Introduction and Episode Theme
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Welcome to Stay Sparked.
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We are three longtime friends here to share inspiration with you, aim to light you up.
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On today's episode, our topic was Ask Me Anything.
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We got to dig into some conversations to get to know each other better.
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Asking questions about our childhoods and our beliefs and how that shaped us to become the people we are today.
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Enjoy the episode.
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Hello friends out there.
Expressions of Gratitude
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We are so grateful to get to be here with you for another episode of Stay Sparked.
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And we always love starting with gratitude.
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So Halcyon, would you like to start us off?
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What are you grateful for today?
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I am feeling grateful for warm oceans.
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Got to bob in the sea recently and it just felt so, so, so good.
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So grateful for the ocean.
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Tis the season for swimming.
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So my gratitude for today for the last several days has been finally got my hands on the power affirmation deck and the inspiration cards from my good friend, Betsy Finklahu.
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And they are a fantastic way to start my day, get some good self-talk in, like my first thoughts of the day.
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It's making a difference.
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Well, that's going to be my gratitude then.
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I had a different gratitude, but now that is just, I'm so grateful that you have these cards and that you've been using them.
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That's what they're intended for.
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Oh, my heart feels happy.
Episode Format and Color Pink Fascination
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Awesome, you guys, well, we are really excited to have a unique conversation today.
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We appreciate all of you out there listening for over 60 episodes now.
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This has been kind of an experiment along the way, and we're going to continue with this
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the evolution of this creative, inspiring conversation.
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And today we decided that we want to get to know each other a little more fully and allow you guys out there to get to know us a little more fully by having a conversation that is lovingly termed, ask me anything.
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And so we are going to see what kind of questions pop up.
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We haven't shared with each other at all what questions that we want to know about each other, but we're going to dig in and we're going to just see what kind of sparks start coming alive in a conversation of Ask Me Anything.
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And so I'm going to start us off.
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This is one that I have been curious for some time and let's see if there's some insight that might come.
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This one's for you Halcyon.
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So if anyone out there knows John Halcyon and you follow him and you have been privy to his magic, which many, many, many people have, you know that he loves pink.
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I'm looking at his video right now.
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There's a pink wall, pink bedspread, pink art, pink light.
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He has a whole camp called Pink Heart.
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Pink, pink, pink, pink, pink parade, all the things pink.
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And so my curiosity really comes from where was the onset of the pink path?
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What really started you off in this sort of what seems like an obsession with this color?
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And so I'd love to, yeah, get to know a little more around where the pink started.
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I also have a pink RV and all the tile in my bathrooms is stained pink because of all the pink hair dye.
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It began about a little over 20 years ago at Burning Man.
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One year I made a bunch of outfits that were baby blue and pink and combining those two, just kind of exploring with aspects of sexuality and gender roles.
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And I found myself really drawn to just pink, pink, pink.
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And so I started wearing pink outfits at the burn and really just felt like lit up and it kind of felt a little...
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And then the next year I dyed my hair pink at the burn.
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And it just, it's, it's initially it was a, a pushing gender roles, you know, 20 plus years ago, a guy wearing a pink shirt was, you know, people would suspect that he must be gay.
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And so I really enjoyed being someone who identifies as straight, putting a presentation in the world that was questionable and forcing people to kind of question, you can't judge a book by its color.
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And yeah, and then it kind of grew and I became more identified with it.
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And I started to think of pink as being, having all the love energy of red without any of the aggression.
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And that we're all pink on the inside.
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So it just became, and plus just like kids and older people, everyone just feels comfortable around the color pink and it's kind of fun.
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So, and now I, it's easy to shop because I can go, do you have this in a neutral color or pink?
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And then if they don't, I don't, I can't buy it.
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It has definitely been beautiful to witness you claiming this, the frequency of color of pink.
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I love hearing that.
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Thank you so much for sharing a little backstory and
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It reminds me of one thing I want to share is I know someone who goes by Mr. Pink.
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I should connect you guys.
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And what his thing is, is he'll go to all kinds of events and festivals and gatherings and he paints himself totally pink hair and everything like totally pink.
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And I was talking to him one day and he shared with me that he tried out different colors.
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and he got different responses depending on the color that he was painting himself and he landed on pink and became mr pink because the pink really was the thing that brought connection he said people opened up to him more it felt safer it was more playful it was lighter like when he wore he painted himself red people thought he was scary
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and they were more averse to him same with some of the darker black colors and that sort of thing and so it is we do respond to colors there's there's something
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I wonder if we, if we met each other, would we become instant friends or would we fight?
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Simply based on the visceral, like somebody else's pain.
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It's like, it's like, no, it's like be like Highlanders.
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Like there can be only one.
Beliefs and Mindfulness
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Well, that actually leads me into my question.
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Betsy, do you believe in free will?
