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"Gratitude Live" #92 (special episode)

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In this special in-person episode of Stay Sparked, Betsy and John Halcyon team up for a live Hug Nation broadcast all about gratitude as a daily practice – even in hard times.

Together we explore:

Practical Woo & Sobriety
How opening to “practical woo” helped John in early sobriety, and why being willing to admit “I don’t know what’s best for me” can change everything.

💧 Water as Medicine
From water ceremonies to hurricanes and RV life, we talk about how easy access to running water is not a given—and how remembering that can radically deepen our gratitude.

💪 Gratitude as a Muscle
Why gratitude gets stronger with repetition, how to build “gratitude muscles,” and how practiced gratitude naturally shifts our self-talk and conversations.

🧠 Complaining vs. Reframing
What happens to our brains when we rant, and how regular gratitude practice helps us reframe challenges without bypassing our feelings.

🃏 Affirmations & Mind Vitamins
Betsy introduces her Power Affirmation deck and a quick practice to feed your mind short, powerful “mind vitamins” instead of endless social media scrolling.

🎵 Song, Mantra & Flow State
We talk about music, mantras, and the movie Soul—how singing and sound can bypass the thinking mind and drop us into a deeper spiritual awareness. (Yes, John sings a spontaneous gratitude song!)

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Thank you for being part of this wave of love, gratitude, and practical woo. 💖

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Reunion and Gratitude

00:00:02
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Stay Sparked. This is a spontaneous, inspired conversation. i'm Betsy Finkelhoo. I'm Joan Halcyon. It's a rarity that we are together in person. And right now we are here sitting together, getting to share some gratitude with you guys. So let's start it off. What are you grateful for?
00:00:23
Speaker
I am grateful for a physical hug from you and feeling your energy in person. It's so magic. Oh, thank you I'm so grateful to see your home because we always record our episodes um via virtually. And so I see just what I see on the screen and I get to actually meet your plants. And I'm just so grateful for this beautiful view and grateful to see that what you've created here. So thank you so much for inviting me here on a short visit.
00:00:51
Speaker
So glad you're here. You know, I i have an idea. why don't we just extend this whole episode and share a Love Morning broadcast all about gratitude? Yes, I love that. We actually just did a Love Morning, which for those of you who don't know already...
00:01:07
Speaker
John does this amazing Love Morning broadcast almost every single day at 9 a.m. Pacific on Facebook and YouTube. And I just got to be a special guest. And we just geeked out about gratitude. We got to interact with some people that were commenting. And there were some serious sparks in there. Yeah. So I think we should just go ahead and just put that in here and give you all out there, our speak our Stay Sparge followers and listeners, a chance to listen.
00:01:34
Speaker
Sound good? I love it. Yeah. Enjoy the episode.

Gratitude's Role in Personal Growth

00:01:37
Speaker
i think That's it, I think we're live. Good morning, hello, good day. Welcome to Hug Nation Live.
00:01:45
Speaker
I'm John Halcyon and I'm here with Betsy. yeah I'm so lucky. yeah Betsy, if you are not familiar, a when I talk about that totally amazing person I know, I'm usually talking about Betsy. Betsy is the co-host of Stay Sparked, longtime friends and collaborators.
00:02:07
Speaker
And i was actually just talking about you recently. oh And while I'm telling this, ah please share what you are grateful for. We would love to hear what you are grateful for. ah I was talking to somebody who is on the threshold of sobriety and also someone who is kind of like saying, like, I can handle one woo, but I'm i'm not a woo woo. And I was like, well, my friend,
00:02:34
Speaker
Betsy, i consider her to be woo. And when I was starting sobriety, I had to acknowledge that i I was humbled. Like I need to be open to things that I haven't been in the past. And so I reached out to you and said, like, you are consistently happy and consistently have good attitude. so what What's the Kool-Aid? Yeah, exactly. What are your practices?
00:03:02
Speaker
So I ah thank you for walking the walk yeah and spreading your stuff in the world. Yeah, it's like practical woo. Practical wo That's what I like to consider. It's practical woo. Sometimes like the the spectrum of woo-woo, woo-woo-woo-woo gets up there. And sometimes it's like just really grounded woo.
00:03:20
Speaker
You know, and that's that's a fun place. to i I think that in general, a lot of ah spiritual growth is letting go of well not say i won't say a lot of spiritual i think there's there's a threshold where people either are below or above of where you you recognize oh i don't know what's best for me yeah and there's a lot of people before they are ready to be seeing a therapist or whatever where they kind of feel like well how can they help me like yeah and so even though they're miserable and unhappy they cannot let go of the idea that there might
00:03:56
Speaker
Somebody else might know better than that. Yeah, there's patterns. Yeah. Yeah.

