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Ep 23: Our Favorite Vampire Movies
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Today we are talking about Felicia's fav topic...VAMPIRES.
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Introduction to Sinister Sisters Podcast
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What's up, weirdos? Welcome back to the Sinister Sisters podcast. I'm Felicia. And I'm Lauren. And we're best friends. And we talk about scary movies. And that's it.
Episode Focus: Vampires
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That's it. Today we are talking about vampires. Yes. Which I'm very excited about. It's also going to be our last episode in October.
Challenges of Editing Video Content
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So the last time you get to see our faces unless you tell us in the comments that you're freaking obsessed with it And then we'll continue it on for November, but like let us know like be vocal let us know Because I am enjoying doing it, but it's you know, it's more work. It's more work, but especially for Felicia editing a video. Oh, it's fine Okay, so today we're talking about vampires very very exciting stuff. I have prepared some research and
Research Inspiration: 'Stranger Than a Podcast'
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Most of it comes from a podcast called Stranger Than a Podcast. Do you see this notebook? Do you see this? Do you see his notes? I did so bad on the witch episode. Not so bad. So... Freeform. Freeform!
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improv improv I didn't do enough research for the which episode and all of you were Very nice and did not point it out and I was shocked at all of you But a couple of that we didn't mention in the which episode which I really wish I had were Suspiria I know so sad so sad both spirits and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, which feels like a disservice to which is everywhere to not mention But now I have
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We've mentioned it. We've mentioned it. So today we're doing vampires.
Bizarre Experience at 3 a.m.
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Oh, before we even get to vampires, Laura and I realized this evening that last night, this is freaking weird.
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It's actually scary and I got chills again. I got chills, I almost started crying and I don't know why. I'm very emotional right now, but I literally started tearing up and I was like, please you stop it. And my chest got red and I was like, please you shut your emotions. Last night, both of us woke up at 3 a.m. on the dot.
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with a leg cramp in our right leg. Was yours your right leg? Yes. Yes. And also, we are both incredible sleepers. I never wake up. We never wake up. Yeah. We never wake up for no one, not nobody, no, no. Wow. That's right. But really truly, I started being like, oh, I woke up last night. I had this really bad leg cramp, and it's still hers today. And then I was like, oh, I got a leg cramp. Do you get to start with that? You said, I woke up at 3 AM last night, and I said,
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And then I said, I had a leg cramp. And I said, I had a leg cramp. And it was very weird. So that means we're both dehydrated. Yeah, that's what Travis says. Which I'm sure is true, but also the faculty both woke up at 3am on a very specific day.
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It's like somebody let us know if anything was going on in the universe. We're recording this early, so I'll just tell you today is October 16th. So if anything was happening at 3 a.m. on October 16th, please let us know. Please let us know. I think it was really freaky. Okay. Or maybe we're witches. On the podcast, if you're just listening, you didn't get to see our very strong expressions. Okay.
Vampires in Mythology
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So a little bit of vampire history before we get into movies if that's okay once again the stuff this History stuff I got from the stranger than podcast highly recommend you listen to it because it isn't much better than whatever I'm about to say So in that podcast they talked about sort of like the beginning mythology of vampires having a lot to do with women and a lot to do with women eating babies specifically which I think is interesting and
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Um, I think that's a couple of things. One, because, uh, women are, were, have been inherently distrusted since the beginning of time, um, thought to have like evil powers. Um, and I'm just saying, you're right. You're right. We woke up at 3 AM. We woke up at 3 AM. Um, and also a lot of children died very young throughout history. I wonder if it's something about periods. I just have that thought. Maybe periods.
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Don't know we're real bloody. We're real bloody people you see And so that is an interesting one to start also. There are some like Well, the first one that they mentioned is Lilith who was Adam's first wife who was banished from the Garden of Eden She had like a bajillion children Ate a bunch of babies and is used in a lot of like satanic mythology as well Not in my Catholic Bible not in Lawrence Catholic Bible, but in like other stuff
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I don't know that much about that, so I'm going to keep going. Another one that is just interesting, because I've also heard about this Hindu goddess, another place as well, but Kali, who drinks the blood of her enemies and men. That's actually what I'm doing right now. Oh my god. The blood of my enemies? Yes.
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but mostly men. But mostly men. And I know a little bit about Kali because I went to a very interesting lecture on Satanism in like culture and media, which was like very cool. It was from that like
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I'm going to link it down below because I can't remember the name of the institute. It starts at the end. It's difficult for me to pronounce. I'm magical Mr. Mistoffelees. That's it! But it was a very interesting lecture, but they talked about Kali and that as well. And just sort of about these female figures that drink blood.
