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93: Just to Spite Me
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🏖️🐬 Will Beach Vacation Pool Party season live up to its vibes? The cohosts discuss!! 🏄♀️🏄🏄♀️
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Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 28 Zeldas Later: The Sword Temple
- 0:01:25 June Card Ratings
- 0:01:50 Jeff the Baby Dolphin!?
- 0:11:17 Venus
- 0:18:17 Monstro
- 0:23:50 Jubilee Silver Surfer
- 0:31:57 Quicksand
- 0:41:06 Sub-Mariner
- 0:47:18 Namorita
- 0:53:07 Triton
- 1:00:24 Excitement Check
- 1:11:09 Our Week in Snap
- 1:21:16 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Zelda-inspired Podcast Concept
00:00:01
Speaker
What if it was? It was like the, the the ah in Zelda, what was it, the sword temple where you have to go back to like like having nothing but like a stick. like so Let's do the podcast that one day. Let's like get sticks and then graduate over the course to like like cooler items.
00:00:16
Speaker
Oh, I know what you're talking about. I'm over here thinking like, Temple of Time, you're going back to being young Link, but no, you're talking about like
Nostalgia for Zelda Games
00:00:23
Speaker
in ah in breath of the wild Breath of the Wild, the island. That is such a fun...
00:00:29
Speaker
but it's I like that you went to a Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time, whichever time. They're things. was thinking of Time. Whichever time thing. Okay. I like that your brain went there first as it should. This is right and proper.
00:00:41
Speaker
I mean, they're all
Rating New Game Cards
00:00:42
Speaker
so good. I thought Breath of the Wild was the first time I'd felt that magic of something new that I felt from Ocarina of Time when I played Breath of the Did play Majora Wind Waker? These are fantastic games. Okay, I played Majora. Or no, I didn't. I started it, but then I didn't.
00:01:02
Speaker
And then I also started Wind Waker, then it was like there was a lot of like... Sailing? Yeah, that wasn't like, I feel like particularly fun or something. so Oh, I love both of those games.
00:01:18
Speaker
Majora's Mask is really dark. It might be something you enjoy more now. um Oh, for sure. Yeah. Anyway, we're we here. We are going to rate the June cards that are coming up. There's eight of them. It's a beach
Analyzing Jeff the Baby Dolphin Card
00:01:33
Speaker
bash season.
00:01:35
Speaker
We'll give them a score of one through four and talk about it. Rhi, you want to take on the season pass? Oh, man. Okay. ah Is that Jeff the Baby Dolphin? Mm-hmm.
00:01:47
Speaker
I have a helpful guide written out here above the image. Yes. Jeff ah the Baby Dolphin. A 2 cost card with 2 power.
00:01:58
Speaker
um And the ability your cards reveal here with plus 1 power. Moveable um i mean this feels this is like three to four star territory right because man poor poor regular jeff wants the beloved he's kind of like but he never grow good right okay okay sorry like i recently i haven't seen mandalorian the movie haven't even the mandalorian and grogu Yeah, I forgot it was coming out because, like, and I read all the Star Wars comics. Like, Star Wars is, you know, like many of us, a key part of my identity. But, like, and I remember when it first came out, you're like, yeah, like, baby Yoda, we love him. And it's like, I have seen them everywhere so much for so many years
00:02:48
Speaker
And I'm like, I don't know. don't know about this little, this little, everyone keeps trying to show me their baby, their baby Yoda. You know, it's like, it's like Disney's coming out with their wallet of like kid pictures. Like, like look, look, isn't it cute?
00:03:01
Speaker
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I saw it. I saw it yesterday too. Still cute baby. Good job. Good job doing that one that everyone liked. Okay, sorry. But, like, that never happened to Jeff.
00:03:11
Speaker
Kelly Thompson, you're genius. Because, like, you know, Jeff is still... We all still love Jeff, even though we don't play him in our decks anymore. But, okay, what the whole point... I'm sorry. I'm like, ugh. I'm not feeling well. Okay, so...
00:03:24
Speaker
Jeff is a 2-4, right? Which is an an increase. um And he can his his differentiating ability is that nothing can stop him from moving a being placed. Jeff 2-4, right?
00:03:36
Speaker
Oh, because Nightcrawler's a 1-3 now. yep Yeah, remember Power Creep? Remember the Power Creep? I was still thinking of 22-3 Jeff back in the day. yeah man Yeah. We're all living in the now. Wishing we were living before the now. Okay. I ought to come back and circle around to to old Jeff.
00:03:57
Speaker
I like that 2-4 idea. Right?
Utility of Jeff the Baby Dolphin
00:03:59
Speaker
So the problem is, but, like, even that, even with that, it's not, I play Jeff all the time because i like I like Jeff and I like to play, i like to print pretend, like, silky smooth type stuff could, like, ever still be a thing. And I guess now it's zombies, right? Zombies replaced the, like, Angela style.
00:04:18
Speaker
Yeah. So, ah yeah, the undead taken away. Okay. but Anyway, so. But Dolphin is new, Angela. Yeah. Yes. And this is... I feel like... That's what I first thought when I looked at this card, though, was how much weaker Jeff feels. Because here's... And it's like, why is that? Because he has a different ability, right? and it's like, because... He's for power that they can't stop you from playing or moving. And how often is that enough to, like, swing? h
00:04:49
Speaker
like a lady Or if you're doing something that uses a lot of move stuff. or I don't know. Whatever you're doing, I don't know. He doesn't he doesn't win you a game. It used to be like they'd play the Professor X and you're like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:05:02
Speaker
Hey, shall Jeff you will turn six and that wins and they didn't they didn't expect it and that won the lane. And it's like you're never just dropping a Jeff down to win a Professor lane. When's the last time you had that like bit of glory? Okay, so um this is way more power. this is This is better than Angela. I feel like this is better. I don't know. i hate that they're making new cards that are just like, you know, I'm you, but better, you know, like ah me now, you know, and it's just like, but I like the old cards too Could you just do something different? I don't know.
00:05:41
Speaker
But it's you know it's Jeff and a baby dolphin So it's like it's like they took the thing they're don't you love the thing more If we put it in a dolphin costume it's like yeah I guess But like don't you dare Grogu baby Jeff the baby land shark I hate you It is from the comics snap the The dolphin suit So there's at least that It's not it's not a second dinner invention But we're getting, like, the... I guess it's not too much yet. Like, because there's Jeff Rance, but they're, like, mixed in. but i just I just, you know, I've just been burned by this world so many times. Okay. um That's... i've and what do you what do Where are you rating him? What do you think? You're locking in at three or four?
00:06:25
Speaker
ah Let's give it a four. Okay. Can I talk you down to a three? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, I don't know. Scott and I both, we recorded yesterday, we both called it the best card of the season. I'm interested to hear your arguments. i I don't think that can possibly be true. um
Comparing Various Cards
00:06:49
Speaker
I mean, it's fine. It's it's good it's better than Angela.
00:06:53
Speaker
the The rumors are all true. um it just seems a little... i mean it It just doesn't do enough, I don't think. That's that's just... ah I mean, like if if if we're playing everything honestly and we're not you know multiplying any of the things that Jeff gives us, you can get 2.8, and that's pretty cool.
00:07:18
Speaker
i mean, like I'll give it a 3, but like I don't know. It doesn't seem that Bananagrams to me. I just... There's another card coming later where I'm like, well, this is a good thing to do. You're just not doing enough of it.
00:07:32
Speaker
And that's sort of how I feel about about this one here. And, like, you need to get Jeff on board, like, so early. Like, ooh, you get this one late, and it does not feel very good at all.
00:07:46
Speaker
Like... Okay, but what if you're playing, like, a Moon Girl or a, like, one of those, what was that old Glen deck where you, like, drop, like, Wasp and, like, Thor and, like, a bunch of stuff? It was, like, a Hitmonkey Hammers deck. Yeah, Hitmonkey Hammers. Yeah, like, the little, like, I love little, like, drop them all down at the turn six. They're all little cards. It's fun stuff.
00:08:08
Speaker
dolphin jeff on two like yeah what are even doing here you know really i don't think he's that bad if you get him out on i don't know four or something like that you can still proc him a few you were just talking about going back to og jeff this is better than that no jeff jeff's got that that line of text about being able to go anywhere well how often does that come up all the time that's a huge deal that's like that's a that's a big deal i i know where to get extra points of power dolphin jeff you know like i'm like i i don't i don't see yeah i i think it's a fine card it's not a bad card by any means i just don't think it does that much
00:08:53
Speaker
So, Ben, are you saying that your surfer party is going to reject Jeff the baby dolphin from surfing you? mean, quite possibly. There are so many good cards you can play in Surfer that, like, it's just... it's You weep for the ones that aren't in the deck, you know?
00:09:12
Speaker
Like, it's it's just, it's it's such a shame. Like, it genuinely is, but you can't play all the good cards. And I just, I don't know if this card is good enough. Or also, it just, like, doesn't do, the thing it does is so readily available from, like, so many other sources, and it just doesn't do the best version of it. You know what I mean?
00:09:33
Speaker
I don't know.
Card Mechanics and Strategies
00:09:35
Speaker
It's a pretty good version. It's a bit of a plus one problem that doesn't doesn't do it for me.
