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S1-E68 : Forecast Friday : Notingham Forest!

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It's time to look forward to what could be a tricky visit from 5th place in the Premier League, the suprise package that has been Nottingham Forest!

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Guests : Joshua Duncan, Jamie Patterson

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Introduction & Fixture Preview

00:00:09
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Hello hello hello and welcome to the Daily Arsenal Podcast brought to you on the Global Sports Podcast

Nottingham Forest's Surprising Performance

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Network. It's Friday which means it's time for our forecast into the weekend's fixtures and we're going to be looking at quite a potentially scary fixture coming up for us this weekend against Nottingham Forest, not in Forest, the surprise package of the Premier League this season.
00:00:31
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And to join me discussing these titans of football are the first team starters, the inevitable Joshua Duncan and Jamie Patterson.
00:00:42
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Jamie, great to have you back. How are we feeling about this upcoming fiction? Just the first opinion light before we get into it.
00:00:48
Jamie
You know what, to be honest with you, it's always eerie playing a team that are doing so well, ah especially like coming off the the back of an international break.
00:00:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:00:56
Jamie
It's, you know, credit due to Forrest, credit due where where it's due, but, you know, they've done all right.
00:00:57
Josh D
Yeah.
00:01:02
Jamie
But I think I'm more relieved that it's at the Emirates and it's not at the city ground. I think I'd be a lot more on edge if it was at the city ground.
00:01:06
Josh D
Yeah
00:01:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, God, yeah is is such it's a tight ground, isn't it? It's an intense ground.
00:01:13
Jamie
It is.
00:01:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
You don't want to be going there. What about you just like first thoughts about how this game could go for us? Are you positive, negative? How are you feeling?

Key Player Match-Ups & 'Josh Duncan Derby'

00:01:22
Josh D
Um, yeah, I'm pretty negative about it, to be fair.
00:01:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:25
Josh D
Um, it's one of the ones that literally every game is a tire to side off. But there's one thing I'm interested in and it's, it's, it's pretty much Chris Wood versus Havoc, you know, he was going to have a better game.
00:01:34
Jamie
Aye, aye, aye.
00:01:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is the Josh Duncan Derby.
00:01:35
Josh D
a music hey yeah it Yeah, he's, he's going to be better, you know, I think the money's on Chris Wood, you know, I mean, he can't.
00:01:38
Jamie
It's the Josh, it's the daily jobby.
00:01:43
Josh D
but
00:01:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
do you know what I was getting the stats up together and it's gonna it's definitely gonna be an interesting one because at the moment as I'm sure anybody who follows the Premier League is well aware and of course as all of us smart people predicted Nottingham Forest are doing quite well at the moment they're sat in fifth place in the Premier League table at the moment which is actually level on points with us Chelsea and Brighton
00:02:11
Josh D
Wow.
00:02:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
like they all four of those teams have 19 points the only reason they're in fifth is because their goal difference which is one less than ours um i'm not sure if that says brilliant things about forest or terrible things about us uh jamie what are you making that meteoric rise like the seasons kind of i feel like it's come out of nowhere
00:02:12
Jamie
Sorry Wow It really has and I mean I think for me, and for all of you guys as well, and for anyone listening, since that Liverpool game where they went to Anfield and like really put on a performance, that's that's another thing that actually kind of concerned me a little bit, is the fact that Forrest Away is gonna be really dangerous, really dangerous.
00:02:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:57
Jamie
And the

