Lord of the Rings. Love those three Lord of the Rings movies. Get the fucking Hobbit out of here. What are we going to do? I'd literally rather play Gollum than watch those Hobbit movies. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. I haven't watched it yet. The Star Wars fans set their standards to low. I don't think anybody I don't even know what the standard is for Star Wars now. I don't even know what a Star Wars fan is anymore. Yeah. Star Wars made by someone who fucking hates Star Wars. Because, so yeah, like hardcore Star Wars fans didn't like Andor, but like normal people that will aren't in huge in the Star Wars did. A bunch of weenies. um Speaking of speaking of shows, I'm the one thing I'm bringing the table. Not a video game. I'm rewatching House of the Dragon. What a program. What a program started tonight. What a goddamn program.
01:42:57
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it doesn are Six episodes of the 10. We did the time jump. It was sad to see. I thought those two actors, the two leads were great, but the time jump, I think, works. It is very like rewatching it and knowing where it's going, it's easier to keep up with, but I just remember in the time being like, fucking what? They got a bunch of kids now? How did this happen? Like, weren't you a kid before? How do you get a bunch of kids? It was very quick, yeah. How many babies is this for you? but uh yeah it's it's it's really good and i'm i'm really excited for season two i um you know that season two is kind of where i feel you know game of thrones
01:43:35
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feels like by season two, it really started coming into its own. Its budget was increased, had born more viewership. um I'm hoping to see that sort of step up, like ah more of a confidence in the storytelling, less set
The Book of Clarence Review
01:43:47
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dressing. like I think the time jumps are done. like This is the era the show is set in now, as opposed to jumping five years every episode. ah So I'm i'm really looking forward to it. And that premieres in two weeks, I believe. Alright, it's good good summer for a good good month for kind of nerdy shows like that. We got the boys coming back Yes, we dropped tomorrow the last season. the I didn't know they're still making that that's the that's final All the yeah, yeah, that was good. Yeah, that was a really good season if it drops tomorrow. I'm gonna get back on that. My season two is really good. There you go. ah Casey, what about you?
01:44:25
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um I wanted to talk about this a while ago, but freak forgot, but not because it's bad. I watched the book of Clarence, which is that ah Netflix movie starring Lakeith Stanfield. That's oh yeah sort of like a ah black fanfic retelling of um events surrounding like the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. It's a really out there premise. Yeah, like it stars a character who essentially is a con man during that time period. And he like Jesus and his 12 disciples are out in the world. um And he sees that as like a way to basically not be like a bum on the streets. And he kind of becomes sort of ah a counter messiah and creates this following. But like it's it's a like if you if you grew up in like the Catholic Church, if you know like these stories,
01:45:19
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like it adheres very well to those things, but then like kind of places things a little off-center and makes you see them from like a slightly different perspective. It's like the perfect way to mess around in that setting, like the way a lot of like Greek mythology likes to just take things and like play with them. This feels more like this might have been how things happened, like that might have been a person in that time period, like that that's how well
Nine Souls: A Hollow Knight Comparison
01:45:43
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they do it. It has a lot of the same energy of like In Atlanta, I would say because like it's it's self-serious, but also kind of comedic and surreal all at once. Sure.
01:45:54
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And like it it has a lot to say. like It's not playing all of this storyteller. It's not playing in the Bible just for like shock factor. It has a message that is telling you over the course of the story, and it is fantastic. like i was I ended up watching this next to my parents, because we were all in California for that trip. And they're like Bible thumpers. They were glued to the TV. because they were like, oh, that's Barabbas, that's Pontius Pilate, blah, blah. And there's a lot of cameos in this. Benedict Cumberbatch has like a sneaky ass cameo in this movie. Kicking back door Benedict. Like it was it was awesome. Like I didn't like this was recommended by my friend ah Jeff to me and he because he was like, oh, yeah, you like interreligious stuff. Right. like yeah I think you might like this. And I did not expect to like it as much as I did. Like I I think it's amazing. Yeah. What's it called? um ah The Book of Clarence.
