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63. Our Favorite Star Wars Games & Ranking the Movies
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May the 4th be with you! This week, join us as we name our favorite Star Wars games of all time. Then we rank all 11 movies form worst to best!
Time Stamps
00:00:00 - Show Start
00:12:36 - Hodge’s #5
00:13:48 - Sean’s #5
00:16:38 - Midnight’s #5
00:22:17 - Hodge’s #4
00:26:25 - Sean’s #4
00:29:58 - Midnight’s #4
00:33:52 - Hodge’s #3
00:36:56 - Sean’s #3
00:41:24 - Midnight’s #3
00:45:27 - Hodge’s #2
00:47:54 - Sean’s #2 and #1
00:53:50 - Midnight’s #2
00:57:39 - Hodge’s #1
01:01:37 - Midnight’s #1
01:15:06- Star Wars Movie Rankings
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Games Over Plastic'
00:01:22
Speaker
And welcome everybody. This is Games Over Plastic, episode number 63. i am Midnight, back again with my lovely co-hosts. Joined once again by the man, the myth, the legend, and the master of graphics, Hodge.
00:01:39
Speaker
How you doing, sir? I'm doing good. I'm on call. I hope I don't get any calls while we're recording this. We hope I would. But but I'm happy to be here. We're going to, I love, well, I used to love Star Wars. So I'm excited to talk about the good days of Star Wars with you guys. So may the 4th be with ah all of you. That's when this is going up. So if you're listening to it on launch day or launch day, premiere day, i don't know.
00:02:03
Speaker
That's what we're doing. Star Wars. That's right. Happy to be here.
Love for Star Wars and Disney Concerns
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That's right. And last but not least, the Sith Lord and Mastery of Rebury, Sean Mason.
00:02:14
Speaker
How you doing, sir? Welcome back. He's back. He's back. um Yeah, I'm doing great. You know, podcast, we record you. Yeah, it's going to be great. You know star war Star Trek episode is going to sweet. Star Trek. Yeah.
00:02:28
Speaker
May the Trekkies be with you. i don't even I've never seen Star Trek, ever. Really? Star Trek's awesome. Never, ever. Not even the reboot or anything like that. Star Trek's great. I've never seen any of it. But um I love, you know, Lake Hodge used to love Star Wars, and then, you know, Disney took over, and, you know, we go from there. ah Luckily, you know, from the Disney era, we've got... um Yeah. bo Yeah, that's it. Yeah. just Season one of Mandalorian and Andor. Yeah, season one of Mandalorian. Yeah, Andor is awesome. I really like both seasons of Andor. Mandalorian one, like you said, was good.
00:03:03
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um the but The mall, people like the mall, I think, the new animated. i haven't watched it yet. i refuse. I'm going to watch it. It's set between episodes three and four.
00:03:14
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Maul died in episode one. I don't care. Everything after that. Well, they're retconning it. They're bringing him back. I know. I i don't. I refuse. and You're not going to let them retcon? They can do whatever they want. i don't have to. In my headcanon, he died in episode one. I don't care. The ending of Solo where he shows up is fucking stupid. The fact he's in Clone Wars and Rebels, it's fucking stupid.
00:03:34
Speaker
He's no, he died. I agree. I think it is kind of stupid, but hey, man, he's a cool character. And if they're going to retcon it and make it canon, whatever, I think it looks cool and I'm going to check it out. Should have kept him alive for the movies. Episode one, two and three. He should have been the big bad.
00:03:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I thought Anakin was lame Anakin should have killed him. Well, yeah, that's why they brought him back in all these shows is because they killed him off in episode one And was like, oh, he was so awesome. Like, oh, crap. All right. and bring him back then It's got the best music title ever. You know, will the fates.
00:04:05
Speaker
Oh, yeah. do People get cut in half all the time and survive. What are you talking about? Well, now in Star Wars, yeah, Qui-Gon Jinn got stabbed in the chest and died. And then since then, Disney's had about 17 people stabbed in the chest who survived it. So apparently Qui-Gon Jinn's just a bitch.
00:04:22
Speaker
ah It depends on where you get stabbed, I guess. He might have took a hard shot. Only movie Liam Neeson. Yeah. yes All
Podcast Schedule and Availability
00:04:29
Speaker
right, boys. So this is Games Over Plastic, the podcast for the agnostic gamers coming to you every other weekend. And we come to you on the off weekends a lot. it's We do what we want. OK, basically, we're going to come to you whenever we want. It's going to be biweekly, but we're going to come to you every week a lot of the times, too. So just look out for us. We're guaranteed to come to you every other week.
00:04:50
Speaker
And you're going to see us in the off weeks a lot whenever we feel like it. OK, that's that's the official schedule. OK, so just look out for us. Be ready. And be excited. please be Please look forward to it, okay?
00:05:01
Speaker
And we are available on all audio platforms like Spotify, Overcast, Pocket Cast, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere else. And we're on YouTube in full 4K video glory with edits usually by the one and only Hodge at youtube.com slash at games over plastic.
Hodge's Graphic Design Praise
00:05:19
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By the way, if you are a company that needs a graphics designer, reach out to Hodge. He's the man. Look at these awesome intros, these edits, these graphics. This man is talented. All right. Hit him up and give him a lot of money.
00:05:31
Speaker
Freelancer part time. not doing a full time. Well, if right give will give him lots of money, though. Unless they offer him a six figure salary. that bit yeah if if Six figures. i yes hey Like I said, if you give him a lot of money, reach out. He is talented. High five figures.
00:05:46
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Yes. And with that said, it is May the 4th when you're
Announcement of Star Wars Themed Episode
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listening to this, people. It is Monday, May the 4th when this episode goes live. That's why we're all wearing Star Wars. May the 4th be with you. This is our very special Star Wars episode. All of us are Star Wars fans or have been at one point.
00:06:04
Speaker
I am still a Star Wars fan. I wasn't a Star Wars fan for a while, but I got back into it with my recent gaming takes. And my cat's a Star Wars fan. So today, what we're going to be doing is we have a twofer for you.
Favorite Star Wars Games and Movie Rankings
00:06:18
Speaker
We are going to be going over our favorite Star Wars games. We're going be ranking those. And then we are going to give you the definitive list. That's right, Kat. The definitive list of the Star Wars movies. We are going to rank all 11 Star Wars movies from worst to best.
00:06:35
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And the way we did this is Sean and Hodge sent me their list. I have my list. I averaged it out. They don't know what it is yet. We're going to go over it from 11 to 1, the consensus rating. So it's going lot of fun.
00:06:50
Speaker
Was I the only one to include the Christmas special? in mine number one Yeah, the Christmas special was an honorable mention for that. That's an easy... I've actually never seen it.
00:07:01
Speaker
It's one of the worst pieces of crap I've ever seen in my life. I didn't know there was one. I've never seen it, but I have listened to the knockback episode from last time did on it, but never actually watched it. Last time I checked, it was on YouTube, but it was so bad that George Lucas tried getting it deleted from everywhere because he was embarrassed that it was ever made. It's one of the worst things ever,
Cultural Impact of Star Wars Holiday Special
00:07:21
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ever made. It's like Sheep in the Big City, that old cartoon. People remember it, but you can't find it anywhere. Yeah.
00:07:28
Speaker
yeah That's a real cartoon, by the way. I didn't even know that there was a Christmas going have to watch that now. It's not it's notoriously known as one or infamously, I guess, known as one of the worst pieces of shit ever made. It is. It's horrendous. It's basically. So what it is, is it's about i think it's called Life Day. It's some stupid holiday. It's basically Christmas in in in Star Wars world. And it's about Han and Chewbacca trying to get Chewbacca back home in time for the holiday. And the whole episode or the whole movie is about Chewbacca's family.
00:08:02
Speaker
So like wife, kid, grandpa, and it's about them. And while they're like at their house or whatever, like Imperial guards come like trying to find like just just to have them in the thing. I think it was made between episodes four and five. So it was like.
00:08:17
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everything was still very new and then there's like guest singers and stuff that come on like into the thing they play like bands and at one point the grandpa puts on like this br headset and watches basically porn and then like it's obviously no nudity but it's like he's watching like this sensual and like o and it's really weird and then it ends with carrie fisher who's princess leia singing a song it's just one of the legit legitimately one of the worst pieces of crap ever yeah i'm pretty sure it only aired one holiday season that the holiday season premiered it never aired again yeah i'm pretty sure you could if i'm i would assume if you have like a vhs copy of it it's probably worth money because it was so bad that they pulled it from it they tried pulling it from existence basically it was so bad but yeah it's funny yeah All right. Yeah, I didn't know about that. ah
00:09:07
Speaker
I do love, I'm sure you guys have probably seen this. I love the ah undercover boss with Kylo Ren that Saturday Night Live did. Oh, yeah. Did you see that? A Starkiller face? Dude, that was so funny. was working with the dude where he killed his father, apparently. ah They become close, so he gives them a card, and it's like, after the rain comes the rainbow, and then it's like, sorry, I killed your dad, Kylo. There is so much of charity out there for Star Wars. It's not even funny.
00:09:34
Speaker
Like Family Guy Star Wars. like the all three Family Guy Star Wars episodes are really
Star Wars Parodies and Media Reminiscence
00:09:38
Speaker
funny. Yep. We have Blue Harvest, which is supposed to be A New Hope. We have ah Something Something Dark Side, which is Empire. And then there's... Oh my gosh, what's the last one called? i can Oh my god, I cannot remember what last one's called.
00:09:51
Speaker
um I just remember Blue Harvest because that's what the movie was. That's what like the working title for the first movie was. But was, oh, it's a trap is the last one. It's a trap. It's a trap. Yeah. And then I remember they make a comment like, oh, we already ran out of our own characters. They start using American dad characters. Like, like oh we already ran out of our own characters. That's so funny. Yeah. And then I don't know if you guys ever remember, there was a it was like a 20 minute short called Thumb Wars, and it was literally the first Star Wars movie, but everyone was a thumb like person. And it was it was one of the fun. I actually own a lot of them on because it was made by think his name Steve Odenkirk. And who made also Kung Pao, if you remember that movie, the one where he like dubs over the old karate movie. Yeah, it was made by him. And but everyone everyone's like a thumb with a face. And so it's it's really, really stupid, stupid but really funny. I own like there's Thumbtannic, the God Thumb, Franken Thumb, the Blair Thumb. Like there's these really stupid. thing I watched it back. and like um It was like middle school that I watched these. and there but they were so funny the only thing i remember about the the star wars one this has been so long since i watched it was uh his name was i think they called him ben or whatever not but he goes my real name is ooby doo scooby doobin ooby and that always made me laugh and i sent you guys do you guys saw what i sent you right tad if you had seen that right star wars
00:11:15
Speaker
What one? I sent it in the Discord, Star Wars. Had you ever seen that before? ah You didn't send it in Discord. No, I didn't. He did last week. Yeah, last week. I checked it out for a second. I didn't watch the whole thing. You've never seen it before?
00:11:29
Speaker
yeah. i i've seen I don't think I've seen it. yeah That was around the same time as like shoes like and muffins like we were talking about. That was one of the early YouTube videos. yeah yeahp that That was one of the early ones I remember. The the giant shopping cart is the Death Star.
00:11:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. All right. a Good classic YouTube, man. Well, boys, I say let's get into it. Let's start off with the gaming, huh?
00:11:53
Speaker
And listeners, by the way, make sure that you leave us comments and stuff. Let us know what your favorite Star Wars games are and let us know your ranking for the movies, which we're going to do later, you know, one through 11. So we're doing the three trilogies plus Solo and Rogue One. We want to know your ranking and how it differs from us. All right.
00:12:10
Speaker
But we're going to start with the games because this is a gaming podcast. So we are going to go five through one. We're going to rank our favorite best Star Wars games of all time. And...
00:12:21
Speaker
I don't have the actual GOP dock up yet. What order do we want to go in, boys? I'm just going first. I'm first. Sean has spoke shan has smoke spoken.
00:12:32
Speaker
Yeah, like that little dude. I have spoken from Mandalorian. Hodge, what's your number five, bro? All right. My number five is <unk>s they've made a handful of these, but my favorite is the original, mostly because of nostalgia, and that is Lego Star Wars, the video game. the og1 for ps2 i played this is what started me and like i've told people if if you're new to the podcast hello but if you're a return listener i've talked about how me and my brother have the the tradition of we just play every lego game together and this is the one that kicked it off the og lego star wars game i loved this game so much we played this is obviously you know back on the ps2 it came on oh five so it was back when we were kids and we just had to keep replaying games so we
00:13:18
Speaker
played it over and over and over and I just absolutely love this game. Obviously they've come out with ah remakes of it. I think they have like the full saga on Xbox 360 and PS3 or something like that. Something like that. I can't remember, but this is OG PS2 one. It's just so, so nostalgic and I absolutely love this one. So Lego Star Wars,
Favorite Star Wars Video Games Discussion
00:13:39
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the video game for PS2. Okay, good, good. I never played it.
00:13:45
Speaker
what good Good pick. Good pick. Sean, any thoughts on that one? If we get right into my number five, because my number five is the same thing as Hodge. It is the original Lego Star Wars. I mean, honestly, you can go like any kind of any kind of Lego Star Wars, really. I mean, they have the OG trilogy. Then they had the they call it the new. Did they call it the new trilogy? It was like episode which was one, two and three. And then they had the complete saga.
00:14:08
Speaker
Uh, yeah. And they also had Lego, the clone wars, if I originally had the original saga and then I got the, um, You know, episode one, two and three. And then I got it again combined together.
00:14:22
Speaker
Like I buy and I replayed it again. And I freaking love these games. These are some of the original Lego games, like some of the first like licensed Lego games. And like Hodge, I'm a big fan of them. I even like, like I know this isn't on my list, but like the Skywalker saga, I know Hodge has his complaints because it's so bloated. I actually really liked it. There's a lot of fan...
00:14:39
Speaker
There's a lot of fan service in that game. Yeah, there's it was a great game. It was just way too much. It was so over. It took me like 200 hours to platinum. like Oh, my God. Yeah, it was insane. um And I did it all co-op to a buddy. So like it took us like six months to do it. But like we did it.
00:14:57
Speaker
That's like three of my giant RPGs. Yeah. it was In one platinum. Jesus. It was like six months to do it. Like just like three hour play sentences at a time, just going through. And it was like a lot of fun. Like I, i like it really, like I love Lego Star Wars and like, That original trilogy, it set up the formula for like like fro the LEGO games. i mean It was a huge hit. um It was a PS2. The complete saga came to Wii as well. cause I had it on PS2, but I ended up getting it on Wii, which was great. You can actually play them now on the PSP versions of them on the...
00:15:35
Speaker
PlayStation Plus store. like It's included in your system. really? Yeah, the PSP versions. Which the PSP versions are pretty good because they're legitimately... It's not like a DS port. It was like a legit PS2 port to the PSP. So it's pretty good.
00:15:47
Speaker
Yeah, I know I have the complete saga on 360 and I've been debating replaying it because I love it so much because I've never played the complete saga one because I played all the other ones. So there was no point in me playing it. So but I've kind of had the itch every once in while to go and and they holds up I mean, they're great. um Also fun. Shout out to this YouTuber summoning salt who does like speed run videos. He he does like history of speed run videos.
00:16:11
Speaker
And he's like their high quality, like production. He gets millions of views. He had an episode on the chase for Legos, like the ah like Lego Star Wars speed run. It was like it's like a super popular. Yeah, it's like awesome. the The tricks people use in the game, it's insane. It's like an hour of it. I was watching it. I'm like, this is insane to think about.
00:16:29
Speaker
That's awesome. Yeah. So yeah, Lego Star Wars. What a game. What a game. All right. Good pick, guys. Good pick. My turn. My number five it is a game that I talked about once before way way, way, way, way back in the day. So longtime GOP listeners might remember this because I had a funny story attached to it.
