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S1-E71 : Wildcard Wednesday! One Must Go!

S1 E71 · Daily Arsenal
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On this edition of the Daily Arsenal's Wildcard Wednesday, Josh challenges Jamie to a horrible game! One must Go! Josh reads out 3 elite players from football history, and Jamie must pick one to delete from Football! Follow along as both Josh and Jamie genuinely squirm and share wonderful anecdotes of their footballing stories!

Host : Josh Vince

Guest : Jamie Patterson

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Introduction to the Wildcard Episode

00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello, one and all, and welcome to the Daily Arsenal Podcast, brought to you as part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. It is Wednesday, which means it's time for a wildcard episode where we throw caution to the wind, and here to join me to throw said caution to said wind is the one and only, wonderful Jamie Patterson.
00:00:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jamie, how are you doing, my man? We haven't caught up since the weekend. Did you did you enjoy the result?
00:00:34
Jamie
I know. Oh, just loved it. Absolutely. I just loved it. It was just, you know, the thing is we were all really apprehensive and it was like, Oh.
00:00:45
Jamie
didn't even need to worry.

Discussing Arsenal's Match and Player Updates

00:00:46
Jamie
Big up, Ethan Wanyeri. Can we just big him up for a sec? Because wow, what a talent we have in Wanyeri. And you know what, right? Credit due to Sterling as well, because I mean, I know we've not seen much of him, but you know, it was nice to see him assist. I'd maybe, I'd like to hope that maybe somewhere, you know, it might give him a bit more of a confidence boost.
00:01:11
Jamie
Quickly, before we do continue, Kieran Tierney.
00:01:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
back in training.
00:01:15
Jamie
How refreshing is it to see him on the plane to sporting?
00:01:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
i You know, it's really interesting. I had Matt on ah yesterday recording with me on today's episode, which just dropped.
00:01:26
Jamie
Yeah.
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we were sort of talking about the left back situation and thought, you know what, Kieran Tierney, it would actually be quite, he would have been really helpful earlier this season, because just a solid left back option.
00:01:36
Jamie
Yeah. Absolutely.
00:01:41
Jamie
Yeah.
00:01:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Um, so it's, it's really good to see him back. And I hope we get to see him a little bit to be honest,

Reflections on Recent Matches and Standings

00:01:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
because I, I like him as a player.
00:01:46
Jamie
same yeah course you know what right the thing is right we all hate Tottenham we all hate Tottenham but yet
00:01:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
And after watching the all and nothing documentary, I really liked him as a dude too. Um, the, but what I do want to ask you, Jay, before we get onto to the main crux of the episode, um, what made you happier?
00:01:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Arsenal beating forestry and nil or city losing four nil at home.
00:02:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
We do,
00:02:15
Jamie
It was just, it was odd. It was just so odd because they could lose to palace. They can lose to Ipswich. And yet they can go and beat city.
00:02:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
They can do us a solid by beating City, which means we're only one point behind them now. Yeah, we're nine points behind Liverpool, but we won't bother discussing that. That's fine, but...
00:02:34
Jamie
I mean, look, listen, next weekend, next weekend is huge, by the way.
00:02:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Massive,

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Centre Backs

00:02:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
massive.
00:02:39
Jamie
Absolutely huge. Now, now my question for you quickly before we move on is.
00:02:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:46
Jamie
Who, what is the perfect outcome for you by the end of next weekend?
00:02:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
No one else.
00:02:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
the most boring 0-0, and I never wish Ill on any player, but where Harland and Salah accidentally get injured for the rest of the season as well.
00:02:58
Jamie
Yeah.
00:02:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
No one
00:03:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
That would be absolutely over the moon. We cost Julian Lopatega his job, and they draw 0-0, and we overtake City by a couple of points, and we start to bridge that gap towards them.
00:03:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
else.
00:03:13
Jamie
Yeah.
00:03:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's my ideal situation.
00:03:20
Jamie
Yeah.
00:03:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I mean, we talked a lot about this week's football. This is wildcard. We're here to do something different. And today we're playing a little game. The game is one has to go.
00:03:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I have prepared a number of groups of players. Each group has three players in it. They are elite players who all play in a similar position.
00:03:38
Jamie
Oh.
00:03:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it is Jamie's job. to decide which of these players he would delete from footballing history. So not just which of the best two, he has to remove this player from the collective conscious of football.
00:03:50
Jamie
Wow.
00:03:54
Jamie
This feels like a, this feels like a previous episode of a wildcard Wednesday where it was like me, Edmond, and I think Josh and like, and JD, and we were just, oh my gosh. Right.
00:04:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:03
Jamie
Here we go.
00:04:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
so yeah
00:04:04
Jamie
Here we go. Let's see if I can redeem myself from the last. Of course.
00:04:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
you're going to have to be brutal to some absolute heroes.

