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This week Nathan flies solo to talk about if we are overcoaching our goalies and how that may be affecting their development. We also talk about the balance between what is helpful vs what is too much.

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Introduction and Podcast Milestone

00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to the DIY Goalie podcast where hosts and goalie coaches Nathan Park and Connor Monday share their insights on how to become a better goalie.
00:00:18
Speaker
Goalies, welcome back to another episode of the DIY Goalie podcast presented by True North Goaltending. ah It is just me today, Nathan Park, as your host, Connor, is not around kind of last minute today. So, um, We're going to fly solo. ah But we are going to be now that we're kind of winding down on the season, we are going to be looking at hopefully bringing on a couple of guests in the near future. We're also going to actually work on building ourselves a bit of a
00:00:53
Speaker
a runway of episodes so that once the season kind of hits next year we don't have to be scrambling so much on episodes some of these days um but uh hopefully you guys are doing well again as always thank you for tuning in to our uh our little show here it's uh still kind of crazy that we're uh now into three figures into uh our hundredth episode after our last week. And this one's one-on-one. So again, we appreciate all of you

Changes in Hockey Landscape

00:01:23
Speaker
today. i kind of wanted to go through a bit of a topic that's, I don't know, a bit of a hot button issue these days when it comes to hockey. Um,
00:01:38
Speaker
I haven't played in a little less than 10 years. It's been about eight years since I finished my career playing college. And since then, like eight years really isn't that long of a time, but my goodness has the landscape of hockey changed drastically since then, at least here in Canada, for sure. um I can't really speak to other regions, but I know, um We're in Western Canada, but I know obviously Ontario has gone through a drastic amount of change. um And you can argue whether or not it's for the better, for the worse. um I think there's arguments for both sides.
00:02:22
Speaker
um There's pros and cons to kind of how things are are starting to to shape up in the hockey landscape these days.

Coaching vs. Resource Overload: Impact on Young Athletes

00:02:31
Speaker
But the one thing that I kind of wanted to talk about today was related to coaching and kind of that balance between when is it too much coaching?
00:02:46
Speaker
um The one thing that, well, there's lots of things, but kind of one of the big things that's, uh, that is really unique to the generation of athletes that are playing these days is kind of our whole societal landscape. Like you look at, you know, yes, social media was around um when I was growing up and playing, but it was a little bit, you know, in its infancy, it's not nearly as, uh,
00:03:17
Speaker
as or wasn't really as widespread as as it is now. um The way we consume content as well nowadays is drastically different. So, um you know, the shorts like you got your YouTube shorts, you got TikTok, all of this stuff like we've talked about it lots of times on the podcast about how little we actually have goalies and just hockey players in general and probably athletes and other sports as well. Just not sitting down and watching games, not kind of getting that sort of
00:03:50
Speaker
you know, that sort of exposure, everybody kind of wants the quick hitters, like what's the highlight? What's, ah you know, what was the big goal from last night or the big save or the big hit? um You know, what can I consume in 10 seconds or less and and all of that? So obviously we're seeing, you know, declines in attention spans and other kind of cognitive development or cognitive development. I don't know. cognitive development issues stemming from that.
00:04:21
Speaker
But so the thing that I've also kind of noticed has shifted and in one sense, it's a good thing, but in another sense, maybe not so much is how much of a focus there is on development and how much we're kind of exposing these young athletes to to a lot of stuff that they weren't exposed to in, you know, previous generations. Like when I played um and maybe this whole podcast episode will just be a big guy old man yells at cloud kind of moment. And maybe some of you will disagree with me heavily and tune me out and that's OK. But I figured it was a good discussion.
00:05:09
Speaker
But back when I played at least around here, You went to your minor hockey association. you were tiered according to your evaluations. You played your season and then did it all the next season.
00:05:24
Speaker
When you got old enough, which was at the U15 level, like when I played, there was no AA or AAA stream here in Alberta for U11. Now there is, um and you have the unsanctioned side of things, which is a total other can of worms. But when I played, you played for your minor hockey association.
00:05:48
Speaker
You went to club if you were good enough at U15, played double A or triple A.

