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- 0:00:00 Intro / July Card Ratings
- 0:01:27 Spider-Man Brand New Day
- 0:07:57 Mary Jane
- 0:13:30 Aunt May
- 0:17:35 Tombstone
- 0:19:58 Tarantula
- 0:24:41 Boomerang
- 0:29:57 Scorpion Brand New Day
- 0:39:09 J. Jonah Jameson
- 0:46:52 Spider-Sense
- 0:49:36 Sinister Six
- 0:56:33 Our Week in Snap
- 1:26:35 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Epic Intros in StreamYard
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Speaker
his His intros are so much more epic like in StreamYard, and you get like the epic like countdown from 10 or something. and You've been on the show, you haven't noticed. yeah You've been on Snap Decisions. You were there with me.
00:00:17
Speaker
I was. it's i mean yeah As the show's about to start, it gives an epic countdown on screen. Once with the three of us. Oh my gosh. That was a pretty good episode, I thought.
00:00:30
Speaker
It was a long one, as we are want to do. true. It comes natural. Should we get into it?
Spider-Man Season and Cards
00:00:39
Speaker
Should we get into July season? Spider-Man?
00:00:44
Speaker
Brand new day? You know, I say it a lot, but like, wow, I did not get a chance to look at these during moving week. i'm I'm really shooting from the hip with these ratings. Oh gosh. You know that's so valid and fair.
00:00:57
Speaker
um
00:01:00
Speaker
they a lot of them are up your alley they're move cards it's true all right i didn't even get to listen back you know usually i listen to like our first impressions from the data mine so that i don't sound too stupid but like i'm ready to sound real stupid this week okay uh lovely loyal listeners we will do we can snap after we finish rating july season's cards tying in with the brand new spider-man movie we rate them one to four one is bad four is good re tell us about the season pass
00:01:31
Speaker
Okay. um The season pass is Spider-Man. Brand new day a one cost two power card with movable, keyword, twice. After this moves to a location, give one of your other cards there plus one power, even unrevealed ones.
00:01:56
Speaker
Um, this has to be, like, kind of four, at least between a three or four to me. One, it just doesn't move once, it moves twice. That's really good. And then if you move it, out from what I can see, if you move it more times through other means, it's still going to give plus power, right?
00:02:11
Speaker
i mean, she isn't that how... Yeah, it'll keep hanging on the culture right there. Right? Yeah, so you get it, you know, you get it out early, you get out late. Seems, ah Seems for certain kinds of decks, like one of those new must-haves, right? So um I'm for it for a season pass, I guess. like It does make some cards feel weak, but, you know, that's that's what they all do now. so Thematically, it had to be Spider-Man, right? I mean, it didn't have to be. But of course, if they have a chance to make a new Spider-Man, that's the one they're going to sell. um
00:02:48
Speaker
Got to be one of their most popular characters. Honestly, I'm impressed that they've made few Spider-Men. Yeah, this is what? The fourth Spider-Man that is a season pass card? Oh, I guess the first one wasn't a season pass. Miles Morales Symbiote were. parker in total There's a Peter Parker in zombie Galacti.
00:03:08
Speaker
That doesn't count. I'm critical of the repeats, but I'm not even going to say that technically. I'm not going to push my glasses up and claim the zombie. No. Sorry, Reeve. What were you saying?
00:03:21
Speaker
No, it's just like, this isn't a different comic Spider-Man. This is a different movie. It's like a different actor. Because even in the MCU, I guess there's been multiple movies, so it's like But it's all Peter Parker. So it's really they're selling the idea of a different actor in the suit.
00:03:44
Speaker
It's like First Steps, right? like super analogous to the Fantastic First Steps. Yeah, to the movies. Okay. it It is like a strange component of...
00:03:58
Speaker
marvel games right it's like are they tied into the comics or the movies yes and sometimes the comics and movies like don't align perfectly so the game kind of just pulls from both uh you know uh cafeteria style picks and chooses what it wants and That certainly was true with the back in the the day with the Activision Spider-Mans for the Tobey
Evaluating Mary Jane and Aunt May Cards
00:04:23
Speaker
Maguires. like You know that fucking Vulture and and such will will pop up. The Shocker was in the the the first Tobey Maguire Spider-Man video game.
00:04:34
Speaker
You could even play as him if you entered the the correct code. I mean, it was just a weird I miss cheat codes. Yeah, me I think...
00:04:45
Speaker
I think this is a four, an easy four. It does cool things. it's It's like generically good too. It's been a while since we've had such a generically good one. Um...
00:04:58
Speaker
And yeah, I think it just like, I don't think it has to be in a move deck. I think you can put it anywhere, but it'll certainly fit in move and like forward the buffs because you can use this to buff both Maverick and stick, or you can use this to buff your brood right before it reveals. And then you can take it off the lane to make a room for another brood or for another space next to brood.
00:05:21
Speaker
Just like super good little utility card. i'm I'm excited. It looks fun. I hope it's not too, too good. And don't know.
00:05:33
Speaker
I'm not worried about it being too good. I just think it's super flexible. And so it's an easy for. Do we think we do we think we see it go down to one one at some point in the relatively near future? Like in the first couple of months, that would be the first pass nerf for sure. Because they're not going to get rid of the movable twice, right?
00:05:56
Speaker
that's That's too essential to its... It would have to be like once that proves to be a huge problem. But and that's like... that's That's a lot of the card's identity, right? you can move it twice. I was planning on talking about this ah on Aunt May, but this is like...
00:06:11
Speaker
i've i know i've complained about it before vision is the card whose text is explicitly you can move this multiple times but then his cost says you can only play him once and it's it's silly as hell it really is so i would love to see them buff vision down to four cost um which he is in like team clash they recognize the irish one that double moving is cool Conversely, I was also just thinking about, vi you know, Spider-Man when I first read it, the first thing I thought was like, ah, Vision's trash. What?
00:06:43
Speaker
I was like, I don't think Vision, Vision isn't a move deck card at all, right? I think the way to buff Vision is to give him more power. He's a combo card. He's a card you can shuri or something and then move to a different location. They don't know which one so they can't shang it. appropriately he's not a move he's not a move deck card right sure he is definitely the synergy we've seen most I just I don't know why he has the text movable like it should be that's the cool thing that should be his identity yeah his identity should be oh he's the card you can move multiple times and Spider-Man New Day is just gonna come and eat his lunch before Vision ever gets to do that yeah give us a number Ben
00:07:26
Speaker
I'll give this one a four. It's like the best one cost. People are playing a lot of Nightcrawler, like even today. And ah they're not going to once. Yeah. Accurate. Oh, no.
00:07:40
Speaker
My kid and I, because he started playing Snap like three years ago and then went on a long hiatus. But we had ah we had an inside joke that Nightcrawler is the best crawler. But that's just not going to be true anymore.
00:07:53
Speaker
Spider-Man Brand New Day is the best crawler. Nightcrawler. Uh, Mary Jane. Ah, Mary Jane, the super premium season pass card.
00:08:04
Speaker
The SPSP. Sometimes it stands for Stinky Pupu Season Pass, but, you know, I don't think so this month. I like Mary Jane. I can't tell how good she is. Again, I warned y'all, I'm really shooting from the hip today. You haven't read her? Three Mary Jane. I'll probably have to give her a three.
00:08:22
Speaker
ah we're We're doing Monstro Logic, where the octopus, it's an 8-8. We should have given it 8 out of 4. That's what we should have done. Um, but anyhow, yeah, Mary Jane, I guess she's a three cause yo, here's her end of turn ability. Give each of your cards that moved this turn plus one power.
00:08:42
Speaker
And that can happen. The turn you players say if you're displacing a silk, um, unfortunately silk will only get plus one power. Even if your opponent also moves the silk, um, helps you move it multiple times in a turn. So like, I don't know. I'm not, I, I didn't,
00:08:59
Speaker
my My gut instinct for like you know serious, pragmatic takes is that maybe this is more of a two. But in my heart, Mary Jane's going to be a three. um i'm I'm just excited. i I'll try to play this card. i I love moving cards for the love of movement.
00:09:20
Speaker
And getting rewarded for it? Hell yeah.
00:09:26
Speaker
Anybody got better thoughts? be Better thoughts. I was very similar. i was thinking like a low three because once again, she doesn't move things and she doesn't benefit from being moved. That's not to say that her ability isn't good, but she also costs three, you know? So stuff before she doesn't come out, she's not buffing. You have to think. And I think you were right on. I think with like Silk and Batrock, things that move themselves, yeah.
00:09:54
Speaker
Right? It's probably where you're more setting up. She just, she feels more rewarding and promising, I feel like, than she might be, except in certain situations with specific cards. So, a low three for me.
00:10:09
Speaker
She's sort of bad Hydrastopper. That's what I've been wondering. I'm kind of between two and three because because she's not retroactive like Hydro Stomper is, and that's huge. But she's different.