Reflections on In-Person Meetings

00:04:01
Speaker
Well, I just to share some gratitude. Yeah. oh let's do that. I would love to share some gratitude because there was some magic that happened for this to happen, for us to be in person. Because for those of you who have watched our our podcast, They Sparked, or listened, we always do it virtually.
00:04:17
Speaker
And so like this is a rare occasion because I live in North Carolina and we don't get to see each other in the flesh. um I have just been holding such space for this beautiful home to reveal itself. And now I get to see it and feel it and meet all the plant babies that I've been getting to see through the screen. So I'm. so grateful to get to be here in person and to be able to make this a priority to pop in and for your commitment to sharing your gratitude out in the world, because that's also part of my joy and service. Gratitude is such a a gateway, you know, to circle back around what you're sharing and to like, where do where do we bridge ah from like maybe dense, dark, deep depression into ecstatic joy. And it's, it's a big jump. Yeah.

Gratitude Amidst Challenges

00:05:08
Speaker
And gratitude I find is like that golden thread yeah that can just help us to get through, to weave light into dark places, you know, because even in the depth of grief, as we both got to experience last year and losing our friend Janus, there's always room for gratitude. you know In the depth of despair, there's always something to be grateful for. And so as a love ambassador, we we're also gratitude ambassadors. Amen. Yeah. so yeah I think that that what I often talk about how gratitude is a yes and practice. You don't have to be free of your suffering or free of your grief to also be able to find gratitude. Yeah. Yeah, if you are in a place of despair or depression, your mind is gonna say, i have nothing to be grateful for, or that's not gonna help. I know, to me graphically this that it's not gonna help, but
00:06:04
Speaker
It does help and you can do it. You can still hold, you can still be in all your stuff and go, yeah, this is so terrible. And I'm i'm so grateful that I i have the ability to go to a doctor's appointment. and I'm grateful I can move my hands. I'm grateful I can see. Right. The simple things. We had a water ceremony at the retreat. I was at last weekend and it was, i mean, I often say, oh I'm grateful for running water. I'm grateful for, but like to spend like 20 minutes and really getting into the headspace of someone who is carrying buckets of water. Like like how many humans compared to in in the history, like had to carry buckets. Yep.
00:06:44
Speaker
Yep. And people still do. Right. Yeah. It's a thing. It's not to be taken. It's not a default that you get to turn. you Exactly. i know. And when you think about how how critical water is to your, mean, we talk about medicine. What is the most, the water is the the strongest medicine we have healing. yeah And most, like, I don't want to say most, an a unfathomable number of people have to put incredible effort into just getting water yeah i learned that very deeply last year when i moved to ashville right after the hurricane because we were out of water for six weeks six weeks the city actually ended up turning on water at about four and a half weeks but it was dirty water
00:07:26
Speaker
because they needed to give people an opportunity to at least flush their toilets. So I was watching people with buckets at the stream. Luckily, we had some resources that we were able to, you know, have our water. We had a big hot tub that we used for washing and flushing and that sort of thing. But it was so eye opening. And, you know, to always circle back around a burning man.
00:07:49
Speaker
Burning Man is a great teacher and it taught me what it is to live off the grid and to have your washing stations and to bring your own water and to not just have that access to the tap and to be able to come to that place of such deep gratitude for the accessibility because, you know, it's not always a a given that we're going to have that resource. Totally. I love ah witnessing people who are like get an RV and very quickly to get a new understanding of how much water they need and how much they use. They're like, oh my gosh, our tanks are full. And like, yep. Totally, lay it happens fast. Just check in and say hello to people. Hello, Cliff from Burning Man.
00:08:30
Speaker
Cliff says, I'm grateful for seeing friends that i haven't seen in a while. Me too. I'm so grateful. ah Yay, look at all these friends. High Moon says, hello, you two. So rad humans together.
00:08:44
Speaker
Natasha says, happy Hug Nation, Betsy and John. Aww. High Noon says, I love the pod. good. you ya Girbot. Good morning, Girbot. Says, grateful for the archive. Got a hug and run. See you next time. Bye. Water is life. Natasha. think Yes, so true.
00:09:01
Speaker
High Noon says, I'm grateful for the reminder about how important water gets when I backpack and I need to find it along the way. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Daily Gratitude Practices