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So, but the first sort of vampire story is a Greek one, which I think makes sense because all the original stories seem to be Greek.
Greek Myth of Ambrosio and Celine
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But this starts out with an Italian man. My favorite. Lauren Lowe's an Italian man. And I am Italian. And Lauren is Italian. And okay, so basically this is the love story of Ambrosio and Celine. So buckle up, because I'm going to tell this
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Probably kind of wrong, but I'm going to do this. So Ambrogio is a, so he's Italian dude. He's on a boat. He goes to Greece. He wants to meet the Oracle at Delphi. Delphi. Somebody tell us. And he meets with this Oracle and the Oracle's like, let me read it.
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There's gonna be a curse, something about the moon. The blood's gonna run. That's what she says in those exact words. Very clear. Very clear. And he's like, oh, okay, well, that sucks. Goes outside the temple and then runs into Celine, who is the Oracle's sister, and they fall madly in love.
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Celine Dion. Celine Dion, specifically. So because this is mythology, the gods want to be involved in whatever's going on, so Apollo is mad. I don't know why he's mad or why he's involved in this specific story. He has a lot of investment in Celine. He has a lot of investment in Celine, apparently, but he's pissed. So he curses, Apollo curses Ambrogio and says that from
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henceforth on or whatever the sun is going to burn your skin so he can only come out at nighttime which gives us of course the nocturnal parts of a vampire
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I just think I just realized I haven't researched or found in my research was where like the bat mythology comes from. If anybody knows anything about that, please let us know in the comments. Okay. Um, so that's the first part is the, uh, he can only walk at nighttime. So he's in this cave, like really sad, bummed out because he can't see Celine anymore because of course Celine's awake during the daytime and apparently they just couldn't figure out their schedules. Um, and so Hades is there in this cave and Hades is like, Oh, and Brozier, you seem so sad.
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And he's like, well, my love Celine. And he's like, oh, well, I have a deal for you. If you can steal Artemis's bow and bring it to me, then I will let you and Celine come chill in the underworld world in hiding and love each other here forever.
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And he's like, okay, great. So he goes to Artemis. There's some other stuff in here about some swans and him killing some swans and writing letters with the swan's blood. I kind of don't remember that part. So we're just going to gloss over it. We're just going to ice skate right over it and move on to the next part.
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Which is, he goes to steal Artemis's bow. He gets it. Good for him. But Artemis is, of course, a god. And she's like, no. And so she curses him that he can no longer touch silver. It will burn his hands. Burn anything he touches at silver. And so he drops the bow immediately. And now we have sort of this thing where in a lot of, I'm going to say mostly Eastern European, but it's probably more than that too.
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There's a lot of folklore, and not just folklore, just documentation of bodies being dug up and them having iron stakes through them to keep the body held down. And so through the very little research I did, the understanding I have is that it's a lot of people not understanding exactly how death works, a lot of people being buried alive, a lot of people having, so sometimes after people die they have twitches and
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Can't even make noise because of the their system is still sort of working. I know it's kind of icky to think about But poop coming out poop coming out all kinds of horrible things horrible things Which is why we probably have such we have wakes now and just keep them in that box a while outside the ground Make sure they're dead Sorry learn But it is interesting that this created enough of a Fear that the dead were coming back to life
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Okay. Um, and so he's like, and Burji was like, Oh, but here's my love story. And artists is like, Oh, okay. I see. Uh, well I have a deal for you. Another deal. And he says, I, or she says, I will give you the strength and speed of the gods. You will be immortal and I will give you fangs. And I can't remember why the fangs were a thing, but that's what the podcast told me. And I believed in them because they sounded very smart. Um, and,
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But and you will get oh you'll get all these things And you'll get Celine, but you have to promise that you will only worship me as a God forever and ever just me and He's like she's right and she goes also you can't sleep with each other. I don't know why that is And he's like sure whatever I can do to be with Celine That doesn't sound like a real guy
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And so, they are together, they are happy for many years. Selena's in for a hug. She thinks my heart will go on. She thinks my heart will go on over and over and over again until he's like...
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I think we should see other people. I'm just kidding. That doesn't happen. But what happens is, which we see in many a vampire story, is that Ambrogio gets old. I mean, Ambrogio stays the same, and Celine gets old. She gets older. Classic vampire love story. Exactly. And so he's like, hey, Artemis, this is not going to work. She's going to die, and I'm going to be really sad. And so she's like, OK.
