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EURO 2024 | Preview and Predictions
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Episode Introduction
00:00:17
killianginnity
Hello and welcome to our Euros 2024 preview and prediction episode. And I'm delighted to to introduce you as always to Robbie, Nate, Connor, and myself, Killian, but before we get into any of the Euros madness, gentlemen, we have a Ireland friendly to discuss, 2-1 over hungry. Connor, is it enough to convince you for John O'Shea to get the job?
00:00:44
Glennon
The game wasn't what the interview was, um if I'm honest. The game was pretty dire.
Ireland vs Hungary Analysis
00:00:51
Glennon
I must say I missed kind of a little bit of the first half. I kind of came into it thinking that it would be a case of of same old, same old. ah There was there was was a real lack of chemistry between the teams, I suppose, or sort of between the the team, not the teams. Hungary were there for the take, and I think we made we made a bit of a meal of it.
00:01:11
Rob
Okay.
00:01:13
Glennon
but look we got there in the end um terrible goal for Parrot at the end but um you know it's good to see him getting getting across the line but I will say the bit that got me on the John O'Shea train is when he kind of did the whole I'm a lad from Waterford it I shouldn't be here and Dee Dee Hammond kind of saying that it needs to be someone from Ireland also kind of sold it to me in a in a in his kind of passionate spiel so
00:01:15
Rob
Okay.
00:01:19
killianginnity
They all count.
State of Irish Football
00:01:38
Glennon
I don't know about you guys
00:01:38
killianginnity
Very ironic that the German on the Irish panel was screaming for the Irish manager name.
00:01:42
Glennon
yeah
00:01:42
Nate
yeah that was funny yeah no that was funny it's like you can't be a foreign manager just like okay why give us a good reason of why um
00:01:52
killianginnity
the chairman who spent his whole career in England.
00:01:54
Nate
To be honest, I think the biggest thing I took out of it is football hunt in Ireland is in serious trouble. The Aviva was empty. like
00:02:02
Glennon
Oh, there was more people in my apartment blocking at that game. Like, it was dire.
00:02:06
Nate
A sunny day in Dublin. If football's in trouble in this country, I think, especially when one of the reasons that people are going for John O'Shea is that he's bringing the field goal factor.
00:02:12
Rob
Um,
00:02:18
Nate
Yeah, not enough to get people out of their houses and into the TV, but is it so? I think it's a bit of a fluff and I still don't think John O'Shea is going off to be Iron O'Lantern.
00:02:29
Glennon
It's not good enough. i think well ah Good enough sounds mean. I don't think he's the right... We we can do better. I don't know about you, Rob.
00:02:39
Rob
I don't even know if we can do better now, because I think like there's been no leaks, there's no sense that there's anyone else kind of in link with the job. Maybe after the Euros, someone might come
John O'Shea as Manager
00:02:50
Rob
become available. But it probably is the best we can get at the moment. And I suppose as like it's not going to be revolutionary right like that. like You can only work with the players kind of that are there. And if you did at least win, and Hungary are 44 places of the world, I think it's the first time they beat a team ranked at Bolton since it was Scotland two years ago. and i but I think going back to the night saying like our shop was in trouble, like I've lost a lot of kind of, i used to get I used to care a lot about who the order manager is now. I'm like, oh yeah, why not? Like, don't know what you're saying, it seems grand. Like give him a goal. We're probably going to finish it roughly even, and because it just doesn't look like we're going to be able to compete for the types of managers who would make a difference. like
00:03:34
Rob
For example, maybe Brendan Rodgers or Graham Potter or any of these guys.
00:03:38
Glennon
Oh, Jesus, three minutes he already brought up Waldorf.
00:03:39
Nate
what put her far and we had to have them.
00:03:42
Rob
Yeah, like that's one for Killian, I know that. But are someone like Rodgers, if he was to leave South, we can't afford any of these guys. All we can afford is kind of a, like, John Shea wanting the job is probably put them at the top of the queue. So because it doesn't seem to be anyone else who wants it. And so from that perspective, I'm ahm kind of willing to give them one campaign which because we're probably not going to reach the World Cup in two years anyway and then we'll be hosts for the next euros if we qualify so that's probably the chance then to get someone maybe a bigger name or someone more experienced so that's probably one of the most balanced answers I think I've ever given.
Player Performances and Critiques
00:04:23
Rob
I usually rant and rave at
00:04:23
Glennon
Kayleen, what are you saying? That's a hard one to follow.
00:04:26
killianginnity
I, to be honest, I think the result and interview has overshadowed a very poor performance, I thought. There was nothing convincing about the team at any stage. There's obviously kind of a bit of riffs going on behind the scenes with Matt Daugherty putting out kind of salty Instagram same grade 45 or one of my best 45s and then Shane Duffy commenting same.
00:04:46
Glennon
I didn't like that, yeah.
00:04:55
killianginnity
um So it's not all rosy in the Garden of Eden, and but like Liam Scales, I was beating down our group chat just saying like I was really unimpressed by him, he was very rash.
00:04:57
Rob
Okay.
00:05:10
killianginnity
and small bone got man the match and I'm worried that he's turning into a Jeff Hendrick 2.0 like the man is putting in a lot of effort and having very little hey finished product at the end of that and I don't think that's how he will end up but There's always that kind of concern. I thought Keleher was good. um I think he's really kind of planted the flag to be the number one. And and if he keeps kind of performing the next little while, there's no reason to drop him. I even went busy on his back.
Managerial Prospects and Challenges
00:05:43
Glennon
And we've been saying that as a part for a while, like, you know, Keller really has secured himself in the in the minutes that he's got with Liverpool to deserve that jersey.
00:05:47
Rob
Okay.
00:05:50
killianginnity
and now The only thing is, he just needs to get more minutes to to consistently justify it. um But while Bazoon is out, as long as he can try to make it his own, um he should be given the benefit benefit of the doubt. I think I'd love John O'Shea to have been the man. But he's not. I think it's a continuation appointment from Kenny. There hasn't been a new manager-bounds. There hasn't been a fresh impetus or new ideas.
00:06:21
killianginnity
um The only freshness that's been brought to us squad is Sammy Smarkz and Jake O'Brien.
00:06:27
Glennon
It was nice to see him and what's worrying is, I know we were joking about it for a long time being like, there'll be a national call up to be the Ireland manager for a week, but the only name I've heard in the last couple of weeks is Billage and A, I don't think he's the guy, B, I don't think he'd want it.
00:06:50
killianginnity
So the issue of billages, he has offers on the table, including I think it's Fenner Batche. So like, if he's, if he was to take a job,
00:06:58
Glennon
Oh, he he was offered Mourinho's gig.
00:07:01
killianginnity
ah ah take possibly it was definitely a Turkish job I'm not sure which one it was one that he was at before and so it it'd be in if he was to take the Ireland job and I don't think he will but if he was he would be turning down good positions which would be very kind of heartening and make you kind of believe that there is a little bit of
00:07:06
Glennon
Interesting.
00:07:24
killianginnity
hope left. like i was I was absolutely disgusted when jet Jesse Marsh went to Canada and he hadn't even been even linked to the Ireland job. Whatever you think of him as a coach, that's the level that we should be aiming for. He's after leaving a Premier League club, why aren't we getting an interview with him? Not to say that there hasn't been, but there should have been a lot more vocal conversations around him and there wasn't.
00:07:45
Glennon
i I think geography got in the way of that one. I think he he wanted to be back home and closer to the States and I couldn't have seen him unless we allowed him fly in and out. I don't see him. He would have been able to to live in Ireland.
00:07:58
killianginnity
Well, I do want to see this this thing. I think they're just going to have to swallow their pride in this. and You can either have a coach that's going to live in Ireland, or you can have a good coach.
00:08:07
Glennon
Well, i I don't see the need for them to be in Ireland.
00:08:07
killianginnity
ah
00:08:09
Glennon
I think if any, if anything, all every one of our players plays in the UK, they should be based there.
00:08:14
Rob
Thank
00:08:15
Glennon
I don't see why the hell they need to be here. And, you know, one thing that i I was thinking about during the game, because God knows my mind drifted during that game, was it's kind of ironic that the time where the League of Ireland has had the biggest glow up probably in its history has kind of come at a time where the Irish team is just out of complete
00:08:20
Rob
you.
00:08:34
Glennon
kind of gone off a cliff situation. And it's if anything, you'd love to see more League of Ireland players breaking in because of that. you know
Missed Opportunities in Team Selection
00:08:43
killianginnity
I just think the quality difference just isn't there.
00:08:46
Rob
Okay.
00:08:46
killianginnity
So I'd love to see a note. You might kind of, you ah you you might actually be for this idea. I'd love to see the likes of an Ireland B team come back, kind of just have a few kind of friendlies to bring true, uh, older guys that like a Jackburn. He's not actually really good enough to be in the Ireland squad, but he might be if we needed him, if you know what I mean.
00:09:11
Nate
Yeah, um I think that would be a good idea. The thing that sort of doesn't sit well with me currently is we've now had two, well we haven't played second game yet, but we've had two international windows now where it feels like we haven't even tried anything really. and like I'm looking at the bench yesterday, I'm looking at Jacob Bryan, I'm looking at even league scales. I know he wasn't the best when he came on. and you know You got Tom Cannon who just got called up like He showed his ass off.
00:09:43
Nate
Like, Jake O'Brien, like, this lad should have been in the Ireland squad last time out playing. But I just feel like we're, yeah, like, this guy's getting linked with Juventus.
00:09:55
Glennon
It's very Kenny football.
00:09:58
Nate
Like, he seems to be a main step in that Leon team that definitely got off to a rough start of the season. Like, get this,
00:10:07
killianginnity
It took until his second camp to get a cap and their friendlies cost nothing to give them.
00:10:11
Nate
Like, it's a joke.
00:10:11
Glennon
if he was If he was Premier League, if he was in the Premier League, I don't think it would have taken
Coaching Styles and Philosophies
00:10:15
Glennon
this long. I really don't.
00:10:16
Nate
But like, he's getting linked with the event. It's like, this lad clearly has talent. Get him in, get him integrated. what What are we waiting for? Like,
00:10:25
Glennon
If Ireland ever had a player to play for Juventus, was Brady at Juventus?
00:10:25
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:10:29
Rob
when you paid for parenttheia
00:10:29
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:10:31
Nate
Tom Cannon.
00:10:31
Glennon
Jesus, ah you're in good company there.
00:10:32
Rob
Yeah.
00:10:33
Nate
Tom Cannon, get him a cap.