00:09:09
Speaker
Mm. Well, this is Hug Nation Live. This is a daily practice, unless it's not, um which is, I kind of try to practice immediacy. If if I, there's, like, i wasn't positive if we were going to go live because if time was short, it's like, the, my priorities in life is immediacy first, then commitments like this, but we're doing it together. We're doing it. I know, exactly. So it's a daily practice of,
00:09:35
Speaker
Finding gratitude, sharing gratitude, make, listen to others, communal gratitude and allowing that to kind of help expand our lens. and yeah And it's also a chance to set an intention for the day of who do you want to be?
00:09:47
Speaker
Getting out of the headset, head space of all the things that you need to do And before you do that, instead, who do you want to be? Yeah. I often go to patient. i want to be patient.
00:10:00
Speaker
I want to be good listener. I want to practice self-care. want to be kind. want to see if I can look for opportunities to gift, however that might show up. So that when life happens to me, already what I'm to do. Instead going like, oh, you know
00:10:19
Speaker
yeah you know what I should have put that person in front of me in line because they had that crying baby. And I go, now I see the crying baby, oh, please. Yep. Yes, because the values that you hold are kindness and patience, you know, and to be able to affirm As you know, so much of my work is about affirmations. And so to continuously come back to the affirmation of what you value, then that starts to ripple into your actions, right? Because I'm a kind person. Of course, going let this person go. I'm also a kind person to myself.
00:10:52
Speaker
And so I'm going to be kind on the inside and not shame myself. Right. I can be patient with myself. And i I'd love to actually speak to something that you sparked a bit ago about the gratitude.
00:11:02
Speaker
um We were talking about how even in the dark times, gratitude is available, but sometimes it's hard. I always think of gratitude as like a muscle. And if we haven't worked out in a long time and we go to pick up a three to five pound weight, it's like, oh, man, I can only do a certain amount of reps. And it's hard. But the more that we lift that weight, then soon we're going to get to 10 pounds and we're going to get 15 and we're going to keep getting stronger. And then we go back to that like five pound and it's like super easy. And it's the same thing with gratitude.
00:11:34
Speaker
Totally. right Because if we're not practicing regularly, right, when we wake up or when we go to bed or in our conversation, then it's kind of hard to think then we maybe what I've seen is like,
00:11:46
Speaker
I don't do practice gratitude. I guess when someone asked me i'm what I'm grateful for, I was just saying my health. I'm grateful for my home. It's kind of like baseline, simple kind of gratitudes. But the more that we start actually thinking about what there is to be grateful for, then all of a sudden we're like heavy lifting and we got some strong gratitude muscles. And then the next thing, I mean, my personal experience is then it's just woven into so much of our conversation.
00:12:14
Speaker
Right. Well, and there's another thing that I get to notice all the time with the regulars at the daily gratitude circles that we do, which is that when the muscles are tuned and and strong, the reframing challenging narratives becomes almost automatic. And people, instead of saying,
00:12:32
Speaker
my mom is being such a jerk, you know, and and're just he's riding me and stuff. Like I'm having a lot of challenges at home right now. And I'm so grateful that I have a car so I can go to a coffee shop when I need space. Yeah. That's a big major. So major.
00:12:49
Speaker
Yeah. It's the same story, but yeah if you can find the yes and in it, it just changes the way you can experience yeah the same, the same, uh, you know? Yeah.
00:13:00
Speaker
Yeah. And you know what's so funny? i actually just heard about this research study that shows what happens to our brains when we complain. Really? Can you imagine? ran ran ran ran Rant, rant, rant, rant, rant.
00:13:19
Speaker
It's not doing good things to our brain, right? And so i feel like sometimes it's a hook and we don't know when we're in a rant. Same thing with gratitude. It's a practice. Complaining is also a practice. Totally. But maybe not a conscious practice. i was At the retreat, I was just at, we were large group. There's this is incredible wood burning sauna and we're all hanging out and we're all getting to know each other. And one woman said, so new person, what's your biggest struggle in life right now? And they were like, I don't know if I want to get in. I'm like, what's something that you're excited about right now? yeah And it's like, why not start conversations like that Yeah. it's too easy to get in that.
00:14:01
Speaker
Yeah, totally. I mean, that's a pretty deep question for a new person. What's your biggest struggle right now? Yeah. It's like, Hey, actually let's build a little rapport. Let's talk about the weather first. And let's like, you know, check in with where you're at. Yeah. That's a big one. So Natasha says, I'm grateful for the water that fell from the sky overnight that put snow on our lovely mountains. And Natasha is asking,
00:14:22
Speaker
ah Betsy, where can we get your affirmation cards? Yes, absolutely. Poweraffirmation.com. I have this amazing deck that has 55 cards, which you probably have. It's on the coffee table. Here, you tell keep talking about it. um it's It's really a tool to help to program our thinking and have a daily practice to affirm, to get the repetition going, to really um have something to utilize, to get the thinking brain going. I kind of like um think of them as a like mind vitamins.
00:14:53
Speaker
Yeah. Oh yeah. Why is it still in the box? You got to have them out. So that way you can remember to pull one. You're okay. This is what we have the expert to teach me. All right. Actually, at least it is out on our. I'm so glad. all right. So I'm going to teach you a little way that I like to use them. on that So not a lot of people know this one. um So sometimes you can pull a card, but sometimes you can just hear you take half.
00:15:19
Speaker
I'll take half. And then we read just the top line. so there's just a lot top line. Trust. I am powerful. Embodied. Relax. I am relaxed. I am powerful.
00:15:32
Speaker
I am organized. I am creative. i am evolving. i am peaceful. i am thriving. i am thankful. i am strong. i am motivated.
00:15:43
Speaker
i am grounded. i am hopeful. Yes. Yeah. It's a nice little like, do you, do you know how our brains are going through this process of evolution with social media? How it's like shorter attention spans, it's like swipe, swipe, three seconds, 10 seconds. Right. I find that these are kind of like so supportive to that. So instead of like, you know, oxytocin and video and video and video, it's like affirmation, affirmation, affirmation, affirmation. And then it's like, filling your brain with these. At the pace that it's kind of grown accustomed to. Exactly. Right, because reading has changed, right? We don't, so not many people sit down to read as much. You mean listening to audible books? Yeah, and I know. Totally.

