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This week Nathan and Connor do a deep dive on dead angles and the overlap. We discuss what it means, why it's useful, when to use it, and when not to.
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Introduction and Reintroduction of DIY Goalie Podcast
00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to the DIY Goalie Podcast where hosts and goalie coaches Nathan Park and Connor Munday share their insights on how to become a better goalie.
00:00:18
Speaker
Goalies, how are we doing? Welcome back to the DIY Goalie Podcast presented by True North Goaltending. with your two hosts, two of us today. it seems to be rare these days, but myself, Nathan Park, I am across from Connor Monday, my co-host. And yeah, we haven't really been on the same episodes together a lot lately, but you know, it is what
Weekend Catch-up: Weather and Bachelor's Weekend
00:00:48
Speaker
it is. We took advantage of the long weekend this weekend and are meeting up on the Monday. So
00:00:53
Speaker
um But hopefully you guys had a good long weekend. i don't actually know if it's a long weekend in the States, but it is for sure in Canada, May long. And of course we dipped below zero degrees again. so you know, that's pretty classic, at least for the Edmonton area, the Northern Alberta area. But yeah.
00:01:13
Speaker
you know At least we didn't get snow, so that's that's a good... Can't say that about some other places in the country. so you know I guess we'll count our blessings, but...
00:01:25
Speaker
Connor's running a bachelor life this weekend. How's that been going? it's ah It's been pretty quiet, honestly. Wife and kid went out camping.
00:01:35
Speaker
um they're actually They're actually coming home today as of recording this. um I don't know. it's it's it's I get to kind of relive my teenage years a little bit of staying up till one in the morning playing video games and have the bed to myself it's quite nice but i am excited for uh for uh wife and kid to uh to be uh coming home i miss them um but yeah no it was it was nice for a little bit nathan put me to work last night um but you know all in all it's uh it's it's been it's been pretty nice over here yeah that's uh it's one of those things that like
00:02:16
Speaker
after the dad life kicks in and you get that little bit of time it's like what do i even do with myself but uh you know obviously been been so conditioned just sorry just been so conditioned with work and family work family work family mixing hockey in there as well but then you're like where where'd my family go? And now what do I do? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:02:39
Speaker
All right.
Episode Topics Overview
00:02:40
Speaker
So what we have on the docket today, Connor is going to go through a drill of the month and then we're going to kind of touch on a topic that I don't think gets enough love in the goalie world. and Yeah, we're gonna go over some dead angle stuff. We'll kind of explain what that is when we get to it. And we'll also be talking a lots about the overlap. And again, we'll kind of get into what that is when we get to it. But it is something that I think is not worked on enough, is not talked about or explained enough, especially for how much goalies go in and out of their post and how much pucks get into the dead angles during a game. we definitely don't put enough emphasis and work into it um most of the time. I know we make a point of doing a lot of work with it at True North. We do a lot of kind of that's our post progression as we start with kind of some standing post play and some overlap stuff. And then we kind of work more into the ah RVH stuff.
00:03:41
Speaker
um But I think in general, the goalie community doesn't put enough stock into it. So that's kind of what we're going to talk about today. um and It's kind of related, the drill of the month we're doing. Not really, but a little bit. It kind of touches on some post-play stuff and some recovery stuff, but it is a little bit more geared towards kind of the RVH and being on the knees, but still a good drill nonetheless. So do you want to take it away, Connor?
00:04:11
Speaker
I'll take it away.
In Tight Overslide Recovery Drill Explained
00:04:12
Speaker
um Okay, so the drill of the month today is called the In Tight Overslide Recovery. So how this goes, and if you're watching over on the YouTube side of things, we do have the we will have the diagram up for your viewing pleasure. um How this goes is that there are two coaches on either side of the net ah below the goal line, about 10 feet outside of the net on each side.
00:04:38
Speaker
The goalie can start at any point in the crease, can't even switch it up, starting every few reps if desired. The goalie is going to slide past their post, so just that over slide past their backdoor post as if they had made a save on a pass across or missed their spot on a push.
