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New Year, Allegedly
20 Plays4 years ago
It’s clearly December 54th, 2020. In this episode, we discuss white supremacists occupying the Capitol, slow vaccine rollout, the pandemic’s effect on healthcare providers, and how Clubhouse can go wrong.
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Introduction to SNMA Elections
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Podcast Goals for 2021
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was good everybody SNMA fam welcome to SNMA presents the lounge whether you're in the student lounge doctor's lounge or lounging around at home get ready to join SNMA for meaningful conversations on topics affecting minorities in medicine and groups that often sit at the margins of health care
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I'm your boy, student Dr. Alduin, and my 2021 is going to be explosive, exciting, entertaining, and enlightening. Drop the bars. Let's go.
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Hear it. I'm student Dr. Isabella, and my 2021 is going to be, it's going to be a renewal, right? Because 2020 was all types of adjectives, all types of nouns, whatever you want to call it, it was it was a lot. So this is the year that I'm going to be starting fresh and new with a different perspective on how to move in this new year.
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I love it, y'all. Let's get it. This is student Dr. Erica Dingle. What's up, what's up? And my 2021 is going to be focused, intentional, peaceful, and all about where the money reside, where the money reside, where the money reside, where the money reside. And that's on hold. I've never had a little lamb. See, that's what we gotta be about this year. Paper, all day.
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period. Happy New Year to all of y'all, to the SNMA fam. Happy New Year to my co-workers. Erica Isabella, we made it through another year. The pandemic. Thank God. Such a devastating, but yet, educating experience for us all. And I know we're going to talk a little bit more about that. But how's that New Year
Lessons from 2020 and Future Intentions
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so far? What are some of the lessons that you guys have had in 2020, and how has that transferred to 2021?
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I mean, it's been wild.
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Yeah, like, I think that this new year has so far, I can say for the most part has just been just different overall for me. Just because it's like, you know, we came in talking about we have these vaccines ready. So I think people are like, kind of having this new outlook, okay, maybe we could eventually be a little bit off the woods by summertime and live our lives. But overall, I just think that is just kind of just been like, okay, you know what, we know 2020 was many things and it, you know, wasn't
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a year we were expecting and I don't think we thought it was going to take up a whole year but just overall excited to start fresh and look just kind of looking ahead I think I'm very much looking ahead this year and I know that things can't hopefully get any worse than they were last year so definitely.
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I kind of feel that, um, it's almost like I have taken a deep inhale and exhaled all of whatever I was feeling from 2020. And I know although new year doesn't mean like new season always, but you can kind of, you can propel yourself into a new season in your mindset, I think. So my goal is just to stay positive. Um,
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Positive, prayerful, and intentional. Seriously, if it takes my peace, then it's not for me. It ain't worth it. That's it. At school. I feel like school takes all of our peace, right? True. But anything aside from that, I need to have laser focus. So what about you, Aldi? If it takes your peace, then peace it out.
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Word. I would say the main thing is bringing in the same resilience I had in 2020 into 2021, keeping the same positive energy, maintaining the momentum I've had, you know, I really explored other aspects of my life in 2020 with yoga,
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engaging in meditation, mindfulness, exploring other niches, learning about investing, learning about real estate, learning about, you know, really exploring how I could evolve as a person just outside of medicine. And I've done a lot of introspection and learned me as a black man, I have a lot.
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for my life and I have a lot to lead and a lot to aspire just not for myself but for my community and there's so much impact that's left for us to really influence and instill in our individual community so it's just a whole host of things and I'm feeling really energetic and really happy to be in this place and this space to be part of medicine and go back and create the change I want to see in the world so we out here man
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I love that. I love it. Energetic about the purpose and about us being a medicine. So let's get it.
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Okay. So as you all know, for our preclinical students, we love this part of the show. Y'all it's called run the list. As we do on patient wards, running the list allows the team to address pressing matters of the day. So that's what we about to get into the pressing matters of 2021 so far, the recent events that have taken place and things that affect our communities and the populations we serve.
