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- 0:00:00 Our Week in Snap
- 0:29:45 Datamined Cards
- 0:30:20 Thanos Fractured Frontier
- 0:41:09 Jane Foster Fractured Frontier
- 0:45:06 Psylocke Fractured Frontier
- 0:47:03 Doctor Octopus Fractured Frontier
- 0:50:48 Red Wolf Fractured Frontier
- 0:55:11 Death Fractured Frontier
- 0:56:50 Hellcow Fractured Frontier
- 0:59:12 Red Hulk Fractured Frontier
- 1:07:40 Next Week's Secret Homework: Dungeon Crawler Carl
- 1:09:33 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Ben's Experience with Marvel Snap
00:00:01
Speaker
Ben you're up first this week uh for you ready snap yeah I played some snap I uh you can talk about other things yeah I've just been busy and all that I get it me too I finally finally I guess this is weekend snap I can I can talk about keep it snappy hmm perhaps I should set a timer it's okay if you don't
00:00:30
Speaker
All right. I'm ready. was born ready. Let's hear it. Ben, how was your week in Snap? My week in Snap? Endeavoring to keep it snappy as I literally always do. i'm going to use the five minute timer this time, though I'm not even sure how i'm going to fill these five minutes. Didn't play all that much Snap this week. You some weeks are snappier than others. um But what Snap I did play was pretty pretty enjoyable. the most recent game of Snap, I...
00:01:00
Speaker
I played my Sanctum Showdown deck by accident because I really put off the latest patch until it made me do the patch. And that was just this afternoon.
00:01:10
Speaker
So I did the dang patch. um And it you know, it always changed the deck. It changes the deck you've got selected. And in my case, it always changes it back to the Sanctum Showdown deck. So I played that on the ladder right before we recorded. One four cubes with it.
00:01:29
Speaker
J1? Yeah, yeah. um Awesome. You know, things weren't going great for the other player, it seemed like. ah they were They were playing like Phantom X. And, you know, I'm sure that's fine when it goes right. But it wasn't going that right. And Ezekiel Sims was bouncing around. and They even got off a Shadow King on a show loud up Kitty Pryde.
00:01:56
Speaker
And like, things weren't going that badly for them, I guess. Point is, it was a very exciting dynamic game of snap between two decks that were sort of working about as well as could be hoped for. But also like, I don't, I don't know how much hope there was for, I don't know.
00:02:12
Speaker
It wasn't exactly a comedy of
Ben's Reflections and Critique of Mugenics
00:02:14
Speaker
errors. It was just, two silly decks doing fine um anywho other than that uh i've been playing mostly ah familiar lists that i've already talked about on the podcast no new decks this week um before i finally patched the game um i don't know if like things were if if the meta felt softer because I was not yet patched and maybe people who don't patch are less serious or something, or maybe it was because people were trying to play the Submariner.
00:02:51
Speaker
was seeing a lot of Submariner and I'm not, I'm not, I don't know. Maybe, maybe those decks are great, but they didn't seem great to me, I guess is, I don't know.
00:03:03
Speaker
I, I would, I would love to, to hear how other people feel about the, the Submariner. um And all that. But not not during my precious five minutes, which are halfway up.
00:03:16
Speaker
Wow, I haven't said very much. Well, there wasn't much to say. I was mostly talking about one match that happened this afternoon with a deck that I didn't need to make. It thrilling story. Was it thrilling? I don't know. I don't know if it was thrilling. It was a mildly thrilling story.
00:03:31
Speaker
It was a story. um Other stuff that would be of interest to our listeners. ah well I'm going to be moving soon and I'm really hoping to be all done with Mugenics are those things related?
00:03:53
Speaker
yes I would just like to turn the page a new chapter on life oh no more Mugenics pretty much that's that's just how I'm thinking about it I mean like I'm still not sure I would like recommend like I don't know it's There's a lot of game going on there, and it's it's you know kind of up my alley, but also like I disagree with some of the decisions, and I think that maybe they should have been ah they they shouldve had more organizational tools for you to keep track of all these goddamn cats. It like it really does...
00:04:31
Speaker
it becomes, it, it, it snowballs out of control. And like, there's a lot of admin. There's so much admin, just an unbelievable amount of admin.
00:04:42
Speaker
If, you're if you're managing your house of cats with any sort of care or thought and like, is the admin part fun for certain types of people?
00:04:53
Speaker
Kind of. Okay. Like I, I that type of people, but I'm like, this is too far. Y'all you like, yeah I don't know.
00:05:04
Speaker
I don't know. And I think that like, even just a few more organizational tools, like being able to apply multiple labels to cats. I mean, there just, I don't know. There, there are a lot of things that would help and a lot of things that were done to help.
00:05:20
Speaker
Um, but yeah yeah, I don't know. They're, they're,
00:05:27
Speaker
I have such complicated feelings about that game. But we do not host a Mugenics podcast. We host a Marvel Snap podcast, ostensibly. And I've got three seconds left on my timer.
00:05:40
Speaker
And I hope you've enjoyed my week in Snap.
Marvel Snap Card Discussions
00:05:45
Speaker
Do you want to briefly talk Submariner before going full on into Rhi's? Did you get any time with Submariner Rhi?
00:05:53
Speaker
Um, no. I will, i so I don't have actual opinions. I've thought. I got the card. Yeah, I got it too, and I haven't been able to play it yet. And it's the card I'm most excited for this season. It's just been a super busy week.
00:06:11
Speaker
I saw folks trying things, and I i love to see that. Okay.
00:06:21
Speaker
you let's say Let's hear your week, Rie. Sorry, I'm giggling because I was going to talk about Submariner. Oh, sorry. No, no, like, just put not in a, it's more of the flavor of it. but let's Let's hear the flavor. Let's move it up.
00:06:36
Speaker
Let's, you know, i when I think about my weekend snap, usually I try to have a loose, like, topic, topic, topic, you know, have an arc. But, you know, let's jumble it up because why not? Let's do it. um No, Submariner.
00:06:51
Speaker
I think he looks really fun. like I have seen a lot of Submariner and I'm kind of jealous. And you know what it made me think of? like While I was playing the game, I realized the nostalgia that this was like that was like you know rising up within me was that feeling I had when I was a little kid. And you know i would go to my friend's house and they would have a video game console.
00:07:18
Speaker
All I wanted was a game console. All I would put was it on my wish list and I was like, never get it right? And then i would go to my other friend's house and they would have an American Girl doll. And even though I had read all the books and I knew all the lore and spent way all the time, memorized the catalog. like You were bigger fan. I didn't get to have the American Girl doll. But like, you know, and that's why I'm like, it sure looks fun, that toy you have. looks like something I would like to play with. I would enjoy.
00:07:52
Speaker
um and After I stopped laughing at myself because, you know, memories, made me kind of sad because like the excitement of like once I get like ah a video game console is just like not something ah everyone could or can have. um If you did have a video game, even if you had like we had really old PCs and stuff,
00:08:17
Speaker
um And hilariously, this led actually, minor aside, that my very first console was so out of time for, not so, so out of time, not like super young or anything, but like it was out of time for me. Someone gave us an old like Super Nintendo because they just, it was so old, it was like worthless to them. And all I had for like two or three years was Super Mario Brothers 1. then like a little bit for a couple more years, like 2, 3, and Home 2.
00:08:49
Speaker
At least you have some good games. Right? So like there is just years. Like I picked it up in college, like having not played it for like 15 years or so. Not like college. At some point, like I hadn't played it for so long since I was a little kid. Because, you know, I'd grown up and I was like, you know, there's Mass Effect, there's, you know, there's big girl games. So like, then ah i picked it up like at a like at a party, be you know, like drunk or whatever. and my fingers just like, like I knew everything. It was just in great. It was programmed muscle memory, like all of the Mario levels. Anyway. So at least it it let me have that. But the thing is, once you had Mario, you were on an equal footing with every other kid. Like, right? Like everything else was already overly monetized, right? You had Barbies, but it's like, did you have the big, awesome pink Barbie house or whatever? You know, did you have all the newest stuff? Did you have a littlest pet shop? There's so much stuff I didn't get to have. And, you know, but, like, it was still all differentiated out, right? You'd still be like, Santa, I know you love the rich kids more than the poor kids in America, at least. But, like, please, for Christmas, could I have? You know, but, like, video games, right? It was like the game was it. And then you had the game. And even the beginning of online games were that way. mean, provided...
