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Episode 68 - Town 1 Bournemouth 2 - Late Late Heartache At Portman Road
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On today's show, Richard and Tom look back on Sunday's heartbreaking loss to Bournemouth. The Cherries nabbed 2 late goals to leave Portman Road with all 3 points. The lads give their thoughts on the current shape of the squad. With established players from previous seasons proving their worth and new signings making mistakes, does the starting 11 need a revamp?
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Ipswich's Late Defeat Analysis
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello, welcome back to another edition of the Daily Ipswich here on the Global Sports Podcast Network. Late, late heartache at Portland Road once again for McKenna's side. Very disappointing outcome to what was a very good performance to start the game with. Ipswich losing 2-1 to Bournemouth yesterday at Portland Road to help me dissect yesterday's game. I'm joined by Richard Popwell. How are you doing, Richard?
00:00:34
Richard
Oh, I'm all right, mate. I mean, God.
00:00:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:00:40
Richard
Yeah, I mean, I thought, you know, obviously, a couple of hours ago or a few hours ago, I thought we'd be coming on here and talking about W number two. And and it wasn't meant to be.
00:00:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Me too.
00:00:51
Richard
ah Yeah, I mean, very disappointing, very deflating all of the D's. But, you know, we've got to dissect it. So let's let's do it.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
absolutely. Going into um today's game, like you said, like, I think it was one of those games we thought we could maybe get something
Challenges and Struggles
00:01:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
out. I remember you said last week, like you you would have taken three points from either Palace or Forest and would have been happy with a loss. Lost both of them. So, you know, I guess not what we really wanted from that. what's What's your overall thoughts on just the result in general? And like, you know, this past week, if you want to wrap up you this past week from Forest to to Sunday, it's it's been but a tough seven or eight days, isn't it?
00:01:30
Richard
I mean, the results have been a disaster, haven't they? Let's let's not let's not um you know beat you about the bush here. Yeah, they've been they've been terrible. Obviously, the the the Forest performance was pretty poor, but then Forest weren't very good either.
00:01:43
Richard
and The Palace one was potentially even worse. That was really, really flat and a very poor game. And and then we played pretty decently, really, in in this game against Bournemouth pretty well.
00:01:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:01:56
Richard
But obviously has been as has happened a few times already this season, we're conceding late goals and um you know the power that we can bring off the bench just isn't there compared to other teams. And that that I think is catching us out late in games. And I think particular particularly with the three game week, you've kind of seen Bournemouth who have had a brilliant week, particularly the last couple of results have been fantastic and that you know they have got power off the bench to bring on and and and change the game and obviously it worked for them today.
00:02:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Hmm.
00:02:25
Richard
and But yeah, hugely disappointing week. I mean, all of the results are very disappointing but I suppose this one more than most because you know we were ahead with with a couple of minutes to go.
00:02:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, with this one, you know, you mean obviously, raw emotions immediately after it is more doomed than it is like, happy happy side of it, you know, like I just said, I think if you look at these three results in of of but but past three results, I should say, there's more to take from on a positive, that you know, we were leading for a long time, I think, you know, ah some of the football we were playing in the first half especially was some of the best we've played all season and it's just you know i think that sometimes what makes it even worse isn't it when you have like a really great performance and a lot of players jelling well together we'll go through like the starting 11 and the game in more finer detail later on the show but just certain players back in the team or getting their chance really really flourishing it was there were nice things to see just getting ah McKenna's thoughts on the game i sort of paraphrased some of the things he said after um
00:03:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
First thing was just saying how devastated everyone is in the changing
McKenna's Insights and Team's Future
00:03:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
room. just it's you know You're losing like that, you're gonna, I think it's probably hurts, went more than the Leicester end because it ended in a loss rather than a draw as well there. so Obviously they're feeling just as much as we are in, in the trenches as well, which is really sad thing to see. One of the things McKenna said, and you know, I think we kind of all echo this i as saying we don't really deserve to lose that game, but that's football. But you know, straight says we're back fighting next week. And the the standout thing of what you said after game for me was see, so I don't feel like I do feel we should have had more points than we have at this point of the season. Like, and I'm, I'm, I'm complete agreement about
00:04:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's so so fine margins we're seeing this season from where we could could have potentially been to where we are. And it's still a long way to go, but it's it's four points away from safety now. it's It's going to get tougher and tougher as the weeks go on, isn't it?