00:04:56
Speaker
The goaltender will then have to catch themselves and then quickly return back to their inside post on their RVH. Coach one from the side that the goaltender slides to will then make a pass behind the net to coach two. And the goalie must move post to post on their knees as coach two will attack above the goal line, but just more so kind of in tight for quick stuff or an in tight play. Any rebounds that pop out will be played.
00:05:27
Speaker
Key points on this one are quick controlled recovery back to the post after the over slide. That's going to be a huge one. We want to make sure that we still stay in in control of our movements. We're not just getting caught in panic mode situation.
00:05:41
Speaker
um Solid contact points into the RVH. um Obviously toe laces. you know um one We want to make sure we had our spots nice nice and flush along the post.
00:05:52
Speaker
um Leading with our head, looking around the elbow on the post-to-post movement, looking first, then pushing. So make sure we get that nice, good rotation, looking around, forcing our chin kind of around our elbow. Squaring up if needed when Coach 2 gets above the goal line and obviously battle and compete on rebounds.
00:06:12
Speaker
This is a nice one because we do see this time to time, you know, when ah um especially in the NHL when, you know, goaltenders will they'll make their save. They kind of get caught out of position um and then it has to be that quick recovery back to their back to their post. The inside edge work on this one is highly important um and much like the overlap and RVH situations. They don't necessarily get talked about a whole lot. um Just really.
00:06:39
Speaker
as you know As we say before, right goalies have to be the best skaters, both you know in the in the movements that we do and the kind of edge work that we do work with. um So this is this this is a real good one, and it simulates you know a good play um as if the attack was in our own zone.
00:06:56
Speaker
But um yeah,
Training for Non-Ideal Situations
00:06:57
Speaker
there we go. That is your Drill of the Month for May, the in-tight over-slide recovery. Yeah, and one thing I wanted to touch on, too, on this is... um When it comes to kind of thinking about or designing or putting together like a plan when it comes to goalie development and practice and stuff like that.
00:07:19
Speaker
One of the things that you guys can do um that would be very beneficial is not just work on, you know, specific situations. um from like regular plays that happen, but also working on situations where we kind of maybe make a mistake or get into a situation that comes from us, you know, oversliding or overcorrecting or whatever the case is, like kind of throwing some of that into when we um
00:07:51
Speaker
when we do our goalie development, like just some recovery stuff from non-ideal situations. Because obviously as much as we train for, you know, perfect scenarios and as much as we want to be perfect when it comes to how we, you know, execute and and when we get into our games and stuff like that.
00:08:12
Speaker
it's not going to happen, right? We are going to miss our spots. We are going to make bad reads. We're going to overslide. Whatever the case is, it's going to happen.
00:08:23
Speaker
But what separates the really good goalies from just the okay goalies is the ability to recover from that and also to not kind of spiral, right? Because If you make one mistake and then you start to scramble and then you compound those mistakes on top of each other, that's usually when the real breakdowns happen and the goals go in.
00:08:44
Speaker
um So kind of incorporating some of that into your training, I think iss a good thing to do and and really will benefit you know your overall development. So um think about those. This is a good drill for that, especially since we do see a lot of goalies that maybe end up in front of their posts that just don't know what to do don't know how to get back to their net properly and a lot of times you see the big dive across when somebody goes around the net and the goalie's outside on the other side right so um i mean at the end of the day if that's what you absolutely need to do that's what you need to do but we'd like to try and train ourselves to be a little bit more in control so good drill i think i really like this one um yeah
00:09:32
Speaker
It's got a good compete aspect to it as well.
Dead Angles and Overlap in Goalie Coaching
00:09:35
Speaker
And I think just the other thing that maybe doesn't get thought about a whole lot is just that recovery part of it, right? Because and imagine nine times out of ten, you know, if if if you don't hit your spots or you overslide somewhere, the first instinct, right, is panic.
