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Episode 61 - Tactics Tuesday - Man Utd 1 - Ipswich 1
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Richard and Rob dissect our draw with Man Utd in a little more detail, discuss Ed Sheeran's latest shenanigans and ask where on earth is Nathan Broadhead?
The Daily Ipswich Podcast, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network, is your new home of all your ITFC. Join us every weekday for the latest news, build-up and reaction in the club's first season back in the Premier League.
Host: Richard Popple
Guest: Rob Binns
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Ipswich vs Man United: Initial Reactions and Analysis
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Daily Ipswich. My name is Richard Popple, and today I am being joined by Rob Bins. Hello, Rob.
00:00:17
Rob Binns
Hello mate, how are you doing?
00:00:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, not too bad. So we're ah we're sort of 24 hours ah past um the result against Man United, the draw, listening to you and so ah Tom going through it yesterday but in great detail. It was fantastic. how How are you feeling? Sort of like 24 hours on?
00:00:35
Rob Binns
Yeah, I've had a lot more time to sort of rewatch bits and see what I sort of think a bit more about it with the opinions and stuff, because that was very raw.
00:00:47
Rob Binns
The opportunity we don't get very often, really, with when you play Saturday at three every week and various schedules, especially in my case, we work on Saturdays at three most of the time
Post-Game Reactions: Team Performance and Missed Opportunities
00:00:55
Rob Binns
as well. It's nice to be able to jump on straight after a game and give that instant reaction.
00:01:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah it is and as you say we don't normally do it like that soon after the game so it's quite fun to do that. um But yeah just to give my two thoughts really on it I mean I thought obviously it's a pretty good result and the fact that everyone's fairly disappointed about drawing at home with Man United suggests that we did all right really.
00:01:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
a couple of huge chances for Dalat, you know, we can't sort of give him too much. I heard you talking about it, Robin, like the first one, particularly the one in the first half, when we we were still one nil down, I think at that point.
00:01:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
and I mean, you've got to score that, like you really have to score that. You can see someone like Harry Kane or Erling Harland, they literally would just toe poke that in the corner and, you know, easy goal.
00:01:36
Rob Binns
Ooh.
00:01:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
But so I think
00:01:38
Rob Binns
Maybe mean not Holland at the moment, to be fair.
00:01:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Well, you're absolutely right, maybe not Harland at the moment. But um yeah, that's maybe that is maybe something for for to watch with Dalat, because the goals that he does score tend to be quite spectacular, really. um And maybe he's actually not had that many easy chances this year, to be perfectly honest, and maybe he's a little bit
Media Focus: Amorim vs McKenna
00:01:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
out of practice. but um nonetheless he played brilliantly again didn't he and he looks a handful every time he plays and yeah we got we got the draw we sort of it was a bit of a weird one because it was all about Reuben Amorin but there was the whole narrative with McKenna that you know I think was talked about in town circles quite a lot but that the national media were all about Amorin which was a bit strange I thought
00:02:18
Rob Binns
Yeah, so that's the sort of point everyone's now picking up today. Like I said, they've had their extra 24 hours. Everyone's now going like, but hang on, let's let's go and give Ipswich a bit of credit because they but no one no one spoke about them all week.
00:02:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:30
Rob Binns
It was all hammering this, hammering that. lot Even on oh we our crossover, that while the crossover I went and done the other week, was that was 90%. We had to talk about hammering because that was a talking point that our angle of it particular went under the radar completely before you even then threw in yeah yeah added bit of McKenna with being obviously being united before coming to Ipswich and everything that so and it's only sort of taken until like I said the extra 24 hours after the game where people just start going actually let's let's stop a second and let's pray let's give Ipswich a praise because two years ago they were mid table lead one and now they're disappointed to be drawing at home with Man United and it's nice we're finally getting the praise we deserve and McKenna especially.
00:03:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
Ed Sheeran at the Press Conference: Branding and Reactions
00:03:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
exactly. I mean, maybe that's why we sent Ed Sheeran out to um to go into his press conference with Sky Sports at the end of the game, which seems to have upset quite a few people. what What's your take on that? are we Are we pushing the kind of branding of Ed Sheeran a little bit too far with stuff like that?
00:03:27
Rob Binns
uh i i think he's obviously it's unbelievable for us to have it's such a unique thing to have a global sort of face like edge here and that you can just use to help your brands whenever you want but that's probably a bit more of an ill-judged one there that i think it'd seem like you had a bit to drink as well but i would i wouldn't blame him he came across quite badly in that like it seemed quite rude especially with amaran's first interview on tv and obviously he's
00:03:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:03:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Yeah.