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Here's what we'll do. You can go touch Celine. You can feed her your blood. She will then become immortal and you can live forever together. And that's what happens. Celine says, yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy. Yes, exactly. Delicious. And that's sort of the origin of the vampire story in Greek mythology. The real question is like, was then she immortal at 80?
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which is such a bummer than the story that we get all the time, which is you get, if you're not vampire by 18, you're too old. You're too old. So, now, the next bit of vampire stuff is gonna come out of the 1897 novel by Bram Stoker, which is of course Dracula.
Historical Influences on Vampire Lore
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oh very nice thank you i practiced so this is the story of um dracula he is uh based off of vlad the impaler supposedly um and vlad the impaler uh was this really angry dude that killed
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According to some like 200,000 people, which just seems like a lot of people. A lot of people. With his own hands? No. No, it was a lot of war. So a lot of that. He also probably was exaggerating because he's like a man and he's just going to be like, I killed so many people.
00:12:41
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It was really ten. It was really ten people, but he's called Vlad the Impaler because he likes to torture his victims And you know show off the dead bodies that he would you know make dead. The Impaler situation came from he would stick a steak inside someone's butt and hoist him up so the body would slowly come down onto the onto the steak until they died
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So that's a bummer. I hope that never happens to you. So that's Vlad the Impaler. There's a lot more really gross torture stuff you can look up about him, but I don't feel like going into right now. But I'm sure it's all on that Wikipedia page if you want to see. And then the last bit of, I think,
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This is like outside of Dracula, but that we got a lot of our mythology from is Elizabeth Bathory. Did I just say her name wrong again? That sounds right. It was, okay. Elizabeth Bathory, who she was basically royalty, high nobility, royalty, unclear, but she liked to kill little girls from ages 10 to 14.
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and she would torture them and kill them. Her whole staff was in on it. It was really fucked up. Once again, if you want to look up that torture stuff all over the internet, I think there's sort of a Miss Hannigan situation. Kind of, but much worse. There's also, I think there's like a couple of movies about her as well, but I don't know them. We'll check that out. Let's check it out. And then she's also the one that is famous for bathing in blood.
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But you over that there's like there's like some famous paintings of like a woman bathing in blood and it's it's her I mean, maybe I'll try it. Yeah. I mean apparently makes these very young and pretty. Okay, so I'm open So oh and she you know, she did get put on trial eventually but because she's royalty nothing really bad happened to her But she was just put on house arrest in her castle until she died. Oh
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The end. But, Sue, from there I think we can sort of move on to...
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Movies. Movies. Oh, and also, I just want to say, in addition to the iron stakes being in people's body, they would also, a lot of times, see piles of stones on top of bodies or stones stuffed into bodies, which is really gross, but just to make sure that people... Keep them down. Yeah, exactly. To make sure that they're coming back up after they were supposedly dead.
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Which was a big problem for many many years until very recently which is very stressful to think about.
Evolution of Vampires in Cinema
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Okay, now we're in a movie. So first vampire movie, most people know this, 1922 German film, Nosferatu. Incredible. Incredible. I said incredible. It's incredible, I was like yes, a very good documentation.
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But that is very famous and that's a picture of the vampire comes up in many many many things even actually I was recently thinking about the season one of Buffy The evil dude in that at the end of the season looks very much like nose brought to you has a lot of very similar things going on um and Of course Lauren wants to mention
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Oh, I mentioned Felicia before we started recording, that Nosferatu I always think of in the Spongebob episode. There's a spooky Spongebob episode where at the end they all go, Nosferatu. And it's very cute. And it shows Nosferatu. That was my first. And also, sorry, but also the end of, um, or the Gur-Arg production company that makes
00:16:26
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Joss Whedon's stuff. Oh, yeah. He looks very much like Nosferatu as well. Totally. Anyways, so the first, so that's 1922. 1924 Dracula, the novel gets turned into a play. And then from there, I don't know what happened until 1931. So a little blank space of time. If you want to fill it in, go for it. 1931, we have the Belle Lugosi Dracula.
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And this, as far as my understanding, seems to be the first clear imagery we get of Dracula in a recorded state that we still hold onto today, which is of course the cape, the widow's peak, slicked back hair, the fangs, the pale skin, the Transylvanian accent.
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and all of those things sort of give us that first imagery and I even think up to like yes vampires have gotten quite a twist on them in the last maybe 20 years but even I remember like my brother dressing up as a vampire at Halloween and he was very much the Dracula like that is the the vampire costume
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So after that, we have someone else taking on the role. We have Christopher Lee in the Hammer film, Horror of Dracula, from 1958. And I think starting here and continuing on, vampires start to get a little bit sexier over time.
