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33: Are You Even a Wizard?
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For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- Weeks in Snap
- Captain Carter & Goliath
- Snap Packs
- Patch
- Secret Homework: Couch Co-op
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Mentioned Games:
- Moon Hunters
- (Boyfriend Dungeon)
- (Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime)
- Heave Ho
- Overcooked
- Towerfall: Ascension
- The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate
- (Castle Crashers)
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- Snap On This!! Theme by Ben
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Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 Intro / Our Week in Snap
- 0:18:43 Captain Carter
- 0:25:38 Goliath
- 0:34:40 Snap Packs
- 1:00:23 Patch Discussion
- 1:40:57 Secret Homework: Cooperative Games
- 1:54:41 Next Week's Secret Homework
- 1:59:26 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Setup
00:00:01
Speaker
This Snap on This. It's episode 33. I'm Lauren Whatevs, your host, here with my usual co-hosts. How was your week in Snap?
00:00:12
Speaker
And keep it snappy. Rhi.
00:00:16
Speaker
Hey, okay. um Let me try and get breathy here, because we're probably going to bit more ASMR-y.
Rhi's Snap Experience and Break
00:00:24
Speaker
Today's time to make better health weeks, so like...
00:00:29
Speaker
Lo-fi than synth pop whatever. But um this... So this week, actually, amazingly, I've been playing since the very day of Snap's ah public release into the App Store.
00:00:44
Speaker
And in all that time, i have not missed more, I think, than, like, two consecutive days off. And I decided this week to take a break for a while. Like...
00:00:58
Speaker
ah Like, it makes me, it's just like, it is time. It's like, I've played pretty much every day for a very long time. And I still love, like, the game and everything. But it's just like, ah, the meta.
00:01:12
Speaker
And I've just been, like, juggling some bowling balls. It's not like a lot, a lot of things, but it's like some bigger things. And I'm just... never been much of a juggler, more of a sequential, soft, sedate tosser of balls. feel that. immediately You're like the ball return thing that spits out one ball at a time.
00:01:37
Speaker
Correct. Yes. And so, yeah, so it's been a good time to just, you know what, like, just just take a break. And, i like, I'm honestly really sad that it's on, like, Captain Carter week.
00:01:52
Speaker
Because I love Captain Carter. Because when you think about wanting to lay down your burdens, it's like you want to do under the strong, unbreakable dome the Captain's shield held by the strong, ah soft but strong arm Peggy Carter. She really does walk that line.
00:02:20
Speaker
Right? Taller and braver and stronger and more beautiful than I could ever wish to be. and It's like when you get tired of trying to be brave and courageous and you just want to be a little bit in distress you know and protected. Yeah, save me, Peggy. like real.
00:02:39
Speaker
Right? That's the way to still do it and like still have feminism. Yeah. That's where we're at. But anyway, so I was like stoked. I know I gave her two stars, but it's like in a way that makes me more excited because I'm like maybe fewer people would be playing with her.
00:02:54
Speaker
i mean, maybe I was wrong about the two stars, but like, and it's just like I knew was going to go into that meta and was just going to be like mirrors and more like bullseye bullshit and like, I was just is like, no. You're not wrong. yeah No, I'm out.
00:03:12
Speaker
That's what hear. So, I've decided to just let it go. I've been trying to, like, get in and get it because, like, I bought the gold mask. So, like, I've been collecting that and, like, and stuff. But I'm waiting for the game to entice me back until I have. It almost did today because was like, okay, but what if I put Captain Carter in this and then I do this? And that could be fun.
00:03:34
Speaker
But, like... You know, it's got to try a little harder to win me back, to be honest. um So probably this podcast would do it, honestly. We'll probably talk about it. yeah um Yeah, take a break for a couple of days. So, you know, it's good for all of us sometimes. I know the world tells us that we need to go build around factories ah to create our own machines to 3D print our own bootstraps.
00:04:05
Speaker
To, you know, pull yourselves up and forever be, you know, the strongest statue that crumbled into Asmodeus. But, ah you know, it's okay to need support he if you needed to hear that out there every once in a while. Everybody does.
00:04:23
Speaker
With that, let's switch it on here. I'll give Lauren a
Benjamin's Introduction and Snap Insights
00:04:28
Speaker
break. Let's switch on over to our other regular co-host, Benjamin Roller.
00:04:35
Speaker
How was your week in Snap? Keep it as snappy as you'd like to. We're chill here. All right. Since we're so chill, I might keep it snappy. i I don't know if I would go so far as to say that I'll endeavor to do so. That sounds like some try hard stuff.
00:04:50
Speaker
And we're a chill vibes podcast this week. So, all right, let's talk about my weekend snap. you know, ah whatever level of briskness I'm feeling.
00:05:01
Speaker
Honestly, listener, i encourage you to manipulate the playback setting. You know, if you want to take it down to 0.75, really just stretch things out. That's fine. That's fine.
00:05:12
Speaker
Okay. So, and and my weekend snap. Step into my Sephora as I welcome you to a surprise edition of Cosmetics Corner. That's right. I managed to split a white crackle ink split on Ravonna. That's my first ink split since Mastery.
00:05:28
Speaker
I also happen to have made my first gold split since Mastery, albeit with a banana flare, a combination that I like to call Grodd split. Other than that... I like it.
00:05:43
Speaker
Other than that, other than that, I sure have been playing a lot of the Bazaar. Started playing the Bazaar. i mean, like, I've been playing some Snap. I have i have dabbled with Peggy and all that, but um there's not much... just I don't have very strong opinions about the meta, not because I haven't been playing any Snap, but I have been playing some Snap, but it's mostly been against the Robits.
00:06:02
Speaker
That's right. It's... Terminator, Rise of the Machines. um Oh my goodness. All these bots.
Bots and Gameplay Experience
00:06:10
Speaker
I mean, like, it's been this way for the past several seasons, but like, uh, dang, it's just so many, just so many. I've had the bizarre card game.
00:06:21
Speaker
What was that? I want to hear about the bizarre in a second. But I was just going to say, I've also had bot luck. And I've seen some people saying, like, once they get to the 80s, they're not seeing bots at all. And I'm like, I had a lot of bots all the way through the 90s.
00:06:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's sometimes been my experience. Like last season, i was like facing about half bots. It felt like like all the way. And I i haven't gotten into the 80s yet. I'm at like 77 78 or something. So Anyway, i think something's wrong with bots.
00:06:49
Speaker
They say nothing changed, but it's yeah it's just too weird. Wait, you haven't seen any bots, you've seen lots of bots, say? I've seen lots of bots, personally.
00:06:59
Speaker
Oh, that sounds great, though. I also saw tons, all the way to 100. But I've seen people saying they haven't seen any. Yeah, well, they're sending them to me. not heard the song, Coin Operated Boy?
00:07:13
Speaker
love that song. have. Amanda Palmer. have. but Give me a bat. Feed me cubes all day long. Okay, sorry. I want to hear. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well... and just i want to hear oh yeah um yeah to well
00:07:29
Speaker
I've been playing against tons of bots and it's not as much fun as playing against humans. That's all I'll say. um Sure, you can win most of the time against them or win enough of the time against them. And it does give me an opportunity to play some silly decks like the Peggy Carter deck that I will tell you about later.
00:07:46
Speaker
um But I just don't like playing bots as much as playing against humans. Honestly, even playing against the ghosts of humans. Segway. Boom. That's right. I'm talking about the Bizarre, a game that regularly, like, ah I mean, sure, you'll you'll have some PvE encounters, but most of the encounters that really matter.
00:08:08
Speaker
The ones that will lose you out of the game, get get you knocked out of a bizarre run are against humans. All right. Let me let me tell you what the bizarre is all about, because I did not know what the bizarre was all about because I refuse to watch video content. I only listen with my ear balls.
00:08:23
Speaker
um So the bizarre here's what's up with it. It's asynchronous PVP Slay the Spire with auto combat that is like akin to a deeper Hearthstone Battlegrounds or perhaps a more streamlined Backpack Battles.
00:08:36
Speaker
It's purely horizontal. Items come in small, medium, or large, taking up either one or three units of space. You start with
The Bizarre Game and Capitalism
00:08:43
Speaker
four units of space. As you scale upwards, it caps out at 10.
00:08:48
Speaker
um There are many hours of fun to be had with just the starter character alone. um She's great. She's cool. ah Her quips are garbage. the the The writing in this game is not very funny. It's not the selling point. Yeah, I gotta say. um Anywho, but she's she's a fun character to play. And it's free to play friendly enough that I unlocked a second character without making any purchases. And I am on track to unlock a third.
00:09:17
Speaker
However, oh well, I guess I'll get to that part in a second. There there is a however on this purchasing a second character thing. Okay. My biggest complaint with the Bazaar that it seems awfully horny for capitalism, even among games in this genre. all All these, like, resource management games, like, sometimes it just seems like, are you, are you, are you I don't know.
00:09:36
Speaker
so Sometimes it seems like they're either... They might be fetishizing capitalism or savagely indicting it, and you can't really tell. But anywho, with this game, they just seem horny for it.
00:09:47
Speaker
It's baked into the fluff and the gameplay. um and another Another thing, I also predict that the monetization will get greedier pretty quick. But that's actually like a separate concern from the the in-game horniness for capitalism.
00:10:00
Speaker
um Anyway, ah about that monetization, I was about to purchase my first ah character after the starter character. And then the ah i went to bed, and then I woke up, and it cost 100 currencies more than it did. it went up from 500 to 600.
00:10:17
Speaker
So, like, I don't know. Start playing soon. Unlock stuff now. I don't know. it but It's, like, I'm having so much fun playing it. It's, like, that that Snap honeymoon phase. I don't know y'all remember when you started playing Snap, but you just wanted to, like, learn all the stuff and see all the things and just, like, experience it all and, like, you know...
00:10:38
Speaker
Ludovico, your eyes open and just like just snap until you drap. you know So that's what I've been doing with the Bazaar a little bit. Anywho, I recommend giving it a go while it's still super fun and not shitty.
Snap Nostalgia and Player Skill
00:10:52
Speaker
ah Honestly, I'm enjoying it enough that like I could see myself sticking around and tolerating some amount of inshittification down the road. But like this seems like the best time to play this game. There will never be a time to play the Bazaar that is as good as right now.
00:11:07
Speaker
um Yeah, there are four characters, and they're all interesting and fun, and I can't wait to unlock the other two. Yeah. That was my early Bizarre Thoughts and Questions.
00:11:19
Speaker
Okay, this is more about bots. things that I reminded you Yes, because you were like, hey, remember when Snap was new and you you were super excited? I was like, hey, remember when didn't know what bots were before I learned?
00:11:31
Speaker
Because before even got and was reading stuff about it, you ran into bots, right? And I ah didn't know there were bots. And me and my friend who played, who very quickly ceased to play and is what drove my... ah My quest, like a small peasant from a tiny village out into the, you know, ending up in the big snap city, becoming a podcaster yourself. Anyway, okay.
00:11:54
Speaker
So I was just talking to my one friend, to figure out like, who are these people that are so easy to beat? How are they so whole bad at the game? And we're like, is it like just during certain times? And I'm like, oh, one day I called him like, oh, he's so dumb.
00:12:11
Speaker
It's children, obviously. It's just children playing the game. That's why they're so dumb. And then like once later, it's like, oh, but. And it's like, I don't know how that I've never said it to me.
00:12:23
Speaker
But it was literally the water cooler. Well, you know, the talk, the small talk of me and my friends. It was like, who are these people who are so bad at snacking?
00:12:34
Speaker
At the time, I totally did not realize I was playing bots. And you do until, like, what, rank 40 or something is your first human match? I believe so. It's a good way to get people into the game, honestly.
00:12:46
Speaker
Let them teach it. Let them feel smart. Like, i I watched my child start the game after I knew this, and I was not about to tell ah tell her that, you know that you you know, she's feeling so good about all of her wins. And I'm like, I'm not i'm not going to tell you you're beating bots.
00:13:00
Speaker
Oh, I feel bad. was like, oh, no, you don't understand. I'm a pro card gamer. Like, I've even played Android Netrun or something. Sorry if you thought, like, I wasn't going to pick this up and just be good at it.
00:13:12
Speaker
Sorry you ran into me, and here I was being condescending to fucking toaster. deserved it. I still do. right. I knew they were bots because I'd been playing a lot of Fortnite around the time that I started playing Marvel Snap. so i like i was expect like Bots are just so universal in ah you know casual Fortnite matches that like I knew that like I was being fed bots because that's what they do in Fortnite all the time. I had the same experience with Fortnite. My fiance tried it for the first time and got, you know, Battle Royale on her first time and felt so awesome. And I was like, I'm not going to tell you that you just beat 99 boss.
00:13:58
Speaker
Oh, but know I also, while I'm still in my weekend snap, I too have been, ah even though my, even before my attention was divided with the bizarre, I've been playing that game for like less than a week. Oh my gosh. I could talk about it for a long time. i I've just, I've been mainlining it hard um anyway.
00:14:16
Speaker
But ah what I was going to say is like, yeah, I've been skipping some weekend missions lately. Can't be bothered to play Agamotto. Just, I mean, like he's not bad. Like some people seem to think, but like, he's not my cup of tea.
