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S3:E9 Vampires: Folklore vs Media
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Spooky Month is upon us, and what better way to kick it off than to take a look at how vampire folklore has influenced media. Tales from all over the world have inspired poems, plays, music, movies, books, and in weekly television shows. We're here to help connect the dots and bite into October!
Hosted by Crystal with co-hosts Keri and Lindsey.
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Introduction to 'Based on a Book' and Spooky Month
00:00:07
Speaker
Welcome to Spooky Month on Based on a Book, the podcast that will be bringing you supernatural creatures, serial killers, witches, and more. I'm your host, Crystal.
00:00:19
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Yes, I'm a daywalker, but I definitely don't sparkle. I'm Carrie, and unfortunately for k Crystal, I'll be making plenty of Twilight references today, even though she literally just made one.
00:00:34
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And I'm Lindsay, and I read folklore like it's my profession. If you haven't figured it out, this episode is going to discuss vampires.
Origins and Definitions of Vampires
00:00:44
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I thought it would be a good topic because despite the constant Twilight references over the last year, we haven't yet covered a vampire episode.
00:00:54
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So here we are. There are so many books and movies across decades, technically millennia, and the folklore is even more interesting.
00:01:05
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The debate rages on over social media about what is or isn't a vampire and what vampires are or are not capable of. In this episode, we will not determine whether or not a vampire with a warrant can enter your home without an invitation, but we will hopefully tell you something you didn't know before.
00:01:25
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Part of what makes vampires so hard to define is that there are so many different cultural vampire origins that inspired authors and screenwriters all over the world.
00:01:36
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I'm going to rely ah bit on my co-hosts for this part because there's no way I've seen or read all the vampire movies, shows, books, or bands out there.
00:01:48
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But the three of us together probably can vouch for a chunk. Most of our listeners, and even Carrie and Lindsay, Carrie just told me ahead of time, pretty familiar with the medieval Southeastern Europe Transylvania style vampires.
00:02:04
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Reanimated corpses of the undead that suck the blood of the living, usually returning to their homes or communities to seek revenge or generally cause
Vampire Myths Across Cultures
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chaos.
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Think the Lost Boys, Dracula. Lindsay, help me out.
00:02:22
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Transylvania style. Count Orloff. Nosferatu. was going to say Nosferatu. There you go. Sam's Lot. Dusk Till Dawn. There you go. Yeah. Traditional.
00:02:35
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We're going to suck your blood. Vampires out at night. But there are tons of other vampiric creatures from across folklore that show up in our pop culture too.
00:02:48
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One of my favorites comes from West Africa. The Sasa Bonsam has iron teeth, lives in the trees, attacking anyone who enters their forest, similar to the Baba Yaga of Slavic yore, who also has iron teeth and eats children.
00:03:08
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Does this sound familiar, Carrie? Yes. Throne of Glass by Iron Teeth Witches. Yes. The Yellow Legs, which is in particular, really remind me of the Baba Yaga. ah i When I read that the first time in Throne of Glass series, I was like, oh, I know this one. I know this one. but Yeah.
00:03:30
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Of course, they were completely different in a lot of other ways. Which I think is super interesting. You know, I think about it with Faye in general. Just, I mean, the most familiar, the my first introduction to Faye, the Faye that we read a lot in romanticcy now, is they have sharp teeth and some of them like do like
Historical Links to Vampirism
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bite.
00:03:54
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Yeah. And sometimes, you know, suck blood similar to vampires. They have a lot of vampire qualities to them. Yeah. as well Vampire is very much a category, more so than a specific, I think, in a lot of folklore.
00:04:13
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Whereas in media, when you say vampire, you think of a very specific type. Like a creature versus a species or something. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:25
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Yeah. In ancient Greece, they have their own tale of vampirism. Back to Homer's The Odyssey, where the undead are too weak to speak with Odysseus without drinking blood, so he sacrifices a ram to quench their thirst.