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And I particularly think it makes sense as we started this whole thing with a love story of Ambrosio and Celine, I think it sort of makes sense. But that seems to be the most notorious thing about vampires is that it's always a love story. There's always a lot of lust in vampire movies. Bloodlust. So they're young and beautiful. Yes, sometimes they sparkle, all those things.
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So after that, we have some more. I'm just skipping a bunch of movies that I'm sorry. But we have Brides of Dracula from 1960. We have 1979's Salem's Lots.
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Lauren, I haven't seen it. We don't want to talk about it. Don't shame us. Don't shame us. We have 1979s. Actually, a bunch of stuff from 1979 in particular. I always think it's interesting when one year has a lot of one kind of movie. Totally. And which I feel like also happens sort of all the time. I don't know if we talked about this in a different podcast. But The Monsters and the Addams Family premiered the same week on TV. It's crazy. Stuff like that is so weird. So in this one, we had a few vampire films come out.
00:18:58
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Salem's that we have a nose for all to the vampire which is a German film and then we have the Franklin Jell-a Dracula from 1979 which I did watch and it was really I loved it. Yeah, I watched it this week. It was great. Is it campy? No No, it's not can't be It was great and So and that's and also interestingly enough. I feel like Frank Langella is the one
00:19:27
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that I remember the most. And I don't know why that is. I don't know why that is. And then we also get some of that same Dracula energy speaking up in the mustards in the Adam Stanley, particularly the slicked back widow's peak hair seems to be a real spooky thing. Makes people look spooky. Okay, continuing on a little bit. A film that I didn't actually finish yet, but I started last night, and that is The Hunger from 1983.
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David Bowie Susan Sarandon. Come on people dreamcast Editing very weird. That's like what I noticed that I was watching it I'm only like half an hour in and the editing is like the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Wait, what year is this? 1983 If it was almost was this his first acting role, maybe He's upset he's upset, um, I don't know maybe but it's very
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The editing makes it sort of difficult to watch in a strange way, but I can sort of see why it didn't become a cult classic that you would think a film with Bowie and Susan Serrano would be. Because I'm like, why isn't this one of my most beloved films? Why have I not seen this? And it is a little weird to watch, and I don't know why.
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So then we have another year of a lot of vampires. And I know you've seen at least one of these, maybe two. I'm not sure. Yeah. 1987, we have two vampire movies come out. We have Near Dark and we have Lost Boys. I've seen them both. Great. OK. Me too. Yeah. Love them both. I saw the Lost Boys much more growing up. Near Dark I saw in the last year. And I think I saw Near Dark first. Oh, interesting. But I didn't love it as much as Lost Boys. Yeah. I saw Lost Boys more recently.
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So here's the thing. Lost Boys did very, very well at the box office. Near Dark did terribly. It flopped. Maybe because Lost Boys was clearly the more fun and young option. Also because Near Dark had a lot of their distributor or whatever was going on in business. They had a lot of money problems and that film basically didn't get very promoted. And Lost Boys had a lot of money behind it.
00:21:37
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and uh so and near dark is a good movie near dark is a good movie it is a western vampire movie it's like got a cowboy rugged feel to it totally um it is about a uh gang of vampires and this is the other weird thing it's like lost boys and near dark they're both about a gang of vampires yeah that there's a female vampire that
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It seduces a male non-vampire. It brings them into the gang. They're basically the same plot. It's so weird. There's a kid vampire in both of them. It's crazy. There's an adult dude vampire in both of them. But Lost Boys has the leather jackets. It's funnier. It's campier.
00:22:26
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And the music is so good. Oh my god, the beginning music with the saxophone player. That guy is out of control. It's like the most 80s movie you've ever seen in your life. Yes. Like that's what I have when I was watching it. I was just like, this is the most 80s movie I've ever seen in my whole life. Totally. And it's great. So those ones came out and I feel like...
00:22:45
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Maybe Lost Boys sort of brought back vampires in a way. Yeah. I think it made them cool and badass. And also changed sort of what, I mean, at least in these movies that we're talking about. Yeah. It's a very different vampire. Yes. It's not so just like, I'm spooky and old. It's like, I'm a fucking badass, mean dude. Yeah. Young and punk. Young and punk, absolutely.
00:23:10
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And the next one, which I would assume is your favorite, but I don't know if that's true, is Bram Stoker's Dracula from 1992 with Gary Oldman. It is my favorite. Yeah. This is the one I've seen. Actually, it's not the one I've seen the most. There's one other I've seen the most. But I have seen this movie many times. Oh, yeah. It's the best. Yeah. It's to me why it's so good is that Dracula has so many, I mean... Forms. Yeah. I was going to say maybe this is in the other ones and I just don't know them as well and I'm sorry.
