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Everton vs Wolves - Match Reaction
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Chris & Nathan react to a dismal night at Goodison and attempt to string some coherent thoughts together in spite of all the madness.
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Introduction and Initial Reactions
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome in, everyone. My name is Chris. With me today is Nathan, and we are responding pretty much immediately after the 4-0 defeat away to Everton here at Daily Wolves. And I'm just going to say hi, Nathan, before we go any further. Hello.
00:00:29
Nathan
Hi Chris, hi everyone. I hope we're all breathing in well after that.
00:00:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we're breathing. We are here. They are size of exasperation, size of frustration. And yeah, I mean. what I've got so many, I know we've both got so many thoughts, ah so I'd just say I was watching that game like everyone else out there and at times head in my hands, you know, just not, if I'll be honest, I wasn't even, I'm not even shouting at the TV because it's just a sense of
00:01:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I wanted the whistle to blow at like 70 minutes. I wanted that game to be over because it was torture.
00:01:13
Nathan
Yeah.
00:01:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was just torture.
00:01:15
Nathan
Yeah.
00:01:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
And some of the the things that they were reeling out during that game, even before the first whistle when they said, oh, wolves have Everton haven't beaten wolves for like four years. And I was like, well, There you go.
00:01:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's going to be a win
Analysis of Everton's Dominant Win
00:01:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
for Everton. And then during the game, when they're reeling out things like they haven't scored in four games and here they're scoring like, you know, we just make them look like we either made Everton look like Manchester City because we were that bad and yet they are awful.
00:01:43
Nathan
Yeah.
00:01:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
And they, it was their biggest win at Goodison Park since 2020. And the first time that's or something or five years, the first time they scored four goals at Goodison Park since 2020, that was the one.
00:01:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean,
00:01:56
Nathan
yeah
00:01:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah You go, Nathan, because I'm i'm just lost.
00:02:00
Nathan
i
00:02:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm lost.
00:02:02
Nathan
It's a hard way to start on this one. I think there is countless amount of things that are so, so, so disappointing. I don't think there's... I mean, every time I think about a different element of how that game went, and you know if if we just rewind it back to before the game, we all we're always speaking about evidence, physicality.
00:02:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:02:24
Nathan
We were all talking about, you know, their main thing is how they're going to
Critique of Performance and Tactical Decisions
00:02:29
Nathan
get in your faces.
00:02:29
Nathan
They're going to pump the ball long. And we just, there was no, there was nothing that looked like we were prepared for anything that happened in that game.
00:02:42
Nathan
from the way we were set up from the first minute to the attitude defensively, ah going forwards, lacked imagination. It was a soulless performance. And I think in the context of this season, we needed our biggest performance. It was probably the biggest high pressure game, especially off the back of the defeat at the weekend. And I think we've probably produced our worst performance in the one where we needed the best.
00:03:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah and today for me more than anything there's it there's a couple of things one is it really looked like there's been other games where you feel like even when we've lost the players looked like they still had faith today everyone was shaking their heads and looking frustrated and looking vexed and it looked like it was just everyone looked confused and lost And on top of that, I mentioned after the last game that for me, when Lamina played at center back for the second time and he didn't look like, you like we, maybe we should have played a center back. I questioned it even before that game that I didn't want to see him there again, because that was an emergency situation. And I said,
00:03:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
that it looked like it was a chance for do um Gary Nill to just play all of the midfielders. Cause he didn't want to drop his captain, basically. And today we had three center backs, but Totti was on the bench and Lamina was at center back.
00:04:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I, even before the game, I looked at that and I was like, what, why, why ah do do you, do you, did you agree with that when that lineup came out? I was like, what is going on here?
00:04:19
Nathan
No, no not I thought it was a back four because I i saw the line up originally on um Instagram, I think it was.
00:04:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:27
Nathan
and my first thought was okay he's just gone flat back four with Doc Dawson ah Bueno and a Nori but obviously when it's been set up it's set up as a back three because he's and to be fair if we're going to try and get any positives out of it the Andre Gomez link up I mean Brazilian internationals there they are solid as a pair so I I understand why I want to keep them to the team.