00:16:49
Speaker
ah Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Outcast. This game came out in like, I don't know, 2004, 2005 or something. um Do you guys remember the story that came with this at all? Probably not.
00:17:03
Speaker
Kyle the Tarn, baby. This, yeah, that this was the story that I told where I i was talking about where i had like a discord Reddit mod energy, little small D energy ah where I was like banding people and stuff. So this game was cool. It had like a cool single player story with Kyle Katarn. Right. But what was really awesome about this game was that it had servers. And this was kind of like VR chat kind of, which I i haven't used VR chat, but I've seen videos of people trolling in VR chat. Right. where You just get in there and talk to people with characters. Right. This is kind of like VR chat before it ever existed. You get in a server and you're a Jedi or a Sith or whatever, or even Stormtrooper, whatever you want. And you're on this map and you can run around and fight or you can just talk to people.
00:17:44
Speaker
Right. And a lot of people, we would go out there and you would fight. There was like this big landing platform and you would have jewels and it was really competitive. And I was really good with the lightsaber stuff. It was really cool. There was three stances. There was counters. It was a lot of fun.
00:17:56
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um But there was also like dudes that would run around griefing and like just killing people with their lightsabers. And eventually, you know, I had a server. I was, well, I didn't have a server. I was a server mod on one of them. And I remember, ah you know, I would ban the griefers and stuff. But then ah every now and then, every now and then, this was Younger Midnight. It was only 2004. Like I was right out of high school.
00:18:16
Speaker
I would get like a little, some small D energy, Reddit mod energy. And I was like, ah you know what? I'm going to, going to, flex my power here. I'm going to flex my power. And I'm not proud of this.
00:18:28
Speaker
I'm not proud of this. But like I would go undercover. you know I would just be playing as a normal person. I would be dueling. I'd be playing the game normally. um you know Not doing anything wrong. But if somebody would run up and like try to kill me, i would immediately like just turn into an admin with the duel saber and I would just fuck them up and just kill them over and over and then ban them and be like, ha ha, bitch. And I was like, yeah, that was great.
00:18:49
Speaker
But no, this game was awesome, though. That was so funny. No, it was awesome. This game was awesome, though. The lightsaber duels was really good, dude. Like, there was three stances that countered each other, you'd switch between them fluidly. um Like, the heavy countered the light or this and that. I don't know.
00:19:04
Speaker
But it was super cool. Like, the chat aspect, it was a social experience when you didn't have a whole lot of but social experiences on the internet, really, back then where you could chat with people in, like, 2004, 2005, really. And, yeah, the campaign was not bad either.
00:19:17
Speaker
so yep My only memory of this game is one of the only kids I knew who actually had an Xbox like in my town. like you know Everyone was PlayStation, PS2 over here. He had an Xbox. He had this game, and I remember playing it with him, and he was so much better than entertain me I was so bad at it.
00:19:37
Speaker
Yeah, there was a skill curve in this. Yeah, I was also like seven. i I absolutely I loved all the Jedi Knight games. They were so much fun, even like back to Dark Forces, one of the older ones, which I think was part of this series. Those games were just and they were the back in the days of what are they called? FMV videos or whatever, where it's like the real live. act yeah Yeah, it wasn't graphics. It was actual acting people. So whoever there was actually a man who played Kyle Katarn, which is hilarious. And I'm waiting for Disney to bring him back and into canon and just ruining him.
00:20:07
Speaker
because Kyle Katarn was such a cool character. He was cool. I loved that character back in the day. That sounds like fake Jedi name to Kyle Katarn. Kyle Katarn. Like, oh yeah, that's my Jedi name. Yeah, but I loved these games. Kyle Katarn is cool. That's a great, great, great pick.
00:20:21
Speaker
Oh, by the way, before before we move into my next one, I forgot if people wanted proof that I'm a Star Wars fan, I have the freaking Star Wars logos tattooed on my forearm. So I got this. I got the the First Order one after Episode 7 came out because I was like, oh, this trilogy is going to be great. And then it wasn't.
00:20:40
Speaker
And then now I kind of regret having that one. so my Guys, he has a First Order tattoo on him because he's a Nazi. We all know that. That's true. Very true. Wow. It's also really cool logo, but. yeah if It is actually a real cool logo.
00:20:53
Speaker
If people want proof that I am a Star Wars fan, I'm wearing a Star Wars t-shirt that I bought for $19.99. If people want proof that I'm a Star Wars fan, hang on one second. One second, is it in here?
00:21:05
Speaker
No, it's not in here. Oh, no, it is. Hang on one second. One second, it is in this room. Actually, I have a $200 Darth Maugus statue over there that I've shown before, so I'm not i'm too lazy to go get it.
00:21:17
Speaker
He doesn't have his lightsaber. If people want proof that I'm a Star Wars fan, here we go. Ah, Mando. I'm going to see the movie. I don't know if you guys are. Probably not. My friend wants to see I'll get I'm going to see it in the theater. It's going to be horrible, but I'll still see it. I'm not expecting too much. It's Mandalorian. It probably won't be that bad, but I'm not expecting greatness.
00:21:36
Speaker
I'm expecting a seven. It's hard to see, but up there in the corner, i have a Boba Fett helmet also. That's me in the corner. like I don't think the movie's going that bad. It's Mandalorian, like but I'm expecting a seven. Have you watched season three?
00:21:51
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it was like a six or a seven. It wasn't great. I messed up my camera now. a right well The stuff I've seen from the movie looked kind of cool. Like I saw some screenshots, unfortunately, that looked cool. We'll see.
00:22:05
Speaker
And if you want proof that I am a gamer, if you want proof that am gamer, look at that. Oh, about that? I love that old cover of Mario. All right. Well, you know what I want proof of?
00:22:19
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I want proof that there's a fourth game that Hodge loves. Yeah. Number four. The number of force. star wars um is ah Star Wars The Force
Exploring Star Wars Game Mechanics
00:22:32
Speaker
Unleashed. i This was like the first game where the Jedi powers felt like legit. Like there every other game, you know, it had like little, you know, you could move stuff around and whatever. Even Lego Star Wars, that you were able to move stuff with the Force. But this was the first one where you really felt like a Jedi. like And then obviously the epic scene of him bringing down a Star Destroyer just like by himself. and The QTE for it was really stupid. Like you had to do a bunch of different joystick crap or whatever. But like just the visual of him just like sitting there, like just ripping a Star Destroyer out of the sky was so cool. And then obviously i always did the good ending. I did the bad ending once just to see, even though that was the the bad ending was really hard. No spoilers, please. I still need to play it.
00:23:18
Speaker
Well, it's like any like any Star Wars game, there's good and bad. No, I'm just saying, don't say what it is. Oh, I'm not going to say, but all I'll say is i'm going to play the bad ending was hard. But the the good ending, obviously, is what I did the most because I like being a good person in the video games. But the game, it was so cool. You play it as, our obviously, Starkiller, which was Darth Vader's original character.
00:23:42
Speaker
what's the apprentice before they decided to write in a Sokatano who just Dave Filoni has to throw in a fucking everything. Cause he's obsessed with, I made her. So she needs to be in every single project ever. So, uh, Starkiller was awesome. And I wonder if they'll Disney, that might be another character. Disney tries bringing back into Canon, just a ruin, but I don't know. We'll see, but, Yeah, Force Unleashed, it was such a fun game.
00:24:05
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ah The second one, i remember the I remember the gameplay being just as good, but the story being worse. But it's been so long since I played it that I don't really remember. So I just went with the first one because I remember just absolutely loving this game. So yeah, Star Wars The Force Unleashed is my number four.
00:24:23
Speaker
I never played Force Unleashed, but... kid i used to babysit and by babysit i mean i was like 10 and he was like seven and the so we played video games the entire time and his mom would give me like 30 it was great it was the best thing ever um and then like i'm like friends with the kid now like like he's like three years younger i'm like friends yeah this is hilarious um he had both of these games and he was like the force unleashed one he was huge star wars kid huge star wars kid um he was obsessed with force unleashed like it was one of things he would just he would play beat restart play beat it like he would just constantly do that it's a huge side but yeah that's like my only memories game i never played them i rented force unleashed came home put it in my think was it on p it was on ps2 right was it it wasn't ps3 right uh i think it was ps3 and 360 but i could be wrong because it came out in 08 so it might have it might have been on both it might have been that maybe it was ps3 and must have been ps3 then because he did my neighbor did have a ps3 i know that um
00:25:25
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It was on PS2, Nintendo Switch, 360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, Nintendo DS, iOS, N-Gage, and mobile. have they It been the version.
00:25:39
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ah They are back and pat on 360, but I don't think they've like, they haven't rebooted them or anything. remade them But anyways, I remember renting it from Blockbuster, like near the tail end of the Blockbuster in my sid in my town and coming home and trying to put it in my console and just not working. The disc was all scratched up and I remember like bringing it back and I was like, can I have a different copy? and they were like, no, we don't have enough copy. I'm like, all right. So then I ended up getting like probably some crappy Nickelodeon game.
00:26:08
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Yeah. Nickelodeon game. I know. Shocker, right? But yeah, so, but I do, like, I know the entire story because I watched I watched that kid play it probably dozens of times.
00:26:22
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Yeah. It's so good. Nice. Nice. Sean, what's your four though? All right. So my number four is around, um, Kind of the same era, maybe a couple years before that. This is like, you know, um we're getting to the time where people were like, oh, yeah, Star Wars. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of over now. And that is s Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith The Game. But not the console version. Not the PS2, the Xbox. It is the Game Boy Advance version, which is a two-point... This is back when the handheld versions were like different games.
00:27:01
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Yeah. Yeah. This was a 2.5 side-scrolling beat-em-up. With, like, that 16-bit art style, like that Legacy of Goku art style. All right.
00:27:13
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Yeah, and I freaking love this game. i Don't get me wrong. I love the console version, too. Like, I love that console version. It was super fun. I love how the alternate ending where you can be Anakin and it can actually kill Obi-Wan on Mustafar, which is, like, hilarious. Oh, yeah. i forgot about that. love that. Like, they make it the canon ending of the game, too. It's like, man that's not what happened.
00:27:32
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Dude, the graphics for this are awesome. Yeah, it was GBA. Come on, Harch. We know it's GBA. Yeah, GBA graphics are just amazing. Yeah. um Yeah, no, this game was sick. It was a 2.5, like, side-scrolling beat-up. It was only, like, two... It was one of those games that was, like, two and a half hours. I got it in for Christmas 2005, but it was in my stocking. So, like, we were allowed to open our stocking, but not our gifts until 9 o'clock. So I remember sitting there opening it. And I remember I opened it probably, like, 5 a.m. because I couldn't sleep because I'm a, you know, 9-year-old kid. Yeah.
00:28:04
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I beat it before we opened our gifts. Like, it was like, it's like a three hour game. I remember sitting there like, oh, what do I do now? My sister, and you know what's crazy? My sister did the same exact thing, but with the Incredibles, the video game. She got the Incredibles video game and hair stocking. And we both, at both games were like three hours. we did the same thing. We're like oh, this is great.
00:28:20
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But yeah, this game is freaking super sick. The graphics are sweet. Like, I would love for this to be like re-released. Like, put this on the, put this on the Nintendo Switch, like the Game Boy Advance app.
00:28:32
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Yeah. Yeah. They won't because they had probably big licensing. Oh, but of course not. yeah Yeah. It was made by Ubisoft too, which is hilarious. Freaking Disney. Yeah. Yeah. i it Even though we'll get to honorable mentions at the end, I did have the PS2 version on my honorable mentions because this game is awesome. Yeah. I mean, I played yeah i played the PS2 one, obviously not the GBA one, but yeah, these games were awesome. It was one of those few movie tie-in games that was actually awesome.
00:29:01
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Yeah, it was sick. You know what's crazy? That Christmas, I got it for the GBA and then like in my st stocking, and then when we were actually opening real gifts, I got it for PS2. So I got both versions for Christmas, was funny. But there this is back in the era where, like like I said, those handheld games were just completely different.
00:29:16
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Like, I freaking loved that. I missed those. I missed that. Yeah. I remember that with um Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, like the Game Boy one. i remember but it was also, though, it was notoriously bad. was the game But also, like the Harry Potter Game Boy games were RPGs, turn-based RPGs like Pokemon.
00:29:32
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Yeah. If you look up ah Sorcerer's Stone or Philosopher's Stone and Chamber Secrets, look up the Game Boy, not Game Boy Advance, but the Game Boy ones. And then I think Chamber Secrets on Game Boy Advance was a turn-based RPG as well.
00:29:45
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Yeah. It was sweet. All right. Yeah, I never played that. Didn't have a Game Boy Advance, but awesome graphics. It was so much fun. 2.5 BMO.
00:29:56
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All right. I'll move on to my number four real quick. And this is going to be real quick because this is a game that nobody cares about but me, and I've talked about it before. But believe it or not...
00:30:08
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My number four favorite Star Wars game of all time is Star Wars Galaxy of
Mobile and Racing Star Wars Games
00:30:15
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Heroes. Oh, my God. That stupid game my student was obsessed with back in like 2020. Oh, my God.
00:30:22
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That's right, Hodge. I'm so thoroughly addicted to this game. I i guarantee I've put in over 100 hours on this game so far. I play it every day, couple hours a day. I'm constantly grinding. I'm constantly gathering shards and powering up my characters and unlocking the custom characters. You know I got Supreme Leader Kylo Ren, Galactic Legend.
00:30:42
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Supreme Leader Kylo Ren, by the way, which is the highest tier of character. There's only like 10 of them. I'm working on getting Supreme Leader Sith Eternal Emperor right now, which is the retarded Emperor from the end, know, episode nine, you know, where he comes back for no fucking reason. Oh, just gotta read the novel. gotta read the novel.
00:31:00
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That version of him. So I'm going to get Galactic Legends Sith Eternal Emperor just because I had the parts to get him. Like you have to collect certain amount of characters and then you can earn the Galactic Legend, right? gotta read the novel. And now I'm going to get Galactic Legend, Leia Organa. I got Starkiller.
00:31:16
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He was another unlock. You had to get a bunch of characters. The way it works is you collect four or five, maybe eight characters. You have to get them up to a certain power level. Then you win an event. Maybe you have a boss fight or something. And then you unlock the boss character. So I got Starkiller. And his special move is he does pull down the Star Destroyer. And the Star Destroyer falls down and messes up people. And it's freaking sweet. Is he? Is he in his normal uniform or a Sith uniform? Because a Sith uniform became kind of iconic.
00:31:42
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He's in I'll Show You. I got a screenshot of it right here. Does he have like a helmet? He does not have a helmet. So it's probably his normal costume. yeah I actually have a screenshot here because I pulled up the video. um There's Starkiller when he was pulling down the Star Destroyer because I was going to share it. But then I decided not to because who cares? um But that's Starkiller in the game there. Do you see that?
00:32:01
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Yeah, that's him just as normal. Yeah, because he has like a Sith costume that if you go the Sith route, he wears and it's it's pretty cool costume. But I like that i like him like that better that. Yeah, that screenshot there was right after he won the match by dropping a Star Destroyer on someone. But I love the game, dude. It's just really addictive. There's something addictive. You guys can relate to this, like Pokemon and stuff. There's something addictive about collecting things and powering them up and then being able to collect stronger units, right, with it. um So it's cool. I'm going to get Galactic Legend, Leia Organa. And there's all these modes. Like there's a Galactic Conquest. In Galactic Conquest, Sean. Yep. Battlefront. Battlefront. In Galactic Conquest.
00:32:41
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Yeah, where it's like PvP. It's a big PvP mode where you put your teams against other people's teams and you get scores and rewards, and it's cool. But I'm i'm not going to keep talking about this game because it's a mobile game, and you know, I i really love this game. incredibly but up world It's an incredibly popular It is, yeah. and i But I will say that this game is incredibly grindy, incredibly time-consuming, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't recommend this to people casually, but if you are...
