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DLC 23. We Rank the Call of Duty Games from WORST to BEST! w Notorious DLB | Games Over Plastic
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In this episode we get together with a guest, Notorious DLB, to rank all of the call of duty games since cod 4 in 2007 from WORST to BEST. Where will your favorite games end up?
Video version with each game shown as ranked at https://www.youtube.com/@gamesoverplastic?sub_confirmation=1
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:30
Speaker
And welcome everybody. Welcome to Games Over Plastic, the podcast for the agnostic gamers. No console wars, just fun over here. On this very special DLC episode, um we are going to be ranking the Call of Duty games from worst to best.
00:00:47
Speaker
Now we're not doing every single game. We're doing every game basically since COD 4. So we got COD 4, World at War, ah you know the whole list here um i'll go through the whole list here in a minute i don't have it I'm not ready for it just yet.
00:00:59
Speaker
um But on this episode joining me, i have, of course, the master of graphics and my usual co-host, Hodge. How you doing, sir? Doing good. It feels like we just recorded. It's crazy.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, doesn't it? Yeah. But happy to be here to talk hot. I
Notorious DLB's Background
00:01:16
Speaker
haven't talked to Call Duty in a hot minute. I used to be obsessed with this series. So when you talked about i was like, ooh, I need to hop on that episode with you guys and talk about it. So happy to be here.
00:01:26
Speaker
Yeah, it used to be good. So yeah, it used to be but used to be like the my game. I always look forward to like when they're like, oh, revealing the new cod. It was like, oh, hell yeah. I got to tune in or revealing the new cod.
00:01:38
Speaker
Heck yeah. And we are joined by a very special guest making his first appearance, I think, on Games Over Plastic, although he has been a guest on my channel before.
00:01:49
Speaker
ah This is the one and only Notorious DLB. ah How you doing, sir? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me here. I'm ready. welcome. I'm ready to talk some cod. I used to love cod too, and I'm falling off lately. So let's see what we can get going here.
00:02:05
Speaker
Yeah, for those of you that don't know, my boy DLB or Debo, as we call him sometimes, ah is a former Call of Duty YouTuber, just like me. Back in the day, we used to make COD videos.
00:02:16
Speaker
And unlike me, he's actually really, really good at the games. He's like a 4KD player. um like He's a beast. He goes in. was constantly dropping killstreaks, like swarms all day. I'm just like, damn, settle down, bro.
00:02:29
Speaker
ah how many How many nukes have you gotten
Explaining the Ranking Process
00:02:31
Speaker
in your life? Do you know? I have no idea. I mean, I can't really count that high, I guess. oh look at you know We never really went for nukes much. like We weren't like those types of dudes. so um But yeah, definitely he definitely got more than me. i know i got I never got one. I know exactly how many I have because it's not many.
00:02:51
Speaker
I got two Moabs on Modern Warfare 3. I got one Chem Strike on Ghost. I got one Nuclear on Black Ops 2. And that's pretty much it So it's not much.
00:03:03
Speaker
oh
00:03:06
Speaker
Shout out to Halloween Bucky, by the way. i got the Halloween Bucky the beaver. You feel me? Oh, yeah. Love it. We love Bucky's on this podcast. Yes, we do.
00:03:16
Speaker
All right. So
Discussion: Worst Call of Duty Games
00:03:18
Speaker
what we're going to do here, guys, is let me go ahead and figure this out here. Do you, guys does any of you guys have the list of the Call of Duty launches like in order? Yeah, I do. Can you read it off from the cod for to the present?
00:03:30
Speaker
Yeah, obviously before COD 4, there was 1, 2, and 3. Those are named, obviously, aptly. 2007, COD 4, Modern Warfare. 2008 was World at War. 2009 Modern Warfare 2. 2010 was Black Ops. 2011 Modern Warfare 3. 2012, Black Ops 2. 2013, Ghosts, everyone's favorite. 2014 is Advanced Warfare. 2015, Blobs 3.
00:03:42
Speaker
2016, Infinite Warfare. three twelve black ops two thirteen ghosts everyone's favorite fourteen is advanced warfare fifteen blos three sixteen infinite warfare which also came with a COD 4 remaster. 17 was World War II. 18 was Blobs IV. 19 was Return to Modern Warfare. 20 was Cold War, Blobs Cold War.
00:04:04
Speaker
21, Vanguard. 22, Modern Warfare 23, Modern Warfare 2024, Black this year we will be seeing Black op seven and All right.
00:04:15
Speaker
Can't wait for that. Just kidding. But ah all right. So let's go ahead and get into this. So basically, audience, this is how it works. We all individually ranked these games from number 18, which was the worst, all the way down to number one, which is the best. We're doing 18 games total.
00:04:31
Speaker
um They do not know what the overall ranking is. They each sent me theirs and I made my own list. I then put it in a spreadsheet and did a little math here to average it out. um So we have our composition, composite, whatever.
00:04:44
Speaker
uh averaged out rankings here is what we're gonna have so we're gonna go through these from worst to best and we're gonna discuss each game you know briefly you know however much we feel like it and then we'll move on to the next one so let's go ahead and get started at number 18 you guys have any guesses what do you guys think number 18 might be what do you think is the worst cod ghost maybe close ghost maybe vanguard The number 18 and the worst game that we did was Advanced Warfare.
00:05:16
Speaker
oh yeah. Advanced Warfare. um This had a total score of 47. ah Midnight, that's me. I had it as number 12. Debo, you had it 18. And Hodge, you had it 17. So that's an average of 15.666, whatever.
00:05:34
Speaker
Score. So that is the worst, Advanced Warfare. um I didn't have this game ranked that low. I had it number 12. um So there were six games or whatever that I thought were worse than this, mostly because I actually did think that this game had pretty good maps. The maps were solid.
00:05:47
Speaker
um And even though the movement was chaotic and cancerous, it was also somewhat fun. um Playing search and destroy ah game battles and stuff was pretty fun on this. ah Like doing some jetpacks and getting some snipes or like outplaying people occasionally ah with the jetpacks was fun. But overall, this wasn't that great of a game.
00:06:06
Speaker
What do you guys think about this one? Whoever wants to go first, Hodge. ah dea I'll go first. ah This one, I remember this was back when in the day when I actually played the campaigns. And so and back in the day, this was House of Cards Spacey. So everyone obviously, you know, pre, you know, cancellation.
00:06:26
Speaker
Uh, this was, uh, so knowing that Kevin Spacey was going to be the game, I was like, oh man, I cannot wait to like play a campaign with freaking Kevin Spacey and it's going to be awesome. And then the beta came out and I was like, I fucking hate this game because I, so I, if obviously midnight, you know, this Debo, you may not. I love Titanfall.
00:06:48
Speaker
I absolutely love both of those games. They're so good. And obviously fitting seeing as they were made by old infinity war developers and i And this one just felt like we have Titanfall at home. They added this horrible jetpack movement. It just, the I hate, it's going to be a common theme on my list overall with Call of Duty. I hate the futuristic Call of Duty stuff.
00:07:11
Speaker
I do not like, I like the boots as they overused when they returned to boots on the ground. ah But I like that boots on the ground gameplay where it's very you know, more, more down to earth gameplay. So this sci-fi shit, I could not stand. And I hated the beta, never bought the game when it came out. Literally. That is the only experience I have of this game is playing the beta.
00:07:33
Speaker
And I hated every moment of it. And I never played this game again.
00:07:38
Speaker
Debo, what were your thoughts about advanced warfare? You got anything for it?
Mixed Opinions: Modern Warfare 3
00:07:41
Speaker
um I'm glad Hodge mentioned the, uh, the campaign. Cause the campaign was definitely the best part about this trash game. Um,
00:07:49
Speaker
The movement really biggest turnoff for me. That's pretty much why it's last on my list. Anything and you'll see this as a trend with all my gods is that if there's terrible movement, if it's too fast, if it's, you know, too vertical, things like that, I'm not going to like it. So advanced warfare was like the absolute worst example of the worst kind of movement that I've seen in the series. And I just I couldn't get with it.
00:08:14
Speaker
There was too much. You had to look up. You had to look. Up and to the right, up and to the left, down to the left, down to the right. It's just too chaotic. So anything where there's no consistency and where people are coming from or predictability in that movement, it's not for me. So that's why it's the last on my list.
00:08:32
Speaker
No doubt. This game also destroyed like three controllers on the Xbox One of mine. ah Because when yeah if you actually played that game a fair bit, like the way you had to like push in the right stick all the time to jetpack, I got stick drift on that right stick so many times and I would have to like just get completely new controllers.
00:08:48
Speaker
And I wasn't using base controllers. I was using scuff controllers too. So we're talking about like $200 controller that I'd had to replace like three times. I was pissed. They owe me money for that. But...
00:09:00
Speaker
All right,
Memorable Features of Call of Duty Games
00:09:01
Speaker
let's go ahead move on to the next worst game, number 17, only slightly better. This one was Infinite Warfare. um This game, to me, was my worst game. And Hodge, you and I both had it 18.
00:09:14
Speaker
We hated this game. But Debo, you had it 10th. ah You had it 10th on your list, so you liked it more. um That's why it was just narrowly better than Advanced Warfare. ah Debo, what did you think about this one? Why did you have it ranked 10th?
00:09:26
Speaker
Boy, y'all hated it this much, man. The last one on the list. So i will admit it's similar to Advanced Warfare, but it was toned down greatly. So this came out at a time where pretty much all the jetpack gods had come out.
00:09:40
Speaker
And basically this was like the last one. So when it came out, they knew it was gone overboard and things like that. They toned down the jetpack stuff and just it was decent.
00:09:52
Speaker
The I mean, what do I have it at? Like you said 10. Yeah. um The gunplay was solid. I mean, the the movement was smooth. You still had that more so advanced kind of movement with the jetpack, but it wasn't crazy.
00:10:04
Speaker
And just the gunplay, it felt so smooth. And Fendi Ward, they have a tendency to make really good game play in my and gunplay, in my opinion. um And I just liked it. I mean, and know that's that's probably kind of a weird opinion.
00:10:17
Speaker
And I've got another one on this list. That's probably an unpopular opinion as well. That's more of the recent cards, but Infinite Warfare. Solid game. Overrated. OK, OK.
00:10:28
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, I didn't play this game that much. I feel like if they didn't bundle COD 4 Remastered in it, probably it would have sold very poorly, I i think. ah COD 4 bundled in kind of saved the sales. I just wasn't feeling this one as much.
00:10:41
Speaker
It was dumbed down a little bit on the movement side, but it was also dumbed down on the fun. like I thought the maps were way worse um than the previous two games. Advanced Warfare and ah Black Ops 3 both had great maps.
00:10:52
Speaker
um The maps on Infinite Warfare were assed. um And yeah, I just it wasn't as fun. Hodge, what say you? Infinite Warfare. Yeah, this is by far my least favorite one. I remember I don't know if this was ever beaten by a later game, but I remember this one had like a horrible dislike ratio on YouTube when it was premiered because everyone was like it like went to space and everything. Everyone's like, what? Like.
00:11:16
Speaker
what are we doing? And I remember it was the, this game had Conor McGregor and Jon Snow in it. And everyone's like, Oh, there's the celebrity cameo of the game. And it's like, I um i remember Jon Snow's character wasn't like horrible in the campaign, but i just, so I'm, I only bought this game cause this was kind of during my, I didn't play call of duty that much during this like span.
00:11:40
Speaker
And i remember I only bought it because it came with the COD 4 remaster because, I mean, we'll see on the list. COD 4 is one of my favorite games of all time. And so when it said remaster was coming with it, I'm like, I am i will spend the $100 that it costs to get the version that came with it because I loved that game that much. and But since I owned it, I was like, screw it, I'll play it.
00:12:02
Speaker
And i'm I'm not going to spoil the ending, but I will just say that they tried to make you care about these characters and I didn't. So when what happened happened... I was just like, all right.
