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New season, who dis? 📱🤔🤭
For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- Jack Flag 🚩 StarHawk ⭐🪶
- 🌌 En Sabah Nur ⚔️ Isca the Unbeated 🪖 Juggernaut Horseman of War
- post-Sanctum thoughts 💭
- 🫰 Weeks in Snap!!
- Secret Homework 🤫: Jessica Jones/Mantis redesigns 🪲
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Featured decks:
- Lauren - Isca99 (this deck is expensive, but there are tons of viable substitutions)
Credits:
- Cover art by Lauren
- Snap On This!! Theme by Ben
- YouTube thumbnail by Lauren’s kid, Reggi
- Thumbnail portraits by Adam Star
Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 Intro / Last Week's Cards
- 0:06:47 En Sabah Nur
- 0:12:27 Isca the Unbeaten
- 0:23:19 Juggernaut, Horseman of War
- 0:27:08 Gambit, Horseman of Death
- 0:33:15 Our Week in Snap
- 0:54:46 Secret Homework: Give Mantis or Jessica Jones an Objective Glow-Up
- 1:07:04 Next Week's Secret Homework
- 1:07:51 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Snap on This' Podcast
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome to Snap on This, a Marvel Snap podcast. This week's secret homework, give Jessica Jones an objective. I'm Lauren Whadevs here with my usual amazing, delightful co-hosts.
Superpower Choices Discussion
00:00:12
Speaker
First up this week, it's Rhi.
00:00:15
Speaker
Rhi, a magical and trustworthy fairy has appeared before you. She will give you any single superpower of your choice, but you only have a few seconds to pick and you don't get to give any explanation.
00:00:26
Speaker
She's not trying to trick you. She's just super busy. What do you wish for? Go. Flying. I mean, no, no explanation. You're done. She poofs you away and you
Exploring Superpower Implications
00:00:37
Speaker
can fly. Ben, our other cohost, same question, but by virtue of going second, you get a little bit more time to think about it, but she still won't tolerate any wavering unlimited super speed.
00:00:49
Speaker
Yep. Did hear correctly? I didn't even know to think about it. She's not above clarification. Okay. Poof. Gone. You have it. My pick would be some sort of time manipulation. Okay. On to the snap content.
00:01:03
Speaker
It was a competition and you lost. Well, okay, but you had the most time to think about it This is like a Worshak test. It's like, what do you see immediately? You know? yeah well So I really only wanted the super speed to give me effectively time manipulation, you know? Oh! You know, we didn't have time to like get deep into the details because it was snap shooter rules where the fairy was going to get really upset with us if we asked any follow-up questions. hence h she would have She would have done bad things if you took too long. um Or if you explained.
Marvel Snap Cards: Jack Flag and Starhawk
00:01:38
Speaker
Okay, with that done, we're going to talk about last week's cards, Jack Flag and Starhawk. We don't have a ton to say about them, but we had a little bit of lively discussion before the show. Enough that I think we should tell you about it.
00:01:53
Speaker
First up, Jack Flag, 3-3 ongoing. Your cards here with increased power have plus two power. I think we can just talk about these together. Starhawk 2-2 on reveal on odd turns. Give your cards at the left location plus one power on even... I think they actually updated this text, and this is the old text, but it still does the same thing. just yeah On odd turns, it gives your left location plus one power. On even turns, it gives your right location plus one power. But it only ever does it once. It's not repeating. It's not a surge. It's just a one-time on reveal that changes. Kind of like old Snowguard, if you were here for that.
00:02:26
Speaker
Anyway... what do you think about these cards? What did, what have we, where have we seen them? I've seen Jack flag in some of my own decks. I like the card. I don't know if this is the meta for it to really shine its brightest. um It is a big commitment to a single lane, unless you're spitting the power out somewhere else, say with Maverick, but a cool, cool little guy might play him on Saturday. Might not play him on Saturday. It's all up in the air. Still haven't committed to a deck.
Golden Gauntlet Competition Insights
00:02:58
Speaker
Are you competing in this Golden Gauntlet? Oh, always. unless i I mean, always unless I've already qualified. i qualified in the second qualifier last time, so I did not play in the third one because that seemed unsporting. But but yeah, until I qualify, I will keep playing in all of them. you Oh, I think they totally encourage and support you to go as many times as you want. You know, this competitive players only have so much outlet.
00:03:21
Speaker
Yeah, but you're taking opportunities away from other people who haven't qualified yet. yeah I don't think so. It feels unsorting. I don't know how that math works. Anyway. That's just my personal opinion. I'm not judging anyone who did that or would do that in the future. That is up to you. It's just how I feel about my actions. I would not feel good about Yeah, I think all of us, me for sure, had Jack Flag as best card of the season.
00:03:47
Speaker
um Or at least we we were high on him. I think he still may end up being the best card of the season once they nerf Star-Lord again. but I agree. It has not really been his time to shine. I see him just a little bit in like surfer stuff, but haven't seen a ton of him.
00:04:07
Speaker
um Yeah, no, I agree. he's ah He's really solid, like we all thought, in the places where he's you know where he belongs. And I think that's porno. There's plenty of good decks with him. Starhawk is like, ah you know, i still think he's nonsense. I haven't really seen him. I have seen live lately of Cerebro. And I have to wonder if that's because of Starhawk. Because, like, I feel like both somewhere on Reddit and also maybe Lauren somewhere, we're talking about, like, some Cerebro nonsense. with Like, how you can, like, make him... wear And I didn't, like...
00:04:49
Speaker
get into the details because I don't need to know Cerebro's evil plans. Like they can have their math, but like that is such nonsense. I think Cerebro is really strong and I think Starhawk makes it weaker, honestly, because come on, look at him. How could it not?
00:05:08
Speaker
Right? But on the other hand, I think maybe it's people trying out this stuff is why I'm seeing all this Cerebro. Tell me if you have Cerebro thoughts.
00:05:20
Speaker
I saw that too, and I think it was on Reddit, even though I don't hang out on the Snap Reddit a ton. But somebody was doing like a C3, use Starhawk as the bridge so you can use Brood in C3. And it was like...
00:05:33
Speaker
Yeah, that'll work. But what if you don't draw Starhawk by turn six? like i did something cute like that. i did a C2. I did C3, but all of the cards were two power or four power. And I hit half of them with Starhawk and half of them with Yellowjacket. And it was very cute.
00:05:52
Speaker
But it's not a real deck. In the middle. What is this card? It's adorable. It's still baffling. Like... I know it's a limited time
New Cards: En Sabanur and Apocalypse Celestial's Chosen
00:06:02
Speaker
game mode card, but I still want them to have all job, right? Have somewhere more where they're the best in slot. And I just, I don't think, I don't think there's a single deck where Starhawk is your best choice.
00:06:15
Speaker
Honestly, like it almost could be a surge thing that happened over and over. Like, yeah. almost could It would be a little too good, but like only just ah only just a little. I kind of agree. like Maybe make it a three cost and have it do that, repeating things. like Early in the game, you don't have a ton of cards for it to hit, so it's not like it's giving out plus fours.
00:06:36
Speaker
yeah Maybe that would ah rain on Ten Rings Parade a little bit. but Oh, Ten Rings rings on ah rains on its own parade, rather. you know Okay. i Yeah.
00:06:48
Speaker
Let's move on to this week's cards. Rhi, you want you want to read about En Sabanur and Apocalypse Celestial's Chosen? Lucky you, you get a double. Okay.
00:07:00
Speaker
En Sabanur... I cannot not say things weird. I try, I promise. Okay. ah Is a four or five objective. have a full front row at each location.
00:07:13
Speaker
ah Then you transform into Apocalypse Celestial's Chosen. apo Apocalypse Celestial's Chosen is a 4-8 with on reveal, swap the lowest power card in your front row at any location with a card from your deck.
00:07:30
Speaker
um Okay, if I'm kicking it off, what I was thinking, one, I haven't really seen card. I haven't played a whole ton into the new season yet, to be honest. I've played some. But I haven't really seen this card.
00:07:42
Speaker
I was wondering, my first time I was wondering, is that because I've still been seeing Overstar Lord? Maybe you delivered from our Overstar Lords, please. Okay. There's just too many of them. I know there's like there's counters and there's ways to do it, but I don't want to do that. I want to have a mid-range front. Let me have it. All right. So, um,
00:08:06
Speaker
But some that is always like when people are trying to push to infinite first, they're going to play with it. It's smart, right? To play what you know, to play where you know how to snap, right? Rather than maybe... to see So unless the season pass seems like the new OP p card, you know? Like, and whatever, or the new card, then it's like you don't see as much people testing out new cooks on the ladder. it just seems way stronger, I think. But then secondary thought...