00:04:44
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This is one of the first written references to the undead's need for blood and suggests that it doesn't have to be human blood to sustain them. I hate to say it, but I think that was my next Twilight reference.
00:05:00
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I got you covered, Carrie. But also think in interview with a vampire where they survive on rats for a bit in hiding.
00:05:13
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so So it happens a few times. But there are also the vampires that have the super serious sex appeal.
00:05:24
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The Bavanchi from the Scottish Highlands is a succubus-like creature. That's beauty is said to be impossible to resist, and they are weak in sunlight. They don't die, apparently, but that's there's different versions of that tale.
00:05:43
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Or, and I'm going to massacre this pronunciation, but I think it's Ludwark. In northern Hungary, that's a satanic lover posing in human form as a dead lover to seduce his female victims, but must disappear by the crowing of the rooster at dawn.
00:06:04
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So sex appeal is definitely a thing that was going on with vampires and vampire-like creatures for a pretty long time. Probably not count or law, kind of.
00:06:17
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No, thank you. But... Yeah. Maybe some of these other vampires. Yeah, I feel like... Like, I'm not familiar... Like, I'm very basic knowledge... of vampire folklore.
00:06:33
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And i I think it's just so interesting... in media... Like, i we kind of, like... I talked about this, touched on this with you guys earlier. That... Whenever...
00:06:46
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There is so many jumps between hot and scary, like sexy and scary vampires. Mm-hmm. like over the course from like 1800s to now.
00:07:00
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Right. Like whether we're scared of vampires or we want to be seduced by these vampires. Whether it's, you know, like folklore or in the media.
00:07:11
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And it's like, especially, I mean... Whenever we had Dracula, like that was scary vampire, right? Right. Super scary. And even Nosferatu, that's really scary vampire.
00:07:25
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and then you get into like the 80s, you get sexy and scary vampires. And then you get to 90s, 2000s.
00:07:37
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We're getting sexy romance vampires all over the place. Mm-hmm. So I think that's interesting that, I mean, I didn't know if folklore also included like seductive vampires as well. Girl, you love Buffy and you didn't know about like the succubus and the incubus?
Evolution of Vampire Literature
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Well, I do know about a succubus, but... But it's a type of vampire. Yeah, true. It's shocking to me how many vampire-like creatures there are. Now, if we narrow it down to only sucking blood by biting the neck...
00:08:10
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it definitely narrows the list a bit, but a lot of draining your blood and life force creatures out there. Yeah, I guess I never thought of like a succubus falling into that category.
00:08:24
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See, and that's, I feel like there's such a differentiation between like the folklore style vampires and versus those that we see portrayed in media. Because in media, they focus a lot more on differentiating the different types of creatures. Like if you are not blood sucking vampire, then we're going to call you something else, which is fair and legitimate, but I feel like they all still kind of fall under that vampire umbrella, you know?
00:08:55
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We see a lot of the turning of the coin from just straight, scary, horrific, grotesque vampires into the sex appeal or the romanticized vampires right about the time tuberculosis suddenly became sexy too.
00:09:13
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You know, John Green, John, Hank's brother, John, right? covers that in everything is tuberculosis, how like tuberculosis chic was actually a thing.
00:09:26
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In New England, there were a lot of areas that blamed tuberculosis deaths on vampires. They thought that you know these were the the dead coming back to feast on their live families. But yeah, like, wasn't it always like they were like always associate or they would be associated with like disease or something. Exactly.
00:09:52
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you know, and a lot of that goes back to not necessarily knowing what germs were, you know? Yeah. So they wanted to blame their, their dead family members coming back to life to kill them rather than just, we should probably wash our hands and,
00:10:08
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you know, basic personal hygiene would help. But you know, far be it from me to tell anybody what to do. But it is when you look at all of the the folklore and the stories handed down through all these different cultures and traditions, it's really easy to see how writers all over the world have drawn inspiration from these tales.