00:04:13
Richard
Yeah, I mean, look, it's looking very difficult. I think at this stage, and it would take it would take a really big turnaround in the second half of the season to salvage it. and And I think McKenna's right. And I think you're right. And I think everyone's kind of feeling a very similar thing that, you know, we've played, we've been very competitive in in most of these games, but you know we've only won one of the games. So we we can kind of like call that out and say that we've we've been unlucky or perhaps we haven't got the points that we deserve, that the poor performances deserve, but the results are what they are. So yes, we can take some confidence from that. And I think arguably if we had better players and if we had a better bench and a stronger squad and didn't maybe have the injuries that we'd had, then then we could be in a different position. But that's all ifs and buts. And it doesn't really matter at the end of the day.
00:05:00
Richard
I guess why why that is important though that is that we're only 15 games into the season and McKenna needs to, it's his job to keep the morale up and keep the performances up and and they have been good for the most part apart from maybe you know two or three games where we've where we've not been at the level of the opposition.
00:05:18
Richard
and Yeah, so I think he's right. And I think what you're always going to get from him is like a really honest appraisal of of the games and stuff. And he's always been really pragmatic and and you know very clear about where he thinks the club are in terms of but the squad quality and stuff.
00:05:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:05:36
Richard
and And I think that's proving basically to you know every Saturday and Wednesday when when these results are coming out.
00:05:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:05:43
Richard
At the moment, we're just not quite at the required level.
Premier League Challenges and Lineup Decisions
00:05:45
Richard
And that's that's kind of where why we are where we are, I think.
00:05:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Hmm. Very much so. But I think, you know, it's also when the results of this close as well is what makes it even more heartbreaking when we could have been, you know, potentially on 15, 17 points or something now, but we're still on that unfortunate nine.
00:05:53
Richard
Yeah.
00:06:00
Richard
would we take getting Would we prefer getting battered ah and being um being completely out of our depth in 75% of the games and winning the other 25% of the games?
00:06:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah.
00:06:10
Richard
you know it's It's tricky, isn't it? Because like we are competitive all the time, but we're just not getting the results.
00:06:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Hmm.
00:06:14
Richard
But I don't know. ah and it's its Life in the Premier League is pretty pretty brutal. to
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, as many teams are finding it. We're going to take our first break and we come back. We're going to dissect the game and just look at some of the key moments from the first 45.
00:06:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we're back here on the daily switch, looking back at town's 2-1 loss at Portman Road. I'm to Bournemouth at Portman Road. I should have said over the weekend at Portman Road.
00:06:59
Richard
at Polaroid.
00:07:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Looking at the starting 11, slightly different from um the Palace game on Tuesday night. I had a back four of Johnson, O'Shea, Burgess and Davis. So Johnson and Burgess coming into the team now after Greaves had a ah a brief cameo back in the starting night. It wasn't even on the bench this week, so I assume an injury is plaguing him once again. Midfield pairing of Sam Wausey and Jack Taylor. Front three of the Murray Hutchins and Sam Smodak and the fantastic Connor Chapman, we'll get into in a bit. And obviously, Yaman up top, Liam Dilapp.
00:07:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Main thing I noticed from that 11 Richard are going into it me and James sort of touched a bit last week was that inclusion of Chaplin I thought he deserved that starting ah spot regate performance I thought not and forest had a chance to score decent little cameo against Palestine and despite these results not going very well He seems to be playing well, oh and he got his first Premier League goal to back it up as well, didn't they?
00:07:55
Richard
yeah Yeah, he also played quite well at Brentford, I think. I think he started that game, which may may have been his first start after the first couple of games.
00:07:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep, yep
00:08:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Liverpool.
00:08:04
Richard
yeah live did he did he so ah can't No, he didn't start at City, did he?
00:08:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:07
Richard
So it would have been Liverpool, yeah. and
00:08:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:10
Richard
So yeah, he's done he's done really well actually, so whenever he's come into the team and like we've spoken about a few times where players like him and Broadhead come into the team, you can immediately see that they understand the patterns of play and you know what they're trying to do and where they should be on the pitch basically.
