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In this episode the Fatherhood panel discusses Marxism and the danger this ideology poses to our society. It slips in everywhere and Dads need to be on guard and ready to stand against it. Listen as these non-experts give a real mans opinion and perspective on this vital topic. This one will make you think!
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Introduction and Podcast Purpose
00:00:01
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Well, hello everybody. Welcome to the Preacher Dad podcast. And this episode is Fatherhood Friday. Today we're going to discuss cultural Marxism. How is Marxism infiltrating our society? How can we be on guard against it and fight against it? So I hope that you'll listen in for some very important tips and discussion on this very, very important subject. Thank you so much for listening. As always, this podcast is brought to you in part by Cornerstone Fellowship. Cornerstone Fellowship is the small little country church in the middle of nowhere, Georgia, just a little bit north of Tombsboro. And we would love to love you if you want to come by and check us out.
00:00:39
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Introduction to the Fatherhood Panel
00:01:02
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All right, let's go ahead and start Fatherhood Friday. Fatherhood Friday.
00:01:12
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Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to Fatherhood Friday. We're so glad that you've chosen to join us here in the coziest little corner of the Internet. Just a few people here. Nice, fun, pleasant conversation for you.
00:01:25
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And I'm here with my fatherhood panel, your beloved faithful friends, Mr. Matt Stewart, Mr. Nate Eisner and Mr. Tony Russell. And we are just glad to have you back, Tony, after a little bit of a hiatus. Glad you're feeling better.
00:01:43
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I am alive. good Good. Good. Sorry. that was Awkward pauses. That thing's fun. Well, he was he was actually in Canada, which is about the same as about the same as being under the weather, I guess. but It feels very similar.
00:02:00
Speaker
Yeah. He wasn't going to disclose his location. He's just taking care of some business. There you go. There you go. He'd tell you exactly where he was, but he have to kill you. So...
00:02:11
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Tonight, guys, we're going to talk a little bit about Marxism. um Always a fun topic, you know. ah we We feel like Marxism is kind of becoming very prominent in many corners of our society. And so we want to have an opportunity to talk about it and hopefully to put you on your guard.
What is Marxism?
00:02:36
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All of you dads and parents and anyone else listening, good one But first, we kind of need to define our terms so we understand what we're talking about here.
00:02:48
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Marxism is a theory that was developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and it focuses on class struggle and economic systems.
00:03:00
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Marxism argues that history moves through conflicts between social classes, driven by how people produce and distribute resources like labor and capital.
00:03:12
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Marxism critiques capitalism for exploiting workers, predicting that it'll collapse in a classless society called communism, where resources are shared equally without private ownership. And I think that's ah a very important aspect of Marxism. Another very important aspect of it is that it's completely devoid of the sp the supernatural.
00:03:35
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Everything is materialistic in the Marxist society. system and there's it's almost exclusively atheist um in its belief system as worldview which is interesting because Karl Marx was the son of a preacher he was a preacher's kid those preacher's kids man they mess up the world but um ah so he he was an atheist and he really this whole system is very materialistic and very um scientific if you will, that is to say, um only rational, only only physical things you can explain are real, and the supernatural is not not really there, and we're all just we're all just bags of flesh that are arranged, collection of chemicals randomly arranged so that we have intelligence, but there is no meaning.
Marxism vs. Biblical Teachings
00:04:32
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And that's a big problem with Marxism is that it has a hard time producing meaning in the world and in life. um You know, there is a, um the Bible itself is very anti-communist.
00:04:50
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um Some Christians don't quite understand that. um A very important key of the Marxist ideology and the communist ideology is that nobody owns anything.
00:05:03
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There's no private ah ownership of either land or any personal property of any kind. And that really is in opposition to a lot of things in the Bible, including the, the, the 10 commandments. They say there's the 10 commandments says thou shalt not steal.
00:05:19
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Well, if nobody owns anything, you can't steal anything. So it presupposes personal own property, personal, um, private ownership of, ah of a money or, uh, land or buildings, assets of different kinds. Because if you don't own it, then it can't be stolen from you.
00:05:38
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So that's that's presupposed by the Ten Commandments. And then, you know, we have ah passages like 1 Timothy 5 verse 8. says, if any provide not for his own, especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel. So you're worse than an unbeliever if you do not take care of your own. And that is your household.