00:10:21
Speaker
She goes wide, right? And Hydro Stomper goes tall. And that's not... like I think generally tall is better, but... They're not like, yeah, it's not perfectly true that tall is the better way to go. There could be a deck that that likes going wide and threatening three lanes pretty seriously, and she's better at that than Hydrastomper is.
Tombstone and Tarantula Card Analysis
00:10:43
Speaker
um So like the big moves with her is like Heimdall, right? Or Greedy Invisible Woman stuff. I can see a deck that's doing like Jocasta, Sparky, Invisible Woman, but that's like that's a deck that hasn't existed before, end of turn move. And then then now we have Mary Jane and Aunt May, who we'll talk about in a second, who's also ah moving end of turn card. think the better of the end of turn. Oh my gosh, hold on. I have to pull... I know the perfect one for Mary Jane. You made me think of it. I had reworked... This was before I was tilting for whatever reason because of the meta and I couldn't play. had made this deck, but it was...
00:11:18
Speaker
problematic. Oh, this was the Gambit, Horseman of Death, hair or whatever. But I had reworked, it was an old Surfer move deck that had, like, Topaz and Redwing to pull, like, Heimdall or Surfer, and, um um, losing the name, the two, the Magneto, the Zorn, who's not Magneto now, but, like, yeah. So, Zorn to, like, ping cards around in Hercules, right? And ah it's I top has switched and I'm like, ah, the surfers not worth it. But I rebuilt the deck to just be not a surfer deck, but a deck that like, you know, moves their shit, moves you wear your shit. And it's like, oh, I feel like she that's what she goes in because that's one where I'm moving stuff, you know, every turn. Maybe.
00:12:04
Speaker
ah this that was a um who did I had? Did I put fan fey in the new one? It's crazy. love... Zoran is underrated because it's really fun when people can't play.
00:12:17
Speaker
I think Zoran and Topaz both. Zoran's disruption is fun for sure. Yeah. i i I'm going to commit to a two. I'm tempted to three because I'm like, ooh, greedy Jocasta and invisible woman stuff. But if the only good thing is greedy...
00:12:35
Speaker
I need to rein in my my Lauren combo love and be more realistic. I don't think she's super good. Can we give her a pending three if they give her the buff to three five?
00:12:54
Speaker
Yeah. Alright. I feel like the honest truth is that this is a 2, right? No. If I caused 2, she would be amazing. 2-3. 2-3 would cool. Maybe too powerful at 2-3, but she would be way better.
00:13:08
Speaker
Kraven is Kraven, and we should let Kraven breathe and let let him let him punt. i was going You can have redundancy in your deck. It's fine. You're not going to draw Kraven by turn 2 every time.
00:13:22
Speaker
There are a lot of movie twos, though. The twosie movers. i don't know. It's a crowded spot. Okay. On to Aunt May, at the first week Series 5 card. a two three end of turn.
00:13:37
Speaker
If you used a movable ability, give a movable card in your hand, minus one cost and plus two power. This is where we realize our vision dreams. This is where you can make vision up. Is he 5-9 right now? So he'll be a 4-11 that can move multiple times? That's pretty cool.
00:13:56
Speaker
Um... this asks you to make a deck that i don't think exists currently which is to stack a whole bunch of movable cards together like you're gonna be playing spider new spider-man and spider-punk and new jeff and rocket raccoon and group they're almost all of them are in that one to three cost range we could still be playing old jeff yeah a nightcrawler the second best crawler um Yeah, I have her as a three because, you know, Mother Ascani and Wingbeat have shown us minus one cost and plus two powers, a pretty dang cool buff. It sure is. Especially as an end of turn, unlike Majestic Wingbeat, which is like once without doing more work. Yeah, you stack this on the same card multiple times. And then when you drop your fat 08 Jeff, you can still move it another time the next turn. Like...
00:14:58
Speaker
it's It seems pretty cool. And ah you can do even cooler greedy stuff with this than you can with Mary Jane. Oh, yeah. Three.
00:15:08
Speaker
Keeping the easy, it's just also a three for me because good but narrow, right? Like, obviously playing movable a deck, but it's going to be good in that, I think.
00:15:20
Speaker
Yeah, I gotta say, I think... I think we're all going to get real tired of this card. I think this card's a four. I'm a little worried about it, to be honest. o Seems mighty strong, and that especially in conjunction with the season pass card, Spider-Man Brand New Day.
00:15:38
Speaker
Like, wow, all the phones are blowing up. if Those were all my sounds, by the way. Wow. Anywho. Yeah, Aunt May seems real strong, like way better than Mary Jane. Like reading this card made me sure that Mary Jane's a two because like there's a lot of daylight between these two designs and their power levels, I think.
00:16:04
Speaker
um Yeah, just the every turn, every turn you get this, including the turn you play Aunt May. Cause I mean, maybe Nightcrawler still gets work because of Aunt May. That's what I think.
00:16:18
Speaker
Um, even in a world with the, the Spider-Man, the new Spider-Man. Also, uh, I and didn't mention it when we were talking up that new Spider-Man, but I meant to mention it.
00:16:29
Speaker
It's pretty cool to move two cards with one card. Uh, I, I learned that lesson from original Spider-Man. Um, not the original design of original Spider-Man because he didn't used to do that. But like, wow, when when we first started swinging two cards with one card, I was like, that's that's a powerful thing. And I i've remarked on it several times over the over the life of this podcast. But yeah, anywho, this Aunt May seems nuts. That's that's a four for me. I think that deck is real and I will I'll be shocked if it's not.
Boomerang and Scorpion Card Critiques
00:17:02
Speaker
Just thinking about some of the other things you can do with it. Like, I think her buff will only go to the cards that you can move, right? Like it won't go on to Madam Web, even though her text technically says movable. She herself is not movable. I don't think she'll get the I think collection will turn up Madam Web, but Aunt May will not affect Madam Web. Right.
00:17:21
Speaker
But Madam Web can trigger Aunt May. And similarly, Sam Shield can trigger Aunt May. And I think that's going to be a strategy you see a lot. Yep. Sam's back.
00:17:36
Speaker
Okay. um So the next card we have is Tombstone. 4 cost, 6 power. reveal, destroy your lowest power card at each other location.
00:17:50
Speaker
um ah Really importantly, I didn't realize Snapfan hadn't updated this still. Oh, did it change? He's at 2-3. He's at 2-3. But we're still looking at the 4-7.
00:18:01
Speaker
Gentle listener. Okay. but Yeah, sorry, i pulled i pulled the ah screenshots. I didn't realize they still hadn't refreshed it, so, yeah. It's very possible that our listeners have, you know, seen the 4-6 around, too, and maybe they they don't know either, but, yeah.
00:18:19
Speaker
This is really good, then. i want to give it, I mean, it is, you know, you're doing destroy things, but I i kind of want to give it a 4, because, like... I like it. I think it can do a lot. i feel You know, it's one that I would almost complain. It's like it would it almost feels like slop when you just read it because it's like, oh, you're just destroying But it's like, oh we haven't really this ability so much in Destroy. It really feels like it opens up new avenues. of not I really like how surgical it is. It's like weapon arena weapon X's skill. It's like the only other thing I can think of where you can like really carefully target something in the lane. I guess fastball special does too, but it targets the high cost thing. So it's like, this is a cool way to weave around. Like if, if 23 sneaks herself onto your weapon X lane, you don't have to worry about eating your weapon X. I guess it would be a better example because killmonger could already take care of X 23. Yeah.
00:19:18
Speaker
Do we all remember when Blade was random?
00:19:22
Speaker
Yes. How much better a card Blade was once it was targeted? right This is a very good card, right? Yeah. yeah I gotta to give this one a 4, personally.
00:19:33
Speaker
It's absolutely a 4 for me, 2-cost Destroy cards are good. This is targeted and spread over multiple lanes. it just Destroy is absolutely gonna love this card. Yeah, this is a new thing that just to do this whole time. he must have Which is pretty interesting because it it ah is a thoroughly established archetype and I think it can be hard to break into the core shell, but Tombstone has a chance.
00:19:55
Speaker
Yep.
00:19:58
Speaker
Oh, is it time? Are we learning about Tarantula? All right, Tarantula is a 2-2 with end of turn. If you have the highest power among cards in play, give this and two cards in your hand plus one power.
00:20:13
Speaker
Not really a Venus friend. um ah But wow, Spider-Man brand new day sure will be. Anywho, I guess I'm a little lukewarm on Tarantula, personally. Because I think it's a lot easier to play two cards in a turn than it is to guarantee that you have the highest power among cards in play. That's what I think.
00:20:35
Speaker
um But that's that's just me. I'm sure that the decks that want to play Tarantula will be pretty good at having the highest power among cards in play. Although, you know, if if they're that good, there will be a lot of mirror matches and you won't really be able to count on your Tarantula Planchula. And, yeah you know, i I haven't thought about this card too hard because I don't like it very much. I just don't like the cut of his jib. But I'll give it a two because I bet it sees play, but I don't think it's great.