00:10:34
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Some of the first published vampire literature was in poems in the late 1700s and early eighteen hundreds Lots of poems. theyre Lord Byron wrote poems.
00:10:45
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This guy who I found called John William Polidori, which I think is hilarious name, wrote a short short story that was published in 1819. But really what shaped our view as a society of vampires today Was Varney the Vampire?
00:11:07
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it was a series serials, the Penny Dreadful type publications, weekly publications from 1845 1847.
00:11:18
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eighteen forty five to eighteen forty seven That is the first reference to vampires with fangs, with pointed teeth. One of the first references to vampires sleeping in their coffins.
00:11:31
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Whereas a lot of vampire folklore is vampires coming out of their coffins, the dead coming, rising from their coffins, and then returning to them during the day.
00:11:42
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They return to them in their grave. But Varney the vampire had a coffin he kept at home.
Vampires in Film and Romance
00:11:49
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You know, when we start seeing more of those references, that's when suddenly we get, we start getting capes on in our depictions of Dracula.
00:12:00
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And it really becomes more of a, what we see in media even now, that classic quote unquote vampire image.
00:12:13
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And that brings us to... the 1900s where we start really sliding into movies and media exploding with almost generational, almost every 10 years, these cycles of vampires becoming popular again.
00:12:35
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um course, we had Nosferatu, the original um black and white I can't remember what year that was exactly. 1922. I was going to 1920s.
00:12:49
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We have, and then the nineteen thirty s we have Bela Lugosi's Dracula that everybody knows. i love Bela Lugosi's Dracula. Honestly. That's my favorite. I was talking to my mom and I know I asked you guys to talk to your parents or people with like a 10 year age gap to see what they said was they're like,
00:13:07
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favorite or key vampire stuff and my mom said Bela Lugosi I didn't expect her to say that don't know what I expected her to say don't know I thought maybe like the Munsters because Grandpa Munster was a vampire but I don't know or maybe even Count Chocula like the Count from Sesame Street but she was all like no Bela Lugosi I was like okay get a girl what did your parents say you guys
00:13:39
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Uh, mine, ah my dad loves, uh, the lost boys. That's his favorite. That's one of my faves. My little sister. Every single time. That's all I play.
00:13:51
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They just play that song. That song over. a loop in that movie. Yeah. 20 times. I don't think they have any other song in that entire soundtrack. They probably do. That movie and it was still right.
00:14:05
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I feel like that movie in particular was on.
00:14:10
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like cable on repeat through like the late 80s, early 90s nonstop. I probably like nonstop. It was just the rerun that we all saw a thousand times.
00:14:21
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I actually have only seen, I saw only like bits and pieces of it and like knew a lot about it, but then finally watched it actually from beginning to end for like the first time last year.
00:14:34
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i like knew the entire story because I've just like, I feel like I've seen every scene in it, but never actually watched it all the way through until last year. I'm still certain to this day. It's one of the reasons I don't like plain white rice.
00:14:49
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Yeah. Can't, can't do it. but My mom, she loves Brom Soaker's Dracula. And then she also loves Twilight, like me. Twilight transcends time, apparently. Yeah, we were both like reading Twilight at the same exact time. And we both went and saw it in theaters and all that stuff. So we love it.
00:15:14
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And Buffy. She's the one who got me into Buffy when I was younger. There you go. Lindsay, how about you? What did your fam say? um My mom doesn't do vampires or anything scary. ah A girl after own heart.
00:15:27
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I love it.
00:15:29
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and my stepdad really likes From Dusk Till Dawn. Yeah. so yeah I feel like there was a phase. i don't know. I want to say like early ninety s ish, late 80s, maybe, till the 2000, where every hot actor, like, if you were a big name actor, you had to be in some sort of vampire movie.