01:46:45
Speaker
Looks really interesting. Yeah, I have ah ive I have season tickets to look eat Stanfield. He's great ticket yeah got season tickets for He's attached to star in the El Paso elsewhere movie. in produce yeah i saw Yeah, I saw that in the game too. Yeah Yeah. all that Anytime a video game thing gets announced, I have ah like a grain of salt, but um having someone attached to it is usually a good sign. They also just announced casting for the Watch Dogs series. There's a Watch Dogs series? Well, I see.
01:47:16
Speaker
Did I know this? You should know. I might have known this. I might have known this. They announced the Watch Dogs and a division thing in the Assassin's Creed thing. what these that out I remember the Creed thing. There was supposed to be a Rainbow Six thing forever ago. Watch Dogs movie. It's a movie, not a TV series. I'm blank. All I want is that Rainbow Six movie with Michael B. Jordan. Put together a squad. I just started cheering. Stand up and cheer. Casey, I want to give you a second sneaky back to one. Nine Souls. Can we talk about Nine Souls? Yeah, yeah. I'm currently playing Nine Souls. I want to say I'm about halfway through that game. I was very hyped for this after playing its Steam demo. It is living up to the hype. That's awesome. So much. Well, he started by saying I was hyped for it because I was hyped. I was very hyped for it. So like going into it, like I had high expectations. It's meeting them like I like the. It feels like what Hollow Knight did in the Dark Souls sort of 2D world for second row.
01:48:24
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like but But at the same time, like it's not fully combat-based. It is a super competent Metroidvania as well. So there's all the exploration, there's abilities that you know get you here and there. There are cool characters that you meet. There's a really interesting, ah yeah, the the on the screen, just a towel punk as a setting. like I've never seen a setting like that, but like I effing love it. loved how punk like let's really Like the art is gorgeous. Sound design. Amazing. Like music. Fantastic. Like I'm loving this game. I don't expect it to fall off in the back half, but like um i I want to get to the end of it before I ah do my review. um But it's it's it's tough. Like you're gonna you're gonna have to like ah
01:49:05
Speaker
I wouldn't say it's as tough as Sekiro or even Hollow Knight for that matter, but it is tough. like it it It's going to demand you to use all the buttons on your controller, especially when they start throwing a lot of combat encounters at you. ah But again, I'm only halfway through. I'm sure it's going to continue to ramp up because like some of the platform stuff is starting to get real trial-y as well. some ah Some people I know online who are are there's like a small group of like really outspoken like this game is incredible no one's talking about it kind of feeling under the radar they also said like the stories surprisingly good like there's surprise yeah like i'm I'm really digging the plot so far like like
01:49:43
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I think it's telegraphing a little bit, kind of what it's big, like dramatic beat is, but I don't know because I haven't reached it yet. So we'll we'll see if I guess my theory is proven right, or if it it's like completely different when I was thinking and then that blows my mind somehow. I'm like, i' been so this is a knife soul? What? see honest this But no like, yeah, i I like all of the characters that I interact with, I give a shit about. And like, that's that's good. Like, you don't get that all the time. Yeah. Uh, that's great. Yeah, I'm excited. That's, that's on my big list of things to play along with 10,000 other things.
Animated Series Lineage
01:50:20
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Uh, Nordic with a $5 don't know. Thank you so much. Uh, has anyone at second wind watched has been a hotel or hell of a boss? That is not my obsession. Yeah. Has been hotel. We've we've talked about has been a hotel before. Cause that's kind of in that Uber of, of animated series that we like, but.