Celebrating New U.S. Leadership
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So.
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What y'all think? We got a new president and a new Madam Vice President. I had to sing about that. Honestly, honestly. I know. Shout out to Erica, AKA Life. You know, y'all represent. Shout out to Howard University. OK, they ring the 49 bells, the 49. Did y'all hear it? The 49 bells? No, I wasn't there. But I heard the 49 bells. I didn't hear it. But I mean, I'm glad they didn't know. Shout out to, look, I'm rooting for everybody Black.
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Let's do it. Let's do it.
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OK, period. Howard, Hanson, Alabama State, whatever schools you came from, any school, any HBCU, that's the point. Like, HBCU's perfect greatness. Can we get a clap one? And that's it. That's a word. That's a word right there.
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Yeah, but honestly, I'm surprised that Biden made it in there. I'm very much shocked because listen, all the nonsense that occurred leading up to this man being able to put his pinky toe in the White House, it was completely crazy from the Capitol nonsense with the mobs and all that stuff that we know that no Black person would have came in there alive if they did that nonsense.
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to all of this controversy that's been occurring with Trump having to get impeached again and all these crazy things. And then Trump going to the court, how many times to try and basically say that an election was unfair, we know for the whole time there was no rigging. It's just crazy just how much really occurred from the time that this man lost to the time that Biden entered the White House. I honestly just didn't think that there was, I thought there was going to be another problem. So just to see him actually
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and Kamala be able to walk into that space. Yesterday was still very much mind boggling to me, and I'm actually very, very happy to say that. At least we can start up a fresh four years and see where it goes with someone that doesn't have the last name Trump, period. I'll tell you why I knew he was going to win. Because people were chanting and calling on African angels
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They got sent to us with a money reside. Okay, so that's why. To be honest though, that was a joke. I was shook. I remember around election season, we were all talking on Zoom and on text and we were all kind of sitting there with bated breath. So
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It was, I'm very elated and filled with joy that he did not win. And that we have new administration changes here again. And also like, it's just been amazing to see the level of love and passion and respect and admiration that the president and the vice president Kamala has received. I saw a photo of countless little black girls with,
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with shirts saying, she's just like me. So, that was just so inviting to see that she's inspiring countless individuals across our society across the culture to say hey maybe one day I could run for political office, maybe one day I can choose to create an impact and create a niche for myself where that I am.
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bypassing so many barriers. And so I'm so excited and elated. I'm elated also for President Biden to be in the office. I was just watching on CNN. He designed another executive order to reduce the amount of child poverty by half
Challenges in COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution
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in America. And he's also increasing resources for unemployment because we do know that 15 million people in America are unemployed currently.
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and still receive that unemployment. And he, of course, is signing the order to get that money on deck, that 14, 14. Heard you. OK. You know what I'm saying? I need that. And don't I need that. And don't forget about the what he wants to vaccinate at least 100 million people within the next 100 days. So I need that, too, because I'm trying to be out here on my on my business this summer. So
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Whether business needs your business or pleasure. Oh, when I say business, you always got to make business with pleasure, at least in our case as medical students, because there's never any time to really fully have pleasure without a little bit of business.
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I'll tell you, I'm really excited that we rejoined the WHO, World Health Organization. I was reading about it on CNBC. They were talking about the Pfizer vaccine to supply up to, I think, 40 million doses of the COVID vaccine to this program initiative, the COVAX Global Immunization Program. So I'm happy that we're actually rejoining because it's likely going to include us at this point. But still,
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Not that many people. I mean, considering the amount of people that live in the world, how many people would that be? Like close to 20 million people likely getting vaccinated due to that? What is it? Two shots you need to receive? Yeah, two shots. You got to get one dose. And then I think you have to get another one a month after if I'm being. Yeah. Yeah. Right. 18 million almost vaccinated in America. So.
