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Hammering Away Ep #26 - Don't Panic
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On today's episode of the podcast, Jack and Joe discuss West Ham's festive fixtures, the January Transfer Window, injuries sustained in our FA Cup tie against Bristol City, and more!
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Match Analysis: West Ham vs Bristol City
00:00:23
Speaker
Welcome back to the Hammering Way podcast. It's episode number 26, as always. It's Jack and Joe here. I'm just gonna get right into it because I know that Joe doesn't want to talk about this, but we're gonna talk about the game that was today as we're recording this. West Ham won, Bristol City won. I'll let you start because I know that you have your own opinion and I'll just get into it after that. I don't even... I just... Say how you feel.
00:00:53
Speaker
This whole thing is a waste of time. The FA Cup really bothers me. Dude, this is exactly what I'm talking about. And it almost makes me wish that we recorded this right after the game, because I was heated at the game, and you were being a loser. And I usually use that term lightly, but you're a loser. The cups matter, dude. They matter.
00:01:19
Speaker
This one has been nothing but terrible to us forever. That's not true. I don't know, man. Today was pretty bad. Today sucked, but you know what the messed up part about it is we can go there, we can win on Tuesday. And then we went through it. We had 90 minutes and we still had all those injuries. Okay, yeah. The result today is a disaster.
Replay Implications and Injury Concerns
00:01:42
Speaker
Like there's no really getting around that. A replay is a disaster.
00:01:46
Speaker
but we play the Tuesday game. So we have five days between them and Sheffield United. Like if we don't beat, if we, we could play Friday and we should be Sheffield United. Would you rather have lost or done the replay? It depends what happens. No. Okay. I'll give you this. If we're going to go there on Tuesday and we're going to go to extra time,
00:02:16
Speaker
And then we're going to beat them and then we're going to get like bounced by like arsenal or not arsenal actually, cause they lost. But if we're going to go there, we're going to get bounced at like Anfield and like the fifth round, then sure. Fine. But we should be trying to win this competition. We should be trying to win every competition that we're in.
00:02:38
Speaker
And look, I don't know how you feel, but I was happy with the team today. I honestly, I'm, this is like hindsight 2020 for anybody who wants to slate me. But my one thing that I would have started a Obama instead of, um, for now is before now is played well in the first half. And I know Obama was terrible today, but like if he had played with Beketa, who knows or not. Yeah. I mean, in terms of the team, I guess like the one notable thing is like,
00:03:09
Speaker
Would you have started Paquetta? And I guess there's no really way to answer that because we don't know how he was feeling before the game. And I assume that- Dude, no, no, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that because he's fine. He was fine. He had a week long injury. He said he was out for a week. We played 10 days later. He's fine. He should play in the game that we don't have any game for two weeks. If we win today, the cup is important. We have to win this game.
00:03:38
Speaker
Honestly, there's no reason for him to not start that game today. I think it's ridiculous to question why he started. Because here's my other thing. He came off and we were horrendous. And when he was off, we didn't score a goal and they scored a goal. So if he doesn't start and they win one nil, now it's, oh, why didn't we take it seriously?
00:04:01
Speaker
we, that would actually have been a better result. But, um, that's stupid, man. No, I don't, I just don't agree with that. Well, back to what we were talking about. What is fine to you? He was probably, he probably felt fine to play, but if there was a risk of re-injury, then he shouldn't have been risked. Sure. But like, is not every player in the league banged up at the end of December, beginning of January?
00:04:29
Speaker
This is like every team just plays too many games in general. And like, I don't know, man, like he should play. Which is, you're right about the congested schedule and everybody's, everybody's feeling it, which is exactly why you shouldn't be risking players that are already have actual injuries. But man, like,
00:04:54
Speaker
He was cleared to play. Like, we wouldn't have played him if he wasn't cleared to play. We wouldn't have started him if the medical staff was like, hey, don't start him. It's not like we took some obscene risk and rushed him back. Well, I mean, probably more nuanced than that. It's probably like there is a risk of reinjury, but he can play. And we decided, OK, we'll take that risk. And we paid for it.
Fan Reactions and Youth Development
00:05:15
Speaker
But dude, I don't know. I just think that that's really grasping at straws. Because if he doesn't play and we lose, then it's just a different kind of disaster.
00:05:25
Speaker
And the other thing is he's probably fine. We'll see. He's the one I'm least worried about not being fine. The, the bone thing's a little scary. Um, hopefully there's good news on that tomorrow. I think my potatoes really messed himself up. Yeah. That's probably the scariest one to me in terms of like, I don't know. I were really in trouble.
00:05:52
Speaker
But if he goes down, especially while my ball guard is out. Yeah. We, and, uh, we would have kept the clean sheet today if you played the goal. I saw somebody blaming Obama for the goal because he didn't win the initial header. Like that's really grasping his choice. I don't know where it's like became like a popular thing to hate on this 18 year old kid. Was he, was he good? No, but he was bad. He was. Yeah. He was bad. But like people saying like.
00:06:22
Speaker
Yeah, like blaming him for the first goal. Like you wouldn't have said anything if that was Bowen, you know? And just the general idea of like, Oh, he sucks is very silly to me because everybody wants to give you the chance. And then
00:06:39
Speaker
youth has gets their comeuppance in a game or like learns a few tough lessons in a game, which is something that you have to expect and accept with young players. Now, all of a sudden, they're terrible. And I wouldn't mind if he got alone. Honestly, I think it's the contract thing because I saw people being like, oh, like if he thinks he's good enough, well, today he learned that he's not like, I don't think he's not accepting a contract because he thinks that he's some star. I think it's just negotiating.
00:07:05
Speaker
There's been no Harrison Ashby vibe of this. Not at all. Not at all. There's been other team mentioned. No. I don't know. It just falls into this weird trend that all West Ham fans on Twitter fall into, I guess, is that when it's time for a player to be in bad form, it's just
00:07:28
Speaker
everyone piles on and is relentless and doesn't see any good that they do.
Transfer Rumors and Team Dynamics
00:07:35
Speaker
Yeah, he did some great things today. And Ings is one of those people. Is Danny Ings playing bad? Is he a bad player? Yes. He's awful.
00:07:51
Speaker
disqualified for doing like a good thing on the on the field like no like he actually did all right today besides he was fine and like i mean he missed that big chance but other than that he was like trying to make things happen which was appreciated and the only thing i saw on twitter was like heating on danny inks i mean obviously like i don't care but i don't give it yeah i don't care it's just like weird and people
00:08:17
Speaker
like have some weird agendas. And the thing that's funny with Mabama too is if that ball goes through the keeper's legs and he scores, at least like 60% of these people are not like, Oh, he sucks. Because a lot of it's predetermined. Like, it's all pretty, I saw, I saw a moist negative talk today. Like I just thought that we didn't play well.
