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🐺 Dire wolves could be back, 😱 but the cohosts talk about Snap instead. 🙄
For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- 🤖👍▶️ Week in Snap: Bots, BM, & the Big Time
- Kahhori 🔷 Cull Obsidian 1️⃣ Hydra Bob 🐙
- 🫢 OMG it’s an OTA 🤭
- Secret Homework: 🚍 field trip to Blockbuster 📽️
Mentioned Movies:
- (House of Flying Daggers)
- Bottoms
- Dicks: The Musical
- Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
- The Ten
- Kiki's Delivery Service
- Wolf Children
- (Palm Springs)
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Credits:
- Cover art by Lauren
- Snap On This!! Theme by Ben
- YouTube thumbnail by Lauren’s kid, Reggi
Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 Intro / Our Week in Snap / Snap Packs
- 0:20:28 Kahhori
- 0:41:57 OTA Discussion
- 0:54:08 Secret Homework: The SoT Cinematic Universe
- 1:07:49 Next Week's Secret Homework
- 1:08:51 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Introduction and Weekly Game Highlights
00:00:01
Speaker
Hey there, listener! It's episode 34 of Snap on This, a Marvel Snap podcast. I'm your host, Lauren Whatevs, here today with the usual amazing co-hosts.
00:00:11
Speaker
First up, Ben. How was your week in Snap? And keep it snappy.
Bot Encounters and Game Strategies
00:00:16
Speaker
Well, my weekend snap, endeavoring to keep it snappy as I so often do. um Another pretty light week. i I'm still facing mostly bots, which is not as much fun as I think some people would think. Or maybe it's not as much fun for me as it would be for some other people. I'm not telling you how much fun to have when you get the season where they're making you play exclusively bots.
00:00:43
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah, do you'll cross that bridge when you come to it and we'll see how you like it. um It stinks. I don't know. I know that Scott at Snap.Fan has a theory that there is something off with the bot distribution.
00:00:59
Speaker
ah they're They're serving some people, a lot of bots at different times, and different seasons or whatever. That's that's his theory. And I don't know, lines up with my experience, because like I usually see a lot of bots.
00:01:12
Speaker
But like some seasons I'm seeing like a lot, a lot of bots. And this is maybe the worst season. Also, I'm not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but it's specifically a lot of first name bots, like people with like names like Jake and like stuff like that.
00:01:29
Speaker
um Also, a lot of Marvel character bots. I'm running into a lot of Lokis, you know, that sort of thing. i you know Venom, ah that kind of stuff. like So those those are two kinds of bots that I'm seeing a lot of.
00:01:46
Speaker
Marvel character name and generic first name. um And that bot variance is my experience too. like I had a bot heavy season, but I've had some that are almost botless.
00:01:56
Speaker
It's inscrutable. I haven't had one of those in a long time, unfortunately. Mostly like they seem to be moderately body to extremely body in the past. six months or so, at least as far as I'm aware. you know, it's hard to keep very careful track, but yeah, I'm playing against the bots. It's not that exciting. Like I, there's no, there's no incentive. Like usually I get excited about trying new things and like testing new decks, but like,
00:02:27
Speaker
what what am I going to learn playing against bots? There's nothing like I can't find out if an idea is good or bad or like if it's real or anything like that. So Snap has kind of felt ah a little bit on the empty side for me because I don't, I don't like comp stomping. It's just not, not my life.
00:02:47
Speaker
um But ironically enough, I have been playing a shit ton of the bizarre, which, ah you know, there's, there's PVE stuff there. And ah even when you, you, battle other players. It's just their ghost and stuff. But like, hey, that's that's auto battlers.
00:03:04
Speaker
And i like to, you know, I can check my stat screen and see how many other people's ends have been or runs have been ended by my ghosts. And that's that's nice to know that.
00:03:15
Speaker
I'm out there crushing dreams, even ah sort of passively. You know, that's exciting.
Deck Insights and Token Disappointment
00:03:22
Speaker
Anyway, still having a lot of fun with that game. And I've got, but you know, and I played some Snap. And even though I haven't learned anything about the quality of this deck, I'll tell you about a deck that I built and played against all these friggin' bots.
00:03:35
Speaker
um Great. Ambiguous quality deck is what I'm here for. Yep, that's right. This is a surfer. It's an ongoing themed sort of surfer. No spectrum or anything, but there is Goliath.
00:03:48
Speaker
It's Ant-Man, Goliath, Sam Wilson, Mr. Fantastic, Brood, Silver Surfer, Captain America, Sebastian Shaw, Wong, Captain Carter, Iron Lad, and Sarah.
00:04:00
Speaker
I'm not really sure it's like justifying the somebody forgot to silence their phone before the podcast. um Anyway, it was me for the record.
00:04:12
Speaker
ah But yeah, I'm not sure about Goliath. ah There are nine ongoings, 10 if you count the shield. And also if you count Iron Lad, I'm counting Iron Lad as an ongoing.
00:04:24
Speaker
um And like, yeah, that's like, It's kind of cuspy for Goliath. You know, I don't know. 2-5 is exciting, but it's not that exciting. So, like, I'd really rather see a 2-6 or something. 2-7, maybe.
00:04:39
Speaker
But, yeah, I can't tell if that deck is any good, but it's good enough to beat bots. ah There's another deck that I built that I'm more excited about that feels, oh to me, more winning.
00:04:52
Speaker
ah But that's a Kahori deck, and I think maybe I'll save that for Kahori Discussions. So perfect that's been my weekend snap. And again, ah we had a crappy token Tuesday and hopefully next week will be a good one. But also maybe don't buy token Tuesdays because it seems like ah there's going to be something better to do ah in terms of exchanging gold for tokens in the near future. So keep keep an eye out for that.
00:05:19
Speaker
I think you're right. Okay.
Ree's Return and Card Changes
00:05:21
Speaker
Ree, how was your weekend snap? Um, so I finally did, as Ben drifted away from Snap into some bizarre game, um i came back.
00:05:36
Speaker
um Not really thanks to like, so I was like, the game will entice me back. No, was more like yesterday marked kind of a whole week. And I was like, I got to get back in for the podcast. I won't lie. i had dreams of like staring at the beigest corded phone from the 90s.
00:05:56
Speaker
Thinking about my snap. Yeah. Is it missing me? You know, when I hear the the the first resonant chords of ah the legendary theme from Guitar Man, the PlayStation 2 game, and I'm like, oh my God, who's playing one of my heart songs?
00:06:15
Speaker
And there it Marvel Snap outside my window, the radio. No, ah that didn't happen at all. So I get back and I was playing safety's flex tape deck.
00:06:30
Speaker
Somebody already talked about that last week. don't think so. and don't think so either, but I have played quite a bit of it. um It's been in our um anar thoughts and in our hearts minds and stuff.
00:06:42
Speaker
As per usual, ah so and no thanks to Marvel Snap, ah Safety brought me back with the promise of playing mini cards I like in a Safety-style deck, which Safety does the thing I love, which is like, how can I have a little toolbox to always have a chance to win?
00:07:00
Speaker
And that's exactly the deck I love to play. and um And this deck has Elsa. I just love to play Elsa. And Gwenpool and Galacta. So already it's a lot of fun.
00:07:13
Speaker
And Kitty Pride, who I enjoy. And I haven't really played since um we were doing Sanctum. um And for all those fours, you have a Zabu. Guardian is still but the best all around. Yeah.
00:07:28
Speaker
um tech, in my opinion. Nothing has surpassed him yet, right? Yeah. um Yeah, the old poor Jug. ah You know, if you don't have Red Guardian, Jug's apparently the one there, but um ah Captain America Sam Wilson.
00:07:45
Speaker
I really thought turning the shield off of one but's going to ruin ah Sam Wilson Captain in America for me. ah But I was wrong. What it ruined for me was Marvel Boy.
00:08:01
Speaker
Because who do I still play all the time and who never gets played anymore? Marvel Boy. I'm so sad. I'm sad for myself.
Card Dynamics and Strategy Adjustments
00:08:11
Speaker
um Okay.
00:08:12
Speaker
And Adam Steyer, who I also know lives my little boy. If you're listening. Okay. yes he had to I don't know. Novar. I know his name because of that. Get it right.
