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Hammering Away Ep #24 - Left Foot, Do Doof
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On today's episode of the podcast, Jack and Joe discuss West Ham's 3-0 win over Wolverhampton Wanderers, Mo Kudus' scorching hot form, if this is a "Golden Era" for the club, and more!
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Transcript
Lost Episode & Security Concerns
00:00:23
Speaker
Welcome back to the hammering away podcast. I know it has been a long time. We know it has been a long time. We had some technical difficulties with our last upload, which is now a lost episode, which nobody can even find it. Can you imagine if it was like a, I didn't introduce Joe yet, but Joe, can you imagine if somebody could find that episode? That would be really concerning.
00:00:49
Speaker
considering it's just, it's just on our devices. It would mean that someone would have to like hack into either my phone or your computer. It's not even on the cloud for me. It would actually, you know what it is. Cause it's with Owen. So what if somebody could hack Owen and instead of like getting all his work information, they would just take hammering away episode 24. That was a good episode, dude. I had a lot of fun in the episode. Yeah.
Zencastr Upload Issues
00:01:20
Speaker
That's going to be our first Patreon exclusive. Yeah. We actually made that joke on that episode. Yeah. I can make a Patreon exclusive. Yeah. Yeah. Actually I have some takes from that episode to get off. Oh, tell them about the, tell them about the, the sound effects.
00:01:38
Speaker
Okay, I don't, again, I don't know if these are gonna work. In some way, I actually blame these for not working, but that doesn't make any sense, because that's not the part that it failed at. It failed through the thing that we used to upload them. So there's random sound effects, right? And I think maybe that had something to do with it failing, because it was right when Zencaster, the platform we used to record, transferred to making people have different plans to record.
00:02:08
Speaker
Um, so we get these little sound effects now and that lost last week. Oh, I thought that was going to like continue on. I thought it was going to be like a consistent piano in the background. Yeah, that sucks. You should, you have to just keep pressing your fingers. Just like pressing it over and over while we get sad. But, um, we have a new sound for one of our favorite players, Mr. James WordPress. And it goes something like,
00:02:38
Speaker
Hell yeah.
James WordPress & Performance
00:02:40
Speaker
And dude, James Wertmuss is pretty damn good. And the plan is to make that noise every time he is mentioned by name. Yeah, I'm sure our viewers will really enjoy that. It's so obnoxious. I'm actually probably going to never click that button again. I'm going to remind you to click it.
00:03:05
Speaker
He was good today. I'm not gonna say his name, but he was he was really good today Yeah, he was phenomenal. He brought he runs and he runs dude. He was um, I thought he was even better on Thursday against Freiburg Yeah, like he's like really Kind of like finding his role right now at West Ham like in open play like obviously the dead ball stuff translated immediately but now he's like, you know kind of finding things to do and
00:03:35
Speaker
Both in the game the final third and mostly as a 10 That's been a really great adjustment But yeah, so he's fine right now. It was the second half of the Spurs game Which I mean at halftime I've you missed the first half of that game, right? Yeah, cuz you had a final Yeah at halftime. It's probably the worst half of football we played this season and People were saying oh like we just came out with more energy in second half and in some parts we did but we were pressing them like from the front
00:04:05
Speaker
that whole second half and it was a lot of it was led by him and Bowen and I think since then we found a really good shape to press with obviously the foam game was a disaster but we were sick we had no Alvarez whatever and then Freiburg and wolves it's the same story as the second half of that Spurs game where we're just pressing and pressing and word process a big reason why that press
00:04:28
Speaker
Um, it's successful because between the two wingers, Peketa and Kudus, we're both great athletes and like can actually defend, especially Peketa. And like Kudus is great at like the kind of defending you'd expect the winger to be good at, like pressing and stuff and tracking back. And then Bowen, we know how good he is pressing from the front and you throw word prizes. He's so energetic, just never gets tired. It's unbelievable. And I think.
00:04:57
Speaker
When Sucek was playing further forward, that was our issue because Sucek is good at things. He struggles a lot when we try to press teams. He's actually the reason we conceded the goal that was disallowed today.
Conor Gallagher's Potential
00:05:12
Speaker
Yeah, he was pressing, wasn't he? Yeah.
00:05:15
Speaker
Well, I mean, and he has to, it's not his fault. It's just like how, like if we're going to play like that, like the other center man is going to have to come up at some point. Um, and he comes up and he just gets baited by Konya who just kind of flipped it around the corner. And once he does that, we have nobody to recover. Um, and I don't know if I can really blame anybody else for that goal. Not that it's like.
00:05:34
Speaker
Totally suit checks fault. It was like Yeah, it was a yeah, it was a great goal But if I had to signal anybody out it would just be he's not athletic enough to do what he was being asked to do there Somebody like Connor Gallagher might be Somebody like Kone Dude, I think I think Gallagher really good there if they were willing to part with Gallagher's contracts up in 2025 and
00:06:02
Speaker
I just don't think Gallagher is that realistic anymore. He's just too- I don't think he's that realistic. Bully is weird. This is Todd Bully that we're talking about. Pochettino said he wants him to stay, but then he also said it's up to the club. Which is weird. You don't hear managers say that. That whole thing, and Pochettino said that a few times at Chelsea, this is just on them.
00:06:30
Speaker
Like when you hear Moi's talk, like especially like Bone, like we'd love to keep him or like this, it's always we, we, we. With Pochettino, he says, I, and then he says, but it's the club's decision, which is, it's bizarre. Yeah. I mean, the thing is they, they kept him in the summer and that was really a risk. And they're weird. He ended up, he ends up having great starts in the season.
00:06:58
Speaker
probably one of their most valuable players right now for
West Ham's Set-Piece Struggles
00:07:01
Speaker
what that's worth. But yeah, I just don't see him. I just don't see him leaving. I'd love to have him though. He's a damn good player. Yeah, I mean, I don't see it either, but that's the thing, is that he fits like a damn glove. The only thing he doesn't have on Suchuk is Suchuk's goals, which I would like to see another one of on Wednesday. He's due.
00:07:22
Speaker
He is due. It's been more than two games. A set piece goal at Anfield. Do we haven't scored from a set piece? In a while. In a while? Because we didn't score from a set piece against Spurs. We didn't score from a set piece against Freiburg. We didn't score from a set piece against Wolves. Who did we play before Spurs? Before Spurs was... Palace. Didn't score from a set piece. And then Burnley.
00:07:51
Speaker
Like we technically did, but not from like a Ward Prowse like swinging. We haven't scored from a set piece since not enforced. But last time we scored from a set piece was the last time we recorded a podcast or posted a podcast, I should say. There you go. Put your bets in James Ward Prowse says. Dude, I thought he, uh, scored that free kick today. I thought that was, that was the, the, the, the writing was, I don't think he's ever going to score free kick for us.
00:08:21
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we said that and every week is further proof that it's never gonna happen. Dude, I feel like we've thought that since before he was even announced. It's just the way it goes. He could be a great player for us. He'll just never score a free kick. We spoke about this in 2021. He was never gonna score a free kick, bro. He got linked. We were like, yeah, he'll be great. He just won't score a free kick. Yeah. Dude. Honestly, like,
00:08:51
Speaker
If we had Ben Rama taking him, just saying, probably would hit one by now. Dude, the way he took him last year, though, like for real, I mean, he scored the one against Andrew, like the one against 9-4s was...
