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First Round Playoff Reaction, NFL Playoff Scenarios, and Christmas with Mason
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The boys play a Christmas-themed game, break down all of the first round college football playoff games, and talk about the potential NFL playoff scenarios coming down the stretch.
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Introduction and Weekend Recap
00:00:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What is up, everybody? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. We are live on a Sunday night. It's been an awesome weekend of football for some, not for all of the people that probably listen to this podcast.
00:00:21
Mason
Mm.
00:00:23
Zack
Wrong.
Mason's Christmas Special
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But it is what it is. We're here. We're we're facing the adversity. If you thought we were going to hide and not be here after the ball is lost on Saturday, you're wrong. we you know It turns out we're a basketball school anyways.
00:00:35
Zack
Thanks.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who cares? But ah we we've got plenty of talk about college football playoffs. First ah weekend NFL is getting wild with all of the playoff stipulations happening.
The Santa Illusion
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And we have a very special masons Christmas special segment. It's word special.
00:00:54
Mason
That is, yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's very special Mason.
00:00:56
Zack
Very special masons, actually Christmas special.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Mason
Yeah. All of a sudden I just like, I didn't know what to say at the end of the last episode and just made a promise for no reason of like, and we'll do a, we'll do a Christmas special. And then at the very end, they're like, uh, what's this Christmas special we're talking about? So, uh, you know, when, uh, I promised something I have to deliver. So we can, we came up with, uh,
00:01:18
Mason
A fun little game here. ah Back to the UT thing.
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Zack
Yeah.
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Mason
I did see you talk about basketball season. ah so Do you know the Homer Simpson gift where it's like him going into the bushes? It was like him wearing a football UT jersey and then he like goes into the bushes and then comes back out and he's wearing a UT basketball jersey.
00:01:36
Zack
Bingo. All you need, folks.
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Mason
That's it.
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Zack
Number one, undefeated.
00:01:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's right. Number one, the country.
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Zack
Men and women. Lady Vols, undefeated as well.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, I have a funny story about Christmas real quick. If, if I can share, um, maybe make sure Macy does not listen, starting now.
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Mason
We're here for it
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Uh, so my wife got all the presents for Christmas wrapped super early. Everything's wrapped and she wanted to put everything under the tree. I was like, all right, whatever.
00:02:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So Christmas is a few days. Go ahead. Macy gets up this morning. She goes, Oh my goodness. Why are there so many presents under the tree? I was like, well, we just went ahead and put everything out. My wife didn't realize that she put the Santa gifts under there as well.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um She only, she gets one thing from Santa, both the girls do.
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Mason
Uh oh.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like a real, it's like a big present, but not the biggest. I've talked with that before. The coolest present does not come from Santa.
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Zack
Worst present, Santa.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just like a pretty average present.
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Zack
So.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Santa's not getting all the the credit around here. um I have built a very intricate, Empire of Lies when it comes to Santa.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah My daughter is convinced that I can text Santa Claus, that it's a dad thing.
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Zack
ah
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Zack
Wow.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All
Gift Hierarchies and Santa Stories
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
dads can text Santa Claus. So Zach, ah if she ever brings it up to you, you can also text Santa.
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Zack
All right, I got the line.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, yep, you're you're in there with me now.
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Zack
He texts you as soon as you become a dad. It's like you're in a big group.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, you're in, you're in the club.
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Zack
It's a group text.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah So yeah, so she'll she'll even randomly ask me like, can you text Santa this for my Christmas list or, you know, just throughout the year, she she loves it.
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Mason
So how did the Santa text thing become, was it like a, hey, if you're in a better, if you're not in a good mood while we're in the grocery store, I'm going to text Santa, like how did it come across?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So then.
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Mason
Was it using it as a let's behave type of situation?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I think I.
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Zack
we
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Mason
Oh, okay.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I don't remember exactly, but it was just like.
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Mason
All of a sudden you could text Santa.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think just rent. Yeah, I think she even asked. She was like, how does Santa even know what I want for Christmas? And I think I just was like, oh, I text him.
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Zack
Question.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And so i ever since it's like, that's that's what I rolled with. um And have I have used that.
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Mason
Don't have to make that Christmas card.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Now I have used that where I'm like, if you don't stop acting crazy, I'm gonna text Santa that you're your out of control.
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Mason
There you go.
