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College Football Playoff Round 1 Predictions and NFL QB Drama
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The boys break down their favorite bowl matchups and give some of their best bets, predict all four of the CFP games including Indiana/ND, Texas/Clemson, Penn State/SMU, and TN/OSU, and they talk about some news out of the NFL.
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Transcript
Introduction and Theme Setup
00:00:12
Mason
What is up, everybody? This is Mason with the Next Guy ah podcast. I got Zach here. I got Tinsley here. ah You know how they had the big three on the Heat, where it was Chris Bosh, LeBron, and D-Wade?
Drafting Best Trios in History
00:00:24
Zack
Mm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:00:24
Mason
We're back, baby.
00:00:25
Mason
All all three of us in in the studio today. We got the takes. Tinsley's shaking his head. He's ready to go. How's everybody doing? How how are we doing, Zach?
00:00:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Good.
00:00:35
Zack
I think that should be a draft. Best trios in history.
00:00:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh,
Personal Challenges and Anecdotes
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Zack
Three Musketeers.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
best big threes.
00:00:42
Mason
Would you dr but you draft us the 101?
00:00:44
Zack
That's big threes.
00:00:47
Mason
We could come up with something like that.
00:00:47
Zack
Papa Bear, Mama Bear, Baby Bear.
00:00:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're up there.
00:00:51
Zack
That's got a podcast.
00:00:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm. Yeah. We're, we're, we're a big three.
00:00:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
been we've been on the We've been banged up a little bit the last couple of weeks.
00:00:56
Zack
Okay.
00:00:59
Zack
We've been taking shots from everywhere.
00:01:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's been, but we're back.
00:01:04
Zack
Trying to get keep this down.
00:01:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're all here.
00:01:11
Zack
Yeah, we're recording a little late. Mason doesn't know about this, but there were some tragedies happening around.
00:01:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's some children.
00:01:18
Mason
Oh yeah.
00:01:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's some children stuff going on in to the households. Uh, the Mason reminds himself, he's like, oh yeah, fun uncle. That's why I say that.
00:01:26
Mason
yeah Been saying it for years.
00:01:31
Zack
I was ready to jump on. My baby decides to just throw up all over the place and spit up all over my wife. And used when youre she was like just about ready for sleep.
00:01:42
Zack
And then it's just like, you got to start all over again. You got to change all the clothes.
00:01:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I, uh, yeah.
00:01:46
Zack
You got to just start the whole process again.
00:01:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's that's tough. i got my first I have my first really funny ah Tatum story for everyone real quick.
00:01:56
Zack
Mm hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Didn't tell the boys the shit. um So last night, I was very tired. ah
00:02:01
Zack
Mm hmm.
00:02:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We had a quick hospital stay. Morgan had a minor, she had a surgery this week. It's been a chaotic few days for your boy. I was on a daddy duty of three by myself up until today.
00:02:12
Zack
Yep.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So it's been crazy. So last night, very tired. Tatum gets up at 3 a.m. to eat. I I guess I was like sleepwalking doing it. And luckily Morgan was like, what are you doing? I made his bottle, but it just filled it up with Sprite. And um as I was changing his diaper.
00:02:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He peed all over me, just direct impact, shot it at me.
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Mason
Hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I was like still tired, still where I was just like, oh, I just went, oh, he's peeing on me.
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Mason
Hmm.
00:02:42
Zack
I'm just taking it.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I was still like moving kind of slow. And Morgan was like, go get in the shower. I i can, I can untag again. I'm okay. So that was first I got, finally got peed on all my friends at work.
00:02:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're like, I have boys. They're like, it's going to happen. He's going to pee on you.
00:03:01
Zack
I've been peed on but it's less it's less violent not sneak by tens almost feeding tatum sprite Because boy that would have been something right there I don't
00:03:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Finally happened.
00:03:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Yeah. Yeah. The girls, when they're a little like I'd pick them up to go take them to the bathtub and oh, they peed on me. But no, this was different. This was like, this was a lot. This isn't it's had to strip the bed.
00:03:15
Mason
Did he?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everything had to get thrown in the washer at 3am.
00:03:19
Mason
Hmm, did he get any of the sprite?
00:03:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I did. it was So I don't know.
00:03:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Morgan was like, where's his bottle? And I was like, I think I put it on the bassinet. And she was like, what did you put? Why is this clear liquid? And then she like opened it and smelled it.
00:03:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She's like, this is Sprite. I was like, I don't know what I did. i don't I had to be honest with you. I don't know what's going on.
00:03:45
Zack
I thought you were going to say like code red or something.
00:03:46
Mason
So he didn't try any of it.
00:03:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then she said she went to the kitchen. I had put the distilled water lid on the Sprite and the Sprite lid on the distilled water. She was like, I don't know what your problem was. I was like, I don't either.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was like sleepwalking. Yeah, I was on another planet.
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Zack
He even know where he was.
00:04:02
Mason
So that's a, so they were next to each other. So that was like, uh, I was like, how did you end up?
00:04:09
Zack
No, you don't feed a baby
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Mason
No, maybe
Fantasy Football Debate and Humor
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Zack
water.
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Mason
as it was milk. Okay. I gotcha now.
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Zack
Well, I guess you're using the water to make formula this way.
00:04:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, formula.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
Okay.
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Mason
Yeah.
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Zack
Right.
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Mason
I looked at big three.
00:04:24
Mason
Uh, the number one was LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, LeBron James, DeWade Wade, waig Chris Bosch, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker.
00:04:27
Zack
Ooh. That's a bad dick.
00:04:34
Mason
And then look, next guy up podcast, number, number four.
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Zack
Take that.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
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Mason
That's crazy stuff.
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Zack
Wow.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'd take number four.
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Zack
Shout out to us.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i I can live with that.
00:04:42
Mason
Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Wes Welker.
00:04:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Fun fact, Wes Welkner never won a Super Bowl. Neither did Randy Moss with the Patriots.
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Mason
And they're going to be in the big three paint manning, uh, Ejner. How do you say his name?
00:04:57
Zack
Marvin Harrison.
00:04:58
Mason
James and Marvin Harrison. Yeah.
00:05:01
Zack
Adrian James.
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Mason
There you go. Words.
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Zack
Hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Where it's amazing.
00:05:05
Mason
And we were on there top 10.
00:05:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
00:05:09
Mason
So, um, real quick, Zach is the only one out of the three of us in our fantasy football league. That's still in the chat, uh, and the running for championship. We're in the playoffs.
00:05:18
Zack
Yeah, we're back.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm in, I'm in the losers championship game this week. What you talking about?
00:05:21
Zack
I don't know if i haveve this may this might be my first time in the semifinals, to be honest with you.
00:05:28
Zack
Maybe second time ever, but maybe it might be the first.
00:05:29
Mason
How long have you been playing for?
00:05:31
Zack
I don't know, many years. It doesn't matter. It all comes down to this, folks.
00:05:37
Mason
Well, the reason why I was asking is you've been playing for a really long time and I feel like this would mean a lot to you, right?
00:05:41
Zack
Mm hmm.
00:05:44
Zack
It would for sure.
00:05:44
Mason
Am I to get the, and we have a trophy in our, in our league for those that don't know, but, uh, the questions and, uh, Tinsley can answer this as well, but it was mostly for Zach just cause he's, he's never won a fantasy football before.
00:05:45
Zack
Yeah.
00:05:49
Zack
Yeah.
00:05:58
Mason
So I came up with a couple of would you rather questions. Zach, intense. Would you rather win your fantasy football league or have your regular team, like not fancy, so this is just like Titans, make the playoffs?
00:06:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jaguars make the playoffs.
00:06:16
Zack
Playoffs, for sure.
00:06:16
Mason
Yeah. ah Would you rather win your fantasy league or UT to win this weekend against Ohio State?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you too win
00:06:28
Zack
Mason, I would...
00:06:29
Mason
So he, okay.
00:06:30
Zack
I would give up a lot.
00:06:31
Mason
So would you rather win your fantasy league or give up the, or have the first pick in the NFL draft?
00:06:33
Zack
For tennis you win this weekend.
00:06:39
Zack
I don't care about that.
00:06:41
Mason
You don't care about the first pick.
00:06:42
Zack
Not this season, I just feel like there's not any
Heisman Winners Trivia
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Zack
players I care about.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'd rather have the first server I'll pick.
00:06:46
Mason
Yeah.
00:06:46
Zack
I think I'd rather win my fantasy league.
00:06:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Travis Hunter looked nice and chill.
00:06:50
Zack
He's fine. Travis Hunter mid. Some people are asking.
00:06:54
Mason
Oh, wow. I take.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What do you, oh, are you, are you, are you a reps or just aren't a stats guy?
00:06:56
Zack
I'm just, he's not mid. He's not mid. I'm just, he's not mid.
00:07:02
Zack
No, I was just kind of trolling.
00:07:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You big Ashton gente believer.
00:07:04
Zack
I know there's a lot of people who have been making that take. I think it's, I think it's fine. I think, I think he's great.
00:07:10
Mason
Does this, is does this have to do with the Heisman situation here?
00:07:13
Zack
Well, I mean a little, well, yeah, it's fine. I really don't, a lot of people are mad about it. I'm less mad than people I don't care that much. I think he had a good season.
00:07:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think if he would have went to Georgia or Florida, like I think he gets a lot of hate because he jumped on like the Dion Sanders hype train and like kind of and like went where he went and people kind of don't like what Dion did. So they in turn don't like Travis. like I think if Travis would have went to Georgia and did this at Georgia since he was a freshman, like he would be pretty hyped up as like,
00:07:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know this all-star player there by loves but he's got like a weird it's got like a weird mark next to it just because he went to go play for Colorado
00:08:02
Zack
I don't think it's the Colorado thing as much for me. I think it is.
00:08:09
Zack
I think it's I think most people's reactions are two pronged. One is the big 12 of it all in the competition level they faced. A lot of people in the same can be said for Gente, though, for sure.
00:08:21
Zack
It's like they were for sure padding stats at at points are in the season.
00:08:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:26
Zack
um Against pretty bad competition at times. ah The second prong is I think what Travis hunter does kind of feels like a party trick right now like um Something cool that's it's unique. It's different. It is ultra impressive But like what would we do if there was a kicker next year who hit like 665 yarders and went 100% like from like would we would he be the Heisman because he does something that no one else has ever done before and
00:09:02
Mason
Did I send that to you guys? We're on NCAA. This guy was trying to get a kicker to, he was over here making 70 yarders somehow, like, I don't know.