00:33:06
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Someone who has time to kill and wants to play a Star Wars game on your phone, it's fun. It is fun. I will say this. It'll make you want to spend money, so be careful. um Because it is so grindy, and then they drop these bundles in your face, and they're like, hey, $25. You can get all these characters instantly.
00:33:22
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Instantly. It's $25. Instantly eight characters powered up to Relic level eight. Be like, that'll save you three months of grinding. And you're like, well, you know that would. But anyway, that's my number four.
00:33:33
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Galaxy's Edge Lord. You want to spend $25? You can Venmo me $25. I'll turn into $1,000 you. How's that? all right. Then will you send me $500 back? No. I'll send you $25 back. Oh, come on. You got to at least give me $50. Damn. Yeah, interest. All right. Yeah.
00:33:52
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But my number... on three, three. Yes. We're on three is a game that I just recently beat again. And that is star Wars episode one racer. Ooh, I absolutely love this game. I have a, the a hundred percent it on, um,
00:34:11
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100% on Xbox, I platinum it on PS5, and I, well, I guess it was technically PS4, I think, but, and then I obviously played it on PS1 and N64 so much back in the day. I absolutely love this game. it's It's an arcade racer. I'm not a big, like, actual race fan, so the fact that just a really fun arcade racer is, this game is just an absolute blast, like,
00:34:35
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unlocking all the different racers. Just the fact that that like Ben Quadraneros in it and stuff is hilarious. And Sebulba, obviously, Anakin and whatnot. But ah speaking of...
00:34:46
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Racer, i i usually don't ever do this, but I pre-ordered the collector's edition of the new Star Wars Racer game coming out this year. And I'm very excited to play that game because, again, I just played this game again. for the first I just platinumed it. andummbm it I talked about, what, two months ago, a month or two ago on this? And I just i absolutely love love, love, love, love this game. And I cannot wait for the new one this year. It looks so good. So, yeah, Star Wars Episode 1 Racer.
00:35:14
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Yeah, i also love this game. It's not on my list. It was an honorable mention, though. I played this game a lot, like I've mentioned in the past. um Am I still here? I'm freezing. Yeah, you're here.
00:35:26
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might That was me force freezing Yeah, your stop for choking me, Sean. But yeah, I played this game a lot in the past, like I talked about on the N64 and stuff. Amazing game. Really fun doing the races and stuff and seeing all the characters. And it was also came out in like peak Star Wars excitement with Episode I. We were also hyped to get Star Wars back. It came out in 99, a year after the episode of...
00:35:48
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Episode 1 came out. Yeah, yeah. And my old ass was in high school back then. So, believe it or not. so i was i I was hyped, man. depending on the Depending on the time of the year, I was either 2 or 3. That's crazy. That's crazy. I'm i'm so old. But, Sean, you're up next to him. If you've got thoughts, go ahead. I've never played the game. Like I said, I've talked about it past. I've never played it. But it it looks super cool. And, like, I remember it for N64. Like, I remember people, like, using, like, two controllers at a time, like, playing it. Like, they were, like, simulating, like...
00:36:19
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actually pod racing it's like crazy i could see you really liking this game like if you because it's only like five ten bucks or whatever you can buy for i could see you planning this and just absolutely loving it especially with like this is one of those things that i will if i get it i'm gonna get obsessed with it Well, the thing is, though, the Platinum is like a six-hour Platinum, so it's really not that difficult to do. So you'd be in and out pretty quickly, but this game is it such a blast. it's And it's really it's not hard at all. It's it's a very easy game. but Now this is Podrace. Now this is Podrace.
00:36:53
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Podrace. alright Perfect. All right. Sean, what is your number three? my favorite All right. My number three is a game that I'm pretty sure neither of you have played.
RTS and MMO Star Wars Games
00:37:04
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i've talked about it like briefly before, and that is Star Wars Empire of War. That is the RTS game for PC. This game was freaking phenomenal. was one of the first RTS games I ever played. Yeah.
00:37:19
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And it was like you took control of you could choose like the rebels, the, um, you choose a Sith, you could choose the rebels, you could choose, uh, the empire. um And, like, you basically controlled units. You built bases. You had, like, you know, typical RTS fashion. But they had a cinematic mode that would, like, go down to the battlefield and would go, like, cinematic mode. And they would show, like, the clone troopers shooting each other. And i had me and my friend Trevor had a blast playing this. it was Like I said, it was our introduction to RTS. We had no idea what it was when we bought it. it was just like, oh, Star Wars PC game. Let's buy this. when we play And played. And we, when I joke you not. Like, again, we were, like, eight years old. It took us forever to figure out actually how to play the game.
00:37:57
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Like we didn't understand it. But then we ended up figuring it out and we had a blast with it. It was one of the first games I ever played online versus someone because he went home and bought it and we would like play online versus each other. It was super fun. um Really deep and like lore heavy, like the units you could like the the stuff you could build and buy like with like your, you had like credits that was like the amount you could spend. um Like you could build like these like crazy like buildings and forts that were like named after these like random Star Wars things that like that were referenced like that that were like briefly referenced in movies or in like the novels of the like Star Wars. um It was super fun. And then they came out with an expansion that added a new faction that was pretty cool. I cannot remember what it was called, but I know they were like purple.
00:38:41
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And it they were space battles and stuff. It was like super fun. But yeah, Star Wars Empire War. I played a lot of it as a kid. Sadly, they were supposed to make that like a legit sequel Empire War 2, but it never took and they never got around to it. And then the studio shut down.
00:38:55
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Wow. Yeah. Sean, this game looks pretty freaking awesome. It was freaking awesome. Like I'm not like it's freaking awesome game. So I'm looking at it on the best platform of all, of course, that which is Steam.
00:39:07
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They got it on here. And this game has an overwhelmingly positive all-time rating. 97% of users have rated it positive out of over 26,000 reviews. That's really fucking good, obviously. And these screenshots look great. yeah The expansion was called Forces of Corruption, and it added a third faction.
00:39:28
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Well, i added an extra factor. Yeah, no, it was like a super fun, like even the cover, like the cover art is so nostalgic for me. And there was like, it was like the dollars yeah, there was like, I think there was like 13 or 14 planets in the base game you could play on. Like it was awesome. And then you could like create like what if scenarios, like you could like play as like the rebels versus like the clone troopers rather than like the stormtrooper. It was like super cool. You could do stormtroopers versus Empire.
00:39:51
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Like it was so cool. Yeah, nice. Steam has Star Wars, the complete collection bundle on sale for $61 right now. It looks like it includes like every Star Wars game ever made, like 25 games.
00:40:04
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Wow. Good deal. Nice. And this is one of those PC games that had like four discs to install. Like it was. Oh, and I loved it. I love that. ja game It came in like a VH, almost like a VHS tape container. Oh, those are the days these boys.
00:40:20
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Wouldn't that be cool to still have that like disc package? I wish I still had it. I'm pretty sure I had it up until like I left for college and then I had no idea knew where it went. That'd be cool to put on the shelf somewhere. Like yeah like I came home and it was just gone. Damn.
00:40:32
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Hey, where's my stuff? Oh, we got rid of it. hi Any thoughts on that one? Well, yeah, I'm obviously not an RTS person, but Star Wars is perfect for being an RTS. Because obviously there's other games that are very like army heavy, so that it just screams like RTS. And I'm looking at screenshots. It does look sweet, but yeah, I'm not a big RTS guy. I did see that on Steam that people have modded it to include the new sequel trilogy maps and stuff. but so there's i Because I saw one, it was that um the Red Planet from... um
00:41:05
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ah episode eight where it's like that like red salt or whatever they i saw someone made that map and stuff so they're still that community apparently is still alive and well so that's pretty sweet it was sweet it was fun the cinematic mode was awesome watching them like like i don't know just super cool you know yeah nice midnight you're number three Yeah, my number three. We're getting into some games now that you guys have played. Well, this one at least. ah Star Wars Jedi Survivor is my number three from Respawn Entertainment. Rest in peace, Vince Zampello. This game was awesome. I played it recently. It's the sequel, of course, to Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
00:41:46
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but Which one was it? Fallen Order, yeah. Which I almost picked Fallen Order. I wasn't sure which one I liked more, you know? um Almost liked Fallen Order more, but I think Survivor had a little bit more quality of life. The maps in the and the layout was a little bit less annoying, less backtracking and stuff. So Survivor was cool. I really loved this game. It had an awesome story. It had great characters. Cal Kestis, of course, is a cool character. He had some funny quips. I remember some funny moments like where you walk up to ah like a Force shield or whatever, and there's like two stormtroopers behind it, and he's like they're like, hey, what are you doing in here? This is Empire territory. and He's like, oh, I'm just out for a stroll. And they're like, yeah?
00:42:24
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Well, you better get out of here. And he's like, yeah? And he's like, well why don't you go ahead and just lower that shield and we can talk about it And they're like... Yeah, I'd lower this shield. I'd beat you up. He's like, yeah, well, why don't you go ahead and do that? Lower the shield and say it to my face. And he's like, yeah, I would. It's like it's just funny how they have this back and forth. I recorded it. I think I still have it. But it was funny, dude. There's like these little funny moments, awesome stories. um I really recommend it. Love all the characters.
00:42:48
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You get to go around to multiple planets. You get to do all the hijinks. If you're a platformer fan, this game is for you because it has a lot of platforming and environmental traversal, a little bit of puzzles. Great combat, kind of Souls-lite combat.
00:43:02
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Cool force abilities, multiple stances, and what not to love. What not to love. One of the best Star Wars games, and that's why it's my number three, Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
Top Star Wars Games Highlights
00:43:13
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You guys have both played this? No, I'm not. I have not played any of the new Jedi games, no. Sean, what you waiting for? You know what? What am I waiting for? Play Fallen Order, man.
00:43:24
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I'm waiting for...
00:43:27
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Frieza to return. Frieza. He's in the Survivor. That's what i thought. I knew it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've played Fallen Order was another honorable mention of mine. I love that game. But um I started Survivor but fell off. i can't remember if it was because it was still glitchy because I remember when this game launched, there was a lot of bugs with it.
00:43:50
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Uh, eventually it did get polished, but i think I have, i want to replay fall in order. Cause I have it on place. I beat it on Xbox and I know a hundred percent it because I love that game. I got every achievement. And so I kind of want to platinum fall in order. Cause I think it got a PS five pro enhancement. If I remember right. ah So, so I want, and i'm pretty sure I own both of them on PlayStation. So I do want to play them both, but I want to replay the first one first because i remember really loving that game. And I do want to get the platinum for it. So I think I'm going to replay Fallen Order and then I'll go back to. sort I think Survivor, I might have fallen off it because I think was right around.
00:44:27
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I got it right around when Helldivers came out. And so I dropped it because I was obsessed Helldivers, obviously, when that came out. So. I think that's why I fell off, but I could be wrong. but And it was a little glitchy. But yeah, I'm i'm excited to play Survivor eventually.
00:44:41
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But yeah. I didn't experience any glitches. Yeah, and especially because I'm i'm like 98% sure it has a pro enhancement. So I'm sure it runs like smooth as butter on PS5 Pro now. So I'll play it eventually.
00:44:53
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Yeah, yeah it's ah it's a great game. It's a little longer than the first one, I think. I don't remember how long it is. Off the top of my head, making this up, I want to say it's probably like 30 hours, maybe. It's good. It's really good. 30 hours? Yeah, the first one I really enjoyed, too. The ending of the first one was pretty awesome. Sean, you got to play sometime. Yeah, I know. own both of them. I own both of them. I've owned them since they came out.
00:45:15
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Yeah, they're very fun. All right. So that was my number three. How about you, ah Sean? You're number two, right? No, I'm my number two. I just know. But ah sorry my number two is another game that came out in 2005, the same year as Lego Star Wars, and that is Star Wars Battlefront 2. These games were so good.
00:45:40
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So I just there's I'm pretty sure these were both. We're both on pandemic. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, Pandemic, just one of the GOAT studios that doesn't exist anymore. But these games were so much. I remember hopping in. This was one of the first games I ever played online because there was like the hero mode or whatever, where you only play as like the Jedi and Han Solo and like all that kind of stuff. And I still remember playing Mos Eisley, playing with that or jumping around as Darth Maul. And just it was so much fun. fa he's Conquest on Mos Eisley. That's the game mode you're thinking of. Conquest on Mos Eisley. yeah so i speaking conquest lord of the rings conquest also made by them amazing game it's the same thing but lord of the rings um but yeah this game was incredible and then obviously too that's when it added like the space battles and stuff like that there was way more planets this game was genuinely like a perfect game i love this game so much and the second you earned like the ability to come in as like uh as the hero you're like oh yeah you go and just slow the other team it's Oh my God. It's so much fun. Yeah. i
00:46:44
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I was so sad when EA just ruined these games. Like when they, started when they, when they announced their bring back battlefront, I still remember that teaser at E3 where it's just Hoth and you see the, the foot of the AT-AT hit the ground. It's like battlefront. I'm like, what? And then it came on. It's like,
00:47:04
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Like, now they play well, but it's just... It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not... It doesn't feel remotely the same. It's Battlefield with Star Wars. Yeah. Because the Battlefront... The OG Battlefront games were so arcade-y, and now it's like it's just an FPS, but it's in Star Wars. So it just doesn't have that same...
00:47:23
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It doesn't have that same feeling. They're not bad games, but they're not Battlefront. Yeah. they're And then, of course, Battlefront 2, the new one where you play as like, the all you're playing as the Empire. And what a surprise. She's good. But I didn't it coming. And then it they crammed a bunch of member berries in there and crap like, oh, Luke Skywalker and Halt Lando are going to be in the campaign because of course they are. and Yeah, not good. But OG Battlefront 2. Amazing. And that is why it is my number two favorite Star Wars game of all time.
00:47:52
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No comment. Haven't played it, sadly. Sean, thoughts? I'm just going to get right into my number one and number two at the same time. This is Battlefront 1 and 2. That's my Battlefront 1 and then Battlefront 2 as 1 and 2. Well, 2 and 1. Honestly, these games are freaking perfect games, like Hodge just said.
00:48:11
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I remember discovering this Battlefront 1. at my friend's house in 2005. And it was like a couple months before Battlefront 2 came out. And it was right before Revenge of the Sith came out theaters. I remember he let me borrow it and playing it and being like, this is the greatest game of all time. And this is where you got the classic in Galactic Conquest that was in Battlefront 1. I remember playing through Galactic Conquest and it ends. They they they teased Revenge of the Sith. They had some Revenge of the Sith stuff in it in Battlefront 1. And I was like, well i know ah The movie needs to come out now! But I had to wait like two months, obviously. And then when Battlefront 2 came out, it was like... It took everything Battlefront 1 did and just made it better. like All the little things that Battlefront 1 were like a little janky.
00:48:57
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We're gone in Battlefront 2. Adding the ability to play as, like Hodge said, the heroes or the villains. like Like Hodge said, when you are running around a planet, you get the little... Oh, press the right directional directional pad on the right D-pad and you get to play as... ah um General Grievous running around with your lightsabers and you're freaking unstoppable. It's like insane. It was so much fun.
00:49:20
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Me and my friends would boot up instant action. we would play we would be we would queue up like 30 maps and just play through them like all night. Oh my god. Battlefront 1, we would mainly play Kashyyyk Dox.
00:49:33
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Hodge, you remember Kashyyyk Docks map? Oh, yeah. I love Kashyyyk. That map was so awesome. you play as In Battlefront 1, you play as the snipers. Kashyyyk Docks, you just sit out there with your snipers, pick people off. Oh, my God. That was a blast. And then Battlefront 2, playing on the Death Star. That was so much fun. And then the space battles, infiltrating like the um the Imperial Starships and like taking them down from the inside. and you get the You get the timer in the top right. Get out 30 seconds or it's going to blow! You're going to, run out. Oh, my God. These games are freaking amazing. Galactic Conquest in Battlefront 2. I don't know. I'm, like, yelling at them.