Balancing Self-Care Practices

00:16:29
Speaker
I've really been thinking, you know, I'm trying to practice self-forgiveness, but also recognizing that have ah strayed from a lot of practices like reading a real book. Yeah, well, you're not alone. But I have started doing new practices like singing. Oh, great. I'd love to hear you sing. ah Yeah, well, we I finished the choir session.
00:16:56
Speaker
Can you sing it while you share it? can sing about anything because that's the way it feels when you sing. And if Betsy's here and we're all so good.
00:17:11
Speaker
It makes everyone happy in the neighborhood. Woo! That's such a good point. Wow, you've been tending to your vocal cords. I've been really, I've gone through a shift for sure. Good, wow. I'm so glad that Lisa has had a positive influence on your life, I imagine. yeah late life This week goes,
00:17:34
Speaker
If there is ah there is, there's no better example of like the impact of Lisa on the world than you before and after you met her. like true I know. Yes, it's a good totally thing. And I'm sure you to her. really feel...
00:17:52
Speaker
Yeah. So blessed. And you know, it's amazing for those of you who don't know this, Halcyon and I have been friends for years and we both got into a deep committed relationship, like pretty much at the same exact time, him with Lisa and my partner Leo. And so we've been on this like sort of parallel journey of being in partnership. If you haven't listened to our stay sparks of love, it was like episode 69 and 70. You can learn about our, our journeys of love. Yeah, we took each took a separate episode with our partners and talked about our relationships. It's, yeah, better have have a listen on Stay Sparked. Look it up on wherever get your podcast.
00:18:29
Speaker
ah Let's see, Izzy, hello. Izzy says, I'm grateful for having peace of mind for my health, for my martial arts practice, and for going out dancing tonight. ya Yay, awesome, Izzy.
00:18:42
Speaker
ah Is that Juan? That says, I'm grateful for a new electric heater in my van. Electric heater costs 25 bucks. the Power supply solar generator costs 3,000. Electric heaters off-grid without running a gas generator is expensive. Yeah, Juan. Beautiful.
00:18:58
Speaker
High Noon says, I have so much gratitude tube for my interactions in those I meet on trails, roads, and paths with the two bikes I have. Feeling like you're flying across the world on two wheels rocks. Yeah. yeah Thanks for sharing. I love hearing things. I do not have a ah bicycling in any way is not really a part of my life. So I love hearing other people sharing aspects of their life that bring joy and gratitude that are not
00:19:28
Speaker
in mind Yeah, gratitude is a gateway for connection and knowing people. I found um when you ask someone what they're grateful for or you instigate some gratitude, obviously case in point, then we get to know people, right?