00:08:25
Speaker
every ah now about marvelville boy from ah marvelous snapler no Yeah, is Yeah, it's a great thread though. Yeah, you I you need to read it. I also know the cockroach thing about how he's he's a Kree cockroach guy. And I didn't learn that from from Adam. That's like the one fact you learn about Marvel Boy over and over in much the same way that this the one fact you learn about Hulkling over and over is that he's not technically a Hulk, but he's a Bruce Banner.
00:08:54
Speaker
Yeah, anyway. You know. yeah But but like there's always that one fact that like gets drilled into you by whatever like game you're playing or whatever. You know, the thing. The most unique fact. The shallow fact.
00:09:07
Speaker
Right. Sure. Okay. ah Sorry. Finishing off. No, we're good. Let me finish the deck just because I haven't said it all. It's mostly, like I said, a lot good cards um with versatile tools.
00:09:22
Speaker
Like Iron Patriots here. rocket at Raccoon, and Groot, if I haven't mentioned them Captain Carter. Kind of, I think, the whole what he was putting this deck together for.
00:09:35
Speaker
and Jeff, you know? Just some good... ah Some good cards that are fun and flexible. I got in. I got in and I immediately.
00:09:47
Speaker
okay ran into I like Mina moted someone for the first time and like quite a while. And it was like, it was actually hard because like, okay, here's what happened as we get in their name. Here's the thing about your Marvel, you know, about names and stuff is there's so many parts of like our initial impressions and first greetings that are out of our control, you know, about who we are and the way we look.
00:10:17
Speaker
But like you get to choose your name. in game, you know, or if you want to present yourself as I do, as the Spider Gwen, like graffiti about with the like, so whatever, I don't care, I'm upside down, um which is how I like to present myself lately.
00:10:35
Speaker
ah You know, if you choose a that is, don't think should technically be against the terms of service, but makes me dislike you to your very core and the basis of how you chose to identify your very self.
00:10:51
Speaker
um Yes. And I did. And I know the time. um I muted them immediately um because like that's all these people. Everyone is my attention, which I refuse to give them.
00:11:02
Speaker
And then then after I muted them, I proceeded to whip them soundly. And then unmuted them. At the very end. And then I was like, okay, what am I?
00:11:16
Speaker
I'm so mad. hate them. like What am I going to do? Ms. Marvel is what I think of first, but really, feel like Ms. Marvel is a sore loser emote, right? It's like, you lost, but I want to take that feeling of losership and bounce it off me and back to you. You're the loser. You, know?
00:11:35
Speaker
But in this case, I'm not. I'm the winner. And so I'm reaching. And, you know, usually the only emotes I use are like Gambit Hard Eyes, like when I run into mandatory burnout and ladder. um Or, you know, or sometimes a Scarlet Witch, usually at the end of a friendly match in which I won.
00:11:55
Speaker
But I want to let my opponent know, hey, it was real close. Either could have got it. Yeah, of course. And this time so I reach,
Interview Insights and SnapPacks Discussion
00:12:04
Speaker
and in a panic, because I only had limited time, i ran for like,
00:12:08
Speaker
I went for a Deadpool. ah Sassy deadpo sasy Deadpool. right thing because sassy Deadpool is more like, I'm so naughty, you know, like kind of thing.
00:12:20
Speaker
And what I really wanted to say to this person was like, I hope that every step you take in the future ends in a baker's dozen of tiny sharp objects until the wreckage that was your feet matches the ruins of wasted human potential that is comprises the rest of you. There wasn't an email for that.
00:12:42
Speaker
Yeah, is there a hallmark emote for that? That's what I wanted to say them. So anyway, I couldn't think of anything in time. But like, you know, I i reached for the mean emote and it wasn't there because i don't i don't go there after.
00:12:55
Speaker
Anyway, dilemmas. Emote dilemmas. That was ah my day in Snap. Yes. I'm playing Snap again.
00:13:08
Speaker
Yes. I'm back. I'm excited. i want to play Kohori with some Dino and stuff. Also, I feel validated because what I'm hearing around and it's just like very vague hearings because I've i've like just been kind of out of it for a while is that people think Captain Carter isn't super great. So I feel justified in my two star.
00:13:29
Speaker
And then... um People also aren't liking Kahori as much or something. so I'm like, oh, maybe my three star was a little more. um She said, who said that nobody cares about rankings ever previously. Okay.
00:13:44
Speaker
okay Um, yeah. You know, Sassy Deadpool misused is one of the most, I don't know, bothersome emote uses to me. I'm just like, there are so many good ways to use this emote. You don't use it when you win a 50-50. Like, you didn't do anything clever. Yeah, it should fun, right? It should be a real, like... There are good ways to use it.
00:14:06
Speaker
Wasn't that cute what I just did You know, not like a you know, yeah, it's not another Miss Marvel. Don't turn all the good emotes into Miss Marvels. But I fully support using mean emotes towards people who self-report as bad people.
00:14:21
Speaker
um Right? You chose this for yourself. All right. My week in Snap, i I mean, probably for sure the most notable thing I did was ah join an interview with Guest and Nina and Binks with the new, oh, what's his title? Matt, he's the ah senior product manager, I think, of of Second Dinner, or at least of Marvel Snap.
00:14:49
Speaker
um He's the new Steven, if you were familiar with Steven. um There's Steven left? Yeah. yeah I think Steven's still at second dinner, but I don't know if he's like... a higher level or like if he's working on the new game, I'm not sure.
00:15:04
Speaker
Um, and I could be wrong, but that's my understanding is he is not working on snap anymore, but he's still at second dinner. Um, anyway, got to interview Matt. That is on the official Marvel snap YouTube channel.
00:15:19
Speaker
Certainly the biggest audience I've ever had. Well, I mean, I guess I don't see numbers for Marvel snaps on it. Maybe something there has been bigger, but I would imagine it's YouTube. That's, you know, a pretty casual friendly space.
00:15:30
Speaker
Uh, anyway it was fun so we got it we got to ask him some questions about snap packs and we already honestly knew a lot about them but got a few extra answers we got the prices and and i learned some things from watching it yeah and i i don't know do we want to talk about it now or save it for later yeah talk about it okay it's on the it's on the show notes later but this was kind of my weekend snap um
00:15:59
Speaker
So yeah, the prices are great. They're, um, they're within the range that I predicted on snap zone. Um, they're on the very bottom of the range. So they are low. Um, I mean, I've seen plenty of people say they're not low enough, but they're, they're the low end of what I expected. And then I thought that the goodies would be an extra four or 5% value. And they, and Matt said they're going to be about 10% extra value, which is pretty good.
00:16:27
Speaker
um So yeah, 5,000 tokens for for new cards. You get to choose. like Do you want you want a discount for randomness?
00:16:38
Speaker
Or do you want to pay full price to get the cards you want? I still don't know how I feel about them overall. I think they're probably better for most players. But the way they're trying to be better for new players is not by improved acquisition speed, but by improved targeting.
00:16:59
Speaker
like It's easier to get into the deck you want to play. That's maybe a good thing, but the token shop spots that are rotating, they're bad, right? like If I'm looking for my first Series 3 card, there's 125 them right now. I'm going to check my phone three times a day for the one Series 3 card I'm looking for.
00:17:19
Speaker
if I miss it, I have to wait for another entire cycle through. It's bad. Honestly, i hope this that was bad when I... was in series three. oh geez. That was so long ago. There were so few cards and it seemed like impossible to get the one you wanted there.
00:17:36
Speaker
um yeah. Such a pain. that must be terrible.
00:17:40
Speaker
So there's pros and cons. I think that ah it probably is a good thing to get people into the deck. They want to play faster. But i need to see improvements there. Right. And, and,
00:17:55
Speaker
I think we will see them, but I hope that it doesn't take too long. like Even if it was three rotating slots per series, that would be it would go three times faster. like That would help. um don't know.
00:18:07
Speaker
I will certainly do a big big ah analysis on SnapZone once we have all the information. We still don't know what the goodies drop tables look like. ah But they did announce SnapPacks are coming April 29th, end of the month.