00:09:42
Speaker
it's a four for me I don't know if I really think he's the best card of the season but I think he's safest like he there is I don't think he will flop um or some of the others I'm like some of the others I think are quite niche and Jeff I think is is a very like generically strong card so uh an actual four that's not a guardians four and it's not a dragons four it's an actual four right in the middle of those two um just I think it's going to be everywhere.
00:10:13
Speaker
Right? yeah And yeah possibly skewed by the fact that right now we're playing in ah throw the buffs everywhere meta, and he definitely fits in. But... Oh, it's pretty good. You can give plus three to one lane, move him, and give plus three to another lane? That's cool.
00:10:28
Speaker
I mean, the plus three is split among different things. Like, you're giving plus one to your Maverick. You're giving plus one to your Captain Carter. Yeah. I don't know. There's that too. You were talking about the honest Jeff. And if you play him with cute things that can take advantage of that plus one. Yeah. gets bigger and bigger.
00:10:50
Speaker
It's just, it's it's not as much as giving one of those dishonest things like plus two or plus three. Like, you know, I, I just, uh, it just doesn't seem like enough to me.
00:11:02
Speaker
Okay. Or I mean, like, it's a fine card. I mean, like, I gave it a three. it's It's like, it's fine. You know? Yeah. I gave out a lot of threes this time. Well, all all these cards are pretty, not all of them, but most of these cards are pretty good.
00:11:15
Speaker
It's a strong season, I think. Okay. Speaking of things that can be cute with Jeff, you want to take the super premium? It's Venus. All right. It's it's Venus. um And I didn't want to sound like such a broken record, but I have similar thoughts about this one. Venus is a 3-3. When your cards in play are empowered, give those cards an additional plus one power.
00:11:39
Speaker
um Again, seems a little small and slow. ah Like, I just...
00:11:50
Speaker
I couldn't decide if I wanted to give this one a 2 or a 3. um I don't know. I guess I'll give it a low three. I was given everything threes this time. yeah um Sort of ruins the screw it. I'll give her a two.
00:12:03
Speaker
Yep. Wow. i Ben hates buffs. Kind of the same story as Jeff. Like, come back to me when it's plus two, you know? And like three, three, I just...
00:12:17
Speaker
The numbers just don't... I mean, this is one this is one like balance change, that kind of buff, away from like you know being really good. But yeah, I just... The the potatoes are too small.
00:12:31
Speaker
That's what I think.
00:12:34
Speaker
I mean, compare this to Horseman Storm or um just like a lot of other cards. I don't know.
00:12:44
Speaker
I think she can she can do a lot more than Storm Horseman with the right partners, right? If you're talking about like a Marvel boy or Nova
New Card Synergies and Value
00:12:53
Speaker
or Jeff, like things that are handing – or Bishop, like things that are handing out little plus ones, you get a lot of benefit by doubling those.
00:13:02
Speaker
I think she would be absolutely broken at two. That's what I'm thinking. I've played, right? like ah How much better she is than Mystique for copying Blue Marvel in certain decks where you're just trying to like buy? Because I've played plenty of those decks. Does Blue Marvel empower them?
00:13:22
Speaker
No, ongoing going to honest. Oh, because it's ongoing. Ah, and power keeps, like, so they're new keywords. To be fair, it's a new word. But yeah, that's going to be an on but ah an ongoing problem as they keep adding more words. But okay, she gives, okay, so then Ironheart, right, is what we're thinking about would count with her, right? Anything that gives green power that's not ongoing.
00:13:47
Speaker
Anything that gives power that's not ongoing. Okay. Um, that does hurt. Yeah, I still want to try her in one of... and a little i I don't know. I want to like her. I give her a three, but like...
00:14:02
Speaker
It's a low three because I i forgot about. I was like, when is she she's like way better than Jack. But like I forgot. Yeah, she would be Probably. i don't know. her She's a surfer card. She's a surfer. Plus three.
00:14:17
Speaker
think you know what else? But the like surfer chameleon like gives you a whole nother surfer. Chameleon's a 3-3 that says do more surfer again. You can play Venus early. Venus is like do half a surfer. And that's that's not the that's not the rate. That's not the standard rate for getting surfer stuff. You don't play a 3-cost to do half a surfer.
00:14:39
Speaker
Can you play Chameleon on turn 3?
00:14:43
Speaker
no Can't. And then you can play your surfer Absman after Venus. You got better things to play on turn three. You can play a card that makes energy like a superior Spider-Man or a Hope. Or you can you know, drop a Captain Carter, start playing cards of actual substance, Maverick, you know, like these kinds of things. Like, you got better stuff to do on turn three than setting up half a surfer later. Like, it's, i don't know i don't see I worry she's slow.
00:15:10
Speaker
I do worry about that. But like I can also to me, I just I think that she would be way too good at two. So it's like, what is the right balance? If she's handing out plus twos, that's too good. Does she just need a bigger body? It's way too good.
00:15:23
Speaker
yeah Like the only way to to handle this? Awkward little three costs. yeah I wish we could do more than just buffing cards in small amounts with cards. Like, I'm so bored of it, to be honest. That's all they know how to do. Like, I like the... If it wasn't for the art in this card... i be i won't lie, I've been judging a lot of these.
00:15:41
Speaker
Whether I like them on the the general vibe of the art and character. But, like, I'm really... Right, like, Gwenpool was fun and exciting, and since then it's been a downhill slide of, like...
00:15:54
Speaker
but we have this. that I guess it's a little different, but they keep iterating every, I don't need know every corner of Marvel snap iterated out. So every possible iteration of a combination of a mechanic is compliant. I don't know. It's not fun.
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah. Well, they're coming out with so many cards. i mean, like this, This was a conversation outside of the recording, but um eight cards still feels like a lot, even though it's the fewest number of cards a season can possibly have anymore.
00:16:24
Speaker
It's still quite quite a lot. I was wrong. I thought there was something more to it, but they haven't been taking the care with all of the cards. I do think they've heard maybe some of it. They said! They always say they've heard our feedback, which is standard company. Like, oh, we heard Oh, yeah. Are going to something about it? We're always listening. We're listening. We heard you. But we're listening. Yes. We heard you say that. Anyway, so it's just they've heard we don't like their slot. But they're like, yeah, but that's what our AI generates for us. I don't think I gave her a number. I'm giving her a four. But it's not a Jeff four. Jeff is generically good. I think she has niche power. But there's so many cards buffing going around.
00:17:10
Speaker
I think there's a good chance there will be things that she that justifies her cost.
00:17:18
Speaker
I like the bishop idea. hadn't considered that. Yeah. It's pretty fun. do like when bishop makes sense to play. I kind of like it. I don't know if you it i just it's Bishops get pretty big in the right deck.
00:17:35
Speaker
I've played them in Irish on this stuff. They've been handy. right Same with Marvel boy, right? Like she's really good with Marvel boy, but they both cost three and that's awkward. very awkward And she needs to see the empowering happen. She can't show up after the fact.
00:17:53
Speaker
Yep. Oh, she is bad drawn late. You were talking about Jeff being bad. She is bad drawn late. yeah
Monstro Card Exploration
00:18:00
Speaker
these are sort of Almost the same card. it's I don't know.
00:18:04
Speaker
They got the same problems in my in my view.
00:18:09
Speaker
Yeah, but Jeff is cheaper and also doesn't require any kind of synergy, which is why I think... Yeah, Jeff's better. he's He's easier to to give the four to. ah Monstro, an 8-8.
00:18:21
Speaker
This card's cost is reduced by the top by the cost of your deck's top card. Lowercase c cost, so it will respect changes to costs that happen in your deck.
00:18:35
Speaker
ah I think this card stinks. i seen some people saying this card is crazy good. One of the best cards they've ever done. It's totally broken. Look at all the information it gives you. And it's like, why do we care about that information? If we did, people would play Howard.
00:18:50
Speaker
ah it's It's like, it's playable. Oh, like they think you should just sit with it in your hand, like the whole game to try and guess what the, like, oh, it's a two cost. So maybe I'm getting that Wilson. Probably not whole Well, you want you want to be saying, oh, it's a six cost. like that's what Well, yeah, but like with but if you're not playing it, then do you really care? If you're not playing it because you're using it for information.
00:19:15
Speaker
I'm and with you, right? If the information is so valuable, do you ever play him? that's just like I just think is he's a silly card. Then discard him at the end because you have a strong guy. Yeah, the two eight is like fine, but you have to have a six cost on the top of your deck.
00:19:31
Speaker
think about it the this isn't just meant to go in decks it's it's like in a in a ramp deck where you've got a lot of high cost cards it's maybe where you're like playing aries so you want this is a card that could be cheaper but has a high enough thing that will get you points for aries like is there an eight cost the hella know what i mean like that's the kind of thing i think you're doing you're doing you're doing ramp or you're doing you know you're doing shenanigans and i love shenanigans so i'm into this i mean like yeah i mean compar this card to howard but like how about lizard do we do we think that lizard needs to worry about this card because like this is gonna be a 2-8 pretty regularly and people play lizard because he's a 2-6 with a bad text box people don't play lizard
00:20:19
Speaker
I mean, they have been with techno-organic virus. Techno-organic virus. he a But techno-organic virus, his text isn't a downside.