00:50:11
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Galactic Conquest in Battlefront 2, that was such a cool game mode because it was like, you had the like if you had the advantage, you could like try to take over a planet.
00:50:21
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Or if your opponent had the advantage, they would try to take over one of your planets and you would to fight them off. But you would have like ah you'd be at a disadvantage. They'd have like 100 more troops than you. And then it was basically, you went until you basically controlled every planet. So Galactic Conquest in Battlefront 2 could last forever.
00:50:38
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so freaking long because you had to like take take a command it like it was like a giant it would show like space it would show all the planets you basically had to control all the planets to win it was so different than galactic conquest in the first one because in the first one it was like a legit story mode um super fun um this made me like this i was a star wars fan but these two games made me like enjoy Star Wars even more. Like, it made me, like, I remember after playing Battlefront 1, going to my dad and being like, we need to re-watch episode 4, 5, and 6, and then we need to watch 1 and 2 again. And, like, this was what, like, put me over the edge to be, like, a super Star Wars fan as a kid.
00:51:17
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Yeah. I was, like I said, when I played Battlefront 1 for that first time, seeing it being like, is this a real game? right Like, what have I, like, how have I never heard it? And then my friend telling me, oh, guess what?
00:51:29
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In two months, Battlefront 2 was coming out. I was like, what? Yeah. Yeah. theyre i They're so good. I can't say enough good things about these games. They're so good. I'm telling you.
00:51:42
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Midnight. you got And then when I played it last year and got the platinum on them, and just I played it for like 100 hours and just grinded out all those medals. Like that was so much fun because I got just get to play the game.
00:51:53
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<unk>m I'm probably when I do eventually finally get around to this on PlayStation, I will go for the platinum, even though even if it's the grindiest thing ever. I love these games so much that I'm not even going to hate it because the the amount of hours I put into these games as a kid, yeah it's unbelievable. The the fun part about the grind, though, is you're just playing instant action over and over again.
00:52:11
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Like you're just playing the matches and you play like four or five matches, like 30 minutes and you're you're golden. It's super fun. Oh, my God. And even like, sorry, even like, um, not even getting the hero character, but like, remember how sometimes it wouldn't be a hero, but it'd be like a, like an an extra, like, um, like if you're playing as a CIS, you got like the, like the I forget what it was like this giant robot thing that will kind of look humanoid.
00:52:35
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You don't talk, you remember this Hodge, right? I'm trying. It sounds familiar, but I'm trying. Yeah, like you got like special troops you could play as. like um Like one of them on the when you play as the Empire, like the dark trooper you could play as. Yeah, I do remember you were able to unlock like more powerful because I remember like the droideka, the rolling one was one you had unlock eventually and stuff like that. get the shield and the droideka and sit there with a gun. Yeah, no one's taking it down.
00:53:00
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Yeah. So good. Dude, capture the flag in that game was fun too. everything Everything was so great that game. It was perfect. I love that game so much. yeah Super fun. All right.
00:53:13
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So that was my one and two. Well, there you go. See, you, you, all right we didn't talk about this before, but I did mine a little different because my number one is actually two games combined, but that's okay. We can do a little different. No problem. Let me guess. ah It is. No, no, no, no guesses. We're not. It's jaid it's Yoda stories.
00:53:30
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Oh my God. It's a, it's actually star Wars, a Christmas story. The game. Star Wars, a Christmas story. You'll you'll shoot your eye out. For the Game Boy Advance. For the Game Boy Advance. um You'll shoot your eye out. now No, for the exclusively on the Game Gear, Sega Game Gear. There you go All right. um All right. I'm up with my number two.
00:53:52
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sir. all right My number two is a game that you guys haven't played, I'm quite sure, but I bet you would love it if you did, but you won't.
Nostalgia and Anticipation for Star Wars Games
00:54:01
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And that is going to be Star Wars The Old Republic, the MMO, the Star Wars MMO by Bioware. this This is a game that any Star Wars fan could lose. This could be your, if you only had one game to play, if you're on a desert island a desert island deserted island or a desert island, or and somehow somehow you have a computer and internet and everything that you need to sustain yourself, this would be like the game that you could pick that could last you like just for thousands of hours of content because it has so much. This is like a single-player MMO, kind of.
00:54:38
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It is an MMO, but it's mainly story focused and you can play it single player. It's got eight different character classes and each one has an awesome story and it's fully voice acted. And just like just like Bioware games that you're used to, like Mass Effect and stuff, you make choices. It's got the choice wheel. You can pick light side or dark side choices. You can play a Jedi, but be be dark side like you could kill people and like. And stuff with the Jedi. You could be a Sith, but be light side and like spare people and stuff. It's kind of cool. I actually had a Sith, a Sith inquisitor who was light side and that was kind of cool.
00:55:13
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But yeah, like eight awesome stories. Like you could be a, so there's a smuggler, there's a bounty hunter, there's an Imperial agent, there's an Imperial trooper. There's of course the Sith inquisitor and the Sith warrior or whatever. There's the Jedi guardian and some other Jedi. There's just all kinds of stuff.
00:55:31
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All awesome stories. And then they have all these DLCs that come out too that have awesome stories. And it's freaking awesome. There's so much story content that you can do with choices that actually affects the story. It's crazy how they do it. And then they have their little flashpoints, which are like little you know like little story raids or something, which also have stories and choices. Like one of the first ones is you like you board a ship and you get you make the choice whether you're going vat some people out into space or take the longer way around to save them and have to fight more enemies and things like that. And what's cool about it is if you're in a party, it does like a dice roll to decide who wins the roll. And it's kind of funny, like if you're you're the good guy, right? So you pick that you're going save the people, but the the evil dude wins the dice roll and they get vatted out into space. so everybody watches them get thrown out to space and die. It's pretty funny. But yeah, no, it's fun. It's a cool game.
00:56:21
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Tons of content. every Every single line is voice acted. High quality. Amazing. This is an amazing Star Wars game. It is an MMO, but it's really a single player game. Like, you don't have to play this game with anyone else. At the end game stuff, they do have like some, you know, like some PvP and like some bigger events that you can do with other people. but But you can completely pay for hundreds, if not thousands of hours just doing all the the character story quests by yourself.
00:56:47
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So Star Wars, The Old Republic, The MMO, my number two pick. Heard great things about this game. Super like amazing things, actually. um But if Final Fantasy couldn't get me to play an MMO, I don't think Star Wars will. I'm sorry. The only m MMOs that I played were Club Penguin and Tomb Town. So very different. This game really isn't an MMO. It's honestly like a single-player game. I bet you it's... The way that people describe it to me is you can play single-player. It's very similar to Final Fantasy XIV where you don't have to interact with it.
00:57:20
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Yeah, exactly. yeah But the thing is, the combat is kind of ass. It's tab target targeting, kind of like i World of Warcraft and stuff. And it's like it's not complicated combat at all. It's really easy. um you You play this game for the story, and that's it. You're just doing the story and the choices and stuff.
00:57:36
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But yep, that's my number two. All right. I know you guys don't have thoughts on that. So, Hodge, what is your number one? yeah i ah i I remember seeing that game really quickly, seeing it announced, and I'm like, oh, another Bioware Star Wars game. then they're it's an MMO. I'm like, I'm out. yeah I was disappointed when it was an MMO, too, but yeah it turned out to be good. Yeah, I'm not surprised. um My number one is ah in the same vein as the game we talked about earlier, and that is Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy. Right.
00:58:12
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Oh, I remember that. i this was This was like the first game that I remember playing obsessively online. So obviously the game itself was really fun. It was the same as Jedi Knight 2 and all that kind of stuff. it was that It was the very same as that. But there was an online game mode called Siege.
00:58:34
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Which was basically like for anyone who played Battlefield like recently with it where you take points and you keep pushing the enemy back and they try and hold you from being able to push forward. It was that. And there was three levels. It was Hoth, ah like Mos Eisley or Tatooine or whatever. And then there was this Jedi Temple. And the Jedi Temple, everyone played as Jedi. Whereas the other two you played as like soldiers and stuff like that. And, but they the, the game modes were so insanely addicting and I got pretty good at it. Uh, and I just remember it was, it was the first like online game that I think probably ever played if I'm being honest, because this game came out in 2003. I don't think there were many online games before that. Obviously I was like world Warcraft and stuff, but, um,
00:59:20
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So I remember playing this and just being absolutely obsessed with this game. ah the Again, the story mode, it was fun. i i do remember feeling like I was like a hacker man by you could open up like the coding and you type in like God mode or something and you can make yourself invincible. And I do remember, though, because I did that once and there was a level that you're supposed to lose to the boss. And so I kept hitting him like, why won't he die? And then I find out it's because you're supposed to let him kill you so the story can progress. But I was in God mode, so it wouldn't let me And eventually i had to turn and then eventually i found out i had to turn it off, and then I was able to progress and stuff. but Yeah, those games were i just... I would kill for these games. They don't need to be remade. Just remastered. um just Just put them in as is. on the i know... I'm pretty sure, actually, i think they're backwards. I'm pretty sure I have this game on Xbox. But um i would love for, like, just, like, new controls and to revive the server so I can play Siege again because that was so much fun. But actually, in Fortnite, your guys' favorite game,
01:00:23
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ah They just added three Star Wars modes and one is called Siege. And I'm very curious. if it is the siege mode from this game. Because if I can do that, if I can play that game mode again, I'll be so happy. Yes, you guys are six, seven-ing all over. but um But yeah, I just absolutely love this game. It is by far my favorite Star Wars game of all time. It was really close between this and Battlefront 2, but this one, just because I remember how obsessively I played online, that I was like, I have to. that's start Jedi Academy Siege Mode is one of my favorite online experiences I've ever had. It was so much fun. So... That is why it is my favorite Star Wars game of all time.
01:01:01
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This is why Star Wars video games are f freaking unreal. Oh, they're so good. I mean, they used to be are. There's still some. They still are. There's still some good ones.
01:01:12
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It used to be like every year we got an awesome Star Wars game. And now it's like, oh, when's the next Jedi Fallen Order game coming When's the next Lego game? yeah There's a couple in development that I'm super excited about. Yeah, Fate of the Old Republic, the Racer game coming out. The KOTOR remake is allegedly still in development. Apparently it's the main for the Jonsard 2nd The what? Yeah.
01:01:36
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oh Night your number one baby. I think I only guess it is we are roar of coat Yes, it is. So yeah, good good pick ah there, Hodge, with your number one. Shout out to the Jedi Knight games. Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast came out pretty much back to back. Both awesome games, very similar. So both great games. um My number one, to no surprise for anyone, Knights of the Old Republic. But what I did, Sean, is I just put Knights of the Old Republic 1 and Knights of the Old Republic 2 because they're both incredible. That's my number one. That way I could include more games. If if I were to do that with Battlefront, Coach R would have been on my list.
01:02:16
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Okay, good, good,
Knights of the Old Republic Analysis
01:02:17
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good. But yeah, yeah because on what if I have to rank it, I'd say KOTOR 1 is a smidge, like a micro smidge better than KOTOR 2, but they are so close. They are both so good. Like KOTOR is like a 100 out of 100, and KOTOR 2 is like a 99. Like they're both masterpiece games. I thoroughly recommend both. They're incredible. I can't wait for the remake if it ever comes out. I mean, they keep saying it's in development, yeah but it seems to be in hell. Okay. Who knows? Yeah. If this game comes out, everyone in the world needs to play it or I'm going to show up to your house and force you to play it. So I'm at the point where I want to play the because, again, this is one of those where I remember specifically seeing my brother playing it back in the case. He loved these games. And I remember watching him play it and seeing him hit some of the lightsaber and it's saying miss. And that pissed me off so much point was it because it's a role playing game. Yeah. And so i was like, I don't want to do that because I want if I hit them with my lightsaber, I want it to hit. So I remember that just wrote it off completely for me. Because again, I didn't like RPGs as a kid either. Obviously, Pokemon, which is... Which in Pokemon, if you miss... role-playing games, in roleplaying games the enemy has like evasion and defense that. So there's like a role method, and you know yeah so you can miss. but yeah As a kid ass a kid or when you're just used to action games, you're like, this doesn't make sense. I swung. So I just never played it. But then I always heard how great the story was. And so I'm at the point where it's like, i want to play them, but I kind of also just want to wait for the remake at this point. So I'm like, yeah I'm so torn between like if they come out and say, sorry, the remakes canceled, then I will hop into the original. But at this point, I'm kind of just like, I kind just want to wait for that to come out. so You might as well just wait, honestly. Yeah. yeah I don't know. I was under that mindset in 2021.
01:03:57
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And then I waited three years and I said, screw it. I'm playing the original. And now it's been more years and it's still not out. So and so I played the original. I freaking loved it. I think this game was way ahead of its time given when it came out for the stuff that it does. How... how um meaningful some of the choices are that you make. They come back later in the game. It was way ahead of its time. I think the combat still holds up, but again, I like RPGs and I like stuff like that. So I think the combat's good. Story's incredible. I still need to play the sequel. I still haven't played the sequel. the sequel's awesome, yeah. I do remember seeing my friend play the sequel and the dark side of it, they seem to heavily...
01:04:41
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They harp on like the the dark side ah a lot more in the sequel. It's like more like pushed upon you. I don't know. so I'm looking forward to playing the sequel, though. The dark side is made by Obsidian, and it's it's a lot more of ah an actual role-playing game. It's got deeper RPG and deeper, don't know,
01:05:01
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tendrils and choices and stuff you'll see um it's good uh most people like kotor one more though um but two two is great too i i think you'll definitely like two you'll probably like one more though most people do but uh i i definitely don't think you'll finish two and be like man that was a waste of time i'm sure you'll like it a lot i better not yeah was good but yeah hodge i would wait for the remake you might as well it'll be here in the next five years probably maybe but if they do come out and be like it's dead then yeah just just go dust off the old one unfortunately the combat at this point is dated and kind of janky but i still play it for the story i still think it's fine it's serviceable there are a lot of old quote-unquote janky games that i've played that are fine there are some where i've where i've gone back so i'm like god how did I ever play this game but then there's somewhere I'm just like this is still fantastic like Spyro still great for amazing worst choke you shown um
01:05:55
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yeah but yeah no the play it for the story to the story is incredible alright so there we go for the audio listeners Sean recap please All right.
Recap of Favorite Star Wars Games
01:06:05
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For the audio listeners, my to all, all five, you want me to do everyone's games? All five, do it. No, just your five. Your five. For audio listeners, my number five was Lego Star Wars, the video game. Any of them really, preferably the original, but you know, you can go, can't go wrong with any of them. Number four was Star Wars Episode III, The Game. The Game Boy Advance version specifically, the 2.5 beat them up. But again, the console version is still good. ah Number three, Star Wars Empire War and it its expansion. As Hodge mentioned, this is still getting fan mods on Steam. So the game is incredible. And then my one and two was Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars Battlefront 2 because those games are freaking amazing. I was yelling during that segment. So brace your ears. If you somehow skipped it, came here, and then you're like you know I'm gonna go back and listen.
01:06:50
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That's awesome. that Empire War really looks awesome. I love Steam. The game is so good. Steam's such a great platform. they They're still supporting it with mods. Yeah. I might buy it for five bucks. great um ah yeah yeah Yeah, I get 97% overwhelmingly positive. So there you go. um Hodge, recap, please.
01:07:09
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Number five, Lego Star video game as well. Love that game. Four is The Force Unleashed. Three is Episode 1 Racer. Two is the Battlefront 2, the OG PS2 one. Obviously not the new one. And then number one is my favorite is Jedi Knight and Jedi Academy.
01:07:26
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Mostly because of Siege Mode. But yes, that's my bad. All right. And Midnight, that's me. My number five was Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 Jedi Outcast. Four was Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, the mobile game. Star Wars Jedi Survivor was my three.