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because i'm inspired by the uh the mr pink thing well how people just respond to them based on color it's like it's almost like it kind of bypasses your like your conscious awareness and just hits you right with like oh i'm just triggering so do you believe in free will betsy finkel who well my initial response is of course
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I feel one of my affirmations, as you know, affirmations are a huge part of my life and daily.
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One of the ones that I keep coming back to is my will connected to divine well in service to a better world and service to the planet and service to balance harmony, wholeness.
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And so I really practice and connect to that balance of my own will.
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connecting to my solar plexus, what are the actions that I'm going to take today that come from my sense of self, that come from like that grounded connection to my own personal will in relationship to something much bigger than what I could even see, right?
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In relation to the frequencies around me, right?
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The frequency of pink, for example.
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How do I respond to it from my own sense of self?
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That's kind of my.
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All over the place.
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So I want to hear this from both of you guys, but I'm really curious.
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Would you describe the kind of person you were in high school and were you sexually active at the time?
High School Reflections and Sexual Awakening
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Betsy, you go first.
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Describe who I was in high school.
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Well, maybe some of my high school friends are listening.
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And hopefully this is accurate because you know how it is when you're like in the experience.
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I would say I was the type of person that was, I was exploring different personas and trying on different ways of being.
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I had a lot of sort of quote unquote preppy friends for a while and that felt really good to me.
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But then I also went into the grunge
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realm also where you know i was wearing the flannel and the you know t-shirt the concert t-shirts um my sisters were really grunge and so i kind of like wanted to be like them and so i tried that on and i smoked a lot of pot when i was young in high school and everything um and then i also kind of like went into like the raver category um which was kind of fun to get to explore
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in my teenage years.
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But then I also kind of like made friends with some of the, like I said, the popular kids.
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I like, you know, was voted for a homecoming queen.
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And so I like kind of like played in that realm.
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Like today, one of the things that I really valued was being friends with all the different types of people.
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I was not in one particular clique or group.
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I really love getting to be friends with many different circles.
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broad breaststroke.
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Yes, I definitely was.
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It was an exploration of my own coming into my femininity and my own sexuality.
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I've reflected quite a bit on that part of my life, that time in my life, and I have actually had some pretty significant insights around how society
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imprinted some of my thoughts around sex, which is very unfortunate.
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I look back and I see the movies that I was watching at that age, and many of us were watching, and they're like teenager kind of movies that portrayed sex to be...
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you know, infused with manipulation and betrayal and rape and all of these dark things that come along with it.
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Very rare were there movies that would portray like healthy sex, healthy romance, of course, there's all these romance movies, but when it came down to like the getting down and dirty, it was always pretty dark.
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So that's really kind of
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I'm glad that I could see it now.
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And I also feel like at that time in my life, I also got a chance to connect with different people that were some people that were like very sexually active, and some people that were just virgins all the way through.
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And so that was really a powerful kind of reflection for me and looking at where did I fit in.
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I had a boyfriend for two and a half years, my high school sweetheart.
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And so we got to really be in our exploration of discovering our sexuality together, which I'm so grateful for.
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We learned so much together during that time.
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And so, yeah, well, insight into the young teenage version of Betsy.
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Thank you for sharing, Betsy.
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Me, you can do best.
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I'll keep it short.
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I was pretty popular.
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I was always popular because I was funny.
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And I was voted as class clown my senior year.
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And I was also into athletics, focusing on basketball once I got to high school.
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And our team was pretty good.
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If you were like on the, you know, it was the best basketball team we had in like 27 years in the school.
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So, so we're, you know, everybody was like, we were very popular as a result and sports are just popular in general.
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So that combined with being the class clown, I had a lot of friends.
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So, although being one of the very few non-white students in a student body, it's a pretty small school, maybe 700, 800 students total.
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And I was one of maybe less than, certainly less than 10.
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non-white students there so um but overall it was pretty good and that also it was a rural uh you know community so be if i had dated anybody from uh my school it might it might have looking back on it it might have been a bit of a scandal um just because this that's not the kind of thing that a proper girl would do it's you know
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date somebody like me.
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So there was that.
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And plus, I was also a little shy when it came to stuff like that.
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See, my first kiss, I was 15.
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First, like French kiss was 15.
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And I was just like shocked that it happened in the moment.
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I didn't lose my, I almost made it out of high school before I lost my virginity.
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I think I finally lost my virginity in April of my senior year.
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So I almost graduated high school without that.
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I made out a few times, never with a girl from my school, or once with a girl from my school, always girls from different schools.
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So that was interesting to kind of think back on.
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So yeah, it wasn't for lack of want to, or it was any lack of effort.
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That's just how it shook out.
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So yeah, that was my high school experience in those two realms.
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Memorable, fun, overall, and yeah.
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Thankfully, not a lot in the way of regrets.
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I lost my virginity on May, my senior year on prom night.
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I unfortunately was like many young women at the time.
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My first time was not consensual.
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And so that's really an unfortunate thing that happens far too often in our culture.
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And I have done a lot of work around it and have come to some very powerful healing places within myself and have gotten to connect with many other women who have experienced that.