00:20:31
Speaker
Yeah, but that's insane. That's why people play... Lizards always like only played with the expectation you're going to remove his text in some way, right? like No, he used to be just regular old good. um that's been a super long time. Before this, he was only played in Sauron, and now he's played also in Techno Organic Fetters.
00:20:54
Speaker
I like Monster when like maybe in Hela because then you're running death. You have another eight cost that doesn't conflict with your other cards and death makes you free. So like there's some synergy there. but Wait, is death nine? Death is nine now.
00:21:08
Speaker
Death used to be nine and is now eight. We've had this conversation. I'm sorry. I was listening to our preview episode when we were looking at the data mines of these cards and we had that. Yeah.
Innovative vs Traditional Card Mechanics
00:21:19
Speaker
o Well, anyway, ah I'm giving him a two. I was much too hard on the cards that are just big last season, like Wilson Fisk and, and daredevil. So I'm trying to account for that again in my heart. He's a one, but he's probably, he probably gets cheap enough often enough to be playable.
00:21:39
Speaker
ah just singing I was thinking it was a two. think he's bad. I think he'll be fine in some decks. I'll play him some decks. Whenever I get him way down the road.
00:21:51
Speaker
Well, I couldn't decide if I wanted to give this one a like ah two or a three. cause like I do kind of like this card, but like also a lot of it is like
00:22:03
Speaker
Man, they just, they hate Howard the Duck. why Why do they hate Howard the Duck so much? But like, just because this is better than Howard the Duck does not necessarily mean it's a good card.
00:22:15
Speaker
But also, it it's like, it's doing multiple things. Like, it is it is coming for both the Duck and the Lizard's job in the way I see it. It's it's like, it's weird that it's it's it's displacing...
00:22:27
Speaker
such different cards or are attempting to. i I mean, I don't know. I kind of think that like two-way probably is kind of good sometimes, especially if you're playing it in a deck that does have like a lot of big things. Wouldn't it be cool to get presence on the board? Maybe, maybe,
00:22:46
Speaker
you know, get out there, win whatever your stupid lane that you care about winning is for like, you know, your cards that care about winning a lane early. oh that's a good point. Like, isn't this comparable to other cards, but he he's an eight right away.
00:23:00
Speaker
You don't have to like wait for him to draw demons or whatever. And you get to play cards there afterwards. So like, I kind of think this card's a three, even though like, I do think it's a little like weird and,
00:23:13
Speaker
I'm not like excited to play it in any deck in particular and I'll probably skip it, but like, you know, and the eight costs that that's like novel for some things. Don't you want to, don't you want to make some big rocks with this card with like, uh, whatever the, yeah, you're suggesting mole man, monster.
00:23:31
Speaker
I'm not wrong. I don't know. Like, I don't, I don't love the, I'm i'm not giving it the highest three of the, you know, But yeah, i'd I'd say it's a three. I'll give it a three. Holy moly. All right.
00:23:47
Speaker
Rhi, the next one. right and Okay, that one's going to be Jubilee Silver Surfer. Which is a forecast to power card with the ability, when you draw a card, add this card's power to it.
00:24:04
Speaker
um Snore, snooze, we get Maverick's a card. ah He like enabled a whole bunch of gameplay. So remember how like people hated Gambit and then you're like, let's make Gambit Horseman of Death.
00:24:18
Speaker
that you can copy a million times. And it's just like, remember how we made Maverick? Here's here's a new version of Maverick. I'm like, so bored. Like, I dare you to excite me second dinner. I don't think you can do it anymore.
00:24:30
Speaker
anything
Jubilee Silver Surfer Analysis
00:24:31
Speaker
You know? who Okay. But, like, you know, it's a forecast, so maybe not is as good as as Maverick. ah Like...
00:24:48
Speaker
Three, I guess, because these cards have been good. Even though she's a four cost. Where are you guys putting her?
00:25:00
Speaker
Well... I think I'm also going to give her a three. I've had some ups and downs in my assessment of this card. ah Last night, before I went back and checked the datamines, of these cards got entirely reworked. Anywho... I miss Old Venus.
00:25:18
Speaker
Yeah, that's the one. What was Old Venus? Double the next ongoing card you play. That would have been such a cool card. It would have been probably like six different. Probably bad.
00:25:32
Speaker
But anywho, definitely more interesting than the version we got. But yeah, ah on on our previous episode when we were looking at the datamines, we were all quite high on Jubilee Silver Surfer. And I, I, this stuck out to me because I listened to that episode or that part of that episode after I'd already done my preliminary ratings. I was like, let me double check, make sure I didn't miss anything huge. And I was feeling pretty low on this card last night is the thing.
00:25:57
Speaker
And I still kind of am. I mean, like, it's, it's a, The thing is, when it goes well, it's going to go so well. Like, ooh, you go Surge into Jubilee on three. Ooh, baby. That's going to be pretty cool.
00:26:13
Speaker
But, like, here's another card to think about ah for context. America Chavez. She does plus three. and She doesn't require... She costs one. You can squeeze her any time. Like, at the beginning, in the middle of the game, like, she's just so... What a good card. um But this one Man, when this one works, it's gonna work. But it's, like, such a bother.
00:26:38
Speaker
But the problem, though, right, is that, like, when you're doing all that work to pay it off, with Maverick, you get to choose the card it's going on to. This, you're doing the work, and you don't know what card's gonna get It it almost makes me want to revise her down to a two, but it's just hard for me. It's like this has been such a like Maverick combined with show like all this nonsense has been so good. It's hard to say she won't be, but it's like she's she's no Maverick.
00:27:07
Speaker
I think that concern about where she's aiming is like it just it just limits what decks she works in. Right. Like if you want her to to not be super fiddly, you have to play her in like something like Surfer where any hits a good hit.
00:27:20
Speaker
ye Wait, this is more than one card though? So would you get this on both five and six? Yes, yes you would. Which is why the search version is awesome. Okay, then she's definitely a three. Alright, revise back up. I'm sorry for my terrible understanding of card text. As being a normie ah like standard gamer, I'm going to put the blame on this in Second Dinner as well.
00:27:42
Speaker
Okay. But like, I don't know, you need to like juice her up to be good because like otherwise she's like too bad America Chavez is. If you play her on four honestly with like nothing going on, you're giving two cards plus two power.
00:27:56
Speaker
And like, yeah, just too bad America Chavez. But it only takes an and, you know, I don't know. Suddenly I'm all a sudden like, maybe. Maybe.
00:28:08
Speaker
Well, she does like effectively like multiply things. if if you give if you give her the If you empower her, like it will pay off. And like there
Effectiveness of the Quicksand Card
00:28:17
Speaker
are a million ways to do it. A million more now with this season. yeah like I gonna leave don't think I can give it less than a three, even though I kind of hate this card.
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah. Right. Think about it. Someone's going to snap on turn three or turn four and you're going to stay cause you have a good hand and then going see them play a Jubilee x X power, whatever it is. And then you're going to, yeah, you got no idea what's going to happen. Oh my gosh. That's so frustrating. But yeah, she, she plugs in perfectly with the stick and the, the Maverick and all that crap. And you know, i she will count the captain Carter power if you put her in the back row and all that.
00:28:54
Speaker
Um, I, and you know, that's, with captain Carter, honestly, like maybe, maybe how it goes is a America Chavez on one. Maybe you skip to play captain Carter and then stick Jubilee behind her. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, maybe captain Carter received the America Chavez buff. Maybe you drew her partway through the the sequence of events. Um, anywho, like it can't be bad. Right. Even though i there are things I don't like about it.
00:29:22
Speaker
And also like, are we supposed to be playing Adam Warlock? I'm so tired of Adam Warlock, but I'm just like, should we be playing Crystal? Is this all about drawing more cards? Is there ah is there a world where we play this in negative so that we can Jane Foster out all our... you know Doesn't Jane Foster count as a draw? You draw the the zero costs? Absolutely. I'm just like, don't make... One of the cool things about Marvel Snap is that it's not a card draw fest. like That's not like what we do here. And in a lot of card games, it is like... well you gotta be drawing lots of cards now they're incentivizing it yep and this it's so nice that marvel snap is like you get the cards you get more or less you know like with with a few small exceptions but like i just wish yeah i don't know i don't like this card but i got to give it a three i mean a nico draw spell after jubilee is pretty good that's you know not gonna happen super often but yeah i'm kind of with you she is uh
00:30:21
Speaker
Her base stats aren't great and they can't be. These are like, this is the best she can be. If they made her cheaper, she'd be way too good. If they made her stronger, she'd be way too good. believe Or is regular Jubilee is still 4-1? Is she a 4-2 now? Yeah, I think she's a 4-1. 4-1 could work on this, but it would make it like super dead if you didn't get your engine going. It's still pretty bad if you play it as a four two um It ends up being like a 4-6, which is what like,
00:30:51
Speaker
I would say a slightly below curve. Um, if you're not doing anything, both don't get anything to help Jubilee be bigger. And also that nothing on the top of your deck is similarly dishonest to like, you're, You have to get one of the green lights at some point. right yeah and that's what She's like a 3 for me. i think there's a possibility she's a 4, but I'm calling her a 3 because of how expensive she is and how much work she takes. I've said it before, there are so many cards now that both want to be buffed and also hand out buffs.