01:07:43
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Star Wars The Old Republic, the MMO was two. And at number one was a two-for-one special. Knights of the Old Republic or KOTOR one and two. Sean, why was that funny? two I was thinking something that I shouldn't have been thinking about. two for once Get your mind out of the gutter, man. Listen, my mind's been in the gutter for a while. All right.
01:08:04
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All right. How about we got go through some honorable mentions real quick? You guys got some you want to share, Sean? Yeah. So for honorable mentions for me, again, I had KOTOR as one of them. That was definitely honorable mention. ah honorable mention again was the Super Nintendo i' mean not Super Nintendo the n NES Star Wars Empire Strikes Back game anyone ever played the NES one?
01:08:25
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Those are so hard. I probably did, don't know. They're so hard, but they're so much fun. had them on the other. It was one of those, like, this game is ridiculously hard. Like, good luck with this. NES games just in general were hard as fuck.
01:08:37
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I think, like, that was the replay value. were like, it's make games hard as hell, so people have to play it for a long time. And they were also in arcades, so that be their way of getting you to sink more quarters in because you kept dying. through True, true. Another honorable mention for me is Star Wars Obi-Wan for X-Men. No, I'm kidding. That game is horrendous. No, but... So was the show.
01:08:57
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What? So was the Obi-Wan show. of course. Unfortunately. The Star Wars Pinball, Episode I Pinball Machine, that was like... They brought that out in 99 for the Phantom Menace game. My dad is a huge pinball guy. Like, huge pinball guy. Like, that's like one of his favorite things. To the point, like, he has like four pinball machines. Yeah.
01:09:17
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They're actually currently here because again, this is his house, soon to be my house. Very confusing. But they're still here. um He's a Metallica one, but he is obsessed with pinball and he has like a 99 original Phantom Menace one. It's like ridiculous. It's super cool. nice ah It was so much fun.
01:09:35
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I like pinball as well. Not as much as him, but the Star Wars ones are super cool. They actually just came out with a new Star Wars one for it celebration celebrating Return of the Jedi, which is really cool. um Um, but yeah. Oh, and then another honorable mention for me last one was, um, Star Wars, the Battlefront games, but like, Hodge, did you ever play like the, uh, handheld, the Renegade squad? Oh, you didn't have a PSP, did you?
01:10:02
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No, you did. I did, but I didn't have that game. Okay, there was ah two of them. There was Renegade Squadron and then Elite Squadron. They were pretty fun games. They weren't like the OG Battlefront games. like They were a little different. They played a little different, but they were still really fun. They were still competent handheld games, so show it to those games too.
01:10:19
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All right. Good stuff. Let me, I'll get into mine real quick. So I had star Wars episode one racer. Awesome game. I had star Wars battlefront one and two, the remakes guys go ahead and shame me. Doesn't shame me guys. Cause I've actually played the remakes and I don't think they were amazing, but they were a bit of fun. Um,
01:10:38
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They do have a bit of an arcade-y feel, but I get what you're saying. i play The arcade-y feel comes from... ah go ahead, Sean. No, I going to say, I played the first remake for probably... It was one of the um games that i actually got into with one of my friends. We probably played it for 50 hours online.
01:10:52
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m Like it was fun like when you earn the actual like heroes and you could call in like Yoda or Darth Vader and then go around and mess people up like that was super fun. um But yeah, beyond that, it did pretty much just feel like Battlefield pretty much, with but with lasers, you know. Yeah. ah But when you got to call in the the superheroes, you get to run around. It's like f freaking ah Boba Fett or freaking Yoda. Like that was awesome. Right.
01:11:14
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But anyway, so that was that. And then my last one, this one, you got Lockmort will know about this for sure. Star Wars Galaxies. Now, this was the original Star Wars MMO. This game was awesome. This was us a sandbox, old school style MMO. You could not make when this game came out, you could not make a Jedi.
01:11:35
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You could make a normal character and it was a long progression. You had to like go through a long series of quests to become Force sensitive. And then you had to go through a long series of quests to eventually become a Jedi. So when you saw a Jedi in town, it was like, whoa, because they were super rare. Oh God, it's Yeah, they were super rare. So when you saw a Jedi, it was freaking awesome. In this game, you had to learn abilities from other players. Like you learn skills from other players. um Players would like play as dancers. They would be in the cantina dancing um and because they would give other players healing and buffs.
01:12:08
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um So like they they actually had a reason for that. And like you would tip them and give them money and stuff like it was all the player run economy and it was super cool. And ah my character was a combat medic slash bounty hunter, which was one of the best combat classes. One of the only classes that could go toe to toe with the Jedi and have a chance.
01:12:24
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um But yeah, it was cool, dude. Anytime you would see a Jedi and a lightsaber pull out, it was like, whoa, dudes would be fighting outside the star ports and stuff. It would be sweet. That game was awesome. Unfortunately, they ruined it, though, of course. They ruined it by they like completely reworked it and all a sudden they made it so that everyone could become a Jedi from day one, just make it its own class. and like You ruin the whole point of it. But anyway, Star Wars Galaxies. You guys don't care.
01:12:49
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I had one more honorable mention that was Star Wars 1313. Okay, Hodge, you're up. It's too bad we didn't get that. That's a shame. So already mentioned mine. I liked Episode 3 and Fallen Order. But the one I wanted to shout out that I always wanted to get into but never did was Wars Bounty Hunter. Oh, my God. I was literally just thinking about that game.
01:13:13
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Yeah, i've always and that and Republic Commando. I've always wanted to play those, but I just never did. But I always heard good things about them. So I just wanted to shout those out, but they're not our ones because I never played them. So I played the first... I played um Bounty Hunter um when you played Django Fett. I had it on PS2. It was pretty cool. It was interesting. um It was like a fun game. It was weird. The controls were... It felt a little janky. It's definitely... If you played it now, it would definitely be dated.
01:13:44
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But it was cool to learn a little bit more about Django because it again, it it takes place before episode two and kind of, I feel like they kind of rushed Django for that episode two, like kind of like, kind just throw them in there and like, oh, it's Django fact. So you get to little learn a little bit more about them, but it was it was still fun game.
01:14:00
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Yeah, I just looked it up on Steam because I never played that game either. It looks all right. It's very janky. It's very janky. 84%, mostly positive rating, nice.
01:14:11
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Dude, it's in this bundle, 25 games for $60. Dude, that's insane. I might have to buy this bundle, dude.
Ranking Star Wars Movies
01:14:18
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Dude, I blow up like everything i bought a Humble Bundle a while back on my Mac, actually, funny enough, and it came with because it came with Jedi Academy, and it was like $15, and I just wanted Jedi Academy, so I got it. But I think Jedi Academy is one of two games I own on Steam.
01:14:34
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like i I don't use Steam ever, but I'm pretty sure I own it on Steam. I mean, this includes like literally everything. It includes Star Wars Battlefront II, the classic from 2005.
01:14:45
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two thousand and five It includes Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2. It includes Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, The Force Unleashed, Force Unleashed 2, the Lego games, everything. Sounds like a good deal. It's $60, dude. Yeah, I might have to buy this. um I wonder if your Empire... Oh, your Empire at War is in here, too. well Then there you go.
01:15:04
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right. I might have to invest. But anyway, let's keep it moving, boys. So we're done with that, right? Correct. Let's move on to the movies. All right, boys. So we're going to go ahead and do our definitive ranking of the 11 movies. I have the list. We're going to go through it. This is going to be spoilers, guys. So if for some reason you haven't seen the Star Wars movies, go watch them and then come back to the podcast. right Come back in 20 hours.
01:15:27
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and yeah What are you guys doing with your life if you so if you still haven't seen Star Wars? Come on now. So here we go. Are you guys ready to go through this? yeah You guys don't know the list, but I'm about to give it to you. I you I can guess it.
01:15:40
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Alright, what do you think the last one is? This is probably pretty obvious. last year Last Jedi. Wrong! rise what cause mid out what You put Last Jedi as number one on your list? Of course.
01:15:51
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what am i Am I a chimp? Freaking chimp thinks that movie's a masterpiece, dude. No, actually, you're not wrong. There's a tie. ah Tie for number 10 is Rise of Skywalker and The Last Jedi. Interesting. So, yeah, these movies both suck. So the way we did this is The Rise of Skywalker was episode nine. Sean, you ranked it at number nine. Yeah, was the highest on probably, right?
01:16:18
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Hodge and Midnight, me, we ranked it at 11. It was our least favorite. You like Last Jedi more than... Oh, absolutely. see I think Rise is the best of the trilogy.
01:16:29
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yeah no But that's like saying, but to me, that's like saying that's way that's the best of the piece of poop on the yard. i i don't I don't understand how you can say Rise is better than The Force think Force Awakens is awful.
01:16:45
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okay well Okay. Well, I mean, I walked out of the theater after force awakens, knowing the entire trilogy was going to be trash. right. We'll get, we'll get to force awakens later. We'll talk about it then. But yeah, so that was our rate. And then for the last Jedi, we were pretty close. ah Sean, you rated it number 11, which is dead last Hodge and me.
01:17:07
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We each gave it 10. So the average for these two games was a 10.33333. So that's why they're tied at number 10. The Rise of Skywalker and The Last Jedi, both ass tied for last place. Absolutely horrible movie, The Last Jedi. Horrible film. No plot whatsoever. Yeah, let's kill off Snoke. Oh, by the way, we have a million Snokes.
01:17:29
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it it's Well, the million Snokes was in Rise of Skywalker. That scene is the only cool scene in the entire trilogy. Yeah, did that fight where Rey and Kylo team up and fight Snoke and the and the Imperial Guard or whatever that was. Yeah, by the way, we got 9 million Snokes cooking up in the lab over here.
01:17:47
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Well, you're making fun of that, but as Hodge pointed out, that was in Rise of Skywalker. yeah That wasn't in the last Jedi. I don't care. Everything bad, they they they pushed into Rise of Skywalker. the reason why I give Rise of Skywalker more credit than last i mean, both of them suck, but they both of them, is because Last Jedi was so bad that they had to try to correct everything in Rise of Skywalker, that they had to.
01:18:08
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Yeah, that's the worst part about this. I mean, there's many things wrong with the sequel trilogy, but the worst part is that they had episode seven where J.J. Abrams set up all these all these questions of, what's this? Where'd you get the lightsaber? Who was your dad? Who's this? but but And then episode eight, Rian Johnson came in and said, I don't care and just undid everything and made his own movie, which was horrible. And then episode nine, they came back and it's like,
01:18:32
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ah Can we go back to episode seven? So they had to re undo everything. They retcon to the retcons and it was, so it was just a horrible mess. And those, so that the movies are fucking terrible.
01:18:44
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absolute ass horrible movies yeah big as so i episode 8 also episode 8 has one of the worst scenes ever and that's the casino planet oh it's horrendous that felt so prequel to me it was just horrible like riding the weird llama things through the town or whatever And no, I like the prequels too, but there's a lot of the prequels. There's a lot of bad CGI in the prequels. yeah And that's what eight reminded me of is because that CGI was so terrible. And all of a sudden it was just like that movie tried introducing so many stupid themes that had nothing to do with the movie.
01:19:20
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yeah I grew up a poor person and these planets are bad. And then all of a sudden like, Oh, the rich people, they make the tie fighters and the X-Wing. like, yeah, we get it This is so stupid. Who cares? because like how do you rose like come on How do you find an ugly Asian chick? What the hell? listen i don' That's hard to do. The casino scene is so bad. that The whole casino. That is such a bad horrible is all those thoses movies and then And then you just write with Rose though. At the end of episode eight, she saccharges or Flynn or Finn is about to have this amazing, like he, he's about to have this amazing moment of like, he went from Imperial storm trooper to he's going to save his, he's going to sacrifice himself for the, for the, like the cause. And then Rose hits him out of the way. She's like, you can't do that. Kisses him. And then like passes out. I'm like,
01:20:12
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what? And then in episode nine, all he does is stand around going, and then you did that's all. That's all he does in the life worst part of the trilogy is the fact that originally Finn was supposed to have such a bigger role and they backed out of it because of China.
01:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, so and they made it and they were smaller on the poster. Yeah, China hates black people. Let's talk about these, though. Let's talk about these, like, not as a collective, but as separate films. So Rise of Skywalker was ass because f freaking white though they brought back the Emperor with no explanation at all. All of a sudden, he just comes back with a million it's because back with a million star It's because Kathleen Kennedy said, let's bring back the Emperor, and they had to.
01:20:57
Speaker
Yeah. General Snoke. Snoke was supposed to be, or Supreme Leader Snoke, whatever. He was supposed to be his own character. And then ka after they killed him in episode eight, just randomly and no explanation of who he was, Kathleen Kennedy's like, well, what if it's the Emperor? I'm like, okay.
01:21:12
Speaker
Yeah. and Which is why episode nine is worse because it's a retcon of a retcon. And so that movie makes absolutely no fucking sense. so says Yeah. And then Ray dies and then Kylo saves her, but then he dies because he saves her. It's just so, it's so stupid. And then, and then they make out and he says he's her uncle, I think because of how she was born from hit Palpatine or something. It's so bad. It's just, how, ah how would he be related to her? if She's Palpatine. So Kylo Ren, he's Ben solo.
01:21:42
Speaker
there were there were i thought there were there's so I can't remember. Someone said they were related in some way. All I know is Leia. There's so much wrong with these movies.
01:21:54
Speaker
They're just terrible. That's Ben Solo. Leia and Han's son. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. Now, why is she calling herself Skywalker? Oh, at the end? Because she trained with Luke for like a week. Now she's Skywalker.
01:22:06
Speaker
Oh, I got to send you guys this funny movie. stupid. So that movie was ass. And then The Last Jedi was ass, too. Like, the only cool thing about that whole movie was the fight scene with Snoke. um But that made it better than Rise of Skywalker because there was nothing redeeming about Rise of Skywalker, in my opinion.
01:22:20
Speaker
They're both trash. Let's just be honest. They are. They are. And that's why they tied number 10. Do you guys have any other thoughts before we move on? Or do we want on to better films? Number 10. Hold on. Before we move on, would just want to send you guys this meme. I'll put it in the episode also just because it's so funny after you guys look at it. But – It's my favorite spoof of the ending of the movie.
01:22:40
Speaker
It's just, who are you? I'm Ray. Ray who? And it looks over at the ghost and it's Ben Quadraneros. It's got some Ray Quadraneros. All right, guys. At number nine, the number nine film, this might surprise Sean. It was episode two, Attack of the Crone. Get out of here!
01:23:02
Speaker
Yeah, episode number two, Attack of the Clones, by far the worst of the prequel trilogy. So it's definitely the worst of prequel trilogy, but it is infinitely better than the Disney crap.
01:23:14
Speaker
I'm sorry to say, but you're wrong, Sean. um So,
Prequel Trilogy Critique
01:23:19
Speaker
exactly. So, here's how here's how it worked out, Sean. ah You rated it was your number six, right?
01:23:26
Speaker
ah But Hodge had it at nine, and I had it it at nine. And by the way, Lockmort is not here, but he was going to be here at one point, and he gave me his rankings. And he had episode two, Attack of the Clones, a ten.
01:23:37
Speaker
So, he agrees with us. Yes, you're all right. And when we get to ah The Force Awakens, by the way, he's going to further support you being wrong. But anyway, maybe it's an age thing. It might be. The older people skew differently. um But yeah, so Attack of the Clones was pretty ass. It was by far the worst of the prequels. Count Dooku.
01:23:58
Speaker
He came out of nowhere. Like, who the fuck is this dude? He was an ass villain. I didn't like him. it should have been Maul. The only cool scene in episode two was when you actually got to see Yoda for the first time without a lightsaber. And he was just doing flips and shit. And that was pretty cool. um But overall, this movie was super mid. The CGI was really bad all throughout it.
01:24:18
Speaker
um It wasn't a horrible film, but it just it just wasn't good. It just wasn't good now. It just felt so wooden because if you look at like the sub behind the scenes, it's literally just them on a big blue like set. There's nothing real in any of these movies. Even episode one had real sets, even though they only went so high. And then the rest was CGI. But this movie was like entirely blue screen and it it showed it was so. I remember they also said they never made a single clone helmet.