00:10:20
Speaker
Your internet connection, right? There's always something.
Rhi's Journey in Marvel Snap
00:10:23
Speaker
Okay. But like, right, you were on that equal footing. You got to have the experience every other kid had, you know? Once you put that down. And that doesn't.
00:10:34
Speaker
and Snap made me feel that. Snap brought me nostalgia in a bag. hey that's not are for that's not what escape is fantasy is for okay anyway so i think submariner looks fun regardless of whether he's good and i'll get him eventually and i i would have had enough tokens to buy him but because i was furiously went late one night i'm like i will find something to have fun in this game it's about all of my tokens on like series five cards i didn't have which i looked at knew none of them was i super excited about right now and i got like Selene, Horseman of Death. I'm like, no, I'm tired of the apocalypse. Please let me escape. Please, game.
00:11:16
Speaker
Give me at least a Ten Rings Shang or something, but no. Anyway, so that was a waste of time. But that wasn't where I was going to start my week in SNAP.
00:11:26
Speaker
Was that good news? I had much more fun this week in SNAP. Yay! Everybody's good news! Okay, Futurama style, please. But, like, no, anyway for real, like, I actually, i was so excited because I'm like, oh, no, it's been weeks. It's been weeks of, like, of, like, you know, just complaining about the game. had to have a podcast about it. So, like, well, this week it was all, it was just, like, Marvel stocks rising, rising, rising, rising.
00:11:55
Speaker
You know, just like 1929. Okay, so like, um no, but first I just, I got to Infinite. Like I just sat down, I don't know, probably it was just one of my brain getting trapped sessions. don't know how long it took me, but like, it didn't feel like that hard. It was a deck I shared last week, but I made it like after the podcast on the basis of Ben's Aurora suggestion, which was an excellent read and suggestion to put upon this deck. um And that's what i I, like, you know, I reformulated it a bit for that. And I called it Existential Agents Miami because we're in the beach season.
00:12:35
Speaker
And that's what I took to Infinite. And, it it you know, it gave me that, like, clever thing but because it's a, you know, I've got, like, Red Guardian still in Shang and Stardust and Cosmic Ghost Rider. Although I almost, at the end, I'm like, should I replace that with Legion? Because I was seeing, like, nonstop limbo. So much Zombie Galacti. Just...
00:12:55
Speaker
Zombies rampant. Okay. So, you know, we started there, but then, um you know, I was looking to have fun. i wasted all my tokens. None of that looked good.
00:13:06
Speaker
i went back. I found this, like, Venus stack. that was either an, it might've been an auto rule of me putting like Venus with something in a deck. I don't know, but I didn't like, I did, this isn't one that i that was, you know, the sweat of my brow. I chanced upon this deck and here it is. um But I called it Venus for fun and profit because like, it's like, I was complaining about Venus. I do think she's like, she's too good. But, like, she's really fun, though, like, in the right, like, scenarios. Mm-hmm.
00:13:46
Speaker
And she revives so many. And it's really sad because these are these are all – they're, like, her entourage now. They are, like, beholden to her. They cannot stand alone. i like, she makes Bishop good again.
00:13:58
Speaker
Because, like, if she's out and Bishop's out, then suddenly, you know, you're getting extra for ah Angela, right? all those All those little things that were, like, kind of – they had nerfed because they were too powerful. And now it's like, eh, a lot of times they're too little. It's like – Ah, it's good again. And people underestimate Right? So this is just a, it's like a kitty. Jeff the baby dolphin. Venus, you know, Bishop, lots of little. That kind of stuff. Nightcrawler, Spider-Man.
00:14:28
Speaker
Nico. I miss playing Nico. Every time, ah with all the limbo, I was like, where are you, my Nico? You would solve this limbo for me. Okay. And then, um, Cosmo. Cosmo was a great, Cosmo was great, uh,
00:14:47
Speaker
tool I forgot because I've been playing so much on reveal that I'm like, I'm sorry, boy, you gotta stay home. can't come up with this one. um But like, oh, but when when you play, I mean, he doesn't mess up with your stuff. And then you can use him to defend against the Shadow Kings that everyone's playing now. Because like, let's face it, like, you know, it's buff meta. So like, um that was great. And people kept underestimating because it's like, these are simple old cards. It's Angela, it's Bishop. You know, it's like you've seen these cards before. You've seen Nightcrawler. You've seen Niko. But it's like um Mother Skani, right? Duplicating, like, your Elsa or whatever. And then so many people just assumed they were going to outpower me, you know? And they didn't realize. I'm like, you I'm just sparkling all over the place. Like, it's not going to stop immediately. It's going to keep There's going to be a fast forward at some point, you know? then we're going to swoop into the, like, magical girl, that part. So, like, yeah.
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, so I actually had a lot. I played that out until I'm like, okay. i'm like But i'm I got bored of it. hu And there's like, don't know. no Sometimes I miss when I lose to a deck because I didn't have like tech pieces.
00:16:00
Speaker
and it's like, I miss, ah you know, I miss... always winning because, you know, against an deck, as opposed to just playing my solitaire game and, like, outpowering them. You know, eventually the the highs of getting underestimated wear off, and you're like, respect me. Okay. Anyway, so... um Then, okay, this was the real triumph of the snap week that probably only me and one other person are going to care about.
00:16:29
Speaker
But the... The oldest, the oldest deck in my that I've kept long running is the deck ah formerly known as Spider Bay.
00:16:43
Speaker
Right. This was the deck that used Shuri. ah with Spider Woman, with Blink and High Evo to pull off it's shenanigans like Shuri Abomination last turn, Blinking Out, like, You're a Hulk from, like, it was just, like, it was really fun, but, like, it got outdated. Like, it just, you know, as they do the Snow Deck, and it just, it stopped working eventually as more cards and and stuff came out.
00:17:15
Speaker
but i kept it together and because what i loved it and it was like it was some real shenanigans like i hadn't like seen other places and um it was so quirky and surprising i don't know and that like the the random stuff you could pull off of it that i kept it together like maybe i can like maybe i can fix it and i would come back and try it you know sometimes and i just i't I couldn't get it to work.
00:17:42
Speaker
And there were times i thought about deleting. I'm like, maybe this is just done. We only have 20 slots. And I am like, played like seven other decks this week that i haven't told you about because like they weren't good or I put it together, played it for a couple games, stopped or i enjoyed it, whatever. These are the decks that I like, i cared to talk about. And so, you know, deck space is rare. It's only so much, you know, so much real estate. That's why it's valuable. And, um Like, didn't. And you know why I didn't?
00:18:13
Speaker
Because, like, the earliest person to get, like, hype about one of my decks and play it, like, longer maybe than I did was Skyboy. It's a real name. believe it's Adam, but, like, Skyboy is really cool handle. And, um you know, and that like, you know, meant a lot and stuck with me that we both loved this deck. So I would look at it and be like, no, sky boy. One day fix this. I have toyed with it several times trying to bring it. It's just like, ah it's just not there. Sometimes it got close. but It's like, no, it's not. It's not right.
00:18:46
Speaker
and this And this week, i mean finally, I guess the new cards you know brought it together. and it's not a high Evo deck anymore. But I finally found a working version Spider-Base. Of course it's called, my god, we're back again.
00:19:03
Speaker
And um it's it's got okay it's got the core Spider-Base setup, which is Shuri, Blink, and Spider-Woman. Because they're like the fun cards in the deck. But like the new things that I put in that like reshaped the deck, Ikari. I told you I wanted to play with Ikari. And it's like Spider Bay was where I most wanted it.
00:19:24
Speaker
and then um And then Mother Ascani, right? Because ah like she's just too good and too many decks. How many times to like how would you like one of the cards that you probably planned on playing later because it is to the leftward of your deck? you know It's progressive. and um you know How would you like to like copy that but make it one cheaper with more power? and it's like Every deck almost is like, yeah.
