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Duffy’s Cut Murder Mystery & Omaima Nelson
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Happy belated Thanksgiving, turkeys! This week it’s a frightful feast, featuring a double heaping helping of two Thanksgiving-themed horror stories!
First, Lauren explores how one grandfather’s annual Thanksgiving ghost story (yes, that was apparently a thing for this grandpa) led brothers to uncover a mysterious mass grave site from the 1800s. Over 50 Irish immigrants died at a railroad site in Pennsylvania during the cholera epidemic in 1832…but did they actually die from cholera?!
Next, Felicia tells a Thanksgiving true crime tale that will truly not be a story you’re thankful for. Omaima Nelson was an Egyptian former model who immigrated to the US in 1986 and, 5-years-later in October 1991, met 56-year-old pilot William E. “Bill” Nelson when she was still only 23. Within days of meeting, the two were married despite their 33 year age difference. But it was not a happy holiday for the couple in November 1991, just a month into their marriage. We’re not going to spoil your dinner with the “just deserts,” but let’s just say the turkey wasn’t the only thing that was carved that year. And you thought Thanksgiving dinner with your family was weird…
Listen to hear the cornucopia of a twist in this terrifying Thanksgiving tale!
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Transcript
Introduction and Thanksgiving Horror Talk
00:00:12
Speaker
Welcome to the Sinister Sisters podcast. I'm Lauren. I'm Felicia. We're best friends. And we like spooky stuff. Happy belated. Okay. Here's the truth. We recorded this before Thanksgiving, but you're going to hear it after Thanksgiving. Is that correct? That's exactly right. You nailed it. Okay. And are you as excited as I to see the Thanksgiving horror movie?
00:00:39
Speaker
Yes, I was going to ask it. You haven't seen it. No. Is it already out? I probably came out this week. Or maybe it's coming out this week. I don't know.
00:00:48
Speaker
That's actually a good call. I don't know if it's out, but I do want to see it. Yeah. It looks like it's going to be a nice fun slasher. So yes. And I mean, there's so few Thanksgiving ending movies. And horror movies love a holiday. Christmas, Valentine's Day, Halloween, Easter bunny. There's not enough Easter horror movies. That's that's the next thing they got to work on for sure. I agree. I agree.
00:01:17
Speaker
I forgot there was a, um, there's like a character in hell boy called the tooth fairy. My dad has this like toothy monster, uh, model. And I was like, yeah, yeah, super cool.
Reflections on Turning 31
00:01:31
Speaker
But I was going to say this also is kind of your birthday podcast. It is almost my birthday. It's weird. It doesn't really feel like my birthday is this week, literally three days.
00:01:47
Speaker
That's how you know I'm getting old because I am not even noticing that my birthday is in a few days. That's so crazy. I mean, I knew because I'm going home and I know I'm going out to dinner with my family, I guess on Friday. I don't know. And then- Wait, is it? No, it's not Thanksgiving this year. No, it's the day after. And then Travis and I are going upstate the next weekend for us to celebrate my birthday.
00:02:15
Speaker
I guess, I don't know. Maybe it's just like my job's crazy right now. I don't know, but my brain has kind of been like, birthday? Maybe it's 31. You're like, who cares? Yeah, I guess maybe that's maybe part of it because 30 was like such a exciting big deal. Yeah, now 31. I'm like, well, what now?
00:02:36
Speaker
Yeah, that could be what it is. But happy, I guess it'll be after your birthday, but happy early birthday right now. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to send you a late present. It's okay. You do not deserve a present. Just a little something. We went out for the 30th. I think it's okay.
00:02:55
Speaker
31 is like, what is it? I feel like nothing else is important until you're like 62, right? It's like 30 to 62. There's nothing happening. 62 of all things around 60. No? I don't know. 62 is like the retirement age. Is that 64? Or is that 75 now? I don't know.
00:03:13
Speaker
Yeah, it's like 90 at this job.
Exploring the 'Twin Flames' Documentary
00:03:17
Speaker
Recommendations, do you have anything? I have one, but it's not quite horror, even though it's horrific. Have you seen the Twin Flames documentary? No. Not even been offered it? What is that? You have to watch it. It's another sort of like
00:03:37
Speaker
spiritual kind of cult. Yes. But it's about the two founders of it. It's still operating today. Still going at it. They haven't been able to get them in real, real trouble yet. But the two founders are
00:03:56
Speaker
can say that they are each other's twin flames, which basically is like soulmates, but it's very extreme. It's kind of like arranged marriages where they're like, that person's your twin flame. Now you have to do all these crazy things to be with them, including an insane amount of what?
