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Hammering Away Ep #20 - International Break
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On today's episode of the podcast, Jack and Joe discuss West Ham's upcoming trip to Villa Park, Bowen's performances for England, the rest of our international Hammers, and more!
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Transcript
Introduction & Episode Debut
00:00:26
Speaker
Welcome back to the Hammering Wave podcast. This is episode number 20, and if everything goes to plan, the first episode with video, which is why I'm looking around, trying to act like I have something to look at. Yeah, we have not a lot to talk about because we're finally recording during an international break. We have Villa coming up, which is good because we could talk about them for a while though. We have talked about them for a while on episodes, so we haven't been playing them.
00:00:56
Speaker
So welcome to the visual aspect of hammering away. Hopefully. How are you doing tonight?
On-Camera Presence & Personalities
00:01:01
Speaker
Joe doing good? I'm glad everybody's finally get to see our handsome mugs. This is pretty exciting A lot of a lot of people know us by our Twitter personas, but now they'll see They'll see through it all the face behind the trolls It's pretty tragic that um
00:01:22
Speaker
I had to shave my beard off before the first episode. Did I tell you what happened? Yeah, you did. I must have, yeah. You can spare the listeners of the details. Of the gory details, but I will make the excuse that I accidentally took the, what's it called? The trimming guard off. Yeah. And just like one at the chin. There's no way to salvage it, so.
00:01:45
Speaker
You're this is like an inauthentic version of yourself. Like you are like the guy with the beard. And now without the beard, you're just a guy guy. Yeah. And why would they why would they listen to a podcast about a guy? It's just it's just the guy. Nothing special about the guy.
Confidence Against Villa
00:02:03
Speaker
But as a guy that watches our beautiful game, I can say that not stressed about this fellow game. You know, people say they are a good team. No,
00:02:15
Speaker
We'll go there. We'll score three goals. We'll take three points and we'll come home. Start talking about Thursday or whatever game is next. Me and you personally have a lot riding on this game. Oh, I'm screaming on the inside. That was like, dude, I'm scared.
00:02:32
Speaker
We'll be all right. Despite how good they've looked sometimes. Sometimes. They never scared me. We have had their number the entire David Morris era, even when they were at their best and we were at their worst. We were at our worst at the exact same time. We still got a point, right? Oh, yeah. When we were playing the year that we finished sixth, but we were playing Hell Ball at the time with
00:03:01
Speaker
how layer was starting. Oh, I wasn't even talking about that. That was bad. Dude, that win. That's one of the funniest games I've ever seen us win. The fact that Watkins missed that penalty and had that goal disallowed is crazy. That is the
00:03:17
Speaker
most egregious disallow goal I've ever seen in my life.
Controversial Villa Game Memories
00:03:20
Speaker
No, there's been worse. Dude, Luis Diaz just had his goal disallowed. No, no, no. In terms of how close it was. They were literally drawing lines at his armpit. Dude, I, yeah, we got bailed out. And what was even funnier about that game was we did nothing. We scored a corner in the sixth minute and then scored 15 seconds into the second half. Just did nothing for the rest of the game.
00:03:47
Speaker
Man, I guess it was so funny because everyone was screaming at the time that Ben Rama needed to start. And we were screaming that Hilar needed to start. And then as soon as they both got checked in, like, what, 30 seconds in? Hilar started the game, didn't he? It was just Ben Rama who came on at halftime. Oh, well, whatever. Ben Rama, we were complaining about that. Yeah, it was.
00:04:16
Speaker
He creates the goal 15 seconds into the cameo. It was pretty special. It was pretty funny because he played it for Holler, Bow and Cameron Farmam scored. I remember you going through the range of emotions like, like, yes, we scored, but also like, I'm going to kill Jared Bow
Player Performances & Impact Moments
00:04:35
Speaker
now. No, it was pretty immediately like that was Holler's goal. Like, you just costed him his job here. What are you doing?
00:04:45
Speaker
Dude, the last month of his career here is so funny when you think about it, how he preserved himself. Dude, he was out on January 1st, was he not? It was pretty immediately. I don't think we played a game before he left. I don't know who was exactly January 1st. You know what, it wasn't. It was probably the next day because he started that game at Everton.
00:05:12
Speaker
Probably maybe the grossest victory I've ever seen it's good. You know the suit check Yeah, how could we forget? Antonio came on at halftime and was like great in the second half and how there was just deplorable In hindsight, I can say that no. Yeah, we were both holler guys, but dude He was it was if the writing was on the wall at
Critique of Aston Villa's Summer Signings
00:05:33
Speaker
that point. It was yeah The deal is probably like a great to be honest. Mm-hmm Yeah
00:05:39
Speaker
But speaking about modern West Ham and modern, not modern, but like today's West Ham and today's Aston Villa. Do you have a score prediction? Because I have no idea what to think. I think we're going to make it tough for them. They're not going to. You know, give us six like they gave Brian. I'm not going to go and make a 2131. I think I honestly do think we handle them. Brush them aside.
00:06:07
Speaker
I just, you know, it also depends what their team is. Because when it's, when it's their best team, they, they are a team that plays with a lot of energy and like energy and physicality that can like not on the physical side, not match us, but like, we're not gonna just overpower them. But if they, if they start to humans or something,
00:06:30
Speaker
we're gonna run all over them which which they won't i i don't think he i don't think he's been starting in the league he he hasn't but here's the hoping yeah right he's he's basically their main culprit for their their conference league shitty form he doesn't do anything dude he's i used to love him he does not do anything whatever qualities he had back in the day that like made him a redeemable
00:06:55
Speaker
like a player. He was a damn good center midfielder. Absolutely. I mean, he was warranting those, those links to what Riam Madrid and United and all them. Yeah, it was all warranted, but
00:07:12
Speaker
now it's like he can't even start for villa's second side by i mean these these conference league teams with like one or two vowels and their team name are just exposing the hell out of him it's embarrassing just on the telomeres thing i've never understood that sign for them i've probably said it on this podcast before but i've never understood it because he doesn't fit anything that they do
00:07:38
Speaker
Like he's not a high energy player. Like he doesn't want to like make you feel him. He's not really disciplined at all. And like when I think of this Emory era, it's high energy, like high intensity, like playing fast, like playing dark. He just, he doesn't really have any interest in playing like that. So I never understood that signing.
00:08:00
Speaker
I don't know how they're going to make that work. I have a lot of thoughts about their summer in general. I mean, basically, the way I saw it is there wasn't as much thought to the signing as much as they put to others, even though I don't love their business as a whole. They kind of just saw him. They knew he was talented at one point in his life. And he was free. And they were like, you know what, we could use another money. And I don't think they had much planned for the fit.