Gratitude and Personal Stories

00:19:40
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Because it's like, what are you grateful for? oh wow, we just learned about Juan and his um his van and everything he's going through. And a little like kind of seed I'll share with you is I actually am working on a gratitude deck.
00:19:52
Speaker
Ooh. It's in the works and I beta tested it. And I what I notice is when I have someone pull a gratitude shoot card, they pull it and then they read it and then they open up and share something about their life. So, for example, someone pulled card. I'm grateful for trees.
00:20:09
Speaker
And she read it and then she goes, do you know, I just got back from the redwoods. And so this is perfect. And then she opened up and shared with me about her trip. Whereas maybe in general conversation, she wouldn't have opened up to share. And so gratitude is such an invitation for getting to know people.
00:20:24
Speaker
i love that. Wow, that's great. um i am going have to send you cease and desist for making it a gratitude product because I'm just kidding. The more gratitude, the better. Come on. Welcome everyone that is popping in We are having a little bit a conversation and not seeing all comments, but we are going to try to catch up, but know that we are all together in this vibration. And we are in California. Kenneth, yes. wait It's cozy, cozy today. It's raining outside. It's like shifting into the winter season here in California. so grateful for the rain. Plants love it. So grateful. I love the weather when it gets to the point where i can wear it kni a cap or a jacket here. Same, yeah. you know what? can Stand up for one second.
00:21:04
Speaker
Can you see all the blooms and that on that cap? Oh, amazing. They're like one day looms. And this morning is like. Yep. Out of water, we'll do that. Hello, Mingle. Good morning. Love you too.
00:21:17
Speaker
oh a hello to you, Kenneth. Liam Bobeam. i hope you're still here. miss you, Bill. I love you. oh ah Bill, actually, you're talking about that gratitude helps you get to know each each other well. When I worked with Bill, I was the... ah ah chief wisdom officer and I implemented a company-wide gratitude practice.

Gratitude in the Workplace

00:21:41
Speaker
And it was so effective at helping us know each other because we would share one thing professionally, one thing personally. And you know if you're in an office you know day after day, month after month, year after year,
00:21:53
Speaker
they're just bill in accounting. But after, a you know, a few months of gratitude, you know that Bill is so proud of his daughter that he's, yeah his, you know, his ankle injury is getting better. you know, he loves guitar. And pretty soon this, this two-dimensional being is someone that you start to get to know. And quite frankly, you start to love them. i love that And when you're working with it ah a community of people that know each other, the camaraderie the the willingness to go above and beyond the the the that tendency to start you know covering your ass and blaming people is reduced yeah because there's connection right humanness right and it's not just like suit and tie and doing your little thing that you're supposed to do but there's a humanness yeah totally hey simon is here simon says grateful for waking up feeling strong and vital in my body
00:22:45
Speaker
Grateful for the artists who put in the work to create provocative, heart-opening expressions.