00:08:39
Speaker
which is fine, I guess. It sucks. I was very, very angry with the result after the game. If we got on here directly after, I would have been going crazy, but we're still six in the league and we're still in the FA Cup. I guess we are blessing and a curse. No, dude, I think that that's ridiculous.
00:09:07
Speaker
Like, what is the reasoning for you to hate this competition? Especially the FA Cup. There are weekends set aside for it. If you win these games, like you play over the weekend. I hate it because Paquetta's injured, Bowen is injured, and Mount Rapunas is injured. All right. But like, what if Paquetta and Bowen both started in Sheffield United? We'll see. We will see.
00:09:34
Speaker
And, and, and even if the, in the best case scenario, I'm out of panelists is still probably going to be out for a few months. I don't know. He, I just hope he didn't break his collarbone. It sucks. Cause he was really starting to find himself. I thought he was awesome. He's been awesome the past month. Ever since the United game, he's been really, really, really good. Yeah. Which yeah. I mean, I was, I was critical of him during his last stint of games, but he's answered every, every question I had.
00:10:05
Speaker
Well, now, I mean, I guess the thing is, are we going to have a new signing when we play Sheffield United? Because if he's hurt, they're probably going to panic and go buy a center back. Yeah. I mean, Igbana is so game to game at this point. Either he can be great or he can do what he did today and just cost us a game. I mean, and the other thing is that Zuma and Igbana are going to play on Tuesday, and then they're going to have to play on Saturday. Yep.
00:10:34
Speaker
I have no idea who you even signed though. Is Tilo Carer available? I mean, we haven't really picked any like actual targets yet. That's the thing. Bergeron was a target. Yeah, but not for center backs. No, I know.
00:10:57
Speaker
It's, uh, I really hope that he is not seriously injured. Like if he just has to miss the one or two games, fine. I can live with that, but I will say, I hope Morocco get blasted at, uh, the African combinations. What do you make of him? No good. What do you make of all this transfer tonic with the way nothing.
00:11:21
Speaker
Honestly, like, like I genuinely make nothing of it. The only thing that it means to me is maybe he'll go in the summer. I, I don't make much of it. And especially really make nothing of it after the mob upon us injury. But where is this even coming from? Like it sounds like he doesn't want to be here, which like, there's no reason for that. Uh, this, so, um, I just remembered to center back transfer targets who I want to get to, but I want to talk about the agar thing for a second. Cause there's a lot of hate.
00:11:50
Speaker
going on with him where it was like, Oh, he like faked an injury so he could go to Afghan. Um, I didn't do that much research into it, but from what I can tell was that he was sick with the bug that we had and he missed the Manchester United game. And then we played arsenal. And so that's maybe the game where he kind of like a chew.
00:12:17
Speaker
And then he's like, I can't play. And then he would have not been available for the Brighton game anyways. So to be honest, I don't really care.
00:12:28
Speaker
Um, it's not necessarily right. And if the coaching staff don't like it and they want to sell them in the summer and they want to replace them, that's fine. Like, especially if we make like profit or get all of our money back, he'll have given us everything. I could have really asked him to give us. Um, and then if you replace them with Trevor child bar or max Kilman, that's pretty cool too. Those are two really good center backs who are maybe better suited to a moist team. But then again, I don't think that a Garrett is.
00:12:55
Speaker
unsuited to a moist team, we scouted him always loves him for years. He refused to drop him for a reason. He loves him. And he thinks and he has been really good for us bar three or four games early in season. Um, the I just, I don't really care that much about him faking a sickness allegedly. I don't even know where that news came from. It could have come from X, but
00:13:21
Speaker
I don't buy it at all. I think it's total nonsense and just people not thinking realistically about the situation.
FA Cup Importance vs. Injuries
00:13:28
Speaker
And, and I just, we believe people, people love to hate him. He's one of those guys. And I don't know. I would like to remind people, and obviously one of these guys probably earned it more than the other, but Dimitri Piatt sat out, stoke away at the end of the 2015-16 season with
00:13:50
Speaker
What was allegedly a knock, but it was also rumored that he set it out because he'd wanted to stay fit for the euros that summer. Um, and then we didn't win that game and we finished seventh instead of sixth. So then we played in the, um, playoff round. We had to play qualifiers for the Europa league and then we lost to Astra Gogo. So, you know, like this is not new, I guess.
00:14:18
Speaker
But what he's like, I had earned that to an extent, but like, it just, we also won the game to know Matt Vupanos is a completely fine option that we trust. If he was still kind of sick and was like, I don't want to get hurt, like already sick, I can get over it. I don't know. I think it's, I think it's, I just don't think it's very likely that he did that. I don't believe that.
00:14:47
Speaker
Yeah, especially not him. I mean, in a way I can, cause he really does, he loves playing first country and stuff. Um, like a lot of guys do. Uh, yeah, to be honest, and it's probably because we won that I don't care. Uh, but I just don't think it's worth anybody's time discussing, especially because, um, he is a good player for us and he does good things for us.
00:15:10
Speaker
And he really helped us find this defensive form. He was the one who was in the team when we kept those first two clean sheets against Freiburg and Wolves. I really hope we don't find, um, someone that'll buy him. I don't want him to leave. He's not going to go in January. If he, if he goes in the summer, I don't, I don't want him to go in the summer either, but I can, I can live with it. Uh, I don't really like the idea of us not having left foot center back in the squad.
00:15:39
Speaker
Um, it's like, it's like, it's totally fine. If you start to write footers, I just don't like the idea of just being without one because it's important in modern football. It is an important thing. And we've seen that this season for us. He's a great passer. Yeah. He's been awesome this year. He's been so important in the buildup. He's, he's really not that replaceable of a player.
00:16:07
Speaker
Um, I don't think I say that is cause, uh, who I wanted to get to was the two center backs who have been most heavily linked. Um, Max Kelman and Trevor child, but like, um, both of them are right footed players and they're both good. I think that they both be really good fits here. I don't think either of them are better than a Garrett. We'll see. I mean, I don't necessarily, I wouldn't call them better than him right now, but at the same time, like.
00:16:36
Speaker
We've seen stretches of play from both of them, where they both look damn, damn, damn good. Yeah, they're definitely both good players. I think they're more Zuma cover than anything, because there was those rumors that they wanted to get him good cover. But then again, Mavropoulos is already here, and he's right footed.