00:12:13
Speaker
Okay. All right. I guess that happened. And I remember the mission structure it had like a hub and you had to pick the missions to go to the missions. And, but the one thing I will agree with you on, but again, well quickly, this is another one of those with the stupid sci-fi movement. Do not like that.
00:12:29
Speaker
But i will say infinity ward is the best, like you said, with the gameplay, the gunplay. And that I really did like, like, I mean, granted, there's not a Call Duty game that plays badly, like in terms of the gunplay. That is one thing. Call of Duty has always been, you know, top of the of like the FPS ah genre with is their gunplay has always been peak.
00:12:51
Speaker
ah But yeah, I hated i just did not like the ah the campaign. i don't think I played much of the multiplayer just because, like I said, it came with COD four. So I hopped right back into COD four. I didn't play. I didn't touch.
00:13:04
Speaker
the multiplayer on this one. But yeah, I just didn't like this campaign, so I just never bothered with it. And yeah, so I just do not like this game at all.
00:13:17
Speaker
and Okay, fair enough. um I think we all agree pretty much, except for DLB, who somewhat liked it. um All right, moving on to the number 16th here.
00:13:28
Speaker
This one was Modern Warfare 3 2023 edition. So the new Modern Warfare 3. um On this one here, I ranked it 16th on my list. DLB, you had it 12th on your list. And Hodge, you also had it 12th on your list.
00:13:43
Speaker
So that's a total score of 40. um Lower is better, of course. So yeah, this was ah number 16 for all of us. This one here, I'll be honest with you, I barely played this game at all. This is going to be a trend with like the last several CODs. I barely even played them just because like I played the betas and I played maybe a little bit of launch and I just dropped off for real quick. I'm like, I'm not feeling this. So ah For me, I'm not going to have a whole lot to add for some of these brand new ones because I just didn't play them that much.
00:14:08
Speaker
But yeah, Modern Warfare 3 2023, I don't think it was very good. Didn't play it very much. D.O.B., what did you think of this one here? What were your thoughts? Oh, very mid. I guess that's what comes to mind for me.
00:14:20
Speaker
um Really, it's called Modern Warfare 3, but it was actually like a remake of the original Modern Warfare 2, which is very confusing. A lot of Modern Warfare 2 maps and... in Just a very weird game. Nothing really special about it. and I know some people thought it was like a ah better version of the the Modern Warfare.
00:14:43
Speaker
What was that? Modern Warfare 2 in 2022. ah i don't know. I'm getting all these names mixed up. They're re-releasing different sequels as different numbers and things like that. But yeah, not too memorable for me. And like to you, I didn't really play it that much. i don't really have much to say about it.
00:14:59
Speaker
Yeah.
Controversial Features in Recent Titles
00:15:00
Speaker
Yeah. We really haven't played a ton of Call of Duty the past couple of years just because I feel like the franchise has left us behind a little bit with some of their changes and things. But um you also had it ranked 12th, Hodge. What did you think about this one?
00:15:13
Speaker
So this one, I only have it ranked there just because there's games I hate more. But yeah, I never played. i never even played the campaign of this one. i also heard it was like three hours long. It was really, really short. And I mean, they kind of crafted out apparently because I remember them.
00:15:31
Speaker
thinking like they were back on that every other year pattern, but instead they announced three the year after two and everyone's like, really? And then, yeah. so was this the one that launched basically with Call Duty two maps was like the only maps it had or yeah this for two maps.
00:15:47
Speaker
This was supposed to be like just a DLC. for her Yeah, that's right. For the Modern Warfare 2. and they were going to skip a year. But then they were like, no, we're going to charge full price. And we're going to make it its own game.
00:15:58
Speaker
That's right. Yeah. yeah Because I remember I did play a ah ah little bit of this multiplayer just because of the maps. I remember I hopped into beta and it was awesome playing... What's that? Skyrise? can't remember what that map is. Highrise.
00:16:12
Speaker
Highrise, yeah. I remember really liking that map and stuff and playing it. And so I enjoyed it for that. But yeah, this is another one where... I didn't play the campaign. I just gave up on it. Cause I remember modern warfare 2019, the graphics for that campaign were so good. And then it felt like two and three were a step down somehow. It's like, what happened? Like there are moments in modern warfare 2019 that legitimately look real.
00:16:37
Speaker
And then this one, there was never a moment in this game where I felt like that. And I was just like, why is it such a step down? But yeah, there's games. I just hate more than this one and playing the multiplayer on those old maps.
00:16:48
Speaker
I played ah actually a decent amount of it, and I enjoyed that part of it. But overall, yeah, it's kind of middle of the pack for me because, like you said, it's kind of mid, but it was just kind of probably a little bit of nostalgia glasses of why I enjoy it a little bit with those old maps.
00:17:03
Speaker
But yeah, it's not a great game, but it's definitely not nearly as offensive as some of the other Call of Duties. and All right. Good stuff. right. Let's go ahead and ah move on then to our number 14 game on the list. We're getting slightly better.
00:17:19
Speaker
And this one was Call of Duty Ghosts. um This was ranked so high mostly because of me. I ranked it ninth. Ghosts was my ninth favorite. Um, DLB, you had it 15.
00:17:30
Speaker
Um, once we added the, uh, the two D did not plays and where you wanted them. And then, uh, Hodge 13 was yours. So for call duty ghosts, for me, I'll start on this. I thought that this game was super mid, um, like the streaks and, and just like the general multiplayer feel wasn't very good. Like you died super fast.
00:17:48
Speaker
Uh, the maps were just okay. A lot of the maps were like way too big. Like that big ass stonehenge, like Irish map or whatever was, was ridiculously big. There was a couple other ridiculously big maps.
00:17:59
Speaker
um I think the main reason why I ranked this ninth is because it is better than the the last four or five for sure for me. um It did still have that classic Call Duty d feel, even though you died super quick.
00:18:12
Speaker
um And also the search and destroy in that game was incredible. um Like the search and destroy game battles, I played so much of that with Killshot and with other people. ah we were We were doing that a lot, 2v2, 4v4.
00:18:25
Speaker
um And search and destroy played amazing on a lot of those maps like freight, the train map in the middle and Warhawk or whatever that one where you like go down the street that that one street map, which was pretty good.
00:18:36
Speaker
Like a lot of these maps played really good for search and destroy. And the quick time to kill was also pretty good for search and destroy because you you land like two, three bullets. They're dead. um So it really it really paid off awareness, so you know, awareness and knowing where to look and pre fire and stuff.
00:18:50
Speaker
um
Praising Black Ops Titles
00:18:51
Speaker
So I really enjoyed it. It was carried by Game Battles and Search and Destroy for me. um But yeah, Ghost, that's what I got there, was my ninth game. DLB, give us some bars here for Ghost.
00:19:02
Speaker
So I'm glad you mentioned Search and Game Battles because that was like the only positive I could really think of this game. um Yeah, you died extremely fast. That was probably my main complaint is that you couldn't move because as soon as you just moved out from cover, you were you were dead in a second.
00:19:19
Speaker
um But I think the the biggest disadvantage that Ghost had is that it came out right after Black Ops 2. And Black Ops 2 was just so good. And spoiler alert, probably the best Call of Duty of all time that it just made Ghost look terrible by comparison, even though it was a decent game.
00:19:37
Speaker
But yeah, pretty much all I got to say about it. Yeah, I remember DLB because remember this kind of it was like a ah generational switch. Remember, we picked it up on the 360 and we were like, yeah, this this game's like not really that great. But we were like, but when it comes out on Xbox One and PS4, it was going to have ground war. Remember, that was a big thing. They withheld ground war. So we're like, well, once they add ground war, that's going to fix it. It's going to be great.
00:20:00
Speaker
ah So we got the Xbox One. And we got Ghosts on there with Ground War, and it was still ass. In fact, it was probably even worse with the extra three people. you are just You were dying super quick more often. So it wasn't the move.
00:20:13
Speaker
Hodge, what did you think on this? You had it at 13. Yeah, this one I remember basically the only reason, because let me look at the list of the Call Duty games again. ah Because, yeah, I had pretty much...
00:20:26
Speaker
Yeah, I kind of lost a little bit of hype, which is surprising because, yeah, it wasn't really anything bad before this one. This was kind of the beginning of the mid era of Call of Duty. Yeah, but I remember the really the only reason I bought it right away was because it was a launch game for x Xbox One and PS4. And i so I was in college or I had just finished college ah when the PS4 and Xbone were launching.
00:20:50
Speaker
And I was working at Domino's, saving up all my tip money and envelope in my room just so I could buy this Xbox when it launched, which again, as Midnight knows, I am an Xbox One defender. I am one of the few who actually really like that console.
00:21:04
Speaker
And ah but yeah, this game was incredibly mid. i remember getting it and just being like, Like the the the the selling point was you have a dog. Like that was the selling point of this game. yeah And um'm just i just remember being like, this game is just really boring. Like it's bland. like i don't I genuinely don't remember the campaign. you it Gun to my head, i would say there's a dog. That's all I know about this campaign.
00:21:29
Speaker
i don't remember. riley Yeah, the only thing I remember about this game was the multiplayer map Octane. I really liked that map. That was the desert one, right? Yeah, it was like the desert one. That another amazing search and destroy map. Sorry.
00:21:43
Speaker
yeah No, yeah, you're good. that the I just, that's like, again, that's the only thing I remember because that was a really good map. So that's really all i remember from this game. So it's like, I couldn't put it last because I didn't hate it, but it was so bland and forgettable that I couldn't remember any like the positives about this thing other than that map.
00:22:02
Speaker
So it's just kind of middle of the pack for me. ah But yeah, it was a launch game and I got it and I remember... You know, loving throwing up the Xbox One, and launching Call of Duty and playing it. But other than that, yeah, this game was just forgettable, really.
00:22:17
Speaker
But yeah. That's all I think about that game. it's i i I honestly forgot. I think if I remember right, I could be wrong, but I want to say it was either this one or like the next one where it was still launching on the previous gen. Well, this one obviously was, but it might have been Advanced Warfare where it launched on the previous gen and they IGN put up like a comparison video and the previous gen version was so bad that everyone's like, why are they even bothering with this? But I think it might have been Advanced Warfare, not Ghosts, where they did that.
00:22:50
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This game, it was just bland and forgettable. Yeah. So we all said our piece on ghosts at number 14. Okay. I think I just realized something. I think I go totally skipped over the number 16 game, which was black ops six. We didn't talk about that. Did we ah no no we just professional, professional podcast guys, professional podcast. So at number 18 guys, number 18, we had advanced warfare number 17. We had infinite warfare at number 16. We had a game which we'll cover now awkwardly, which was black ops six.
00:23:23
Speaker
Black Ops 6 is the most recent COD, the current one right now. um I had it at 17. um Debo, you had it at 17, and Hodge, you had it at 9 somehow, so you liked it. So me and DLB, we hate this game.
00:23:36
Speaker
ah Hodge, why did you have this at 9? ah What's good about it? um but's I gotta pull up my list of all the Call of Duties. So, yeah, I had pretty much fallen off, and I was kind of really on and off with Call of Duty. It was honestly the only reason I have this one ranked better is because it launched...
00:23:57
Speaker
into our, obviously we have our discord that we talk with everyone on and and it launched in that and everyone started playing it in the beta. And honestly, it was just a fun party game, basically. Like I hopped in with everyone and that's why i really enjoyed it.
00:24:09
Speaker
I actually liked the Omni movement stuff. I liked some of the maps. Uh, it, It just wasn't offensive to me, if that makes sense. Like, I just don't hate the game, really.
00:24:21
Speaker
it was i didn't It wasn't a game I hopped in and played by myself, but I had enough friends who were playing it that I'd hop in and play it. And really, if a game isn't, like, amazing, but I have a lot of friends playing it, I give it a lot of credit for that because i like...