00:09:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I saw that.
00:09:08
Zack
I didn't see it.
00:09:09
Mason
And he wasn't even getting player of the, of the game. It was like the losing quarterback was getting player of the game. He's like, yeah, this is impossible, but I'm going to keep trying. So he's like.
00:09:18
Zack
I mean, I like that it's not a quarterback this year. I think that's cool. And I think that it's cool that he got it. But I feel like for a lot of people, it it feels more like you're playing against the back competition. You're doing you're playing both sides of the ball, which is ultra hyper impressive.
00:09:36
Zack
um Is it gonna translate to the NFL? I don't know. Will an NFL team let him play both ways?
00:09:39
Mason
But.
00:09:41
Zack
Probably not, I would guess. And so...
00:09:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not not at the rate that he's his his snap counts are insane.
00:09:48
Zack
No, he won't last...
00:09:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, he plays special teams, too.
00:09:50
Zack
He won't last long, yeah. He can't do that.
00:09:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I think he's a corner in the NFL with some some packages, some like maybe tops out at 30 percent of offensive snaps per game.
00:10:04
Zack
Which is still very impressive, not still off very cool. He is an elite athlete.
00:10:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think he'll do it for I think
College Football Playoffs Prospects
00:10:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he'll he'll get to do some of that. when he goes to the NFL for a few years, but eventually he will just kind of settle in just once as he's a, he's a great defender.
00:10:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, like as a corner, I've said it before, I ah think all his wide receiver stuff is very flashy and it gets him all the headlines and it's what helped get him the Heisman.
00:10:23
Zack
Yeah.
00:10:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If he just played cornerback, he would still be a top five pick. He's that good.
00:10:36
Zack
Hmm Yeah, how I really do I Like him he seems to um Like be a really good kid and I think he's gonna I don't have anything good Strava Center I think he's I really does make it a joke earlier, but through the record.
00:10:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's an elite level corner, like, match up with big guys on the outside, like he is everything you want in a cornerback.
00:10:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I know.
00:10:57
Zack
I do like him. Um It's just been funny to see people Reek out
00:11:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It is. The discourse online is funny about a kid who like who openly is like, yeah, I'm pretty boring. I just like to play video games and and play football because someone asked him ah when he was like, do you think anyone else will ever do this?
00:11:11
Zack
Yeah.
00:11:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I don't think anyone else is as boring as I am. And we'll try and play two positions full time like me because that's all I want to do. I just want to play football. like I don't have time to go party or do anything fun.
00:11:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just want to practice football all the time. So I don't know. ah He's he seems fine. I think it's funny. All the people get mad online about it. It's like who else would do you think should have won Heisman this year? Honestly.
00:11:38
Zack
i Mean I think gente would even had a bigger asterisk because you're talking about Boise State's schedule and competition.
00:11:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I did too.
00:11:44
Zack
I mean like He truly would not have done that in the SEC Agree sorry to hijack your competition Mason
00:11:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And there were some games he didn't do like he didn't go off if he. If he would have ran for 200 yards plus every game and had multiple touchdowns every game, like, all right, I get it. But he, there were games where he had like 120 something yards and a touchdown against not great competition.
00:12:08
Mason
No, you're good. My last would you rather would be Zach, would you spend 24 hours in a waffle house, uh, with your dad eating waffles, uh, in order to win the championship?
00:12:22
Zack
Do I have to eat all 24 waffles?
00:12:24
Mason
It's just the same rules apply for the loser. If anybody doesn't know we, uh, yeah, you have to tens has done it before.
00:12:27
Zack
Um, no.
00:12:31
Mason
Uh, you have to stay in a, you had to eat.
00:12:31
Zack
I would not.
00:12:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there's There's very little I would do to get a fantasy.
00:12:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I'm saying, nope, nope, because that was miserable. Here's the thing, fantasy football is fun and I'm in a lot, a lot of leagues and it's fun.
00:12:39
Mason
You had to eat the waffles because you lost you went and do that again to win a championship Wow
00:12:49
Zack
Right.
00:12:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i I don't, it doesn't, it doesn't burn me up inside like it used to.
00:12:57
Zack
Hmm, it doesn't set him set him on fire anymore.
00:12:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Gambling has taken a lot of my passion for fantasy football.
00:13:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Me and fantasy football are just kind of, you know, like we're talking.
00:13:02
Zack
He lost a spark.
00:13:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just kind of whatever.
00:13:08
Mason
It's easy for you to say because you had a down season.
00:13:10
Mason
I feel like if you were, if you were in the playoffs.
00:13:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've had a couple down seasons in a row now.
00:13:12
Zack
Hmm.
00:13:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm also in a spot where no one trades with me. Our rosters are essentially the way our league is set up by our Crip commissions. Like your team that you draft is the, is the, is the team free agency sucks. Um, there's only a few free agency pickups worth anything throughout the season. So, uh, yeah, I like dynasty football bull leagues. I'm in a few of those. I keep up with those a lot more than I do regular fantasy football at this point.
00:13:44
Zack
Mm.
00:13:46
Mason
That's the tough part about being commission. If you win, or everybody said you cheated. If you lose, you lost.
00:13:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I haven't wanted a long time.
00:13:54
Zack
There is a point this season where I really thought I was going to get last place. So I'm just happy to be here not eating wobbles.
00:13:58
Mason
And now look at you. There you go.
00:14:02
Zack
Truly.
00:14:04
Mason
Truly. Well, Zach, you were talking about Heisman a little bit and you had some trivia.
00:14:07
Zack
Mm. I do for both of you, Mason.
00:14:10
Mason
Yeah. All right. Shoo.
00:14:13
Zack
noted college football expert.
00:14:15
Mason
Yep, for sure.
00:14:17
Zack
I will say for for for a draft guy, a lot of times Heisman are going number one overall, number two overall. So you you should be fine here. um Okay, I've got a list of the Heisman trophy winners from the last 20 years.
00:14:33
Zack
2004 was the first notable one that like I remember really being locked into.
00:14:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:14:41
Zack
just for Just for reference, before before that, um 2003, Jason White, quarterback for Oklahoma.
00:14:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:14:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
undrafted.
00:14:53
Zack
Who in the world?
00:14:54
Mason
Mmm
00:14:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Pretty sure. Pretty sure.
00:14:54
Zack
Uh-uh, really?
00:14:56
Zack
He was undrafted. What in the world?
00:15:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A lot of those guys, a lot of those guys from like the late 90s, early 2000s, quarterbacks don't get drafted very high because college the college scheme was looked down on to like NFL guys.
00:15:13
Zack
Hmm.
00:15:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If you weren't Peyton Manning's build of six foot five plus and you know like 240 pounds pocket passer, they didn't want you.
00:15:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
These out quarterbacks with some mobility were like looked at, like Like whole, like witches.
00:15:25
Zack
Interesting.
00:15:36
Zack
Okay. Witches.
00:15:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. They had to be hunted.
00:15:40
Zack
Um, so two thousand and four to twenty twenty four we're Uh, we're going to take turns and we're going to name Heisman until somebody can't name one.
00:15:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh.
00:15:51
Zack
I will tell you, there's a lot of Alabama on this list.
00:15:53
Zack
There's a lot of just trying to get your brains, brains rolling. So Alabama, there's a lot of USC. There's some LSU. There's some, um, Oklahoma's, Florida's, Ohio state's just, uh,
00:16:01
Mason
Yeah.
00:16:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
your big big-time programs
00:16:09
Zack
just going to turn in.
00:16:11
Mason
Okay.
00:16:12
Zack
Okay. Uh, tensies. No, it's amazing. Go masono first, Mason.
00:16:16
Mason
So you said 2004 Matt liner.
00:16:19
Zack
Yep. But you can just pick any, anything and you can pick any of them.
00:16:21
Mason
Oh, okay. I was like, if we're going to an order, I'm in trouble, but Matt liner line it.
00:16:24
Zack
Oh, you can start there. That was right. Correct. Matt Leinert. USC.
00:16:29
Mason
Yep.
00:16:29
Zack
2004. Tens.
00:16:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Reggie Bush.
00:16:31
Mason
lefty
00:16:32
Zack
Reggie Bush. Mm. He had it. He got taken away.
00:16:36
Mason
Lefty?
00:16:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, he still had it. He always had it.
00:16:36
Zack
Got it back.
00:16:39
Zack
Reggie Bush, the CSM five. That's correct. Mason.
00:16:45
Mason
um Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think I can.
00:16:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Come on, Masons. Come on, dude. 2006. Let's stay in order.
00:16:48
Zack
Oh, okay.
00:16:50
Mason
Do I know 2006?
00:16:51
Zack
If we stay in order, I'll, I don't mind to give colleges. I'll give colleges. Okay.
00:16:57
Mason
Do you think you could, I don't think I could stay in order, I'm gonna be honest.
00:16:57
Zack
Oh, six Ohio state.
00:17:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
choice myth.
00:17:02
Zack
Correct.
00:17:03
Mason
Oh, that was my turn.
00:17:04
Zack
Mason, Florida.
00:17:08
Mason
Florida.
00:17:12
Mason
I don't remember it.
00:17:12
Zack
Mason.
00:17:14
Mason
Yeah.
00:17:14
Zack
Mason.
00:17:15
Mason
Hold on.
00:17:15
Zack
2007. He had a celebration named after him.
00:17:19
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You will not find a football team.
00:17:22
Zack
We repeated some of his halftime speeches on this very podcast.
00:17:29
Zack
Mason, what an intarnation.
00:17:32
Mason
Is it running back?
00:17:33
Zack
Okay. It's Tim Tebow, Mason.
00:17:34
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tim Timothy Tebow.
00:17:35
Mason
Oh, Tim Tebow.
00:17:36
Zack
Oh my gosh.
00:17:37
Mason
I thought that was, I thought that was later.
00:17:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This guy.
00:17:40
Zack
Okay.
00:17:40
Mason
You're right.
00:17:41
Zack
Tins.
00:17:42
Mason
I can't do an order.
00:17:42
Zack
Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma 2008.