00:03:55
Rob Binns
not in his first language. he's He's gone up there to a panel after a poor result and willing to do a fairly long interview. Certainly longer than the average post-match interview, but he didn't come across well.
00:04:07
Rob Binns
But at the same time, someone, you you can't just walk, maybe you can if you're Ed Sheeran, I suppose, but you can't just walk onto a live production set, can you? They're on the side of the pitch. Someone on their crew would have stopped him if they didn't want him going on there.
00:04:19
Rob Binns
They've obviously wanted the clip of Ed Sheeran gatecrashes Amorim's interview.
00:04:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, that's, yeah.
00:04:24
Rob Binns
they've They've let him do it. He's not come across brilliantly, but there's plenty of people that would have stopped him.
00:04:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. No. I think that's the thing, isn't it? The comms team have been like, you know, very happy to to sort of get him out there, obviously, as much as they possibly can whenever he's around. But it's a bit like the Conor McGregor thing at the Emirates, where he was just kind of like walking around the pitch at the end of a game and like kicking Bakaio Saka or something. And then everyone asked him, was like, well, hang on, how's this guy got the pitch first of all? And why is he kicking one of our players, like even playfully after the game?
00:04:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, Sheeran obviously wasn't quite going that far. but it's quite Yeah, it is quite funny but like because he tweeted about it today and sort of said, you know, i was a bit I was acting like a bit of an idiot and obviously I apologize and stuff like that. So I reckon we might see slightly less of these appearances even, you know, for a little while potentially.
00:05:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
and yeah Anyway, we digress. So this is Tactics
Amorim's 3-4-3 Formation: Ipswich's Adaptation
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Tuesday. We're going to talk through the game in a little bit more detail and see how the the result panned out. Rob, I know you were talking about Ruben Amorim before he he came over and obviously the formation that he was playing with Sporting pretty exclusively, which is 343, through at the back.
00:05:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we were sort of, um you know, wondering whether he would sort of be going for that with United, particularly with some of the players they got out. Martinez missing, Luke Shaw not being properly fit ever. and But he actually played half, you know, half this game. and But they did seem to line up like that. So, so how did, how did you see that in terms of the personnel they had? And also how did you think that McKenna counter that and plan for it?
00:05:57
Rob Binns
Well, I sort of, I had that sort of epiphany during halfway through the international break where I completely changed my mind of, no, it's not going to be a new manager balance. We're going to, it's actually going to work in our favor. And I say that my reason I thought that is because I thought there's two options he can go with. He can force his system in and try and they've got to learn it over time. And he actually said it himself half the game. They're going to have to go through a period of pain while they get used to that before they get the potential rewards.
00:06:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:06:23
Rob Binns
Um, or there was the option to play a four system. He's not familiar with and work around them. He picked the former and I mean, you just have to look at the lineup. We were straight in our chat, weren't we? I said the same thing yesterday that we saw that team. We went, well, that's beatable actually. That's really beatable. And how you look at it and say the back, was it the back three had a, had a full back in it and a 39 year old or her old Johnny Evans is as two of the three had a full back on his wrong side as one of the wing backs and a winger in the other role on the wing backs.
00:06:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:06:53
Rob Binns
two midfielders in there who are both aging and don't have much, don't have many legs playing as a two, which and so seems quite an important role in this sort of system.
00:07:04
Rob Binns
And then you've got one winger and one number 10 as you two behind the striker. You haven't decided whether to go double winger or double number 10. And then you've got a winger up front. It was, it was very makeshift and that was going to cause problems.
00:07:16
Rob Binns
And we had to sort of take advantage of that really. Cause like I say, we're, the way I changed my I was changed the view but I felt we weren't going to get a better time to play them because I think if you look at that United 11 in two months time a lot of those names aren't going to be there or they or at least be playing in their correct positions and they'll probably have it together by then and be playing maybe because there was some signs of the football there but we had a chance to go and make the most of it we did we we controlled the game first half especially for we united had more possession but most of that was going to sort of
00:07:49
Rob Binns
going between the back three where they couldn't really break us down because they didn't they couldn't get the system flowing to start. But we took advantage of it, definitely.