00:18:23
Speaker
So if I were a more disciplined human being, I would be saving my resources. But instead, I'm spending 6,000 tokens and three keys to get the Kohori Spotlight variant. I think I saw a team answer that they're going to like force the update two days after the update releases. So there'll actually be like two days where you can get Hydra Stomp or the old way. yeah Yeah, with spotlights. And he'll have two Spotlight cards with him.
00:18:53
Speaker
To be announced. I mean, they're in the data mines, but hey, maybe maybe they'll change change them up. Who knows? They have data mines for spotlights going out quite a bit longer, you know, in case...
00:19:04
Speaker
In case the second, ah the what is it? June, I don't remember, June 6th or something. Nope, that's my wedding day. ah June 1st? I don't Whatever the first patch in June is, that was going to be the alternative release date for ah SnapPacks. And I think that they have spotlights going out at least that far, maybe even further.
00:19:28
Speaker
TBD, what is going to happen with spotlight variants? That did not come up. ah There was not a clear answer. ah We did ask Matt about it, and and it sounds like they don't know yet.
00:19:39
Speaker
But they do want to continue spotlight variants and also like continue new spotlight variants and bring back the old ones somehow. the The plan is not to do away with spotlight variants just because the spotlight caches are going.
00:19:55
Speaker
Yeah, I expect it'll just be the new cards that'll get Spotlight Variants, not like, you know, every series four and five cards. The path of least resistance. It's probably a good thing, given how that went.
00:20:07
Speaker
An easier way to ensure, like, a really good Spotlight, special Spotlight Variant. Yeah, and I think, yeah, just like, the week a card releases, let the Spotlight Variant be available for 2,000 or 3,000 tokens. Like, that's great. i don't know.
00:20:21
Speaker
Yeah. Or some gold. Whatever. Okay.
New Card Kohori and Community Reactions
00:20:28
Speaker
i already brought up Kohori. I was trying to do a smooth segue, but here we here we are.
00:20:32
Speaker
4-6. Kohori, reshaper of worlds. On reveal, each card in your hand gives one of your cards in play plus one power. already told you how I got her.
00:20:43
Speaker
but How did you get her? If you did. Me? I got her and I spent tokens. That's what I did. Same. yeah And i have even played the card. I know, right?
00:20:57
Speaker
Wild. What? So often I'm playing these new cards. Do I do it for the podcast? Maybe. i don't know. The deck that i decided to play has a bunch of cards.
00:21:08
Speaker
i Well, it's not a deck that I decided to play. It's deck that I built, and I built it with a bunch of cards that I don't really play ever at all. um let Let me tell you about the cards I don't play in it.
00:21:19
Speaker
Snowguard. Never. Never. Oh my gosh, I won a game last night by snowguarding. I turned off Limbo on turn six. Yeah! She's still great. People never think you're going to play it.
00:21:32
Speaker
to Yeah, like the opponent had all the information. I was like, is this actually going to work? Sure enough. I remember. It's like Echo. This was a human, too. this was not This was not a bot. This was one of my human matches.
00:21:44
Speaker
So I was delighted because I i never do location-based game things. Oh, I feel so sad. They're like the invisible girl. like, I feel invisible. it's like, no, honey, Echo, everyone sees you there.
00:21:55
Speaker
goes the Morbius. The snow guard is a new friend, other new friend, Valentina. You know what? I'll say it.
00:22:06
Speaker
Countess. Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. Yeah, I went there. Victoria Hand. Never really played her either. um But playing her in this deck, pretty cool. She's a fun card, yeah. So those are the three cards that I never ever play that are in this deck.
00:22:21
Speaker
um But the other cards are Zabu, Kate Bishop, Iron Patriot, Sebastian Shaw, Galactus, Scarlet Spider, Kahori, Wiccan, and Magneto. So there are two like this two juicy little Kahori sponges. You got Sebastian Shaw and Scarlet Spider, a card for whom I am always rooting, um but I don't often play. i don't even, you know.
00:22:47
Speaker
But yeah, I got four four drops in there, so Zabu made sense. Yeah. Again, mostly I'm playing against Voughts, but it's mostly just just stomping them. ah Feels pretty good. like This does feel like a pretty solid deck.
00:23:01
Speaker
It's relatively Mobius-proof, because we're not really trying to do like too much cost reduction stuff. We're not running Quinjet. We're not running Loki. I thought about running Loki, because ah speaking of cards that I literally never play, I was like, do I want to do i want to do all of them?
00:23:16
Speaker
Do I want to play all the unfamiliar ones? No, no, I decided not to. So like, you know, sure, you'll you'll you'll hurt for the Zabu discount and the Valentina thing, but an Iron Patriot. I guess, yeah, Mobius will still hurt this deck because that's just what he does. But Wiccan is Mobius proof and all that. and So, yeah, I found Kahori to work pretty well in it.
00:23:40
Speaker
um I took some screenshots of some absolutely phenomenally huge Sebastian Shaws. i was like, I won a TVA game with like a 420 or a 320 rather Sebastian Shaw. That's beautiful.
00:23:56
Speaker
Wow. ah some Some cool things happened. But even when nothing like silly is happening. Like the stats are pretty solid. It seems like, I don't know. i don't know how much card generation you have to run to like justify running Kohori in this deck. I've got snow guard Hawkeye, iron Patriot and Valentina. And that feels like plenty.
00:24:16
Speaker
Oh wow. So yeah, I'm Corey seems fine to me again. Mostly I've been playing against bots, but ah yeah, for the past 24 hours, I've mostly been crushing it with this deck.
00:24:28
Speaker
That's, that's my feeling.
00:24:32
Speaker
Rhi, I think, did you say you didn't get to play her yet? No, I have together. What I did put Devil Dino and Kohori and Dino. I'm like, this is what I know what I want to do.
00:24:44
Speaker
And then I was like, ah Auto Builder, give me the magic. And then I deleted Kohori and Devil Dino to see, like, would you replace them with these two? I don't trust you. And then I did.
00:24:55
Speaker
And I was like, all right, I'll give it try. I had so many cards. It's a lot of crossover with Ben, just a different direction. It's got Victoria Hand, but it's like Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, and Jet, but still Snow Guard. I do love Snow Guard. I miss playing her because, like,
00:25:13
Speaker
People never... I hated the Telegraph, but people never see it coming. I'm sure if you're like into a big tournament or something, you know where you're against... I mean, they're going to remember that, but... Average player has has no good blindness.
00:25:28
Speaker
Mirage. I am always wanting to play more Mirage. Not only is she so... Her variants... This is what pisses me off about Shaw's power being given to Shaw.
00:25:38
Speaker
It's like, woo! I made Mr. Pilgrim supergiant. Like, give me someone shiny and sparkly and cool, you know? like I want to, like, don't know. I'm sorry.
00:25:50
Speaker
Don't tell me you're little disappointed that it's like Sebastian Shaw about people that you're, like, juicing it. Not really. No? Okay. It's appropriate to his mutant power and stuff, and I don't know.
00:26:03
Speaker
This is the story of my life. We all feel this way, right? I would much rather pump up a cute card. That's that's for sure. okay yeah um okay yeah Or at least I would much rather play cards of characters that I like and I don't have any... I don't like Sebastian Shaw, but like as ah as a 90s kid, he was in a lot of X-Men comics and things. not saying that well.
00:26:28
Speaker
oh Yeah, you know, he's always... sipping brandy and being more important than other people wearing vests you know hanging out with other mutants who wore vests was very much his thing
00:26:45
Speaker
But then I tried Brandy and it's just like, I hate it, but I want to be a cool detective sipping Brandy. There's a few others. That's my dream for hard liquor. Okay, sorry. There's a few others you could try. um This also had Wiccan, sorry. This deck with Kahori and like Frigga. I was like, hells yeah. You know, like unexpected stuff like Iron Patriot and Hawkeye and stuff.
00:27:08
Speaker
But anyway, yeah. I'm excited try it. I'm sorry. Okay. I didn't, you know, we record this fairly quickly after the new card release. It's true. Yeah.