00:06:04
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And so how can you take care of your household if you don't own anything? Now, you know, I think that that sort of also presupposes personally owning things, stuff, the food that you feed your family, the house, the shelter they live in, the clothes you put on their back, personal ownership.
00:06:22
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And so, you know, some people point to Acts chapter four, when the disciples were all sharing and it says they all shared equally everything that they had.
00:06:35
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They went and they sold all their stuff and they just shared it equally among everyone. And the disciples, you know, decided who needed it and they would give it away. And that's a beautiful, you know, a beautiful picture of the early church and how they were interacting together. There's just one very, very important distinction between that and communism.
00:06:56
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And that is that they voluntarily gave of their personal property, as opposed to it being enforced upon them and required that you have to give up your property to the state or to the commune, if you will.
00:07:15
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There's a very big difference between voluntarily doing it and it being insisted or required of you. um And that is a huge difference. and Christians need to recognize that that is a very important distinction between what's happening in Acts chapter four And what actually happens with Marxism leading into communism.
Failures of Communism in History
00:07:35
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So, you know, Christians need to be on guard for this because, you know, um it's seeping into our society in so many different ways. And, you know, even in in not only does scripture forbid it, does scripture um oppose the idea of communal ownership of property? We have some examples from history of why this doesn't work.
00:08:01
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And I don't want to spend a great deal of time because I have a good feeling that most of the people in our audience are, um anti-communists, but just in case you, uh, are not certain of this or, are wrestling through it, maybe in some corners of your world in, in, in the, uh, the Plymouth plantation, when the pilgrims came over from, the old world and they came to Massachusetts and they started this community.
00:08:31
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At first they tried to do it as a communistic society. Nobody owned anything. Everyone got an equal share, no matter how hard they worked. They all ate, they ah they all just kind of distributed the same um the same ah amount of food every day to everybody.
00:08:49
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And William Bradford was the um the governor. He was the leader of the Pilgrims for a good while. And he wrote in his journals about the result of this. And he he talked about how the communistic ah system they had in place, and I don't know that he called it that, but because Karl Marx and communism came along later as as a labeled ideology. But what he described was, you know, if everybody got the same amount of food and clothes and money, whatever it was, it encouraged laziness and encouraged the the shiftless among the society to just, why do I need to go out there and do anything? I'm going to get the same amount of foodie as everybody else.
00:09:35
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Yes. And so then the people that were hardworking and had good character and did it for the community, they did a lot more work than was ah really their share.
00:09:46
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And so they began to be resentful. And what William Bradford discovered, what they did is they gave each person, I think they gave each person an acre of land. or a certain amount. I can't remember. It seemed like it was an acre.
00:09:58
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And they were responsible for that piece of property. They could do anything they wanted to on it. They could let it sit and grow weeds if they wanted to. But they could also work the land. They could raise some cows. They could raise some corn. and They could grow a garden, build their house, however they wanted to build it.
00:10:15
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There was no HOA at all. no None of that. And so code no building codes, no nothing like that. Um, so they, they, what, what they found is that that increased prosperity in the in the society. It increased, it, it rewarded those who were industrious and those that worked hard and it encouraged those that were lazy to get off their butt and go get to working, or they're going to really suffer. They're going to really struggle if they don't actually take personal responsibility for their own life. And so that right there, really is a great example of same exact people, same exact place of the world, same exact time period of the world, and they tried communism and it failed royally, epic fail.
00:11:08
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and And when they applied capitalism and personal responsibility and a more biblical approach to personal property, that encouraged prosperity. They began to produce more than they did when they were
Critiques of Marxism and Its Resurgence
00:11:24
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living communally. So I think the testimony of scripture, the testimony of history, both really tell us that Marxism and communism is a failed ideology. It is it is produced nothing but suffering wherever it has been tried. And, you know, that it it is making a comeback in the guise of socialist ideas that are seeping their way into different corners of our society. We recently had the election of it
00:11:53
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openly kind of openly socialistic, uh, is, uh, I mean, I'm sorry, mayor of New York city, you know, and it's just like, yeah, let's just vote for a communist. That sounds good. Let's give him a try. Uh, it's just insane, just insane, uh, how, how this is overcoming a lot of people in our society. And I think it's even working its way to the church.