00:07:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well that's true but we obviously did go behind in the game so you know it must have worked to to some degree. I mean obviously I hear what you're saying about players being out of position and you know Man United's squad is very what's been very poorly put together, let's be honest, that's why they're in the position that they're in. And we're not a Man United podcast, but that that's that's why for years, they've kind of flattered to deceive and have been able to play well you know at times, particularly in the cups, because they've got quality individual players, but as a team, it's just all over the place. and So I don't think Amarin is going to be able to change that.
00:08:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
for a good while, yeah, and you would think it's going to be January and then, you know, next summer before they actually start to get their squad together. But it did work initially. So was that just kind of like us not starting the game very sharply? I mean, we've been
Midfield Dominance: Ipswich vs Man United
00:08:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
we have conceded goals just before halftime and things like that. We have conceded early goals kind of all season, really. We've been slow starters at some point of, you know, a restart, whether that's the start of the game, second half, et etc. So was that us sort of letting them off the hook or was it because they were you know, that their tactics worked, I suppose.
00:09:02
Rob Binns
Um, a little bit of both, I think, because as much as I said, we have to be taken advantage. We also didn't really know what to expect because obviously have you yeah you have the analysts and stuff, but it's a bit different when you watch how it works with sporting Lisbon and their players compared to Man United and their players. But we did start slowly. but Like we were, I think me and Tom were saying yesterday that it was that Smodik shot that he sort of drilled and forced a good save from an Ana. That was, that was our wake up point when like,
00:09:29
Rob Binns
We sort of made that out of nothing after a slow start. And then we were like, we're all right. We're nearly equalized straight away. We kick on, and we we're the better team for the rest of the half. But it's just blaming a lot of places, really, for the goal.
00:09:41
Rob Binns
Fantastic run from Ahmad. You've got to give him craze. As a young lad, he plays one of the few players that United do.
00:09:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah I thought he played really well.
00:09:47
Rob Binns
He plays without fear. That's the key. That's why he's doing well at United.
00:09:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:50
Rob Binns
Everyone likes him, because a lot of players there are crumbling under the pressure of being at Manchester United and underperforming. And then it's getting worse. He's someone who plays without fear. and really good for him but say there's probably a couple of poor challenges that should have been done better in the build up.
00:10:05
Rob Binns
I don't like Muric's positioning. I don't know over that if I'm expecting too much of my goalkeeper. but food like He's coming for the cross and he's just sort of come bent down and waited for it.
00:10:16
Rob Binns
If you if if my goalkeeper's coming for a cross, I want him knocking everybody out of the way and coming together.
00:10:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:10:20
Rob Binns
He shouldn't be shouldn't be coming there like, oh, just in case yeah ill comment it was it la joea who was in front of me maybe like Just in case he misses, the obby there I'll give him a shout and let him get out of the way and I'll have it. He's been knocking him out of the way and go getting the ball there for me as a goalkeeper.
00:10:33
Rob Binns
but its Just a few just sloppiness because it was early doors in the game obviously.
00:10:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:10:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think his his confidence levels are still fairly fragile, I would say. he he kind of He plays in a fairly lethargic way anyway, that's kind of his language sort of style, you know, even when he's sort of knocking it around from the back. And you think sometimes it looks quite controlled. It reminds me a little bit of Anana actually, in the way that, I mean, he's not at his level. But I think when Anana first came to United, he was He was trying to play the way he'd been doing it at Inter, which is obviously a bit a lot slower, Italian football, and you know he was he was getting caught a few times, basically, but he's he's adapted and he's become probably met one of their best players, to be honest. and But yeah, it was ah it was a poor start from us, but you're right, we did seem to kind of like you grow into the game quite quickly. We'll come back after a quick break from one of our sponsors and we'll go on to talk about the rest of the first half.
00:11:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
We are back in part two of the daily Ipswich.
Ipswich's Strategic Adaptability Under McKenna
00:11:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rob, yeah we fall behind nice and early, as as I say, we have done a few times this season, but we hit back, not immediately with the goal straight away, but certainly in terms of like dominating possession. we seem to really you know we You mentioned Ericsson and Casamiro.
00:12:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
the old men who are kind of like running towards the end of their careers here, um certainly in the Premier League, I would think. um we We did manage to get hold of the midfield battle. um And even though Morsy, who I absolutely loved, tends to take, you know, three or four touches before moving the ball on any time. and He had somebody next to him who really is hitting some form. Can you stay? Who I thought was superb. He was against Spurs. I heard you guys talking about him.
