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093 - Managing u7/u9 Goalies and Open Borders
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Nathan flies solo on this episode talking about how to manage a young wannabe goalie who can't play full time yet in u7/u9. We also discuss the best approach to managing open border situations and what to avoid doing to maximize development.
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to the DIY goalie podcast where hosts and goalie coaches Nathan Park and Connor Monday share their insights on how to become a better goalie.
00:00:18
Speaker
Goalies, how are you doing today? Welcome back to another episode of the DIY goalie podcast presented by True North Goaltending. It is just me, Nathan, today in the driver's seat. um we've ah We've kind of been going through the last couple weeks of a super busy stretch here.
00:00:42
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know Connor's also working today at his regular job since, you know, unfortunately we're not at the point yet that this is paying the bills full time, but that's okay.
Minor Hockey Systems and Goaltending Management
00:00:51
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um So we are going to be talking about a couple things that don't think we've really touched on um previously in other episodes um relating to And kind of some of the systemic things going on in terms of minor hockey and how that relates to goaltending and just kind of how we can manage some of that stuff. But just kind of before we get right into
Summer Goalie Camps Announcement
00:01:18
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that. um
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Speaker
We do have dates available for our camps um for the summer. So we are going to be running three different camps this summer.
00:01:31
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One is going to be a two-day weekend camp that is going to be designed strictly for U9 and U11 beginner goalies. So goalies who haven't had a whole lot of time yet in the net.
00:01:44
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um And that'll kind of be a good intro to the position. A lot of fun over the weekend. We are going to also be including a presentation for goalie parents as a lot of them are kind of dealing with this for the first time and aren't really sure how to go about being a goalie parent and what the best things are. for their goalies and kind of how to do that. So um that is going to be August 8th and 9th.
00:02:13
Speaker
um We are also going to be running air our full week goalie camp the right after that. So the week of August 10th to 14th. And that'll be our one for hockey goalies related to um any age or skill level kind of above that beginner level that we're tackling in the weekend.
00:02:34
Speaker
And then we're going to be doing a three-day camp over a Friday, Saturday, Sunday for Ringette goalies this year too, August 21st to 23rd. So we do have all our dates. All of those will be in Beaumont, just kind of southeast of Edmonton.
00:02:52
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um So those should be up for booking within the next week or so. They might even, if I can get my stuff together by the time this episode airs, hopefully um it'll be available for booking, if not shortly thereafter. so if you guys do want to come um travel to the Edmonton area, or if you guys are already in the Edmonton area and want a good experience with the Gully Camp, come check us out. um
00:03:24
Speaker
The last three years, our full week-long camps have sold out. um So you don't want to wait too, too long on that. um And that'll all be available at truenorthgoaltending.com to book. We will put the link in the show notes as well for our goalie camps. um And yeah, we hope to see a few you guys out this summer with us. And we always look forward to the camps. It's a busy, busy time, but they always end up being a lot of fun. And we have a good time. We see a lot of progression with the goalies, which is good to see. So we will put that in the show notes and that will all be available for booking shortly.
Challenges for Young Goalies and Open Borders in Minor Hockey
00:04:09
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um So getting into the um actual, I guess, content for the episode this week. So there is two things that I kind of wanted to address today.
00:04:22
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um The first one is kind of relating to our young, young goalies. So kind of the ones that fall into that U7 kind of bracket, I guess. Then the other one is kind of related to what we want to do when it comes to all of the...
00:04:43
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I guess open borders stuff going on whether it's like minor hockey if you're in the Ontario area or if it's more of the unsanctioned side of things that is basically a free-for-all um kind of wanted to go through a few things there so when it comes to our younger goalies um I have seen a handful of things in some of the goalie parent groups lately um One was related to, I guess, kind of that U7, U9 group, um talking about you know kids who want to play goalie and who keep asking to play goalie, but because of the way, at least in Canada, I don't know about other places, but at least in Canada, the U7 and the U9 levels, they don't really have full-time goalies yet.