00:24:36
Speaker
Multiplayer games I play. I don't play by myself with multiplayer games. So if it's a game that I know is capturing the audience of my friends, I'm going to enjoy it more. And so that's kind of how I feel with this game. I don't I didn't play the ah the campaign. If it even had one, I genuinely have no idea.
00:24:54
Speaker
ah It's just one that I like topping into the play
World at War: Zombies and Multiplayer
00:24:57
Speaker
multiplayer and playing with my friends. So that's really why I have it ranked high. It wasn't offensively bad. I did fall off of it pretty quick. once you know There's always that period in every COD game where when it starts off, it's fun. Everyone's enjoying it But then the casuals fall off and it comes very sweaty.
00:25:13
Speaker
And then i'll even the sweats start falling off and then the cheaters come in. And so that's kind of when that point hits, I fall off the Call of Duty. And that's kind of what happened with this one of I was playing with my friends for a long time and then we all started getting our asses kicked. So we all stopped playing and then I never went back to it. So, yeah, it's just this game just isn't offensively bad to me, which is why I kind of have it there in the middle. It's just it's it was a fine game.
00:25:40
Speaker
But my friends played it, so I enjoyed it for that. Okay. DLB, you had it at 17, just like I did. ah Why was this game ass? Tell us. The jetpacks and the crazy movement and advanced warfare killed it for me.
00:25:56
Speaker
So, ah yeah, Omni Movement did the same thing for this game. Omni Movement is like the absolute worst form of movement outside of the whole Jetpack's and Advanced Warfare. It's terrible. it's It's super sweaty, and especially with skill-based matchmaking and the type of lobbies that I get, it's just nothing but people sliding on their butt across the map, and it's it's it's crazy. Like, I can't even play this game without getting a headache, just with the way people move.
00:26:24
Speaker
um Yeah, that's about it. That's probably the God I put some of the lowest amount of time into. And it it really does suck. I will. I will give you that, though. I once they added the slide, especially with as far as you can slide once i added that in the dive, i was just kind of like.
00:26:42
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Like, because I'm not bad at aiming, but the second people are, you know, matrixing across the map, I'm like, what am i trying to shoot? So I i completely understand that that aspect.
00:26:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's too fast and chaotic to keep up with. Like, um'm we're not... We're not 13 anymore. Like we have jobs. We're old. Like I don't have the time to to grind and get that good. And I don't have the reflexes to ah to be looking 38 places at once and seeing someone super saying sliding across the screen.
00:27:13
Speaker
Dudes were doing the craziest shit. They would like slide and then jump the other way and then slide back all while they're shooting you from the hip. And it was just insane. Like pre firing you while sliding like it was. Yeah.
00:27:24
Speaker
I think it was and think it our buddy Stevie who said they that they need a 9-to-5 mode where it's you're only playing against people who work full-time jobs instead of these sweats who are in there just you know have 50 hours in their first two weeks of the game being out. like they need they They need that at the COD, make it a little more enjoyable for us.
00:27:44
Speaker
For real, that's what we need. right, so that was Black Ops 6. And then at 15, we had Modern Warfare 3, 2023, which we already talked about. And then at 14, we had Ghosts, which we already talked about.
00:27:54
Speaker
And now I won't forget any anymore, I promise. At number 13, we're on track now, professional podcaster, everyone. ah We have Call of Duty World War two ah from 2017, I believe.
00:28:07
Speaker
um This one I had at number eleventh DLB, you had it at 14. Hodge, you had it at 10. So that's a total of 35, putting it at the 13th ranked game. So World War II. This one, I was really hyped for this game. I thought this game was going to be awesome. It's like, oh, boots on the ground.
00:28:23
Speaker
Old school. We're going to have that World at War feel. We're going to have that old really old school Call Duty feel. um But for some reason, this game just didn't hit for me. Like, I think the mats were pretty bad.
00:28:34
Speaker
um i think the guns just didn't feel very fun to use. Like, I get that they're older guns, of course, but like they just didn't have good feel or or impact. um So I just I just really fell off this game pretty quick. I played the beta.
00:28:48
Speaker
We played a little bit for like a month, if that, after the beta. And then I was like, you know, I think I'm good on this one. ah What did you think about this one, Hodge? World War Two. ah This is the one I actually have the least amount of time in. I remember I played the beta. I think that's it.
00:29:03
Speaker
I think this one just kind of solidified for me that I don't like Sledgehammer. i It's just i remember being excited because this is the first one to come out after Infinite Warfare, which, as you as I said, I do not like at all.
00:29:18
Speaker
So I remember being, yeah, it's all the return to World War two We went way too far into the future. Let's take the step back to so World War II. And then I remember that I have a vivid memory of watching the trailer.
00:29:32
Speaker
And it was the most Call of Duty trailer that there is where it's just explosion, explosion, explosion. Everything's fast explosion. I'm like... oh, it you're going back to World War II, but you're still doing modern Call of Duty just set with the World War II skin.
00:29:49
Speaker
And I just didn't like it. I didn't enjoy it. And so it's kind of middle the pack just because, again, this is one where – Like I didn't hate it, but I didn't play enough of it to like it. So it's just kind of ah another one. That's very forgettable. Like I forget that there was the cod world war two until someone mentions it to me.
00:30:08
Speaker
And so I'm, I just, it's just in the middle because there's ones that are more offensive to me, but it's not one that I like. So I just kind of plopped it there in the middle of my list to forget about it.
00:30:22
Speaker
All right. Excellent. Um, Did you already go over this one, DLB? I don't remember. No, you know. Talk to us about World War II. Yeah, I actually had like a really difficult time ranking this, mainly because I don't feel like I can judge it properly. so This game, the multiplayer, if you remember, it actually went through a pretty huge overhaul like a few months after it was released. So like the way perks work, the whole system of that, I believe that got changed.
00:30:52
Speaker
I believe like some of the community managers or the people who were like the head of multiplayer, they ended up leaving. um So really the the sentiment of it, the main sentiment was that like the game was completely different after that overall happened.
00:31:06
Speaker
um And by the time that happened, unfortunately, I had pretty much given up and I never went back to it. I think I was in college at the time or something. And i was I was having to lock in and get those grades up. um But yeah, I never came back to it.
00:31:19
Speaker
So I feel like my grade is more so of a incomplete. I didn't really care for it at first, but I feel like maybe I would think differently if I played it more after that overall happened.
00:31:31
Speaker
Yeah. Makes sense. Okay. So that was our number 13 on the list, which was World War II. Moving on to our number 12 on the list here, which was Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019.
00:31:44
Speaker
twenty nineteen ah So this one I had ranked number 10th. DLB you had at 16, so definitely weren't feeling that one. And then Hodge, you had it at number six, which was a very high rating actually.
00:31:57
Speaker
Hodge, why don't you start us off here? Yeah, this was Return to Infinity Ward doing what they do best. But, of course, I was i ah i was always kind of bummed that they were basically rebooting what the best trilogy, in my opinion, of Call of Duty was.
00:32:13
Speaker
That they were kind of using the name to go back to, like, hey, Mamba. And so it was... But then when the beta came out, I really enjoyed it. The campaign came out. I don't remember too much about it. I just remember it was really well acted and it was like fun.
00:32:30
Speaker
i And like I said, i remember this was the first one where when I was looking at like the graphics of it, I was like, damn, this looks really good. Like they're really going into making this more cinematic than other call. Cause other call of duties were more like Michael Bay, wet dreams. And now this one looked a little more cinematic than,
00:32:50
Speaker
than that so i remember really enjoying that but this was the most i put into a uh multiplayer for call of duty since black ops 2 which was seven years prior so i just really remember enjoying this one with again with friends i i was playing this one with a lot of friends and yeah it was awesome and i thought it was going to be a nice start to a new trilogy which you I ended up, honestly, I didn't think the rest of the trilogy went very well.
00:33:20
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ah So it was just kind of a good one-off and I enjoyed it and I thought, oh, maybe Infinity Ward is back to being great. And I mean, none of those studios are really great anymore, I guess, but Yeah, I just I enjoyed it. I thought it was good compared to some what especially what happened in the seven years prior. I didn't like any of those really. So I thought it was like a decent return, not to the peaks of, of you know, prior to, to you know, 2012. But I thought it I thought it was good for what it was. And I enjoyed it at the time. And so, yeah, I liked it. So, i yeah, I had it at six, I guess. I don't remember.
00:33:54
Speaker
Okay, I do want to make a slight correction here. um Again, I apologize. I said that this was the number 12 game. um That's not entirely correct. This is actually tied 10th place. and We have a three-way tie ah for 10th place. So there's three games that we all had the exact same score, which was 32, averaged out 10, 16, and 6. So Modern Warfare 2019 is tied for 10th with the next two games.
00:34:19
Speaker
um But yeah, DLB, what are your thoughts on Modern Warfare 2019? So, theoretically, Modern Warfare 2019 is an amazing Call of Duty.
00:34:31
Speaker
It takes everything we like from some of the original games, like COD4, things like that, brought it back to new gen, to more the recent games, and kind of brought that whole feeling back.
00:34:42
Speaker
The guns were great. Killstreaks were great. The only problem is that that is that it brought something into the recent Call of Duties that is just the... bane of Call of Duty now, and that is skill-based matchmaking.
00:34:54
Speaker
So if you're a good player, if you're someone like me going into that game, I went into it, I played it, you know, first few matches, they were good, they were fun. But then I started noticing a trend as I got better and started playing more is that, man, this game is kind of hard.
00:35:12
Speaker
And I've never been bad at Call of Duty. And then I just kept playing and kept noticing that I feel like this game is so punishing me somehow. And then that's when the whole skill-based matchmaking thing, people started finding out what Activision was doing with that.
00:35:27
Speaker
And once i I understood that there was a name for what I was feeling, it completely turned me off of this game. And it just, it really put a sour taste in my mouth. And really, this is when I started falling out of love with Call of Duty, was when skill-based matchmaking got introduced and really just...
00:35:46
Speaker
made this game become a job for me. And that's one of the reasons why i still kind of have a love-hate relationship with it is because it's it's not a game anymore. It's not fun anymore, at least not 100% of the time.
00:35:59
Speaker
It's just work. And I don't want to work after I get off from work. I feel that. Yeah. ah Skill-based matchmaking, of course, is is a thing that I hate as well.
00:36:10
Speaker
um It has really been around since Black Ops 2. Black Ops 2 was when I really first noticed. I had a video on my YouTube channel about like, at David Vonderhaar, stop skill-based matchmaking and stuff. But um They really cranked it up to 11 with this game. Like, cause before that it was just like minor skill based matchmaking. Like it was a little sweaty, but it wasn't too bad. Like you still got like some pretty easy lobbies and it was still fun and there was a variance.
00:36:32
Speaker
um But yeah, they really protect, really perfected the craft big time with this game and after it, like, it's engineered perfectly like almost every single lobby almost everybody's going like a 1kd or a 1.3 kd at the best maybe um and just people have tons of deaths and like it's just it's not very fun i don't think personally but also hate that they added doors on the maps they put doors on everything which just made it super campy like you'd have to bust through the door and there'd be someone in a corner ready to shoot you as soon as you open the door and
00:37:03
Speaker
ah There was that famous clip ah that 402 Thunder on YouTube used to have. It was from this game where it was like a dude trying to cross the street on the map. And I swear this dude, he looks, he takes like two minutes to cross the street. He looks everywhere like two times. He's like, nobody there, nobody there, nobody there, nobody there, nobody there, nobody there.
00:37:21
Speaker
He's like, all right, fine. As soon as he starts running, he gets sniped by a dude that was in a window that he couldn't see ah because the dude was like in the window, but like back enough to where he could. It was just ridiculous. Yeah. It was just really hard to rush or play aggressively in that game because it was just mad campy.
00:37:37
Speaker
But all right, we satisfied on that one? We can move on? I mean, that's that's that's Call of Duty in general is camping. Yeah. But actually, it's funny that you guys talk about skill-based matchmaking. I never really noticed it. I just always thought I had good games and bad games kind of thing.