00:04:51
Nathan
I just don't understand why he's still persistent with something that hasn't worked. And that's, I think, among the multitude of things that's so frustrating is with 10 minutes to go, Totti gets subbed on.
00:05:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh my gosh, yeah.
00:05:02
Nathan
well What, what, what? I don't know why that's just coming to my head, but why are you bringing?
00:05:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
That, yeah.
00:05:08
Nathan
in So we are at that point where we four or three, I think we have four nil down already, weren't we at that point?
00:05:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm, yeah.
00:05:14
Nathan
Anyway, it's not counting after a couple. And then, um, you bring Totti Gomez on as you and he somehow managed to look even more shaky than the guys that Bueno and Dawson put together.
00:05:29
Nathan
I mean um I don't get that substitution. Bueno didn't look like he had an injury and I mean that's just yeah by that point i was i was I was just so surprised by it and I didn't think anything else would surprise me in that game but
00:05:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Yeah.
00:05:45
Nathan
that managed to top it, I thought he was just going to throw on a bunch of forwards like he did against Bournemouth, but no, we're going to bring on Totti Gomez with 10 to go when we're 4-0 down away from home. Sound.
00:05:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I know that's majorly skipping forward, but that really did fry my brain because it was one thing where I was like, why, for me, it was just, why is Lamina again being stuck at center back when ah whatever Gary Neil thinks Tati did wrong or not on at the weekend.
00:05:56
Nathan
Great plan.
00:06:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just still don't think you should be playing Lemina out of position there when we saw how wayward he was at the weekend and just have the strength to drop the captain is is my gut feeling there.
Defensive Errors and Training Concerns
00:06:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it feels like he just doesn't want to do that and is persisting. And then like you say, the Serbs, Totti came on, Bueno went off, it and Dawson stayed on. Like, why not again, just if you if you're going to keep the back, through but I don't know. But like Dawson was the one who's lacking pace it looks like he's just completely is shot and i don't know i just don't i was i was racking my brain like you know i was so confused with everything that went on and we looked devoid of everything
00:06:53
Nathan
it's it and yet again yet again not being able to to defend from something from set pieces and long ball situations and it's not even like we've changed our approach we're still doing this so stupid like half zone or half challenge thing and the amount of free headers they had, they could have had three or four more goals from those direct situations.
00:07:20
Nathan
You know, and if we are, I mean, I'm sure we're going to break it down, but therefore goals. um it It's yeah, you get an award for which one was the most shambolic like it's it's it's a bit of a circus.
00:07:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
And let's not forget as well, it was 4-0. They had the ball in the net six times.
00:07:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Six times.
00:07:39
Nathan
Oh, yeah.
00:07:39
Nathan
Oh, yeah.
00:07:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if it wasn't for VAR, it would be 6-0. I mean, and they looked like they could score more. I mean, they blazed it over the bar two or three times when it was a golden opportunity.
00:07:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
i I haven't checked the XG. I've got the shots on goal stats and everything, but I mean, they they just looked literally like they could score a gazillion goals today. And we looked, they had 13 shots to our six, but it looked like they could have scored all 13 of them pretty much.
00:07:53
Nathan
Yeah.
00:08:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
it it It felt like that.
00:08:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
It just felt completely one way. And yeah somehow we had 55% possession. I don't know where, because it didn't feel like it. I'll be honest with you.
00:08:09
Nathan
Yeah.
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
And every time we got the ball, it felt like we just gave it away immediately.
00:08:23
Nathan
And every time Everton had the ball in any good positions and what they did was so direct. Every time they got it into their defensive third, they looked like they were going to score. They looked like they were going to get a shot on goal. They looked like something was going to happen because we just looked so leaky.
00:08:39
Nathan
We're, I don't even know how to find the words for this, but with with we're like, yeah, no words.
00:08:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:47
Nathan
We're just so bad at defending. It can't be, I don't know how to explain it. we We're scoring goals for the opposition. We're literally as solid as a bunch of twiglets at the back.
00:09:02
Nathan
I don't even know what to say.
00:09:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, the first goal, Ashley Young, free kick, and Merry Christmas. We made him, I believe, the oldest scorer of a free kick in the Premier League history. So another record against us, which is just fantastic.
00:09:14
Nathan
Yeah.