00:19:53
Speaker
Yeah. So this one, right? Because there's so many good targets. Sure, you'll play three, two three twelve s Like at the end, you'll get two or two diamondbacks. Because this is about this is about decimating their deck. Because you know what's devastating? You know what's devastating when you have Isuka? Isuka, the unbeaten general of war You know, like who I love and who is like champion. So when they negative her, when, you know, and like people are doing it more and more because she's really powerful and it's a reliable way to just take her out. You just get her into the negative power and then just watch that lane. She keeps losing itself. Right.
00:20:34
Speaker
ah It's so tragic when it happens. I know they're laughing. You've taken down a powerful woman. You should feel bad. Okay, so, like, but it's fun to do, I guess, from the other side, because, like, you know.
00:20:47
Speaker
um So that's what this deck has Cassandra Nova. Also, like there's enough Thanos, there's enough like deck buffers going around. She's she's been good to pull again. Plus, you know what? She's not just good against that.
00:21:02
Speaker
So many people are playing the little pinky card decks was that I just said, like Venus for fun and profit that's based off of little cards, right? And a lot of those are meant to, like, scale or double or something, you know, or combo decks that do that. So it's, like, actually pretty devastating to, like, get a whole bunch of negatives. So it's, Because you're playing so many of the cards. Right? Because I've got... they're cards that can, like like, also do things on their own because...
00:21:31
Speaker
All of these enable you to play an Akari, which is worth playing as well. So it's like, now they're all doing this double duty. Scorpion, right? Everyone hates getting scorpion.
00:21:42
Speaker
It's not bad when you're doing it though. Sandro Nova, Red Guardian! Nobody's ever been apparently. Red Guardian! I'm just like, largely unconcerned, but that's beside the point.
00:21:53
Speaker
Um, yeah, I mean, Luke Cage would fix this if I can't Red Guardian it or, you know, otherwise do shenanigans. But like, That's true of every affliction, Doug.
00:22:05
Speaker
Redguarding, along with still being one of the best like tech cards, right, also lets you play Akari there. ah It's so nice to have. It's like, oh, you're so you're even more useful. Very blinkable, too. Random character that got one of the better tech abilities. um i already mentioned diamond i already mentioned these other cards. Man thing, right? Because, I mean...
00:22:30
Speaker
you will You are totally happy to, like, Shuri Spider Woman lane, because people don't expect that. But, like, a Shuri Man thing can carry lane, especially against all the little pingy decks people are playing. Of low-cost cards, they're they're duplicating. um and And in this case, Blink used to pull out, like, I was trying to pull out six or five costs. was still maybe trying to pull out a five cost. But, like, you know, you don't hate pulling out Akari...
00:22:57
Speaker
It is a tricksy deck where you have to think about stacking stuff so you don't man thing Because I originally had Luke Cage in this deck. And one of the breakthroughs for me was realizing, like, I didn't have room for him. And the deck was better without him. Even if it meant sometimes I was putting Diamondback under a man thing.
00:23:14
Speaker
I'll take my minus three for their minus. Psssh. On their little like baby dolphin setup over there, you know? um And that was worthwhile. And Silver Sable it was also a late addition. I'm so happy to play her because like, don't know, she's got cool variants and stuff. So like, and I i don't play Bounce.
00:23:34
Speaker
But like, once again, here she pulls double duty. She's somewhere Ikari can be played. She's somewhere that can be blinked on turn six, you know? um And maybe pull out that Diamondback late. Pull out the Red Guardian. You have to remember what's in the deck. Right? Hit late.
00:23:51
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. So when you're trying to pull stuff up and then a Zabu, of course, because like, look at all these four costs I have on this deck. Aren't they better as three costs? What if it's a three costs that you later than hit with Mother Iskani and you're playing 212, you're playing two 212 Ikaris turn six because you snap them and they snapped you. You know what you got? and They don't. Okay. And, um,
00:24:18
Speaker
And that makes it great. If you don't have Mother Ascani, I was originally playing this with Abs Man because, you know, I always respect a good pair of abs. But like Mother Ascani is just a newer, better card. That's just the world of Snap we live in.
00:24:30
Speaker
So, ah yeah, this was finally like really fun to
Lauren's Gaming Update and Marvel Snap Mastery Discussion
00:24:36
Speaker
play. And it's, you know, it's trickier. You know, you have to know your angles on it. But, ah oh, man, people get devastated. It's fun. hu And, ah you know, devastated and surprised.
00:24:51
Speaker
That should be my, not a title, but, like, the experience I hope my opponent gets. You need an emote to communicate that? No, because I'm nice. i just They've already been muted, so like, I don't know. It could be a nice emote. All right.
00:25:07
Speaker
ah I don't think it would read nice in the context of being devastated and frightened. i forget what I said. Okay. um so So, yeah. And Spider-Woman. It's like, right? Who who plays Spider-Woman? It's so much fun to play.
00:25:25
Speaker
um and I had a lot of fun with this deck. So, ah yeah. I was excited. It was a real triumph for me to finally...
00:25:35
Speaker
Bring this deck and make it like something in the modern era. yeah All right. That's my weekend s snap.
00:25:46
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I'll get into mine. Keep short and sweet. I restarted Inscription for the first time in years, and oh boy, that is such a fun game. What a great game. Yeah, I've made it to phase two to say nothing else beyond that, because if you don't know, if you like card games, play Inscription blind.
00:26:07
Speaker
the The less you know, the better. it is It is a trip. The gameplay is very good, but there's also a story being told. I'm kidding. and Anyway, I've been having a lot of fun with that.
00:26:20
Speaker
I'm so excited to show my dad Inscription because he's been playing a little bit of Slay the Spire, and that's probably enough that he can play Inscription. and i mean, like he's played other card games and things. and we played Myst back in the day. That is that has some overlap. There's a little bit of Myst in inscription. There is, yeah. And I think i think he's he's he's done the required reading. He can now play this. And I'm very happy about that.
00:26:50
Speaker
It's very funny. we ah We dragged my wife's best friend don't want to call him a normie. He's not a normie, but like we showed him K-pop demon hunters and digital circus. And then he sees me playing inscription. He's like, I've come to the conclusion that you guys like weird things.
00:27:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, we do. Um, uh, what else I've been busy a shooting. I mean, besides life busyness, I shot, the official Namorita video this week.
00:27:20
Speaker
So look out for that on Tuesday. Um, you know, if as long as Marvel approves it, uh, hopefully I did an okay job. I got a super cute outfit, mostly picked up by my child. Come see my beach hat.
00:27:33
Speaker
Um... What else? What else? Mastery got updated. And I just wanted to briefly talk about that. We don't have to make it a whole thing. But 10% of the time you play game, you get wild boosters now.
00:27:46
Speaker
Those are fine. have you have Have either of you landed on a wild booster yet? ah I only just patched the game this afternoon because this sounded...
00:27:59
Speaker
I mean, i don't want to, I don't even want to bother thinking about wild boosters. I guess, I guess they're like, I guess this is a quality of life improvement, but like, yeah, it's it's a strict win. Yeah. There's no downside. The cards and then they get boosters and then yeah like, I just, I don't, it's always been good enough for me. And I, I like that the ink splits happen to the cards that I'm playing a lot of. And I just sort of like how it works, you know?
00:28:24
Speaker
okay Well, the wild boosters are all extra. They don't take away from your regular boosters. And that 10% chance you get both. You get both your regular boosters and the wild boosters. um I kind of think the wild boosters is is a little bit too small. You have to play, like, a ton of games to even get enough for a split.
00:28:41
Speaker
But... yeah It's a good start. And like I said, it's pure win. It's just not a very big one. And then and then you can re-roll your splits now, which I was very excited about, but then ah quickly deflated when I learned that the re-rolls don't have any of the ink, crackle, gold protection, which like kind of makes sense, but also ah i'm not I'm not ever going to spend gold on these re-rolls, even though they made them cheap. They made them 100 gold, but if they don't have extra crackle chance, I'm not... i' um I'm not interested.
00:29:11
Speaker
so You still get one free re-roll every time. So, you know, ah whatever you like, that slightly increases your odds of getting it because you can re-roll it when you don't get it.
00:29:24
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they They said there's more that's more. More improvements to Mastery. This is the second second update in as many months. And ah they said more is in development and coming.
00:29:36
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ah This time they did not tease what that means. We'll see. But I'm guessing it means that it's not coming next month because they couldn't even tell us what it is. Okay, we are going to be talking about the upcoming August.