00:08:34
Speaker
I haven't seen the thing that still fools me. I don't know how I don't. I've been gotten it by so many times. I was complaining to you guys. I had the podcast zombie Galacti. um I still forget. I think I forget that he exists and I'm just like, I've been. How do they how how would they possibly beat me? And then they play. I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that card that I i've had that experience many times. Right.
00:08:59
Speaker
And I'm wondering I'm part, I mean, one, I'm just seeing is people are just playing it as good and it gets me. like, oh, good job. It's me from you. I already muted you. i muted you as soon as we got in the match. I didn't see you. mean Okay. ah but But like Apocalypse, does he fit there?
00:09:17
Speaker
i don't know. we is that even a point of discussion? is that where I'm seeing? Am I just not seeing him where he might have been there? Is there because they play a lot of low power cards, right? To turn into zombie Galacti that go into the front row of that. Usually when they're playing it, they've got a lot of those front rows filled.
00:09:36
Speaker
I haven't seen it. But I don't hate that. That's actually like, yeah especially a when I mean, we Lockjaw and Shauna are getting changed to character. Like if Insaba Noor follows in Lockjaw's step and also can only pull out a character, could see that being pretty decent.
00:09:53
Speaker
Yeah. hu ah That's what I got. Continue please with your own thoughts. perul Well, all I think I've seen like two or three Sabonur's sabo nos and ah the first and most memorable one was in Sanctum.
00:10:12
Speaker
And ah I thought that was an interesting choice to to bring him to Sanctum. yeah And he replaced a front row card with um something smaller. i think I saw him do that again on the ladder. That seems to be kind of his MO.
00:10:27
Speaker
Lockjaw's Lockjaw and Sabanur is like, Lock, nah. I don't know. I'm not not real impressed. Yeah. ah Ditto. I've been surprised by how many I have seen, but I haven't seen a ton. It's just...
00:10:43
Speaker
there's something wrong with me and I played a lot until I hit infinite last night. Um, yeah. I mean, yesterday was hot location shadow lands. That was an end top of location. You get to get rid of a ninja like, and I still was not seeing a ton of them. Um, my favorite, it was shadow. Make the season pass card look good. i couldn't figure it out. Okay. I see. have a free hit for, for good old lock. No, um,
00:11:13
Speaker
I had it happen to myself where he where he I had three possible things that were at three power he could have taken away. And of course, he took away the blue Marvel, the single worst thing by far for him to take away. I'm just like, this card's dumb. I mean, maybe I should be playing better. Maybe blue Marvel shouldn't be in my front row.
00:11:30
Speaker
um Like there's no rush. And Sabanur will do his thing on turn six. Maybe, but like the other card that cares about things being in the front row is Fin Fang Foom, and Blue Marvel is a great card to have in your front row for those purposes.
00:11:44
Speaker
I don't know. I Cosmo'd my own once. The objective does not get stopped by Cosmo, but Apocalypse Celestial's Chosen isn't on reveal, so don't you know don't't make that mistake. Ooh.
00:11:56
Speaker
An opponent I saw, the blue Marvel got swapped out for a Jubilee in a full location. It's like that. oh there no. cost you That cost you like 10 power at least. That was awful.
00:12:10
Speaker
And of course there's excellence. Like sometimes it's going to upgrade your hood into an infinite, but I just, i I don't think this card is going to be, it's not, it's not good until there's a little bit more control.
00:12:27
Speaker
Ben with our super premium. Oh, our super premium season pass card. Iska the unbeaten.
00:12:38
Speaker
ah She's a four, three. She's not apocalypse's wife. I don't know where you heard that ah except, you know, from second dinner. um End of turn. If you're losing this location, double this card's power. That's a,
00:12:55
Speaker
It's an impactful effect. Certainly can be. um She can tie and that's a little less impactful. Um, you know, I've seen few around. I was mostly playing Sanctum while Sanctum was around.
00:13:12
Speaker
So I wasn't seeing a ton of her there, but I've played a little bit of ladder and a little bit of conquest and I've seen a little more isca, pretty easy to retreat against. That's my feeling.
Iska the Unbeaten Analysis
00:13:24
Speaker
Like if you, if you see the, that they've built a death star, um, I don't know, get the fuck off Alderaan. That's, uh, my feeling.
00:13:36
Speaker
re Anybody else have this good thoughts? oh you know I haven't even and see I'm not as super familiar with her from the comics, to be honest. So like when I was just reading the card, I think all of last week to halfway through the episode, I thought it was Iska with a C because of the font. It is. Is it not? No. OK, then it was the reverse. I thought it was Easter.
00:13:57
Speaker
Oh, okay. i got you. Yeah, yeah, if whatever yeah. Whatever way I said it the wrong I can see that. I can see that looking like a tic. heard somebody else had that confusion, too. You're you're not alone there Right, when you're just reading it, like, not in regular font. Reading the logo, yeah. Yeah, reading her on the card. Okay.
00:14:16
Speaker
um She, I have not seen her, to be honest. I want her. I mean, look at it. She's on a throne. She's got, it looks like a giant sword. Like, that's pretty boss. So, and we we talked about her last week. I wanted to roll for her, but I don't have enough so a i would have ga I would have wasted them all in a chance. I really don't like that the super premium is in... Okay, I like that it's in packs. I don't like that it won't rotate into the shop. That doesn't make any sense. like That is frustrating.
00:14:49
Speaker
I just like another way that they benefit of players who are already... you know, sitting at 100% collection ahead of the game. Yeah. As I think overall, I do like packs better, but that's something spotlights.
00:15:04
Speaker
That's one way spotlights was better is it. It gave you the best results when you were the furthest away from collection complete. Yeah. And packs is the opposite. And I think that's weird. Like, I understand rewarding your loyal players, but like,
00:15:19
Speaker
it kind of creates this snowball effect where the loyal players are just building up gigantic stores of tokens. Like I, I maintain collection complete without losing tokens. Yeah.
00:15:32
Speaker
I am getting one season pass, just the $10 a month. but What do they say? My lobster is too bad. One thing that does help is that we get our season passes through the the web store and you get a free ah series five pack when you do that, don't you?
00:15:47
Speaker
i Yeah, i hope that that bonus continues because it's really good. Yeah, because I skip a lot of cards because I don't you know want all of them. And then I end up with a lot of cards anyway that I would have passed on you know and did pass on.
00:16:04
Speaker
ah No, I was just going to say thank you like because you know you gave us Season Pass. and i forget we got to we get You get a pack with Season Pass, right? What did you get? got I got Animantium Infusion.
00:16:16
Speaker
think I also got Animantium Infusion. Twinsies! Okay, maybe we should... Okay, we'll see. I don't want to commit, but maybe I'll try to play with it imaginarily. so we will Let's all deny it if we don't feel like doing it later.
00:16:32
Speaker
Yep, fair enough. That's a dilly. but what How do you two feel, because Ben brought it up, Sanctum was running for the first 24 hours of the new season.
00:16:43
Speaker
how do you all feel about an event continuing into the new season? I didn't mind at all. Although, when I woke up from the Sanctum, you know... I was like, oh, and now it's Hot Location. And that was a little frustrating. I was like and maybe this is a good time to mess around in Conquest, do some testing, figure out what I'm going to play.
00:17:07
Speaker
Uh, okay, Sanctum, I joined you all from last time. I think I didn't even play, like, last time. This time I played the snot of it. I got the event pass. Um, I was having fun with Kitty, and I was like, I want to get the rewards. I had saved up the... 800 up, okay?
00:17:27
Speaker
And let's face it, the magic's cute, but magic is cute in every single variant. There's no way. There's lot of good magics. Oh, no. Bad magics. There's just a million good magics, right? Yeah. And it's like, don't really want to risk getting the other two much better variants for. So I've been waiting for the shop to rotate. And now I'm on the timer. I'm like, don't forget. And I just remember you guys talking about it reminded me to open it up and see what my new variant It's like three times
00:17:59
Speaker
It's the fashion. It's the fashion Marvel boy. and it's that debate of like, is this everything's been junk till now? I have limited time. Is this where I spend the 800? I already have a Marvel boy variant I really like.