00:17:44
Zack
Yep.
00:17:49
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Sam Bradford.
00:17:50
Zack
And Bradford, very good.
00:17:52
Mason
Dang. i'm I'm so in trouble.
00:17:55
Zack
2009, Alabama, Mason.
00:18:00
Zack
Running back.
00:18:02
Mason
Mark Ingram.
00:18:03
Zack
Mark Ingram, correct.
00:18:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:18:06
Zack
2010.
00:18:08
Zack
Do you have an idea? If I gave you the score, it's gonna be obvious.
00:18:16
Mason
Do it.
00:18:16
Zack
Auburn.
00:18:18
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Oh, yeah, Cam.
00:18:19
Mason
Cam Newton.
00:18:19
Zack
Cam. 2011 Baylor Mason.
00:18:24
Mason
RG3.
00:18:25
Zack
RG three. 10s. A and&M.
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Johnny football.
00:18:33
Zack
Johnny football.
00:18:38
Zack
Mason, Florida State.
00:18:42
Mason
Uh, our, no, wait, hold on.
00:18:42
Zack
2013.
00:18:44
Mason
Our boy, Jamis Winston.
00:18:45
Zack
James Winston 2013 shut out um ah Tins Mary Goda What a guy ah Mason Alabama 2015 correct
00:18:49
Mason
Hey.
00:18:49
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oh my
00:18:58
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ah Marcus Mariota.
00:19:00
Mason
and That's right.
00:19:02
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The Flying Pineapple.
00:19:09
Mason
It's Derek Henry.
00:19:13
Zack
Boy, I didn't realize the Titans got those guys back to back.
00:19:16
Mason
Yep. Still can't do anything with it.
00:19:18
Zack
What a waste. ah
00:19:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You guys you guys once made some playoff runs you've read you won the division multiple years in a row you Titans fans like You guys you guys went like we're the worst team in the league for four straight years and then Quick turnaround and no credit is given to Marcus, Marietta
00:19:19
Mason
What a waste.
00:19:24
Zack
You're right. You're right. You're right.
00:19:26
Mason
Didn't do enough.
00:19:27
Zack
You're right.
00:19:31
Zack
You're great.
00:19:36
Mason
I would rather have Kerry Collins right now than will love us.
00:19:37
Zack
Just got out.
00:19:38
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No, you.
00:19:41
Zack
Then Will Levis, that's fine.
00:19:42
Mason
Yes.
00:19:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I went to some football games where Kerry Collins was yours quarterback.
00:19:43
Mason
Okay, go ahead.
00:19:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You need to take that back.
00:19:49
Mason
Okay. Go ahead. Keep going.
00:19:50
Zack
Okay, Tins. Louisville 2016.
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Mark Jackson.
00:19:56
Zack
Lamar Jackson, Mason, Oklahoma, 2017.
00:20:01
Mason
Baker Mayfield.
00:20:02
Zack
Baker, Tins, Oklahoma, 2018.
00:20:03
Mason
Yep.
00:20:05
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Tyler Murray.
00:20:07
Zack
Kyler Murray.
00:20:07
Mason
Back to back. I forgot about the back to back Oklahoma there.
00:20:11
Zack
Mason, LSU, 2019.
00:20:16
Mason
Oh my. Why am I going blank?
00:20:18
Zack
This guy.
00:20:19
Mason
I want to say Jayden Daniels, but that's not it.
00:20:21
Zack
That's not it.
00:20:23
Mason
Because he was last year. ah
00:20:27
Mason
What's wrong? I just went to blank on Tim Tebow and this one.
00:20:31
Zack
Quarterback.
00:20:34
Mason
Oh, Joe Burrow.
00:20:34
Zack
Joe Burrow, very good. It's the one that my trip trips people up. 2020, Alabama.
00:20:42
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Uh, Jalen Smith or Devante Smith.
00:20:44
Zack
Devonte Smith, yeah ah dwy smith um yes.
00:20:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Guy's name wrong.
00:20:47
Mason
Yeah. Wide receiver. Is that the first wide receiver we've listed? Wow.
00:20:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:20:55
Zack
is. um Mason, Alabama, 2021.
00:21:03
Mason
Why am I going so blank all of a sudden? Uh, everybody's yelling in their, uh, gel and hearts.
00:21:09
Zack
Quarterback. I hope so.
00:21:18
Mason
No. Did I just say Jalen hurts? Uh, I give up.
00:21:26
Zack
Bryce Young. It's a little tricky because that was like his junior year.
00:21:29
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The future, the future of Russia.
00:21:31
Zack
Or his sophomore year. That was his sophomore year. Because he played in 2022, but he won in 2021.
00:21:37
Mason
Yeah. Okay.
00:21:39
Zack
10s, 2022.
00:21:43
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Um, 22.
00:21:48
Zack
This is also kind of weird. It's another one that didn't, he didn't go to the NFL. USC.
00:21:56
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Oh yeah. Caleb.
00:21:57
Zack
Caleb Williams won that year.
00:21:58
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yeah come Yeah, he won it and then he played, yeah, a whole nother season.
00:22:02
Zack
And then Jayden Daniels, 2023, and then we just had Travis Hunter, 2024.
00:22:07
Mason
Mm.
00:22:09
Zack
First cornerback since the greatest robbery in Heisman history, Charles Woodson, in 1997.
00:22:15
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Charles Woodson. See, he won it for playing some downs on offense and being a punt returner as well, but he,
00:22:21
Zack
See, I think that's why I'm bitter as well. See, I think that's part of it.
00:22:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He did, he did a fraction of what Travis Hunter is doing offensively.
00:22:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, I get it.
00:22:31
Zack
They just didn't want to give it to Peyton.
00:22:34
Zack
Cowards.
00:22:34
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Cowards. NCAA has always hated Tennessee.
00:22:37
Zack
It's a fact. It's a fact.
00:22:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's all right. We don't need them.
00:22:41
Zack
Don't need them.
00:22:41
Mason
Even the video game, even the video game hated us.
00:22:43
Zack
We're about to fill up Ohio Stadium.
00:22:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's true. The video game gave us no love this summer and look at us now.
00:22:48
Zack
Sure. Look at us now.
00:22:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That home field advantage isn't going to be much ah this Saturday, because ah from what I hear, it falls north.
00:22:58
Zack
Boys, um...
00:22:59
Mason
Neland North.
00:23:00
Zack
me
00:23:00
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Yep.
00:23:01
Zack
I would love to go.
00:23:01
Mason
Zach, go.
00:23:02
Zack
I would love to go. I cannot go, but I would love to go. It's gonna be very cold.
00:23:07
Mason
He literally said the last pod we were recording, he was like,
00:23:10
Zack
I would stand by it. um Tickets are like reasonable.
00:23:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, I heard him.
00:23:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
if If my wife hadn't had surgery Monday morning, ah you know I think I would be trying to go as well.
00:23:16
Mason
They're cheaper than.
00:23:23
Mason
They're cheaper than like almost every regular season, except for maybe like two last season. And that's like, it's insane.
00:23:28
Zack
Cheaper than Vandy tickets.
00:23:30
Mason
I was looking on the game time this morning. It was a one 91 for a lower level.
00:23:36
Zack
Tessie fans are gonna be buying those things.
00:23:38
Mason
And then I looked at next, I would looked at next season.
00:23:39
Zack
I'm just gonna tell you guys a Lot of haters in the media be like oh it's overreaction and there's no way they're gonna do I'm just telling everybody out there don't be shocked and that stadium is Got a lot of orange in it
00:23:42
Mason
Sorry, go ahead.
00:23:55
Mason
It would be cheaper for them to go lower level, get a hotel, drive to this game than it would have been for them to get nosebleeds at a Georgia Tennessee game.
00:24:05
Mason
A hundred percent.
00:24:05
Zack
I mean, for definitely.
00:24:06
Mason
I did the math.
00:24:07
Zack
Yeah. Oh, for sure.
00:24:08
Mason
Yeah.
00:24:10
Zack
It's wild. Yeah.
00:24:14
Mason
And I don't know, da you kind of explained it, but is it just the college, the area, the kind like what SEC and Tennessee just pay way more for tickets? Is that what happens?
00:24:24
Zack
the average tickets to Tennessee have been more expensive than pretty much anywhere in the country. It's, I think that I true. It truly seems like Ohio State fans are like. not super excited about sitting in 20 degree weather for an entire game.
00:24:38
Mason
Tennessee fans do.
00:24:38
Zack
And we're looking ahead to the California trip next week all right for in the new year. And just I think Tennessee fans are willing to sit in this in the cold for this game.
00:24:51
Zack
um It could be ah an interesting sight. I'm very excited for it.
00:24:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Do Ohio State fans even wanna win this game?
00:24:59
Zack
I've heard some of them don't I truly have heard from like some actual house a fans that If they lose there's a chance around days out But no one they don't want to know what's gonna happen if right if Ryan day leaves can you mention the transfer portal situation?
00:25:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, truly.
00:25:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah but But he's not doing anything.
00:25:15
Zack
You don't yes they would all be gone I
00:25:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I'd get that, but he's not doing anything with the team now. If you're the head coach of Ohio State, you get Five stars regardless like that's that's just a given you're gonna get the five stars one way or the other He is not he's not he's not developing these guys.
00:25:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not I Think he just sucks I think he he was he did good his first couple years because Urban Meyer had built a really good program and then faked heart attack or whatever it was this time ah To get out of some some NCAA punishments.
00:25:40
Zack
He might. Hope so.
00:25:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The guy's a coward and a crook and a criminal um But I don't know. Yeah, I don't I don't I think you're walking into a situation where this team's kind of just like I Don't know like giving up already because of what happened with the Michigan game and they're just kind of defeated Yeah
00:26:12
Zack
You know, I have two thoughts. One is they're already defeated and they're just kind of going to sleepwalk through this game. The second one is they come in really angry about the Michigan game and wanting to prove to the world that they're not frauds or whatever. I don't know which which one this is going to show up. I think regardless, if you punch them in the face a couple of times, the defeated one good could come out. I think there is an opportunity where All the people I know that follow Tennessee football. So the Tennessee team looks pretty locked in and has had some really good days of practice. I mean, a lot of the freshmen are already on campus, like the early enrollees and stuff. And so they're they're with a team and I've heard it's like been a really good practice environment and it kind of feels like business as usual. So I think Tennessee's locked in. They've been looking forward to this all year. I think, I don't know. It just depends on what what Ohio State team walks down the field.