Personal Decisions: NCAA and Sports Enjoyment

00:05:53
Speaker
And then basically when you aged out of minor hockey and the club stream, you either kind of went major junior or you went to junior A or junior B or whatever the case is. um If you went the major junior out, you couldn't go NCAA. And now that has recently changed.
00:06:12
Speaker
um But. You know, we didn't have a lot of the extras. Like, we didn't really have a lot of goalie development during the season. We kind of went to a goalie camp in the summer.
00:06:26
Speaker
um There wasn't a lot of like we did dry land like stuff like some strength or conditioning stuff like um away from the rink as well. But that wasn't happening very often. um a lot of the extras weren't really available. Like, you know, people didn't really talk about going to see sports psychologists. People didn't really talk about.
00:06:50
Speaker
um you know, like the, the mental prep side of things. Um, there wasn't anything related to like cognitive training, not really much in terms of, you know, increasing your hand eye coordination, um or I should say improving your hand eye coordination. Um, you know, there, there was some information on stuff like nutrition and sleep and hydration and all that, but, uh,
00:07:18
Speaker
wasn't very you know widespread, wasn't very detailed and all of that. And nowadays, you basically have somebody who's an expert in like every facet of the game, which is good, like knowledge is good. The ability to um pull from a wealth of resources is obviously great for development. But we have gotten to a point that I've kind of started to wonder if we're almost over coaching or overexposing some of our young athletes to a lot of this stuff and potentially kind of creating like some overwhelming, you know, feelings for our young athletes and kind of,
00:08:09
Speaker
potentially leading to more burnout, more stress, more resentment and kind of losing a lot of that, you know, childhood fun. Like, I mean, I know when we were playing, you know, it was like, oh, let's go to the ODR for four or five hours with your buddies and just, you know, take two on ones and breakaways all day, have a little scrimmage with whoever else is out there. and You know, we used to like,
00:08:35
Speaker
go throw a football around, go, you know, kick the soccer ball around, played like I personally played out in ball hockey. I played soccer.
00:08:46
Speaker
um i did a few other sports along the way. uh, and And as much as I wish that I got more goalie specific development when I was playing, like I wish um I had consistent coaching like throughout my hockey season and all of that stuff.
00:09:04
Speaker
um The nice thing was, was, there was a separation like yes when i got to the higher levels and played at the elite levels um there's obviously pressure like pressure to perform pressure to be consistent um to you know do the things on and off the ice um well on a consistent basis um but there was also a separation from that pressure the season was over You could take some time to yourself. You can recoup, you could regenerate, and do what you needed to do with that. And it almost built kind of that love for the game, that that desire to kind of come back.
00:09:45
Speaker
Like even after my junior career was done. I kind of told myself that if I didn't get any NCAA looks um for Div 1, that I was going to call it a career there. And so after my junior career was done, I got a couple offers from some state schools that were ACHA Div 1 or NCAA Div 3. But I just didn't want to spend the crazy amounts being an quote unquote international student from Canada, um you know, paying like twenty some thousand dollars US a year.
00:10:20
Speaker
So i just decided I had enrolled at, you know, a college college. in my hometown kind of Edmonton and uh and just decided that's what I was gonna do but a month or two into the off season got the itch again and I'm just like you know what I I want to play again if I can so I called the coach there was another third goalie spot open so they brought me on board and I played another two years and I think some of that gets kind of lost these days i think there's a lot of uh
00:10:57
Speaker
a lot of young athletes that are kind of losing that love for the game because of how much, you know, we're doing like we're doing year round hockey, we're doing nutrition calls, we're doing um sports psychologist meetings, we're doing cognitive training stuff, we're doing on ice stuff like You know, there's people out there that are going to 6 a.m. goalie practices before school and then they go do their team practice after school and maybe they do a personal workout at the gym after that or before that or whatever.
00:11:35
Speaker
And although, yes, this sort of stuff is good for the development.