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Arsenal Keepers

00:04:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the first grouping, thankfully the first grouping doesn't have any Arsenal players in, so you can't feel too upset about it.
00:04:13
Jamie
Oh, phew. Okay.
00:04:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're looking at centre backs. Which centre back would you delete from history?
00:04:22
Jamie
okay
00:04:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
John Terry, Rio Ferdinand, and Virgil van Dyck.
00:04:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
One of them has to go. The memory of them, their historic career, has to go.
00:04:36
Jamie
okay wow wow what a way to kick off the show wow um the thing is right van dyke i mean i watched him at celtic
00:04:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:49
Jamie
and you know thought he was oh he was absolutely amazing went to Southampton did his thing and now he's still great like him and Canate together are like similar pairing to like Saliba and Gabrielle for example um John Terry on the other hand I mean again you kind of again you know so he's built up such a pedigree at Chelsea
00:05:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, they're very, very good. One of the best centre backs ever in the Premier League.
00:05:15
Jamie
And again, the same goes for Rio Ferdinand. You know, there's one many Premier League titles with United. Oh, ah wow.
00:05:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But who would you delete from history, Jamie?
00:05:27
Jamie
Delete from history.
00:05:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know my one.
00:05:30
Jamie
I think for me, you know what? This is going to call me crazy for it, but I'm going to go for John Terry.
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:05:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
John Terry, do you know what? I was very tempted by John Terry, mainly because he's a bit of a wrong-in.
00:05:45
Jamie
Ooh, who'd she pick?
00:05:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think we can all agree.
00:05:50
Jamie
Of course.
00:05:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
But just because recently on Co-comps he's been really irritating, I delete Rio Ferdinand.
00:05:57
Jamie
oh Ah!
00:05:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he's been doing my nut in recently and his podcast is shocking.
00:06:02
Jamie
Fair play.
00:06:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just like Rio, I'm sorry, but Rio has to go for me.
00:06:04
Jamie
Fair play.
00:06:06
Jamie
Fair play.
00:06:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah This next trio is more, it's more entertaining for me.
00:06:07
Jamie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think it's gonna be hard for you to pick which one you would delete from history. These are three Arsenal players this time.
00:06:19
Jamie
Okay.
00:06:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who would you delete from history? Almunia Fabianski or Monone?
00:06:27
Jamie
Jeez almighty. Wow.
00:06:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
then you can't say all three.
00:06:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
It can only be one.
00:06:32
Jamie
Oh man.
00:06:34
Jamie
Damn it. Oh, you've read my mind. I was going to say all three.
00:06:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's like, it's like Highlander.
00:06:37
Jamie
ah Oh my gosh.
00:06:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
There can only be one.
00:06:41
Jamie
Do you know what? It's between It's got to be between Almunia and Monone.
00:06:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Almonia.
00:06:50
Jamie
It's got to be between Almunia or Monone.
00:06:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh-huh.
00:06:53
Jamie
And the thing is right, you look at Fabiansky, and I'm sorry, right? If it weren't for Fabiansky, listen, we may not have had an FA Cup, you know? So I have to give him his credit where it's due.
00:07:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very true. Very true.
00:07:02
Jamie
ah But I think for me, I would probably go, ooh.
00:07:08
Jamie
oh fun oh Almunia did really annoy me but Manone was just not there. I think, you know what, I think it's gotta be Manone for me.
00:07:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I agree that it's Manone, but I can't believe you even considered Al Mounia, not because of his arsenal career, but because of that Watford moment.
00:07:19
Jamie
It's not safe.
00:07:26
Jamie
No.
00:07:29
Jamie
Ah.
00:07:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
and that in that championship semi-final playoff where he saved the penalty, saved the rebound and sent them on their way to get the winner.
00:07:32
Jamie
Yep.
00:07:36
Jamie
That's it.
00:07:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I still watch that and get chills, that clip.
00:07:40
Jamie
Do you know, yeah, is that same here? Same here. I still, ah you know, the commentary and... Oh, day name!
00:07:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just him, like, fighting with the fans, just going absolutely mental.
00:07:52
Jamie
That's it. Yeah.
00:07:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, it's it's a beautiful moment. So, yeah, that was that was a slightly more humorous one to wet our whistle.
00:07:56
Jamie
Iconic.
00:08:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is the classic. So this is the classic trio.