00:10:33
Rob
yeah
00:10:35
Nate
Like, you know what I mean? Like, he could still go declare for England tomorrow. Like, get him a cap. Do you know what I mean? i just don't get
00:10:42
Glennon
Yeah, like, I don't know about you Robbie, you kind of followed Kenny a bit closer than the rest of us, but it seems same old, same old.
00:10:42
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:10:51
Rob
Yeah, I don't think he'd be as for Shay. I think he'd be more... Like you say, he's like a modern coach, but he might be more of a Mick McCarthy, more of a pragmatist than Kenny. Like but one of the things that bothered me with Kenny where I think he got it very wrong.
00:11:04
Nate
I
00:11:05
Rob
And he didn't do this in club football follow with that. He was very stuck to a certain way of playing.
00:11:08
Nate
just don't get it
00:11:10
Rob
He loved to talk of the fact that we're playing great football. We have X amount of passes. We're doing this, we're doing that. and And there was no evidence of that on the pitch. and And he was asking certain players to play a way that I don't think suit with them. For example, like, remember last year when they lost to France and the ball was given away and Pavard scored and people were saying that was just like oh that was just a mistake that happens but that happened because Josh Cullen was encouraged to play football in every area of the pitch because Kenny was talking up this big game that aren't going to do that and and he gave the ball straight away and France scored and that's what that's what will happen at an elite level and we don't have
Irish Football Culture and Improvement Strategies
00:11:46
Rob
players really
00:11:47
Rob
that are that comfortable playing
Future Managerial Scenarios
00:11:49
Rob
that way. So I do think I would say he might be a bit more pragmatic. I think he might be closer to a Mick McCarthy type of guy. He seems very much like a man manager type of approach as well. And he obviously brought a lot of coaches in when he brought a guy in who worked with him at Birmingham. I think he still has that guy, Paddy McCarthy, that's a palace. So he had got good coaches around him. So maybe, and the players seemed to like him, which you can't always read too much into, but apart from Duffy and Daugherty both, like that they like like let's be honest, if you were putting a team out in September to play against England, like I'm starting with 35-year-old James Coleman, I had him at Daugherty and Jake.
00:12:18
Nate
Thank you.
00:12:26
killianginnity
Oh,
00:12:29
Glennon
100%.
00:12:30
Rob
jacob ryan or even scales are out or ama bannadeli anyone's starting to hit a duffy like duffy's not an elite player so i wouldn't worry too much with what those guys are saying but i don't know maybe i'm coming a bit around to the idea of a shade because i just don't i just don't see anyone else and the fact he wants it and the fact that we're probably not going to qualify for the world cup anyway like only 14 teams qualify from europe and we're not among the best 14 teams in europe so
00:12:34
killianginnity
yeah.
00:12:58
Glennon
When you put it like that, Jesus, that really put a kind of...
00:13:02
Rob
Yeah, we're a dysfunctional football nation and we have to qualify for the most competitive region.
00:13:08
Glennon
Yeah.
00:13:08
Rob
but If we could switch and qualify for the CONCACAF and go up against Jesse Marks and all those guys, it gives us a chance, but we're coming up against really, really good teams and I think, i think ah given the United Nations Day campaign, I'm making a fair amount of choice. I'd probably give them a one-year role and deal. but all the time in the background thinking of who was our ideal candidate, like maybe in two years time, Brendan Rodgers leaves South again, he doesn't get sell get a Premier League job. And someone like Rodgers is, I know he's not everyone's cup of tea, but he is an elite coach and he's Irish and he's an Irish nationalist stock. I think he'd he'd absolutely love that job. So at some point in his career, so that that's probably the way I'd be looking at it, a bit more pragmatic. And as Nate said, a couple of players like me actually stopped
00:13:52
Rob
and think about it. He's highly ready and for every distance we can get him fit again, he's ready. The midfield is still going to be an issue, with like a small bone, as you said, Kylian, or Josh Cole, and we're just not on a top level. We don't have anyone. We don't even have anyone like that guy, England, having their squad and Wharton, this young guy.
00:14:05
killianginnity
Hmm. Hmm.
00:14:08
Rob
So we're kind of still quite a few of them and I probably would just give Oce a year of contract just to have a respect for them and go like this and we can't keep calling them the interim manager. I think there might even be rules about that like workplace relation rules like you have to give a contract at some point like you can't just keep asking the command.
00:14:21
Glennon
yeah
00:14:26
Glennon
i think yeah I think you're right. I think give them a year deal, give it heavily incentivized to kind of boost performances.
00:14:30
Rob
Yeah.
00:14:32
Glennon
And ah one thing though, like, you know, I sit at the top of the show chemistry, like, I don't want to sound like Garret's okay, but when you look at that Ireland team, like, like the England lads, I know they're better players and they're a bigger tournament, so you're going to enjoy it more. But like the England lads look like they enjoy playing football. The Irish lads just seems like, oh yeah, whoever turns up for Sunday league, yeah, we'll just play as a team, you know?
00:14:54
Rob
Yeah.
00:14:55
killianginnity
It's so bad. and like Where I would actually hold John O'Shea massively, massively at fault here is ultimately he's tried nothing.
00:15:09
Nate
I agree.
00:15:09
killianginnity
He's tried nothing and he's all out of ideas. There was no way too safe.
00:15:12
Glennon
It's very safe
00:15:16
killianginnity
There was no kind of, like, let's, let's, we have nothing to lose here. and Let's just give this a go. There was no, like, go, go out by the seat of our pants. Let's die trying. There was nothing there that makes you kind of go, oh, I. I might want this guy like these are all resigned to John O'Shea rather than actually wanting him.
00:15:38
Rob
This reminds me of the Simpsons killing and Homer says to the kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is never try.
00:15:48
killianginnity
yeah Like he tried nothing and he's already out of ideas.
00:15:48
Rob
Ireland tried to play football, Stephen Kenny. It's like we tried, we were talking about passing triangles and overloads and playing tree at the back and we failed absolutely miserably. Just hoof up the pitch, honestly. get a man manager at in and just get our best players on the pitch. And I know it sounds very reductive, but I actually kind of, oh I think that's a good thing actually has it come out and start talking big or talking about the coaching it's doing.
00:16:16
Glennon
Yeah, he's just playing with what he's got.
00:16:18
Rob
Like I just feel unless we get someone elite level, like Brendan Rodgers or brendon rogers for I don't know, Marcelo Bielsa, like I do think, I think that might work in his favor and might make him a bit more adaptable.
00:16:29
Glennon
with with With managers like that, and just with the names you've put out there, right if we look at that Ireland team, where are they in the English football league, do
EURO 2024 Group Predictions: Groups A-D
00:16:37
Glennon
we think?
00:16:38
Rob
I think they're promotion chasing from their playoff team.
00:16:44
Nate
I think that's a bit...
00:16:44
Glennon
Championship.
00:16:44
killianginnity
I'm sure they're just on the level.
00:16:44
Rob
Yeah.
00:16:46
Glennon
I would have said like, I would have said like but mid to bottom half championship.
00:16:51
Nate
I'd say that as a...
00:16:52
Rob
But any of Evan Ferguson, and if I know he has me, but if he's on his form, he is a Champions League potential player.
00:16:52
killianginnity
Oh, no, they're.
00:16:57
Glennon
he's
00:16:59
Rob
like it's ah give give Give me that.
00:16:59
Glennon
Yeah.
00:16:59
Nate
lads, I...
00:16:59
killianginnity
Hmm. Well.
00:17:01
Rob
And Keller is very good too.
00:17:03
Nate
would...
00:17:03
Glennon
Killing. Where are you saying there?
00:17:05
killianginnity
I think Sunderland, anywhere from 15th to 5th, and and like in the Championship at the minute, of all of a sudden the one that kind of watches it the most, all it takes is four or five but four or five bad games and you've gone from 5th to 15th, because that's what happened to Sunderland, is you just go on a small bad run and then suddenly it looks like you've had a terrible season and you haven't. but like were it seems that they're waiting now to appoint a manager till after they're pointing a CEO or a solicitor because they're still actually searching for that job so maybe they can't actually sign the contract but if they're going to wait that long well then you might as well wait to the end of the euros or the end of the Olympics and go for the likes of a Willie Samuel or a Harvey Renard be a little bit inventive because other than that
00:17:51
killianginnity
They're not going to sell any tickets. They're like, this is from a business point of view, a serious issue. And one of the other things I'm i'm actually really, really shocked about it is they're just not doubling down and trying to get ah players of other nationalities to fill in these gaps. They should have been a much bigger push to get Jack McGlynn from America to fill in the small bone issue, like much bigger push to try and get Liam to lap to fill in for when Evan Ferguson is going to be inevitably injured. Nick Nate. I think you're kind of closer to me on this.
00:18:24
killianginnity
Like we should be either getting inventive with our managerial appointment or with picking our players.
00:18:25
Rob
Thanks.
00:18:30
killianginnity
Like the FAI have something to prove here.
00:18:32
Nate
Who or what is the FAO right now?
00:18:35
Glennon
i don't think they even know man
00:18:35
Nate
I think that's the big advantage.
00:18:36
Glennon
like
00:18:37
Nate
I treat my job application into the day for CEO, so I'm hoping to get back to me. But I really worry, and because of how badly this managerial service has gone, and then the CEO's jumped ship, and now it's just a mess, and I'm really actually scared for it. I just hope by the way it is right now, we can't attract a manager. but i need As you know, I love O'Shea, you know, i Legend, blah, blah, blah.
00:19:02
Glennon
I don't think they even know, man.
00:19:05
Nate
But with any bit of like expertise, and like the player-wise, we're lucky to take one or two players. I'm just, yeah, I'm just a little bit worried, to be honest.
00:19:21
killianginnity
Like, one of the things I really want to see of this search, and bear in mind, I don't know if it's just me. and
00:19:35
killianginnity
ah Sunderland and Ireland are both having serious issues. Like, Sunderland's over 100 days without i a manager now, a permanent manager, and Ireland's gonna be, like, most must be longer longer than that, much longer. and
00:19:51
Glennon
No one's floated will still for our manager just thinking I'm just thinking of something because he's been touted for you a lot.
00:19:55
killianginnity
he Yeah, and he apparently had said yes, and I was going to go to a test lens.
00:20:01
Glennon
All right, okay.