Individualized Coaching Techniques

00:11:41
Speaker
um At some point, it does become to be a little bit too much, though.
00:11:47
Speaker
And I'm going to kind of, as we go, I'm going to narrow the focus of this conversation more and more, but, um, In general, I think just how much we're doing and how much we're exposing our kids to, I feel like can almost be a little bit of a detriment, right? um I've been talking lots with some goalies this year that I've been working with when we're doing like our mentorship calls and kind of
00:12:23
Speaker
discussing this sort of stuff. um Like there's goalies that are telling me, well, I've seen things or I've been told things that I should be doing this. Like I have to be doing this, but it's not working for me.
00:12:38
Speaker
um Like I have a goalie that I've been working with that is just like he's told me that I've tried the visualization And I just can't picture it. I do the five senses where I try and, you know, make it so i can hear, I can see, I can taste, I can feel like what's going on. and I just, it doesn't work for me. i just find I don't benefit from it. Like I don't feel like it's it's getting me any further, but I feel like I need to be doing it because everybody is saying that visualization is such a good tool.
00:13:20
Speaker
And i was kind of telling him, I'm like, well, if it doesn't work for you, like that's the biggest thing is you need to find what works for your game in your approach.
00:13:32
Speaker
And like I think sometimes when we have 10 different angles um and 10 different experts kind of in our ears and telling us you know to do certain things, believe me, I am 100% on board with getting a sports psychologist and somebody you can kind of talk to about that sort of stuff. like Tons of tips and tricks and tools that we can use to be better with our our mental approach and our game from them. Great, great way to get reset techniques and all of that stuff.
00:14:05
Speaker
But at the same time, sometimes it can be overwhelming or it can like basically give us ah an approach that doesn't work. So.
00:14:18
Speaker
When I was talking to this goalie, I kind of told him how I visualized. um And I said, you know, because I didn't know any better, I didn't use any senses. I just kind of, you know, would take like in my mind of clips that I've seen of myself making big saves or routine saves. I would kind of play those over and then I kind of translate that to,
00:14:42
Speaker
almost feeling like my body's doing it, or I would even maybe make small kind of phantom movements with my hands to, you know, simulate making the save as I kind of played it through in my mind. Right. Or sometimes I would even just use clips themselves of me playing as kind of my quote unquote visualization. Right.
00:15:03
Speaker
um But there's going to be people where the approach to visualization just as a whole doesn't work. And there's also gonna be a lot of these things that people are giving you as tips or tricks that aren't gonna work for you.
00:15:22
Speaker
And it's it's just as important to drop something that isn't working for you as it is to make something that is working for you part of your routine. And trying to force something that,
00:15:38
Speaker
just isn't clicking because you think it's the right thing to do is not the way to kind of maximize our development. um The other thing too, like as we kind of narrow down more and more kind of specifically to on ice, we kind of see a similar thing going on when it comes to our approach to on ice development.