00:09:05
Speaker
the best free kick-up season somebody takes for so long. Cresswell has scored some damn good ones, but that one against four has moved me. Unreal. Shook the crossbar. Dude, we finished like fifth last year, if that lands two inches over the line instead of two inches on the line. Our whole lives are completely altered. Rice is probably still here. Rice signs a new contract. That one of the 90th minute whistle blows, he puts pen to paper.
00:09:36
Speaker
He thinks he thinks he thinks it's Dimitri Byatt. He thinks we signed Byatt. We score the free kick. Then he steps up to the spot. Decconry steps up to the spot.
00:09:47
Speaker
And he hits it. He scores. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. Dude, Jesse Lingard had him red. I cannot believe he pointed the way he was going. You know what, man? For Lingard to not celebrate against us when he scored for United, right? Awesome. For him to tell the goalkeeper which way deck is going, that is betrayal. It's a knife in the back. But the thing is that Lingard's beef with rice is specifically in this context.
00:10:17
Speaker
His beef with Rice is because Rice stole his watch. No, it's because he stole his penalty. Oh my god, dude. I forgot that that happened. And I forgot he gave him one, and he missed it. Exactly. And then he scored it. And then, um, Moyes was like, don't ever do that again. And then two months later, Jesse Lingard was taking on their penalty for us against Newcastle. Why did Rice get taken off him?
00:10:45
Speaker
No, he, he was hurt. He was hurt. He was hurt. He got taken off them after the forest. Yeah. Cause he missed the one in, uh, in West Brom the year before, which I maintain was a fine penalty. That was a fine penalty. Like he's unlucky at the post, but the forest penalty take Lingard out of the equation. That was one of the most spineless penalty kicks I've ever seen in my life.
Player Critiques & Moyes' Management
00:11:10
Speaker
Absolutely. Just for a player that plays with so much authority.
00:11:15
Speaker
Yeah, right. The penalty he scored was pathetic, too. It was like in the corner. Actually, no, I think it actually wasn't a side net. I might be being mean to him. No, that was a good penalty. He had taken only good penalties until the Forest one. Until the Forest one.
00:11:34
Speaker
We were just messing around with Rice man, putting them on corners, putting them on free kicks, putting them on penalties. Like, was he asking for this? Or was Moyes just kind of seeing like, what can this guy do? And just like, you see his moving on to great players who are here. The quote about Paquetta is beautiful. It's like, it's because it kind of, people,
00:11:59
Speaker
We'll call him boys a dinosaur and stuff, which is ridiculous because, you know, like he's shoehorning him in on the left wing. Like, no, dude, like it's a very like complex role that he's playing out there. Um, and part of it is just go do your thing. But like Emerson and word pouse, like there has to be things in place to handle that. And word pouse will go out there and defend. Um, Emerson has so much responsibility. It's insane. Um,
00:12:27
Speaker
But Moyes, what did he say? I think I texted it to you earlier. He said he's in his old age or something like that. In his wise years, he understands sometimes with players with that much talent, you just have to let them do their thing. He said there needs to be a bit of leeway, is what he said. I read you the full quote. Hold on. The full quote. He's a special player.
00:12:55
Speaker
I've not had a huge amount of players with that amount of talent. There's a bit of leeway we have to give him. As I've got a bit older, I realize when they have that talent, you have to let them flourish. He's right, man. And you know what? He gives him a lot of leeway. It's been a genuine point of growth from him, because he's not always shown that leeway with talented players that he's had. But I do think, to another point,
00:13:24
Speaker
Like there's talented players and then there's Lucas packets. Oh, for sure. And I think that that also plays a part in this where Moyes is like this guy is because even listening to Moyes talk about him before we signed him, like we didn't think we could get him. I think he said to the media, he didn't think that he would be available. He never talks about players and press conferences. He's talking about all the positions he can play before he's like even in the building for medical last year.
00:13:54
Speaker
Like, he loves him. And the fact that people act like, it's the same thing with Stuy then, just cause like in your head, like Paquetta is some flair, I mean, obviously he is, but he's like some flair modern player and Moise hates that. That does not mean that those two don't get along. That's crazy. It's actually quite the opposite. Moise, more, more, Paquetta might be Moise's favorite player.
00:14:22
Speaker
He's definitely one of his favorites. He's going to be one of those when like Moyes is done. Whenever that might be. And you know, at this rate, he might die on the touchline for us. He might die at the lemon state. I hope so. Dude, that's the way I want him to go out. Like a peaceful death. No, like a last minute winner. Like party back arrest. Actually, that's a terrible joke to make this week. Because thoughts and prayers with Tom Lockyer. Or is that his last name?
00:14:50
Speaker
Do we have a report? Do we know if he was... He's fine. He's fine. Dude, stop. That's not even funny. That is not even funny. Bro, it's crazy because people really ask that question.
00:15:11
Speaker
Everybody listening are 75 tonight. No, dude. Matt Lockyer vaccine. It's not his first name. What is it? It's Tom. Tom Lockyer vaccine. Stop it. Let us know. Somebody did tweet. They said the vaccine strikes again. I was like, that has got to be the most like
00:15:36
Speaker
It's crazy that I make a joke about it and it's one thing, but people legitimately, it makes my joke less funny that people legitimately feel this way. Dude, it makes your joke less funny because it's like... I already saw that. Somebody already said that. Like in absolute earnest. What was I saying about Moyes? Oh, Piketto would be one of those players when he's done. I think he's an all-time Moyes team.
00:16:08
Speaker
I mean, I guess, well, there's the United years, but like, it doesn't count. He gets into that team. He does get into that team. Like he, they don't, they don't want to admit that he gets into that team. He's about to get into Pep's Manchester city team. We're going to talk about. Oh yeah, dude. Oh yeah. Pep's Manchester city team, dude. They're so great.
00:16:29
Speaker
Now they're not. They need him. We needed those three points. That was a six pointer as far as I'm concerned earlier in the season. Yeah, we're going to be kicking ourselves that we didn't beat Man City at home. You know, if we had beaten them at home, if we didn't, because I'm going to phrase this in a way. If we didn't drop those points, we had a lead at halftime. If we didn't drop those points, we'd be a point behind them. That's so crazy. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy that Bill are ahead of them. I don't want to talk about them.
00:16:59
Speaker
I'm not talking about Assembilla. I'm boycotting Assembilla. If they're still in a title race when we play them in March, I will not watch the game. Hey, I actually agree with that. No, I'll watch and I will be- We certainly won't be covering it. Distraught when they wipe a suicide.
West Ham's Adaptability & Goals
00:17:18
Speaker
Imagine they won the league. No. I would go on a hide- I'm not gonna do that. Alright. It's not gonna happen and I'm not gonna worry about it.
00:17:27
Speaker
If it was called anything like Lester's thing, I would be furious. They spent so much money. Like if any, like of us, like Villa, Newcastle won the league and they're like, it's a Lester. Like, no, no, no. Like Lester were like, got promoted. They were relegated that April before they were down. They shouldn't have even been in the league. Yeah. Like it's just, it's not worth talking about.