00:09:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're welcome. um And as I say, the first time that Everton have scored four at home in like four or five years. So again, you're welcome. um these are great christmas gifts that we're giving away to everyone and we you know sa bless him i gave him a little bit of benefit of the doubt from the weekend in the fact that you know a couple of the penalties weren't his fault and so gary and ill stuck with him fair enough but that free kick situation with the wall i mean that that's your bread and butter right is lining up the lining up the wall
00:09:48
Nathan
What are you doing?
00:09:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
not then having to moan afterwards that they're not in the right place. I mean, what that that's foundational.
00:09:55
Nathan
No. No. It's that is under seven stuff. You, you set it a tiny bit outside the post because footballs can be, you know, whipped round, curved.
00:10:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Curved. Yeah.
00:10:10
Nathan
Yeah. They're over floaty things. just just set just set a wall it's so basic and that's the thing that's the most worrying about about all of our defensive performances this season is how basic these mistakes are you know we can have debates about like the the complexities of um you know zone or not zone or three at the back four at the back but this stuff is get goal side don't mess about with it in dangerous areas mark your man this is stuff that
00:10:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:10:45
Nathan
I'll literally be trying to coach under nines tomorrow evening at football. And and it's it's just over and over again, which explains why we've conceded.
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:56
Nathan
It's 36 now this season.
00:10:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:10:59
Nathan
that it it's It's eye watering.
00:11:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's, yeah, it's, ter it's absolutely terrifying. And I mean, the second goal, uh, for Mangala, I mean, again, it's set piece second phase essentially, because it breaks to him on the outside of the box, several wolves players charged towards it. And I don't know if you noticed this, but to me, what was the weirdest thing was about it. Cause like Brenner was one of the ones that got closest, they all run towards it and then they all kind of dodge out of the way. Everyone leans.
00:11:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
as if to like put a leg up but they actually lean their bodies away from where the ball is going not towards where the ball is going it was the oddest thing if you look back i i was just like why is everyone it looked like they were scared of the ball almost and like leaning away from it rather than towards it i was just confused
00:11:46
Nathan
And the the but the bit that's not but that gets me on that one as well is the ball's come in and obviously it's come out to there. So Micalenko or the first player who's who's had an effort and then it's obviously bounced back out to Mangala again.
00:11:58
Nathan
So there's a couple of occasions there for the midfielders and the other attacking players to push out from that line.
00:12:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:12:06
Nathan
yet we're still stuck on the six-yard box as a bank of 11 players. i ah That is basic shape stuff. That's stuff that they are practicing and training or clearly not. You know you you practice a set-piece situation where defender gets the head of a way and then you push up. It's just what you do because you don't want to be on your own goal line. It's not a good position to be in.
00:12:30
Nathan
So, you know, I just don't understand why no one was pushing out. It is just so, so basic. What, what are we going to do? If the ball ends up outside the box for them, are we just going to stay on the six yard line?
00:12:41
Nathan
Like, cool. We're just chilling here. We've got a better chance of scoring and defending that position. of bucket it's It's insane.
00:12:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Pretty much. Yeah. And so, so yeah, the first half is two nil before we get on to, I mean, with, with those two atrocious situations, before we get onto the other goals and, and the second half and the aftermath, um, I'll just take a moment.
00:13:02
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00:13:16
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00:13:31
Nathan
every day.
00:13:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah So at halftime, Nathan, I'm thinking, all right, I mean, we are woeful, but there's still, you know, again, there's the remotest, remotest possibility, because we are or were like, you know, the fifth highest scorers in the Premier League, whatever it is that we can, and we've come back from, you know, bigger deficits before we could, we could still fight for a draw, potentially with the right team talk with the right, you know, change in formation or whatever we do. And then,
00:14:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know what's happened at halftime, but I mean, Lamina was pushed forward, right? It seemed, and and then they've gone to four at the back, but it made no difference.
00:14:12
Nathan
Yeah.
00:14:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if anything, we just seemed more atrocious.
00:14:21
Nathan
The thing is, is with with the lack of basics and the defense not being able to do the basics at the minute, does it doesn't matter if you've got four at the back, five at the back, 10 at the back, it doesn't matter.