Arsenal vs. Nottingham Forest: Historical Context

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Jamie
thing is, we don't know what to expect. We really do not know what to expect.
00:03:00
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I think Josh does.
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Josh D
Yeah.
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Chris would.
00:03:03
Jamie
Yeah.
00:03:05
Josh D
I mean, look at that vegan habits.
00:03:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah I mean, a quick breakdown of our Premier League history against Forrest. So in just in terms of obviously we go way back because both like these teams are very historic teams, but we're just looking at Premier League. So played 14 times.
00:03:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Arsenal have won nine, we've drawn three and Forrest have only won two. You know, we've we've doubled the goals against them, 22 goals to 10 goals, six clean sheets to one clean sheet. um Both teams have a red card each.
00:03:32
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No penalties have been given in any of these Premier League games either.
00:03:34
Jamie
Ooh, okay.
00:03:37
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Our last season, we did the double over them. You're quite convincing. 2-2-1 wins. ah In the first one, which was at the Emirates in August in 2023, and Ketia and Saka scored our goals.
00:03:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then at the city ground on the 30th of January, it was Jesus and Saka. Now, Josh, obviously, um and Ketty are no longer with us. Not that he's died, but he just doesn't play for us anymore.
00:04:04
Josh D
That's pretty dark.
00:04:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Christ, that sounded really intense.
00:04:07
Josh D
Oh, Lord.
00:04:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
um i we We did well last season against them, but they weren't easy games. They were still closer than you'd imagine for a team who were battling at the bottom at that time.
00:04:21
Josh D
Yeah, I mean, we we were lucky, not lucky to get a result, but we, you know, it wasn't really pre, you know, wasn't pre at all. And Emirates, it's hard to tell what what's going to happen, you know, it's
00:04:35
Josh D
on the shift there and just get the job done. No dilly-dallying, you know, get the early goals in, shut up, shut up and on to the next game.
00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
do not dilly-dally lads. That's the Josh Duncan demand. None of that dallying around. ah Jamie, obviously, Jay-Zeus scored as well. ah This was kind of, e although Havocs was in the team last year, he wasn't he wasn't playing as brilliantly as he is this season, was he Josh? um um like We were still relying on Jay Zeus quite a bit at the moment at that point. ah Nowadays, Jay Zeus, I mean, you kind of mentioned it in a discussion we were having recently. You switched Jay Zeus for EZAC or something like that. Would you be happy to let Jay Zeus go from the Arsenal squad these days?
00:05:18
Jamie
Um,

Edu's Departure & Team Dynamics

00:05:19
Jamie
to be honest with you, I just, since the knee injury, I've just not seen that, I've not seen that free flowing kind of star from Jesus. And I know that Arteta has spoken about Jesus quite highly in training. And obviously before the season started, he was saying that he had a good pre-season.
00:05:36
Jamie
I don't know, I'm in ah i'm in a mixed mind with Jesus because the thing is, he hasn't had a run of games to kind of be like, right, well, let me put myself out there. A lot of his appearances have been from the bench. um So I'd give him a chance. And I think for JD, I mean, I'm sure, ah like he's already smiling because he knows what I'm going to say. but Um, it's the fact that, you know, if you could give him a run of games over habits, let's say, um, you know, and he would, and he proved himself.
00:05:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Drop Zaka for J-Zeus, yeah.
00:06:03
Jamie
I mean, I'm sure Jay Zeus would, I'm sure JD would be Jay Zeus's biggest fan at this point, but
00:06:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, you know, Josh, Jesus, they're they're comparable characters, let's be honest, like insightful, all-knowing, and ah quick to violence when it comes to certain arsenal of players.
00:06:12
Josh D
Heh heh heh. Heh heh heh.
00:06:19
Jamie
ah
00:06:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm pretty sure if Jesus was alive today, he'd have plenty of words to say about Kai but and then Leo too. Leo, of course. But yeah, that's kind of like, In terms of the history of these two clubs there's not really a huge amount to dive into because obviously Forest have only really recently reaffirmed themselves as a big club. um Obviously they've snatched, well they haven't snatched, but their group has snatched our technical director.
00:06:44
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um Josh, we we um me and Jamie did an emergency podcast when Edu announced he was leaving.
00:06:50
Jamie
Yep.
00:06:50
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I haven't really asked you actually how you feel about it. Are you particularly bothered or worried that Edu's

