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Episode 72 - Tactics Tuesday & 3 Years Of Kieran McKenna
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On today's show, Tom & Rob take a deeper dive into Town's 2-1 win at Wolves as they focus on some of the standout individuals. The guys also reflect on the past 3 years of ITFC football, after the fans the club recently celebrated the 3 year anniversary of Kieran McKenna signing on as the head coach.
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Host: Tom Crack
Guest: Rob Binns
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Ipswich vs Wolves Analysis
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to another edition of the Daily Ipswich here on the Global Sports Podcast Network. It is Tactics Tuesday. So once we gave our thoughts on Town's brilliant 2-1 win away against Wolves on Monday's show, we're here today to offer our deep dive thoughts on the big win from McKenna's side with all things Tactics. Bit more intricate look at Saturday's game. To help me do that, I'm once again joined by Mr. Rob Bins. How are you doing, Rob?
00:00:34
Rob Binns
I'm doing well. Cheers, Tom. Looking forward to another Tactics Tuesday.
00:00:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Lovely stuff.
Russell Martin's Sacking and Impact
00:00:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Before we get into all things tactics from Molyneux this past Saturday, just a bit of news to go through as well. Good for town, bad for other cars, which is what we'd like to see.
00:00:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Tale of two managers in the things I'm going to cover here, Rob. First is Russell Martin's sacking. I think at time of recording when we were but working this past weekend, it came just slightly after, actually came on Sunday, didn't it? So I think we were a bit too late to look at that. But Russell Martin, the latest manager to get the boot after their shocking five nil loss at home to Tottenham this past weekend. What are your thoughts on another manager biting the dust?
00:01:15
Rob Binns
Yeah, it's been coming, hasn't it? but bremart And east he wasn't very popular amongst the fans last season. And the sort of the playoff final just about tipped enough of him into his favor to let him carry on this year. Because I know there was a few that wanted him out the door and someone more established to come in from the start in the Premier League. But he's been turning more again more and more against him as the week goes by. And so as you saw on the game, so I think we recorded Sunday afternoon, didn't we? And they played Sunday night. and
00:01:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:45
Rob Binns
there was all sorts of chance going on while they got, well they went 5-0 down at half time against Spurs and I think there was boos from pretty much from kick off as they Spurs scored 30 odd seconds in, there was boos from there, Martin and out, chants. So there was all sorts, at one point they were Martin give us a wave and then when he did they booed him.
Potential New Managers for Ipswich
00:02:09
Rob Binns
which but there And he disappeared off down the tunnel, missed the fifth goal as well, so he's not even he's not even witnessed the last goal he's conceded in his reign there.
00:02:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh bless him. Yes.
00:02:19
Rob Binns
He's already gone down for the team talk, trying to somehow bore him up from being 4-0 down. They all came in not to tell him gaffer is 5.
00:02:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very much seemed as if a
00:02:27
Rob Binns
He had to go, definitely.
00:02:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Definitely, yeah. i feel I feel like heading into the season, his name was kind of already on a chopping block even before a ball was kicked, wasn't it?
00:02:35
Rob Binns
Yeah.
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, he really did seem like they were not just because, you know, a lot of new promoted sides when they don't perform well, they tend to change managers, but with him, yeah, like you said, his popularity really wasn't there as much, was it?
00:02:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
duke Do you suspect a new manager balance? anyone Anyone you've seen names-wise today? I haven't really had the chance to look, but And we talked about Oleg and his soul shell potentially being at wolves and that just being a friendly visit to McKenna supposedly. But someone like him or he's just thinking anyone can ride that ship. It seems like an easier locker room to manage than wolves right now, that's for sure.
00:03:03
Rob Binns
yeah i see it's it's you've got to be brave to take over there really because the best man available for a team down the bottom is David Moyes but is Moyes going to want to go to a team that he knows is like nailed on to go down because realistically like you're still probably going to get sacked if you don't keep them up whoever goes there you probably you know you probably got to all may unless you pull off some sort of miracle so it's like it seems like it's
00:03:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:03:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:29
Rob Binns
I think they might struggle unless they throw a lot of money at it to convince people. I think they might really struggle to certainly get someone in for the long term. They might effectively just do an interim, what turns out to be an interim until the end of the season. And then someone starts afresh in the championship or if they do go down that I'm not sure.