Overcoaching and Creativity in Goaltending

00:16:06
Speaker
There are a lot of coaches out there and i know I've been guilty of this as well, trying to kind of do a better job of this, but um I find, especially in the goalie community, and i don't know if it's because we are so kind of analytic generally, or if it's because, you know, we have such a unique position that is kind of lonely that we might kind of get caught up in our thoughts a little bit more or kind of try and analyze ourselves a little bit more because historically there hasn't been that support system for goalies most of the time.
00:16:43
Speaker
But we tend to hammer so much home on technique and on the smallest little details. And to the point that sometimes we can drive ourselves crazy with it, right? Like we're trying to refine things.
00:17:02
Speaker
the littlest things we're trying to find the littlest things to analyze everything, to try and find the next leg up the next, uh, advantage over the other goalie that I find. Sometimes we kind of get lost in the bigger picture, you know, the whole, like can't see the forest through the trees type deal.
00:17:26
Speaker
Um, I find that we're starting to see almost a bit too much of a swing, I think, on the over coaching side of things.
00:17:38
Speaker
um Sometimes, a lot of times actually, like, Having the ability to just improvise and just let things happen and kind of let our goalies, our athletes learn from their own mistakes is way more beneficial than having somebody constantly in their ear um and breaking everything down for them. especially since that also kind of creates a bit of a reliance, right? Like we want to build our goalies to be able to solve their own problems. And if they constantly have somebody there solving the problem for them saying, hey, you didn't do this, you didn't do that, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:23
Speaker
um They're not going to be able to, you know, get to that higher level of being able to analyze themselves and figure out where their own breakdowns are, right? um We deal with lots and lots of goalies at high levels, like, you know, U18 AAA goalies, U15 AAA goalies that we do video breakdowns with them. And it's kind of like,
00:18:54
Speaker
okay, what did you see here? um You know, why did we make this decision? And I don't mean to make this sound bad, but there's sometimes where some of the answers we get kind of make you scratch your head and you're just like, well, that doesn't make like any sense at all, right?
00:19:13
Speaker
um So I think I think sometimes taking a step back is actually the better approach than trying to hop right into it.
00:19:26
Speaker
um Letting our our goalies be able to kind of develop themselves. Like one of our philosophies at True North Goaltending, the thing that I joke lots with when I bring new coaches on board and talk about kind of our approach to coaching is... is I basically say, like I want to make our job obsolete. like I want to get to the point that the goalies we work with can make their own assessments. They can understand their own breakdowns. like i
00:19:58
Speaker
In my ideal world, I work with a goalie that we do a goalie session, and I basically don't have to say a word except go or you know nice save or whatever the case is. right because when they do something and there's a breakdown, they can be like, I should have had my hand out or I should have rotated better or I should have, you know, set my feet earlier or I didn't shoulder check and I missed where the backside guy was or whatever the case is.
00:20:27
Speaker
um And kind of the phrase that I've been running with for this is structured chaos. And i think having an approach of structured chaos where, yes, we obviously have a purpose in our development and we'll just, we'll make it easy and we'll just talk about like a single goalie session. so Yes, we want to have an approach for that single goalie session. We want to have a goal in mind as to what we're working on. We want to have kind of a plan as to how we're going to work on that. You know, whether it's you're talking about our drills, um whether you're talking about kind of the discussions that you want to have or the points you want to hit that we're really focusing on for the goalies. We need that structure to get anything out of our our development sessions.
00:21:25
Speaker
But on top of the structure, we need a little bit of chaos, um especially when it comes to hockey. Like the game of hockey is so chaotic and so random. Like I always kind of laugh at, you know, the whole, oh, it's it's the and NHL script or, you know, whatever. And I'm like, hockey is probably the absolute hardest sport to script.
00:21:47
Speaker
Because there's just way too much going on at any single time. You can't account for weird bounces off the boards. You can't account for puck hitting three sets of shin pads and going in, you know, like just stuff like that is is something that you can't.
00:22:07
Speaker
really prepare for. You can try to recreate it in in a session. You can try to you know have a game plan going in But it's ah you know it's the same thing as that Mike Tyson quote where it's like everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. right? It's the same thing with hockey. Everybody has a plan until that puck hits three sets of shin pads. And then it's, oh my goodness, like, what do I do here? I didn't go through, you know, last week's goalie session, spending 10 minutes on shots going off at three shin pads. um
00:22:48
Speaker
So I think that We need to, as a goalie community, like goalie coaches, goalie parents, goalies in general, almost need to take a small step back on how much coaching that we're doing and how much we're really breaking down and analyzing the position.
00:23:09
Speaker
And we need to almost foster that creativity. We need to foster that that chaos, that randomness, the improvisation. We need to really like that's one thing that like there's a couple of things that separate the elite level goalies from the good goalies. And that's one of them is the ability to improvise and the ability to solve problems on the fly in real time as they happen. And I think one side effect from kind of this over coaching approach that we've gotten to
00:23:46
Speaker
is that we have so many goalies that can't solve problems. They can't read the play. They don't know which decisions to make in certain situations. They either kind of get caught in between two things or they make the wrong decision or they just don't make a decision at all. And it ends up, you know, not being not being a good outcome. So so I think that we need a little bit of a shift in terms of how we approach goaltending.
00:24:24
Speaker
um I know Connor absolutely hates the term like cookie cutter goalie or a robotic goalie or whatever. And I totally agree. Like,
00:24:36
Speaker
where there's a reason that there's a certain style that every goalie plays to an extent, like there's a reason why the butterfly is a thing.