00:31:27
Speaker
You could just play them all together and chain them into you know this like long chain of passing the buffs along
00:31:35
Speaker
Yeah, she's going to be good. She's going to feel really bad when she flops, but she's going to be good a lot. Good enough to play. Yeah, I think she's going to flop less often than she does the thing.
00:31:47
Speaker
Right. And guess when you when she flops, you you retreat. Retreat, yep. Nature of the game. The ah the cost is not very high. ah Ben? Ah, am i talking about quicksand?
00:32:03
Speaker
Yep. Quicksand. All right. This is an exciting one. I like this one. Quicksand is a two, four and non keyword ability. I love, I love it. The next time your opponent would start a turn with bonus energy, they don't get it.
00:32:21
Speaker
So that's, that's pretty cool. um You know, the Mobius M Mobius has long been there to, shut down the cost reductions and things, but what do you do about that raw extra energy off a hope summers or Psylocke or a Jenny kale, or dare I say sun Lord?
00:32:40
Speaker
Um, you know, I'm not sure how often I'll be playing this card. Cause I just would rather play cards that do things. Um, but I like that it's got an aggressive stat line and it does a thing that there needs to be in the game.
00:32:58
Speaker
And yeah, I'll give it a low three. that's i I don't have too many thoughts because I mean, this is a very plain, like this card tells you what it does and it just does the thing that it does. And you know, there will be games where that's great and there'll be games where that's nothing, but at least you do four. Yeah, this is a very simple card.
00:33:20
Speaker
just of so fat usually you and I are quite aligned and this this season is just not. um Quicksand i is like a one. it's is The two four
Strategic Card Play
00:33:29
Speaker
is pretty strong but not super strong.
00:33:31
Speaker
she i want to make two comparisons to her. One of them is Quicksilver before Wiccan, where he was like... and don't know if you've heard this story. I don't know if it's Ben Brode or somebody was talking about how early playtesters of Snap wanted mulligan, and giving them access to Quicksilver made them feel fine with that because now they can guarantee they draw the one.
00:33:57
Speaker
But they don't keep Quicksilver in their deck even though they have access to it because he's not good. And this feels like that to me. it's like It's a nice thing to have access to, but it's not good. disagree.
00:34:09
Speaker
Right? Okay, because it feels weak at first. Because I'm like, you stop you're stopping them one turn from their extra energy. move And it's not like synergizing with stuff in your deck. Because I was like, what? What are you doing like...
00:34:22
Speaker
ah yeah Like, you know, with the 2-4, which isn't so super anymore, right? Everything, 2-4 used to be like, oh my gosh. And now it's like, you know, yeah, nobody will- There's the Colleen Wings headline. Even Colleen's not even there. Oh, sad. Okay.
00:34:37
Speaker
Um... Yeah. So it's like that. And then it's like, I was like, what you play with like, like an old style Sarah where you drop a bunch of like two highest power twos you can get. That's no. um But then I realized, okay, though. Okay, it is a two four, though. But you're not just worrying about stopping this on turn on, you know, from one turn because it is the reality.
00:35:04
Speaker
it is the reality in new snaps. I've tried. I've tried several times. I'm like, I'm putting together deck that gives me no energy cheat and no cheaper cards in any way. And it is like, it's not that it's and not, it's like not doable, but it's becoming a game where quickly in any kind of deck, you're looking a lot of times looking for some way that's either going to make cards cheaper or that's going to give you extra energy to play those cards. Right. And I really clued in when, and it and like I said, I'd been seeing Mobius everywhere.
00:35:36
Speaker
People are like, no. like it's It's been that important to stop people from getting cards cheaper. And when Ben was talking about his surfer decks, he specifically called out Hope Summers and Superior Spider-Man as the ways he gets his energy. cheats There's you, so I'm like talking about you.
00:35:53
Speaker
um Like you're not here. Okay. And... ah But, like, right, because those are immune. No, they're also threes, right? So, like, you know, with Surfer. But it's, like, they're immune to Mobius-type stuff, right? It's the it's the safe energy.
00:36:11
Speaker
And that's the way. ah And there's so many ways to do that now. And that's what a lot of people are using, like I said, because there's so much Mobius. I've been stripping out all my all my make cards cheaper cards, even Surge from decks.
00:36:24
Speaker
And this card, this is the card you wait and you play. You play on you you snap them and you play it on turn five. Turn five, when they need it when they're getting their big start, when their their crescendo of energy is there so that on turn six they go like execute everything they've been building up to. this This is when you stop them from getting their 10 extra, whatever BS extra energy they were about to would have done that in Star-Lord meta. Mm-hmm.
00:36:53
Speaker
So I think it's important that this card exists. Star-Lord meta may come back not specifically with Star-Lord, but something like that. Right. This is a card you want. You should play the limited time game mode and get the release valve card, right? Like, me, this is a Gorgon. Like, Gorgon is fine, but he's taking up an entire slot in your deck. You're paying two energy grants. What do...
00:37:19
Speaker
I just, this is, this is, questions are better than answers. Why are you, like, why are you countering your opponent's threat of extra energy instead of, instead of doing something that works with more game time? Because that shuts down their entire, because then win. It's like, how can you go?
00:37:33
Speaker
It's like a Cosmo on the right lane on the right turn. Like, it's saying, like, you don't get all that extra energy. That's like, suddenly their numbers don't work out and they can't do their, their play. Like, their turn get it.
00:37:45
Speaker
I get it, but Cosmo and Mobius are both cards that can shut down entire matchups, and I just don't think Quicksand is going to do that often enough to beat to justify a spot in your deck.
00:37:57
Speaker
I think you snap them on turn five, because they know. They're like, hmm. I mean, Quicksand will be out, so you know especially when she's first out. But it's like, right, they're like, I hit this. They don't even know what hell I will rain upon them. And you're like, no, I don't know, because... That's the frustrating thing, right? When someone has like 15 energy and you're like, I have no idea what hell you will rain upon me. But like now to just like snap them and get that eight cubes after you're like, yeah, you can play like play play one of those cards. won the Eight cubes, you'll get you'll get four at the most because they'll retreat if you ruin their plan.
00:38:34
Speaker
Oh, yeah. that's Well, they already snapped because they had their big combo, right? We both snapped going into turn five, so we were already... Which is good. Oh, yeah, you're right. I've been playing so much Team Clash, I forgot how the game worked.
00:38:49
Speaker
I think okay she's closer to Stardust than Gorgon. No way! no way! don't think Gorgon is like...
00:39:01
Speaker
gorgon is Gorgon is rough. like i' I've tried to. Stardust works for three turns. And this works for the turn when it counts. You know what I mean? Oh my goodness.
00:39:17
Speaker
Okay, but look, look we aren't there times that you're out and it's a really hot, hot summer day and if a very tall lady...
00:39:28
Speaker
who looks kind of naked, made of sand, offered you a delicious-looking slushie while you were just, you know, you're dripping with sweat. Would you not would you not welcome such relief from such oppressive, oppressive sun energy? Coming down. Okay.
00:39:45
Speaker
Okay. I would probably be terrified. What are you rating her? Did you rate her, Ben? one? I was on the line between two and three. I think I gave her three.
00:40:00
Speaker
You did. It's not the highest three I've given out today.
00:40:06
Speaker
Rhi, did you? Did you distribute the number? I know. i
Submariner Card Analysis
00:40:09
Speaker
ah it For me, it also was in between a two and a three. i gave... Who did I give the two? Monstro? ah didn't i this Yeah, I'll go with Ben. Low three.
00:40:21
Speaker
three mine crazy This card is not nearly that good enough. You don't just have to like know the turn they're going to do the extra energy stuff. like You can play this one early.
00:40:32
Speaker
Your opponent might even forget about it. I don't even know what kind of VFX there are on the on the card. That's a good point. It's not the next turn. It's the next time they would get extra energy. They just fucking don't. that's something i think I think that's pretty important actually.
00:40:47
Speaker
Yeah. No, i that makes me like her a lot more. I'm still never playing this card. Not once. And I know i'm kind of an anti-tech person, so I'm biased, but also I just i just don't think this card is good.
00:40:58
Speaker
This card, I think, is extremely similar to Gorgon. Wow. Submariner. extra point of power. As far as I know, Submariner just is Namor, right? Like,
00:41:10
Speaker
Yeah. yeah like It's like King Penny Wilson fix where just two cards that are yeah the exact same character. Oh! I was also going to look that up. no I was like, right? Was I wrong? like Is there another character? It's Namor the Sub-Mariner. That's like his whole... so it's yeah it is ah It's goofy. It's very silly. As far as I know, it's not like an alternate universe Namor. This is just Namor. I wish they would fix their bad cards and instead of just finding, like, instead of just Lord of the Rings, sorry, creating new titles, you know, for characters. Oh, this one's not Gandalf. It's Mithrandir.