00:08:29
Speaker
I don't think they put much thought into any of their summer business because I'm going to look this up right now because if I remember correctly, who's the other center back that they signed? They signed Torres and they signed another one, did they not? Langley. Why? It's a good question. I have no idea. Why? He was terrible at first. No, but Ming's, Torres, and Langley. Why? I understand they play some three at the back and stuff, but
00:08:58
Speaker
and constant there too. You have a constant right footed. I'm just like those there's a three left footed guys. Why? And Langlet is not that good. Did Langlet come after? Thanks. Oh, makes a hurt. Yeah. But how long is he out for? Is his is about injury actually. So I might be he's not back. Think he actually might be out for a while, which makes sense. But it's still
00:09:27
Speaker
I hate that signing. I don't like the Torah signing. I think he's good. But I don't know how many times. No, you don't. I'm being nice. But like, I don't know how many times.
Preview of Upcoming Villa Match
00:09:38
Speaker
All right. I don't know how many times I can tell people like he's a very pretty player of the watch and he has some good qualities. But he's just I'm not saying not cut out for the Premier League. He just like is a weak player. He's soft.
00:09:53
Speaker
mouse in the house. He's mouse in the house. And dude, we got we got we got a cat over here. Oh, yeah. The player the player formerly known as number 30. Currently number nine is licking his chops. No, he is probably the center forward power tourist wants to see the least in world football. Oh, absolutely. Like, dude, he's gonna give him hell if they play a four, which they do. They like that 433 with those midfielders. Dude,
00:10:22
Speaker
And Tony was going to give him how he's going to be on his hip all game. Yeah, it's gonna be a long day for us. If he, if he plays. And by the way, those left backs, they suck. I talk about Dean and the other one, Moreno. I like easy. They're cute. Because you don't watch them play enough.
00:10:44
Speaker
You watch and they run forward with the ball a little bit and they shape a nice cross where you're like, ooh, and then it gets headed out. And then they do that for 38 games and they don't really defend that well. No, yeah, that's that's that's basically how I see them. Like they're they're cute. The Dean is finished. No, yeah, I'm mostly thinking about Moreno. Yeah, I know that you are. Because I just remember they were both watching a game where texting and you're like,
00:11:11
Speaker
I like this guy and I was like, nah. But my Aston Villa stick runs deep. But I also just don't think Reyno is that good. Cash is good. Cash is good. He should have been a hammer. Could have been. Concert.
00:11:30
Speaker
Look, I think concept is a little bit like a guard these days. And the fact that I think outsiders think he's better than he is. Because I used to really like concept, but I feel like every time I watch him, he's doing some something weird. Isn't it so funny that he got a straight red on Popo from the house? Dude, yeah. Well, there should have been two reds on that incident. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. I do. It was the it was the person before and then console also. It was a it was Courtney house.
00:12:00
Speaker
who actually, for whatever reason, I think it's from like an FM say, like five years ago, I have I have love in my heart for. He was like, I saw him on like a loan from wolves, but I think you got wolves. But yeah, he like elbowed Bowen in the chin. Right. Right. Right. Right. Tonsa took for now is down when he was through, which is just ridiculous. He's not gonna get there.
00:12:23
Speaker
Like it's for now. It's like if you don't trust your yourself to to in a pace battle with Pablo for now, it's like, well, he was young then wasn't he must have been 21 that year. Yeah, he was young. He's, you know, gotten better since then. He's like, I think he's like a decent enough center back. I just think that their center backs, particularly Torres and concept are ones Antonio can really get some trouble.
00:12:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think I wonder, I wonder if Diego Carlos starts. I he does not worry me. He's bad. He's just bad. Yeah, I none of them worry me, but he's an Antonio. Antonio has given him hell before, lest we forget. True, true, true. Very true. Forgot he's a Sevilla guy. Dude, that was that's another dude. Whatever it is, Villa make these signings. People love them that they're salivating at the mouth of them.
00:13:23
Speaker
And then they wonder why, and then they finished 11, and everybody's like, hmm. It's these La Liga guys that Emory's bringing over. Somebody's going to tell me, they're going to be like, oh, well, Diego Carlos tore his ACL. He was bad before that. He was, yeah. Like, that was a bad sign-in. And then he tore his ACL, like, as soon as he got there. So now you just have post ACL. Was he 30 now?
00:13:47
Speaker
Yeah, and they paid a lot for all these guys, too. They paid somewhere between 25 and 30 for Carlos. Torres must have been between 30 and 40. North of 30. Yeah. For sure. But what's next about Villa is going higher up the pitch. I have to start being a little complimentary. Yeah. Because, you know, I've brushed off the Buba Car Camaro thing before. Because, like, you know, I
00:14:17
Speaker
I didn't want to acknowledge that they got a good player. And I was like, he sucks. Like, you know, like it won't work out. But now that he's been in England for a year and a few months now, he does a lot of good things for them. He's pretty sad. Like he doesn't blow me away. Like, like he's he's not like some guy who I'm like fearing going in, but he's a solid player. Yeah, but I don't know. If I was a Villa fan, I'd be really excited about him because
00:14:46
Speaker
Like he does everything you want from six. Like you don't really hear about him making mistakes. You watch a hill shield that back where he'll break plays up and he's a good passer. You can pick a pass. And he's only, he's 20 or 21 now I think, right? Is he only 21? He was 19 when they signed him. That's crazy. How did that even happen? He was on a free and like he had all these suitors, but none of it really materialized anything concrete. And they were just, they offered him a ton of money.
00:15:16
Speaker
He's 23. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, so it's a little less crazy. Maybe he was 21 when he signed for them. That makes more sense. This was two years ago. OK, yeah. And then I was probably being like, man, he was good when he was 19. But yeah, he's still a good player. But I'm not actually going to heap as much praise on him as I was going to.
00:15:44
Speaker
now, because I was going to be like, man, like, you know, he's pretty good. It's pretty good. I wouldn't go into our hyperboles about him, but yeah, I'm going to actually stop there. He's whatever to me at this point. 23. Pick a room grandpa. Um, but Douglas
Arsenal's Midfield What-Ifs
00:16:07
Speaker
Louise is probably the player in that squad. I mean, we'll get to the other guy that they signed.
00:16:12
Speaker
But he's the guy in that squad that's been there who I probably liked the most. I think Arsenal made a huge mistake not signing him, not this past summer, but two summers ago on deadline day. Huge mistake. Yeah, he's really good. They wanted 25 or 30 and they just wouldn't go to it. It was something like that. And I forget, they were looking at other players who... Can you imagine they signed him
00:16:42
Speaker
that year and then they signed Rice this year. What that midfield would look like with Louise, Rice and Odegard. It'd certainly be better than what they're putting out now with Haverst. Haverst is going to cost them a very big game this year. I will be there for it. I will be there. But yeah, Louise is really good. McGinn's got to be the third one who starts, isn't he?