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Zack
Santa only brings lame gifts anyways.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It doesn't normally work anyway. She's like, whatever. ah No, no banshee attitude. yeah Yeah, exactly.
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Zack
He can keep his socks.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh, so I had to very quickly think on my feet as I'd been up for all of 30 seconds this morning. Cause Macy woke me up three inches from my face going, why are there Santa gifts under the tree?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was like, uh, so that went to Morgan after and I was like, thanks.
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Mason
So So does Santa's presence yeah, what was your answer
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm really having to just play a lot of defense here this year. You're, you're really not helping me.
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Zack
What did you say? What was your answer?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I told her, ah well, so luckily she didn't see hers. She just saw the
Santa's Food Preferences and Taco Talk
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
one for Maddie and me. And I told her, I was like, your mom was just messing around with me last night because I already know what I got for Christmas. So she was joking around being like Santa.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and she bought it. Luckily for me, my daughter's pretty gullible.
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Zack
Wow Yeah,
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um She thinks everything I say is true, so that's good, she as I lie to her all the time about Santa. um So then I found ah had to go and find her present that's from Santa and grab it and hide it when she was not in the room.
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Mason
OK, I.
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Zack
of course
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Mason
OK, gotcha. I thought that maybe Santa's presence were in a certain like a special Santa wrapping paper, and that's how she knew or not.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope. No, he uses the same way.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He he texts and asks what wrapping paper we're wrapping our gifts in, and he uses the same one.
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Mason
That's.
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Mason
There you go. That text thread, you know, and that's useful.
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Zack
That guy's good.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
me Me and Santa text a lot. A lot of info going back and forth between me and Santa. and Santa doesn't want cookies this year. He's wanting some brownies.
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Zack
a
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Had to put it in the request. You know, had to make sure Morgan knew that Santa wanted brownies this year, not cookies.
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Zack
True.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And shes she's also been reminding Morgan of that. She's like, make sure you buy stuff for brownies, because Santa doesn't want cookies from our house. He's got a lot of cookies.
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Zack
sort
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He said he wanted brownies.
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Mason
You should have said you should have said ah Santa wants some Taco Bell and just leave out like your favorite your your favorite Taco Bell.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh that it No, she.
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Mason
I did bring that up for a reason though. a Nice little segue there, but yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah. um Yeah, so my Taco Bell app. It's back. It only took almost a year.
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Zack
We're back.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Still not on my debit card.
Taco Bell's Chicken Nugget Review
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I had to buy a virtual gift card. I had tried it with a physical gift card before and uploaded it and didn't work, but I bought an e-gift card this morning, tried it and it worked.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So we're back.
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Zack
no
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can just reload that through my debit card and there we go.
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Mason
What was the first purchase on the ah the app? and
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, breakfast this morning, just to test it, the steak crunch wrap sub the Cinnabon things for so the hash Brown with the Baja blast.
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Mason
Yep, there you go.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, so bang bang.
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Zack
Mm. Breakfast Baja Blast.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, as I had star, but I was also picking up Starbucks, um, for everyone. So very caffeinated this morning.
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Zack
I love it.
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Mason
Um, are you guys going to try the Taco Bell nuggets? Can we talk about that right now?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I, I got some yesterday.
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Mason
Oh, you got them. Okay. Did you tell, did you tell me this?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm. No, I was saving it for the pod.
00:07:07
Mason
No. Oh, okay. Good deal. Oh, let's hear the review, the official tens review of the the chicken nuggets.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, so the chicken chicken nuggets are good.
00:07:15
Mason
They look good. I will say that part.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The breading is very good. they're They're very crispy, but also they're juicy.
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Mason
They call that tortilla seasoning, right?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Lot. Yeah, it's a I don't know what it's it's it's like a tortilla bread, but also like normal breading to um It's really good. I was very surprised at the quality of the chicken nuggets. um So that I was happy with. They're very big. They're not like little tiny McNuggets from McDonald's. Like they're actually like
Christmas Taboo Game
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
pretty good. Like they look like boneless wings from wing stop size.
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Mason
That's awesome.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um The sauces, I was pretty disappointed in all three sauces to be honest.
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Mason
Oh man. Okay.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The, yeah.
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Mason
Well, let's go over each one. You got the bell sauce bell dip dipping.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The bell sauce is like the, you know, the quesadilla chipotle sauce. It's like they mix that with barbecue.
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Mason
Yeah. Hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It wasn't good. It was my least favorite. Two out of 10.