00:37:52
Speaker
But the first time I noticed skill-based matchmaking was actually i was dating a girl. What was this? Two, three years ago or something. And she played Halo.
00:38:03
Speaker
And I would remember i'd always I'd hop online and join her while she was playing. I'd hop into her game. And I would join and go like... like legit, like five, 6.0 kill death ratio. Oh, midnight. Just we lost midnight.
00:38:17
Speaker
ah It's still recording. He'll join back in. um And I was, I was dating this girl and I would, I just absolutely smoke home go like 30 and two or something in their lobbies. And then the next game I'd go back to basically going even. And so that was the first time I noticed it because I'd be joining her lot. Cause she wasn't very good.
00:38:37
Speaker
So I'd be joining her lobbies and just dominating and then going back into a new lobby and and getting, I was like, oh, so yeah, skill base is a thing. I was playing against horrible people and then we it would even out one time we go to the next game.
00:38:52
Speaker
Okay, and we're back. Hopefully my internet doesn't die again. It just straight up completely died. Like I lost connection to everything for like a minute and then it came back, but all right. So that was Modern Warfare 2019 was the one we did.
00:39:06
Speaker
So the next game, which was also tied for 10th, was Modern Warfare 2 2022. um So, you know, sequels down the road here. it 13. DLB, you had at 8.
00:39:18
Speaker
Hodge, you had it at 11. That's a total score of 32. Lower is better. um This game here, I barely played this one as well. I don't have much to add. This was another situation where I thought that the game sucked.
00:39:29
Speaker
ah The skill-based matchmaking was super oppressive. Like I wasn't having a good time. The maps were too chaotic. I was getting shot from everywhere. um I didn't think the maps were well laid out. And I just didn't have a great time. So I'll just keep it short and brief.
00:39:43
Speaker
um DLB, you had it number eight. What did you think of this one? Top 10 Call of Duty, solid game. Modern Warfare 2 one of the better recent CODs that that have come out So...
00:39:57
Speaker
Give some backstory on this one. This game started out as absolute garbage. So they changed the way that perks work. So instead of just starting out with perks and like pretty much every other Call of Duty at the beginning of the game, you actually had to earn your perks over the course of time. So if you had like ghosts or something on, you wouldn't earn that probably until like, what?
00:40:19
Speaker
three minutes into the game so this made something like a uab basically a blackbird so if you had a uab no one would have ghosts at the beginning of the game so it was just ridiculously op so what happened at the beginning was that you would run into parties basically all running uab's so whoever got one first it was just over it was a wrap and it was one of the most dumb mechanics i have ever seen in a call of duty game Fortunately, a few months down the road, they fixed that to where you still had to earn it, but it happened so much faster.
00:40:52
Speaker
And I think they made some changes to some of the guns as well. But solid Call a Duty after that. Once they made some of those patches, cleaned that mechanic up. I mean, the gunplay was was decent. You can make some really nice customizations there.
00:41:04
Speaker
ah The maps were decent. Killstreaks were decent. I remember having a lot of high kill games on this one. um I mean, overall, skill based matchmaking was still a thing, but I could do well enough to where, you know, I could carry like some of the older college. So, um you know, they would force me to put the team on my back. But I was actually able to do it in this game. So honestly, solid top top 10. Like I said, pretty good game.
00:41:31
Speaker
Yeah. hoj What did you think about this one here? Yeah, i'm trying I'm pulling up my thing to see how much game but time I had. this and This is one of those where i liked it, but i remember it was one that I'd have long gaps between hopping in with my friends. Like we'd play for like a week and then just drop it for like a month and then we'd come back.
00:41:49
Speaker
And I remember enjoying this one overall, but it wasn't one that like completely stuck out to me. Where did I have this one ranked? You said? 11. 11, yeah. So it was yeah a little middle of a pack. i i wrote There was nothing that was offensive to me about this, but I do remember when Call Duty switched from just kills to like a point you know system of getting your kill streaks, and i always...
00:42:15
Speaker
I understood it because like getting assists, you know, adding to it. If someone steals your kill, it's kind of sucks if you don't get your you know point towards your kill streak because someone stole your kill kind of thing. But yeah, it was like, especially yeah a timer version of it. it's It's just bad. But other than that, yeah, I remember this game.
00:42:33
Speaker
I didn't play the campaign despite liking the 2019 one. I was like, i don't know. It's just... Because, I mean, like, OG Modern Warfare 2, it's like no Russian. like that Like, that kind of stuff. It's, you know, very iconic. But there was nothing in this one that was iconic. So, it I just ah just never felt the need to play it. and But I enjoyed the multiplayer this one. So, yeah, it was very it was a good game.
00:42:56
Speaker
But it wasn't one that I was, like, screaming from the rooftops. Like, everyone should play this one. It was it was just it was good. I like this one. and Okay. Sounds good.
00:43:06
Speaker
um Let's see here. So the next game that we had here was the last one that was tied um to my dismay because this I liked a lot, but this was Black Ops 3. Call the Duty Black Ops 3 was my number seven Call of Duty of all time.
00:43:23
Speaker
DLB, you had it as your nine Call a Duty overtime, but then Hodge had at 16, completely screwed up the rankings here. So that's a 32 total. ah Thanks a lot, Hodge. This game, I thought it was awesome.
00:43:35
Speaker
ah Yes, it was jetpacks and we didn't want jetpacks. We wanted them to get the jetpacks. But this was jetpacks done right. um The jetpacks were not really all that chaotic. You could boost in the air, but you couldn't really go side to side. It was just like one direction.
00:43:49
Speaker
It also was somewhat slower. So if people were in the air, it was still pretty easy to shoot them. Like it wasn't really bad at all. um The maps in this game, it really had some awesome maps. Many, many great maps. um They also had some great kill streaks in this too, which put in a lot of work.
00:44:03
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure this was the first game where they did the specialist too. um So like as you got kills and as time progressed, all of a sudden you could use like a super ability, which was always fun too. At the time, I wasn't a massive fan of that because I'm like, what are they doing? But it was fun though, like in a total chaos way.
00:44:18
Speaker
But yeah, Black Ops 3, I thought was definitely a top 10 Call of Duty. I have it at number seven. DLB, you had it at nine. ah Talk about this one here. Good enough to be top 10, but on the back end, I mean, everything about what you said, I mean, it's pretty much how I felt the the kill streets were good. The guns were pretty good.
00:44:39
Speaker
um I didn't really like Specialist, like you said, but it it wasn't overbearing in this one or anything like that. I think the movement is just what kind of killed it for me again.
00:44:50
Speaker
i mean, i wanted basically a Black Ops 2 sequel ah with hardly we anything changed. And with the movement there, it kind of messed that up for me. um So overall, I mean, solid game. i don't really have too much more to add.
00:45:04
Speaker
Just I don't like jetpacks. Right. I hear you. Hodge, why did you ruin the rankings with a you headed at 16? What what i was wrong with it? I didn't like this one at all.
00:45:15
Speaker
i I so Black Ops one was like the back in time old classic war characters. kind of era. And then two that was to the one that was a split between some missions were past somewhere future kind of thing.
00:45:30
Speaker
And so it was a little split like that. And then three was just straight up future. And again, i do not like that era of call duty. If I want to play a sci-fi shooter, i'm going to play halo or Titanfall like, or apex or something. I'm going to play those. If I want that call of duty, I want a down to earth,
00:45:48
Speaker
Ish. I mean, as much Call Duty can be down to earth. I want that experience from it. And so jetpacks, all that crap. I just did not like this one at all. And so I fell off of it almost immediately.
00:46:00
Speaker
i got it because like, I know it's going to be very high ranked as Black Ops 2 is like beloved across the board. And don't spoil your review of that yet. Yeah, and they so they decided, um'm just saying, obviously, because based on where we are on the list now, um it's going to be higher up, obviously, because we haven't talked about it.
00:46:18
Speaker
yeah And so i it just wasn't that. And i just it was such a colossal letdown for me that i just have a just there's a spite in in me for this game that I just never got over. So I just do not like this game.
00:46:36
Speaker
Gotcha. Yeah, it definitely wasn't as good as Black Ops 2, which we'll get to later, of course. um But yeah, I think definitely, like I said, the best of the jetpacks, but guess that's not saying a ton. so ah So that was the last game that was tied for 10th. We are now going to move on to the number nine game of all time, the ninth best, and that was Black Ops Cold War.
00:46:56
Speaker
This one here, I added at 14. Did not like this game. DLB, you had it 11. You didn't like this game too much. Hodge, you had it at five. This was your fifth best Call of Duty of all time.
00:47:08
Speaker
ah Tell us why, sir. Uh, so it's fifth because I don't like the campaign. I gave up on it pretty quick. Uh, I guess it was another one where there's a hub. ah don't need a hub world in call duty. Just have the dude with the overview being like, all right, you guys are going to go in this building and but ah just give me that shit. I don't need a hub world.
00:47:26
Speaker
Uh, so I didn't like that, but I loved the multiplayer for this game. I got it. Actually, it was another one where I only bought it because it was a launch game for the Xbox Series X and PS5.
00:47:38
Speaker
So I bought it purely because it was a launch game. But I ended up playing the ever loving shit out of this game multiplayer with my cousin. Me and him played it constantly. We had, i think.
00:47:49
Speaker
almost all of the golden weapons for this gun because we put so much time into this into this multiplayer ah before Black Ops 6 came out last year, actually, because as you guys know, Call of Duty is basically like an overarching game that you have installed now when you can install the sub Call Duty's in it.
00:48:07
Speaker
yeah And so we saw that black ah Cold War was in it and and we wanted to hop into it because we were waiting for Cold War or Black Ops 6 because this is technically a Black Ops game.
00:48:18
Speaker
And so we were waiting for that. So we went back to this one last year and it was just as fun as I remember it. So I have, I absolutely love playing this one multiplayer and that's why I have it ranked so high ah because in the end, most Call of Duties, I don't have any reverence for the single player campaigns. I just don't care about the majority of them.
00:48:39
Speaker
And so this one was all multiplayer all day and I played the ever loving shit out of this one and loved every moment of it. Okay. Yeah, I didn't like this game. I barely played it, so I don't have much to add. i just It didn't hook me.
00:48:52
Speaker
um I thought that it was very mid. I thought the maps sucked at launch. like There was only one or two maps that I actually enjoyed playing. um They did add a bunch of old like Black Ops 2 and other maps later on, which I'm sure made it better, but by that point, I had moved on.
00:49:06
Speaker
DLB, you had it at number 11 on your list. What are your thoughts? Awesome. ah Another game where skill-based matchmaking kind made it tough for me to play. um Really, really got difficult sometimes, especially with how the mats were laid out. Like you said, I didn't really think they were that good.
00:49:22
Speaker
But there was one gameplay component that really just killed this game for me. It would have been much higher without this. So ah the scorestreaks in this game, if you were remember, you didn't actually have to go on a streak. So it really just built ah over time.
00:49:38
Speaker
And you basically never lost it. If you went on streaks, then it would build up faster. um So it basically made it to where there were some streaks you could pretty much anyone could get if you were in the game long enough.
00:49:49
Speaker
And there was one streak called Air Patrol. Um, that was really the one reason I just hated this game. So what air patrol did, and remember you, no one could use a loser street. So pretty much anyone could get air patrol at some point in the game and you could hold Um, all you had to do air patrol would just take out any streak that was in the air.
00:50:10
Speaker
So if I did good and got like the highest streak in the game and I sent it out there, some dude who didn't even go on a streak, who's like 15 and 15 could put out air patrol and my high end streak is just gone.
00:50:24
Speaker
That just healed any, any hope this game had of being my top list. And I hated that mechanic. I had to stop this game. You are not going to make me work through skill-based matchmaking and then slap me in the face when some dude who can barely go even is taking my stuff out of the air. I can't can't stand that in Call it Duty and that's why it's low for me.