00:17:57
Speaker
I wanna talk about just going all the way back to the Burnley game for a second, because that's actually, this is, I said to you earlier, I wanted to talk about this again, because I think it's a point worth mentioning, and I don't think a lot of people have talked about it. There's a part of it that doesn't have as much, like it's not as seeped in reality now, but I'm just gonna say it. So after we beat Burnley,
00:18:24
Speaker
and Forest and those games. It was like a run of games where we were on, where we were getting good results, but we didn't really have control over the games the way that we had control against Wolves and against Freiburg. And those games were even more impressive because we had a lot of the ball, especially in the first half today. But I was saying that I think how this team is different to some of the other Mois teams that we've had at West Ham so far is that
00:18:54
Speaker
We don't control games as well as particularly in the midfield. There's obviously a big reason for that. One of the best midfielders on the planet left. And as good as word prowess has been, you know, there have been struggles in different games with his play and open play. I think he's been, ever since Spurs, he's been really great. Fulham, I'm just not even gonna act like that happened. But he's been great. Alvarez had a long stretch where he struggled.
00:19:24
Speaker
He's probably sick that had something to do with it. But again, starting on Thursday, he's been great.
00:19:30
Speaker
And then, a shoe check has been good, but what I'm getting at is that while we've had less controlling games, I think that we actually have more ways to win. There are more players who can win us a game in this team than we've ever had before. Because when you look at Bowen, he's always been a match-runner for us. Kudos. The point stands even more now how much of a match-runner he is for us. It's every week at this point. Paquetta, it speaks for itself.
00:20:00
Speaker
And then even going further down the pitch James warehouse, how many games does he want us this season? He's my he might have won us more points and kudos just going because he do you want us? Just in terms of like output that Chelsea game the loot in town game brighten brighten Spurs Yeah, so he's another one Suchak is another one
00:20:29
Speaker
I mean, that run of play or that run of games, I should say, where we weren't playing that well, but we were picking up points, who scored the winner in like every single one of those games, Thomas Duchak. So even when like your like first four or five quote unquote match winners are not getting the job done for you, because we didn't even mention Antonio, even when those guys aren't doing the job, like you still have another guy who can find you a goal.
00:20:56
Speaker
Which is just not how we were last season. It's even not how we were, um, the 2021, 2022 season. You're a bone to score every game down the stretch of that season. But think about it. Who, who, who like, it was like set pieces, like Dawson, like who won us the Leon tie? Jerobo scored two of the four goals. Like I'm trying to think of other games. Honestly, that season's so far away now.
00:21:26
Speaker
It's kind of crazy to think about how far away it is. Yeah. And that's what I think is different about the team. And it's honestly a big part of the reason why last year the problem was scoring goals, right? We didn't concede a lot of goals last year, especially for a team that was in trouble. We've conceded, I think, almost twice as many goals this year or something crazy like that. Or maybe we've scored twice as many. But we've conceded a lot more goals this year than we had at this point last year. Oh, yeah.
00:21:56
Speaker
definitely have been conceding a lot more goals than I have the numbers in front of me. And we're an eighth, which I think is a testament to how good these attacking players are. Because even like, like what I'm saying is like, kudos against Burnley. I did not think had a good game at all. I thought he spent like 70 minutes of that game just ghosting. He kind of started positively, just disappeared for like 70 minutes. And then he creates two goals in the last five minutes.
00:22:23
Speaker
Um, again, even today, I did not think he started today well at all. First 15 minutes, gave the ball away a few times, tried to take somebody on when he shouldn't have. And then he scores that goal. And then now he's just in the game and he's a different player. Um, the forest game, like, did we play well? Did Ward Prowse really play well? Did Bowen really play well? No, but they, yeah, especially Bowen, like really didn't have a good game, but came up with a goal.
00:22:55
Speaker
And it's just stuff like that. Yeah. It's like the thing is with our circumstances as a smaller team playing the full gauntlet with European, European nights and the full cup schedule being in every cup. Um, not every performance is like going
Maintaining Performance Consistency
00:23:18
Speaker
to be great. We're going to have a lot of games where guys aren't fresh.
00:23:22
Speaker
guys are missing guys are suspended guys are you know all these different variables that are occurring and you can't expect to have good performances every week with all those circumstances but then all these games yeah exactly but the saving grace is that we have these guys who can in one second or two touches of the ball completely like reverse the tide of the game yeah and
00:23:52
Speaker
That's something we haven't had. Maybe we had in one player, but now we have in five or six. I mean, you think about kudos is brace. We probably had the ball for a grand total and I'm being generous here of 14 seconds.
00:24:07
Speaker
The first goal was the first goal was 16 seconds. Yeah. And then the second goal was what, five touches. Yeah. Zuma took two touches. It might have been six touches. It's like eight seconds from when Zuma went back to when the ball was into that. And I think that's what, that's what makes us much more dangerous this year because last year we couldn't, we couldn't play badly and win. Yep. We just didn't really ever do that. I can't.
00:24:36
Speaker
even remember a game last year where they played poorly in one? Because we actually, funnily enough, last year, you know how the sign of a good team is they'll have a decent amount of wins by multiple goals? Just because if you play so many one-goal games, you're bound to have a draw here or to lose one here. Last year's team, if I'm remembering correctly, probably almost half, if not half, of their Premier League wins
00:25:06
Speaker
Buy more than two goal, buy more than one goal. Yeah, we had a few. We had, just over the time ahead, what was we beat by more than one? Fulham. Beats, Fulham, Bournemouth. Manchester United could have been three. I mean, that was one though, but that could have been three. It could have easily been three. Who else we beat last year? Villa, we beat one though.
00:25:32
Speaker
Oh, you said Bournemouth. We beat Bournemouth twice by multiple goals last year. Yes, I was going to say twice, but I wasn't sure. So that's four or five right there. That's, yeah, we didn't have that. We won 10 Premier League games. So the issue last year wasn't when the performances were good. It was when the performances maybe weren't there. And that's what happened. All of these players who can win you the game in a blink of an eye does for you. And it's going to be really important as
00:26:01
Speaker
the games get kind of come start coming thick and fast even more than they have been which is yeah I mean the spring is gonna be crazy hopefully uh we have a Thursday Saturday schedule we don't no no no they'll reschedule that they uh they schedule the primarily games like every two months they schedule them for tv so once they schedule them for tv they'll schedule us this is like in february
00:26:26
Speaker
Yeah, they're gonna move the United game to Sunday. You're talking about this good. That's another thing. That's the second time they scheduled us for a Thursday Premier League game. That's ridiculous. That is, that is a joke. It's honestly a joke. The amount, the amount. First of all, if I'm remembering correctly, last year, or earlier this year, no, it must have been last year. Last year, we set a record for consecutive Sundays played on by a Premier League team.
00:26:57
Speaker
which is one thing, for them to schedule us not once, but twice on a Thursday just for TV is nonsense. We should, yeah, we should never play on a Thursday unless it's in Europe. It's nonsense. Like this just not to sound like you're in club, but that's not fair. It's not, it's just not, it's fucked up. These players talking about like a league,
00:27:26
Speaker
from point of view. Because players are going to be so burnt out after years of playing at this rate. We're still feeling the effects of this World Cup. It's kind of like- I mean, yeah. The Thursday, Sunday thing in general, it's like making teams play. And I understand you want every last Champions League game, every last small Champions League. Why can't the group stage be on Wednesday?