Art and Science of Goaltending

00:24:46
Speaker
There's a reason why, um you know, we're teaching goalies to basically do the same things across the board to a certain extent.
00:24:58
Speaker
Um, it's because of goalies playing the percentages and all that stuff. But, there is a bit of a sense of like it's become so scientific as opposed to an art now and i think we need to bring back a little bit more of the art component of it and mix that in with the science approach right so yes obviously we need to have you know the analytical side of things where we see
00:25:30
Speaker
okay what gives us the best percentage to make a save where should we be in this situation you know how can we maximize our coverage in the net all of that is definitely needed but i think the one thing that we've kind of lost a little bit in the goalie community is the ability to have that but the 10 of the time that things really fall apart How can we still manage to get something in front of the puck and then be able to recover back to a position of, you know, being technically sound, right?
00:26:10
Speaker
We all know that in a game, nothing happens perfectly. Like we talked about the chaos, the randomness. um And so there needs to be times where we have to be able to deal with that and react to that.
00:26:24
Speaker
And, I kind of tell my goalies this when I work with them, um when it comes to the desperation stuff, like when we battle battle for pucks and whatnot, right? There is actually like certain ways to have desperation saves that can actually put you in better spots to still recover after that, right? and We see it with the young goalies a lot.
00:26:53
Speaker
The first thing they do after they make a save and there's a rebound that's coming back to the net right away is they basically lie down, right? Like how many young goalies their instinct is to dive.
00:27:05
Speaker
um And the reason for that is because they still can't really move very well. um They haven't been taught how to recover properly or to kind of carry their save through into their recovery. So a lot of times that panic sets in and they just like lay down or they just stick a paddle out or something like that.
00:27:23
Speaker
Obviously, again, the technical side, we can try and lead with our body more. We can try and smother the puck more with our hands. We can get a little bit of a rotation before we push or dive. All of that stuff is great.
00:27:37
Speaker
um But then the art of it is being able to take that and translate it into the ability to just get something in front of the puck.
00:27:50
Speaker
doesn't like At the end of the day, it doesn't actually really matter how that puck stays out as long as it does on a consistent basis. We've kind of conditioned ourselves to make it so that there's a specific way that we look for for how we make our saves.
00:28:10
Speaker
um And we kind of have dictated that there's a right and a wrong way to do it. But at the same time, there is an argument to be made for a goalie that does look like Dominic Hasek, who actually is stopping everything, versus a goalie that looks more like Connor Hellebuck, who's letting everything in.
00:28:32
Speaker
I've had conversations with coaches about this, where they've been asking me opinions on the goalies like maybe they're trying to choose um one or two goalies from a pool of three or four say like maybe final cuts or something like that and they'll be like well this guy looks good but he just doesn't stop a puck like i i i just can't take him like he can't stop a puck but if you watch how he plays he pushes to his spot he gets set
00:29:08
Speaker
His hands are out. He's tracking pucks, all of that stuff, but they just beat him. And that seems to, I don't want to say it's common, but I have noticed that a little bit. um recently with some of the goalies we've been working with and, and kind of like being more involved now at some of the higher levels, working with some of the goalies that I do and some of the teams and organizations that I do.
00:29:39
Speaker
um I do see a lot of that where I shouldn't say a lot of that, but I do see a decent amount of that where there are goalies that technically you can tell they've had a lot of solid development,
00:29:51
Speaker
But they just can't stop a puck. And so I think we almost need to take a bit of a step back in how we approach our development and how much we're really, um really coaching and help put a little bit more art into the position, help goalies be able to problem solve and to improvise, put them in chaotic situations. Like I said, that structured chaos, um that's kind of, I think, the best way that we can make the most well-rounded goalies. um We've seen...
00:30:34
Speaker