00:09:52
Speaker
return to their trying to get back to their post on their feet or they're just trying to get back to their post however they can there's no real thought process or techno or technological um ideology behind it right it's just oh i missed my spot i gotta get back to my post and so they think that oh if i i mean i'm i'm a huge advocate of recovering to our feet in the way and however however you want to do it But sometimes, you know, in this instance, if you have good inside edge work to get full blade on the ice and a good push and a nice little spin back to your post to get to that RV situation, and that's, again, that that that's that's just the one part of it is that that we don't focus on enough, and I'm guilty of it as well, is that we don't necessarily think about the...
00:10:41
Speaker
um Oh, ah what's the word I want to use? um the I can't think of it, but you guys know what I'm trying to say. The the the the the the the desperation, I guess, is the the the word i I'll use. the The desperation part of it. Urgency, thank you. um You let me struggle for that long.
00:11:12
Speaker
Oh, I didn't know what you're trying to say. Then you said desperation. I'm like, okay, does he mean urgency? Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the, the urgency. I was production at it. shout shout Shout out, shout out, shout out Brad McDonald. I hate you. Um, yeah, the, the urgency behind getting back to it. Right. So I think that's, that's just the, the one thing.
00:11:34
Speaker
Yeah, no, good drill for sure. um And yeah, i think I think we need to add more of that sort of stuff to to our training. um With that being said, another thing we need to add a lot more to our training is the ability to play dead angles and being comfortable on it. And we've kind of touched on that lots when it comes to previous episodes. But...
Misuse of Professional Techniques by Young Goalies
00:12:01
Speaker
we haven't really dove deep into kind of the dead angles and into the, uh, the overlap position. Like I know we had a post play episode where we kind of touched a little bit on every aspect of post play, but we also did like a bit of a more deep dive into kind of some um RVH stuff. So I think, uh, I think kind of giving some love to being on our feet as well um needs to be had because, you know, this might be maybe I'm starting to get old and corrupted in my way of thinking. But, you know, I can now kind of yell at the kids these days are on their knees too much and, you know, whatever. But I do agree that there is
00:12:47
Speaker
an over reliance, I guess, on the RVH. And a lot of that, I think, just stems from a lack of understanding of our angles and kind of in the lower parts of our zone, kind of a lack of understanding of what the overlap is, when to use it, lack of understanding of what the um RVH is and when to use it. So what we see a lot of is kids who are watching pro goalies use the RVH a lot.
00:13:17
Speaker
because their game is significantly different than, you know, our young house lead goalies, right? Or even our young club goalies. um So it leads to seeing goalies in and out of the RVH constantly at the pro level.
00:13:33
Speaker
And so a lot of goalies kind of, that's what they do in their own game too. Couple that with the fact that I think too, there is even a bit of a lack of understanding or a lack of emphasis on this sort of play from goalie coaches as well.
00:13:53
Speaker
um And that kind of leads to this sort of stuff being overlooked way too much. and The reason that i was that I kind of wanted to do this topic, this morning I was on a video breakdown call with with a goalie of ours, and we were going through some game footage, and there was a few instances, including one goal against, where The goalie was in the RVH um in an instance that the overlap would have been more beneficial. and And so I kind of asked him, I'm like, so in your instance, because this is a goalie that's fairly new to us. Like he has worked with us a couple years ago, like before True North was the thing when it was just me doing stuff. But I haven't seen him for a handful of years.
00:14:45
Speaker
And so I kind of asked, I was like, hey, like, how much have you gotten like taught about the overlap? Like how much have you had somebody go through it and work drills through and stuff? And he's like, well, it's been brought up, but I haven't really had a lot of like work on it.
00:15:08
Speaker
And that kind of like made me think and I know he's not the only one and I've even i see a lot of goalies just not really know what to do when they're on their post. And it's kind of funny because nothing really changes when your post in play.
00:15:31
Speaker
But goalies tend to kind of, it's almost like their mind just melts when a post is around and and they just kind of freeze. They don't know what to do. Right.
00:15:42
Speaker
And so I think we do definitely need to incorporate a little bit more of our training to include standing post play and to include the overlap and to also understand more of the dead angles and kind of what they entail and why we do what we do when the puck's low in our zone.