00:14:28
Speaker
And I just, I don't need the 150 gold that bad that I'm going to be playing cards. I don't like, like, it's not, not, not my life. Nope. as ah As I've mentioned a couple times now, there is but a finite amount of Benjamin roller to go around.
00:14:43
Speaker
um Got to, got to save it for the good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Go off Lauren. go off lauren Hey, I was this like, I've taken breaks from snap to I've never taken like a full day off. But like, you know, when I'm breaking from snap, it's like I'm playing once a day, knocking out six missions, and then I'm done.
00:15:01
Speaker
That sort of thing. um I don't know. I've probably missed a weekend mission or two. Few missions on rollover, like, you know, getting new missions when I'm already at six has probably happened a few times.
00:15:14
Speaker
But mostly I am like, you know, totally hooked in. And it's like, that's, that's what they want. That's why it's designed like this. It has so much of that, like mobile free to game, free to play. dna in it it's of course like psychologically what they want you to do they want you to feel hooked and like you can't stop it and that's why i think like you know whether it's just not a fun meta or you're getting tilted easily or whatever's going on like i think taking a step back is great and it doesn't mean that you don't like the game it just means you're you know you're taking some control um this past conquest was the first one that i did not get the conquest variant and i didn't even realize that until the season rolled over and i was like oh yeah i also missed debris yep
00:15:49
Speaker
And I'm like, that was one I might have actually used, but... It was a good one, too, yeah. You missed the debris variant? Oh, I did get that. Oh, okay. I got it for this. Now that I've missed one, I'm like, well... just I'll only go for the ones I really like, I guess.
00:16:06
Speaker
um Anyway, my week was Snap Packs. We got, you know, and we'll talk about them a little bit more later, but we got announcement of the new game economy coming. And of course, that's kind of my shtick.
00:16:21
Speaker
Whether I like it or not, I like it. um That's what I've ended up, you know, making like the main thing I write about on Snap Zone or on Twitter is economy stuff with the game. And um so, yeah, I did like a big deep dive on comparing spotlights to snap packs and seeing what we think about them so far there's a lot we don't know like the prices of them um but i predicted them and i predicted what the goodies are in snap packs and all that like go read my article on snap zone if you're interested it's good um
00:16:52
Speaker
That was my main... Yes. that Yes. I agree. Read it. say we are i appreciate it. it's It's a little lengthy as my articles tend to be. Quite frankly, if I had more time, it might might be shorter, but I already put tons of hours into this. like You, the reader, can spend... laurens like That's what Lauren does. is She works for 50 hours and writes 10 million words, and then with whatever time she has left, she shortens as much Yep, I'm a sculptor.
00:17:23
Speaker
um So anyway, it came in just under 5,000 words. um
00:17:30
Speaker
and But if you read it, it'll save you time when my ultimate article comes out later, covering everything about them once we have more details. ah The other thing is... I meant that in a good way if it wasn't clear, Lauren.
00:17:42
Speaker
You're always an A+. plus okay I know I can be very wordy, um but but I think most of my stuff is good. um I hit
Lauren's Snap Achievements and Strategy Discussion
00:17:52
Speaker
infinite. I wasn't really planning on rushing it, but it was just I was just having an easy climb.
00:17:57
Speaker
I was using standard ongoing stuff up to like 95. And then when things started to slow down, I switched to negative and had a super quick ah finish. And... I want to be like sensitive to the fact that not everybody has that experience, whether it is you don't have enough time to play the game or you aren't having the bot luck that I'm having. like I'm seeing friends who are who are stuck in the 80s and I feel for them. like I've had those seasons where you're plateauing and things are going slow and you're not facing any bots and it's like, what's going on?
00:18:32
Speaker
um Or I've even seen some people say that they're facing more challenging bots. And I'm like, every single bot that I played through the game, they could have one and they didn't.
00:18:42
Speaker
Anyway. Should we talk about this week's cards?
00:18:47
Speaker
Yeah. I'd love to. I'm a big fan of, I like both of them. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I need some apology for for Goliath. But we'll start off with Captain Carter, our Season Pass card. 4-3, ongoing.
00:19:01
Speaker
Add this card's power to your back row cards here. Doesn't add to itself. We all got her. Mm-hmm. What are your thoughts? She works. She does what she says she does.
00:19:15
Speaker
I know that there's been much discussion around the community. The echoes have reached me that some people are disappointed that she doesn't work.
00:19:26
Speaker
with Cap's shield that Sam Wilson has, ah she doesn't work with it? Oh, come on. ah that That card is very good. Captain Carter goes very well with Sam Wilson. It doesn't matter that like you can't get the buff from moving the shield. Being able to move the shield... like it Moving the shield is independently a very good thing to do Cap's shield.
00:19:49
Speaker
Captain Carter, even though she doesn't get plus two power when it moves to her location, but like moving it away from her location. Ooh, that's, that's, that's what's up. Ooh, moving it onto her location. and like, yeah, theses like I, I've had some games where like, it looks like, Oh, she's in the back row. You're not optimizing that, that captain Carter, but then like, Oh, you scoot it.
00:20:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. She, she works with cap shield. Okay. That's, that's all I'm saying about that. but Yeah, that's all I really want to and do with her is put her with, you know, ah Captain America, sam Wilson, and Captain America, Steve Rogers.
00:20:26
Speaker
So they call him, like, thank you, Captain. No, you, Captain. No, you, first, Captain. At least that's what I'll say to myself when play them. It'll be fun. Pretty flavorful. Right, but then, you it'll work out.
00:20:40
Speaker
you want to hear about
00:20:43
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Sure. All right. Is it interesting? Yeah, it's got both of the new cards in it. And it's it's moderately interesting. It started out a little less interesting. The first version of this deck had like Squirrel Girl and Blue Marble in it.
00:20:58
Speaker
And, you know, that version of the deck worked just fine. Again, like, it's hard to tell what's good because I'm just facing a lot of bots and then like some humans and it's fine.
00:21:10
Speaker
um So the deck, I called it Goliath Online. That's a really shallow StarCraft cut. oh yeah That's what Goliaths say.
00:21:20
Speaker
They say Goliath Online. um Anyway, it's got Howard the Duck. Originally, I had Ant-Man here, but I decided I wanted to get a little wild with it, right? You know, like, if you're playing against bots, you might as well, right?
00:21:31
Speaker
Have some fun. Live a little. Howard the Duck. Zabu. Goliath. Hawkeye Kate Bishop. Sam Wilson, Captain America. Mr. Fantastic.
00:21:42
Speaker
Captain America, that is the Steve Rogers a traditional recipe. Then we got Captain Carter, the least traditional recipe, almost otherworldly even. um Then we got Iron Lad, you know the one.
00:21:56
Speaker
Then... I got Wiccan up in here. I had Jubilee for a minute because I was trying to figure out ways to like make that cute with Captain Carter. Because like it seems like, couldn't Jubilee be cute with Captain Carter? Throw two things into the back row?
00:22:09
Speaker
The thing is, Jubilee is just like... I wish she was better. She's a fun character that has a card that I don't get to play very much. um But anywho, instead I've got Wiccan.
00:22:20
Speaker
I've got Wiccan in the spot where Jubilee used to live. I've played a couple games with it so far, and it feels right. It feels good. It feels fun. Then I got Iron Man. I got Spectrum. Those are the 12 cards. Howard, Zabu, Goliath, Hawkeye, Sam, Fantastic, Steve, Peggy, Iron Lad, Wiccan, Iron Man, Spectrum.
00:22:39
Speaker
That's 12. Yeah. ands ah I would say that is a unique take on a Spectrum deck.
00:22:46
Speaker
Mine was... I did make my own, but it was much less interesting. Yeah.
00:22:53
Speaker
Well... yeah um I've seen a lot of mixed takes on on Peggy. um In fact, mostly negative ones. And I think the problem is we've just had a streak from, like, what, October to February. We're all very, very strong game-defining, like, meta-defining season pass cards. Agamotto was good, too, but not on the level of the previous five.
00:23:17
Speaker
And I don't know. I think... i think I don't know that every season pass card needs to be metadefining. um Yeah. I think it would be better if they weren't.
00:23:28
Speaker
Yeah. I think I want to see more that are ah niche good instead of generically good and a little targeted. And I think Captain Carter delivers there. Yeah. Absolutely. She kind does exactly what I expected. The four is a little awkward, but if you buff she gives out a lot of power. Mm-hmm.
00:23:51
Speaker
It's like not, I mean, it's not hard to do like between locations that give power and like just, you know, your, your Steve's and your Galactus and your whatever is that like might just give her two or three, you know, you're that like, that's, that's six or nine as it actually, you know, manifests at the end.
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah. Galactus with her has been my favorite so far as far as buffing her. um I also have really enjoyed move cards because you get to do that surprise element where you're rearranging like, oh, this is actually ah she's actually in the front row and then I'm going to move in something afterwards and that's going to take the back row power.
00:24:27
Speaker
um I think it's worth noting real quick, she can be in the back row. She just only buffs the other card. And that is still worth doing sometimes. A lot of the time. Yeah. Especially if it's like Iron Man or something.
00:24:41
Speaker
I guess maybe not a lot of the time, like all the time, but like maybe depending on your deck a lot of the time.
00:24:48
Speaker
I mean, you're doubling like the Galacta buff or the Elsa buff or, you know, like there are definitely use cases for it. I still haven't tried her in Surfer, but I really want to.
00:24:59
Speaker
I just, you know, haven't. I would like to test it against humans preferably. So yeah probably waste so a lot of time. I've seen a lot of takes that like, oh, she would be way better at three, but should be busted. Yeah.
00:25:12
Speaker
yeah i mean, you can make it like three, two or something, but you can't do that because of surfer. Right. Yeah. like But also it makes it easier to get her into the front row. And like, if it were easier to get her under the front row, she'd be a problem.
00:25:24
Speaker
I like that. She's at four where, where it's just painful enough. Just awkward enough. You're going to get her on three. You have to pay for it. You have to do a Psylocke or a Zabu or whatever. um I guess that's it. Those two.
00:25:36
Speaker
easy
00:25:39
Speaker
Goliath. 2-1 ongoing, plus one power for each other ongoing card you have in play. I got him with one key, and then I spent three more keys because I really wanted the new Gwenpool. Oh, I wanted two, but I didn't spend extra for her.
00:25:59
Speaker
Well, I had the best of all worlds and had a four-key week in pursuit of Goliath, and I got the Gwenpool. um She's great.
00:26:10
Speaker
I already had the the ink split unlocked, so and that's happened to her. I and took out all the wonderful color. Just ruining cards. Why would you do that? It's a beautiful Goody Hidu art.
00:26:23
Speaker
a yeah It's okay. There's going to be a lot of good Gwen pulls, though. like like I love this one. I'm surprised there's not more.
00:26:34
Speaker
um While we're speaking of Gwenpool, just real quick, I i wanted to highlight... so I saw somebody talking about ah trying to come up with a ah name for Gwenpool, Kahori, and Galacta.
00:26:47
Speaker
And somebody started with Powerpuff Girls. And then somebody was like, the Powerbuff Girls. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's that's too good. The Powerpuff Girls, right? They all buff power. like That's what they do.
00:26:58
Speaker
um So anyway, those are the Powerbuff Girls. i love I love those cards, and I'm very excited for Kahori. Um, Ray, did you get Goliath? Oh, they have a pet cat.
00:27:09
Speaker
All Um, yes, i did. ah two keys for me. So I haven't even played a man because I know it's just going to be like ongoing mirrors and fucking super scroll and enchantress and rogue. And I just, can't get myself to do it. But, um, uh, I, I kind want to,
00:27:29
Speaker
It really makes me want to see if I can, like, make a Ravonna non-negative deck, which I think I've already talked about. That's where I'm going to start with him. That's what I've been playing him in. Yeah?
00:27:39
Speaker
Oh, really? Did you? tell. Ravonna, Goliath, Iron Man, Mystique. Like, there's enough cards there to, you know... Yeah. Is there anybody else?
00:27:50
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, 1-1 Goliath is fine. And the other thing that's fun is you have Moonstone in there. And then you can Moonstone, you know, oh, Fantastic is also Ravonna target. And then if you Moonstone Ravonna, they all get cheaper. Like, it's been good and fun.
00:28:07
Speaker
um Oh, I should credit. You do get a vulnerable column if you don't have a Cosmo to put there. If they can just, like, Enchantress your whole... Yeah, you need like a Cosmo or a Lyath or Jug. or like You need something to protect against Enchantress. These decks are very vulnerable.
00:28:25
Speaker
Lauren, you had a thing you were going to say. were you Was that the thing you were going to say? Because I also had a thing I was going to say. i was got I wanted to credit Powerbuff Girls to to Rez Snapper and i think one of his viewers because I think he's a listener and so I don't just want to brush past that. Sorry, Rez. Oh, good.
00:28:42
Speaker
Yeah, we have the best listeners. I'm not surprised that our listeners come up with the, they coin the best terms. Yeah, of course.