00:08:24
Richard
So he's always going to be useful in that sense and I'm really pleased for him. He he took the goal really, really well.
00:08:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:08:30
Richard
and Big Burgess, big Cam, getting a nice little assist there, taking his time and just feeding Chaplin. Classic Chaplin position, holding it holding his so you know spot just behind the play on the on the penalty spot he scored.
00:08:45
Richard
um I don't know how many, but maybe, yeah, half of his goals for town have come from that spot, basically.
00:08:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
countless goals. Yeah.
00:08:50
Richard
So um yeah, it was really good. And I was really pleased for him and the reaction from him and the players around him showed somebody who is extremely popular, as we know at the club, a trustee with the foundation.
00:09:01
Richard
And um yeah, he's he's he's very well-loved in and around Ipswich.
00:09:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
One thing, you you slightly touched on it there, but it was it was one thing I was thinking whilst watching the game, because, you know, that first 45 especially, you know, went into the break leading, I really thought it was one of the best performances we've seen for a long time.
00:09:17
Richard
Yep.
00:09:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
One of the reasons for that, in my opinion, was, you know, like I could said, it's slightly different 11, but you had players like Burgess, Taylor, Chaplin coming to the side, guys who have been there for a long time, and as you said, know the system.
00:09:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've brought in a lot of players this past summer and, you know, some have proven very well and have settled into the squad very quickly, the likes of Dilap and Schmodix. But do you think there's an argument for bringing these guys who may not have the may not have the price tag or the or the potential, shall we say, but know the system and know how to play for McKenna and approving it? Because I think Burgess, again,
00:09:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
looking a lot better. I agree to have difficult time of injuries, but he's looking fantastic, putting a really good performance until the last stages of the game. I don't know. It just seems like a potential way we can move forward of having these guys who are familiar with the system, but may not be as talented, shall we say? I don't know.
00:10:04
Richard
Yeah, it's a funny one, isn't it? I mean, I think the Burgess thing is really interesting, because I, and I'm not saying this is Captain Hindsight, but I don't think he should have been taken out of the team on Tuesday.
00:10:14
Richard
I think he'd been playing well enough for the last couple of weeks, or three weeks, or whatever it was, you know, taking over Grooves' position, I think he'd actually been really, really good.
00:10:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:10:23
Richard
and And he, as we've discussed again before, helped to unlock Davis a little bit and those combinations between the two of those was working as well. So that was a mistake. McKenna doesn't make many of them, but I think that was a mistake to bring Greaves back in.
00:10:36
Richard
um Obviously, his mistake led to to Mateta's goal anyway, which, you know, you're not having to go it in because of that. But I don't think there was a need to take him out of the team. I don't know why he
Performance Highlights and Player Evaluations
00:10:47
Richard
wasn't in the squad today.
00:10:47
Richard
Is that an injury or, you know, recurrence of that or was it just to kind of like
00:10:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not sure.
00:10:52
Richard
he can't play, you know, he you can't maybe play two in a week at this point as he's coming back. But anyway, that that for me was a bit of a and mistake and Burgess, I think at the moment, it should be the first choice set left side and centre half alongside O'Shea. I think he's deserved that. and i think he I think he's arguably been one of the top three players this season, Burgess, really.
00:11:14
Richard
And I know that's not necessarily saying a lot, but like he has. He's just done his job really, really well and was unlucky. Why was the goal disallowed anyway? His goal was at handball.
00:11:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was going to get onto this. So it was from a corner, but you're referring to Burgess's corner.
00:11:27
Richard
Yeah.
00:11:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. So the ref kind of, there was, it was a lot of argy bargy and going on in the, in the six yard box. There was pretty much the entire 22 players were in the six yard box, if except the exception emerged for that corner.
00:11:37
Richard
Yeah.
00:11:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so there was a lot going on and. bit shoving here and there, but you know, no one, no one felt more than the other. Like I'm not sure the ball of play who was up against Burgess in that scenario, but equally as physical Burgess as Burgess was, but he managed to get above him and head it in the goal.