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I think there's a pretty high number, unfortunately.
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So hopefully that's changing.
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But I was part of that.
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So, yeah, I feel, I feel that that is changing and a lot of it is starting with, um, the awareness that we have to raise our boys better.
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And I really feel like that seems that does seem to be happening.
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Um, not nearly as widespread as it, as it should be perhaps, but I do, I do see a lot more of that now than, uh, than ever, frankly.
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the awareness that we have to teach our teacher, raise our boys better.
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So with that, we'll hopefully, you know, translate through all the way to how boys interact with girls as well.
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What it comes down to, what I see is big part is healthy conversations from parents to children around sexuality, you know, to be able to have a conversation as an adult with a young person as they're coming into their sexuality.
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and to know how to inform children or preteens, teenagers around, you know, emotional connection, responsibility, the physical parts of, you know, healthy, staying healthy, safe sex, those sorts of things.
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You know, I remember in, you know, my teenage years, we just watched a video in high school that was basically, you know, promoting abstinence.
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It's like, didn't teach us anything really, except that sex was bad.
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you know, and then my parents didn't really know how to talk to me about sex because their parents didn't really talk to them about sex.
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And so there's a lot of just limited education from my experience.
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And so I feel like the more parents that are willing to lean into those kinds of conversations and also ask for help from other adults or other professionals on how to speak to children,
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I actually have a friend, Erin Delaney, she teaches people how to talk to their teenagers and preteens to have healthy sex conversations.
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It's so powerful, so important.
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If that's one thing that parents can do that can make such a huge difference.
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I wasn't in a like,
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relationship that was sexually active until after graduating from college.
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And I look back now and see how much of
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my sexuality was expressed in relationships with people who were really struggling with self-esteem, you know, and were engaging in sex because they wanted to feel better.
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And it's been interesting looking back at how many consensual sexual experiences I've had that,
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We're not fully healthy, you know, that if I look back and go, that probably was not the best thing for that person, probably not for me either, but that we were seeking things that because of our ignorance, you know, and our lack of self-awareness, we were, we,
Advice to Teenage Selves
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seeking reaching and and I look back and with some some regret you know of if I wish I would have known better and maybe treated people better not knowing that they were saying yes to things that maybe they didn't really want.
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So powerful well that sparks a question that I have for all of us.
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If you could go back and whisper something in the ear of your 17 year old self
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what would that message be what would you want to tell your 17 16 17 year old self i think i would say the world that you are going to live in is totally different than the world you live in now and that you have no idea
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the things that are gonna excite you, the person you're gonna be, the identity you're gonna grow into.
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And that so to be, not be too attached to what you see as scary or what you see as difficult and just to kind of hold on and be open to possibilities that the current reality doesn't even give you hints of yet.
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Wise words, wise words to your teenage self.
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I would probably say something along the lines of that you are a good person now.
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You are going to love the person you are becoming, that you will become.
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And don't drink alcohol.
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And that's probably, I'd probably sum it up with that.
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That's a good one.
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I probably would say something similar to like, just don't.
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What about you, Betsy?
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I think I would say invest in Google, Amazon, Tesla.
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Put some money there, babe.
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I think about the tech that was happening when we were that age.
Aging with Vitality
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But yeah, I think I would also say something along the lines of just because everyone else is drinking alcohol doesn't mean that you have to.
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I would also say something along the lines of start studying what mindfulness is.
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I think that would have been a very different path if I would have discovered what mindfulness is when I was 17.
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And then I think I would also let her know, hey, you're much more powerful than you give yourself credit for.
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You know, back in those days, I had no idea.
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And so, and I think I would probably also just give myself little reminders to be kind and
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be be even kinder um there are certain moments in my teenage years where I could have been a lot more kind to my dad he was going through a lot and I just was you know 17 year olds kind of get wrapped up in their world and it's like all about me and it's like I had no idea that he was going through so much at that time and I just was a little a little brat sometimes so I say hey hey Betsy you can be kind
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think that would make a really big difference great advice okay follow-up question do you currently feel like a grown-up and what age do you feel like inside good one especially as i'm about to be on my birthday my birthday's next week that's right on 77 so i've been in a lot of contemplation around this actually uh so
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I definitely feel like a kid inside.
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I'm so grateful that I still have the capacity to play with myself.
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You know, I look at little kids on the beach and they can just like throw rocks and dig in the sand and be totally entertained and play.
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And I'm the same way.
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And I'm so glad that I have that inner child that is expressed and I'm happy to twirl.
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It's really easy for me to get into a place of just like
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being that free spirit of childlike innocence.
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And I also do feel I feel decently accomplished as the adult version of myself.
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I feel really grateful of this age that I'm in.
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I am about to turn 42.
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And I feel 42 feels young to me.
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I feel grateful that I feel healthy.
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I feel like when I turned 38, I claimed, I said, okay, you know what?