01:24:53
Speaker
like during the during the prequel trilogy because they were all CGI. And it it like it shows and it's bad. But i understand i understand the argument of saying that this is better than anything in the sequel trilogy because the ideas of the prequel trilogy are actually really good. Like the rise to Emperor Palpatine's powers, turning it from the Republic into the Empire. like It's all very good because it's all kind of historically accurate of how people like how evil people rise to power. And so it's really good, but I just can't get over how bad the CGI is. Hayden Christensen, as much as I actually really like him as Anakin, especially in episode three, he's not good in this. The writing is terrible, but I will, I will say, even though I did rank it lower than force awakens, I understand that this one thematically is better than the force awakens. It's just the CGI and acting in this movie is so bad.
01:25:47
Speaker
That yeah it is the worst of the prequel trilogy. But i will I will accept saying this is better than anything in the sequel trilogy. It's just I personally put it. Wasn't Jar Jar all in this one too? No, Jar Jar was episode one. Jar Jar is... I think the universe that they set up in the prequels is amazing.
01:26:06
Speaker
Oh yeah, it's so good. All the stuff they set up in it. It's definitely the worst of the prequels. But I do think it's, like I said, I think it's better than anything Disney touched. The Galactic Republic era is pretty awesome. so I also, I will say the thing I love about in this movie is something i you do not realize as a kid, but looking back at it you realize that in the scene where Anakin is slaughtering the sand people, you hear Qui-Gon Jinn's ghost going, Annie, no! And he's yelling at him, like, trying to get him to stop from turning to the dark side, and that's a really cool little touch. the Colosseum scene at the end is pretty awesome. When the clones get, like, unveiled, they come in. It's a pretty awesome scene.
01:26:43
Speaker
Yeah, the Geonosis stuff. That was a cool scene. Yeah, but again, the Geonosis stuff, it's just like, it looks so bad. You also have to remember the time the movie came out, that was a big thing. People were pushing a lot of that CGI stuff. O2, think, is when this one came out. People were pushing that. And in alternate reality, if any of those CGI movies, they took off, that's what we'd be on right I think if Attack of the Clones was just a little better acted and it had the CGI of the sequel trilogy, it would be an amazing movie. Oh, yeah. It'd be much better, yeah.
01:27:16
Speaker
And also, I didn't like that they made Boba Fett like a clone of Jango Fett. Jango. I didn't like that either. That kind of meh. Yeah. but So Sean, did you want to give some positive bars for Attack of the Clones? i mean, you had it higher. I mean, like I said, i think the Coliseum scene is awesome. i think the stuff I think the Attack of the Clones is where they really start setting up like the entire universe for the prequels. You start learning a lot more. i that You see Boba Fett as a kid. You understand why he is a bounty hunter. again Maybe I didn't really like that he's like a clone of Jango Fett and that like all the, out you know, the clones are kind of based off of him.
Solo: A Star Wars Story Discussion
01:27:53
Speaker
But I still think it's cool that what they set up, I really like like young Obi-Wan. Like I really, I love that like younger Obi-Wan trying to kind of just pretty much learn who he is since he, you know, witnesses master get killed. kind of get thrown into the mix. Like he didn't want to train Anakin. Like that wasn't his thing. That wasn't, he didn't, that was not something we wanted to do, but he had to do it.
01:28:15
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um And then you kind of see them grow as, you know, friends. So I do like that. I actually do like Count Dooku. I think he's pretty cool. You know, like, ah well, Christopher Lee is just awesome. Oh, he's awesome. Of course. Um,
01:28:26
Speaker
And I'm a big Mace Windu guy. Like, I love Mace Windu. Oh, I love Mace Windu, too. I think he's so cool. So, yeah. But did you know that they edited him killing Jango? That he was originally supposed to, like, cut him to pieces? And they actually filmed it, but they edited it to where he was just swinging... Because it's that entire scene where he's swinging his lightsaber. That's him cutting off limbs, but they edited it to not do it. But then he does obviously still cut his head off. But like it was literally him chopping his arms and legs off. Like though every swing was him taking a piece of him off. And they're like this is a little too violent. So they they edited it down to just the head, which is crazy.
01:29:05
Speaker
Well, Sean, at number eight, you think it's Force Awakens? No, I think it's going be solo. Well, you're right. It's Solo. Number eight is Solo. This movie was trash. This movie's so bad, I literally don't remember anything about it, honestly. I forgot it all. All I remember is that it sucked. i probably Maybe I need to rewatch it I'd rather have a Lando movie with Donald Glover.
01:29:25
Speaker
That'd be cool, actually. i would i would I would much rather have that. Solo should have been kind of cool, but it it was not. Other than the fact that they made Lando like pansexual. Other than that. because What?
01:29:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. He was in love with the robot in the movie. He was literally in love with the robot. And so he's like in in episode five and six, he's a ladies man. But nope. in modern day, they had to make him pansexual. He was in love with everyone.
01:29:54
Speaker
Yeah. And no. So the reason why I added I had this basically mid bottom of my list is for the same reason as you. Basically, it's forgettable. There's like I actually think Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo wasn't bad.
01:30:08
Speaker
I thought he did a pretty good job as him. And Donald Glover's Lando was good. But then you have that annoying lady as the robot. um the plot is just him trying to find his way back to amelia clark and she ends up like whoring herself out to make it through life and all that she becomes a villain and then uh they i know they had to reshoot the crap out of this movie because the original villain dropped out and they had to re-edit so much crap in this movie and then um The ending was so stupid, setting it up for the Darth Maul stuff where Emilia Clarke's like, oh, I gotta contact my boss. And it's Darth Maul. Randomly, it's like, what?
01:30:49
Speaker
Honestly, did anyone ask for prequel? Like, oh, we need a Han Solo or nobody asked for this crap. Nope. They were originally... That's the thing. This was the first Star Wars movie to ever lose money in theaters because no one went to see it because it looked bad. Because originally, if you remember, this one is called Solo, a Star Wars star wars story because they were going to do Obi-Wan, a Star Wars story, Boba Fett, a Star Wars story. They were going to do all these movies, which is why now they got just extended and put into really crappy TV shows because these were originally is so supposed to kick off I'm pretty sure they said they were going to do annual Star Wars movies see because they did Force Awakens, then Rogue One, then Episode 8, then this, then Episode 9.
01:31:35
Speaker
But Solo lost money and Rise of Skywalker made less than Last Jedi because i everyone hated The Last Jedi. that They're like, oh, we need to put all this on ice, which is why this year is going the first year we get a Star Wars movie in...
01:31:46
Speaker
seven years eight years or whatever it is yeah so seven years so it's because this movie lost money because it was just so mid i i remember there were parts of this movie i enjoyed but overall it was just mid and forgettable which is why it's like it's not as egregiously bad as the sequel trilogy and attack the clones even though i actually thinking about i probably put tag above this but i But it was just forgettable, which is why I just kind of had it in the middle of the list because it's like it's not so egregiously bad, but it's obviously also not good.
01:32:21
Speaker
All right. So I have to make a confession here. um I made a mistake. I was looking at the list that included Lockmort here, unfortunately. So I was looking at the wrong list. But it doesn't change too much,
The Force Awakens Debate
01:32:34
Speaker
actually. with The way it works with the consensus trio list here is that we actually have a tie, at numbers a three-way tie at number seven. So Attack of the Clones and Solo are tied at number seven on our list with another movie, which I'll mention next. So there you go. Can I guess it?
01:32:51
Speaker
A little bit better, Sean. Attack of the Clones isn't as bad as, isn't worse than Solo. It's tied in our list, in our ranking. The next one on here is going to be Force Awakens because of me, because I ranked it 10. Exactly right.
01:33:05
Speaker
You're exactly right. So with Solo, though, what was interesting about Solo is that we all gave it an eight, eight, eight, eight. Even Lockmort, who's not here, he also gave it an eight. So consensus number eight across the board for Solo, which gave it an eight. It was the best worst movie. Yeah, exactly. um So there you go. So that's Solo tied at number seven on our list. Sorry, guys. So Attack of the Clones and Solo tied at number seven. And then Force Awakens comes in also tied at number seven here. um And then the way the rankings work out for that, Sean, you gave it a number 10 somehow.
01:33:39
Speaker
Hodge, you and I both gave it ranked at number seven. Lockmort, who's not here, had it number four favorite. The Force Awakens. Now, I find it interesting that you hated The Force Awakens so much, considering that it is almost a shot-for-shot remake of A New Hope. That's why it's bad. That's why it's bad.
01:34:00
Speaker
oh That's why you hate it all so much. It's shot for shot, true but worse. I think Poe's horrendous character. I think he's awful. yeah I think the coolest, the coolest I think the entirere sorry the interrogation scene of him with Kylo is so stupid. They're trying to be like funny, but at the same time serious. it's like That is like so dumb. um I think that Rey being on Jakku and running around and like I think that's so dumb. that The whole, oh, is this this this this hunk of junk? Can this hunk of junk fly? And it's a freaking Millennium Falcon. That is so dumb.
01:34:35
Speaker
Like, come on. We didn't need that. Why is that dumb? It was an old ship. She didn't know was Millennium Falcon. You don't need that, though. You can give us a different ship. Yeah, she... but member? Remember the Men in Falcon? She's also the very definition of a Mary Sue character. She was perfect at everything. she was She was the best pilot. She was the best tech. She was the best at fighter. She's just perfect.
01:35:01
Speaker
I mean, I thought I remember after leaving this movie, just thinking I i liked her only because I thought Daisy Ridley was hot. But, but yeah that's how, yeah. But then later realizing the lightsaber, like they, Finn should have had the light. Like I thought Finn was going to be force sensitive and they didn't do that. I think like,
01:35:20
Speaker
All sudden, like I know Kylo gets hurt, but he all of a sudden Rey is beating him in a lightsaber. Like, come on. and Kylo's been training forever. He could have one-handed. Even with one hand, he should be dominating. She has no training, yeah. He should be dominating. And like maybe they could have made it. They could have maybe made that made it sense if they put a scene in there like maybe she was good with a staff or something like where she was fighting and training with a staff. Then maybe it would have made a little sense because she'd had some martial arts prowess. But she had like they gave us no reference at all that she had any skill. She just picks up a lightsaber and beats Kylo. Like what? I yeah i think Poe's a horrendous character. Like I hate it. And then him and Finn are awesome. Like they're like, oh, i love you, man.
01:35:58
Speaker
Dude, you met for five minutes. yeah then um i remember oh captain phasma terrible well yeah that's all right so yeah i'm gonna go through a list of reasons why i hated this movie then and go what reasons why i hate it now but so at the time before eight nine came out i left giving it the benefit of the doubt that these questions that were asked were gonna be answered where Where's the lightsaber come from? Why was Captain Phasma only in it for 30 seconds and she was useless? Why it was Luke only at the end? Because, oh, I figured, oh, next episode he'll be great. Nope. And then, like, why is there another Death Star? Where did this come from? How's the last first order still? There's always a Death Star. Yeah. and
01:36:40
Speaker
And so I had all these questions of, like, and complaints of, like, oh, that wasn't great. That wasn't blah, blah, blah. But I figured the sequels would make it better. Oh, and also the Raftar scene is one of the worst fucking scenes ever in a Star Wars movie. I hated that scene with the... Quit saying? The where they're on the ship that Han Solo and Chewie are driving in the giant like rolly ball things are... Yeah, that scene's awful. Rolling around eating everyone with the tentacles and shit. Yeah. Yeah, it was horrible. But... um Then just in hindsight, all those questions not being answered makes the movie even worse because it asks all these questions that are never answered. Like, where did Luke's lightsaber come from?
01:37:19
Speaker
oh Who cares? it's good if you know It fell off of Cloud City into God knows where, but somehow they found it like It's such a small universe, isn't it? Also...
01:37:31
Speaker
If you didn't know that Han Solo was dying in the scene where he walks out on that, like, get the heck out of a theater. you didn't know that. It was so obvious. See, and then I remember... BOOM! The fan theory headcanon was, did he do it on purpose because Kylo Ren's a double agent and he needs to do this to turn himself bad? Like, he has... Because the, I don't know if I have the strength to do it was, i don't know if I have the strength to kill you to move to the dark side to take down the four... Like... That's really like the fan theories that were going on, which would have been way smarter than just, I don't know if I have the strength to kill you because I'm a whiny little bitch. And it's and so the 8 and 9 just makes 7 so much worse. But at the time, i enjoyed it also because...
01:38:17
Speaker
Even with Last Jedi, visually, these movies are actually gorgeous. They are very well shot. They are gorgeous movies. But, yeah, the plots are fucking terrible. And obviously, they had no cohesive plan because, honestly, these movies exposed J.J. Abrams as a terrible writer.
01:38:36
Speaker
I don't think, like... Cause I he didn't write this. He just copied four. Well, yeah. Yeah. Switch the name. But I, I remember I heard that apparently JJ Abrams never writes the ending to anything he writes. Like he's, he can't write an ending. and he He'll ask all these mystery box questions is the term that's been ah coined by, cause I think lost was the same. He wrote lost and he asked a million questions of who was this, who was this, who was this, but he never answers anything. He's not a good writer. And yeah,
01:39:05
Speaker
It shows because J.J. Abrams, I think he's leaving Hollywood. I think people are starting to realize, oh, you're not very good at your job, are you? So, yeah, I just... i wanted i I was so excited for this movie when it came out. It was visually gorgeous. like I still remember the see having the credits come down and it goes down. You see the you see the ship come across. like the It eclipses a planet. You're like, ooh, this is so cool. Then they go down onto the planet and it just looks good. But yeah, it's a horrible fucking movie. But yeah, I just...
01:39:36
Speaker
I think after talking about it, I i think Sean's right. I think attacking the clothes is better than this. I'm going to keep it. it where I'm going to keep it on the list as is obviously we're going through it, but I mean, thankfully it's tied right now. So I don't, I don't, I don't know, but I'm going to stick to my right. I just, this movie, let me in hindsight, it's just, I rewatch them all. I rewatched them all recently. oh I did a year or two ago. It's even worse.
The Phantom Menace's Mixed Legacy
01:39:59
Speaker
So let me give some bars here for this. So The Force Awakens, I thought it was good. Did I did i give the scores? So, ah Sean, you had a 10. Hodge, 7-7, and Lock, 4. So, yeah, I i mean, it's basically a shot-for-shot remake of 4, right? I think Kylo Ren is an awesome villain, other than being a little bit of a whiny bitch. But I think he's awesome. I love his mask. um I like his lightsaber. It took me a little while to warm up to his lightsaber, but now I really do like it. I think it's pretty cool. um That scene at first where he comes out and he uses the force to literally stop the blaster bolts was freaking sweet. It was really cool. um But yeah, and then of course, you know, he's they got to stop the droid and get the the plans escape on the droid and then they go find the new hero. and but It's just so it's kind of weird, um but it's a beautifully shot film. Great CG. Ray Ray is semi hot. That's a plus. Yeah. You know, i couldn't hate this this movie because it was basically just a new hope, but for a new generation. Right. What I hate is where they went with it.
01:41:00
Speaker
That's what I hate. They completely ruined what could have been. it was funny when this movie came out, all of my friends were glazing and everyone was like on on Facebook because, you know, that's what everyone was using Facebook back then. Everyone on Facebook was like, oh, this is the best movie ever. Oh, my God. The Force Awakens is so good. And I was one of the only people hating on this movie. I was like, guys, what are you talking about? This movie was just OK. This I was like, this movie was literally a shot for shot remake of A New Hope. And everybody at the time when this movie was brand new in theaters, they they didn't see it. They were arguing with me. they were like, no, it wasn't. This movie it was great. I was coping a little with that. yeah Yeah. I'm like, no. And I literally had to break it down. And I'm like, but. sorry
01:41:36
Speaker
Yeah, but like, anyway, so The Force Awakens, yeah that's enough of that. i think it's I think it's a little bit better than Attack of the Clones, personally, for me, um just because I didn't care that much about the villain in Attack of the Clones. It's horribly acted, and the CG has aged terribly, but they're close. They're really close.