00:16:01
Speaker
um Before we like really dive into the nitty gritty, is there anything that you kind of wanted to add on that?
00:16:09
Speaker
Um, no, I mean, I think we just... ah We're starting to see that shift um from and a player's side of things.
00:16:24
Speaker
um You know, where gold or where shooters and good shooters have managed to expose the RVH, especially when goal especially when that puck's above the goal line, right? And so we have to make that adjustment. There's been the Panda, which has died off in recent years. um and so
00:16:48
Speaker
I think as younger goalies come up through the system, they get so attuned that, oh, I have to stay in my little square instead of the the the semicircle that the crease actually is.
00:17:05
Speaker
depending on what arena you're at. um And so they think that, you know, going outside of the post, but staying in that blue paint there is kind of like ah a forbidden zone, I guess, if you will.
00:17:19
Speaker
um But I think as well, just part of that justt just relays to game situations, right?
Shift in Coaching Approaches
00:17:28
Speaker
I think a lot of goalie coaches, I mean, we've been guilty of this as well, um you know, rely so much on the technical aspect, but they don't focus so much on the game aspect of that as well because the overlap drills,
00:17:46
Speaker
are more so of a, um, situational awareness, not a situational awareness, but like situational play, um, game like decisions more than anything. And,
00:18:02
Speaker
like you had said, like it does it gets touched on, but it doesn't necessarily get worked on a whole lot. um And so that's something that I've been starting to incorporate with my drills. I've been focusing on a lot more game-like situations rather than technical stuff.
00:18:19
Speaker
um But Yeah, I don't know. I think that's, yeah, that's, it just, it doesn't get talked about enough. And I think we, depending on the level, I think we need to start straying away from, you know, more technical training and more game-like, game situation um training, in a sense.
00:18:43
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the big shift that we've kind of gone down the last you know couple years here. Like when I first started coaching, it was very much like that. Like it was like, OK, let's worry about you know how we get to our save, where our hands are, how we're tracking, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. and To an extent, that stuff is obviously important, but um understanding the game makes for much better goalies, that improvisation, that chaos that we kind of talk lots about, right?
00:19:15
Speaker
um That's the sort of stuff that really builds high quality goalies. And I think traditionally we've been way too rigid in the way we approach goalie coaching and we haven't been fluid enough.
00:19:27
Speaker
And That'll come, I think generally, not just with us, but I think generally that that's kind of been a shift in the goalie community. We need more of it, I think, for sure. But we're we're trending in the right direction.
00:19:43
Speaker
um What we'll do for those of you, at least on YouTube, um we'll throw up kind of a diagram. um And we'll maybe try and do something like that, too, for like the show notes or whatever. But I do have a little diagram that breaks up the um the end zone, like in our zone and kind of.
00:20:07
Speaker
It's a general rule of thumb. So obviously things change. um It's a general rule of thumb, but it's kind of my areas of the ice where I like overlap, where I like standing post play and where I like ah RVH.
Playing Dead Angles: Technicalities and Body Positioning
00:20:22
Speaker
And I think Jamie Phillips has something that is similar to that. And I think he what calls it the golden triangle or something like that.
00:20:29
Speaker
um i know he has yeah he's got some sort of diagram that is actually similar to that too um but it kind of talks about basically the dead angles is what we refer to so a dead angle is kind of anything off to the boards if you think of like drawing a triangle so the base of the triangle is the goal line to the post of the net so from the boards to the post of the net And then if you kind of go up the boards, probably to about the hash mark.
00:21:02
Speaker
And then the other side of the triangle, the third side is this just that diagonal from the the hash marks on the boards there to the middle of the net.
00:21:14
Speaker
That's kind of what we refer to as the dead angle zone. And the reason for that is in that area of the ice. if you stand from there and you look at the net just from the angle, the net is extremely small.
00:21:28
Speaker
Like there's not much room there to be able to put a puck in. And I think what a lot of goalies don't understand is just how small that net gets when you get closer and closer to the goal line.