00:20:01
killianginnity
And so it's it's more it's a will still issue but like, that's what that's exactly what I was gonna say though is like, some of the names that are coming out now for Sunderland are a bit off off the page so there's like Janssen who used to be I think it was the AZ Alkamer or PSV coach and there was Liam Rossigner like these are all names that should be gettable for Ireland
00:20:30
Rob
i just I just think that the organization and the mess that it's in, the salary you can offer, Ireland's ranking, the fact that the whole team, there's no guarantee of success. You're only playing a couple of matches a year. It just it just seems like a hard sell for anyone, like to convince anyone, if that makes sense, to head home someone. Now, again, in three years' time, if we have a home Euros, that's a different story and a bigger budget and the association's on its feet again. But at the moment,
00:21:02
Rob
I do think it's someone like Chris Ewing or John O'Shea or random manager like Gus Poye, my chosen name and hat as he did. And really, I'd probably just rather O'Shea if it's going to be any of those guys because it's just the Meg as well. He's there now. Just give it to him for a year and then go from there because I don't think it's going to make or break the team or the association the way managers might have in the past I think we're going to be struggling regardless really we're probably at a certain level given just everything else that's going on.
00:21:38
Rob
I think we're nearly 70 in the world so yeah I would say yeah one year rolling contract for O'Shea and
00:21:41
Glennon
Lake.
00:21:44
Glennon
but Well, it's it's one of those ones as well. Like I do wonder, even if we had all the money in the world and we got some angel investor, like a Derma Desmond type, like if I'm Brandon Rogers, Ireland's a dumpster fire that I don't want to go near, especially not until closer to a World Cup, or at least where you've got some shot of getting something, you know.
00:22:01
killianginnity
That's why har Harvey Renard is the man because he just loves turning a sousier into a book sort but like a so silk and he he He did it in Saudi. He did very well in the World Cup. He's made the French women's national team fantastic going into the Olympics.
00:22:18
Rob
He could be next France manager killing the if but they shouldn't pass the leave eventually No one knows what sedan wants to do like sedan coffee wanting the club job Because he'll be France manager at any point if you want to
00:22:21
Glennon
Yeah.
00:22:31
Rob
like Renard is down the next top coach in the French association and yeah and it might not be a very cultural fit like I just yeah
00:22:34
Glennon
And if he comes to Ireland, he could absolutely dump his stock. Bad.
00:22:41
killianginnity
I don't know if the French rate him enough. I don't think they appreciate how good of a manager he is. and like It's telling when PSG isn't going for him. like the amount of managers that they've gone through and like they had your man from Nice after Nice won the legal a couple of years ago. So like they've been through them all and they just kind of drop them as they need. So I don't I don't know if France is necessarily in from there is going to be other teams in from because as is as happens with every tournament, and which brings us on nicely, there will be a mass exodus of coaches
00:23:24
killianginnity
and So we we might get to pick up a few names there that likes maybe like a Willy Sanyal or a Mad Friday.
00:23:29
Glennon
i ah demmi The only reason I won't really say I know isn't about episode three We called him as being the next our manager and I just want I just want to pull that clip But like I'd like it the other thing with the I'm all up for
00:23:36
Rob
yeah
00:23:38
killianginnity
yeah
00:23:42
Glennon
waiting to see like off the back of tournaments but like there's a little bit of a well if you're interested pray that why didn't you why did you throw your hat in the ring it's a bit kind of too little too late but I do think jokes are aside with the John O'Shane workplace rights like there's only so many times where they're gonna he's gonna he's gonna be called on and just go you know what go away you know
00:23:57
Rob
Thank you.
00:24:04
killianginnity
And we're going to say go away to Ireland for now because we actually have something exciting to talk about. Gentlemen, last week we did the carousel. We found out who our teams were going to be for the Euros. Nate, are you happier than you were last week because you weren't particularly happy with your choices?
00:24:25
Nate
Yeah, I'm a bit happier now. I gave Serbia a go on a football manager. I don't know, as bad as I thought.
00:24:34
killianginnity
Um, Rob, how have, how are your teams?
00:24:34
Nate
I jumped the gun a bit. I jumped the gun a bit.
00:24:41
killianginnity
Um, Belgium and Slovenia. Are you happy enough having had the chance to look at them?
00:24:47
Rob
No, no, it's something too terrible and not how the Slovenia I have in my predictor, which is obviously gonna be 100% accurate Slovenia going out in the group stage them Belgium have it Actually, I've i've since rejected my Belgium going out to Italy in the last 16. So I
00:25:04
killianginnity
ah we will We will get to that, so don' not don't reveal all.
00:25:05
Nate
So terrible.
00:25:07
Rob
Yeah.
00:25:08
killianginnity
At least Belgium have really nice kit inspired by, and yeah, which looks pretty damn sick and I would love to get get a cheapo now after the tournament.
00:25:11
Rob
Yeah, the tin-tin inspired kit, yeah.
00:25:20
killianginnity
um Connor, what about you? How are you looking with your teams?
00:25:23
Glennon
um I mean, look, getting France, i'm I'm obviously going to be there, thereabouts. Am I happy about it? No. But we are where we are. Poland, I ah won't go too into it until we kind of dig into it, but I don't think it's as far as people might have thought.
00:25:42
killianginnity
Um, but sure they have Mattie Cash. Did he get called up?
00:25:45
Rob
No, he's injured actually. the cant He has to have surgery so he's not in the squad.
00:25:51
killianginnity
Lovely. So ah you all you have is like Lewandowski and, and, chezne and Chesney and all that, all them. um i i'm I'm still kind of reasonably happy with with my ones. and I think it very much suits my personality, Ireland fans, London theland fan, and having Portugal and Czech Republic, so kind of nice middle of the roads. Like we might get something good, chances are we won't.
00:26:14
Nate
Fair enough I'm going.
00:26:17
killianginnity
and So what we will do though is we will kind of predict who we think the player term is going to be, Golden Glove, um dark horse and top uh top score but we leave that to the end because what we're actually going to go through now is we've all done our prediction for the tournament so gentlemen group stages group a rob what was your positionings one two three four
00:26:43
Rob
I have Jeremy Copnath with Constable. nine points Switzerland in second with four points I think I don't think Scotland they're going to do much I think Scotland with two and then Hungary who fell to Ireland and last place at one point I think um generally it'd be Scotland come for your first night and then that would be Hungary go through like Scotland, Switzerland might pick up a job but I just you look to the Scotland squad they've no They've no quality of front, really. And like they have got me Tommy's like their main goal track.
00:27:16
Rob
Even again, he was a good player. And obviously Andy Robertson, but I just, I can't see them doing much. And Scotland have never, I could be wrong, they've never got out of group stage at an international tournament. And I think that will, that will continue.
00:27:27
Glennon
I don't think they have
00:27:29
Rob
I just, I can't see it. And as much as I kind of would like them to do a well, but I just can't see it.
00:27:34
Glennon
I'm going the flip i'm goingm kind of going on the flip at you. i i'm i'm I'm going with the Celtic ah and nature of myself and I've got a 1, 2, 3, 4 of Germany, Scotland, Switzerland, Hungary, but I think you're probably more right than I.
00:27:49
killianginnity
Can I have the same same as you? ah Scotland, I think, are gonna get second with four points. I think they'll sneak maybe a away and against the likes of Hungary. Like, if we can do it, anybody can. What about you now?
00:27:59
Glennon
they're also going to bring an absolute militia of fans. So I think if they get i think that if they get across the line, it's merely because of sheer vibes.
00:28:02
Rob
yeah
00:28:07
Rob
Yeah They have been going qualify inside like they did really well in qualifying it's just
00:28:08
Nate
um I don't
00:28:13
Rob
I just think the quality will eventually tell. But the Scotland family throwing around and saying we're idiots because they beat Spain and qualifying. They beat Norway. So they they are good. It's just, I just can't see it.
00:28:24
Glennon
Are you joining the Scottish Mafia with myself and Killian Knight? What are you saying?
00:28:28
Nate
know. I've got a Germany, Switzerland, Scotland and Hungary who just lost to John O'Jays.
00:28:36
killianginnity
Yeah. So we're 50-50 on them.
00:28:38
Nate
so Yeah, we'll see you in the drawing.
00:28:41
killianginnity
like We're all in and around the same though. and Rob, back to you for group B.
00:28:47
Rob
Yeah, I've spanned pop in the group, but this is actually in my predictor game here comic game the XLG it's quite an
00:28:48
killianginnity
One to four.
00:28:56
Rob
It's all all teams finished on five points. Spain, Croatia, Italy all have five points. Albania, zero points. And just by the way, I went through it. Spain got your gold difference. Croatia, second place, and Italy. But Croatia, and I explained they won't be great gold scores. I think they'll go crash out again and do an unfancy team like they have the last couple of years, like against Russia in the World Cup or and against Morocco in the last World Cup. And I just don't think they probably have enough goals in them. And then Croatia are just a tournament team.
00:29:27
Rob
Croatia are the ultimate tournament team. Every tournament I can remember going back. I don't know what you can say as long as much as football tournaments, but they've always done well. And it just, they just seem to raise the occasions. I think they'll go through.
00:29:38
killianginnity
You've been watching since they became a country.
00:29:40
Rob
I watched them forced in Euro 96 when I was a small kid.
00:29:40
Glennon
Heh.
00:29:43
Rob
So that's how long ago it was.
00:29:47
Rob
And got, they got there? They got to, I think they said the quarterfinals or the semi-finals. Yeah, they always do all we still well. And then Italy are going to be interesting to watch slate because Spiletti is their manager. And anyone who remembers him at Napoli, you won the league under him for the first time. He's a very kind of modern, high pressing, tackle football type of coach. And Italy were great to watch the last tournament, but again, don't really have a great striker. So we've Italy gone through and tore a place. But I think it could, any three of those, you could mix up.
00:30:18
Rob
I think any one could pop up.
00:30:18
Glennon
It really is. it's It's one of probably the group of death in it. And, you know, I think for me, I'm pretty much Spain again.
00:30:26
Rob
Thank
00:30:28
Glennon
I think they'll run away with that group. I think Italy might surprise people. I have them in second, but I wouldn't be. It's kind of, it's either Croatia, Italy in second for me. I've gone Italy, Croatia third in third and Albania with zero points.
00:30:42
killianginnity
I have kind of booked the trend. I think Italy aren't going to do particularly well. um And I have Croatia top on goal difference by a goal, by scoring one more goal, basically.
00:30:51
Nate
wolf
00:30:54
killianginnity
then Croatia, Spain, Italy, Albania, and then on zero.
00:30:55
Rob
you.
00:30:59
killianginnity
Nate, what do you think?