00:29:51
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August datamines. Cards coming. It's not the Spider-Man season. That's July. This is Fractured Frontier, which looks like but Space Cowboys.
00:30:03
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So that's what it looks like. Yeah, this is our this is our previews. We're not ranking them. We're just going to read them and talk about them. First look for for ben it sounded like I've i've read these like a couple days ago. Okay. Well, up first. Let's get into it. The season pass card.
00:30:25
Speaker
Thanos fractured frontier. ah he's a five, seven with a game start ability, load an infinity shot. Your cards have quick draw.
00:30:36
Speaker
Then it was loads again. uh, we are assuming that quick draw is a thing that happens if you play the card on the turn that you drew it. Cause I would be shocked if it meant anything else, but we don't know that it's just like very clear from context clues.
00:30:53
Speaker
Mm-hmm. we there's a similar mechanic in Magic the Gathering. It's, you know, that's where they get their stuff. Anywho. On reveal, fire all loaded shots.
00:31:05
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um So Thanos himself has a game start and an on reveal. Thanos does not have quick draw, but he gives your cards quick draw. Thanos loads again a specific quick draw. assume that stacks with any other quick draw they might have. So, you know, that's cool. um And you want to know about these shots, right? So on reveal, fire all loaded shots. What could the shots be?
00:31:27
Speaker
There are six of them, each corresponding to the the flavors of Infinity Stone. We've got the reality shot. Make a copy of your lowest cost card here.
00:31:37
Speaker
And that's a big C cost. So, you know, for all that means like that means create it in the spot, right? That's how you read that. It's not like generating it into your hand.
00:31:51
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. Okay. That's how I read it. That is an interesting, like they don't usually... Yeah, i i don't I don't think we've seen make a copy of your lowest cost card here. Also, like, there are all sorts of ways you could read that instruction. Like, is it your lowest cost card here that you're making a copy of?
00:32:16
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Or is it your lowest cost card anywhere and we're making a copy of it here? like Oh, I didn't even think about it that way. yeah If you ask me. um But let's move on from the fucking janky ass reality shot to the power shot. A much less ambiguous gameplay effect. Give this plus three power. So I think this is a Thanos fractured frontier.
00:32:39
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um And we've got the time shot. Reduce the cost of your cards in hand by one. So it's significant that Thanos here is a five cost. Not really a finisher, but a penultimate play.
00:32:54
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um Anywho, we got Space Shot. Give this plus one power. Thanos Fractured Frontier has movable next turn. So that's pretty exciting. Less exciting if you load up multiple Space Shots, though, because there's probably just the one turn, you know. and don't you I think that you'll load a different one every time.
00:33:19
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personally. i don't think ahll you'll be getting a lot of... I don't think you'll get repeats. ah I hope not. Yeah, I guess that's not explicitly stated. That's like, every other one works, so... I assumed if you quick drew six times... I guess five times, because he starts with one. If you quick drew five times, you would always get all six shots.
00:33:40
Speaker
Yeah. Then we've got the soul shot. Destroy the weakest enemy card here. And the Mind Shot. Weakest. Draw two cards.
00:33:52
Speaker
I assume weakest enemy card here means lowest power. lowest power Yeah. It's still like they're they're using these shortcuts that they did not used to use. yeah More and more. This is a card. It's a whole lot of card.
00:34:07
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i I mean, I bet it's ah bet it's pretty good. That's what say. Seems good. Yeah. Just the time shot. Reduce the cost of your hand cards in your hand by one. That's that's like Sarah, but with a bunch of power.
00:34:23
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Well, I mean, it's also like another card we're going to be talking about in a second. It's true. Golly. Yeah. Seems strong. don't know. I'm not excited about it. its It's perhaps more complicated than it needs to be. But I guess that's Thanos is for you.
00:34:45
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Okay. I have a Miley. Ever since you said that the two-word sequence, Space Cowboy, i have been not been able to stop thinking about how much Cowboy Bebop was.
Marvel Snap New Cards and Themes
00:35:00
Speaker
like can Like, that is such a cool... I like the vibe for the season. Like, thinking Spike was, like, the coolest person ever exist was very formative.
00:35:10
Speaker
I keep trying to get my wife and kid to watch it with me. It's so good. Oh, yeah. i was I was obsessed with that. Okay. And i and then I was also just like like, oh my gosh, my hair is blue and short. Like, i I could have, especially right after I could have tried to do it. flu Okay. I wanted to be Spike, but also to be a woman. It's hard when, like, everyone you think is cool is, like, the protagonist that's made to be cool, but then they never...
00:35:38
Speaker
look or are like you feel like i feel like spike as a woman would i mean that suit come on could totally pull it off right yeah so like okay anyway so space camp but like and then looking at this so i that kind of was what i was thinking about through some of the the time i should have been paying i did i did type these all out i can type without actually processing what Okay, and then, um, but this is so cool. Okay, yes, I am predisposed. I love Agamotto. I love Nico. Like, Herbie? Herbie?
00:36:17
Speaker
I can never remember. Okay. Say the H when it's a name. Um... ah that's been a joy because like he was an activate card so I respected him less but it's like I'm just like random fun you know each turn okay so ah so yes I was gonna love this but like how cool is this everything I've complained about when that like everything but like They're doing something. One, here's a new keyword that actually introduces a new interesting tension that hasn't been in the game before of like, hey, it's a big bonus to playing it early, but that's not when you have decided to, you know, to play it. And like, that's cool. And it's thematic for like Space Cowboy, you know. it's fantasy western you know like that like we have for the season so it's thematic it's a new keyword that's exciting it's not like horde where it like kind of has to be tied to zombies right like you could easily have future cards that have quick draw and they don't have to be space cowboys
00:37:23
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My problem with this and the loading it all up, it's like immediately I want to be like, yay, big finish, like boom, boom, boom, at the end, that sounds fun. But from the other side, like it sucks. It's like when I see a Ramatut go off, which I i like, i was playing a a conquest against someone with a Ramatut and like, this is the most Ramatut I've seen.
00:37:44
Speaker
Sequentially. Okay. So, um, but like the thing Ramatite is like Ramatite happens and it's boring. Cause like, ah yeah I don't know, it's doing stuff. And then you click on it and then you try and click through to see what he did, but then you have to double click. Cause they have this annoying thing where it like clicks out and i have to click.
00:38:01
Speaker
Back into the carpet. Yeah. Anyway, the UI is is annoying. And so then I have to click through to see what it did. and it's like not fun. Whereas sometimes you're being devastated. oh is that what the step on me people feel? I was like, sometimes you're being devastated. It's cool. And it's like, I've never understood that emotion. and It's like, well, it's a good animation, right? Like at least you get something I don't know. I expect this is going to have a great animation.
00:38:33
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like, it's not when you, when a whole bunch of effects are happening at you, and it's not like the same repeated one where you know what it is, it's like, it's very, it's like, meh. So I wish they could have thought about that and like, address that in some way. But otherwise, great comparison.
00:38:51
Speaker
Right. This is ah otherwise like this is an exciting card to want to play, at least for me. Mess around with. I mean, you know me. I liked Ultimate Ultron.
00:39:02
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Infinity Ultron. There we go. One of the there's too many. there's's there Ultron's all over the place. OK. I had fun with that. You know, i you know, I have fun with this.
00:39:16
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Yeah, I expect you will. I think this is an interesting card as the season passed for a few reasons. It's a very complicated card. And I'm like, I'm kind of excited for my kid who's still, you know, sealed 350 or something to get to get his hands on it.
00:39:30
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I think it's something he's gonna have a lot of fun with having something that's so different from the rest of his collection. I'm interested, interested to hear the reaction. um it's also notably like we have a brand new keyword if you get the season pass card you can give that keyword to all your cards like it only helps thanos but it's still like it's an interesting way to introduce a new keyword instead of having to have a whole deck full of quick draws or quick draw synergy just be like Every card has quick draw.
00:39:55
Speaker
so i think it's ah it's an interesting design. It's a bold choice to make such a complicated card the season pass, but but Thanos is a recognizable character. Notably, this entire season is existing characters.
00:40:08
Speaker
What's that? It's better to make the season pass card a little bit complicated than a little bit boring, I think. It's true. like The season pass card should be memorable. and like Yeah.