00:23:39
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But I think it's so cool that you get to see Dracula in his wolf form, in his, you know, he gets to look like very old and very young. And all, of course, the different costumes that we talked about in another episode. But all different looks are amazing. I also just think the style of it is so strange and amazing. It feels very much like theater to me and less realistic acting.
00:24:09
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Which I love. I love that it's so theatrical. Keanu tries hard to ruin it and he cannot, but... I don't think he meant to try to ruin it. He can only be... Can you imagine if there was a different actor in that role? It'd be so much better. Yeah. Like an Ed Norton. An Ed Norton? Oh my god. But it is an excellent film. If you haven't seen it, it definitely should be high up on your list for vampire movies. Yes. Okay.
00:24:35
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So then also, 1992, another double feature of Vampires that year, we have Buffy the Vampire's Light come out. The movie, not the show yet. And have you seen the movie? No. Oh, so freaking fun. Not as good as the show because Joss Whedon didn't have as much creative control over the movie.
00:24:54
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And it's not Sarah Michelle Geller. And of course, it's not Sarah Michelle Geller, which is a huge problem. I don't care about it. But it is a really fun movie and allowed for Buffy to become a TV show, so I am grateful. We are grateful. We are grateful. And then a movie I haven't seen, but is officially number one on my list, is Chronos. I know. I haven't seen any of that. You haven't seen it? It's Garo Del Toro's first feature film. How dare I not see it? 1993. How dare we not see it together? How dare we not see it together? And I didn't even know he had made a vampire film.
00:25:25
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No. But it's Chronos. I don't know much about it. I know it's in Spanish. And I know we had to watch it. His first feature, I feel so proud of him. I don't know why. Oh, there's a really... Did I send it to you? What? No. There's a podcast called Visitations with Elijah Wood and someone else.
00:25:43
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And they have a two-part interview with Guillermo that just came out like the other day. Oh my gosh, y'all wasn't there. And it's really good. They go to his house, talk to him. Oh my gosh. And he talks all about his childhood and all the books he read. It's super fascinating. We love Guillermo. Yeah.
00:25:58
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It's great, highly recommend. And now in 1994, so now we're really rolling it, a lot more come out in the 90s. Interview with the Vampire is one of my most watched films of all time. It's amazing. It's amazing. I actually hadn't seen it until fairly recently. Did I watch with you? No, I don't think so. No, but I loved it. It's so good. I mean, it's probably like the sexiest thing I've ever seen. It's so sexy. It's so sexy. I had it at its best.
00:26:25
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It's also just outrageous that they got these actors in it, I think. Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. It's crazy. It's like, how did they agree to this movie? I don't know. But this is, of course, based off the Anne Rice novel. And Anne Rice is also a huge, I mean, we're not talking about books right now, but now we are, a huge influence in the perception of vampires in pop culture, I think. I don't know when the book came out. I guess I could look right now because my computer's in front of me.
00:26:55
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We're looking. I don't even want to guess. 1976! Wow. I would have never guessed it was that old. But these books, in particular for me, my brother Thomas was obsessed with Anne Rice and read all of those books on his honeymoon. He literally went to New Orleans and went to the plantation where they filmed and interviewed the vampire.
00:27:19
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And I'm like, no wonder I am the way I am. But anyways, so yes, I think Anne Rice had a huge influence on how vampires are perceived and looked at and represented in pop culture. And this movie is freaking amazing. It is so sexy. It is so brutal. It is just heart wrenching. Yes.
00:27:40
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Yeah, and I will tell you all and this is not related to the movie, but I think related somehow It's the part with when Kirsten Dunst cuts all her hair off. Mm-hmm. So when I was like a toddler I don't know I had ringlets all around my head and one day with safety scissors I said just cut all my ringlets off and then later I saw that movie and I was like oh
00:28:01
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I did that. That's me. Except for mine did not grow back, unfortunately. It did grow back slowly. But that moment is so freaking good. It's so good. I've watched that scene 1,000 times. It's so good. Also, Grayson dances. It's so good. So good. But that movie does get very sad at the end.
00:28:17
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It does. It is, but it is. Interview the Vampire, most watched film of all time. I think it's really because I had that DVD and the practical magic DVD and I wasn't allowed to own any horror movies so I just watched these spooky movies over and over and over again. I think the Vampire is dark though.