00:21:42
Speaker
Um, And so that's why there's certain ways that we want to play that to be able to kind of maximize, you know, coverage of the net, but also still be able to move. Right. And that's one thing that the RVH, why it became so popular, because you could move off your post really easily for a lateral play.
00:22:04
Speaker
while still covering a decent amount of the net. The problem is, is because it became so widely used, like in situations that it shouldn't be used in, it's gotten better, but it's still um a little bit kind of, I don't want to overused, but just over lied on, right? Like used in the wrong spots.
00:22:27
Speaker
And, um and so, We kind of have gotten to the point now because of that, like Connor touched on earlier, the shooters are looking for it and they have those little windows that they can pick now.
00:22:44
Speaker
And, you know, they can get those shots off so easily and so quickly. And, you know, guys are also looking to bank it off helmets from behind the net or backs or whatever the case is. So now more than ever, we really need to dial in how we play our posts.
00:23:01
Speaker
And so on those dead angles, there are a few instances where the RVH does make sense, especially if they're in tight and there is a backdoor threat.
00:23:15
Speaker
Even if they're above the goal line, that is probably your number one scenario that you would want to be in the RVH when the puck is above the goal line. But more often than not, when that puck's above the goal line, but in that dead angle area, we want to play the overlap.
00:23:34
Speaker
And what the overlap is, is basically just a fancy way of saying being square to the puck and being on angle to the puck while the puck is very low in the zone.
00:23:46
Speaker
And the one thing that scares a lot of goalies is that actually means that your foot might be on or even below the goal line. So you are square to that puck. And if that puck is only like six inches or a foot above the goal line, your foot is probably out or below the goal line so that your body can be squared up.
00:24:12
Speaker
Because a lot of times what goalies do is they push back to their post and then their foot's on the post. But because their foot's on the post, that means their body is offset.
00:24:23
Speaker
And so the shooter actually sees basically all the net that they can see from that angle is open. Because the goalie's body is shifted off angle because their foot is stuck on that post. So their foot's kind of like right on angle, but their actual body isn't.
00:24:41
Speaker
And so that's a big one that I see a lot of goalies kind of make that mistake is they go into their post. And then the other thing too, is when they try and drop, their foot has nowhere to go. So it's either an awkward drop that throws them off balance Or as they drop because their foot can't extend as they drop into the butterfly, their body shifts even more because the foot just pushes off of the post as they drop and shifts their body even more away from that post, opening up even more net.
00:25:13
Speaker
So get comfortable goalies getting that foot not only in front of that post so you don't get stuck on it when you drop, but also shift it over to be on or just below that goal line, depending on where that puck is so that your body is square to that puck. Your body is on angle to that puck because that's your biggest area of coverage. And even for you young, small goalies, if you are on angle,
00:25:42
Speaker
When it comes to those dead angles in our zone, there's nothing to shoot at. That net is so small from that angle that your body width covers that whole net. There's nothing to shoot at.
00:25:54
Speaker
So we got to be doing a better job of that.
00:25:59
Speaker
Yeah. um
00:26:03
Speaker
Again, like like I go back before, you know, it's that situational awareness part of that as well.
Deciding Between Overlap and RVH
00:26:10
Speaker
Right. um
00:26:15
Speaker
You know, because like I said before, you know, just natural instinct and because we've hammered it home so many times is pucks in the corner you got to get back to your post which is true to a certain extent but also that puck is below the goal line we don't necessarily touch on that space a whole lot of what happens in between that space that's below the circle and above the goal line right and so that's where we get caught a lot um you know in that situation of uh pucks in the corner essentially and so we got to get back to my poster I think that we cover more net when we're in the ah RVH but I don't think we think about the angle part of that a lot either right so being in that overlap position we don't necessarily have to be so far
00:27:00
Speaker
outside of our post, but we want to make sure that, you know, that inside leg is almost parallel. Yeah, parallel in line, whatever with the um with the post. So we're on.
00:27:13
Speaker
So we're on angle. We're square. I mean, it mind you, like the the net or the the visibility of the ice in front of us decreases a little bit because we're focusing, because it's such a smaller-ish area compared to board-to-board of the ice that we're so familiar with. um So just it's all about just reading you know the play appropriately, right, and paying attention to where that ah to where that um where that puck is in relationship to the ice.