00:18:15
Speaker
But in this one, he's doing this like pose. And that's my default pose for my bunny warrior, for my bunny in FF14, which is, yeah, I'm just cool. Just slouching. And I kind of love it for that. Okay, sorry. This is like totally during the podcast. So, ah yeah, I don't think it should.
00:18:36
Speaker
I think maybe just the shop should carry over something. That was weird, right? I wasn't playing it anymore. Yeah. i think I think the carryover is weird. i I did play it because Macari that Rhi doesn't like is what I wanted from the shop. And it it took three pulls to get the hip Macari. So the X-23 and the magic are great, but like there's so many good X-23s in magic. that I'm good there.
00:19:02
Speaker
But it took three pulls. Yeah. Oh, that is a good one. i don't have that one. Um, so I got those, the credits and mystique emote, and i could just barely afford all those things. i was playing extra to get the credits. Um, but yeah, that's a really good emote. I've already had people like spamming emotes and I'm just like mystique.
00:19:23
Speaker
That's a good one. I like it, but I only emote with friends, you know, they're the only ones who get to see my emotions. So, And would never I would never tell my friends to shush unless it was for jokes. OK, I've always I shouldn't say always. Usually i can handle emotes pretty well and I kind of just roll my eyes when people are being silly with emotes.
00:19:48
Speaker
But I will say having access to like. reaction emotes to like what are you even doing the the iron man eye roll the mystique shush the captain marvel shrug and the dazzler just vibing like having those to respond with makes it so much easier to handle bad emoters guts i gotta say can see that it's like when im give the thumbs up kind of kind of kid but that's that's that's another one reasonable No, it's like when someone's really mean to you and you're like, yeah, but I got like a PS5 or something. You know mean?
00:20:33
Speaker
You just think about it and you're like, yeah, but I got bling or whatever. mean just You know, someone's just spamming emotes and you send a single response that's just like, really?
00:20:46
Speaker
All of my all my charms went to green glyph borders. got ah I could have guessed. probably only play cards with green glyph borders if I really wanted.
00:20:58
Speaker
re-border? Because you're a blue border boy, right? Sorry, that sounds weird, but the alliteration was going and I wanted to continue it. Well, when it sank sometimes, I'm a green glyph girly. I have to do that. I'm thinking, what if I went green glyph girly all day long? Because I've got a lot of excess green glyph borders because I get them all every time, except I left one behind this time because I've been busy.
00:21:21
Speaker
Oh! but yeah they are half price relative to the other ones. That is the place to get them. I think it is also the only place to get them. um Anyway, Iska. I played a lot of Iska. Iska was in my deck that I took from...
00:21:36
Speaker
Like 86 to 100. um She is great. Actually, i was playing her before that, too. I was playing her in end of turn nonsense with like Jocasta stacks. And yeah, I had missed that she was going to stop as soon as she was tying. And I was surprised how often that cost me locations and games.
00:21:56
Speaker
<unk>m like, okay, fire it off, Invisible Woman whole bunch time. Iska's ready to double eight times. This is guaranteed my location. time No, no, no, no, no. She doubles twice and then and then ties. And it's like, oh.
00:22:08
Speaker
So even though I was very, very high on her ahead of time, you know, before the season launched, it's because I thought she was going a solo lane
Introducing Juggernaut, Horseman of War
00:22:15
Speaker
winner. And she still is a solo lane winner, but it's not as sure of a thing.
00:22:20
Speaker
um She's still great. Okay, but... pa I was going to say from a spiritual standpoint, though, I like that she's a gal that can win together. We're tied. We're good. She's still unbeaten. She didn't lose, right? Yes!
00:22:39
Speaker
i So you just need to be a little more... and and it's It's awkward because it's math, but you have to be a little more careful about where you put her to avoid ties. But if you do something like on turn four, if you put her somewhere you're losing by seven, she's definitely going to end up at 12 at the least.
00:22:55
Speaker
And there's a good chance she's going to end up at 24. um Ultimately, I played a Doom 2099 deck, and that'll be more in my weekend snap, but she was just really solid there, and I had a lot of fun with the deck, and I've seen a ton of her. i would not be surprised if she still is the best card of the season. Just, she's not she's not busted, you know?
00:23:18
Speaker
Uh, one more juggernaut horseman of war, a two, two with the objective have six different powers among your other cards in play. You get plus six power. The doom 2099 deck that I started with was from Eka and it had juggernaut in it.
00:23:32
Speaker
And it didn't make sense to me because the only way that deck can even have six different powers is if you play doom 2099, which is, you know, not a sure thing. Um, So I cut him real fast when he whiffed a couple times.
00:23:47
Speaker
And I have seen this card many times. And I don't know if I have ever lost to it. Like 2A on rate is fine, but it's not doing anything. Either you two? Yeah. Juggie thoughts? and I know. It's kind of what we said the last few weeks. Yeah, I've seen him around.
00:24:07
Speaker
Oh, you have? I mean, like, once or twice. I think he got he got his effect both times. He still doesn't do anything. He's just... Cards need to do something. That's my feeling.
00:24:20
Speaker
What were you saying, Rae? I was just thinking, like, I haven't seen him around as much. Maybe i just haven't played enough. But also, like...
00:24:32
Speaker
I think my complaint, have I complained as much lately lesb about seeing mirrors all the time on new cards? Like I used to, it used to be so till I'm like, I can't enjoy it when it comes out.
00:24:44
Speaker
But like all the time anymore, I'm just like, no, I'm still seeing like the old OP p season pass or something. I'm not seeing as much card of the week as much. And is that because it's a new season? or is it was it like a monkey's pot? It's like, well, we made everyone not collection complete, therefore like people just can't open collection the new cards. and none of them Unique collections, where the the common factor is that no nobody wants to play the new bad card.
00:25:15
Speaker
Because I don't know Right. Yes. But like, and the more money you have into it, the more can get... the better cards because let's face it they're not all super unique or you know in their rules and decks like ah so i'm just like did i monkey pause it did i like did i bring about the am i the the force behind collections if only if it were a short story it clearly it would be but um I don't have that effect. Okay. On the world. So ah that's, you know, but I agree with you. I can see this not. It doesn't synergize with other stuff as its problem, right? It's probably what we talked about last week. In order. And for two, you want your twos to all build into what you're doing. Or just be like old Jeff where you put in everywhere. or new Or Surge for a while. or you know what?
00:26:10
Speaker
like But those cards do things. like you were so you know They synergize with everything. because They have synergies and they yeah like Jeff gets you into lockdown location. Even you're not synergizing Jeff, like Jeff does have like unique jobs that only Jeff does.
00:26:25
Speaker
Just being able to move is something. And this is like, build around me and I don't play well with anyone. And it's like, oh, yeah oh well, geez. And I don't want anyone else to play together, too. It's just like, okay.
00:26:38
Speaker
All right, then. Okay. I think your point about less mirrors, there's a bunch that's going into it, right? It's like this week, there's three new cards. So people are pulled in three different directions. But also, the only one that is the one that's like easy to access for free-to-play is bad.
Upcoming Card: Gambit, Horseman of Death
00:26:57
Speaker
Yeah. also, we've had Xolau and Star-Lord recently who are just so good that, like of course, people are just going to keep going back to those. Yeah. Okay, next week's card. This one might actually have quite a few players on day one and then, you know continuing depending on how good he is. Gambit, Horseman of Death,
00:27:17
Speaker
Objective, play five total cost of created cards to randomly destroy up to four total cost of enemy cards.
00:27:27
Speaker
Rhi, what's a vibe check on this guy? Oh, yeah, he's the one we all think is OP and everyone will hate. Like... They're definitely going to hate him.
00:27:38
Speaker
The O-penis might be debatable, but the unfunness is not.
00:27:44
Speaker
My only note is in the comics right now. ah Gail Simone is writing Uncanny X-Men and it's rogue and is kind of leading the team with Gambit and Wolverine and a couple a cup of newbies. And they're down in Louisiana and like Haven House, like a refuge, like a kind of an old South refuge for mutants.
00:28:05
Speaker
And Gambit, he's like got you mean he's like got a dragon's relic. Sorry, I read too many comics. It's like an eye or something. And they prepare this and they're like, hey, the longer, if you want it eventually you're going to want to eat flesh, which is a pretty daunting thing. like You don't want to ever start to... like want to desire to consume people. And ah and he's like, OK, but like now he's the dragons like you could give it back to me. But the dragon is not like a dragon of all good. You know, it's dragon who doesn't give a shit about humans with his own agenda. Gambit's like, no, hold on to this power.