00:28:35
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It's very, yeah, it's dark, for sure. Okay, now we're moving on to another movie I haven't seen and I'm surely gonna get yelled at for, which is from Dusk Till Dawn, 1996. We'll also be watching that. We'll also be watching that, oh, what's that other one? I can think of one of the scenes, but I'm missing a big movie on here, I think in the 90s or early 2000s. Vampire? Yeah.
00:29:02
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I think it might be early 2000s. I'm not sure. But if I figured out, I'll let you know. 1997, the most important year in American history, the year when Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out on television. So this is my favorite show of all time. I'm sure I've talked about it a million times. I think it's an incredibly important show. And it's...
00:29:26
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gives exactly what we wanted for sexy ass vampires. You have a couple of love interests that are vampires for Buffy. You have Angel, who is of course the brooding dark vampire that, oh he's got a soul, oh. That's something I forgot in the Ambrosio tale, is Haiti says, if you don't bring me that bow, I'm gonna take your soul.
00:29:49
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And because he doesn't bring the bow back, he lost his soul. So we have Angel, who's like the brooding dark vampire. He has a soul. He doesn't, he feels so guilty for all the death he's caused. And then we have Spike, who's my personal favorite. He also has, though it's bleach blonde, the slicked back hair of the Bela Lugosi situation. But he is
00:30:12
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just hot and leather and British and an asshole, which, you know, us women just love in a vampire. I'm an angel girl, but it's okay. I was like, girl, I can't help it. She can't help it. I like a nice boy. I mean, Travis is a very nice boy, so what am I saying? But Spike is very hot. Okay.
00:30:35
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And Buffy the Vampire Slayer is an amazing show and I'm sure we could do a full episode on it, but I feel like this is the one that's already running long and we're only at 1997, so let's keep moving. Okay, there's another movie I haven't seen, but the reason I'm talking about ones I haven't seen is because these are the ones that stood out to me that I wanted to put on my list. This one, 30 Days of Night. Have you heard about this one? 2007. It looks really cool. It's on the list for us to watch later.
00:31:00
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And then one of my other favorite films of all time is the 2008 Swedish film Let the Right One In. I have watched this movie a lot of times and I freaking love it. That girl is so good. Eli, yes. I don't know any of the actor's names in this movie and I'm so sorry.
00:31:15
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but Oscar and Eli, they're adorable. It also became a play, the Scottish National Theater did, that they then put up in my hometown of Frederick, Maryland. And I saw it. Wait, did we not see it together? We did, yeah. Okay, good. No, we saw it. I was like, we saw it. So the National Theater of Scotland, they brought it over to, they brought it to New York like four years ago.
00:31:34
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Yeah. Something like that. Lauren and I saw it had one of the best, the best, most effective jump scares I've ever seen in a theater. Yeah. It was great. And then I saw a community theater version of it in my hometown and I was so proud the whole time. Anyways, I love it right here. Did they put it on your water? Yes. Wow. Oh, oh. Do you mean the community theater? Yeah. No.
00:31:55
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But they did it at the National Theatre of Scotland. If you know, the greatest scene in that film is the pool scene, which comes towards the end. It's a very slow, heartfelt, it's a really cool vampire movie. But all the action happens sort of in one scene, which is one of the greatest scenes of all time. It's so brutal. If you haven't seen that one, I highly recommend it. I've not seen the American remake. I'm assuming it's not good. It's not bad. Okay. Did you watch that one first, though?
00:32:23
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No. Oh, good. Okay. Okay. No. No. I saw it second. No. No. I watched it. I'm sorry. I was thinking about it, but I watched it because it's Chloe, so I had to. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do like Chloe. It's not quite as good. I feel like, but there are, I feel like it was a good retelling, just not quite as good. Did you know that Carrie Musical came out in the 80s? Yeah. I did not know that.
00:32:46
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Now she knows. I knew that the one that was here however many years ago in New York was the revival, but I didn't realize that it was such an old musical. I think they should remake it. I think they should redo it. For Broadway. They should make new songs. Oh yeah. It feels a little old. I was listening to it today. I'm on a musical theater kick right now. Unrelated to it, right? Unrelated. Let the Right One In is a great movie.
00:33:14
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Also in 2008, very, very different. But, you know, I would say hugely culturally impactful.
Twilight and Modern Vampire Lore
00:33:21
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Twilight. Totally. Yeah. So Twilight is Stephanie Meyers or Meyer Meyers. And I can't remember what year the book first came out somewhere in the early 2000s. Yeah. I read all of them. Me too. You did? Oh, that's good to know. I was going to ask because I didn't know. And more than once. Yes.