00:12:20
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Um, I believe that Megan Bashan points that out in her book, Shepherds for Sale, how there's Marxist forces within the church.
00:12:31
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So, you know, those of you listening out there in our audience, if you think that this is just something that's happening in New York City or it's way out there, it is probably part of your church denomination.
00:12:43
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At some point, there's probably some yeah socialist ideas that have worked their way into your church government and your politics. So we got to be on guard against this because it is not a biblical idea and it is actually against the things that the Bible teaches us.
00:13:03
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And so we need to be on our guard and be aware of it it. Now, I didn't take the time to really, maybe you guys can help me um give some specific examples of either people or teachings that are kind of Full of communist or socialist ideas. um Go ahead, Nate.
00:13:24
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So a couple things real quick. i gotta i want I want to share just a quick sermon just if you guys want to look it up. It's called – so the Altar Fellowship is the church. it's They're down in – where are they at? Johnson City, Tennessee.
00:13:40
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Their pastor, his name is Matty Montgomery, and he has a sermon on YouTube. If you just type it in, the Altar Fellowship, it's called Charlie Kirk and and the Line We Must Draw. It was their sermon that they did the Sunday after he was assassinated. Matty Montgomery used to be a Marxist. um He has an incredible testimony. of He was the lead singer one of my favorite bands. He actually left the band to go start a church. Great guy. But he he used to be a Marxist. He's been about every religion you can imagine before he ultimately met Jesus and had a radical transformation. so But um he breaks down exactly you know the ins and outs of Marxism in a really good way and how that has crept into the church, how it has crept into our culture, and exactly why it's wrong. Something memorable, one of his little one-liners, is that all these crazy lunatic communists that we have running around in our government today…
00:14:31
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and everybody that's voting for them are all enjoying the amenities, luxuries, and privileges that were created by capitalists. But that's a – I'll let him do the discussion on that, but I wanted to throw that out there real quick. But Jared, I think something else that really goes along with what you're talking about is a lot – and this is diving into the PG-13 portion, so if there's any Kids watching, parents, I'll give you a second too to pause the video or or mute it. But a lot of this sexual stuff that we have going on in our culture right now is deeply, deeply blue communist. And I don't know if I mentioned this on a previous episode. There is a book by a guy named Wilhelm Reich that was written, i believe, in the 50s or 60s. It could have been even earlier than that.
00:15:15
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It was written a very long time ago. It's called The Sexual Revolution. And if you read that book, it is unbelievable. How close you would think you were reading a news article that was written two hours ago.
00:15:29
Speaker
And these are all the the stuff that he all the things that he was dreaming of. And the thing about communism, Marxism is there's this idea of utopia. And, you know, it's basically the the. materialistic version of heaven. This is what we're we're getting towards. and There's always a ah currency, i believe, if I'm remembering this. and I'm by no means ah an expert on Marxism or critical theory. as I'm still learning. you know my but you know i'm I'm still studying it myself and trying to make sense of it all and um you know learn about it as best I can. but This idea of utopia in currency and currency, I'm to remember exactly how he described it, but Marx's
00:16:12
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idea of utopia or the currency was was the labor system. And so like man exists for work essentially. well Wilhelm Reich basically takes that idea and says man exists for sex. And so whatever um devolved, um you know, horrendous idea of whatever that might look like for you, all I'm trying to get at is he removes all of the societal
00:16:45
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guardrails that we ought to have around a sexual subject to the point where now this is where pedophilia comes in and he was advocating for pedophilia being a you know if you if you want to if that's you that's you and so that's why i'm saying i it's i'm probably butchering how i'm explaining this but A lot of this LGBT stuff, a lot of this pedophilia, a lot of the sexual perversion that we are seeing in our culture today was written about and dreamed of not just 100 years ago because it's been going on. i mean, if you go back to Caesarea Philippi 2,000 years ago, it was going on then too. And ultimately, that's the work of Satan. um you know Communism and Marxism can claim to be –
00:17:33
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materialistic all they want, but ultimately we know that there is a spiritual force behind it that they
Marxism's Impact on Family and Religion
00:17:39
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deny. i mean, even the Church of Satan will claim that they are atheistic and that they don't actually believe in a deity.