00:15:57
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You know? Yeah. So we had, like, George Clooney's Dust Till Dawn, which is one of my favorites, too. It's crazy dumb, but so good. And, of course, Interview with a Vampire with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt.
00:16:12
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That's still top tier, even though I didn't enjoy the book. I don't care what anybody says.
00:16:19
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My daughter really was like Vampire Diaries. She was like, everybody loved Vampire Diaries. And she's like, but I've still never seen a single episode. was like, well, maybe maybe that's the next thing we do together.
00:16:33
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i really love Vampire Diaries. That's like one of my personal favorites. I've still never seen it. that She says, and they based on a book? I was like... Baby is in the title.
00:16:44
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but She was like, oh she had her moment. of My son, who is six now, loves Hotel Transylvania. There's four of them.
00:16:55
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case anybody wondered, how did that happen? I don't know. Right. actually I've actually never seen any of them. Right. It's. To me, it's one of those that's like, they're good. The first one was good.
00:17:09
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I enjoyed it. The second one was like, okay, yeah, i get it. The first one was really cute. They're going to have to make a second. I get it. I don't, I've not seen the third or the fourth. I don't feel a need to. Yeah. But.
00:17:20
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I feel like a big. For my generation, I feel, or at least in my experience, I won't say for my generation because I also was watching Buffy and I don't think that was necessarily my generation, but something that was that was I was very involved in watching and everything.
00:17:40
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And a big theme during like ninety s early 2000s,
00:17:49
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in these vampire stories in media is this unrequited romance between this, the vampire and the human or something, or like this forbidden love.
00:18:04
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And also like the seduction from a vampire where they also have like this eternal youth and they're just like,
00:18:17
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I don't know. It's just like weird.
Modern Portrayal of Vampires
00:18:19
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It's like I noticed that when I was like looking through all these ones that I was obsessed with, i was like, wow, they all have the same exact theme. They literally all have the same exact theme and they're all doing the same thing. And the reason why I love each of them is for the same reason. And it's not just because of my personal taste of what I love. It's what's pulling the viewer into it.
00:18:42
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Right. Vampire Diaries, Twilight, Buffy. You know, it's even Underworld is like one of yeah one of my favorites.
00:18:53
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There's like a forbidden relationship or something that's happening in all of these movies that are pulling you into it, like some romantic element. And that's like a big theme that was happening in a lot of these vampire movies.
00:19:11
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Well, we start getting into like the vampires versus werewolves and you know and the lichens thing, and that turns into the Romeo and Juliet of the supernatural world. you know yeah For me, it was ah Laurel K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series because the main character is a necromancer and- the in the main vampire.
00:19:35
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he's like the head of one of the cities. And it's really an odd combination. i have to ask you in the... Wait, hold on. Let check my game before I... want to make sure I'm not going to mess up. Okay. In our... In the Dresden Files, which is a series that I really love, the vampires are in different courts, right? You have like the red court and the black court and the white court.
00:19:58
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Do they have that in Anita Blake at all? It is very similar to a court system, but there are vampires that are heads over certain cities. Okay. So there is a hierarchy.
00:20:12
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I just, i I found like, to me it was a little, and don't want to say weird, but like to have them like, in like different courts have different properties, like different types of vampires, like more succubus style or more, I don't know, something else.
00:20:29
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So it was very, I don't know. Interesting. Because you see that in Interview with the Vampire. you see that in Twilight. That they're ruled by some sort of almost royal type.
00:20:44
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Royalty type structure. A family that rules you know rules all vampires or whatever. Or you see some sort of governing body a lot. um I always thought that was really interesting. We didn't see that in a lot of the earlier media. We don't see that in the folklore at all. That is very much a new thing being entered into what will become the folklore because that's what folklore is. is you know It's the lore of the folk. It's what we make it. And so we're seeing this changing the stories of what vampires are and how they act and what they're capable of.
00:21:25
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I mean, as much as I hate to say it, legit, there are people, human beings alive right now that don't know that sparkling vampires is a joke.