00:28:43
Speaker
And we get to this point where we're like rogue is like, honey. you eat the cat? are You know, kind of thing. Like, it's just, yeah, kind of stuff where it's like, are you killing smoke? Because like you want to consume flesh like we were warned about. Like, let's not let it get worse.
00:29:05
Speaker
Let's take care of it because we love you. We're having an intervention. And then while they're trying to intervene on Gambit and Gambit's fighting them all and like screaming, you know, cage and curses at everyone for betraying him. um That's when they get attacked by Elsa Bloodstone and like Werewolf by Night and Morbius.
00:29:24
Speaker
We're like hanging around doing the bidding for like someone evil right now. Anyway, OK, I didn't mean talk so long. I would just meant to say that this this this made this makes sense for Gambit. I'm sorry.
00:29:36
Speaker
200 of the comics, Quirini. Unplanned. who I liked it. and That's all said to him. Oh, did, uh... or The card. You have more thoughts on the card. It's all good.
00:29:51
Speaker
When we were rating the cards and stuff, it was one of the months when I had prepared less for it. And my first thought was a four for this card because I had not read it carefully enough to realize that you have to play those cards. they Like broodlings don't count. You know, that kind of thing.
00:30:07
Speaker
But it's not that hard to play five total cost of created cards. So I still sort of stuck with the four and I'm still inclined to think this is a real good card, especially if those five total cost of created cards, three of them are a second Gambit Horseman of Death.
00:30:21
Speaker
That's what I think. I think we're going to frig I think stuff like that. I think it's not that hard to count to five. And I don't like that this card never really low rolls that low. I mean, like there will be higher and lower rolls for this card, but like the floor is mighty high.
00:30:39
Speaker
yu Yeah, pretty much agree. I don't know how strong it is. i I think this is the kind of card that people read as OP, but may not actually prove to be.
00:30:50
Speaker
ah But it's going to be real annoying to play against. And the the downside is how hard is it to play five cost of creative cards? It's not that hard, but it is like it's not free like existing Gambit is.
00:31:02
Speaker
um Which existing Gambit isn't totally free, but he's a lot freer than this. However, Mysterio exists and I do worry about making lots of Gambit horsemen of death.
00:31:14
Speaker
you know, Prodigy and Frigga. Multiplying it is the danger, maybe. There's going to be some nasty things you can do with that. Oh, and they're both created if you Zola it. that's That's six right there. It wouldn't be played. It wouldn't be played. Oh, they wouldn't be played. That's right. That gets me again.
00:31:29
Speaker
But like once you get the objective to go off, I guess we don't know how objective works with Zola. I can test that with cards we have in the game right now, but I honestly don't know. Is it like an activated card where if you Zola it, they're already activated? Or is it if you get new copies, they can do their objective again?
00:31:49
Speaker
You know, maybe we could have two 14 juggernauts out here.
00:31:56
Speaker
I'm guessing it's more like activate, but... i but Right, yeah. right You also play a lot of squirrels and then kill monger them and get your cheap death. Hope you hit some of their ones.
Team Clash Event and Brotherhood of Mutants
00:32:09
Speaker
The squirrels aren't created aren't aren't created cards that you played. i know I know. And I said brood last episode. and then keep talking into the same trap. We're like, look at that. No, right into the pit.
00:32:21
Speaker
I knew that it was played created cards last episode, and I still said brood anyway. So, like, you're good. um But Mysterio is real. Mysterio is six created cost just for two energy. What weird card Mysterio is.
00:32:34
Speaker
What a great, awesome card. keep refusing to, like, keep Mysterio in my head. It's, like, immediately gone as soon as we stop. It's one of the most commonly mentioned cards on this podcast um because I think he's a delight.
00:32:48
Speaker
All right. ah Next week we have Team Clash starting, but we'll talk about it then because it's like, you know, we we have a week of no events, so enjoy them while you can. Although Team Clash will be coming with a new team, Brotherhood of Mutants will be ready.
00:33:01
Speaker
that think they should have put the evil in there. every Every time I hear about the Brotherhood of Mutants, I'm like, come on, let's
Weekend Snap Experiences
00:33:07
Speaker
be real here. don't like this sanitized bullshit.
00:33:13
Speaker
Come on give me the real. On to our side quests. First up, Weekend Snap. re How was your Weekend Snap? And keep it snappy.
00:33:24
Speaker
Okay. Well, that's the thing. I could be snappy and just talk about what I did in Snap. i had kind of like a longer string of thoughts um that had formulated themselves into a kind of thoroughfare in my brain that i thought about sharing.
00:33:44
Speaker
um but it is i vote thoroughfare. you vote their okay Please feel free. done the the thoroughfare ah We have loose connections. I would like you few thoughts. You are welcome to. We all we all grew up around-ish the same era, different circumstances and places.
00:34:04
Speaker
um Okay, this is just a series of like connected things um that starts with Britney Spears.
00:34:16
Speaker
Okay. As they often do oh do the you do you know have you do. you know what she's up to now? i don't know. All I know is that I'm tired of being compared to damn Britney Spears. She's so pretty. Okay. That just ain't me.
00:34:32
Speaker
okay I believe she got out of her conservatorship, but I don't know more than that good for her. Okay. So there was a big free Britney movement because she was in a conservator, which if you look into her, actually really horrible and abusive things.
00:34:47
Speaker
And I mean, my own personal opinion about Britney's was, well, she, I mean, we have all, ah the world has failed Britney Spears. But like, um No question. Like, they definitely use it. Like, someone that's in that state should not also be forced to perform and, like, you know, make more well someone is not. And, well, someone else is controlled their faces. But anyway, but lately joking in a dark sense, there's been the unfree Britney movement because she is, like,
00:35:18
Speaker
doing well. ah like he She like posts these things, whatever wherever people are at Instagram or something, um I'm not there. But like but you know it all funnels into into the Reddit. It's like these videos of her in outfits from the era, kind of next-to-nothing outfits, like dancing with knives.
Cultural Reflections: Britney Spears and Societal Trends
00:35:44
Speaker
She's not...
00:35:47
Speaker
And like, she says she's happy, but it's like, mom you have a friend that's doing that. It's like, and things are not going well. So people are like, I'm free Britney. but It's not happy, but the thing with Britney is like, I look at her and I'm like, you know, all any of us...
00:36:09
Speaker
Like so many of us millennial women, like, you know, and just like a a Weinstein or an Epstein or anyone in our lives. But, you know, like, but for whatever, there go I is what I think when I look at Britney Spears, because, right, she was so... young And when you look at the demands on on like the trends at the time for women, it was like like low rise jeans, so low rise jeans. Like we want like walking around with like perpetual plumber butt because like that's how low they got. They were so low, it like broke me. i am I'm physically unable to equip high-rise jeans. I just can't. Above the belly button, it's like, I don't go. I'm obviously not that. I'm not.
00:36:59
Speaker
and We're not in that era. But it's just like, I can't, like too high. It's like, I'm from a different time. But like... ah You know, so there was that, right? There was this, that's what you would buy in stores. That was around, that was the demand, was to dress in kind of as little and as low as possible. And there's that demand at the same time. You have the demand that people at the time were like, you know, fat Britney Spears.
00:37:26
Speaker
At the time, you had to be you had to like, we're next to nothing you had to weigh next to nothing. You also need when you look at interviews of the time she's a teenager and they're asking her about her sex life on public TV. You know what mean?
00:37:43
Speaker
Like, like, it's like this girl didn't have a chance. Right. But these were the pressures and example of the pressures on everyone. Right. It was like, you know, you need to be a slut and a virgin. you know, you need to be responsible for the way everyone looks at you. But like, you know, we're nothing. It's just like.
00:38:05
Speaker
It's just, it's so bad. Like that, like all that pressure, we've all talked about it. But what's interesting is like, I found out about this new thing this week. And this is why I was thinking, interestingly enough, I think Britney Spears just got ah arrested for a DUI today. And i'm like, oh, oh, I was going to talk about it. This was not like planned gotten the um on that. But like, um i have you heard of this thing called looks maxing?