00:21:13
Speaker
i think I think it's bad. Like, like pretty bad. i am always wary of giving out a one, but, like, I think this is the this is probably the worst card of the season.
J. Jonah Jameson Card Discussion
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I'm between one and two, but I think this one's ah an okay card to give a one. And the main reason is he's not very good at triggering his own ability.
00:21:34
Speaker
That's a good point. Right? Like... The turn you play him, it is unlikely that you have the highest power among cards in play. He is a 2-2.
00:21:45
Speaker
i mean, did you open with Ebony Maw or something? Right. I mean, yeah, like Martyr exists, but yeah, he just I think he's just a little too small to get his own thing going. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see this get a quick buff.
00:22:00
Speaker
Yep. That is the tension with it, right? Like, Gwenpool is pretty awesome. I like buffing things in my hand way more than buffing things in my deck. Or on the board, you know, where they're vulnerable already. Um...
00:22:17
Speaker
And ah so, and it's like, oh, two different cards and also itself. But, like, it is harder to trigger. I don't want to give it a one because if you're pulling it off consistently from turn two, like, oh, it's pretty good. It keeps going. But, like, I get what you guys are saying.
00:22:39
Speaker
would put it at You know, it's... too i've so you know it's There there were there were some, that we've seen ones in our day. I feel like we're worse than this.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah. i I just realized I never explained why I was like, It's easier to play two cards than to guarantee that you have the highest thing. I was comparing it in that moment to Thena, a card that... Oh yeah, I picked up on that and I wanted to mention it because i do think that's one reason I'm giving this a two instead of one is I think this ability is way more powerful than Thena, right? Thena's...
00:23:16
Speaker
power that she's giving is like too and I guess this does too but like the fact that you're buffing cards in your hand is what you really want if Fina buffed cards in your hand for playing two cards she would be better way better plus three to a random card in your hand that'd be filthy yeah right Or even a smaller buff. right If she, instead of just increasing herself in a way that is vulnerable to red guardians and shadow kings and stuff, she was ah you know juicing up a brood or something in your hand, you'd way prefer that. So I do... Mr. Fantastic type stuff. you know like That kind of thing. There's an end of turn card that like does a similar sort of thing. Maybe they're being cautious with Tarantula because while he does start slow, if you get him going...
00:24:02
Speaker
he he can snowball, right? If he buffs one of your, if he buffs your wil Wilson Fisk, then on turn three, you're playing 310 and you're probably going to keep the ability and Tarantula is going to keep going. And then, you know, you play your, your on curve four thing and it's bigger than anybody else's.
00:24:19
Speaker
You're probably doing like techno organic virus or something with this, right? You're looking to put out those high, those early, those really high power cards with like some drawback or, or nothing, you know? Yeah.
00:24:32
Speaker
but It fits. It has a home. I just i just think the two is is a little too small. ah His base power. Boomerang.
00:24:43
Speaker
Silly looking Two two. When this returns to your hand, randomly steal four power from cards in your opponent's hand. Activate him. he will return to your hand. i love it thematically. you know, he's a boomerang. He comes back to your hand. he rewards you for doing so. It's also mechanically interesting that it's a card that can bounce itself. The only other card we've seen do that is Kitty.
00:25:12
Speaker
r.i.p to kitty when when she first came out you could optionally drag her back into your hand that was very cool um but it crashed the game like crazy so that's the reason we all have kitty pride now yeah the only card the only card they've ever recalled because of how busted it was that i can remember anyway if there were others they were very short-lived Did they ever permanently fix her? There were still like edge case scenarios where I was getting the can't do, can't do, can't do. She still can't do's sometimes, which is very silly. But ah yeah, she's certainly more stable now than she was.
00:25:54
Speaker
I don't know. this guy is cool. And of course you can do things like play beast or toxin to get an extra, extra stealing four from your opponent, which is, think that's an eight power swing. If you play boomerang again, and if your opponent plays the cards that you afflicted, that's the part where I'm like, you know, you have to pay for boomerang every single time. Every time.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yeah. So he's a two for me. i think like cool design, but just it's just too expensive. yeah to His cost is going up by two every single time you play him ah or one after beast.
00:26:34
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:36
Speaker
Wait, you think you can activate him more than once? No, I think he activates him. He could use Beast, and he would still do the stealing four power. Oh, okay. It's kind of like how you can move Spider-Man extra times. yeah Well, that's even more stupid. This card isn't thematically good. It's stupid. What boomerang? What boomerang do you have to send something with for it to come back? What boomerang do you throw out and you're like, oh, it'll just hover there in the air until I summon it back to my hand, Thor style.
00:27:09
Speaker
I don't know. I hate that part. Also, like, act yeah, activate for a boomerang card? I don't know. i don't respect it.
00:27:20
Speaker
don't like Because I know people are going to play this against me multiple times, and I i hate when people multi-scorpion My hand. That's not fun. I like doing it to tell other people, though.
00:27:34
Speaker
yeah Okay. We learned last week that like you really don't like getting scorpioned. and I'm largely unbothered by it, but like I think that's interesting. There are different effects that do rankle me a bit. Oh, man. I hate getting marrowed.
00:27:53
Speaker
That's interesting. Yeah. It's like disproportionate. Is Reed gone? Is Reed frozen? Reed looks pretty frozen to me. Reed, can you say something? I'm gonna... I think we done lost her fully.
00:28:09
Speaker
Is it time for me to talk about how fucking bad Boomerang is? Yeah, i don't I don't remember exactly where we left off, but yes, tell us your Boomerang verdict. I was trying to make a portmanteau in it.
00:28:21
Speaker
It didn't happen. Uh,
00:28:26
Speaker
You know I really threw everything I had at it, and I do not see a portmanteau there. Yeah. um Well...
00:28:38
Speaker
boomerang more like boomerang um you know um okay yeah you have to play it every time also your opponent you have to play boomerang every time but your opponent does not have to play any of those cards that you stole power from oh my gosh like this is such a a nifty design i mean like i'm maybe i'm a little more forgiving uh flavor wise like re had a good point about how like it's not that top down that's not how boomerangs behave you don't have to supplement you don't You don't have to nudge them back to you with with Beast or you know Toxin or whatever. like the you know The Boomerang returns. It's a whole function. But anywho, yeah, this one just stinks. I gave Tarantula a 2 so that I could give Boomerang a 1 because there's ah there's a difference in quality between those cards.
00:29:28
Speaker
ah Yeah, i don't I don't think this one sees play... A doll? I mean, it's so cool, though. i'm just I'm just sad that, you know, we live in a world of hard economic truths, and that's that Boomerang is a bad deal and just ah a bad investment.
00:29:48
Speaker
Stinky.
00:29:50
Speaker
I'm sad, then. I give him a two.
00:29:56
Speaker
Scorpion? Ah! Well, that's me! Scorpion. Oh, that is yeah ah the the layout of the thing. Confused I mean, you can have it if you're excited. Because the two cards are in a shared image, so I couldn't put the names in the right places. Yeah, that my Ben. I did it for convenience.
00:30:12
Speaker
the Okay. um It is a 6-8, 6 cost, a power scorpion. Brand new day. um Ongoing card.
00:30:26
Speaker
Double the power reductions on all enemy cards.
00:30:35
Speaker
Still gets beaten by a Luke Cage, right? Yes. Yes. Gets completely shat upon by Luke Cage. Your opponent has to play Luke Cage. Yeah, agree. wondering, though, for this being a finisher, it's six powers, so you're playing it in turn six, or you've done magic and you're playing it turn seven unless you've cheapened it and then it's like what does that stack up to with the other like negatives you know what i mean it's just like possibly a lot you have to think about like omega sentinels and calibans that hand out negative seven buffs or negative seven affliction
00:31:16
Speaker
Okay. Honestly, think about how big Ajax gets and like what a bad deal he's getting on the affliction that he's capitalizing. This is way more exciting than Ajax. Yeah. All right. like Let's go three three three stars because way more exciting to play than Ajax. know why. I just like i really have it out for Ajax. I'm really disappointed in him as a...
00:31:41
Speaker
card beating. Okay. um so But this this is more exciting and it'll be very good but still still beaten by loot cage.
00:31:52
Speaker
Ergo three. How about you? Next up, person. I have a loot cage. So I'll give this one a four. That's that's what's in my heart. Seems mighty strong.
00:32:05
Speaker
Seems like... I mean, like this is the real payoff. I get so frustrated With these, you know, you're your Ajaxes, your Ronin the Accusers, your... I don't know why. I guess I can forgive Darkhawker. Is there fives? I hate these fives that are, like, the ultimate expression of, like, a synergistic lane or whatever, you know? That they're the best archetype.