00:27:45
Speaker
Yeah. and when it comes to the movement stuff, because I know the big criticism that I get when I work with older goalies who are so used to the RVH and are uncomfortable with the overlap, their big thing is, well, how do I get across? Like, I'm going to be slower to get across if there's a pass across.
00:28:09
Speaker
And so my kind of argument to that is If the player with the puck is tighter in the net, like if they're driving towards the net um or like coming out of the corner or something like that, then yes, by all means, either stay in the RBH if you're already there in the instance of them walking out,
00:28:28
Speaker
or you can go into the RVH if they are tighter to the net and there is a backside threat. That is one of the few situations that that's OK.
00:28:39
Speaker
But if you think about somebody driving down the boards and starting to attack the net, right there for they're far enough out that if they make that pass across and if you rotate properly, you can still get across for a pass.
00:28:56
Speaker
um But it's that rotation piece. like The problem is is a lot of goalies, they get so fixated on the puck. And you know as a guy starts to attack down low and towards the net a little bit,
00:29:09
Speaker
That's when we see goalies get super low, super wide, lock themselves in. and then all it takes is a little fake and then a pass over and you're done. You're cooked, right? Like you drop down and all of a sudden you're trying to now reach back with a paddle or a glove or something, right?
00:29:25
Speaker
The big thing is, is you have to be able to rotate and you still have to be mobile. Like you can't lock yourself into that guy with the puck. Like he's still your priority, obviously.
00:29:37
Speaker
But we have to be able to set ourselves up in a position to still be able to move. And again, take that time to get that full rotation and you'll be fine unless you're somebody that really struggles with lateral movement. But then we're probably dealing with other issues anyways, as it is um that we would have to shore up.
00:29:58
Speaker
But yeah. If you keep yourself mobile, the overlap isn't very um hindering, I guess, when it comes to our lateral movement.
00:30:08
Speaker
Now, the other one that I see too, and this kind of is what ties in a little bit to what the drill of the month was doing with the overslide recovery there, um is if somebody is driving down the wall with speed and then they go below the goal line.
00:30:29
Speaker
And so that's one that again just comes down to reps and practice of being able to transition in and out of the overlap. Because if you have somebody screaming down the wing and you don't know how to transition back into your post effectively, then yes, you are going to get burned. And we have seen that too. Like some goalies are in the overlap. They kind of commit to the butterfly and then the guy just skates around the other like basically wraps around to the other side of the net and it's an easy kind of open net on the wraparound, right?
00:31:03
Speaker
um Yes, that does happen. But again, the more reps we get, and the more comfortable we are kind of moving just outside of the post and getting ourselves back into that post with the edge work, just like we had in the drill of the month there.
00:31:18
Speaker
That sort of stuff isn't as big of an issue. And yes, obviously like, We're not going to make the right decision 100% of the time. Like, sure, maybe a certain situation, you might have been better off in the RBH instead of the overlap. But it's it's that calculated risk versus reward. There might be that one or two instances out of every 50 that that happens. Right. So that's why with goaltending, a lot of its percentages and a lot of it's just trying to give ourselves the best shot.
00:31:52
Speaker
and sometimes even if we try and make the best decision it could still be the wrong decision there's a lot of variables in hockey but we want to make sure that we're putting ourselves into a position to be able to make that right call more often than not i kind of have one more thing to go into but i don't know if you have anything you wanted to add No, all all I was going to say is just we're like we're not reinventing the wheel, right? It's not as soon as we go into that overlap position, just the the game or the tech or the the technological aspect of goaltending changes, right? You still have to pay attention to your depth. You still have to pay attention to your positioning. You still have to pay attention to your angles, right? Your recovery is afterwards as well. and like nothing Nothing changes when we go into the RV, not the RV, h the the overlap.
00:32:46
Speaker
Everything still is the same. Now we're just with the overlap. We are in a little bit more of a tighter, excuse me, tighter, compact space, if you will. It's not the total technological term that I want to use, but you guys get the idea. Right.