00:50:47
Speaker
Yeah, that that doesn't feel good when you earn a and big streak and you're excited and then it does nothing. It just gets instantly destroyed. That's a feels bad, man. Moment right there. Yeah. All right. Yeah.
00:50:59
Speaker
ah Really quick. I, um this game also, i feel I remember it so well because i got a elite controller for this one. It was the first Call of Duty I ever got an elite controller for, or I didn't get it for this, but was the first one I had one with.
00:51:16
Speaker
And I remember I'm not as good as Call Duty at Call of Duty's you guys. I usually sit around like a 1-5-2 kill-death ratio. So like I'm okay, but not amazing.
00:51:27
Speaker
But I remember when this game came out, had like a 0.8 or something. A really bad kill-death ratio. And then I got the elite to where I could shorten the trigger pull and it instantly went up to like a 1-5 because I was able to it fire the weapon quicker and get more kills. And so I just remember having, because the best, the best I've ever been at call duty was cod for, was very good at that game, surprisingly.
00:51:49
Speaker
And so I loved that game. And then this was the first one where I felt like, Oh, I'm actually doing pretty good. Like I'm actually enjoying, I'm having fun. Cause I'm not going, you know, 17 and 15, every game, like I'm actually doing, doing pretty good. So I really liked it for that.
00:52:03
Speaker
And I think this game is the one that my cousin who I always play with, he went, He had one game where he went 125-2. And so that one that was ah that was awesome.
00:52:14
Speaker
I just remember being in that game like, how do you have so many kills? This is insane. What are you doing? But it was awesome. But, yeah, I like this one. so That is a really good game, yeah.
00:52:26
Speaker
Yeah, it was crazy. All right, moving on to the next on the list. We have two games which are tied for number seven. ah The first one, which we'll go over, was Call of Duty Vanguard.
00:52:37
Speaker
um i had this at number 15. I did not like this game. I had it way down the list. DLB, you had it at four. So we were not on the same page here. That's a big variance. Hodge, you had it at eight. So you're in the middle there.
00:52:50
Speaker
um DLB, why was this your number four cod of all time? Vanguard. because it's the best of the recent CODs. Hands down, it's the best of the recent ones that have come out since 2019.
00:53:02
Speaker
um So Vanguard, some of the best customizations you could get for a weapon. ah One thing I loved about this game is that you you had to grind, but once you did grind and get that weapon to the top level, it just completely transformed into some OP god gun. It was amazing.
00:53:22
Speaker
Killstreaks were great. um I love how they they changed the multiplayer so you had like, you could do like 6v6, but you could also go into bigger group battles and ah get that, you know, that old school ground war 9v9 so I could build. Very smooth game.
00:53:37
Speaker
And then there was also They have like these special abilities, but one of them was like some sort of extra perk or something that it would let you keep a streak even if you died. ah So you could die one time while you had your streak and you would still be able to keep it.
00:53:52
Speaker
That was a game changer for me. um We all know in Call Duty, there's so many garbage deaths that you can get sometimes, just so much random stuff that flies in your face.
00:54:03
Speaker
And being able to avoid that for at least one time and say, wow, I can actually keep my streak and I die to a dude who's just spamming a shotgun all in the map. I mean, it's it was great for me. So skill-based matchmaking was actually toned down. i have seen some evidence that it was toned down for this game compared to some of the other recent ones.
00:54:21
Speaker
um But just just an all-around really good game. I got a bunch of nukes on this one as well. ah Fantastic game. nothing Nothing really bad to say about it. some of the Some of the weapon ah balancing kind of got out of hand after a while. But overall, really good game.
00:54:38
Speaker
Yeah, Hodge, you had it at number eight. ah Why is that? So I'm actually very happy you said that ah because I always felt I was crazy for a saying I like this one because I feel like it's like the very common sentiment of like, oh, it's one of the worst Call Duties ever made. I'm like, I really liked this one, actually. And i remember because so I'm looking at the what what came out. Like i said, I got Cold War because it was a launch title.
00:55:04
Speaker
I got Modern Warfare because it was... um it was the return to modern warfare laps blocks forward and care world war two didn't care infinite warfare didn't care three advanced ghosts didn't care about any them so i was kind of in my lull of call of duty where i was like very eh it's fine kind of whatever and i went out to dinner with some friends i didn't uh, own it.
00:55:25
Speaker
And I went out to dinner. We, uh, there's a Mexican joint. We always go to it on Fridays. They have cheap marks, uh, pitchers of margaritas. So we had about four of those. And, uh, my buddies just, two of my buddies are like, we're playing Vanguard tonight. And i was like, I don't want to come on. I want to play call dude. Let's play something else.
00:55:42
Speaker
I'm like, just go home and download it. I was like, fine. And I go home and it's on sale. So i'm like, all right, you guys are lucky it's on sale and I'm drunk. So I'm feeling happy and I'll do it. Um, so I download it and I, I instantly loved it. i was like, this game is really fun. Like, why is this game getting so much shit? And so I played it and only put, we only, it was a very quick, like most call duties with us. It was a very quick, like love affair where we played it for probably two or three months, like obsessively. And then,
00:56:10
Speaker
fell off, but I really liked it. I still have very good memories of a lot of the maps. The weapons were fun. Again, I had the elite controller. So especially in a World War II game where a lot of weapons are single fire, having that quick trigger pull makes it very easy to kill people.
00:56:26
Speaker
ah So like a DMR kind of weapon, very easy to kill people with it. So I i had a lot of fun. I was actually pretty good at it. as It must've been, like you said, the skill base must've been tone down a little bit. So i was, I was doing much better in this game than I thought I would be doing. But ah yeah, I just really, and this is the only sledgehammer game that I'm like, pretty good.
00:56:47
Speaker
I'm happy you guys made this one because there are other games, advanced warfare. Nope. World War II. Nope. Modern Warfare three. Nope. So this is like the one sledgehammer game that I'm like, all right, you guys, you guys did good. And yeah, I really, really enjoyed this game. So I'm happy. I'm not the only one crazy enough to think that about this game.
00:57:05
Speaker
Still the same. Never thought I'd meet another Vanguard lover. That's crazy. Yeah. i yeah yeah I really like this one. So, yeah. Yeah. Maybe I didn't give this game enough of a chance. I don't know. This is another one that I dropped pretty quickly um because I was like, it's just going to be more COD BS. I tried out the beta.
00:57:23
Speaker
I wasn't really feeling the maps that I played on. Like I played ah on that decoy map, which was probably the best one, but was still... trash because people were always camping in the in the buildings and you could destroy the walls and stuff and the floor.
00:57:35
Speaker
ah Then there was that Demanski one, which was like that snowy church map, which sucked. um The only map that I actually kind of enjoyed was Eagle's Nest, but it was also super campy because dudes would just camp the hallways and the windows.
00:57:47
Speaker
um So yeah, I just, I don't, I wasn't feeling it, but I don't think I gave it enough of a chance. So it might be better, but I had it 15. yeah. um Moving on to the other game that was tied seventh, and that was Call of Duty Black Ops 4.
00:58:02
Speaker
Black Ops 4, believe it or not, I rated a five. It was my fifth favorite. DLB, you gave it a seven. And Hodge, you hated it it. You gave it a 15. So you and I traded places on these games.
00:58:13
Speaker
Hodge, why does this game suck ass? You had it at fifteenth I just remember, I mean, maybe I'm misremembering this one, but isn't this the one that they didn't have a campaign and they introduced Battle Royale?
00:58:24
Speaker
Yes. They had Blackout. Okay. So that's exactly why. i It was, like I said, i did not like 3, Black Ops 3 at all. And so 4 was just continuation. And then they removed the campaign and then they were like, Battle Royale, we're doing it. And now I want to say I was probably playing Fortnite at the time. I don't know. But I was like...
00:58:43
Speaker
ah I played a couple rounds when it was in beta, and I was just like, it just doesn't... It's really not that I'm rating it low because I hated it. It's just it didn't appeal to me at all, and I did not play it at all. So it's just so out of my mind. like I always forget that this is even a game that existed because it felt like...
00:59:03
Speaker
It felt like so just an experiment from them rather than a game. Like, it didn't feel like a full release. It felt like a, like a, we're going to try this. You want to play it? Try it. And and so it just, it's just so forget. It's the only more forgettable game than this is ghost and kind of for me in World War II. But yeah, I don't know. It's, it's really not one that I, I dislike. It's just,
00:59:26
Speaker
it was the It was a path that I was afraid of that Call of Duty was going to start going down, where it was like, no more campaigns, it's just a multiplayer shooter, and we're going to join in on the Battle Royale craze. And so it's just it just left a bad taste my mouth for that. But yeah, i don't really I don't hate this one by any stretch. It's just I don't really care about it.
00:59:45
Speaker
and Okay. Yeah, I had this at five. um This is one of my favorite Call of Duties, surprisingly, apparently based on this ranking. um But I really enjoyed this game. I thought this game was it kind of reminds me of the original Modern Warfare 2 and that it's broken, but it's fun. Like it's chaos, but it's fun.
01:00:05
Speaker
Like they they went so overboard with the specialist abilities in this. Like some of them were so OP p and busted um that if you abused it, it was just a blast. I remember for a long time because I was fed up with the skill based matchmaking. You know, I was like, you know what? I'm just going to embrace the cheese.
01:00:20
Speaker
So I remember I broke out. They had that one class where you had the shield that had like a guardian in it. Remember that? So it was a shield that also had that microwave beam that would slow people. um And I just remember setting that up in like choke points or in stairs and stuff. And then I'd be camping behind it with an AR or a shotgun um and just going on crazy streaks because people kept running up there trying to kill me and I would just mess them up.
01:00:41
Speaker
And I would get so many streaks doing that. It was so much fun. I feel like the skill based matchmaking was actually very released or at least in the end of this game's life cycle and when it wasn't the main COD and when we went back.
01:00:53
Speaker
Actually, the problem that we had was we were getting too many streaks. Um, I remember I was getting annoyed because like we would all have like snipers nest and we would all have like guardian helicopters and stuff at the same time. And you could only call one.
01:01:04
Speaker
So of like airspace crowded, airspace crowded, airspace crowded. Um, And this game too, one thing that annoyed me is that there wasn't a queue system. So you couldn't just call in your sniper's nest and it would be queued up and it would be the next one. No, you had to actually wait.
01:01:17
Speaker
So I remember like constantly we would be competing for who was going to be able to call in their sniper's nest or their helicopter first as soon as the last one left the map. um Because we were just we were just going in on this. ah So many kills, so many streaks.
01:01:30
Speaker
um It was just pure chaos, but it was actually a lot of fun and I enjoyed it. even It was cheese, but it was good cheese. DLB, what do you think? You added a seven.
01:01:41
Speaker
I'm kind of like you. i think this would be higher on my list. It would probably be top five, except it got too cheesy for me. I couldn't keep up like you did. So um yeah, the specialist got way overpowered after a few months. I know they had this zero specialist that basically you didn't even have to do anything. It was on a timer, right? So after a certain amount of time, basically EMP, no killstreaks. That's annoying to me. And then They started doing like these. I don't know if you remember. it was like these weapon drops or something.
01:02:11
Speaker
So it and a lot of the newer guns that came into ah the game, they were like really OP. um And I believe there was ways like you could pay to get more more rolls or more chances of getting the gun or something like that. So, um yeah, it just became little bit pay to win.
01:02:29
Speaker
And I really didn't like that. um So, yeah, first few months, great game. It probably would be top five if it stayed the way it was at the beginning. But then over time, just the cheese took over.
01:02:41
Speaker
Couldn't really do it with it anymore. Yeah, i remember this game, like, it kind of was in phases. It's like when the game first came out for the first, like, three, four months, I had a blast and it was great. And then Zero came out and Zero ruined the game for me because she countered the the shield that I like to abuse. She completely countered it Like, she would completely destroy the shield and it was completely irrelevant.