00:16:56
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I think that Kilman, to be honest, would be great for us. I think he would be kind of like a Dawson type five, not just calling that cause he's white in English, but he is a very good box defender and I think he's, he's strong. He's physically imposing. I think that he could do really well here right now. If I had my pick right now, I think he would be the one, but he's going to be too expensive. I'd like to get a left footed guy in here, especially if it's a aware of a replacement. That'll be a summer issue.
00:17:26
Speaker
Even still, we need cover there at left center back more than the right. Obviously, because we have Matt Rapanos. I mean, I'm just saying if Matt Rapanos is down, I think that would be great. Totally forgot about that. I know we were talking about it two seconds ago. Yeah, dude. Man. We are so screwed if Paquetta and Bowen's injuries are for real. We can make it to Bournemouth.
00:17:56
Speaker
on the 28th. I think it's the 28th. We can make it to Bournemouth on the 28th with just like Bona and Zuma. We really need Kudu Sia Baus in the group stages. Yeah. Well, you know what's funny is if Paquetta doesn't go down, we're probably not even having this conversation.
Team Tactics and Youth Challenges
00:18:14
Speaker
We were playing really well. We started great. Yeah, we were suffocating them. The field tilt, man. The field tilt was there.
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we really need to bring in somebody, somebody that can kind of fill in that role when Paquetta's gone to be like kind of the orchestrator of a master possession. I don't know if there's somebody out there that can do that. No, that's not what's gonna, we have to evolve. When he goes, we have to, well, we just, do you need to, in my opinion, when Paquetta goes,
00:18:56
Speaker
you need to get a left winger who can play football, right? Then you probably bring kudos into the 10 and you push bone back out right. And you have a striker who can play and then you have a pivot that can actually work. And then if you don't want to do that, especially like Ward Prowse, like whatever you think of him, he was signed to be able to play that role. Um,
00:19:20
Speaker
So we should probably get a chance at it eventually when we go to it. Obviously, it might not be ideal, but OK. Then you keep kudos on the right, a put bone up front, and you have war prowess in the 10. You still need to sign a player in that position at that point. Because as good as Stu check has been at times this season, that is the place where we have to upgrade. We've had a few performances recently that have really not been up to par. Obviously, today comes to mind
00:19:49
Speaker
large parts against Brighton and Liverpool and Sucek was stuck out like a sore thumb in each one of those games. I thought he was atrocious today. But like I'm not even gonna kill him for it like we used to because he's had a good season. It's just sometimes he doesn't have it because this is that's not who he is.
00:20:10
Speaker
And it's usually very, very clear from right, right from the start that this is not going to be one of his games. And he also moist. I thought the tactics were interesting today too. And it's a shame that the cut that went down. So we can't really talk about that as much. Um, but he was playing through the middle as a false nine and then he had to check right behind him. And then it was war prowess and Alvarez deeper. Um, and picket does assist came from like.
00:20:39
Speaker
very deep. So it was, it was fun watching him drift around for the 10 minutes he was out there. It was a shame because it was also like Moyes was testing something and experimenting and we were getting a good look at a thing that we've seen succeed in the league, but never from the start. Yeah. Yeah. Like maybe for, for some appearances of like, like for like little cameos, uh, to close games and stuff, but it would be nice to see. And even, and even just an option because like.
00:21:06
Speaker
So he had to check behind them today, right? Now imagine he did pick up the upfront with kudos behind them and then Bowen running off him from the right. When we signed this alleged left winger, that would be like, it gives us another option. Um, so it's like kind of a shame that we didn't get to see it play out for 90 minutes. Um, I was excited for, uh, Obama to get his chance. It sucks that he didn't really take it.
00:21:34
Speaker
But again, I just don't see a reason over yet. These things happen. Like not every youth player is Declan Rice. And another thing that I would say to people, it's a lot harder to look good as a kid, playing as a striker, especially for a moist team than probably any other position in the world. Uh, Dean Ghana, when he first broke through was really exciting, but he was up and down throughout that Pellegrini season. Um, Ben Johnson was really slowly bled through. Um,
00:22:04
Speaker
and was playing for, honestly, a dog shit side for his first five games in Project Restart, which probably helped him stand out too. Rice is a freak of nature. I can't remember any others that we've had breakthrough. And Gakia is another one. Like when you're playing in defense, it's almost more about not making a mistake. Whereas in that front line, especially as a striker, you're there to make the difference. And Obama is a kid. Like the holdup play will come because
00:22:34
Speaker
he has the size and the frame, he's going to grow into his body. I think people just have to be patient. Yeah, I mean, I felt bad for him because he was really pressing by the end of the game, especially when he ran out to the right wing, he's like, yeah, desperate to try to make something happen. And it's
00:22:51
Speaker
It's really hard. It's definitely the hardest place to make the jump from the youth level. For sure. And I think what you just said really encapsulates his performance today. He was pressing. Because you could see as the game kind of didn't go his way, when he got the ball, he really started looking for it and he wanted to shoot and he wanted to make a difference so bad.
00:23:14
Speaker
Um, and as, and he's young, so doing that was actually a mistake that made his performance worse because of how desperate he was to make that difference. Like when he cut inside and he just ignored Ben Johnson, the overlap and he fell down plenty of times. And the, the specific time when he fell down was just, it sucks. Cause you can tell that he wants to make something happen.
00:23:42
Speaker
but if you force it, you're never gonna get the chance to make something happen. So he'll learn and he'll be more patient. I'd rather him do that than hide. For sure. Yes. And the big thing is that I think for him playing in such a dominant youth team where he is always getting chances and always scoring goals, it's probably gonna take some getting used to.
00:24:05
Speaker
playing Striker at this level, not even for just a Moyse team for any team, because Strikers spend lots of games isolated sometimes. So like, if anything, I'm, I'm happy he got the learn out there today and play 80 minutes. I'm really happy that Moyse didn't sub him. And I think that that shows a trust in his actual ability. Whereas with Oda Baku, I don't think Moyse ever really rated him. Yeah. There's, there's a lot of faith.
00:24:33
Speaker
from Moyes to Obama, which is really nice to see. And to allow him to make these mistakes. Exactly. And maybe it doesn't work out for him. Maybe it doesn't. That would suck. But to write him off at this point is crazy. Yeah, he definitely should get along, though, I think. Next year. You wouldn't do it for the next half of the season? He's not going to go.
00:25:02
Speaker
We've just had too many injuries and with the San Antonio thing. And then if Ings goes with, if the center backs are a problem, we're not going to sign a striker. We're going to sign a center back. The only way he should go out on loan this window is if we sign a striker in my opinion, which I don't think we will. And cause the other thing is like, look, he's not playing a ton, but he's playing minutes here and there. And he's training with really good players every day. He's 19 years old.