McKenna's Leadership at Ipswich
00:03:48
Rob Binns
I suppose it depends on what motivates the individuals, but I can't see it being a popular opportunity, especially for some of the names that have been are available so Moyes would be your standout wouldn't he but i can't see anyone like that taken for it because it just seems nailed on they're going to go down that you sort of you either commit into a year in the championship or think or backing yourself to pull off some sort of miracle escape which i'm not sure many people will think that's worth the time especially like a Moyes sort of character
00:04:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:04:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, especially like you look at where they are on the table, it does seem like it's kind of doom and gloom. Obviously, you do get some times managers who go in knowing the kind of they are going to be in the championship next year, and they kind of rebuild. We saw that, you know, even with Benitez at Newcastle once years ago, wasn't aware they did that there.
00:04:30
Rob Binns
Yeah.
00:04:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that was a crazy thing about down the league below. The current favorite, I know this is the Uptown podcast, but it's big news in football today. Current favorite is Castor Huyman, Huyman, might not say the name wrong. He was the Denmark coach from 2020 to 2024, which, you know, had a very good spell of that team there.
00:04:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it'd be interesting if he does go there. brand new club football for him as well. But yeah, another manager of second, I think town of the only team now in the bottom four who haven't let the manager go, which I did not see being the case, especially moving on to our next part of the news to.
00:05:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
be around for town this week was it was McKenna's three year anniversary when he signed for the club, December 16th. So yesterday is when he signed, put pen to paper at Portland road. And it's been a fantastic three years for him professionally and for us as fans, Rob, just so many things. We've said we've wax lyrical that McKenna all season as as we should on and off air, but just talk to me about the journey. He's put his lettuce on these past three years. It's been fantastic, hasn't it?
00:05:28
Rob Binns
Yeah, it's been quite a decent appointment, to be fair. It worked out rather well. the it was It was a big punt at the time, wasn't it?
00:05:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just a bit.
00:05:36
Rob Binns
I mean, it it's on paper it seemed decent getting someone in from Man United, but he was getting scapegoated a lot, as was Michael Carrick, who's who who's also gone on to have a very good career of his own as a manager.
00:05:49
Rob Binns
But both particularly under Solskjaer, it was a lot of the coaches getting the blame and sort of and everyone saw, so it was a massive risk to take because as far as you knew from the outside looking in, it was McKenna and Carrick that were meant to be the main problems, not Ollie on a soldier. So it was a big risk and they say the club, since the new owners have come in, they've gone a very particular way about things, they like the data, they like they want to build the project and fair and fair play to them, they got the perfect man for the job it seems and nobody could have possibly predicted
00:06:26
Rob Binns
how well it's gone since he's come in. the but i think We all knew we had to get promoted really. He was like the last few managers before him found out if he didn't put yourself, put us in serious contention of promotion from league one, he was gonna lose his job fairly quickly. So the first bit we all saw coming, but what's happened what happened the year after that is done better than anybody's predictions. And you can't struggle to put it into words, the impact he's had in three years,
00:06:55
Rob Binns
And the best part is to say that a lot of those players are still here, that from that initial squad, even further than what he's either inherited or who he signed himself in his first summer window. And it's still that site the same sort of group of players. And he's taken them through. He's not gone a splashed 50 mil in the championship, and then 200 mil in the Premier League, not built a brand new completely brand new squad like Northam Forest did when they came up. He's taken the same core of players through two different divisions, which is incredible.
00:07:25
Rob Binns
management in all senses of it really.
00:07:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's very much a great example of how a manager really does change the team. Like you said, with having the same crux of players predominantly through League One to Championship to now Premier League. You look at this past weekend, so many standout players the past few weeks have been the guys who've been there since McKenna was arrived at the club. So it really showed that it's not necessarily the quality of the player, it's more him as a boss. Before we go to the first break of today's show, like just a question I want to pose to you and everyone listening, if you I don't know how you feel about this, but with McKenna, these past three years, it's been the best three years. I can remember for a long time as at any time. So I'm sure it's the same for many people listening, but is he the level of a Ramsey and a Robson or is he more? I know disrespect because one of our best managers as well, but more about the George Burley sort of level. I think we can, if you look back, saying 10, 20 years time, would you the revere Keira McKenna the same way we revere someone like George Burley? He was a legend and got to the exact same thing, getting us up to the Premier League.
00:08:24
Rob Binns
Yeah, I think he's as much as as brilliant as he has been. He can't go in the, he can't go in the Ramsey Robson category. They've got to be just the tier above everybody else.