a lot of criticisms lately about the state of goaltending in general um i see people all the time these days that are like well when's the last time we've seen a proper elite goalie like do you remember the patty was and the marty brodeurs of of the day of the dominant casics right even if you look at like kind of the 2010s era i know he's still playing but like jonathan quick henrik lungfist you know carrie price Pecorine. There's a lot of people that like to look on these goalies a little bit with rose-colored glasses, um and I totally see why.
00:31:17
Speaker
Because a lot of those goalies were able to have a little bit of that, you know, improvisation mixed in with their their technical ability. We talked about it on a previous episode, though, like the game has drastically changed in the last...
00:31:34
Speaker
you know, five years, even the last two to three years um compared to before. So I don't think it's as much of a goalie specific issue as it is a combination of things.
00:31:48
Speaker
But I do think there is a little bit of validity and a little bit of an argument to make that we might um be seeing some kind of consequences to the over coaching that's been happening.
00:32:01
Speaker
um And, you know, we almost like have a generation of goalies that are having troubles, you know, being able to actually get in front of a puck and actually make a save as opposed to just, well, coach told me to get here and coach told me to put my hands here and coach told me to, you know, do X, Y, z So I did all those things. I checked every box he asked me to do.
00:32:31
Speaker
But the puck went in. Right. And so I think and trust me, I am a big proponent on the technical side of things. I'm very big on breaking it down for goalies and and trying to help them understand because that was something I didn't get growing up.
00:32:48
Speaker
um I wish I did. Like I ran through most of my career basically purely on athleticism. Um, but that's also part of why i was ex as successful as I was, was because I had to figure out on my own a way to get in front of the puck.
00:33:08
Speaker
And I think we need to kind of incorporate a little bit more of that into our training and into our development with our goalies. um Because, yeah, like we're we're starting to see kind of a weird ah a weird state of goaltending right now because you have a combination of...
00:33:29
Speaker
the player side of things really ramping up their specific development. We're seeing, you know, analytics being a big thing and teams starting to try and build more high danger chances. They're going for,
00:33:45
Speaker
quality over quantity. We're seeing, you know, maybe some, some kind of lingering effects of a poor support system for goaltending in general.
00:33:57
Speaker
um You know, in terms of like resources and in terms of like how head coaches use their goalies in practice and all that stuff. So we're kind of in a weird spot where,
00:34:10
Speaker
I think the high end, like if you talk about NHL goalies, they're all probably the best batch of athletes that we've ever had in terms of goaltending.
00:34:23
Speaker
And yet we have the lowest league average save percentage in the salary cap era. Like, I'm not convinced that if you put a guy like, i don't know,
00:34:36
Speaker
who's kind of your middle of the pack goalie that, uh, that you would think of, I don't know, maybe if we went with like a Philip Grubauer or, you know, uh, Darcy Kemper or something like that, like those guys that are, are still good goalies, but they're not who you think of when you think of like the elite and NHL goalies, kind of like, you know, Vasilevsky, Connor Hellebuck, stuff like that. Um,
00:35:04
Speaker
I still think that if you put a guy like that against you know a guy like a Marty Brodeur or a Paddy Wah, the guys of today would be quote-unquote better goalies.
00:35:20
Speaker
um just because of the development that they've had and all that stuff. like they're They're better athletes, they're stronger, they're quicker, all of that stuff, just because they've had a lot more training than the guys of the past have had.
00:35:35
Speaker
But again, more pucks are going in, right? The ability to improvise when things go wrong maybe isn't there like it used to be back in the day. So...
00:35:47
Speaker
um It's a weird state for goaltending right now as as a whole. um and I think a lot of people are way too quick to criticize goalies when it's it's just the shift in the game has made it so the game is a lot less favorable for goalies than it used to be.
00:36:07
Speaker
um But I do also think part of our downfall right now too is that we're just so... focused on the coaching on the breaking down of the position on the analytic side of things and i think we do need to go back a little bit take a little bit of a step back and kind of introduce a little bit more flow a little bit more you know, randomness, a little bit more kind of just free for all type deal on top of the technical stuff that we need to break down.