00:25:31
Speaker
He has time. He has plenty of time. Yeah, there's really no rush. As long as you can get the contract over the line, I'm not really worried about him that much.
Player Growth and National Team Prospects
00:25:42
Speaker
At this point, to me, it feels like there's been some kind of breakthrough where both sides want to get it done, which, again, is so different from things we've seen with Harrison Ashby and other players, like in Gakia, too, is another one. So I don't know. I just think that the hate was a little premature today.
00:26:01
Speaker
But we should move on to happier subjects and we can talk about Arsenal and we can talk about Arsenal versus West Ham and we can also talk about Arsenal versus Fulham. We can talk about Arsenal versus Liverpool in the FA Cup. And we can talk about Declan Rice, letting another trophy slip through his hands today. Yep. He's going to be, uh, he's going to be enjoying that community shield for a very long time. I hope he goes home every day and he bites that stupid medal.
00:26:32
Speaker
How funny is it was him, uh, posting on his Instagram story for new year's with the community shield instead of the Europa conference league saying it's been a great year. To be honest, like. Yeah. People took that and ran with it. It's mad funny, but it's also like, what do you think he's going to do, man? Like plays for arsenal. Uh, missing on the good parts of the year, not the bad parts. Mm-hmm.
00:27:01
Speaker
He was so bad against us. The penalty was truly a cherry on top. And for Ben Rama to wink at him and then miss a penalty is the most underrated, ridiculous moment of the season. Nobody talked about that. He winked at him because I even, I watched it back and I looked to see where he was behind the penalty taker. He is exactly where Ben Rama looked, right over that shoulder.
00:27:25
Speaker
Wow, I actually didn't even notice that. That's so funny. He winked at him and he took the worst penalties taken and God knows how long. Top 10 highest, most respect moment in football. Dude, we let Saeed bin Rama take a penalty in a game that was over when Jared Bowen is in a goddamn Golden Boot race.
00:27:54
Speaker
Can we get any less serious? Honestly, like if we can't help Bowen out right now, he's got so much to play for beyond us. He's chasing that England spot. I said to you today, especially at the beginning, and even throughout the game when he was, he had a tough game after we get the one off, but he still thought he tried. He tried and he tried, but... He created that big chance for Sutra.
00:28:22
Speaker
Yeah, forget like getting in the England squad. Dude, like he's going to play a part for them. He's really, really good. And I've said this on here before, he's taken another leap from whatever he was two years ago or at the end of last year. Like this is, he's just, he's got his head up more. He looks forward more. He is a better eye for a pass than he used to. He's got these little one twos that he likes to play.
00:28:46
Speaker
He's going to help England at the Euros this summer. He's going to help them. He's such a mature player, you know, like, yeah, he really is just like in really the last year, just really come into his own and like is, it's just like a, such a reliable player.
Midfield Dynamics and Tactical Flexibility
00:29:04
Speaker
And it's not even a debate anymore that he's going to go to England. Uh, just how big of a role he's going to have in the squad. Cause I mean, you can't,
00:29:13
Speaker
You can't just leave off the top England goal score in the Premier League. Yeah. He's going to play a part and the word mature that uses completely right. And I would go back to actually him being left out of the world cup squad with the way that he started last season. And he talks about that a lot, um, as a point of like, where he was like, I just have to focus on myself and what I can, and what I can do and stop looking at bigger picture stuff and like getting into the England squad.
00:29:42
Speaker
And a lot of guys would let that destroy them. I think that that's only made him so much stronger. And it's probably driving him to get into this hero squad deep down. Yeah. He's been, uh, ever since the end of the world cup, he's been on the since he's been Jared Bowen again. Yeah. It's been a joy. I was just about to say something. Oh, um, talking about the arsenal game.
00:30:09
Speaker
And this is something I've actually been thinking about for over a week that I've wanted to mention on here. James Ward Prowse. His motor is insane. I've never seen a player. I guess Bowen's another one, but like he never stops.
00:30:30
Speaker
And people love using that. First of all, he never stops. He's always running, blah, blah, blah. And they love using that just for really any player that tries. But we're proud. His motor is a skill. He's such a good presser. Nobody ever has a second on the ball when he's around. And man, I can't get enough of him sometimes. And now he played a pass against Arsenal where he received it on the touch line and he kind of cut it back across the field.
00:30:58
Speaker
like around the corner. I don't know if you remember, it's a long time ago now. It was actually might've been in the buildup to our goal, but he just, this is the absolute best case scenario with him, obviously, but like, I cannot get enough of him as somebody who was really out on signing him over the summer. Yeah. I mean, he's been, he's kind of just been making this whole thing work. He's, he's,
00:31:27
Speaker
He's almost like the centerpiece of everything we've been doing since our form uptick. Um, we haven't scored a set piece goal in a while and we scored. Oh, right. Well, other than that, we've been, we've been pretty dry, but even despite that, like.
00:31:47
Speaker
I can't, you won't hear a word out of me about him. He's been, he's been so good and he's been taking way more responsibility on the ball. Like in like getting us out, like relieving us of pressure. Yeah. He looks, he looks really comfortable here now. And I think maybe, um, that's almost what that was when he had that little weird patch of form when Alvarez was kind of bad at the same time. Yeah.
00:32:09
Speaker
And he was just playing those passes. So really since that assist he got against the Piacos, it's the passing has really come along. He played a pass against Spurs. That blew my mind passing his arsenal that I just talked about. He played a few today that were great. He's been, yeah, it's been spectacular. And the, his, and like I keep saying the word motor, but it's what drives me crazy about him because to have somebody who's that willing to run and that effective as a runner.
00:32:35
Speaker
He's just not, he's not just running around out there. Like he's an effective runner. He's closing down space. He's hurrying people. He's helping press and you pair that with Bowen up there. It's, it's a nightmare for any team that's trying to build up out of the back. Yeah, I agree. That's, that's the thing though. Like you can't really drop him. So what are you going to do when, when we signed in, um, a left-winger?
00:33:01
Speaker
Why can't he play deeper? I thought he played all right today. Um, he wasn't great, but I thought that was more down to the team performance around him. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think that he can play in a pivot. I think that there are times where that pivot may be exposed for its lack of athleticism, which is why you sign another player. So you can have competition for those two places. I just think he's just so much more effective in that 10 slot.
00:33:31
Speaker
In my opinion, he's for this game where we are right now. Yeah. He's more freed to do the running that makes him so effective. Well, I think that that's, that's the part about him playing in that 10 that makes him so good that I think people may overlook is they think that he can't impact the game with the ball from deeper. I think that he can just fine. Um, especially if Peketa were the 10, because then they could just kind of swap and like do their own thing.