00:30:59
Glennon
When you said book in the trend, I thought you were going to be like Albania or in the group and I was like, okay, all right.
00:31:02
Rob
Yeah.
00:31:04
Glennon
What are you saying?
00:31:06
Nate
I have Spain tops the group, Italy, 2nd, Croatia, 3rd, Albania, 4th, but it is, it's one of those groups that like one fixture will throw it all at us on.
00:31:13
Glennon
Good lad.
00:31:21
Rob
I think it would be worth keeping on if you're a manager. So the only way to say for Arsenal, he has one of those that you can imagine.
00:31:26
Glennon
I remember him, Jesus.
00:31:28
Rob
Yeah, you could be thrown into the mix to be next oil manager, but like a Willie Sadio clip character might not happen.
00:31:31
Nate
Jesus.
00:31:33
Glennon
Yeah.
00:31:34
Rob
But I was reading there that he's done so well that he's been given Albanian citizenship. So he's done pretty well in the frame. so So maybe they're not as terrible as we're saying, but that is a tough group. It's a stinker group for them.
00:31:49
killianginnity
Yeah, right, Rob, back to you for Group C. This is where we're going to have our first rivalry group with two of the selected teams, Slovenia and Serbia being in this one. So what you got for us?
00:32:02
Rob
I have England popping it. As usual England get a relatively easy group. They've left out Grealish, Maguire, Madison. but All of them justify it. Maguire hasn't got fit. and Grealish hasn't been good enough and he should probably really evaluate his career and his awards sitting on the bench from Man City and Madison's form hasn't been good enough but England have such a great squad like Southgate could play different teams in these matches and they still go through so England pop Denmark second with six points but actually now that I look at that we weren't great at the last World Cup so and Serbia have got a lot of goals in them but I just have to add Marchella and Serbia are like a combustible team like they have lots of goals
00:32:40
Rob
They've mitched a bit, they've latched a bit, they've lots of talented players, but they you have the talent to finish second, but I would say I have them floored. And then Slovenia, who's one of my teams, they're going to be on the first flight home, so they're doing nothing.
00:32:54
Glennon
I'm the same as you, Robbie.
00:32:54
killianginnity
Paul.
00:32:56
Glennon
I'm the exact same order. I think I was slightly skewed in the Danish point, having a good bit of Danish family and my family, but yeah, no, I think you're right in the Serbian analysis there. They have a lot of potential, but there's a lot of fire in that team and there's a lot of... <unk>t I don't even know how to describe it. It's just a bit of a, you don't know what you're going to get until you see a situation. But I think, I think Denmark, you know, Erickson got a good goal.
00:33:21
Rob
Okay.
00:33:22
Glennon
Was it last night or the night before? It was great to see him score in the stadium that he'd had a heart attack in actually. So that was, that was lovely to see. Um, but yeah, I think you're right. What are you saying, Killian?
00:33:33
killianginnity
uh England top um with seven points I don't think they're gonna win all the games um because there's there's gonna be some headline from the sun saying that they all need to be executed when they come home it it happens it's it's it's a rite of passage I think Serbia gonna come second with six points though like I think they're a very strong team and they're just one of these teams that you could just They're like a lesser Croatia. You can never write them off than Denmark and Slovenia. And then in this sort the Serbia-Slovenia game, i've so Serbia winning 2-0, much to Nate's delight. What are you saying, Nate?
00:34:06
Nate
Okay, mine's filled with no boys whatsoever. So I've got a Serbia top of the group with Warwrights guys. and No, serious? I've got England top, Serbia second, Denmark third and Slovenia fourth. But I might try on a cheeky back Serbia to have three red guys on the group stage.
00:34:28
Glennon
i'm I'm thrown out there just in in terms of Killian's headline.
00:34:28
killianginnity
Cool.
00:34:31
Glennon
I think that Bowie team for England will be Denmark.
00:34:36
Rob
yeah like
00:34:36
Glennon
Calling it now.
00:34:36
Rob
They barely beat him in the last year, it was a bit of a dive from Sterling and then they came.
00:34:37
Nate
ah he to
00:34:44
Rob
I think he missed the penalty and scored the rebound in the semi-finals.
00:34:46
Glennon
Yeah.
00:34:48
Rob
I think England will stroll to this. They won't be entertained to watch, even though he fell in harm. all these guys but I think they'll just kind of make light work.
00:34:56
Nate
I
00:34:58
Rob
Serbia will be good to watch. I remember watching the World Cup in Russia and he played Switzerland and it was like a derby because the Swiss had so many like players of Albanian descent and it was ah one of the best matches I watched at the tournament.
00:35:02
Nate
hate doing that.
00:35:08
Glennon
Oh, right.
00:35:09
killianginnity
Mm.
00:35:12
Rob
They were kicking lumps out of each other so in Serbia I think we were a good team to watch.
00:35:17
Nate
I think Serbia might actually have a failed day on that England defence. Just because they're firepower.
00:35:21
Rob
Yeah but that
00:35:23
Nate
like
00:35:24
Rob
that is a question though like what's going to happen now like England's defense has always been strong but they're probably going to have Trippier at left back and they might have Conte who's a good player for Villa like he he has to shuffle the pack more than he would like and he doesn't have his safety blanket so he doesn't have Maguire who's always good in these tournaments yeah
00:35:41
Glennon
I'm amazed at that. and and i think I personally do think he would have brought him if it wouldn't have caused a bit of a press storm. I think if that was any other play if there was any other player, he would have been on that plane, but I'm amazed that Slabhead himself is not making the plane.
00:35:56
killianginnity
Well, it's the Slobhead rivalry.
00:35:57
Rob
that's what
00:35:58
killianginnity
It would be Mitrovich versus Maguire. like we're We're missing out on generational football here.
00:36:00
Nate
I'm
00:36:01
Rob
That would have been box office. That would have been box office. waiting and like I talked here, but I'm looking at the odds. Like, they're tricking me to win the tournament, and it's not my bias, because I'm not biased against England.
00:36:10
killianginnity
Oof.
00:36:13
Rob
I always, like, enjoy watching them being built up and then just fall and just near the end, nothing against them. It's just funny to watch, like, as an Irish person.
00:36:19
Nate
sorry.
00:36:22
Rob
But I don't know if they're as good, they're not as strong going into this tournament, I don't think. Like, if you look at their squad,
00:36:26
Glennon
after have them after have them favorites at like i think 19.9 percent in france at 19.1 but i i think after is english
00:36:29
Rob
I just... I can't see it. Yeah, I can't see it.
00:36:35
Nate
Yeah.
00:36:35
Rob
Like, Trippier, as you know, as a Newcastle fan, he has been injured and he's only come back and looked a bit ropey. Then Luke Shaw's their only left-back.
00:36:42
killianginnity
There's talks to play in a left bank.
00:36:44
Rob
Yeah, Luke Shaw's their only actual, natural left-back. He has to play at night with bit Italian months. Like, and Lewis Donkas goes for Bryant, but Bryant, we've seen a lot of goals. Mark Gahy, I'm looking here, Khan says a good player, but there's no, like, not like If you compare out the Francis defence with Saliba and these guys, like it just but if there is a and notable difference, I think, and England's defence has always been great, but if you go through it, it doesn't, to me it looks very unbalanced.
00:37:09
Glennon
I think if i think you know we'll see as this bracket pans out. We all, I'd imagine, have England going pretty far. But like I think you know Walker's nailed on to be in that team because he's the only one that can deal with pace, you know whether it whether it's Mbappe or whoever, if if that England-France game does come up.
00:37:21
Rob
yeah
00:37:26
Glennon
But yeah, it is it's definitely their most worrying area because they're attackingly so good.
00:37:32
killianginnity
Group D, Rob, what are we saying? This is another rivalry one. This is the Connors own internal rivalry of France, Poland, Netherlands, and Austria.
00:37:38
Glennon
Yeah.
00:37:39
Rob
Yeah, well it's going to go the way the qualification men, because France and Netherlands were in Ireland's group when France topped it, and they hammered the Dutch in the fourth match, I think that's not an exact score, but they hammered them in the fourth qualifier. I remember we watched the Netherlands and France against Ireland at the Aviva last year and so so like He didn't play well, but the players were so good. It was like they're playing a different sport. Antoine Griezmann is just absolutely brilliant. like I think he's probably one of my picks to be a player in the tournament. I think he'll have a life for yourself. France will definitely top it comfortably. It won't be entertaining. like I haven't seen much of Austria, but ah it does look like they're doing well. And I think René got a tough time, at you night and he's a decent enough coach. so
00:38:27
Rob
I'm not really convinced by Ronald Kuhlman and I think the Dutch. I have to finish the second here but it's literally because they scored one more goal than Austria. So France and Netherlands, Austria and then Poland going out in the group stages.
00:38:40
Glennon
I'm not far off here.
00:38:40
killianginnity
Bye.
00:38:41
Glennon
I've got France, Netherlands, Poland, Austria. I do think it'll be interesting to see Ralph Ragnick and how they go. Obviously, Poland have Lewandowski, but they never seem to really be able to figure it out at major tournaments. And there's something about the Dutch. Again, that's a bit of a Serbia situation or in Italy at the same time where you just don't know what you're going to get until it happens. I don't even think they know.
00:39:09
killianginnity
Yeah. i Um, I have France obviously topping it, but I have France at nine points and then the other three teams get two points each.
00:39:15
Glennon
Oh!
00:39:16
killianginnity
Um, so I think it'd be France, Poland, Netherlands, and Austria. Um, just down to France kind of dominating and the rest of them just kind of eking true.
00:39:29
Nate
and Yeah, I feel like you boys haven't helped me here with my bias claims, but I've got a Netherlands top in the group, Fran 2nd, Poland 3rd, Austria 4th
00:39:38
Glennon
Oh my Christ.
00:39:39
killianginnity
Whoa. yeah
00:39:44
Glennon
Where do you think France are gonna mess up?
00:39:47
Nate
against the Netherlands.
00:39:48
Glennon
Interesting.
00:39:51
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:39:52
Nate
i not
00:39:52
Glennon
Don't see it. I i think they're gonna make this tournament a memorable one for them, I think.
00:39:53
Nate
yeah
00:39:57
Glennon
ah really Not because I have France, like I said, I really wish I didn't get the boost. Yeah, i just it's hard to see past them, absolutely blitzing that. but Especially with Mbappe, probably happier than it's ever been to be out of the shackles of PSG.
00:40:13
killianginnity
Plus they have the ghost of the World Cup to exercise.