00:17:47
Speaker
That is very much a gateway to get people sucked in. And, you know, you you talk to any Satanist that's been doing it for Two or more years, and you'll find that what started as a you know fun little social club that was just basically atheist with a fun name on it turns into something much deeper and much darker very quickly.
00:18:05
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um you know you You look at – Hitler's not Karl Marx, but Hitler was obsessed with the occult, and you know it's – you see very quickly in a society, and you see the history and the evils that have come out – these these systems of government that very much have a ah satanic bend to them. Go ahead, Jared. It's interesting how those things kind of go together, isn't it?
00:18:31
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Yeah. Because, you know, we don't really find capitalist Satanists.
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Or, you know, um we don't find conservative atheists. I mean, we do sometimes, I suppose, but... um Capitalism tends to lead lead towards Christianity, whereas communism tends to lead towards, you know, anti-God things, occult things, dark things, or vice versa. I mean, did they just kind of go hand in hand. um You know, when I was growing up in the youth group, I had these three friends and all three of them had brown hair, glasses, and they were left-handed.
00:20:00
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And we always thought that was kind of interesting. And so over the years, I have asked people that had glasses and had brown hair, I'd say, are you left-handed? And very often they will say, yes, I am. that How did you know? i said, because I think there's some sort of genetic anomaly that cause if you're left-handed and you have brown hair, it cause you have poor eyesight or, you know, whatever. Those three things seem to go together. So, you know, Marxist ideology and the occult and Satanism, they kind of,
00:20:32
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go together. i think that's rather intriguing. There's a reason for that. The Marxist ideology strongly depends on the abolition of both family and religion.
00:20:43
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You cannot have a successful Marxist regime if there is any authority structure outside of the state. So you have to, by necessity, to be able to get people completely dependent upon their government to reject the concept that there is a God.
00:20:58
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that they are subservient to, that holds moral authority, that has objectives for their life. ah Karl Marx was extremely anti-God. He was also extremely anti-family. He didn't believe that family structures were beneficial to the society overall, that children belong to the state.
00:21:15
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You even saw that a little bit with Hillary Clinton whenever she was, I think she was running for president at one point and was talking about how it takes a village to raise a child, that it was somehow the state's and the community's responsibility for your child rearing.
00:21:27
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No, that's wrong. It takes the parents' responsibility to raise the children. And the more that you push away from that concept, the more failed the family becomes, the more corrupt the family becomes, the more troubled the children are because the family is destroyed. Marxism loves that.
00:21:42
Speaker
Marxism needs the family to dissolve. It needs religion to dissolve. It needs anything that would compete with it for the ultimate authority on how you must live your life to be thought as second class. And when you're talking about you know, how the, how Marxism has crept into the church. One of the biggest blinder off moments for me was watching COVID unravel across our country several years ago and seeing how many churches were like, well, we must serve God and worship because God tells us not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together.
00:22:13
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But the state says maybe we should do it over zoom instead. So if you're going to be foolish enough to come to church, you have to put this mask on. You can't stand anywhere close to anybody you know,
00:22:25
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You can't sing out loud. You shouldn't make eye contact and leave immediately the second the service is over. That's the creep of Marxism. The idea that the state, the expert class, that somehow these people know better than God who has commanded you how to conduct your life is a a tacit admission that there's an authority above God, a wiser source of and of information beyond God that we must all be subservient to.
00:22:53
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And that was ah that was a big move. You saw churches like John MacArthur's church stand up and say, no, we'll take the penalties and take the fines. We're not closing. And those churches exploded during that time because Christians were extraordinarily hungry for real leadership because they know there are Christians out there that know that God is the Lord, that God is the king above our kings, the king above our president, the king above our professional class that knows how life must go on.
00:23:21
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And it turns out all these years later, we're finding out now that six feet away was a completely made up threshold, um, that the masks were completely made up safety precautions that had no, uh, no backing research or science that involved any sort of,
00:23:36
Speaker
It was all about control. It was all about control. 100% it was about control. Even churches, Tony, did you know? Even churches that that practiced the six feet and they had they had church outside. they were They were like a long distance away from each other. They were wearing their masks and the state still came in and said, you guys cannot be meeting. We're shutting you down. They were fined. These were churches that were trying to kind of meet them halfway and, you know, play ball a little bit. Nope, good not good enough.