00:38:32
Speaker
I'm afraid I have just i heard about it. Yes. Right. OK. It's like, OK, it transcends everything, I think. But I'm just I may have heard it before, but I actually like learned more about the culture. And it's the idea of this pressure on looks. Right. where I think ah people who had trouble getting, this is my understanding and then I apologize if this is wrong, I am not of the culture, I'm a mere observer and scholar of a very casual sense. so like um
00:39:04
Speaker
like But looking in, it's kind of it looks to me they're like, okay, what if we didn't solve our problems with our inability to get with women ah through violence instead of just threatening to kill them all if they didn't sleep with us? We instead got hot.
00:39:20
Speaker
And I'm like, well, okay, you know, that's a better plan than the first plan. I like plan B better. um But there is little violence, the the hammering the jaw. Oh, I saw that.
00:39:33
Speaker
No, don't do that. You still have to get violence involved. And this is happening for young people, like the the prevalence of like facial cosmetics. I'm like, it's disturbing to me. I have not actually, you know done anything, but it's like very common. Like I meet people all the time. Just like, oh, yeah, I get the fillers and bow tie.
00:39:53
Speaker
I'm like, oh, like needles, though? And they go places in your face? No, thank you. Okay. So... um But like, yeah, so they're doing it. And it's like, it's not right.
00:40:04
Speaker
It's like the the pursuit to a happy relationship is never in the shallowest of things. It's usually in the depths of understanding, reflection, all these other things. But anyway, but looks maxing, it seems like that's the aim. And you can, you want to look um as good as possible. through Lots of like dubious, terrible me. It's the same thing.
00:40:25
Speaker
It's like, What, like, the beauty industry and the insecurities and all that that have successfully looked to bilk women out of tons of money for a very long time, you know, is now being plied, but in, like, a dude-bro way, you know?
00:40:42
Speaker
like no, you gotta get the right hammer to, you know, break jaw, and then it grows back hotter, you know? So, like, it's... Okay, but this is key to understanding. Have you heard about about mogging people?
00:40:59
Speaker
No. I think I've heard the term, but I did not have it explained me. Okay, yes. In the culture. ah You can mock someone and that's where you're like publicly in the only space that matters and look looks maxing space, which is online 2D virtual space framed, you know, and that's where you show someone and you are hotter than them in the same frame.
00:41:25
Speaker
you know And if it's the face, you're mogging them. But you can frame mog them if you've got a hot bod and you're showing them up in the frame. because but But you can't just be friends with someone. You need to be physically comparing them yourselves to them at all times. And I'm like, oh they tried to drill that into girls early. Now they're coming in for the boys. Yeah.
00:41:46
Speaker
You know, like, um so like, it's just, but okay, this leads to the meme, the the internet memory that like you kind of need all this context to appreciate, which is, ah have you heard about ah McDonald's a CEO and their new product?
00:42:09
Speaker
No. OK, so sort of a little viral video going around is that the CEO of McDonald's was like showing off for. I don't I don't know what it was for investors.
00:42:22
Speaker
I don't know why why these people, these ceos these owners of companies think we want to see them in advertisements like they're like. We're going to see them and want to buy their product. It's like, no, pay for the cool people. I don't know. So anyway, but he's like got this and he's like, they have a new like burger, like an archway burger or something. And he's like, I'm going to, and now I'm like advertising it by talking at curse you capitalism. Okay. but But he's going, he's like this new product. And he looks like an, a he looks like he hates it. And he doesn't like McDonald's food. And he's the CEO.
00:43:00
Speaker
McDonald's changes with the new product. Yes, right. And he called it a product. And so everyone was making fun of that. And then other companies, um because they think we want memes instead of like living wages and paid time off in healthcare. are like, ah you know, to jump in on the joke, started doing their own videos with their products because we're all talking about this. I'm doing it. I only really know as I'm talking, I'm contributing to the problem. Okay, but we're memeing about it. So they get on and they like are showing off their products and doing a video. And it's a you know, it's ah a rip and a takedown on the other companies because we can only be mean to other people in our advertisements.
00:43:46
Speaker
It's the only thing that's allowed. And um so it leads to me that I now fully understand that I saw because I know I'm too fascinated by random internet culture, which is ah which is talking about, oh my God, the Burger King whose CEO mogged the McDonald's CEO.
00:44:10
Speaker
Free mug McDonald's CEO. I'm like, I know what that means. ah Okay. Anyway. We got there. Story that led to the meme. Sometimes you just scroll your No idea. There's so many layers of culture you just can't possibly understand what's going on.
00:44:29
Speaker
Always like lurking at the edges of these like subcultures floating by trying to understand. I did have to mute. Reddit kept sending me free furry stuff. I had to mute it. It's like that's too much. All right.
00:44:45
Speaker
yeah thanks for overs that so i I
Gaming Insights: Slay the Spire 2
00:44:50
Speaker
stand by my choice. I would do it again. Thank you for peeling back the layers. Ben, how was your week in s SNAP? And keep it snappy.
00:45:00
Speaker
All right. In the interest of keeping a snap, I'm going to bring back the five minute timer from two weeks ago. because i remember oh whoa. I can't I can't promise I'm going to do it every week, but we're starting now. All right. My weekend snap.
00:45:16
Speaker
It was mostly sanctum while it was there. Honestly, like I appreciated the extra day of Sanctum because I hadn't actually been doing that much Sanctum early because I had been playing a lot of Mugenics. And I'll be honest, at this point, I'm sort of Mugenicsed out for now. I'm sure I'll be back later.
00:45:33
Speaker
i i played a lot of that game. And, you know, there's, as I said, there's a lot to like and there's a lot to, you know... yeah make faces about about it but like on the whole i do not regret my time with it although maybe i didn't need to kill quite so many sewer fetuses i don't know that's just that's just a me thing but anywho uh a lot lot of fun stuff there I'm a little bit tired of fucking WALL-E dystopian futures where everyone is, like, super overweight and on a hover chair and stuff. that's That's a feature in Mugenics. I've just seen WALL-E. I'm like, I'm a little over that one. um
00:46:18
Speaker
But, ah yeah, you know what is another new game? I don't usually buy new games with this frequency, but... Slay the Spire 2 came out today, so that's what I've been about. um Oh my gosh, must be pretty popular because i I had a lot of trouble downloading it on Steam. They just wouldn't let me buy it for about half an hour. was just refreshing and refreshing and refreshing, but they were overloaded. um But I did eventually get there. I've played a couple of runs.
00:46:50
Speaker
ah My first run was, of course, with the Ironclad. i died to the Act 3 boss, so I haven't i haven't cleared yet. But I had a lot of fun,
00:47:01
Speaker
and One thing that will strike you right away, especially if you start an Ironclad run, as you have to because you can't play any other characters until you play the Ironclad first. Wow. A lot of returning cards and stuff.
00:47:14
Speaker
And every card I saw in my first run that was a returning card, if it has the same name, it does the same thing. Exactly the same thing. Probably has a very similar illustration. ah really? Yeah.
00:47:27
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And I was like, that's a bold choice. But there are also a lot of new cards and a lot of new enemies, a lot of new mechanics. Now you get blessings from various patrons ah between acts. And that's pretty cool. There's a Melty Dragon who gives you some cool stuff. And after the first run, Nia was there at the beginning, ah you know, as Nia always is in Slay the Spire. Yeah.
00:47:52
Speaker
But yo, once I got to the second run, I was playing as the Silent. The Silent has some new tricks. Then I started to notice, I was very surprised at first, I noticed that Flash of Steel in Slay the Spire 2 does 5 damage instead of 3. So I was like, that's different. And then I saw an Equilibrium as a neutral card, not a Defect-specific card. And was like, okay, so not everything is exactly the same. I feel like maybe they did that with the Ironclad to like...
00:48:18
Speaker
yeah make Make it comforting and familiar and not and be like, you won't be punished for familiarity with Slay the Spire. It's going to be more Slay the Spire. Don't worry. But like you get to the Defect, or not the Defect, the Silent, and things are a little different. Flechette does five damage per skill in your hand. These may seem like minuscule differences. It did four in the original. But anywho, yeah. That's kind of fleeting.
00:48:44
Speaker
No, go ahead. There's a a very different new third character who has a very different like oh ah core mechanic that I don't want to spoil.
00:48:55
Speaker
And also it looks like the fourth character also has some new stuff. some some new stuff And that's pretty exciting. The fifth character is the defect. And I'm most excited to see that because the defect is my buddy, my my robot friend.
00:49:11
Speaker
Anywho, really been enjoying that. The enemy designs are so cool. So many of them have are, are you know, like there will be some familiar element to them. You'll be like, Like, ah, this is the the one from Slay the Spire 1, except with some big differences. You know, like ah an enemy that was like a tiny little Act 1 chump will like instead be a friggin' kaiju in Act 2 or whatever. Like, it is a lot of cute characters.