00:40:13
Nate
prepare
00:40:13
Rob
yeah
00:40:15
Nate
prepare for an i told you so fellow
00:40:19
killianginnity
Rob Groupie, this is one of your
EURO 2024 Group Predictions: Groups E-F
00:40:22
killianginnity
teams here.
00:40:22
Rob
Yeah.
00:40:22
killianginnity
but Belgium, Slovakia, Ukraine, and Romania.
00:40:26
Rob
So I have Belgium popping in. I think this is one of the weakest groups. So if you're crying second but not necessarily because you don't have them brilliant, just have them second.
00:40:34
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:40:35
Rob
Remaining it in toward with two points and Slovakia at last at one point I think.
00:40:39
Nate
prepare prepare for an I told you so
00:40:40
Rob
And Belgium, they obviously haven't got, they haven't even got Cottowar for some reason. He's not in the squad because he's been injured most of of the season. So he's not there. We still have to Brian it, still i have Lukaku and good, wherever that that can be good um by and And they have a kind of a lot of guys that will be of used to like Tossart or Carrasco or
00:41:00
Nate
you
00:41:01
Rob
Kostanya and then 37-year-old Jan Drathongan I think is still in this squad. So I think they will get through the group and not because they're particularly great. They'll just pop up because they're better than those other guys.
00:41:15
Glennon
I agree with Robbie, I think it's it's a bit of a, it's probably the lightest group. Surprised England didn't get it. um I'm going Belgium, Ukraine, Slovakia, Romania. um Again, Ukraine, Slovakia, that could easily be a swap there, but yeah, Belgium, Ukraine, Slovakia, Romania.
00:41:32
killianginnity
I have Belgium, Slovakia, Ukraine and Romania. Romania not to pick up any points. And Slovakia and Ukraine to be level. Both beating Romania and then drawing against each other and losing to Belgium. So it's just kind of, it kind of makes itself. I don't think any of the wins will be particularly convincing though. What about you Nate?
00:41:51
Nate
I have Belgium, Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania. I think, yeah. But then again, like la I could see Romania beating Belgium, you know what I mean? I don't think and don't think the gloves that big.
00:42:02
Rob
Thank
00:42:04
Nate
I really don't. I think on the day they could beat them, but that's how I have it.
00:42:09
killianginnity
Yeah, it's so it's a weak Belgium team.
00:42:11
Glennon
There was a strong argument for for Belgium not to be considered ah a top profile team or a top tier team by none other than then Mr.
00:42:11
killianginnity
and now
00:42:17
Nate
and I don't know who that came from.
00:42:18
Rob
you.
00:42:18
Glennon
Nade.
00:42:20
killianginnity
yeah The ruckions before the last episode, put before we did the the carousel, but we move on to group F, the Killian rivalry group with Portugal, Czech Republic, Turkey, and Georgia. um Rob, what's your placings?
00:42:36
Rob
Portugal will cruise to this and nine points probably on the you can see the goal I would say and They have such a strange squad and such a strange strange team like they've all these superstars at the height of their career In every position or then centre half and up front like so the Pepe who's like 41 centre half Ronaldo front who's 40 next February and then you have like Bernardo Silver and all these guys and and
00:42:42
killianginnity
Goof.
00:43:02
Rob
and Bruno Fernandez, and Diogo Jota might start, and all these great empires, so a bit of a strange squad, but I think Martinez will do well with them. I think he's a better coach than people are giving him credit for. And so I think Belgium will pop it, and Portugal will pop it, and then Corki, I have them in second, with like two points, because I think Corki, Czech Republic, and Georgia are probably all just not take points off each other. So, Portugal, Corki, Czech Republic, and Georgia.
00:43:29
Glennon
Again, it seems like we've top and bottom always a line Robbie. I've got Portugal, Czech, Turkey and Georgia.
00:43:34
Rob
Yeah.
00:43:38
Glennon
Turkey are one of those teams. They surprise you in major tournaments and always seem to a have wildfire games with about 15 yellows and then and and some big results.
00:43:49
killianginnity
I have not as convincingly a top Portugal. So I actually have Portugal and Turkey level on seven points a piece.
00:43:58
Glennon
Jesus, you love you love a bit of spies, don't you?
00:43:58
Nate
That's great. and That's wild.
00:44:02
killianginnity
And i just goal difference keeping Portugal top. and Just because, like like you said, Turkey won these teams that like I remember was it 2016 that they were being tipped to win and then
00:44:13
Rob
All that was got the dark horses and it was like share tip them as a dark horse before the first match.
00:44:15
killianginnity
Yeah. i Yeah. And I was completely on the hype trinks. Like my, yeah, my my earliest, like some of my earliest football memories of being like able to follow up, it was Euro 2008.
00:44:20
Rob
And Italy beat them 3-0.
00:44:29
killianginnity
And it was that kind of like with Nihat and Tunchai Stanley and Dremel. And like they they were such a good team. So I completely bought into the hype. So, but they always managed to falter when it actually matters, but they'll do well in the groups. and then I have Czech Republic and then Georgia and I think that this might be a little bit more hopeful than anything I don't think they're gonna score a goal and that would just really really beat Willy Sanyol like a 1950s housewife just enough that he thinks that Ireland is a good job for him.
00:45:02
killianginnity
What do you think Nate?
00:45:02
Rob
Thank
00:45:03
Nate
and as I think you're sleeping on your own day in Portugal, that's what I think.
00:45:07
Rob
you.
00:45:09
Nate
I've got Portugal top, Turkey second, Czech Republic third and Georgia fourth. and Czech Republic, I could see them making a maybe a result against Turkey, me maybe. um yeah The Euros are weird like that. like it's Usually the two middle teams, they can eat it either
Knockout Stage Predictions
00:45:31
Nate
or take points off each other.
00:45:32
Glennon
yeah
00:45:34
Nate
That's just how I'd have a coin flip.
00:45:37
killianginnity
Right, gentlemen, this brings us on to our rounds of 16s. This is where users are going to, we'll go through one each. um Users will have to tell me the teams because the third place will be different depending on how we've all placed them.
00:45:54
Glennon
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:54
killianginnity
So in your first round of 16, Rob, who do you have?
00:45:59
Rob
saying one remain well of Spain beaten Romania by wherever score that might be.
00:46:05
killianginnity
Oh, right, Romania got true.
00:46:08
Glennon
I've spain turkey.
00:46:10
killianginnity
um I have Croatia, Ukraine, tree tree one to Croatia.
00:46:15
Nate
I have Germany beating my beloved Serbia to one.
00:46:21
killianginnity
Rub.
00:46:23
Rob
Like Germany beating Denmark.
00:46:26
killianginnity
Okay.
00:46:26
Glennon
I'm the same. Germany beating my beloved Denmark.
00:46:30
killianginnity
Have Germany beaten Serbia?
00:46:33
Nate
I have Italy beating Switzerland.
00:46:38
killianginnity
Oh, Rob.
00:46:41
Rob
Portugal beat Serbia in my next one.
00:46:44
Glennon
I got Portugal beating Croatia.
00:46:47
killianginnity
Portugal beaten Switzerland.
00:46:49
Nate
ah Spain. was Spain beating Scotland.
00:46:52
killianginnity
Oh, that'd be a very interesting matchup, Rob.
00:46:55
Glennon
For a second I thought you said Scotland beating Spain and I was like oh my life.
00:46:57
Nate
and
00:46:58
Glennon
ah Same.
00:47:03
Rob
of Netherlands beating Ukraine in my next one.
00:47:06
killianginnity
Uh, I have Poland beat in Slovakia.
00:47:09
Rob
That sounds like a stinker.
00:47:09
Nate
I've any...
00:47:12
Rob
I will not be watching that.
00:47:14
Glennon
ah That's not to be they'll be putting sadly or I would on on or do you to do that one?
00:47:21
Nate
I have England beating Poland.
00:47:24
killianginnity
Oh, that'd be a pretty good match.
00:47:24
Glennon
Oh We are is this the fifth one is it yeah, okay, I have Belgium beaten Serbia.
00:47:27
killianginnity
Rob.
00:47:28
Rob
I have Italy beating Belgium.
00:47:35
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:47:40
killianginnity
I also have Italy beating Belgium, but it's after a nil, nil, and they beat them on melodies.
00:47:42
Glennon
Oh
00:47:45
Glennon
o
00:47:46
Nate
I have Portugal beating Denmark.
00:47:49
killianginnity
Ooh. Next one, Rob.
00:47:52
Rob
I France beat in Turkey.
00:47:55
Glennon
France beaten Czech.
00:47:57
killianginnity
France beating Turkey 4-0.
00:47:59
Nate
I've France beaten Slovakia.
00:48:02
killianginnity
Oh god, a stinker.
00:48:06
Rob
England be actually my next.
00:48:08
Glennon
I've England absolutely hammering Slovakia.
00:48:13
Nate
I have also sorry i've Croatia beaten Belgium.
00:48:13
killianginnity
in England scraping true against Czech Republic.
00:48:20
killianginnity
I have Spain trouncing Scotland.
00:48:23
Rob
um And my last one, I've Croatia beat in Switzerland.
00:48:27
Glennon
I have Scotland and Italy drawn with Italy going through on pants.
00:48:36
Nate
And I have Netherlands smashing turkey.
00:48:40
killianginnity
Right, quarter finals. First one, Rob, who do we got?
00:48:44
Rob
thank Germany beat Spain.
00:48:46
Glennon
so Same.
00:48:47
killianginnity
Germany beating Croatia.
00:48:49
Nate
I have Germany meeting Spain too.
00:48:51
killianginnity
<unk> Rob.
00:48:53
Rob
Next one is Portugal being Netherlands Next one is France beating Italy
00:48:55
Glennon
Same here.
00:48:57
killianginnity
Portugal beating Poland.
00:48:59
Nate
Portugal meeting France.
00:49:02
killianginnity
ah ah oh
00:49:02
Glennon
Okay, I see you.
00:49:05
killianginnity
France out of the quarter finals, isn't it?
00:49:08
Nate
Yeah.
00:49:12
Glennon
I have France beating Belgium.
00:49:15
killianginnity
France tree one over Italy.
00:49:17
Nate
My beloved Netherlands beaten Kaiser.
00:49:20
Glennon
Geez, you're really going spicy on this one. The two of yous are having a vindaloo.
00:49:25
Rob
Yeah, my next one is England being Croatia, the last waterfryer.