00:27:56
Speaker
Like why can't the Europa League group stage be on Wednesday? And then like when knockouts come around, then like it's Champions League is like Wednesday and Europa League with like Tuesday, Wednesday, and then Europa League and Conference League are Thursday. What is the harm in that? Like who cares? Because I mean, because they want people to have something to watch every day. Because they don't have a second sport over there, dude. I want my guys to be fresh, man. I don't give a damn about
00:28:26
Speaker
watching R.B. Leipzig versus Copenhagen on a Tuesday afternoon. First of all, yes, you do. I would watch it if my hammers weren't playing, but... Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair. Yeah, I mean, the fact that we're able to maintain playing Thursday, Sunday for three years, especially that we're eighth
Moyes' Tenure & Fan Expectations
00:28:46
Speaker
this year. I mean, I know last year was a down year, but like, we have to start appreciating what Moyes has done for us. No, yeah. I already...
00:28:56
Speaker
I'm like appreciating it. Cause I, I, I see that. I mean, as, as a collective, like this, like, and like maybe if you have any older listeners who are even around like during decanio days or before primarily days, like yellow or saying this, first of all, there can be multiple golden arrows in the history of the club. We are in a golden era right now. There's no other way to slice that. I don't care if you hate noise. I don't care. I don't care if you were the biggest noise out person on the planet and nothing he could do could change it.
00:29:26
Speaker
I don't care if you think that, I think you saw something, somebody said that Kevin Nolan is managing the European games, and that's why we're good. These people are schizophrenic. Even if you think that Kevin Nolan is managing the European games, who made the decision to let him do that, if you think that's what's happening? Yeah, right. Who's calling the shots here?
00:29:49
Speaker
Do you think David Sullivan made the call and he said, Hey, especially after, like, has he been doing this the whole time? Like, did he do this when we beat Leon? Like, when did this start for you that Kevin Nolan was managing the European games? It's ridiculous for the European games. Why? That doesn't make any sense. Why would a player, why would the players be cool with that? Like having two managers and not being like consistent like, Oh, today's a Tuesday. It's a Kevin Nolan practice.
00:30:18
Speaker
Listen to yourselves, man. Jesus Christ. It's crazy. And that's the thing. It's like, look.
00:30:24
Speaker
Mois, like you're allowed to get frustrated with Mois sometimes. He does do things that are frustrating. I hate to break it to some of these people. Every manager in the world will. And if you think that you're going to be happy with a free flowing manager, which by the way, it's harder to maintain success, free flowing wise, even if you watch Manchester City, you know how pragmatic they are and how pragmatic they were last year to win that Champions League. They were under so much pressure in that final.
00:30:53
Speaker
Um, at points, I should say, but like you're going to have qualms with the free-flowing manager too. You're going to, cause when he plays a fullback that doesn't defend, you're going to get angry when he doesn't play a six because he wants to play Pablo for now is in the pivot. You're going to get angry. Every manager of every sport at every level of that sport.
00:31:22
Speaker
does stuff that's going to make you want to kill them. Has a flaw. It's a fact of life. It is just, it's, if you can show me one manager that's never done anything to make their, his fans significantly question, you show me your. City meetings have an issue with Pep, dude. Yeah. They're like genuine issues with Pep. Like the way he manages knockout ties, like that is legit.
00:31:51
Speaker
It's a legit issue. It's a very real issue. There's no managers out there that are free of criticism. It's just the fact of life. And once you realize that and you say, OK, I expect this manager or any manager to make a mistake, you expect David Royce to make mistakes because he's a manager. He's a human.
00:32:19
Speaker
He's a human being. He's a human being who has preferences. And I was seeing somebody complain. They said that, uh, Mubama didn't come on early enough today. Like, sure. I like agree that I want to see more of him. Sure. He played like 12 minutes, man. Like he came on in like the 86 minute, there was like seven minutes of out of time. Like, are we serious? Like, like, who cares? He got on the field. Like,
00:32:48
Speaker
I like, we won 3-0, you know? Like, how do you have anything to say? Someone said, uh... How do people still find things to say? Like, of course I want Obama to play a hundred minutes a game. It's just, it's just like, Mois has a lot of things to think about. He does, that's all. The 18 year old kid on the bench. Yeah. Who like has all the time in the universe.
00:33:14
Speaker
He's going to play eventually. He's going to start eventually. And also, at a certain point, and again, Moise should not be thinking about this because she should just be thinking of what's best for our team and then now and in the present. But at a certain point, we're going to give this kid minutes who's not signing a contract. Yeah, it's a good point. We're going to develop him so he can go sign for Leicester next year.
00:33:43
Speaker
Like, I'm not, like, saying that that's a genuine thought in my head, because that's just as schizophrenic as they are. But that's the thing, is that that's just the other side of that coin. Like, we can play this game all day if we want to. Somebody was upset, somebody was upset that he took kudos off today. Called them an old relic, is what they call them.
00:34:07
Speaker
Where are you seeing these people because this is, you know, where it is. I don't actually know if he listens to our podcast, but he, uh, we'll interact with our tweets a lot. So he's cool. Um, Oh, what's that? It's like 29 M morgue or like M 29 more. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's just fighting with people 24 seven on the time. It's just like, dude, like for your own sanity, stop responding to these people. If you hear that. That kid has like the most like poisonous timeline at all.
00:34:35
Speaker
And he infects my timeline with these imbeciles. He can remove yourself from it. And as a result, I see all the slop. Dude, it's at the point where, like, if I'm scrolling through my timeline, right, and I see him, I'll click on his account and I'll scroll through everything that he's quoted in, like, the last, like, few hours. Because I just, I got to know what they have to say.
00:34:59
Speaker
It's so bizarre, man. It's so bizarre. Like, that Claritin Booz, like, contingency, you know, throughout the fair days, I'm thinking, oh, you're too fucked up, so. Is that a Claritin Booz account, right? Yeah. He, after Tottenham game,
00:35:15
Speaker
He was like, I told everybody I was taking a break from Twitter. Why are you guys adding me? We did a post-match show. I was really happy on the show. And then we lost the phone that Sunday. And he was all over my timeline. And then we've won the last two, and he's nowhere to be found again. I hate when people are like, they're not even a fan. Because no, they're just a very misguided person who
00:35:42
Speaker
has lots of hatred in their heart for some reason. But that guy, I actually don't think is a West Ham thing. I don't, I seriously don't, I just don't understand what he wants. He just wants, he wants Moyes to go more than he wants us to win. We have one loss in our last nine games. What about that guy? You see that, you know the Twitter account Irons?
00:36:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's my dog though. He's I mean, I've actually never enjoyed with him a day in my life So it's not my dog, but he he tweeted before the Freiburg game. I saw that ideal scenario Also the thing about that is no it was we lose and we draw AC Milan
00:36:34
Speaker
If we lose, Damon Royce gets fired and we draw AC Milan in the first round of the Europa League knockout round. What are you talking about? That was easier teams to play than AC Milan. No, because he's one of those people.
00:36:48
Speaker
who is all about like, and I get this, like, oh, we want to travel and like play the biggest clubs in the world. Like, let's play them in the quarterfinal. Like, let's like go to like a cool country in the round 16. Like, let's play Braga in the round of 16. Like, everybody gets a trip to Portugal, but like, we are the favorites. We can play AC Milan in the quarterfinal all anybody wants. I want to play AC Milan at some point in this tournament because A, I think that we can beat them.