00:24:05
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Not good enough. you guys all. remember reading the bell. Now, you want to go down to the liquor store or the strip club down the street. Those are essential businesses. That's fine. But you can't worship Jesus. you know and Not to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but leading into our next episode.
00:24:20
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But you know there are some people that kind of called that stuff early on, you know saying, hey, you know we come to find out now how the masks and do it. Yeah, we we knew about that about the first week.
00:24:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, the masks is didn't break sixth grade educational levels. Like if you're supposed to be stopping a viral droplet with a material that has, you know, a stitching that's 400 times larger than a virus diameter, it's not effective.
00:24:49
Speaker
And you you should know that immediately. The only thing you're doing, if anything, is aerosolizing everything that you're coughing or breathing out. So it's a much finer mist for everybody else to enjoy. So it's the the idea that they were effective somehow.
00:25:03
Speaker
And the biggest thing is that you go into these churches and you get looked down on because you're not wearing a mask or you haven't masked your four-year-old because you don't want them breathing heavy carbon dioxide content all day, every day. You're looked down upon as though you're a moral lesser because you haven't subjected yourself to the state and you don't really love your neighbor because you don't believe everything came out of CNN.
00:25:23
Speaker
And that's that's wrong. And that's that's something that I think yeah I know this is a quote from scripture, but I couldn't tell you where because I'm a bad Christian. And I heard it from a ah and somebody who was a good Christian.
00:25:36
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It was quoting that occasionally well God will shake the foundations of the world so that the unshakable things will remain. And I think that's exactly what happened in COVID was that the the shaky churches. And when you're talking about Megan Basham, she does an exceptional job. She's a great follow.
00:25:52
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If you you know follow social media figures of any kind, she's she's extremely good. but she did a great job of pointing out essentially who were the pastoral leadership. Unfortunately, a lot of them were in the SBC who were former or in some present who held on to federal grants and held on to federal money in order to peddle federal narratives to make sure that the church subjected its moral authority to whatever the church or whatever the state decided was the correct interpretation of the moral good.
00:26:24
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And a lot of Christians, ended up hating one another, hating their brothers, hating their family because they didn't follow in the right narrative, because they didn't follow the state. That's Marxism. That's the corrosive power of Marxism marxism in our culture today.
00:26:38
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um Marxism, you know, it's it's it doesn't just stem into the economic. It's very cultural in nature. there's There's a lot of other aspects of the world generally and of society generally that it has to pollute first before the economy can follow.
00:26:54
Speaker
Cultural Marxism is just as dangerous as economic Marxism. That's right. and that Cultural Marxism is more like the class is struggling against each other. We're going to put everybody in a box, in a group, and you know we're going to give them a label. So then you know some of those some of those groups will fight each other and ah you know will'll well we'll make one of them you know the super bad guy. if you guys have ever read Animal Farm or have you you know watched the yeah cartoon or something like, you know,
00:27:22
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That is a beautiful picture of how Marxism takes over a society and how communism just seeps its way in. They started, you know, labeling things. Well, you're you're this way. You're not one of those, you know, you're not one of those, you know.
00:27:38
Speaker
i forget what the label was they gave him, but, you know, it's like you're not one of those X guys, are you? You know, oh, yeah yeah, I am. I mean, it's just, it's, it's everywhere. All these different classes, you know, you're classified by race, you're classified by sexual orientation. You're totally right, Nate.
00:27:52
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Sex is a big part of it, but you know, you're, you're giving these groups and some of them are underprivileged and some of them are, you know, the super awesome, you know, interconnected, ah parts of our society that are super special. That's something else too, because racism is a big topic right now. And, um,
00:28:14
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Racism, evolution is very – racism and evolution are very much tied to Marxism and just communist ideology. Hitler was a big fan of evolution because it gave him every bit of justification for his prejudice. And um you know racism and Christianity are completely incompatible. And in the same way that – there's – we We could do an episode in evolution sometime, but you know i
00:28:47
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I will say i have lightened my hand a little bit on those Christians that would claim themselves to be theistic evolutionists. Not that I think they're correct, but I just have come across some very godly men in the last few years that probably wouldn't hold to the same you know answers in Genesis, things that I would believe to be true. And I can't deny that they're brothers in the faith. I just think they're wrong. um But, you know, evolution is very much a tool of the Marxists. Let me just put it there. Again, outside of my – it's kind of outside of my lane, but that's walmark that's that's a ah road you might want to go down if you've never explored that one.