00:27:20
Speaker
Uh, it's just barely 24 hours. Um, this week, some weeks are different, but that's how it is this week. Um,
00:27:31
Speaker
Kori, I, this is, I just, you know, I'm going to be straight up honest. I ranked her best of the season. I thought she was going to be great. I think I fell for a little bit of best case scenario ah syndrome or whatever. Like, a you know, I was thinking about, i didn't build a whole deck around her. I was thinking about two card combos that are great. I was thinking about, well,
00:27:54
Speaker
She's Gwenpool or Galacta, except you can play her on turn six. And yes, she's limited to certain decks, whereas the other two are quite flexible. And so you know I would have told you Gwenpool and Galacta are better cards, but I still thought Kohori would be, you know, in that range of power buff girls.
00:28:09
Speaker
ah And people have been very disappointed by her. I don't think she's bad. I think it's the same thing as Captain Carter where where we've had a few seasons of busted cards and people expect a good card to like warp the meta and it doesn't have to do that to be a perfectly serviceable card.
00:28:28
Speaker
She may not be best of the season but she's she's good. She's fine. She's been out for like five minutes and people just want to like feel right about something. i don't know. Or like that also like they just want to like like jump on board to like an extreme position.
00:28:44
Speaker
Like, I don't know. I think that I think that you'll be vindicated in the end. i think Khori is a good card. That's what I think. yeah I have been posting my like preseason rankings. There's a few I've skipped, but I've been doing it for over a year.
00:28:59
Speaker
And this was the first time where I had two people within the first 12 hours, like respond on Twitter, like calling me out like, oh how are you feeling about that? Number one rank. Now it's not too late for you to lower her. I'm like, it hasn't even been day.
00:29:14
Speaker
Like chill. My goodness. Jeez. People are silly. Um, Yeah. i Anyway, i some people are are are high on her. You know, KM Best was also high on her and still enjoys her. I saw him post a deck today where he was having a 70% win rate with her. That seems pretty good.
00:29:34
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ah You know, <unk>s he's top 100. So yeah um famous seems enjoyer of bad cards. KM Best. Yes. Always making apologies for Cope. Yep. That's him.
00:29:47
Speaker
So this is a cycle that we see a lot where there's a card that comes out. Everyone's trying to play it in the best case killer combo thing. And and then it's not great there. And so everybody thinks the card's bad, but then somebody plays it in a moderate way or in a small package and it's turns out it's pretty good. and I think she's kind of like that.
00:30:08
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Um, ah That said, i've i the past 24 hours, I've only been playing her and absolutely silly stuff, trying to get you know gigantic shahs. It turns out, if you make your shah too big, people just retreat.
00:30:21
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But I do have you know several shahs that hit 20-plus power. um Gotta hide the size of your shah. And this is this is one downside she has versus Gwenpool, right? Gwenpool gives you hidden information, like Snap Equity, and Kahori doesn't have that. You don't get to choose where Kahori puts the power, and it's all right out there.
00:30:43
Speaker
ah hidden information about Kahori is that she's in your hand. Yeah, and so I think sometimes it may turn out the best way to play Kahori is on the last turn. Yeah. I know.
00:30:56
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I've only done silly stuff with her so far. ah One of the combos I was trying quite a lot what came from Wombat Combat. I did change up his deck a little bit. um But this is a dream where we play lots of ones to the board.
00:31:10
Speaker
and then on the last turn, we Falcon them up. We use Kohori. And then we play Bullseye. So like we have all these cards in our hand for Kohori. And then we send them all back out with Bullseye.
00:31:24
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And we can also activate Lasher if he's still around. You know, Lasher, also a card that enjoys getting hit by Kahori because he doubles every hit. i wanted to put Lasher in my deck. I could
Card Effectiveness and Game Balance
00:31:34
Speaker
not. I could not. Couldn't quite get there.
00:31:38
Speaker
I got Ajax. I haven't even played with him. don't Lasher's like... I think Lasher is... he There's no way he's not underplayed, right? Like, Lasher Galacta is like 2-10. I've been thinking about it harder. I think Lasher might be, like, intrinsically... Like, i don't I don't think it's, like, the meta's fault. Like, I don't think that this is a good card whose opportunity is not coming around. I think Lasher might not be a good card. That's what I think.
00:32:02
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Really? I kind of agree. I've played a decent amount of Lash, and for what you can get out of them you feel like you can do better things. Because if you write if you're going to try and like do Galactus stuff, well, holding him that long, usually at that point, it's just better to Scarlet Spider or something like that, right?
00:32:20
Speaker
And then if you're playing lee and you're him him, then you're usually not doing like a negative, you know, an Affliction deck.
00:32:30
Speaker
Yeah. So it's like, for then that slot becomes better for something that goes more with what you are doing. You know what I mean? That's what I've seen. He's not an engine card, and he... just he's bad.
00:32:43
Speaker
He like takes a lot of investment to hit the level of other two-cost scalers. And, like, think he just gets more return on the investment when you invest in, like, different kind of payoff cards like that.
00:32:55
Speaker
Like Scarlet Spider, as Rhi said. Yeah, I just... ask Like, this is a card that asks you to throw other cards' efforts behind it, and I just don't think it converts that into enough benefit, is my feeling.
00:33:11
Speaker
I honestly feel like he may even be better as something like an on reveal where you felt like you could play him last turn too. Oh, much, much. I would love to make a huge lasher in my hand and then play Yes, that's what I'm saying.
00:33:24
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Where he is at activate, he's really, really pretty niche where you're going to like find the intersection that there aren't a better card for that slot for what you're trying to do. You know, I think they could just make it an on reveal and it would be a very good card, but not too good.
00:33:40
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I know, this is how I felt about activate all along. Activate is a huge downside, for sure. I was so surprised, because like why would they introduce such a ah keyword that... like I assumed that like they wouldn't introduce it if it weren't, in many, if not most cases, like superior to on reveal. But like they just... they made They're like...
00:34:06
Speaker
Well, variety is good, right? And they're right. Variety is good. But like, it's just so strange that the variety they chose to add was bad on reveal. It is really powerful. It's just really telegraphed. But there are times where people symbiote. I mean, it's a situation where you can retreat. But like, it's just like they have the symbiote Spider-Man out. And you're like, well, I'm not going to beat the Galactus or whatever when they do it. Or, you know.
00:34:32
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but there are like i i get the telegraphed point and that's definitely part of it right like yes probably last year as an on reveal would be better but you know we look at morbius or goliath or like there are or angela there's like good two cost scalers that are face up on the board the whole time and we don't think although morbius and goliath don't have to be they can also be turn six champions yeah that's true It was just the promise of where you wanted to determine the turn it happened, like something with Black Swan, but it just ends up being, like, it just feels more limiting when you can. Yeah, I... Also, to shoot down the third example, Angela is kind of...
00:35:15
Speaker
right You don't like Angela right now, huh? But I remember Angela. Yes. I do see what you're saying. Angela's still good because Shadow King is just just actually garbage. For a while, I was like, Shadow King is underplayed, but like now anymore, I'm just kind of like... I've tried, and it's just like he's just so rarely useful.
00:35:41
Speaker
Especially with all the ongoing around right now. Right, and then it's just like... Yeah, this might not be the moment. Yeah. Yeah, but even surprising, because I'm like, everyone is playing buffing stuff and everything, and then... i don't know.
00:35:57
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i Like I said, I put him in some even in some ongoing decks of mine like, offensively, and he was just always a bad play. Swap him out. It's just so weird.
00:36:08
Speaker
Should be good. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, i i think you really, the ongoing thing, I think that a lot of the power on the board right now is less likely to be that, you know, Shadow King cancelable kind.
00:36:21
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I don't know. Yeah, I also lied. A lot of it's just big power. You know, you have your star brands and like all that nonsense out where it's just like, what's Shadow King doing against that? You're going to hit their Surtur, but you're going to lose to their other, you know, hoo-hoo-hoo.