Nottingham Forest's Form & Stats

00:06:55
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gone? And especially to a consortium like the one with Forrest, what, Forrest Olympiarchos and the Portuguese team.
00:07:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think it's a bit of an odd move for Edu?
00:07:04
Josh D
Um, yeah, I'm appreciating if a tap has to get more money, you know, and, you know, if a doctor offers you more money. nothing personal you go so wishing him all the best but you know it's like they were finally getting somewhere they were building something in Arteta and it's kind of broken down I'm a bit sour about it you know I'd like to kind of see you know hopefully with this season you know we win the Premier League and you know Eddie's there and there's all that hard work and that you know workmanship they've had and that relationship they've had as well you know have something successful for it but I mean he's on for bigger things I guess
00:07:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, six million a year instead of two million a year apparently, which is much bigger things.
00:07:42
Jamie
Yeah.
00:07:43
Josh D
it
00:07:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. That's enough about history. We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we are going to focus on Forrest, on their form, on how they stand, and of course, on Josh's favorite New Zealand striker.
00:08:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll be back just after this break.
00:08:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
And welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. It is Forecast Friday. We are forecasting our way towards the Nottingham Forest game. Now, Jamie, ah we said both on 19 points. ah We have scored 18, we've conceded to 12, we got plus six. They have scored 15, conceded 10, and of a plus five. So they've only got one less goal difference than us. But their defensive stats have been pretty good this season and we're struggling to create. Do you see that as a problem going into this game?
00:09:02
Jamie
you can't hide the fact that that that is a small problem, to be fair. You know, it seems like, I don't know what it is, but, um and I'm not saying it's to do with Gabrielle and Saliba, but I think, again, it's, I've said it on previous podcasts before, but it's that left side. It's, I really do like timber. Like I, and I know JD's laughing there, but I like timber, but I just, I don't know. I just feel like maybe someone like a califiori brings a bit more I don't know, just I can't think of the word, but it's just...
00:09:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Salinity, decency.
00:09:38
Josh D
that Wow.
00:09:38
Jamie
Solidity, yes. Maybe solidity, but the thing is, like and I've said it before, but he will get forward, but it's just that we're very exposed on that left side.
00:09:42
Josh D
Good.
00:09:48
Jamie
But, you know, look, you look at the the players that Forest have got, you know, Chris Wood, as we've mentioned before, and even Callum Hodson-Adoy, you know,
00:09:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah

Arsenal's Creativity & Defensive Challenges

00:10:00
Jamie
forests that are not messing around this season and I'm sure if if you said to any forest fan like look you know you're 11 games into the season and you'd be sitting in the top five I mean a lot of forest fans would probably think you've gone to Lally or something but you know it is worrying because even looking back at previous forest games even but before they were in the Premier League you know the cut was always hideous for us because at the forest sc ground we'd get beaten But, Saka, you've had your two weeks off. Please, you love Forrest. You love scoring against Forrest. Please turn up this weekend. We need you more than ever, as well as Odegard. And I think you look at the Arsenal squad going into this weekend, actually. Like, we'll be looking a lot more fresher and a lot more stronger than, say, maybe a couple weeks back.
00:10:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah certainly hope you I certainly hope you're right because we need to be to deal with their offensive output. I mean, they've scored 15 goals and 10 of them, even, sorry, have come from two players. Callum Hudson-Adoy, who I think has been a bit of a revelation. He was always a good player, but he's been really good there. He's got two this season. Chris Wood has scored eight. Now, Josh.
00:11:20
Josh D
thank you
00:11:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Josh, Josh, Josh. My namesake, beautiful Jesus. Eight goals for Chris Wood. Do you think in his wildest imagination, he would be sitting at 11 games in with eight goals?
00:11:34
Josh D
Well, I'm pretty sure he dreamt of it, you know, whether you can actually, um you know, I don't know how he believes in it.
00:11:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:11:40
Josh D
With Chris Wood, he's one of them players, yeah. you know He's always been a danger, but he's just not he's just not fancy with it. you know he just He's your old-fashioned number nine, and i improve all hold you know, He's a little bit like a Heskey, but I think Heskey's a better player, you know? My opinion.
00:11:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I don't think anybody alive has ever said those words. i think He was a better player.
00:12:02
Jamie
ah
00:12:05
Josh D
but
00:12:06
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but i mean he's He's had a remarkable season, it's fair to say, as Chris Wood.
00:12:09
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
and i mean He's in his 30s, New Zealand, he's an international player, but everybody's written him off for years, I think. He'd always been a bit of a butt of the joke. But he's just he's not the butt of the joke anymore.
00:12:21
Josh D
its the good
00:12:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's He's absolutely storming it. But there is one thing I wanted to have a quick look at.
00:12:27
Jamie
Ha ha ha!
00:12:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
which is Forest's current form. So obviously they're fifth. They're doing really, really well. for And this sounds really condescending, but you shouldn't be there, Forest. You shouldn't be there. You're doing really well. um Their last five games. Drew won all the Chelsea at the bridge. Beat Palace at home, 1-0. Beat Leicester, 3-1 away. Beat West Ham at home, 3-0. And then lost recently to Newcastle, 3-1.
00:12:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jamie, that form is indicative of a really, really strong squad.
00:13:02
Jamie
Yeah, really is. And I mean, look, again, look at the teams they've come up against, you know, the fact that they've, you know, gone to the bridge, done what they needed to do at the bridge. And I mean, I touched on it earlier on the fact that they went to Anfield.
00:13:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:17
Jamie
anfield and scored there and won at anfield is just remarkable but you know credit due to nuno espirito santo i mean they've not had their decisions wise the season they've had it's It's not been great, but I mean, they've still managed to overcome everything.
00:13:38
Jamie
And despite Nuno getting sent to the stands and, you know, it's still been, you know, they've still done well.
00:13:43
Josh D
thank
00:13:46
Jamie
You know, they've still done really well. And I mean, it's scary.
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:50
Jamie
It is actually scary where Forrest could end up at the, at the end of the season.
00:13:55
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I mean, you've you've made it twice now. The fact they won at Anfield means that we should not necessarily be confident at the Emirates, which is where, I mean, our travelling results have not been good recently.
00:14:01
Jamie
No.
00:14:01
Josh D
You know.
00:14:05
Josh D
No.
00:14:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But at the Emirates, it should be our fortress. But, you know, it's it's a scary prospect them coming in. um Josh, there's something else I wanted to touch on about Forest, because I remember, you remember when they came up about two seasons ago and ah the insanity of their transfer market.
00:14:17
Josh D
yeah
00:14:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think they bought in their first season 21 players.
00:14:24
Josh D
yeah
00:14:24
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when they came up it was
00:14:25
Josh D
in here
00:14:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was, honestly, you'd sit back and watch it like marveling at the amount of money they were spending. I think it spent about $150 million on an entirely new squad. And it worked. They stood up. I'm not sure how they've squared off financial fair play, but it worked.
00:14:40
Josh D
is
00:14:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And they have a young core. Elliot Anderson is 22. Elanga, 22.
00:14:47
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.