00:49:42
Speaker
like reinterpretations of things, remixes of elements. Um, really having a lot of fun with that. I'm sure I'll have more to say about it next week. I noticed that I am running out of time here. Um, uh, looking forward to the corner on the qualifier. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah I can't tell you what I'm playing cause I haven't decided yet. It's probably going to have show in it. Um, wow. I, um,
00:50:08
Speaker
You know, I've got five seconds left, nothing important to say, so I'm going to ask Lauren, how was your weekend in snap?
Marvel Snap Strategies: Grinding to Infinite
00:50:17
Speaker
Unmute. My weekend snap was was great. I i finished ah The Eye of the Bedlam Bride, which is the sixth Dungeon Crawler book. Started This Inevitable Ruin, which is the seventh. And when I finish the seventh, I will be out of Dungeon Crawler Coral to listen to until May.
00:50:38
Speaker
i I don't know what I'm going to do I've been playing tons of Picross on my phone and on my Switch because I love Picross and it's something I can do while listening to something unlike Snap. I did grind to infinite because i don't know. It's probably not healthy, but I like getting that weight off my chest.
00:50:54
Speaker
ah You know, we have a whole season to do it, but I did it in 48 hours. I started with Ika's Doom 2099 deck, as previously mentioned. I cut Juggernaut really fast because he seemed bad. And then I cut Killmonger because he wasn't doing anything for me. I'm sure there's places where Killmonger makes sense, but I don't know. like I didn't feel a lot of pressure to beat...
00:51:16
Speaker
uh and sabanur so like i replaced them uh here's here's the deck it has i admit it has a lot of expensive cards in it a lot of recent cards but this deck is super pliable like there are lots of cards that you could flex out and it would still be fine uh hydrabob and chamber moon dragon Invisible Woman, First Steps, of course.
00:51:43
Speaker
Drax, Avatar of Life, Iska, Doom 2099, Iron Lad. Iron Lad's really, really good. Keep him in this deck if you have him. Cosmic Ghost Rider and Sandman are eating up this meta. Holy moly, they're the real reason why this deck is doing so well. Yes, it can put out a lot of power, but mostly it's that Cosmic Ghost Rider and Sandman just just tear up the meta.
00:52:06
Speaker
um One of them is the answer for At least one of them is the answer for so many situations. End of turns everywhere. Cosmic Ghost Rider deals with that. Right? People are playing com combo stuff. Sandman.
00:52:20
Speaker
So good. ah Got a lot of turn six retreats. Doctor Doom, of course. And Aurora. Aurora's really fun. I kind of owe the Doom 2099 deck an apology because I hated it the first time Doom 2099 was good. And granted, it's had some balance changes, but...
00:52:37
Speaker
I used to think it was a really dumb, mindless deck. And we do need mindless decks that are good. But I just, I really, really did not like playing as or against Doom 2099. This experience was totally different. It felt really tactical. It felt like I was making important decisions. When I did the math, there were situations where I was winning locations by one or two power. And I knew ahead of time because I calculated how many Doom bots I was getting. And and it just like...
00:53:01
Speaker
Really satisfying. ah This deck has grown on me a lot, and definitely because of balance changes, but and and perhaps meta shifts and all that. But this deck in its current state, I think, is both very strong and also fun to play.
00:53:17
Speaker
you ever finger a it I did it i did a clip, a silly clip with Iska. I wanted Chameleon to copy Iska, but I don't want them in the same lane. So I used Topaz to move Chameleon to the middle and then Zorn, or sorry, to move Iska to the middle and then Zorn for Chameleon to copy Iska and then go back out to the other locations. they swapped locations and I felt very clever about it. And then they doubled bunch times and won.
00:53:43
Speaker
um Check it out on... fourth location YouTube or my Twitter or my blue sky, whatever. Um, it's not really a plug. It's just a cool clip. And and I like sharing cool clips.
00:53:56
Speaker
So I'm just fun. Just play more. I know. I was like, Topaz is a card. I've actually done quite a few clips with Topaz. Super fun card. ah And she's two now.
00:54:07
Speaker
I haven't played with new Topaz. Yeah, every time I scroll through the collection and I see that, I'm like, oh yeah, I should probably do something. I should try some Topaz. the Originally, the like thought was like, oh, this is going to be so cool, was i can with Sarah out, I can play Topaz, Zorn, Iska, and Chameleon all on the last turn. And then the first time I did it... That click was so buck wild. Well, thanks. The first time I did it, though, Chameleon copied Zorn. I was like, oh, I'm either going to have to roll a 50-50 or play Zorn ahead of time, so that Chameleon will definitely copy Iska.
00:54:40
Speaker
um it's It's not a real deck, but I like doing clever things in Snap.
Secret Homework: Card Redesigns
00:54:46
Speaker
ah On to... Our secret homework. Ben, you assigned this week's secret homework.
00:54:52
Speaker
That's right. I did. Initially, i was like, let's let's ah let's see how we've all grown since we started the podcast. and ah Was it our first secret homework that was the Mantis redesign? It may have been our very first secret homework. very early.
00:55:09
Speaker
was certainly early. sounds great. If it was not the very first. But yeah, I think maybe it was the very first. Anywho, so Whoops, I think I reset the timer.
00:55:20
Speaker
So Lauren kept hers under five minutes as well. Very impressive. thought the timer was metaphorical. No, if it was quite literal for me. There's a little timer!
00:55:32
Speaker
Yes, but, um, anywho. You just cartooned me! Okay, sorry. our Our mission this week was to pick one of one of three wonderful early series characters, Mantis, Jessica Jones, or Rescue, none of whom really see a lot of play if you're ah a late game player. You know, if you've got a large collection and other things to play, you're probably not playing those cards very often.
00:55:59
Speaker
And I thought it might be fun to spice them up with a little bit of that 2026 juice. I'm talking about the objective keyword. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right. It's the new hotness, and we are all about it. We are on the cutting edge, as we always have been and always will be.
00:56:15
Speaker
So i will start with my card design. I went with Mantis. We did not coordinate to make sure we were not doubling up. So ah spoiler alert, no rescue card today. Sorry.
00:56:30
Speaker
But Mantis, my Mantis is a 2-3. And the objective is both players have discarded a card. There's not a lot of consistency among objective cards, like the real ones already in the game. I like i read through all of them and the ones that are datamined to be like, is there a standard way to like write these? And not really. Not really. ah So you can sort of make it up as you would like. And my objective was both players have discarded a card.
00:56:58
Speaker
So once that state has been achieved, what you get at the end of that turn is your characters reveal with plus two power. And I liked that, you know, revealing with extra power because it's kind of Guardians flavored, even though don't, you know, we're not checking to see...
00:57:14
Speaker
if they're revealing a cross from a thing. But how I decided that the objective should be both players have discarded the card was, ah you know, Mantis's power is that she is an empath. And the thing about empathy that it's got to be like related to something you've experienced yourself. That's how you empathize is because like you got your own you got your own thing that's like the thing that the other person has been through.
00:57:38
Speaker
So I wanted to make sure that you would have the shared experience of both having discarded a card. You both felt that pain and that's what charges Mantis up so she can juice your your future characters that you play.
00:57:52
Speaker
Okay, I love this. Also, she's friends with Moon Knight for whatever reason. don't know. Yeah, I was going to say, this is super gift. I would totally play Mantis with Moon Knight, and this would be fun for me because I've tried to play Moon Knight in a lot of different ways and different discard decks. And this would give a good reason to play a lot little discards late. Swarm.
00:58:15
Speaker
Like, yeah, swarm. But also, like, you're going to call lean and, like, scorn a bunch more times. Usually you're working up to something big in discard to playing a conchu to playing, you know, this. And then maybe this would give you a way to lean towards peppering a lot of stuff.
00:58:32
Speaker
Yeah, I like that a lot. Oh, that's true. never played Bullseye, you know. Full disclaimer. Bullseye free. Not a disclaimer. I also never played Bullseye. Statement of pride. No, that's not true. I played Bullseye sometimes. You know, just to let you know enemy, you know, in general strategy. 90% Bullseye free.