Card Discussions: Goliath, Doom 2099, and More
00:28:48
Speaker
The Powerbuff Girls brought to you by Rez Snapper.
00:28:54
Speaker
There you go. Rose snapper is a good egg. Yeah, we can go on and talk about Goliath again. Okay, one thing about Goliath, you know, i have had this thought that sometimes intruded into my mind that, like, is this just one of those goddamn Doom 2099 cards?
00:29:11
Speaker
Is this just going go in Doom 2099? And Safety Blade says yes. He says that deck is very good. Okay. Just wanted to get that of the way. And now I will banish it once again from my mind because I...
00:29:25
Speaker
I've got Doom 2099 pinned in my shop because like I was tempted to try my own hand at that idea, but I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I don't think I'm going to the dark side just yet. i got better things to do.
00:29:38
Speaker
Is the dark side? Is there a lot of 99 in the meta right now No, but like in the battle lands, once, once, once you're, once you're troubled, like I didn't like the design of the card, like before it came out and then like the stuff it did, I didn't like, you know, like I haven't liked the role that it is played, but also I'm like sort of conceptually opposed to it because doom 2099 is Dr. Doom. And I hate that symbiote Spider-Man shit when they, you know, give you the same character over and over. We'll get to talk about that more later. Yeah, we will. Yeah, we will. Ooh, baby.
00:30:13
Speaker
So yeah, I've i've always got, like, I've been rooting against so Doom 2099 since I read that his name was in the data mines. And I remembered the thing from the Spider-Man Ultimate Guide that I used for Spider-Lore from 2004. It's coming back, folks. You haven't heard the last of it. Okay.
00:30:31
Speaker
Okay. I want to, I just, I need to give Goliath a small apology. I went hard on him. I put him fifth out of six cards for the season. He's a small scaler.
00:30:42
Speaker
And he certainly some of that is my subjective. I don't like boring cards. Like he's like a speed, like good, but not very fun. Here's the thing. I think all six cards this season are good. Fifth and sixth place, Goliath and Infinity Ultron. I still think they're down there, but I think they're good cards, even though they're down there.
00:30:59
Speaker
um But here's the thing. I put Goliath low because he's so narrow, right? He's either going in Spectrum or Doom 2099, which is often also Spectrum. And that's it. He needs to have a ton of ongoing cards to be worth playing.
00:31:13
Speaker
And he's very good in that. He is best in slot, but that's a narrow, narrow spot. And I didn't... This is where the small apology comes in, because mostly I think I put him in the right place. But like the question was, is he good enough to elevate ongoing decks, spectrum decks, to like A tier, right? To be like meta level.
00:31:31
Speaker
And i think he's slightly better at that than I expected. But still mostly, I think like, you know, Enchantress eats that deck alive. Yeah, I think Spectrum is not, I think that Spectrum is sometimes the problem with Spectrum decks. Like, it's just not a good enough reward for the, you know, the commitment. I've seen people starting to cut her. Yeah.
00:31:52
Speaker
But this is part of what I like about Goliath is he's starting to differentiate. Ongoing decks used to mean spectrum decks, like pretty much, you know, like that was what an ongoing deck was.
00:32:03
Speaker
But now because we have Moonstone and Captain Carrier, starting to mean that you can like, you know, Sam Wilson, youre you can get some different angles in an ongoing deck that isn't necessarily a spectrum.
00:32:16
Speaker
You can pursue different rewards. That's good for ongoing as genre, as an archetype. I agree. There should be more than one way. and Yeah, I always love expanding archetypes into sub-genres. There's another Skywalker. okay That is good.
00:32:31
Speaker
um Spotlight friends this week, Cersei and Gwenpool. Cersei's one of my favorite cards in the game, although I don't think that is widely held that she's a very good card. Oh, she's great.
00:32:43
Speaker
like She generates a lot of value. i don't know. I think Cersei's great. You are rolling the dice, which is uncomfortable, right? Every now and then I'm playing a Cersei and something turns into death log.
00:32:55
Speaker
you're just going to be getting so far ahead if you're like, you know, transforming the void or whatever, you know, evolving things. It's, it's good in Hearthstone. It's good here. That's what I say. I win a lot of lanes by transforming magic and void, basically. Like she's, she's a great card and she's extremely fun. She, I think is my favorite card in the game as far as,
00:33:15
Speaker
Sorry. She's my second... She's the most fun. Not Valkyrie. Valkyrie is actually not... Legion is number one. I think Legion is just the most fun card. When pull off a Legion scam... You feel so good.
00:33:28
Speaker
um Rolling a dice with Cersei and getting big hits and surprising somebody with all of a sudden you went plus 25 power. Love that. love that Making bad lane good lane. Yeah, I like that.
00:33:39
Speaker
Love, love, love. And you know that it it is very Valkish and Cannonball-ish, which are also cards that I love. Gwenpool's just universally good. Like, if you missed her, this is a good week to go in. One champion of the five cost cards.
00:33:54
Speaker
I know. I say I don't like big cards, but there's three big... Oh, four with Legion. A bunch of five swingy fives that I love. It's okay to like big cards.
00:34:05
Speaker
Fives can be interesting. um it's It's worth noting most of those fives I like to play out in the last turn. So don't know. Maybe a setup five is what I don't like. Uh, okay. Not good.
00:34:18
Speaker
not good fives on five i don't know fives on five yeah they're i mean there's some of them they're like sarah jane those are fine um yeah blue marvel sometimes but yeah they're generally i don't like a five on five um they lose a lot of surprise they they lose all their surprise um Okay.
00:34:42
Speaker
Snap packs, the new economy system. I don't know how much you you two want to talk about this, but essentially... I'd love to hear it from you. Okay. I mean, most of the stuff's in the article.
00:34:54
Speaker
Go read my article. You learned the article.
Snap Packs and Game Economy
00:34:58
Speaker
everywhere they are Everywhere they are in the entire game, keys are being replaced by 3,000 tokens. That's albums, that's the collection track that's in your collection. If you've got a hoard of keys, congratulations, you now have a giant hoard of tokens.
00:35:08
Speaker
Um... Everything's going to the token shop. And you can buy cards at discount in exchange for... you have to roll the dice. You don't get to choose which card you get. You choose out of a pack...
00:35:21
Speaker
And then you'll get one of those cards and a couple of random goodies for a discounted price. um I expect like the, ah the series five price to be in the 5,000 to 5,500 range, you know? also So we're talking about like a one 12th to one sixth discount.
00:35:40
Speaker
If you're somebody who keeps up with like your collection, then I think it's, it's great. Like you just get cheaper cards by buying packs. Um, And I think it's also really good. shop will still be there with the random.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah, you can just buy the new card outright. Yeah, or the random. With the rolling one yeah that you can pin and all that. All of the token-related things that are current, like all the ways you can buy cards with tokens right now, you can still buy cards with tokens like once snap packs are introduced.
00:36:12
Speaker
Yeah. So I think for a lot of players, it's good. I think for veteran players, it's good. Like worst case scenario, if you hate the RNG of a snap pack, you could still just buy every new release app that you're interested in at full price.
00:36:26
Speaker
And now it costs two keys on average instead of two and a half keys on average. Which is the average on a one-target spotlight week, right? But like this is where I worry about SnapPaks breaking down. is like Spotlights are extremely generous on two and three-target weeks.
00:36:44
Speaker
And they talk about how they're trying to make it easier for new players and returning players, but I'm like, I would be really surprised if SnapPaks can compete with the three-target. you know With the price, a new player, almost every single key they spend gets them a new card.
00:36:59
Speaker
I really doubt that they're going to get Series 5 cards down to 3,000 tokens, you know? but If you're also, you know, it takes a while to accumulate keys. And, I mean, right aren't they offering, the older the cards get, like, the cheaper the packs are. Like, they're separating out, right, even into, like, newer?
00:37:19
Speaker
There's two tiers. There's, like, this season and the previous season. or two seasons back for Series 4. And then everything older is in an even cheaper pack. Yeah.
00:37:32
Speaker
So this one's a little better for two players. I really like this one, and I'm hoping this will actually... feel like the spotlight variants won while disappointing us all. When they started, it was like, yeah, spotlight variants. They're so good. Devolved into where it's just like a joke that it's like, how is it? This is what you consider...
00:37:52
Speaker
and It's just like, yeah, whatever they can pull together, which means they can't get, which means they're not releasing more into the general, more getting locked into these special things because they already need them for bundles. They need them for all this.
00:38:05
Speaker
So when they need them for spotlights, it's like more that are ah just more expensive variants now. Yeah. and they won't be around again for a while. So it's like, this should free them up to like, you know, for us all to be able to get more variants separately from being mixed in with the card acquisition system.
00:38:26
Speaker
And I'm fine. Like I said, I was getting very close to collection complete. And then like Spotlight's actually kind of wrecked that. And since I'm fine getting random ones for a cheaper cost, like...
00:38:40
Speaker
yeah this is This is a win for me. and like it. I was excited about Spotlights, but they couldn't fulfill their promise. like Right? Part of it was the guarantee that Spotlights were going to be worthwhile and not just what they could manage to pull together in time.
00:38:56
Speaker
ah You know? There's kind of this like trade-off on agency where it's like with the... With spotlights, if you roll a if you roll the fourth slot, it's completely random. You have no agency on that at all.
00:39:10
Speaker
And then, like, if you're pulling from a snap pack, you get to choose which pack you're pulling from. But that might have, depending on how big your collection is, that might have 10 cards, 20 cards. Maybe it only has three. Like...
00:39:21
Speaker
still get the discount even if you're only missing one card. really hope there's an easy way to exactly which cards might be in your snap pack. Yeah, tap on the back. That's what it's your collection. need be able to see exactly what you might get out of it.
00:39:34
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really hoping they do that. think I don't have an older one and then click it. Don't make me go to some third-party website to like do a little checklist. Don't make me... This mushes the randomization factored out because you're looking... I am now the only co-host has never rolled a card from Spotlights. I've opened plenty of weeks. I've never once. I've always you know gotten the now the tokens. Formerly other stuff like variants and whatever. Oh my
00:40:06
Speaker
And now it's like you're guaranteed something. So it takes that high – sure, it lowers the high end of luck range, but it brings up the bottom. And as a bit of a bottom feeder myself, you know lower that floor. I got to tank it. I agree. As we say in MMA.
00:40:23
Speaker
Decreased barriers. Yeah, I think decreased variance is a good thing. like We talk about the averages for spotlights, but like the players who are on the extreme of bad spotlight ah like luck, it's like it's really far off from the average.
00:40:38
Speaker
yeah I had a very long stretch of bad luck in like late 2023 and early 2024, and it just like oh it was it was just week after week of four keys, and I i had to skip so many cards.
00:40:50
Speaker
Yeah, you can just go bankrupt super fast, and then you just... you're skipping for weeks on end until you have enough keys to, to feel confident, you know, to safely be rolling again. um Right.
00:41:02
Speaker
One other bonus out of this for me is I know part of and what part of people are worried because it's like, yes, I do think this is more cards faster. And the flip side is they're planning on releasing, you you know, they've already started releasing even more cards.
00:41:15
Speaker
And I get that means it does make it harder to get collection complete. And some people care more about being collection complete than they care about the size of the card pool. You know, like they'd rather it stayed small if it meant that they could own all of the things. Yeah.
00:41:28
Speaker
and have more things they might not have, even if they overall have more cards. You know what i mean? That's what I'm saying. The difference to them isn't like, not the actual number of cards I have, but the number of cards I could have in comparison with the number of cards I could have, you know, um is what it is for a lot
Digital Games and Impermanence
00:41:43
Speaker
of people. But I like this too, because the more cards, I'm hoping it helps the big problem I have with getting tired of mirrors and small metas where I'm seeing the same decks.
00:41:54
Speaker
And it's like if there's just a ton of cards getting thrown in all the time, maybe that will help with that. You know what I mean? just wonder if they can be trusted to implement that. Like, do you think, do you think, like, we've already seen how buggy things are and like how cards don't always work the way they're supposed to work.
00:42:15
Speaker
And like, do we think that, putting out twice as many cards is going to like make them better at putting out cards? like Are they going to get twice as good at making cards that function correctly? Because I kind of think they probably won't.
00:42:31
Speaker
I kind of think they're going to overwork themselves and spread themselves too thin. And like the cards are. yeah give them a monthly allowance. And if they're not spending that to make themselves pretty for us and instead are just giving it to, you know, their corpo Scrooge McDuck daddies to throw in their like shame piles of wealth, then that's their fault.
00:42:52
Speaker
You know what i mean? They have enough money, and if they want to make those promises and they're going to fail on them, then that's on them. and say I know.
00:43:04
Speaker
i would I just want the game to work, is the thing. And it feels like the game doesn't work very well right now. I worry about them stressing out their pipelines. I think, I hope, some of what we're seeing is like the transition to them struggling self-publishing or semi-self-publishing, like how much of the stuff they're bringing in-house from Newverse, I hope a lot of what we're seeing is just like that transitional pain versus just like the game's going to be buggy forever.