Arsenal's Goal-Scoring Concerns

00:14:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hudson Adoy, 24.
00:14:48
Jamie
Oh yeah.
00:14:49
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And Murillo, 22. Now, Elanga and Hudson Adoy, I remember them signing. Both of them were thinking, those are Genius moves for those players I mean, what do you make of like the business that they did and especially looking at those two young talented wide players Yeah, I think so, yeah
00:14:59
Josh D
Yeah.
00:15:08
Josh D
Yeah, I think they identified something where a lot of players play as well. went A lot of teams, sorry, weren't really after them, you know, and they took that chance there in all smart times. And really, I mean, I'm only first starting the first kit. I think it came with the TTS in the door, I believe.
00:15:21
Josh D
david Yeah, I saw this guy, and I was thinking, this guy's a baller.
00:15:22
Jamie
Yeah.
00:15:25
Josh D
Absolutely baller. I think he's a bit on the red. I think defensively. He's a bit stocky, and he's not your typical cinema. He's not tall or strong, but he's strong. He's a bit, but he's easy he can ping a ball as well.
00:15:38
Josh D
He's got a decent shot on him. He defensively, he literally rides and dies for them, you know, when I watch stuff the first games.
00:15:43
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Mm.
00:15:45
Josh D
Yeah, they've got a lot of young spine there. they They're definitely a decent team.
00:15:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he strikes me. Marillo is incredibly intelligent.
00:15:53
Josh D
yeah
00:15:53
Jamie
Yeah.
00:15:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah He's a very, very smart center back. Like you say, he's not physically the most gifted player, but his technical capability and the way he reads the game is really, really good, especially for someone so young.
00:16:06
Josh D
yeah
00:16:06
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Like the salon value for him is going to be mad.
00:16:06
Jamie
Definitely.
00:16:09
Josh D
I didn't even know he was 22, you say?
00:16:11
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Twenty two.
00:16:12
Jamie
Yeah.
00:16:12
Josh D
I thought he was 25. I he 22.
00:16:14
Jamie
Crazy.
00:16:15
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22 man, hes he's a young hot prospect.
00:16:16
Josh D
Wow.
00:16:18
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right i mean I think that's enough looking at Forrest and panicking about Forrest.
00:16:22
Josh D
Yeah.
00:16:23
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We're gonna come back, we're gonna take a little break and when we come back we're gonna panic about Arsenal instead. So we'll be back just after this message from the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:17:07
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And welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. We are looking forward to our game against Nottingham Forest this weekend. And Jamie, it's time to talk about Arsenal. In terms of our form, currently, it's not been great, but I was having a quick look at our top goal-scorers. Not quite the numbers that Wood's putting away. In fact, Wood has scored double the amount that our top goal-scorer has scored. And our top goal-scorer this season is King Kai himself. Kai Havertz,
00:17:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
with four goals, and then we have Saka and Martinelli second on three. um In terms of our output, do you think that we're in for a change of fortunes and that we're gonna start seeing a few more goals being peppered in for Arsenal?
00:17:53
Jamie
Yeah, I definitely think so. I mean, I think it's been so useful and helpful now that we've got Odegard back in that setup. I believe that, you know, now coming into this, like now we're coming into this stretch of games where it's just Premier League football, League football. um It's just really good. And the fact that now we're we're getting players back to full fitness, it will go a long way. And I think especially like I said, having Odegard back will really kind of unlock the key for Martinelli, Saka, even maybe Kai Havertz, just to go and work wonders, you know.
00:18:29
Josh D
the
00:18:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Habits doesn't need it unlocked, he's already got it unlocked son.
00:18:35
Josh D
yeah
00:18:36
Jamie
Jadie, do you want to make a further comment on another on that?
00:18:39
Josh D
Ugh, man.
00:18:41
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You don't have to, JD.
00:18:42
Josh D
Okay.
00:18:43
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I actually wanted to ask you, Josh, about a different Arsenal player.
00:18:46
Josh D
um bad
00:18:46
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um So it's a player that is coming. He's coming for a bit of criticism this year and he had a bit of a slow start. Martinelli has five goal involvement so far for us this season.
00:18:58
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And I was asked on the crossover with the Liverpool and City podcast, whether I think he's good enough for us. And I've made no, I've made no doubts about how much I love him as a player. how How do you think he's sort of progressing with the team? do you think he Do you think we need to improve in that position or do you think he is good enough for us?
00:19:16
Josh D
I don't think a bit of competition would hurt. you know I think he does need a bit of competition. I think every player in the team needs a bit It's a weird moment him because I think he splits ael the fan base. Some people can't stand him and think he's terrible and some people love him. I'm a bit on the fence with him. I think he's a decent player. I think on his day, you know he's difficult to work with. On his day, he's decent.
00:19:36
Josh D
But I think sometimes he can be a bit of a one-trip pony, you know, and he plays with his head down a lot. I think he needs to look up and, and you know, just and understand the game a bit more, but hopefully he can kind of learn that um as he goes on.
00:19:42
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He does, yeah.
00:19:43
Jamie
Hmm.
00:19:49
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I've also found with his finishing this season, the only real my main critique I have for him this season is that his finishing has been trying to place the ball.
00:19:56
Josh D
Yeah, yeah.
00:19:57
Jamie
Yeah.
00:19:57
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Like we saw against Chelsea, like he the goal he scored was well placed. Sanchez should have done better with it, really.
00:20:01
Jamie
Hmm.
00:20:03
Josh D
yeah
00:20:04
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But I haven't seen him really belt the ball at the goal.
00:20:07
Jamie
True.
00:20:07
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like eat Some of the goals he scored in previous years, do you think something's holding him back a bit?
00:20:08
Josh D
Yeah.
00:20:13
Josh D
um Maybe he was injured before.
00:20:16
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Hmm.
00:20:16
Josh D
I think he has been getting injured as well from a last season's injured for a bit. So that obviously that doesn't help. you know um I think just he just needs a bit of consistency.
00:20:24
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Yeah.
00:20:24
Josh D
Consisting with himself. Consisting needs fitness. And I think i definitely think as a prayer ender, I think the Arsenal fans, I think he's