00:27:10
Zack
If they walk out and it's 50% orange and in the, in the way team is a little bit louder than the home, the home cheers and, um, the fans, they cut three and out and the
Game Analysis and Predictions
00:27:21
Zack
fans start booing a little bit.
00:27:22
Zack
What's going to happen to the psyche? I don't know.
00:27:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:25
Zack
There, I think there's a reality where that turns sideways pretty fast.
00:27:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, and I've heard too, it's not going to be like just a regular home game environment as far as like what it's like a neutral field.
00:27:33
Zack
Yeah.
00:27:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So both teams get their intro.
00:27:35
Zack
yeah
00:27:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They both get their hype up music and stuff. So yeah, it's like a neutral DJ.
00:27:41
Zack
The music I think is me controlled by the cultural i playoff instead of the home. I think both bands will be there.
00:27:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:47
Zack
Um, so it is tradition.
00:27:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like that stuff's important in college football.
00:27:52
Zack
I mean, I think it does. If it feels like a lot of the media is not giving Tennessee very much of a shot, but it does feel like the ingredients are there for potential, uh, shock the world moment.
00:28:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This line's moved, right? Didn't it open at nine?
00:28:09
Zack
Mmm, no, it opened right about seven and a half.
00:28:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:28:11
Zack
It stayed pretty can Maybe it opened up eight and a half, but it moved pretty fast to seven and a half Yeah, it's gonna be pretty interesting Dewey, um, do I do some bull talk to only some
00:28:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay, it stayed there. I thought it was a little bit higher.
00:28:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's at seven right now, I was looking earlier.
00:28:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm down do a little bull talk here. I means I haven't talked about it. I know last year we did pretty much we did almost every bowl game. I don't think we're going to do that this year just because well, they've already started some of them started but There are so many opt-outs and with the college playoff being like the focal point, I think we're really going to be focusing on that.
00:28:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I do have some picks ah that ends a couple of bowl games.
00:28:57
Zack
Yeah.
00:29:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just quickly, I wanted to talk about and then obviously make sure you're in the discord for all of um our picks.
00:29:06
Zack
I like that parlay.
00:29:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i'll have I think I'm going to have a pick for every playoff game. I think that's my it going to be something I do. so I'll have some parlays.
00:29:17
Zack
All of them.
00:29:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. DraftKings has a promo right now that you have to do a parlay for the first weekend of games for 10 bucks and they'll pick a hundred lucky winners to get a hundred dollar free bet.
00:29:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I did that.
00:29:30
Zack
Wow.
00:29:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If you want to see that parlay, you're going to have to join the discord. Sorry. Rules are rules. Our corporate sponsors are saying we got to get the discord numbers up.
00:29:40
Zack
It's true.
00:29:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So, yeah, yeah, UPS is sponsoring our gambling discord.
00:29:44
Zack
UPS.
00:29:49
Zack
Just kidding.
00:29:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Just joking, UPS.
00:29:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just joking. It's all jokes, parody law. um Just like when I said I was gonna kill somebody, if Doug Peterson and Trimbleky weren't fired.
00:29:54
Zack
It's a joke.
00:30:04
Zack
Don't remember that.
00:30:04
Mason
you did say that
00:30:05
Zack
um remember that
00:30:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a growing concern of my everyday life. Doug Peterson today was talking about Trevor's shoulder shoulder surgery and he's talking about the spring OTAs like Trevor should be back for them.
00:30:12
Zack
Don't remember that.
00:30:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was like, why are you talking about OTAs? You're not going to be here for those, Doug.
00:30:22
Zack
What if he is, though? Oh, gosh.
00:30:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach, so help me if if if Doug is here but our GM gets fired, I can live with that.
00:30:27
Mason
You did say that.
00:30:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If they're both still here, death. If Doug is
00:30:35
Zack
How could Doug give his job with the season that they've had? It doesn't feel possible.
00:30:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause our, cause our owner is a, is a joke. He's a, the only good thing I can say about him is he's, he did this stadium deal. The Jags are in Jacksonville for the next 30 years. I don't have to worry about that. So I'm an old man.
00:30:52
Zack
Not in England, London.
00:30:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I don't, I don't have to deal with those jokes anymore. Um, but other than that, he has been the bane of my existence for. the past 12 years he's owned the team.
00:31:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I guess an owner, I think his record's like 48 and 136.
00:31:08
Zack
That feels pretty bad.
00:31:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just pretty bad.
00:31:15
Zack
It's not great.
00:31:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think we've only had like three winning seasons.
00:31:19
Zack
Hmm, not good.
00:31:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's not ideal. So, yeah, I know. Like I said, if Doug's here, but the GM has to go, I can live with Doug if the GM's gone.
00:31:27
Zack
Big Doug.
00:31:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If they're both gone, great.
00:31:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If they're both staying, death, someone dies.
00:31:38
Zack
he's he's back maybe he doesn't say who he just said someone there's some someone's probably going yeah mason get over it i
00:31:38
Mason
But not really.
00:31:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Someone. And I'm not saying by me, I'm just saying death. Death happens. Yeah, death happens every day.
00:31:57
Mason
I didn't even say anything.
00:31:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, we saw you over there.
00:32:01
Zack
was anticipating it
00:32:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You were stressing out about bowl games, a couple of bowl games I like.
00:32:04
Mason
So where were we?
00:32:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Speaking of Florida, we'll stay in this and the sunny sunny state for the Florida Gators versus Tulane.
00:32:13
Zack
Oh, transition.
00:32:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So right now, what I've been looking for is teams that finish the season strong.
00:32:22
Zack
Mm hmm.
00:32:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that are going to and this is the same thing I did last year, two teams that want to use this bowl game as extra practice, get, you know, kind of build towards having a good spring and and jump into the new season. ah I think Florida is is that team to a t team that once they made the quarterback switch, you know, the questions of is Billy getting fired, went away. They started playing a lot better, had a couple upsets, ruined Ole Miss this season. What a shame.
00:32:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So they come into this game as a 12-point favorite against Tulane.
00:32:53
Zack
um
00:32:56
Zack
Bummer.
00:32:58
Zack
Sheesh.
00:33:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out Tulane.
00:33:01
Zack
Mhm.
00:33:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They just hired a guy from Cookville, Tennessee to be their new head coach, right? Was it Tulane or was that Tulsa?
00:33:08
Zack
No, it was a much smaller school than Tulane.
00:33:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Are you sure? He came from ETSU.
00:33:12
Zack
Pretty sure.
00:33:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think it it's Tulane or Tulsa.
00:33:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's one of these T names. While he's doing that, either way, I think Florida is going to flex their muscles a little bit here.
00:33:18
Zack
Well, let me look it up.
00:33:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah, try a limb.
00:33:27
Zack
It's Trey Lamb, right?
00:33:29
Zack
Yeah, that's Tulsa.
00:33:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tulsa, there that's still pretty, it's a pretty big program.
00:33:32
Zack
Elaine's a pretty big program.
00:33:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, so that was a side track that was unnecessary, but I think Florida is gonna come in, flex their muscles here a little bit, um kind of show that they're a good place to come as far as the transfer portal goes.
00:33:40
Zack
Okay.
00:33:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think DJ Lagway is going to absolutely light up this Tulane team who, I don't know anything about Tulane, but minus 12,
00:33:53
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:33:58
Zack
they lost yeah they lost to oklahoma uh... when oklahoma was still very bad thirty five to nineteen uh...
00:34:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Still bad. Yeah.
00:34:08
Zack
i think elban or i think florida probably runs about the building two lanes had a good season i know they were tossed around as that g five candidate for a while uh...
00:34:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
For them.
00:34:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:34:18
Zack
but they're a g five team i mean i just know yeah this florida team right now is playing
00:34:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They gave all miss all they could handle.
00:34:26
Zack
Like florida Florida and South Carolina between the two of them are playing as hot as anybody. And I wouldn't want to run into either of those teams who are going to be playing a lot of guys in this bowl game.
00:34:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:34:35
Zack
Not a lot of guys in the transfer portal. um they had ah They ended with a lot of momentum. um Especially if Florida's, I mean, lagway is going to play, I would think, right?
00:34:47
Zack
There's not been any talk of him sitting.
00:34:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah, no, there's, yeah.
00:34:51
Zack
So I think that could be big. I mean, I think
00:34:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think they really are using this as, cause you get an extra month of practice time.
00:34:58
Zack
Right.
00:34:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's that's awesome for building stuff towards the spring program and and doing all that. um So yeah, i think I think Florida is going to use that and really, I think they're going to run it up on them, honestly.
00:35:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um And that and you brought up South Carolina that was the second team I was gonna talk about they fit the mold to of the quarterbacks coming back a team that finished the season hot um It doesn't seem like they're gonna lose They're big time players in in the NIA or in the transfer portal. There were some rumors of a couple guys, but I think for the most part they're going to be sticking around. Sellers kind of figured out how to play quarterback as far as the college quarterback goes. So proud of him. And I think this is just an Illinois team that.
00:35:43
Zack
Defensive line stood out as being very good for South Carolina.
00:35:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yes, I think South Carolina's defensive line kind of controls this game. Like I just don't think that Illinois has the guys to block. South Carolina and South Carolina's got just enough on offense with sellers that there they should be able to cover this I mean minus nine and a half I would like for that to go down a little bit, but I'm comfortable taking it at nine and a half um So that that's another team that I love this Bowl season and then my last one was Texas A Texas A&M who is playing USC
00:36:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
USC made a QB switch towards the end of the season to a true freshman. um Lincoln Riley I think is going to. um I think he's going to leave USC to be honest with you.
00:36:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think, I think it's been bad. Uh, he, he had the bench Miller Moss, who's kind of like the guy in waiting for a few years. He and entered the transfer portal. They just had a very bad season. I think Lincoln Riley's going to just kind of wash his hands of college football and go be a play caller for the bears. Um, next fall with his boy, Caleb Williams, reunite with him or something, or maybe go down to the Tampa and be the play caller there. Cause their offensive coordinator is going to be leaving for a head coaching job up North.
00:36:42
Zack
They're pretty bad.