00:37:19
Speaker
And B, like, that's so cool. It's AC Mon. The San Siro, almost one of the most historic stadiums in the world. Can you imagine if we went to the San Siro and Mokus jumped on that damn advertising board? Oh, man. Oh, man. That would be something. Cypress seemed like a great place to go.
00:37:48
Speaker
Everybody had a lot of fun there last year. That's what I'm saying. We had a lot of fun looking at the pictures and watching the videos. And we wiped the floor with them. Like, do you not want to like coast into a quarterfinal? I mean, there's no coasting in the Europa League, to be fair. Yeah. Because a lot of these teams who come through are good. Like Galatasar, I scare me.
00:38:09
Speaker
You can at least take the buy, you know? That's what I'm saying, take the buy. I want to circle back because the other thing I was going to say, did he think Moyz was going to get sacked if we lost that game? Is he serious, dude? Yeah, he did. People are so detached. And then you have other people who recanted the statement. So, tongue in cheek. Who are saying that that was worse than anything we witnessed under Pellegrini or Village.
00:38:38
Speaker
Are you insane? Say his name. Alan Rezeppa. It's fucking Alan Rezeppa. Is he out of his mind? Yes. He is. He is. He's losing it. By the time I met him, he had already lost it. I mean, we've had this conversation before.
00:38:59
Speaker
where and this is mostly for Alan if he's listening and anybody who knows Alan which is probably like more than half of everyone.
Online Fan Reactions
00:39:07
Speaker
I think because Alan like was never this crazy like he was like he'd get after it with some of these people and he could be like you know a little annoying to like some of the people who disagree with him
00:39:19
Speaker
But he didn't truly start to lose his mind until Moyes started to succeed. That's really when it clicked for him, when he had to start complimenting Moyes. Yeah, Alan, when I first met Alan, he was crazy. You didn't know what he stood for. He was a principled man. He had principles. And thought, and takes, and agendas. Now he's just...
00:39:49
Speaker
Loud. That's very true. Because what the hell is he talking about? It was never that bad on the Village or Pillow Greening. We held four to two League One Clubs, not to one, to two League One Clubs in the space of a calendar year. We held four goals in two separate games, two separate teams playing two divisions below us. And he says,
00:40:19
Speaker
But it wasn't five. And it wasn't five. No, but that's when he knew he had lost. So I'll cut him some slack there because that's just a troll. Fair enough. Fair enough. And then Billage, we held five many, many times in the village. And yeah, it was the city and the arsenal. But dude, we held four. Oh, actually, no, that was Moyz.
00:40:49
Speaker
held forward to Swansea when they got relegated. That's awesome. Those are the double over in the year before, it makes you think. And he beat them earlier that season. Those had three wins on the bounce against Swansea, but Mr. Moyes could not. He did not have an answer. Makes you think that maybe we should have pulled the trigger after the full game. Dude, I almost want to watch that because how did that happen?
00:41:16
Speaker
This one was the we lost for one. I'm trying to remember. It was our not a bitch fit. He must have not been fit. There had to have been something wrong. But I know Antonia was fit. He scored four. No, four. No down against swans. This guy on the swivel puts it in the back of the net. He loves the dude. He loves the consolation gold. He does.
00:41:40
Speaker
Like, not to be disrespectful to Antonio, because I actually think he's been fine this season. Even, like, his quote-unquote struggles, I think, have been way overblown. I think he's, like, done a fine job. It's the same people who are, like, still, like, talking about Moyes out. It's the same people, like, talking about Antonio. It's also, like, this weird sect of people who, like, like Moyes, but, like, always want to be progressive.
00:42:07
Speaker
And it's like, yeah, I want to play on the front foot too in the right way. The way that we played in the front foot today against wolves, it was the right, it was the, but it's the right way for us to play on the front foot with lots of energy at a high tempo and not giving them room to breathe. We do not have to pin teams back. We don't care about field tilt. That's not us.
00:42:29
Speaker
We are not field tilt FC. And that's the thing, half the people screaming from Moore are the same people who hate the field tilt stat. He's just old angry men. They have no idea who they would replace him with. There's people saying that Noble should replace him. What do you actually think Noble would do with this theme?
00:43:00
Speaker
I almost like like Moyes has got to like give it like every summer like Moyes got like teach him. Noble needs to take this team over when Moyes is done. I would love it. But I just I just think that replacing our greatest manager in the history with his captain who retired 18 months ago with a guy who like said he was like
00:43:21
Speaker
playing on, like looking forward to being away from the team for a while. No, not even that, cause that's fair. With the guy who brought the Heineken's into the dressing room for the celebrations after the semi-final, like he is friends with the players. It just wouldn't work. They obviously respect them, but. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, like Noble in five years, like Noble can manage like, trying to be a good example.
00:43:50
Speaker
Like he could manage... Like Soucek. He could manage. You know what I mean? Or like Jared Bowen. Like he could manage. Cause there's enough age difference. Like they didn't spend like five years with... Imagine we hired Noble to manage Aaron Cresswell. Michaela Antonio, dude. Michaela Antonio was probably doing Christmas pranks on this guy, bro. Like... Michaela Antonio's not gonna listen to him.
00:44:19
Speaker
Anyone who was in the birthday prank video when Lingard, like, covered him with powder and shit, anyone who was in that video, even if they didn't participate, was in the video, cannot be coached by Mark Lager. Can you imagine Ben Rama? Do you remember how Ben Rama was behaving in that video?
00:44:49
Speaker
What is good with him? Here's the thing, bro. I'm getting to that, but I have a few theories. Okay, so theory one is the one where people are like, oh, he's playing Pablo because he knows Ben Rama's off the AFCON.
00:45:10
Speaker
Theory 2, I like this one. Moiz is sabotaging Ben Rama's chance. So he has more players when Kudu's in a game in Kornaely. Yeah, that's genius. You think he's doing the same thing with Kornaely? Or, Theory 3 is that he's finally come full circle on how he feels about Ben Rama and he thinks he is terrible. He thinks that he sucks and he's gonna get sold in January.
00:45:40
Speaker
And honestly, it could be any of the three. Moiz is crazy enough to do any of the three. I'm feeling a little bit of each. I'm feeling a little bit of each. I think he turned more Ben Ramah into the player that he thought he wanted.
Ben Rama's Role at West Ham
00:45:59
Speaker
And then he realized that that guy stinks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good. No, thanks. I saw it. I don't like it.
00:46:07
Speaker
Ben Ramah altered his brain kind of through. It's just tough for me. Ben Ramah did every single thing that Moyes asked of him for three years just to be a part of the worst Moyes season and then Moyes ago. I'm good. I kind of liked him better back then. Where's the flare player I can give some leeway to?
00:46:34
Speaker
If I heard that quote about Paquetta and I was Ben Rama, I don't care how much better Paquetta is than me, I would lose my mind. Dude, I would be furious. I would abandon everything. I would just go on a hunger strike. Just start turning the ball over again. Dude, because the thing about it is, look, Ben Rama hasn't been raped this season.