00:04:18
Speaker
No, not like sex thing. Is it a sex cult? It's not actually that. It is like obviously they like talk about sex a little bit. But what's so odd is that there's a lot of gender transitioning. So yes. So they'll be like, you are the masculine. You are the feminine. Now you will get gender reconstructive surgery. And yes. So
00:04:42
Speaker
It's not coming from the person. It's coming from the leaders. Oh, that's not good. It's very odd. And it's like sometimes it feels like obviously the person also identifies that way and they make the change and they're happy or like is leaning towards it or something or they're like, you're masculine and they're like, no, I'm not. Or they'll be like, you should be with a woman. And they're like, I'm not a lesbian. I don't know. It's crazy.
00:05:11
Speaker
That is wild.
Unexpected TV Show Interests
00:05:15
Speaker
And also it's one of those things too where I'm just like, okay, so you're the masculine, you're the feminine, and you're telling the person that that means they have to reassign their gender.
00:05:29
Speaker
or I guess both. Yeah, or both. Yeah. And it's like, well, can't I mean, it depends on how you're looking at gender, I guess. But but there could be a world in which they just like are using like traditional masculine feminine roles without having to have surgery. It's I mean, odd. And it's also just like, I don't know. This is like one of the few ones where I'm just like,
00:05:56
Speaker
I don't know, I guess I kind of felt this way about the Keith Ranieri one, where I'm just like, the guy is like, I don't know, both of them, I don't think are that charismatic or like, oh, yeah, good at like selling the man. How are people following you?
00:06:12
Speaker
But I think it's like such a, like when you see the people that obviously have come out of the cult, it's like the most vulnerable who are like, I just wanted love. Like I just wanted to find my person. Yes. It's so sad. Everyone is just seeking love. It's true.
00:06:30
Speaker
Man, that's wild. I'll check it out. I'll get my family to watch it over Thanksgiving. That sounds like a nice family evening film. Actually, I feel like I can't. Only your mom, I feel like, would be like, yeah, she. I mean, she's so funny. She hates horror movies, but watch all of Dexter. And she was. Yeah, I don't know. And then I think she loves that kind of stuff like.
00:06:55
Speaker
A scandalous story, you know, I just feel like totally. We can't not love a scandalous story. Yeah, I mean, my mom, like, always says she doesn't like horror movies and she watched. I think she's like one of the few people that maybe finished The Walking Dead. And I'm like, that's funny. I don't really know what I'm watching.
00:07:16
Speaker
I did, I am watching Suits. I don't know why, but I kind of like it. I just... Where's it, Meghan Markle? Is that who that is? Yeah, that's not why you got into it. Oh my God. Yeah. No, I forgot. But no, my mom said she watched it and it was good. And then I watched like the Netflix preview and I was like, oh, it's mildly interesting. And then I started watching it and I was like, fine.
00:07:42
Speaker
This is a fine way to feel some time. Wait, I have to tell you, I just remembered I actually did start watching a show that I really like.
Recommendation: 'Murder at the End of the World'
00:07:49
Speaker
Did you ever watch the OC? Wait, no, that's not what that's called. The OA. The OA? Oh my god, the OA is so good and so different from the OC. I can't.
00:08:03
Speaker
I'm falling apart, but the OA, so they, uh, I lost it all. The girl from it, Brit Marling, she is in a new show that's called a murder at the end of the world. Have you heard of this? No.
00:08:20
Speaker
It is so good and like kind of creepy and interesting Hulu. It's the girl that plays, I haven't even seen the crown, but the girl that plays Princess Diana in the crown is the main character. And then the like young hot guy from triangle of sadness is like another big character.
00:08:44
Speaker
Wow. An amateur detective who attempts to solve a murderous, secluded retreat. Yeah, I'm excited. And she's like, uh, like her dad was, uh, what's that called? A person that does autopsies. Oh, uh, yeah. Yeah. And so she's like really into like figuring out why people died and like, she like gets into true crime. It's very cool.