00:11:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I was very surprised. but It hasn't been talked about as much post-match because, you know, two and a lap is a lot better than one lap, isn't it? And really could have set us forward. But yeah, it was a weird one. I don't know. I don't really know why that wasn't given to be honest.
00:12:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
I didn't seem that bad. VAR was quick to say it's a foul, but yeah, strange one, strange one.
00:12:09
Richard
Yeah, it was. I mean McKenna mckenna did mention that in his press conference after the game that he thought that that was a soft decision.
00:12:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:12:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, very much so.
00:12:17
Richard
So, yeah, not great. But yeah, but Burgess, absolutely. Just to go back to him briefly, I think he's been he's been terrific and and i and I hope he keeps his place. We'll talk about at the end of the game later, but his reaction to Leif Davis late late in the game with the defending and stuff.
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:12:34
Richard
think just showed someone who's really confident in what he's doing. And again, we've discussed this before since he's become a full international on a very regular basis, I think he's just performed at a very consistent, very decent level. and So yeah, I like him in the team.
00:12:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
One of the things with Burgess actually touching on, he wasn't in a starting 11 this past week. he ah the I think it was Tony Popovich, who's the Australian manager. He was actually at Portland Road on Tuesday, I guess, to see Burgess play, so I can't imagine he would have flown all the way from Sydney, so whatever, but must have been a bit peeved to not see him play there. Maybe Burgess had a bit of a chip of his shoulder heading into Sunday's game to say, hey, my national coach was there to watch me and he didn't play me, so I'm going to proven the boss. And he did really well. I think, you know, we've we've we've said, like, Greaves and O'Shea, I mean, we're saying it, but I'm i'm starting to believe that SNES now are our best pairing. But Burgess is hard to deny. He's really made a great step up and got a great relationship with with some of the players and, you know, nearly could have had a goal and an assist today. So was one of the standout players again, which is really good to see. One of the surprise inclusions in the starting 11 was Jack Taylor.
00:13:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think, you know, we've kind of expected, could you say, or returning Phillips, both of them are on the bench for Taylor as well, who again, like, like Burgess and guys who've been there for a ah while now, putting another, putting a great performance and was really going forward a lot doing what we'd expect to Morsy's partner to do is kind of go forward and create chances. And he, he looked really good again. Like, do you see Jack Taylor potentially getting that spot next to Morsy or is just a positional, like fixed, fixed congestion. Let's give someone else a go against, shall we say a slightly lesser opposition? I don't know.
00:14:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're smirking a bit, so I'm going to say no.
00:14:09
Richard
I think, yeah. Well, no, I don't know. i mean The thing is with Taylor, he was kind of like my dark horse at the start of the season. I think he was a few people's dark horse that he would he would step up somehow. you know be a Premier League player um or be an effective Premier League player.
00:14:24
Richard
And I think there is one in there, I think. I'm not sure if this is that we've talked about this before. Taylor doesn't fit. He's the one player in the squad that doesn't quite fit a position within the team because he's not quite a 10 and he's not quite a deep-lying six.
00:14:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:40
Richard
He's kind of something in the middle. And I think he works probably with with another two midfielders in there probably best. and And I think that's why he's probably not played as much and not just this year and in the championship season as well. So I thought he played really, really well. And he is obviously needed at the moment. Again, it feels a bit weird, doesn't it? The squad feels a bit weird. It's like, you know, we're going back to like Chaplin and Taylor comes into the team and Burgess is back in the team. You know, next we'll have Walton back in goal and Wolfenden at center half again. It's like, it's
00:15:11
Richard
It's interesting because these players do know the system and they're fresh. Ultimately, they can they can give an absolute um you know shift and and and really run around for the team, which is what Taylor did. And I agree with you. The first half performance was really, really good.
00:15:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
It very much so was, but we're going to take a break now and come back and dissect the second half, which started well, but wasn't necessarily ended in the best fashion.
00:16:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we're back in the final part of today's show, looking back at town's 2-1 loss against Bournemouth yesterday. One of the things I was quite impressed with, I know this is the Ipswich podcast here, rich but I just want to give a shout out to Bournemouth's centre-back pairing of, I think pronounce names, Zabarni and Hoisin. Oh, that's somebody getting those names wrong. But, you know, Liam Dunat, one of our biggest threats, you know, he's obviously going to be being being an absolute nightmare for center backs. But I was very impressed with their covering of him. you know Obviously, we can look at the way in which Dilat was suppressed. A difficult day for him, I think, wasn't it?