00:05:38
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u9 kind of gets there a little bit usually everybody has to take a turn being goalie at least once and then from there um i don't know if the rules are still like this but i know it used to be that um you could only have one or you could only play up to 50 of the time for one kid being a goalie um I don't know if that's still ah a thing or not, but I'm pretty sure it is. And I'm pretty sure it's still where every kid has to have at least one go with the pads in terms of practice and games.
Supporting Young Goalies: Strategies and Training
00:06:17
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So what this can lead to is it can lead to a couple kids. Normally there's one to three kids per team that are really gun ho to be goalies and they want to be the goalie full time.
00:06:33
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um But because of the way that U9 is structured, they don't necessarily get the chance to full time. And then even more so in U7. So U7, there's really no goalies at all whatsoever anyways. um So we're slightly kind of dealing with that with our oldest, who is six. So he's still playing U7.
00:06:57
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um He's constantly bugging us about being a goalie. um Mostly, I think, just because he's around it so much. um With me coaching goalies, with me having been a goalie, I think that's kind of why he's looking forward to it.
00:07:13
Speaker
um or wanting to go that route, but he is U7 and so he only the only chance he gets to be goalie is at his games, um which they do like three minute shifts and then the buzzer goes and everybody changes and so one kid each shift is in the net, um but they're not wearing any goalie equipment or anything like that. so What we've kind of done to help him see if he wants to be a goalie, if he likes being the goalie, and if he wants to keep going with it, um we have signed him up for ah spring team this year.
00:07:56
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And the spring team will allow him to be, well, him and one other kid, they will both be the goalies on this team. So he will... close to be full-time, I guess, as a goalie.
00:08:10
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The other thing that we kind of did with him over the Christmas break, um we signed him up for a little tournament that was like a one-day tournament um that one of the local power skating providers put on. And so they had one day for U9 and one day for U7, and they just put together four teams and they got to play each other.
00:08:32
Speaker
in a little tournament for the whole day so we signed him up to be a goalie for that too to kind of get a feel for it so that was his first real experience um you know playing in a game as as a goalie with pads and stuff on um so if you have a kid who is really wanting to be goalie but is still at that u7 or that u9 level where it's not quite full time yet You can look for some of the other options. Normally we are a little bit anti-spring hockey. um We believe fully that you know the multi-sport athletes um just make better athletes in general, which
00:09:16
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in turn translates to being better goalies. But some it's also good from like a burnout standpoint to get a bit of a break from the net and to have something else to look forward to and to kind of you know, build the the want of the game a bit over the off season so that you're ready to go come the new season again. um but in this situation if you have a ah goalie um or a want a wannabe goalie that doesn't have the um i guess situation or resources or whatever you want to call it to be able to play goalie full-time that is for sure an option because a lot of the spring teams do have full-time goalies uh just because it is the unsanctioned side they're usually playing full ice they're usually kind of just
00:10:03
Speaker
right into, you know, it being like real hockey as early as they can. um So if you have the the financial means to hop on a spring team, that's an option for your goalie um or for your kid to be able to try goalie, see how they like playing full games as a goalie, um all of that stuff. So that's an option. um The other thing you can do too is you can try goalie sessions like We're lucky because we have the facility, so I am able to take our oldest every now and then to the facility, give them 20 minutes here, half an hour there is a little bit of ah a kind of session on our synthetic ice. um
00:10:47
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A lot of people don't have that luxury, but you could still go out to another provider um and try and get in to some group sessions or even some private sessions get some goalie training that's a good way to see if they really want to do it or not um the other thing you can do too is take them to the outdoor rink or whatever access you have you can even do like ah a stick and puck like a kid's stick and puck or shinny or something like that or even a public skate with everything but the stick they don't like the sticks but most places I think allow you to bring your goalie gear out and to kind of practice moving around in your gear a little bit as long as you're not bugging anybody else or in the way so that's options too if your kid wants to be a goalie but isn't at the level yet
00:11:40
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um So kind of on a little bit of a different avenue of the same topic. So I was talking or I guess commenting back and forth with somebody about this.