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Mason
Wow. Okay. And then the next one had been the hidden Valley fire ranch dipping sauce.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wasn't very hot. It was just kind of like Ranch and you took a little bit of Texas Pete and mixed it in there It's like on a scale of one to ten hot level.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was like a two But it it tasted I mean it tasted good So I would put in it at like a six out of ten and as far as the sauces go It
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Mason
And then the last one was a jalapeno honey mustard.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
just tastes like honey mustard I couldn't taste any jalapeno at all And I like I mean
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Mason
Yeah, when I saw this, go ahead.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry, I was gonna say I like honey mustard, but not it didn't fit the vibe of like the the chicken with the tortilla seasoning and breading.
00:08:58
Mason
Yeah, we've had a snacking with Zach on ah the pod. I saw his video, of the review, he gave like level heat for, for all the, all of them. So he's, I don't know if you saw that was kind of the same, like a four or two, but he, he liked the sauces too.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Mason
So a little, little disappointing that you didn't like him, but.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't know. I just I didn't really like them. They were they were let down, but the chicken was good. Overall, I'd put him at like a six point seven.
00:09:27
Mason
Okay. There you go. You heard it here first.
00:09:33
Mason
Okay. So what do we, what do we do next over here? Everybody sex is being distracting with this standing desk.
00:09:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Zach, Zach has a standing desk today, so he's just benching around over there.
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Mason
That's why
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, I don't know. There's a thousand avenues we can go. It's been, it's been a crazy weekend of sports and gambling and teams coming back from the ashes, but I think it's, it's Christmas time.
00:09:54
Mason
Should we do the, Um, yep, there it is. The Mason Christmas special. Is that what we're doing?
00:10:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
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Mason
Okay. So I came up with an idea here and, um, i and for everybody listening at home or in the car or whatever, if you've played taboo, you know, what I'm talking about.
00:10:13
Mason
Apparently I've played this several times with Zach and tens and I didn't even realize it.
00:10:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Apparently we, Mason, it used to be like a a standing thing to do at Robert and Sonia's house.
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Mason
Cause I was like, I know, and I know, and I, and I forgot, I was like, do you remember taboo?
00:10:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You really asked, he went, he was like, have you guys ever played taboo?
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Mason
and
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Zack
Yeah, I have played multiple times.
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Mason
Multiple times so we came up with ah I was able to find Christmas cards Taboo I'm gonna have the guys work as a team Here's the rules. There is just your generic Christmas place thing, idea, characters, um and we're going to, each one's gonna go back and forth.
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Mason
They have 16 each, so 32.
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Zack
Okay.
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Zack
okay
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Mason
We set the time limit at five minutes, so they have to complete this in five minutes, and they have to get over 20, what did we set the line to?
00:11:05
Zack
and We should have to get all of them now. Now that I'm looking at it, I think we should have to get all 32 in five minutes.
00:11:08
Mason
That's what I was saying. All right, let's do all of them. Five minutes. I think you guys can do it.
00:11:12
Zack
We go back and forth.
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Mason
It's back and forth. OK, so for anybody that's never played taboo, um they have a and I know it's more of a visual as well, so they don't know the words underneath, but they have a word and then there's four or five words associated with it underneath that they cannot say.
00:11:29
Mason
I'm going to be the mon monitor, monitor, whatever. I'm the one that's going to be buzzing them.
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Zack
ye
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Mason
So I'm going to be like if they do say it.
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Zack
mean
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Mason
Now, ah how about this? if you If you say one of the words, do I buzz you and that's a dead word, or what do we do here? And you have 30, it gives you two to, if I buzz you on two, then you still are alive.
00:11:45
Zack
Maybe it should be 30, so then we can have two words.
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Mason
So let's do 30 out of the 32, but set of five.
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Zack
like that I will.
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Mason
We'll go back and forth. um Who wants to start?
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Mason
And I think this is fun for everybody to play at home as well.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right
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Mason
Like they can start guessing while they're, so and this is,
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Zack
ah so I think you should give us like one minute warnings every minute Yeah, or yeah, yeah, just let us know when stuff is happening The guy tends texts No That may see
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Mason
okay so four minute three two like that and that's how you want it okay okay all right so i'm starting the timer zach then tens back and forth three two one go
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Snack or Zach? Zach, sorry.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, Santa Santa Claus.