00:43:28
Speaker
I hope so. yeah And of course bugs always exist, but like it needs to not be so miserable. like I don't know. Every other time I try opening the game, it doesn't open. Yeah, that's an issue. and It's terrible. There's just so many publishers that you look at games like they're like NPC corpses already to be found. You know i mean? And looted. and it's like, that it's not dead yet.
00:43:51
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like... Ah, let it live. okay They've said that they' they want this game to have a 10-year lifespan, like at minimum. I personally believe that the devs, at least, are like, that is something that they're going for. I think that's something that they want, is for the game to last, to be sustainable.
00:44:07
Speaker
um What will be I'm sorry, when Snap finally does end, so as someone who has played many card games, and I still have a closet, I still have like, Ashes, Rise of the Phoenix, my Android Netrunner cards, and, like, all kinds of dead card games.
00:44:22
Speaker
It's like, I won't. I won't have anything of Snap. I have Key Forge and stuff. And like I won't be able to pull out my variants and reminisce about the times. It'll be sad when Snap shut down. lot of screenshots, I guess.
00:44:37
Speaker
Yeah. No, but this is a problem with archiving digital games, right? With single-player games. That's real It's already a struggle for that and for changing technology. And games like this that people pour a lot of love into. Look at all the fan art and and like zines we've had and the whole community. and it's like it's just not going to be... Okay.
00:45:00
Speaker
It's kind of devastating that it's like when it's gone, like it will be gone. The variants will be gone. Our splits will gone. That's why I don't buy them. Yeah.
00:45:11
Speaker
You know, but it's like, but that's, life is transient. You know what I mean? and Yeah. But I still have all my magic cards is the thing, even though I haven't played any in a long time. I can still sell them when I'm broke. It's,
00:45:24
Speaker
i can still sell them when i'm broke its No, I have my injury never in a crap. But do I ever go and pull them out and, like, look at them and pump through them? they're just in my basement somewhere.
00:45:35
Speaker
I really don't. I don't have enough time for all of my bullshit now. So, like, it's just like, you know, it's, you know, so, like, there is thing where it's like, yes, this isn't material and we can't hold on to it. But what what really is in this life?
00:45:55
Speaker
and beyond a memory. It's true. We're here for the experience. Most definitely. Most definitely. Yeah, ah my my beautiful Valk split makes me happy. um Right?
00:46:06
Speaker
And what does that happiness turn into but your memory of it? You know what I mean? like that that's that's That's where it's stored, not you know in a hard drive. Okay, sorry, go ahead. So, listener, if you haven't read the official blog or my article, at the very end of the of the article of the official blog, they talked about bringing more cars to the game.
00:46:27
Speaker
as I believe we already briefly discussed.
Card Releases and Game Meta
00:46:30
Speaker
um They didn't say how. They didn't say how many, they didn't say what that looks like. In this case, they ask both how and how many.
00:46:39
Speaker
Okay, sorry. As opposed to when they don't ask how, they ask how many. Okay, go ahead. The new Series 4 pack, I think, is the biggest clue here, because it contains new Series 4 cards from the current season and the last two seasons.
00:46:54
Speaker
New series four cards? Yeah. Currently, that would be, well, it would be like first Ghost Rider and then the Sanctum cards. Lafayette, Uncle Ben, and help Gorgon.
00:47:10
Speaker
Four cards. That's paltry. Four cards for a three-season coverage, and it's pretty unusual that Showdown was an event that gave us three cards instead of only one. and Pretty unprecedented.
00:47:22
Speaker
yeah They also say that this the new Series 4 pack will well be refreshed monthly, whereas the new Series 5 pack is refreshed weekly. like As soon as the new card gets added, it's in the new Series 5 pack.
00:47:34
Speaker
leads me to believe the vast majority of new cards they'll be adding are going to be series four cards that come at the start of the season that's like this is me reading the tea leaves um i expect it to be like solid inference i expect it to be like four or five cards and i also expect it to be smaller cards. Like, if you look at the the at the event cards that are not named Cassandra Nova, they're niche and small.
00:48:01
Speaker
And I think that that's how that's how they're gonna be. um And so maybe that is part of, like, not being as big of a lift on on the development of the cards, is if they're simpler. and we Are we gonna finally see Toad and Flatman? Yeah. I hope so.
00:48:22
Speaker
Yo-yo. um is that you the money for forever yep um j jonah jameson seems like a direct ah make a mos routeer except he does seem like a very fun like april fools type card i don't know um As good scenario, I'm hopeful that all these little cards can just lead to new little synergistic decks, you know, that are just good enough for me. You know me, I'll play a B-tier deck to, like, have some fun. And, know, that's that's what I want. I don't like, I love Galacta. I play all the time, but I hate when one card comes and is the meta for the time. I want more things to explore than just the cards you must include. Plus, you know, hmm.
00:49:05
Speaker
Whatever else you can put them I think they'll add a lot of value as like fleshing out the design space, you know, for some like lohing fruit stuff that like, yeah, that card probably should exist, but it's hard to exist in the current landscape because it's not flashy enough to sell in a spotlight week.
00:49:19
Speaker
Yeah, Tombstone is not going to Yeah, not going to move a Currently, they're doing events for that, but like they can only give away so many cards for free via events. So overall, I think like if they can add some more cards to the game, not a ton, but some more cards to the game, and it means that every card itself is is cheaper, so that you know the total cost of a 100% collection maybe goes up a little bit, but...
00:49:45
Speaker
If you're okay with being picky and choosy, then you can pay about the same, but end up with more cards overall. I think that's that's a win for almost everybody. um Curious where you two fall on that like that spectrum that Ree brought up, where it's like, do you care more about having more toys that you like, or do you care more about having as close to 100% collection as possible, missing as few toys as possible?
00:50:09
Speaker
Ideally, here's how I feel. I feel ideally that everybody should just be able to play all the cards and really they should just be monetizing cosmetics. Because, ah as I said, I came to Marblesnap after going through a little bit of a Fortnite phase.
00:50:24
Speaker
And that game is evil as all hell, but they don't, like, they don't get the gameplay content. Like, they don't... except for like save the world mode but who even gives a um but like no you you just you have all the same tools in the game that everybody else has all the time and that's just i don't know that seems equitable to me anywho i think it's unusual game that can price on cosmetics only Maybe.
00:50:53
Speaker
It seems to be working pretty well for them. And I think that cosmetics are already where Marvel Snap is making. Like Marvel Snap is clearly making most of its money on cosmetics, not not progression, I think. that's that's I mean, maybe maybe I'm wrong about that, but that's like my understanding. And it seems like pretty unambiguous to me.
00:51:11
Speaker
But um I guess I'm okay with not having every card, although I think I would like... i would i would just like to be able to build any deck that I can think of.
00:51:23
Speaker
And I kind of... I want that privilege for everyone, honestly. I don't think that's just a thing that I should have. I think everyone should have it. It's good for the game if everybody can be trying things. And it's like...
00:51:35
Speaker
I don't know, keeps things exciting and people engaged and stuff. But yeah, like I could be OK without having some cards. There are a lot of cards that I would like really never play. So like if I can't have every card, I'm not going to be like too disgruntled. But if I can't have every like card that's relevant to my interests and like.
00:51:52
Speaker
You know, ideas I got cooking and like, you know, hanging out, simmering on the back burner. Like there are a lot of things I would like to try outside of the things that I currently play. And so I collect a lot of cards for like old archetypes that I've never really even touched.
00:52:08
Speaker
I don't know. Point is. I could be like, you know, i can skip some cards and still be happy, but I still want to have like most of the cards and like more cards than I will ever actually play.
00:52:23
Speaker
That's what I think. Okay. i Where I fall on this first is my opinion. It's going to cover the first part of what was Ben was saying. I think if you get the season pack, if you are a subscriber to the game, then you should get enough resources to be collection complete. And if they want free-to-players to not be collection complete, that makes sense to me.
00:52:47
Speaker
That is someone who has played a lot of MMOs and something. I'm used to getting a full game, you know, for something I'm paying an active subscription to basically monthly. so um So that's where I fall on that. So, yes, I do think as...
00:53:04
Speaker
As someone, you know, who's buying that, I should be collecting complete. And, like, I think the gold patch should even be separate. That should be just my little cosmetics, you know, extra that um and I'm paying for. But um with this, I always want there to be more toys. That's just the way I view the world. I want there to be more things that exist, even if they're not all for me.
00:53:28
Speaker
Like, that's what I find great about the world. And games is I like exploring them. So I want i don't need to have everything. um i mean, I will, many games, pick up everything until my inventory is full. You know, just in case. You never know.
00:53:45
Speaker
yeah And then you say then you start only picking up the variables. But, like, yeah. know But yeah, I think more toys equals more fun, especially when, like I said, my frustrations with the game are mostly or when it feels like it's gotten very limited and I'm just not seeing a lot of variety in what I'm playing, what i can play, what other people are playing, and then then I'm bored. So um thumbs up from me.
00:54:16
Speaker
More toys. Yeah, more content is good. i've kind of trend I've kind of shifted in my opinion on this. I had ah dozen missing cards going into Sanctum Showdown, and hardly any of them were ones I was really missing.
00:54:31
Speaker
And so I was like, oh, well, maybe it's OK for there to be, you know, more toys in the game. And I can be picky and choosy about the ones I skip because have to. OK, so let me say I agree with you that I would love for free or $10 to get me every single card in the game.
00:54:50
Speaker
if the game could be sustainable that way. You know, big old caveat there. if they But look at those bundles. Look at those bundles. Scroll down that shop screen. I won't lie.
00:55:03
Speaker
So like when I, you know, I haven't been playing and I scrolled something and I saw this beautiful scene and I was like, maybe this would bring me back in. Where is the scene in the shop today? What's up? What's up? What's up? Should I, should I get And I click in and it's like, here's the web shop bundle for a few, you know, spent.
00:55:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's the wheel track. And I was like, well, this, you know, Like, no snap. Like, no second dinner. Like, this did not get me to open the game.
00:55:33
Speaker
So, yeah, it's a bit of a bummer. See, i alllthough all the wailing that happens is for cosmetics, definitely. Yeah, I think cosmetics are already... That's fine. I'm fine with that.
00:55:45
Speaker
That's what i yeah think. I think you might be underestimating how many players are spending just enough to stay collection complete. And that that is like, I don't know, $50, $100 a month, something like that. Like it's a, it's a decent amount more than a season pass to do that.
00:56:00
Speaker
i don't know. I'm missing three cards, I believe. Let me double check that. Yes. Well, not everybody optimizes as extremely as you do. Well, maybe, maybe they don't. In some ways I think that's a big win of snap packs, right? If you want to be the min max or player, you could just play two months behind and get every single card at a big discount.
00:56:19
Speaker
That's cool. Mm-hmm. um I'll probably do some version of that, yes Yeah, I've been thinking about that because I'm still i'm missing five cards now.
00:56:30
Speaker
I would probably play Speed and Scream a little bit. Approximate Midnight, i might play a little bit, too. Oh, I want Speed. Oh, those three cards are so great. ah like I like all three of those cards. I know they're good cards, but I don't know how much I would play them. And so I'm sitting here thinking, like, okay, let's say they cost 4,000 tokens each for the for the older Series 5 cards.
00:56:51
Speaker
It's only going to cost me 20,000 tokens. that's That's less than seven keys to get five cards. But... I don't know what the new like what the new card release rate looks like yet. Maybe I want to save those seven keys for cards I care about more.
00:57:06
Speaker
um Yeah, I still haven't decided if I'm going to do that or not. like When Snap Facts launch, I will easily have enough resources to be collection complete on the spot. I just don't know if I care about that. yep Yep. oh It'll be overkill. Yeah.
00:57:20
Speaker
Yeah. But that could like... the horde could go away really, really quickly if all of a sudden there's a ton more cards coming out every month. yeah So like, I'm wary of of spending too hard too fast.
00:57:33
Speaker
um Anyway, I'm in favor of new toys as long as I can keep up to be like meta relevant and stay up with like cards that I care about. I'm okay with missing cards every now and then. It's not my favorite thing, but I would rather have more cards that I like in general. Like, I think that think that's a ah good thing.
00:57:53
Speaker
And I think it's very good for the game. I think that more game pieces, especially if they released more game pieces at the same time, I think that would be very healthy. Because I think that yeah this little drip feed, this little trickle of like one card every... I i hate the rhythm. I hate that that cadence. It's just not... It's not good.
00:58:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm kind of interested in the like hybrid rhythm that that I'm imagining, where it's you a big burst of cards once a season, also and one extra card every week, sometimes two because there's an event, and also you know every other week or so we have an OTA or patch. Not that patches typically bring balance changes anymore.
00:58:31
Speaker
like So there's three different cases that are like shaking up the meta. i could I could be excited about my new deck that I built with a new card. And then I play against someone and they're also excited about the deck they just built with a new card.
00:58:46
Speaker
And like, I can't say that about things like right now, because I would be saying the new card because yeah yeah it's just the one, you know? So like if everyone is chasing novelty, like there's only one place to, I don't know. Yeah. I think that, I, I think sometimes it would just be better if they released a whole season's worth of cards just at the start of the month. But like, I know that, you know, they got to keep people coming back. And I understand that there are considerations here, but like, gosh, I do miss the paper trading card games when the set would come out and, you know, do you,
00:59:23
Speaker
Everyone would have a lot of ideas and nobody could be doing all of them at once. Whereas when there's just one new card, yeah, yeah y'all see exactly what I'm saying. I i love that dynamic.