Arsenal's Key Players & Home Advantage

00:20:32
Josh D
rubbish. that. I don't think he's rubbish.
00:20:34
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They are wrong. I agree with you, Josh.
00:20:35
Josh D
but
00:20:36
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Martinelli to stay. None of this Martinelli out nonsense.
00:20:39
Josh D
and and
00:20:41
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Jamie, Arsenal to form. um We haven't won in four games in the Premier League. Our last win was against Southampton at home. Since then we played at home once, which was the draw with Liverpool to all, and we played away three times, two of which we'd lost, which was born with the Newcastle, and then we drew against Chelsea.
00:20:59
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um you can't look at the form that we are in at the moment and be hugely hopeful or do you see it in a different light?
00:21:07
Jamie
to be honest with you it's difficult because the thing is right a lot of our games as you've mentioned they've all been away from home I think it helps coming but off the off the back of an international break it helps being at home bearing in mind now i think our next home get i think we haven't got another home game till till like the start of december if i'm right in saying so yeah exactly so i'm kind of looking to the second half of the season where we're going to be having a lot of more home games but i think the fact now that we're at home we're in front of the emirates you know it'll be a full house north london forever blurring out
00:21:27
Josh D
yeah i think you right
00:21:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it is ridiculous the amount of away games that we played so early.
00:21:46
Jamie
That is, that is, if that's not enough motivation, I really don't know what is, but the thing is we need to now, I think, uh, Paul Merson kind of just said it, but we need to now, we now need to go on a run.
00:21:53
Josh D
Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:58
Jamie
We need to go on a massive run here because.
00:21:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:02
Jamie
It boosts the confidence and it just it would go such a long way. And like I said, Saka, I really think this this game could be Saka's game, really.
00:22:12
Jamie
He does like to turn up against Forrest, especially his his goal. Involvements have been really good. And I just think we we we just need a win. We really do need to go out there and give it everything.
00:22:22
Josh D
Yeah.
00:22:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it it is a must-win game and I think Josh said it earlier every game's a title game now and Merson often talks rubbish, but he's right there.
00:22:30
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:22:31
Josh D
yeah
00:22:35
Josh D
and
00:22:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
He is right there Yeah, we we need we need He's not that bad He does go with those rants quite a bit Josh
00:22:36
Jamie
Do you know what, for once he's actually right. Yeah, that's so true.
00:22:39
Josh D
I don't think he's that bad. um When you look at his little runts, yeah, he is, but bad. Yeah, he does.
00:22:47
Jamie
Yeah, ah yeah, I grew on that, yeah.
00:22:48
Josh D
All the time.
00:22:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, Josh, come back to Arsenal. Saka, Rice and Odegard all had a break, which they're three plays you don't normally associate with having a bit of a break. Obviously, Odegard's just come back from injury. Rice had a broken toe, hopefully he's a bit better off. Saka just needed some rest, I think.
00:23:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
do you think that this obviously the international breaks have been really weird we've had three of them this season already and we're only 11 games into the actual Premier League season do you think now that it's over and that the key the let's be honest they're probably our three key players they've now had a good rest do you reckon that is a good foundation to build that momentum going forward now that there's consistent games
00:23:15
Josh D
Yeah.
00:23:33
Josh D
Yeah, a hundred percent. um You know, international breaks breaking up and then in players getting injured and then the big fixtures has not helped us. You know, and we we kind of have shot ourselves on the foot with, you know, the sending offs and some of the ref decisions as well. But despite all of that, you know, having Rice over guard and tackle back, it's just a plus for us. And it gives us that spine that we we have so desperately needed.
00:23:56
Josh D
especially the older guy, we need to tell him how to be creative.
00:23:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:59
Josh D
So, I mean, if we're looking at our other fixtures, you know, we didn't pay that great, but, you know, we did have, we did miss key players. Now that we've got more most of them back, we should hopefully at least be running the game, if not winning it, surely.
00:24:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:15
Jamie
Yeah.
00:24:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think you're right. You know, red cards are over, Leandro Trossard's not gonna be starting anymore, so things are gonna get better.
00:24:20
Josh D
He might, he might.
00:24:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
but No he won't, Josh, don't say these things. Don't get more anxiety than I already have.