00:08:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:08:34
Rob Binns
I mean, he might well if he stays for five years or so and competes for major trophies and yeah he will be right up there but i think yeah it burley's i think is a good comparison i'd say and but again i think i'd want to see you want it to end well as well you don't want to it needs to have like a nice ending to the story you don't want it to be like you don't want it to like leave halfway through next season or something they were like you don't want it all you don't have to be soured if we get relegated and he then goes and takes a more high profile job you want it sort of you feel like we're like Ashton like Ashton said a couple of times this year that we're not at the end we're at the it's just the end of the beginning phase in this project so you feel like there's a long way to go still and hopefully he can there's going to be some sort of fairy tale ending or just the story continues and it can end perfectly and there'll be no way to sour it but i think
00:09:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:09:30
Rob Binns
but We'll put him probably just under burly for now and then with potential for big potential to climb higher up with how this season and onwards plays out and the longer we keep him at the club the better.
Tactical Breakdown of Ipswich's Victory
00:09:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. If you look at especially Burley's first season, the Premier, how fantastic they did. That's sort of like the two, only two real things you can differentiate between him and McKenna right now as coaches in the Premier League. And he's definitely got one on him there for the time being. We're going to take our first break. And when we come back, we're going to, like I said, it's Tactics Tuesday. So we're going to dive deep into Town's 2-1 victory at Molyneux this past weekend.
00:10:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back here on Tactics Tuesday, the daily Ipswich podcast here on the Global Sports Podcast Network. First, we're going to dive deep into the town's formation this past weekend, 4-2-3-1, something we've come to expect from the team moving forward. Just going through the line up here, Rob, we'll get your thoughts on individuals as we go on. Back four, oh, sorry, Marich, back four consists and consisting of Harry Clarke, Dara O'Shea and Burgess, then reliable Leif Davis at left back.
00:10:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
centre mid pairing of Jens Küste, Sam Morsy, then a three behind the lap in Hutchinson on the left, Chaplin in the middle, of Burns on the right, then at Liam Delappe up top. Just starting with the front four, shall we say, like we say, it was Amari on the left and Chaplin in the middle, but going through the game, Rob, it's something I noticed was how we kind of looked to play on the right and Amari and Chaplin were kind of alternating as a middle pairing.
00:11:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Question I want to ask you is, do we know what our best front three is behind the lap now? Like it's healthy competition. The good thing, obviously Schmonix wasn't about, but like with ah with everyone fully fit, do you feel like you could nail it on?
00:11:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I feel like it changes every week, doesn't it?
00:11:33
Rob Binns
I know mine, but whether where mine is what?
00:11:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
What's yours?
00:11:38
Rob Binns
Mine is Chaplin 10, Amari right, Schmodik's left.
00:11:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right.
00:11:44
Rob Binns
that's That's what I'm picking if I'm in Kiri McKenna's shoes. But I don't know whether my opinion is shared by the club, and we're still or whether there is a preferred three there at all, and whether it is just we have a different selection of threes we can we can put together at different points.
00:12:01
Rob Binns
and based on different games, working on a game by game basis. But for me, the threes, there have been the three most consistent performers when they've been playing those three here in those row.
00:12:14
Rob Binns
Burns has had a lot of poor games. He's had a couple of good ones recently, which is hopefully a sign that that's the level he's going to start getting to now. But we're not seeing much of Clarke, particularly a couple of times he has started.
00:12:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
Ipswich's Defensive Strategies
00:12:26
Rob Binns
We can't have old Ben A, obviously, of his injury with Johnson. look very good there against Spurs but it is ultimately a fallback trying to play on the wing which I personally wouldn't prefer unless it was that like you say that sort of game away from home to a big six that I think it works perfectly like it did in that game that I wouldn't have gone to Wolves and wanted to start Ben Johnson on the wing because like I say he's ultimately trying to push a fallback up the pitch so so ah ah I'm tempted to see broad heads from the start I'm hoping we do at some point because
00:12:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
you have.
00:13:00
Rob Binns
He's obviously phasing his way back in with his injury troubles, but I do think potentially he could work his way into a spot there because he's looked very bright when he's come off a bench. But I say in all honesty, I don't know is the answer to your question really. Do do we know, what it do the club know what the best one is? I don't know if we do. I don't know if we want to know either. I wonder if we would rotate, but I just know ah ah certainly know the three I'd pick if I was in charge of the team.