00:11:54
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They were talking about how. You know, their goalie seems discouraged. They don't want to go out as a player. All they want to do is be goalie. But because of the U7 or the U9 level, they aren't able to do that all the time yet.
00:12:14
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And um so they kind of had reached out to the goalie parents group and was asking like if there was anything they could do to try and help their goalie or I guess their kid kind of go out as a player and be okay with it and kind of understand that there's that stop gap until they can be a full-time goalie.
00:12:35
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um And i had kind of mentioned that... they need like goalies need to be okay with playing player for a little bit just because of the skill set that it develops it develops better stick handling skills develops um a different set of skating skills which can make them better skaters um all of this stuff and And I can kind of attest to you know, what this goalie parent is dealing with with their goalie, because when I played, I wanted to get into the net as quick as I could because I wasn't very good with player stuff.
00:13:17
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um I was not a good skater. I was not good at shooting or stick handling or anything like that. And so as soon as I could, I went to the net, but I did have to play some of that time as a player before I was able to go full time in the net. And I do kind of wish that I had played player for a little bit longer in conjunction with me being a goalie, just so I did have some of those better kind of a away from the net skills, um, which I think would have translated to me being a better goalie. Um,
00:13:52
Speaker
A lot of my athleticism when I played, I think firmly comes from the cross training I did. Like I played soccer, I played inline hockey, I played ball hockey. Ball hockey I played as a player. um it wasn't very good, but it was a bit of an escape from the net. And I kind of wish I had more of that um just to kind of build that skill set. So if you are dealing with a kid who is dead set on being goalie and does not want to go out there as a player, but they're not in a situation where they can go out there as a goalie full time yet.
00:14:29
Speaker
try and kind of help them understand from that perspective that it's only temporary. They will eventually be able to get full-time goalie, but right now they can't, but it's a great time to be able to work on some of these skills that will help them to be a better goalie down the road as well.
00:14:46
Speaker
Um, and that might kind of help give them the motivation to get out onto the ice as a player. Um, the other thing too is, you know, it's kind of almost, uh,
00:15:00
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the, I don't know, the preview, I guess, for what it's like being in the system as a goalie. So as pretty much every goalie parent that, you know, has been around for a couple of years as a goalie parent knows, Pretty much every goalie out there knows, every goalie coach out there knows.
00:15:18
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The system is not
Need for Organizational Support and Structural Changes
00:15:20
Speaker
friendly to goalies. The system is not designed to support goalies very well. And this is kind of a good introduction to that, I guess, that it's like, yeah there isn't a whole lot of encouragement or you know a whole lot of push for kids to be goalies early on part of that is you know like we see there's no full-time goalies for the kids that want to be full-time goalies at that age and i totally get we want every kid to get their chance in net to see if they like it or not but a lot of
00:15:59
Speaker
I find 95 99% of the goalies out there, you just kind of knew that they were the ones that were going to be goalies.
00:16:09
Speaker
And you can tell the players that have absolutely no desire. They're just... get through my one turn that I have to get through and then I never want to pick up a set of pads again. So I don't know exactly what the answer is, but I do think the system could probably support those kids a little bit better that do want to actually keep going with the position and keep going as goalies.
00:16:36
Speaker
um I don't know exactly what that looks like, but I do think that we probably could make some changes to make that a little bit more friendly to goalies, especially the young goalies. um Because we see it lots and we're in an area that's pretty well populated and, you know, has a lot of, you know,
00:17:01
Speaker
players sign up for hockey, lot of registrations. um And we still deal with organizations that are short on goalies. um A lot of times those organizations, though, are the ones that don't invest as much as they should into their goalies, especially the young goalies. So we have one of the organizations we work with that can't keep the U9 goalies away like they're they're turning them away because there's so much interest. um When we do our weekly goalie sessions with them, they open up one spot per U9 team for a kid to come out and do a goalie session and they have expanded that. So instead of the six spots for U9, think they're up to eight or nine spots for U9 now just to accommodate the demand.