Match Predictions & Midfield Debate

00:24:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that's pretty much it from us. There's only one thing left to do, which we kind of have to do. It's it's a footballing podcast. We have to tempt the gods of fate. Jamie, what is your prediction for Arsenal at home against Nottingham Forest?
00:24:45
Jamie
You can't, I can't take them lighthearted. um For me, I will go, I think it's going to be a really close game to be fair, um but I'll probably edge, I think it's going to be really nitty gritty.
00:24:58
Jamie
I think it's going to-1 arsenal. I'm going Saka to score and I'm going Odegard to score. And then I'm probably going to say Chris Wood.
00:25:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. I mean, he's on the form of his life he should do. What about you, Josh?
00:25:12
Jamie
Yeah.
00:25:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do you reckon for a prediction?
00:25:13
Josh D
um Yeah, I was going to say 2-1. In my head, I'm thinking, as I wrote as i also find that, you know, when I would need him to win, they always lose. I'm probably going to say a 1-1 rule. But ah think I think we should be getting there 2-1.
00:25:27
Josh D
It'll be pretty ugly. And i am my goal scorers are... I'm going to say habits. Because every time I need him to not score, he scores.
00:25:37
Josh D
Every time I need him to score, he doesn't.
00:25:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:38
Josh D
So I'm going to say habits.
00:25:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't put any money on him scoring, that's for sure.
00:25:41
Josh D
I don't ever put my number That's not good. I probably say, have it, suck off. And I probably say, I have a langau, or Chris with a husband at the way to school, a random guy.
00:25:52
Jamie
Yeah, good shot.
00:25:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think it's going to be really gritty.
00:25:55
Josh D
Good.
00:25:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I agree with you. It's going to be far too tight to be comfortable. I'm actually going to go one nil to the Arsenal. I think it's going to be
00:26:04
Josh D
You say it's even clean sheet. Ooh.
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think we could keep a clean sheet. I'm hopeful we will. And I'm going to go goal scorer, Michal Marino. He's been popping up.
00:26:13
Josh D
hey
00:26:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's been popping up in awkward places.
00:26:15
Jamie
Okay.
00:26:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
If he plays and he could just knock one in for us and see us on our way. So that's why I'm not doing anything outlandish this time. Every time I've said four nil or something like that, we've ended up drawing.
00:26:23
Jamie
Fair enough.
00:26:26
Jamie
Fair enough.
00:26:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
So.
00:26:27
Jamie
Just, just quickly boys.
00:26:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Yeah.
00:26:29
Jamie
I want to fire something at you guys. Right. So with the midfield this weekend, I'd love to know who would you, who would your starting midfield be for this weekend's game?
00:26:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
for this weekend's game.
00:26:39
Jamie
Yeah.
00:26:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Erdogan definitely starts in their race.
00:26:42
Jamie
Yeah.
00:26:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, it's Erdogan of Rice. They're quiet ah quite a strong team.
00:26:48
Jamie
Who is that third man?
00:26:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know I've not been his biggest fan, but because of the size of their team, I'd actually start part A.
00:26:59
Josh D
yeah yeah yeah um the only thing i'll probably might start trust i'll trust to wind you up
00:26:59
Jamie
Ooh, okay.