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Zack
Uh-huh. Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry, that's.
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Mason
These are all Christmas words. Go ahead, Tenz.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, all right, all right.
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Mason
Now you're now you' your turn. So your word.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right, the 12th month.
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Zack
December.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
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Zack
Uh, dude with in the front of the group of, yep.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Rained Rudolph.
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Mason
Good job. All right. Back to you, Tenz.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, ah competition of Whoville on everyone's houses.
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Zack
Uh, hanging Christmas lights, Christmas lights, decorations.
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Mason
Lights. There you go.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, yeah.
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Mason
We'll give it to him.
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Zack
Um, not South, but.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
North Pole.
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Zack
Yep.
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Mason
Nice.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Everyone sends these.
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Zack
Christmas cards.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just just one word, the last word, yep.
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Mason
it's Okay.
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Zack
Card. Card. Um, person, person wedded to the guy who attends texts.
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Mason
We're at 348.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mrs.
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Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Claus.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The the the the.
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Zack
The Grinch made in the North Pole.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Toys.
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Zack
Bingo.
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Mason
Nice. Bingo.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I do this on a daily basis.
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Zack
Deliver. um Deliver toys.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What are they called?
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Zack
Deliver packages. Deliver gifts.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
just know that one word but just as a a single with that.
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Zack
Gifts.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
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Zack
Packages.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah job Drop a letter.
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Zack
Deliveries package close enough.
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Mason
Three minutes.
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Zack
Oh People who thank you Money spend
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Elves.
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Mason
Wow.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Something you would hate to do. You're gonna go out and spend
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Mason
Don't say the word.
00:14:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. So what are you doing? when You're day like that.
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Zack
Save money.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Grocery.
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Zack
um Store, grocery budget, budget.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, just just just freak. No, forget about what I just said, just what I'm going to go. Grocery.
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Zack
Shopping.
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There you go.
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Mason
There it is.
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Zack
Gosh.
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Zack
Horses who drag.
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Sled.
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Zack
the not horses, but. Other animals.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Slay, slay, huh?
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Zack
um oh
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not getting this one, I don't think.
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Zack
North Pole horses.
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Mason
You can have a pass.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
North Pole horses.
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Zack
North Pole.
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Reindeer.
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Zack
Yeah.
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Mason
There it is. I'm adding a minute, by the way.
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Zack
a
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah The big day.
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Mason
We're going to do this in six minutes.
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Zack
Christmas.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There you go.
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Zack
um
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Zack
Large sock.
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stocking.
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Mason
Nice.
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Zack
Got him.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah The thing people do too early in the year.
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Zack
Christmas shop. Christmas.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
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Zack
um Decorate their house.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
To their house.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, so just that first word.
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Zack
Decorate.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There you go.
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Mason
nice
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Zack
Thing in living room.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
fireplace.
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Zack
um
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Mason
nice there is we'll give it to him
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
couch Tree ah Something that you put outside your house where you come through every day Right so what yep
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Zack
ah Alive. Uh-huh. Yeah. Let me get it to him.
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Zack
door wreath something under tree for
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Presence presence
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Zack
it's another word.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
gifts.
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Zack
Uh huh.
00:17:10
Mason
There it is. This is tough. I did not realize how hard this was going to be.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay, here we go. a Blank tree. My blank tree.
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Zack
Christmas.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Zack
Um, Evergreen.
00:17:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You would think, no, just just think about the the time of year and and what's what's important.
00:17:34
Zack
Pine.
00:17:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This one's impossible.
00:17:39
Zack
Jesus.
00:17:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
00:17:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The people closest to you.
00:17:45
Zack
Family.
00:17:46
Mason
There it is.
00:17:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There you go.
00:17:50
Zack
Um, ooh.
00:17:55
Zack
This is...
00:17:59
Zack
shepherd crook shaped flavor tins likes in coffee yeah
00:18:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
okay
00:18:08
Mason
This is way harder than I thought it was gonna be.
00:18:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:18:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. Peppermint or candy cane, candy cane.
00:18:19
Mason
There it is.
00:18:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. Oh, this is the same kind of thing. Like what what is that?
00:18:27
Mason
that
00:18:28
Zack
No, we suck peppermint.
00:18:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but what is a peppermint?
00:18:35
Zack
Candy peppermint.
00:18:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Just, just that one word candy.
00:18:40
Zack
Great work.