00:37:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
somewhere ah north of Tampa, Florida, anywhere, because he's not going to go to Miami as the new head coach, because they're not going to fire there. So ah Liam, Colin, Colton, or how he says, I don't know, comes from the McVey tree. He's going to be leaving Tampa. And I think Lincoln Riley could go re reunite with Baker. um So I think USC is just kind of they're not a team I like taking in ballgames because I think there are guys just don't care.
00:37:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like they've I think they kind of gave up on the season already Texas A and&M their head coach seems like the kind of guy who's gonna this matters to him. Let's let's have a good first season and Finish strong against a big-name program like USC.
00:37:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So Texas A and&M minus three and a half that feels low I don't know where the game is, but I would take them all the way up to six and a half. Honestly Anything under a touchdown is free money to me
00:38:06
Zack
Wow.
00:38:10
Zack
I know that Wegman is in the portal. I'm not exactly sure who else is for A&M, but I think Wegman already committed, actually, to a much smaller school.
00:38:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Did he?
00:38:23
Zack
I'm trying to remember which one it was.
00:38:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's some talk about him getting drafted. ah All the guys that were going like it's crazy how fast this quarterback class like there were so many getting talked about and then now all of a sudden it's like it should or Sanders and Cam Ward and other than that don't draft him.
00:38:41
Zack
Connor Wegman to Houston.
00:38:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, OK. Hmm.
00:38:48
Zack
So Marcel Reed beginning the start there.
00:38:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Marcel which Yeah, and I think he'll just kind of I don't know. I think they'll do a lot of the ah Read option stuff.
00:38:58
Zack
It's gonna be a weird game. It's gonna be a weird one. Yeah.
00:39:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's it's a weird matchup that USC just like I said, I just don't think they're they're gonna have the guys who care I think they're gonna get hit pretty hard in the transfer portal a lot of these guys are just gonna be like glass whatever like this this game means nothing to us and
00:39:11
Zack
Yeah couple matchups I sorry How do you feel about the Georgia Tech Vanderbilt matchup
00:39:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but Mike Elko is gonna want his boys. I was gonna say, I think Mike Elko is gonna have the boys like fired up. like let's Let's go win this thing. Let's go win this mail bowl or whatever game it is. I don't even know what game it is.
00:39:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, and I thought we were gonna talk about this one. I think this one could be one of the funnest
00:39:45
Zack
Same.
00:39:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
bowl games to watch that's not a college playoff matchup. You got two guys that have been playing college football for a long time in Pavia and rogers Will Rogers for Washington.
00:39:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah two I don't know, two teams that just never in a million years can I even think of when they've played or why they've played each other. um So yeah, I think it'll be fun.
00:40:08
Zack
Where did you say Washington?
00:40:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think it'll be like Washington, right?
00:40:13
Zack
Georgia Tech Vanderbilt.
00:40:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Georgia Tech, sorry. Yeah, so that's ah King, which is that his last name's King.
00:40:19
Zack
Hmm.
00:40:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Two guys I like to run. I don't know where I had washed, I guess I was looking at something.
00:40:25
Zack
Washington's playing Louisville, which also is going to be a fun game.
00:40:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay, I think that's the one we were texting about.
00:40:29
Zack
Who was? Yeah.
00:40:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah, so no, this Vandy Georgia Tech game, that'll be a fun one as well though, just because it's too two teams that had some big upsets this year. ah Georgia Tech ended Florida State's whole program.
00:40:44
Zack
I didn't know it yet, but they did. Yeah.
00:40:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But they did, they were, they somehow ruined their whole season from the jump over in Ireland.
00:40:52
Zack
And Ireland.
00:40:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that'd
00:40:55
Zack
What a weird thing to look back on. Yeah. And that'd be a fun game. Something.
00:40:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
be a fun game of two programs that are like kind of always been the, the punching bags of their conferences.
00:41:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they yeah, but they're both kind of turning it around Diego Pavia.
00:41:04
Zack
Really smart teams.
00:41:09
Zack
Yeah. Both i've had your really good seasons.
00:41:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
One is court case against the NCAA is to come back next season.
00:41:16
Zack
Yeah. Shout out. I guess I'm a bummer, but.
00:41:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
NCAA can can take an L after all. They are not undefeated.
00:41:23
Zack
They've taken a lot of the belts this season.
00:41:27
Mason
Did you answer this earlier? Is he going to transfer or play another year with Bandy?
00:41:30
Zack
It seems like he's locked into Vanderbilt, which means they must be paying him a bag.
00:41:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:34
Zack
I mean, he's been worth enough just to take it sales. Him being there and being a good football player has made a big difference.
00:41:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, because he could ah he could have went somewhere.
00:41:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, he's a good he's a good quarterback. He's a good college quarterback.
00:41:45
Zack
Yes, for sure.
00:41:50
Zack
Definitely. Yeah.
00:41:55
Zack
Okay, any other the games you want to mention here?
00:41:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:41:58
Zack
Bama Michigan?
00:42:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope, that's going to be just disgusting.
00:42:02
Zack
What a gross.
00:42:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Texas Tech, Arkansas, if you if you want to watch a game that's like going to end up being 60 to 67, like that's a game for you. that That game should be high scoring.
00:42:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Texas Tech does not play any kind of defense. ah Oklahoma and Navy will be the ugliest football game.
00:42:20
Zack
They will be disgusting. so Oklahoma's defense is awesome.
00:42:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out.
00:42:26
Zack
Like it's going to be offensively just a horrible game.
00:42:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sure.
00:42:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh, shout out to you. If you watch that on purpose, even, even as a gambler, I don't even know that I'm going to turn that game on or bet on it.
00:42:39
Zack
What's like the over under on the game? 43 and a half.
00:42:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're 43 and a half. Yeah. Give me the under and give me Oklahoma minus five.
00:42:44
Zack
I'm taking the under on that for sure.
00:42:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably feels, feels pretty good. I'll bet it. Not going to watch it though. Uh, Missouri getting into a bowl game. That's just gross.
00:42:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Missouri doesn't deserve it.
00:42:57
Zack
I don't like that.
00:43:00
Zack
But they're probably still gonna be in Iowa by a lot.
00:43:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably Yeah, that's my who cares bowl Brian Kelly Brian Kelly like what you lost you lost your number of crew like all his If they lose that game LSU fans are just gonna be at his hat like they're gonna put for sale signs in his yard But yeah
00:43:05
Zack
Baylor LSU at one point spread.
00:43:11
Zack
It's a weird one. They're found in. Yeah, they're cooked a little bit.
00:43:31
Zack
Yeah, they're, they're in a tough spot for sure.
00:43:36
Zack
Okay. Is it time?
00:43:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, let's get into some some playoffs talk here.
00:43:43
Zack
All right, folks.
00:43:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some interesting first round games.
00:43:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've been trying to get a read on them. There's just it's been tough, so but I want to I want to hear where you're at.
00:43:48
Zack
Very ancient interesting.
00:43:56
Zack
Okay.
00:43:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because I know you're out on the least one of them. I think the UT spread is, is that they accidentally put a plus. They meant to do a ah minus and then they accidentally put the other line through it. And so now they're just, they're screwed.
00:44:13
Zack
Yeah, let's let's start on the first game of the of the weekend All of these points spreads are over seven so Vegas obvious it has just thinks that the home home teams are going to sweep here um And they're giving them so We'll start with Indiana at Notre Dame Indiana team that has been discussed ad nauseam this season
00:44:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:43
Zack
ah They they played one they played one game against Ohio State got beat pretty bad Notre Dame This Notre Dame narrative is really interesting because they have looked very good since the NIU loss the problem is that They just haven't had a ton of opportunities to prove themselves. They they had Florida State on their schedule. Florida State ended up being bad. They had USC on their schedule. USC ended up being pretty bad as well. And so since the and NIU, they just haven't played a lot of quality competition. And so in my mind, Notre Dame is a little bit of a question mark. I think Notre Dame, people have just seen them consistently look good since
00:45:27
Zack
ah Early season and they're just assuming they're getting better as a team. I'm not quite sure that's true um In the same way that we saw Indiana smoking people and it was like oh, yeah great Is it actually true or is the competition just really not?
00:45:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:45:42
Zack
great hard to tell um This might be the fraud Bowl We will see which team actually is the fraud this
00:45:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:56
Zack
This could end up as a very competitive game, to be honest with you. I can see this being a competitive game because I'm like I said, I'm not sure Notre Dame is actually that good.
00:46:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree.
00:46:05
Zack
I'm not sure Indiana is very good either. I think they're both. There's a reality where this could be a very fun, very evenly matched game at Notre Dame.
00:46:17
Zack
What do you think? I don't know.
00:46:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i'm so indiana i bought i I bought in this Indiana team early because they started covering spreads every week. so I obviously, as a gambler, was like, okay, I love Indiana. I'm going to keep betting them, and they kept winning.
00:46:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um but i don't think I agree. i agree i think notre dame It hasn't played anybody all year. It's easy to look good when you're playing Florida a State who's bad, USC who's bad. You lost to Northern Illinois, a Mac school who's bad.
00:46:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Texas A&M, who was an okay, yeah, that team, that Texas A&M team like is completely different today than they were first game of the season.
00:46:52
Zack
marquee win was Texas A&M week one.
00:47:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So that makes me, I want to go look at the trends. I want to see where the public money is going and things like that for who I think is going to win this game. Because I think Notre Dame has an elite defense, a good ground game. I don't trust their quarterback. And I like their head coach. I think Indiana has the advantage at quarterback very clearly, I think that. I think they're probably a little better at skill position wise at receiver. But I think Indiana's defense is not great.
00:47:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So I think I'm actually going to go with Notre Dame. I think Notre Dame is going to play a style of football that's kind of like what Ohio State did against Indiana, where they just run the ball and kind of just bully him a little bit. And I don't think Indiana's got the guys to get past that.
00:47:55
Zack
Okay, why don't we both, let's both take um one side of the spread.
00:47:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
OK. So i'll I'll take Notre Dame minus was seven and a half.
00:48:04
Zack
Okay, I'm gonna take Indiana plus seven and a half.
00:48:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:07
Zack
think its I think it's a close one.
00:48:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I, I agree.
00:48:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just, how much is of the money line?