00:49:29
Glennon
Yeah, last quarter phone for me of England beating Italy, 1-0. full on catenachio ooooh
00:49:34
killianginnity
Spain beating it as spain be England 2-0.
00:49:39
Nate
I've England beaten Italy on penalties.
00:49:42
Glennon
okay I
00:49:42
killianginnity
Semi-final one, Rob.
00:49:44
Rob
I have Germany being Portugal and I just think being hosts, Germany will find a way through that. um how would end the match crying and Pepe will get sent off.
00:49:56
Glennon
could not have said it better if I tried I have the exact same outlook
00:50:01
killianginnity
I think Portugal, I'm gonna beat Germany one now.
00:50:05
Nate
Yeah, I'm right there with you, I think Portugal
00:50:06
Glennon
Oh, right, okay.
00:50:08
killianginnity
We are divided as a podcast.
00:50:12
Rob
And my next semi-finalist, Frank, being, and I think, and i I'm still unsure what England are favourite, but probably because a lots of people put money on them. That's often how it works but I like just think France will be England eight times out of ten. Probably nine times out of ten actually in a situation like this.
00:50:30
Glennon
I think I think mitt myself and Robert Kindred Spirits here, I'm the exact same.
00:50:33
Rob
Yeah.
00:50:36
killianginnity
I have France beating Spain to 1.
00:50:39
Nate
I have and Netherlands beating England. england
00:50:45
killianginnity
oh
00:50:45
Glennon
Oh wow, you are really going brave.
00:50:48
killianginnity
Right, final rub.
00:50:50
Rob
Final on Berlin on July 14th, Germany loses 1-0 to France. I think it will be yeah France will score from a corner or something like that. But Germany will be proud because probably no one's tipping them to but I think France will beat them in that situation.
00:51:08
Glennon
I'm gonna say I've Germany France, I think Germany score first, France score late, probably Mbappe bringing to pens and France win on pens. And I win the sweepstakes and all as well in the world.
00:51:21
killianginnity
I do have you winning those sweepstakes, but I think it'll be France tree, Portugal one when Ronaldo get injured in the seventh minute and then screaming on the sideline like he did in 2016, but it's not going to work this time.
00:51:32
Glennon
Wouldn't be like him.
00:51:35
Nate
I have Portugal beating the Netherlands 3-1.
00:51:36
killianginnity
Nice.
00:51:40
Glennon
You've a Portugal Netherlands final.
00:51:40
Rob
Okay.
00:51:40
killianginnity
Oh.
00:51:42
Nate
yeah
00:51:43
Glennon
Oh my god.
00:51:45
killianginnity
Oh, I love your bread.
00:51:46
Nate
last that's
00:51:47
killianginnity
That's not going to happen, but I love it.
00:51:49
Nate
just right
00:51:49
Glennon
I will buy you dinner anywhere
Standout Players and Stars to Watch
00:51:51
Glennon
in Dublin if that happens.
00:51:51
Nate
okay okay no but
00:51:56
killianginnity
That's recorded by the way, Connor.
00:51:57
Nate
david
00:52:00
killianginnity
Um, right. So general consensus is France to win, um, from the pod with the dark horses of Portugal, apparently. Um, but is there any players that you think are going to stand out who like, just to kind of, if he's gone through squads now, is there any body that you think is just destined to be player of the tournament?
00:52:24
Glennon
I think it's hard to say with Player of the Tournament because, ah you know, obviously you've got the big ones like your Mbappes and your Griezmans and De Bruyne's and, you know, anywhere you want to go with that.
00:52:24
Nate
Thank you.
00:52:36
Glennon
But ah for me, I think it's going to be a surprise package. I think it's be one of those rando players that gets five goals and just goes in a bit of a tear. Who it is, where they're from, I do not know.
00:52:48
Rob
I like to look, I think Griezmann's class, I think he'll have a great tournament for France. He's always a big player for them. If France get that far, I think it might be him. I like Chua Maiming off France as well, he's classy, he's brilliant, I'm gonna watch them.
00:53:02
Glennon
Yeah. Camavinga too, possibly.
00:53:05
Rob
Yeah, my faith is stacked. And then if Croatia or something like that have a good run, or Belgium have a good run, there'd be lots of clamour for De Bruyne or Modrios, because it's probably their last tournament. And um again, Roger is probably caught me feeling now in Europe, but it depends on how Spain do.
00:53:24
Glennon
I forgot about Raji.
00:53:25
Rob
So, yeah, I haven't won. I'm not expecting that. He probably played this back to me, but this Bellingham, like I was disappointed in the matches. I watched him in the champions. He got the only score at all.
00:53:36
Glennon
Well, Challenge League finally got absolutely silenced. They had him in his pocket, or they they had him in their pocket.
00:53:39
Rob
He was, yeah. He was kind of a non-entity and he hasn't been much in the mock-up stage. He's only a kid, like he's 20, like he will get a lot better. He is top class, but this talk of Ballon d'Or and stuff, I just don't see it.
00:53:55
Glennon
If he'd scored in the final of the Challenge League, I think he was a shoo-in.
00:53:55
Rob
So, yeah, but his general play, I just thought, wasn't good enough. And he could be a bit, at the moment, like he will get better, but a bit of a flat-track bully, but I think i don't i don't i just don't I don't see him far in the way Dean might hope he might do, the way he really need did 20 years ago. or so Harry Kane doesn't really fire like that, he's just always very consistent, but I don't see Bellingham having a problem that a lot of people have tipped him to have.
00:54:26
Glennon
Kill anybody soon.
00:54:26
killianginnity
Pete. uh I think being very boring I think Mbappe is actually just gonna I think it's gonna be his tournament to prove a point heading over to Madrid kind of um like middle finger to not only PSG but the nation of France and kind of like the fact that Macron stood in on the last one and kind of go like listen this and I'm doing my own thing here and I'm gonna carry us and he's gonna have to love me um but like I do think that there's going to be a couple of players that are gonna
00:54:58
killianginnity
surprise people like I think Lamine Yamal for Spain he's only 16 I think he's actually gonna have a very very good tournament and like he's already doing well internationally at a stupidly young age and I think
00:55:11
Rob
Yeah.
00:55:12
Glennon
He surely won't start though.
00:55:14
killianginnity
I don't think it'll start in the first group group game, maybe not even the second one, but i think will be ah i know i think he I think Spain will have a little bit of a wobble and they'll throw him in and he'll end up kind of kind of kind of like what Renato Sanchez did for Portugal in 2016, that kind of like, oh, you've arrived.
00:55:21
Glennon
He'll get a run out.
00:55:36
Glennon
What's your vibe on your mile Robbie?
00:55:38
Rob
He's very talented, but it was more his team coming in like a bit on Bappi, and it was more like, but it could I think it should be his turn, it could be his turn. It's not for Bappi to prove anything to me, but I'd like to see him prove to people that he's not just the most talented footballer in the world, he actually is the best player in the world, and I have a little bit of a distinction between Bappi. I think he is the most talented player in the world, but I don't think he's been the best player and I don't think he can call anyone playing for PhD the best player in the world.
00:56:03
Nate
Thank
00:56:09
Rob
Like we've seen international tournaments in the past where a player kind of bends the tournament to their will, like Messi at the World Cup in Qatar really 20 years ago. Like this has been a common, like even James Rodriguez 10 years ago at the World Cup in Brazil, cameras Rodriguez, like I just don't think
00:56:25
Nate
you.
00:56:28
Rob
Mbappe has kind of done that yet and if he's not going to do it now, really and I just feel like he he is considered the most best player in the world but for me, I see him still more as the most talent and ah ah he needs to prove that he actually is the best player in the world and this is kind of his stage still because my friends don't have the body, he just doesn't seem to just get involved in the game at all and I just don't like that from him because he's capable of doing more. so
00:56:55
Glennon
It's like, it's like Ronaldo, you know, that he kind of went through a spell of just, just walking back. And I think that's, I think that's the one for me that I find curious when he goes to Madrid is he's a left-sided player.
00:56:59
Rob
Yeah.
00:57:05
Glennon
Vinny's a left-sided player who goes where, you know.
00:57:09
Rob
Yeah, Ronaldo is doing that in his mid-40s. I think Batman is 25, like 26. He's capable of doing more. and bring him I think he's been playing at probably, when I was watching for France, I think 50, 60% of us his actual li ability. And I just think if now is the time to actually show that and do what Sudan did in York's 1000th or do what Rooney did for those couple of games 20 years ago. So I still have my questions maxed out.
00:57:35
killianginnity
Nate, who's starting out for you?
00:57:39
Nate
Oh God, like feel it the judgment comment think brand often I but going to laugh every time he plays for a Portugal, he's scoring in the system.
00:57:44
Glennon
Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:57:51
Nate
I think over a whole tournament, I think we could properly see him in the play of the tournament. I think he could end up with four or five goals and a couple of assists. and
00:58:03
Glennon
I'd love him to get it. I just don't see it happening.
00:58:05
Nate
I really do. like you I can't stop scoring for his country. like It's crazy. m Also, for the Netherlands, and Chavi zevan Simmons, I think he could have a good tournament.
00:58:16
Glennon
Shout No way In
00:58:18
Nate
He's a tricky little player that I think could work in that Netherlands system. So, they'd be my two ones to watch. But, yeah, I think people might be sleeping on Bruno for the Euros.
00:58:27
Rob
I have one that will shock you guys that I think could be top scorer and his habits.
00:58:33
killianginnity
Oh.
00:58:34
Rob
Like, you got 14 goals for Arsenal last season.
00:58:35
Nate
That's crazy.
00:58:38
Rob
He's playing as a false line for Germany. Like, they have a home tournament.
00:58:41
Glennon
a home tournament
00:58:43
Rob
They've got kind of a clear path through. But you won't play in a league team until the quarterfinals. And yeah, I think I've had to be actually looking at it. It might be worth it, but I don't know what his odds are.
00:58:55
Glennon
Well, I think if if you pull that off, I think it's it's even bigger than you calling Jurgen Klopp leaving before he decided to leave, which I don't think we've ever given you your flowers for, but holy...
00:59:04
Rob
No, and I like got 2-0 in the Champions League final as well, so I won't try this for that.
00:59:08
Glennon
youre Yeah, geez, you know what?
00:59:10
Rob
I'm on a roll.
00:59:10
Glennon
I might be putting a tenner on Havertz after all.
00:59:13
Rob
Yeah.
00:59:14
killianginnity
Connor, top score.
00:59:16
Glennon
Oh, it's hard to see past Mbappe if he's in the mood. Outside of that, Kane could be up there, and depending on how far England go.