00:17:54
Speaker
And even then, I think there's still a few other kids that would like to come out as well. um So I think that's a big one that can really help. um is a lot of these organizations i think need to do a better job of offering support for their u9 kind of age group for those kids that do want to be goalies so having un nine specific goalie sessions or the ability for the u9s to kind of come out to the group goalie sessions and have their own dedicated sort of teachings that's what we do with that one the one organization i was talking about Because their needs are a little bit different than say the U11 and the U13 goalies that have a bit more experience, right? Like you're not going through with those goalies.
00:18:43
Speaker
what a proper goalie stance is, what a proper butterfly looks like. You might have to adjust a few things on the fly with them, but for the most part, they kind of have those basics down.
00:18:54
Speaker
um So I think a lot of organizations need to do a better job of offering some of the U9 specific training to their goalies and to the kids who want to be goalies, but they also need to make sure that they make it fun to help encourage the goalies to come out more.
00:19:10
Speaker
um So I think overall all the organizing bodies like the Hockey Canada's, the USA Hockey's of the world need to do a better job, at least here in North America. Again, Europe's a different animal. I don't know much about it. I know from what I've heard their model is generally better than what we have, but I also know that there's things there that need to be improved on and people aren't too happy about sometimes. but In general, I think the organizing bodies or the governing bodies when it comes to hockey need to do a better job of mandating some of this stuff and to be like, hey
00:19:48
Speaker
We need to foster more of a love for the game. We need to encourage these kids that do want to be goalies to actually be goalies. And yes, they should get some experience as a player and work on some of those skills. But we need to kind of have some more, you know, young beginner goalie specific training. and we need to have more encouragement for them to be goalies so a lot of organizations they rent gear which is great um you know a lot of them kind of have the gear that you can pass around at u9 or whatever problem is is a lot of times there's no um information with that like i see so many beginner goalies that have their straps on their pads cinched up as tight as possible because the parents don't understand that there has to be some give to the pad so that they can move a little bit with the goalies they just think oh i gotta tighten it as much as they can so that it stays on their leg and all that stuff right so and think we need to have more information for goalie parents which is why we're doing a presentation at our u9 and u11 goalie camp the beginner one that we're throwing
00:21:03
Speaker
um And the other thing too is there just needs to be more push towards making it fun and making it educational for these kids that do want to make that jump. Because there are so many organizations out there that are short goalies and it's because nobody takes the time to take those kids that actually want to be goalies and foster that and turn it into, you know, a lifetime goalie as opposed to oh, I tried it for one year, but it sucked because I didn't get any training and everybody blamed losses on me. And, you know, I was just a shooter tutor and i don't like this and blah, blah, blah.
00:21:46
Speaker
Right. the The list of reasons are endless that kids turn away from goalie. So i think what we need to do a little bit better job of is, uh,
00:22:02
Speaker
I don't know, I mean, it's tough because
00:22:07
Speaker
like people like us can't change what the governing bodies do. And that's where the biggest change would come from. But I think what we need to do is we need to push the organizations more.
00:22:21
Speaker
um so if you are a goalie parent, you know, trying to get on the board can be a big thing if you have the time to volunteer or talking with your coaching staff, talking with your team managers, talking with your age director. Like if you have a U9 director, you seven director or whatever the case is and saying, hey, we need a little bit more for these goalies. Like you guys are struggling to fill goalie spots. We need to do a little bit more here.
00:22:49
Speaker
But then on the flip side, too, is encourage your younger kids to also be OK playing out. Right. We want to make sure that they're getting a well-rounded skill set. They're good athletes before they're good goalies, because that will translate to them being good goalies. And they should be OK with with kind of that as well.