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Midfield Legends

00:08:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But remember, you're not picking your favorite, you're picking the one who you get rid of from history, Gerard Lampard's goals.
00:08:08
Jamie
Yeah.
00:08:13
Jamie
Oh.
00:08:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, the thing is, as much as none of them played for Arsenal.
00:08:18
Jamie
Yeah.
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I loved watching all of them.
00:08:20
Jamie
Yeah.
00:08:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
So picking one to delete is quite difficult.
00:08:26
Jamie
Is. It is. The thing is, oh, Gerard, he was so well known for his long, his famous, you know, far out long distance strikes.
00:08:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
They are beautiful, weren't they?
00:08:40
Jamie
You know, they were beautiful. Steve, Gerard, Gerard.
00:08:49
Jamie
That's all I ever, whenever someone speaks of Gerard, I just think of that.
00:08:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
a
00:08:53
Jamie
I literally think of Steve, I literally think of that, John. um
00:08:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I personally I think of him slipping but yeah
00:09:00
Jamie
Yeah, that's so iconic. So, so iconic. um Wow. Ah, that is, but then you got Skolzy as well.
00:09:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, Gerard, Liverpool's captain for years, Lampard, Chelsea's at one point top goalscorer, and Sculls, one of the most beautiful magicians on a football.
00:09:18
Jamie
Yeah.
00:09:22
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:09:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you've got to get rid of one of them, Jamie!
00:09:25
Jamie
I think, you know what, this is close, but I'm like saying by like, like the littlest of fractions, I'd probably, I'd probably go skulls. I'm sorry, but just.
00:09:40
Jamie
lamppo Lampard, record was amazing and the thing is right, I just, oh guys, if you could see Josh Vince's face at the minute, if you could see his face, he's in utter utter disbelief that I've gone and said that.
00:09:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I am rather. Lampard.
00:09:56
Jamie
Who would you have gone for?
00:09:58
Jamie
Really?
00:09:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, Lampard. I think it's quite an easy one.
00:10:03
Jamie
I don't know.
00:10:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know. I don't know what it is about. I think because I always preferred Gerard.
00:10:09
Jamie
Yeah.
00:10:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I always looked down on Lampard a little bit more. And yes, he was a brilliant volume goalscorer and he did great things for Chelsea.
00:10:14
Jamie
Yes. Hmm.
00:10:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
However, the way that I think Gerard led that Liverpool team was so much more vital than Lampard, because you at Chelsea you had the whole hierarchy of Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Czech, you had the whole group.
00:10:23
Jamie
yeah
00:10:28
Jamie
Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, you you kind of look back to that one game in the Premier League where he was like, where he was there saying like, he kind of got everyone in and you could see the emotion and the passion ah for Liverpool to go and win the title.
00:10:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:10:41
Jamie
And I mean, it unfortunately it wasn't enough, but.
00:10:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, i mean ah jar Gerard was an icon and also like that quick red card. as There's so many moments that I look at with Gerard when he got a red card after five seconds of being on the pitch.
00:10:49
Jamie
Yeah.
00:10:53
Jamie
That's it.
00:10:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
The single handed turnaround of a Champions League final, you know, that sort of thing.
00:10:53
Jamie
Yeah.
00:10:58
Jamie
Hmm.
00:10:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then I think of Paul Sculls and just his Manchester United record, the amount that he won with that team.
00:11:04
Jamie
Yeah.
00:11:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I don't think I've ever seen a better passer of the ball than Paul Sculls.
00:11:07
Jamie
Yeah.
00:11:13
Jamie
Honestly, I completely agree with you on that. I mean, skulls was
00:11:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
So why don't you get rid of him, Jamie?
00:11:18
Jamie
I know, but the thing is, I just, for me, Frank Lampard, for me growing up, you know, I was, you know, I remember having him on the back of an England shirt in 2010. And I mean, but the thing is though, when I was in Sports Direct, Sports Direct, you're going to be held accountable for this.
00:11:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Traitor.
00:11:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, I was.
00:11:35
Jamie
um When I went in, I was like, I want, I want Walcott. I actually wanted Walcott. And at the time there was no, like, you couldn't personalise an England shirt and it was like Rooney.
00:11:46
Jamie
ah Lampard and all this, that and the other and i and the only shirts that were left in Sports Direct were Lampard's.
00:11:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah oh that's actually one of the saddest stories i've heard on this podcast so far that you were stuck with a lampard shirt oh bro uh okay but i mean in that sense lampard is ah he's closely tied to your childhood so i can't i guess i can't take him away from you you
00:12:01
Jamie
yeah
00:12:05
Jamie
oh
00:12:13
Jamie
yeah
00:12:17
Jamie
but
00:12:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah I mean, you're still wrong, but I won't take it away from you. Okay, well, that's the first three. We're going to take a little break now here from our partners at ZenKestle. When we come back, we've got two more, and we're going to look at more midfielders, and i think I think the first one is going to be brutal. So ah stay tuned. We'll be back just after this break.
00:13:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
And welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. We're recording this on Monday night at about quarter past eight. Jamie, are you by chance watching the Newcastle West Ham game at the same time?
00:13:18
Jamie
Yes, I am, and I'm really heavily relying on Isaac to pull through.
00:13:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Good.
00:13:24
Jamie
West Ham are 1-0 up already as we speak, and ah, yeah, they're 1-0 up.
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Really? Wow, that is a bit of a surprise.