00:41:44
Speaker
yeah
00:41:47
Speaker
uh when this is empowered at a random one cost character to your hand with the same increase works if submariner is in your hand or in play i actually like this a lot i think out of all the cards it is the most unique one it introduces sort of its own deck one costs are weird as build arounds but kind of is a one cost build around um different from clea right clea wants you to buff her a lot so mariner wants you to buff him big and i think even if you only buff him once with a big old stick or something still means that you get to pass that buff on to a to a one cost that unless it's like uh ebony ma you're gonna be able to play it on the next turn i think he's pretty good uh i'm giving him a three
00:42:36
Speaker
I think it's a fort. I'm just going to go with it. Look at this. Because, like, right, people, I mean people, people being me and a few other people, I feel like safety has a soft spot for Maria Hill and stuff. um Who doesn't even give you, it it would like, the constant thought of, like, maybe would be better she just gave you a one cost. But it's like,
00:42:57
Speaker
Cards that generate one cost, because it's like you don't want to fill your deck with one cost when you're playing dinky decks unless you're balancing them. Because it's like, ugh, it's bad when you yeah have a handful of ones and you're like, I need both of the cards.
00:43:11
Speaker
So, uh, and this card, like, every one of those decks that does this would be like, yeah, yeah, i want this card instead. Because when you're playing one-cost cards, you're usually buffing them up. You know what i mean? There's usually a plan with them. So, like, this fits right in. So I think every deck that does that type of thing, um, that plays, you know, ah
00:43:34
Speaker
cards that give you cards especially especially specifically one cost cards uh i think this will kind of maybe feel like a must i don't know ah this could even be what this go with i don't know i'm not i'm not gonna don't bounce i'm gonna pretend like i know what if this could go and bounce if you had an if you like bounced him with forge or something like i'm trying to think like some way to buff him again But like I do just think there are a lot of decks that would be like, yeah, this would have to be one of the cards for what they're trying to do.
00:44:09
Speaker
What do you think, Ben? If we hit Submariner, if Submariner's on the the left side of your hand and you Mother Ascani Submariner, you're getting two... x yeah I mean, you you shouldn't have too many other cards in your hand when you do that. because like No. that's That's plus three cards to your hand. um But like... What, like 0-4, 0-4, and then two random ones that have plus two? Uh-huh.
00:44:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's how I figure it. Hmm. You know, I'm not saying that's like a good thing. I just think it's an interesting thing. um I like this card a lot. I'm not exactly sure what to do with it. That's exciting, though. me Yeah, and like I do think it's an exciting card. Like, oh, last month, I had to pick Stick as the card I was most excited about. A card that I still hate, even though I'm playing it like it's not a cool card to have around but like i just i hated all the cards last month so much but like wow i'm really excited about submariner and some of these other ones um not even to play just to like have in the environment um yeah i can't it's hard for me to separate my like for the you know my my fondness for the design and like just like the variety that it will introduce just the the novelty um
00:45:30
Speaker
I don't know how good it is for sure, but like, it feels like good clear to me, you know, that's, that's sort of my reading on it. Although i mean, they're, they're different because flames of the fault team is, it's a whole different thing.
00:45:43
Speaker
um Gosh, I guess I'll give it a three. Everything gets a three this season. Well, one of them's not going to there's one more non three that we're going to talk about.
00:45:57
Speaker
But yeah, I'll give this one a three. And I can't even tell if it's a low three or a high three. I'm quality blind on this one. You know?
Namorita Card Discussion
00:46:05
Speaker
Who knows? That's reasonable. it is It's so different. you You kind of have to see what it's going to do. It it can't just slot into existing decks. It is sort of one of the buffers who also buffs, or buffers who like to be buffed. sort of is.
00:46:19
Speaker
in like In disguise, he's kind of that. But... but then But then it's like the end of the line, right? he doesn't The card that he creates doesn't then pass that buff on further.
00:46:30
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe buffing him a lot is cool, too. Like, with a Black Swan deck zoo type thing and just get a pile of ones. don't know The thing that I don't like about him that has only just occurred to me now after I gave him a number is that, like,
00:46:48
Speaker
Every time you empower him, it doesn't like accumulate. so like You give him one power one time, you get a slightly bigger one cost than usual, but you give him one power again, and it's the same situation. You get a one cost with plus one power, and that's like not exciting because you do still have to play them all and stuff. I don't know. This might be closer to a two, but my feelings, give it give it a three.
00:47:11
Speaker
It's an exciting card. Okay.
00:47:16
Speaker
Rhi? Is it me? Do I have an... Oh, have an Amorita. Okay. ah When you draw a card... Oh, sorry. She says three cost, five power. When you draw a card, give it minus one cost if this is your only card here.
00:47:33
Speaker
um
00:47:36
Speaker
it at least feels like so is something slightly different. i like that... um Three costs so it's in the middle. i was thinking the problem with this card and with the Nomura is someone who's tried to play a lot of Nomura specifically leaning hard into the Nomura part and not like just as... Because usually you're right, you're pairing that with like White Tiger is what a lot of people do, other things. um ah But it's like it's very vulnerable, which it's like...
00:48:06
Speaker
to getting and this even more so it's just like a red guardian a ah ghost cosmic ghost rider even luna snow like there's so many ways for this to be disrupted by your opponent and so many people are holding cards that can and then will because ah you know and then it's like for you to turn spend your turn three on it It's like, it'll be really powerful when it happens, but it'll be really disruptive. And that's for me, that's why I don't like playing combo setup decks. Because it's like, you have to put all the pieces out there, and then you're just kind of hoping your opponents don't have ways to take it out. That's why i usually like to build more into, like, multi-tool decks instead of, like, all in on a combo. And that's kind of the problem I see with her. But like, um you know, mine and also like Mobius, right? Another one just so.
00:49:01
Speaker
ah
00:49:04
Speaker
But it's a card that gives you fewer enemies. I don't know. i feel like I have to give her a high too right? Like, I don't know. Maybe I'm too low. what you what did Where you did you guys put her?
00:49:16
Speaker
Well, uh, was inclined to give her a three. I kind of like this card. I gotta be honest. I love the vibe of the card. Like I'll play. Yeah, that's the thing Also, you know, there are these, you know, the similar cards, your, your name or your, your Orca,
00:49:34
Speaker
ah those are all cards that want you to finish the game with them as the only card in the lane. And I play a lot of Surfer, and all the time I have a lane where there's a three-cost card hanging out there until the end of the game, and then we're going to fill it in with Brood or whatever the fuck. You know, like, a Silver Surfer and Absorbing Man, they need somewhere to live in a lane that, like... the There are all kinds of times when i'm I'm just like, I would love to have a good three cost to play on three, just to put somewhere, camp it out, ah you know, do extra energy type thing. You know, it's it's a very superior Spider-Man kind of effect. You're getting one energy per turn. You know, it doesn't get too goofy on us. Is this another card that incentivizes us to draw a bunch of cards? I don't think so. Not in the way that Jubilee does. Oh, really? i think I think minus one cost is a better payoff than plus two power.
00:50:25
Speaker
Granted, you can move to play. No, we're not doing it for plus two power. That's for sure. um It depends on the deck, right? Minus one cost is a lot more influential on smart on small cards.
00:50:38
Speaker
But say if most cards in your deck cost two and three, or perhaps four, ah if if you got a lot of two threes and fours making things cost one cheaper really opens up your your your maths you know um it does a lot yeah so I like this card and I think I'm gonna play this card tbh although as I mentioned surfer can be really competitive and you can't play all the cards that are good because so many good cards and so many of them are synergistic with each other and like
00:51:14
Speaker
long to be friends like oh geez you know stick came out and i'm seeing a lot of people playing forge and stuff and i'm just like no i get it i get why you want to play forge here i just can't make room for forge because i got other stuff to do oh my gosh um it's it's not my weekend snap um but anywho yeah i like this card a lot i think i'm gonna give it a three giving out a lot of threes and this one is an affectionate three i like this card cool card Well, this one's very reasonable. i feel like I was a bit low.
00:51:46
Speaker
yeah But the Luna Snow thing you mentioned made me wonder for a second because i'm like, damn, people do like to play Luna Snow, don't they? Oh, their ability to interrupt you? Yeah, for sure.
00:51:56
Speaker
um She's between a two and a three for me. I think that it's actually very few decks that want her. Surfer feels like an obvious one. um
Evaluating the Triton Card
00:52:06
Speaker
She has just a big enough body to justify, you know,
00:52:10
Speaker
playing her i think like i think she's very i like the comparison to superior spider-man what's what's his body three four three four and and her condition is easier to meet on turn three um but she also feels a lot like fastos oh that's cruel you don't mean that Yeah, Fastos does 3-4 and buffs every card in your deck. Like, this is extremely similar, but only half of his buffs are minus one cost.
00:52:39
Speaker
She reliably gives you that. So, I think she she is significantly better, but she's still she still feels like enough Fastos to me that i'm that I'm suspicious that this is as good as it looks at first blush.
00:52:55
Speaker
so i like Like a low three. i think she I think she has homes where she's good enough to to say three.
00:53:05
Speaker
One more. Is it that time? Closing it out with Triton. Three energy, four power. On reveal, give the last character each player played last turn plus three power.