00:17:09
Speaker
It's not going to be Tillman's. It's not going to be Tillman's. I don't know if McGinn is actually starting games for them. I don't think it's Jalen Ramsey, either. And you know how I feel about Jalen Ramsey. I think Jalen Ramsey's been hurt. Has he really? I am a fan of Jalen Ramsey. I'll give him that. I'm a big fan of Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, he's not. Oh, Pal Torres scored his first Premier League goal in a 1-1 draw against Wolverhampton Wanderers. Wow, dude. Congrats.
00:17:39
Speaker
So yeah, they started, uh, they played a back five dude. Their last lineup in the Premier League was Martinez who forgot to start there. We don't have to talk. I think he is the most overrated goalkeeper in the world. Oh yeah. It's, it's obscene the way that people talk about him for the amount of mistakes that he makes. It's ludicrous the way that he's talked about.
00:18:08
Speaker
I mean, he's made plenty of mistakes against us. I mean, he changed our season in 2020, 2021. He gave Jesse Lingard that confidence. This is all his fault that we're this good. He literally like must have been having like an Oppenheimer moment watching the rest of our season. He was watching the conference league final bone struggle and all I can see is bombs and Jesse Lingard taking a shot outside the box.
00:18:38
Speaker
So they played Martinez, Kansa, Carlos, and Torres, and then Cash and Dean, and then Camaro, Luis, and McGinn, and Diabi, and Watkins. Apparently, they're hoping that Jacob Ramsey is back for this game, which means he probably won't start. Probably won't start. If they play that 11 against us, they're not going to score more than a goal. Who plays left wing for them?
00:19:08
Speaker
They didn't, they didn't play a winger last week. Also it's, it's the Abian. Walk-ins up front who are two, like that's, that's 150 million plus of attacking talent. I'll give them that. Yeah. And like, I have my, uh, my takes about walk-ins, um, that like, you know, he's not, the reason that they were so good last year and why they rose to the heights that they did.
00:19:38
Speaker
was because he hit like the most obscene purple patch. Like if you look at his, like if the game log on transfer market, every, every game you're scoring a goal for like 14 games, I think he didn't score like twice or three games. And it's like, he's not going to do that again, but he is a damn good shaker and a lot to deal with. And if you remember, he has the Moyes, the Moyes check mark.
00:20:03
Speaker
So which is dangerous. You guys are dangerous. You do not want to deal with players with the Moyes trademark. The Musi Diabi, God bless him. He started well. Tim Syden had the opportunity to see him up close. He said, I had no thanks. And it's not even like he didn't want a left footed attacker because look what he went and did.
00:20:22
Speaker
Yeah, I know like that. Very weird, right? When the Diablo stuff was happening with Villa, I was like, kind of upset. I was like, you were, dude, be honest. I know a lot of that was like fake outrage, like for, I could never tell with you sometimes, man.
00:20:44
Speaker
Well, during the summer, I'm just getting mad at everything. That's what I mean. You love the exhilaration of just being upset at the transfer market. It's special, man. You only get that experience, what, two months out of the year? And then you get January. You got to make the most out of every bit of news that you get.
00:21:10
Speaker
I disagree, man. That's not the way for my mental state. You're nuts. At this point, I've let I've succumbed to the mental toll that it's you've built up a tolerance to the transfer window. I've embraced I've embraced all the clickbait. You know, well, you're not you're not quite Alan Rezeppa.
00:21:36
Speaker
No, I won't succumb to Ekram Konor tweets. That's the one thing I'm resistant to. Even when it's good news, I'm like, it's Ekram. He doesn't get anything right. He's never broke anything. He did break Ariola. That was the one thing I remember, is that he got Ariola. No, we didn't. Yes, he did. Yes, he did, because I remember that's how I got blocked by X.
00:22:05
Speaker
because there was an Ekram tweet and then an ex-update and he didn't mention Ariola and I was like clown emoji like how could you not mention Ariola?
00:22:22
Speaker
Dude, you're ridiculous. Thank God we have grown and since made good with our good friend X. Yes. Water under the bridge, as they say. Water under the bridge. That was ridiculous. That was a ridiculous summer. Everything that happened. Imagine Newcastle hijacked the Agar deal. Remember that? Oh my God.
00:22:47
Speaker
I wonder what we would have done. You would have had to go to Batman, right? Did they already have Batman at that point? No. He was like their guy, and then we were signing a Garrett, and they just kind of... It's like they just don't know what they're doing, or they don't know what they're doing. They're just like, they're signing him. That'd be some Asian talk, honestly, because it probably was.
00:23:16
Speaker
But I think there was some truth to it. I mean, they were probably sniffing around, but I feel like Bobman was always their guy. Yeah, I doubt it was ever as serious as certain people wanted to make it. That one I never fell for. Yeah, same. I'm still a little pissed off about the Newcastle game.
00:23:39
Speaker
Now that I say that, I mean, I'm a little irked. Irked is the word I'm going to go with. I'm irked. I was looking at the other 14, the baseline tracker. I saw we went down two points. And that was like a shot to the heart. Dude, that's a shot to the heart right there, yeah. But we're still plus 12 or plus 10. We're plus eight. Damn. Villa are plus seven. Well, dude, this is it. Well, they're supposed to win this game. They're at home.
00:24:09
Speaker
Yeah, so we can, we can, we can, we can go up and they can go to this is, this is for all the marbles. This is, this is I'm concerned. A baseline tracker, six point space on track. Well, dude, this is also like unironically a six pointer. Cause I look at the league table right here.
00:24:28
Speaker
They are in fifth as far as I know. Yeah, they're in fifth on 16 points. We're in seventh on 14th too. We could be level on points with them. So this is the thing that gets me about that Newcastle game and I won't let it go. So now that I'm looking at the table, I want to bring this up because I think that this, it's I guess like kind of obvious, but it's not something that gets like spoken about out loud.
00:24:57
Speaker
But teams that score goals are good. That's a dumb statement. But whenever you look at a league table for any season, you don't see a team that scores less than 50 goals being in the top seven. If you're not scoring, if you're not pushing 60 goals, you're probably not good. The only team in recent memory that I can remember doing that was, who was it?
00:25:27
Speaker
Wolves. Like last year, okay, Villa finished 7th and they scored 51 goals where they had that freak into the season where they were scoring for fun. 8th place Tottenham scored 70, 9th place Brentford scored 58, 10th place Fulham scored 59. And then the year before that, when we finished 7th, we scored 60 goals and finished 7th, Leicester scored 62. And then there was a 15 point drop off and there was 42 goals for 38 goals for
00:25:56
Speaker
And the reason I bring that up is that I was looking at the league table and you know how like Newcastle, West Ham, Brighton and Villa have kind of been separating from the rest of the pack with obviously United and Chelsea will be breathing down and everybody's next. Um, but in terms of goals four Tottenham 18, Arsenal 16,
00:26:20
Speaker
City 17, Liverpool 18, Villa 19, Brighton 21, West Ham 15, Newcastle 20. So that's all in one clump, right?