00:12:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
as well yesterday. He just gives us a different dimension in midfield. He's happy to pick up the ball. He's happy to turn and drive, which the others don't do. And and I thought that was huge for us, just like getting through the middle of the pitch. Morsy was good as well. He was ticking the ball over. and And obviously Hutchinson came into the game as well. So where do you think we were sort of like hurting Man United at that point? Because we were on top for a good 20, 25 minutes.
00:13:06
Rob Binns
Yeah, I think the midfield battle was the key, but I mean, you can see it on paper though, can't you? Before you actually get into how the game played out, if you look at the four central midfielders between the two teams, there's one standout there of youthful, more, a bit more in possession, wants to drive forward. And that was the sort of role you say was going to have to play if we were going to get something from that game. And that's the role he did play. And he was arguably the best player on the pitch until he was subbed off.
00:13:35
Rob Binns
the way he was dictating the game, which did both roles as well that he's played that role. We was like me and Thomas on yesterday. He's filled that role that we sat here three or four weeks ago and said, we we're crying out for, we can't have more Z and Phillips are too similar. We need someone to play this role who can bring us forward on in possession, do that. And that's exactly, that's exactly what he's become these last couple of games. And that was the key because like I said, they are, they are getting on towards the end of their careers. They're not runners anymore Casamiro and Ericsson then and he is so that's the difference for me that you've got two players there who like to sit back and sort of make the ball do the work for them but then you've got Caduce coming in the other side who likes to run with the ball and open spaces up and then obviously obviously seeing in Hutchinson in the centre was incredibly lively and it's sort of like it's such difference in the 4-2-3-1 setup compared to a 3-4-3 it's sort of difficult to know who's meant to be marking who
00:14:34
Rob Binns
you've got three center backs and one striker and then but then you like she's then you then sort of questioning like so are Evans and Maserari's the wide two are they taking Burns and Smodik so without the wing backs we should be taking them to a sort of it's naturally going to create gaps of both teams and we don't we made better use of those gaps that were created I think compared that's where United it sort of lacked against us is that they were going to have these gaps mainly through the center are probably all whatever they opened up they didn't really do anything with them whereas we we draw a gap and we burst into burns down the right, especially done that a few times over both halves, particularly in the first half and the sort of how we broke.
00:15:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:15:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we're also slightly lopsided, aren't we, in the way that we kind of like attack and defend? Because obviously, Davis gets much further forward than the right-hand side do, you know? Because but Burns was effectively, I thought Burns was playing, particularly in that first half, he was playing a bit further back, because Hutchinson was coming to the right-hand side a lot, even though it looks as if he was starting in the centre of the pitch, you almost had kind of Smodix and Hutchinson kind of in the same place, but moving moving to the left and the right, depending on, you know,
00:15:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
obviously where the where the ball was and where the action was going on but Hutchinson was picking it up a lot on the right-hand side and almost they were trying to overlap there with with Burns because two hands AB wasn't wasn't getting forward in the same way so it's and it's interesting the way they did that it was almost as if we were playing three at the back which we were but we were also kind of playing the four at the back at times as well because you know bench Burns was then going into his right wing position a bit more often when we were attacking so it's kind of clever from McKenna it just seems like he's they're adapting that. like We were so rigid with the same system for so long, which would obviously work for so long and the players knew it, and we were clearly getting caught earlier in the season, so he's he's kind of adapting and and we're changing slightly position slightly formations when we're in and out of possession.
00:16:26
Rob Binns
Yes, letting players play to their strengths, isn't it? Obviously, we so we said about Smodix on the left, we weren't big fans of it. but weren't Why his forms picked up is because he's been allowed to drift more central, which is then a benefit for us as well. He gets in positions he likes more. That also then opens up the gap for Davis to get further forward where he wasn't doing as much.
00:16:44
Rob Binns
to as good of an effect. Definitely. Anyway, at the ah start of the season, I'd say we know how Amari likes to drift to the right because he likes to come in on that left foot, like the goal he scored. He likes to do that.
00:16:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:55
Rob Binns
And obviously we have Burns or Johnson who saw in those sort of roles that can be the hybrid and go when they need to and can sit back when they need to. It's it's just, it's keeping the same system on paper, but it's letting your players play to their best sort of areas really.
00:17:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:11
Rob Binns
to get the most out of them.
00:17:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:12
Rob Binns
and That's something we probably weren't doing as well and to start with this season. Then, like I say, that Brentford game, despite the result, has always been the turning point in terms of performances, really.
00:17:23
Rob Binns
And Schmodix and Hutchinson are the sort of players that have really stepped up.