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I am just going to keep getting healthier and more radiant and more beautiful as I age.
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And I have over the past years, I feel like I have developed some really healthy practices that I feel stronger than ever.
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I feel more integrated in my sense of self and, um,
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I'm definitely not over the hill.
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Yeah, I can vouch for that.
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Yeah, I do feel like, yeah, I do feel like a grown up.
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I want to kind of, although I also want to warn people, like, don't grow up.
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You know, it's a trap.
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I want to tell kids when I see them, like, don't do it.
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Don't fall for it.
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But yes, I feel grown up in the good ways.
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in all the good ways and having a having a fairly newborn son he's almost eight months i'm really looking forward to i'm enjoying the time now for sure and i'm also looking forward to when he's like a little boy like running around being a boy um i'm really looking forward to uh play time with him and
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you know, exploring, running around in the woods like Calvin and Hobbes and just getting in all sorts of trouble and walking over like tree bridges over like creeks and things like that and just being around and playing.
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I'm really, that's going to really, I can feel now that that's going to really reactivate the kid in me and we're going to, you know, really have a lot of fun together.
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So, yeah, looking forward to that.
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How about you, Halcyon?
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I, so I'm just turned 53 and there are certainly times that I feel and acknowledge that I'm a grownup.
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It's, you know, post 50 is now I have a mortgage now.
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I mean, I feel like I finally in a mature grownup relationship.
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So I'm more grownup than I've ever been, but really like I'm often in my head, if I don't think about it, I'm like 24.
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And I'll be in a room of people and there's a part of me that just considers myself a kid who's just out of college and figuring things
Dream Countries to Live In
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And I have sometimes I have to be like, dude, you have way more experience than anybody in this room.
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Why don't you say something like, oh, yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
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So it's a I definitely go back and forth of of feeling, damn, I'm old and.
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I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
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I want to I want to take a still of the video right now, the shot of Halston with his pink hair and his sleepless shirt and his pink room.
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And I'm more grown up than I've ever been.
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If anything, you are a role model for how to stay youthful as you age.
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You really do bring a lightness of spirit and color and vibrancy of life.
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And I really have the Burning Man and Burning Man community to thank for so many examples of people never stopping playing, never stopping their curiosity, never stopping their expression.
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You know, like the idea of
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you know, oh my gosh, she's too old to wear that.
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It's like, that is to me, that is like such a clear example of somebody being trapped in, you know, default thinking.
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And luckily I have so many people in my life and community that shatter any of those types of, of statements or beliefs and that allows for a nonstop play.
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I will say that, that,
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there have been times in my life when I was a little bit in Peter Pan syndrome and was resistant to healthy aspects of growing up.
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So I think that the goal is to, you know, retain your child tendencies while you also grow into your wisdom and maturity.
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I've got a a maybe it's deceptively easy question for you guys, but we'll see if you have to live in a country besides the United States and you couldn't leave, you have to stay there for the remainder of your days.
00:28:24
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Which country would you choose?
00:28:33
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It's relatively easy.
00:28:37
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That's a really tricky one.
00:28:38
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Yeah, it can be tricky.
00:28:40
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For me, I mean, just going with those, there's so many countries I would like to visit, and maybe the right answer would be a country I haven't visited yet.
00:28:47
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But sticking with the ones that I've been to, for me, it's narrowed down between, I'd say, Thailand and Italy.
00:28:56
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two very different countries, but both fantastic in my experience and in very similar ways.
00:29:01
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I might probably go with Thailand just because being tropical for the remainder of my days sounds pretty good.
00:29:10
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Sounds pretty yummy.
00:29:12
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So, but yeah, maybe Thailand for me.
00:29:16
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I really love New Zealand.
00:29:18
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I could definitely just enjoy New Zealand, but considering the extended part of that question that you could never leave, that would be a little hard because then I wouldn't be able to see a lot of the people that I love dearly that live all over the world because it's quite far.
00:29:37
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But visiting New Zealand, one of my favorite places on the planet, such a special, special place.
00:29:42
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I have some dear soul family there as well.
00:29:47
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But yeah, I think Portugal seems to be pretty nice.
00:29:52
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I'd love to live there.
00:29:53
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I know some people there too that are just really thriving and enjoying that beautiful land there.
00:30:00
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Yeah, I'm sure that it's not a tropical place.
00:30:04
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I've yet to find the weather, the environment that is someplace that I would like to live forever, including where I live now.
00:30:13
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So I will start my first country tour as soon as possible, and then I will move there forever and never come back.
00:30:23
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I don't like that part of the question.
00:30:27
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I want to stay with people.
00:30:30
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Well, I have a question that might be sort of connected.
00:30:33
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I have written this one down.
00:30:34
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This one's for you, Halcyon, specifically.
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And I'll give some context.
Growth Through Public Sharing
00:30:40
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I feel deeply inspired by the way that you share yourself so publicly.
00:30:44
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You have for a very long time.