West Ham's Goal Scoring Consistency
00:26:33
Speaker
Once you go after that, the next highest scorers in the league are on 11 goals for, which is Chelsea actually scored 11 and Brentford have scored 11 and everybody else is in single digits.
00:26:49
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, we've done, we've actually done a really good job of like consistently putting a lot of goals. Yeah. I mean, we haven't, we haven't gotten blank yet this season, which is really nice. Yeah. Those, those always hurt. I cannot stand like being like, man, I'm excited to watch the game today. Like, like we'll score a goal today at least, you know, which is like a nice feeling when like you're good. You're like, yeah, like we'll score and like, I'll feel something.
00:27:15
Speaker
So there's nothing worse than getting blanked. Um, but I just thought that was a really interesting stat. Cause like we, though we have the least goals in that group, we're comfortably a part of that group of eight teams as opposed to the rest of the league who have barely broken 10. Oh yeah. And I mean, and I think it's a good sign for the rest of the season, whereas there are some underlying stats that don't necessarily love us. But I think that some of the way that we play
00:27:44
Speaker
just isn't geared for that, i.e. James WordPress.
00:27:49
Speaker
Well, well, the thing about the thing about the teams around us is that you got to count that Newcastle had a nine goal game in there or eight. There's eight. Yeah. Villa have some ridiculous like six goal games. They scored six. So Newcastle scored five against Villa and eight against Sheffield United. So 13 of their 20 goals have come from that. They've scored seven and the other six games.
00:28:17
Speaker
And then Villa scored six against Brighton, and they scored four against everything. Villa, to be fair, they've been generally on fire. But yeah, we've put the ball on a consistent basis. We've scored three, three, three. We've had two.
00:28:37
Speaker
And not only that, we're scoring first, which I think is really, really important. And like the main change that we've seen from this season to the last is that we're setting tone early. We're scoring first. We're letting teams react to us instead of having to like build up a reaction from within. Yeah. And like we said that last week that we scored the first goal in seven of our eight Premier League games and like really should have been an eight of eight.
00:29:05
Speaker
Um, I think the other thing that's uncharacteristic about this team is that we've, we've conceded 12 goals, which is joint second most in that 18 range bright enough, conceded 16. They'll have also conceded 12. Um, but I think that I, you know, I know that we conceded a lot of goals or not a lot, a lot, but a lot of goals like a moist side. That's good.
00:29:30
Speaker
on the 21-22 season. But I can't imagine this team not having a stretch this year, where we defend well, just considering how good Zuma is, how out of his skin as a shot stopper aerial has been. I want to talk about his all-around plan a second, because I think after the international break, it was a lot better. Yeah. And I think that the main reason, just on this point, that Mois has stuck with the Gaird,
00:29:57
Speaker
is that he believes in a Garrett as a defender which no matter what anybody wants to tell you about him he's clearly a very talented player and he has the Moyes check so that's another thing um but he's clearly a very talented player and he's not been playing that great uh but it's a lot of just moments that are killing him and I think that Moyes
00:30:19
Speaker
is thinking, not to use that word over and over again, but if he can breathe that continuity in the back line, just have these four out there every week. I think that he was trying to do, because we chopped and changed so much last season. I think that's why we struggled for a large part. Because teams that have that consistent four, really, they figure it out. And like, they are just so together as a unit. And I think that we're going to start seeing
00:30:42
Speaker
more clean sheets from us the longer the season goes on considering the fixtures are getting easier and these guys will have played longer together. And if Mavropanos comes in, he comes in. He was great for Greece tonight, by the way. Yeah, I didn't watch the game. I was following the sofa score and it seemed like he was an outlier. He was. But, I mean, with Agreed, it's really always been a problem with Ariola dating back to last year.
00:31:10
Speaker
Uh, their chemistry has always been kind of weird. Um, but especially thinking of the United game in the cup, um, they've always had something to iron out. And I think over time, like it just has to work. Like it just makes too much sense. Like these guys speak the same language. They're friends off the pitch. Like it's going to happen. Yeah, of course. The part of the French one, they have to be. Yeah.
00:31:34
Speaker
But yeah, and Aguirre was amazing last year. We haven't seen it yet this year, but there's been flashes though. Of course, of course.
00:31:48
Speaker
There's been as many good flashes as there's been bad flashes, not to cut you off, but the bad flashes, he's a defender. Yeah, but the thing is with center backs, there's no margin for error. If you make a mistake, it's a goal. If you make a mistake as a forward, you'll get the next chance. That's just how the game is. But I don't know. I still have faith in him. I do too. He's been getting better. He has.
00:32:15
Speaker
over the past couple weeks, he's been much better. I mean, I know a lot is made of Newcastle's second goal. And you know, there's stuff with the foul and Bruno should have been off and it's a lot of bullshit and I'm willing to
00:32:34
Speaker
I'm not willing to pin that goal on him. I think that that's ridiculous. And I think that that's just the scapegoating that this fan base needs, every fan base needs. I mean, there was a time when Man City were killing Gundogan, those fans. Every team needs a scapegoat. I understand it. But pinning that goal on him is nonsense. Even if you don't think it's a foul, like there are a million other things, like why the hell
00:32:58
Speaker
Why is Emerson so narrow? And okay, if Emerson is supposed to be narrow because he's defending the cross and he's shifted over, where the hell is Lucas Paqueta?
00:33:07
Speaker
Yeah. And if you watch the clip, yeah, I think it is because he was in the wrong. He just doesn't track that run that Trippier makes. He doesn't. And it's, it's, it's honestly like a super rare thing for him. Cause he, he all season he's been like dominating that area of the pitch. And then he kind of just put, takes a play off where he jogs and honestly came in blame because he, well, I was going to say, absolutely. It's a 90 minute game and these things happen, especially for a guy who you asked to do that much that we played a good
Game Analysis & Player Criticism
00:33:35
Speaker
team, man. And we can see the goal. It's just.
00:33:38
Speaker
There's plenty of blame to go around, including on the officials, but it happened. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's the same thing. Like, if you're a Newcastle fan, you're yelling at, was it Longstaff or Bern? I don't even remember who it was. Who just didn't, it actually might have been Gimmerish, who just didn't close down Kudos for his goal. And by the way, how weird is it just being like, oh, yeah, for Kudos goal for West Ham?
00:34:01
Speaker
It's like the same experience with Paquette last year. It's almost a little weirder, because Kudu's links felt stronger at points. Yeah, I mean, I like I found out about this guy's existence, like the beginning of last year. And it must have been the end of the season before. What did he break out? I don't even remember. You you probably would have heard of him like 2022.