00:59:34
Speaker
I love that dynamic where it's like at first there's just this like extremely fertile ground and and so many different ideas can to happen. and But I think Snap's a smaller game and it can be solved easier. And like if we get everything at the top of the season, it's going to be so samey by the end of the season.
00:59:49
Speaker
so be I don't know if I believe in the the solvedness as much as some people do I think that the player count has honestly gotten low enough that I'm less confident that anything is ever solved really i don't know there's a lot of space that doesn't get explored like I agree with that um but i yeah um I wonder if having a few more weeks to to explore would would even help with that People are narrow-minded.
Patch Updates and Future Speculations
01:00:25
Speaker
Okay, we had a patch this week, which ah um mean did change some things. They made it so that like next season, your rank doesn't decay as much, depending on how... like The lower your rank is, the less it decays, which I think is great.
01:00:38
Speaker
ah Makes it easier for you to you know actually make like rank progress season over season. Probably some small changes in the patches, but but really the the meat and potatoes of the patch that we're all here for is two two seasons out cards are in the data mines. So we're going to talk about those. ah it's a funny It's a funny thing, right? like they don't even Usually they don't talk about the data mines until they have been in the season preview video, but the community sure spends a lot of time thinking about them. And and i I think it's fun to look at these.
01:01:14
Speaker
The Season Pass card, this is a magical month. The Season Pass card is Merlin, 2-3. the start of each turn, add a Wizardly Incantation to your hand. Wizardly Incantation sounds an awful lot like an arcane art. These are skills.
01:01:31
Speaker
Omniversal Presence, there are three. Omniversal Presence is a one-cost skill with on reveal, replace this location with a new one, and give Merlin plus two power.
01:01:43
Speaker
Once in future is also one cost. On reveal, shuffle the your lowest power other card here into your deck to get plus two energy next turn.
01:01:55
Speaker
And then polymorph, also one cost. On reveal, transform your lowest power other card here. It's really awkward wording. Into one that costs two more. Like, ah get it, but... and and I appreciate the clarity, but also wonder if there's a neater way to say that.
01:02:13
Speaker
um Anyway. Transform your lowest power other card here into one that costs two more. it's like a targeted super Cersei. um I love Polymorph. I love it. I'll always play a wizard. yeah i was i was worried I wasn't born a Skywalker. And in d and d you can always become a wizard through sheer study. Hmm.
01:02:40
Speaker
Good at that. So, like, this will be fun. Like, putting cards in your hand. i love Niko. I think this will be this would be very fun. I'll have a lot of fun with it.
01:02:52
Speaker
I like this approach to the ah wizard casting a bunch of spells more than Agamotto's, right? You don't have to thicken your deck at all. It's low cost.
01:03:03
Speaker
You can save a few of these in your hand and spend them all on the same turn. Yeah, this is card generation of a pretty curious volume. This generates three cards, right? Or four?
01:03:19
Speaker
One per turn. yeah yeah Yeah, you play it on two and then you get... yeah Oh, I see what you're saying. ah Yeah, so three, four, five, six, four. um They could all be the same card, right? um Yeah.
01:03:32
Speaker
But that's it. You get some like you get some hidden and information. They don't know. cards That's four cards for a two cost. That's a lot of card generation. It is, yeah. And you have two cards more in your hand? That's like twice as much as Chief Bishop. Like for devil dinosaur purposes, this is kind of a big deal.
01:03:49
Speaker
Yeah. And some of these are a lot bigger. you take up space on your board, so you will want to use them potentially for different things, right? No, but taking up space in your hand, yeah. like that feel like no Nobody makes four cards. Nobody does.
01:04:03
Speaker
Nick Fury doesn't recruit four cards. Nobody. Moon Girl. I guess Moon Girl can't make more than three. if She can't do four cards. She can do three. um This is like the new ceiling for card generation.
01:04:16
Speaker
That's like notable.
01:04:21
Speaker
okay I like it. Neil seems quite as quite as impressed as I am, but that's alright. I'm into the... way Sorry, I was thinking about... There's this subreddit called Wizard Posting, and it's like people just pretend they're wizards.
01:04:34
Speaker
It's funny. It's like roleplaying? uh in a way it's like meaning know i you're like hey when you're like crystal bar but it's all about like it's classic wizardry with like beards and like so this is kind of like the the wizard rap album that the workaholics guys did like like in that same like okay I'm sorry. you know I'm sorry we don't get your references. Just doing your wizard stuff, as one does.
01:05:05
Speaker
The people who made the Comedy Central series, Workaholics, also ah made it ah an album of wizard rap, um you know, about, like, being immortal wizards and, you know...
01:05:19
Speaker
the struggle of wizarding and making potions and stuff. It's pretty, it's decent. I don't, I don't, I don't sign off on all the lyrics. I, there are a couple of things that change here or there, but all in all, a fun romp of a, of a funny little, little rap album.
01:05:36
Speaker
How do you two feel about, see, I think it's like clear that on reversal presence, you know, Scarlet witch plus two power. Good. you know, a one, two Scarlet Witch sort of polymorph, like one, one energy to upgrade a card by two costs, like more often than that, that's very good.
01:05:54
Speaker
um The one cost on these is stellar. This is just a great card, in my opinion. It's not just going be fun, it'll be good. yeah Drop like three or four on a single turn.
01:06:05
Speaker
Get some hidden information. Your opponent doesn't know which cards it's generating. Will this work with Black Swan, too? You know what mean? It kind of solves some of those like drop a lot of little cards late problems. It would be weird she said character, wouldn't it? Yeah.
01:06:20
Speaker
This works with Black Swan. I guess we could test that with Agamotto's skill, but um I love this with Black Swan, Hitmonkey, Bishop. That's awesome. She does say cards, not characters. that would be so weird if she said characters. I want to have a full sorcery deck, like Agamotto, Merlin.
01:06:39
Speaker
know I get too seeny, but... like Wait until you see these cards coming up. There's a lot of them that skills. Yeah, you're going have some options. Yeah. Okay, but once in future, what do you think about this card?
01:06:51
Speaker
You pay one energy, you shuffle the lowest power card here back into your deck to get plus two energy. Like, plus two energy is great. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Obviously, it's good.
01:07:03
Speaker
Also, getting that rock out of there... youre Yeah, but you could just draw it again next turn. yeah Yeah, but like it'scycllog it's ah gone, you know? mean, you want something with an on reveal you love, right? That's what you're doing. That's the pro was thinking of, is it could let you play the card again, and maybe you like that.
01:07:21
Speaker
like Yeah, maybe we want to do like Silver Sable over and over or something cute. Any card that you're happy balance. Yeah, Korg. Things that that annoy your opponent, mostly. M'Baku.
01:07:31
Speaker
M'Baku.
01:07:34
Speaker
M'Baku is an excellent target for Once and Future. See, M'Baku is a card that literally never played, but I'm very glad he's in my collection. treasure the right to play M'Baku anytime I want.
01:07:47
Speaker
And one of these days, I will. yeah you know, I still have it. Clea, ah one one After this card permanently gains power, add a Flames of the Faultine to your hand.
01:08:03
Speaker
Flames of the Faultine. Oh, and that works whether she's in your hand or in play. She'll generate that for you. So you could use it at Nakia. um What else? Buffs in hand. Gwenpool.
01:08:14
Speaker
ah Flames of the Faultine. it is I don't know if we know the energy cost for it. Go double check that in a second. On reveal. Afflict an enemy card here with minus two power. I think it's a one.
01:08:27
Speaker
um ah This card seems awkward to me. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. I agree with you. You really think so?
01:08:38
Speaker
Yeah. It's a buff slash affliction, you know? She's generating one twos. You have to do the work to buff her permanently, and then she gives you one two. thing one two Why do they have to cost? why Can't they be zero twos?
01:08:53
Speaker
I think think it would be much... Okay, I just verified on Snapfan it is a one cost. So, I think... what Yeah, I think they need to be... i mean, even if they were zero ones, they'd more interested.
01:09:08
Speaker
i don't think it's going to stay like this, because that card's not good, you're right. Yeah, it's really awkward. um it's It's got to go to zero. like the That's why it's a one cost, right, for Clea? Because it's just like, it's so you you have to get so many things in motion. Like, right now, you don't put buff stuff with Affliction stuff.
01:09:28
Speaker
Yeah. On the other hand, I'm just like thinking about this and like, I don't know like how much, like, say you make three Flames of the Faultine and you play them.
01:09:43
Speaker
i mean, like, that's kind of worth three energy, but like, but you have to play Clea to get them. That's, you know, they gotta be zero. They gotta be, there's no way they're making them cost one. I don't know. I think it's fun. i Like, she's something I want to play with, but I think, like, she's one of those, she's going to be very frustrating to try and deck build with, maybe. Yeah.
01:10:03
Speaker
I, uh, I don't... The fact that it works in your hand, maybe you just don't play Clea. She still takes up a deck slot, like you were saying, but maybe you just never play her. Do you think you play her with Hope Summers and you go nuts?
01:10:18
Speaker
yeah I mean, it's got to be like Bishop Hope Summers cards that care about you playing cards.
Card Strategies and Mechanics Debate
01:10:23
Speaker
Bishop, yeah. It's got to be. yeah i was thinking about having her on the board, hitting her like five times with Kahori.
01:10:29
Speaker
Okay, great. I have a 510 in my hand that takes up five spaces. um I think, yeah, it seems likely that she'll change before ah final release. Okay.
01:10:41
Speaker
Although, is she too good if they're 0? If they're 0, is she too good? Because I think she might be too good if they're 0. Maybe she has to... If they're are they too good? Oh, I like that. I like that a lot.
01:10:52
Speaker
Okay. I think that's the best of... That that feels like the the preferred outcome to me. I don't know. Wait, why do you care what the power is if it's... It's just banished, right? I'm saying the affliction. It's effectively a um You know, as long as your opponent doesn't have Luke Cage or Shadow King.
01:11:14
Speaker
um
01:11:18
Speaker
Alright. Maybe it's okay for that. Dormano. This is a super cool card. This is a whole-ass quest. seven ten Game start.
01:11:28
Speaker
Begin a summoning ritual. This is a three-step skill thing. So the very the first step of the summoning ritual is a zero cost.
01:11:40
Speaker
On reveal, merge your highest power destroyed card with Dormammu to continue the ritual.
01:11:50
Speaker
The second step is a one cost. On reveal, Dormammu steals one power from each other card here to continue the ritual. And then the third step is a three cost.
01:12:01
Speaker
On reveal, destroy two of your other cards here to summon Dormammu, who at this point has more than 10 power probably. um i don't know if it's good, but it's super fun and interesting. also don't know if it's good, especially because that last one is merge. It's really fun.
01:12:21
Speaker
That last one, what if you're destroying cards that you want to destroy? No, I'm sure you are destroying cards that you want to destroy. I just wish you also got the power. I see. But yeah, we could be destroying a ah Nimrod and a, I don't know, Bucky or something. yeah i'm sure I'm sure it'll be. Like, it kind of feels like, and i think it's probably good, right? Like, just that first...
01:12:43
Speaker
I like getting the power back from a destroyed thing. that's like I like the first step of the summoning ritual. It's little awkward because I can be destroying. like You don't want to destroy Hood.
01:12:55
Speaker
Bucky's only one power. You've got to find something that's worth destroying. But you can get full on into Destroy with this. like like it, because I've been kind of getting more into Destroy as Discard's gotten less interesting to me. It's powerful there.
01:13:12
Speaker
And this gives you something different to do. It feels like Destroy has been a little bit trapped, where your most interesting thing is like, ooh, I put in Lady Deathstrike instead of Arnim Zola or something. And it's like, come on. Yeah, Destroy has what, like two and a half archetypes? It's got... Nimrod and Phoenix Force on top of just pure destroy.
01:13:34
Speaker
Yeah, they're so static. And it's like, yeah. So this will give me a chance to shake it up. I'm into it. I feel like there might be other kinds of destroy that... I don't know. Yeah, how much destroy are playing,
01:13:48
Speaker
Give me your kooky fun destroy decks. I don't have to build all the... I don't have time to build all the decks. I'm a busy person. i'm just saying. You can't do genre, damn it.
01:13:59
Speaker
No, I just... and They've printed a lot of Destroy cards now. Like, we got Fire, we got Misery, you like, there there are just more cards than there used to be, and i could I could believe that there is something fun to do with them that people have not felt like chasing down.
01:14:12
Speaker
I mean, have like, Gundam deck with Destroyer and stuff, you know what mean? But it's just, like, how far am I off of anybody else's Destroyer? I don't know. I'm just... I'm a fan of diversifying what any, you know, specific card can do. Also, so i Obviously. obviously This card is good, right? It only costs four energy.
01:14:33
Speaker
i have four energy over three turns. um For what? You're probably getting at least 13 power it. I mean, you've stolen one power from each other card here. Oh, yeah. We should double that power. So it's, what, like a 416?