00:14:32
Nathan
If you've not got players that are able to challenge for headers, if you haven't got players that are able to pick up Tarkovsky and Calvert-Lewin, these guys, like you see them from about a kilometer away, walking up to the box for the corner.
00:14:46
Nathan
They're huge. Just pick them up. it's it's so so simple so no matter what formation we've got if we can't do that we're going to concede four every week which is what we were pretty much doing at the minute um so it's yeah and yeah i don't know what's going on for the third i mean dawson's in a rich rain of scoring form you know he's on a hatchery
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
We are, yeah. Yeah.
00:15:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean, wow. Yeah, to poor old Dawson. I mean, two own goals today, 49th minute. I mean, again, it's a ball into the box and it's, it's, it's just another, another basic goal scored against us.
00:15:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. And then, and then just when you think it can't get any worse, 72nd minute, again, Dawson own goal. I mean, um, there, but I've just forgotten his name there.
00:15:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Striker, what's his name that has like.
00:15:37
Nathan
How about living?
00:15:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he said like two or three goals disallowed in this one game alone.
00:15:41
Nathan
Yeah.
00:15:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
the I feel sorry for him. And Dawson's probably praying that they actually gave him the goals because they should do, to be fair.
00:15:47
Nathan
Yeah.
00:15:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it should have been more. Quite frankly, Everton should have won by more.
00:15:53
Nathan
yeah Yeah, I mean the amount of times that they were able to just easily wander their cell wander into our box and half the time it was from situations that they should never be getting out of, the one that springs to mind. I don't know why um I keep focusing on Totti Gomez, but you know they've they've got Totti Gomez with Broha, I think, who came on, their striker, in the corner flag, back to goal, you know eight Nori and Totti Gomez around him.
00:16:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. Yeah.
00:16:16
Nathan
that is the ideal situation defensively he can't go anywhere or can he and then it just sort of they mess it up and then they're in in the box and they square it and Harrison luckily doesn't have a right foot and smash it over the bar but it's just like that that was one example of a long ball that's not being able to deal with it them getting out of space that they should never be getting out of
00:16:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah.
00:16:39
Nathan
and create an opportunity out of it and it was like that for the whole 90 minutes and as you said we were quite lucky to come away with only four
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean, ah like in that situation, it seems like a lack of spatial awareness and everyone getting so focused on one thing, you know, like you say, Tottie's got the guy pinned essentially, eight nor he comes to join in, but doesn't pay attention to someone else coming in behind him and the balls flicked behind.
00:17:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
and And so he's free. ah There's no, there's no sense of awareness around the danger, you know, of who's, who's overlapping, who's tracking back.
00:17:12
Nathan
No.
00:17:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
And,
00:17:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just like you say, whether it's four, whether it's five, it's making no difference.
00:17:16
Nathan
No, it's.
00:17:22
Nathan
I mean, look, I'm sure I'm sure we're going to going to get onto this, but everyone's obviously calling for for Gary O'Neill to get the sack and lots of the fans that were there were were aiming some of those chants towards him about, you know, getting sacked in the morning and that sort of stuff. um That's one thing that I do think obviously he does pick the team and he's the one who's kind of orchestrated all these poor performances but the players I mean today I was at a time recording this were woeful they were really really bad and when it's basic stuff like as you said spatial awareness or
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:18:00
Nathan
follow follow the guy who you're marking, that sort of stuff. It can't that can't go down to Gary O'Neill, you know, the the certain elements of substitutions and tactical changes. And I understand that he obviously sets the tone in the dressing room, but that sort of basic stuff, you've got to have a bit of pride, surely. You're a Premier League footballer, you've you've got to have a little bit of, yeah, pride, I guess.
00:18:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah, you do. And, you know, we we said at the weekend, there's certain things that the manager can't
Inconsistency in Tactics and Striker Performance
00:18:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
account for. You can't ah account for Dawson not looking up and passing it back to the goalie in a place where he really shouldn't, you know, and all season long players have made various mistakes that you just can't account for.