00:36:35
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I'm glad you brought that up because I have been winning with Valk Plenty lately and she's in lot ways she's Shadow King but no because she does beat a Cole Obsidian I'm glad you brought that up because she has the ongoing problem but she does not have the problem with big guys which is she's kind of Shadow King and Chong at the same time need more Valk in my life I saw people recently, i think it was on Cozy's and Alex's podcast, but somebody in the comments was talking about making Falca 4, and I'm just like, I don't think you can. plant It can't be done. Yeah, she's not too good at 5-3, but she would be busted at four three I agree. I think they were talking about it on Snap Judgments recently. Maybe that's, I don't know.
00:37:19
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Captain Carter has that problem too, right? Where she's like, she's very hard to adjust and maybe you can't adjust her because if you did, would either just be too bad or too good The biggest bummer I found about her is she's, like, just, like, when you get shamed, it hurts.
00:37:39
Speaker
It usually hits both things you got in your back row and often her, and you're like, youch. Yeah. oh How often are you getting her to 10 plus power? Well, you know, I like to play me some Gwenpool and some Galacta and, you know.
00:37:55
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yeah It's been happening. Sometimes locations help you out. There's plenty of times you get giant, giant, giant Peggy Carter. Hot Nadavaleer on Wednesday.
00:38:08
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goreyspotlightfriends. um What are we going to do with this section when the snapbacks hit? Uh, Coal Obsidian and Hydra Bob.
00:38:18
Speaker
Uh, Coal's a 410. You can only play at a spot where you've got a one cost. Hydrobob's a 1-4 that moves when either player snaps it. and He moves at the end of the turn. um Don't see a lot of either right now, but but Sanctum's going to come back maybe next month.
00:38:36
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And Hydrobob, I loved Hydrobob in Sanctum, where you can snap almost every turn. Hydrobob is still pretty good in regular constructed and stuff.
00:38:47
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's still good. Yeah, I play Hydrobob a lot. A power. He's still way better than Martyr. Thumbs me. yeah Well, that move ability is like good.
00:39:02
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Yeah. there's something There are some locations where that you you win because you have Hydra Bob. Yep.
00:39:10
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Yeah, I think it's a good card. And yeah agreed.
OTA Changes and Game Impact
00:39:12
Speaker
ah onefour is a good place for him because the 1-5s, you know, like the Titania and Martyr are awkward. Yeah, they're 1-5s like with, I mean, sure, Titania, her downside is like not exactly a downside, but like it's kind of a downside. Like, you know, you really have to manage it.
00:39:32
Speaker
But like... Hydra Bob, you do have to manage him, but like that's an upside. like Essentially, like at its core, like you have the ability to move him. If you if you wait for your opponent to be the the first snapper or whatever, like you you really you can control... I don't know. I think that Hydra Bob is better than a vanilla oneour That's my feeling.
00:39:52
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I'd rather have Hydra Bob. And a vanilla 1-4 would be quite good and playable. so Yes. and That should tell you something.
00:40:02
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Cole, I don't see anymore now that Sam's shield is a zero cost, but he's got to still be good, right? Like, um maybe not Inserter anymore, but, don't know.
00:40:14
Speaker
The Thanos things? I don't know where Cole goes anymore, honestly. Thanos. I kind still see him around in that those kind of decks, but I agree, yeah. his His peak of power was when the shield was the one...
00:40:29
Speaker
yes He's really awkward because Surtr doesn't want to run one cost as far as I know. um And if you only have one one cost... Surtr wants to run Zabu sometimes.
00:40:43
Speaker
Yeah, but just one one cost is not enough for cold. So that's... a
00:40:51
Speaker
I mean, think about Wiccan decks as well. You know what i mean? There are times where it's like you're going to have a one. There's still plenty of Wiccan decks out there playing Quicksilver.
00:41:02
Speaker
I'm sure Colt today will be good again. you know um And I could be wrong about him not being good now. But, i yeah. It's 410. The downside is he's hard to get to the board. But like once he's there, he's he doesn't have downside. That's what I'm saying.
00:41:17
Speaker
There's plenty of decks that are already meeting that requirement. In which case, he's a good card to include. His biggest problem is that he doesn't do anything. That's that's all there is. If you like Quicksilver, he's great. And he's not the easiest 410 to play. What's wrong with raw power, Ben? Well, he's not the easiest 410 to play. And that's what's wrong with raw power in this case. There's other raw power available more readily. Also, we have cards like Galacta and Gwenpool and Kohori that can easily top 410.
00:41:47
Speaker
That's another thing to say about Kohori is like, even if you only have four cards in your hand, she's still a 410. I don't know what people expect from her for her to be good. Okay, we have an OTA this week.
00:42:01
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First up, Rocket and Groot losing a power. 2-3-2. They they kind of just were generically strong three cost card. This is true.
00:42:13
Speaker
i ahead, Ben. Oh, my feeling is that like... I don't know. I understand that Rocket and Groot has been like a very popular and powerful card.
00:42:25
Speaker
I honestly didn't think it was that big a problem. i um Gosh. i i mean i'm not like I don't think it's unfair that this terrible injustice has been done to Rocket and Groot or anything. But like was it really getting... I guess i guess it must have been.
00:42:40
Speaker
But yeah, I... I wasn't that offended by it, but this is fine. I don't, it it just sucks. Cause like after that, if you only proc it once, it's a three, four. And that's like real, not good. I don't know.
00:42:56
Speaker
But it moves, but it does. You're probably proccing it, you know, two three times. ah Like that's such a huge part of it.
00:43:06
Speaker
Like, you know what I, uh, The fact that it can both get power and move, and you're so also somewhat dictating where your opponent plays. I was playing this in a ton of my stuff. It was too good. It doesn't need to go with anything else.
00:43:22
Speaker
I'm always, always in my decks. I hate not including a way to get into a locked location of some sort. you know like oh There's something that moves. It can like repopulate in a different area. And then this is just the power to...
00:43:37
Speaker
Ding off, like, you know just the satisfaction you get when um you had that prio and you played it and they put like an Iron Man on top of it. It's a bad start for you.
00:43:49
Speaker
You're double negative two power. So um I sorry to just do that recently, which is why it is frustrating. Yeah. of it is still wafting off of me. Okay. So, yeah.
00:44:03
Speaker
I mean, so I can't disagree. i think it was it's just too good and it requires nothing. like It goes in everything. Yeah. ah I don't think it was like offensively good, but but maybe it's just that it was so clearly better than other threes.
00:44:22
Speaker
That I can kind of get on board with. like Yeah, it kind of was just... the best three. and And it requires no support of any kind. That's a very good point. It is just a freestanding... Yeah.
00:44:34
Speaker
If you're playing it as late as five, it's still good. You know, and you can still move it if that's what you need from it to win a lane. Now if you play it on five, you're probably not getting...
00:44:47
Speaker
It depends. Like, sometimes that's when people are dropping a bunch of their cards in a lane. You know what I mean? It's just, it's one of those, if you are playing, i am often playing to a spoil my opponent's good time.
00:45:01
Speaker
You know what I mean? Well, yeah. mean, like, this is a card that I play a lot. I'm just saying, like, I've never felt like I was... In comparison, for something that is a mover that I always want to include in my deck, it doesn't feel bad to play. It can still get more powerful if I'm playing it later, like on five.
00:45:18
Speaker
And then at six, when it's like, okay, don't want to play it then unless I really, you know, like had nothing... better whatever it's like this is a three cost slot it's taking up it doesn't feel as bad sitting in my hand is when there's nothing sadder than like when you're staring at a hand with a giant ass kitty pride in it and also like some giant ass other things and youre like i can't play you all then you're also very large and would like to be on the board you know don't have the energy to give you all i would like to okay yeah
00:45:50
Speaker
Passing on a kitty that you've invested in it is like a hard decision. But so sometimes it's the right one. Sometimes it's correct. This is my problem with how I buff things. is Sometimes I just end up with a handful of like, you know, and just way too good of cards. Anyway.
00:46:05
Speaker
Yeah, sorry. So I agree. I think Racket and Groot. I mean, you're not playing an old standard Groot next to Racket and Groot.
00:46:18
Speaker
yeah you You are, apparently. I don't know. anymore. Still playing a lot of Rocket and Groot. Still playing a lot Rocket and Groot.