00:40:20
Speaker
This will be me the highlight. Yeah. The star of the season. Red Wolf is the only character here who doesn't already have a snap card. And that's I feel i feel a certain way about that.
00:40:33
Speaker
Yeah, I also feel a certain way about that. You know, I don't i don't ah begrudge them featuring a couple recognizable characters every season to, you know, use them for marketing and get people who are casual Marvel fans into the characters and all that. But, like, we don't need seven characters that are already in the game, especially when one of them is Hellcow. It's like, that's... Only people already into Snap are going to know that character. Anyway.
00:40:58
Speaker
Hellcow is the best. Everyone loves Hellcow. Yeah, Bessie. Bessie the Vampire Cow. Okay. Okay. Ray, onto our super premium. Okay.
00:41:09
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um Jane Foster, a Fractured Frontier, a three cost four power super premium season pass card with the on reveal ability, judge four other random characters, plus one power if yours, or minus one power for enemies. With the quick draw add-on, judge the worthy again.
00:41:40
Speaker
that mean only the ones that are yours get a second hit? Like, I don't know what judge the worthy means. I think they're trying to say basically the ah repeat the first ability. And my guess is if... My guess is just it just happens one additional time randomly is what I would guess. I could read it that way too.
00:42:03
Speaker
I don't think I mean, like, I guess I guess they're trying to be flavorful by but it's just confusing is yeah like it's not immediately legible. Like, you know, when we talk about Wolverine regenerating, like at least that tells you the thing it does.
00:42:19
Speaker
Whereas like, well, Jane shows up and judges for other characters. There's no like. You can't, well, like, you know what the word judge means, and it doesn't mean give plus one power if it's friendly and minus one power if it's, that like, that's not what that word means, y'all. That's not, like, this is stupid, if you ask me.
00:42:41
Speaker
i Judge, I think, is is the first judge is okay, where it's just like choose four other cards. I can figure that out from context. But judge the worthy? I don't know what that means. It could be just a repeat.
00:42:53
Speaker
That's where it's confusing. Yeah, I think it is the event again, but it's like, are they the worthy that have already been judged? Yeah, is it the same four cards? Is it only the subset of fours? Oh, is it only yours? That's what I was wondering.
00:43:08
Speaker
Oh, now I'm more confused. I was originally less confused, but I've only grown in my confusion. Okay. Even if you don't quickdraw her, she's she's pretty good. I'm into
00:43:21
Speaker
it. Quickdraw can only make that bigger. um Let's think about all the memes you can do when she judges them. like ha ha That better be a good animation, too. Yeah. her gun is art her She has like a giant Mjolnir gun. It's pretty cool. The art in this season is It's fun. i like these I like these better than the Horsemen. Also, is she going to be 3A? Because you do need to be able to see four other characters.
00:43:49
Speaker
Yes, there has to be four other characters on the board. You're right. and like If you had priority on turn three, then you're really hoping that your opponent played a one cost and two cost, and also didn't get priority somehow. I don't know. I think you take advantage, though, right? That probably they won't. Squirrel girl. So you're squirrel girling, and your deck is more built around the buff side.
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's smart. I think that's the smart way to play it. Clea. Oh, I forgot something I wanted to say about Thanos. Because he's giving quickdraw to every card, right? Friend of the show, Iron Cloak, had a great idea to play zero-cost cards in that deck. Because then you can you know make sure you hit the quickdraw or whatever. And also, in your initial hand of four cards...
00:44:38
Speaker
They all have quick draw. You could play a zero and a one and get two quick draws on the first turn. But it also made me think of like the downside of quick draw is if you're if you're forcing extra draws with a crystal out of Morlock, Niko, whatever those cards, you can't play them the turn you draw them.
00:44:55
Speaker
So kind of an interesting tension. OK, we're all excited about quick draw. Yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker
okay I'll go on to Psylocke. Psylocke, also a three four On reveal, give cards in your hand that are 5 cost or more, minus 1 cost. If it's quick draw, she discounts your whole hand by 1.
00:45:19
Speaker
Which seems really good. Yeah, she does. Yeah. It's a pretty good ability. Yeah. It's like, what if we just took what Makia did, but it was vastly better. Okay.
00:45:33
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and every way
00:45:37
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I guess that maybe is the fun of quickdraw is they can put sillier abilities on cards because they're going to be intermittent, right? Like Niko's draw spell would be so good if it was its own card.
00:45:49
Speaker
When will this never be the correct thing to do on three? Some of the other ones you can be like, well, I can see you'd want to do something else. When do you ever want play it? No, you're right. You you play her are as soon as you draw her. But what if you draw her on four or five? That's when it starts becoming a question like... Is it worth doing? Oh. Yes. Definitely. Still. Depends on how much you got in your hand. You probably have backup stuff to help, right? Make things cheaper if that's your strategy. So at this point, she's just going to be extra sass. You can play out your whole hand.
00:46:20
Speaker
so I've been playing this like mini, the mini Ascani Venus stack with lots of little cards. I'm like, yeah, just you just play them all. Why limit yourself? You can have it all. Okay. Okay.
00:46:35
Speaker
think it's good, right? like How is this not really good? Yeah. Yeah, seems really good. I don't i don't love the design. i don't i't I'm not excited to add this one to the game, but it does seem good, yeah.
00:46:49
Speaker
Oh, it's notable, if you're playing her in something that's high curve, you don't even need to worry about the quick draw. you're just You're going to discount most of your hand. It doesn't matter if if you just drew her. Yeah. Okay.
00:47:04
Speaker
Are we ready to hear about Dr. Octopus? Fractured Frontier? That's a two one On reveal, put your leftmost card in hand on top of your deck to get a random character.
00:47:18
Speaker
Give both plus 3 power. And we don't know if the random character... think it's Agent 13. It's any character.
00:47:29
Speaker
Yeah, that's wild. I guess what you're supposed to want to do with it is put back a card that you drew early with quick draw that it might be quick drawn next turn. you know That's cute.
00:47:44
Speaker
um You know. Cool. Cool, I guess.
00:47:52
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um Right? I mean, it goes with Vicky Hand, right? like how is that and You do get something created in hand. Are you counting on it being something you want to play, even with plus three power?
00:48:04
Speaker
But that's always with Vicky. You're always, i guess you're not always. Sometimes you're just trying to bastion. like sides but the right That's the joy. The randomness and applying that to the battlefield is is the joy of imaginary battle.
00:48:22
Speaker
The stat line seems... but You're giving both plus three power. It's not just the card that you generated. It's also the card you put back on your deck. So I kind of get the stat line. Even if you don't play the created card, you're still you know planning to play the card you put back on your deck.
00:48:37
Speaker
So two four is fine. I like that we're getting a synergy card in in the season that is introducing Quick Draw.
00:48:47
Speaker
This might be a great one with Agent Venom. Because you can buff up a card after you've Agent Venomed. In your hand.
00:48:58
Speaker
Trying to figure it out. Maybe it's too randomized. not saying you're wrong. It's not clicking. I'm just saying he's a good target to get three power, right? So he fits in an Agent Venom deck. Yeah. see what you're saying. You wouldn't want to put Surge with Agent Venom always.
00:49:18
Speaker
do you oh you don't want to agent venom after search right you don't want to i don't know there's weirdness with like agent venom and doing stuff with your deck that i've encountered in the agent venoming that i've done and so it's like this is a way that you could like buff a card in your hand that needs buffed because you're playing an agent venom deck so it's all low low power cards It's also just like targeted buff in hand. We don't have anything else that... Well, we have like Wingbeat and Mother Ascani, right? Yeah. But this another way to do that. I guess they're all targeting the left most.
00:49:56
Speaker
That is the commonality, yes. ah Usually the card you most want to get, you know, a big finisher card you're waiting to play. He does have the the element of moving the card from your left to the right. Are there cards where we care about that?
00:50:12
Speaker
Like Apocalypse? mean, like, it gets it out of the way if it's a card that you didn't want to Mother Ascani. Oh, yeah. I run into that. I'm like, Blink is in the card.
00:50:25
Speaker
Get She-Hulk over to the left so that you can Moon Girl her.
00:50:31
Speaker
I like it for that utility. It's an interesting card for sure. Yeah, i don't know I don't know how often it's going to make a top 12, but i like I like getting a new tool card. It really makes me think about it.