00:16:38
Richard
Yeah, I mean, I think you're absolutely right to point them out. I don't think we should sell Bournemouth short at all. They are a really, really good team. I saw them against Spurs as well in in the week, and I know Spurs are up to, well, trash at the moment. But and I lost again, didn't they? 4-3 after being 2-0 up today.
00:16:55
Richard
but They were brilliant, Bournemouth, in the week. They've got so many good players, and defensively, Ariola seems to have just really, you know, I know occasionally they'll ship a few goals, but that guy, that is he a Spanish centre-half Huyson, I think he is?
00:17:11
Richard
He's scored against Spurs in the week. and he said he's He's a really kind of like interesting player.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
um yeah Dutch.
00:17:16
Richard
Dutch, okay, sorry.
00:17:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Dutch.
Defensive Issues and Goalkeeper Debate
00:17:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:17:18
Richard
He's a really interesting kind of like quite a free-flowing center half, kind of like just running around and sort of just doing his thing. And and yeah, they're really impressive. I think really, really i impressive.
00:17:30
Richard
They've got some great players, Semenya, who's obviously very, very good and, you know, it a challenge on the right hand side to try and deal with.
00:17:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fantastic. Hmm. Well, he very much so in but both, both, both cars was their best player throughout the game. Really, really made Johnson put a shift in. And there was a moment when they played a pass through when he took three players at the game and they almost took the lead with a really, really good pass across the face from Kirk as well.
00:17:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
So a really good outing for them. I think they're kind of in the late, late show this season because obviously they have that crazy 3-2 comeback at Goodison as well. So they they show you that for them, I don't think they would have fought on the 88th minute that they're down and out, and they didn't prove to be. We'll get into it now, Richard. We've we've we've we tried to tip so around the game and not touch on these two moments, but it's got to be done, as I said, which did lose 2-1 to Bournemouth, despite the fact to try not to address it. But the first moment was Enazu now off the bench to equalise in the 87th minute.
00:18:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bit of a contrast with VAR, some think it might have been offside, but the main takeaway from me, and Rich, you can say what yours is as well, but for me, it was Marich going into no man's land and really making something a bit easier for Bournemouth, shall we say, and then Burgess kind of being disarray and a goal going in, but thoughts on the equalising goal from the away side.
00:18:40
Richard
Well, it was awful from Maric. I don't think Burgess got anything to do with it. i mean maybe he makes a bit of a hat Maybe he makes a bit of a hash of it, but it's going to go in anyway by that point.
00:18:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:51
Richard
know But I don't understand what Maric is doing.
00:18:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:18:55
Richard
I think this is the problem with him, and I think everyone's been quite on the fence about it, and it's not about just digging into players and stuff. but I mean, he's not been any sort of upgrade on what we've had for the last three years in different divisions.
00:19:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:10
Richard
um And he really hasn't. And he's now had nearly half a season to to be that person. Maybe there'll be a great goalkeeper in there in a few years time. But I think at the moment, he can make a decent save.
00:19:21
Richard
Sure, but he should be able to because he's six foot six. And he covers a lot of the goal. And that's his job. But in terms of his decision making, I just think he's he's got a mistake in him every single game. And like, you know, we praise him when he doesn't make a mistake in in a game. And it's like, well, it's a bit of a no bar. If that's kind of, is that if that's kind of how we're praising the goalkeeper, I don't necessarily think it's his fault. I just think maybe he's slightly out of his depth. And ah there might be a reason why he wasn't Bernie's number one and got really good with Burnley. And there might be a reason why Man City were happy to let him go. So
00:19:56
Richard
I think it was a terrible decision from him. It made the chance a certain goal, whereas before it was probably 50-50, whether it would have been a goal or not, you know, with a cross or a shot or whatever. So yeah, terrible from him.
00:20:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's so strange like where he came out as well, wasn't it? It was like almost to the edge of the box.