00:32:28
Speaker
commit all the way. Be six. Come on. Yeah. I mean, like, I guess, well if you have Sarah, you can play it with Mystique. Who cares? Come on. Just give us a card that's worth playing one of, you know? And that that is Scorpion brand new day. Goes wide.
00:32:44
Speaker
And, you know, moderately tall in that it is ah a beefy, beefy card in its own right. You know, i just, what a neat card. Very cool. i think it's like the best version of what the Affliction Finisher should do. Ajax should have been doing this the whole time.
00:33:03
Speaker
and Yeah, it's a hell of a card. And I'm not afraid of Luke Cage. A opponent has to make room for Luke Cage. But i will say, okay, but Luke Cage, I get you have to play it, but this is the kind of card I love to play against in a meta where I'm playing Luke Cage to do it. Because that's where I get someone in an 8-cube Snatch. Particularly if I can hide Luke Cage into a deck, right? They're thinking they're going to get me with that Scorpion. But whether they play the Scorpion or not Doesn't matter to me whether they pulled it because I'm gonna surprise play my Luke Cage the very last turn. Boom, everything's gonna go up. So I'm gambling the eight cubes because I know, I know, I know I'm gonna win. They're just thinking, oh, they don't know I'm gonna play the scorpion. It's like, it didn't matter to me. Never mattered.
00:33:50
Speaker
drink Also, let me get an errant prediction out of my system. I think this this season, the the July season... they're finally going to rework Luke. That's what I think. Ooh, that would big. That's just a hunch. I mean, we've we've all been feeling, like, we feel it in the water.
00:34:11
Speaker
But wait, don't they have to have another card to, like, dual split? Doesn't Luke kind of fulfill two functions they've said they would need to split? me Maybe they'll give it to Ghost or someone that they've always just never been through. Honestly, would love to see Ghost reworked. Her ability is dog shit.
00:34:31
Speaker
um But they also could like they could split up Luke Cage and then the second card comes in a couple months. like That would be fine. Cut him down to like one lane. Or, you know what would be cool? I don't know if this like thematically like really makes sense for Luke Cage. His invulnerability in vulnerability is like more local. But like it already doesn't make sense the way they're doing it.
00:34:52
Speaker
What if it was at the other lanes, like like Tombstone? what what if they made That's the in-between solution, right? They did during Techpocalypse, or at some point, it might have been before Techpocalypse, they put Luke down to one lane, and he was bad. He was very very bad So he's a yeah he's ah he's a hard problem to solve.
00:35:11
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um But I do think a looming threat like Rhys saying, and i think Scorpion should be scared of him because even if your opponent you know has to run Luke Cage, those are still four and eight cubers that you're going to eat. Hopefully your opponent is smart to save Luke. Such narrow tech cards. like I mean, it's not that narrow, but like it's narrower than Mobius. There's locations that he benefits from. It's true, but he doesn't benefit that much from them.
00:35:38
Speaker
Just to add on to that, I feel like that's probably already obvious to everyone who's playing, but like if you are playing an Affliction deck and you have a loot cage, you hide that and get the cubes. Just already think about how you're going to save it to play turn six. One that leaves it, if they are worried they're playing it into a big meta, they probably have a rogue or something, right? Because they're worried about the loot cage and that's one reason to hold it back and the other is like, yeah, i get those cubes. many you dare play that in turn three?
00:36:05
Speaker
If it seems like this... So long unless because unless you're snapping before you play it and you're just going to get out for your, you know, after they see it. Well, if you're playing Scorpion Brand New day you probably want to be running Red Guardian for for Luke Cage, maybe specifically, huh?
00:36:25
Speaker
Does that does that feel like the thing to play? I'm playing I'm saying playing your whole cage against Scorpion. Yeah. Oh, that's true. That's true. That is that is the whole point. Yeah, that's ah that's an another way they could address Luke is don't make him retroactive. I think that would actually be a great way to address Luke. So he's not an ongoing all lanes. His ongoing is you can't do new afflictions.
00:36:50
Speaker
Is that even an ongoing effect or is that just like a cool text box now? it could be either way i i think it it is ongoing enough it's just the rule is what's ongoing it's not that your cards cannot have their power lowered it's like your cards cannot receive new afflictions
00:37:09
Speaker
uh i think we should start a new recording i've i've gotten like six error messages from you then
00:37:16
Speaker
okay well listener we had another issue tech issue this time it was ben's computer's fault we won't say it was ben's fault i choose yeah yeah if if we lost the flow that's why i don't know if i formally gave scorpion a rating um he's a three four no i don't he's a three i think he's a really cool design And so like I'm tempted by four because like it's nice to get Lords of Archetypes and like he's definitely like Ajax is a decent one and he and Scorpion is a great one. um Cool to see a six cost and I think he's he's good.
00:37:53
Speaker
um Which you know six cost is it's like that's a tough cost but. I don't think he's enough to make like... i don't think we're going to see Affliction be a tier 1 deck anytime soon.
00:38:06
Speaker
Even with Scorpion out. And part of that is Luke Cage holding it back. But also just like... I don't know. Scorpion is one of those cards that's going to be doing a lot of work even when you don't have him drawn. right like Even if he's not in your deck, if you're afflicting your opponent, they're going to be expecting Scorpion on turn 6. Yeah.
00:38:26
Speaker
If you have enough Affliction out there, they just are they going to just retreat? I kind of worry about Scorpion's strength in that in that way. You can't you know play him early and then your opponent as is left guessing how much affliction you're going to be able to put out.
00:38:44
Speaker
But maybe you can snap on an early big afflict. You get your minus seven off and you snap about it. You don't have to have Scorpion, as as you mentioned. yeah And they still have to have the fear of Scorpion.
00:38:58
Speaker
And it's not exactly a bluff, because like you You have delivered on some of the the the promise of the premise, you know? I don't know. ah Ben's on the next card. I just want to like acknowledge that Second Dinner is being coy about this card.
00:39:15
Speaker
has been updated in the data mines. They had jjo Jonah Jameson animated in the like season trailer, but they didn't announce the card. And in like the art they put out on Twitter, like the seasonal calendar, they didn't announce the card. But they did a post saying, like talking about Jameson and Jameson. So we don't know how we're getting this card. My guess is it's either going to be free promo for everybody or we're going to get a little surprise weekend event and he'll be in there.
00:39:41
Speaker
But my guess is super duper easy to get this guy one way or the other. And it'll be a pleasant, fun surprise for everybody. Do we think he does the thing that he's said that he does this whole time for many years Yes, Marvel Snap Twitter tweeted about him today, which I don't understand because they kept him out of the video. Why would you tweet about him? But they did. You know, they're always of one mind about their their master plan and it never seems inconsistent or ever any less than perfectly thought out and executed. Indeed. ah But yes, J. Jonah Jameson, he makes your emotes reader. It's an ongoing effect. He's a one three and get him pictures of Spider-Man.
00:40:25
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's like a real card. like are we Are we assigning it something on the four-point scale? Because i I don't think... I don't think it's the worst card of the season.
00:40:36
Speaker
for plenty You think it's better than Boomerang? e Yes. I think it's better than... Who's the whose' guy I gave? everyone Tarantula. I don't know. Maybe that's a stretch. No, I don't know. I know I gave Tarantula one and Boomerang a two, but now I'm...
00:40:53
Speaker
now i'm Now I kind of just want to give them both ones. but yeah um Tarantula, I'm keeping at one. just like I think he's a decent card, but i I expect a buff. I don't think he's going to stay where he's at.
00:41:09
Speaker
uh the thing that i think makes j jonah jameson real is his ability is ongoing and that means synergy with spectrum synergy with uh captain america and aurora and you know it's a it's a weird niche but it is a niche he's a one three ongoing card and there aren't any others of those why can't they give the point to howard why why why throw another card at us when they can just give the point to howard i think howard howard could totally have the point um yeah
00:41:41
Speaker
I'm like really tempted to give him a two, but he's he's a one. you You don't play this. ah
00:41:49
Speaker
He can be a decent... like there There was a time when I would play Howard or Quinjet or Armor in Spectrum decks just because there weren't cheap ongoing cards.
00:42:03
Speaker
And I think you do... You wanted to give him a two just because he's bad Ant-Man. You do pick J. Jonah Jameson over... over Howard and Quinjet in, in spectrum.
00:42:14
Speaker
But i think probably you just don't have more ones than Ant-Man. so yeah, I'll give him a one as, as tempted as I am. um I also really hope one of his eight rude emotes is fake news. And I, I gave the feedback months ago that I hope they change that.
00:42:35
Speaker
i don't i hope want to I don't want to think about fake news me either and our 47th president while I'm playing Marvel Snap. No.
00:42:47
Speaker
I... Yep. Yep.
00:42:52
Speaker
Rhi, do you have a number for him? um Four stars. Four stars. Yes! That's just a but I do think, one, love that they made, i think they actually kind of nailed something with this. In that, they made a silly card that does ah like meta shenanigans. And let me compare this to like um Marvel Champions, the co-op card game.