01:41:55
Speaker
All right. Next up, can I guess what's next? Yes, guess. i It's either going to be Phantom Menace or Rogue One. You're right.
01:42:06
Speaker
Which one though? Double down, double down. Which one? I'm going to say Phantom Menace. You are correct. At number six, Phantom Menace.
01:42:16
Speaker
Now let's see what the scores were for this. And I am on the right list, by the way. This is the trio now. I'm not messing up no more. ah Episode one, Phantom Menace. Sean, you had it at four. Hodge, six. Me, six. And then randomly, for no reason, Lockmark, six.
01:42:31
Speaker
But our trio score, that's a 5.33, puts it at number six, Phantom Menace. um Hodge, what did you think of Phantom Menace? Give us some bars for this. So I understand i have a little bit of nostalgia glasses for this one, but I love this movie. I genuinely love this movie. the one thing I will say, so as a kid, I unabashedly loved everything about it. Every second of this movie I loved as a kid, except I thought Jar Jar was a little annoying as an adult. I love every second of it, except Jar Jar is the most annoying fucking character in any movie ever made. And I hate him and I want him to die. Yeah.
01:43:05
Speaker
Can I just say real quick? Yeah. I just want to say I think we all agree here. We are now entering here in this in this top six. We are now entering good film territory. All six of these are good. The previous fives? Everything but Rogue One for me.
01:43:20
Speaker
oh guy Okay, okay. Well, yeah in my in my opinion, and I think most people's opinion, these six are all very good films. The previous five that we talked about were mid to bad. think Attack of the Clone is good, that's just fine.
01:43:32
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway. um Yeah. So I, I love pod racing. I know it's kind of dumb to like use 30 minutes of a movie doing pod racing kind of thing. Like I get that, but, was and, and, and I will say just second, second only to Jar Jar Binks.
01:43:50
Speaker
I hate that it ruined his life, but Jake yu horrible actor. horrible Horrible. Horrible. Yeah. And I feel so bad because he also he's also in Jingle All the Way, which is a great Christmas movie that I love.
01:44:03
Speaker
Terrible in both of these movies. He is just a bad actor. I so i hate i I feel so bad that like ruined his life. He got bullied to like shit where he like turned to drugs and stuff like he hated the fact that he was in Star Wars like and all that. So like I feel so bad for him, but he's terrible as Anakin. Like it should have been like a teenage Anakin. It shouldn't have been a child. Like, I don't know why they did that. Also, I don't like that.
01:44:28
Speaker
They, this was the first time, obviously with the, being the prequels that they basically turned the Jedi. It was always like a religion quote unquote of the Jedi. but they turned them into like monks where it's like any emotion you have will be, you mean you're evil. And it's like, no, like in the original trilogy, it was like, just don't succumb to your bad thoughts. But it's not like, it's not like Luke Skywalker didn't have a bad day. Like obviously at the end of we'll get to it, but like he gives, he has a little rageful moments and that's normal. And so the fact that it was basically like, you must be Zen all the time. There's no emotion in the Jedi. It's like, all right, come on. But obviously, and then obviously Darth Maul,
01:45:06
Speaker
awesome there's he's the coolest again like you said duel the fates is one of the greatest songs ever it's so good i there's so much love about this movie i understand people's complaints with it the cgi is terrible but it was in 99 this movie or 98 98 or 99 i'm blanking 99 that's right i was eight and it was 99 it came out But yeah, I love this movie, even though it's I understand when people say it's not good, but I think it's better than people give it credit for. Just the CGI and Jar Jar and Jake Lloyd are my biggest complaints with it. But overall, I.
01:45:41
Speaker
I like and I mean, just I guess the Gungans in general are all annoying as shit. They're all really annoying characters. But yeah, overall, I like this movie. So here's here's what here's what I think. I think the good the good in this movie is really, really good. The bad is really bad. But I think the good greatly always. I think anything that is like Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, anything that is like that, I think it's awesome. i think it's really, really good. I think they do a great job. I know people like, oh, all the politics. I think it's super fascinating how it's like the're like the politics of the galaxy. It's about the rise of the empire. Yes, I think it's super. And you can see the seeds that Palpatine is planting like early on. and I think it's awesome, especially because like as a kid.
01:46:22
Speaker
Like, my dad showed me them in episode one. He showed me it like that. And so I didn't know who this guy was. So, like, I'm like, who is, like, oh this is so, like, I thought it was super cool. I think it's awesome.
01:46:33
Speaker
For me, what I think they should have I don't think they should have introduced Anakin until, like, here's how I would have done it. You keep Darth Maul alive, Darth Maul gets away. At the end of the movie, Liam Neeson, they they get word of this kid on, um,
01:46:48
Speaker
Tatooine. Tatooine. What? Yeah, i know. I just got Tatooine. On Tatooine who is like, kind of like they think he might be force sensitive and that's how the movie ends. They end going to Tatooine and they find Anakin there.
01:46:59
Speaker
That's how I think it should have been. I think it it would have been infinitely better and I still think it's a great movie if they solely focused on just Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon and their relationship and how they grow. And I think they should have kept Qui-Gon alive for one more movie.
01:47:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. The way it would have been better. The way I think about the prequels, I think that Obi Wan and Anakin should have been about the same age as young adults, because in the in the original trilogy, he says, like, I fought in the Clone Wars with your dad and all that, which obviously they didn't.
01:47:31
Speaker
you know, doing the prequels, but I think it would have been better if it was like, they were both the same age and one kind of went good. One kind of went bad. Or if like, Obi-Wan was just like a little bit older, just like a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. couple of years. Cause I just don't think he should have been a kid that felt cause especially with like, he's too old to begin the training. I'm like, so you're saying that if any kid is older than two years old, you're not training them to be a Jedi. That's just so quickly for the second one. Like he aged, it seemed like it aged him so quickly.
01:47:57
Speaker
It's like a 10 year time jump almost. Yeah. Yeah. yeah it's it's Oh, and then he falls in love with Padme and it's like, it's kind of weird. Who wouldn't though? I mean, who wouldn't though? No, but it's kind of weird because in in episode one, she's kind of like already grown. it's it's She looks like she's Anakin. It's just weird. She's like a young adult. Yeah, yeah like she doesn't age, but everyone else does.
01:48:20
Speaker
Yeah. But like I said, I think she was like 15 or 16 or something in that movie. i But i like, like i said, I think the good is really good. and I think the bad is like Jar Jar Binks is horrendous. yeah so it's i think Yeah, I think Phantom Menace was pretty awesome. For some reason, I feel like Phantom Menace had better CG than Episode 2. Yes, I think it did too. Well, it's like I said, in Episode 1, they had actual sets. They had practical effects. Yeah, they had practical sets. In Episode 2, I don't know if they had any practical sets. they might I think a big reason why too, about Episode 1 having more practical sets is because the technology at the time was probably limited CGI-wise. They probably didn't have the CGI. Yeah.
01:48:58
Speaker
at the time. yeah But yeah, no. yeah so Good stuff. Good music. like all right ah yeah My turn. I want to get some bars off. So yeah, Phantom Menace. I thought it it was awesome. I had this at my number six. um This is a really good movie.
01:49:14
Speaker
um I love it. I really like, of course, Queen Amidala and Padme's awesome. um You know, the whole Naboo stuff was cool. The only negative really about this entire movie was the whole was Jar Jar and the Gungans were annoying. Oh, no, no.
01:49:29
Speaker
But what's funny is they they kind of redeem the Gungans a little bit in the Clone Wars. like You like them a little bit more if you watch the Clone Wars. because They're probably not as fun. They're more helpful and cooler. yeah but ah But yeah, but i mean this this movie was just awesome. um I love those you know the scene where the Jedi are handling Sith Lords as our specialty. like That's an awesome line. Of course, then he dies right after. it was was really cool. I think Sith Lords is our specialty.
01:49:54
Speaker
Yeah, dude it was just so it was just so cool seeing Star Wars back. I was so hype. Jedis were like peak peak. You wanted to be one back then. So cool seeing Qui-Gon and and and Obi-Wan.
01:50:09
Speaker
And Darth Maul was the best villain ever. They shouldn't have killed him. The duel of the fates, the music, like you said, was incredible. um I agree with you. That would have been cooler if Darth Maul had just escaped. um And yeah, that would have been sweet. um The pod racing was also really cool. um It was 30 minutes, but I enjoyed it. Everything about this movie, other than the Gungans, was great. Even the Gungans was all right. I remember when they had that scene where they were being chased by the fish, and then the fish gets eight, and he's like, there's always a bigger fish. Yeah. And the concept of Gungans isn't bad. It's just the fact that they made them sound fucking stupid.
01:50:42
Speaker
Like They're all like, Oh, me, more dog I fish, man. Like, all right, we don't need to talk like that. Yeah. Yeah. If they just had normal accents, it would have been fine. But yeah, instead they're like, Oh, you saw Jaja Binks. It's like, okay. You had a six-year-old Anakin rising up, you know, 16-year-old Padme. Yeah. in there That was, that was, that was weird with the age gap. Yeah. but Yeah. yeah But it was great, man. It was really awesome. Shout out to that movie. um
Rogue One's Standalone Appeal
01:51:13
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We want to move on? yes
01:51:14
Speaker
Yeah. All right. So at number five, we had Rogue One, Sean. So for Rogue One, you had it at seven for you. Hodge, you had it at five. I had it at number three.
01:51:28
Speaker
That's right. Number three. Number three. Randomly, I'll just say Lock and Word had at number one. Very surprising. It's easily the best Disney movie, but that's that's not saying much. um me has It is 1,000% the best Disney movie. Yeah, it's definitely the best Disney movie. I think it's it's a tier above all the other Disney. It's definitely a tier above the other Disney movies. they They do have some cool concepts, but I think –
01:51:56
Speaker
Who's the black guy in it who dies really quickly? What is his name? I don't know. I can't remember his name. The one who's like, he's like an eye patch.
01:52:07
Speaker
Grief, Grief Cardo. I don't remember, but they killed him off way too early. Like he was, they they set him up like he was supposed to be this like big, you know, protector. They they set him up. they They kill him off way too early. That's not Grief.
01:52:20
Speaker
That's from Mandalorian era. Are you talking about Forrest Whitaker's character? Maybe. That's it. Saw Gerrera? Saw Gerrera. don't know. All I know at this point, I was kind of already checking out of Star Wars. I was like, all right, guys. like this is I thought the concept was cool. Like, oh, we need we this plans for the Death Star.
01:52:37
Speaker
But again, i don't think I really needed to – I don't think people were wondering like – Like, how do they get the plans? for this Yeah, I will. I'll give you that, that its it was a story that we didn't need to tell. But I there and I remember the first time I saw it, I was like, that was pretty good. And then i remember my favorite scene was the Darth Vader scene at the end because it was so epic. That was so cool to show how powerful Darth Vader is. They re-shot the opening to four, basically. But if that's the best scene, I will give you this. If that's the best scene in the movie, the best scene in the movie is just member berries, which shouldn't be the best part of your movie. But they did do that a couple times, which was stupid. like They bump into the guys from the Mos Eisley bar. Like, oh, I'm going to kill you. It's like, all right, we didn't need to do that. like But... um
01:53:22
Speaker
I will say that there's a lot I love about this movie because it was just a really good war movie, really, like a kind of a war heist movie. But there was some cringe humor. Some of the characters were kind of like, what? But overall, I thought it was just a great movie. And obviously it led to Andor, which is even better. I also don't like, me I also, one thing I didn't like is that the guy, the guy who built the Death Star, he, he like, he's like, oh, I'm gonna put this weakness in because like, I'm angry with like, like, like come on. Like, yeah yeah If you're building the Death Star, come on, you're getting someone, you're getting someone you can trust. Not this guy.
01:53:54
Speaker
All right. You're getting someone you can trust. on Palpatine. Well, I guess that was the point of it is that they, that he tricked them into thinking he was part of the empire and, In the end, he get put the weakness on the desk. Dude, you have the force. You can't read his freaking mind.
01:54:09
Speaker
Come on. The only thing I will say is it's kind of dumb that they made it like, I put this here on purpose, wink, wink. like It's like, all right. you know like The fact that they found that there's an exhaust port should be enough. It should be like, it's just a flaw in the thing. like It shouldn't be like, I put this here on purpose so you can blow it up by shooting a direct missile directly at this. Because that is such a complex thing.
01:54:34
Speaker
like thing to be like, I hope you guys have someone a really good aim. Cause if you don't like the reason why Luke is able to do it is because he uses the force. like So they had to bank on an X-Wing fighter using the force to destroy the story of the Death Star. I don't like that. It should have been a flaw. That's a big thing for me. Like, that's a big thing for this movie. It's like how, like, I think it is egregious that they would use this guy to build it. Like, i don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
01:55:04
Speaker
yeah I think Rogue One was pretty awesome. I think it was an awesome story. I love the characters. Of course, it ah you know the Andor spawned off from it, the series. Andor takes place before it, so you can watch the Andor series and then watch Rogue One. Brought to you by Disney+. plus yeah Yeah. So I thought this was good. I loved all the characters. um It was a cool heist, basically. And they got the that they got the the plans to the Death Star, and then they had their little epic moment at the end. We're looking at the sunset, you know? And i thought it was really good. And of course, you know, the member berries with Darth Vader at the end, like you said, how they reshot ah him entering the ship.
01:55:43
Speaker
Badass. Made him super strong and powerful, which is sweet. Yeah. um But yeah, I think I think we get said what we needed to. Well, really quickly also before we move on. This was also like the first example of them using CGI to bring back characters. And it was very bad. Tarkin and Leia.
01:55:59
Speaker
Those were very bad. Leia was way worse than Tarkin. I thought Tarkin looked OK, but Leia looked horrible. That was a funny story. One of my friends was like, can't believe that guy's still alive. I go, dude, it's not him.
01:56:12
Speaker
That's what my mom said. She goes, he's still alive. I'm like, no, that's. Yeah. He hasn't aged a bit since the eighties. Yeah. He was, he was old as shit in 1977. When the movie. Smoking dust. Yeah. 50 years later, he's still alive. and taken Yeah. There were 40 years. i think it was at that point.
01:56:28
Speaker
Yeah. right.
Revenge of the Sith's Epic Conclusion
01:56:30
Speaker
all right, boys. Number four, Revenge of the Sith, episode three. So with this one here, Revenge of the Sith, Sean, you had it at five. Hodge, number four, and I had it at five. So with this here, let me start this time here.
01:56:45
Speaker
So episode three, Revenge of the Sith, definitely the best of the prequel trilogy by far. um This movie was pretty awesome. um I thought it had the best acting of the three movies. I thought Hayden Christensen was much better. Yeah.
01:57:00
Speaker
much better. This ad, everything was awesome about this film other than Padme dying of sadness, which made zero sense. We talked about this before. It completely invalidates everything about her character. Padme's character is all about her being a fighter and completely fearless and never giving up and being a badass, especially if you watch like clone wars and stuff, which I think came after. But anyway, like she's always doing stuff and like never giving up and like killing people and like,
01:57:26
Speaker
uncovering plots and stuff but oh oh she's sad because my husband turned bad well what about these two awesome kids that you got doesn't that give you a reason to live no i'm still sad i'm gonna die yeah like they should have they should have had her get injured in the fight or something like maybe she got hit by some debris or something and died that would have made a lot more sense well it would what would have made the most sense is if anakin accidentally killed her out of anger like him were getting so angry and they had to like immediately do the childbirth right there because of that And then she died. Yeah. Or if they say sliced her and they go, they bring her in and they're like, we're going to save you, but the kids are going to die. And she says, no, save the kids. That would have been better.