00:59:26
killianginnity
I'm kind of, I don't know why, I have a feeling this could be where Rafael Liao arrives for Portugal. I think he could do very well and
00:59:33
killianginnity
i'm kind of i don't know why i have a feeling this could be where rahalyo arrives for portugal ah think he could
00:59:40
Glennon
He had a very good year.
00:59:41
killianginnity
do very well and yeah i um he has kind of underwhelmed internationally so far and i think they can't rely on rinaldo uh just with his age and stuff and when you do have players like brino if he can be bothered and he seems to be bothered for portugal that he can assist and having the likes of jota and all that just having him as an advanced forward could be kind of like a match made in heaven and like baba will probably be up there but i do think the likes of a
01:00:12
killianginnity
ah like a Marcus Turram or something like that will sneak a couple of extra goals more than what people think.
01:00:17
Rob
Okay.
01:00:19
killianginnity
um Yeah, I can see Kane getting some goals.
01:00:21
Rob
Okay.
01:00:25
killianginnity
I can't see him doing well enough to be in contention for it.
01:00:28
Glennon
So my only rationale with with him is they've a relatively easy group. So if England can actually get some goals, he could get enough early that it carries him.
01:00:39
killianginnity
And to know who I think could get a few more goals than people think as well is um one of the Spanish strikers that people forget, like I think, and I always eat Perez or a jossaloo, or to a lesser extent, or a Marat, I think one of them will end up with like three or four goals, which is more than I think any of us would expect them to get.
01:00:59
Glennon
hundred percent ah thank god
01:00:59
killianginnity
Nate, who are you calling for gold golden shoe?
01:01:02
Rob
Thank
01:01:02
Nate
Um, I think Harry Kane, I just think he'll take about 55 penalties that will get him over the line.
01:01:08
killianginnity
Hahaha.
01:01:09
Rob
you.
01:01:10
Nate
Um, he'd be my pick to be honest, but yeah, maybe Bruno Fernandez. Thank you. on it that does Okay. Okay. I'm tight i'm taking the piss. All right. Okay.
01:01:24
Glennon
yeah
01:01:25
Nate
Okay. Well, like, Rio Fernandez has had 26 goals in 65 appearances for Portugal.
01:01:29
Rob
Bye.
01:01:30
Glennon
That is frighteningly good, yeah.
01:01:30
Nate
He's, in his last five games, I think he's had, yeah, he's had seven, seven goals or assists for Portugal. Like, he's gone in a good form.
01:01:44
killianginnity
Who do we think is going to be, um, who's kind of the best comparisons, uh, like DeMaria back in 2010, also back in 2010, like who is going to be the player that's going to make their name at the tournament, get a kind of a nice transfer move and then kind of falter to deceive the rest of his career. Think Cleberson like that. Who is going to be the Cleberson of, of Euro 2024, Rob?
01:02:05
Nate
Even.
01:02:09
Rob
I don't know if this is like a ah boring, nerdy answer, but I don't know if these, unless my United buy them, I don't know if these kind of tournament players exist anymore, like United, like someone would do all that touring and someone would snap them up like Leberson or Karol Boborsky for United in the 90s, like now there's so much, so how many data nerds and and scouts that it's just hard to kind of be hoodwinked on a player.
01:02:24
killianginnity
Cheers.
01:02:31
Rob
I would say, I don't think you'd flop, but I think Florian, Burtz for Germany will have a really good tournament and he's like linked with a lot of clothes he plays for Leverkusen so he'd be wanting to be keeping an eye on them but I don't know if they're still that kind of it used to be good like that tournament player but like actually you know he got caught by a little bit even though he redeemed himself with Amrba so I need to maybe come back to him now I don't know if there's anyone standing out
01:02:35
Glennon
yeah
01:02:42
Glennon
Yeah.
01:02:56
Glennon
i I think you're right, Robbie. I think those kind of standout players are more random South Americans in a World Cup, then a Euros kind of player for me.
01:03:06
Rob
Yeah.
01:03:07
Glennon
So I i don't see there being any major, major ones. There'll obviously be moves, don't get me wrong, but I don't see any standards.
01:03:14
killianginnity
Anybody comment to your mind Nate?
01:03:16
Nate
um No, not particularly. I'd agree with Connor that it's more like a World Cup style and the countries that maybe not have as much detail scouting. I think that's where you get the most. But no, there's no one known that's really coming to mind. But I can sense that you have someone in your
Surprise Packages and Data in Scouting
01:03:36
Nate
mind.
01:03:37
killianginnity
Yeah, like I think sesco is going to arrive. in this tournament, and in the sense that I don't think his team is going to do well, but I think it's going to make a load of people kind of go, oh, so that's why he's been linked. um Because he has been linked with some like major, major moves. like I think he's are kind of underestimating like the spread of players and the stupidity of teams. I think with all the data nerds being around, I think they're always trying to look for these extra little bits that may or may not actually exist in ah in a player. like How many times have we seen guys that just, on paper, yes, that should work? yeah like Look at West Ham with all older the strikers. How many of them have this sign that goes, like, Seb Haller, that should work? and Who was the Italian lad that had it? Was it Scarra?
01:04:34
Rob
Stromachka and he's got you played well for Atlanta then Atlanta then
01:04:35
killianginnity
umma yeah like he
01:04:39
killianginnity
Yeah like ah there's all these kind of guys that I think prove that no matter how much money you put into your your your scouts and stuff that you will still make these mistakes and I don't know
01:04:53
Glennon
I think it's a case, though. like There'll be big moves, but what's a big move? like there's There's not going to be a hammers to Madrid situation.
01:05:00
killianginnity
and i i don't No, I don't think it's gonna necessarily be a big move, but I think it's gonna be one of these players that like um has a good tournament and then is getting a move that six months ago he wouldn't have been linked with.
01:05:00
Glennon
you know
01:05:11
Glennon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:12
Nate
I'd say yeah Italy's quite open to that, I'd say.
01:05:12
killianginnity
like i think there's going to be
01:05:16
Nate
They've got like a lot of young players that are like, sort of have a name, sort of don't, but have a perceived high potential.
01:05:16
Rob
yeah Yeah.
01:05:25
Nate
Like I could see one of them getting a move after.
01:05:27
Rob
Like Bastoni, he's highly rated.
01:05:29
Nate
But yeah, I know, um did Scalvini get injured just before the tournament? Like he would have been one I'd keep my eye on.
01:05:37
Rob
Yeah. Key A's, I had a great tournament three years ago.
01:05:39
Glennon
Yeah, he did.
01:05:39
Rob
He hasn't played he hasn't played well since. and So that could be someone Chelsea waste a lot of money on. And yeah.
01:05:47
Glennon
I think it's going to be interesting with the FFP side of things as well.
01:05:47
killianginnity
i think think
01:05:50
Glennon
Cause like, you know, looking around the league, maybe it's just cause it's top of mind for Newcastle. There's a good five, six clubs that have to sell players by the end of June to not be in trouble. So I think I don't see there being, if there is moves, it won't be early in the summer.
01:06:07
Rob
Yeah.
01:06:07
killianginnity
I think, I think Bam Gartner from Leipzig in Austria. I think I can see him out i at a United or am ah like an AC Milan or something like that. Like he's at like Leipzig, so he's already at it at a good level. but i think somebody like him could get a nice kind of move that six months ago he might not necessarily have been linked to it. and But I also think someone out of Serbia or Slovenia, ah like look looking at Slovenia's team, like to have a good few players that are
01:06:40
killianginnity
playing over and kind of Eastern Europe or kind of like the odds leagues, and like zeskovich, he's a 21 year old midfielder for Sparta Timvana with one cap, does that not scream euros two goals and four games.
01:06:57
Glennon
Signs for AC Milan.
01:06:58
killianginnity
yeah and ends up doing grand for five years, getting them in the Champions League and moves on for 30 million. like i think I think there's going to be some kind of a move out of it.
01:07:09
Nate
I don't, I feel like, I feel like in football, we're like here at this point where like, so maybe we'll go get whacked by the three teams.
01:07:11
killianginnity
Zeskovich or Baumgardner, you've heard it here first.
01:07:19
Nate
It was like, do you know what I mean? Like, like, I don't know what I'd take from, from that, like, especially what would a scout take from that? Like, I just think, yeah, I think football's, football's a lot more boring these days, I think.
01:07:28
Rob
Yeah, they're usually very different.
01:07:34
Glennon
It is.
01:07:34
Rob
It is. but i meized a kid suer number I remember I remember Dabber Suker.
01:07:35
Nate
like
01:07:35
killianginnity
Well,
01:07:37
Glennon
Avar Suker. Yeah, yeah.
01:07:39
Rob
But he was a great player. He played for Rams and stuff. But then he went to Arsenal and didn't do that great. But he won the Golden Boot at the World Cup in 98. Karl Kiborski, all these guys who do well in tournaments. And then that would be your only memory of them. And then As Nate said, it it it is boring in the sense is it's very predictable.
01:07:58
killianginnity
Well, it's it's terrible when you have fans making lineup graphics of teams lawyers.
01:07:58
Rob
and
01:07:58
Nate
What?
01:08:06
Nate
Oh Jesus Christ.
01:08:06
killianginnity
um
01:08:07
Glennon
oh jesus here
01:08:07
Rob
that's where right it's
01:08:08
Nate
Please don't get me started on that. life
01:08:10
Rob
It's black black mirror stuff like this. is like
01:08:14
killianginnity
ah that is That is a video we should make is a black mirror football predictions, like how i awful.
01:08:21
Rob
But that's why I like these tournaments actually, because it its it is football it's like in the sense that it's fair. like Obviously, it doesn't like Ireland will never be as good as Brazil for millions and millions of reasons, but it is fair as far as it can be in the sense that, as I said, you can team like Portugal with all these superstars and the prime of their careers and you have a 42-year-old Pepe, a 41, and Ronaldo up front because he just refuses to be dropped and Roberto Martinez has to make the most of that.
01:08:43
Glennon
so
01:08:49
Rob
Or you've Spelletti at Italy, like he's trying to marry his style that he has at a club and then he's playing the card and like Benucci and Keilini and all these stalwarts and he's just trying to push shape on it and an injury can happen or whatever it might be. I just think international football tournaments are ah pure a purer form of football in the sense that it's not like a club game.
01:09:09
Glennon
Totally.