00:58:53
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Okay, yeah. Alright. No, that's cool. Okay, um... Should I say mine now? I'm going to proactively be nitpicky because I think Ben can take it and B, just get ahead of the comments. I don't know if Objectives can do an ongoing power like this, but worst case, she just transforms like Enzabanur does. yeah, she transforms into Mantis, juiced up. Yeah, Mantis Awakened. Sure, sure. Right.
00:59:24
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Right. Yeah. OK. Yeah. I yeah. I also did Mantis. um This was a assigned to me because I had previously done Jessica Jones and like, you know.
00:59:36
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I'm trying to repeat that too often. Okay, and I picked it. It was cool. I was like, I feel like we've redesigned Mantis a million times, but objective is different. And I also looked at this where, okay, no, say say the ability first three. Yes, Mantis two, three.
00:59:52
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Objective, play five guardians. And ah the reward is steal your opponent's highest cost card. Like it comes to your side, right?
01:00:04
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Yeah, if you have room, obviously. Okay, yeah, and I wanted this because I wanted, right, Mantis' coolest thing in cinema is when she got the the big alien space creatures, like, we're her now. We're just going to go, like...
01:00:20
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be gangster together. And like that was cool. So I've always liked the idea of stealing. And also right her her other big thing was she was able to make ah Ego sleep. you know like right So she takes down, she can take ah control of big things. So that's where I got the finish. and i wanted a big reward for hopefully a difficult enough test, play five guardians. you know That's a lot of guardians to play.
01:00:48
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But it also gives maybe Major Victory a boost because you want more Guardians, you know what I mean? um So maybe two numbers need tuning, but that's what kind of my goal was. i want'm like I want a reason for major victory. i want a reward for playing a lot of Guardians. I think they need a big swinger because, let's face it, outside of Sanctum, we still don't really see Guardians like pretty much ever. So like a big reward like stealing the highest cost card.
01:01:19
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That's our team. really... I really think making them have some sort of typal ability is like that's how they're going to make Guardians better. However that's done, and maybe they never will because they're early series cards, but like that's the way to do it is give you a reason to play a bunch of them.
01:01:35
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i i don't think we have a card existing that does this except for like, you know, Titanium, whatever. But you can't take somebody's card. You can't can't do the Wololo from what is it? Age of Civilization?
01:01:48
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wallallo Anyway. empire three Age of empiresardians oh Empires. the sound effect. Yeah. yeah I going for. it right My favorite thing in Age of Empires was building armies of priests to just go out and convert all...
01:02:08
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yeah me too what does that say about us i wonder um you know i is in starcraft if you get a dark archon and then you'd yeah that cv or that was my favorite thing to do in starcraft yeah that's more fun in starcraft because you can get access to like a whole different like unit tree and stuff the whole tech tree whereas in age of empires everybody's sort of like playing with mostly the same tools so it's like a little less exciting but that's just my my feeling
01:02:39
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I'm sorry. Let's try. rear Okay. No. line yeah We're on secret. I think it's kind of funny you did Mantis because like man Mantis was offered because you're like, i already did Jessica Jones. you're like, well, we already did Mantis. And so that's that's when Rescue came up.
01:02:54
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But ah you followed your heart and you made a beautiful Mantis and I'm proud of you. Oh, thank you. I would play this card. That seems really fun. i'm I made a Jessica Jones. I followed the original assignment honoring Mantis.
01:03:09
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What is it? Kristen Ritter, her her appearance upcoming appearance in the new season of Daredevil. ah Jessica Jones, 2-5. Objective, have three face-down cards.
01:03:21
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Cards you play next turn don't reveal until the game ends. Lopsided supergiant. It's kind of hard balance, but i was like, there's some... Go ahead.
01:03:35
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So objective happens at the end of the turn, right? right Is the only way to do this with like ah that one location whatever dimension, dark dimension or an invisible woman? Malekith, invisible woman, super giant.
01:03:51
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This is a really hard objective, isn't it? uh you could i mean is a two five i will think she's a two five i heard that i was like hell yeah well yes two five is how i balanced it because i wanted her to be cheap enough that you could play her on to an invisible woman later because of the way that you have to get three cards face down um and then also like There's some downside. It's kind of like how like discard cards are overpowered because there's some downside to to discarding. There's some downside to not playing next turn. You're basically you're probably throwing priority. Your opponent can know where to play Eliath or Cosmo or Negasonic or whatever. So I thought there was there was enough risk. But also you could do some really nasty combo stuff with this and your opponent wouldn't see it. But he's got Eliath!
01:04:40
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yeah Oh, and me and also throw prize. I'm like, is the reward big enough? Like, to be honest? It might need to be like two face-down cards. And I'm trying to think, like, what is the big payoff? Like, is it some silly Wong thing? And then in another lane, you have a Taskmaster?
01:04:55
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I'm not really sure. Letting you set up your combo out of order. like I this to be real card just so I can see the clip. Maybe it lets you shong the enemy Iska, right? She gets big and then shong flips and and takes care of her.
01:05:11
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um Okay. I'm confident that you would do something cool with this card. It's so clever. I'm not sure anybody else would. It's lot of squeeze mystery juice. Okay, maybe I'll change it then to two face down cards because that seems lot more practical. And that lets you do Invisible Woman stuff in two different lanes.
01:05:29
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i just There's cool stuff you could do with that.
Objective Cards and Game Design Challenges
01:05:31
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Yeah.
01:05:34
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And then I also thought I was trying to go somewhere along the private investigator detective thing. You know, like before we said like, oh, the detective vibe is to Howard to check the top of the deck. So I was like, OK, we're going to deal with face down cards. And don't know. Then I got stuck on face down cards. I like the objective for Yeah. The like sneaky. Yeah.
01:05:56
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I thought a little bit about doing a Jessica Jones and I sort of wanted her to investigate disappearances. So like maybe she would count things in banished files, but like characters, not not skills, no skills. She doesn't investigate missing skills. That's some nonsense.
01:06:12
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but That's an interesting idea. Hmm. I'm excited to see where Objective goes. have big ideas for Rescue also, but did not finish baking them. This first season of Objective cards is pretty meh, but um the next season is more exciting, and I think it just opens up options for them.
01:06:29
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I do wonder how many we're going to see that have transforms like Ensab and Noor just because Snap tries to be so tight on space, and writing a complicated Objective, like the requirement and the payoff, there's there's no room to do that.
01:06:46
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Anyway. Also, cards that transform, you don't get to look at the variant for very long. It's true. That's a downside. Unless the variant has special tokens, which happens sometimes.
01:06:59
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Sometimes, but not often. Not often. I think there's one Bruce Banner that does that. um Okay, here's my new homework. It's fairly open-ended. i want you to nominate your four horsemen.
01:07:11
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You become Apocalypse. But as a bonus, they don't have to be... ah These should be Marvel. I don't need you to like name your you know your parents and siblings and besties and whatever. for you Bring your cat
Community Engagement and Podcast Growth
01:07:24
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into battle. That's not what I'm asking.
01:07:25
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I just want to know in the Marvel universe, who are your four horsemen as an optional twist? They don't have to be of this. They don't have to have the same domains as Apocalypse's horsemen.
01:07:40
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You know, you you can make a a horseman of rainbows. You feel me. All right. Yeah.
01:07:46
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you fail me right yeah
01:07:50
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01:08:04
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01:08:20
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01:08:33
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Cozy Gaming Experiences and Preferences
01:08:55
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Bryant, TS24, who had a great idea of using Magus to be Patrook the Leaper, which made me kind of wish I had the card. That was the first time I was like, do I need to get Magus? That was the first time like, do I want that card?
01:09:17
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Did I not say that's what we should do with Magus? I'm like, why are we trying to copy the big cards on turn five? Let's copy little Batroc the Leaper. Yeah. The the best fun drop.
01:09:30
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A great example of like a big payoff one that doesn't use on reveal. You know, if don't reveal the answer would be hood. Right. Yeah. Anyway, ah come hang out in the speakeasy. It's our little corner of discord. The instructions to get there are in the show notes or video description. We're probably part of the snap judgments network where you can listen to other great shows like the titular snap judgments by pulse glazer and Nick degree geek on Saturdays.
01:09:58
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01:10:08
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Okay. This is actually continuing conversation between ourselves, Lauren. But also that Ben should be part of. Although, you know.