00:17:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:27
Rob Binns
And that's because they've been given this extra freedom going forward. And no surprise that the chances and the goals have been much improved since this has been happening as well.
00:17:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. And I think it also is less than the gap between the midfield and the the forwards because you effectively, um you kind of were having four forwards on the pitch. And if we were pressing really high and winning the ball back up the pitch, then, you know, obviously that was all right. But once teams were starting to pass through as you were literally into our midfield and because we don't have the most mobile midfield, people were bypassing it far too easily. So I think it's a really smart tweak because you're right. It's playing to play as strengths you've got.
00:18:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Simonics is who whos in some decent form anyway. Hutchinson has been over the past few games as well and I think they're working quite nicely as a pair um and sort of like shift it yeah shifting the ball around nicely and then as you say we've got these kind of like slightly hybrid players in Burns and even Davis really I mean Davis is you know arguably better going forward than he is defensively anyway so you've you've you've got those two players that are kind of doing similar roles but in in ah in a different way I suppose.
00:18:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, it was nice and effective. And then obviously we got the goal with Hutchinson, like we said, we should have scored with Dalat, but we go in 1-1. When we come back in the final part of the show, we will be talking about the second half, Man United made a few changes at halftime and tweaks, certainly in their attitude, I would say. And we'll talk about how Ipswich counteracted that.
00:19:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back for the final part of the daily Ipswich. So we're going
Halftime Tactical Changes: Defensive Adjustments
00:19:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
at halftime 1-1, Ruben Amering gives his first halftime talk in the bowels of Portman Road and the new changing rooms there. And they came out and they certainly had a bit more Well, energy, for want of a better word, they seemed to be kind of like putting a bit more effort to win the ball back a bit quicker because they were letting us have it very much in the first half. um And I was a bit worried, I've got to be honest, when when when the first half started, those first five minutes manually looked quite dangerous to me. So what did you think the tweaks were there at halftime, Robin? What did we do to eventually kind of settle things down a little bit?
00:20:04
Rob Binns
Well, the tweet was the intensity. They, they came out, they came out and played like an away side. They came out the, that's what, when you're away from home, you know, you know, the home side is going to want to control the play. So you got to come out and try and put them off it up, set the crowd early doors. Obviously they'd done that in the first half. They got the goal. They came out and tried to do the same in the second half and do, and it looked effective for a while because. So I can't remember how far into the half it was, but they had that break where luckily for us, could you, I still need to learn how to say his name.
00:20:34
Rob Binns
he got back brilliantly, I hope, I think so.
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Can you stay, isn't it?
00:20:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think.
00:20:38
Rob Binns
I'll learn it, I say said yesterday, if he keeps dropping in these performances, I'm gonna master it, because I'm gonna be praising him every single week on these episodes.
00:20:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:46
Rob Binns
um I'll learn it from that way, the way he's playing. But he got back brilliantly to spare our blushes.
00:20:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
um'm gonna start miss um I'm going to start mispronouncing some of the sort of like English names, but Ernest or something like that, you know, just to, just to even us up.
00:20:55
Rob Binns
yeah
00:20:58
Rob Binns
Throwing him in. a throw in
00:21:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:01
Rob Binns
Yeah. So that was, that was the one, that was the thing that i only happened once all game. Luckily, but that's where I got worried that are we going to see a turn now? Cause they pounced on us quickly. They forced an error and they broke from it. And they were in a very promising position there. And Garnacho probably should have shot himself. Cause he was always allowing Koiste to get back by looking for that ball across the Bruno. Yes. Bruno had an easier chance if he found the pass, but he probably should have For a player who has a bit of a reputation of being greedy, that was probably a time where he was a bit too unselfish and we got away with it.
00:21:33
Rob Binns
But I worried it was going to turn like that, but we quickly sort of shut that down. And I do think substitutions from both managers had a big impact because I was saying in the last part how two very different setups in terms of trying to work out who's mark two.
00:21:50
Rob Binns
And they got even more complicated when the United's changed, when they brought Hoyland and Xerxes on at the same time. the same time
00:21:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:58
Rob Binns
and Obviously, Hoyland went up through the middle, that was easy enough. But then you had Bruno knocking back as one of the two, who was naturally never going to sit back and play that role. He's always going to advance a bit. And then God knows what Xerxes' role is. I don't think he knows what his role is. He called himself a 9.5 at the start of the year, didn't he? He floats between 9 and 10, but he sort of effectively got free roam to do what he wanted, wherever he wanted to pick the ball up, which then he didn't do too much with it, luckily for us. but that's a very, when you have someone who can just do that, Foden does it for City a lot of the time, but you just get the freedom to go and do what you want, pretty much, and try and make things happen.