00:29:28
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Marxism relies heavily on the authority class, whether that's the scientific experts or the political experts. Those are the prophets and the priests of the Marxist mentality.
00:29:39
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And you can't go against them. You can't shuck what they say. You can't have a counter narrative. You can't question whether or not their insight is correct. Those are the ones from which they hold all their gospel because they're fed by the state. Their their grant money, their livelihood depends on whether or not the state finds their um their studies and their production of value. So they are extremely easy to corrupt.
00:30:04
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And the the general concept in Marxism when it comes to a culture at large, that a lot of times you'll find people that generally believe, well, this is ah a lot more, um this this is scientific, this is this is backed by experience, this is backed by peer review.
00:30:21
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There's all these various different studies that prove that these particular outcomes come from these particular inputs. And then you go and look into those studies and they're corrupt to the core. you know It's a guy and a friend filling out questionnaires or the questionnaires themselves are extraordinarily directed in the way that they try to offer their research methodology.
00:30:39
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There's a huge, huge problem with trusting the scientific class. That's another thing that COVID blew apart for the entire rest of the country. How many doctors and experts were shut down immediately as soon as COVID started because they were saying, hey, wait a second, maybe Rendezivir is not the best way to try to get after this this cause. It has like a 95% mortality rate and doesn't address any of the symptoms. Maybe it's not the best cure.
00:31:05
Speaker
Or maybe this is, you know for most people, basically a cold, and we need to allow them to build up an immunity that'll um effectively kill the capacity of this virus to spread over a large population. Let's allow that to happen.
00:31:18
Speaker
You know, that was that was basic science long, long ago. Now it's turned into, well, no, if you think that, you know, if ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, any of those kind of things that got proven to be actually helpful,
00:31:30
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you believe any of those things, then you're a science denier, you're eating horse goo, you get propagandized against, you whatever the case may be, to be able to shut you down and close you up to make sure that you don't go against the system. And that's the big danger against Marxism.
00:31:44
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One of the um probably the biggest ironies of the New York situation is you have all of these people that are out there protesting. We need a smaller government. We need a government that's not involved of all of our lives, a government that can't take away my SNAP benefits that can't affect me in any personal way.
00:32:02
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So let me vote in somebody who promises to touch every single aspect of my life entirely with government. it's It was a completely incoherent election based off of what people said they were upset with versus what they elected to be able to solve the problem.
00:32:17
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It was all about feelings. That's what it was. they just I didn't think it was about that. Yeah. just it was Yeah. A lot of them, I don't even know how far they got into that. It was more like, well, this candidate has a good smile.
00:32:30
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This candidate is an old white guy, and we know that's the villain of the world right now. So let's let's just go. Yeah. Hey, Matt, you had something to share. Yeah, so I know we've got a few minutes left. I was just um thinking, like, why do some Christians do get roped into this?
Voluntary Sharing vs. Coerced Redistribution
00:32:50
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I wouldn't say, I mean, Christians like that, you know. maybe start believing some of this. So I was asking ChatGPT as we've been talking, like why why do they think that's a it's biblical or how how do they justify it?
00:33:07
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And um it just, it gave me lot of passages of scripture, Old and New Testament about sharing property, caring for the poor and economic justice.
00:33:22
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And we can probably, I don't have to read them all, but Deuteronomy 15, command ah to open one's hand to the poor and the needy. um You know, the Matthew, if you wish to be perfect, go sell your possessions and give the money to the poor. Calls for justice. Amos condemns those who exploit the poor. So you've got some that people, some scripture that people probably point to to justify it. um Jared, or any anybody really,
00:33:50
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What do you say to that? Like maybe as our kids are reading through things and they come across something like that, maybe they're a little bit confused. how do we How do we work through that? There's one main actor that is absent every single one of those examples, the administrative state.
00:34:06
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ye You must give to the poor. So you must confront the poor. There's a very good reason for that. You need to see it and you need to be involved in it, but also the poor must see the the the gifting.