00:46:29
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Modok and first Ghost Rider. These were together in the patch notes. They're shifting some of the power from the discard package. Modok's going from 5.8 to 5.7. First Ghost Rider goes from 2.5 2.6. first ghost writer goes from two five to two six
00:46:44
Speaker
i think it's funny because Ghost Rider was changed in the data mines from 2.6 to 2.5 right before it came out. like i Have some conviction! no for real. Stick to your guns.
00:46:56
Speaker
This is so good. because Sorry, were you about to... No, no, you go on. Okay, because I do play a lot of discard and MODOK goes pretty much in every single type of discard.
00:47:09
Speaker
the cerebras So Hades, Doug. the the hades doug Cerberus. Cerberus. Cerberus. There we go. Thank you. The three-headed dog. You know there's the meme where it's like two and like the doofy one?
00:47:23
Speaker
And if that's the discard like sub archetypes, like the goofy one is Helicarrier. We all know it. Okay. But it's it's a lot of fun though. But they all take MODOK.
00:47:33
Speaker
MODOK goes in everything. So like you always basically are like, yes, I would like to discard my whole hand. So, and you know... A farm is pretty good. So I think this good. And moving it to the first Ghost Rider, is like... been kind of a rough play for honestly. He's the opposite MODOK. He's very niche. Very few discard decks for him.
00:47:59
Speaker
So I think this is a good swap-a-roo of power. Yep, I like it. It really is wild. Like, MODOK, I can understand how they came up with 5-8, right? Like, discard your whole hand. That should be a huge downside. it's just like, there's so many cards that want to be discarded. It's power creep. He was 5-9 for a while, right I didn't imagine that, did I? What? Was he?
00:48:19
Speaker
I'll check on Snapfan for a second. I don't think so. What, MODOK? I think he's always been 5-8. Was he 5-9 for a minute? I feel like he was 5-9 at one point. That doesn't sound right. I feel like he, yeah.
00:48:30
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We'll know in just a second. They have a whole history here.
00:48:35
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Nope, always Okay. okay
00:48:39
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Well, he he's always been 5'9 in my heart. He still is. I knew that was coming. He still I'm not disappointed. um Two more cards that they packaged together and in in the report.
00:48:51
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Devil Dinosaur and Patriot. Both ah low series cards, getting a little buff. Devil Dinosaur timely with Kahori. I'm guessing this is one of the ones that's been on their list for a while, and then they saw like, oh, Kahori week might be a good week to do that.
00:49:05
Speaker
Yeah, I'm excited. I've been like, right, exactly. Because of Kahori, I've been wanting to play some more dino. As I've said, I love dino decks because it usually means you have a whole hand option of cards, which I love.
00:49:18
Speaker
The problem there's so many cards that gen cards now is you often, yeah it's hard to not get a hand that's not like too full of cards. You're like, too many. Let me draw. Yeah. But Patriot still feels so boring.
00:49:34
Speaker
Like, I don't know. I feel like, right? Like, if you're doing Patriot, you're, like, trying to mystique Ultron, right? like It's a very straightforward deck. Yeah.
00:49:45
Speaker
The last time I had fun was like an Inviswoman before Ultron was even buffed and you had Dazzler. And like, it was it was some real shenanigans happening. And now I'm just like, I'm sorry. It's like, we're all just like, we're glad Patriot is there so that there's always like a solid deck for like the low collection players. And it's like, I'm sorry. They, you know, I'm sorry.
00:50:08
Speaker
That's what you are, a Patriot. but like Yeah. Patriot's often been good at the high level too. No, that's the thing. i think this point of power is mostly decorative and the decks that were playing Patriot, and they needed to have a really good reason to play Patriot already and they still need to have a really good reason to play Patriot. And like in the, in the notes, they mentioned that like, Hey, he's been squeezed out of a lot of decks and ah yeah, he's going to stay squeezed out. The two is not going to put him back in places where he's disappeared.
00:50:41
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Um, Right, the fun, the deck had vanilla abomination in it. You know what I mean? It was fun. It had those to like fill in when you needed to join the lane.
00:50:53
Speaker
And you would never do that with Patriot anymore. It's fun with Doom or the White Tiger. There are fun things to do with Patriot that aren't Ultron. That's not what you do anymore. No. there's more fun to be had if you're doing White Tiger stuff.
00:51:12
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guess maybe with Ravonna. That's like the only way. You use Ravonna anymore. yeah Patriot, you're dead to me, I'm sorry. This might be a bad change. I'm kind of disappointed by that.
00:51:25
Speaker
Because Ravonna Patriot Mystique was like a whole deal. yeah um okay Patriot deck that I think is fun. It's not good. Patriot Sauron. You have to get Patriot out first.
00:51:38
Speaker
But then, all your Sauron hits, get the Patriot buff. Yeah, you know, I think you've mentioned that concept to me. I've never seen it actually put into practice. It's great!
00:51:48
Speaker
I've heard about it from you, Lauren. Who doesn't want a 412 Typhoid Mary? Like, it's awesome. Yeah. You can do it with just Enchantress. doesn't have to be so wrong. um Anyway, I'm being silly.
00:51:59
Speaker
1-9 Ebony Maw? Yes, please. Yum, yum, yum. yeah One more in the ota don't Don't play Sauron Patriot. It's fun, but you have to play those two cards in a certain order.
00:52:13
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um I've tried it before in the past. Wing from 3-4 3-5. Yeah. Does played anymore because this? No.
00:52:21
Speaker
yeah i like does it get played anymore because of this It needs it. It's an awkward card. Mostly the same, but like, hey, 3-5.
00:52:33
Speaker
now and Now, like, hey, it's stats. Now we're talking. it And it's fine. You don't have to do the Red Wing thing. It's fine. You played 3-5. You can sleep at night. It's cool. My favorite part of this is like, yeah, Red Wing exists.
00:52:47
Speaker
um yeah Check him out again. Because when you out and then you're bored because everyone's like playing him and that's no fun. and then you're on to being mad that you're mirrors in the next new card.
00:52:59
Speaker
and It's like, oh yeah, Red Wing's been out of the spotlight. And now everyone else will have had the same idea and it won't be fun again. Yeah, that's what happens the OTAs. the Then everybody tries out the new card.
00:53:11
Speaker
If you come back in like a week... People will have already moved on from Red Wing. but In like Snap, I'm such a, like, not like the other girls. Yeah, gotta be a hipster. else But really, nobody has fun playing Mirrors all the time. Like, that's not fun for anyone.
00:53:26
Speaker
I definitely have the most fun when I'm playing not only a deck of my own creation, but one that is A little unusual. little off the beaten path. I have the most fun staring into a mirror. mirrors a lot like if i If I end up playing a mirror, it'll be like a different kind of surfer deck or like a different kind of apocalypse discard deck or something.
00:53:49
Speaker
like That's about as close as I ever have about. a different flavor. Yeah, meta always feels best when it's just like we see different things. It's why they should nerf negative.
00:54:02
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Tired of seeing it.
00:54:04
Speaker
Hey, that might be relevant for my my homework assignment, but we're not there yet. On to our side quests. First up, weekly secret homework.
00:54:16
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It was Ben's week to
Secret Homework and Movie Recommendations
00:54:18
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assign. Ben, what was the homework this week? All right. This one was very inspired in my desire to not do a what-if-themed secret homework for once, because I feel like for some reason...
00:54:34
Speaker
For the past like four months, it's just been all what if all the time. ah Maybe that's because that's how long that's the most recent season. but you know I guess there are reasons why for the past four months, we're just talking about what if you know consistently.
00:54:50
Speaker
But I was like, no, we're not doing a what if themed secret homework. No, instead. having Having just ah given co-op game recommendations for the last secret homework, I'm going to solicit some recommendations. So what's a movie you wish I'd seen? That's how I said it in the episode.
00:55:11
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ah Not with a whole bunch of premeditation. Those are just the words that popped out. So that's the secret homework. What's a movie you wish I'd seen? You're first. What's a movie you wish you'd seen?
00:55:25
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Is it reverse for you? Is it a movie you wish we'd seen? Or is it a movie... Is it still a movie you wish you'd seen? i i thought about it. I thought about multiple interpretations.
00:55:35
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ah What could be done? i don't know. I was pretty much... I was waffling on it all the way up until, uh, still right now. Um, so I was thinking about movies that I'd seen that like, I don't know.