00:34:31
Speaker
But like the season before and then like you would have been like, let me, let me tap in. And then the world cup and then he's playing for Ghana. And I think the first time I ever watched him play, if I remember correctly was the first Liverpool game in the champions league. And then the group stage, he scored that ridiculous goal.
00:34:51
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. My memory is crazy because for me, and like, I could be wrong. I should probably check on this because I'm not trying to lie. But with Ajax players, whenever they break out, I always feel like, Oh, I remember that name in the squad from when I was thinking about Anthony. Oh, when I was thinking about Haller. And I was like, Oh, like I remember that name. And then it's always like the guy before, like, I think of another example of that, but you know what I mean? Like you'll watch Ajax for like David Nerez and then like,
00:35:22
Speaker
I can't. I mean, that's how I found out who Anthony was, because he was watching IX for hilarious. Yeah. And then it's like, it all goes like that. And then you're watching Anthony and then you're like, who the hell is this guy? This is incredibly gifted footballer. The messed up part is that we know who the next one is. We could have had him.
00:35:44
Speaker
Who? I'm joking about Borges. They're terrible. They're finished. Yeah, IX is a thing of the past. They will be forever a reference in the past tense. I will remember their Champions League run and them selling us kudos and albras. Yes, I'm glad that it's us that put the dagger in IX. Yeah, they can enjoy the conference league. Well, it's funny because you know what, man, I'll probably
00:36:14
Speaker
make fun of each team in that group and be like, yeah, you're going to finish third at some point this season because I've done it with Ajax and Brayton a lot already. And at some point Marseille is just going to get a bum yang. And you know, they let Pyatt go. We finally could have played Pyatt. Yeah, they'll certainly. They'll play on our, yeah, for sure. But yeah, they will.
00:36:40
Speaker
I honestly struggled to blame the Newcastle defenders for the kudos goal. Yeah, but that shit was the same. And then you know who you blame for the first goals, this guy. But you know what's funny is people were, oh, he's one of the best goalkeepers in the league. And then he kind of came back down to earth and he hasn't played that well. And nobody wants to really talk about that. He is a human being. Yeah. What happens when he's getting, when he inevitably gets like replaced?
00:37:08
Speaker
That's, that's a long way down the line. I think for them, they have other things. They also have a lot of money. They do a lot. Who are they going to buy? What goalkeeper are they going to buy? I don't know. They'll figure it out. I'm sure they will. I think that they have other areas to fill. They're going to buy like a real winger at some point that they actually like and like want to play. No. Cause like, seriously, like you spend 40 million on Gordon. He feels like he barely played last year. He didn't score his first Newcastle goal until this season.
00:37:38
Speaker
Now he plays a lot and then you sign Barnes and. Isn't getting anything but six minute cameos. Well, he's he's injured for an extended period now. He was fit for a long time and they have the other one who plays left wing, don't they? Who? I don't know. I'm making shit up, actually. Forget me. Thinking about Saint Maxima. I hate that team. Can you remember ever going to play games you played yet?
00:38:08
Speaker
I don't, I don't think so. Him and, him and Ashby are both buried. Dude, they spent a lot of money on him to sit there and learn from Trippier, but to be honest, that'll probably work out. Yeah, I'm sure if he stays and he's, he's already a talented player in his own, right? He didn't need to do this. You think that they'll, uh, they'll send a left back. That's like probably next, right?
00:38:37
Speaker
I mean, no, like, no, Dan Burns, I'm not being disrespectful, but like, it's kind of like us with Antonio, how we talked about a while ago, where it's like, okay, like, we're really good now, it's time to replace him.
Newcastle's Transfer Strategy
00:38:49
Speaker
and then it keeps coming back up. I don't know. I think Danburn fits a lot with their identity of being a physically dominant team and having a guy who can be literally six foot eight and be athletic enough to guard wingers or to defend wingers in wide positions like that.
00:39:09
Speaker
I don't think that's something you really move on from. I just, I don't think this specific Newcastle identity will last. I mean, like how could be gone. He won't go this season, but he could be gone two years time. They could be looking for a manager. I just don't, I don't see it. Look, Eddie Howe is a fine manager. He's pretty good at what he does. He's definitely improved a lot since his warm up days. I'm not trying to hate on him.
00:39:35
Speaker
And he's had some big nights and, you know, coach Valverde and champions league, which has varying degrees of significance to me. Cause, you know, you tactically destroyed a team with Mbappe and like all that money, but also if Valverde kind of sucks. No, why do I call him Valverde? Is there a coach named Ernesto Valverde?
00:40:03
Speaker
Not that I'm aware of. Dude, this is what happens. You do the podcast late, man. I'm calling Val Verde. I'm calling Enrique, and they're still fucking Val Verde in my head. This is a random... That's like his first name. He's just like a regen, bro. He doesn't deserve to be called by the right name. I mean, that's the thing as I just...
00:40:29
Speaker
just don't care. It's just not a good coach. Anybody wants to tell me is can we can talk about the Spain World Cup and or the other one or the trucking Barcelona Champions League situations like let's be serious man or PSG this season like there's plenty of documentation that this guy is a fraud. Yeah, people want to hit that West Ham. Can we get serious?
00:41:00
Speaker
We've talked about this on the podcast. It would have relegated us, dude. Yeah, it would have been like Pellegrini days on steroids. On crack cocaine. Like just not what anybody wants to see. Can you imagine? We'd be screaming, kicking, clawing for David Moyes to come back. He would have brought in fucking God knows who he would have brought in. And he would have brought in another Santi Casora clone, and it would have just been Four Niles again.
00:41:29
Speaker
He would have brought in probably T. Le Mans. Dude. Can you imagine me getting back on that train? Just for him to come out the way he has for Villa would have been really cool. Terrible. It's crazy that we're playing our two arch nemeses. Our personal two arch nemeses.
00:41:53
Speaker
in the league back to back. I was thinking about that, but then I was thinking today, I was just like, dude, I hate every team in this league. I really do. I really hate. I just, I just have a gripe with each and every one of them individually. I can go down the list. I did. I was tweeting about palace today.
00:42:12
Speaker
That was the most random ridiculous shot I've ever seen in my life. It was real. Well, it was real. I just thought it. And I was like, yeah, dude, fuck them. I don't know. With Palace, it's different though, because Palace, that's like a little brother. You know what I mean? I probably have some of the least bad blood in the league for Palace, because
00:42:38
Speaker
we own them besides last year. Like they just cannot, they don't have any answer for us. They're worse than us. They're a little bro. They'll never finish over us. They'll never finish in the top 10. And it's just like, they're kind of cute, man. Like it's cute. What's going on over there and they can do whatever it is that they do. And as he can sit at home and watch Bowen play and the heroes of summer and
00:43:08
Speaker
everybody will be happy. Yeah, I mean, our relationship is kind of the equivalent of like, of like, somebody who's like taller than another person, like holding a ball over their head. No matter what, like they can finish over us. We went, we won a European championship like, okay, like playing Europe there do with the most embarrassing thing for them.