00:34:04
Speaker
But I think the thing that makes him most effective as a 10 in our system is that he's able to just run freely all around the pitch and like lead that press. I think that's so good. But kudos can play that role in the 10 leading the press. And I think that war prowess can operate in a pivot against plenty of teams. I think the issue for him in the pivot is that athleticism is such a big thing in midfield. Now, it's almost
00:34:29
Speaker
A bigger need in that position than technical quality now is to have some like elite athletic trait, um, which makes it difficult for him. But like I've been saying, like we're building a squad, right? So the whole reason that we couldn't even rest players today is because we don't have a squad that we can trust. We have 13, maybe 14 players that we can trust. If you do have other guys and those positions that you're able to rely upon.
00:34:59
Speaker
It's doesn't take away from him to say like, Oh, he might be dropped sometimes. If like he's not playing where he needs to play in that pivot or who knows like the left-winger that we sign can be dropped. They don't have to start every game. Like I trust Moyes. I want to give Moyes the best players and the most options at his disposal that he can have.
00:35:27
Speaker
and as much tactical versatility as he can have, and I'll allow him to make all the decisions. And he's a little WordPress fanboy, so it's probably nothing for him to even worry about. But I just think that it would be good to have those options. Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, me personally, I think we should upgrade that position next to Alvarez and get another, I mean, if we can get Fofana in over the summer,
00:35:56
Speaker
I would aim elsewhere, to be honest. I think Fofana and WordPress could operate very similarly. I would almost want somebody more pragmatic next to Alvarez. Why is that, considering how pragmatic Alvarez is himself? Well, I would want, if it were up to me,
00:36:17
Speaker
And it is. I don't have any names on the top of my head. So whenever I'm probably going to say some like crazy names that are really good. I'm not saying that we can sign up. Just as an example of a profile. Yeah. So you have Alvarez who's like the sitter, right? If you can play somebody next to him, he's a ball carrier destroyer type. We've had one of those play for us before. I don't know if you remember his name. I don't. Declan Rice.
00:36:45
Speaker
or something like, or like an Angola Conte type profile, somebody who can carry the ball and help progress the ball in that position, but is also a very pragmatic and strong tackler and like wins the ball back a bunch and is an elite athlete. I think that that helps us more than someone like Fofana who is capable of breaking up play and stuff and is a good midfield player. And if we did sign, I might be very happy with that.
00:37:13
Speaker
But I think that he also is somebody who like WordPress. I get the most joy out of watching Yusuf Afana when he's like pushing up the field. You know what I mean? And looking at what he wants to do. Yeah. So I think that him and WordPress are almost a little bit too similar.
00:37:31
Speaker
Um, where it's like, like I'm totally fine with either one of them playing in the pivot. But if you're signing someone specifically to play in that pivot next to Alvarez, because you want a different option than WordPress, you feel like it may not be perfect there, even though he can play there. And he's done it before throughout his career. So I think it's a little ridiculous to question that too much, especially the original idea is probably the play in there. Um, I just think that you should go for a profile. Who's gonna.
00:38:01
Speaker
be a physically imposing, Amadou Anana is another one, a player like that. Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna say. Or like Kone. Yeah, he's that much in Gladback, right? Ibrahim Kone. Is his first name Ibrahim, or am I getting him confused with somebody else? I think there's a different Kone than Ibrahim. I'm gonna look that up. But yeah, a profile like that to me, oh yeah, that's the defender who plays for, or I have no idea who this is. He's like Konas.
00:38:30
Speaker
Ibrahim Kone is a professional footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Maltese Premier League club Hibernians. Oh, that's who you're thinking of. Yeah. Yeah, man. I know who that is. No, I have no idea who this person is. Oh, I'm thinking of Ibrahima Kone. Kone, who is a... Do you think of Ibrahima Kone? No, I'm thinking of Ibrahima Kone. He's a striker. He plays in Spain. Yeah, he's like a nothing player.
00:39:00
Speaker
But I've seen his card on FIFA before, so. Nice. Go for him. He's really bounced around. He's been in Norway, he's been in France, been in Spain. Nobody gives a shit about you for him a corner. Look, when is he on? He's placed for Almeria. I've never heard of him a day in my life, and I'm not afraid to admit it.
00:39:28
Speaker
No, I don't know his game. I just know his FIFA card. He's got to be better than Antonio. I'll tell you that much. I agree. I agree. It's a joke for anybody who loves Antonio. If you could sign any two players in this window, who would it be? Hmm.
00:39:57
Speaker
I need two players. Just a left footed center back. No, no, no, no, no. I want names. I don't have a name for you. I want names. All right. They don't have to be linked or they don't have to be. I am putting you on the spot a little bit here. Do they even have to be available?
00:40:25
Speaker
I mean like no, I mean like what is available to you? Can I say Harry Maguire? They have to be attainable. He's kind of somewhat attainable. No, he's not. They're tanking. He's the dream. In the summer, I honestly think that we'll get him in the summer. I have no answer for you. Some center back that can play on the left.
00:40:55
Speaker
Just pick a different position. Uh, Smith Rowe and Andre. All right. That would be crazy. I would love for us to take a chance on Andre men. We'll see. He has no, he's kind of a sitter, but he has that passing range where you could probably play next to Alvarez and it could work. And, and I'm like a firm believer in getting like a backup.
00:41:25
Speaker
For Alvarez, that's just as good as Alvarez. There needs to be another option to play at six. And Moiz does this thing when we're chasing games. And I get it, because they're both goal threats, where he takes off Alvarez, and he leaves to check in WordPress on. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. It bothers me. It's really disgusting to watch. And I thought not to kill Moiz or anything.
00:41:55
Speaker
Cause I thought that the team he picked was right. And then obviously Paquetta going down and my piano was going down. It makes things really difficult. I thought that the triple change was ridiculous. I thought that we were building momentum and not just took the wind out of ourselves. We were, we had no plan after that substitution. Yeah. And you know, I, I appreciate them trying and throwing the two up front and everything, but I thought that the three in midfield was where we were, you know, we were keeping the ball and we were,
00:42:24
Speaker
really starting to apply pressure. And he did kind of put the sub off for five minutes. He did. I would have preferred if it was just cornet. I don't know. It's tough. Has Ben Rama on the bench today? Yeah. And he picked cornet over him? It's interesting. That is interesting. I didn't even think about that. I didn't realize that at the time I figured something was up with him.