00:30:46
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You've shared on our podcast about the journey that you've been on, being on some of the first reality TV shows, and just really being so publicly seen.
00:30:59
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And, uh, you know, these days you're doing everyday love mornings, you're on all the time, you're sharing so much of yourself.
00:31:07
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One of the things that I was so curious about is, uh, have you ever done a digital detox?
00:31:14
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And if so, how did, how long did you go and anything else that you can share on, uh, the practice of putting yourself out there so fully?
00:31:28
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I mean, I haven't really done a legitimate detox.
00:31:35
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When I got sober from intoxicants about a year and a half ago and did a whole bunch of deep looking at my identity and realizing how much of my identity is tied into publicly sharing, I've been questioning, you know, how
00:31:51
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how healthy and how much is this a part of who I want to be.
00:31:58
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Because as I dug in deep, there's an aspect of the sharing that is looking and needing feedback, needing people to say, we like you, we like you.
00:32:11
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And so I've been in deep inquiry as to is this a healthy expression and is this what I want to continue doing and but there's also a part of it for me that really feels like it's part of my Dharma like I can remember my early days on the Internet sharing a story that was very revealing.
00:32:29
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and getting emails in 97, 98 from men who are like, oh my gosh, you're talking about something that no one has, I thought I was the only one.
00:32:38
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And I got this like full body electricity that I've only had like three times in my life where I was just like, whoa, like, okay, something is happening.
00:32:46
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And I felt like I'm supposed to do this.
00:32:48
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I'm supposed to share as a way to connect with people and hopefully have people witness my expression and vulnerability as a way to access their own maybe vocabulary that they haven't touched on or feelings they haven't been able to express yet.
00:33:06
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And so that has been really a driving force is that I feel confident enough that I can share.
00:33:12
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And I've done enough work in that recognize and so many teachers like Ram Dass and Byron Katie and Alan Watts.
00:33:22
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And it is like, if you are truly being real and true, you are free, like you are invincible.
00:33:32
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So I feel pretty, if I can really access that, I feel free.
00:33:41
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And so because of that, I really feel like a part of my purpose is to keep doing that, keep sharing it.
00:33:47
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So in this post sobriety awareness of like, oh, there's an unhealthy aspect to the sharing.
00:33:55
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I'm trying to also share that.
00:33:57
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I'm sharing that process of like, okay, I'm having this doubt.
00:34:00
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I'm having this questioning of, is this a healthy process?
00:34:02
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Because even that,
00:34:04
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falls under that category of my dharma of sharing the process.
00:34:08
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So it's a huge part of my thoughts and my purpose.
00:34:14
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And I also recognize that a digital detox would probably be really, really good for me.
00:34:23
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Thank you so much.
00:34:24
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I love getting to learn about your process.
00:34:31
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And I'll say that there's an interesting part of it, which is that I live in a world where I am in relationships all the time.
00:34:41
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And no one else has consented to having all of their thoughts and their lives shared.
00:34:47
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And so it's an interesting process of...
00:34:49
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you know, as I learn things from other people or as, you know, as every relationship is a classroom, how do I stay in integrity and also honor boundaries of other people?
00:35:01
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Or like, if I tell a love story when I'm super high on all the bliss of it, is it fair to not share the struggles?
00:35:10
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And it gets a little complicated and there's, but I, you know, very early on learned that you have every right to tell your story
00:35:21
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Telling someone else's story is never okay.
00:35:27
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So I just mentioned a couple of my inspiring teachers.
00:35:32
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I'm wondering if you guys could list a few, whether they're people that you studied with that you knew or people that you've read that just come, are like your frequent guiding lights of wisdom teachers that you've had.
Influential Teachers and Mentors
00:35:49
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Yeah, I can just right off hand, kind of just scattershot off the top of my head.
00:35:58
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Malcolm X was very inspiring for the younger me, continues to be.
00:36:06
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I would say you can put to a slightly lesser extent, well, same but different.
00:36:13
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Martin Luther King Jr., also good.
00:36:22
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Anais Nin has said some of the smartest things I've ever heard anyone say.
00:36:29
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She's phenomenal, especially when it comes to just the way she sees the world and when it comes to relationships and how deeply she feels.
00:36:35
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Frida Kahlo as well.
00:36:38
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Also very inspiring in numerous ways.
00:36:42
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Spiritually speaking, definitely had a moment with like, you know, Eckhart Tolle.
00:36:49
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Right when I consider the time of my life where I was really starting to open up spiritually.
00:36:57
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Eckhart Tolle, Ram Dass, so many of the Hay House writers and speakers really had a lot to open my eyes to and kind of feel like they set me on the path.
00:37:17
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I'll probably just leave it there.
00:37:17
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It's probably I can go through another like 10 or 20 of them.
00:37:20
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But those are the ones that come off the jump off the top of my mind for me.
00:37:26
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Some good ones there.
00:37:30
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I would say that some of the people that have really impacted me and inspired me over the years and I've learned from, I would say, Gwenka.