00:13:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think to be fair you made a good point about depends who we play as well because Schmonix yes hasn't provided, hat sorry has provided some key goals this season which really you haven't seen from Burns but then again just to echo your point from I think it was Monday's show saying how you can see that chemistry excuse me between Chaplin and Burns which, you know, they've had that for a good two or so years and they definitely seem to sort of know where each other's going to be on the pitch. So there's there's good things to have. And yeah, hopefully Burns can get back into good form. I use a couple of good games now. So hopefully you can kick on from there. Going to move to the defense now and just going through some of the stats here. I know we've obviously conceded our fair share this season, but we seem to, we we did have more attempts on goal, but RXG actually was slightly higher and
00:14:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
did block a few, a few, fewer shots with him as well. So I think we added more chances on goal there. I'm going to go through, I want to go through the whole defense. Rob is individuals here. Cause I think obviously with chopping and changing all the time, starting with leaf Davis, I saw his fantastic stat on social media past few days. And obviously we talk about leaf Davis as chance creation and stuff and compare him to some of the best players in the league. But I'm going to move past that here and compare them to every player in Europe, because looking at his stats here, I'm going to paraphrase this, but it's just time to find a leaf Davis.
00:14:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
has it's a creative hub of McKenna's side. Only Junior Ito of Liga side, Rem, has created a larger proportion of his team's chances across Europe's top five leagues this season. So Leif Davis has created 31.3% of our team's chances this season. The only player in the prem who's slightly near him is Dwight MacNillan, 27. We've we sung Davis's praises like constantly as we should, but it's just another example of how key he is. like Getting over a quarter of our chance is created.
00:15:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
So important he stays fit, isn't it?
00:15:18
Rob Binns
Yeah, I think he's really, that stats really interesting to see really, because he had a slow start for the season as well. He didn't so sort of took him four or five games to adapt to the Premier League level and really start to, particularly in the attacking sense, he sort of start the season very cautious and picking his moments when to go more focused and more and try not to get done on the counter attack.
00:15:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:40
Rob Binns
But now he's back and he's sort of free flow and getting up and down the pitch, helping the odds out. And it's working well and I do think as we've said a few times, Burgess, having Burgess next to him and has seems to increase his confidence levels in terms of going forward.
00:15:57
Rob Binns
And it has made a big difference. And then we'll say, it's kind of tough on Greaves really, because he played really well. And so the the period they played together was that period where they were both adapting to Premier League football.
00:16:10
Rob Binns
So maybe none of them had a few games under their belt, they might be able to start working that together.
00:16:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:15
Rob Binns
They've done it again, but he does just look a lot more confident with Burgess in that left center half role and he does just he's we see the quality he's got on his left foot that some of the Obviously the cross and stands out the most but some of the passes he plays just genuinely just isn't like in the building up to the attacks rather than not even They have one for the lap comment who it was against now.
00:16:37
Rob Binns
Are you stuck in clean through? That wasn't you know, I'm trying to come over who it was against
00:16:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, Fulham, I believe. Was it Fulham? Oh, it was Villa. It was Villa. It was, uh, when he was throwing goal, Martin is his really good save.
00:16:45
Rob Binns
Oh, Villa, yeah, Villa, yeah. Yeah, he's got, you know, he's got ones like that, yeah.
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:49
Rob Binns
He's got ones like that, and he's got crosses in the locker, but just some of the way he just, he hits the ball with such conviction when he like gets us up the pitch. He'll just sit, he'll zip one straight into the feet of Chaplin to receive on the half turn or something, and that's 40 yards made up as we look to go and start a counter-attack, is that it's such a crucial part to the but to the trend When we saw try and hit on fast breaks, of this as we've seen in the last couple of years as well, we'll win the ball, one on the centre, after we win the ball, at roll it out here and then bang, you just zip the perfect ball forward. It's such an outlet to have. And again, what we were saying about McKenna was another one we want to keep with the club for as long as possible because he is massive to the way we play. And if he gets injured, we look in trouble.
00:17:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very much so touched on it there slightly.
Center-Back Pairing Options
00:17:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
His chemistry of Burgess. We've all noticed that I'm sure everyone listening has noticed that in recent games as well. It's something I feel people are starting to debate now with Greece potentially coming back. but Obviously it made that cameo against Palace and you know, obviously first game back is never going to be hunky-dory. I mean, it isn't rare case cases, but for the most part, it's always hard to play well in your first game back. Fully fit are all our centre backs.
00:18:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
what is our best parent because I'm struggling now to see how Greece can get back into that parent because O'Shea's really turned it up I think for what we expect of his level he's at a decent level now hasn't made many errors as much recently or he's less under the microscope I should say but Burgess has been a revelation I read and think you know coming to the season, our first set-up pairing was Wolfenden and Greaves. So the pairing we have now isn't the one we even started the first game of the season. So it's shown that maybe we didn't expect Burgess to be our third choice, let alone nailed on starter. But for you, what is your best pairing if if there is one? Like to see week in, week out, if everyone's fit. It seems like a tough call to make, doesn't it?