00:33:03
Speaker
Well, again, like I said, like we're so focused on, you know, wide ice going board to board. As soon as we get we're basically, you know, 90 degrees to the boards. Right. So now we're going and now so now we're focused on end to end in a sense. But the the space that we're paying attention to in front of us has gotten a lot smaller because we are in a little bit more of a tighter angle.
00:33:28
Speaker
Point being is that nothing, like I said, nothing changes at the end of the day. We're still in the right spot. Still have to pay attention to our depth. Still have to pay attention to our track. And still to pay attention to our positioning and all that.
00:33:40
Speaker
And just now we're working in a little but in a little bit more of a confined space than than than than what we're used to. But it's the the everything just still remains the same at the end of the day.
00:33:53
Speaker
Yeah, and that's actually one thing I did forget to mention with the movements as well is the depth portion. um The other thing too, like when we talked about earlier about the passes across from the overlap, if you have too much depth, like with anything else, obviously you're going to get roasted. but with the dead angles and with the overlap because the net is so small you don't really need any depth to cover the net like to cover the shot right so gaining that depth only actually makes it harder to get back and doesn't actually really offer any benefit at that angle so what i kind of like to use as an example is the and nhl crease so most of you are probably playing with the full semicircle crease
00:34:43
Speaker
But the NHL crease at that elbow usually just goes straight down to the goal line. It doesn't continue with that radius of the semicircle. It just goes straight down. Right. So um that's usually kind of what I tell my goalies is follow that straight line down so you can follow your crease line when you're making adjustments like say you're shuffling over it If you're going like top of the circle to top of the circle, then yes, you're following your crease line. But as soon as they start cutting down the wall, now we want to go in a straight line down.
00:35:21
Speaker
So we're not getting ourselves to like the top of the semicircle crease in that overlap position because that's too far out. You're not gaining more net coverage. All you're doing is making it harder to get across the net. So usually what I say is just get enough depth to clear your post so that if you drop, you're not stuck on either your post or the side of the net. But that's all you need.
00:35:44
Speaker
Anything more is just detrimental. um And then the last thing that I kind of wanted to touch on with this is.
Importance of Small Lateral Movements
00:35:54
Speaker
Our adjustments.
00:35:56
Speaker
So the other mistake that I see a lot on these dead angles is goalies making way too big of adjustments. Because again, at this dead angle, there is such like such a small sliver of net that when that puck changes angle, whether somebody kind of...
00:36:17
Speaker
kind of pulls in for a shot or goes backhand to forehand or takes a couple steps down the wall or whatever the case is the angle really doesn't change much at that kind of area of the ice so we need to make sure that our adjustments are extremely small when we're making those shuffles they have to be tiny Because one big push and all of a sudden the whole net that you were covering is now wide open.
00:36:51
Speaker
And that's a mistake I see lots on the dead angles as well. um You can do like, if you don't believe me, you can do a little kind of exercise where...
00:37:03
Speaker
You have a puck along the boards at like the top of the circle. So if you have a ring a rink with the ring outline, that's a good indicator. um But just have a puck start there, have the goalie be set, and then have the player take two steps down the wall and have the goalie not move. But just take two steps down the wall, then stop and get the goalie to move.
00:37:30
Speaker
and then do it again and do it again. And you'll see that the closer and closer you get to the goal line, the smaller and smaller you actually have to move to make that adjustment.
00:37:41
Speaker
So that's another thing to understand, too, is that when we're moving on those dead angles, we have to make sure that there's very little a lateral movement happening or else we're going to open up a lot of that net that wasn't previously there.
00:37:58
Speaker
Yeah. um
00:38:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's it's it's that recovery aspect, right? How do we get out of our dead angle when the pucks now starts to move from that small sliver of ice that we are that that we're working with to basically the the entirety of the ring again, right? And so that depth part of it really...
00:38:23
Speaker
is important because we don't want to be, you know, trying to occupy the same space as our net, but we don't want to be so far out either that it's going to be a longer distance for us to get back to the regular part of our crease.