00:37:42
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He's probably one of my first.
00:37:44
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He is the man responsible for bringing the Vipassana teachings to the West.
00:37:49
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I learned so much from his discourse.
00:37:51
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He's passed, so much of his teachings come through his video recordings.
00:37:57
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And so I've learned so much from his wisdom.
00:38:04
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So she is definitely one of my
00:38:08
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She's also passed, but I remember reading her You Can Heal Your Life book many years ago, and she just has continued to inspire me with so much of her wisdom and insight.
00:38:24
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I got introduced to Wayne Dyer at a young age when my mom was reading Wayne Dyer, and so a lot of the good teachings from him.
00:38:33
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um and then personally i had some really really incredible teachers at my school that i went to for massage therapy so i would give some shout outs to those some of those special teachers that really helped me to understand the body more efficiently my anatomy teacher illuminated me so much
00:38:56
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That was a really powerful teaching and I'm so grateful for just so much that I learned that I could have never imagined going to massage therapy school would have taught me.
00:39:06
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Yeah, I'll leave it at that.
00:39:13
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I want to add two to my list, which is one is my grandfather, Grandpa Caleb.
00:39:18
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I get to spend a lot of time with him as a retired minister and just really I get to witness kind of walking the walk in a powerful way.
00:39:25
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And the other is a guy named Jacob Glass, who does the lectures on A Course in Miracles related things.
00:39:31
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And I went to see him every week for about 10 years, either went to him or would listen to the lecture.
00:39:38
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a very significant teacher for me because he is someone who he's not especially ambitious.
00:39:46
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He shows up and speaks his message.
00:39:50
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And he's very funny and just...
00:39:55
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not attached to becoming anything except being genuine.
00:40:00
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And I found that so liberating because so many times I would see people, you know, with impressive marketing and things and often feel like I should want to do that and be bigger and to see someone who is who I really respect just
00:40:16
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showing up, just continually showing up and trusting that he will be of service in the way that, you know, God wants him to.
00:40:23
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I just found that to be so profoundly impactful to me.
00:40:27
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So thank you, Jacob Glass.
00:40:30
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Of course, there's more and more teachers that are popping.
00:40:33
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It's like when you're teaching.
00:40:35
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Maybe the separate episode.
00:40:37
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Jesus, Buddha, Paramahansa Yogananda, Krishna.
00:40:46
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Yeah, that might be
Crystals and Healing
00:40:47
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Like we can talk about all our inspirations, the people that have sparked us on our path.
00:40:52
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Autumn Sky, the artist, so many singers, songwriters that have just taught me so much.
00:41:00
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I have a variety in the inspiration question, which is, Betsy, can you explain how crystals make your life better?
00:41:13
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I'm holding one right now, actually.
00:41:15
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You guys can't quite see it, but this is called a Lestio Light.
00:41:20
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I keep crystals around me all the time.
00:41:22
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How do they make my life better?
00:41:27
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There is something just so mystical and
00:41:33
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mysterious about the way in which crystals make a positive impact on my life.
00:41:40
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I remember when I first started collecting crystals and I was like, why do I love these so much?
00:41:46
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Is it because they're pretty?
00:41:48
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Why do I just like having them around me?
00:41:51
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And I thought it was kind of weird.
00:41:53
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But then I actually just started noticing how good I feel around certain crystals and being attracted to certain ones.
00:42:00
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And then I started to actually learn about the differences between them and why surgeon ones do certain things.
00:42:07
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Um, so I can start to speak a little bit more about how now I've used them and I do see, um,
00:42:15
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Selenite, for example, is a stone that's very clarifying and purifying.
00:42:22
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It cleanses and clears, has these striations in it that is known to move energy through it.
00:42:28
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So as a body worker and a healer, I use selenite often to help with clearing energy from my system, first and foremost, and
00:42:36
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and also helping, it helps my clients to be able to clear their own space as well.
00:42:43
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I'll say that also sacred space, the crystals contribute to beautiful sacred spaces.
00:42:53
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They just really do.
00:42:53
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They bring a powerful energy.
00:42:56
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I can't say like enough about the impact of having crystals in a room, in an office, in a
00:43:06
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healing space anywhere.
00:43:10
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I mean, this is another episode too.
00:43:12
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I'd love to, I can talk about crystals all day long.
00:43:17
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I probably have too many of them at this point.
00:43:23
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Do you have crystals?
00:43:24
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I mean, besides the one that I gave you,
00:43:28
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I have, but I, I, I don't have quite the, the relationship that I witness in you.
00:43:33
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I, I like them around.
00:43:35
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I kind of, to me, it feels like having fresh flowers.
00:43:39
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But I don't like fresh cut flowers.
00:43:40
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I like live plants and crystals as like, you know, an environment.
00:43:44
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So it's, it's, it's a, a vague appreciation, but not like a, Oh, I need to grab my selenite because I'm feeling blank, you know?