00:20:11
Richard
yeah
00:20:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like it's, it's such a weird, and's ah especially the fact I can't remember who the two players were surrounding who now or near who now at the time, but relatively had it covered or a chance to maybe stick a leg out and deflect it. It was just a really strange sort of decision from him.
00:20:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you, do you think, I mean, you know, I know we're looking back at the game here, but going slightly off, off base, is Wilson going to get a chance? I mean, or are we, we're right.
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
we We're right to have, yeah.
00:20:34
Richard
I'd put Walton in.
00:20:36
Richard
I mean, yeah, I would put Walton in.
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:39
Richard
What what would you do?
00:20:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
no I would as well. I mean just looking back me me and my ah me or my old man had a bit of a back and forth during the game and he was saying how in terms of their distribution from the back one isn't far greater than the other and as you said in terms of an upgrade is not really much there and in terms of a risk is not really much there either.
00:20:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know we've we've talked a lot on today's show about players who know the club well have put in some good performances not just from a surprising factor but playing genuinely well.
00:20:55
Richard
No.
00:21:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
He could be another one and I don't think it's really any There's no there's no risk, to be honest. We we haven't had a clean shoot all season. So, you know, if if Walton concedes a goal, he's not done nothing worse than me, which I think we're just asking for better decision making.
00:21:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, that was the 80th minute. It's not like it was mistakes galore throughout the whole 90. But it says pivotal moments in these points of the game where he's predominantly made them. And it's cost us a lot of points. And it's just another one, wasn't it?
00:21:27
Richard
Yeah, yeah i don't I don't think Walton does that. I don't think he runs to the edge of his box and then basically stops and doesn't you know and doesn't doesn't make a decision either way.
00:21:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. yeah
00:21:37
Richard
He doesn't go in to clutter the player or try and save it at his feet and doesn't hold his is ground to make it a more difficult chance. so eight He doesn't look to me like a brilliant communicator and whether that's ah whether that's a kind of like being you know fairly young and not not necessarily an established keeper or whatever. He doesn't look like he's barking at his defenders. He doesn't look like he's kind of like commanding that space. Now Hladky wasn't necessarily that guy either, but he was a much more experienced goalkeeper who had been playing for a long time in in the various divisions and stuff. and walt Walton is a bit more of that traditional kind of like communicator barking around and things.
00:22:15
Richard
But it feels to me at the moment like we we we don't...
00:22:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:17
Richard
Burgess is the one that's kind of been doing that recently. um And O'Shea seems to be fairly fairly competent at you know communicating and all that kind of stuff too. But the marriage thing is like, I guess if Ipswich want to stay in the league...
00:22:30
Richard
It feels to me like you would probably go to Walton because that seems a safer pair of hands to excuse the pun.
00:22:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Heh heh.
00:22:39
Richard
But if you're like, okay, we don't think there's much between them and we're investing for the future as well. And we think that this guy is going to be our number one, even if we're in the championship or Premier League, then I guess you you, you stick with him, but it feels to me like Walton would be safer.
00:22:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I agree, and the thing is like with Murray, so we're saying obviously, yeah, if you look at age-wise, no, Walton's got a few years on him, Clackley's almost a decade but older than the guys, so you could make the argument of experience there, but you know, he's 26, he's not like a proper young lad coming in.
00:23:08
Richard
Is he 26?
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's 26, but he's not like one of the what he's one of the kids, like, you know, he's almost one of the most senior members of the squad, so I don't necessarily think that's
00:23:10
Richard
Yeah. Right. No.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
an issue. And also, you know, if you look at in terms of how a season went last year, it's almost in terms of where where Bernie, we're on a table, it's looked almost like a mirror season, but he's wearing a different kit in terms of his performances. So, you know, it's not really, you think you would have learned from that maybe and like tried to improve. Cause you know, Dara Shay was a teammate of his last year and I know we signed him off a bit to start the season, and but he's putting some good performances and stuff. And I don't think necessarily he's a lot at fault in comparison to me, which is the weeks have gone on. So it's just a strange,
00:23:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's one of those, it's it's been there from the start of the season with Mureich as to do we have faith in him. And the first game of was kind of thrown into doubt already with how brilliant Walter was in that brief cameo he had in the opening game against um Liverpool.