00:33:40
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Loved them. I thought they were amazing. They were freaking sexy They were just sexy enough for how old I was They felt dangerous and they were full of everything that I was feeling as a teenager Yes, I was good. I was just about to say like I think
00:33:55
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Like some girls are looking for their Prince Charming, and I think what's messed me up with boys is I'm looking for Edward Cullen. And he doesn't exist. He doesn't exist. Anyway. But he is in a movie called The Lighthouse coming out this month. Edward Cullen. Edward Cullen. But yeah, so it's so funny because it made this huge thing where it's like everybody, like Twilight has been the butt of jokes for many, many years. Sparkly vampires. Hormonal teens. Hormonal teens. Unrealistic.
00:34:25
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expectations for women, bad boyfriend behavior on Edward's parts. People are like, women shouldn't be treated in the way Edward treats Bella. All these different things that came up through these books that had people talking about it on a cultural level. It was huge. Even this is really throwing it back. In my high school,
00:34:48
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I can't remember. Oh, Mr. Urbana. Wow. It was like putting him on blast. Oh, yeah. So, Mr. Urbana. There was like a, it was like the senior boy, there was like a senior boy talent show. I don't know. I don't know. But one guy did this whole skit of being Edward Cullen and somebody threw glitter at him. I was like, this is like culturally impactful right now. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like the movies came out and even though
00:35:19
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The movies are not as good as the book. The soundtrack is bangin'. If anyone of you remembers, the soundtrack to Twilight is bangin'. And the aesthetic of the movies I think is really interesting. It's like very pale. Everything in that movie is very pale. But yeah, it's so interesting because everyone made fun of Twilight for so many years and I feel like people are just now coming out and being like,
00:35:42
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Yeah, I think people definitely looked down on it for sure. I will say I was one of those people that I read all the books and then I was like, the movies are so bad. They're nothing like the book. This is terrible. But I still watch all the movies in theaters. I did too. I went to a lot of midnight
00:35:59
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To hide. Oh, I also have a funny toilet story where this guy I will not name him But in middle school he wanted to read the books but didn't want anyone to know so at the end of class I would slip it in his backpack and Then he would bring it back when he was done with it and asked for the next one and I was back back
00:36:17
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And then they made sweet, sweet loves. No, no, no, no. That's in middle school. But he loved the books. That was so funny. I know, but he didn't want to get into them. Where is he today? I honestly don't know. He was like an artist. I don't know. Like an artist. Are you out there? Are you watching this? I'm sure you're not. Are you Edward Cullen? Are you who I've been looking for?
00:36:39
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Should we do a sign up form? Okay. Anyways, so Twilight. Next one I just want to mention because I watched it last year, I guess, but Thirst from 2009 is a Korean film. Have you seen this? It's a Korean vampire film. It's very strange because
00:36:56
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There is a lot of comedy in it that I understand as American. I'm not registering correctly And it is very weird But it's about that is an interesting movie because it portrays vampirism as a bad thing like the people that are vampires don't want to be vampires which I feel like this is Somewhat in these things where it's like they they understand it's a burden. Yes a burden to live forever They're broody or whatever
00:37:21
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But it's still somehow sexy, but in the thirst, it is not a sexy thing. It's just terrible. It's just terrible, which I think is interesting. It is. Because a lot of monsters, I feel like, are not perceived as sexy. Like, I would say nobody is really thinking Frankenstein is sexy. Or zombies. Like, no one is like, except for that one movie, no one is like sexually interested in zombies. Yeah. But vampires, because they are creatures that are the closest to humans, I guess, in a way.
00:37:50
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But the thirst, even though there's a lot of sex in that movie, not I'm thinking about it, but it's not glorified. Vampirism is not glorified. Then one that Lauren and I both watched this week, which I'm so excited to talk about, is Only Lovers Left Alive from 2013. It's so good. Which is about hipster vampires. Like artsy, brooding. Artsy, yes, have a lot of feelings.
00:38:15
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have been around for a long time, so have read a lot of old books and really pride themselves on that. But I love that they call blood the good stuff. It makes it all seem like it's drug related. Yes, that's exactly what it feels like. It feels like blood is drugs. And they're paying high dollar for it.
00:38:34
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Yeah, it's really interesting and it's a very slow, sexy movie. There's a lot of wearing sunglasses indoors. Also, Tilda. Sorry, I just was thinking about it because Tilda is everything I've ever wanted to be. But she is like 20 years older than Tom Hiddleston. And I was like, when do we see that? It's always the woman who is the younger one. I thought it was so fun that he was. That's really nice.
00:39:00
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Um, and they are very hot together.