00:18:39
Rob Binns
Yeah, we're right now the best partnership is Burgess and O'Shea. There's no reason to break that up, just for the sake of it.
00:18:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:45
Rob Binns
it's You only split you spin it up for rotation purposes when games are coming thick and fast.
00:18:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:18:50
Rob Binns
There's no reason to just drop one when they are playing consist so consistently well. They're building that partnership. And it's harsh on Greaves who start the season well before obviously getting injured, but you can't just always force a player back in after an injury.
00:19:06
Rob Binns
Sometimes the player who fills in the role comes into their stride and is playing too well to be dropped. And that's what the case is with Burgess and O'Shea. not neither of them deserves to be dropped for any reason other than maybe they need to rest for a game if we're playing two games in a week. On the performances they're putting in, they deserve to be starting week in, week out, and you'd be silly to break that partnership up for the sake of it just to try and force back. Even if he had spent 20 million pounds on Greaves, he's got to work his way back in. And maybe might maybe he might even need an injury to one of the other two to get his way back in. But until if they keep playing the way they're playing, they might do every week.
00:19:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think I'm gonna agree. I think Greaves really, for me, has been, it sounds strange to say, considering a lot of guys we signed in the summer and stuff, obviously to that's been fantastic. But for me, Burgess has been, I think Rich said it in a recent episode, maybe been one of our top three players of this season, which I know is a a big thing to say, but and its maybe that comes from a slight area of not not expecting it.
00:20:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But once that level of expectation is slightly there or sort of confidence in him, that is definitely there for us now. Like he doesn't really put a foot wrong and it's like the passion he shows, you remember that awful, we don't remember it to be honest, but the awful ending against Bournemouth a week or so ago, the way he screamed the dilap, sorry, Davis, when he didn't cover his man and they put the ball in to take the lead.
00:20:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just shows the passion he has, you know, he was obviously, he's been at a club for a long time now, signed from Accrington Stanley for a pittance in comparison to a lot of his teammates. So he's made over a hundred appearance for clubs. so He's really like, he's dug in and he's a proper important member of a team, isn't he?
Right-Back Position Concerns
00:20:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't have to go back too deep into our next player I'm going to mention here, but right back's obviously injury wise with twins AB, unfortunately, just being cursed. It seems yeah he gets fit for one game and gets injured for another, however many.
00:20:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Harry Clarke played right back this weekend, and sometimes I'm a bit nervous, shall we say, with him being in the side. I don't think he'd necessarily be nailed on and in the team, but just watching the full 90 this past weekend, it was definitely his best performance of the season. I think that maybe was something to do with the level of opposition we played. But do you see any chance like, ah what what just what's your feeling, Clarke, I should say, like, you know, with the injuries we have and You're shaking your head slightly, but like, do you see him as like, you're confident when guys are injured and stuff and he's in a team?
00:21:22
Rob Binns
Yeah. I'm not convinced in all honesty at this level. They have taken the emotion side out of it because obviously he's local lad.
00:21:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:37
Rob Binns
He loves everything about the club. He's brilliant. Got to have around. He's sort of, he's our proxy almost as fans that he's experiencing it being with a team on the pitch all the time, but he does look shaky.
00:21:49
Rob Binns
Obviously Brentford, first star. He scored an own goal and got sent off. It's not an ideal start. And then he didn't too do too badly this game. I thought, like you said, it's probably the best of his limited performances he's had. It was his best one, but he's still been booked again. And he just, he doesn't pass tests with flying colours. He sort of gets along or maybe makes the odd mistake, but as this option, while we've got injuries, it will do because Johnson hasn't looked too convincing as a fullback. He has
00:22:21
Rob Binns
I don't like playing him at right mid, because it feels like a full back playing out position, but still I'm not 100% convinced when I've seen him in the four either, so I'm not sure really where the ba what the best thing to do with Johnson is. and Trans-Abage is the one, but obviously we're limited on when we can pick him. I can't even remember what his time frame is or when he's going to be back, so we've got to make do. but I'm really stuck on right back, I'd almost be tempted to...
00:22:52
Rob Binns
aren too much i i don't want to break I don't want to break the partnership up, but I'd almost be tempted to chuck a shout right back and bring a another sender back in, because neither have convinced me too much.