00:13:30
Jamie
Corner whipped in. Oh, it's wide, yeah, okay. Please, Isaac.
00:13:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm assuming this is in aid of your fantasy football team.
00:13:37
Jamie
Oh, of course, I've had a good weekend so far.
00:13:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I haven't actually looked at mine, but we'll let'll tell you what, we'll give the ah we'll give the listeners an update on that at the end. We'll get our scores up.
00:13:45
Jamie
Yes, definitely.
00:13:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah We'll have a quick look. But um we got to go back to the game.
00:13:48
Jamie
Yes.
00:13:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I am going to give you what I think is the hardest grouping of all.
00:13:53
Jamie
Oh no.
00:13:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Three players, one you have to delete from history. These are all Arsenal players.
00:14:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cesc Fabregas.
00:14:04
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Santi Kirthala.
00:14:05
Jamie
Oh no.
00:14:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Martin Erdegard.
00:14:08
Jamie
No, I knew he was going to say that.
00:14:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
three of our most beloved, most technically gifted midfielders of our generation at the very least. Jamie, you have to delete one of them from the collective memory of Arsenal Football Club.
00:14:25
Jamie
this this This could take a while people.
00:14:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
This one could take a while.
00:14:27
Jamie
This this could really take a while because the thing is right, you've got a fully fit Martin Odegard who is just unreal and just adds so much to Arsenal's midfield.
00:14:41
Jamie
Then you've got, I'll talk about Kozolo in a minute because I mean
00:14:48
Jamie
wow and Fabregas I mean just what a player especially at the age we you know the age that we had him at was probably the best years he had um in his footballing career in my opinion and the thing is right he was very nimble
00:15:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, yeah.
00:15:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:15:06
Jamie
that, you know, I really liked Fabregas. You know, I never forget that goal in the North London Derby, where he just was dropping shoulders and just scored within like the space of seconds.
00:15:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
love yeah
00:15:20
Jamie
are Just amazing. What an amazing player. And Cozola, he's our, you know, he's our little, you know, he's the little magician.
00:15:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Santika, Santika Zola for, for this podcast, Santika Zola is like our little love language.
00:15:32
Jamie
Yeah, he actually is.
00:15:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
When, when we did the meet, when we did the meet the team podcast, the majority of people who said their favorite player was Santika Zola, because I ah watching him
00:15:34
Jamie
He honestly is.
00:15:39
Jamie
Yeah. Santi Cozola. and
00:15:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
it I know they called David Silver a magician.
00:15:48
Jamie
Didn't... Yeah.
00:15:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cazola was the magician before David Silver.
00:15:51
Jamie
He was. He really was.
00:15:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was just blighted so badly by injury.
00:15:56
Jamie
Unfortunately, injury plagued his career. And do you know what still hurts to this day, right?
00:15:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
e
00:16:01
Jamie
Is the fact that he, you know, he never got a proper goodbye.
00:16:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, and he loved Arsenal.
00:16:06
Jamie
he loved you know he if you If you were to look up in the dictionary and and look up Die Hard, he would be the definition of Die Hard. He loved Arsenal with a passion.
00:16:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, for goodness sake, he was told he wouldn't be able to walk again.
00:16:22
Jamie
Yes.
00:16:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he so he kept playing football. And he never he never wanted to leave the club.
00:16:25
Jamie
That's it.
00:16:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I'll be honest, I never wanted him to leave either.
00:16:28
Jamie
Nope.
00:16:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
And when I look at the other two, Erdogan, I think is just such an elegant footballer.
00:16:35
Jamie
He is.
00:16:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's the way that he sees the game. And I remember when he was 16, when Madrid bought him, you remember that sort of the fanfare that went around it.
00:16:41
Jamie
Yeah, mm-hmm.
00:16:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I was thinking, oh, they got they're they're just being ah just being hoarders on Madrid at the moment.
00:16:48
Jamie
Yeah.
00:16:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're just keeping players and they really don't need to be doing that. But Fabregas, I loved him back in the day. I don't know why, but the memory of him for me is not as strong as it is for the other two.
00:17:05
Jamie
Do you know what? I'm glad, I'm glad you kind of said that because I'm also in that boat and also you got to remember he did have a spell at Chelsea.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
He did have a spell of Chelsea.
00:17:14
Jamie
Fortunately left us to go to Barcelona. Yeah, it's.
00:17:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
If he'd gone straight from us to Chelsea, I probably wouldn't have even put him in this list because he'd be pretty dead to us.
00:17:25
Jamie
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think the fact that he went to Barcelona made himself better in Barcelona and then went to Chelsea.
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
i
00:17:31
Jamie
I kind of was a bit like.
00:17:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's a Catalan kid, isn't he? like Barcelona was his team growing up, and he was in the Barcelona youth.
00:17:37
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
It made sense for him to go there.
00:17:40
Jamie
Yeah, absolutely.
00:17:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, I didn't hate him for it.
00:17:43
Jamie
No.
00:17:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, obviously, Erdegaard's only been with us for a few years. He hasn't left yet, and he doesn't look like he wants to leave.
00:17:47
Jamie
Yeah. No.