00:50:42
Speaker
um What we're going to do with that guy. Rhi, our next card. a Red Wolf. Fracture Frontier. Which is weird because we don't have a regular Red Wolf.
00:50:54
Speaker
It is weird. We also don't have a regular Caliban. um Oh yeah, that's true. Okay. yeah It is a two cost zero power card with on reveal plus one power for each card in your hand.
00:51:10
Speaker
And also quick draw. Give your hand plus one power. Mad thinker finally relevant. This is crazy. if it's if you play If you quick draw him on turn two and you haven't played anything yet, he gets four power and gives four power to your hand.
00:51:27
Speaker
I guess that's not crazy. We have other two eights. That's not the wildest thing. I talked myself back down.
00:51:36
Speaker
He's one you want to draw. He's one that you want to play with Doc Ock to draw later. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, if you if you manage to fill up your hand, you know, like, the hand doesn't always grow throughout the game, but sometimes it does.
00:51:53
Speaker
you have to have a hand that's, like, holding onto things or generating cards or bouncing, something like that. Those are usually good, because when you're playing those Devil Dino-style decks and Agent Coulson and all of that, it usually means you have a you have so many more options, right, with a full hand.
00:52:09
Speaker
As long as it's not sentinels, you know? And so it's like it's all it's like a double bonus in that way. For me, I feel like when I play it, in that like, oh not you know not only is i am am I just having a benefit from a big hand, I have way more options every turn for what I want to do.
00:52:28
Speaker
can actually see him being good in bounce without the quick draw, just using his on reveal twice. You can make him pretty big and bounce keeps things in your hand. I mean you can make him moderately big I think he can hit like 13 power or something like that maybe not quite well 12 cause you're never gonna have 7 cards in your hand because you could you could like play snow guard red wolf like if there's things you can do you could be cute a turn with other cards yes you could end up with 7 at the point when red wolf fractured frontier reveals it will be difficult though yeah
00:53:06
Speaker
that think is such a Maybe. Yeah. kind of think that the fact that this card is friends with Red Thinker... like is That's a red flag.
00:53:17
Speaker
yeah Yeah. We're going to see so much Cosmo next season, you think? Look all this on-reveal, quick-draw nonsense. Well, and the quick-draws down as on-reveals, even... yeah i'm pretty sure it's on reveal but like they don't have the like it's a separate keyword i think we don't have any quick draws that aren't on reveal so it's hard to say but i would think you could do a quick draw without an on reveal yeah well the thing is i think if you play red wolf fractured frontier on the cosmo lane you don't get the plus one power for each card in your hand but i bet you do give your hand plus one power i kind of agree i think you're right that sounds right to me
00:53:57
Speaker
I can't argue that. Rian, just put you on the spot. Do you know Red Wolf? Do you know who this character is? and Red Wolf? Uh-uh. I'm i've never heard of red wolf familiar with Fractured Frontier, to be honest. I believe it's ah i believe it's a Marvel snap invention.
00:54:12
Speaker
Oh, okay. Well, that would be one the reasons why. Yeah, I don't think this is from comics. If it is, nobody has told me so. Probably an X-Men. feel like every Marvel character I don't know is an X-Men.
00:54:25
Speaker
Most of the horsemen from the last from the two previous seasons this year, three of the... Anyway. the The apocalypse seasons with the horsemen, most of those are also second dinner inventions as far as I know.
00:54:39
Speaker
um Like the concept of apocalypse horsemen, obviously not, but the specific ones they chose do not have a lore premise. Even the people who had been horsemen, like of the...
00:54:52
Speaker
You know, like, they didn't use the the actual Archangel horseman design. it was i don't I don't get it. I don't get it. It's a good design. It's interesting.
00:55:03
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I
00:55:06
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don't know. It's it's like... i don't want to get on too much of a tangent. Like these designs are cool. And so that's kind of fun. Like, like death on a horse with a scythe and a and a flaming purple horse with like four eyes looks cool.
00:55:20
Speaker
But like, I still want to see more characters added to the game. yeah okay Speaking of death, fractured frontier five, seven on reveal, resurrect all your destroyed characters to random locations. It is destroy. Yeah. About dang time. I'm kind of surprised it took them this long.
00:55:41
Speaker
This has to be the tipping point, right? For the archangel horseman of doubt, all those cards that we've been talking about that like don't fit into classic destroy that it maybe now like we'll have a thing. Yeah.
00:55:54
Speaker
Yeah. I still see a lot of Weapon X. I love it they put it. They always have to put it alone because they're too busy like building their Deadpool stuff somewhere else. You're just red guarding it. Yeah, you can't destroy your Weapon X. Every time.
00:56:06
Speaker
um It seems good, but I've seen some people be like, this is too good. They they shouldn't release it like this. And and I'm like... You have to pay for the cards you destroy, unlike yeah the cards you discard.
00:56:20
Speaker
You had to get them onto the board in the first place. This isn't as scary as Hela to me. Stardust is still like a one-card tech against it. This feels just like hide us Dig Elixir, and we all know what a Terror Elixir is.
00:56:37
Speaker
Yeah. It'll be fun, but i don't expect it to be ah Terror Not like Gambit Horseman of Death, because you can, like I said, you can if if it gets too OP, just Stardust everywhere is what will happen, you know? ye that's true too. Yeah, the first week, don't play this card.
00:56:55
Speaker
Ben? Alright, are we ready to hear about new Hellcow? Hellcow 2? Can you believe that your frontier It's a series 4 card. I wonder how we're getting that.
00:57:07
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um End of turn. Afflict all other cards here with minus 1 power. Then destroy your cards here with 0 power or less.
00:57:19
Speaker
Wow. Seems really good to me. Oh, I forgot to give it stats. Yeah, I don't know what its stats are. Oh, well that is interesting.
00:57:32
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This is great. And it only destroys your cards here with zero power or less. It does not destroy opponents' cards here with zero power or less. Yeah. It just just it just deals with your with your hoods and your voids.
00:57:45
Speaker
Yeah. That seems pretty cool, honestly. Yeah, that seems like a good card. New Hellcow better than old Hellcow. Pair it with Diamondback.
00:57:58
Speaker
And it's also just, you know, like, if you get it out turn three, it's so many turns of, like, afflicting negative power on their cards in the lane.
00:58:08
Speaker
if it's in is If it's in her own lane, she's just doing Spider-Woman stuff. Yes, that's true. I don't know. I feel like destroying hoods is, like, maybe the best.
00:58:22
Speaker
Like, that's... oh yeah That's the use I'm most excited about for this card, I think. going to so satisfying to play after somebody like Hobgoblins you. Oh, yeah.
00:58:35
Speaker
I mean, like Viper is like Valk is like Odin is there are already a bunch of ways to deal with goblins. And it's always very satisfying when you happen to have the tech. Also, Grandmaster. But this will be good with new Scorpion, right?
00:58:48
Speaker
Yes, because that only applies to enemy affliction. yeah We will have new scorpion by the time Hellcow comes out.
00:58:59
Speaker
who Listeners, if you don't know, new scorpion is a six cost with ongoing that doubles your opponent's affliction. Okay.
00:59:12
Speaker
Oh, it's me. Okay. Red Hulk, Fractured Frontier, 3 cost, 8 power. um With the on-reveal, minus 1 power for each enemy card here.
00:59:25
Speaker
And the quick draw ability, plus 1 power instead. um Pretty good, i feel like. yeah um I mean, you definitely... It's like...
00:59:40
Speaker
Yeah, I guess you you maybe are. it It sucks later in the game, but like.
00:59:47
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don't know. Starts at three eight. but as Smallest whole cart. we have
00:59:56
Speaker
What'd you say? that Yeah, it doesn't do anything, though. Yeah, it it's like, yeah, it's a it's a gladiator or a star brand, right? It's like it's a it's a Wilson Fisk.
01:00:08
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Wilson Fisk is a better comparison. Yeah. And I, yeah, you're like, you're happy when you quick draw with it, even though you're probably only going to get one or two power. Right. I guess, I guess if you quick draw later in the game, you might get more.