00:18:41
Mason
So that was six minutes.
00:18:43
Zack
Yeah. Well, you didn't get it for sure.
00:18:43
Mason
I added a minute. Yeah.
00:18:45
Zack
but yeah Well, your mouth now you've definitely.
00:18:46
Mason
So when Tinsley was looking at family, it has, you can't say mother, father, brother, sister, relatives. I was like, how is he going to say that one?
00:18:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and
00:18:57
Mason
There's these are tough.
00:18:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I cooked right there. That was fine.
00:18:59
Mason
You did cook.
00:18:59
Zack
You cooked.
00:19:00
Mason
Yeah. Should we keep it going? And we'll cut into our. Our football talk.
00:19:05
Zack
That was, you know, I think we just suck. Do you think that was good content?
00:19:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's no limit of football talk.
00:19:10
Zack
Do people like that?
00:19:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Let us know in the chat if you like that or not.
00:19:13
Zack
I can't wait for the feedback. Do you want word tapping in the show?
00:19:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're the first ever podcast that just plays taboo every episode.
00:19:24
Mason
who Listen, I didn't hate it. I was but as I saw the words and I was still I Was enjoying it.
00:19:28
Zack
and Mason was engaged.
00:19:33
Mason
I didn't have to do any of that. So That was good
00:19:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, before we started, I told Mason, I was like, Mason, since you have the list, why don't you try and get us to guess the words? He's like, that's too much work for me.
00:19:47
Mason
I just, if I can get them to do all of it, I can just sit here.
00:19:47
Zack
He's like, wait a minute.
00:19:51
Zack
Why would I do it?
00:19:54
Mason
I was monitoring and I had to keep up with the timer. So a
00:19:58
Zack
Wow, that's
00:19:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
Family Traditions on Christmas
00:19:59
Zack
crazy.
00:19:59
Mason
lot of work.
00:20:00
Mason
All right. So how many total did we get? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11.
00:20:05
Zack
24.
00:20:08
Mason
Which one, what did you get to who had Santa Claus? Oh, that was Zach. Um, how far did you get?
00:20:15
Zack
I got to the last row.
00:20:17
Mason
Okay. So 12 and 11 23.
00:20:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there I got the candy. Had five left.
00:20:30
Mason
Good work everybody. And that was, uh, this segment of Mason's Christmas special, AKA taboo.
00:20:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um. When. Do you guys open gifts on Christmas Eve?
00:20:50
Zack
Not like within my own group. We usually... mean we'll well We're gonna do like my wife's dad's and stuff on Christmas Eve, so we'll do that stuff.
00:21:03
Zack
But not like our own stuff.
00:21:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:05
Mason
Yeah. So when we were younger, sorry, Zach, go ahead.
00:21:06
Zack
We wait.
00:21:09
Zack
No, that I was just gonna say, we usually wait until...
00:21:10
Mason
Okay. Yeah. When we were younger, we used to get to pick one gift to open on Christmas Eve and then the rest of them was Christmas day.
00:21:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah What if you picked like your big ultimate cool gift Mm
00:21:18
Mason
Now that we're like,
00:21:23
Mason
I think they limited, yeah, they didn't put those out yet. ah So yeah, it was kind of in the middle.
00:21:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
-hmm
00:21:28
Mason
It's like the strategy we were talking about, but it's like the the middle of the pack gifts you got to pick out. But now we do, so my family, we always do Christmas on Christmas Eve.
00:21:41
Mason
So if it's anything with my family, we'll do it on Christmas Eve and then ah my wife's family's on
Football Weekend Analysis
00:21:48
Mason
Christmas day. So how about you, Tans?
00:21:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, no, we just do everything Christmas day. No, no early gifts.
00:21:55
Mason
Yep. No early, not a single one.
00:21:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope.
00:21:59
Zack
Yeah, i'm ah I'm with that.
00:22:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, are you, did you find Morgan just came in here? I, I told it on you about the Santa stuff live on the pod. Just so you know. It's fine.
00:22:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We saved it. Not we, me. Well, I had to back you up.
00:22:16
Zack
It's the intervention.
00:22:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So it's a good thing you told me your story. Cause I had to regurgitate it to her. She a awake. no
00:22:23
Mason
I love how this is live on the pond.
00:22:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
okay do you think i moved
00:22:25
Zack
Let's get Macie on live and ask her how, what her reaction was to it.