Music and Spiritual Awareness

00:22:50
Speaker
Last night, Mamuse. Tonight, Jagged Little Pill musical. love Mamuse. Mamuse is ah who we performed with and sang half the the concert with their songs at the Wholehearted Chorus. That was ah such a treat to have 100 people on stage and then 600 in the audience all singing a Mamuse song together. we shall be known by the company we call. lisa's a relationship with music and songs is deep and reverent and like so she it spends a lot of time picking the songs because she sees them as mantras and spells and tools yeah and what and so to see all these people using these tools and and to feeling it myself it's really
00:23:37
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and
00:23:41
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Transformational. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uplifting, powerful, healing, inspiring. Yeah. Yeah. And, and she, she did a, in her podcast, she interviewed Richard Rudd from the Jinkies. And one of the things that they talked about was how song,
00:24:00
Speaker
that that intellectual thought can only get you so far. And then song is one of the tools that can get you deeper into spiritual awarenesses that are not fully intellectual. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I always think of the movie soul.
00:24:17
Speaker
Have you seen that Pixar movie yeah where there's this liminal space when somebody is in the flow state and and oftentimes it's music that take people to the flow state and it's using a different part of the brain and you let go of your thinking mind and you can get into this really beautiful blissful state through song through music through movement it's so powerful when you can really access that and sometimes it takes a while to get there right because you might be like oh does this sound good i don't know am i gonna get the words right and Once you hit that rhythm in stride, then you just let go. And if mantra has been really powerful me for me to sing, which have you gotten into mantras yet?
00:24:59
Speaker
It's powerful to start learning Sanskrit. That's a whole other realm of devotion and singing. And I first started doing that when I was in Anusara, which I could share one.
00:25:11
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Yeah. you like yeah i'm I'm grateful to have a ah mantra to share with you all today.
00:25:20
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Thank you. it's in there.
00:25:37
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oh oh
00:25:47
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thank you once it's in there
00:25:53
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ah Natasha says, i am grateful I found a Cebu blue pothos at the grocery store this morning on the clearance rack. Adding to my pothos collection and propagating them to give out to friends brings me so much joy. Yeah. That's inspiring. Why am having to do that?
00:26:08
Speaker
love that. Heinemann says, I have so much gratitude for having cerebral palsy and those who helped me find balance and strength. Physical therapy. yeah we go We're going finish up in just a couple minutes. So last chance to throw in some gratitude. Thanks to everyone who's popped in and everyone who shared some gratitude and everyone who's watching this recording. where You are here. Hug Nation does not exist in a specific physical place or a specific time.
00:26:32
Speaker
So you can join from any location and

Gratitude as a Communal Practice

00:26:35
Speaker
from any time. We are simply collecting our energies, narrations, letting our love ambassador vibe, strengthen one another, adding our ingredients to the stew that we then ladle out all day long to people. Casting light. yes Casting it out there, spreading sparks of gratitude is such a gift to the world, especially these days with just so much change and so much to be concerned about and a lot of scary things and it's so valuable so thank you so much for continuing to bring this space for welcoming me in to get to just keep filling the airwaves with positivity and building this amazing community it's so beautiful to see all your comments coming in and sharing gratitude this is just such a gift to my soul and my heart thank you so much i'm so glad you're here yeah uh well
00:27:29
Speaker
We're going to bring this to a close. So wherever you are, I encourage you to give yourself a squeeze, hold your body, appreciate this incredible, incredible body you're in and then let go of the specifics of that feeling and just know that you're holding me and Betsy and all those that are here, all those that might come through this space, giving an embrace, feeling embraced.
00:27:53
Speaker
in a state of oneness, the shared human experience, recognizing there's lots, lots of tough stuff and so many things that are beautiful and inspiring. So let's let's open our minds and focus our attention to to celebrate the miracle of being alive. Yeah.
00:28:12
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Just like a deep breath in and squeeze.
00:28:21
Speaker
On behalf of Grandpa Caleb, Yanus, Betsy, and all of you here, thanks for joining us for Hug Nation Live. Love you. i Love you Love you. I love you. Ooh, a real hug. So good.
00:28:37
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Yeah.
00:28:41
Speaker
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00:28:51
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