01:14:49
Speaker
Conservatively? Yeah. he Seems that way.
01:14:56
Speaker
You see a nice Cthulhu feel. Isn't that what Doctor... Isn't that Doom 2099 just about nowadays? He's, he's what, 418 or something now?
01:15:08
Speaker
and don't I don't... They keep changing and it. They changed him twice. He used to be a 420 and that was easy to remember. I think it's like 15 16 now. Okay. come
01:15:19
Speaker
Yeah. i Anyway, i think it's super interesting, super fun. Love to see it. Love to see such a... like This is a card that would be a big bad um if that was still a thing that they did. Also, I like that doesn't shuffle any bullshit into your deck.
01:15:33
Speaker
Yeah. This this game start starts in your hand. I like it. I like it. Yeah, it's great. And summoning Dormammu presumably means... from anywhere, right? From anywhere, I would assume. can do your deck the whole time, and you just play them to the board. It's very cool.
01:15:49
Speaker
um Okay. not Just a nod to Elixir, who is in the the May season, ah got changed, but we're not going to talk about it. Ben, this is like what we did with Hydra Stomper, where we acknowledged that he changed, but we didn't really talk about it.
01:16:06
Speaker
I listened back. We did not even mention and changed, really. Okay. I promise. Elixir changed, but we'll talk about it I'll talk about it. It went up to two. It would have been nuts at one. Elixir should not have cost one. Okay, good. They they did the right thing. they changed two It wasn't activate. Now it's an on reveal, but we're not going to talk about Elixir until we're ranking the next month.
01:16:28
Speaker
Also, it's still too good. Spoiler. Boom. Okay. ah ah It is a very cool card. Jennifer Kale, a two, two activate. Next turn, you get plus one energy.
01:16:42
Speaker
It's activate Psylocke.
01:16:46
Speaker
yeah I'm into a woman bold enough to name herself after, like, greenery. question is, does Psylocke want to be an activate? i would argue no.
01:16:57
Speaker
I think in some situations it's better. It's not better for ramping out negative, but um this would let you, say, play a six cost for two turns back-to-back.
01:17:08
Speaker
Yes, it would, but there are already a lot of ways to do that. Hope Summers. Activate's very awkward, though. You have to have her on the field by turn four. So you activate her on five and get the energy on six. Like, that's awkward.
01:17:22
Speaker
i i think this is a clunker. I think this card's going to change. I think she's one of those Series 4 cards that's gonna that's just like really narrow. There's sometimes where your Psylocke doesn't... You know what i mean? like You do want to play it early, but sometimes... That's my problem with Psylocke. Sometimes I need to play her because it's turn two and what am I saving her for?
01:17:45
Speaker
But I don't have 4 card to play. Yeah, exactly. So like, there yeah there's probably some situations for specific decks where she might be better than a Psylocke.
01:17:57
Speaker
And I like that, you know, and if she's going to be a cheaper, hopefully, like series four card, I don't mind that little iterative difference with Psylocke as an option. yeah I think she's interesting. And I agree. This is a series four card.
01:18:11
Speaker
like Maybe she's the event card. Do you think the spotlight variant is a Sashir Zameda one? I really hope so. I didn't realize when I saw this that Jennifer Kale was a white woman in the comics. and And that's fine. Also, I don't know if you've seen any of her stand-up specials, but she's very funny.
01:18:29
Speaker
I like Sashir Zameda a lot. As soon as I saw this card, i was like, oh, I really hope they do an MCU variant because i want that Jennifer Kale. sure they will. like They've kind of done...
01:18:41
Speaker
ah and ka I don't think i don't think i hit that hard enough. She's a very funny comedian. You should check her out. okay I will. Thank you. i don't typically watch comedy. Anyway, I don't like to laugh. All my favorite comedians got old enough to disappoint me. oh dear thats Either human beings or comedians or both.
01:19:06
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like... I think part of it is... You gotta pick your heroes carefully. I don't have to... I think the problem is the comedy I like best is like self-reflective and you know is inward. And once a comedian gets really successful and they're no longer struggling in life and they're at a power level they haven't been before, then it's like they're... What? nothing they Anyway. Now they're punching down. Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:34
Speaker
Morgan Le Fay, four or five on reveal return all your discarded and destroy cards to your hand with plus three power. It sounds hella flashy. Good one, Lauren. It sounds like a big ability.
01:19:54
Speaker
i mean, you were previously saying hella flashy, right? Yes. thought it was very intentional. As in Hela the six cost cart?
01:20:05
Speaker
Yeah, you were, right? like like We've all been like, where we're doing like understatements. We're doing bits here, right? That was ah like... Which sounds hella flashy. You even said it, right?
01:20:19
Speaker
I just meant the answer. Are you telling me you were not doing that on purpose? No, she was. but That is indeed what she is telling you to your very face. She's gaslighting us for sure. She definitely did it on purpose.
01:20:32
Speaker
If I did it with subconscious. always believe, Lauren. Okay. That was well done, though. Yes. um just saying, like, read the ability. You read that and you're like, oh that's a sick ability.
01:20:43
Speaker
and then you're like, well, what am I discarding or destroying in the first three turns the game? hella flashy. Pun supposedly not intended. ah Yes, very flashy. Okay, but is it good? i don't know if it's good. I also don't know it's good.
01:20:58
Speaker
Put it with first, Ghost Rider. Discard your Iron Man. Bring it back. With three power on it. yeah We'll find fun stuff to do with her. I just think there's a lot of plenty of good cards for her to be paired with.
01:21:15
Speaker
It should be fun. you know I think this this reminds me of Wolverine and X-23 where they are discard and destroy but really you just want to destroy them. And I think she's kind of the opposite. like She's a discard or destroy card but I think mostly she's a discard card.
01:21:32
Speaker
but Like, how many how many good things are you destroying in the first three turns of the game? Most of the best things come right back to your hand. Anyway, like... That's what I'm saying. Maybe she's starting to give an opportunity for there to be... You know what mean?
01:21:46
Speaker
Because that is... You always... When you're playing low-cost destroy, you are playing like Deadpool. yeah good Can I pitch something adorable but impractical? Yes. So I'm thinking, what are the fun discard cards that actually count as being discarded at the end, right?
01:22:03
Speaker
And it's Swarm. Pretty much end of list, right? Okay, so... Discard Swarm. You get your two, three cost Swarms. It's very boring. But then you bring back a six cost Swarm and then you make more of that Swarm.
01:22:16
Speaker
and that's Or a six power Swarm, rather. Yeah, and Blade loves that because... Makes six power... The card to your turns is surely going to the end of your hand.
01:22:27
Speaker
it's it's It's so nothing. like don't Don't build that deck, but just think about it. that works with Bullseye, and I hate Bullseye. I don't like playing against it. Veto, we can't do that because it's Bullseye.
01:22:40
Speaker
I guess maybe it does kind of up. I encourage a psychopathic kill. plausibility comes knocking when I least expect it. Man, is this form thing real? I don't know.
01:22:52
Speaker
i don't I wouldn't go that far. I still think it sounds highly impractical. But maybe. Morgan Lefebvre, Blade, Activate Bullseye. All these things on turn five. Now you have four... It's just gonna flood your hand with the crappy three-power ones, though, right? Six-power swarms.
01:23:08
Speaker
You really have to get the three-power ones out of the way. Play the threes. Yeah.
01:23:16
Speaker
yeah Might be something. Who knows? haven't, I like, this is a, this thought happened on the air. I can't, I'm, I'm on three hours of sleep. i don't know what ideas are good or not. Where she's a, she's a complicated card. Like it's hard to think through what does she go in? I don't think she goes in anything that exists right now. Like,
01:23:36
Speaker
Yeah, she's definitely... No no deck is asking. No deck has been like begging for Morgan Le Fay. This is a horse a different color. That's what I like about her, though. like it's like And that's exactly how she should be. Defy all archetypes, Morgan Le Fay. Be your own. I'm into it.
01:23:54
Speaker
That's what I want. to nine Black Cat. existing ds Don't hate that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, is that actually, that might be, that's, that's pretty cool.
01:24:05
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Dang. I like that. Got a run, hon. two. After you play a skill, plus one power.
01:24:16
Speaker
Just a little scaler guy. Yeah. It'll go in my wizard deck. Reason for the season, yeah. It's going to be Sword and Sorceress will be the deck. I'll put in like scene or something We'll get some ladies of swords. Because like, okay, there's this old, I collect this old, it's like a short story anthology. It was called Sword and Sorceress. It's like from the 80s, like into the 90s. I feel like that may have been in my home. I don't know.
01:24:46
Speaker
Yeah. So whenever I go to old bookstores, I look for, like, volumes I don't have. But it's, like, this quest where I can't just, like, order do the books and get them if they even exist to be found. You have find them.
01:24:58
Speaker
They're grail-like. Yes, I must find them in a quest-like manner. And it's just, like, pulp fantasy that's, like, just, like, old. You know? It's a...
01:25:09
Speaker
You know, it's old style, but I enjoy it. It's fun. Anyway, so yes, back to Nicholas Scratch. yeah i'm all into I'm all in on the wizardry and the skills. um and You know, I want to do it. Let me put some... Let me cast some skills. Okay, full disclosure. With on-curve Merlin alone, he's a 1-6. That's good.
01:25:32
Speaker
Okay, full disclosure. Let's hear it. No, I'll save it. It's so off topic and I just went off topic. So we'll save it for like outro or something. Nah, nah. I don't know. i I kind of want it now.
01:25:43
Speaker
Okay, so when I was in high school and we were passing notes back in class, what me and my friend would do were like wizard duels. First, you'd make ah a wizard that usually had to be like had a theme, generally elemental in nature, like a fire wizard.
01:25:58
Speaker
And then you'd write out like your attack on the other wizard, and then you'd pass them the note, and then they would like counter it and do your own text. you'd write this story back and forth.
01:26:09
Speaker
That's delightful. So cool. That's very I was pretty cool high school. I knew I was right to ask about it. That's so good. I love that.
01:26:21
Speaker
Anyway, okay. Is it kind of like, I use magic missile. I use my shield. Well, i use my anti-shield missile. or was it a look No, but Lauren, it has to be very descriptive. like you know like She raises... you know like She water ball.
01:26:40
Speaker
Are you even a wizard dueling if you're not being flashy about it? If your flames are not phoenixes rising from the ground? If your water attacks are in tempest rain? You know, just get into this. would be great at it. I appreciate that.
01:26:56
Speaker
okay I think that that sounds really fun. Sounds like the sort of thing I did with my siblings growing up. Especially in church. I know about that. nightmare a two two on reveal replace the text of each card in your hand with that of a random card that costs the same amount
01:27:20
Speaker
i want to hear your thoughts first i mean i i was looking at the card who's who's the you yeah Either. Oh, okay. My thoughts are, this is like what? This is like some kind of like a zero Sauron kind of card, right?
01:27:37
Speaker
Like I i recognize those from a distance, I suppose. I've never built in that, you know. So the card's power and cost will remain the same, but the text will change.
01:27:53
Speaker
Yep. so yeah Do a little Nazi apology for Red Skull. Yeah, that's why I think it's... Everything's in Emperor Hulk. um yeah I it's Sauron stuff, right?
01:28:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I kind of love it. I love it, too. Right? The surprise! Your opponent will never be able to see your random like bullshit shit.
01:28:17
Speaker
And that's how you and I love to win, Lauren. They'll never see it coming. this This thing that like makes information that your opponent cannot guess or like not even not even account for. They have no idea what cost the cards are, yeah.
01:28:32
Speaker
this I think this is like going to be... A certain kind of player is going to despise this card, and I think I am that kind of player. i love love this card. Of course, it's very Cersei-like.
01:28:47
Speaker
It has all the same targets as... It's very RSM-like is what it is. Yeah, and then but also more targets than Sauron also because um Infina, you know, like an Atuma or something like that. Like, there are other cards that have negative text. can you imagine an Ebony Ma Niko?
01:29:06
Speaker
that would be great. Ebony Ma such a good target. love this. Who's going to hate this? This would be so fun. Safety. Oh, yeah. Yes. You're absolutely right.
01:29:17
Speaker
And he's going to be right to hate this. Y'all, yeah like and the like... This level of unknowable information should not... No. This card does have a trade-off. It only hits the cards in your hand.
01:29:30
Speaker
So if you want more hits, you have to not play cards and save Nightmare for later. So, like, there's there's some balance there. But... Fast, like... Fast decisions. It's going to be really frustrating that somebody can...
01:29:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's a Tukas that lets you play Infanat. like Yeah. This part is gross. I'm going to have so... Yeah, it's going to... People will hate it so much. It'll be like Loki, and I'm going to have so much... It lets you play Infanat, and also Infanat might be Arnim Zola.
01:30:04
Speaker
Yeah! I'm to hate playing against it. We'll have to see whether my joy of playing it outweighs my may hatred of the... I think it sounds so fun. um I hope you think they think better of this.
01:30:22
Speaker
That's fair. Okay. The next card. The Ancient One. A three five On reveal, add a Dao Mandala to your hand.