00:42:53
Speaker
You think they have something worked out for him? I think that that Leon interest is very, very, very real. I would honestly be surprised if he was in the squad for the Sheffield United game. Him and Obamiang, it's going to be something
European Competitions and Fan Culture
00:43:10
Speaker
worth watching. Christ almighty, dude. No, no, Obamiang's at Marseille. Marseille, right. Excuse me. Him and Lacazette. Him and Lacazette. Yeah.
00:43:21
Speaker
Yeah. The vibes will be crazy. I guess so. No way, like, is that an abominable plan for those two rivals? Man, those two are such clowns. Right? Like, there needs to be a show about them. There was. There was. There was. I guess there was. There was something. It's OK. That was the year, right? Yeah. It was the year that they, that, like, abombing got suspended. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my god.
00:43:53
Speaker
Do you remember, um, the year. Where, uh, if Arsenal didn't have a bombing goals, they would have finished like 16th or 17th or something. Yeah. That was like, that was ridiculous. Was it like two years before they were, I think that that might've been the, um, the Emery season. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That might've been the year that they won the FA cup and it was Emery and Arteta. That's what I, that's what I'm thinking.
00:44:24
Speaker
That was funny, dude. That was so ridiculous. It's kind of crazy to think back to him being really, really good, considering how much of a train wreck his last month or two was at Arsenal. How much of a train wreck the last three years were for him before he went to
00:44:49
Speaker
Yeah, he had to stretch at Barcelona. His career doesn't make any sense to him. No sense at all. He failed at Arsenal and went to Barcelona. So who's he played for? He's played for AC Milan. Borussia Dortmund. Barcelona. Chelsea.
00:45:12
Speaker
Oh, that Chelsea stint like completely like just I think craziest thing about that. The craziest thing about that is to sign him, put him on those wages, and then sack Tuchel like before he made an appearance. The whole signing was Tuchel's idea.
00:45:35
Speaker
Yeah, like he wouldn't even have been a target if it wasn't for the fact that Tuchol like has already coached him is like and was like, I need a pole like him and he's available. So do it. A lot of these teams have done some nonsense business. Those those three teams, Arsenal, United and Chelsea, they just like do these. I don't even know what the hell is going on at United, man. They stressed me out.
00:46:05
Speaker
Yeah, right. Like, like, like, they like seemed like, all right, last year. And then they spent 200 million pounds probably upwards of that. And they have more holes in their squad. Their their wide players really confuse me. It just doesn't make any sense. They have they legit have bottom half wide players when Rashford is moping around like this.
00:46:36
Speaker
Mm hmm. Like when they're doing this thing where they bench Rashford and they go, Garnaccio and Anthony, it's like, how are these guys? He's a talented kid. It's just he's young. Like he can't be relied upon to give goals and his sister Manchester United. Every week. It's ridiculous. Like he's the main goal output, basically. Because Anthony is nothing. He's nothing. And then Hoyland didn't score forever. That guy.
00:47:06
Speaker
I don't know what to make of him yet. Don't ask me. Yeah, I think he's all right, to be honest. I don't actually see that much wrong with him. Same here. I don't see anything that's that amazing, but he does something as well. He's got the makings of a good striker. Yeah, he's got the physique. He has like instinct and touch. Instinct and touch. He scored
00:47:35
Speaker
It was the one goal, I forget who it was against. It might have been Gal Taserai, or I don't know, it was one of those games at home in the Champions League. He was offside, but he kind of received it and swiveled. I can't really describe it. Was it in the league? No, because it would have been a second of the night. Oh.
00:47:59
Speaker
It was almost like, and I might be wrong saying it like this, but do you remember the goal that Bowen scored against Tottenham in the Carabao Cup? I know, I know the exact goal you were talking about. I just don't know who it was. It was one of those games that got attached to our game at Old Trafford was electric, dude. I actually really hope that we don't get them in the Europa League. I don't think our players could withstand going to that stadium.
00:48:27
Speaker
They can barely play at home. Dude, they look scared every time they played at home in the Champions League. Yeah, I mean, they're all in danger. Legitimately. And it's crazy because it gets the same way at the basketball game in that country, too. And there's a roof over your head there. That shit's scary. Yeah, like when they're setting off the flares and like... I was going to say, you mentioned like you're shooting a free throw and there's just a fire going on behind the bench. My God.
00:48:55
Speaker
Bunch of white dudes yelling, no pyro, no party. That's the English. When I went to the next game the other day, they gave me those little balloons. Yeah. And I don't know why. Oh, behind the? Yeah, behind the basketball. But you were one of those people, dude? Yeah. For anybody who doesn't know, at NBA games or college basketball games in America,
00:49:23
Speaker
if you're sitting behind the basket, do they leave them under your seat? How does this work? Yeah, they leave them under your seat. Yeah, so they leave these two balloons that I would describe as they're just probably a little longer than your arms, right? And they're just blown up and they're like sticks. And basically, whenever anybody on the other team is shooting a free throw, you're expected to just stand up and smash them together as hard as you possibly can.
00:49:53
Speaker
I was doing it. It never works, man. Hey, man, the first time I did it, Andre Drummond split his free throws. It's Andre Drummond. Can't shoot free throws. Yeah, but he made the first one when I wasn't doing it, and he missed the second. So when I was doing it. I almost feel like guys shoot a better percentage when people are doing that nonsense. Put that shit down.
00:50:20
Speaker
But I guess my point in bringing that up was just comparing that to setting off flairs. Yeah, setting off flairs, yeah. Poor Wilfred Zaha. He thought he was playing in a good atmosphere because some dude was playing a drum at Selhurst. And there's just fires everywhere every week. Well, was it Turkey or was it Greece where the fans were banned because they tried to kill that referee? That was Turkey. Maybe they'll still be banned if we play them in Europe.
00:50:51
Speaker
Maybe. Can we bring away fans? It's just like 2000, like a narrow script. 2000 in the corner, just going crazy. Bunch of Gal Taster, our fans waiting outside the arena for everybody. Just ready to kill all of them. Yeah. My God. How far do you think we can go in that competition without? We're going to win the thing. We're going to win the thing? Who's going to be, who's going to be Leverkusen? Uh, Liverpool.
00:51:20
Speaker
Who's gonna be Liverpool? Leverkusen. I don't know, I don't know. What are those teams we'll just have to beat? Here's how it's gotta go. Here's how I see it. We need AC Milan. Actually, okay. This is what's gotta happen. I'm gonna give you the script. We need Leverkusen to beat Liverpool
00:51:50
Speaker
in the quarterfinal. Then we need AC Milan to beat Leverkusen in a semifinal. And then we need to play AC Milan in the final. I'm so cool with that. That's like the dream. We would beat them. We would play them off the park. Mois would have such a fucking plan for them, dude. Are you kidding me? That team, they can barely score on their own.