00:43:33
Speaker
is that Brighton is like perennial, perennially in Europe now. Brighton hadn't even sniffed the Premier League until 2016. And that that's like, that's like their rivalry. And now they're getting a little brode by Brighton and Hove Albion to get like 90 miles from the stadium, from the stadium, like 90 miles away from each other.
00:43:52
Speaker
I don't know if that's right. They had a rivalry with us. We got, we sung them. They gave up. They made up a new rivalry with a new team. Got sung by them. Dude, the Twitter rivalry is alive and well between West Ham and Crystal Palace. When do we play them? I don't know, but I'm going to mark it on my calendar. I'm going to be crazy that week. Like probably crazy. It's December 2nd. We play them at the Bowl.
00:44:21
Speaker
It's sandwiched in between Bakatopoula away in Serbia and Tottenham at White Hart Lane. So see how that game goes. My goodness. But no, but that was real. They'll never have a player who contributes to a goal on the same stage that Feketa did. Not many teams will. I don't think Villa will either.
00:44:48
Speaker
Yeah, no, they won't. They're, you know, slow breath. It's just not everybody can operate at this level that we operate at. You know, like you said, you got, you have West Ham, you have the Madrid's, you have Bayern. Like at the end of the day, we're going to be looking at the teams that are in that club world cup that's coming up and the teams that are like challenging for that. And those are the big clubs in the world. And I want to talk about that for a second. Can you imagine me go to that tournament? You kidding me.
00:45:16
Speaker
that like that talk has kind of died down but since then I mean we've won two european games what's funny about that to me it's it's one of those things in this sport and I don't know what it is about football um but it's one of those things where it doesn't really feel real and then it like kind of happens and like it's still not like
00:45:43
Speaker
real to you. And then it's just like a part of it now. It's like this fifth place thing. Not like a fifth place club admissions Champions League. Like, yeah, okay. People keep talking about it like
00:45:55
Speaker
Is it gonna happen though? Like do we know for sure? And there's like other examples of that in the sport. Even like they were talking about the conference league for like three years before it happened and I was like, yeah, that day will never come. Yeah, we won. Yeah, we won the damn thing. Yeah. And there's like the expanded Champions League. The Super League was that at one point until it became really, really real. Dude, that was scary. But yeah, and then there's
00:46:24
Speaker
Aren't the European formats are going to change like a league format? I don't know if that just happens in FM or if that's I think that's a real thing that's happening. I'm telling you, I'm pretty sure the Champions League format is changing at some point in the next two or three years.
00:46:37
Speaker
No, dude, it's with the fifth place thing. That's what it is. I'm pretty sure. Oh, really? It's next year. Are these adding new teams? I have to check on it, because I don't know, because I don't want to just quote it off, but they just usually have it set out. Like if it's happening, the game will just implement it. How it works in that is that it's a league format. It's like 32 teams. You play eight games of whoever in the league. And then the table, the top eight qualify for the round of 16. And I think
00:47:08
Speaker
8, 9, to 24, play a playoff. And then, yeah. That could be cool. Could be cool. It's something like that. I'm sure it's fine. But, yeah. Fifth place. Dude, we'll finish fifth, playing the Club World Cup, playing the Champions League. It's gonna be hell of a year. And then it all starts this weekend. Is the Club World Cup one?
00:47:38
Speaker
I don't know, dude, it's not a real, like, is this a real thing? It's just some time in the future. It's just something that people post rankings to and act like teams are qualifying for, but no one's ever said a word. It's okay. Yeah. It's in 2023. Oh God. So we like, Oh, oh, oh, this is, this is the, uh, the baby one, the baby one.
00:48:12
Speaker
And then what's the big one? It can't. It's 2025. Yeah. USA to host 32 team FIFA club World Cup in 2025. My God. My goodness. Coach Moyes will have his men competing for that. That'll be just another trophy to put in the cabinet. We'll be coming off the Champions League final. Yeah. Because that'll be next year.
00:48:43
Speaker
Well, and that year will be coming off the Europa League final. By then, we'll have plenty. We might be the top ranked team in this damn thing. We damn might well be the favorites. Dude, if we go to Europa League, I'm going to Dublin. We will be there. And now people know what we look like, so they'll come up to us. They'll be like, dude, I love hammering away, bro.
00:49:11
Speaker
Yo, can I get your autograph? Dude, that tweet that you had, it was like two retweets, like nine likes. It's crazy. That was one of them. Really good. Leave me alone, dude. Don't talk to fans. I'm just trying to enjoy the game, man. Let's just have a good time. I'm just a guy. I jade for this. I'm just a guy.
00:49:35
Speaker
Well, by then you'll be a guy with a beard, so there'll be reason to come up to you. I will specifically continue to shave so people cannot come up to me about hammering away. Oh, man. What else we want to talk about? We'll talk about Bowens. We'll return to the England squad. But what would you think of him? I thought he played well. I thought he touched the ball.
00:50:03
Speaker
It was annoying because Madison likes to hug that left side and build to that side. And then it was just isolating Bowen. And then whenever Bowen got the ball, he was super dangerous with it. He actually did. He looked a lot better than he did in the other England performances. He looked like he belonged, I thought. He was super, super confident whenever he had the ball. He looked a lot more similar to what we see
00:50:30
Speaker
Then uh that he did last time Yeah, he was kind of a show. He was really nervous last time you could tell but I think he's ready to make that spot is I think he knows how much of a shot he has now Yeah, he might start I won't Start but I think he'll play it was they play Italy Yeah I'm like pretty I'm like pretty mixed. I'm like what him not coming out of that game meant I
00:50:58
Speaker
Because on one hand, it's like, okay, they pulled all the guys who they think might start on Tuesday, they pulled them at the 60th minute. But at the other hand, there's really nobody to put on for Bowen. He really is the only true right winger on the squad. They might play Foden out there. Southgate loves to play Foden on that, right? I know, but I just feel like between Madison and Foden, I just don't really think that's a good fit.
00:51:27
Speaker
Just maybe Southgate doesn't care. Southgate probably doesn't care. I also just think that Madison was probably better for them than Foden is. I do not like Phil Foden for England. I just don't think he's ever been asked to really make a difference. And that makes me nervous about him. Just as like an England guy. When's he really blown you away playing for England?
00:51:53
Speaker
He played in that Ukraine game, but they smashed them for now, I think in Euros. Did he play well against Wales? I want to say he played really well against Wales in the World Cup. No. I can't remember if it was the World Cup or if it was Euros. I think it was the World Cup. But he started their first group game, got hooked, and then never saw it starting 11 again.