01:00:21
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um You might, but like, you're not excited about playing it on turn five and right. Doing what else, you know, if you draw him on turn one or two, i think you still play him on three, even though he doesn't have the quick draw, because you can just play him on a lane where your opponent doesn't have cards. Maybe they play cards there at that turn. Yeah.
01:00:39
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yeah
01:00:42
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go ahead just gonna say even if you play him on a lane that they play that turn they're still probably not playing a ton of cards right so you like he's a 3-7 instead that's like that's fine
01:00:55
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um aside from your last week's like idea of a self affliction that was pretty cool like I don't what are we synergizing Red Hulk with where is he going what is he doing i mean, you could play him with Luke Cage to make sure he's a three eight, but hey that's not worth like a Soren. I don't know.
01:01:20
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Right. I don't I don't think this really has little I mean, or or Shadow King.
01:01:26
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um But like you have to be doing something else with the Shadow King too. like Shadow King to save you two power is not is not worth it. But it's good counter. When you're looking to Shadow King, you're playing ongoing or you're playing like honest power cards. you know so and that this this fits into that, I guess. like say When you need to fill a deck with Wilson Fist type stuff.
01:01:48
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yeah If you have a reason to play him anyway.
01:01:57
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he was He seems like just big enough that he is going to be good and all over. But like, yeah I don't know. is he like is he Is he more on the side of Kraglin, maybe? i don't know.
01:02:11
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Oh, I got Kraglin now. don't know how excited about it, though. It was in the late night frenzy of like getting cards. I'm like I don't care about any of these. i've seen more people playing them lately so many packs to get submariner and i oh it's they gave you the american girl doll and you don't even know you don't even know who who they are you can even name them all you've read all of the novel or anything you know about about their surprise and the
01:02:42
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where so common and i'm just saying if i had it i would mean i would enjoy it i'd be enjoying this i thought i looked at the little card and like he looks like a little action figure and i i don't know i just want to and now not only i mean so many exciting cards that i'm not gonna play i got punisher war machine i got karen page
01:03:08
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I'm more likely to pay play Karen Page than I am to play Punisher War Machine. And in fact, probably more likely to play Karen Page than Submariner. i would play all these cards. As far as cards that like speak to me and the things I like to do. i don't know.
01:03:22
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Rhea, is this a grass is always greener thing? Like you want them because you don't have them? No, I always thought Submarine, you know, look, he generates random cards. He's about buffing. This is a reco its recoded. a recoded.
01:03:34
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and like i agree. I am afraid. And I like to scare myself with like megalodons because the best way to scare yourself is with extinct creatures. never take it And also I would never be silly enough to like go into the deep ocean. So like sometimes I just look up videos just to, you know, just to frighten myself a little because I can't it. Why? I can't do roller coasters anymore. They my body. you feel about Jason Statham movies? What?
Casual Chat on Movies and Card Introductions
01:04:03
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The mag don't watch Jason Statham movies. They made two of these things. They did. don't He's just not like the kind of action actor that gets me excited, to be honest with you. so like i you know haven't seen like any of his movies. oh Except for the one where he was going to die from a heart attack.
01:04:22
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But then he saw like school girls in uniform it was very like i feel like this movie would not have aged well all right like crying or something yep i don't even know that's just who i think jason statham is so i don't know i i first got acquainted with them and like i i want to say transporter 2 i think is the first jason statham movie i saw it didn't didn't catch that first one until later but uh i don't know he's a capable action star uh
01:04:53
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He was in that Guy Ritchie. He was in a couple of Guy Ritchies, I guess. Now that I'm... I don't know. I'm sort of Statham neutral. Okay. ah Now you have to give your Statham... I'm sorry. Now we also need your... I'm like Statham unaware.
01:05:13
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Ben is Statham neutral. Please, please give us your Statham alignment. Okay.
01:05:23
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um i'm i'm in between I'm in between neutral and unaware. like i know who he is, I've seen a few of his movies, i worked at Blockbuster while he was making movies. um But yeah, i'm not i'm not i'm not an I'm not super into action unless it has something else going on besides the action.
01:05:45
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and want i want Most of my movies I want to be a little bit more than just ah like, vapid spectacle. Not that there's anything spectacle. Then I can understand why you are not.
01:05:59
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i Yeah, Jason Statham is in a lot of the the vapid spectacle movies, I would say. I am sometimes susceptible to vapid spectacle of various sorts.
01:06:10
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It depends, right? Like, if there's if there's some substance there, absolutely. Like, a John Wick, like, that choreography is beautiful. Like, that justifies itself. But like Transformers where it's all CG and explosions. and I'm just bored during the 25 minute fights.
01:06:28
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I've watched like think pieces on Transformers that were longer I think than the
01:06:41
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thank you to the internet. um Okay. You know what? I'm not even going to review the season overall. ah We talked about it plenty.
01:06:51
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There's a good amount of cards here that aren't slop or that are like not total slop. And I appreciate that. Right. Like that's a new thing. Like there's several cards that are giving us new things to do.
01:07:02
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Throw in fresh magic keywords in. this is a good one it's an interesting tension like as long as they balance it right you know and it's also simple enough for snap maybe yeah i hope so but i do worry what it means like are they like this is coming off hot off the heels of movable and empowerment like we're just going to be getting new keywords every single month um i don't know that we're at that point in the like complexity creep of snap like i think we have we could an think we have a few more years until we have to be pumping out keywords like that yeah okay re you want to give us a quick reminder of next week's secret homework all right okay so we have all consumed dungeon crawler carl and so finally next week we will discuss it book club
01:07:59
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I'm like, um I don't know, an hour or two into my re-read, my re-listen ah the of the first one. Do you have access to the text? Can can you consume it without the the audio book enhancing the experience?
01:08:17
Speaker
No. Lauren, you are unwilling to... Okay, all right, I understand. you want me to Why do you want me to read the paper version? No, I have the perfect half-half. I started one way and finished the other. i represent all medium the medium place.
01:08:34
Speaker
Give me a reason. I'm not a good reader. and And i can't read while I'm walking the dog. that's That's all very true and fair.
01:08:46
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i just like I wonder if you would have a different opinion. if if you Spoilers. Not a fan. Maybe I'm a fan of Vapid Spectacle in in audio format.
01:09:01
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We're all allowed to just enjoy things. You know what I mean? I don i feel like... I feel like once you get older, you stop feeling shame about any music or like whatever that you consider embarrassing. Yeah. Guilty pleasure. That's a nonsense concept. um You are, you are correct in the sense that I attribute a lot of my enjoyment to how good the audio production is and the voice acting. I'm really appreciative of that. Okay.
01:09:33
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Well, listener, viewer, if you liked what you heard and you haven't already, like and
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01:09:51
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01:10:09
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Joe's a great guy. Check it out. Especially if you've got like a casual lean or if you want to hear what's coming out in movies or he's he's got his finger on the pulse for certain areas of pop culture.
01:10:22
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oh Joe, friend of the show and listener. We love you, Joe. ah Come, come hear what we, what we think about Namorita and dungeon crawler, Carl next week. Same snap time, same snap channel.
01:10:46
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So, what's up?
01:10:50
Speaker
Anything? You are always ready to go. do, but I have been trying to say, I know I talk a lot during regular podcasts, so I try to let guys have it. Yeah, but we like it when you talk a lot.
01:11:02
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We're here for the Re-Outros. The co-hosts and the listeners like it when you talk a lot. So, like, don't feel bad about it. It's just a thing that we're excited to have.
01:11:16
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Okay. Then, top of my mind a local story. This is actually something I was going to mention. Like, had in mind for, like, an it was a roulette thing or something from forever ago. And I forget what, was mashed up with some other thought at the time.
01:11:34
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sense change is that one one time I was going I remembered the joys that that that a library has you know and have started uh getting more physical books in the library again I was I was going in one and I I go to the it's it's it's kind of far but it's you know it's a nice area of town so they have like a whole parking garage and it's like it's nice library and So I was going in, and I'm trying to park in this parking garage. And I have this fear of parking garages from when a parking garage came down me when I used to ride a moped and, like, cracked my helmet.
01:12:12
Speaker
like they still Excuse me, a why? there Like, the whole thing came down on you? Yeah, I was... Okay, I used to ride a motorcycle, which is way cooler, because... ah But then i I didn't... It wasn't mine. I was borrowing it from my parents. and then... ah But then...