00:53:23
Speaker
um that's you know the symmetry of it is the most striking thing about the card but this is you know in in card games it's all about making the the symmetrical effects not so symmetrical and like you know favoring you more you can make you you know that the last card that you played was maverick but hopefully your opponent's last card was not maverick you know that kind of thing um but is it good enough even when like that goes well oh my gosh then I can just hear you saying like in your voice but would you play this card over like Shula or you like who out you know what mean you would never i mean like and sure you can you can say oh my opponent's last played card was in this lane that I'm gonna throw anyway so it doesn't matter that I'm giving them plus three powers like there are all kinds of ways you can like
00:54:21
Speaker
basically sort of try to negate the the symmetry or you know work around. But like the thing it gives you, the only like the cool novel thing about it is that it's the last card played, like Sholao is. But like you know like you can play Maverick and then play this and boost your Maverick, who can then throw it forwards to like something. And like that's that's a little bit novel, and that that is cool, and that's valuable. Like it would be interesting if stick worked that way. Um, but honestly stick working the way stick works is fine. And moving it forward is, I think generally, especially for a three costs, like that's the way you would want to do it. I think, well, probably, um yeah, I just don't think this card, I, I see why they thought this might be a card, but like, I don't think it's a card, you know?
00:55:19
Speaker
um Yeah, I think I'm going to give it a 2.
00:55:24
Speaker
I didn't give anything a 1. I'm around there. He's like a 1 to 2 for me. It isn't that hard to make him asymmetrical once, but if you do make him asymmetrical once, he's a 3-7, right? Like, you have to you have to really...
00:55:39
Speaker
try to amplify that. So like it's putting it on Maverick and then having Maverick put it on stick and then having stick put it on something else. And now it's a three 11 or three 10. Yeah.
00:55:52
Speaker
yeah He just seems bad. i think he's interesting as a way to fight enemy cerebro, but like you don't want this card just to do that. Yeah. um The one thing I do want to point out that makes his makes it easier to break parity with him is it's specifically the last character played on the last turn.
00:56:11
Speaker
So if your opponent didn't play a character last turn, that's it. You brought you like you got your 3-7. That'll teach them to play infinite, honestly. yeah Oh, come on. People skip turn two all the time. Yeah, they do.
00:56:28
Speaker
But... Is a 3-7 worth that? like you know He's just not big enough. I want him to be three five plus 4.
00:56:40
Speaker
Yeah. like I'd still have some questions. Make him more interesting. Come on. Also, that Cerebro player is probably just going to play Valk last turn and fix it all and ruin all your hard work anyway.
00:56:53
Speaker
Maybe. How dare they? ah i'm I'm giving this guy a... I don't know. two. Like, he's playable, but he's bad. It's a low two. You think so It's a one for me. Because, like, most of the cards I think that I would want to buff that I played, like, it's like you are thinking of Maverick. But you know what happens is you played Maverick on turn three.
00:57:16
Speaker
So then it's turn four, and you can play a four-cost card that buffs cards that's way better than this card. And like, I don't, I just, there's so many cards now that buff cards out of all the cards that buff your own cards. Why would you ever give any of that out?
00:57:35
Speaker
Uh, cause I guess that's the selfish society we live in. And card games for sure. Yes, you should be. So like, I just, you know, it's like, when would when would I choose to play this card over literally, when is it so important that you played that you buff your last card that you played by three that you wouldn't be trying to do that in some other way that wasn't ridiculous he's your backup plan right in in a in a maverick carter deck he's your backup plan you don't want him to be the one you play but like he does let you spread more power around it happens to the cards that like you don't want to be the card that you play they get replaced really fast with, like, a counter card against the meta. Because, the like, you put him like, oh, he's the backup. But then as soon as you're like, oh, I really wish I could fit, like, Mobius in this deck because of all these decks I'm running against, boom, out he goes for, like, something that will be useful, something that you want to play. Like, cards that I...
00:58:34
Speaker
I was working on a a deck and there i figure there's a card that just kept being, it was Rocket, Raccoon, and Groot. And I had been excited because I wanted a mover. And and I kept being like, but he just kept he kept not feeling like the good. And it's like after the the fourth time, he just sat in my hand despite like having to just play other cards. I'm like, does he go? Does he go in this deck?
00:58:55
Speaker
and i don't care that he'd be good in some situations. I just played four games in which he was in my hand but was never the right thing to play. Yeah. And a lot of it actually was because I didn't have Pryor, which is always something you have to think about when you're putting Rocket Recruiting in a Pryor. I kind of thought I did, but I overestimated i ah underestimated the amount of power creep that has taken place in the game over my preferred cards.
00:59:19
Speaker
ah So that's what I think about trying to do. Okay, tell me which one you're most excited about. What's that, Ben? Oh, I was saying I might have been talked down to a one. on tri I don't know. I think I'll stay at two. But like, gosh, what a i I just don't think he's ever making it into the first 12 cards, let alone like surviving a revision.
00:59:40
Speaker
i think if you're not in the top 12 of any deck, I think that's a one. Yeah, I think this card's a stinker. I mean, I'm sure they'll buff it or something, right? I don't know. It's a limited time event card. They let those be bad sometimes.
00:59:55
Speaker
I'm like, I'm trying to temper how much I hate this card. I'm like, somebody can do something with it. It's a two, but you're right. It's a one. This is a bad card. is a very niche situation where you would play this card over something else.
01:00:08
Speaker
um And you can easily get yourself out of that situation by playing something better. All the other cards I gave twos to are better than this card. So yeah, I don't know.
01:00:21
Speaker
I like quicksand better than this card and I hate quicksand. ah Okay. Tell me which one you're most excited about, Rhi. I'm excited. for,
Card Game Design Critique
01:00:28
Speaker
I'm going to say Monstro, because it's like it's wacky, right? I like when people are like, you know, it's not just like, oh yeah, it's another card that does this, so it goes with the, you know, it's like, here's another buff card, here's another, you know, it's like, this is like, okay, kind of what are we doing here? And I think I would have said Submariner, but I think everyone will be playing him, because it feels like just too fun and good, and I get, if I if i have to play a bunch of Mirrors,
01:00:55
Speaker
I love how much you you judge your excitement based on hipsterism. i don't think he's going to be super popular. I hate playing no not mine That's why I picked Monstro. You don't think Submariner? I think Submariner is going to be niche.
01:01:08
Speaker
You think he's going to be niche? Okay, then it's Submariner. I think he's a hipster card. You think Submariner is a hipster card? Yeah. know how much I see Ascani-sun being played?
01:01:23
Speaker
You're saying you see a lot of Ascani Sun? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. i see so ano This is a better card than that, don't you think? Doesn't this feel like a much better card? Sure.
01:01:34
Speaker
Maybe not. I i think that like getting slightly larger than usual one costs is... I don't know. like You have to like be doing something that gives him big buffs for it to like feel worth it. Because like if you're getting a handful of one costs that have plus one or two powered, like, you're going to play him and profit? I mean, I don't know. i don't Okay, it just now my this is now the one I'm looking most because you guys are down on him. So I'm like, all right, I'm into this. Like, maybe no one will play him and I'll be doing some fun. like yeah It seems like he'll be good and very situated in certain situations. And surprising. they don't know They don't know what you got in your hand that got buffed.
01:02:17
Speaker
Hopefully an ego. all true. Do we think that... um Will Gwenpool... Does she check between buff givings? She would be three plus twos.
01:02:29
Speaker
But like... After the first plus two, yeah you've made a card. Can that card then get hit by Gwenpool? Or is it... I think she probably picks ahead From the cards that were there at the start of the effect.
01:02:43
Speaker
Doesn't Corvus Glaive do that? That's how Hela works out of Discard. Yeah. Corvus has to have two cards already. He can't hit Apocalypse twice. Yeah. So I would imagine Grunpol probably has the same type of logic. Grunpol picks ahead of time.
01:02:59
Speaker
Um. But but no. Uh, Namor's new Namor Submariner is not gonna be my card. I'm picking Namorita. You and me, buddy. We're gonna take over the ocean. Okay. You know, she was in Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
01:03:15
Speaker
Um. And because of that, know that she's Namor's cousin. Yep. Also, believe Triton was too. I think he was a little mini boss. I think maybe you fight him at the same time as Tiger Shark. Oh, they're bad guys. You don't get to play as them, said.
01:03:30
Speaker
Yeah, well, Namorita is a good gal, but um you don't get to play as her either because, ah you know. They i they like sort of like disappeared the character and like kind of replaced her with Nomura, I think. That's sort of my understanding of of the the history.
01:03:49
Speaker
that That's like that's like what I read on Wikipedia or whatever. I don't know. um They're not the same person, but they think comics fans only have room for one of them in their heads or something.
01:04:04
Speaker
Anywho, I'm excited for Namorita. It's a cool card. I like three fives
01:04:11
Speaker
So... Well, you learn. some Well, I do want... Something that I... we were We were talking about Submariner, and I realized something that we didn't talk about. ah We might have talked about it in the last episode. Ben would know. ah They changed a bunch of cards recently that do multiple buffs.
01:04:27
Speaker
Right? They didn't change Gwenpool, but they changed, like, Kahori and Cassandra Nova, who used to give out tons of ones, and now they... Now, like, if Kahori hits a card four times, it's a single plus four. That was very obviously because of Venus...
01:04:39
Speaker
But it also helps Submariner. Like, if you hit Submariner with Kohori, that could be a decent sized wants a big, chonky buff. That's what I was thinking with Triton. I'm like, I'd rather play Kohori than Triton.
01:04:56
Speaker
Kohori's a four. um That's what I'm saying, right? That's wild. You're probably not playing Triton on turn three, right? What two thing do you really want to buff that much?