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Midfield Maestros

00:17:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Cozola, if he had the option, I am adamant, never would have.
00:17:54
Jamie
Do you know what, I think he could have played, I think he probably, him it oh, could you imagine him and Odegard in a mid? Declan Rice.
00:18:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, all that made me go all tingly.
00:18:02
Jamie
Declan Rice.
00:18:05
Jamie
Oh,
00:18:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
just ah It's the way that he would manipulate the book. It stuck to him like Velcro.
00:18:12
Jamie
oh there you go.
00:18:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Honestly.
00:18:14
Jamie
Kind of said it better.
00:18:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
So my player that I'm going to delete from history is Cesc Fabrias, which feels so dirty.
00:18:20
Jamie
That pains me to say it, but I agree. I agree. It pains me to say it, but I agree.
00:18:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, well the the next the next section, or the next three, is again looking in central midfield, but looking more at sort of like the holders and and the tough men. One of them is one of ours.
00:18:37
Jamie
Yeah. Okay.

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Iconic Rivals

00:18:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
We have Patrick Vieira, Yaya Torre, and Roy Keane.
00:18:45
Jamie
the
00:18:48
Jamie
o
00:18:50
Jamie
Wow.
00:18:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, bear in mind, if you delete Kean from history, you also delete all of his amazing moments as a pundit.
00:18:59
Jamie
That's Oh God. and You know what? Don't even get me started on yesterday. I don't know if you saw yesterday's leaked, foot like this footage of Keene saying, of this guy saying to Keene like, I'll meet you in the car park.
00:19:14
Jamie
I'll meet you in the, I don't know if you.
00:19:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
What?
00:19:16
Jamie
Yeah.
00:19:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
What, someone wanted to start on it?
00:19:18
Jamie
Yeah.
00:19:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do they know who they're talking to?
00:19:20
Jamie
No idea. No idea. But I just sat there and I just thought, Oh my gosh. Like why? Why?
00:19:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, you wouldn't want to mess with any of those three.
00:19:32
Jamie
No, absolutely not. And the thing is right, oh, Vieira, Vieira is just, oh my gosh.
00:19:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was a terrifying player. Like he he was our king, but my word was he a scary player.
00:19:43
Jamie
ah ah Yeah.
00:19:48
Jamie
Yeah, the the thing is, and you know what, I've actually had the privilege of meeting Vieira.
00:19:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
What?
00:19:55
Jamie
I've got a photo.
00:19:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
What, how have we got to 71 episodes in and we've only just heard you've met Patrick Vieira?
00:20:01
Jamie
ah I've been very lucky to, well, basically it was thanks to being at a palace game that I got a photo with Vieira.
00:20:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, right, okay. What were they managing?
00:20:11
Jamie
When he was managing, yeah.
00:20:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
May, what on earth?
00:20:14
Jamie
Do you know what?
00:20:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
but The best I've got is that I served Jake Humphrey's drinks at the National Television Awards.
00:20:15
Jamie
I'll even dig up the photo, I'll even dig up the photo actually.
00:20:21
Jamie
No way, that is unreal.
00:20:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, it gets better. I'd done my leg in so I was in the VIP bar room.
00:20:28
Jamie
Yeah.
00:20:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And um it was like it was the National Television Awards on ITV and their TVs on either side.
00:20:33
Jamie
Oh, no way.
00:20:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And they were shut and they were showing the National Television Awards.
00:20:36
Jamie
Yeah.
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it was the night of was the night of the Liverpool Spurs Champions League final.
00:20:39
Jamie
Oh,
00:20:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so he asked me if I could get ITV to change it up and they did. They put the Champions League on, no one was coming to the bar. So I stood next to Jake Humphries, the guy who played Mr Fantastic in the early 2000s films, the Welsh guy, and who's the one who did DIY SOS?
00:20:57
Jamie
yeah
00:21:02
Jamie
oh
00:21:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
this
00:21:02
Jamie
Nicky Will or something.
00:21:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Nick Knowles. Nick Knowles.
00:21:04
Jamie
Nick Knowles. Nick Knowles, yeah.
00:21:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
So Mr Fantastic, Jake Humphries and Nick Knowles stood around me while we watched the Champions League final.
00:21:09
Jamie
Unreal.
00:21:12
Jamie
By the way, I've just found the photo and this, look at that.