01:58:05
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. let Let us not forget one of the most iconic and one of my favorite scenes of all time was when Anakin finally does the right thing, if you will, and he goes to Mace Windu and says, hey, the Chancellor is a Sith Lord. yeah I'm pretty sure. And so Mace pulls up. This was so awesome when Mace pulls up with three other Jedis. He's like, Chancellor, by order of the Jedi Council, you are under arrest. And he's like...
01:58:29
Speaker
He's like, you know, oh he says, by order of the Galactic Senate, you're under arrest. And the chancellor's like, I am the Senate. I am the Senate. it And he's like, not anymore. He's like, it's treason then. And they pull out their four lightsabers. And then, dude, Mace Windu's death scene. Oh, my God. He falls so high up from the glass. Oh, my God.
01:58:52
Speaker
yeah Arguably, this only like that this movie has the best scene in the entire prequel trilogy. The fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Unbelievable scene. Oh, yeah. Yeah, on Mustafar. Unbelievable scene. I have the high ground!
01:59:04
Speaker
yeah I can't think what the song's called. song. Dude, John Williams, the goat. Did anyone else anyone else find it a little bit weird and interesting, though, how fast those other three Jedi died? like Oh, yeah. And one of them was Kit Fisto, and I love Kit Fisto. Yeah, and he's a semi-main character, kind of. He died in the background, too.
01:59:30
Speaker
Yeah, he's awesome. but Also, when they do ah execute on a 66, what a sad scene when you you see the clone troopers going, yep, yep, yep. And then also did this turns out shooting the Jedi. Oh, how about the one Jedi who looks around is like, ah, crap.
01:59:46
Speaker
yeah I can see like he knows it's coming. He's like, ah. I will say I hate that. I think this might. i don't know if this was Disney or if it was before Disney took over. I hate that they retconned it to be like it was a chip in their brain that made them do it. yeah It should have there were clones and that's what they were. They were born they were and they were built they were to follow Palpatine's orders. That's what it should be.
02:00:08
Speaker
But the fact that they made it like it was a chip in their brain. I'm like, oh, that's because oh It's because they wanted to, it's because in like the clone wars whatever, they wanted to have the one who had the big bushy white beard, like the good guy, commander Cody, whatever his name was. I can't remember, but because they wanted some good clones. And so they did that. So like that, they were able to beat the programming. And I was like, it's, stupid but could that was That was so epic, though, because Mace Windu was my favorite yeah new era Jedi. I love Mace Windu. And of course, if you're familiar with the lore, Mace Windu was supposedly the strongest Jedi of all with a lightsaber.
02:00:43
Speaker
Like, he was the best duelist. So that was awesome. Him versus Palpatine. And he beats Palpatine. only reason why he The only reason why he loses is because Anakin comes in and Anakin saves Palpatine because he's worried about Padme dying thanks to the Dark Side Force dreams. yeah so Another amazing scene.
02:01:00
Speaker
is when Yoda, of course, confronts Palpatine in the Senate. And they the Palpatine's like throwing the Senate platforms down on him and stuff. That was incredible, too. yeah Because I was wondering that. I'm like, well, how the hell did they get away from Yoda? But they showed how. And it was it was plausible, at least. you know He had the high ground. He throwing shit on him and was able to escape. Yeah. The, um, the other thing with Mace Windu is in between episodes two and three, there was a clone wars cartoon. This is before the CGI one. Great cartoon.
02:01:33
Speaker
In fear. Yeah. This one was so good. And there's an episode where Mace Windu alone takes out an entire droid army. It is so cool that he does that. Uh, and So he takes out this whole army and then he almost kills Grievous by himself. Also, he's like Mace when it was awesome.
02:01:54
Speaker
But before we move on quickly, i just want to also say there, I think with the Padme stuff, it almost felt, i mean, like we said, they could have done in other ways, but it was definitely, it felt like a, we need to lead the episode four. So all this stuff has to happen. Yeah. like so yeah It did. happen right out I think they ran out of time.
02:02:12
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. But it was awesome. I think they did a great job connecting the the series. It was awesome. And again, really quick before the way would have done it, like I said, I hate that the Jedi were monks who like couldn't show emotion or fall in love and stuff. I think what should happened is Anakin and Padme should have been able to fall in love and Luke and Leia should have already been born and like kids because in episode six, there's a line where Leia says, I barely remember my mother. I just remember she's very beautiful. And obviously she wouldn't remember anything if she died. No, she wouldn't. So, right.
02:02:42
Speaker
It's impossible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also
Return of the Jedi and Vader's Redemption
02:02:45
Speaker
too, it, you know, he says only a SIF deals and absolutes. That's an absolute statement. So yeah, but anyway, let's keep it moving guys here because we are under a little bit of a time crunch here. So we're going to move on to number three and it is Jedi in return of the Jedi. Yeah. So return of the Jedi, ah Sean, you had it at two Hodge three, me four.
02:03:07
Speaker
So that's why it ended up where it did. Return of the Jedi, Sean. I think it has one of my favorite scenes of the original trilogy is when Luke comes to Jabba's palace. Like that is such a cool scene. Like he just comes in. He's like, like he's showing that he has like kind of like the dark side. You see him kind change a little. He's wearing all black symbolism that, you know, something definitely changed. He's definitely pissed off about episode five. at the end of Empire. He's definitely pissed off by that. I love how he tricks Jabba, thinks that he tricks him into falling into the pit. What does he kill? What is that thing called again? Rancor. I love that. I love the scene where they're outside and it's like R2-D2 throws him the lightsaber. That is so cool. Yeah, I think that whole Jabba's palace scene awesome.
02:03:58
Speaker
And then the reveal of the green lightsaber. That is so cool. Yep. It is really cool. I like that. yeah I like the green lightsaber. um With Return of the Jedi, so I rewatched the Star Wars movies yeah yeah probably about a year or two ago. um And as a kid, Return of the Jedi was my favorite of the of the trilogy. and But as an adult, I went back and watched it, and then you realize which one's the best, which we'll get to. But ah because as a kid, obviously you love the Ewoks because they're cute little you know fluffy guys, but... When I rewatched it, I was like, this movie is legitimately a perfect movie other than the Ewoks. Because the story of Luke going to going to ah face off against Vader while they all fight the Empire and stuff is so good and so well done because it's so...
02:04:47
Speaker
Luke is so close to being tempted to the dark side, but then they even show, I talked i remember reading about it, they show it's symbolic of he's wearing all black to show that he's lee heading towards the dark side. And while he's fighting Vader, it slips open and there's white underneath. And that's like literally the symbol of him that the light is coming out. And he so he stays good. Yeah. It's so, so well done. And so if, if honestly, if not for like the Ewoks and kind of the corniness of like these little teddy bears taking down an empire, other than that, this movie is like a perfect movie.
02:05:20
Speaker
Yeah. So let me give some quick bars here. So this, this movie was awesome. Absolutely. Almost flawless. um I love the scene at the end, of course, where Darth Vader turns to the good side um because, you know, you got Sidious is shocking the hell out of Luke and almost killing him and would have killed him. I'm sure. And Vader picks him up and throws him down the exhaust vent or whatever. That's awesome. I think,
02:05:44
Speaker
does The stupid there can only be two Sith rule is basically what un what did in Palpatine. Actually, I think Palpatine maybe could have had a chance to get Luke to turn if instead of saying kill your father and join me at my side, if he had changed that to say join your father and us three, let's rule the the Empire together, maybe Luke might have might have went for that. you know He might have wanted to be with his father and you know did that. But nope, that's not how it works with the Sith. you know He wasn't going to kill his father, so there you I only be two.
02:06:13
Speaker
Great film, great film. I'll keep it there because we got to keep it moving. Any other thoughts on that one? No, great. Just great movie. in All right. Number two, A New Hope, the first movie, right? So on this one here, Sean three, me and ah me and Hodge two. This is obviously the first one. It's a great opening. It you know starts out with Vader raiding the ship. The plans escape. It's awesome. You meet Luke. He runs into old Ben. He gets the lightsaber. It's an awesome coming of age and story. You know, he gets his power eventually.
02:06:49
Speaker
Obi-Wan dies in front of Luke, of course. um It's just awesome, dude. It's great. It's that's a perfect setup for to what's going to come. It's a great film. Super cool.
02:07:00
Speaker
Really no knocks. I have virtually no knocks to this. It's it's a perfect setup film, I feel like.
A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back Praise
02:07:05
Speaker
Definitely. no really Great, great setup film. I think it's so cool how you know Luke's rise to becoming a Jedi. He barely doesn't really even use the lightsaber in this. He just kind of trains with it. He has that one scene where he's training. it's funny like he yeah You can tell he's like reluctant to believe in the Force. like He doesn't want to believe in it.
02:07:24
Speaker
Well, yeah, because Han talks about like oh your old weird religion or whatever. like yeah The Jedi don't exist. And Han shot first. Han always shoots first. yeah yeah But um with with no with ah this one, it was originally meant to just be a one-off movie. There was no sequel. It was really just called called Star Wars. I looked it up because can't remember what year it was. It was when it was theatrically re-released in 81, which is four years later, that they called it Episode 4.
02:07:53
Speaker
And so obviously in this one, Luke isn't related to Leia because he's like, oh, she's pretty. And they they kiss and everything. she's like, for luck. Yeah. all that. And then at the end, the only reason why they had Darth Vader like fly away in his TIE fighter is because they wanted to leave it open for a sequel because he defeats him and destroys the Death Star, which is supposed to end, you know, save the universe and everything. And so it was supposed to be this little one off film. And as itself, it's awesome. It's just the next movie, which obviously everyone can do the math of what number one is. It's just better. yeah but But this movie. Yeah, I love this movie. Everything about this movie. It's so everything but Chewie not getting a medal.
02:08:30
Speaker
yeah Yeah, she stiffs him up. And then in episode 9, they try doing, oh, do you deserve this? And it's like, okay, good yeah good job. but yeah now yeah This movie is great, it's just the next one's even better. yes and all right Speaking of which, at number 1,
02:08:47
Speaker
Empire strikes back. And the consensus was 1-1-1 from all three of us. yeah Locke, interestingly, had it at 2 because he had Rogue One at 1 for some reason. but anyway But for us, that matters. The GOP trio ranking is number one Empire.
02:09:02
Speaker
Couldn't agree more. Awesome film. Training with Yoda in the swamps. Freaking sweet. How he uses the Force to pull out the freaking X-Wing from the swamp. That was awesome. He fights Darth Vader. Luke, I am your father. and cuts off his hands and stuff.
02:09:18
Speaker
It's just an awesome movie, man. All around. Yeah. I will. What more can say? I will say, I will say as a kid, this was my least favorite of the trilogy because as it's so, it's so dark and deep as a kid, you're just kind of like, I like the fluffy, you know, teddy bears in the first one. And this is him doing this in the first one. Like, so. this one was just always the one that was like, it's good, but like, I prefer the other two. But then as an adult, you see all the themes in this movie. And because this one wasn't directed by, it might've been somewhat written by George Lucas. Like it was written by other people. And it shows because of how good the world building is. Like when he gets to Dagobah, he's trying to find Yoda. And it obviously turns out to be the little weirdo who's like annoying him and stuff like that. Like there's so much good. And like the trap of, Luke thinking he's going to save his friends, but it's a trap to get him there so Darth Vader can fight him. Lando turning on his friends to save his, like, he's like, well, I got people to think about here too. Like he's thinking about, he's thinking about the people he protects.
02:10:16
Speaker
It's yeah, it's, it's such a good, I didn't have a choice. Let's be honest. What's he going to do with Darth Vader, you know? Yeah. And he kind of has his cake. You need to, in a little bit where it's like, they let him take Han, he goes, I'm going help you now though. Like yeah I'm going to get you guys off of here. Just get away. But I had to do the Han stuff to save my own ass and all that kind of stuff. And yeah, yeah it's just, it's, it's, it's a perfect movie. Like I, there's genuinely, I love this movie. It's a perfect movie. Yeah.
02:10:43
Speaker
Yeah. <unk>s i'm trying to remember um you know han comes in and he shoots at darth vader sitting at the thing does does he yeah he made her stop the blaster board laststerborn he just use it puts his hand up and i think it hits his hand whatever but yeah he uses the force to just stops yeah he just use and then and then he yeah and then he pulls the gun a gun yeah because i love the internet's like i love this just how badass han is the first instinct i'm just gonna shoot the shit out of you yeah like it's so good yeah Yeah. But yeah, again, like I said, as a kid, it's such a dark movie with such good, like It's a movie about the Empire Rising.
02:11:15
Speaker
again Yeah. And so as a kid, I was like, eh, but as an adult, you realize how masterful of a movie this is. It's so, really good so good Yeah. I'm trying to think if I have anything else. Also, hot Hoth is just such a cool planet. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the battle and stuff. It's so cool opening with the Wampa or whatever. Yeah, yeah's yeah and the Tauntaun. He's hanging upside down. i thought these things smelled bad. I thought these things smelled bad on the outside.
02:11:41
Speaker
Oh, well, that too. I'm talking about when he's in the cave. Yeah, the Wampa. And he's hanging upside down. He uses the force to get his lightsaber and just barely cuts its arm off. yeah it's so Yeah, it's so good. Yeah. Amazing movie. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Awesome.
02:11:56
Speaker
All right. Well, there you go. So let's go through it. So here is the consensus ranking, guys. Tied at number 10, Rise of Skywalker and The Last Jedi. Amazing movie. Tied at number seven, Solo, Attack of the Clones, and Force Awakens.
02:12:10
Speaker
At number six, Phantom Menace. At number five, Rogue One. Number four, Revenge of the Sith. Number three, Return of the Jedi. Number two, A New Hope. And at number one, Empire Strikes Back.
Wrap-up and Final Thoughts
02:12:23
Speaker
That is the official list, and there will be no arguments because we have spoken. Oh, but no. Leave in the comments if you disagree. Let us know. Yeah. And fun fact about Return the Jedi. It was originally supposed to be called Revenge of the Jedi, but then they said Jedi wouldn't do revenge, so they changed it to Return of the I think Return's a better name, honestly. Yeah.
02:12:46
Speaker
yeah All right. Well, there you go. So this has been episode 63 of Games Over Plastic. Let's go around and give our final thoughts. Hodge, what are your final thoughts, sir?
02:12:57
Speaker
Man, Star Wars, when it's good, it's great. I love this franchise so much. I wish Disney would actually make good shit again because it's been so bad for so long at this point that it makes me sad knowing that this used to be one of my favorite. Like these games we talked about and obviously the great movies. it's this mo This is my childhood. I love Star Wars so much and I just want it to be great again. But for now, make Star Wars great again. win Exactly. That's right. I need a I need a Muswa hat.
02:13:26
Speaker
Yeah. Or misswhile Miss. Well, this will go. They got rid of Kathleen Kennedy, right? So maybe there will be hope for them Dave Filoni took over for her, who is not any better. So what's he known for? he you know for me He invented he was a writer on like Clone Wars and he made Ahsoka. The damage is done. Yeah, he's he's not any better. So they need to get someone good. Damn it. Yeah. But put Sean in charge. Yeah.
02:13:50
Speaker
All right. Sean, final thoughts, sir? If it was up to me, I would destroy everything Disney touched and just start over. Yeah. make and And anything they've taken. Except for Rogue One. Anything they've taken from, because they brought in of the blue guy, i can't think of his name right now, Thrawn. Like, they brought in people from the the stuff that they decanonized, and they make them worse. It's like, no, the Legends, Star Wars Legends should be what's canon, not this Disney crap. so Yeah.
02:14:16
Speaker
All right. My final thoughts are thank you guys. Leave comments, subscribe. We love you. And like I said, this has been Games Over Plastic. We're going to get on out of here. Goodbye. Bye. I've had the time of my life and I owe it all to you.
02:14:35
Speaker
We just got demonetized. Great.