00:21:38
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Yep, it's true. I'm afraid of that. Well, like, I just think about all the different things of, like, what...
00:21:48
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some ah stories say that vampires are capable of or what they say that they're unable to do. I think it's really interesting. And another one that kind of has like that same type of like, almost like,
00:22:04
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government system within like their own different species is also like discovery of witches. Right. And they also have that forbidden like romance element in it because they're across different species of, ah because it's a romance between a vampire and a witch, which is like in this world is a big no, no.
00:22:23
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Right. And again, very interesting. And this is where I think that, you know, in a lot of stories, a lot of media, we see vampires, represented in the same way that the fae is represented in having like seely fae versus unseely fae or spring court or you know like in um akatar where we have night court and day court and fall court and spring court and like and so you have these different structures governing structures of the fae and you see those crossing over into you you know the vampire media as well i think that's pretty interesting
00:23:03
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And something I totally kind of like completely forgot about because a lot of the movies or TV shows that I've watched with vampires, they don't usually have this as part of their abilities is shape shifting.
00:23:21
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hmm. And I forgot that that's honestly like with a lot of older movies for vampires. I mean, shape-shifting into like a bat, that was like usually a big thing. And that's not usually very common in a lot of stuff now, but that's a big fey thing.
00:23:42
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It's a big fey thing, and it's a big folklore thing. Most vampire or vampiric characters ah creatures could fly somehow, whether they transformed into a bat, some into a moth, some into fireflies in Africa, they transformed into fireflies, which I'm ever going to be an undead creature.
00:24:02
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pick that one. How cool would that be? huh You know, so there's a lot of variations of these vampires shape shifting. And that's something that we're seeing go away.
00:24:15
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Also, immortality. We, you know, although it's a little implied in some folklore, it's never specifically stated that any of these creatures are immortal.
00:24:27
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That's something that we see only in media.
Hosts' Favorite Vampire Shows
00:24:32
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So I think that's pretty cool, too. That is pretty cool. What are some of your favorite current...
00:24:42
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vampire shows i mean mean twilight i'm not gonna sit here and say that it's my favorite it's just like nostalgic to me my current favorite right now like i said before it's discovery witches like that is peak and i will continue to tell everyone to watch it and read it you haven't watched and read it go freaking do that because it's so so good it's so good feel like people don't talk about this and enough lindsey how about you my current favorite show which just ended is what we do in the shadows
00:25:24
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I'm so glad you brought that up because funny vampires, I don't want to say it's new. It's new in the last like 25 to 30 years. We don't see comedy very much in vampires, but like that's top notch.
00:25:41
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That's, you know, we started seeing it with Buffy, you know, a little bit of that. I don't know how to put it, that irreverence, you know, that Buffy had towards the Valley – even the Buffy movie, even that whole Valley Girl situation.
00:25:59
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Yeah, that's how I'm glad you brought that one up because that's, to me, one of the biggest pushers of vampires into comedy.
00:26:11
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i mean, you really see it as early as, like – 1948 with abbott and costello meet frankenstein right and you even saw it with varney the vampire a little bit in the serials you see it a little bit but it's really kind of a very rare but i like it doesn't become the big mainstream the way what we do in the shadows um dead which and and seriously that's like peak comedy that's That shit's hilarious. Oh, that's absolute peak comedy. It really is.
00:26:42
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I think one of my favorites right now, you know, it's not current, but I'm starting to like Buffy. I never watched it when it came out. My family was not big on having television on all the time.
00:26:56
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We didn't have cable anyways. We lived out in the sticks, so we didn't get a lot of, you know, channels or anything. And it just wasn't that big of a deal to me. um Carrie convinced me to give it a go. And at first I was like, this is shit.
00:27:11
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Yeah. I'm rewatching it. And I honestly, I was like laughing, thinking of somebody watching it for the first time. And I was thinking of you. But you have to like, you have to, you have to settle into it.