01:03:02
Speaker
So my cheese fun was completely ruined by her. ah But she didn't just ruin my cheese. She ruined everybody's fun because if you had any killstreak, she was just going to EMP and destroy it all instantly. um So it kind of sucked and I quit the game when zero came out and then we came back at the very end or we came back when the next COD was out like after when it wasn't the current COD and you go back and play it and that's when I had a lot of fun again ah because you just get like, you know, very loose lax lobbies and just get a tons of streaks and not everybody was using zero back at that point anymore.
01:03:31
Speaker
ah so yeah, but zero ruined it for me for a time. um All right, let's move on. Shall we? Number six, we're getting to the top now. These are all good Call of Duties now. So at number six, we had Call of Duty World at War from 2008. I had this at number eight.
01:03:48
Speaker
ah Debo, you had it at 13. And Hodge, you had it at number three. Number three caught of all time. So you got and start us off, Hodge. Why was this your number three favorite? Zombies, baby! introduced the great zombie mode back when it was actually called Nazi Zombies.
01:04:07
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um But actually, it's not even just that. ah the The story mode, I remember it just being fine. This was back when I still obviously played the campaigns as they came out. Uh, it was, it was good. it wasn't great, but I liked it, but I actually really liked the multiplayer of this game too. It had really fun streaks like the
Nostalgia and Multiplayer Stories
01:04:25
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dogs. If you heard dogs barking, you're like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. Gotta start aiming around where are those dogs coming from.
01:04:31
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And, uh, yeah, the multiplayer was a blast, but obviously, ah like I said, zombies is, I remember, so obviously, you know, I wasn't a cool kid back in high school on every,
01:04:42
Speaker
On the weekends, it would be me being up till two, three in the morning playing zombies with my buddies, just just trying to survive as long as you can. Bro, I got Raygun. Please let me up. like just it was i And of course, obviously, it came out between...
01:04:59
Speaker
uh, Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2. So it had that hype of it just being like, you know, this is peak Call of Duty right now because COD 4 was so good. But yeah, I just, I really liked it because Modern Warfare was fun for, I mean, like I said, it obviously hasn't been said yet, so it's going to be on there.
01:05:15
Speaker
But, uh, going back to the World War II and having that setting still, but it's still being basically, because COD 4 revolutionized obviously Call Duty, but World at War, It had that gameplay and finesse of four, but it was back to the OG Call Duty formula of it being World War two And I just I loved everything about this game.
01:05:37
Speaker
I genuinely don't dislike anything about this game other than, like I said, maybe the campaign wasn't, you know, amazing by any stretch, but it wasn't bad. So I just I loved every moment this game. Nazi zombies and multiplayer were both awesome. And yeah, I love this game. So don't know where Midnight went. So D. Well, if you want to go.
01:05:55
Speaker
Yeah. um So I'm probably really skewing the rankings on this one because this is one of the, I think it may be the only one where I don't even know if I'm placed. Uh, it may, if I do, it's probably less than like, yeah, maybe like less than an hour of playtime.
01:06:13
Speaker
So midnight made me rank this, even though I was trying to do an NA because like, I, I really can't even say anything about it. Um, yeah, I really just skipped this one pretty much. So I don't really have too much to add.
01:06:25
Speaker
So I'm sorry for messing up the rankings here. You should be sorry. i can't believe why didn't you i don't can't believe you didn't play this game. like COD 4 was so good and you didn't even want to try the sequel?
01:06:36
Speaker
You were just too addicted to COD 4? Well, these came out at a weird time. was like... But it was like the beginning of high school for me. And I think we probably played COD 4 a lot. wasn't.
01:06:48
Speaker
Call it Duty to me then, it wasn't really like something I was just playing all the time at that point. So, I mean, I think that's why I just skipped But yeah, I really did not play this game, so I can't even really speak to it.
01:07:02
Speaker
All right. Well, then we won't. um Yeah, I guess i ah I'll get a couple bars in here. So I thought this was a good game. um I really thought that this game had some good maps, some maps that weren't so good, um but it had some different classic maps on here for sure.
01:07:17
Speaker
um And what was awesome too about this game was it was the first time that they introduced the dogs. The dogs were a very fun streak. So you had UAV, you had the dogs, and then I think there was like an art. No, you had artillery Raj, I think, and then the dogs, if I'm remembering correctly.
01:07:33
Speaker
Um, the dogs were a seven streak. Um, it was a two hit kill. They didn't instantly kill you, which kind of sucks that you like you could survive the dogs, but they would do some work and it's just fun, man. Calling in dogs and having them running all around the the map, barking and attacking people. Like that's just good times. The chaos that ensues and you just know the enemy team is terrified.
01:07:51
Speaker
That just makes you feel good. I like that. Um, So yeah, this was a good game. The MP40 was completely busted. Everybody used the MP40. All the sweats did anyway. um It was completely busted. The hip fire on it was crazy too.
01:08:04
Speaker
um But yeah, overall, pretty good game. ah We are getting up to the big boys now. Let's go ahead move on to the
Modern Warfare 3: Features and Frustrations
01:08:11
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number five game. So we're at the top five Call of Duties of all time.
01:08:15
Speaker
Number five, Modern Warfare 3, the real one from 2011. I had this ranked sixth, DLB 5, Hodge 7. Aggregate score of 18 there.
01:08:26
Speaker
So yeah, this is our number five game. Modern Warfare 3. Talk to us about this one, Debo. Oh, really? Modern Warfare 3. Really, i i like what they did with it. I mean, some people might think it's a step back from...
01:08:40
Speaker
Modern Warfare 2, probably not what they really expected as as a sequel to that game, but overall, very just very fun. ah I think that's probably the first word that would come to mind.
01:08:52
Speaker
um so I know in this one they had three different streak setups, so you could either do, what was it, the assault, and it's like normal killstreaks. You had support, which you would still earn those if you died, and then it introduced specialists, which was really cool. You got the perks, you earn those as you...
01:09:08
Speaker
that you got kills. um And then you also have the Moab, which most people would go after using the the specialist setup. So I think that's really the Moab chasing is really what kind of made this game for me going after those and getting the perks, feeling like a super soldier, and then trying to see if I could just go on that run. That was really fun to me.
01:09:29
Speaker
um But yeah, just a a really, really good game. I mean, there's, you know Support was annoying. um You would have people who really weren't good at all who could take out your streaks or call in the, when we call it the no-skill multi-kill. No-skill multi-kill? Yeah, the air bomber.
01:09:47
Speaker
but we got the st all i mean Yeah, Overall, I mean, I think in the moment, I may not have really appreciated it as much because I think some of the games that came before it were good, but looking back now after...
01:10:02
Speaker
everything that's come out after it. Um, you know, I wish we could kind of get back to that because it, you know, and outside it really was a solid game. So good. Yeah. We really, I'm sorry.
01:10:14
Speaker
No, you're good Yeah. We really didn't appreciate this game as much as we should have because we were spoiled by the games that came before it. They were so good. like we, we were hating on this game a lot. We were like, we couldn't wait for black ops, uh, black ops two to come out. I remember. Cause we were like, this game is ass modern warfare three sucks.
01:10:30
Speaker
Uh, And the reason why we didn't like it was because of basically the support streaks um and the stealth bomber was one of the main things that we hated. um Like, I don't have a problem with a with little Timmy, you know, bad, bad player getting a ah ah fun streak. I don't mind that.
01:10:45
Speaker
But the thing that sucks is that if you're going for streaks and you die to their stealth bomber, it ends your streak. um So that's what would suck. Like you'd be working hard trying to get your high end assault streaks, trying to get your pay flow and your your VTOL warship or whatever, or whatever AC 130, whatever it was in that game.
01:11:00
Speaker
um And you'd be on a high streak. And then all of a sudden a stealth bomber comes in that some player who was like 12 and 26 got um and he kills you with the stealth bomber. And then there goes your streak.
01:11:11
Speaker
And that would just, that that sucked. That was annoying. um But I mean, this was a great game. It had amazing maps. It had awesome weapons. I mean, the ACR in that game was one of the most busted, flawless weapons of all time.
01:11:24
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um I did hear a rumor that the fad was was just as good, maybe almost, as the ACR. Not so in-depth. Yeah. That's a that's what's big ah inside joke right there.
01:11:36
Speaker
DLB made a video or about the fad. He's like, is it better than the ACR? question mark Like, no, it's not. But it was good, though. ah But yeah, the MP7 in that game was incredible.
01:11:47
Speaker
um like There was just so many games, especially with Specialist. When you got all those perks, you could just you felt like a god. And you could just gun people down. like No recoil, just pinpoint accuracy. um And I really thought this game was awesome. ah just we didn't We didn't appreciate as much as we should have.
01:12:01
Speaker
But it's good. And if they went back to a game like this now, I would be super excited. and Hodge, you had it at number seven. Talk to us about Modern Warfare 3. Yeah, this was like, it's kind of like what you guys are saying. It's like, you don't know what you have until it's gone kind of thing. And because I remember Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2 were just peak. And then this one comes out and it's a little bit of a letdown.
01:12:25
Speaker
I thought the campaign wrapped everything up pretty nicely. But ah multiplayer, it was just it was very good. It was very fun. But i have have i have very ah I have very big, ah clear memories of me and my friends playing Modern Warfare 3 and at one point just being like,
01:12:44
Speaker
guys want to load up modern warfare one and and we just stopped playing three and we went back to playing one because it was just so much more fun and but yeah i this game was very good and i enjoyed it but yeah it like you said it was like at the time you're kind of like it you know it's fine but then looking back like it's way better than the shit we're getting now like i would take modern warfare three over any of these games we're getting now and Yeah, it was it was it was a great game. But yeah, it's just but it's kind of yeah, it's the you don't know what you have till it's gone kind of thing. And yeah, it was good.
01:13:18
Speaker
Yeah, we were spoiled by the four games that we're about to get to that were just a little bit better or a lot bit better. So with that, let's go ahead and move on to number four here. Now, this one is going to piss DLB off, I know, ah because his favorite Call of Duty of all time is Black Ops 2.
01:13:35
Speaker
But guess what? It's number four on our list here because of Hodge. So Black Ops 2, I had it as my number two. It's my two favorite number two favorite game.
01:13:46
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D.O.B. has it as his number one. And then Hodge had it at rank 14. The 14th best Call of Duty of all time was Black Ops 2. um Hodge, explain yourself, please, sir.
01:13:57
Speaker
Yeah. I don't like futuristic shit. I've talked about it. hi And this one, it started splitting it where it was going between past and future. And I don't like the future aspect of it. And it just made me flaccid.
01:14:12
Speaker
And so i just... It's like... like like i I might have been too harsh on it. I probably was too harsh on it. But I just... Black Ops 1 was so good.
01:14:25
Speaker
and that black So Black Ops 2, when it's just like... It jumped to this having the future stuff. I was like, why? Look how they massacred my boy. Like, I just... it it it It hurt me. It made me sad on the inside. So I don't know. It's like it's definitely not a bad game, especially like we said.
01:14:42
Speaker
You don't know what you have until you're gone. like It is a phenomenal game, especially compared to what we have now. But it's just I don't – I hate futuristic shit in Call Duty, and it just angers me when I think about it. So I just – out of spite, I put it – I ranked it – I probably – if I redid my list today, i probably wouldn't have let ranked it that low. That was probably a little too harsh, but – Yeah, yeah i just I just don't like futuristic shit and it angers me. So I
Defending Black Ops 2
01:15:10
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spite ranked it low.
01:15:12
Speaker
Yeah. Well, this game would have been the number...
01:15:20
Speaker
two game. Now, it would have been the number one game, I think, actually, if it was just you and I, DLB. But because Hodge was in here with the 14th, it's at number four. I think you were way too harsh on this, personally. I mean, you had Ghost, and you had Modern Warfare 2 2022, and Modern Warfare 3 2023 higher than this, which is crazy to me. But hey, to each their own. and Black Ops 2 had some of the best maps in the history of Call of Duty, and we're talking about Raid, Slums.