00:43:52
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I couldn't feel that.
00:43:53
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I mean, maybe it's because I've also been doing healing work for a long time.
00:43:58
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And I'm a little bit more sensitive to energy and I could feel them a little more.
00:44:04
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You know, like I said many years ago, and I was like, why do I like these?
00:44:07
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I hadn't cultivated the subtle awareness practices that I have now.
00:44:15
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yeah i remember the very first crystal i ever got was gifted to me by a little girl at the joshua tree music festival she just came up out of nowhere with the smoky quartz that was big in her tiny hands but she just ran up out of nowhere and she's like you're supposed to have this and i was like oh thank you and as soon as she handed to me like i could feel like this like vibrating in my i had no like
00:44:41
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This is my very first experience with crystals and even awareness of like crystals.
00:44:46
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And I could just feel this thing vibrating in my hand that I thought for a second that it was, there was a battery in it or something.
00:44:52
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I'm like, what is this thing she gave me?
00:44:53
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I'm like, oh, it's just a straight up crystal.
00:44:55
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I'm like, oh, that's cool.
00:44:57
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And I've had this thing ever since, but I felt like I had lost this thing a couple of times.
00:45:04
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where I just gave it up for being lost and had moved, like moved my home.
00:45:09
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And then it would appear like underneath something like, like, like it would have fallen out of something, I guess.
00:45:17
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But it was like this, just weird.
00:45:18
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This has this crystal has a way of reappearing and disappearing and reappearing and disappearing.
00:45:23
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And, and yeah, I still got it.
00:45:25
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It's like when I've got several crystals now, that's definitely one that I, it's still, still one of my favorites.
00:45:31
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like popped into other dimensions and then came back.
00:45:33
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I've had that same experience with certain crystals.
00:45:35
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Like whatever happened in that one crystal and then it's gone for years and then comes back.
00:45:43
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They're wonderfully mysterious.
00:45:45
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You know, like that question around how they work is like, I really don't know, but they're doing something.
00:45:51
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You know, it's really amazing.
00:45:53
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We had someone come and speak on the Community Speaker Series stage some years ago, who is a master crystal intuitive and collector and he's his name is Phil.
00:46:05
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He has a crystal shop and he speaks to the science of crystals and how they work.
00:46:10
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So there is there's definitely a science behind it, too.
00:46:20
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Well, so I feel like we can probably start to wrap
Importance of Questions and Curiosity
00:46:25
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We probably could just like get together and just keep asking each other questions.
00:46:29
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This is a really fun way to get to know each other.
00:46:33
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A little spark for those of you out there, if you are listening.
00:46:38
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Ask each other questions.
00:46:40
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Ask your friends questions to inquire deeper.
00:46:43
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It's so powerful to create a space to understand each other and be curious about each other, about where we've come from, what we've experienced, what we believe in, especially if it's about certain things like that we're talking about here today that don't create division.
00:47:03
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There's a lot of questions we can inquire with each other these days.
00:47:06
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I'm glad we didn't talk about politics or religion or anything that might be potentially triggering.
00:47:12
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There's a lot of those kind of conversations.
00:47:14
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But when we want to create deeper connection with people, then we get to choose mindfully on the questions that we ask.
00:47:21
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And on that note, we are interested in our listeners curiosity.
00:47:27
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So if you all out there have any questions for us, we would love to receive some of your inquiries.
00:47:36
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And if we receive enough
00:47:38
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messages and enough questions, then we're going to go public and do an episode that is ask us anything.
00:47:46
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So feel free to give us a little shout out and either the email or on our Instagram or personally, if you know us, feel free to send out a little question for us, something you'd like to know, something you'd like to hear us talk about.
00:48:04
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So any closing sparks, closing questions percolating?
00:48:11
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I got so many more questions, but I'll hold on to them.
00:48:14
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But my clothing spark is kind of a follow up to what you're talking about of asking questions of friends in social situations in that it is the easiest and best way to be liked is to, if you are in a social situation, if you have any social anxiety, the fastest way to connect with someone and to
00:48:39
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remove any disconnection is to start asking them questions.
00:48:43
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Everybody's favorite topic is themselves.
00:48:45
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You can, I just had an experience about a month ago at a party where a woman walked up to me, started talking to me, and I just nodded for about 20 minutes.
00:48:55
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And afterwards she goes, I knew we were going to be good friends and then walked away.
00:48:58
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I'm like, I didn't say a word, but just kind of kept kind of nodding.
00:49:04
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And so you can, if you are in any situation where
00:49:08
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just questions about someone's past, what they care about, who their powerful teachers.
00:49:14
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A lot of the questions that we talked about here with our close friends are great ways to go from how's the weather to potentially having a real connection with somebody.
00:49:22
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Yes, it really is so meaningful.
00:49:25
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I've also felt the opposite.
00:49:27
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You know, I have had relationships with certain people that like
00:49:31
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If there's never a question in my direction, then I start to carry a belief that they really don't care about me.