00:18:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
but there still remains that consistency issue of, you know, set pieces, like you say, pushing out and and and just the tactical formations and this in inconsistency with who's played in the back, what formation we're going to play, the inability to choose what the centre midfield is going to be, because yeah I genuinely feel there's this decision of like, I can't drop the captain going on, i've And the today just validated that for me because there was no need for me for the meaner to be in that spot again.
00:19:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely not.
00:19:20
Nathan
ah
00:19:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And just so outside of those. those personal errors that people are making, there's, this has gone on. This is me saying this.
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
This just feels like it, something needs to change because it it's now, it's now getting ridiculous.
00:19:36
Nathan
Yeah.
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's getting, we are ah becoming ridiculous. Like we are, we are ridiculous.
00:19:42
Nathan
Yeah. I mean, the the the pundits and everyone is talking, sort of the neutrals, talking about how excited we are to watch because of how many goals we've been scoring as well.
00:19:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:52
Nathan
um And to be fair, there are always goals in the games that but we're involved in. But today today, the strikers had an off day, right? like I mean, scoring two against Bournemouth when we had a shocking performance is is good.
00:20:04
Nathan
A good attacking performance from them, I should say. ah against Everton, they they were bullied at times and and didn't look as good going forwards, but it's that's when, as a striker, you're hoping that your defensive midfield are putting in a good performance to keep that scoreline even and make it one of those scrappy games. That's that's fully what I was expecting or hoping for, I'd say. In the end, it just turned into a complete schooling of how to play basic football.
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah.
00:20:35
Nathan
just just constant constant basic stuff the amount of times that we saw our center halves crossing paths or crossing each other when they're going to sort of cover the opposite channel that's just like where are you going it's not that's not your area of the pitch so there's a yeah there's countless amount of basic areas in there and
00:20:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:59
Nathan
Yeah, I did feel sorry again for Strand Larson, to be fair, because he was isolated up top. He got, and the center off, roughed him up, and they they did a good job of him, to be fair, but he really didn't have any help. And Cunha, again, was was not almost non-existent at times.
00:21:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, the and let you say the, there was times when the, you know, the both center backs going for the same person, they were almost like but one was a shadow of the other at points to leave a massive acres of space for someone else to run in behind.
00:21:16
Nathan
so
00:21:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it was just really confusing me. And, but at times this season, the strikers have, you know, overachieved, if you like, with the amount of goals they've scored and and the forward play, there's going to be games where they don't, you know, we, we're not, they're not always going to score as many goals as they have been.
00:21:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
so we can't we can't rely on that week in week out it's a tough league even against Everton you can't rely that we're always going to score two three goals to to beat a team we just can't be giving away goals like this
00:21:55
Nathan
Yeah. we're We're not a team that can rely on outscoring opposition teams because we're conceding about 15 a
Acknowledging Everton's Strengths and Potential Managerial Changes
00:22:04
Nathan
game. So, yeah, shop shop first. And that's obviously, Sean Dyches has worked on that. They've they had four really poor games back to back and they've obviously identified this one same as us. It's a massive six pointer and they clearly worked on their solidity defensively.
00:22:24
Nathan
Cause that's all it was. They were just solid. Everton are a, are a basic, ah they've got a basic squad, right? They don't have a huge amount of internationals. They don't have a massive amount of a lot of the players that they've got are rejects from other clubs and decent sort of Premier League journeymen. So they're not a team that we should be afraid of. And two, three seasons ago, and as you were saying, that record against Everton recently has been pretty good.
00:22:51
Nathan
purely for the reason that as a club, I think our squad and players have been of a a high calibre and producing good performances. But this season, we're seeing a complete switch of that. And I don't think we, you know, we've got to give them some credit because they've just more completely battered us.
00:23:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah. And i ah maybe in a day or two, the thoughts I'm having will be more coherent because right now it is a little bit of a just a um a rambling vent because we've just we've literally just watched the game and you know it's all very frustrating.
00:23:19
Nathan
I blurb.
00:23:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think the biggest the biggest thing really that we've seen, as a but that we will see as a result of this is obviously yeah Everyone pretty much now, I think across the board, is saying that that is based on this. That's two games back to back conceding four goals where both times they could have scored more. Without VAR they would have scored more today. Add to that before the unbeaten run of four, some of the other performances where we've just shipped so many goals.