01:05:09
Speaker
i good point lasher
01:05:16
Speaker
I'm like you don't synergize like you would not put this in a lasher deck would you i mean I feel like else does it go like last like curve like if if you're playing everything okay Triton wants to hang with lasher but does lasher want to hang with Triton like in the overall deck like set up for lasher I'm most excited for Submariner, which says a lot more about how I feel about the other cards than it does how I feel about Submariner. He is the most exciting, but I don't think he's especially exciting.
01:05:49
Speaker
This is kind of a this is just a whatever season. These cards don't do cool things. They mostly do more of things that we've already seen. Yeah.
01:05:59
Speaker
like They're playable, and I'll have fun with them, with some of them. um But and nothing here feels very novel except for Submariner. You have to wonder, are the devs like having fun playing their own game? like You know what I mean?
01:06:15
Speaker
are these cards coming from? like Are they having fun with these? I do think Submariner sounds fun, but it's just like... i don't These cards feel like ran like... It's like, here's things we did. like it's just like...
01:06:28
Speaker
yeah It's like people who have, like... played Marvel Snap or heard of it. And they're just, it's like when you ask AI to do it and she's just like, here's things and they're combined, but like as a human playing, right? And it's like, as much as there was so much controversy, ah like when you can't, you know, and, ah and, and these cards get big cards like Galactus it's right. This game came out with cards that excited people who like they would have this ad, like, look, play this game. You can like blow up half the game. And I used to explain people that never looked at this game. Are you going to show? are you going to show? like handing out a bunch of ones? were you going to show some of these cards, right? to people not playing. It's like, oh, well, you see, just you know, it's like this card. And it's not, it's not, it's you're,
01:07:22
Speaker
You're losing your glitter, girl. Like, I know a lot of people think the game is fine, but it's like, it's fine in the sense that like, games to decline. But card games don't have to. Because card games have players playing against each other. Because it's It's only limited by the the intelligence of the players in a good game is is what I think. and And when they come out with cards like this, and I've said this before, Snap did an amazing job of enticing, right? There were people like us who had played card games. We played a lot. I've played a lot. I have graveyards of dead card games in my basement. Oh, yeah. like My basement is graveyard of all kinds of things, except for living things, just inorganic things. Don't worry about it. Maybe some bugs. Okay. But like...
01:08:07
Speaker
You know, but but it's like this they so used to pull this used to pull people who had never – who it's like, oh, magic maybe seemed like too much. You know, they weren't into that or it seemed like too much or, you know, look at all those keywords or you're just like, i don't want invest to learn. Yeah. And they played Snap and it would pull people in and they would have these cards that like were easy to understand. I didn't have to be like, okay, empowered though means like I didn't confuse that because the text was just plain, right? And I'm someone who like rules lawyers. Like I'm one of the people, like we enjoy, like me and...
01:08:46
Speaker
my friends who've played so many board games that were such nerds, we like to, like, we're playing a rule book that's, like, not well written, you know? then we're like, okay, but, like, in board games, the specific syntax should mean it works like this because we've played so many rules we like, like,
01:09:01
Speaker
Rules layering. Okay, we're the worst. but like you know But there's that, right? But this game didn't have that, right? it appealed It appealed to the masses and it appealed to card gamers. It took the things that were frustrating to card gamers and stripped those out. And card gamers were like, yeah. And people who had never played card games were like, oh, well this looks fun then. it's not. all...
01:09:23
Speaker
and it's not it's all it's all Like you shouldn't like this was wrong. Go back. Like you can change. Go back. Put out five cards a month that really like excite people that you can advertise that like someone would look at and it would seem exciting. Not like a text that like someone who's never played this game would fall asleep halfway through reading. Okay, I'm sorry. I've ranted so long, but it's like I want it's like that. It's like when you see your friend and and she's like she's, you know, it's like, no, girl.
01:09:58
Speaker
You can do it. Like, do do better. Like, don't let yourself go. I don't know. Okay, so i understand they have to have some slop cards. They don't. I don't know if they have to but like I get that there's some things where you are going to just have to have cards that do mechanics, right? Like Sure. But like once or twice, let's say more than once, let's say twice a season, give me a card that does something new instead of just doing things I can already do in a very slightly different way.
01:10:30
Speaker
I mean, I should give some credit to Monstro for that, I guess. Also, you know what? I'm taking my my pick back. It's not Neymarita anymore. It's, what's her name? It's Quicksand.
01:10:42
Speaker
It's Quicksand. It's gotta be Quicksand. That's a new effect. I'm very excited about it
01:10:47
Speaker
Yeah, we've been waiting for that. I've been expecting them to put out... Honestly, this is less than I thought it would be. thought they would go heavier. Scarlet would have helped a lot Star-Lord meta. Yeah.
01:10:59
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:02
Speaker
I can't believe you, Ben. You're doing it just to spite me, I swear. Okay, Rhi, how was your week in Snap? And keep it snappy.
01:11:15
Speaker
Okay, so ah this week was kind of a misery of a grinding Team Clash. and we don't even dislike Clash. I enjoy the ease of like, have the decks just go in and from this list. I like playing it as a kind of craft your own.
01:11:34
Speaker
um Avengers team or whatever mode. But like the missions are too much. It's like, it's asking, I feel like too much of you. Cause it's, I have had limited time to place an app and I, I've not even gotten through all of my team clash missions all of the time.
01:11:53
Speaker
ah and that's a bummer. And you know, you have to, it's, as you were saying before, it's good that they force a variety, by ah you know, on the flip side, then you're also, it's like, what if you don't want to play the Spider-Verse deck six times in a row?
01:12:09
Speaker
um So I will say, ah was i did get a chance to start like noodling with, that's what I wanted to do. I had these two new decks I was playing around with, but I didn't feel like I'd spent enough time with them yet.
01:12:23
Speaker
Maybe I'll share one in Discord or something, because one is ah just a reworking of an old um deck But it's like i couldn't you know it's like, I need to get stick. I don't i still don't have stick yet. I still need to play
Improving Player Retention Through Social Interaction
01:12:34
Speaker
my chip clutch. And um i was thinking, you know as much as I was was ranting ah earlier, um you know something they could do um to help retention, especially you know regardless of not or whether they're going to be able to continue um to entice
01:12:55
Speaker
non-card gamers in the way they used to They can still bring in card gamers who are used to all of this kind of fluffing games. And, uh...
01:13:06
Speaker
you know they can retain they can retain their number better if they work on giving us more that we can do with our friends. i think they need to focus on for the retention of the game. Because some of the highlight, when I think about my Weekend Snap, it was like, oh, I ran into Lauren, like, you know, which rarely happens. It's like, I don't know if the game's so tricky. I've never run into people I, like, know, French. I ran into Lauren. I ran into Iron Cloak. I ran into forest baits. It was just like, I was like, oh, these are names. I did not omute you.
01:13:42
Speaker
Normally everyone gets an auto mute. And I was like, oh, insane. You emoted me. no, that's what I emote. Sometimes it's slow because I'm like, okay, wait. I emote so very. Yeah.
01:13:53
Speaker
um You know, so, and it's like, but it would be fun. Like, if me and Lauren played all the time, we would have fun emoting each other. That would be a fun thing. I was like, that's what i was thinking. I'm like, I wouldn't turn off emotes and emotes if I was only playing with Ironcloak and Lauren. Like, people I would have fun with. And I get that, like, it's like, okay, like, how do they, they can't just, like, silo, like,
01:14:18
Speaker
friend groups when you're playing ranked and stuff like that because of win trading and certainly stuff like that. But they need to think of new ways ah to let people play with their friends because that's what retains people. That was like something i really enjoyed getting to. And it's so rare. It's so rare. At least it used to be that I would run into a name that I recognized. And um I think like, honestly, like,
01:14:46
Speaker
That's what will keep people in a game. If you look at MMO retention, if you look at workplace retention, I had place that, you know, like most workplaces, treated all of us like shit. You know mean? But we were like, we were like, not like a family unit, but like, you know, we were really tight.
01:15:03
Speaker
as co-workers and that kept us at this place that didn't deserve us for far longer you know than any of us should have been there and that's it's like if you're not gonna do a great job with designing all your cards and balancing your game and i'm sorry i'm laying this heavy-handed i know but you know it's it's for narrative purposes they're they're doing some things all right And ah if you're going to do like all of this stuff, then you know let us let us be miserable in it together. I know, we're still enjoying the game, but it's like, let us interact with our friends. The only the ways that the Snap community interacts with each other is entirely outside of the game. And that getting bad hurts...
01:15:49
Speaker
hurts the game too, right? Like, a lot of people left a lot of social media sites, you know, over the past few years for like, a lot of reasons. And it's just, like, you can't... It's, like...
01:16:01
Speaker
You know, you need to like build that community in your game. You need to let people play with, against their friends. We don't have the time for that. We don't even have the time for our own community organized stuff because we're all grinding our team class missions. And that's all of the discourse outside of it is complaining about the team class
Social Media's Impact on Gaming Perception
01:16:20
Speaker
missions. And, you know, if I go to Reddit and i it's like, you know, everyone in the comments is always like, Reddit miserable. Yeah, yeah, we get it. And then everyone just talks about Reddit is miserable for a while. but but you know But you'll see a comment where someone be like, yeah, whenever new players come would come to check out this game, they're just going to see how much people hate it. areset You know? Because it's like they just there's not ways to be happy together in the game or yeah outside the game. Anyway, okay. I'm done. The whole point was just to be like let build modes that let us, you know,
01:16:55
Speaker
stuff with their friends. I think that would be a great positive. um Yeah.