01:50:37
Speaker
It's like has been hotels from the Steven Universe person. Someone who works on or Adventure Time. I don't make that up. No, I don't know. Actually, I mean, a lot a lot of the a lot of the cartoon shows in this ilk do have that lineage. It's like someone who was underneath like a showrunner for an Adventure Time or Steven Universe like they just bring yeah and do their own thing. So I would not be surprised if that's the case. Yeah, I think that's how we got that. Like Midnight Gospel and stuff like that. Yeah, that was like some Adventure time adjacent people. Yeah. Yeah, that's like ah the old like looking glass tree where it's like Oh people who worked on these games have gone off to form all these different studios. So like the the DNA is still there And then spirit core with five dollar down. Oh, thank you so much. Thanks for all the years of coverage and amusement I'm so glad to see second wind flourishing.
Future Projects and Content Previews
01:51:21
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Here's for the Eric needs a better mic fund.
01:51:25
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Eric, that $5 is yours. you could take it You can do whatever you want with it. You can give it a fifth a fifth super chat if you want. Who knows? The world's world is your oyster. We're participating at that fifth super chat from Eric. and I can't believe what it is. I can't believe what's going to come. It's going to be amazing when it gets here. We can wrap it up there. I gotta leave, I gotta leave, son. We're fine grabbing up there. You guys keep talking. I'm just not gonna leave. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, as we mentioned before, we have ah our Summer Game Fest coverage starts ah tomorrow. It's gonna be at noon central. Frost will be joining us and we'll be watching that Gorilla Collective live. ah Tomorrow will still be DMC, we'll be starting DMC. Casey and I will be normal time. So we're gonna cry DMC, speaking of Ninja Theory. Hopefully this game turns out better than
01:52:15
Speaker
Oh, I don't want to say better than how they took. So I haven't played it yet. And Nick likes it. And Nick was attacked for his opinions at a meeting earlier. And I tried to defend her. like while i' and youre You guys are being dramatic. We just asked Nick to review the game. Eddie, you guys called the new cock landra in the meeting. People tried to throw knives at me through their computer screen. No, we called them. They got to defend this bitch. Oh, you did it. ah So yeah, tune in for that and then, ah yeah, Friday we'll be back. We gotta, man, I gotta, how if I not request it like a little, just an image document that we could have all the streaming times? How do I fuck that up? Maybe I could do that now. Okay, at some point we're gonna have an image with all this stuff. But ah Friday, we'll be back 4 p.m. Central ah for Summer Game Pass Live, Day of the Devs, Devolver.
01:53:02
Speaker
Maybe cheeky metaphor refantasia that I just scream out to the void. We'll see Saturday morning. We'll be starting at 10 a.m. Central with Frost doing future play wholesome Latin American games women-led game showcase and the future game show Sunday noon Central case will be joining us again. We'll be doing the Xbox showcase ah Black Ops 6 and the PC gaming show there will be no newly released on Sunday. It is another Australian holiday. and Let me tell you those bank holidays again there's There's too many of them. We got to get rid of the bank holidays. We got to defund the bank holidays. Bank holidays like every other week.