00:23:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, it is surely now, this is the time where most people are thinking there's got to be a change made. This, this is the end, right? That's, I don't see how a club can go on this run of form in such massive, massive games and then not make a change at the top.
00:24:17
Nathan
Yeah.
00:24:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
is Surely I, do you, what what do you think? Do you think that this is the end for Gary and Neil?
00:24:27
Nathan
if If this isn't the end, then ten what is? i what
00:24:34
Nathan
What more? another Another couple of games where we give the opponents three, four, maybe give them five next time?
00:24:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mmhmm.
00:24:43
Nathan
I don't know. like what what What else? what What is Jeff, she, and whoever else is making those decisions? What what are they envisaging to be better? um i I get that they met might be waiting or wanting to to have the the right guy to bring in afterwards, but There's a few decent managers out there.
00:25:04
Nathan
I think we covered it in a previous episode the out of a job and The new manager bounce is a thing ah when the manager is someone who's organized and coming in with fresh ideas it does revitalize teams and we we're getting to a point where There's there's already now a three-point gap right between the bottom three and and the 17th so
00:25:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep. We.
00:25:29
Nathan
we need to really really think about when it is that there's a point of no return and I think if that gap keeps growing because ourselves Ipswich and Southampton have comfortably been
00:25:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:25:42
Nathan
underperforming you know i mean they can they can get a bit of a sort of less slack because they've just come up but yeah it's our performance levels have been absolutely shocking so you know i mean i'd have to say ah one there's only there's one small positive that i managed to get out of the game i don't know if you heard it
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:02
Nathan
but it was some of the m some of the chants that um that were going round.
00:26:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Oh.
00:26:08
Nathan
The Wolves fans were coming up with some of the old school chants, so we heard a bit of Diko Afobisako. We heard a bit of, we've got Neves, we all like that one.
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I heard this one of those Steve Ball songs at the moment at one point.
00:26:19
Nathan
We got a bit of a Yeah, we had C Señor, obviously.
00:26:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:26:25
Nathan
um We even had, and this shows, this shows, you know, we're still having, we might be going down, but we're having a fun time.
00:26:32
Nathan
E-Banger's Blake is Wanderer's number nine. I haven't heard that in so, so long.
00:26:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:26:39
Nathan
um But yeah, so all of that was coming out. I just thought, I just thought I'd try and brighten things up with that one.
00:26:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, as always, fair play to the away fans. And I've, I mean, if you've paid all that money today to go midweek. to Everton to watch that, to watch that game and that performance from your team. I mean, i I'm sorry. um um I feel so bad for you um because that's a lot of it's a lot of money and that's the that's why these decisions have even more impact, right? Because we this summer
00:27:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know the prices went up that was a big deal that was a huge deal anyway and now people are paying you know essentially Champions League prices for for this performance and that's why these
00:27:30
Nathan
for champion championship performance.
00:27:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. And that's why these performances are just unacceptable across the board. And I've been arguably the most kind of, you know, uh, I wouldn't say a defender of Gary Neil, cause I don't think I've necessarily defended him, but the most like lenient with,
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
how long we wait.
Set-Piece Defense Issues and Coaching Questions
00:27:53
Nathan
That's a fair statement, that's a fair statement.
00:27:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
But for me, that performance on top of the previous game and just the fact that we're not seeing improvements in some of the areas we mentioned in terms of like just set pieces and basic foundational stuff and and this inescapable inability to just solidify the team into a set formation I almost feel that maybe maybe he's like this he's got this thing of changing the team so it can shift in the middle of a game to like a four and a three and but whatever it is and the teams do it.
00:28:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I sometimes think maybe it's just too much. you know just Maybe they're almost too lost because they don't know week in week out what their role is and what they're meant to do.
00:28:40
Nathan
Yeah.
00:28:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think it almost does call for someone, if if it's not someone, you know, like Potter or whoever to come in afterwards, if they make the decision to move on from Gary O'Neill, even if it is someone just like David Moyes for a season, just to say like, look, till next summer, keep us up and come in and do the, because he's someone in old school who just come in and do the basics, like solidify and do what you need to do.
00:28:59
Nathan
Yeah.
00:29:04
Nathan
Yeah.