00:47:03
Speaker
What did he do to go from like being like the left wing that he trusted to just never playing again? And can I preface this is nothing to do with for now I think for now has actually been really good in his little cameos and even against Fulham I thought he could find in the first half the game really wasn't his fault Yeah, he was sick too. Yeah That's the thing. He was sick
00:47:29
Speaker
That's what I'm saying, like what is going on? Because what was the last game that Ben Rama played for us? I mean, was it? Did he get off the bench in the Europa League games than me? Yeah, and he subbed on for Fulham. Yeah, he subbed on against Fulham, but that's different. Like I'm not going to count that one. That was brutal. Like he, because think about it, his last start that I can remember,
00:47:58
Speaker
Maybe there was one after this, but his last start was Brentford. He played pretty well. I think if Antonio doesn't take the ball off his foot, like he scored a goal. And then he probably, none of this probably happened, which is why it's just interesting to me. Okay. So he played 67 minutes. He started against, um, TSC, uh, bakatapala. And he played 84 minutes on November 9th against Olympiacos and that win. Right.
00:48:29
Speaker
And then the Premier League played 27 minutes against Burnley. He was good in that sub cameo. And then he played 25 minutes against Fulham. So the last times he played, he played well, like decent, I'll say, against Brentford in that loss. And then he got hooked. He came on against Burnley on the 25th of November.
00:48:59
Speaker
made a difference almost scored a goal and then he started against bakatapala on november 30th probably played terrible and then he played in the win against olympiacos and he was average he did play terrible against tsu but like what did he do the thing is ben ramah is not having a bad season like and he's just not he's he's just hardly having a season he's just that he is just like
00:49:28
Speaker
as average as it gets this year, which is fine. Like, like he, he's, he's like, he goes out there and he does this thing. Like he played really, like played really well against Brighton. Like that was, that was great. Yeah. He played great. We'll never forget that performance. That was, that was really special. Um, and it's just like, should he play more? Maybe like, I'm not going to go out there and be like,
00:49:54
Speaker
David Moyes is doing this guy a disservice. Yeah, that's not what I'm trying to say. I don't particularly think he should be playing over For Nowz. I thought one of the left wingers should have gotten a chance. I think For Nowz got one and took it. I'm just a little bit confused that he can't get a look. Yeah, it is like... Well, I mean, to be fair, the one game that confuses me is the Palace game.
00:50:23
Speaker
But besides that, I mean, I guess Tottenham, I wouldn't have brought him on. Like today, he couldn't come on. Yeah, three zero, I guess. Like, what is that? Like, but it's not something I'm going to be outraged about. No, I know. Like, that's like, it's like a math problem for me. I'm just confused. Exactly. It's kind of funny how it's gotten to this point because
00:50:49
Speaker
Once upon a time, there would have been serious outrage over this. Well, it's interesting that this is how it's kind of, because I think this is how it's ending. I think he might go in January. January? He's trying to get funds from somewhere. I'm sure, primarily, clubs would be interested. No team is buying him right before he's about to go to AFCON. He's not going to go to damn AFCON. He's not going to go to damn AFCON.
00:51:18
Speaker
They called him up. Dude, he has like... I don't think Algeria should call him up.
Transfer Strategies & Player Sales
00:51:26
Speaker
He's not playing! They're good! Who's the guy on the left wing? Is Fagouli still playing football? Is he still with us? I don't know. I cannot tell you for sure. But...
00:51:44
Speaker
That's fair. He's like playing like mid-table in Turkey. That's Ben Rama's level. Ben Rama's level, I agree. I mean, the thing is about Ben Rama, like they don't take him half the time anyways. Didn't they take him to AFKON last time and he didn't play? Just sat on the bench and he was playing well before he left. He was on like a incredible run of form. Like man, I can't believe Ben Rama's going.
00:52:15
Speaker
And like, that sucks for us. And then he left and just sat on the bench like a month. He watched Afcon. He watched it. Yeah, I mean, more power to public though, man. Maybe he'll score, maybe he'll get a new contract. Well, he's the one actually though, which is even weirder. And here's theory number four. They're trying to get teams to look at him and buy him.
00:52:45
Speaker
Because X said that we activated his clause until 2025 to sell him in January or in the summer. But he said that we're going to look like, what the hell is going on? That is the most, that's like the most out there theory, low key. Yeah. We're playing and auditioning him in the like, Premier League games. Just so teams look at him and they're like, ooh.
00:53:17
Speaker
I don't know. It's interesting because, um, we don't sell players a lot. So seeing how we're very good at it, seeing how side in effects of this process is going to be interesting. Oh, I mean, I'll say one thing. If Simon is as involved in negotiating outgoings as he is negotiating in comings, which I have no idea. Did a pretty damn good job this summer.
00:53:47
Speaker
I'm sure I'm sure he got us. He got us our nine. I mean, I'm sure like Sullivan tells him what he wants, but he got us our nine figure fee for deck. And the addons are generally achievable for Rice's transfer fairing thing. I think Sullivan was at the table. Yeah, actually for the Rice one, that was actually absolutely David Sullivan. But for Skamaka, like we stood firm and then the team met it.
00:54:17
Speaker
Like I'm actually, I mean, I know that you were crazy at the time, but I, I have no complaints about how that was handled. I was ready for him to get out of the chance this year, but like we said 30 million. A team came in with 30 million. My complaints were about losing the player. You said that Moyes pushed him out the door.
00:54:38
Speaker
You were emotional. It was emotional. And I still... You don't believe that voice said he wanted him to stay. You said it multiple times. You should still be here, man. You should be a hammer. Get the hell out of here, man. Did you see, uh, no new thing said... I know, I know.
00:55:02
Speaker
Which is fair, dude. It's not like, I think that Skamaka is a pretty good striker. I think that there are things he needs to work on. And I think that some of those things he needs to work on led to it not working out here. But like, I don't know, every so extreme on him. Can he just be a pretty good player technically, who can strike a ball, who's also got flaws? No. Like, can these people not be like, certainly the wants and conversations anymore?
00:55:33
Speaker
Both of these things can be correct, you know. I love saying that. That's actually my least favorite thing then. No, it's you know, because it's it's it's so annoying. Dude, it's it's like a really like honestly, fuck the thing and say to somebody. You know, you know, both of these things can be. Hell yeah.
00:55:55
Speaker
No. Yes, they can. Only the thing that I'm saying can be correct. Okay. How about this? Ben Rama sucks. For Now sucks. What do you think about that? For Now doesn't suck. Oh, okay. He's the flavor of the month, man. He is, dude. These left-wingers are going through such weird phases of their careers. Each one. Like, dude, Cornet? Has Cornet done anything wrong for us?
00:56:26
Speaker
yes what did he do when he first got here and just was missing every chance that ben ramel put on a play for him oh dude he hit the post against chelsea it's unlucky it's unlucky you know he skied one in one of the europe league conferences oh my god he did
00:56:48
Speaker
That's what I was thinking. He was so cursed. What a cursed sign in. But seriously, dude, I don't think he's some answer for us or anything like that. I think sometimes we could use direct pace from him.
00:57:04
Speaker
Who just kind of provides that now? But like, what has he done wrong? Because he had the assist in Serbia. Don is like a huge Europa League win that set us up with a much like just easier mindset in the home game for Frybird. He hasn't like been in the squad since then. He wasn't in the squad today. Which to be fair, like I'm a happy move on this game. Picked in the Premier League squad over him. But like, what did he do? I don't know.