00:09:11
Speaker
That sounds awesome. Okay. Yay. I'm looking for something because obviously I'm not that excited about suits. I'm mildly interested. You're just watching it. Well, yeah, do you have anything else or that's pretty much it for now? I've been listening to a lot of criminal podcasts. She's the best. It's so good. I'm listening in order and I think I'm on like a hundred and something now, so I'm really
00:09:37
Speaker
Really in it. Real fan. And every episode I love. I've had, I skipped a couple just if I like was like, oh, this feels like something I'm not in a place to listen to today. Or sometimes if it's about animals, I get nervous. Yeah. That I'm gonna cry or something. But yeah, I just, I think, I think it's incredible. Like I think everybody should listen to Criminal just to like,
00:10:04
Speaker
I don't know, see a different view of like the world and many things. But yeah, that's it really. That's it. Amazing. All right. Well, I'll jump in.
Ghost Tale and Mystery at Duffy's Cut
00:10:15
Speaker
I have a sort of borderline Thanksgiving story. It's basically like this grandfather told the same ghost story every Thanksgiving.
00:10:28
Speaker
and it eventually led to the two brothers uncovering this 200-year-old murder mystery. Cool. I know. That's exciting. It's very interesting. Dr. Bill and Reverend Frank Watson, our two brothers whose grandfather, as I said, told the same local legend story, every Thanksgiving.
00:10:51
Speaker
It was about 57 Irish immigrants who died at a railroad site in Pennsylvania during the cholera epidemic back in 1832. The area is called Duffy's Cut, and it's named after the rail worker's boss whose name was Philip Duffy. But it's basically just this stretch of railroad tracks about 30 miles from Philadelphia.
00:11:19
Speaker
And Duffy's Cut was this massive project basically to fill in a ravine to allow the railroad to come through. The Watson's Grandpa who was telling this story was a railroad worker. And so he believed basically that the railroad workers who all, as I said, 57 Irish immigrants died, they always said it was because of cholera, but he believed that it wasn't from cholera.
00:11:50
Speaker
Yes. So how the story that the grandfather told goes, it's very short, just a man walking home from a tavern claimed to see mysterious green figures dancing in the mist in September 1909. So I guess that's like about 70 years after the men died.
00:12:08
Speaker
So the documents that the kids inherited quote the unnamed man as saying, I saw with my own eyes the ghost of the Irishman who died with cholera a month ago, a dancing around the big trench where they were buried. It's true, mister, it was awful.
00:12:28
Speaker
So there's like rumors of ghosts in that area. This is the story that the grandfather told, but they thought that, yes. So basically because of, or just to tell you like what the world, I guess, thought the true story was, was that the cholera outbreak happened and many of the workers from that area tried to run, but when they were looking for shelter, people were turning them away because they were worried about getting infected.
00:12:56
Speaker
Feeling lost, they went back to that area where they were working on the railroad and there was a little shanty that they all hold up in. I guess they were partially living there anyway, but according to the story, they were taken care of by the Sisters of Charity, some nuns, I guess, and a local blacksmith.
00:13:16
Speaker
And so as the men died, they started putting them in this mass grave. And then the blacksmith eventually burned the little building to the ground after everyone was dead, which is very bleak. So Frank, yes, Reverend Frank Watson, inherited the railroad papers, as I said, from his grandpa.
00:13:40
Speaker
And as he kind of started looking at them, he realized that his grandpa was the assistant to Martin Clement, who was the president of the Pennsylvania Railroad. So they actually had like a fair amount of documents and one of them even said like X marks the spot over where they thought the mass grave was.
00:13:59
Speaker
So they suspected that like, you know, there could be some clues and sort of started digging in the paperwork and they feel like, you know, there was just like more to the story basically. And a lot of it in the documents, like many of the men were not recorded as having cholera or even really like working for the railroad to get up to that, whatever I said, 57 number. So Bill and Frank were fascinated. So they actually started like,
00:14:27
Speaker
Digging so bill is a historian now and so he started this dig in 2002 and then in 2005 which like I'm just like I don't know anytime I think about archaeological digs I'm just like I would not have the patience to like three years later. They started to find things like I would be like three days of
00:14:51
Speaker
I'm tired, hot, and bored. Moving on. Like truly could not do it, but three years later they found forks, tobacco pipe shards, and basically like the brothers were like, I don't think lined up with like what they were, they thought they'd be finding or like people wouldn't have gotten rid of these valuable items. So they brought in a geophysicist named Tim Bechtel,
00:15:18
Speaker
And I was like, Bechtel test? I don't know. Are they all related? But he did an earth scan to basically see what was underground better. And how that works is it shoots electrical currents through the ground. And there were strange areas where the current would stop. So they were like, all right, we got to keep going, basically.