00:55:54
Speaker
I don't know. Like, should should i be recommending a movie that I haven't seen that I would like to see? Or like, should i be, i don't know. i don't There are a lot of movies I would like to see.
00:56:06
Speaker
I'd like to see that but new Bong Joon-ho film. I haven't seen it. It left the theater by my by my home. So I'll probably catch it on streaming.
00:56:16
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um But no, i guess I guess I'll recommend a ah film, ah Bottoms. You should see Bottoms. I think maybe it's streaming on Prime Video.
00:56:27
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i don't know if you've seen that. Oh, yeah, because I was looking at things on Prime and it was like recommended for you. Bottoms. Oh, of course I've seen this. Yes. I had double check. It was the movie i was thinking of. Of course I've seen this. Yes. Okay. Well, if you've both seen Bottoms, then have not. It's just only been recommended. Okay. Well, you should see it, but also Lauren, have you seen Dick's the musical?
00:56:51
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No, I haven't. Okay. That's on max. Uh, that's, that's what I'm recommending. yeah That's my assignment. I got it. Okay. Um, I'm assigning next week's homework.
00:57:02
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it's It's a lot, though, if if you want to tap. ah Like, if it's not to your taste, I bet it'll be to your taste. a But there I don't know. um Yeah, i don't know anything about You like Lauren extra super homework.
00:57:16
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There's a, um... It's a... weird I don't know. Have you seen the IT crowd? Yeah. Yes. My favorite episode... This is this is a show that I would show other people an episode in the middle when I sold them the show. And it was, I think it's season two, episode one, but the episode with Gay the Musical.
00:57:33
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Just endlessly hilarious, and that's what you've made me think of.
00:57:38
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I think you'll like That's what I think. I'm just reminiscing about the IT crowd. It's got fun songs. Such a good show. It's super not ah you like child appropriate or safe for work or whatever. So i don't know. don't and Don't watch it during your shift or whatever.
00:57:57
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Got it. Well, I work in the basement away from my TV. um Rhi, what movie do you wish Ben had seen? Okay, the two I picked were the two... Sorry, hopefully not too hard to find, because I picked them.
00:58:12
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They were courtesy Late Night Rhi. was a separate Rhi from the Rhi you see before you. And ah she very much desired to see these two movies at random points years ago.
00:58:26
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um like i wanted to see them so bad, and they weren't on anything streaming, so they're two movies I own on... google play store or whatever but everyone buys movies digitally or licenses them because we don't get to own anything anymore not even in reality everything is a subscription welcome to my boring dystopia yeah okay um so what i are the do and i've actually talked about these both to you and i think not actually on the podcast maybe but in our banter around except for the first one i think we actually did
00:58:58
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First one, also partially in honor of the late Val Kilmer, don't think should be news to anyone that's been out for a while, is Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. We've talked about it.
00:59:11
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right It's Robert Downey Jr. playing the one character I've only ever seen. I've only seen that in Marvel movies for Robert Downey Jr. and he's just that's just what he plays. Tropic Thunder is so good. you're right. I have seen Tropic Thunder.
00:59:27
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He looked a little different in that one. yeah i Yes, he did. I didn't remember right away. Okay. um But yeah, Val Kilmer plays a gay detective.
00:59:40
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Perry is very, very good. and It's just a real fun detective. I am such a sucker. I watched the TV show Wednesday lately and I had not. Okay, sorry. We're side tangenting. But like,
00:59:52
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I didn't think I would get into it my friend that's really into it is all into the ship of like Wednesday and her roommate. And I'm just like not a ship. i'm I'm firmly ground, dry ground.
01:00:04
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I did eventually have someone explain that the shipping does not. It's not about from relationship. It's not actually naval or boat related. But um if you also didn't know that. You're not putting these two characters into a box and having it delivered to different continent. I've had thought.
01:00:24
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Sure. and i'm boat to get Anyway, she's a detective and she's like a young feminist. and like um I was so into that show. okay It's a very fun show. There was actually just like this like real dry spell of fan fiction during COVID because of supply chain issues.
01:00:45
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No shipping. what Stop! I'm sure exactly the opposite is true.
01:00:55
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um my my child My child and her friends are very into shipping. They they have learned clever names for all the different possible ships in their fandom.
01:01:08
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I feel like sometimes that's all shippers do. I could be totally wrong, but I feel like a huge part of shipping is just coming up with the fun names. You don't actually care about the What if these people that we we like to imagine being in a relationship relationship were also fruits that were in a relationship?
01:01:23
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And then they draw pictures of them as fruits. This is like my understanding of the shipping world. Okay. So the other movie besides Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is the movie called the Ten. Yeah.
01:01:38
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um And it is a compilation of comedy sketches loosely and very irreverently based around ah the Ten Commandments. And it's like the, what, David Wayne, ah Michael Ian Black, Michael Showalter. It's that crowd of comedy from Stella, from The State. the State. um Yeah. All those old young millennial titles. So, yeah.
01:02:08
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You know, so it's a good time. ah those Those are my two. Brought to you by Late Night Reese. If you don't like them, was never me.
01:02:20
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I'm interested. i will I will endeavor to watch all of the recommendations this week. Also, I told Lauren she had to watch House of Flying Daggers. As much as I said hate romance, it turns out that, like...
01:02:35
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ah if you get to like fly across trees and fight with swords while you're doing it, and makes it cooler. mean That was so funny. yeah When you made that comment, and I did not did not go off on this at the time, but like I feel almost exactly the opposite of you. like I will be way more into a game or movie if there is a romance I am into. like That is something that i love.
01:02:57
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um although i will say i hate um a tv show that does the will they won't they and they stretch it out forever that drives me crazy but if you will they won't they me for like one season and then i get the payoff and they get to be happy together for the rest of it i love that like that's real life real life has a season worth of will they won't they like that that's fine but real life doesn't have seven seasons of what I find so satisfying in a story is when someone is like it's like there's no hold up because someone purposefully or accidentally withheld information for someone someone is like okay here's an emergency this is what's happening right now these are the people not to trust here's what's going on and everyone's like right that makes sense I've absorbed that and we have no ridiculous side nonsense to read in the story for that and then we move forward miscommunication for miscommunication sake to just yeah and then we don't have to have like a lot of scenes about how we miscommunicated and that ruined everything okay anyway no i'm still with you i'm 110 there yeah
01:04:03
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ah hit that yes Okay, my movies. ah for For those that don't know, which may include you too, I don't know. and i Actually, I'm sure it doesn't.
01:04:15
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I'm into animation. i always have been. Don't get me wrong, i can get into ah a live action movie, and there were a few on my short list that were live action, but honestly, always. just There's something magical about the medium of animation.
01:04:30
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I don't care what the genre is. ah love animation. One of our greatest inventions. Especially 2D animation. You know, 3D can do it right, but 2D is just... There's something intensely human about it that I love.
01:04:45
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And my first choice is Kiki's Delivery Service. This is my favorite movie, bar none. It's a Ghibli. i imagine lots of people have seen it, which is why I have it too queued up. But this is... um coming of age it's very like inside out before inside out and uh which is not to say it's anything to do with feelings or anything like that but it is like it's a lovely coming of age story and I think something that I love about Kiki's Delivery Service and My Neighbor Totoro and several other Ghibli movies is there is not a clear antagonist like the antagonist of Totoro is the mother's illness like
01:05:21
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that's That's really it. and And yet they can tell such a compelling human story. And and Kiki's Delivery Service, the antagonist, is kind of growing up. like It's lovely.
01:05:34
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I highly recommend it. Oh my gosh. There's board game called Broom Service that's basically like Kiki, the board game. Oh gosh.
01:05:45
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You should check it out. I love it. there's a There's a solo RPG that I, like a tabletop RPG that i kickstarted and I can't remember what it's called, but it's it's very Kiki's inspired. This is when you have to play with Kiki's.
01:06:01
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yeah Most games are. i think I think the concept of solo role-playing games is very fascinating. I haven't actually played one, even though I own a few. I have friends that do it all the time and enjoy it. Yeah, it's kind of it's I play video games. It's akin to, like, journaling. Like, it's...