00:23:11
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um So there's that fine line between what's discouraging and what is just, you know, building skill sets. Right. So. um
00:23:25
Speaker
we need to make sure our goalies are okay with doing both and that's kind of like us with our oldest he's doing both he's going to be uniting next year mostly as a player but i'm sure as soon as he can he'll hop in the net um but we've kind of scratched that itch with like spring and that tournament that we did and stuff like that so there are options for you guys if your goalie just keeps bugging you and they they won't do anything else but play the position As a goalie parent, foster that though, because we need more goalies in the world. And it's, in my opinion, which is probably biased, one of the best positions in sports. um
00:24:06
Speaker
So that's kind of all I have for that topic. The other thing I wanted to touch on is just kind of the open
Impact of Open Team Selection and Super Teams
00:24:12
Speaker
borders thing. So obviously, if you're in the Ontario area, um That's a big prominent thing over the last couple of years is how minor hockey has gone to the open borders. So you don't have to go to your zone. You can kind of basically go anywhere you want to go. There was talks of doing that here in Alberta with Hockey Alberta, but they haven't yet anyways. I don't know if they will or not.
00:24:38
Speaker
Um, but what we do see a lot over here in Alberta is because we have a lot on the unsanctioned side. So leagues that aren't part of hockey Canada or anything like that, they have a ton of players going everywhere. So I know like,
00:24:56
Speaker
I have dealt with some of these teams where you know families are driving five hours and spending nights in hotels over the weekends to play for a team in the Edmonton area um on the unsanctioned side of things and because they think it's the best option for their kids.
00:25:20
Speaker
I'm not going to get into that. I mean, I'm not here to parent other people's kids and tell them what's right or wrong. The one thing I will say, though, um when it comes to the open borders, whether it's sanctioned or unsanctioned, there's a few things that you really have to be careful of, especially as a goalie or a goalie parent. um
00:25:45
Speaker
make sure you're going with the team that you're going with for the right reasons. The problem is, is we end up a lot of times with, kind of super teams, I guess. So where everybody wants to go and they can basically have their run of the mill picks of whoever they, you know, choose, they can take the 20 best players basically in the whole region and make a super team that waxes every other team when they play them. um And that's kind of what we end up seeing with a lot of this stuff.
00:26:18
Speaker
So the problem is on a, well, not just a goalie side, this can be on the player side too, but, um, It's a lot of times not actually as good for your development to be on these types of teams, especially as a goalie. Because if you're spending your whole time as a goalie, getting three shots in a game, and most of the time you're getting a shutout, or maybe every now and then you let in one goal on five shots or whatever the case is.
00:26:51
Speaker
That is not going to realistically translate for down the road if you do want to get to the higher levels. Like how often do you guys see a junior or a college or a professional game that ends up 12-0 and the shots are seventy two to three right? Like it's not very often. It does happen. There are some bad junior teams out there. There are some bad pro teams out there. But for the most part,
00:27:18
Speaker
If you want to get to high, high levels playing, getting three shots a game is not going to be good for your your development. Now on the flip side of that, getting blown out 14-0 every game isn't either. i do think that that's better than the three shots a game for your development, but at the same time,
00:27:42
Speaker
It's tough, like it's demoralizing mentally. It's not good to be going through that all the time. like It also can create bad habits if your team is that bad and you're trying to overcompensate for everything and do everything yourself as well. So it it's also not good. So either end of the spectrum is not good.
00:28:03
Speaker
Um, but the other thing you have to think of too, like when you're trying to pick a team, if you do have open borders or if you are unsanctioned or whatever, the biggest thing I think you need to look for is a what do they have to offer for development so what like how often are you getting goalie sessions and who is providing the goalie sessions do you like them are they reputable are they good um and then the other thing is too is playing time like are you going to a team that has recruited who they believe is the top goalie of the age group in the area And they plan to ride him or her 95% of the time.
00:28:51
Speaker
Right. And that leaves you to have one start maybe every, you know, 10, 20 games, whatever. Maybe you only get in five games the whole time. Is that better for your development or is it better to find a team that's more 50 50 or maybe you even get 60 percent of the starts like a 60 40 or something like that? Right. That's another thing you got to think of, too, because a lot of parents, they chase these you know high end super programs that they're like,
00:29:24
Speaker
You know, it it's it's like a it's like a status thing. They can say, hey, my kid plays on this team and they're 31-0 this year. And wow, my kid must be amazing. And then the other parents are like, wow, that does sound amazing.
00:29:40
Speaker
But then when push comes to shove and you get to the high levels and they start facing some adversity, they don't know how to deal with it because they haven't faced any adversity whatsoever up until that point.