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I mean, it's not bad. Second week of December was when they gave the first dose. So we're about a little over a month in with 18 million. So I mean, I think it's possible for us to get the 100 million out. I think the thing is that a lot of states, they're finding a lot of difficulty in trying to disseminate the vaccine and kind of coordinating that. Right.
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Currently in New York, they had to postpone giving the vaccines for the last two days because number one, they're running out of vaccines and number two, they want to find an efficient way to get these hospitals the vaccines and get them in the areas that really need it the most.
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Right. And like, how do you guys think that's been going so far, like, with the distribution of the vaccines? I mean, in terms of who gets it first, you know, when the doses expire, the infrastructure, like, our current infrastructure, how they're being distributed, like, how does how does it look like it's been going so far? Personally, okay. No, dingle, dingle, dingle. Personally, I mean, living in
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in Queens, New York, I don't feel like a number of people that should be getting them are getting them.
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I know there is the age limit and obviously people who work in hospitals, like they should go first. They've been the ones on the front lines and I understand that, but there are people in underprivileged, underserved areas that I'm like, come on, why aren't you distributing vaccines in these areas? I think that thankfully there's been,
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orders placed by our new president aimed at increasing, again, the number of vaccines and then people who can actually administer them. I think that's also an issue with regards to how many people have been getting vaccinated. So if we could get more people out here vaccinating, then we likely wouldn't have a problem.
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I want to add an extra point to what you just said, Erica, in regards to who's getting it first. We all agree, I think the hospitals makes the most sense. But for me, it's more so the people in the hospital though, I don't know if it's actually been super fair because they've been giving it to doctors and nurses and all these people first who are very, very much protected already with PPE and have access to that. But those who are the janitors,
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those who do maybe food service, who aren't getting that luxury, who are working in the hospitals. I mean, I think they're low-key being neglected. And I don't really know how I feel about that. I think there's a lot of hierarchy. I think there's a lot of elitism as to who can be able to get this vaccine. And in reality, those who are getting it first technically really don't need it as badly as those who don't already have access to all that PPE.
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Right. Interesting.
Impact of Misinformation on COVID-19 Perception
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Yes. I certainly agree. Because when you look at the media coverage, even in itself, you never see any sanitation workers or any EKG techs or any of those individuals. It's always a doctor, it's always a nurse or a family practitioner that's getting it.
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interesting to see how the discussion surrounding this vaccine rollout. And then even when we talk about our communities, there's a lot of communities that are having very difficult challenges in getting access to the vaccines. You show up at the actual vaccination site and they're turning people around. Yeah, they are. Five hours, bro. Like, you won't turn me around. I said I had this and that amount. So that could be very frustrating. And like I said, that's why
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There has to be a system in place. And I think, obviously, we've seen prior to President Biden coming into office that the federal regard for the vaccine rollout was not there. There was no system. That's the problem. We really kind of actualized a true plan in moving forward.
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Yeah. Thank God for a plan and thank God for science and somebody who believes in it. I think that's where we sit right now with the current administration. They believe in science. They push it. They have people in place that are literal COVID task force.
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Before we move on, shout out to Dr. Cameron Webb, who was a former national president of SNMA. He's just been assigned to Biden's coronavirus task force. Yeah, I was actually just going to say Biden's been doing a great job, I think, with creating this task force of people that he has behind them. There's so much people of color and
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great minds, like, you know, not the typical people you would usually see in these spaces doing this kind of work. And it's not even just with like, the vaccines, it's even just like, with his other plans for like economic, you know, stimulation, get our country moving back again economically with, you know, what's it called immigration, like he's recruited such a wide array of like great black brown minds. And I'm honestly just excited to see how, you know, our country is going to look in the next
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four years after he's through with his term. How it's supposed to. Nice and colorful. Okay. You know, we keep doing this today. Oh, we on the same wavelength. It's like, speak when I speak. But we have to do the same thing.