01:09:10
Rob
And that's why it appeals to me more because if Portugal were a club team, Pepe would be long gone. He'd be a legend then, I decided, working for a Portugal TV or something like that. He wouldn't be on the pitch if those days are gone. So that's what I like about it. That's why it's a kind of an antidote to Man City and all their lawyers and yeah all that nonsense. So that's why I'm looking forward to the Euros.
01:09:34
killianginnity
I think one of the exciting things for the year is just as we finish is also how many young players are actually there like there's some the squads are getting increasingly younger but like the fact that we're gonna get to see the likes of Javi Simmons even like a Hoyland to a lesser extent Jamal Musiala is a Guler from Madrid for Turkey like
01:09:37
Rob
Okay.
01:09:41
Glennon
Yeah.
01:09:49
Glennon
The now.
01:09:54
Glennon
Yep, already Guler.
01:09:55
Nate
Oh yeah.
01:09:57
killianginnity
um lamon like theyve The Spanish team has, I think, four or five lads under 20. It's going to be exciting.
01:10:04
Glennon
It must stink though, if you're one of those wonder kids and you're on a team like Turkey or just like for fucks sake, just why can't I be, you know?
01:10:12
killianginnity
Actually, here's here's a question for you. It's just as as we finish up because I have a very, very passionate answer on it. Would you rather be a very good player
01:10:20
Nate
Oh god.
01:10:23
killianginnity
and have an okay guess, maybe 20 or 30 caps for a nation or be a very good player and pay for a kind of a crap nation, but become an absolute and utter legend.
01:10:28
Glennon
Okay.
01:10:34
Glennon
I know exactly what you're thinking on this is, and I'd rather, I don't want to be the legend, but I have a bloody good feeling you'd play for Gamby if they rang in the morning.
01:10:35
Rob
Me too.
01:10:43
killianginnity
A hundred percent. Look,
Legacy in Football: Small Nation Legends vs Major Nation Players
01:10:47
killianginnity
look at George Wea. He's now president of Liberia. liberia Look at Aubameyang.
01:10:50
Glennon
Too much paperwork, mate. I just want to make the money.
01:10:54
killianginnity
Aubameyang could have played for France and actually would have gotten the squad but he wouldn't have gotten in the squad for that long where he's had a very long and now legendary career for the Gabon like I don't know why he does all these bag chasers because in the long run you're gonna actually earn less like is two caps for England worth 20 or 30 years of a career like look at ah like Irish pundits
01:11:16
Glennon
I think it was more for your career. I think like, you know, i think I think, yeah, I think if you got like six caps for England, your weekly wages are going to go up a fair bit while if you may be a cult icon in, you know, St.
01:11:19
Rob
Yeah, I'm gonna grade it. raidish
01:11:31
Glennon
Lucia, but you know, what's that do for you week to week?
01:11:33
Rob
Yeah.
01:11:34
Nate
Yeah.
01:11:36
Rob
Yeah, give me the glory.
01:11:36
Nate
i
01:11:37
Rob
I like this. I would much rather find 30 cups for a France than, you know,
01:11:39
killianginnity
Nate.
01:11:39
Nate
I think.
01:11:42
Glennon
Yeah, then 130 for St. Lucia.
01:11:45
Rob
An equivalent, yeah, or a smaller nation.
01:11:48
Nate
See that's, I sort of look at it like, if I'm going to international duty, you know, I have to take more than two flights. Like, that's how I'm going.
01:11:55
Rob
Yeah, well, yeah, that's it as well.
01:11:56
Nate
Like, you know.
01:11:57
killianginnity
No, but like the the other part of it as well is like, imagine you're not a great player and you get the opportunity to go and play for Trinidad and Tobago, let's say. Imagine getting to be paid not well, but reasonably to go over and chill on a beach.
01:12:14
Glennon
Trinidad sounds like a a two-flight, or my man. ah
01:12:17
Rob
Yeah.
01:12:18
killianginnity
It is, it is but like, no, but I can imagine, imagine like, oh, I have to go on international duty to a Caribbean paradise.
01:12:18
Nate
Yeah, I don't think you're getting me into that life.
01:12:25
killianginnity
Oh, you poor thing.
01:12:26
Glennon
you I'd rather getting 70 grand a week riding the bench for England.
01:12:29
Rob
It does make a difference, like even Sammy Smaller, because they asked him about when did he start him to play for Ireland and he's like, when my agent kind of alerted me that I could play for Ireland, like dig those quotes out and then
01:12:33
killianginnity
and...
01:12:45
Rob
Sammy Smallies has a great season and it's kind of part of the package of the International Fair.
01:12:49
Glennon
yeah
01:12:49
Rob
Same with Grealish, like ah part of Grealish I'm sure felt like second or third generation Irish book. But take away the fact that he's born in and he's English and he grew up there.
01:12:57
Glennon
Yeah.
01:12:59
Rob
It's just that cachet of being an England midfielder. It does make a deal, like Gucci don't sign up many Irish internationals. in another way like
01:13:07
Nate
yeah
01:13:07
Rob
like for right
01:13:07
Glennon
That's a very good point.
01:13:09
Rob
Whereas Jack readers are to face guchi and and like are he does a and campaigns with them. That depends on the player's priorities as well. like If you want that lifestyle and the money, planning for the bigger nation will help you. Whereas, and yeah, for the players it won't. But I do think that's it.
01:13:24
Glennon
Jokes aside though, he he doesn't go for 100 million though.
01:13:25
killianginnity
Just saying, though.
01:13:27
Glennon
He doesn't go for 100 million, he doesn't he doesn't possibly end up by that city team if he's Irish.
01:13:27
Nate
Yeah.
01:13:29
Rob
No.
01:13:31
Nate
Killian.
01:13:32
Rob
No.
01:13:32
killianginnity
Just saying, the face of Versace is Kalina Murphy.
01:13:34
Nate
Yeah.
01:13:35
Rob
the Yeah, well, that's true, but it's, um, it's just, but as well as like, it's a prestige thing as well to say, I'm, I'm paying for this, like 10 caps for, imagine you played 10 times for this current France team. You must be seriously good footballer.
01:13:47
Glennon
Absolute baller, yeah.
01:13:49
Rob
Whereas like, like the certain players pay for it a hundred times or whatever, and they're not exactly.
01:13:55
Glennon
Or your Danny Gabadon's, like, yeah, I'm an international player, but like, mate, you play for Gibraltar, like.
01:13:57
Rob
Yeah. yeah
01:14:01
Rob
yeah so it depends on the player but it was me give me the choice of yeah i think i'd rather the bigger nation yeah yeah
01:14:06
Glennon
Yeah, I'll ride that bench any day. ah i'll I'll settle for a Gucci contract.
01:14:13
killianginnity
Why are you saying that?
01:14:14
Nate
Yeah, I'll ask you this question. Do you think you're getting a Gucci contract in Trinidad and Jamaica?
01:14:22
killianginnity
All I'm saying is, did did you ever hear of Phil Young Husband?
01:14:26
Nate
No.
01:14:27
killianginnity
Exactly. Phil Young Husband was a youth player and in Chelsea and he became the face of
01:14:32
Glennon
Did he get married young, did he?
01:14:34
killianginnity
her
01:14:34
Nate
but
01:14:35
killianginnity
ah He became the face of Armani in the Philippines, is a superstar over there. So much of a superstar that his younger brother, who was never a good footballer, ended up with over a hundred caps for the national team just because he was associated with them.
01:14:50
Glennon
Well, that's ah that's ah I think a social video that we need to go to more depth on.
01:14:54
Rob
Yeah.
01:14:54
killianginnity
like he he is the Filipino David Beckham and I think this is where people are getting under underestimating the power of like choosing a smaller country because like I think he's kind of think oh yeah he likes the St Lucia five thousand people on an island there's tens and tens of, I think it's 120 million people in the Philippines or something stupid like that.
01:15:18
Nate
You've heard it.
01:15:18
killianginnity
So like, it'd be a lot of money to be gone there. Like, if I was a luco nine for Sunderland, he's eligible to play for Singapore. Singapore pays their politicians a million dollars a year. If that's what they can pay a politician, well, then what can they pay for an endorsement?
01:15:36
Nate
You've heard it here first, guys. The kid ain't gonna need the new face of Gucci and turn it out in Germany.
01:15:41
Rob
Yeah.
01:15:42
Nate
the
Golden Glove Predictions
01:15:44
Glennon
before Before we go, Jen's quickfire answer, who who we saying for Golden Globe?
01:15:45
killianginnity
and
01:15:51
Rob
Pickford, why not?
01:15:52
Nate
the ice
01:15:53
killianginnity
Pickford's actually not a bad bet in fairness. um I think Rui Patricio though, for Portugal.
01:15:59
Nate
It's producing I'm gonna play. Or Diogo Costa.
01:16:02
killianginnity
I think so.
01:16:05
Nate
I'd go with one of them anyway. Whoever plays report you.
01:16:08
killianginnity
Yeah, I'd be kind of the same, but I think Patricio could end up being the one that plays.
01:16:14
Glennon
Pickford is is, I was not expecting, but I'm i'm thinking, I'm thinking Germany, but Cillian's
01:16:17
Rob
Yeah.
01:16:19
Rob
I'm saying Pickford have a bit of a ropey defence, not as close as it was, but I still think they won't let many goals in. Pickford actually has a good season, I know we get to that mistake, but he's feeling a lot better.
01:16:30
Glennon
been championing Pickford for for a long, oh well.
01:16:33
killianginnity
Pickford, the man only gets out of bed in the morning when there's a point to be proven. and um like Get the rave on. like as as As I said, it's going to happen. There's going to be a an article in The Sun calling for the public execution of the England players after the second game. And from then on, Pickford is going to turn into
01:16:52
Glennon
Siege mentality, us against the world.
01:16:54
killianginnity
Oh, he's going to turn into Peter Schmeichel on steroids. He's going to be making Gordon Banks versus Pele diving saves every game, even though he's.
01:16:58
Rob
Okay.
01:17:01
Glennon
With his crocodile hands.
01:17:03
killianginnity
Yeah, ah he's just going to turn, turn into like an amazing amazing player as soon as somebody starts bitching against them. So.
01:17:08
Nate
I'm clipping that when he ships three bars of France.
01:17:15
killianginnity
And on that bombshell, we shall leave it gentlemen. I think this could be our longest ever episode.
01:17:21
Glennon
I think so.
01:17:21
killianginnity
So well done. We've made it true. We've done our previews and predictions of euros 2024. I will see you next week after the first match.
01:17:29
Glennon
but Bye-bye.