00:15:39
Speaker
So then big, big find in March 2009, they found a bone which started to raise some suspicions. And then teams started to uncover more things, including a skull that had been pierced by a bullet and cleaved by a hatchet.
00:16:00
Speaker
Oh, oh no. Yeah. Doesn't line up with cholera, really. That's true. So Bill Watson in this article I read, I think it was the Daily Post or something like that said, we have no idea what percentage of these guys were murdered, but if we have 57, it's the worst mass murder in Pennsylvania history, which is crazy. So in their research, she said the average of the workers was around 22 years old.
00:16:30
Speaker
They were all Irish immigrants. This was at a time that there was a lot of xenophobia, people not treating them kindly. They were working for very little money, really not great conditions. As they discovered more and more things,
00:16:47
Speaker
They eventually discovered at least seven skeletons, including four skulls. Another additional skull had a little divot on it that would have been the side bone of the skull. That little divot is something that happened to cause the death. Again, another proof that this person had to have been hit on the head before they died.
00:17:12
Speaker
So they believe there's more bodies that can be uncovered and they're continuing to uncover. It seems like it's not as big of a focus for whatever reason. They've kind of backed away on it in more recent years.
00:17:27
Speaker
But I will say that in 2012, they were able to bury five men. They had put together five skeletons and then one woman who had died. I think this is also so incredible and kind of crazy. They did find the body of a teenager
00:17:47
Speaker
who was named John Ruddy, and he was from a part of Ireland, and so they actually ended up sending his bones back to his home country, Thailand, to be laid to rest.
00:18:01
Speaker
They also had a burial for Catherine Burns was another woman whose skeleton they found in October of 2015. And again, she was another one that like by her skull, indicated that she had been murdered. Jim also just like the fact that there were women there too. It's kind of mind blowing to me.
00:18:21
Speaker
But it's like a crazy story and that's kind of like, you know, as much information as I have. That's all they know. So they're like continuing to discover, but you know, it was back in, when I say like 1832. So again, like, it's just so hard to know much more than that, but they're continuing to, you know, find new information. And to me, it's like, at least they weren't all cholera, which is just, again, very dark.
00:18:51
Speaker
Yeah, and I wonder like, from the ghost story, yeah, I guess just like, that was just passed down to the grandfather just by stories of like, from his family and back and back, probably. I think so. And I guess because he worked with that woman, like he worked with, not woman, sorry. I don't know why I said that. I was just gonna agree with you. You're like, yes, of course.
00:19:17
Speaker
Yes, that woman. He was an assistant to the president of the Pennsylvania Railroad, so he had paperwork from his job, I guess, that led them to it. But I love the concept, too, of a grandfather telling a ghost story on Thanksgiving. I'm just like, why? A yearly ghost story. Love it. That's great. That is great. That's it. Good job. That was interesting. Thank you.
The Shocking Case of Omaima Nelson
00:19:53
Speaker
The story I'm going to tell you is Thanksgiving adjacent for a couple of reasons, and also just horrible. Like, it's so dark. It's a murder story. Everybody get ready. I'm so sorry for all the things I'm going to say. Trigger warning, bad. All of it. All of it. OK.
00:20:17
Speaker
The story I'm going to tell you is, I was so scared of saying it out loud for the first time. Emma Nelson. Actually, I want to save the punch line. I'm just going to save the punch line. Save the punch line. Emma Nelson was born in Egypt and came to the United States in 1986.
00:20:45
Speaker
When she was in Egypt, she and her mother suffered under the abuse of her father. And it was apparently really, really bad. And apparently, and this is once again, just trigger warning. This is such a dark thing. Apparently, when she was a child living in Cairo, she had undergone female genital mutilation.
00:21:12
Speaker
And that results in the act of sex being an extremely painful and traumatic experience. So she suffered greatly in her childhood and she came over to America and she had come over actually with an American man that she had met that was on some sort of contract in Cairo.
00:21:43
Speaker
and she was really young. And then she came over and I think she immigrated to Texas, so hey. So she met a man named William Nelson, who went by Bill, in 1991. And she met him while they were playing pool at a bar.