00:49:38
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They don't really care what's going on in my life.
00:49:41
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There's just very little interest.
00:49:43
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And then I start to actually recognize that the relationship is out of balance.
00:49:47
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And I prefer to spend time with people that have a balance, right?
00:49:52
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Where I'm curious about who they are and they're curious about me and we're curious about each other's lives.
00:49:57
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It is so important, I believe, to have harmony in relationships that we inquire and let each other know that we care what's happening for each other.
00:50:06
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It's very powerful.
00:50:10
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On that note, kind of tying both those together is, yeah, is the notion of staying curious, whether it's about
00:50:18
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you know, your friends or strangers, the world around us.
00:50:21
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Like, I wonder, oh, I wonder what that's like, even when I'm driving around town, I just moved to a new neighborhood for me, new to me and still learning it.
00:50:29
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But there's times where I'm going home and I know how to go home.
00:50:32
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I'm like, oh, but I wonder what's down that street.
00:50:35
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And I'll just go down these streets and I'll find these like,
00:50:39
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cool little like spots or neighborhoods.
00:50:42
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And there was a moment where I was up in San Luis Obispo a couple of weeks ago and I
00:50:49
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um was on my way to a coffee shop where i knew it was but then i saw that they had a different location i'm driving by i'm like oh but there's another location there oh i wonder what that one's like and so i just pulled into that one and ran into an old friend that i hadn't seen in like 10 plus years there and it's like and now we've cultivated things now i've got a con now we've reconnected and i've got a place to stay in santa busapispo as opposed to like having to stay at a hotel every time i go up there so that's uh
00:51:13
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So staying curious has its benefits that are far beyond what we might expect.
00:51:19
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So yeah, stay curious, people.
00:51:23
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I got one more spark I have to share, which is that one of my mantras is there's nothing more beautiful than a human being revealing their truth.
Sharing Truth for Connection
00:51:31
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And that if you can go into your inquiry questions with that mentality, and sometimes you need to lead or give an example of a vulnerable share, but if you can respond to someone and really acknowledge that if someone is telling you anything truthful about who they are, they are giving you treasure.
00:51:51
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And if you can listen from that place and people can feel that, it is a powerful place for people to grow.
00:51:59
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And when you, that's what you want, your friendships and your community to be a place where like, we trust each other and we acknowledge that there is no boasting, there is no facade that is gonna be anywhere near as beautiful as your truth.
00:52:13
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So thank you both for sharing your truth with all of us.
00:52:16
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Oh, yes, thank you for being a catalyst and such an inspiration.
00:52:21
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for getting this out there.
00:52:23
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And thank you all out there for listening, for letting us know that you're listening.
00:52:28
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It's been really wonderful to have some great conversations with many of you.
00:52:33
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Thank you, Kyra Elise, especially for giving us some reviews and feedback.
00:52:37
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Thank you, Tonya Raven, Jennifer Taylor, just giving some shout outs to some of our
00:52:43
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amazing listeners.
00:52:44
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It's really fuel for our fire.
00:52:46
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So we look forward to continuing these conversations and following the inspiration of evolution.
00:52:52
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So a little seed to plant for those of you who have listened to this whole episode, knowing that we are going to start welcoming more people onto our show very soon.
00:53:02
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We're excited to expand this conversation and see what other kind of sparks start to come through from talking to some of you out there.
00:53:12
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So that is to come.
Listener Gratitude and Engagement
00:53:14
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But for now, I think we can close it out as a little reminder for anyone out there that wants to learn more about our work.
00:53:21
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You can find me on poweraffirmation.com.
00:53:24
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You can find me on my Instagram, Betsy Who.
00:53:27
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You can learn more about the work that I do with my clients one-on-one and the group work that I do.
00:53:32
Speaker
And also, as Giannis mentioned in the beginning, the Power Affirmation cards and journals.
00:53:40
Speaker
And you can find my morning broadcasts and gratitude circles and t-shirts and goodies at lifestudent.com.
00:53:47
Speaker
And if you are a burner or no burners, I have a new Instagram account called burner prep.
00:53:53
Speaker
So hopefully get you all excited about the upcoming extravaganza.
00:53:59
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00:54:13
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It is a super, super help.
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helpful to get you back on track or to keep you on track.
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So, and speaking of my, my new power affirmation deck, which I enjoy every day, Betsy, could you send us off with a solid affirmation for our day?
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A good reminder for us to focus our thoughts in a direction that we so choose rather than letting the monkey mind just keep going, going, going.
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The affirmation today that is alive is I am willing to stay curious.
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I am willing to stay curious.
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I am willing to stay curious.
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I am willing to stay curious.
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I allow curiosity to guide my focus, my actions, my life.
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I am curiously exploring my truth.
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I am curiously exploring my relationships.
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I am continuously staying curious to the unfolding of life.
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Thank you all for listening.
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Stay Sparked, people.
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Thanks so much for helping us spread these sparks.