00:48:11
Zack
73% of money is on Notre Dame money line.
00:48:16
Zack
73 percent, but 57 percent is on Indiana plus seven and a half.
00:48:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:23
Zack
So the public thinks Notre Dame wins, but Indiana covers.
00:48:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Covers. Yep.
00:48:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just, yeah, I just think Notre Dame's defense will be the the deciding factor in that.
00:48:36
Zack
OK.
00:48:40
Zack
Next up.
00:48:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is a weird game.
00:48:42
Zack
SMU at Penn State.
00:48:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Such a weird game.
00:48:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
least I wonder if these two have ever played each other in the history of their programs.
00:48:50
Zack
Probably not. I mean, they're like across the country. We're talking about Pennsylvania and Texas.
00:48:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Texas, yeah.
00:48:57
Zack
There's just no way they've ever played. I mean, it's SMUs for sheer and the power five, power four.
00:49:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sure.
00:49:06
Zack
We're looking at a plus eight or an eight and a half point spread for Penn State.
00:49:13
Zack
um A Penn State team now that is noticeably without the backup quarterback. We mentioned it earlier. If something happens to Drew Hour, what in the world happens to this team?
00:49:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's weird where he's, he's entering the transfer portal and he's actually going to lose because there are a few players that are like staying with their team through the playoffs and the bowl games and then transferring. Um, but the Penn state quarterback, the backup is not, and he, he plays, I mean, he doesn't play a ton, but he does have some packages where they'll bring them in for some read option stuff. And he's, he's a very like, like a athletic quarterback. So they, they have some packages for him. So I think.
00:49:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's kind of a tough loss for us or for Penn State. um i think I think you will see an effect of that after this game.
00:50:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
because i think they I think they can handle SMU. smu SMU, they played kind of a soft ACC schedule this year.
00:50:15
Zack
Yeah.
00:50:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And and yes, they went 11-1.
00:50:17
Zack
Austin Clemson.
00:50:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They lost to Clemson by three. But this is a team that really depended a lot on turnovers. like They had to force a lot of turnovers and and they play a weird style of offense that I don't love. I guess a Penn State team that's at they have athletes, they play good defense. um And I don't know, I've I've I've been on this Penn State team a couple times this year and kind of believed in them when I know I kind of shouldn't have. And maybe that's what happens to me again here. But i I really do think Penn State can go on. I think they got a reward for finishing second in the Big 10 somehow some way. um I like their draw.
00:50:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So I do, I like them to cover against SMU. I just, I think SMU is a nice story. I think Penn State wins by like 10 plus.
00:51:06
Zack
Yeah, I think I'm gonna take Penn State minus eight and a half as well, I just think that um um Before the Big Ten championship game I think I would have said something different here Penn State looked pretty good against Oregon better than I thought they were gonna look and They were competitive.
00:51:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:51:25
Zack
They were playing hard. um They matched up. I mean, they looked more like a complete team than they have all season, I think. And I think SMU is a good team, a fun story.
00:51:36
Zack
I would like to see SMU win this game. I think SMU would be a fun story to follow. But I think Penn State wins pretty big.
00:51:46
Zack
Yep.
00:51:48
Zack
82% of bets on Penn State Moneyline.
00:51:53
Zack
52 on Penn State mine is eight and a half. It's pretty tight Could
00:51:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Public's right sometimes.
00:52:01
Zack
be Okay next Really
00:52:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This has got to be the worst. I think this is the game I care about the least of the whole first round.
00:52:14
Zack
it's kind of a gross matchup Yeah Clemson at Texas
00:52:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm. Two programs I don't like.
00:52:25
Zack
This would be such a Clemson thing for them to come and win this game.
00:52:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:52:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Go nine and three.
00:52:32
Zack
I just don't want it to happen.
00:52:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Somehow find a way.
00:52:33
Zack
Just out of spite, I don't want Tabbo to win this game.
00:52:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But but isn't it such a Texas thing to to also lose.
00:52:40
Zack
That would be a Texas thing.
00:52:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
In the first round.
00:52:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It.
00:52:45
Mason
There's gotta to be upset somewhere.
00:52:47
Mason
Have we given one yet so far?
00:52:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, we've both not said like.
00:52:52
Zack
And they're all seven plus point favorites.
00:52:54
Mason
It's all been fair. Yeah.
00:52:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, we gave one. We all know where we're.
00:52:57
Mason
There's gotta be one, right? I would think so.
00:52:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, sure well, yeah, I'd also think one up in Columbus, Ohio.
00:53:00
Zack
I would also think so. ma Maybe that's when we look at all of these, there might be one happening.
00:53:10
Zack
Yeah, this so it's a 12 point spread.
00:53:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's crazy to me.
00:53:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think Texas is a 12 point. I don't think they're 12 points better than anyone in this playoff other than maybe Indiana and SMU.
00:53:13
Zack
It's pretty high.
00:53:25
Zack
The question, ah man. I mean, the question is gonna be like, will that Texas defense just completely shut Clemson down? I think there's a chance that happens. um
00:53:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Clemson's defense is good, too. And i something about this Texas offense is just broken.
00:53:42
Zack
Yeah, will Arch Manning see the field some more?
00:53:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And it has been since.
00:53:46
Zack
Will, there's, this Texas team has looked very good at times and it's just looked pretty bad at times.
00:53:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:53:54
Zack
I guess I'd say most teams in the country. They had really high moments and just moments where it was like, ooh, does this team very good at all?
00:54:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But but they're bad moments are bad, like
00:54:02
Zack
I don't know.
00:54:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just really bad.
00:54:06
Zack
Sure.
00:54:10
Zack
They lost to Georgia twice. Rest of their schedule was pretty soft.
00:54:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:54:16
Zack
A lot of wins against teams that aren't great.
00:54:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, who, who did they lose to?
00:54:21
Zack
I don't know, this is a tricky one. That line is... huh?
00:54:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Did they only lose the Georgia?
00:54:27
Zack
Twice, yeah.
00:54:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's it. They almost lost the Vandy.
00:54:32
Zack
Yup.
00:54:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think they really had any other scares the rest of the season.
00:54:38
Zack
Not really, yeah. They didn't play a very tough schedule though and they had Kentucky, they had. They played at Arkansas, which Tennessee lost there, but they they went there pretty comfortably.
00:54:48
Zack
They played Oklahoma and went pretty comfortably there as well.
00:54:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:54:53
Zack
The rest of the schedule was just very soft.
00:54:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um' I'm on Clemson plus 12.
00:54:59
Zack
Wow.
00:55:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I am.
00:55:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i just I just have seen this story with Texas too many times, man.
00:55:05
Zack
I think I won.
00:55:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've seen Sark not do what he's supposed to do. Like the obvious thing I quit New Year's is bad. I think we can all agree. I think Archmanian gives them a dynamic to the offense that they need as far as his running ability. um It was that that was working when he did that against George in the SEC Championship game and he stopped doing it because he has this loyalty. Sark has a loyalty to the quarterback because he said he was going to be his guy.
00:55:37
Zack
Well, it's about to end. It might be over now actually.
00:55:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's what I think.
00:55:41
Zack
It's probably over.
00:55:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And Clemson's just like this is this is the most Dabo thing ever of somehow find a way in the playoff. When your first round game, Mr. I don't do and I know I don't do transfer portal.
00:55:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is the way college football should stay, blah, blah, blah. And somehow it gets it done.
00:56:03
Zack
And Montax is minus 12.
00:56:03
Mason
you You know what I'm heard about? Tinsley talking about yours being as bad as he is and just trashing the guy. You know how many times this guy has wished yours on me and my Titan's like team drafting him?
00:56:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hey, news flash for you, pal. I don't want the Titans to succeed, ever. I don't know why you you take that as a personal offense.
00:56:25
Mason
are you wishing that up Why are you wishing that upon me?
00:56:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't like the Tennessee Titans.
00:56:29
Zack
because he wants his team benefits if the Titans suck.
00:56:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was six years old. My first football memory is the Jaguars in the AFC Championship game and the stupid Tennessee Titans beating us.
00:56:38
Zack
Hmm.
00:56:40
Mason
Hmm.
00:56:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
At six years old, I cried about it.
00:56:42
Zack
It's called Childhood Trauma, Mason.
00:56:45
Mason
That's what it's called.
00:56:45
Zack
Read about it.
00:56:48
Mason
Aren't you supposed to be on my side, Zach? You're a Titans fan.
00:56:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach's not Italian spin until they fix their until they fix their issues.
00:56:52
Zack
yes There's...
00:56:53
Mason
Oh.
00:56:54
Zack
I am a Titans fan. I'm a Titans fan. I would like them to fix some issues. I'm on Texas minus 12.
00:57:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ever since they let Derek can relieve.
00:57:03
Zack
I'm on Texas minus 12. I think Clemson.
00:57:05
Mason
Hmm.
00:57:09
Zack
I'm not going to change my narrative about Clemson just because they beat this SMU team that I'm not sure is elite anyways. um
00:57:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
By three on the last second buzzer. Yeah, like no, they're not.
00:57:18
Zack
I'm just, I'm not going to sit here, Clemson played the best game of the year. They beat an SMU team that is fine, but an SMU team that lost to BYU who turned out not to be that good anyways. Texas is has, their talent level is higher.
00:57:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
For sure.
00:57:35
Zack
um Quarterback play, even if 10s is trashing on it, is better than club Nick.
00:57:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You think so?
00:57:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a pretty it's a mid off.
00:57:46
Zack
It could be a mid off. I will say, um, I just think, I think this probably isn't close.
00:57:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Between both of them.
00:57:54
Zack
I think there's a reality where it is a close. I think any of these games could be just come down to it. I don't know. I guess it's the fun of the playoff. These teams that don't normally play each other and you go, you get to see some match ups that no one would have expected.
00:58:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:58:06
Zack
So congrats you. We get Texas, Texas Clemson first round. Who would have thought, um, I'm in Texas might as well though.
00:58:17
Zack
Okay, ah last matchup of the day. One of the lower ah point total over unders in definitely the lowest of the playoff games, ah but one of the lower in all the bowl games, 46 and a half, seven and a half point favorites, Ohio State hosting your Tennessee volunteers.
00:58:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. First round. Yeah.