00:52:22
Speaker
I can't remember which tournament that was. It's hard, man. This England squad is really tough to get into. It's incredibly tough. But the thing that even just from a standpoint of he's not a Western player, I do think that Bowen offers them something different. I think he offers them something that not really any of their other wingers offer them. And like in a tournament setting, like if you're gonna have to make a sub and you need something different.
00:52:52
Speaker
You need that. And I think he impressed enough. He's a goal threat too, which is the big thing. If he can get a goal.
00:53:04
Speaker
And he also did a really nice job of creating chances for others in the England game on Saturday. You had a few dangerous cutbacks. I remember talking about that. It was on Friday. Yeah. He had those cutbacks. He's dribbling. He's doing all that stuff. He had one of the few shots that didn't come from the goal.
00:53:26
Speaker
He had the one, had her, he tried to go up for us over the question. He won that corner, just saying. That's what he does, man. He loves it. He knows how to win a corner. He's trying to tell Southgate, you know, you got to get, you got to get my guy out here. Him and James, we're proud he's going to hang out and leave Declan Rice, this damn tee by himself.
00:53:47
Speaker
Dude, I'll be sick to my stomach if those two getting in England squad and Declan Rice is getting all buddy-buddy with them. I'll be sick. I'll be so sick. Get away from them. Dude, he's liking pictures about kudos on our page the other day. Not on our page, on the West Ham page. You don't know him. You've never met him. You don't know who that is. He knows kudos as well as I know kudos.
00:54:14
Speaker
If if who sees you in the streets of London, he's he's looking at his phone. He's looking the other way. He's walking right past you about it. No idea who you are. And you know, Lucas Perchetti doesn't know how to speak English. He doesn't know you either. I agree. I agree.
Bowen in the England Squad
00:54:30
Speaker
He just started speaking English. No, it'll be really cool. No trouble. They're going to get the they're going to get the picture. It's going to be really cool to see Bowen and Rice chill the field together again.
00:54:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that's that's been something I've been looking forward to. It's a. This is two weeks. What? 16 days and we play Arsenal. The Caramel Cup. Oh my God. That's that's going to be. That's going to be a bloodbath. He's not going to start that game, is he?
00:55:06
Speaker
like you can't tell me this shit isn't rigged the fact that we drew oh no no no dude yo these rig these rigs these draws are always so spooky bro that you're gonna hear the fixtures every fixture has a narrative i'm not even joking every single one has has a narrative i'll read them to you caribou cup fixtures so there's rust ham arsenal do you know what the narrative is for that one
00:55:31
Speaker
Can you tell me? To explain. So this guy, Declan Rice, he was at West Ham for a while. I heard he sucked. Yeah, he's like whatever. Really, he's like, went for big money because he's English. Oh, right. That's the sideways password. Yeah, he goes sideways a lot. Doesn't really do anything. So he went to Arsenal this summer. The West Ham fans are pretty sad about it because, you know, they don't, we don't know what we're watching. We thought he was good.
00:56:00
Speaker
But now we've realized that he's, he's nothing. And now he's coming back and he's going to think that he's going to get a warm reception. And you know what? Damn it. He probably is. And he deserves it. And that's as far as I'm going to take that bit. So here's, you guys, because I'm not there. Man United, Newcastle last year's caribou cup final. Yeah. Arsenal. Declan Rice in West Ham. You have, uh, Deitch versus Burnley. So everything. Oh my God. Um,
00:56:32
Speaker
Then Mansfield and Port Vale, I'm pretty sure the two lowest ranked teams in the tournament. Okay. Um, I guess those young, I Bournemouth play Liverpool. Dominic's like, yeah, but like, there's enough. Cause like, no, they switched out. Bournemouth Liverpool, Liverpool got to go through. Yeah.
00:57:00
Speaker
Why do you say that? Because Liverpool. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they're making sure. And they didn't want to give them a tough lower league side and they gave them an away tie. So they fooled us. I'm not fooled. Okay, weird. This is new. So St. James's Park, right? Who plays there?
00:57:30
Speaker
I'm fucking Newcastle. Exeter City Stadium is also named St. James's Park. Really? Yeah. Just news to me, dude. That's crazy. I was like, why are they sharing that ground with them? They don't even think that that's near there. This international break is killing me. I'm so ready to get back and really have takes to get off.
00:57:57
Speaker
Seriously. One thing I want to mention, isn't it so crazy
Paqueta's Exclusion from Brazil Team
00:58:02
Speaker
that Paquetta is out of the Brazil team right now? I don't really know what to think about it. And if I'm being completely honest, I don't care. I don't care about him ever going to Copa America. He probably won't be here when the next World Cup rolls around. He gave good account of himself at the last World Cup. Keep him out of the Brazil squad. Keep him fresh. Keep him at home.
00:58:27
Speaker
Who cares? I care because I care about him. I was thinking about it today earlier because I had the same opinion as you. I was like, he's good. It's good for us. He stays with the team. But like, man, he deserves it. He's playing the best ball in his career. He's got to take another English class on Monday. Let's get serious. Dude, look, the gambling thing happened. If he was out of the squad because he was being left out, then I would feel a lot worse.
00:58:57
Speaker
Um, and obviously I want him to be happy. So I'd like, if he was in the Brazil squad, but we have enough guys, like we had Alvarez come back on Thursday, last international break. Bowen's going to play a game on Tuesday. Like, yeah, but I, and I get it, but just, just drop the West Ham ones for a second. Okay. I will be, I will be the objective, the objective stable mind as I always am.
00:59:20
Speaker
We need a conversation. We need it. We need it. And it's just the double standard is ridiculous because even though Anthony eventually got sent away, he was initially listed despite all that stuff going around about him. He's a terrible guy and player. Yeah, and he's nowhere near, he doesn't even touch Paqueta and what he did was a thousand times worse and he still got listed. All Paqueta did was get accused
00:59:50
Speaker
and baselessly accused at that. The investigation has come and gone. There's been reports of no evidence.
01:00:04
Speaker
And they still insist on leaving him out. Are we sure he's being left out just because of that? Or is it in tandem with that? Because the Brazil squad, they do a lot of weird stuff, especially when they aren't anywhere near a tournament. Guys get left out all the time.
01:00:22
Speaker
And I know they do but they they're also under a new manager and also playing qualifier games Over this international wearing. Yeah, so these are these are they're not the world but they they drew so They drew to Venezuela, I think and that was that was a qualifier game. They dropped points They look the thing about Brazil Is that they stink?
01:00:49
Speaker
And they can continue to stink if they don't want to call up a keto because the midfielders that they must be calling up without him there is just nonsense. Okay, Bruno Guimarais is obviously great. Kaz Miro, fine. You have to call him up. I think that they call you Andre Santos. Is that Andre Santos? Yeah, it's Andre Santos.