00:21:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on then. Oh I hate you so much. um like for For listeners, obviously, ah Jamie is tucked up in the warmest coat that I think I've ever seen.
00:21:25
Jamie
ah tough
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
And just over his ah right shoulder is the... What would you call the expression that he's pulling on his face there? Patrick's face.
00:21:35
Jamie
I see that as a smile.
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
A smile. Patrick smiling in the background.
00:21:38
Jamie
I see that as a smile.
00:21:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's an incredible picture, man. That's an incredible picture.
00:21:41
Jamie
That that picture lived with me forever.
00:21:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah It should be framed on your wall.
00:21:45
Jamie
It should be, yeah.
00:21:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
It should be your wallpaper. Just it replicated constantly.
00:21:48
Jamie
It's literally, it's funny, right? Cause me me and my mate, my mate was like, uncle, uncle, uncle Pat, uncle Pat.
00:21:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to spit my water out.
00:22:01
Jamie
But yeah, honestly, ah what of what a player Patrick Vieira was.
00:22:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh my word.
00:22:06
Jamie
You know, good on him, good on him, good on him actually, because he's also managing now, I believe.
00:22:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, where is he these days?
00:22:13
Jamie
ah
00:22:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll have a look at that and go back.
00:22:14
Jamie
Genoa, I believe.
00:22:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, is it his Genoa? Oh, sound.
00:22:16
Jamie
Genoa.
00:22:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, good to him. So I'm guess so i'm guessing you're not deleting him from those three.
00:22:18
Jamie
So yeah.
00:22:21
Jamie
No way. No. Because then I'd probably, then I'd, you know, then that picture probably wouldn't be.
00:22:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
roy That picture would be odd.
00:22:27
Jamie
Yeah, would be.
00:22:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
It would be you grinning with the happiest grin ever next to some grass.
00:22:31
Jamie
Yeah. There you go.
00:22:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:22:34
Jamie
There you go.
00:22:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thanos and Avengers just dust his memory on that picture.
00:22:38
Jamie
That's it. Going to the other two players, it's also not easy because, again, Yaya Toure was quality.
00:22:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was quality, yeah.
00:22:45
Jamie
Quality. And who was the other player again?
00:22:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Roy Keane.
00:22:48
Jamie
You can't forget Keenan. Keenan Vieira. Do you know what I mean?
00:22:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, i I think it's got to be Tori, despite how, and he was phenomenal.
00:22:57
Jamie
Yeah.
00:23:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's no getting away from it.
00:23:00
Jamie
Do you know what I really liked about Yoyo Toure was his involvement in the box, the fact that he could score goals as well.
00:23:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:07
Jamie
Like he was unreal and you know, fair play. Yoyo Toure, what a play. I mean, I'd have given anything for Kolo to have said, hey brother, man, come join me at Arsenal.
00:23:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Now that would have been absolutely banging.
00:23:18
Jamie
ah
00:23:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
The two toures for Arsenal would have been incredible.
00:23:23
Jamie
Oh mate, could you imagine the
00:23:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
all at all calla cola oh ah job yeah
00:23:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah That would have been min that would have been absolutely brilliant But I mean for me it has to be ya ya that I delete from that three Unfortunately as much as we would have loved to have sung his name alongside his brothers It just can't be done.
00:23:33
Jamie
big quality
00:23:37
Jamie
golo, g
00:23:42
Jamie
yes
00:23:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we're gonna take a little break now our last break and when we come back I have two more and one of them is really painful and I'm looking forward to seeing what you're gonna say because Actually, I'm gonna change it slightly make it harder, but we're gonna be we'll be back just after this break
00:23:43
Jamie
no
00:24:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
And welcome back to the final part of our Wild Card Wednesday, which has been part playing the game of One Has To Go, but also part nostalgic stories about mental stuff that's happened to myself and Jamie regarding football.
00:24:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But we're going to focus on this on the game right now. um Three strikers for you now, all of them absolute giants in their heyday.
00:25:00
Jamie
Do you know what? there's There's one name I know you're going to bring. There's one name I know you're going to bring.
00:25:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay.