00:52:20
Speaker
Can you imagine a Moiz deep block in fucking Dublin with everything that we've ever dreamed for on the line? Liao would have no plans for Kefal, no plans. Liao actually, dude, the way that Liao plays, I think Liao might kill himself at halftime, playing against a Moiz deep block. Dude, because people love Liao and I think he's great too. But the way that he plays and the way that he can drift in and out of games based on how he feels in that current moment,
00:52:50
Speaker
Like, I actually think that he would be on genuine suicide watch. Look what it did to Declan Rice. Yeah, he made him emotional and gave away a pen to Emerson Palmeri.
00:53:06
Speaker
Dude, that was so funny. Just like the camera going around and showing them all smiling. Like, Dec had like the wry smile on his face and then Emerson was laughing. Saeed's fucking winking at the guy. What the hell do you think you are, man? A guy who's not going to be here for much longer. That's what we think
Premier League Rankings and Player Debates
00:53:27
Speaker
he is. What month and what year is Ben Rama going to score his first Leon goal?
00:53:35
Speaker
January 2024. He's gonna say November 2020. No, he's gonna score his first goal immediately. There's gonna be really, really annoying discourse. And then he's actually gonna score for like another 40 games. That's really there. Honestly, dude, there should be no discourse about panorama, no matter what happens. There shouldn't be a word.
00:54:03
Speaker
Yeah, we should actually never think about him again. Collectively just go on as if he never existed. We never paid the fee for him. He never he scored in the final. He did do that. He just appeared that day. That's all that's the only thing that needs to be discussed. He's a trivia fact. Who scored the first goal in the European Conference League final for the West Ham? Sayid bin Rama. That's a Brentford legend Sayid bin Rama. Do you remember they were complaining about Watkins celebrating against them?
00:54:34
Speaker
and they posted the video of Benrahma scoring. They're like, that's how a real legend acts. It's like, dude, this guy sucks, man. Like calling him a legend. Neil Mopรฉ and Said Benrahma, Brentford legends. You know, it's a credit to those two that they didn't celebrate their goals against Brentford because they never score. Yeah, like they were probably dying to celebrate. Like they never score. I mean, Benrahma,
00:55:04
Speaker
I actually, I don't know if we've said this on here. I think the whole thing where people are like, oh, Ben Rama is just playing the same way this year that he was last year, but there's no penalties to cover it up. I think that that's nonsense. I think he actually had a decent year last year. He scored a lot in the cups, dude. Yeah. He scored a lot of important goals, both like penalty and non penalty.
00:55:29
Speaker
The penalty against AC is the most underrated one to me. Fucking thrashed that into the side netting. And we needed that one. We needed that one. That was like 60 something minute. That was the one. I think that one in Arsenal where the two where I was like, this is the one where he's missing. Yeah. The AZ one was by far the one I was like most nervous for. I was like, he's definitely going to miss this. I was more nervous for the conference league final one.
00:55:56
Speaker
But I just, I knew he was going to bury it. I knew that ball was going to hit the back of the net. I like, I kind of, I kind of knew that he was going to miss this most recent one. I was like, this is the one he misses and it's okay. Like this is, this should be the one he misses. Yeah. He, he, the way he ran to, ran up to it, I was like, Oh. Yeah. Just like your watch is over. It's okay. Just.
00:56:22
Speaker
It's time for you. We didn't even word proust, man. We know that word proust is going to take the damn penalties if Ben Rama's not on the pitch. Just let him take it. I mean, I guess Paquetta. It's only Paquetta. Paquetta. But Paquetta was hurt. Yeah. He's the new pen taker. Ben Rama. He will give us a farewell with a penalty off the post and pens against Bristol City on Tuesday. I don't think he'll get a chance.
00:56:52
Speaker
Now you won't, you won't see a field. Uh, so I did want to do something fun with you and I should have told you about this beforehand, but you can do it off top. It's the middle of the season. I'm going to ask you a few questions and you tell me what you had before the season and how you feel about it now. Okay. Who did you have winning the league? Arsenal. How do you feel about that? It's going to be Liverpool. Yeah.
00:57:22
Speaker
They look pretty good. Or city, depending on how Katie B comes back and when he comes back. If Arsenal are able to get Tony, would that change your mind? Or even lay out? I don't think either are in the realm of possibility. They should throw the bank at Brentford, dude. They can still do it if they had somebody, because they just, they play so wide. Everything goes wide.
00:57:54
Speaker
I think they're just going to have to end up paying double for Tony in January because they desperately want to keep him for the summer. Yeah. This is how bad they've been. They've been terrible at him. I don't think Arsenal are out of this title race though. They need a result terribly. I think that this break is going to be good for them.
00:58:17
Speaker
Yeah, they're definitely, this is a definitely worn down squad at this point, but who's gonna, like, who in this team is gonna reverse the trend right now? It has to, it has to be a signing because, like, obviously Rice has been one of the signings this season. Timber going down kills them.
00:58:34
Speaker
Yeah. But the Haverts thing is just it's ridiculous, dude. Like, look, he's not good. But he's also he's not the worst player in the world. But they don't use him right this left center mid thing with him. He's a fucking striker, dude. Like, I'm sorry. Like, it's it's it's such nonsense. He's like, Sue check out there without the ball winning. And the aerial ability. He he was a failed experiment. And
00:59:00
Speaker
Arteta's hubris is kind of just forcing his hand to keep him in the team. It's crazy. And it's been a disaster. They could've spent 65 million on anybody. They could've used that money on Mason Mount. Black Rice and him would just be hanging out, talking in the midfield, little game went on around them. Don't need either of them. Man.
00:59:25
Speaker
Remember people want to sign Mount to keep race around. But I do think Arsenal can do it, but they have to sign somebody, even a left-winger because Martinelli is just pathetic right now. He's been, he's had such a terrible season. It's proven me right. Yeah. Proven you genius. It's too obvious, man. Everybody's watching them last year. Use your brain, not your eyes, kid. All right. So what's the next question?
00:59:56
Speaker
Um, signing of the season. Um, I guess for both. I mean, rice was kind of the signing of the season and still is dying. Yes. He still, he absolutely still is. And I would, eh, kudos giving them a run for his money, man. JWP.
01:00:26
Speaker
for the whole league. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, I thought you were. I was, I was trying to play devil's advocate, but yeah. Yeah. And kudos kudos is given. He's the it's him. There's another one or two. What can't think of left on my head. And it's not cold. Before the, maybe van de Ven before the injury or Madison van de Ven and Madison, Madison is another one who would be giving him a run for his money. Um, van de Ven.