00:23:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we were kind of like, well, if we've already got this, why have we just got this guy come in the door when somebody who knows the club really well, we're putting a great performance against who are the team that are currently top of the league. So, you know, it's weird, isn't it?
00:24:07
Richard
Yeah and I think, yeah, I also think that speaks to a bit of a wider thing, right, because and no no one I'm not questioning Kieran McKenna's wisdom or even the club's wisdom. I'm not doing that. But what I would say is that we basically bought a lot of players in the summer and because we bought those players on you know fairly big ah fees, obviously most of them were like breaking our transfer record by several millions from from the previous years and stuff.
00:24:38
Richard
I think because of that fact, we basically fast-track them all to the the front of the queue to get in the first team straight away without necessarily
00:24:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:48
Richard
working for that it was more built on kind of like the reputation of the player and the money that we'd spent on the player and probably they are better players right but what we're kind of gradually seeing is that Jack Clark's a good example of this Jack Clark to me doesn't look really ready for Premier League football he doesn't look strong enough he doesn't look he doesn't really have a lot of confidence at the moment I'm not having a dig at him but because he was worth 20 million quid and we spent that money on him we're trying to get these players into the team and Murch is one of those we spent eight million on him
00:24:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Very much so.
00:25:16
Richard
to be our number one, supposedly.
00:25:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:25:18
Richard
But did he actually merit getting into the team ahead of Walton? I'm not and i'm not entirely sure if he did. so And I think that you could argue that that's maybe happened in a few positions around the pitch. Chaplin coming back in now and doing doing really well is kind of showcasing, you know, he did really well in the number 10 position last year, right?
00:25:35
Richard
so I don't know it's again with hindsight and stuff you can kind of like maybe say some of that a bit more easily but I think that pattern is slightly emerging throughout the season and you know Phillips we got into the team as quickly as possible he probably wasn't fit and and now we're kind of seeing that he ain't fit again so he's missed five or six games.
00:25:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Hmm.
00:25:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, very much. So it's one of those things as well, you know, you take players from the teams who get relegated for the season before, genuine, generally, their best player stays in the prem, but a different side, you know, you could ward Prowse off to Southampton went down a few years ago, Madison with Leicester as well, they both stayed in the Premier League. And, you know, if we go down as pre players from all who are going to be the same, but sometimes, you know, you get players like that like Mureich for example who went down and are still in the Premier League because you know sometimes you feel oh yeah of course they should be in the Premier League but with him it's one of those things like you probably should go back to the championship and grind your teeth a bit and you know look look at someone like this is complete tangent here but someone like and I know he's a bit divisive vi but Jack Greenish when he was younger wasn't like so much jackpot now wasn't necessarily ready for Premier League football went down with Aston Villa grinded him got him back up and then got his move and turned into a good player I don't think
00:26:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
its it shouldn't be a right to be a Premier player because you've had one season there. Like sometimes it's good to go down again and like sort of get a bit of an edge back to yourself. And you've got players from our team who have come up and have kept the momentum and are had that morale and familiarity of place and can put in a good performance.
00:26:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's a lot to take from this and we're sort of going back and forth in it, but it's yeah, it's it's a weird one of mirage. Well, quickly, before we go, we're going to touch on the, I guess we'll touch on the ah final goal as well.
00:27:09
Richard
Oh, I thought that's why we were talking about marriage, so we didn't have to.
00:27:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't talk about it. But you know, this one would just seem like defensive disarray all over wasn't it?
00:27:13
Richard
Yeah.
00:27:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know a lot of players taken out but Davis of all people taken out and you touched it there but just screaming at him because he didn't follow the man and across
00:27:22
Richard
He was livid.
Late-Game Fatigue and Tactical Preparations
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
the end.
00:27:23
Richard
yeah he was livid
00:27:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and just ah ah a from I come with it. It was a play off the bench for Bournemouth. Who was it apologies?
00:27:32
Richard
Yeah, he was livid.
00:27:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Dango, what's the water? I might be getting a name wrong.
00:27:35
Richard
but to a
00:27:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's all right. Yeah, so just ah I saw it coming, to be honest. I didn't even watch the... ah ah I'll tell you guys now, I didn't even watch the the final goal. When when ah when the equalizer went in, I was like, I'm done.