Artsy Vampires: Only Lovers Left Alive
00:39:02
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They're very hot. That's great. Oh, and then what's her name? The little sister? Mia Wasakowski. That seems pretty close. She's also very fun in this movie. She's so good. Very different character than she really plays. I was gonna say, I really feel like...
00:39:17
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Tim Burton and her something didn't go right with Alice in Wonderland because she's not good in that and she's been good in everything else Something went wrong and you would think like she seems such like a Tim Burton actress. Yeah, something is not right. I
00:39:31
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Anyways, but I think she's very full in this film. She's so dumb this one. She's such a brat. She's irresponsible. Yeah, she's irresponsible. And they also talk in that movie about how it's not how it used to be. You can't just throw bodies off with the rest of them that already died. It's like you have to be careful nowadays. I think they're in New York. They're New York City vampires, which is similar to The Hunger. They're also New York City vampires.
00:39:56
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And that is interesting, there is sort of a mix of either a vampire lives in a castle far away or lives in the apartment next door. It's kind of a fun thing we see. Then in 2014 we got two vampire movies that kind of blew up. One I haven't seen, nor have I seen the show, but what we do in the shadows, I haven't seen it. Apparently it's hilarious.
00:40:20
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sitcom reality feeling show about vampires that live in an apartment together. Love it. And it's very silly. Wine burp, sorry.
00:40:31
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haven't seen it. I hear it's very funny. I know I need to watch it. Um, but then a movie that I really, really love is Lily, uh, a Mirapour. Hope I said her name right. Girl Walks Home Alone at Night for 2014. Incredible. Really, really good movie. I think this we also watched together or right around the same time. We watched it, I think separately, but we watched it... Wasn't it for an episode? Maybe. I mean, I did an episode on Lily, but I think... Maybe I just watched it for that.
00:41:01
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Anyway. Anyways. Great film. But that one's really good and really interesting because there is a very, that would be lack score. Um, but like makes up for it with like different, a different type of vampire atmosphere. Yes. Which is cool. Yes. It does something a little bit different. Um, but yeah, it's a lot of, has any vampire movies come out the last couple of years? I mean, there's the nose for auto TV show that's happening. Um,
00:41:30
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But I can't really think of any in the last couple of years. But I'm ready for another one. And I guess we didn't really done this. I feel like Twilight kind of like killed it. That's true. Like killed the trends. Yeah. I think it killed a big budget trend of vampire movies for sure. Because I think people just kind of tired of it. They're just kind of done. It's like, OK, we see enough. And then it wasn't, you know, it wasn't horror.
00:41:53
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Yeah, exactly. Sexy teen romance. Yeah, and that's also interesting because I think vampires are the subject of a lot of young adult fiction, which is interesting. I read a lot of that growing up. I would say even more than movies, I read a lot of teen romance vampire books. I can't even remember what they all were right now. I guess it's like the fact that they're like, you have to seduce your prey. Yeah. So it's already leading to...
00:42:21
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and it's like somebody sees you and they want you so bad they're gonna eat you. And it's like that's how sort of teenage, and I understand I really do. I'm wanting someone inside of you. Sorry. But there is totally like something going on with like vampires and teens. And like in the same way that there is with horror movies and teens, with vampires and teens it's like the amount of passion you feel as a teenager for another person is like I love you so much I could eat you. Like it feels like you want to be consumed and consume that person.
00:42:50
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And so I can totally understand why vampires come up so much in young adult fiction and teen films. And sort of that person outside of everyone feels like they're on the outside, but also they're intrigued by people on the outside.
00:43:08
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And especially vampires, if you're chosen by a vampire, there's something about that. And Bella was so normal. That's what it is. It's like Bella being so normal. And that's why Kristen Stewart is the perfect, because she's so bland.
00:43:24
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And it's like, and yet, Edward loves her. And it's like... Mouth breathing and all. Yeah! And so it's like, as a teenage reader, feeling very not very seen, and this, like, image of like, not only her, but two guys throughout the books, falling deeply in love with her, it's just like, yeah, I am special. And that's sort of what comes up in these a lot with women. And also knowing that you're the one that didn't get eaten. Yeah, yeah. Or that they're like, keeping you alive. They'll protect you. Oh my god, it's insane.
00:43:52
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But there is a lot of seducing going on in all these vampire movies.
00:43:56
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I think that's probably it. Yeah, I said a lot word I think I did double the amount of words in this one to make up for the which one Which I'm assuming no one realized wasn't well researched because nobody's left me in comment But here we are so I know she is look at all that research. Look at all that. You did so good. Thank you Thank you. I appreciate it. Um, and that's it my friends. So we hope you have some sweet sweet nightmares. Bye