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Prolific Strikers

00:25:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, let's see what you say then.
00:25:06
Jamie
So
00:25:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Didier Drogba. Alan Shearer.
00:25:12
Jamie
ah ye
00:25:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Luis Suarez.
00:25:15
Jamie
Oh, good, good shouts. I mean, Drogba, you watched him ah play against Arsenal. He loves scoring against Arsenal.
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
He did.
00:25:26
Jamie
He was one frustrating player, but yet so, so talented, so skilled. I mean, you know, you look back at his, you know, you look back on his career and you know, the Champions League final, the iconic celebrations, you know, Drogba,
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
That game, that Champions League final game, I ah it didn't, obviously um I watched it and it's probably the first time I supported an English team other than Arsenal to win it.
00:25:47
Jamie
Yeah.
00:25:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that moment when he gets that header and then he puts the winning penalty away, I don't think I've seen a more influential performance in the final apart from Gerrard, honestly.
00:26:02
Jamie
Yeah. Yeah. Spot on. Spot on. And then, yeah, so you've got drug bar and then who are the other two again?
00:26:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Shira. Shira and Suarez.
00:26:14
Jamie
Shira, I mean, just he his record just speaks for itself, doesn't it?
00:26:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. It does.
00:26:21
Jamie
The record just speaks for itself.
00:26:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
He still has it. He's still the top Premier League goalscorer.
00:26:24
Jamie
Still exactly, exactly that.
00:26:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
One of the most naturally gifted finishes I think the game has ever given us.
00:26:31
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:26:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then Luis Suarez, a problematic player, but my goodness me could he score goals.
00:26:35
Jamie
Yeah.
00:26:39
Jamie
Yeah he could score goals but he could also just produce them out of the unordinary as well so like was it the game against Norwich?
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Norwich, yeah, where he scored three worldies.
00:26:51
Jamie
Yeah there you go.
00:26:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was a brilliant footballer, but obviously a bit of a biter and a bit of a racist.
00:27:00
Jamie
Well think the thing is right I was going to say I just don't think Liverpool fed him enough unfortunately and I don't
00:27:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
So really when you put it like that...
00:27:07
Jamie
Like, I don't know if like, I don't know, like, listen, listen, you know, look, I get it as footballers, you know, you know, they've got to stick to their diets and look, you know, Suarez just wanted to be a bit more different.
00:27:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
He found a fancied a nibble on three separate occasions and got his comeuppance Keelini and it happened when he was playing in Portugal I think as well possibly yeah I mean you are a brave man if you bite Ivanovitch or Keelini Keelini as a face of absolute thunder at all times ah it His look could kill you
00:27:26
Jamie
Ivanovic, Keilini. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, something like that.
00:27:37
Jamie
jeez almighty yeah yeah absolutely absolutely but going to this you know what i'll probably uh i think for me it's got to be suarez it's just
00:27:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm the same on this one.
00:27:55
Jamie
the you know unfortunately he didn't build uh his reputation kind of like decreased a little bit and that's what kind of just made me think oh man if if you didn't buy it and you and we didn't have all this interference with racism and whatnot then cool you know
00:28:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. But he did, he did sour himself ultimately.
00:28:15
Jamie
He did, unfortunately. Such a talented footballer, amazing footballer, you know, had everything, but, you know, unfortunately, off the pitch and even on the pitch, it just, you know, that's what kind of just ruined his career a bit.
00:28:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:28:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you think about and MLS as well, like the the combination that he had with those two is incredible.
00:28:33
Jamie
Gosh, yeah. Yep.
00:28:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
um This last one, Jamie, I've edited it slightly and it could be emotionally devastating.
00:28:39
Jamie
Uh-oh.
00:28:43
Jamie
Oh no.