00:22:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
right
00:22:37
Rob Binns
That's so hard to defend against, because you never know who whose job is that that. That's how you get people dragged out of position. It's because someone's gonna go, because you don't know who role it is to go and do that, unless you physically go and say to someone, right, he's your, I don't care where you're playing, you're on him.
00:22:53
Rob Binns
And that's hard to deal with, so they, So it didn't really work, but I think that's again, because they are adapting to a new thing, but McKenna done very well to counteract with some subs as well to get us sort of a bit more control back in the game. Cause there was a little spell or it looked like you might, you know, like might try and go and push on to get a winner. And we quickly shut them back down and sort of the late subs we name it, we sort of had to sacrifice our own goal for it.
00:23:20
Rob Binns
with some of the changes we made later on, but but it gave us more control in the game and obviously a point is better for us than it is for Man United, regardless of where how their season's been and they might be in the table that they're gonna expect to come to Portland Road and win, especially yeah we when they look at it, that they'll come and think, well, we'll have only one one game we'll see and we should be beating them, especially if new managers come in, I want results straight away that we sort of, we've done very well to just sort of,
00:23:48
Rob Binns
Obviously, we would obviously want to win the game. You never go out and play for a draw. But the awareness of McKenna is that we need to, a point is better for us than it is for them. So we need to make sure we don't let that slip to go and throw ourselves away to get a winner. And I say they can't think of anything they offered from sort of 75 minutes onwards, really.
00:24:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I agree. I mean, I think, you know, there was a stat wasn't there about halfway through that half where they they had like 77% of possession in the second half for the first. kind of half an hour of the second half, really. And they didn't produce a huge amount with it. I mean, obviously, Xerxes had that shot, which he absolutely blew in over the bar. And you mentioned the guy on that show, kind of like Breakaway, but they didn't really cut anything clear cut there. Bruno had a shot blocked too. But yeah, i think I think the subs from McKenna, they it just shows his intelligence because I think he realized at that point that there wasn't
00:24:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
we weren't really, we didn't really have the legs to be able to chase the game and to sort of like impose ourselves again. And you know, again, we're against Man United, as you mentioned, as as bad as they are these days, they still have a lot of individual quality players who can still make something out of nothing. So I think he was aware of that and pragmatic about it and realized that, you know, if we were to nick something, then, you know, maybe we could on the break, which obviously we nearly did with the chaplain chance towards the end. But generally speaking,
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Schmodecks had run his race quite clearly and obviously he'd played some international football as well during the week and seems to be a kind of 60-70 minute player anyway. Hutchinson too, he did play the whole game but was very much running out of energy towards the end and and we needed to try and win the ball up the pitch and I think someone like Jack Clark, I don't think I don't think it was great, if I'm honest. you know he He does look a little bit lightweight to me still and he's kind of easily brushed off the ball, but you just needed somebody to bring some energy into the game and then obviously Chaplin on the other side for Burns a little bit later on.
00:25:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
hurried and hassled as best that he can. Al Hamadi is sort of the same, but he's clearly carrying some kind of injury, clearly isn't, or or just isn't fit from his injury earlier in the season. And the guy hasn't played enough football, unfortunately, not just this season, but in the calendar year, I think, you know, for his career really, we need to get him getting back playing regular football somewhere in the championship potentially. But yeah, McKenna did what McKenna does. He can see the bigger picture and I think that's That's a really positive sign for me because, sure, you want the win, of course you do, but the time to get ahead in the game was probably the first half when we were really, really on top and then, you know, to be pragmatic and just say, all right, cool, we'll take what we can here and sort of like deal with the situation in front of us just shows a very intelligent manager.
00:26:32
Rob Binns
Yeah, definitely.
McKenna's Tactical Ingenuity: Securing a Draw
00:26:33
Rob Binns
I think we go all the way back to before the season started and we were sort of trying to predict how our season would go and how McKenna would adapt to Premier League football. And I can't remember if someone made a very valid point, which is we've seen in those in the game like the one on Sunday, is that we've had this very set way of playing that's got fantastic results for the last two years, but it's not going to go, it's not going to all go your way like that in the Premier League.