00:43:26
Speaker
played against a automated villain deck, um did meta... They did it with Deadpool, of course, because that makes sense. But, like, my friends do not, like... I don't know how the broader community feels about it because connected to them at all. My friends hate the meta... Because it's like, in real life, do this thing. And it's just like... But it doesn't feel... It's not part of the card game, you know? And it just doesn't... So you can do it and it can be fun, but it's not really...
00:43:54
Speaker
it's just novelty which doesn't even last right or um but what they did is they did make they did make a goof it was a goof and but like you said because the ability is ongoing that gives us i mean so one three synergy right like one three text word no extra ability added to it so that means there are things that you can do with it. Like, and I was specifically thinking how much I would have loved this card. At one time I was building a Miss Marvel deck as one does occasionally at various times in one's life. And the problem with Ms. Marvel is when you're trying to get that stuff out, like, um you can't always, like, fill a lane for Ant-Man this side when you're also trying to, you know, and you're trying to insert various costs. And it's like, Howard, you're just putting in because it's ongoing, you know? It's the, but, like, this being yeah.
00:44:56
Speaker
It doesn't mean that it's great and it's going to go in a lot of things or anything, but it's a meme card that I could play with. There are points where I would have used this because a 1-3, it's going to be an ongoing that I'm going to beef up at that only one cost And so ah I kind of love this. I kind of think they did a great job. with it's like it's a It's an ongoing that has a meat that has no power beyond that it's ongoing and that synergy. And then they tacked on a fun thing to it. Will I ever see those emotes? No, I mute everyone. You know, it doesn't i have i tuned I've turned off his channel already. I'm not listening to that. So...
00:45:36
Speaker
um But I think think it's a great card. I'm glad that they're hopefully going to give it out very easily um for a goof. And ah yeah, that's why I get little good.
00:45:50
Speaker
Yeah, this is it's a lot more fun than... was going say it's more fun than the rocks. It's probably... I'm being wishy-washy. It is. This is this is a more fun...
00:46:03
Speaker
April Fools type thing to do than selling a rock avatar. Like, rock avatar is fun, but this is like a card you can play, and we don't have any other card in the game that is like a joke card. There are meme cards, but this is ah this is a joke card.
00:46:19
Speaker
i appreciate it.
00:46:25
Speaker
Was it a 1-ree? I didn't hear. No, she gave it a four. where I refused to give it a number, but I guess I would give it a one. You're pressed. it's ah Okay.
00:46:40
Speaker
That's the biggest diversity we've had on a card so far. Not just in this episode, but of all time. No, I think we have had one four splits before. think we've one four splits.
00:46:53
Speaker
Spider Sense! This is five cost standalone skill. You get it in an event. On reveal, give your characters here plus two power.
00:47:07
Speaker
So it gives out six power at the best. Costs one less for each movable card you've played. so they're trying to they're trying to make this movable card deck a thing with Aunt May and Spider Sense. And I think it's real with Aunt May. And I really doubt it with Spider Sense. Even if you make it free, which is you have to be playing a pretty silly deck to make this free.
00:47:34
Speaker
Even if you do make it free, it's i was just not that good. Like, like you I guess you have... no I was going to say Torch, but Torch isn't movable. like there there isn't There aren't movable cards that benefit from having two extra power.
00:47:50
Speaker
So, don't know. it's It's a silly card. It sure is. It's a one. That's my feeling. I don't even like what it does. That's like not, that's not very thematically. Oh, I hate it thematically. It would more if it made them scatter, you know? Like all the spider people sense danger and they fucking dipped, you know?
00:48:15
Speaker
Make them all do a silk. That would be a way cooler card. it really would. Thematically and mechanically.
00:48:24
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't feel like it justifies a spot in your deck compared to like many other things you want to put in your move deck. So, I mean, I can't i can't disagree. does seem pretty meh.
00:48:37
Speaker
Because you don't have room in your move deck to be like doubling up on this card and stuff, right? Like, you know? are Oh, you're saying to get double-dip to really stretch those points. What are you doing with it? You need to do something extra power with it. Go ahead. I think the vision is...
00:48:53
Speaker
The vision is you hit three movable cards and then you have six extra movable power, which is like movable power is better than non-movable power, but it still just doesn't seem that good.
00:49:05
Speaker
There's so many cards that both give power and move your cards, you know? like so yeah it's hard to pick one that doesn't move your movable cards. you know Wait, were you going put Spider Sense in the same deck as like MJ? It's just not working out, right? You've just got too much like non-move non-moving cards.
00:49:29
Speaker
I don't know what they're thinking. Okay. ah Should we move on to the next one? yeah yeah The last one. ah I heard the last one. I read this earlier. You started cracking me up again. This is 612. It's the Sinister Six. Okay.
00:49:45
Speaker
um I'm so happy they're making this a card instead of like yet another scorpion or something. Okay. Game a start. The first six characters you draw are evil. After you play them all, merge them into this and add it to the last one's location.
00:50:06
Speaker
You know. You know it's a four for me. It's stupid. I love it. i don't care how good it is or not good. I would totally just play it. yeah It was in in the season video for it. They're like, even if you don't win with it, it tells a story. i'm like, oh, you're really selling this card. They know it's bad, man. I love that they called that out. was so funny. um I love the card text. It was confirmed. I don't know if I've seen a confirmation from Second Dinner yet, but it's been found in the data mines. This card will not target itself, which makes it...
00:50:41
Speaker
significantly more playable i don't know if it makes it good but it it at least doesn't make it atrocious um hey rem i know if it can be in the first six cards of your deck so it could be in the top six cards and and in that case it's kind of like a wasted draw but it doesn't you don't have to play it to trigger its ability it will not be the it will not be one of the evil cards But it'll pull from your deck, right? If you play all the cards? Is that how it works? Yeah, it'll it'll summon itself. It's kind of a Dormammu thing. um
00:51:14
Speaker
Okay, so you could lockjaw it and then you make it out of your deck again. In some ways, it's more...
00:51:24
Speaker
uh it's more reliable than zombie galacti but it doesn't get nearly as big right uh and it's super duper vulnerable to things like shadow king and shong
00:51:38
Speaker
i want i feel like there's something here though i don't know what it is like what is the deck that this is This is a really fun card because it's a huge deck building puzzle. It's unlike anything we've seen before. What's the deck that wants to play a random six of the cards in your deck and still have other cards that can do useful things?
00:51:59
Speaker
I don't know what that looks like. Because like if you get greedy and do something like a Zola, you have a problem when Zola is one of your evil cards. Exactly. Same with Taskmaster. Yeah. So I don't think that's the plan.
00:52:11
Speaker
So then it's like, is it card gen? Because that gives you stuff in your hand and ways to play things to the board after you've, you know, ah cleared up a ton of board space.
00:52:23
Speaker
What about like Sauron or something? Where you're happy to merge them and get rid of like a Typhoid Mary ability or something. Oh, use it to get rid of bad abilities is interesting.
00:52:36
Speaker
Ebony Maw is not so bad in a Sinister Six deck. Right? Because you could stack... stuff in that way And you could get around... you could stack like... You could protect from Meshang with like a Typhoid Mary and then pull the power to a different location later. I don't know. i'm i like I want to play with it I'm making up stuff. Not pretending good stuff. think we all want to believe, right?
00:53:04
Speaker
It is very fun. Mm-hmm. How do you feel about it as... Like, how do you feel about a team being a character card?
00:53:16
Speaker
i like it. Yeah. You think it like it justifies itself because of the story it's telling? I don't want them to do a million of these. I don't want one of these every month. But, like, it is fucking goofy how...
00:53:30
Speaker
six Spider-Man villains will decide like, well, it hasn't been working one-on-one. Let's all team up. Despite the fact that we don't like, like each other all that much. And like, it's just goofy. It's always been goofy. And it's like, it's part of the, it's part of the Spider-Man like situation, you know, like this is, you gotta to have the sinister six.
00:53:53
Speaker
Yeah. I love it. I'm giving it a, uh, uh, thematic four and a mechanical two. Yep, that's where I am. Okay.
00:54:04
Speaker
As always, i want to hear which one are you most excited for this season? I will tell you.
00:54:14
Speaker
i i think I'm most excited for Sinister Six just like, you know, on launch day, but I don't see that still being exciting months from now. So I think...
00:54:27
Speaker
i don't know. I've got to give the nod to Tombstone, I think, for being the card that like really does something new. Mm-hmm. That's a strong choice. makes sense.
00:54:39
Speaker
um i Mine is obviously it is Sinister Six because I think because it is so, like, don't know how like how winnable it will be that I feel like even mirrors wouldn't be tilting you're just goofing.
00:54:53
Speaker
So, I say what about you, Ben? You know, there are several cards this season that I like. The ones that I'm most likely to play are Spider-Man Brand New Day, Aunt May, Tombstone, and Scorpion Brand New Day.