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We probably are. Let me see. Let me see. So speaking about COVID, just the COVID vaccination and Black people being informed, I want to read a quote from a black female physician, Dr. Nicole Christian Brathwaite. I saw it on Twitter. And I think it can really help us delve in in a minute. So being a Black physician is exhausting. We have to endure racism from colleagues and patients
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and constantly fight to be recognized for the stars that we are now. Now black celebrities are attacking black female physicians for trying to dispel misinformation about the COVID vaccine. Why? So.
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Clubhouse, y'all. We're all on it. We're all on it. We sat on it very much. We had a whole meeting on it. We saw how that went. And it's like, and I really do, I like the concept of Clubhouse. I like the concept of like, you know, getting to really just
Clubhouse App: Engaging Yet Misleading?
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Talk about whatever it is the topic is on and not and not having the pressure of like, you know How do I look cuz it's all just audio and you know and just kind of feeling I guess more free to speak I think that's a really cool concept. However, I see I could get messy I can very much see I can get messy just because of the way it's like
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invite. So you think that in order to be on Clubhouse, it's like you have to kind of be of like a certain caliber. So maybe it's like, are we being exclusive of people being able to join this network? And you know, shout out to my sis Erica for even putting out because Lord knows I don't know where that Clubhouse invite was gonna come from for the last minute.
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So, you know, yes, thank you. So I appreciate that. I actually have been enjoying the app and I've actually even, um, this is off the topic, but like, you know, with, uh, Kamala getting into the White House and her being a Howard alum, you know, I'm on one of the clubs, I think it's called the Howard Collective or no, the Howard alumni. I don't know. Actually, I think it's called the Howard Collective. They had a little like quick meeting thing of just like people just having Howard pride and just like, how do we feel about the inauguration happening tomorrow? You know, I've got to say a little something, something on the stage. They invite me to the stage. So yeah.
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So I was definitely feeling myself there. So I like the concept. I like getting to really connect people in that way. I can, though, see how it could get a little bit messy in regards to the, I guess, exclusivity of it and also just people kind of getting on their high horse thinking that they know everything under the sun and can say everything with, I guess, this matter of fact attitude, even if they don't know what the heck they're talking about.
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Yeah, I think my issue is the misinformation that's being disseminated and honestly, have your opinion about the vaccination, right? I'll be very quick on this because it's only, I don't have much to say other than have your opinion, but don't give other people misinformation.
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I choose whether or not I want the vaccination based on the research that I do. And based on what other physicians who are doing the research for me tell me. But don't be out here cyberbullying on a, come on. And that's what happened. I think all, I feel like we talked about it. He might know more about the situation to speak more specifically to it, but literally cyberbullying of a black female physician about how she wanted to
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dispel the misinformation about the COVID vaccine, take it away all the way. Yeah. So, you know, I wasn't in the initial group that this happened in, but, you know, one of our other team members, she was in it and she did ping me in another group with one of the people that were kind of antagonizing this Black physician.
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which included Joe Buddens, Tiffany Haddish, it included a social media guru of sorts, he has his own radio show, Mr. Lee, I forgot his first name, and he went in the group and basically what was happening is that they
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had some kind of Dr. Sebi like doctor in the room and he was this is like like Erica said disseminating false information stating things like COVID-19 is a hoax. The government created COVID-19 COVID-19 you can treat it by rubbing lemon and lime on your body.
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And it's a group full of, you know, hundreds of people. And think about social media is people will hear things and take that information, research, they'll spread that false information to their family members, their brothers or sisters.
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And that creates, you know, like a community overall of people who are unaware and uneducated about how to protect themselves. And so a doctor came on, this black doctor came on to refute that. And essentially, all these celebrities, including Chaka Bars, this fake doctor,
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essentially went after the doctor, got her name and harassed her on social media with putting her profile up on their social media and basically trying to expose her and expose any other doctors that were popular for really refuting claims about the falseness of what there was in that group. And you know what's disgusting about this? I mean, everything about it is to me, honestly, but positions
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what of any race, spend so much time dedicated to the field of medicine. It's like you literally commit your life to learning. And some of us, most of us make sacrifices. Um, and you know, that's nobody's problem, right? We made that decision, but the audacity of you to tell me that I'm pushing the white man's agenda because I'm bettering myself to better my people's lives.