True North Goaltending Updates

00:36:46
Speaker
um That's obviously an important piece. But yeah, I think in general, We are over coaching.
00:36:56
Speaker
um I think the extent of it can be debated. Some people might argue bad ah it's not too bad. some I know definitely there are people out there that say it's way too much and we need to go back to the way of you know half butterflies and whatever. But I think that's a bit of an extreme view as well. um But just some food for thought, I guess, when you guys are going through your development stuff, um introduce some structured chaos.
00:37:24
Speaker
and work on the art of stopping a puck. At the end of the day, that's our that's our job. That's literally what we have to do as goalies is stop the puck.
00:37:35
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And sometimes it is that simple. It's not easy, but it is that simple sometimes. And sometimes we just got to do what we got to do to get that job done.
00:37:47
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And I think if you have the capability to do that when needed and the other 90 to 95 percent of the time you are dialed in on the technical side of things, I think that's really what's going to help separate you and kind of take you to those those higher levels. If you have that, you know, five to 10 percent of of improvisation to you.
00:38:11
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um So that's kind of all I had. I know that was, don't know, a bit of a rambly episode. um I kind of had a general idea and structure going in and kind of wung it, kind of improvised. So, you know, I guess preaching, preaching my own words or however you want to put it. But yeah.
00:38:33
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No, I appreciate you guys listening and tuning in. Hopefully that kind of made sense um through through the rambles.
00:38:43
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But Again, goalies, we appreciate the listenership. It's kind of cool to see where all you guys are coming from. If you do like the show, share it with a friend.
00:38:55
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If you can like, or subscribe on the platform, you guys are listening slash watching on that helps us out a lot as well. Um, if you do want to check out kind of what we have to offer, we are getting very close to our new new website, getting ready to go. And we do have some other cool things that we're kind of working on in the background, but, uh, You can go take a look at our drills and our merch and some blog articles and all that stuff at truenorthgoaltending.com. If you want to kind of take a look at what we have going on in terms of updates on the company or in terms of kind of some
00:39:32
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reels and stuff going on. We are going to be working on some content this off season. That's kind of one of the big check boxes that we're looking to do. um You can head to true north goaltending on Facebook, TikTok, YouTube on Instagram. We are Y E G goalie coach. You can check us out.
00:39:50
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um And yeah, we appreciate like any of that sort of stuff is free for you guys to do, but it does help us out a lot. It helps us kind of have more discoverability and get out to more goalies.
00:40:02
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Um, and, uh, and yeah, i think there's, there's never really enough, uh, enough goalie content out there. Uh, you know, we've kind of always gotten the short end of the stick as goalies. So, uh, you know, we're going to try and help to bridge that gap. I know there's a lot of other people that are doing really good things on that front as well. um But if you ever need to reach out, if you guys have a question you want on the podcast or anything like that, you can email us at goalies at truenorthgoaltending.com.
00:40:34
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Other than that, though, guys, appreciate you guys tuning in. And you guys keep making saves. Take care, goalies.