01:01:17
Speaker
I don't see another midfielder unless Vegas is a midfielder. I'm all over the place with names tonight, but yeah, Andre from Fluminese. What is this team? Because like, dude, it's nonsense. It's like, it's like, this is what I'm saying. I don't, I don't know why they do what they do.
01:01:43
Speaker
Okay. And maybe that does have some with it. It's something to do with it, but that this 11, this first 11 is Brazil. Like besides Alison, like this is Brazil. This is the team. They fielded for the world cup, save, uh, Gima Rashover, Percata and Gabriel. No, Gabriel. Gabriel just got his first Brazil call up recently. Oh, Gabriel. Oh, the center back, Gabriel. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:14
Speaker
Who played in the World Cup? Was it Silva? I couldn't tell you. Must have. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The point is, they're still feeling really strong themes. They're shooting themselves in the foot by leaving probably one of their best players at home. It's ridiculous to not have Piketto in that squad. Especially considering game versus Aaron Piketto just took him for a walk.
01:02:39
Speaker
Yeah, I mean if you're if you if you're paying attention, you know who the better the two is and it's not really that much of a conversation It's it's not let's be real He shouldn't even have been out there for the entire game. Yeah, he sucks Cuz you know the guy who he's also not in the conversation as true that foul No, I'm saying that war prowess is better than oh, yeah
01:03:09
Speaker
That I agree with. But.
01:03:14
Speaker
It's frustrating. He's by far the best midfielder they have available to them. And it also happened right. Him being dropped from the team happened as soon as the betting allegations dropped. It did. It did. That's why I'm thinking this is not just some random decision that they made. And if you look at the squad, who else is left out? It's just him. Yeah.
01:03:41
Speaker
Um one thing before we end because I just had this thought we talked a lot earlier about Antonio bullying these center backs. He's asking for the center backs But last week we said that we would drop him for kudos So we kind of let's have this conversation again for a second What do you do?
01:04:09
Speaker
Because I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. Did he go unchanged? Did he tell kudos to get a grip? Did he go unchanged? Come on. Dude, I think he might go unchanged. He probably will. Probably will. But I wouldn't mind.
Speculation on Future Team Selections
01:04:30
Speaker
I don't know what he's going to do. I hate this. I have no idea what he's going to do.
01:04:36
Speaker
Is it like what would be your reaction if you saw the team sheet and suit check wasn't on there? If kudos in the team, I'd probably just like be excited. Like that's the thing is like if suit check like honestly, because like you know, we can sit here and analyze it and everything. But once the team sheet drops, like if I see kudos name, I'm going to smile. I'm going to be excited. I'm going to hope that we get to see something cool. And then like if it backfires after the game, that's what we have this for. Yeah, right. We have somewhere to to talk about it.
01:05:06
Speaker
But I don't know, man. I don't care what he does. We talked about it. And in principle, when we were fielding our best 11, at this moment, we wanted to be, Antonio dropped over Schuchak. We both agree with this matchup. Antonio would give Torres hell. Especially if they're going to play a three, which they're probably going to play back three. They've played that a lot this season.
01:05:35
Speaker
I really don't think I want to see a team without Antonio. If it's going to be a back three. That's fair. I would much prefer to have Antoine. If I have to not be like, he's up to boys. If he thinks that they're going to play a back three, he should start Antonio. It doesn't mean that kudos can't play.
01:06:00
Speaker
And this doesn't even mean that if you drop suit check now and we win that he can't come back in the team for the next game. He used to do this with Ben Rama all the time. He'd start him, he'd play great, we'd win, and he'd say the next game doesn't suit you, kid. Back on the bench. Now that he's gonna do that with kudos, but you understand what I'm saying.
01:06:25
Speaker
Why don't you just go 4-2-3-1 and throw Peketa out on the left and let him do whatever it is that he does out there and just play how we close the game against Newcastle but with Antonio up front. So what? What's the front floor? Kudos instead of suit check and then you put kudos in the 10. Is this game even suited for kudos?
01:06:52
Speaker
the way they, the way they have all those physically competitive midfielders clogging. I think it is. I think, I don't think that games are, aren't suited for produce. I'm being honest. That's fair. His ball retention is something that's invaluable to really any Premier League side. And I think he's athletic enough to deal with it. Like I'm really not worried about Bubakar Kamara giving him an issue.
01:07:19
Speaker
No, yeah, we both agree. And like, and if he wants to float around, like, you know, he might actually be more suited for this game than what we're doing currently, because if they're going to play three center backs, he's another goal threat and a box threat. They're going to have to worry about. But then, you know, soo check arrives late. It's some ways to do whatever it is that he wants to do.
01:07:49
Speaker
Yeah, I guess what my concern was is that is there going to be that space to run into down the like the central channels? Uh, but mick in louise and and camara as as a midfield three I don't know I like if the space is going to the space is going to be where the space is going to be caused But he he keeps the ball. Don't you want that's true. That's that's true. You're right. You're right
01:08:16
Speaker
I'm just playing devil's advocate because if he plays to check them, I'm happy. If he plays kudos, I'm happy. I mean, theoretically, the space is going to be behind the full max because we know how they, how they operate, whether it's Dina, Moreno, and then cash, they both go crazy high up. And then it'll be like Torres and, and who, who would play right center back? Would it be Kansa or Carlos?
01:08:43
Speaker
Kansa and they'll be Carlos in the middle and then they'll be tourists on the left Yeah, like I kind of just really like the idea of of Antonio occupying those wide spaces. It's got it. It's got to be Antonio. I just think that Against the back three and against this personnel. It's got to be Antonio And then it's up to Moyes he wants to deal with it then away game and
01:09:12
Speaker
Maybe suit check. It's truly a headache. It's a good headache to have. We'll just use that phrase. It's a good headache to have. It is a good headache to have, but I kind of just want to not have this headache anymore. No, I don't keep the headache.
01:09:34
Speaker
Take an Advil. Headaches are annoying, bro. Advils get rid of headaches. No, no, no. Advils just start and collapse or something. You're going to have it. If you take the Advil, you're going to have it again in three days on Thursday. I guess. I don't know.
01:10:01
Speaker
It's, we've talked about this ad nauseam. Two check is like a shot of vodka for the headache. Feels good at the moment. Dude, you love it. That's what he does. And then you wake up the next morning, it's like, Kurus has like 20 Premier League minutes in this first two months. I don't even know what Antonia was when it comes to a headache. Heroin.
01:10:30
Speaker
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01:11:24
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01:12:16
Speaker
I mean, the plan is for every podcast to go on YouTube. That's cool. Yeah. Cool. It's pretty exciting stuff. You can see my reactions, my base reactions. This will actually be a very good thing once the games get going again. We're going to get really heated. Yes, we are. All right. Thank you everybody for listening.
01:12:59
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