01:10:21
Speaker
We don't always share the same taste. Okay. I have no idea where this is going. I have been looking like, I want like a cozy, ah late night game. I've been looking for It was, it's like, you know, was, it was snap for a while, but like, you know, mean, like me and snap, we need time together and time apart. And, like, before I was the original Slay the Spire, but I'm kind of, like, you know, I've slayed a lot of original spires, and I'm not, like, a chaser of you know,
01:10:55
Speaker
like I am no chaser of trophies. Okay. But like, um, but that was the game. Here's the thing. And I love Hades too. But it's like, I would, I could fall asleep in between turns of Slay the Spire, you know?
01:11:10
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And it's like, oh, this was such a good run. But tomorrow it's wiped from our brains. Like all the card thought process we just abandoned this turn. And, um... But, like, Hades 2, you can't, you know, like, you can't, like, follow... Like, it's just, like, not conducive. It's like... You're not... Yeah. It's not like a winding down sleeping game. Yeah. So I tried to start playing Animal Crossing again. I actually restarted my whole island.
01:11:37
Speaker
Wild. I didn't sign into it, because I'm like, if I log in, I'll never... can't do it. So I deleted And I had a ton of time into it. But I'm like, the only way I'll replay it is if I'm gonna, like... sorry against her So and and but I started I started playing. was like, oh, I don't want to do a choice and pay off my house. So, you know, like science no it doesn't seem what I wanted.
01:11:57
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And so have been searching and I thought maybe i had I was all prepared to come say I had found it. um by like I don't know because I found there's this game that you've probably heard of and I had tried to play before but it wasn't the most console fan I got it for like Playstation I think maybe it was even a plus game Darkest Dungeon yeah I fuck with Darkest Dungeon You fucked with Darkest Dungeon? Okay, I had wanted to. I had heard it was good. Okay, it seemed like my thing, but I was trying to play it on PlayStation, and I'm like, oh, this isn't the kind of game I was looking for for, like, my console gaming. It felt very, like, it was made for PC, and, ah
01:12:42
Speaker
consoles and I just had other games and I just kind of ended up not playing it for that reason not because of anything specific about the game but I got it for Switch it was like on sale for like under five bucks and I was like this seems cozy and um for a certain value of cozy sure yeah But it's, like, turn-based and stuff. And it's, like, you know... A little grimdark or whatever, but... I don't think... Besides Animal Crossing, I don't think Rhi has actually set a single cozy game. So Rhi means something different. Rhi means something you can fall during. I thought Rhi was supposed to, like, come out here with, like, Sunhaven something. No, we're talking Rhi cozy. Okay. So, like, uh...
01:13:29
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like So I started playing Darkest Dungeon and it's yeah it's like, okay, it's turn-based. I've played a lot of this style. I've played a lot of games. but um And I'm like, oh, I'm into this. i can get into this.
01:13:42
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And it's a game, if you're not familiar, of Darkest Dungeon. And the idea is um you're a greedy capitalist, I guess, of nobility. So you feel more privileged than everyone else because you were born into a title. Therefore, it is your privilege to send poor travelers who are stuck in this wasteland of a world with nothing better to do into like horrible dungeons of skeletons and monsters with like literal forces draining their sanity over time to bring you back treasure so that you can build back in a state you feel like you're owed from the past.
01:14:17
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It's kind of the setup, I believe. Yeah, but like, you know, it's a game. I've played a lot of board games and it's like, there's a problem with like a lot them just being straight up about colonialism and imperialism. um That's a good time. But no, things have changed actually. they There actually have been games um like Spirit Island that are like actually about the reverse of that. Anti-colonialism.
01:14:41
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The thing is, cool people play board games and once we're like, why why are we doing it this way? We could make cooler things. That's what they did. So, um yeah, like put more swords in everything, clearly. So, ah yeah, but Darkest Dungeon, and I'm like, I'm into this, like, you know, recruiting heroes. I, you know, I loved Heroes of Might and Magic. I'm like into the style. Oh, I love Heroes of Might Magic. I'm more than fucks with Heroes of Might and Magic.
01:15:09
Speaker
Maybe that's the cozy game. Is that for consoles? Maybe that's right. The problem with Darkest Dungeon is like, okay, I started it and then I had to like learn things. Like there's a lot of, so like it's like, oh, if you accidentally press the left thumbstick backwards and they walk backwards, it hurts everyone mentally. And I'm like, well, fuck, didn't know why I'm backwards for everyone mentally. And like, this is late night re. We can't think we're not going to accidentally fumble a thumbstick.
01:15:36
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you know, on a controller. So like, oh, this is depressing. And so I started and everyone was like going to end like, OK, now we learned how the game works. You know, we know what things are and how they go. So I'm going to start again.
01:15:49
Speaker
this is from the person who's who started Skyrim 50. Try every class. I'm like, we're going to do a much better job because going to play Darkest Dungeon. I'm going to save. the heaven Oh, no, you can't. You literally can't.
01:16:06
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I will prove them wrong with the power of caring and love. And so I started over again. You have to discard that. Yeah, I know. It already broke me. Like I said, there's just too many.
01:16:21
Speaker
And there's no, it's so unforgiving to my mistake. Because if I accidentally finger fumble something, it's like, nope that's what you did. That person's crazy ah like crazier now. You just break them and use them up.
01:16:34
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Yeah, and finally I was like, okay, maybe we'll just dismiss some people and get some fresh blood. Let me just give up on them. They mistakes we learned.
01:16:45
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ah You know, they're experiments. Just don't don't see them as living beings with feelings. It's fine. and um But like, so it's like I said, it's just like too, like,
01:17:01
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It's so – it's like I'm already like – it's like I don't know that this is cozy. It's like I'm getting stressed out trying not to like fumble my – like fumble things and mess it up.
01:17:15
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So still we are on the quest and the goal is – okay. um I don't want to blow. I mean –
01:17:25
Speaker
I don't know that I'm, depending on unless it's like super cheap. I'm not going to spend a ton of money until my, my birthday, of course, but i don't upload my whole budget. I'm looking for like something that's cozy. That's hopefully like, you know, 20 less, you know, maybe 30, but you know, like you said, I've played animal crossing and played. The only thing I don't play a lot of is like first person shooters because I get like physically ill. Um,
01:17:53
Speaker
just makes me seasick like really hard but um you know something cozy to wind down to by which you mean something you can fall asleep to yeah like turn-based is great like yeah uh kind of stuff yeah i'm very interested to see what our listeners come up with i would also be interested but especially in ones that are actually cozy
01:18:19
Speaker
Okay. that's Yeah, it's like a genre. But like I heard they made like a Shire game, but I don't think they were respectful about it. And that if you're going to make a game about the Lord of the Rings and about like it kind of people's fantasy of being Shire habits, like don't fight. Like like it's like we already had the Golem game. You've seen failure. You've seen it.
01:18:42
Speaker
We all lived through. Sorry, there's like a really horrible Golem game. I can't. Everyone agreed to. Okay. Yeah. You guys know. I just realized I talk like everyone knows all the nerd things. And you know people might be mistakenly, be mistaken for Lord of the Rings fans. I don't i want to do that to anyone. like yeah so but that's my opinion. learned about that last week. Oh, that's a bummer. If you get the IP for Lord of the Rings and you're gonna make a Shire game, like, get your ducks in a row. Like, figure, you like, know what's important about the game. Know what's important. Like, do better. Look what Expedition 33 did. Do that for Hobbits.
01:19:20
Speaker
But, you know, but like, it's Hobbits and the Shire and Cozy. Let's not, let's keep it a little bit lighter, you know? But, like, in general aesthetics. I'm sorry.
01:19:32
Speaker
I'm done. You know, i was i was so enthralled by this ah posts post, you know, the the the last last word that I didn't even think to myself I could be playing more Slay the Spire right now.
01:19:47
Speaker
Because that's what I'm about to be doing. Freeze! Yay! I hope you have a lovely evening with it.
01:19:57
Speaker
A lovely weekend. You already have the Spire 2 theme song memorized? Well, it's the semi.
01:20:09
Speaker
You know, if it ain't broke, don't fix The Slay the Spire theme is classic, so you know they dusted it off, but there's new music. there's new shop music. They kept the shop music the same, just like Hades 2, but of course they gave you a dope remix.
01:20:20
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Have I listened to it with the sound on? Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
01:20:27
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I feel like if I were Ben right now, I'd be like, I'm so furious. Because that's why people haven't listened to good music. I always want to at least let the music you know?
01:20:39
Speaker
Maybe I'll play some with the sound off eventually. Next time I'll play, I'll play with the music.
01:20:50
Speaker
You both did Mantis. I thought you said Jessica Jones, Ben.