00:29:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if you can keep us up, great.
00:29:09
Nathan
Look, I mean, if, we we found out that we're we are shocking at the defending set pieces two months ago,
00:29:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:17
Nathan
maybe longer. So if if it was new problems, if each week, ah this time we're getting beat by long balls, next week it's set pieces, the week after that they're cutting through the midfield. If it was a different problem and we were always changing and trying to patch things up and actually the teams were beating us tactically and each time there was a different weakness, you'd go, okay, well, at least we can see that there's I don't know where I'm going with this but at least we can see that there's somewhat some change but for two months now we've known that we're bad at defending set pieces. We've known that this is something that is so blatant for everyone to see and opposition teams are obviously setting up to try and exploit that so
00:30:02
Nathan
Why are we not setting up? To defend it like I don't this is where I don't get it what what is the coaching that's going on? What what is the? the instruction behind and the application of it from the players up Surely when they get to corners that I write we need to switch on here boys because we've been bad at defending these in previous weeks But it actually looks like they all say to each other. I just relax here guys We never concede from these ones
00:30:32
Nathan
but That's genuinely the body language and the the attitude that we're watching. When a cross comes in and the first ball gets cleared out, push out. It's basic. You know, and and for players that are so experienced like Dawson in there and like Dotty, these guys know that.
00:30:48
Nathan
It's when they need to step up. It's Wes Sar, who's also an experienced goalkeeper. We can't keep making excuses for him. He needs to step up. when you've got when When they've got a free kick on the edge of our box, set your wall up so that the wall can stop the free kick.
00:31:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah but but Before a final few rants and points, I need to just, you know, calm us down for a second and take a moment to tell everyone that, you know, here when we were deciding how we were going to vent and and rant at you, you know, every time we release an episode, um we did spend a lot of time selecting our delivery platform and Zencaster came out a clear winner.
00:31:05
Nathan
Maybe, you know, wild shell.
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00:31:30
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00:31:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I just, and I think, and yeah, like it's this thing of players, how are the players, ah we saw that new manager bump you spoke about last season with Gary and Neil, arguably, obviously there's a lot of doom and gloom around Lopategi.
00:32:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
that doom and gloom lifted Gary Neil got the high of that. It feels now more than ever like Gary Neil got the high of the gloom lifting from lock the tegue and the morale boost ah that that new manager bump brings.
00:32:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cause he was very much a confidence person, but now
00:32:15
Nathan
Mmhmm.
00:32:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean it feels like, like we mentioned the other day, if you're Bueno and Totti and being benched for, you know, a midfielder to come in and play your spot, how does, how is that making you feel? And then you sub, like we mentioned that substitution earlier, Bueno comes off.
00:32:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, and Lamina still there. How is that? How, how are the center backs feeling that the we're losing by that many goals? And he's still keeping a midfielder there over a center back. And I get that it's not all in Lamina, but my point is about like.
00:32:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
the how how does that affect the cohesion of the squad and who's playing like who how they feel and how does lamina feel about being made to play over the position of the centre back obviously publicly he's saying it's fine but he's looking exasperated how does that feel as captain to be to be thinking looking at the bench and thinking there's two centre backs on there and i'm playing here
00:33:18
Nathan
Yeah, it's, it, it must be such a toxic place that change room at the minute. And it's so, it's crazy how fast things can change in the, in the prem and how we've gone, you know, we're three or four episodes ago when we were talking off the back of a four game unbeaten streak.
00:33:36
Nathan
That feels like years ago now, but you know, and then within two games, you've yeah, cool.
00:33:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but like you said at the time, sorry, you said at the time, I'm pretty sure you said something like I'm worried that the some of those performances were flukes. And and more than ever that's seeming true now to give you credit there, because it it it does feel like you have, obviously you've got this many quality players in your, because there is like individually, there is quality throughout the squad.
00:33:48
Nathan
Yeah.
00:34:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
enough, you know, 30, 40 performances at some point, whoever you are, you're going to get some wins or some draws just through the sheer percentages, right? Because you've got decent players who can like, can you can score ah a worldly from 25 yards, whatever it is, yeah you've got things that will happen. But but the consistency is showing through that maybe though that is just a fluke.