Enhancing Gaming Experience with New Features
01:17:01
Speaker
I think like there's tons of little features they could add to make alliances more interactive, right? But then also, i know way back in the paper play test, they were testing 2v2 with five locations, and I have no idea how that works. I have no idea how Snap needs to change, but that would be so fun to get on for a night with a friend and queue into 2v2 ladder.
01:17:24
Speaker
That would be a blast. I would love that. Yeah, be cool.
01:17:30
Speaker
Yeah. I know it's not my turn, but I'm just going to skip my weekend and snap because I also just wanted to vent about Team Clash and how aggressive those missions are. and like yeah The combination of missions and tickets is just a mess.
01:17:44
Speaker
it's It's too heavy-handed. And I don't even... like They should have tried it. Try and see what happens if you don't force diversity. They don't force diversity in Grand Arena, and it's fine.
01:17:57
Speaker
yeah o More or less, yeah. Ben, how was yours?
Stick Card Excitement and Strategy
01:18:03
Speaker
My, we can snap endeavoring to keep it extra snappy with a three-minute timer starting now. Okay, well, you know, that Team Clash stuff, that all sounds awful, y'all. It sounds really terrible. I don't know, because I paid the 800 gold or whatever it is, and got stick, and played games with stick.
01:18:23
Speaker
um I don't know about that card, y'all. i wouldn't I wouldn't have done it if I were them. In fact, I think... Ben, I'm so sorry. i like don't I don't have Stick yet, and I kind of forgot. I've just been striving for Stick so long, I forgot what he actually does. Could you please remind me? and maybe some listeners who also forgot. Oh, okay.
01:18:43
Speaker
Stick costs four, has three natural power if you haven't done anything to him. And on reveal, the next card you play gets ah power equal to this card's power. you know And notably, it's at the time that the empowerment happens. So, like, agony works.
01:19:01
Speaker
Which is not what I expected. Anywho, um where was I? Yeah, so I was playing with Stick and stuff. i actually had a cool new surfer deck, or a cool surfer deck. I don't know how new the, the individual parts were before stick came out. What I was playing was a deck called let's surf again, which was a America Chavez, Serge Merlin, brood, captain Carter, Maverick, uh, silver surfer, superior Spider-Man, Cosmo hope summers, absorbing man and juggernaut.
01:19:30
Speaker
So I was extra energy there. Uh, I was playing both superior Spider-Man and hope summers and that was cool. Um, but I had to, you know, cook up a, a dang stick deck after that.
01:19:43
Speaker
um And i I usually start from the ground up, but actually I just sort of retooled that deck. So I had to like dig out a screenshot. Oh my gosh. And now my phone's not going to show me what's in the new one.
01:19:55
Speaker
How frustrating, but I'll tell you about it. um Well, what is there to tell about it? It's got stick in it. He's real good. Also in the YouTube comments, somebody, ah Sean Swearingen.
01:20:09
Speaker
I wonder if they're related to a John Swearingen I knew once. Anywho. Point is, they were they were asking what but how I would stick stick in the homework server for a deck that I've been talking about in recent weeks. And their idea was Absorbing Man. And I was like, yeah, that's a good idea. But here's the thing. I've been playing Absorbing Man and Stick together, and they're pretty cool. Absorbing Man is a pretty cool ah Stick follow-up. He's already naturally larger than Stick.
01:20:37
Speaker
It's pretty fun. you know And with Mother Ascani, you can make one of them... you know Anyway, point is, okay, I've pulled up the deck. It's America Chavez, Surge, Merlin, Brood, Captain Carter, Maverick, Silver Surfer, Cosmo, Hope Summer's Stick, Mother Ascani, and Absorbing Man. So no room for Juggernaut in that one. But wow, Merlin is getting a lot of value these days. A lot of people are playing Magic, and I love it when people are playing Magic because you just win. You just win like all the time. All the time.
01:21:07
Speaker
If people are playing Magic, play Merlin. It's great. All right, that was my weekend snap.
01:21:15
Speaker
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01:21:44
Speaker
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01:22:08
Speaker
Okay. If you like, we can, I can, with assistance, pontificate. What? Yes. I have a quick thing that forgot
Positive Gaming Interactions
01:22:19
Speaker
to mention. Okay. So during the intermission, my co-hosts know this, but the listeners do not.
01:22:22
Speaker
I purchased a variant. It was the Brett Bean, Captain Carter, and that got me to three out of 12 in the Bean There Done That collection or whatever it's called, you know, one of the one of the dang Albies. And yo, yo, yo, yo. Here's what I got for that. I got an emote that I will actually probably use. it's What? It's handing over a credit.
01:22:43
Speaker
Because it's a positive emote. I'm like, I could actually use this one because it's not a shitty little ah way to be a, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of emotions they have not captured with emotes yet, and we just keep getting repeats.
01:23:00
Speaker
but like I like this one. like This one's like, I gotta give it up, you know? It's cool. And unlike the thumbs up things that you could possibly mean sincerely, like this one is like definitely sincere. like Nobody's gonna do this one sarcastically, I don't think.
01:23:17
Speaker
i will I didn't understand it at first. I don't understand it either. I thought it was an insult. Like, I thought it was like, pay to win.
01:23:28
Speaker
Like you're saying pay to win? use it like that but like I like people have interpreted it as the Futurama take my money That's what it is. Oh, is that it? Yeah. Isn't it? Most of them are based off of memes.
01:23:42
Speaker
That's what I thought it was. That's probably true. I thought it was just a way to be nice and say your opponent did a nice play. When I played World Warcraft, people bought high-level accounts, people would call
Muting and Handling Negativity
01:23:54
Speaker
them eBay. So I almost thought it was kind of in that vein, to be honest. It probably is. Maybe I'm just living in the world I want to live in.
01:24:02
Speaker
Maybe I shouldn't use this emote. I don't know. jerk there are people out there in this happily mismarveling, thinking it means good game, because they're just not even like they don't they don't care about anything outside the game Yeah, I think I can usually tell when those people are doing that.
01:24:21
Speaker
Honestly, do your part to only emote in good faith and to assume that your opponent is also doing that. Or just unmute everyone. or just autoute Everyone. Sometimes a turn happens and I'm like, I know they're spamming something. When somebody's spamming, I'm like, wow, you are petty and ridiculous and that's embarrassing for you. Would I like more? Because like, okay, if I'm out, if I'm out on the like road and like, like today I'm going into the store and I hate being like yelled at by strangers. That happened to me a lot. It happened in college. There's like, it was just common. You would get like,
01:25:00
Speaker
cat called if you're like walking out um by yourself. And now it's just like, it's usually people trying to sell you stuff or whatever. um Right. So to me, actually, this set there is an an immense satisfaction. I'm trying to just give a different perspective because i I feel like people get really riled up on one side of the other about like, should...
01:25:21
Speaker
auto-immuting auto auto muting be allowed should people be forced to do emotes and why can't you just have fun or why can't you just like not take it so it's like really it's like it doesn't matter just like like however people in play game whatever have to meet people it's fine like that people don't yeah it's fine you convinced me that i used to think that there shouldn't be muting at all and you convinced me that yeah it should just be whatever whatever let's keep it up to the player Right.
01:25:46
Speaker
I get immense satisfaction when I get a turn. I'm like, oh, this person, because I get, i have been yelled at, like, a lot in real life by people I don't know. It's just, there's something. about So, like, denying someone the ability to to do that to me and knowing they're raging, and it's like, I don't even know that. I don't even have to worry about, like, about, like, being a more secure emotional person. I don't have to be like, I need to be stronger to play my game. i need to work on my emotional resilience to play the game I want to play in my downtime. Instead, just being like, they they could have been raging and raging and raging, and it affected me not at all. I didn't see it. It's like you see those troll comments and people are like, don't feed the trolls.
01:26:28
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I didn't even see the trolls. And that like is satisfying for me And it's sad. I wish there was a world where instead it could just be fun emotes. But like that's not that's not even what they encourage in the game. So I just I just do what I do to try and enjoy the game as much as I
Emotional Resilience and Negativity Management
01:26:45
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can.
01:26:45
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no I really admire how much you protect your heart that way. I should be much more heavy handed with the blocks on social media. I think so. Yeah. But I just, I don't know.
01:26:56
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Give everybody good faith until they prove. I assume everybody is engaging in good faith until they prove otherwise. I have immense respect for people with actual emotional resilience.
01:27:08
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And there are people that do, and it's really impressive. And they're good at brushing it off. And it's not that they're never effective. They're good at overcoming and focusing on the meaningful and important and good interactions instead of the few bad ones. But I think a lot of people who think they're emotionally resilient, or yell at other people for not being emotionally resilient, usually in different words than the terms emotionally resilient, yeah are not themselves emotionally resilient. They're someone who takes all of that in and then uses it to push more out, right? And they think, and then they just want to increase that cycle and they don't understand why they hate themselves and their lives.
01:27:45
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Absolutely true. All right. Anyway. This was Wisdom Corner.
01:27:51
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Catch you next time.