01:30:33
Speaker
Mandala? I don't know. know it's Dao. 3-0, Dao Mandala. On reveal, your characters here copy the text of one of your ongoing cards here.
01:30:46
Speaker
Up front, it's a 3-5 card, Jen. Like, that's... Yeah. It's good. um The ability seems really good, too. Yeah.
01:30:57
Speaker
At first I thought it was a clip card. Like, of course, I'm going to want to do something and make three Wongs. So I have six on reveals like that's cool. I can turn my cheap cards into Wongs. Who doesn't like that? But then I thought about Victoria Hand and I was like, sheesh.
01:31:12
Speaker
I mean, I feel like that's what you want it. What about Miss Marvel, huh? Yes, I'm down for it.
01:31:24
Speaker
Trying to think, like, what's what's the thing that wins multiple lanes? Like, oh honestly, maybe can pop in Claw, yeah. It's not quite as spread, but, you know.
01:31:38
Speaker
Oh, I was going to say, it's kind of fun that you can give ah Cap Shield new text, but still move it around. But Cap Shield is ongoing, so you'd be, like, doing a 50-50 that you're not spreading that text.
01:31:52
Speaker
Yeah, this is where you want a lot of on reveals that you don't mind turning the tech, you know, I mean, you're playing for their on reveal that you're planning to hopefully turn. So you have a couple like ongoing targets.
01:32:02
Speaker
Good ongoing targets, maybe a third. Right. And then the challenge is like, okay, so you're not just building around this one card. Where else do you want the synergy of like on reveal and ongoing kind of stuff?
01:32:16
Speaker
um It would be fun to like, to like make them all wongs and like then do a spectrum, you know, at the end. yeah and then they all get i'm going deck.
01:32:27
Speaker
You do six times on the spectrum. That lane you won for sure. You've got to do something in the other lanes. um It just seems super fun. ah And, and good.
01:32:40
Speaker
i Even if it's making three Goliaths. Yeah, it costs three twice. yeah Three twice. This is a six energy investment. yeah But one of the one of the the halves of it is a three five, and y'all know I go nuts for three fives.
01:32:56
Speaker
And the other half is a Ravonna card. Yeah, it's just Agamotto to me. It's a very important point, but it's very good point. Whether or not it's you know important is... i was I was glad to have it pointed out.
01:33:12
Speaker
It feels like a motto to me in that it's just like a little bit difficult to build around in that it's like, you know, what were you doing with it? Yeah. Yeah. It is certainly an interesting card.
01:33:24
Speaker
ah The Ancient One herself could take on ongoing text, right? A with Iron Man's text. Yeah, absolutely. Ready to be overwritten. Yep. Maybe this is really good to Cloak. He can like spread around Iron Man's or something.
01:33:40
Speaker
Ooh, maybe it is. Hmm. But how? No, yeah, I don't. on turn five, you play Dalmondala and Cloak. Now you have three Iron Men that you can you can leave some of them there and some of them move.
01:33:53
Speaker
i don't know. Yeah, okay. All right. No, that that that was that was all. I just needed i needed that explained. Okay. I was like, would that take more turns? It's hard to visualize things sometimes.
01:34:06
Speaker
It's all good. Or conceptualize. i don't i don't know. Words. Our last card of the season. I'm fried. Astral projection. It's a skill that is 3-0. On reveal, copy the text of an on reveal card in your hand.
01:34:23
Speaker
Love it. I don't know what I'm doing with this, but yeah, three. How do you get this card? We don't know how this happens. You want to hit Gwen pull with it is what you want. So my, yeah, my guess is, and this is just my guess.
01:34:38
Speaker
This is the first skill we're getting that can go directly into your deck. Yuck. Because it doesn't, it's not attached to any other card that's generating it.
01:34:49
Speaker
And it's not attached to the locations. Like the two new locations for the season don't say anything about astral projection. So you could just pop out two Doom Bots. You could just half price Arnim Zola. You could just, I don't know.
01:35:04
Speaker
Those two are enough. Yeah. You have strong on reveals for sure. mean, true, but it's like, if you're playing a destroy deck, you don't just, you could have a venom. You could, you know, it's like, yeah, I feel like maybe lady death strike is a a good target for astral projection.
01:35:21
Speaker
me Like playing early and just like cutting them down. Dang. Yeah. Stopping all their momentum. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's,
Game Recommendations and Personal Experiences
01:35:33
Speaker
I'm thinking this is this is not about the card itself. This is the concept of having skills in decks. I think it's really funny because currently decks are characters and and some pieces of equipment, right? There's like Cerebro and Infinity Stones and Quinjets.
01:35:49
Speaker
But I'm just thinking, like, you know, i I'm lining up my army, Captain America Civil War style, against Rhi's army, and she's got her 12 warriors, and I have 11 warriors, and she's like, yo, what's the, like, you know, ah you're missing a player, and I'm like, nah, my 12th player right here. It's something that I know how to do. And it's like, as if my other 11, you know, warriors don't have skills of their own.
01:36:14
Speaker
It's funny thematically, like, yeah Having an entire spot in your deck filled up by a skill. Whereas every other skill we've seen so far is attached to a character.
01:36:25
Speaker
agree. I'd prefer it stayed that way. Me too. Also, like there are so many characters they haven't made cards for. Why are we making a card for astral projection? And also the thing we're about to talk about, like the concept of astral projection. No, but like, okay. So we're going to add non-character spells and also we're just making the fantastic four. But again, okay. We're talking about that. All right.
01:36:55
Speaker
These are, every time there's a patch, we get some like some hints of cards that are coming. You get just their name. No card text, no ability, no art. i mean, no like ah cost and power.
01:37:07
Speaker
like Like Jennifer Kale was in the previous patch. We knew she was coming. We just didn't know anything about her. So this this patch brought us Herbie and then each of the Fantastic Four. Human Torch, colon, First Steps.
01:37:19
Speaker
Invisible Woman, colon, First Steps, and so forth. Presumably lining up with the movie. It sounds like you hate this, Ben. Yep. yeah I also hate this.
01:37:32
Speaker
like What do you think their variant selection is going to be? there going to be a lot of variants for Mr. Fantastic First Steps? you going to have a lot of options there? Yeah, okay.
01:37:43
Speaker
But let me let me give you why I like it. There's two reasons why I like this thing. This is the symbiote. Is it just because they botched the Fantastic Four so hard the first time? Because I do like that they're taking another stab at it.
01:37:55
Speaker
Yes, but the expanded version of that thought is, okay, so now we can have recognizable characters at the beginning of the game, but also have them at the end of the Because there are very few of them that survive that, like Iron Man does, you know?
01:38:06
Speaker
um And so I like that aspect of it. I also think it's very comic book-y to have multi you know multi-versal versions of characters. like Yeah, I guess you're fine. You have regular Human Torch and Human Torch First Steps both out there.
01:38:24
Speaker
It's goofy for sure. Yeah, the world that Symbiote Spider-Man promised us has finally ah come to pass. Rock, Raccoon, and Gru I think is a bad one for the record. The thing I just think most about it is that the Marvel Universe is so giant. People are always creating new characters. There's a million characters. We don't have Toad yet, y'all.
01:38:49
Speaker
Yeah, there's just, there's so many characters to mine. It's like, I, i yeah, I don't need um like, if there weren't, then, you know, I guess i would I would be fine with different versions of the, you know, the few popular characters. Yeah, we can have Astral Projection once there's a Pyro card.
01:39:07
Speaker
That's my stance. We can add the second set of Fantastic Four after we get Firestar. Like just give the characters. just yeah To be fair, we're still mostly getting new characters, right?
01:39:22
Speaker
I don't know. How about before you give us microwaved Fantastic Four leftovers, maybe give us Alpha Flight like the first time. Yes. We don't have to perfectly align with I know it's because First Step's coming out and they want to all like have all Marvel stuff be First Steps, but it's like, I'm fine if it's just Fantastic Four related. You know what i mean?
01:39:45
Speaker
Give us some Mole Man or something. Oh my god, I love Mole Man. You gotta to love Mole Man. Yeah, I think that would be a good solution, too. Give me some molloids. this specific case, I think it gives us Fantastic Four that might actually synergize with each other.
01:40:00
Speaker
Whereas the current four not at all. Or, you know, maybe they could just... Maybe they could weird thing where you have to, like, they are, like, they have to all four be in the deck together, you know what i mean? Like, they're a commitment of four cards already.
01:40:16
Speaker
Then I would hate it less. Like, yeah, you can't play one without playing all of them. would be into that. I also saw the idea that they might be, like, a high Evo situation, where, like, there's some card you can put in your make. Oh, that turns them into first up.
01:40:29
Speaker
yeah yeah But that doesn't sound like a way to make a lot of money. But i think I think that that's an interesting way to solve the problem. Especially the variant problem. Do that, please.
01:40:40
Speaker
Okay. At the very end, just a small note, there were only nine titles in this patch. So I don't think we're going to be playing Title Tussle 6. Even a short version, because the titles weren't very interesting.
01:40:53
Speaker
um Maybe next patch. On to our side quests. Secret homework this week assigned by Rhi. Okay, so my homework assignment was to suggest a couch co-op game bonus points if it's for four players.
01:41:13
Speaker
And for my own, i've i would bring to you a game called Moon Hunters. and s byke it gains and It's and it is indeed up to four players. You can play with one player, but it's really much fun with like two or more um It's by Kit Fox Games. It came out in 2016. I pulled it up to look.
01:41:37
Speaker
i didn't know when it came out. But it's one of those games. The art style is pixel, but it does one of those things that we all want out of games that are nostalgic and retro, which is to not actually be like those old games, but just like our memory of those old games, like how they made us feel. That's what we really want, not like...
01:41:58
Speaker
what they were actually like. And so does that good job of you're playing a... So it's almost a roguelike. So the idea is you pick characters based on classes, you know, and you separate out by colors or whatever. And um you can be like a druid, you know...
01:42:17
Speaker
Or, like, fighter classes, that kind of thing. And um the world's going to end in, like, a a certain number of days. And, like, what's your goal? Presumably to stop it.
01:42:28
Speaker
Like, you don't know. There's this whole kind of, like, rich world and mythology kind of in it that you're slowly exploring. And you're leveling up. So it's like a side-scroller, you know, where you're doing little, like, A, B, whatever attacks.
01:42:43
Speaker
And um you're going on this you know, map that's almost like, you know, like Mario connected where you like go onto the map to then go into that level and you level up your character and stuff. And then when you reach the end, and character becomes a constellation in the sky and you like kind of permabuff, you know, in a, in the roguelike style of way that when your next characters start out, you know, and you can collect new classes and stuff like there's a bard class you can collect and they actually gave
01:43:16
Speaker
like Most of the characters have skills and you can upgrade them and gain new skills. And the bard has like, I don't know, fucking 50 songs. And I'm like, oh shit, like going through and they all do different stuff.
01:43:28
Speaker
So, you know, it's complicated. And each night you rest at the fire and you can decide if you like gaze into the stars or like random events happen. And it's such a fun journey. And it's procedurally generated.
01:43:40
Speaker
So the map is not the same every time, but there's general things like, Generally to the Southwest, there's, you know, X number of stuff. So you're exploring, you're trying to solve the mystery of what's going on and prevent the end of the world. And it's such a fun journey to do with like friends, you know, and family. Have you played it with like three or four players?
01:44:01
Speaker
Yes, I have. So I mostly played the most I played it I think, was with one friend and just two. But I have had several sessions of like four players like going through. And it's more like when a couple people came in to just add into, you know.
01:44:16
Speaker
Yeah, I've had this on my wish list since it was in Kickstarter. I've had my eye on this as an interesting game. I think it's something that I would like to play my fiancé and kid, but I've never played trigger on Yeah, think it sounds like the most adorable. Let me know if the three of you end up getting that and playing it, but that's kind of the perfect thing of it.
01:44:37
Speaker
think of it Yeah, that sounds fun. It's nice to hear like a a positive... like yes I played Boyfriend Dungeon by Kip Fox Games, which is very fun. That's been on my list. I'm like, that seems fun.
01:44:50
Speaker
It's like dating sim, but also dungeon crawling. I've never played a dating sim, and I don't think I would like them, but like this just cracked me up. I figured I'd enjoy it. I like dating s sims with twists, and this one's like, you're dating your weapons.
01:45:05
Speaker
It's great. Yeah. You might have fun looking. I had a very long list. I love couch co-op. It's something that is like, that's why I'm a Nintendo girly. It's why I never switched over to PC gaming when all my other friends were into it.
01:45:21
Speaker
um And so I had, I have a very long list, but you wanted something like lovers in a dangerous space time. And I think the closest, is heave ho this is a game where you are a little character who has a left arm and a right arm and that's it and you control them together and like your left shoulder button like a nightmare and your right one grips with the right hand so it's a little awkward it's a little like you know co-op or octodad or whatever where part of it is like it's a little tricky to control your character but
01:45:52
Speaker
It's really fun to play four player. You can either play competitively, which is fine, or you can play cooperatively where you're trying to like rate or you're trying to get to the end of the level. You're trying to collect coins. So you're platforming, but like,
01:46:07
Speaker
So it's like one of the like central mechanics you'll do is you'll have one person holding on to the level, and then they're holding hands with the next person who's holding hands with the next person who's holding hands with the next person. And you're swinging, and then the one person lets go, and the person on the other end of the chain has to grab the level on the other side of the gap.