00:22:08
Speaker
And William had been a pilot, but he had been convicted for smuggling marijuana in 1984. So he had served four years in federal prison. He was released on parole and he was back to like he was back in the workforce working for some sort of mortgage company. So at the time, she was 23 and he was done, did it on 56.
00:22:39
Speaker
They dated, they got engaged, and they were married in just a few days. So. That's bleak. Yep, yep. Just a few days? Just a few days. And they went on some sort of honeymoon where they visited a bunch of his American relatives in Texas and also in Arkansas. And Omiva said that
00:23:06
Speaker
She didn't know that her husband was a violent person until they went on their honeymoon. And I was like, oh, mama, that's because you knew him for like three days.
00:23:18
Speaker
So maybe we should have slowed it down. And according to her, after the honeymoon, he began to get more and more violent. And she claims that he assaulted her physically and sexually during their marriage. She said that
00:23:36
Speaker
Bill was interested in kinky bondage sex. And whenever she didn't want to do that, he would get really upset and he would hit her. She also told a story that one time they were driving and she had gotten a kitten and he got mad at her and threw the kitten out the window. Oh, God. So it's all going very badly.
00:24:07
Speaker
Okay, so she said that she was threatening to leave him and on Thanksgiving weekend and on Thanksgiving day in 1991, it all came to a head.
00:24:28
Speaker
So she said that her she felt like her life was in danger that I mean, I get that. Mm hmm. She said that he attempted to rape and strangle her. And in self defense, she seized a lamp and struck him with it a bunch before stabbing him with a pair of scissors. And he died.
00:24:58
Speaker
I think good job. Oh, I'm not done yet, Lauren. And neither was Oh My Ma. Okay. So after she murdered him, she decided that she needed to, you know, get rid of the body. So she starts to dismember his body into little, little bits. And
00:25:22
Speaker
According, and you know, once she was arrested, and we'll go into that, this story changes a bit here and there, but according to her. I'm getting confused whose side I'm on. That's why I told it in this way. She just remembered his body. And she decided that a good way to hide him was in the Thanksgiving leftovers and food. So she cooked down his skull.
00:25:49
Speaker
Oh, my. She oiled his hands to remove his fingerprints and she mixed a bunch of the remains with the leftover Thanksgiving turkey with the cranberry sauce. And she also apparently cooked his ribs and proceeded to eat them with barbecue sauce.
00:26:16
Speaker
Oh my. This feels like a movie. She never saw it coming. So then she threw away what she could and she wrapped up a bunch of the remaining body parts and organs in trash bags and put them in her car.
00:26:35
Speaker
So she then contacted two of her ex-boyfriends. Did she serve? I'm so sorry. Did she serve the food to other people? Oh, no, no, no. Just just for my mom. Just for her. This is such a crazy story and it's so dark and it's like sometimes you have to laugh because otherwise you'll just throw up. It's so bad.
00:26:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's a bad one. Okay. So she contacted a couple of her ex-boyfriends and her ex-boyfriend named Jose responded, I guess. She drove her over to his house. She told him the whole story, not the cooking with him part, just the part where she had to kill him in self-defense and needed to get rid of the body. And she said, if you help me get rid of the rest of these body parts that are in my car, I will give you $75,000 and some of the motorcycles that
00:27:24
Speaker
Bill had had in their garage. And Jose, good for you, Jose, said, OK, that's good. And called the police. Good for him. I know. Good for you, Jose. You're smart. Yeah. So they came and arrested her and found in the passenger seat, front seat, a trespass. And they said, what's in there? And she said, um.
00:27:53
Speaker
And apparently it was his lungs, Lauren, his lungs. And they knew they were lungs because they had like black stuff all over them because he was a smoker. Oh, gosh. I know. I know. So they go to the couple's residence walls, floors, bedlet and stained with blood.
00:28:18
Speaker
They collect pieces of William's body from the kitchen and they talked to the neighbors and the neighbors said that they heard what sounded like a garbage disposal going for 48 hours straight. So apparently she had tried to dispose at least a third of the body just down the garbage disposal, which honestly is maybe what I would have done too.
00:28:49
Speaker
third of the body though? Yeah, because they find all these remains, they get it all together and they realized they were missing 80 pounds of bill. And they thought most of it had gone down the garbage disposal. Wow. Heavy Thanksgiving. Okay. Crazy. Okay, so I was arrested. You're telling me that when I'm thinking about leftovers, I can put down the garbage disposal. I could do a lot because she fit. You get a lot down there.