00:55:10
Speaker
And of those, the one that I like like the most, I mean, I like Tombstone because it is an exciting design that like does a cool thing, and i'm I'm excited to know which, you know, destroy friends will perhaps gain a seat at the table just by virtue of getting along with tombstone, but I, yeah, I think, man, i like Aunt May, but like, I don't like to play a new archetype when everyone else is very excited about the new archetype. And I think Aunt May is going to be real good.
00:55:44
Speaker
Um, I think you're overestimating the bulk of players willingness to play move. I think Aunt May is going to be so good that they're, and Aunt May and Spider-Man Brand New Day are going to be so good that like folks will they'll learn to love movies and Spider-Man Brand New Day is very strong yeah i don't I don't know I guess nobody nobody else picked Scorpion okay so I guess I'm most excited about Scorpion great and I'll say it one more time that I'm not afraid of Luke Cage come at me Luke bring a power man
00:56:24
Speaker
Well, thanks everybody for listening to our July ratings. Always exciting to start a new season. um On to our weeks in Snappery. Do you think it makes sense to save yours for the end?
00:56:39
Speaker
ah Yeah, sure. Okay. Ben, how was your week in Snap and Keep It Snappy? Well, my week in Snap, endeavoring to keep it snappy as I so occasionally do.
00:56:50
Speaker
um Do I want to set a timer on this day? Ooh, it looks like there was an OTA. Very exciting. WebSling got a buff.
00:57:01
Speaker
Yeah, i guess for we I guess I could talk about the OTA if I felt so inclined. um Sure, I'm going to set a timer for four minutes and eight seconds because that's just where the things landed when I was flipping them around.
00:57:15
Speaker
All right, so OTA. What do I think about it? Debris got small. That's fine. um i guess sonic lost a point of power that's fine aurora lost a point of power that's fine jubilee gained a point of power i think that makes it a much better card uh that's new jubilee by the way uh web sling gained a point of power uh i don't think that it might be more than one because you could move it multiple times
00:57:46
Speaker
It's every time it moves the next turn. So i don't don't know how much you can super-duper capitalize on that, but like... It's for Torch, right? Hercules? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not that impressed. Nocturne gets a point.
00:58:00
Speaker
I don't think she'll be as good as she was last time she was 3-5, but I'm excited about it. Topaz gets a point. I don't think it makes a huge difference. like um You know, maybe that Web Sling buff is going to be like...
00:58:16
Speaker
enough to, to make people play it, but I'm still not excited about it. don't know. Mostly I'm excited for Nocturne. That's cool. Um, other stuff I, man, I, I, I think I'm going to have to play some Mugenics after the move. Cause, uh, I guess I haven't, not enough of my cats have died.
00:58:38
Speaker
There's one final social link that I need to max out and you max that one out by, uh, getting your cats killed but i guess i'm just too careful a steward of um my my my sweet little little feline friends uh just too good at the game maybe i don't know i have now finished a run of the the third act on the highest difficulty setting which Seems like it should be the most challenging thing. I think if I have to, i might have to, I might have to kill Hitler one more time.
00:59:15
Speaker
i i did not know Hitler was in the game. Yeah, you you kill. It doesn't surprise me but I didn't know that. Yeah. ah He's he's up to no good as as you might expect.
00:59:29
Speaker
um Yeah, probably back at the house. I mean, like I kill Hitler in the future all the time. Oh, that's a small spoiler. Hitler's in the future. um But probably back at the house. I need to kill house boss Hitler after fighting a couple of other house bosses, some Terminators and things. um But yeah, one of these days, Stephen's going to tell me I 100% of I've been stalled at 99% for long
01:00:01
Speaker
And you still don't know if you like it. Ben, you play it so much. I mean, I like it. There are things I like about it. I take some issue with some things. And like I spend a lot of time looking at my inventory of equipment and deciding which things to throw away because like there's very limited space. And i would propose that maybe...
01:00:21
Speaker
you should get to store one of each piece of equipment for free. have stocked and then you worry about whether you want to like keep duplicates. I think that would be cool.
01:00:33
Speaker
um Cause I, man, the, the analysis paralysis is real. spend a lot of time deciding which cats to bring on adventures. Like I probably spend the most time on those two screens. The, which shit do I need to throw away?
01:00:50
Speaker
and which shit to save for future things because like some of the gear is like so specialized and if I get rid of the the shit synergy stuff yes that's stuff for making your shits come alive and fight for you because you know sometimes cats be pooping
01:01:08
Speaker
I don't know I don't know there are just like some small changes that could make the game a lot less stressful and just like an easier chiller hang while not removing like the significant difficulty that you can get into.
01:01:24
Speaker
Other than that, I've been playing a bunch of Hearthstone Battlegrounds because that's good to do during a move. Um, and, uh, I, I, I like to hop in there and hop out, but my timer went off, so you'll never know. Oh, all right. All right. If you insist, I'll tell you which, which, uh, which, which minion types I like.
01:01:43
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I like Naga. I like, uh, demons, like elementals. Dragons are all right. Um, I think those are mostly my favorites. I mean, I will mess with some beasts. I'll mess with some Murlys. I like Murlys all right.
01:01:59
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um Not a big fan of the mechs or the undead, ah partly because speaking of like essential problems with games, ah the combats take too long to watch and you need to close the app and restart the app every goddamn time. You never get to see your minions fight if you play with mechs or undead. So that's ah that's a real problem there.
01:02:20
Speaker
And, uh, these have been my game. I also played some Marvel's. Oh, snap. I do actually have to say a Marvel snap thing real quick. I've been playing a lot of discard Dracula in 2026. That's what I've been doing. I needed a break from surfer and it's just such a solid deck. It's winning a lot.
01:02:38
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If you haven't played classic Dracula discard with apocalypse and stuff, maybe a little con shoe in there. I have been playing some, uh, weapon h and he's just kind of a stinker compared to those two like i i was worried that like it would be one too many cards that are good when you discard them but like no weapon h is just not up there with the rest of the pack i hate to say it but i've still been playing him just because i'd like to experiment with things but it hasn't filled me with belief i think he's a stinker
01:03:14
Speaker
And I think it's fine that he's kind of a stinker. He's still a little bit interesting and I still like him and not every card needs to be Kanshu level good. That was my weekend snap. I went a little over my four minute and eight second timer or whatever, but I would love to hear about somebody else's.
01:03:31
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I had a very busy weekend snap. uh as listeners may know i had a deck featured in the new grand arena that was very cool they had all 21 champions playable on each one a deck pitched by a creator i got human torch who was my first choice my favorite deck or my favorite champion uh yeah So that's been really fun. I've played a dozen games with other people's decks and 200 with my own. I really, really like Grand Arena. um Yeah, it just, it tickles something for me.
01:04:11
Speaker
And I think it's that it lets you go all in on a single card because you know you're drawing that card and that skill. ah So you can like...
01:04:22
Speaker
But, you know, the the combo side of me really likes that, really likes that I don't have to have backup plans. I can be all in on plan a and then after that, it's your sub plans. I was on the Snapchat with Alex Cocho, so check that out if you haven't already. it was fun Oh, you were great. I did check that out. Oh, thanks. Got to talk a little bit about Fourth Location, which was cool because last time I was on the Snapchat, I was just announcing Fourth Location. um and So, as you know, it's been like seven months or something. It's crazy.
01:04:53
Speaker
And then finally, I was on the official Marvel Snap Channel featuring Namarita wearing the best earrings I've ever bought in my entire
01:05:04
Speaker
Oh, no. Reed, did you have difficulty hearing Lauren? Yeah, you cut out for a second, Lauren. I'm sorry. And you are still Oh, I can't hear you. Yeah. It's just one of those days.
01:05:18
Speaker
Oh, no. wow It's fine. um It is a silly tune. But I can hear you. this place That's good.
01:05:30
Speaker
All right, listener, this this time it was my turn to have technical issues. My mic just cut. And ah I don't know if it's going to make the episode or not because this has been a mess. But like I joked after after Ben and had the problem. though Like, oh, well, now I'm going to ruin the third the third section of the recording. And sure enough...
01:05:50
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I did. We each have had a technical issue today. How exciting. um yeah i was just saying I had killer earrings. Honestly, the whole outfit was new for that recording. i could Thanks. I tried to get things that I would be happy to wear since. And I have already worn since. um Everything was picked out by my 14 year old, except for the squishy earrings.
01:06:14
Speaker
Great. um that's Yeah, that's all I want to talk about. It was a it was big, exciting, very busy week in Snap for me. Yeah. yeah oh
01:06:25
Speaker
yeah I'm trying to decide about how personal I want to get about about what about my life. ah Work has been going very poorly for me, and that is just weighing on absolutely everything. did not.