00:38:35
Speaker
Um, but yeah, no, you, you, you, you nailed everything else on the head with, with that last point there. So I don't really have much else to touch on with that. Okay.
Transitioning Between Post Play Techniques
00:38:44
Speaker
Yeah, that was kind of mostly all that I had to go over on the overlap stuff. Um,
00:38:51
Speaker
again just like everything else we talk about it it's another tool in the toolbox and it's one that again just doesn't get worked on enough or doesn't get talked about enough um and it's a very important part of our game too like if you can master when to be in the overlap, when to be in the ah RVH, when to be on standing post play and be able to move effectively in and out of those kind of three areas of our post play.
00:39:23
Speaker
It's it's incredible as to how much easier it is right to get to our spots early, to be comfortable when the puck's in any part of the zone, because I find as soon as that post is involved, goalies just get uncomfortable.
00:39:36
Speaker
And they default to just going up against the post because that's the one thing they are comfortable with because that's pretty much every goalie drill starts with, okay, start on your post, push out.
00:39:48
Speaker
right So that's the one thing goalies are super comfortable with. So that's the thing they default to. But a lot of times there's actually very few instances that we want to be in that situation. It's basically when the puck's in the corner.
00:40:04
Speaker
That's like when we want to be in that situation for the most part. Right. So. um Work on transitions into and out of the overlap work on, you know, kind of pushing out from the overlap, your depth management, work on small adjustments down the wall, stuff like that, like get comfortable being in and around your post in various ways so that you can get from one to the other and be OK with it, depending on the situation. Right. Because again,
00:40:36
Speaker
our job is to give you guys as many tools as possible so that you guys can then take the situation that's developing in front of you and use that information to make the best possible decision with the tools that you have in your tool set. Right. And that's kind of that's really when things start to snowball. And when we really start to see success is when goalies start to do that on a consistent basis.
00:41:03
Speaker
um So this is just another one of those tools in the tool belt that you can, you know, get comfortable with and and actually use for the appropriate application. And you'll you'll find you're a lot more comfortable on on that post and just with pucks in that area of
Social Media, Podcast Promotion, and Upcoming Training Camps
00:41:22
Speaker
the ice. so
00:41:27
Speaker
yeah hope yes all yeah yeah that's all we got all we got all right so you want to take us home connor i'll take us home ladies and gentlemen that'll do it for another episode of the diy goalie podcast presented by true north gold tending make sure you guys follow us on your favorite social media platforms whether that is facebook twitter instagram However you use social media, um all of that is True North Goaltending, except on Instagram, because we like to be different. That one is Y-E-G Goalie Coach. Follow us on your favorite social media platforms, Apple, iHeart, Spotify, or wherever it is that you get your podcasts.
00:42:05
Speaker
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00:43:32
Speaker
ah We do have we also have a couple of our ringette spots that have been filled up. So you guys want to hop in on the ringette side do that's there too. There we go. So the ringette to ringignette camps are gaining some traction, which is something that we love to see. How's our um how's our beginner camp going? It's that two-day camp in early August. There's only five spots in that one. The four-day camp has...
00:44:00
Speaker
nine spots, I think. And I think the ringette has 10. So, and it sounds like still a lot, but those do fill up pretty quick. So, yeah, some, some people do generally tend to swoop in the last second and, uh, clean those spots. So make sure you guys do that quickly because August is couple months away.
00:44:23
Speaker
So, which is crazy. This off season has kind of been flying by and Nathan and I have both been incredibly busy, but, um, that's a that's a as as as nathan likes to say that's a good problem to have um yeah beyond that um thank you guys so much for watching and listening it's always fun to see the analytics and kind of where people are listening in the world um which is uh incredible just the the reach that this podcast is has garnered so we really do appreciate
00:44:53
Speaker
all of that. And with that being said, on behalf of myself and Nathan Park, this has been the DIY Goldie Podcast presented by Entrepreneurs Goaltending. Make some saves goalies. We'll see you guys next time. Take care.