00:58:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's crazy how much of a an under team Tennessee has become Ohio state as well this season. Like they're both leaned heavy on their defense and run games.
00:58:51
Zack
Yeah, I mean, their defense is solid. Yeah. Definitely.
00:58:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not what you think of like just a couple of years ago, you had Hendon hooker throwing 50 yard bombs multiple times a game and Ohio state had CJ Stroud and Justin Fields, like two teams that you think offense and and big plays.
00:59:03
Zack
C.J. Stroud.
00:59:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And now it's kind of shifted to defense and run the ball.
00:59:16
Zack
Yeah, it's going to be interesting. We've already talked about it a little bit. I do think the defenses are going to kind of dominate this game. I think there is a reality where the offensive line issues for Ohio State opens up a potential for Tennessee's defensive line to dominate that side of the ball and to wreak havoc on Will Howard.
00:59:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, that's the key.
00:59:36
Zack
Don't give him any time to get the ball to his elite wide receivers. He has elite wide receivers, but I think they're going to try and disrupt him back there.
00:59:46
Zack
The same could be true on the other side. I think Ohio State's defensive line could give a lot of problems to the run game that Tennessee has leaned on so much this season, and to bail them out of so many bad situations.
00:59:58
Zack
I think there's a reality where if Tennessee's run game gets stuffed pretty good, and Will Howard can't get of a lot going, this game is very low scoring. I think that benefits Tennessee.
01:00:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
who I agree.
01:00:10
Zack
I think that's a, if we get into a similar game like Michigan got in with Ohio State, where it was really close late, really low scoring, hard for teams to get the ball in the end zone. I think if it's close to late, it's ah it's a coin flip. And so I think Tennessee would take that at this point. um I don't see this being a Tennessee blowout win. I just have a hard time putting that narrative in my brain and trying to figure out how that works. um But I also have a hard time thinking it would be an Ohio State blowout wins. I think it's gonna be close. I'm taking Tennessee plus seven and a half.
01:00:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think these teams are more similar than they are different. I just don't see where plus seven and a half isn't like that's a crazy number. This is a one position game all day between these two teams. um You can take my UT fandom like out of it like this is a one score game both ways. So plus seven and a half like that's that's an easy bet to me. I think it's going to just come down the which quarterback doesn't make the mistake first.
01:01:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, the bad pick six, the bad s sack fumble holding onto the ball too long. Like those things you can't do. So, uh, and I think hype will have Nico ready. And I just don't think Will Howard, when it's time to, when it's time to be in a big game, in a big game situation, he's shown that he's not that guy.
01:01:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I don't think we've, I don't think Nico's proven it yet, but he's also a freshman. Will Howard is a fifth year senior who has shown he's not like, even back to Kansas state, he couldn't do it.
01:01:39
Zack
Sure.
01:01:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I trust Hypel. I think the coaching advantage is real. I think Hypel is a, is a significantly better college football coach than Ryan Day. So yeah, I definitely agree.
01:01:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
UT plus seven and a half feels Like a good, like a legitimately good bet.
01:02:02
Zack
Feels good.
01:02:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Also the money line on the sprinkle of the dinkle.
01:02:10
Mason
Zach, are you taking the first quarter? I feel like we always take first quarter bets on UT.
01:02:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
First quarter spread.
01:02:15
Mason
Yeah.
01:02:15
Zack
What is it, you know?
01:02:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can tell you, one second.
01:02:19
Zack
I did put all four of those spreads together and I took... I parlayed them.
01:02:26
Zack
Um...
01:02:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Was it at first quarter UT is plus two and a half at plus 100 The dreaded the dreaded field goal hook
01:02:33
Mason
The field goal hook.
01:02:34
Zack
Plus 100.
01:02:38
Zack
um I took it at plus 1173 for Pick Partly. Indiana plus seven and a half. Penn State minus eight and a half. Texas minus 12. Tennessee plus seven and a half.
01:02:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, because I'm not a coward, I will also be doing that with my picks. So I've got Notre Dame minus seven and a half. Penn State, we agreed on.
01:03:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm taking Clemson and I'm taking UT. I got 1230, plus 1230.
01:03:10
Zack
Wow.
01:03:11
Mason
Mm.
01:03:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Them underdogs got a little more extra juice.
01:03:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just willy nilly, just bet it. and Who cares, it's fine.
01:03:22
Zack
It's just money.
01:03:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just money.
01:03:25
Zack
OK.
01:03:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who needs it?
01:03:26
Zack
Great work.
01:03:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. what
01:03:29
Zack
Also, I pretty nice tendency to win the national championship ticket.
01:03:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ticket just staring at you.
01:03:35
Zack
So a couple of them.
01:03:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I got some, I got some Tennessee's and some Oregon tickets looking at me, which I hate that they're playing each other in second round, but you know, it is what it is.
01:03:45
Zack
I also have a $1 10 pick parlay for my bed slip from to win $122,000, so.
01:03:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I got a little wild last night and just, uh, I don't know, just, I saw, I was looking at college basketball conference winners and I saw a line that I could not believe.
01:04:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I was like, well, let's just kind of mess around for a second. And next thing I knew we had 10 picks.
01:04:09
Mason
That happens, yep.
01:04:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hey, it just, it's just, just takes one.
01:04:16
Mason
so Should we put that on the Discord?
01:04:18
Zack
and Actually, we'll take 10 consecutive things happening.
01:04:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But it just takes one bit. Yeah, I'll throw I'll throw in the discord for anyone who wants to join join in with the boys What if they offer it what if enough people bet it they offers a cash out like hey wait a second These guys must know something we don't know
01:04:25
Mason
attempt Tempt people on it a little bit. Make draft kings go bankrupt.
01:04:35
Zack
They know something. them I'll be honest, if it gets up to like $2, I'm cashing out. If it seems like an any amount of cash out, it's over.
01:04:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
what they're never gonna offer it because one of the legs is Scotty Scheffer to win the masters and with golfing tournaments, they're they won't offer it.
01:04:53
Zack
oh like plus 400 it wasn't that crazy the Scottish F were like
01:04:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause I've had features with like legs that have won and it's like randomly I'll have a golfer in there and they're like, no, sorry, bud.
01:05:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's the fate. Yeah, he's favorite. um All right. Did we... oh It as far as other college bowl games and playoff talk obviously come back for Monday's episode We'll have a recap of the games first ah weekend and then you know We'll be previewing doing all that stuff and make sure you join us in the discord and come talk to us like we're we're in there we can come chat about these games when yell about refs and
01:05:23
Zack
Mm-hmm.
01:05:29
Zack
Yeah. Relocked in. Yeah.
01:05:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, so make sure you're in there with us for more than just pics. It's a good place to get all of our pics, but we also just kind of chop it up in there. It's like a big group text. So if you are interested in doing that with us, that is what that is for.
01:05:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And if you cannot figure out how to join the discord, hit us up on the gram, we can send you a link.
01:05:53
Zack
Um, sorry.
01:05:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Links don't work or on TikTok for some reason, some kind of weird feature where you can't post links.
01:05:58
Mason
Hmm Yeah,
01:06:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
TikTok, so lame. um All right, did we wanna finish up with a little bit of NFL news? We've got some kind of groundbreaking news, honestly.
01:06:11
Mason
yeah, it's crazy stuff
01:06:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just happened today. so this hit So if you're listening to this Thursday morning, this happened Wednesday night, Wednesday afternoon, but some big news in the NFL out in hot Lanta, Mason, what is going on?
01:06:26
Mason
Yeah, so, uh, you remember that time that they, uh, paid Kirk cousins a four year, $180 million, uh, guaranteed.
01:06:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
was a, yeah, a fat guarantee for 30, a 36 year old quarterback coming off an Achilles injury.
01:06:38
Mason
Fat guarantee. Yeah.
01:06:43
Mason
Yeah. Yeah. So he, uh, in the last five games, he's had nine picks and one touchdown and they decided to bench him for Michael Pinnix Jr., which was, uh, One of the hot topics for the draft, no one saw it coming.
01:06:56
Mason
Uh, so there's seven and seven. Is that correct? Seven and seven. So they have a chance to still, it's a small chance, but they got a chance.
01:07:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think so.
01:07:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's they're still in their division race. Like the bucks aren't too far ahead.
01:07:08
Mason
Yeah, exactly. So it's one of those things where they went ahead and made the change. And um if they ended up releasing Kirk Cousins at the end of the season, he would be paid out $90 million dollars just to play the 14 games.
01:07:26
Mason
Do you think it's a good move? How you feeling about this? I mean, obviously it's not looking good that they paid Kirk that much money, but what what do you think about the change so soon?
01:07:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:07:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think I don't think it's a bad idea to go. I mean, I think they kind of know they're out of it. Tampa's last three games are against the the Saints, um the the Panthers and somebody else in there that's bad.
01:07:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but pretty easy the last three games kind of feels like they they've got the division on lock unless they do something dumb and like lose to the Saints or the Panthers. um So I think the Falcons are kind of waving the white flag and let's see what we've got in Michael Pinnix and kind of just say, hey, this is the future. I don't know whose decision it was to give Kirk Cousins all that money and then draft Michael Pinnix because you're just setting yourself up for this situation to happen.
01:08:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I don't know how, I don't know what they do moving forward. You can't cut him because you've, you ruin your salary cap situation for years. So you kind of have to hope that there's a team like what, what the Steelers did, the Steelers traded for Russell Wilson. Kind of have to hope there's a team that is willing to kind of do the same trade, but I don't know that there is one, honestly.
01:08:43
Mason
Hmm Yeah, cuz so forgive me is that was they're not dead money with that one even though they traded Broncos had to pay out, right?
01:08:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:08:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They still,
01:08:53
Mason
Or am I crazy?
Kirk Cousins Trade Speculations
01:08:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the the Broncos still this season and next season have a pretty big cap hit as far as Russell Wilson goes.
01:08:54
Mason
Okay, so
01:08:59
Mason
What, so if they were cut.
01:09:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's significantly less than when he was going to be on the team.
01:09:03
Mason
Okay. So would that still happen?
01:09:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So.
01:09:05
Mason
That would still be the same situation with Kirk.
01:09:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, that was, and and Russell was already two years into that contract.
01:09:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is one year of Kirk.
01:09:12
Mason
Yeah.