00:34:20
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The poor must be able to have that opportunity of gratitude to know that it came from your pocket, to know that it came from your expense. When you take all of that away and you put in this giant bloated administrative state that wastes 90% of the interaction to feed themselves and whoever else they need to campaign or but to get into to office or whatever the the corrupt case is in the background, you end up in the situation where we've just experienced in this country where you have people that are brutally upset their SNAP benefits are going away, not a one of them grateful because of what they've been able to receive at the expense of their neighbor, but more ah distraught by the fact that they can't continue to buy a stake on the back of somebody else and now have to pay for it out of their own pocket.
00:35:04
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It removes the gratitude. It removes the accountability. Both of those are necessary components. That's exactly right, Tony. The state is not involved in those scriptures you mentioned, Matt.
00:35:14
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And throughout the Bible, the the the state, the government is not involved in welfare, in social ah causes or or things like that. It is the individual that goes to give to the poor and the needy. And if there's any anyone that's any organization that's also responsible here, it's the church. It's the the body of believers who are responsible to minister to the needy in the community. But the state is not involved in that, and they should make it easy for the church and the individuals within the church to provide charity to those that are in need. But it should never be forced or coerced out of us, and the Bible never justifies the coercion or the taxation of our personal property in order to give it to redistribute the wealth. Redistribution of wealth is nowhere in the Bible.
00:36:10
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um It is when you volunteer to do it, it is there. But it's never coerced out of people. And I think that's important for our children to understand and so that they can be on guard against it.
00:36:23
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even in the case sorry go ahead heyva i was goingnna say Even in the case of Acts, which is typically the strongest example that people go to of people living in common and you know selling their wares and selling their houses and and living off of the the direction of the apostles.
00:36:42
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A lot of those believers in the early church at that time believed the revelation of John to be a prediction of the downfall of Rome that they would see in their lifetime. Whether you follow in that eschatology or not, a lot of them did.
00:36:56
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A lot of them thought Rome was about to be destroyed. A lot of them thought their houses were about to be destroyed, that everything that they owned was about to be confiscated or burned. So in their particular case, them giving everything that they have to the church was an act of foresight and wisdom.
00:37:12
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knowing that I don't know where this is going to be, but it's not going to mean anything in several years from now. Maybe it can mean something for the kingdom of God between now and then. And a lot of them had that heart in common that this was, this was a necessary sacrifice because all they were holding onto is about to be taken from them anyway.
00:37:31
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Yeah, that's good. All right, guys, closing thoughts. We're running up on time.
00:37:37
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I just going off that thing you just mentioned about, you know, the church, um, helping the poor
Church vs. Government in Helping the Needy
00:37:43
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and the needy. You want a really ah shining example of that. You go talk to anybody down in North Carolina, I guarantee you Samaritan's purse is still digging people out from these floods. Yeah. You go, what was it they just had? was it the Was it Jamaica that just had this horrible hurricane come through? Yeah. was one of those islands, yeah. um I mean, dude, like some, it's the Christians that show up. I mean, our own federal government was was bypassing houses that had Trump signs in their yard. in the wake of right of flooding. But, you know, you the reason I know this is because I know a lot of people that unfortunately wasn't able to go down, but our church took a a team to North Carolina and volunteered with Samaritan's Purse and just the testimonies that they had from the locals talking about how grateful they were.
00:38:31
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You know, people that were coming to church because they saw Christians putting their money where their mouth is and, you know, stepping up to the plate when Their own government wouldn't even do it. So, you know you can praise communism all day long, but, you know, look at who's actually doing the work.
00:38:49
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Look at what's actually working. That's right. All right. Well, guys, I think that the lesson to take away from this is that we need to be sharp.
00:38:59
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We need to be on our guard. it You know, even the church is not a safe place from the dangers of this type of teaching and this ideology. So let's be extra careful.
00:39:11
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ah that we are aware and watching for the ah the influx of communist thinking into our society all right well thank you very much no christ but king amen yeah man i can't believe how faster it makes sense but but i can't believe how controversial that phrase became for a while but All right right. God bless you guys. Thank you very much for your contributions. And thank you, all of you out there that are listening in and watching perhaps online. We're grateful for you. We hope that you will subscribe to this episode. If you think this is something worthwhile for you to come back and listen to, you get the same exact ah style right here every time. a little bit of fun thrown in with some important serious topics. And we hope that it's been a benefit to you. And God has blessed you. You can email us your questions to dads at preacherdad.com. That's D-A-D-S at preacherdad.com. We would love to hear from you.
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00:40:38
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Bye-bye.