00:22:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Hmm.
00:23:01
Rob Binns
Johnson more so than Clarke, so he would probably be... I'd give Johnson another go with the Newcastle, I think, and then hopefully he stepped up, and then I don't know where to go from there, but Clarke just sort of...
00:23:14
Rob Binns
These sort of games... against lower opposition, it would do all right. Well, I wouldn't throw him in for anyone higher up than sort of those directly around us.
00:23:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
It does seem very much one of those players who it's clear to see where their ceiling is, which is it's a harsh thing to say. There's certain guys who've been in the teams in these leagues below and who have come up and flourished and you feel like they could be even more from the likes of David, so I feel like he hasn't even reached his full height yet.
00:23:39
Rob Binns
the
00:23:42
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Burgess has put up some great performances as well and there's a few other guys like maybe from Burns we expect a bit more. But with with Clark, I feel like, like I said, this past weekend was his best performance, and it wasn't anything too glamorous. But you know he did he did he did his job, which is the best we can ask for, I think, to be honest, out of a player of that quality. We're going to take our final break now when we come back. We're going to look at the attacking side of things from this past weekend, as well as, actually, I've seen this problem some transfer news regarding a potential number nine in January.
00:24:40
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And we are back here with final part of today's episode of the daily upps switch, looking back at some of the key players and moments from this past weekend's victory.
Delappe's Performance and Rotation
00:24:48
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Looking at Liam Delappe, I've noticed in certain games, Robert, and it it makes sense when you run your socks off like that. But with him, I think like if you look, it's hard to call it a flaw, but just I think with him as a player, it's if you do see how he does kind of tail off come 65-70 minutes onwards because that sort of bombing pace he has at the top of games you saw it which which what led to our first goal on Saturday. Do you see that as a slight the way he plays his game? Do you think moving forward throughout his career do you think and with us this season I may be completely bonkers here but
00:25:25
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with that style of play, does he kind of set himself short but when we get to the 90 and we umre we're in need of goals and our main guy's gone off because he's ran his socks off. Do you think there's an argument for slow down a bit or like keep keep doing you and hopefully you can stick around for 90? Too bad, if we probably need, well, I was gonna say if we needed a goal, he would stick on B. We're still taking off this past weekend. So it does show that he kind of maybe has his limits physically. I don't know, where where do you stand on all that?
00:25:52
Rob Binns
Yeah, I don't know, to be honest. I think he just looks really tired. think at the start of the year he was last in a lot longer in games than he was in the years now, in terms of round and round at full pelt.
00:25:57
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Yeah.
00:26:03
Rob Binns
And I said that yesterday, I thought Bournemouth especially, he just looked shattered. And as much as I want him to play against Newcastle, but I do, I'm sort of trying to look the positive.
00:26:14
Rob Binns
I do think the suspension may well work out better in the long term in that he, yeah, I don't know that he just gets that rest before we have then games coming fast again.
00:26:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:25
Rob Binns
And then just to get him through till January where we can get another pair of legs in. So it isn't because the trust doesn't seem to be there for Al Hamadi for a 90 minute game.
00:26:36
Rob Binns
He's seen, he can do the job, like I said, if Dilap's only got 70 minutes in, he can come on for 20 or so and cover the running aspect, but he doesn't cover the physicality, the goal score, and all those other qualities Dilap has. He works just as hard as him, which is sometimes what we need in those situations, but he's clearly not gonna be the, he's not the standout option we've got off a bench, and you probably would argue to keep Dilap on,
00:27:05
Rob Binns
even if he's
Strengthening Ipswich's Striker Position
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yeah
00:27:06
Rob Binns
run an 80%.
00:27:09
Rob Binns
I think he's just tired and as painful as it is short term in going into Saturday, I do think that him missing a game due to suspension would hopefully sort of spark him back into life.
00:27:09
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Yep.
00:27:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, I think you're right. With that number nine, like I alluded to before the break there, we are very much in need of a striker coming off the bench who maybe has a bit more quality in our offense, Ali El Hamadi, and with George Hurst's unfortunate injury, week we'd had that in a player before he went down seemingly for the season. I don't know if you've had a look around, Rob, but a name that seems to be floating around as the January window approaches in the next couple of weeks is a player, I believe, we tried to sign on deadline day this past summer.
00:27:48
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And apologies if I'm getting the, if I'm butchering my name ever so slightly here, but it's Middlesbrough's Emanuel Latte Lath. striker for Borough scored the winner this past weekend, actually for the club in the 10th minute, no one will win.