01:12:32
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Then then i was able to borrow a moped. ah
01:12:39
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so I should just explain this. is something for my like My mom had a midlife crisis and she thought she was going to ride a motorcycle, which was like never going to happen. So they got her a motorcycle and then of course she didn't ride it. And then they're like, like well, Ray, do you?
01:12:53
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yeah hu
01:12:57
Speaker
So I rode a motorcycle. I did crash it. I was fine, but it was so heavy I couldn't pick it up, which was embarrassing. Not being able to pick up your own bike is really embarrassing. I happened to call someone like, let me pick up my bike. I crashed and I'm okay.
01:13:08
Speaker
Okay. I'm glad you're okay. But it was like, it was the coolest time in my life when I was riding my own motorcycle. Okay. Anyway, and ah then she was like, no, the problem is the motorcycle. It's too scary. i need moped.
01:13:24
Speaker
And she like, so they got her a moped, but then the moped was too scary. So they're like, okay, they had just taken away the motor. I hadn't known it was going away. it was just gone. oh and I missed it. Yeah. But then they're like, well, do you want, do you want to use the moped then? Cause you know, she's not going to have it.
01:13:44
Speaker
So I got the moped for a while. And I was like going into a parking garage and I wasn't like sure how it worked with mopeds. Cause like, I don't know, grew up really, they were in like parking garages. Like, and I used used to the car. And so I like waited too long on the arm. And then when i finally decided to go, it came, the arm came down and smacked me right in my helmet.
01:14:10
Speaker
I was so afraid I was going to show up on YouTube like someone filmed it and was like, watch this idiot get fucked by a parking garage arm. Yeah, it cracked my helmet. That's crazy. Yeah, off the right. And then I went into work and I'm like, this just happened to me. I didn't know those arms were so And they were like, no.
01:14:33
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America. And had to work. This is when I was working like phones, like phone repairs a long time ago. Oh, man. Anyway, sorry. I just, it's like once I started getting into it, like, let's see. I can't like tease it adolf I'm glad you explained because the way the story sounded at first was it sounded like you had been inside a parking garage when whole thing...
01:14:58
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Some structural problem it collapsed on top of and around you. And maybe it was a gradual thing because like, I guess you were able to escape.
01:15:09
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And only a single chunk of rubble hit you in the head while you were on your way out. And that's how you survived. Because like that's what it sounded like yeah like like. Lauren, you got the same impression? Okay, I'm very glad we got the details. It's a whole different incident in my mind.
01:15:29
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yeah My assumption was some crumbling, not total collapse. but like This was a full-on like cave of wonders escape as far as was concerned. It's where my anxiety was the cause of and then you know also justified about my fear of going to center parking. This parking arm on my bow pen. So I'm always a little iffy with like the parking garage arms. like Are they after me? i You know, you have things happen to you. okay So like...
01:15:59
Speaker
uh i'm going and i see okay right in the middle where i'm trying to fucking drive is a little like fucking fallout robot cop like a little like beam shaped yeah like just like rolling like i haven't even played a fallout in so many years that like i i can't think of any name but it's like a you know like a sure and it's just like I'm like, what the actual fuck is happening? And it is, like, I can already tell. I'm like, this thing doesn't know what it's doing. It's, like, rolling in the middle of everyone, you know, the way, going different directions. And I'm like, what the actual? I'm, like, thinking about, like, what a dystopia this is. It's, like, just, like, thing. And it was just my way, you know? Yeah.
Critique of Robot Cops and Tech Usage
01:16:45
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in it was just in my way you know um
01:16:52
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And it was so, I'd never seen a robot cop. i don It's like, this is comics, right? Comics has happened. There's so many comics like about Gotham this stuff are like, hey, don't do robot cops. It's a bad idea. This is your sci-fi future warning.
01:17:08
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Never make robots. Which, of course, like you know the fuck. Some people look at that and are like, oh, I got to make robot cops. It's like a how-to for villains, right? They didn't have the imagination because villains you know rarely do, but then they see they're like, yes, yes, that is what I want to impose. if i Anyway, they're like no, right? It's like, that's not what we were trying to They're like, don't build the death ray. Okay.
01:17:32
Speaker
So, uh, and then it was just like weird and dystopian and like I eventually forgot about it and then I was like seeing some local news and they're like, Dubbot!
01:17:45
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I'm like, ah! So I go in, so this thing had a name. It was called the Dubbot. And, uh, yeah, that's what it was. It was a little like, just a roll around robot with like a camera and whatever.
01:17:58
Speaker
And it was being decommissioned because they had paid $128,000 to some corporation for two of these robots. Okay. Right. And they didn't even use one robot. It's just the one robot used in that year.
01:18:15
Speaker
The robot assisted with zero investigations, zero, zero. It was all zeros. It helped with nothing. It did nothing. It got in my way I was trying to park. So they had patrolling the parking garage? Yeah. No, it's patrolling this, like, historic Dublin, this, like, area that's, like, you know, one of those, like, fancy walk-around areas. What was supposed to do? Like, under what circumstances would the dubbot have surveillance you know like why do they have but you know right but like here's but like that's why it was being Jewish and they're like well yeah it was this much but they're like we're we're hoping to get a reimbursement of like 67,000 for the robot we didn't use or whatever cheesy peats and it's just like yeah and it's like
01:19:08
Speaker
it's so It's just like if you want a reminder of why it is so important to vote in your local elections, right? No, but like it's funny that this – it's almost funny this money went to such waste, right, and on these – because anyone who's in the field, we know like that like that – like I could look at that.
01:19:28
Speaker
I don't work in robotics, and I could tell you that's not going to be used for much, yeah right? You know? Did it even play music like DJ Roomba? No, it wasn't. They're not, they're not fun like that. So like, well, like, and then I thought about imagine that, that one 28,000 is enough for a whole salary and benefits for one person, you know, for a whole year, for a whole year, they could have paid. so I know so many good people that just want to do good with their time, but they didn't like,
01:19:59
Speaker
doing good work doesn't pay, right? One person just got to spend a full time volunteering or just working on their passion charity. You know, there's so many people. And that also gives a job to a person over robot that didn't even do a job, right? And it's just like that. That's the real devastation, right? Is like the good, don't know. hurts me that it's like, think about a year. The opportunity cost them.
01:20:29
Speaker
fucking yeah this useless robot out there a of full-time hours right that someone could have worked and done good in and um so you know and they're just like well we' we're just trying out stuff but like anyone you can say that and i am someone you know loves who loves tech i've always been interested and in the latest tech now it's all ah like you know now it's all gone bad like everything else in the world but like But like, there's a point where you are an expert in your field and you're an expert in tech and you know if it's at the point to be trialing something that will actually be of use. in a In a different example of tech being useful, sorry, just bridging to something more hopeful. um
01:21:14
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You know, like the... Like, if you're, i I don't get into true crime because I'm already terrified of getting murdered randomly by people on the basis of things that have happened to me Okay. But, like, I'm always interested detectives and solving cases, right? And there's this cool thing that's come along where, like, people who've always worked in genealogy, which, like, sometimes it's like, you know, when people are trying to use bloodlines detect justify certain things that feels icky, but like, but there can be, but there can be a genuine interest in just the pursuit of it. There's this, like, there's a ah new field, like's like, of the last six years, that's of comparing right genetic
01:21:58
Speaker
lines to like Jane Doe to identify missing like people you know missing and murdered people ah from like even from really old cases that are finally getting solved because like internet sleuths and people tell like there are people who donate their spare time to like reconstructing faith, to using tech to like solve old crimes. And sure, there's a lot of problems. It's like the ones that are most known certainly is going to be some young white girl, right? Which is always a tragedy and terrible. But like, I never want to point out that like, we're looking at crimes and what gets solved and what gets unsolved. there's There's a lot of disparities, right? And where people care about preserving the evidence and stuff that allowed for the stuff to get solved later. But it's like tech can do good. And and and the people were solving it. Like this one story I heard about, like this person,
01:22:55
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heard the case and they volunteered their time and they knew those aren't people we give money to but we should not the robots anyway okay so that ended being too long we brought in parking garage and then post post post stuff yeah I enjoyed it all it was way more like monologue and preachy that I like meant when I started