01:46:25
Speaker
And so it's like very coordinated. You need to plan out what you're doing. And, and you know, it starts small and, you know, where most levels you can you can be on your own. And then it picks up where like you can really, you like you need to cooperate, um especially to get the coins.
01:46:41
Speaker
It has some mechanics that make it friendly. Like if one player is just a lot better than the others, if they get to the end goal, they can um grab a balloon that lets them like they can go fly back through the level and pick up players to grab onto the balloon. And it's a little unwieldy. But anyway, I think it's fun. And I think it's definitely something that you could enjoy little inebriated, um which also sounded like bonus points.
01:47:03
Speaker
Other ones that like obviously came to mind was Overcooked. I don't know if you've tried that. That might also just be frustrating. Yes, But you're running a kitchen together. Yeah, it's hilarious. Overcooked is incompatible with my personality and maybe also my colorblindness, as I recall. I don't know.
01:47:21
Speaker
Oh, no. i don't I don't remember if that was part of my beef with Overcooked. Wordplay. um But yeah, I did not care for that game much. I have so many more. I can send you the list afterwards, Ree, but I i want to mention one more, so I get i get two mentions on the show.
01:47:37
Speaker
Or three mentions on the show. Towerfall Ascension. This was an Ouya launch game. don't know if you remember what Ouya was. It used to be exclusive. Yeah, I was in hype about that. Now you get on Switch PC. It The Versus and the Co-op are both phenomenal. And the single-player time. Honestly, the entire game is phenomenal.
01:47:56
Speaker
It's by the lady who made ah Celeste. And it's got a lot of like smash melee inspiration. But anyway, you're archers. You're shooting each other. Everything dies in one hit.
01:48:08
Speaker
But you can do the air dodge to grab an arrow that's flying at you. And then all sudden it's in your inventory. And it shows your inventory of arrows above your character's head at all times. And so like it's usually very narrow. It's like you're holding like one to five arrows at a time. So you could try to burst somebody, you know. to But then all of a sudden you have no arrows and either have to go around the map or...
01:48:28
Speaker
You have to wait for somebody to shoot an arrow at you and you have to catch it. like So it's incredibly fun. The but multiplayer mode has all kinds of zany things like you know items and and and stage hazards and stuff like that.
01:48:42
Speaker
And then the cooperative mode, there's ah there's a full two-player story and a full four-player story where you're playing against like monsters. but Anyway, it is an extremely fun game. I think on Switch it it supports six players.
01:48:56
Speaker
Wow. Okay. That's quite a few. Okay. Ben. All right. I had to think about it pretty hard.
01:49:08
Speaker
I, well, I didn't actually, they there I went with the first thing that popped into my head, which was, well, but there were so many honorable mentions that I will, I will honorably mention at least one, ah maybe, maybe two.
01:49:23
Speaker
Yo, yo Lord of the Rings, Return of the King for the PlayStation 2. Pretty cool. That's not the one I'm going to do, but a pretty fun time. I played it several years later. It was still pretty fun.
01:49:37
Speaker
pretty Pretty fun to play with a friend. good Go in there, Legolas and Gimli, just fucking them. Uruk-hai and orcs and all those fools up. I think really they're only like Uruk-hai in a couple levels. I think mostly you encounter the Uruk-hai when you play as...
01:49:56
Speaker
Hobbits. But maybe maybe maybe in the Gandalf but missions, I think there's some Uruk-hai because I think i think you went on to Isengard. All right. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't telling anything false about this very fun game.
01:50:10
Speaker
But it's very fun. Gandalf's the best character. He's got a very good shield. Thank you. It's a pretty cool. Always to true. Hand-off situation at all times. No, no. That's the thing about wizards. They're never early, nor are they late.
01:50:25
Speaker
um But ah the the game that I did decide to go with, this is not an honorable mention. This is the the true ah true mention. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Splintered Fate.
01:50:38
Speaker
It's a roguelike Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game that originally came out for iOS, I believe. I played it after it was ported to Switch, because we have a Switch in our in our home. I don't really play with it much, but I played this one because guess what? It's basically just kind of mediocre co-op Hades, but guess what? The thing about Hades is...
01:51:01
Speaker
uh mediocre knockoffs are still very fun the formula is good the recipe is strong okay so this also there's a lot of stuff to like about this game it's it's got it's got some charms it's a little bit buggy and there are some things about it some things aren't perfectly balanced although i think there have been balanced patches also there's a new dlc out that i haven't played so like i'm looking forward to jumping back into that But it's a real fun game. Some of the music's cool. um The turtles play a little different. You know, I've got ah the I don't know their names. I'm not culturally a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles person. Like, you know, like I just wasn't wasn't raised in a in a turtles family.
01:51:41
Speaker
um That's just i don't know. I don't know. like I guess they're all names. You don't know the turtles. ah michael angelo donatello rafael i can list the four of the i just don't know which one's which i i'm very disappointed don't even know which turtle you would be was not raised in a turtles family i wasn't to watch turtles because it was considered too violent even though i was allowed to watch power rangers so i don't want know same same policy in my household doesn't make a lot of sense does it
01:52:13
Speaker
They were using to judge, but that only made them... violence in Power Rangers is, however, somehow more cartoonish than the cartoon violence that I've seen in a lot of cartoons. like Somehow, like it looks less like real violence than animated stuff. All you gotta do is bop them in their middle button and they disappear. Yep.
01:52:34
Speaker
was plays all yeahp It's a whole thing. we could We could go deep on Power Rangers if you ever want. um But not today. ah No.
01:52:45
Speaker
So I guess I've said most of what there was to say after, i guess... this devastating betrayal that I don't know which turtles are which. I mean, like, they do one of them has Sai. One of them's got a bo staff.
01:52:58
Speaker
ah One of them's got a katana. You'd probably be a Leonardo. What you think? One of them's got Nunchaku. ah don't know. I like the one with the bo staff. I like the one with the katana. like the one with the Nunchaku. The one with the Sai, he's my least favorite to play as.
01:53:17
Speaker
um But I guess I know Bebop and Rocksteady. That's good. Doesn't that count for anything anymore? Classic enemies the video game, yeah yeah. Oh, yeah. I also, I was not raised in a Turtles family, but I did play Turtles in Time socially at at a sleepover or two.
01:53:35
Speaker
Pretty fun game. All right. But I told you all about Splintered Fate, and it's a pretty fun time. it ah it You know, Hades is...
01:53:47
Speaker
pretty good at being Hades. Uh, if you're by yourself, you should probably just play Hades. But if you have a friend and you wanted to do roguelike stuff together, ah do, do it Turtles.
Secret Homework and Movie Discussion
01:53:59
Speaker
That's fun. If you like the turtles, especially rescue master splinter, ah he's been kidnapped or something. i don't know. The plot's not exactly front and center. Um,
01:54:11
Speaker
yeah There's not even a cutscene of Splinter getting kidnapped. you you just like You start the game and it's like, oh no, Splinter's been kidnapped! You don't even see this school get snatched. It's like... It really is just like it's for the gameplay and it's fun.
01:54:26
Speaker
yeah That's what matters most. I've played so much Castle Crashers that I saw you last time. I love cat crashers yeah i played the fuck Castle Crashers. Crashers is very fun.
01:54:38
Speaker
I like Castle Crashers. Oh, but now do I have to tell you about next week's secret homework? Yeah, you gotta sign next week's homework! Alright, so I feel like, for some reason, this this What If season, I mean, like it is because like you know the the things are in the patches like two months out, but like I feel like we've been talking about What If stuff, and I guess the show came out too, so...
01:55:00
Speaker
maybe Maybe there are multiple reasons that we've been talking about a lot of what-if stuff, and for some reason always seems appropriate and fitting that I should make the secret homework about a what-if thing, because what-if is apparently the only topic of interest to anyone ever. i like speculating.
01:55:14
Speaker
Leave the bag alone, buddy. Okay. All right. Anyway, so What if I didn't assign a secret homework that was about a what if thing? What if I followed Ree's lead and just solicited some recommendations?
01:55:29
Speaker
ah So there are a lot of movies out there. I haven't seen all of them. it was it It came up recently that I i haven't seen E.T., the extraterrestrial, at least not as an adult who remembers seeing it.
01:55:42
Speaker
I don't really know what happens in that movie. don't either think he's got a finger. There may have been some Reese's Pieces. um
01:55:52
Speaker
I've only seen it because shown it to my kid. That's the only reason I've seen it as an adult. Bicycles fly. Yeah, you're on the right track. Yes. Amblin. He wants to phone home. ah Yeah, I... Yep. End of ET knowledge list.
01:56:07
Speaker
So, I'm just saying, like, what's what's a movie you wish I'd seen? And... How will we know if you've seen it or not? I mean... yeah you can You can ask me if I've seen... Okay. I don't know.
01:56:21
Speaker
I'm not going to make myself available to... to I don't have a letterboxd. You can't find out what I have or have not seen. It's recommend movie. This one's just for my co-hosts. Recommend obscure movie? No, just not an obscure movie. A movie I haven't seen.
01:56:35
Speaker
So check check with me. Okay. ah we'll We'll be in contact throughout the week. Oh, this is cool. This will give me a chance to rewatch something.
01:56:47
Speaker
All right, I'm into it. And and if you can tie it to Marblesnap or something tangentially, just like anything in there. No, sorry, ahead. Also, would you like to know about my alternate homework assignment if you think this one is too silly?
01:57:00
Speaker
No, this is great. Here's how it is, though. then Because it used to be when I was younger, I'd see something I love. And also, to be fair, there were a fewer things I loved that when I was younger because there were just fewer things.
01:57:13
Speaker
But like I would see it and I'd go to my friends like, it, watch it, watch it, watch it, watch it, watch it, watch it, so we could talk about it. Have you seen Have you seen it? It's so good. You'll love it. You'll love it. You'll love And then when you get older, you just realize, and yeah it's like, no, just throw it on your pile. I get it. We all busy. We don't have time to watch all stuff. read I'm just saying this is good thing. and you know We like it and when you want you to talk about If you're doing this, then then you so you have to watch the movies we give you.
01:57:40
Speaker
And I personally will delight in the ability to, a robot chicken style, tape someone's eyelids open and force them to watch something. Just... I don't even care what it is. i just ah just delight from the the opportunity to do it after so quietly being polite about my recommendations.
01:58:01
Speaker
Shove this whatever movie, just shove it down my throat and oh yeah, it's got to be streaming. No, into your eyeballs, Craft Ribbley. ah i'm I'm not going to pirate it. i will only watch this movie legally on one of the streaming services that I have.
01:58:16
Speaker
Okay. so Also, there's live rares. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah the streaming services that are currently on the menu. ah Let's say Netflix, Disney Plus slash Hulu, um Peacock.
01:58:31
Speaker
I think i I'm going to keep that for about five more minutes. So get in while you can with those Peacock wrecks. I already said Netflix. assume ah Yes, I do currently have access to Max, although it's a little bit of a pain in the butt.
01:58:45
Speaker
um Yeah, I think that's it. My first choice would be on Max, so... all right well I have to find out if you've seen it. You're sooner because I have to ask if you've seen it.
01:58:58
Speaker
Oh, true. Yes, that's right. Okay, wait. what if we just What if we assign these early and then on the podcast we can talk about having seen them? Yeah, because we've all seen them. I'll rewatch whatever I assign.
01:59:14
Speaker
How about we talk about it the next week? I don't know. how about we How about we figure it out off the air is what we do. Two-week homework. Extended for the first time. i do like that.
01:59:27
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01:59:37
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01:59:55
Speaker
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02:00:22
Speaker
Um, So yeah, ah next week, what are we be doing next week? there's there's There's a new card coming. Kohori, I'm so excited. The third of the Power Buff Girls. If you want to hear what we think about her, tune in next week. Same snap time, same snap channel.
02:00:40
Speaker
Yeah. So I was actually, meant to tell you all about this alternate secret homework that like probably maybe is better. I don't know. It's also a little more what if themed.
02:00:50
Speaker
But like, okay. We'll save it for later, but let's hear it. You know... What if yeah there there are these like these Nexus events, these these these these canon moments or whatever that just they have to happen. Right.
02:01:06
Speaker
And like so let's say that the the canon event is that the three of us all host a podcast together. But the what if of it all is like, what if it was about something that wasn't Marvel Snap? So what would it be about?
02:01:22
Speaker
Even the moral step is what brought us together. That was my alternate assignment, and you know what? And then I was thinking we could do an episode of that and hide it on the hypothetical Patreon with my embarrassing story of vomit.
02:01:33
Speaker
want to create bumpers for it. Okay, sorry. It's a really fun idea to make an imaginary podcast, but then actually make an episode of it.
Hypothetical Podcast Ideas
02:01:44
Speaker
My comment corner would be metal, and it would be like...
02:01:49
Speaker
I'm not graded. I'm keeping things for this podcast. Only hypothetically.