01:06:38
Speaker
Yeah. i I've never been in that kind of position before, and it sucks. So ah that's been like really hard to balance with also doing all the freaking snap things in the same week. They coalesced, but you know it is It is the game I love and a community that I enjoy interacting with, so I am ah delighted to do so. We'll go on to Rhi. How was your weekend snap and keep it snappy?
01:07:10
Speaker
Okay, so I guess then I am making this announcement. i wasn't sure if you good. Do you want me to? I'm happy to let you do it. now um Okay, so yeah, this is good.
01:07:24
Speaker
I mean, the same this is, okay, this is is some bad news. and Just, ah you know, prepare yourselves. But, um I mean, it's been discussed before, but we ah talked like it was like right after the episode released last time. And, um you know, Lauren does all the work for the show, and she really, really needs – um more time And we we need to stop doing the show weekly. We need to put a hiatus. We will see what we can do to maybe come back, like, maybe, like, quarterly or, and you know, maybe come back for some specials. But it is, we are going put the show in hiatus at, like, probably, we're looking at, like, episode 100 or
01:08:16
Speaker
um are so You know, give it a nice, like, clean number. Um, and you know, it, it is like, i i did, I handled it like a pro because, you know, it's, it's what it, it is what needs to be. We've kind of recognized, you know,
01:08:35
Speaker
um and then We do this for love and and it should never be a thing from stress. But it did trigger within me because thing is, I do not have, i don't have, we're talking about spider sense. I have no spider sense. I get so lost my own thoughts that people like will not even be trying to like,
01:08:56
Speaker
do a sneak roll or be a ninja and will walk up to me and I'll be like, oh as soon as I noticed them, because they just suddenly like, it's like video game style. They suddenly rendered because I was like so lost in my own head, you know? So I don't have spider sense, but like my, my, like draw distance of like six inches.
01:09:13
Speaker
Yeah, I just, I very quickly, very quickly get spun off into my own flat trains. But so like, I don't have that. My ah extra sensory ability is more akin to x twenty three our Wolverine. It's like I can smell in the air. And I have been feeling this even before the announcement that it's like this smells amazing.
01:09:38
Speaker
this this feels in the air like a time of change, right? Like a time of, like a pert at least for me personally, certainly, you know, change are always happening. But like, you know, like in like a change of era in my life. And i was kind of of like, oh no, because I could feel it was like an oncoming conjunction of many crises into the week. And um because like I – Like, I don't want to say endings are particularly hard for me because they're hard for everyone, right? It's our ability to like connect ourselves to things, to people, to objects, to anything. Our ability to connect is what both, you know what i mean? when When it's severed, that hurts. But if you don't do that, you know, then what's the point to even like being alive, right? If you can never connect to something. So, but it still, it still sucks and it's hard. And I have had these moments and I was thinking back to this specific moment i had that was like, I don't know, I was probably like, maybe I was out of college, but still in the area, you know, lingering as one does occasionally. yeah.
01:10:58
Speaker
And like, I think it was like an open mic night or something that at a bar, I was like with my friend, going to bars. <unk> last So long. Okay. But like, ah you know, and I was sitting,
01:11:12
Speaker
with like a pleasant buzz listening like, you know, stand up that we're all laughing at and, you know, someone play a guitar and I could, you could just feel, you could just feel it in the air. And what I was thinking in that moment is like, this is, this is going to end like this. This moment, all like this, this magical collection of like people creating this moment of like music and brightness that like fireside, right? That like, that like primal, like someone built a fire and you're going toward it. And there's talk and laughter, right? And there are these moments when people come together and make that.
01:11:55
Speaker
you know and and it's it's just like the oceans of coming together and going apart because things things have to change right they like it's like we wouldn't when things don't change we hate it we're like if i can do some new ip you know we don't like to see you can't have nostalgia and rose tinted glasses for something that doesn't end right you just live to see it ah you know become something you don't like anymore so Um, you know, so we need change. And and ah in this moment, I didn't, I also realized, right, I think in that moment, maybe more, I was like, how do I make this forever? How do i you know, and then there was another thigh head where it's like, how do I get out first? How do I not be the last one to like, you know, feel this?
01:12:43
Speaker
And Now, it I think once you get old enough, you're like, you recognize the necessity, right? You can't, there are some friends, it's like people have to move, things have to change.
01:12:56
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And it's this thing of like, enjoying enjoying it, recognizing it, appreciate it, enjoying it, trying to create new experiences like that.
01:13:07
Speaker
And then and what I wanted to do was just not like wallow in sad when I realized, i'm like, oh, my gosh, the podcast is going to end. I don't want to like wallow in. So I want to finally be able to take an ending, to take an era of change and not just a sad negative way. um and look at it is in you know is an opportunity. So one crisis is just like, oh, we've been doing this for a really long time. you know Lauren and Ben like mean a lot. We've been through like you know experiences together and everything. So that in itself is like is is pretty difficult. And then you know it's combining with with the
01:13:49
Speaker
Like, I went to go play and I'm like, I can't play Snap. It's too, set you know, dramatically to my fainting couch. I can't open Snap, you know. But then I realized it confronted me.
01:14:00
Speaker
it made me confront my relationship ah that I have with Snap, which was no longer where when I started, it was this card game that I loved and I was so excited about and I enjoyed playing What it has become for me, and I don't think this is what SNAP is for a lot of people, but I think a lot of people have something like this in their lives, is an area of avoidance. Like said, i can my brain can be like trapped like a little animal by like by like a ripet. I can get into coding. you know i can get into like just lots and lots of SNAP or something and just lose time into it. and
01:14:44
Speaker
Snap would do that for But here's the thing about, you know, if you follow, you know, I've been trying to stand up my own gaming studio. You know, originally, I only wanted to provide like the code and the creativity, you know, always it was going to be like, let me let someone else be the jobs. I'll be I'll be the woes man.
01:15:05
Speaker
And um it just came out, you know, like one of the many reasons i started streaming was like, it's like, well, I, but now I have, you know, I have to be the the face. Right. And I've put out games. I'm like, I need to start doing this. I need to start doing dev diaries and everything like that. And I just like,
01:15:29
Speaker
haven't. It's just easier for me to go in and code stuff and do other stuff. And I've really been drinking. I realized what I was doing playing Snap is it felt like progress because i don't stream. i really haven't been streaming anymore or anything. Like the podcast is my one platform, um you know, is's like Lauren just said everything she does. Like, you know, like podcast is among the least successful things Lauren does.
01:15:56
Speaker
For Snap. So like, you know, and and you can see it for his location. Ben still streams when he can. He does the tournaments and stuff. But it's like, where for we? like You know, this is what I do. And that's what I've been doing in Snap. I'm like, well, that's the podcast is the thing that is teaching me. to speak in public, to like do this kind of stuff. And playing Snap is what makes me able to like be good at the podcast, know the game, well, the podcast. so I could pour all this time into Snap and that was somehow doing the thing
01:16:28
Speaker
that I should have been doing, you know? i hadn't even realized this until like we were, yeah it's like, this is why, this is why I play Snap anymore. And that's one of the reasons it hasn't felt fulfilling for me for a very long time.
01:16:45
Speaker
was like, okay,
01:16:52
Speaker
so i was like okay what what am I gonna do? Because like my big idea to do a, know, to make a thing had been like the tiny game idea, if you listen to that. But um I specifically toward Lauren, we are definitely putting that on hiatus because it's a commitment which she made much later. So it's gonna hold and I don't need it, but it's kind of like, okay, like I need to do something.
01:17:21
Speaker
And i realized it was like, but this is, this is why I was doing the podcast. You know what i mean? And it it's like, and I've learned and it just came to me one night that I couldn't sleep. You know what i mean? So i had, i had vaguely thought when the podcast would end, I would start a studio podcast, but that would be like way in the future at a different time. and i was like, what is it? What do i do? And it's like, but I've,
01:17:50
Speaker
I have. i have learned this whole time. I've gotten vastly better since we ah started podcasting. i am ah The anxiety scale before starting has substantially decreased, you know, compared to total. um So, you know, I talking with me studio...
01:18:11
Speaker
partner and we were freaking out first because we're like oh we have to do what do we do that's gonna have like a mass appeal to get attention to the studio but i was like that's not i can't do a big new project this is why i'm not doing snap on this because i am not my my objective has never been to be a snap content creator i love interacting with game communities and stuff But, like, there's a thing where people, when they when they really have free time, right, what they want to do, and, and and like, they're not under super stress and stuff like that, um which has different behaviors. Some people, like, I've had friends, and I see when they have that time, they want to write fanfics of their favorite ships. They want to do, you know, art. that's like And that's, like, the purest thing, you know, to do, I think, is what you really want to do.
01:19:08
Speaker
you know, for it pays you.