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And that was one of the things that came up as well. Like you guys are pushing the white man's agenda by pushing this type of medicine. So who's starting the school from, you know what I'm saying? Who's gonna start? And not to say like we have a Howard, we have Morehouse, we have the other black medical colleges, but if they're pushing the white man's agenda, what do you suggest, sir? What is your solution? I'm saying, cause you don't have a solution except to get COVID. Like what's going on?
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I'm not getting COVID if I don't have to. I looked at my names. I was like, yo, you think I took $460,000 of loans out just so I could push the white man's agenda. When meanwhile, it's a food desert. The mortality rate from COVID is sky high. I got people walking around looking for a job, going from place to place, struggling to have their brothers, sisters, daughters get food on the table.
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I'm not just because of the white man's agenda. I'm doing this because there's a greater purpose for myself and there's a lot on the line for myself by not committing to my community. You know what I'm saying? So I wish they understood that logic and it's crazy how they dissociate that, right? Because they're not in our position.
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But at the same time, I think it's important for us to utilize platforms like Clubhouse, Instagram, to show these celebrities, like, nah, this is not it. Like, we're going to put up and show y'all, like, we're really about this energy. Like, there's no games around this. Like, we committed to a greater purpose and a greater goal. And that's to change the outcomes of, you know, health disparities, change the mortality rate and all these kind of things that really are, you know, destructive for the Black community.
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I agree. And you know that we, we don't, I know we do, but others don't consider the impact that COVID has had on these healthcare professionals. And I'll use the people that come on Clubhouse religiously. They're not getting paid. Um, but they come to share information.
Mental Health Challenges for Healthcare Workers
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You have doctors like Dr. Magdala Sherry with the, uh, not just another black body initiative who lost both of her parents to COVID and, and
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Like people like her who have lost people and y'all have the audacity to say things like this. Like it's just a joke. And again, to that young doctor who was being cyber bullied, you don't know where her mental health state was, what her mental health state was.
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Given the fact that she's been working in this covid atmosphere like so many of the professionals, it's just it hasn't been sustainable. And there's a huge disconnect between what is being said and what people actually know, you know, like people who are on the front lines every day, the nurses who are who have literally watched people die right in front of their eyes since March.
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It's not the same as these little Trump supporters sitting in their backyard believing that COVID can't touch them because they haven't been in those spaces and thinking that wearing a mask isn't a big deal and thinking that they don't need the vaccine. And it's just such a huge disconnect, I think, in terms of everybody's reality and their perceptions.
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And that's why we need to really get serious about, you know, really rolling out these vaccines and pushing that everyone gets vaccinated because the only way we're going to not be affected by something is if we are immune to it. And that's how it goes with every major illness that we've gone through in this life, influenza of 1918, polio, all, we don't get these things like that anymore because we are vaccinated. So I don't really see where the disconnect is coming from, but I think that this is part of what Biden is going to have to focus on, which is really pushing to get these vaccines underway.
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I agree. You know, question for you all, but because I know you're in the mental health space and that's kind of what your, your focus is on. What, what are your thoughts about, I guess how COVID will impact long-term medical health or I'm saying medical health, healthcare professionals, if they don't seek help right now, like if they're not getting therapy, cause I know you talk about therapy a lot, so I really want to know.
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I think honestly, we've seen a whole host of unfortunate suicides and deaths of physicians due to COVID-19 placing such a huge burden on their mental health and also on their health as well over the last year or so.
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And I think in regards to COVID-19, it's going to create a greater discussion about what is needed to be put in place to be resourceful for physicians. We work so many hours. We invest so much time, money, and effort to become attending physicians, to get into residency, to even get into medical school.