01:15:46
Speaker
um Let me pull it up here. Standoff. Like, What were the Black Ops 2 maps? I'm trying to Black Ops 2 maps. and Are you oh and so you guys no word blanking on it too?
01:16:02
Speaker
I don't know. So after I stopped, Cargo was great. Carrier is great. ah Drone was good. Express was amazing. The train map, awesome for search and destroy too.
01:16:13
Speaker
Hijacked on the ship. Everyone loves that. I didn't like it too much. it was a bit chaotic, but it was fun. ah Meltdown was awesome. Overflow was was good. Plaza was great.
01:16:24
Speaker
Raid was what the best Call Duty map of all time. ah Number one map of all time, in my opinion, Raid. Slums incredible. like Raid, yeah. Standoff was incredible. Turbine was okay.
01:16:35
Speaker
Yemen was eh. Nuketown was good. So, like, some of the best maps of all time, just very solid. The Streaks, oh my god, the Streaks, man. The Swarm, if you got a Swarm, dude, the Swarm would get you 20 kills. Like, it would just go in. It was just...
01:16:48
Speaker
Just famous Amos like the cookies. Yum, yum, yum. Yum, yum. As Mark and Jay would say. ah But yeah, this game also had amazing search and destroy game battles too. ah Very fun on these maps.
01:16:59
Speaker
um Deebo, talk to us. This was your number one game, Black Ops 2. Yeah, because it's the greatest Call of Duty of all time. Like you said, the maps, but skill streaks, score streaks, the absolute best score streaks of any Call of Duty.
01:17:16
Speaker
Dogs, Swarm, Lodestar, just the the variety of different streaks that were so good. Yeah, V-SAT, just so, so great. You never got locked into running like the same three streaks every single game because there was just so much good to choose from.
01:17:32
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um This game introduced scorestreak, so you got points for like actually playing the objective, which was huge for a lot of COD players. um Oh, man, Ground War, playing Raid all the time. So many just great memories of this game. I think I had, what, like four months played, which is just insane.
01:17:51
Speaker
um But, man, started YouTube around this time, too, so that's one of the reasons why it's just... It's just a nostalgia bomb for me. It was so, so good. But if you ever want to feel old, I mean, I know we talked about this being somewhat futuristic, but the futuristic part of this game, which actually set in 2025. So ah kind of weird there with it being this year. But I mean, overall, there's just there's not much bad I can even say about this game. If they just released a a remake of Black Ops 2 every single year, I would buy it.
01:18:26
Speaker
would. a I can't even lie. I would play it so much more. i wish it was still online without cheaters, without anything. There is no other Call of Duty that I would choose before this one.
01:18:39
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And
The Legacy of Call of Duty 4
01:18:40
Speaker
it's it's my absolute favorite. All right. Good stuff. Well, we have three games which are better than it, according to our consensus rank. So let's go and move on.
01:18:50
Speaker
At number three... What? You got something to add? I was going to say that that that's that's why I love doing these consensus kind of lists because it does it's always going to bother someone when something's ranked because that's how I used to do it on my old podcast was me and my cousin would rank our own and then put it together.
01:19:08
Speaker
And we got lot of lot of upset people when me and Sean did the Naughty Dog thing and Last of Us Part 2 ended up like their fourth worst game because of me. And so...
01:19:19
Speaker
Yeah, so I enjoy doing that because, hey, it throws a little wrench in the gear to see what's being ranked. Can't everyone agree on everything all the time? Yeah, it's no fun.
01:19:30
Speaker
Well, the next three games are all bangers. So at number three, we have Call Duty 4 Modern Warfare, the original from 2007. This is the game that really started it all ah for COD being mainstream. This was a masterpiece game. Absolute flawless shooting.
01:19:47
Speaker
ah Perfect time to kill. Great maps. ah The first time any of us really experienced killstreaks with the, of course, the UAV, the airstrike. And the chopper, of course, if you were smart, you would wait till you died and then called in the chopper and it would help you get a second one and you could just rotate them bitches.
01:20:05
Speaker
um It would get a lot of kills. um This game was incredible. About the only negative I could say about this game was martyrdom was really annoying. Dudes dropping grenades out their ass when they die and it would kill you off your streak.
01:20:15
Speaker
ah That was always a little bit frustrating. But besides that, this game was peak. Really good. I had it as my number three. DLB, you had it at your number six. And Hodge, you had it at number one.
01:20:27
Speaker
ah So that is a total score of 10, which is very, very good. um DLB, COD4, what you think? so I'm not going to... going to play devil's advocate on this one. So I know this game is a masterpiece to to many.
01:20:43
Speaker
It's good. It's very good. But it's... It's got the problem of being the first or the first of the more what we normally know as Call of Duty. So to me, it's just it's good, but it's too simple.
01:20:58
Speaker
There are a lot of the games that came after it really Iterated on it very well ah with new scorestreaks, with new ways to customize guns, with new perks, things like that. So while COD 4 was great at its time and for what it was, there would be so much more later that would come and just make COD 4 look kind of dated.
01:21:20
Speaker
um So that's why it's outside of my top five. I think it's very good. I think it was great at the time. But compared to, you know, another great game like Black Ops 2, it's good, but too simple to me.
01:21:36
Speaker
And, you know, there's more that COD would do later that would really hook me and a lot of other people ah in a way that COD 4 didn't really do.
01:21:47
Speaker
I think you're right. And I think the proof of that is that when they remastered it with infinite warfare and the cod for remaster came out, a lot of people kind of fell off of it pretty quick. um Like I did, you did um like, it's just the simplicity of it. And only being able to get three streaks with no added variety at all.
01:22:04
Speaker
It just started to get a little bit old. um But at the time though, when it, when you were in those, those times in 2007, 2008 play in this game, Oh, it was incredible. play in this game oh it was incredible Hodge, your number one cod was this.
01:22:18
Speaker
Talk about it. I no longer feel bad about ranking call it Black Ops 2 low now because this is by far my favorite call. Like, it's not even close. Number two on my list is 10 light years away from number one. to be fair, I mean, he ranked it 6, not 14. I know, that's fair. Yeah.
01:22:36
Speaker
But every criticism you have for this game is what I love about this game. I love the simplicity of the killstreaks. If you have a chopper, you know you're you're at the peak. i I love that the unlocks, it was, if you get kills, you get this camo. If you get headshots, get this camo. Do it with every gun, you get the gold.
01:22:54
Speaker
i love i love I mean, I will agree, martyrdom fucking sucked. I hate martyrdom with a passion. But this had my favorite maps. it had Crossfire is my all-time favorite Call of Duty map. It's not even close Uh, obviously intershipment playing headquarters on shipment where you get 75 freaking kills. was, it was insane doing that.
01:23:14
Speaker
Uh, backlot ambush block. I love those maps. Showdown wet work. Strike overgrown pipeline. I loved all these mad, but crossfire, obviously my favorite.
01:23:26
Speaker
Um, it, I loved it. That's the thing. I, I was, uh, it's the only call of duty. I ranked all the way up. I was the 55 gold cross that nerd that everyone's like, this guy plays way too much.
01:23:37
Speaker
I have probably 15 more days of playtime on this game than the next closest Call of Duty. I was obsessed with this game. I love the apps i because i read I still have a memory of, I don't know which Call of Duty was, but there's a newer one.
01:23:52
Speaker
where to level up your gun you had to have a specific sight grip and like i don't know magazine in your gun to level it up and i'm like fuck this i don't want to use this site like why do i have to use this to level my gun up and so i liked that it was you know once you get to a certain level you unlock the red eye and then you saw it you get the acog scope and like That's all it was. It was very simple.
01:24:15
Speaker
I don't like overcomplicating. And like you what you said with 4, I actually did fall off of it way quicker than I played you know this game. But it was because they added shit to it to the multiplayer. like I didn't like that they added all this extra shit you had to unlock. like I wanted it to be COD 4 but better graphics. That's all I wanted with the with the remaster. But they added shit to it that I did not like.
01:24:39
Speaker
And so, yeah, honestly, I thought this game was perfect. I mean, Sean gives me shit all the time. I'm the person who always likes the first game the best. But it's because I don't like when like obviously I like when games expand on stuff because obviously there are games where the sequel is better because it adds to what they got, you know, kind of wrong on the first one.
01:24:59
Speaker
But I feel like Call of Duty got way too convoluted in later years. And I liked the simplicity of COD 4. And so it was it's by far my favorite. I put the most time in when my friends and I got bored of World War War. We went back to four when we got bored of Modern Warfare 2. We went back to four like it had it was every time we got bored. We went back to four because we loved it so much.
01:25:20
Speaker
And yeah, this game, it's in my top 10, think top three of all time games for me this is one of my favorite games ever and as midnight knows when i got mad when we played squad that one time all gillied up is one of the greatest single player camp missions of all time like yeah it is so good that uh yeah so i just i can't say enough good day this game is an 11 out of 10 to me i love this game Yeah, this game did have an awesome campaign, and especially, like you said, the all ghillied up mission. You remember that, Debo, when you were crawling on the ground as the tanks who go past you, and then you had to take that long snipe at the dude? Man, that mission was awesome.
01:26:00
Speaker
um I'm not a huge campaign guy. That's why I haven't really said anything about campaign, but that one was very memorable, as well as no Russian. um But yeah,
Debate: Best Call of Duty Games
01:26:09
Speaker
let's get on to the next game. So now we have a tie.
01:26:13
Speaker
We have a tie for number one. There's two games that tied for number one. So if you were hoping for a definitive number one, unfortunately, we let you guys down. The two best Call of Duty games of all time are Modern Warfare 2, 2009, the original, and Black Ops 1. They both tied. So let's start with Modern Warfare 2, because in my opinion, Black Ops 1 is better.
01:26:34
Speaker
Modern Warfare 2, I had it as my number four game. DLB, you had it at number two. Hodge, you had it at number two. um This game, the reason why had at number four ah was because Black Ops 2, Black Ops 1 is better, and Modern Warfare 1, I thought, was a little bit better because of the...
01:26:52
Speaker
One man army danger close noob tubes, the cancer that was the noob tube spray, ah the assassin cancer, like where they could like warp across the map and stab you. There was just a bit too much chaos in this in this game.
01:27:05
Speaker
But it was a damn blast, though. It was a lot of fun. It had great maps. It had great kill streaks. Modern Warfare 2 is a classic. It's a banger. um And that's why it is tied for the number one spot with a total of eight points combined between us.
01:27:20
Speaker
Again, lower is best. DLB, talk to us about Modern Warfare 2. So I had this at rank two behind Black Ops 2. And then I go back to what you said about, what was it, Black Ops 4?
01:27:34
Speaker
Or basically, it was a ton of cheese, and that's what made it fun. ah I bring to you Modern Warfare 2. Modern Warfare 2 is the cheesiest of ultimate cheese you can ever get in a COG game. But like you said, that's what made this one fun.
01:27:50
Speaker
um Yeah, the one-man army, the new tube, when that started taking over, that was... Game breaking, annoying. But when this game was good, it was so, so, so good.
01:28:02
Speaker
ah All the different guns that were great. ACR, FAMAS, M16, so many different good guns there. ah Iconic maps. You had Terminal, Favela, so much stuff I can't even think about right now.
01:28:17
Speaker
ah You had the nuke that was actually put in, killstreak that, you know, challenging to get, but actually ended the game and gave you the victory. That was ah an iteration that i thought was was really cool. But, you know, reason that I like it, it seems like it's an improved version of God for me. And that's why I like it.
01:28:36
Speaker
It feels like a more, ah more, college Cod, Cod 4, I guess, if if if that makes sense. It was Cod 4 with extra cheese, and that's what made it cool. So, yeah, I mean, don't really have too much.
01:28:52
Speaker
i mean, everyone knows the bad stuff with this. Like you said, women, army noob tubes, stabbing people across the back, dual akimbos. ah It's just different stuff like that. But The highs that we're seeing in this game were probably some of the greatest throughout the whole series.