00:57:35
Speaker
He did something. It's just one of those things. It's just like, damn. You say damn and move on. No, yeah, I know. I know. You think Deitch would spend a fee on him? He's going back to France, I think. I think he's going to go there every time. Hopefully somebody spends a fee on him. He's at least shown that he can play. I wonder.
00:58:04
Speaker
What the fee even is, it's probably like, I hope it's not, it's gotta be like more than eight, it's gotta be eight or more. I would say five to 10. I'm taking five to 10. I mean, I'll take the six that eventually gets offered, but like, it's kind of annoying that we spent 17 and a half million on somebody who like, it's pretty clearly like, got juice, like he's not bad. Like, that's the thing, like, we're selling low, and I know we're selling low, I know,
00:58:34
Speaker
whoever buys him is getting a better player than what we have. But it's just the reality of the situation and getting cut in your losses with a player that it kind of just wasn't right. I mean, to be fair, I think that we all knew this deep down. We signed eight players in one window. You had to know that one or two were going to miss.
00:59:04
Speaker
And it's just tough. It's annoying that the two who were signed and score goals missed. That's the annoying part. Yeah. And maybe in another life, they both. Sign and play together and they come back. Oh, you mean at West Ham? I thought you meant like they end up in the same team. Like they could have easily like in a different situation worked out. Yeah. It's just not how it went. But then maybe Paquette the fields in that life. And I know which one I'm taking every time.
00:59:35
Speaker
Yeah, I literally take me fairly in life. Yeah All right one more question for you before we sign off here and this is this is a big question This is this is gonna elicit some emotions out of you. I'll tell you that right now Lucas Fabianski is playing well right now
01:00:00
Speaker
What do you do about the goalkeeping situation? Do you think it has something to do with them, these clean sheets? Yeah, we got two this week. I would say that this performance, we just choked the life out of them. That wasn't really much of a Fabianci thing. It was just us. He was actually kind of weird today, if I'm being honest. But his communication might be brilliant.
01:00:28
Speaker
We just didn't give away that many chances. We just played really well and they didn't have a snap. So I think that this clean G could have easily happened under Fabianzky. Do you think that there's a conversation we had about Fabianzky taking the number one shirt back? No, I don't. He's been amazing. He's been just as good as Ariola.
01:00:56
Speaker
I think in his old age that he's really benefiting from not having the fresh and being fresh for every game. And he wasn't this good last year. That's just the truth. He wasn't this good the year before either. I agree with you. I'm just playing devil's advocate. I thought he ended last season pretty well. No, yeah. And I think, I think that there is,
01:01:25
Speaker
some conversation to be had if Ariola comes back in and we start leaking goals. And I don't think it's as simple as if we're leaking goals or not, but if we start getting more weird stuff with the Garrett and stuff like that, then maybe there is a conversation to be had. The way I would handle it, I would play Fabianzky on Wednesday instead of a pool, and then I would bring Ariola back in for United.
01:01:52
Speaker
Just whenever he gets healthy again, he was, he had a brace on it. Yeah, he was on the bench today. He had a tight barge. Yeah. Probably could have played him. I think, I think, I think that he could have played today, but we have the luxury of... Yeah. If it was Joseph and Nang, my map back there, it probably would have been Harriola. Can you imagine? That was the question. All right. Can you imagine if Fabianski went off against Spurs when he went down for a second?
01:02:20
Speaker
I honestly, yeah, that was the question. I thought that you were going to get a little bit more fiery about the suggestion. The question we said we were going to talk about. What do we say we were talking about? Between Cruz and Boeing. Oh, would you like to start? Would you like to ask an answer? No, let's ask. You want to ask? Yeah. Ask.
01:02:48
Speaker
You got a cup final coming up. You got one spot for two players. I'm Jared Bowen, Mohammad Kuduz. I'm taking Bowen. It's hard not to, but it's also hard to deny Kuduz. I'm not denying him by taking Bowen. I just think I know damn well one of those guys is gonna score in that game.
01:03:16
Speaker
I know for a fact that Jared Bowen will score in a final if I ask him to. What about the course of the season? Bowen. Dude, I'll say one thing. I think it's jarring how much Bowen's all-around players improved.
01:03:36
Speaker
Like, the goals are cool. I honestly, it's like watching a new player. Like, it's crazy. Like, he has had better all-around play than I think he's been given credit for sometimes. But the energy that he picks the ball up with now when he's playing on the right, he's so much more direct than he's ever been. He looks faster. I don't know if that's sharpness, if that's his fitness. I don't know what the hell that is.
01:04:06
Speaker
The passing is better. His head is up more. He links up better with players in field. And you see it for England, too. When he plays with England, he's able to make these first-time passes inside. It's really little stuff, but it's just there's some different kind of sharpness about him now than there wasn't even two years ago during his best season. He honestly is watching a completely new player. If he had six primarily goals, I'd be saying this.
01:04:36
Speaker
And the goals are a bonus. And he's taken to this nine role last week. I thought he was spectacular. Yeah. Incredible. And people, I think it's almost taking away from his performance as a striker today because he scored as soon as he moved to the right. If that ball hits the post and goes inside the post and it's a goal, then we're talking about a four and no win and a brace for Bowen and just how great of a striker he is.
01:05:04
Speaker
And we're talking about him being level on goals and Mo Salah if that goes in on that today by the way who scored three penalties I don't know. It's it's hard man. Obviously, I love Bowen and I'm glad we this isn't an actual thing we have to discuss No, but kudos is forcing a lot of tough conversations I think I think they're playing the past month the hard conversation is the one I
01:05:33
Speaker
Because it just feels almost anti-football to say he's better than Paquetta. But you can't really argue with output. We'll see how much longer this output lasts. But this kind of goal scoring form is not foreign to him. He's not going to score every game like he's doing right now. But he is used to scoring goals, and he is used to scoring goals at a high clip in any competition he plays in. But it's not even like a
01:06:02
Speaker
Like, with a player like him, it's not like a luck thing. Like, the ball's just going in the net. Like, his ball striking is like... It's so real. It's a genuine, just like, a skill. Like, I saw him, like, when he got that one-on-one with Tote Gomez, like, for the first goal, I was like, oh, like, my first instinct was like, he should, like, put it on his right and, like, you know, try to beat him there. Then he, like, moved into his left. I was like,
01:06:33
Speaker
Oh, he's got it on his left. Like, if he gets a shot. And the touch was heavy, bro. The touch was heavy. I thought the touch was heavy. But I was like, OK. And it's weird with him. Not to cut you off. He's done this a few times, or he cuts in like that. And I'm like, ugh. You know, like, and I know, and like now I know that it can actually go in when he does that. Because he's done that a few times, or he prefers to almost take that shot on. And I think it's because he knows
01:07:02
Speaker
how hard he can hit the ball. I mean, the bow and goal against Spurs comes from him. And that's just like the kind of thing where it's like, yeah, like put a shot on the net. Like hopefully something good will happen. But he knows, like this isn't him being selfish. This is him being like, I work on this. A lot. Carmelo Anthony, like he works on this. Yeah. I'm like, honestly, like he put it on his left. I was like, okay, if he gets the shot off, like this is cash money. And then hit the net.