00:27:38
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What I think is gonna come is the evolution, right? Of the fact that it's okay to be vulnerable and be transparent and talk to someone and be able to communicate that. Because all the time in medicine, the experiences that we experience, even for myself, when I was on rotation, I had several experiences where I was like, yo, this, I ain't feeling right, you know, like homeboy trying to get at me. You know what I mean? Like there's a way.
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that we got to learn to communicate. Now, that's not a significant, you know what I'm saying, experience, but I'm just saying that to say, like, especially during this pandemic, you see a lot of these issues that are arising from the whole spectrum for us. And I think that we got to take the time to understand and acknowledge that we're all experiencing mental health issues. And I think every medical student should go to therapy. I think every resident should go to therapy. Absolutely. Every attorney should go to therapy, you know? Right.
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that will help us create a very safe space and create a more positive atmosphere so that we're working more efficiently, not just working for ourselves, but working for the patients that we hope to treat. Right. I agree.
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Everybody seek therapy, especially now. We need it now more than ever. And we honestly have no idea when things are going to go back to normal or what the new normal will look like. Everybody's been affected in so many ways. I think I can say this for the three of us. We here at the lounge support mental health 100.
Therapy as a Solution for Healthcare Workers
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So by all means.
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If you need somebody to talk, holla at me too. Like I love talking to people. That's one of my things. Like Erica said, mental health is my space. And I think even if it's not me, I think anybody that's listening, please take, if you have any resources to kind of engage in that mental health space, please take the advantage of it because it will benefit you. I went to a therapy session two weeks ago and we were talking about things from COVID-19 to heartbreak in 2020 to all these kinds of issues.
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I just feel like relieved just from that one conversation that was 40 minutes, you know, and therapy that you can undergo. So please reach out to your medical school, your institution, and take advantage of that. It doesn't matter where you are along your journey. Absolutely. Well, guess what?
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What? What's going on? Now, I'm excited. First of all, I love y'all. Second of all, next month, not only do we get to talk about love a little bit, but it's Black History Month.
Looking Forward to Black History Month Episode
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OK. It's been a long time coming. I needed this. I needed that Black History Month. Look at me, Black, Black, Black. Kente, everything.
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But no, honestly, I'm excited about our next episode because we get to discuss our history, number one, but then also an issue that I think is near and dear to a number of our hearts, Black maternal health. Right. That's going to be important. And speaking about Black History Month today,
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a legend died, Hank Aaron, one of the greatest, who set a standard for more black men to enter into the game of baseball. He was the leading home run hitter for over several decades, and he passed Babe Roo
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in the early 70s to do that. So, you know, he's accomplished amazing things. He has a whole bunch of avenues named after him in Atlanta. He had the baseball stadium named after him and then he got a stadium in Mobile, Alabama as well named after him. So, and very well part of the civil rights movement as well. So shout out rest in peace to Hank Aaron and we appreciate what you've done. And he's also, he also actually donated, I believe a million or $2 million to the Morehouse School of Medicine
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So that we're ever going to push through to so many physicians. Yeah, we're losing a lot of great. So if this doesn't encourage you to step up as people, as A people, like get in where you fit in, step up. Period. Yeah, guys, I'm looking forward to that episode, but yeah, it's been a great run the list and it's always great chatting it up with you guys. Absolutely.
00:31:59
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So first episode of 2021 in the books. Thanks so much for joining us for this episode of The Lounge. Let us know your thoughts about the discussions we had today by emailing us at podcast at snma.org.
00:32:16
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Be sure to follow the SNMA on social media to stay up to date on upcoming events like the National Leadership Institute, which actually starts today, right? Yeah, start today. Yep. And this year's theme is advocacy and action, finding your voice through SNMA leadership. So come out, sign up, hear about more on advocacy. I think they also give talks about
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things pertaining to SNMA leadership and tying that in, elections packets are due January 29th. So if you're interested in SNMA leadership, go ahead.
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to the website, I guess, and get your packet. And that's it. Thank you all for joining us for our first episode of The Lounge 2021. We wish you, again, a productive, positive, peaceful, and inspiring year. Thank you all for tuning in.
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Bye!