00:29:54
Speaker
um So the status doesn't really matter. the like The vicariously living through your kid as a parent doesn't really matter. like The big thing that matters is development.
00:30:08
Speaker
And so development happens from playing time. You need playing time in games to be able to get good at playing games. And then practice development. What are you getting on the ice?
00:30:21
Speaker
And how often are you getting that? How good is the practice structure? Like, are you walking into a team that does nothing but flow drills or five on O drills the whole time? Or are you going on a team where the coach likes to do, you know, um,
00:30:38
Speaker
battle drills and do small area games and do structured, you know, odd man rushes and systems. And do they involve their goalies in their practice with, you know, breakouts and stuff like that? Right. So these are the kind of things you got to think of when you pick a team, like just picking based off results and how good they're going to be sometimes can actually be the worst thing for you.
00:31:04
Speaker
Then the other thing too, and we've kind of talked about this before, but you want to find something that's a good fit too, right? Because um I know Connor's not here, and so i I'm shocked that I'm going to be mentioning this, but I'm going to talk about the Stu Skinner trade with Trish Sinjari, where sometimes it's all a matter of fit, right? So in terms of Stu Skinner's side of things, like...
00:31:30
Speaker
He needed to get out of Edmonton. He needed to get a fresh start, a position or a team, I guess, a situation where there was a lot less pressure because the fans in Edmonton, the media in Edmonton, they can all be a little bit ruthless, let's be honest. um And so for him, that kind of fresh start, I think is good. And then same thing with Jari. Jari kind of needed a fresh start too out of Pittsburgh. And to me, even though I don't think Jari is a better goalie overall than Skinner, I do think he's a better fit for the Oilers playing style.
00:32:06
Speaker
Like, Stu is one that he's very good positionally, but he doesn't move well laterally. And kind of the stuff that Edmonton gives up is a lot more, you know, lateral chances. um You know, high slot shots, that sort of stuff. And it seemed that Stu just got himself behind the play a lot. That it seems like Jari and Ingram, too, that he's been playing well. But it seems that those guys...
00:32:34
Speaker
kind of seem to be better suited for the chances the Oilers give up. And so that's another thing to consider when you're thinking about picking a team as well. If you're in a situation that you kind of get to pick, um thinking about their playing style, your goalies playing style, what's going to set them up for success. And this works for junior too. This works for colleges and whatever. If you're fortunate enough to have a couple of junior teams reaching out to you or a couple of college teams reaching out to you, you got to think of more than just how good they are. You got to think of how much does this situation present me with the opportunity for success? Do I get to develop really good over the season? Do I get to look good because I'm in a situation that fits my skill set?
00:33:22
Speaker
Do I like the coach? You know, these are kind of things that you got to think of um when we're picking them. Because I find... Too many parents and too many players just kind of try and get on the very best team possible. And sometimes that's not the best way to go.
00:33:40
Speaker
um i personally think The best situation, if we're not just talking like fit, like say there's three teams that are similar fit for you. I think the best route to go is to find a team that can contend for the top of the league, whatever league you're in But you are part of team.
00:34:07
Speaker
um contention, right? Like you are part of the bigger puzzle, like you are a piece in that puzzle to be able to make a potential, you know, championship run, quote unquote, right? I mean, I know sometimes, you know, we're talking U11 or you thirteen that championships, you know, you could argue, are we really
Criticism of Commercialization and Focus on Development
00:34:27
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worried about that? But um even still, like,
00:34:31
Speaker
If you're kind of on like, say, a top five team that has to battle to earn some wins against the other top five teams, but gives you an opportunity to be part of the solution and to actually make an impact in those games so that you're playing some close games, but you're also near the top kind of fighting for a top spot.