01:07:31
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Yeah, like, that's what he does. I was very surprised when I hit the net, not even a lie. Because the thing was, and it's the same way as the goalkeeper, he cut in and, well, because he cut in and there was heavy touch and I was like, it's going to get blocked. Because it is the kind of shot that you see get blocked a lot. And the ball hit the net like before I could like,
01:07:53
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really registered what's happening. And the same thing kind of happens to the goalie. Cause I mean, Kudu said in this post match that the scouting report on the goalie was that he liked to cheat to the far post, so near post. Um, yeah, but the ball wasn't even totally in the corner. It's just, it's the, what's impressive about it is that it's the ball striking that beats the keeper, which is what makes him this high level player. I was saying this earlier today about Kudu's, I've never seen us sign a player.
01:08:22
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Who's so ready made to play for like a top four Premier League club and play in the Champions League? Right and the irony is that he was playing in the Eredivisie like three months ago The irony is that they all had their eye on him. He scored against one of them in the Champions League last year All of these clubs have been linked with him like Chelsea obviously are not there right now But that's what they want to be Chelsea linked Arsenal heavily linked
01:08:50
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United, linked. Eric Tanhag managed him. Right? Like, oh, I don't know if Liverpool were linked. Governor B actually tweeted this. He said, uh, so Eric Tanhag coached Anthony, and he decided that Anthony was the player he wanted to spend $100 million on. It's crazy. Like, damn. It is crazy. And what's crazy is all these guys had their eyes on him. And obviously the Brighton thing happens.
01:09:20
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I remember when he was being Michael Brighton, I was like, we're going to have to play him on his debut. Scared. Isn't that crazy? Like when we beat Chelsea the week before we beat Brighton, the thought was, man, we might have to play like kudos next week. Like, that's kind of cool, but like, that's kind of scary. You know what I mean? And then the thought was, well, he can replace Paquetta. And now they're playing together at West End. It's crazy. Nothing's changed.
01:09:49
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It's special. In two weeks. In 99, I had 100 times, you're talking about, man, can you imagine, we got Paquette and Cruz together in the same building? Dude, that conversation is had so many times in so many different sports where it's like, man, imagine this guy, and this guy just crossed paths at the same time. It never happens that way. I mean, you say the same thing right now about, oh, can you imagine Rice was in this team instead of Alvarez? Shit, the thing about Pyatt.
01:10:17
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I mean everybody loves the Piatt one. Every year players come and go and every single time it's like can you imagine player X was here at the same time as Piatt. Yeah. Arnadovich, Pique Antonio, like Peketa, Kudus, Bowen, like just Felipe. The list, the list goes on and on. Everybody wants to see, everybody wants to see everybody play with Dimitri Piatt. And it's going to continue to be added on. James Wirprouse is another one.
01:10:46
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No, I'm saying that. Dude, you put them both over a free kick. They each have a hand on the ball. So they put it down together. So you don't know which one wants to take it. This fucking fan fiction is crazy. You got to respect that. We're proud to be taken with this damn left foot if we had to meet your pilot. Tell you that much. Work on your left kid. Daddy's home.
01:11:11
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Get in the box. Get in the box, James WordPress. You know what? He could take corners, though. If Pia came back, he can stay on corners. I'm cool with that. He can stay on corners. Goddamn Demi Pie aiming for the near post every time. Just hitting people's feet. Fucking hanging up there, man. I know that you can do it. Like, I don't know what... We scored the goal from it once with Antonio.
01:11:41
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Actually, we scored a few corner goals, but like, just like shoot it, Demi. Okay, score prediction for Wednesday, for Liverpool. Because this is huge. What team would you play? I'm playing all the hits. I'm unchanged. Unchanged. Unchanged. Obviously.
01:12:11
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I'm serious. Um, score predictions. If they, if they run out of midfield of Endo, Slav is lie and like Curtis Jones, I think we'll win. I think they were going to penalties. I think it's going to be one, one. And I think they were going to go to penalties. Oh, that's scary. I don't like that.
01:12:40
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Oh, with Fabianzky back there. Dude, wait a second. Imagine tomorrow, Wednesday is the day that Moiz is like, yeah, like Zariel is gonna be the cupkeeper again. Head in hands moment, dude. Literally Oppenheimer moment. No, Oppenheimer moment for Enzo Fernandez when he saves every single one, dude. What did he create?
01:13:07
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Imagine that's not what's going to happen. But yeah, I think one won in its penalties. We've never had Fabiancie defend the penalty shootout before. How did we beat Citi in that penalty shootout? One of them hit the post. Was it voted? I think two of them. Two of them missed it. Yeah, two of them put it off target. One of them hit the post. That is crazy. That is so crazy.
01:13:37
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Yeah, Ariel didn't make it save. Dude, that was before the jig was up. They didn't know you just had to put it on target. And then somehow Blackburn found out. And they were like, let's score like 16 pounds. Blackburn did their homework. And then Enzo watched that game. He was like, bet. But the 108 million dollar man, or 108 million pound man, I should say. Big guy.
01:14:06
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Um, try the, I didn't miss a penalty against all four serial. Are you kidding me? You're like, you're embarrassed. Must be embarrassed. No shame. And then they dropped them and then they won. They won the other day. That was the point of like following that Blackburn game on like
01:14:28
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The West Ham's like, why? That was such a nightmare. Was the funniest thing. Like at that point, we were already sucked. So I was like, I called. No, dude. What was funny about that, like funny now was that so that was the week, the last week of games before the World Cup. We played palace, we played blackware and we played Western. We were 10th going into the game against palace and we're like, we're finding our way. Right. Like we'll figure this out.
01:14:58
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And we conceded the 94th minute winner, the Elise deflected goal. And then we lost in the penalty shootout to Blackburn. And then we got wiped before with Lester. And we really backed down like 16th coming out of the break. Were we not in the relegation zone going into that break? I don't think so. I don't know, dude. I know that we were 10th going into the game against Crystal Palace.
01:15:28
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It's funny to think about that Leicester team, that Leicester game right before the break, now that they're down. We thought that they were fine in their feet. Like, we got seriously fucked up by a team that was terrible. Did not control their own fate on the final day. They beat us again. Yeah, I mean, that was a charity. They did the double over us and they went down.
01:15:58
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It's embarrassing. It's just embarrassing. I wonder when the last time a team did a double on us and went down. I mean, I'm sure teams have done doubles over plenty of teams. Went down. That's like when Chelsea saved us by giving us six points. Oh, over us specifically? And then went down. Follow him this season, hopefully. Yeah. I would take a loss to them at the bowl if it meant that they were gone. Good riddance. Diop needs to find the real club now that he's
01:16:28
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been benched for Calvin Bassi. Maybe they'll sign Ben Rama. No, he's going home. They're commenting on each other's Instagram posts with the same emojis. Yeah, because they both know that. Because they both hate, deep down, they both hate moist. Not deep down. I don't know.
01:16:51
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that's coming from it is surface level hatred. It's like, fuck you on the side where I see you. There was never talked about a player as funny as he's hooked up and around, but to the press, like, what was he trying to do? It's ridiculous. He's exceeded. Anyways, thank you everybody for listening. This has been a fun episode. It's good to be back. These are coming consistently now again, for sure.
01:17:19
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