01:09:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So the the majority, the bulk of his contract is still ahead.
01:09:14
Mason
One year.
01:09:15
Mason
Hmm.
01:09:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, so I don't know a team that's going to be willing to. to essentially pay for the Falcons mistake. Cause I don't know anyone who's going to be in a bad enough quarterback situation to do that.
01:09:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause you do have a, the draft is coming up and in both teams that are going to be picking one and two, the Raiders and the Giants, they're going to get their guys. They're going to get cam or they're going to get sure Sanders, Sam Darnold's going to land somewhere.
01:09:43
Mason
Yeah.
01:09:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And so then you look at around the league and you're like, well, where's he going to end up? there's There's only 32 jobs and you're only gonna pay a quarterback that kind of money if you think your window is right now.
01:09:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like that's what the Steelers did.
01:09:57
Mason
yeah
01:09:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Steelers made that trade, or no, they signed Russell Wilson in free agency. um The Broncos made that the the deal back then to trade for Russell Wilson because they thought they could win the Super Bowl right then.
01:10:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know if there's any team with a bunch of cap space that's like, yeah, we can make a trade for Kirk Cousins and go after a Super Bowl next season. I just don't know who it would be.
01:10:24
Mason
I'm just looking back, it's easier to say it now, but like why didn't they just keep Desmond Ritter as the like the transfer quarterback to like hand the keys over to Michael Penix instead of paying this money?
01:10:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think they really thought they would get two years out of Kirk.
01:10:39
Mason
Yeah, it's not looking like it.
01:10:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The way his contract set up was like after two years, the number kind of dips down a little bit to where it was manageable to trade him. Um, so I, and Kirk just kind of fell off a cliff.
01:10:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like he, he played okay at some points of the season, but then out of nowhere, it's just like father time's undefeated.
01:10:56
Mason
Yeah. Yep. And with the injuries and everything, and even with, um, Michael Pinnix, uh, this will help him get, even if they're not in the playoffs, this will help get these three games to set up for next season.
01:11:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, the one team I've seen like floated is that the 49ers might trade for Kirk Cousins because of the Shanahan's love for Kirk Cousins and Brock Purdy is due for it.
01:11:11
Mason
So, uh, yeah.
01:11:22
Mason
Hmm.
01:11:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like they do have to sign Brock Purdy. And that's where we're we're about to have a very interesting summer of do you pay Brock Purdy as the top court? Like does he get the top quarterback money or
01:11:35
Mason
Yeah.
01:11:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Do you tell Brock Purdy like, hey, we we we know who you are as a quarterback.
01:11:39
Mason
We're going to let you walk.
01:11:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We think you're good, you're great for the system, but you need to have the the best talent around you. Well, we can't pay the but we can't have Christian McCaffrey, we can't have George Kittle, Brandon IU, Deebo Samuel, an elite defense if we're paying you $65 million dollars a year.
01:11:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Will you do what patch my homes and Tom Brady do and take a significantly less contract so we can pay everyone else? And I don't know that he will. I don't know that.
01:12:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, he doesn't have to. He could say, no, I'm cool. I'm just going to, I'll walk. And then some free agent team, like the Raiders will hand him four bajillion dollars.
01:12:09
Mason
Yeah.
01:12:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that's going to be an interesting.
01:12:19
Mason
Jillian.
01:12:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Good Jillian.
01:12:22
Mason
Yeah.
01:12:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's science. Look it up.
01:12:26
Mason
Okay, well a little rapid fire here. Will Levis had a heck of a game last week. I'm being sarcastic. I saw all this coming. Don't want to brag a little bit, but Christmas is a week out, so it's Mason Rudolph time, you know? Perfect time, Christmas time. I already saw Into the Future, and DraftKings is going to do some ridiculous ah Holiday parlay pre-made thing and it's gonna have Mason Rudolph rushing yards or to throw a touchdown or something something ridiculous in there so there's that and then Vrable talks already.
01:13:01
Mason
Everybody's already trying to grab.
01:13:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, hold up.
01:13:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hold up.
01:13:03
Mason
Yes.
01:13:03
Mason
Go ahead
01:13:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So so what is what do you do now? As a Titans fan, you're not you don't have a high enough draft pick to take Shador or Cam Ward.
01:13:16
Mason
We just go to free agent, right, Zach?
01:13:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So Sam Darnold.
01:13:19
Zack
Tins we talked about this over and over again. It's a double tank situation It
01:13:24
Mason
Double tank, the good old double tank.
01:13:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right, but double tank situation doesn't exist in the NFL.
01:13:27
Mason
It does for us.
01:13:27
Zack
does what are you talking about we just talked about the Titans got two two Heisman picks in a row That was that was a double tank.
01:13:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If if
01:13:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That was an accident.
01:13:35
Mason
Double tank.
01:13:36
Zack
We we got Derek Henry Marcus, Marietta back to back Who cares fire everybody?
01:13:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
People people were fired. People were fired. GM's were fired for that.
01:13:41
Zack
I don't care double tank tank the whole program
01:13:44
Mason
Double tank.
01:13:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The people running the team are not going to double tank because they'll get fired.
01:13:48
Zack
They might accidentally. That's probably what's gonna happen. I don't think they're very smart.
01:13:55
Mason
As you can tell with their last couple of decisions anyway, so it's a good old double tank.
01:13:58
Zack
and Don't just don't take a quarterback this cycle. Take somebody take another roleplay or take take somebody you need. Wait for next year where there should be some quarterbacks open.
01:14:10
Zack
Double tank.
01:14:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
we'll tank.
01:14:11
Mason
Double tank.
01:14:11
Zack
Don't be stupid.
01:14:12
Mason
If, if they would, if they would listen to me and got Bryce young traded form for a third round pick when they could have mad about it.
01:14:13
Zack
Don't reach for somebody dumb.
01:14:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So too late.
01:14:21
Mason
Listen, it's a good old double tank situation.
01:14:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, so is it Aaron Rogers, Sam Donald or,
01:14:27
Zack
Jamis
01:14:28
Mason
No, Jamis
Quarterback Strategy Discussion
01:14:30
Mason
Winston Get them on there I already talked about this Get four washed up young quarterbacks.
01:14:35
Zack
Do you think there's there's a ah bridge quarterback potential?
01:14:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jones,
01:14:42
Mason
Yes, it exists a washed up. You don't have to be 40 year old Yeah, you get a washed up get like a tray lance all this second Second chance guys out there fourth chance, whatever you want to call them But get a bunch of young guys throw them all in there to compete against each other and then double tank.
01:14:44
Zack
Not
01:14:59
Mason
That's all it is Hashtag double tank Okay. Last thing. Right. Well, jets, bears, or what was the last one? It wasn't the Jags, was it?
01:15:11
Mason
No, it wasn't.
01:15:11
Zack
back to titans maybe north carolina defensive coordinator now his son is the defensive coordinator just kidding
01:15:11
Mason
It couldn't have been the Jags. Back to the Titans. a Patriots was.
01:15:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Patriots aren't gonna fire their coach though.
01:15:22
Mason
He's on the Brown staff.
01:15:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
01:15:32
Mason
Nice little positive.
01:15:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry.
01:15:34
Mason
Any comments question?
01:15:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I think Rabe's, I think Rabe's gonna have his choice of where he wants to go this this cycle.
01:15:44
Zack
Wow.
01:15:45
Mason
What do you look good until yes or no, and then we'll wrap up the pod.
01:15:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
third He's the third best option in two.
01:15:50
Mason
I want to hear the top two and then we're done.
01:15:50
Zack
Listen, I want to hear your top 10.
01:15:54
Mason
Top 10 top 20.
01:15:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
bing jo Ben, Ben, Ben Johnson. um I can't say his name. The Bucks ah offensive coordinator, Liam Cohen, I think is how you say his name, perhaps.
01:16:02
Zack
Oh, bell check. Where's the bell check on list?
01:16:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And not on the list ever. Lucky for me, he's in North Carolina. I don't have to worry about it.
01:16:10
Zack
Well, for now.
01:16:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He didn't go there just to leave. That's what he said.
01:16:14
Zack
Well, we'll see about that. If he gets an NFL offer, he's out of there.
01:16:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
His buyout is in a way that it can it can happen this season as soon as like January hits his bio It's like a million or something.
01:16:19
Zack
Who are we joking?
01:16:23
Zack
That's what I'm saying. Who? yeah
01:16:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's crazy um And then variable I think variables number three I would I would like variable
01:16:29
Mason
Million.
01:16:31
Zack
Wow.
Top Coaching Picks and Trades
01:16:34
Mason
All right.
01:16:35
Zack
Hmm.
01:16:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's the top three then clin kuak Clint Kubiak Cliff Kingsbury
01:16:38
Zack
What about your other 17 top points?
01:16:45
Zack
Mmm.
01:16:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Trade for Mike Tomlin I would I would trade my I would trade our top five pick for Mike Tomlin.
01:16:49
Zack
Mike Tomlin.
01:16:49
Mason
A good old coach trade.
01:16:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know Kyle Shanahan if he's fired his way up the list Myself Actually, no, I'm not I don't want to be the coach I'd like to be the defense I would like to be the GM that's where I could do some damage I
01:16:56
Zack
Wow.
01:17:04
Zack
Jim Harbaugh. Ryan Day. Lincoln Riley.
01:17:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope, not on the list Lincoln Riley, not unless Deebo Sam or not deep.
01:17:15
Mason
Yep.
01:17:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can always say Deebo Dabo Sweeney
Closing Remarks and Holiday Specials
01:17:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
not on the list I'll take Dan Lanning.
01:17:23
Zack
Dan close at least I don't know what's the record
01:17:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's on he's probably in my top ten. He's finding 10 Less miles.
01:17:29
Mason
Less miles.
01:17:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm alright. I'm good on that one Good
01:17:36
Mason
All right, is that a pod everybody? All right. Thank you everybody for listening. Uh, a good old record. Is this the record of the longest pod possibly? Okay. Well, thank you all for listening to our yammering for an hour and 17 minutes. We appreciate everybody. Hope you guys have a great weekend. We'll have some, uh, some holiday special. Maybe, I don't know who, who knows what's happening, but we'll figure it out. So you guys have a great weekend and we'll talk to you later. See ya.
01:18:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Now it's been for 18 minutes of yammering.