Podcasting Journey and Motivation
01:19:10
Speaker
And for me, it is always, I've always had this hunger to like create fill blank pages. I cannot stop myself, you know? And I, so it's like, yeah I'll never, you know, i'm not, I'm not going to be a content creator. So I've realized,
01:19:25
Speaker
It was like freaking out because I'm like, how do I do a podcast? It's like I already know, right? I already know. And I don't need it to have. don't need it to have big audience to grow. My aim with it is not, you know, getting monetized, getting sponsorships, getting followers. It is to find – um To find my tribe, to find, cause I have this, this, this belief, right? I look at our broken, or broken gaming industry. It is broken, right? Like it is broken for the employees. It is broken for the consumers. There's so many people that look at that now and say, well, that's just the way it has to be. That's the way things get made.
01:20:12
Speaker
But it's not, but it's not the very first games where some coders with some free time. you know, who who made it for a love. None of this has to be. There are other people out there who fell in love with the medium, the medium of video games and the things that can do that other other mediums can't. And they they see it as the art and craft it is. And it should never it should never be a servant to money.
01:20:43
Speaker
Money should be a resource for it, you know? And I think, ah and I reject, I reject an alternate viewpoint. And I think video games should be held, should be shepherded by people who value human experience and human creation and not, you know, and not money and not, ah you know,
01:21:07
Speaker
stolen ah AI whatever from actual creators.
Trouble Code Podcast Plans
01:21:12
Speaker
Okay. So ah that is to say, so I realized like I already, i already have the format, you know? um And oh, let me gas up Frank because he's way better. i like to like just outsource naming to him now.
01:21:27
Speaker
um It's one of his talents. He came up with the name. So I'm going to do a podcast. It's going to be set to start after. Snap on this end. So I'll try and um have it be more smoothly up after we go.
01:21:42
Speaker
but he came up with the name. It's going to be called Trouble Code. I love it Okay, I have the the title. I actually started working on it, and I was going to play it. But it sounds good, though, because I'm only used to editing sound, not creating it. So I got work on it a little bit.
01:21:59
Speaker
But it's kind of, um okay, let me see if I can do this for you. I made, I got into a, like, a music creation thing. And I made a sound that's kind of like, beep, beep, beep.
01:22:18
Speaker
Do-do-do-do-do. And then, you know, my voice, because what other voice do I have? Electronicized, you know, lady voice, like trouble code, you know? so it's just like a little piece of the dial-up modem sequence not done in the actual, not like the actual clip, but recreating the sound that is just, some people will get it.
01:22:39
Speaker
Okay. I got it immediately. Yeah. Yeah. then the first segment is just gonna be my weekend snap but not snap i'm gonna take a break from snap for like forever just so i can reset it back to being like the fun card game it should be for me and um yeah so it'll be but it's like okay because this is you know this is for the student stuff like i can throw in images i'll edit and stuff so um And it'll be easier for me to do because I don't, you know, not having to schedule like, right, we sit and we all record this together. And, you know, that's it. So it's a little easier for me to produce. And there'll be that. And then the main segment will be like, like, I don't know, like, I want to tell you about how did you know that there was like a real medieval knitting guild? Only men were allowed in it. Right. But that was the master. there's Only they could turn the sock.
01:23:38
Speaker
And it's it's going to be really straight. And I love to talk about that and how I like brought that into like this Mouse Kingdom Knitter's Guild that I've made. um that I can like show this place here. art I already made it. It's real cool. And I'm this neuter spells person with this really sweet animation i'm making. And just, you know, i like and little story little little game dev
Guest Appearances and Future Plans
01:24:00
Speaker
stories. Also, though, also the main segment, instead of that, some weeks could be a guest. like I would love to bring Lauren on one week and talk about all our favorite cartoons, to be honest. Yeah.
01:24:13
Speaker
um we like a lot of the same ones or like i could have been on to talk about what makes a good beta in a game because it's something really actually need to get better and uh because i have this thing of like i want to make it perfect and then they shall see it but that's uh not necessarily how the beta should work and ben has played uh has participated numerous so um you know yeah that ah that would be it so it's like and i feel like You know, like this ending,
01:24:45
Speaker
um you know, sort of ending of a thing, doesn't it doesn't have to be all sad. as in the past, hopefully it can lead new fun things.
01:25:00
Speaker
We'll see. um I went on for a long time. I meant to prepare myself better, have a better flow of things. but Oh, you did fine. how it goes Yeah, I'm so glad you're the one who did that. You did much better than I would have.
01:25:15
Speaker
hey and it was lovely. And I'm excited to hear about your new podcast, Trouble Code. um Yeah, I think there's a few things. i I appreciate what you're getting at where, like, the fact that things end is Like, that's that's why we need to appreciate them, and that's part of what makes them good. I don't know, special.
01:25:40
Speaker
ah I think the long and short of it is is I don't absolutely need this to end yet, but I wanted to do it on our terms before it absolutely needed to.
01:25:51
Speaker
So, ah you know, ah three to seven more episodes. And then, you know, we won't we won't just disappear without telling you. There will be there will be notice. There will be a big fun celebration.
01:26:07
Speaker
a yeah, we're super appreciative for all of you who are listening.
01:26:15
Speaker
We do love the listeners. That's why we're doing it. It's not your fault. Because of the people who come out. Yeah, and listen all the stuff and hang out. Yeah.
01:26:28
Speaker
That's true. ah I didn't think I was going to make it through without crying. It wasn't too much. If you liked what you heard and you haven't already, like and subscribe. ah You know, that'll be that'll be important so you can catch...
01:26:44
Speaker
intermittent specials that we might put out later um you can come join our little corner of discord the speakeasy that'll that'll still continue there's a healthy little community there the instructions are in the show notes and video description we're probably part of the snap judgments network where you can listen on to other great shows like snap judgments our titular grand pod on saturdays from pulse
Toy Community Anecdote: 'Pony Cancer'
01:27:10
Speaker
glazer and nick the greek geek they cover all sorts of things and play all sorts of games and have all sorts of guests it is elaborate um yeah tune in next week when we will finally get to dungeon crawler carl uh we i i just totally spaced last week that this was gonna be our our spider-man rankings season so we will finally get to it i'm like a third of of my way through a re-listen same snap time same snap channel
01:27:44
Speaker
you hear my beetle earrings? I sure can. Are they beetles? They're beetle shells. Oh, they're so green and shiny, though. and They are ethically sourced beetle shells.
01:27:59
Speaker
Oh, like they're real? Yeah. Got them at like a little you know little witchy market. cool. I don't even think they're painted. yeah, they're really cool.
01:28:11
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Um...
01:28:17
Speaker
Anybody got anything? I can't top that. I have lots of things. I will have to think a thing that is not spiraling out over our country.
01:28:29
Speaker
I talk to people and I realize, someone i' be like did you hear this thing? And i I'm almost insulted. like i think I'll think they're being misogynist. because it's like Yeah, let me tell you five paragraphs more than you knew about it right now. Of course I know about this.
01:28:42
Speaker
But I realize like I don't like I'm just an insane person who knows everything. You put a lot of energy into that. Yeah, for sure. Okay.
01:28:52
Speaker
um Instead of complaining about when people talk about that random interesting fact, ah did you know pony cancer? say Okay, sorry. This sounds this sounds sad I said I was going to not do it sad. Okay, not real ponies. Sorry. Right up front, the ponies are not actual real-life ponies with cancer. Feel no sadness. You can feel a little sad because this is okay. Right. Someone was like, I saw someone um in a not, not, not a related subreddit be like, Oh my gosh, what the piece of, is this pony cancer?
01:29:26
Speaker
And it's like, don't, you know, don't worry. It's not everyone thinks everything's pony cancer. I'm like, what the fuck is pony cancer? yeah Okay.
01:29:36
Speaker
And pony cancer is, it's like plastics, right? Certain plastics like can like super deteriorate over time. It's been a while now since I learned about this. So it's like especially interacting with other things, and it'll lead to like the degradation, and it'll spread, and it'll ruin all toys. Specifically, it happened in a certain like generation. you're into toys, there are generations of like My Little Pony and doll ones and all the things. And was made with T-plastors just afflicted with pony cancer. The same thing happens to ah Legos.
01:30:15
Speaker
And they call it, like they like i wrote this down somewhere, gold plastic syndrome. There's a term for it. It's like specifically gold Legos were made with a kind of thing where they would deteriorate. And it's just like, but I love that there are little community like pieces on the internet where someone is like, you know, like pony cancer.
01:30:41
Speaker
And it's like, ah three times a week here. We have people just afraid of pony cancer all over the place. Just like, ah, okay. I'm so fascinated. i want to know all the, the small little things.
01:30:52
Speaker
like What everybody calls their plastic degradation in their community. Correct. There should be a combined glossary, a guide, which forms plastic degradation in toys.
01:31:03
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A medical, a medical, like, I don't think there's coming back from it. It's all terminal. Sorry. I thought this would be sad. Terminal illnesses of toys. Here's your happy ending!
01:31:15
Speaker
Okay, sorry. It's been a dark week for me in some ways. I guess so. Wow.