00:27:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think I i would bring Marino on to replace either him or Rice halfway through the game. But I would start Part A, I think. What about you, Josh? You the same.
00:27:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, you little. I've been so nice to you this whole castle.
00:27:17
Jamie
yeah
00:27:19
Josh D
He doesn't start off with me. Yeah, I've raised it the same night. I would probably start Rice, Pate, Sakhar, Montanini.
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:27:27
Jamie
Yeah.
00:27:27
Josh D
I think that's just fine, really. And then I'd obviously go to God.
00:27:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:30
Josh D
That's the strong team I'd say about putting in.
00:27:32
Jamie
Fair enough.
00:27:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Did you have a different opinion, Jamie?
00:27:35
Jamie
I did actually.
00:27:35
Josh D
Yeah.
00:27:36
Jamie
i I would have gone from Marino over Partey.
00:27:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, okay, okay.
00:27:39
Josh D
Really?
00:27:40
Jamie
Yeah, I just think pressing forward, I saw it in the Chelsea game. He was very unlucky to not at least tuck one of the chances away. But I think he's slowly starting to grow into this Arsenal squad.
00:27:53
Jamie
But again, Arteta is going to have such a headache over the weekend because he'll He'll have an idea of Rice and Odegard, but is who is that other midfielder that starts? And it's either between Marino or Partey.
00:28:07
Jamie
But I think for me, I'd go Marino.
00:28:07
Josh D
I think we'll shine in this game, though. I think we'll shine in this game, Part 2.
00:28:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
You reckon?
00:28:11
Josh D
I already do. Yeah, I just think you will.
00:28:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
One thing I will say about Marino though Jamie is a fairly good point.
00:28:17
Jamie
Go on.
00:28:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I didn't watch the game myself but there's a lot of reports coming out that the Spanish media were singing the absolute praises of Marino after their game.
00:28:21
Jamie
Yeah.
00:28:27
Josh D
Oh, really?
00:28:28
Jamie
Mmm.
00:28:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Apparently he had a world class performance for Spain at the weekend.
00:28:32
Jamie
Ooh.
00:28:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't actually know who it was against, but I did see the headlines and I saw there was a lot of chatter about how good he was.
00:28:34
Jamie
Hey.
00:28:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
So you might be under something there.
00:28:39
Josh D
Wasn't it Denmark? I think, was it Denmark?
00:28:40
Jamie
I think- yeah.
00:28:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Denmark, that was it.
00:28:42
Josh D
Yeah, it was Denmark.
00:28:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Denmark, it was Denmark.
00:28:42
Jamie
Yeah.
00:28:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
ye See, this is why we need you Josh. This is why we need to be working
00:28:46
Josh D
with
00:28:46
Jamie
Ha

Closing Remarks & Next Episode Tease

00:28:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
together.
00:28:47
Jamie
ha ha ha!
00:28:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
No longer heads with all this Trussard habits nonsense. Please be united on one Josh front.
00:28:53
Jamie
yeah
00:28:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, that is a that's it for today's podcast. We hope you enjoyed. Make sure to follow, subscribe, and share us wherever you get your podcasts. We have been the Daily Arsenal Podcast. I have been Josh Vince, your host. They were Jamie Patterson and Joshua Duncan. Thank you so much for listening. And we'll be back next Monday to talk about how the game went. So we will see you then. And until then, goodbye.