00:29:17
Speaker
A verily 80 pounds. Yeah, so she was arrested on December 2nd. So it took a few days, I guess. And the trial started on a year later, December 1st, 1992. Right? Just a week or so after my birth.
00:29:36
Speaker
Incredible. I could have been there. And basically the... So, Omaima and her lawyer were like, she had PTSD from... She was under extreme stress from her husband's abuse.
00:29:55
Speaker
Blah, blah. And the jury was like, nah, nah, because she didn't just kill him. She really killed him, dismembered him and then ate him. So. Tell him the garbage disposal. I've got him now the garbage disposal. So
00:30:15
Speaker
She was found guilty of second degree murder, sentenced to 25 years to life. She had a parole hearing in 2006. Yeah, yeah. And so 2006, she had, I guess, become a sort of Christian, hardcore Christian.
00:30:33
Speaker
She expressed that she felt bad about murdering him. I'm sorry I dismembered him. Please let me out. And the parole board was like, no, because they thought that she was a threat to others, which she is. Yeah, but get this. While she's in jail, 2011, she gets married again to a man in his 70s that is in the outside world.
00:31:02
Speaker
So I don't know if this is one of those things where people write to people in jail. I don't know. I can't. Anytime people marry someone in jail, I'm like, what is going on? And apparently he had some money. He actually died. And so some people wonder if he left her some money. She was eligible in 2011 again for parole and they denied her again. And now
00:31:30
Speaker
Oh yeah, this is a weird part too. So she... Okay, so there's also, obviously there's some mental instability here. And she said a couple of things to psychiatrists that I guess are red flags.
00:31:48
Speaker
for her being able to get out of prison. One is that she said that she dismembered him because these like Egyptian women covered in blood came to her in a dream and said that she had to murder him and that she had to dismember him because otherwise she would meet him again in the afterlife. And so she had to take the body apart so he couldn't follow her.
00:32:16
Speaker
the afterlife. And then Dr. David J. Scheffner, who was her psychiatrist, said that like he's diagnosed her as clinically insane because she also told him that while she was dismembering the body as part of the ritual, like the ritualistic nature in which she did it, she wore red hat, red high heel shoes and red lipstick while she
00:32:46
Speaker
did this. Wow. And so she's not up for parole again until 2026. But while I was Googling, I did find a change.org petition for oh my my Nelson's early release. Wow. 6,324 signatures. Oh my god. And it basically says
00:33:11
Speaker
She's innocent. Self-defense. No, no, it doesn't say she's innocent. It says that she has been fully rehabilitated. They said that she's gone through thousands of classes in therapy. She graduated from high school. She's attended job skills training. 800 hours of Alcoholics Anonymous. 800 hours of Narcotics Anonymous. When was she addicted to these things? I don't know. It never came up in the research. Hundreds of hours of anger management. In jail. Maybe. That's possible.
00:33:43
Speaker
And she currently lives in the honor dorm and lives a positive life. And at the end, it just says, this is the woman that Ohmaima Nelson is today. And I'm like, I don't know. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't. I was just going to say, I always feel so conflicted over like rehabilitation stuff. Yeah, I do because sometimes it's like she's probably a very different woman.
00:34:12
Speaker
I mean, I'm sure she is different. I mean, this is like 20, 30, basically 30 years ago. Is that math right? 1990. Yeah, I'm 31. So, okay. Yeah. Bringing it back to me. Birthday week. Birthday week. But I don't know. This one, I'm just kind of like, I feel like if you have the ability to do something like that, you probably shouldn't be put in a position in which you could do it again.
00:34:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty intense. Yeah. So that's my my eyes, the craziest story I literally have ever feel like I've ever told this podcast. But I feel like the poison cheesecake story. I don't know. I feel like this is like a perfect Thanksgiving one. I mean, it really was. It really was.
00:35:04
Speaker
And I will say I listened to the murder makeup Bailey episode on this and she's really funny and did a great job and this medium article. And so if anything was wrong, that's who to blame. Yeah. I love it. I thought that was so good and such a perfect Thanksgiving episode. Yeah. Happy Thanksgiving.
00:35:33
Speaker
Check your turkey meat. Make sure there's nothing weird in there. And cranberry sauce, right? For the cranberry sauce. I knew a suspect. Yeah. But thanks, everyone, for listening. Yes. Happy Thanksgiving. And we hope you have some sweet, sweet nightmares. Bye.