Hypothetical Football Deletions: Legendary Forwards

00:28:45
Jamie
I don't even have my snood on. ah
00:28:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Three players, one of them you have to delete from history.
00:28:50
Jamie
No.
00:28:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thierry Omri.
00:28:52
Jamie
No. I knew this. I knew everybody was going to be brought up.
00:28:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
The Caius Saka.
00:28:58
Jamie
Oh no.
00:29:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Lionel Messi.
00:29:01
Jamie
Oh no. No. No.
00:29:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was Cristiano Ronaldo, but I thought I'd change it to Messi because I think he's more influential.
00:29:06
Jamie
No.
00:29:10
Jamie
Oh no. I love they see.
00:29:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah hu
00:29:13
Jamie
He's like my, he's my go. This is my go. Henri's my go.
00:29:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Are you going to delete Saka?
00:29:18
Jamie
And Saka's my star boy.
00:29:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is that what you're saying, Jamie?
00:29:22
Jamie
na na No, no, no, no, no. No, can we just keep all free? mean We just keep all free.
00:29:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And now mate, no, you don't get to delete Rory Dallap instead.
00:29:27
Jamie
We'll delete, we'll delete someone else. We'll delete someone else. Who can we delete? Oh yeah, there you go.
00:29:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's one of these three.
00:29:36
Jamie
There you go. There you go. See? Oh, oh is that the time? Oh, we've got to end there.
00:29:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah This has been a great episode. James Coppin out everybody, but we'll go back tomorrow.
00:29:46
Jamie
ha
00:29:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Henri, Henri, Arsenal legend, Saka becoming an Arsenal legend. messy arguably the greatest of all time I have picked it's changed like three times since I asked the question Omri
00:29:57
Jamie
I know. Oh, no. I bet you can't even pick neither.
00:30:07
Jamie
Oh my gosh, no, he hasn't. That's that that the smirk says it all. No, no. Who have you picked?
00:30:20
Jamie
Who was the first, all right, what was your first thought?
00:30:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
My first thought was honoree because I remember the day he left to go to Barcelona. And it was it was my first heartbreak, Jamie. I was never so hurt by a player.
00:30:37
Jamie
you know what? I didn't want to bring about, I didn't want to bring that up to be fair. Wow.
00:30:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
But then I thought, Lionel Messi, I've got to be loyal to my boys. But then you think everything that Messi has done in the game
00:30:52
Jamie
Yeah.
00:30:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
just disappears and that also means it honestly as a world cup final it was one of the best games of football I'd ever watched
00:30:54
Jamie
Think about the World Cup. Think about that World Cup game. Everyone said, every football fan out there said it was the best game in the world.
00:31:10
Jamie
Yeah.
00:31:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I was working in a pub, um I was the only person working in a pub and we were full. But after a while, I just said to everybody, you're not getting served anymore. I'm watching the game.
00:31:19
Jamie
Yeah.
00:31:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we all watched it together.
00:31:21
Jamie
Yeah.
00:31:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it was incredible, absolutely incredible.
00:31:23
Jamie
It was honestly spectacular. I mean, I don't think, you know, apart from the, ah gu apart from like Aguero scoring that last minute winner against QPR, we've never, you know, we've never seen anything as iconic as that World Cup final or before, but wow.
00:31:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:42
Jamie
Um, who are you going for as your final pick, Henri?
00:31:49
Jamie
Oh, he's, he's, he's contemplating. He's really contemplating. I don't blame you.
00:31:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to delete Saka. I'm going to delete Saka simply because of nostalgia and what Messi has done for the game and what Omri did for my childhood.
00:32:02
Jamie
Don't blame you. Yeah.
00:32:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
What about you Jamie? This is the most unpleasant question I've ever asked a human being by the way. i
00:32:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I've done some terrible things in my life, but this is the worst thing I've ever done.
00:32:22
Jamie
um Aww, I think... Aww, do you know what? I think I've got
00:32:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Part of me is loving this response. I just want to put it out there.
00:32:53
Jamie
No! No! The mural in Highbury! No, I can't get rid of that mural. No! No! No!
00:33:04
Jamie
No!
00:33:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
it
00:33:04
Jamie
Ah, no!
00:33:09
Jamie
Suck, I'm sorry. I love you, Sucker, but I'm sorry.
00:33:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Even with the mural he's got him in a sack of...
00:33:14
Jamie
I'm so sorry.
00:33:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
No way!
00:33:16
Jamie
Oh, that's pain. That's pain without the S.
00:33:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jamie, that... Jamie, that was a journey and a pleasure to watch.
00:33:22
Jamie
Oh.
00:33:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you so much.
00:33:27
Jamie
Saka, if you're listening, we love you very much. We love you very much. You've you've got to prove us wrong. You've got to prove us wrong. Get a statue outside the Emirates.
00:33:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:33:36
Jamie
Break records, stay at Arsenal, be a one man, be a one man ban, and and that's it. Just win a Premier League title with Arsenal, and that's it.
00:33:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's right, Bakaya. If you're listening, we love you very much, but Jamie's gonna delete you from history.
00:33:48
Jamie
Sorry Josh. Sorry Josh. Nice try rubbing your side in my wounds but some of you as well mate.
00:33:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jamie, I'm doing the edit. I'm cutting my answer out.
00:34:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
this is This is my response to the edit. I refuse to answer that question. It's below me.
00:34:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah well Well, I mean, thank you very much, Jamie.
00:34:10
Jamie
That was amazing.
00:34:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
that was That was brilliant fun. I really enjoyed that. Thank you so much for coming along in there and for having a genuine mental breakdown on camera in front of me.
00:34:17
Jamie
Stay there.
00:34:22
Jamie
Yeah.
00:34:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was beautiful.
00:34:24
Jamie
Yeah.
00:34:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Thank you all for listening as well. As always, I've been Josh Vince. He was Jamie Patterson. ah We'll be back tomorrow with our crossover before the West Ham game. But until then, thank you for listening.
00:34:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sorry, Bucayo.
00:34:39
Jamie
Sorry, Vikar.
00:34:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
and we'll be back tomorrow. Thank you and goodbye.