00:34:53
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That to me is the ideal situation, right? So one, you can contribute to but you're still kind of in the thick of things. um Even being like in the middle of the pack is OK, too. Like you like i said earlier, we just want to kind of avoid those extremes on either end of the spectrum. um So we don't want to be on the 30-0, team. We don't want to be on the 0-31 team, especially if, you know, the discrepancy in goals is just ridiculous. So those are things to consider. But I just wanted to talk about some of the things to think of aside from just how good the team is, because there are a lot of people out there now that are trying to choose where to go, because that's kind of what hockey's
00:35:41
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gotten to nowadays um is we've started to run it more like a business as opposed to ah sport, which is unfortunate and it has had a lot of unfortunate um you know consequences because of that. But we need to still, i think, have an approach as best we can as to what is the best way to get development. How can me or how can my kid, whatever the situation is, how can we get as good as we can um given our situation? And I think that's kind of what gets lost a lot is
00:36:22
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We're going to have kids that their ceiling might only be, you know, tier two U18 and that's perfectly fine. If they're having fun, if they're continuing to get better, if they're kind of, you know, fueling their competitive fire a little bit.
00:36:40
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then that's great. That's really all that matters. So I think we need to have less of a results oriented approach and we need to have more of a development oriented approach. And I think if you go about it that way, you should have no problems, I guess. I shouldn't say no problems, but you you should end up more often than not in a decent situation um as opposed to kind of the ones that are just constantly chasing results and bouncing around all the time.
00:37:12
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um So, yeah, I do think... the professionalism or the professionalization, I should say, of young minor hockey, we need to take a couple steps back on that. And that kind of starts with the parents because, you know, the parents, I guess, are the customers. So these programs, especially the unsanctioned ones that are more pay to play, so to speak, if that's the way you want to word it,
00:37:42
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they won't exist if people don't give them the money. And so if you guys, like it starts with the parents, the parents that are constantly searching for the next best thing, bouncing around, spending thousands and thousands of dollars are the reason why that these leagues and teams and all this stuff are popping up everywhere because they can and they can make money off of it and all that. And Which can be a good thing on one hand, right? Like, I mean, you can get a lot better development from programs that are done right. But we also see a lot of issues come from that. A lot of scams, a lot of, you know, missed promises or broken promises, a lot of.
00:38:29
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heartbroken kids, which is unfortunate to see. So I think if you guys just in general go into it with the approach of more development minded as opposed to results minded, um I think that's kind of the best way to approach these open border type situations um and just figure out what works best for your situation. If you're if you or your kid are good enough,
00:38:57
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they most likely will get some sort of look um and they will make the levels they need to make or that they should make most of the time so make the decisions to put them in the best spot to succeed and the best spot to develop as opposed to the best spot to ride the pine for 12 nothing wins all the time or whatever the case is so So that's kind of what I wanted to talk about today. um i hope that sort of stuff made sense. um I tried to kind of articulate it the best I could. um But so overall, I just think, you know, having your guys' own best interests at heart from the development side of things will get you guys into the best situations most of the time.
00:39:53
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um So that's kind of all we have today. I appreciate you guys tuning in and listening from all over the world. It's cool to see where our listenership is out of. um You guys can head to truenorthgoaltending.com and that's where you can book sessions with us if you are in the Edmonton area or if you want to book any virtual sessions.
00:40:13
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00:40:46
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The other thing too, if you guys, like I said, want to check out our camps, I will put the link for the camps in the show notes and you guys can see if that works for you guys. um As always, you can reach out to goalies at truenorthgoaltending.com. If you guys have any questions about anything, if you want a question on the podcast, if you just want, you know, question about the position or about our services or anything like that please reach out um the best thing for us if you like the show share it with another goalie share it on your Facebook page or in your goalie parents group or whatever it is leave us a like a subscribe a review on whatever platform you are listening slash watching on if it's the YouTube side of things That sort of stuff really helps us grow the show and shows that you guys are out there and enjoying what we're doing. So if you could do that, we'd be very grateful for that and much appreciative. You can follow us on social media, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, all at True North Goaltending. Instagram, we are Y-E-G Goalie Coach. um And yeah, I think that's pretty much all we got.
00:41:58
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So thank you guys for tuning in. Hope you guys have a good rest of your week. And as always, goalies, make some saves. Take care.