00:27:01
Rob Binns
where how he will set himself apart and continue to make a name for himself as a young manager coming through, is he's got to show that adaptability when things aren't going how we want them to. He's like, you say, be pragmatic, use his football brain, see, right, where could how could I change this game and get things back in our favor? And that's something he has done incredibly well throughout this season, most notably in the last sort of couple of months as the results and performances have really started to pick up. and Sunday is probably the best example of it we've had this season where he had to do it two or three times, whether that was with the existing players on the pitch and the setup or with the substitutes that come on.
00:27:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:40
Rob Binns
And he's, we we talk about the players sort of adapting over time and they really sort of hit their level now, I think. where you might There could have been a couple of question marks posed by the more pessimistic people after the for opening games but Kieran McKenna has really sort of stepped up and he's making some fantastic decisions whether that's with tactics or substitutions to help us getting these points on the board now and he's just brilliant isn't he?
00:28:06
Rob Binns
You've run out of things to say about him now.
00:28:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he's superb. Yeah, is he is. he's He's very, very impressive in just the way he holds himself and everything else, which has all been talked about before, but yeah, he's he's very, very impressive. Just want to shout out a couple of players before we go as well. I thought Burgess was superb, and I think he's been absolutely brilliant over the last few weeks. And I've said this before on the podcast, it's not rocket science, but he's got a great relationship with Davis. Davis has played a lot better consistently over the last month, I would say, and I think that is partly due to the fact that he's got Burgess there, because his passing, he played one into him. Well, that was the dilap chance, wasn't it? He played it over the top to...
00:28:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
to Davis, who cut inside brilliantly and set up the lap. But it was a superb ball from Burgess. and and And as good as Greaves it looks, and look, you're probably going to play your 20 million pound center half um first. I get that. He looks a quality player. But you know Burgess has done absolutely nothing wrong. And in fact, he's played brilliantly since he's come into the team. Against raw pace, he's always going to struggle. But you're struggling the championship against raw pace. So I think you know what you get with him. And I think since he's become an international footballer regularly,
00:29:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, his confidence, he just seems to know who he is as a footballer, good age, 28, 29, and good on him. like i'm I'm absolutely delighted that he's kind of proved that he can cut it up here and and sort of, you know, show himself decently. So I thought he was superb. And the other one I want to talk about, he didn't play. Where is Nathan Broadhead, Rob?
00:29:37
Rob Binns
yeah that's ah starting to become a bit more worrying week by week isn't it because he has been fit whether whether he's 100% max sharp or not we don't know but he's been matched fit for about six weeks now and we haven't seen him and obviously there was all the deleting everything Ipswich related from his social media a few weeks back which obviously some people took as he'll be going in January and others says that is a
00:29:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:30:06
Rob Binns
somewhat common trope for a footballer that after success to just, so as it meant they'll have a ah coach tell them and that mentally they need to, don't don't rely on that, all that success and they'll go and clear everything they've got of it and pretend they're starting to fresh.
00:30:22
Rob Binns
But I think the fact that we've, we yeah, it that is,
00:30:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh really, right, yeah.
00:30:27
Rob Binns
That's also, say that is something that happens but it also is the first excuse you go to when it is just, like fall there's been a falling out and that's what people say, oh no, he's just showing, he's got good mentality.
00:30:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:37
Rob Binns
you know he's it's just one He wants a mental reset, he's gonna come back in. But the fact that we're four or three or four games since that whole incident now that was getting talked about and he still hasn't played, there probably is something somewhere behind the scenes that isn't, that we aren't being told about because
00:30:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:57
Rob Binns
the the play The legacy he's got from the last couple of years, you'd think he'd be at least getting cameos off the bench. And he isn't.
00:31:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, you would think he was at least at Chaplin's level, right? If not above, and maybe at Jack Clark's level. So you would you would say that, yeah, he's Yeah, there is something clearly going on there. Either he's just not reached the fitness that they're looking for or yeah, something. But yeah, the whole social media thing, you can spin it positively if you want. But I don't think that necessarily sounds like a positive thing necessarily, which is a shame. But yeah, I mean, we know there's probably gonna be changes to the squad anyway in January. And I guess that does mean that probably a couple will leave as well at the same time, certainly on loan, if nothing else.
00:31:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
um All right, well look, anything else from the game that that popped out to you, Rob? Or we can leave it there, or if you've got anything else.