01:29:08
Speaker
um And that's what made it iconic. And then YouTube obviously really blew up around this time, too, as well, as far as commentary and and people recording their gameplay and things like that. So just a ah really fun game and a really fun time as someone who likes Call of Duty.
01:29:26
Speaker
Yeah, and the campaign, too. Of course, no rush in one of the most iconic missions of all time. um Campaign was solid, too. um Hodge, you had it also at number two. ahead and give us your thoughts. We're doing Modern Warfare 2 right now.
01:29:39
Speaker
Okay, that's what I thought. um Yeah, this game, i I absolutely loved it. Like I said, I obviously love four more, but ah my one of my favorite maps of all time, Estate, was in this game.
01:29:50
Speaker
ah Then I loved Derail, like you said, Favela. um And then Rust was great, even though I like Shipment a little better, but Rust is also Fadez. One V on Rust, bro.
01:30:01
Speaker
Yeah, one V on me on Rust. ah Yeah, and then Terminal is also a great map that's been carried. And then obviously... Scrapyard. Yeah, Scrapyard. I actually i really liked Underpass. I don't know how many people really think about that map, but I really liked that one.
01:30:16
Speaker
But yeah, this game, it was absolutely fantastic. Like I said, i liked the simplicity of four more, but this one definitely didn't take it to an insane level. It added more to like the customization and stuff, but it wasn't it wasn't bad. It was still...
01:30:30
Speaker
Obviously great. And then, yeah, the the campaign, it had a lot of twists and turns in it. It wasn't as good of a campaign as the first as... I've said a million times, but ah yeah, this one, it was it was awesome. I understand why some people rate this, ah a lot of people rate this as their number one Call of Duty of all time. And I understand it, but I just, I think four I just like four better. But yeah, this game, it's amazing. This game is absolutely fantastic. Honestly, in the top five of our list, you you could can't really go wrong with picking any of them as well.
01:31:02
Speaker
number one. They're all, they all have their highs and lows. So, but yeah, I love this one. I just, I just like four better, but yeah, this is a fantastic game continuation during the peak of call of duty. Cause yeah, this was the sequel. That was, I think I told, don't, I tell the story here and our other podcast? i don't even remember, but I remember when Game Informer gave Call of Duty 4 10 and they gave this a 9.75 and ah everyone wrote in angrily that they only gave it a 9.75 and everyone's like, that's still pretty good rating. I don't know what you guys are complaining about, but ah yeah, this game, it's absolutely fantastic.
01:31:43
Speaker
Yes, sir. It is good. It did not get any number one votes from us, though. We had four, two and two. um But yeah, they're obviously very good. Consensus rank is tied for number one with the next game and the final game that we're going to talk about.
01:31:56
Speaker
My personal favorite Call of Duty of all time. That is Black Ops 1. I had this ranked number one. DLB, you had it ranked three. Hodge, you had it ranked four. That's a total of eight.
01:32:07
Speaker
um So yeah, tied for number one. Black Ops 1, I love this game. ah This game is amazing. This game, in my opinion, has the best assortment of maps of any game, although Black Ops 2 is very close.
01:32:20
Speaker
um Almost every map in Black Ops 1 was incredible. WMD was amazing. Firing Range, one of the best maps of all time. nuke town one of the greatest maps of all time jungle was incredible kowloon and that one was kind of mid summit was incredible launch was good hanoi was was decent um so you had like just amazing games uh here and there was i think there was some more games too that or more maps that they came out later oh grid i forget how can i forget about grid grid is one of my favorite maps of all time i posted a link that has them all
01:32:53
Speaker
Yeah. ah Hotel was a pretty cool DLC map that they added. But yeah, I mean, just amazing games, amazing maps. Excuse me, if I could talk. um I absolutely love this. I'm pissed off that ah Grid being my favorite Call of Duty map of all time. I don't think it's been remade yet in any game.
01:33:08
Speaker
We want to see Grid bring it back. But yeah. This game was awesome, dude. The FAMAS, the FAMASI-MAS was amazing. um There were so many good guys guns in this game. The g eleven um so many good guns. um And those streaks, the streaks, the Blackbird, Chopper Gunner Dogs, the most iconic guns.
01:33:28
Speaker
streaks ever. That's all I ran. That's all DLB for the most part ran blackbird, chopper, gunner, dogs all day. Um, you, you struggle a little bit, but once you get that blackbird, it's oh it's over.
01:33:39
Speaker
Once you get the blackbird and you can see the Doritos ships, you can see exactly where everybody's aiming and where they're at. It made it so easy to get the chopper, gunner and dogs. And once you did, Oh my God, did they go off? If you called in a chopper gunner uh,
01:33:52
Speaker
Jungle? I mean, that's 20 kills. A chopper gunner on jungle is 20 kills. You get the dogs, that's another 10, 15 kills. Like, it's crazy. um But yeah, let's see here. DLB, are you all right? Are are you having issues?
01:34:05
Speaker
And once again, we're back. Technical difficulties going crazy here. We lost DLB for a minute there. um So yeah, Black Ops 1 was the number one game or tied for number one with Modern Warfare 2. DLB, please, if you can, give us your thoughts for Black Ops 1 now.
01:34:20
Speaker
Yeah, Black Ops 1 was great. Very, very good. I mean, the only reason I have it lower is because I just think Black Ops 2 was that much better. um But everything that was good in Black Ops 2, the foundation for it was there in Black Ops 1.
01:34:33
Speaker
ah Yeah, pretty good gunplay. do think the time to kill was a little bit high, which could be a little bit frustrating sometimes. ah But like you said, killstreaks, Blackbird, Chopper Gunner Dog, iconic combination of killstreaks.
01:34:47
Speaker
ah Maybe only downside there is that there wasn't much variety of killstreaks. So if you weren't using those three, you kind of felt like and you weren't really doing too much. But overall, great maps, great guns.
01:34:59
Speaker
Yeah, i mean I mean, I really don't have too much bad to say. i know they had the the blop shot on on this game. So um that last stand was kind of crazy. But outside of that, it's it's just a solid game. And it's a top three COD for me.
01:35:14
Speaker
um I just think Black Ops 2 kind of really took that foundation and made it a little bit better. But overall, very good Call of Duty. Yeah, also had one of the best campaigns, my probably my favorite campaign of all.
01:35:26
Speaker
ah The numbers, Mason, what do they mean? I don't play a lot of campaigns, but I did play Black Ops 1. I did play Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare 1. These were the best campaigns that I played. They were great.
01:35:39
Speaker
Hodge, you had Black Ops 1 as your number four COD of all time. ah Tell us why. um Yeah, I mean, I love this one. i obviously surprising that, you know, when people think of this game, most people think Nuketown, obviously iconic map, huge. Everyone, everyone loves Nuketown, would have to say.
01:35:58
Speaker
But honestly, the game, the map I think of the most when I think of this game is Jungle. I love that map so much. Yeah, I loved it. And yeah, this game, it was fantastic. Obviously, it added more zombie modes. It was that was Treyarch's, you know, claim to fame at the time.
01:36:15
Speaker
um And yeah, I again. Yeah. Like you said, the campaign, this is honestly really the only campaigns I so really super really remember is ah yeah are the modern two first two modern warfare's and this one. Like they're the only ones that I really think about when I think of the Because this one, it the first one, obviously, or Modern Warfare, 4 Modern Warfare was just a very straightforward war movie or like war movie kind of cinematic thing.
01:36:43
Speaker
But this one had like some mental stuff in there. Like it was it was trippy. Like it was it was really weird. So, yeah, obviously, it's iconic. You like you said, what ah what the numbers mean? what Mason, what the numbers mean?
01:36:55
Speaker
ah But yeah, this this ah multiplayer, it was a blast. I loved I love playing your categories. Love Black Ops. um Yeah, Summit, WMD and Villa are also ones that I really think about.
01:37:08
Speaker
When you mentioned Grid, I had completely forgotten about that map because, yeah, I don't I haven't played this game in forever, so I completely forgot that like ah that grid existed until you mentioned it. Oh, yeah. My favorite map.
01:37:20
Speaker
Yeah, that map was great. I thought people didn't like grid. I did. That's why I was surprised. i i don't i remember I don't remember disliking any of these maps, I don't think. I'm looking at that little picture that I shared.
01:37:33
Speaker
ah Firing Ranger was one I also completely forgot until I looked at this graphic. I was like, oh yeah, that map was that map was awesome. i yeah But yeah, I love this game. it was It was absolutely fantastic. Obviously, like I said, during the peak of Call of Duty, so...
01:37:46
Speaker
Yeah, this game. Fantastic. Because it's it's one of the rare ones. I think it's only this one and really four that I think of where I'm like campaign and multiplayer, both bangers. Like most of them is just like, yeah, campaigns, whatever, but multiplayer. But those two are really the ones that I think of. Like if you ask me about campaign or multiplayer, I'm going like this game for sure.
01:38:08
Speaker
So, yeah, I love this one.
01:38:12
Speaker
All right. Yeah. So I think we've all said our piece right on this. ah Let's go down the list. So from best to worst, we had tie for number one, Black Ops one and Modern Warfare two at number three. Yeah. 2009. The real one.
01:38:29
Speaker
ah Number three, Call Duty for Modern Warfare 2007. Number four, Black Ops two. Number five, Modern Warfare 3, the real one, 2011. Number six, World at War.
01:38:42
Speaker
Tie for seven, Black Ops 4 and Vanguard. Number nine, Black Ops Cold War. Tie for 10, three-way tie, Black 3, Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare at number thirteen world war two number fourteen ghosts Number 15, Modern Warfare 3 2023. Number 16, Black Ops 6.
01:39:08
Speaker
Number 17, Infinite Warfare. And number 18, Advanced Warfare. So we got the trash games definitely at the bottom. ah But the top five or six were all super peak, amazing games. So um that's been it. um You guys and have any final thoughts here before we get out of here?
01:39:25
Speaker
D.O.B., you're the guest here. Any final thoughts for this episode? Yeah, man. It's just been fun. I do like that we pretty much all agree on a lot of the top ones, so that's pretty cool. um But yeah, it goes to show that Call of Duty really, if a game's good, a lot of people are going to think that it's good.
01:39:43
Speaker
They don't have to do much. It's not hard to find a consensus there. So if they get their at right, I think they can definitely win back an audience. But in terms of this, thank you guys for having me on. It's been fun.
01:39:55
Speaker
Really had a pleasure. Yeah, thank you for joining. Always fun to have you on here. um Hodge, final thoughts here for this COD DLC. Anything you want to to mention? Yeah, a lot of fun. Sorry about the Black Ops 2 thing. but ah But yeah, I i love, i well, like I was going say love Call of Duty, but i should say I used to love Call of Duty. So yeah, when when you messaged me and Sean like, oh, me and my boy you are going to do ah ah an episode about Call Duty, I'm like,
01:40:21
Speaker
let me get in on that. I got to try that. So, but obviously it was, ah it was great to meet you Devo and having you on and we'll have to have you back for sure. I think what we should do is have an episode where we rank our favorite maps at some point. That would be a lot of fun.
01:40:35
Speaker
But yeah, that'd be, that'd be cool. But, ah but yeah, I was happy to chat with you about call duties. Nice to know someone else in this world liked Vanguard too. So. So that was nice. But yeah, ah I appreciate you guys Let me Bogart in on on this episode and talk some Call of Duty with you guys.
01:40:53
Speaker
i Of course, you're always welcome. um So yeah, this has been a lot of fun. You ranked Black Ops 2 at number 14. So you know when this ends, make sure you go repent and pray. Beg for forgiveness for that.
01:41:05
Speaker
if we do If we ever do rank the best maps, if you rank Raid like 14 or something, like I'm just going to block you on all social media platforms. like is It'll be over. ah But yeah, thank you guys for tuning in. This has been DLC episode whatever.
01:41:19
Speaker
Ranking the Call of Duty games and we're going to go and get on out of here. Bye. Bye.