01:00:56
Speaker
Not to gush about Spurs on here, because I'm just not going to do that. But Van Der Ven is probably one of the most underrated signings this summer. He was starting to get his plaudits right before he got hurt, but he's a freak of fucking nature, man. Yep. It was a joy to see him go down. Bottom three. Bottom three? I think I had Fulham in there, which is crazy. You did.
01:01:25
Speaker
and they end up five nailing us but they should be down like this is like this is getting crazy now this this front like this their attack is pathetic it's legitimately pathetic and Marco Silva has a um Marco Silva has a savior king dude yeah i i don't know he really he just gets off on just taking guys who are terrible and fixing that is this team like even particularly broke
01:01:56
Speaker
that they, that they're, yeah. You broke money wise? Yeah. No, they, they spend fees that they need to be saved. They, they, they, they, I think that they did have to be a little careful with their money this past summer. Um, they were going to get Hudson adoid too. Remember that? Yeah. That would actually would have been amazing for them. No, it wasn't really good for them. So they got, yeah. And then, and then, uh,
01:02:24
Speaker
I guess they're definitely not going down. Everyone had Luton going down. I don't think they're going down either. Well, three teams have to go down. Sheffield, Burnley, and Palace. That'd be pretty cool. Right, those teams are all down there. It's going to be a bloodbath fight. It's going to be like the Hunger Games cornucopia for Eze if fucking Palace go down.
01:02:55
Speaker
It's just going to be like 16 teams in firm. Their Palace are six, six points over. And yeah, balloon have a game in hand on them. Not that it matters much. It would warm my heart if Boris went down. I don't think for so low down. I think they got I think I think that they're worse than Palace.
01:03:25
Speaker
Everton low key have stopped picking up points. They'll be fine. They'll still, they'll be fine, but they're not the hot team that they once were. Yeah. Thank God that that nonsense is over. I think that, uh, that Carabao cup quarterfinal kind of took the wind out of their sails when they lost the full amount of penalties. It would be nice down.
01:03:52
Speaker
Biggest, do you want to do disappointment or surprise first? Who would you have picked? Who would you have picked? And who would you say? Team first. Biggest surprise team? Us, dude. Yeah, no, yeah. We've been insane. I guess I'll survive some villa. Yeah.
01:04:22
Speaker
But even there, I'm not going to do that. They're kind of coming down to earth, though, as well. We will put them in March for eighth place. Yes, we will. Who did you say before the season? Did we talk about this? Maybe. I don't think we did. I don't think we did.
01:04:52
Speaker
So yeah, biggest surprise of the season, I'd probably say Bill or us. Um, at what point it was Tottenham, but they seem to also, they do that. Um, do that thing sometimes. Yeah. When they're not in the champions league. I mean, they're also just allowed to play nonsense teams early in the season all the time. For God knows what reason. Yeah. Liverpool impressed me a lot.
01:05:23
Speaker
They've been amazing Trent has been the clear cut best player in the Premier League Don't do that. Yeah, probably gonna do that. Don't do that Who is don't do that? You're gonna say rice is the best player in the league No, I can't right now I'm just gonna say solid cuz I'm just not gonna give it to that guy No Trent is definitely better than saw
01:05:51
Speaker
I would say with such confidence. I am. He's just more consistent. Whatever, man. It sounds better on him. Put your GA on the table. The game is about goals, kid. Most assists ever from a defender. Ever. From a defender. Going up against god damn. Not defending. He's playing in midfield.
01:06:20
Speaker
We're defending there, wherever we are, we're defending. No, I mean, I'll give it to you. He's the best right back in the Premier League. He's really got an argument for best Premier League right back of all time. It sucks, because I used to make fun of people for saying that, but it's there. We are here. We have arrived. Especially if they win the league again,
01:06:48
Speaker
Him and Salah and Van Dyke, all three of them are in a Premier League all-time 11, if they win the league this year. Probably, and there's a strong argument for each of them already. And it's pretty sickening to think about that one era of Liverpool has three guys in that 11. I think I already put them there. I think Van Dyke and Trent are like,
01:07:18
Speaker
Very, very solid. I think that Salah is the most solid one, dude. What the hell are you talking about? I'm not saying Salah is the third best. Salah is one of three players to ever score 150 goals for one club in the Premier League. But who would you put in over Van Dyke? Who would you put in over Salah?
01:07:46
Speaker
I guess that's fair. I'd have to think about it. I was going to say we can come back to this next week. Yeah, we can put a pin on this. And we can do a whole all-time 11. And I think both of us will have those three
Season Predictions and Managerial Changes
01:08:02
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in there. I'll try and find a way to knock them out. I'll put goddamn Gary Neville in there. I'll put Reed Morris in there. Fuck yeah, dude. Make my vibes all-time 11.
01:08:15
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Mars and Piatt, you kidding me? Ben Rama. Mars, Piatt, Ben Rama in the hole. Three of the same player, if you ask me. Absolutely. People are saying we get in the next Piatt when we sign Ben Rama. It's ridiculous. All right, biggest disappointment. Burnley. Yeah, company's a fucking clown.
01:08:46
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Is Chelsea a disappointment if I was great this whole time? No, no, no. Chelsea not a disappointment. Company has to give it up. But whatever the hell that he's trying to do over there, play a different way. You're going down. He's a fool and you'd be surprised. If you didn't already know, company spent like a
01:09:16
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his career, his career in the Premier League, you'd think he'd have no idea how this league works. He does. He's, he's, he's doesn't have played for city the whole time. Exactly. He's got no idea. He's learning. He's a young manager. He'll, he'll learn his lesson. I don't think that they'll sack him if they go down unless they finish bottom. Hmm.
01:09:42
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No, he'll bring them back up because they're good enough to play the way he wants to play in the championship. He'll bring them back up. They did the same thing with Deitch however many years ago. They came up, they went down, they came up. I would reevaluate him. I'd have him on a very short leash the next time they're in the Premier League. Oh, yeah. And I would have him on a short leash during the championship season too. You better get us automatically promoted.
01:10:12
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I think they, I think he would though. That's the thing. He is legitimately a good manager when like he has the talent for it. And they walked that league. Yeah. Yep. Walked it. But I would give them a month, the year.
01:10:29
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after they come back and just to be like, like, are you going to do that same bullshit again? And if you all like, we're going to bring in somebody like a real Premier League manager. We're going to bring in Roy Hodgson. He won't be a pass at that point. Be dead. They're going to wheel him out. They're going to have him on FaceTime. They're in the game. We coach on Zoom. On that note,
01:10:56
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01:11:25
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Hyper.
01:13:04
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So.
01:14:13
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Thank you.