00:28:01
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Just the reason I bring him up is because his agent who revealed about the deadline day bid from us over the summer, he said, he said, which is quite strange. I mean, I guess agents are the ones to sort of talk a bit about their players rather than coaches and stuff in this regard when it comes to transfers.
00:28:14
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But he did say he expects he expects town to maybe come back in for his in for his client January.
00:28:20
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um I'm not that well versed on the guy, but that is very much, if you look at our squad, that that area of the field is something that needs bolstering come January, isn't it?
00:28:31
Rob Binns
Yeah, definitely that's the area that's the number one area I mean like I say that doesn't seem like the the trust is there for our how many to be going in from the start and the Premier League maybe say I imagine he'll be up there for the Bristol Rovers game in the cup unless we do sign somebody and throw up straight in that
00:28:43
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No.
00:28:50
Rob Binns
He doesn't seem to have that trust to go from the start and you simply can't. we We're playing with fire start and dilap every single game in the festive period that he's, he's bound to sort of pick again another route, probably long-term benefit out of him being suspended for Newcastle is that it stops him playing every single game for 70 odd minutes in this period because everyone else, there's lots, there's options there. We want to rotate. The two are sort of dilap and Davis that won't really you won't see them sort of get rotated out to have a rest, because A, how important they are to how we play, and B, due to the to drop off between the backup option in Town's End of the Day was his case. And then Al Hamadi, that we need someone that we can rely on and rotate with the lap, because him playing like he shattered doesn't work well for us either, though he didn't he didn't well he wasn't very effective against Bournemouth, because he just looked like he struggled to run.
00:29:46
Rob Binns
and we can't rely on him too much because we're almost at the point now that so what we are at the point. If he got injured against Wolves and he was out for three months and we've already got a Hurst out, we're in trouble at that point in terms of where the where the goal was coming from.
00:30:01
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Yeah.
00:30:03
Rob Binns
So we need to get somebody in that controls help to fill that gap.
00:30:04
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just
00:30:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very much so. Well, we've largely left in mind, not necessarily him as an individual, but something, because obviously last year is when we brought in Keith Moore, just to sort of have that bit bit of extra help up top with her obviously being injured again.
00:30:22
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So what sort of player do you think should come in in that, let's be honest, sub number nine role, because started off 25 years old is bank eight, eight goals already scored the winner this past weekend, weekend very much a player's use to starting. Do you think we should maybe go for a ah ah player like him who's come from the championship, like we've done with a lot of our signings this season already, or maybe with a more experienced Premier League proven strike, who maybe is like in his early, early stages of 30 years old and not necessarily a starter anymore. I can't think of anyone. and that comes to mind, maybe you can, but what what sort of player do you think should occupy that role? Because, yeah, if if you're a starter somewhere else, you may not be comfortable regardless if it's Premier League or not to be on the bench in what is the prime of your career.
00:31:05
Rob Binns
Yeah, don' I think it depends really on who you're getting. I'd like to see, and I think from what I've seen in bits and bobs of Latela, he seems like a good player.
00:31:16
Rob Binns
I mean, his goal record is certainly decent considering, say, he spent the bulk of his career in the Italian third division before Middlesbrough signed him.
00:31:16
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Yeah.
00:31:26
Rob Binns
He had a couple of good, I think he went on about four different loans in the Italian third division and second division between the two. I think he was in Switzerland. so some Switzerland, Sweden, somewhere like that. He was at the year before Borough signed him. And then his record in the championship has been very good. So it's whether that carries over. I mean, in Schmodix's case, it's it's a sort of similar, same sort of situation with less goals, obviously. that that we did And we we decided to have a goal with Schmodix and he's shown he can play at this level. so
00:31:59
Rob Binns
That's the sort of thing I would, that's the area that makes the most sense to me. I know we are trying to look to foreign markets more often now. So I don't know if that's the way they might look to go. They'd take a punt there, but and I'd be thinking and go recruit some of the better players in the championship.
00:32:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Hmm.
00:32:15
Rob Binns
You can tight and tie some in with Premier League football and then the chance to stay there. And that'd be the where I'd look to go with it rather than taking a punt on somebody else from another league or like you say, get maybe or maybe try to loan somebody in for six months and then see how it works. i I think I'll just, something like this sort of deal, I'd go get a Smodix-esque player from a championship. So fairly young, good goal record. Looks like they've got the quality to step up. That'd be where I'd look to go because ultimately you want some, you want competition for places. You want someone who's going to have a battle. If the lap doesn't score for three or four games, you want someone who's going to be knocking on that door saying, why am I not playing? If he's not scoring, then
00:32:57
Rob Binns
put me in. that you You want to have that option because at the moment if that happened to go on a 10-game goal drought or something, we probably don't look like there's many others who will step up and score those goals in those 10 games. So you want competition for places in every position. There's some sort of quote about it, I can't remember, that you effectively want two starters in every position and then you let them fight out. Like we say, like we've got sort of greaves and burges in that We know we've got the quality of groups.