01:06:17
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It still is like, you know, a creative flex and all that, but I don't know if collaborative storytelling anymore. It's something I would like to do, but never... It's always in the future somehow. My second pick is Wolf Children. This is an absolutely beautiful movie.
01:06:33
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um If you are a parent, it will guaranteed make you cry, but it is it might make you cry anyway. um It is the story of a woman who is raising two children ah who can transform into wolves.
01:06:48
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ah and And how do you deal with that? How do you deal with children who can transform into wolves? um And how are they gonna grow up Are they gonna grow up as as humans? Are they gonna grow up as wolves? Where can they do so safely without getting you know ah endangered themselves or causing danger to others? And it is...
01:07:10
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Anyway, a single mother is obviously very touching to me as, ah you know, I've been a single mother for like five years. a It's anyway, it is again, beautiful animation, a beautiful story. I highly recommend it to everybody because everybody has experiences with growing up.
01:07:29
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um Maybe it's a coming of age story too, but with a lot more of the um parental perspective involved. um And it is also just, it's not just sweet and heavy. It's also, it's very funny. Like the antics of a human mother trying to raise two wolf children is, it's humorous.
01:07:47
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So those are my recommendations. And now I'm wondering if for next week, if we should talk about some of these movies or if we should just assign homework and, and the movies can be background thing.
01:08:00
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I'd be happy to, to watch some of these movies and talk about them and stuff. and down straight I don't know. to I don't know whose homework turn it would be.
Episode Conclusion and Fun Discussions
01:08:10
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Would that be you, Lauren?
01:08:13
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It's mine. Do you have one that's burning a hole in your pocket? No, I mean, i've I've always got a list of some in in case I forget to prepare. um But I think we could just make the homework to be watching these movies and talk about them. And it's not very snappy, but that's okay. You're here for for us and our and our um chemistry, and we're just here to have fun.
01:08:32
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Yeah. And then I can assign the homework next week. It's a Delio. Great. I'll make sure that all of those movies are in the show notes or the YouTube description.
01:08:47
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a And in a place where you two can get them too. ah If you like what you heard, like comment, subscribe, review, Whatever, like do do the things, interact with us like a podcast. If you want to comment, you can do that on YouTube or Spotify.
01:09:02
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You can also come hang out in Discord with us where we have a handful of channels on the Snap Judgments League Discord. Instructions to come find us are in the show notes or video description. It's fun. It's called the speakeasy. It's like, it's a great place to be.
01:09:20
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We also have a channel dedicated to climbing, um you know, and climbing ladder. If you want some accountability when you're, when you're trying to ah climb rank to help you be more responsible with your snapping and retreating. Yeah.
01:09:35
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Yeah, we're part of the Snap Judgments Network. That's how we're on their Discord. um Where you can listen to other great shows like Snap Judgments, previously mentioned, ah from Pulse Glazer and Roy. They post on Saturdays and they always have guests.
01:09:54
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um Yeah, from often creators every now and then, just somebody from the community, but it is a lovely podcast. Oh, yeah. um So yeah, if you if you want to talk movies with us, Discord would be a great place.
01:10:08
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Or you can hear our thoughts next week, same snap time, same snap channel. Yay! I like the giggles in the middle of it.
01:10:21
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Okay. I realized something when I was talking to my friend Ruka earlier today is that our generation particularly would both love and abuse the shit out of a Groundhog Day situation.
01:10:34
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Like, it's always presented as a punishment. yeah. And pain. But, like, if we could just have a day... Like, fuck it. I don't care that my video game that I played would reset.
01:10:44
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There's a million tiny indie video games I can knock out a day that had been on my list. Yeah? How many movies you knock out? Right? There's so much. Like, it's like all of this stuff you don't have time for.
01:10:57
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So right after Secret Homework, when, you know, I could, like, I chose, like, two of the most, you know, like, the most...
01:11:11
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you know, not safe for work or whatever, not safe for pulling coffee or whatever. I chose the most Buckwild movies, but like i could have chosen Palm Springs, a great Groundhog Day movie. I've seen it! It's about a lot of things, but just that is is like, that's that's part of it. The the Andy Samberg character has has got himself a pretty sweet setup or so he has convinced himself.
01:11:36
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thought was trying to escape it. It's been a while since I've seen it. ah It takes a while for him to get there. He is not trying to escape it until he accidentally ah ropes Christine Milioti's character into the loopiness. And then she wants to get right And then he ah realizes that, oh you know, well, maybe just watch the movie. I don't know.
01:11:59
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I don't know. I'm not here to regurgitate the entire... but But yeah, yeah. Y'all see he's going. To Rhys' point, they're doing something very fun and different every day, and like she uses it to learn what like rocket science or quantum physics or something. like Yeah, she figures out how to get herself out of the time loop. Yeah, it's great movie. But we could keep fucking around forever. To learn all the languages. Yeah, I'm very sympathetic to that you know the the time enough at last kind of Twilight Zone thing, but like you know you step on your glasses and whole thing's...
01:12:33
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yeah I could watch enough anime to understand it again. You could... yeah You would never run out of stuff. With access to the internet now, you would never run out of stuff that you could do in one day. You you could entertain yourself with the the bread, the human culture and stuff. I shouldn't say never, because forever is forever.
01:12:53
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That is the nature of it. I used to want to live forever, and then I found a Wikipedia page on... And then you listened the Queen song. No, I don't know that one.
01:13:10
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You know? oh it's been a while since we've had
01:13:19
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Ah!
01:13:26
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or something haven't heard that song in a long I don't know when we're going to get in trouble but let's avoid that moment well then we should cut that part cut before that part no cut in the middle of it everyone will love that cut in the middle of it that would be good that would be funny well maybe was a Wikipedia article about like long term events in the universe and there was one that was like Niagara Falls will erode itself into non-existence. And that was the first time that I was like, I'm okay if I'm not around for that. Like, that's what? Like, and anyway. Really? that's when I always figured I could like doctor who it up. It's like, Hey, someone comes along, you get bored of them.
01:14:13
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That's fine. They'll die out. kind of fucked up let's be real doctor who has some damage from that should say the doctor um yll do y'all watch invincible yes well haven't seen the newest season but i saw the first two it's so good and then like there's this thing with the train and you're like too far why why i'm a person i have feelings okay sorry Well, anyway, there's there's a good episode in the most recent season.
01:14:44
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ah there there There is there isn an immortal character on Invincible. Yeah. Aptly called the Immortal. I figured that's who you were talking about. Yes. he He's got a good episode this season.
01:14:56
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I look forward to I'm like, i don't know, two or three episodes in. Yeah. yeah So anyway, that was when I decided I wanted to live to be 300 instead of forever.
01:15:08
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yeah You just set a lower, it yeah. I mean, I would take, i would take i don't know the exact number I would take. I'd take like 5,000 or something like that. like I would um would enjoy having that much time as long as I was in decent health.
01:15:20
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um Not forever, though. 300 felt like achievable. Achievable. Here's the thing. You don't have to live long enough for them to to get the human lifespan to 300. You just have to live long enough that they extend it to 150. And then by the time you're 150, maybe they've extended it to 175.
01:15:41
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one seventy Yeah, I was also thinking the same thing. You know, what just creeping. was thinking was this. The Sid Meier. 4X game, Alpha Centauri, that I talk about a lot.
01:15:55
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And ah one of the faction leaders. Like twice. there Well, I talk about it a lot. i don't I don't know. You're not always around when I talk about it, but I talk about it a lot. Or rather, I think about it a lot.
01:16:07
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But yeah, every time you like research a new technology or build a new kind of base facility or do a secret project, they're you know wonders of the world or whatever. ah You know, you get like a fun little quotation from In the Universe.
01:16:19
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And like the faction that's all about like economics and making mad money and stuff. they they've Their faction leader has like all the best quotes, in my opinion. But his his thought, like once you discover the fucking...
01:16:34
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immortality recipe thing whatever the technology is i forget what it's called um but his quote is i plan to live forever of course but barring that i'd settle for a couple thousand years even 500 would be pretty nice exactly that's always stuck with me he put it in a nutshell