00:34:28
Nathan
Yeah. Yeah. And I think that the main thought in my head right now is things have to change before, before, no matter what we do, we won't have enough time to actually make that change. I think now it's like time is of the essence and we really need to start thinking and as a club, they need to make decisions so that whoever does come in, if they do come in, has the time to change things because we're coming on to halfway through the season now and as we're saying there's already a three-point gap the more that gap gets bigger the more the the toxicity around the club is just going to keep getting fueled and at the minute rightfully so as fans we're all very unhappy and it's being heard and it's got
00:35:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:17
Nathan
ah It's got sort of that reminiscence of the sort of 2012, 2013 years when how toxic the club was and how badly we were doing in the championship and the Premier League before that. And it I just really hope it doesn't turn that sour. And if they are going to sack Gary O'Neill, make sure there's someone else to come in because, you know, the guys that are with him are also part of the problem. So, yeah.
00:35:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, by by the time you all hear this, um as we record it tomorrow morning, this is going to go out on Thursday morning. I mean, who knows if by then we will have heard any news or by the time you listen to this, maybe there'll be some news from the club on Well, either silence with no news or or a decision being announced.
00:36:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah To give some precedence to that, I mean, ah in our WhatsApp group, I posted a picture of the corner flag like halfway through the second half of the the game today, because ah just as a sign that I even I'm like, no, it's enough.
00:36:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, I think like a lot.
00:36:26
Nathan
yeah
00:36:28
Nathan
You actually posted four different corner flags, didn't you?
00:36:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I did hear welcome.
00:36:31
Nathan
was that that That's how much you wanted him gone.
00:36:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah but I mean come on in the last like month or so alone whatever it is and you know we've conceded five to Brentford you know and then we've before that obviously the sixth to Chelsea four to Bournemouth now four to Fulham I mean it It just, it it just doesn't warrant thinking about.
00:36:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I'm now, yeah, there's gotta be something done. So maybe we'll hear something tomorrow. Maybe by the time we next get together, Nathan, and we'll, you know, maybe, maybe who who knows who knows, who knows what the future holds.
00:37:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's gotta be upwards.
00:37:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Surely it has to be upwards from here. No, no, no. and
00:37:09
Nathan
yeah surely surely surely the only way well well I was going to say the only way is up but we're not actually bottom them so
00:37:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, that's true. So yeah, room room to go. um
Conclusion and Future Outlook
00:37:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Any any um final thoughts you want to add, Nathan? Because I feel like I could just ramble at everyone for a lot longer with absolute nonsense, but it won't be very coherent. so
00:37:36
Nathan
Blake is wanderers number nine
00:37:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
to be To be fair to him, that's it he he was and fantastic, but as we mentioned, I think Strandlarson is, you know,
00:37:38
Nathan
That's all I've got to say.
00:37:50
Nathan
Australian Larson is better than Ebags Blade. Don't get me wrong. i'm not um i'm not trying I'm just trying to glorify the at the atmosphere of um of the that that chant today.
00:37:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. Lighten, yeah.
00:38:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I will say, yeah, I was so gutted that there was a chance, like, I think in the first few minutes before they scored their first, where Ryan 8-0, he got a ball into Larson, like really early on. And he just kind of, I think, caught it on his ankle or his shin, and it went completely, like, just wayward.
00:38:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it was, of all, like, he's been banging them in those those moments so well. And you just thought, well, for a moment, I was like, any other time he probably would have scored that. And then that one moment was it, and then it was all gone.
00:38:17
Nathan
Yeah.
00:38:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
maybe that was that that could have been the term but That was a turning point that was like, no, this night is not going to work.
00:38:37
Nathan
Yeah.
00:38:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, guys um guys and girls, it's time for us to go to bed, get some sleep, and hopefully dream.
00:38:39
Nathan
Yeah.
00:38:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe we'll think it was all the dream by the time we wake up tomorrow, and by the time you listen to this, and keep an eye on those wolves' social feeds for some news, perhaps.
00:38:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who knows?
00:38:56
Nathan
Yeah, who knows.
00:38:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And ah despite the fact that there is room to go a couple more places down the table, I will just try and end it with the way I always do to remind everyone that out of darkness come a flight.