00:33:24
Rob Binns
They're trying to knock back in, but he can't because Burgess is playing so well. That's what we want. We want, we want to have the lap putting in these big performance. Cause he's got someone knocking on the door. It keeps coming off the bench and having an impact.
00:33:35
Rob Binns
And right now I want to, so I want to be starting and now. i' score I've scored, I've scored two games in a row off the bench. Why am I still on the bench? that That's what we want. You want someone who has that mindset that they want to be coming in to kick the lap out of the team, whether they do or not.
00:33:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:33:49
Rob Binns
whereas wec but you want someone to come in, they want you want to sit down in that first interview and say, I want to be a star, rather than someone who's happy to be on the bench and be delapsed back up because that's the sort of way we've got to go with it, I think.
00:34:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, to be honest, just realizing, I don't think Dilap scored since her's gone down. So since he's not had someone breathing down his neck to come on the pitch and score a goal, he hasn't actually scored. So maybe that could be something to change. I think also with Latidath as well, like a player of that quality, if you've got, heaven forbid, we do go down and Dilap maybe stays in the prem as as as good he's been here. It could be the case. so Having a player such as this is great to have in a position like that and kind of a ready-made starter, isn't it, regardless? So that could be the man to take his place in the future if things don't go off this season.
00:34:33
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but Anyway, that's going to do it for today's show. Thank you so much, everyone, for listening.
00:34:36
Rob Binns
Oh, before we go, actually something, sorry, we forgot something I meant to do yesterday and forgot.
00:34:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
If you join us tomorrow... Oh, yeah. Oh, go on. Sorry. I missed something.
00:34:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:34:43
Rob Binns
We're too busy talking about the excitement of getting a win and everything
Ipswich Women's Team Achievements
00:34:46
Rob Binns
with the wall result. We completely forgot to shout out the fact that the women's team reached the fourth around the FA Cup and they've got Manchester City away.
00:34:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, whoops. Oh, bloody hell. I'm in Manchester. Go see that.
00:34:56
Rob Binns
Yeah, so it's incredible for them. They're always on the up every year. They just pull out these sort brilliant result. 1-0 win against Bournemouth and so they've got their rewards there.
00:35:08
Rob Binns
They're off to face Manchester City. I think it's on the same day as the Bristol Rovers game.
00:35:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cool friend.
00:35:12
Rob Binns
I believe it's the same, I think it's the exact same day. It's definitely the same weekend but congratulations Dave. I meant to i meant to chuck that in at the end of yesterday but I got too excited with the last minute goal and everything to talk about.
00:35:24
Rob Binns
The big ups to Jo Sheehan and all the girls there.
00:35:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a good time to be playing Man City, but if you look at the men's and women's team, it's a good time to be playing City, isn't it?
00:35:29
Rob Binns
Hopefully they pull off the shock.
00:35:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because City actually, women's team lost against Everton over the weekend as well, so things just aren't going well on either side of the the club, but there as well. I think it's also, you know, they're at the top of the WPL Premier Division, so up hopefully promotion of the championship will happen this year.
00:35:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Three points clear, but they have got X here, they've got two games in hand behind them, but hopefully they can hold on. and go up this season. Thanks for bringing that up. Yeah, it's a good thing to shout out to the women's team. We should probably do that more often, actually, because we've got a lot of great things going around the club, and the women's team is definitely one of them, that's for sure. But that is going to do it for today's show. If you also want to join us tomorrow, it's a special edition of the pod. Obviously, with the year coming to a close now, we're going to do the daily Ipswich Awards for 2024. So we're going to do things like goal, player, moment of the season, signing of the year, that kind of thing. We'll pick some, I'll pick up some nominees and myself and the rest of the team. We'll debate them and
00:36:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
sort of pick out moments. Obviously, if you don't agree with us after we've picked out what may be the best moment of the year, Garso doesn't tell us how we're wrong. But yeah, we'll be on tomorrow's show. So thank you so much for joining us. That's goodbye from me, Rob, and we'll see you next time.