00:27:22
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You know what i mean? You have to even like, I'm trying to remember of like where I was in my life at the time these came out. And it's, I don't know. I feel like I'm, I'm kind of settling into the groove of it a little more. And I'm really enjoying myself. And I'm glad that you convinced me to give it a go.
00:27:37
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Yay. And then you'll be ready for the new one that's going to come out. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Yeah, they're gonna make they're gonna make a new one with the new Slayer and everything. But she's involved in the project, which is really great.
Vampire Creature Comparisons
00:27:49
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Sarah Michelle Gellar. Gellar. So that's gonna be cool. I know. I'm kind of excited about that. Yeah, I love that she's involved with it, because I don't know how I would feel if she wasn't. Right. Well, you guys, that brings us to my game.
00:28:04
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love the game. it's gonna if This one's going to be short, I think. Because okay it was hard. I didn't realize quite how hard these were to put together. i have a newfound respect for Lindsay's Stephen King game. that Damn, girl, you must have spent forever on that.
00:28:19
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I'm impressed with you. Thank you. and I had to come up with stories didn't think were real. so i And they were so good. They really were. So this game is called Vampire or Blank. I'll fill in the blank.
00:28:35
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But then I'll describe the trait of a supernatural creature. And Lindsay and Carrie will have to guess if it belongs to a vampire or the other creature. think that makes sense?
00:28:48
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Yep. hope Okay. Yep. Yep. So the first one is, is it vampires or lichens that can't cross running water? I'm going vampires. was going to say, I think this is vampires.
00:29:02
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It is vampires. But Carrie, can you think of anything else that can't cross running water? From ACOTAR, maybe? That can't cross running water ACOTAR? And is tempted by a chicken?
00:29:18
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And can answer any question that you ask it? the cereal oh yeah i was like wait but what is the cereal we don't freaking know i don't even think sarah j mass knows but Yeah, like, honestly, what is the cereal? I was gonna say a spirit can't cross.
00:29:41
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Lots of things can't cross. but That's the thing that that makes vampires so hard to define is their characteristics are a lot than traits are more than a lot others.
00:29:53
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Romanian mythology itself. From what literally I, and this is like basic, is that, and so don't comfort me now, okay?
00:30:05
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Is that they were originally known as spirits. Yes. A lot of them were- rise from the grave. Yeah, is spirits or ghosts or demons possessing a body or, yeah And they were known as like, ah I mean, I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this correctly.
00:30:23
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So correct me if I'm wrong. Like, Stryga or something? Yep, Stryga. There's a like 18,000 different pronunciations for that one word.
00:30:36
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so But yeah, Stryga. You mean the character in Akatar? I know, I was thinking that. What do you know? yeah Speaking of Akatar...
00:30:47
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Next question is vampires or witches, which can be killed by an ash stake through the heart? I'm assuming both because I'm pretty sure you can kill almost anything. There's a lot of stuff that kills vampires that would kill literally anything.
00:31:04
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so ah Yeah, I feel like it's both. I mean, honestly, I'm pretty sure any creature is going to die with something through the heart. I'm going to say most. yeah.
00:31:16
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I'm going to say this is... i'm going to say this is
00:31:23
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Ash from Witch Tree.
00:31:28
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I'm done. Is it ACOTAR again? Because of the fae? legit It's an ACOTAR reference. I'm starting to think that Sarah J. Maas went down the wiki hole that I went down and wrote a story.
00:31:38
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But this is vampires and it's from Russian and Baltic lore. But in other cultures, they prefer different types of wood. So really depends on which culture we're going with, but specifically ash in some of the original Baltic like va vampire lore.
00:31:56
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Interesting. Okay. So question number three, vampires or fae can't touch iron. Oh, fae.
00:32:09
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It's fae. However, the Romani people did use iron needles through the heart and other various organs to help ensure that bodies would not turn into vampires.