00:31:49
Rob Binns
ah I just want to touch on a comment actually that Hutchinson made in his post-match interview in that something I um was hoping to raise this point yesterday then we ran out of time but I'll so i'll chuck it in now is that he actually I can't remember the exact quote I was on the lines of tend to play better when we're behind which there's two ways you can look at it really depending on what your mindset is you can look at the result of right we don't we don't get down because we we have had that before we concede in quick succession after letting one in and heads seem to drop whereas now it's right lock in this absolutely does not become two we go we go and equalize we get the next goal in this game or the pessimistic way to look at it is do why do we need to go one nil down to to sort of wake up and get into games because
00:32:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:39
Rob Binns
We did start sloppy, didn't we? oh Yes, it was 80 seconds into the game. So you have plenty of time to get back. But we almost sort of benefited us to concede that early because could we because that sloppy start have turned into 20, 25 minutes and united again, a good grip on the game, dominating the play. I don't know which way to sit on it, really. I don't know what if you've got either side of the fence you want to sit on with that.
00:33:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting, isn't it? you know You think of the last two away games. I know we lost to Brentford in the end, but we went 2-0 up there. And then we the same was Spurs. We went 2-0 up and obviously went on to win the game. And I think away from home, we seem to, the expectation is we're going to lose the game. And so we're sort of we're playing with that sort of like punches, you know optimistic kind of like, yeah, we'll we'll give it a go sort of thing. and i And I feel we're sort of carrying that into the home games as well.
00:33:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whereas really in your home games, you need to assert yourself a little bit more. And i don't I think that's fundamentally why we haven't won a game this year. You know, all right, we got close a couple of times, but we've looked more comfortable being the underdog at home as well and kind of like coming from behind. And I guess they've probably been told all season, like, you know, no one's giving us a chance. They're sort of having that sort of siege mentality. You know, it's us, we're in control of our own destiny and all that kind of stuff. And I reckon that kind of seeps in a little bit and you just sort of think, well,
00:33:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, when we're behind, we're we're comfortable with that because it's like no one, no one gives us a prayer. So we'll just go for it at that point. Whereas before there's almost a bit more, you know, trepidation, I guess, maybe to take the, take the initial, initial step, but, and also a bit of fear in the Premier League because you know how good these teams are. And so.
00:34:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, you start trying to play progressive football too early in the game and and and teams pick you off easily. So sometimes it's just not in your, not in your control. But I think there's a bit of a mentality thing there, which is a good and a bad thing, I suppose, because it shows resilience that we do, we do play well, you know, when we're sort of up against it.
00:34:36
Rob Binns
Yeah, I think it's interesting point you make. you say Just pick out some selective home games. Liverpool game, we were we all expected to lose. We were brilliant first half, and it was just a difference in quality in the end.
00:34:48
Rob Binns
Villa, again, we were probably expected to lose, played incredibly well, got a draw.
00:34:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:34:52
Rob Binns
United, we were probably expected to lose. We played very well, got a draw. But then you've got Everton, we were expected to win, and we were shocking.
00:34:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, absolutely awful.
00:35:00
Rob Binns
And then you've got Leicester, we were expected to win, and we were all right. the ah soon as as soon as the Red Cup, they could have lost their game very easily.
00:35:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
It could have lost that game as well. Let's, let's add a lot of, a lot of shots in that game.
00:35:09
Rob Binns
That we have played better in these games where we play better when there's less expectation.
00:35:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:14
Rob Binns
Because again, West Ham, we took it away for away games. That was one of the real look down for a great opportunity to go and get your first win.
00:35:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:21
Rob Binns
They're rubbish at home, and we were battered. It's the games where people go, and when we're the underdog, we do really well.
00:35:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:28
Rob Binns
We're not very good. Admittedly, we're not a favorite as often as we are the underdog. We're naturally where we are on the table. but We've got some more big games coming up now, haven't we? So in the next few weeks, ah these sort of games where we probably do go in, maybe as the favorite rather than the underdog, the teams around us, so we need to some flip that mentality around really.
00:35:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, or not even favourite, just expected to pick up points. you know that That expectation alone adds pressure, doesn't it? Because it's like, you know as you say, there's there's certain games, well, in the Premier League there's probably about 12 or 14 games where you are literally not expected to get anything at all.
00:35:54
Rob Binns
Yeah.
00:36:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it is ah is a you know just a free hit at that point. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see how it develops. i think You're right. we've We've got to start turning some of those wins around unless we're just going to beat, you know, Spurs again, do the double over Arsenal, beat City, you know, all that kind of stuff. It's a big, it's a big thing to ask for. and All right. We'll leave it there. Thank you, Rob, for your valuable insight this evening.
00:36:28
Rob Binns
Thank you.
00:36:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
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