01:53:37
Speaker
It's just a fucking bank holiday, I love it. And then Monday, 2 p.m. Central, Ubisoft Forward, which Casey will not be involved in. A lot of flicks of interest. I will be at work while that's happening. You can't be like, ooh, bank holiday music. ah Yeah, and then we'll see if third Nintendo Direct gets announced, we'll be doing that. All the all the goodies, so um tune in for those. And one last Super Chat. ah ah Gearless, with $100. No, no, two. Two last Super Chats. Oh, no, one. Spirit core. No, we already read that. Oh, we did. Oh, my bad. Sorry. We rest. We rest. You're listening to the whole boy land. Gonna keep the lights on. Uh, and for the new Mike, I don't know if Eric is this whole hundred dollar one. He got the whole five dollar one. The whole hundred dollar one seems excessive. You get your new bike for the whole hundred dollar don't know seems excessive. Uh, but thank you so much. Uh,
01:54:32
Speaker
yeah Nick, where can folks find you? what What should folks check out? You can find me on Twitter, which is public again, because I'm staying out of drama. Next week I'll have a new video. I'm proud of you. I have. I'll have a new episode of Unpacked Up next Thursday covering a Wayfinder, which went from a live service failure because the publisher pulled out to suddenly now it's a premium product and it's actually pretty damn fun. uh so that'll be pull out you should uh you should have your headline be from pull out to premium oh no
01:55:07
Speaker
No, this is why I don't serve to sell our work shopping. I thought we were workshopping. But other than that, for us and I will be back to start Call of Duty. Maybe we we will be. I don't remember. I don't. There's no ah image with the schedule on it. So I don't know what time all those streams are. But on Friday, if there's not a showcase stream, we'll be back to start Call of Duty. to You're not started call duty jee okay no starting no, I'm not starting. He's at noon and at four p.m. Central, the summer game has left. Shit. OK, you can sneak it in there between two and four. if I don't want to take things in between things. That's how you get crazy. Casey, ah you guys could find me at City of Gears 9 all over the Internet. um Yeah, all the all the stuff for the Summer Game Fest that Marty mentioned, I'm going to be participating in. um Based on those times, I think by seven p.m., we're clear, right?
01:55:59
Speaker
Like, we're not... a Devolver is at 7 p.m. Central, so that's 8 p.m. 8 p.m. OK, so ah not going to have wedding streams because I'm going to be working on that stuff. um But ah next time we do have them, ah Starboy is in town. My son will be back. So we'll be having like three person family streams. I think I'm going to have him actually play stuff. And then me and my fiance Kia can actually just interact with chat because that duality has been a little rough when we actually try to concentrate on a game so he can be the game stooge. um And also the Sackboy game. Yeah, I might do that. I might honestly do that. ah But he's making his way through Tears of the Kingdom. And I've been getting to see a lot more of that game. I've seen a lot more of that game thanks to him. um So since I don't have to mess with the menu, I can see what's good in it without experiencing the bat. So that's been fun. Bad game to Tears of the Kingdom. I didn't say anything. But how outside of on that. ah
01:56:56
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, Jess just released a dope, uh, three MR on, um, tales of candle tales of candle forth, which I held edit. So check that out. Um, and keep a lookout probably sometime next week for my nine souls, uh, bite size as well. That's it. So I got. Have you played It Takes Two with your with your fiance? Yeah, we got near the end, but it it wouldn't end. So we kind of got tired of it. Did you like get to what's the elephant's name? Cutie. Yeah, we got we got to the part where we killed you. So funny. It is. It is never surprising to me that you love that part. Never surprising. Never. Never. My favorite moment with Yahtzee is our surprise at that that home home.
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It was good. It was a good game. A little long in the tooth. Agree with that. but Yeah, just it just went a little too long and we got tired and moved on. The the whole Heavens section at the end is unnecessary. Yeah. just like life and yeah that part for that yeah just check out um mostly if you've probably already seen it but we released our six month update to the channel there ah you could check out that video on all the cool stuff we have in the works including adventures ni the remaster starting this weekend that'll be saturday or sunday yeah saturday saturday just every Saturday now until the heat death of the universe. ah There's an Adventurer's Night season four teaser in there. There's the announcement of the rewind, our new upcoming entertainment show. All you moony heads out there. All you Darrin's. That'll be launching this summer. Same thing with the my new series I'm working on with Javed called the Archive, which is all about those old games we were talking about, including Mega Man Legends, Skyz Barcadia, Parasite Eve, all those goodies. So that's, we got so much stuff for you guys. We're excited for it all. ah But yeah, thank you guys so much. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Nick. Thank you, Casey. For Marty, this was Firelink episode number 24. Thank you all so much, everyone watching live, everyone listening on on your podcast services or choices or watching the VODs. And we'll be back tomorrow at noon with the first of many Summer Game Fest showcases of the Gorilla Collective. So we'll see you then. Bye, everyone. Bye, guys.