00:32:22
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Oh, okay. i thought it was kind of interesting.
00:32:27
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Vampires or werewolves, the condition is hereditary or genetic. Werewolves. Werewolves. Yes, but also kind of a trick question because male vampire can impregnate a human female and create day walkers.
00:32:47
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And then in the South Slavic folklore, when that happens, the babies born also have special powers and can like see and track other vampires, which is where we get the movie Blade.
00:33:01
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i was going to say Blade or Renesmee. Renesmee. Not Renesmee. Look at Lindsay with the Twilight reference. I'm going to be flashbacks to that crazy looking CGI baby. Okay. That's for real.
00:33:16
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Alright, question number... Wait, wait, wait. Lindsay, insert Renesmee right here. on the YouTube video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, question number five. Vampire or troll...
00:33:32
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Troll? Yeah. I had to come up with a lot of various creatures for this question. Are we talking bridge troll or like ogre troll? but Like ogre troll. ah Okay. guy Sparkles in the sunlight.
00:33:48
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Neither. I'm just kidding. Vampire. Vampire. it's yeah sure. You're like, actually, it's a troll.
00:33:58
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Yeah. Trolls are ogres are killed by sunlight. So I thought that those two would go together, but no, it's. Ogres are like onions.
00:34:09
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but They really are. but okay Vampires or pixies live in hives. Vampires. Vampires. I'm going vampires.
00:34:22
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Technically both. I'm pretty sure pixies do, but in the movie dust till dawn. We're in high. hmm.
00:34:29
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shoot i can't remember oh couldn't read it because it's a really weird word vampires or chupacabra can shapeshift vampires vampires we already discussed this thought you were gonna say sucks the blood of goats both both
00:34:52
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vampires or rodents of unusual size Sleep in swamps. mean, a vampire could sleep in a swamp.
00:35:04
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Is it dark in there? It's the fire swamp, so no. If you've ever read Charlie and Harris, the Sookie Stackhouse series, they're in Louisiana. There swamps there.
00:35:15
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Aren't they? I really need to read those books. I really need to in my giant list. Well, that's it. I didn't tell anybody scores. That was the game, folks. Love it.
00:35:28
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Did a great job, right? you did. It's really hard because legitimately, I probably could have said that vampires are all of those things because there's so many different folklore variations of vampires. Yeah.
00:35:41
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so but I mean, I'm sure everyone could probably argue, well, they do this and then they do this. Yeah. And again, that's why at the very beginning of this episode, it for those of you who skipped over and didn't listen, we're not giving you a definitive vampire description here because i don't think there really is one.
00:36:00
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And if that hurts your feelings, I apologize. That was not my intent. But also maybe... and I don't know. It's just on you. Yeah.
00:36:12
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I think, like, I honestly sit here and think, like, vampire is probably one of, like, the top of like, the food chain type of creature. Mm-hmm.
00:36:25
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Honestly, like they have very limited weaknesses. I mean, depending on what you're talking about, though, like if you're talking about like I'm thinking like Buffy vampires, you can't go outside during the daylight.
00:36:39
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Right. You know, you've got yeah Some holy water and some crucifixes will take you out immediately. Have you guys ever noticed that like the things that kill vampires or ward off vampires are the same things that we would use for somebody who is sick or had an infection?
00:36:59
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Yeah. Like garlic, sunlight, holy water is supposedly a purification thing. That was an old cure for a lot of things. you know just think that's really interesting. Yeah. And well, I think whenever I was, you know, doing a little bit of research, I was associating it with never, you know, vampires being associated with the spread of like disease and stuff.
00:37:22
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And then that was their way of protecting themselves. Absolutely. So I think that's interesting. There you go.
Episode Wrap-up and Future Teasers
00:37:30
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Well, guys, I think that wraps up our vampire episode.
00:37:35
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00:37:47
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00:37:58
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