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First XV Coach Cast Episode 20- Great Player Doesn't Always Mean Great Coach
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On this episode of Coach Cast, I tackle the common misconception that being an exceptional athlete automatically translates to being a great coach. There are some really famous examples and there's a generally good measure of how you can tell if someone will or won't be a good coach after they are done.
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Side Note- This was recorded last week, the info on the Seminar is now outdated. Apologies for the confusion.
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Introduction to First 15 Coachcast
00:00:01
Jarrod Dyke
Hello again, everyone. Welcome back to the First 15 Coachcast. If this is your first time or you're new around here, my name is Jared Dyke. I've been doing this for a little over a year now. Just quick little blurbs.
00:00:12
Jarrod Dyke
5 to 10, 5, 10, 15 minute podcast episodes. Probably about the most I can stand talking, so it's probably the most you guys can stand listening to me. Anyway, hasn't been recent episode for...
Core Collective Seminar and Ticket Promotion
00:00:28
Jarrod Dyke
many reasons, the biggest which is I've been preparing for the Core Collective seminar, which I'm speaking at this coming Sunday. So if you're in the area and you've not yet bought your ticket, what are you waiting for?
00:00:39
Jarrod Dyke
Please do so and I will be happy to see you there. Okay, on to the fun stuff.
Transition from Athlete to Coach: Is It Automatic?
00:00:44
Jarrod Dyke
So today I want to talk a little bit about and I'm sure I've talked about this before, maybe not at length, but just hit on it.
00:00:51
Jarrod Dyke
And it's former coaches being becoming coaches, ah excuse me, former athletes, there we go, that's the one, former athletes becoming coaches, and whether or not it's a translatable thing, automatically.
00:01:05
Jarrod Dyke
um So, dive right into it. more More often than not, especially in sports, but in ah even in the strength training world, we see a lot of former athletes that decide they're going to be coaches for in one capacity the other, whether it's they're going to go coach the sport that they played or that they're going to be, um,
00:01:24
Jarrod Dyke
on the strength conditioning side or something or something in between.
Great Players vs. Great Coaches: The Gretzky Example
00:01:28
Jarrod Dyke
<unk>s ah It's all possibilities. ah There's always this notion that especially high, especially people that were high end are automatically going to be good coaches. Like just snap your fingers.
00:01:43
Jarrod Dyke
They retire. They're instantaneously a great coach. um Best and probably your most perfect example that I can give you about why this is not necessarily true is a fellow by the name of Wayne Gretzky. If you haven't followed the NHL ice hockey, uh, inarguably the best player ever has many rings, has a lot of records, most of which have not fallen. Only one has recently fallen and it's still going be a long time before the
Talent vs. Hard Work in Coaching Success
00:02:12
Jarrod Dyke
rest do.
00:02:12
Jarrod Dyke
So, um, yeah, it's, he's a, uh, he was a great player to say the least. I would, you know, absent the word grace of all time gets thrown around a lot.
00:02:25
Jarrod Dyke
It's hard to argue. He was not the greatest of all time. So with that, he didn't try stand it coaching and he was horrible, had an awful record.
00:02:38
Jarrod Dyke
i don't know if he ever had a winning season in the seasons that he coached. So, and he just, he didn't know what he was doing. Like he, and The thing about that is when you are, and he was a very gifted player. There's no question about that.
00:02:54
Jarrod Dyke
When that's the case, when someone is very gifted athletically and maybe they haven't had to do as much to make themselves a better player because it just came so easy to them. And not saying they didn't work hard at all.
00:03:09
Jarrod Dyke
That's not what I'm saying. But some people are just just blessed with these gifts and they're able to do these things. without having to put to put in a lot of overtime by any means.
00:03:21
Jarrod Dyke
And on the other end of it, i liken players to, liken players that are not as good athletes, but still good players to the ones that potentially could be better coaches in one way or another, because they had to figure out the X's and the O's so and the the hard work that needed to go in. They had to find all those extra ways to make themselves better And because of that, they now know how to make other players ah better and how to coach things a little bit a little bit
Passion and Hard Work in Coaching Transition
00:03:55
Jarrod Dyke
better.
00:03:55
Jarrod Dyke
So, and I find in our field especially, it almost feels like, and it it this is actually, i think it's worse with our field. um Because what happens is we have guys that retire as athletes, whether we're talking about they're done after college, in college, or you know, the next level.
00:04:16
Jarrod Dyke
any sort of professional and instantaneously people believe because they know how to work out that they're going to great coaches. Well, that's not that easy of you know, that's not that short of a dot to connect there. That's still, there's still a lot of things that need to go into that.
00:04:35
Jarrod Dyke
And maybe they have a passion for working out. It's certainly something I had. I I really enjoyed lifting weights when I was younger and then I was like, oh, maybe I could do this as a profession.
00:04:47
Jarrod Dyke
And it still took a lot for me to get to be a good coach. So I know I wasn't a good athlete, but I still, I really enjoyed the weight room for a lot of reasons. so And yeah, it still took me a while to get myself to the point where I could be a good coach for in the weight room.
00:05:04
Jarrod Dyke
So it's not always that simple, guys. you know And really for me, the thing that's, I'll go back to it. the ones that had to put the hard work in and graft and grind and really make themselves better with all the little things that they could find an advantage in, many of which find it in the strength and conditioning, in the in the gym, those are the ones that are probably going to find a way to be a better coach, even if the ones that were more gifted were are still good coaches.
00:05:39
Jarrod Dyke
I think those will be better coaches because... they just they They become a student of the game and a student of how to get better. And one of the ways is yes in the gym. The other ways are many ways on the field as well. And just understanding laws and stuff like that, little loopholes that sometimes you can exploit.
00:05:58
Jarrod Dyke
um That's the difference to me in what will make ah what will make the difference between a good player and going to a good coach is Did they really have to put in the work? Did they really have to graft? Did they really have to grind?
00:06:13
Jarrod Dyke
And also you have to enjoy that process of coaching because if you don't, you will flame out very fast.
Challenges for University Strength Coaches
00:06:20
Jarrod Dyke
So there's that too. So it's not because it's anybody that's in this field right now can tell you it's not not all sunshine and roses, especially if you're on the, um, the university side here. It's that's tough work right there. So credit to all the university coaches that are, you know,
00:06:39
Jarrod Dyke
D1 S&C coaches and having to deal with a lot of BS, a lot of political BS on top of the fact that they're working hard. And unfortunately, usually the first person to be blamed when things don't go well.
Skepticism on Great Players as Coaches
00:06:51
Jarrod Dyke
So those are my thoughts on that. Yeah. Gifted players, not always the greatest coaches in a lot of ways. The less gifted players that are still and less gifted athletes that are still good players are the ones to maybe take a night, take a note of and say, you know, I bet you they're going to be a good coach one day because they knew all the little ways that had they had to get better and they knew how to do it or they learned how to do it one way or the other.
00:07:16
Jarrod Dyke
So the that's my take on it. That's my idea. Those are my ideas. So just keep your eyes peeled next time. And maybe ah um anytime someone says, oh, they're a great player, they'll be a great they'll be a great coach. Throw a little salt onto that just a little bit.
Closing Remarks and Listener Appreciation
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Jarrod Dyke
Just a little bit. Okay. So thank you very much for listening, everyone. And thanks for bearing with me throughout this. And I hope you guys will join me again. Have a good one.