00:27:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know what's coming, and it did. Just a really heartbreaking way to end the game, wasn't it, Richard? And, you know, my main question is, what have we got to do to see these games out?
00:27:53
Richard
yeah Yeah, I mean, like it goes back to the bench thing.
00:27:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know it's easy for us to say it, but it seems to be happening. You kind of expect it, as I did. like
00:28:05
Richard
um I think Bournemouth were able to call on some players that did you know that could put in a shift to higher up the pitch.
00:28:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:28:14
Richard
Whatera has been a good player for them for a little.
00:28:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
through sub Two Two sub score for them.
00:28:19
Richard
Yeah, he's been a good player.
00:28:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah.
00:28:20
Richard
Yeah, exactly, exactly. And and they both i saw again, I saw them against Spurs and they both he he missed about three chances against Spurs. It's real shame he actually found a shooting boots against us. But um I think it's again, it's it's poor from us for the most part. And I guess you can probably put it down to the players are getting tired later in the game. um We all love Sam Morsey but I don't think he has power late in the game that he does at the start and so he's he's quite quite easy to bypass I think in midfield or late you know in the latter part of the game. You could question why Calvin Phillips didn't come on to try and shore things up a little bit. um
00:29:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:03
Richard
in the 70th minute or something like that, surely that would have been, you know, a potentially smart thing to do there maybe. I'm not sure, you know, obviously Dilak was knackered as well, so was Hutchinson. um And again, you could argue that perhaps they they could have been taken out slightly earlier than they actually were, and that could have helped us just maintain possession of the ball a little bit. But I think ultimately it seems to be, we do get a little bit knackered later in games, we don't quite have the quality off the bench, you know, that we can we can kind of like call upon.
00:29:33
Richard
And unfortunately, it's really bad from Davis. He doesn't follow the guy. It's a really easy cross again for Bournemouth to put in there. And the guy sticks it away. But yeah, Burgess was absolutely screaming at him. So um yeah, i'm not not good. Not good.
00:29:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not good. But we move on. We won't touch on Wolves as much next week because we'll do that in a podcast later in the week. What do I set out and expect the crossover guys for that as well?
00:29:57
Richard
is that is that Is that the next one, is it?
00:29:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is. I was going to ask you, so obviously we have to get too in depth and to, you know, Gary Neil side and certain players that impress you, but this is a big game. Like what, like must win. I mean, it all becomes must win now, but you know, a way up on a new relegation rival.
00:30:10
Richard
I mean, yeah.
00:30:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
We don't know how they're going to be playing, uh, later tonight against West Ham. So we don't know how that's going to go, but must win regardless, isn't it?
00:30:16
Richard
yeah Yeah, but I think we've probably been in that territory for a little while now. and Certainly these last three games or certainly the last two games, the last two home games.
00:30:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:31
Richard
Yeah, I mean, yeah of course it is a must win. I think it's going to be really difficult for McKenna to pick them up from this really. and ah you know Again, they're professionals, I'm sure they'll be able to do that, but at the same time, it has happened a few times and surely that has to get in your head. you know It's like anyone defending a corner against Arsenal at the moment.
00:30:50
Richard
It seems to be like that's going to be a goal, whatever they do.
00:30:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:53
Richard
It's just these narratives kind of like get in and, you know, the players hear it and all the rest of it. And we are conceding late goals. And I think unfortunately for us, that second goal that got ruled out rightly or wrongly or whatever, that does change the tone of the game because we haven't gone 2-0 up at home.
00:31:09
Richard
and And obviously that's the reason why why we're not winning games, because we we we can't hold on to a 1-0 lead.
00:31:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:31:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:31:15
Richard
we haven Kept a clean sheet all year. Oh no, we kept one, sorry.
00:31:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
no Yeah, it was at what's-its-face Brighton, which...
00:31:21
Richard
We kept one.
00:31:25
Richard
Yes.
00:31:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I like Miroch's best performance in a town shirt, but that goes against what we're talking about today.
00:31:28
Richard
For sure.
00:31:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's going to do it for today's episode. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back tomorrow for Tactics Tutor, where we'll be looking into this game in finer detail, as well as previewing the week ahead against Wolves. Thank you so much for listening, guys.