00:22:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
we yeah Okay wake Macy up tell her I have questions for her on the pod maddie's awake she's in there screaming in there Wife didn't realize we're recording a podcast.
00:22:42
Zack
All right, everybody, we are going to transition. We're going to transition this talk.
00:22:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She's still just talking to me about random stuff. I You usually don't acknowledge me.
00:22:52
Mason
He started muting it and then it was just like five seconds of nothing.
00:22:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry. She was, she kept talking to me. I was like, i looked i do you know I'm recording a podcast right now?
00:23:03
Zack
Well, um speaking of disappointment. Despair, dismay, all of your hopes and dreams being crushed.
00:23:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:23:15
Zack
Uh, the rest of football this weekend.
00:23:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:23:21
Zack
And, uh, boy, what, what if I'm very excited to talk about this really fun game that happened last night.
00:23:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think the world's eyes are on you right now, Zach.
00:23:31
Zack
Um, boy, the takes are just truly all over the place to a dangerous degree right now. Um,
00:23:42
Zack
I think it would not be as bad if, if the Tennessee fan base had talked so much trash to everybody and did the whole like, I mean, which was fun.
00:23:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Kneeling North.
00:23:50
Mason
Mmm.
00:23:51
Zack
I mean, it was, there was a lot of Tennessee fans there. If there was a winner on the weekend, it was Tennessee fans because I feel like and even nationally, even though we all look really stupid after the game started, people respected that.
00:24:04
Zack
Like they went to the links we did to, to travel and to do the whole thing. Um, I've got a couple takes about the golf ball playoff. First of all, the first take is. Boy, Tennessee just got beaten pretty much every single facet of the game, like. ah Literally every position down the board just got beat. Including coaching. um Like name name of position group in Tennessee got outplayed there every single one. um Even quarterback, which Nico played, played a great game. He did everything he could, but still it it was not enough.
00:24:41
Zack
um Line of scrimmage was a just a dumpster fire both sides Corners the the second Tennessee secondary just got absolutely wrecked by a couple of freshmen and young wide receivers for Ohio State Ohio State running backs went all over them I'll say defense just pretty much shut down all of the wide receivers apparently Um, it did not help. It's going to sound like I'm an excuse territory here. Uh, boy, the Tennessee's, um, basically other than Nico, your, your top three offensive players all get injured. And and then it's like, what are you, what are you supposed to, your, your sec offensive player of the year takes two, like two rushes. And then he's down and Dylan Sampson, your top two wide receivers who have been like production wiser down squirrel white Dante Thornton gets banged up.
00:25:34
Zack
I mean, you're you're down with all the transfers. I mean, you're basically, you're down to some of your fifth, sixth, seventh string wide receivers going into the game against the secondary. That includes some of the best, the best safety in the country probably and elite talent. It was just, it was pretty much done from the first quarter. It it was gross. There's a pretty pathetic showing from everyone involved.
00:26:03
Zack
I've got some takes, but the whole situation. Um, let's start here. I've really got three takeaways about the playoffs. My first takeaway is I think I'm not saying this needs to be changed, but home field advantage is like overpowered. It's crazy in this situation. We, we know how big home field advantages and college football as a whole.
00:26:30
Zack
ah But you saw it in full effect in these playoff games. It seems like a lot of the away teams just never really had a chance to compete with that kind of environment on the road. There's a reason that like March Madness is at neutral sites.
00:26:42
Zack
um
00:26:45
Zack
I mean, obviously NFL plays home playoff games, which is fun. And so I'm not saying you should take it away. Because I think, I mean, it obviously if Tennessee had hosted, I think the game would have at least been more competitive.
00:26:57
Zack
if it had been a kneeling instead of Ohio State. But I think it's extremely valuable. I think there's going to be, I think it's going to be a rally next year where. um Or at some point, if they expand it where all top eight teams are going to get to host, because I think it's a fun environment there. Number two, I think this is probably a huge piece of the puzzle. Are you guys familiar with the blue chip ratio?
00:27:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes. I know.
00:27:28
Zack
You right It's like so blue chip is four or five stars.
00:27:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know. I know what it means. Like how many more blue chip players, five star players one team has above the other.
00:27:31
Mason
Thank you.
00:27:37
Mason
yeah
00:27:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're just talking about roster.
00:27:39
Zack
Yeah, it's basically what percentage of your roster is made up of four or five star recruits Do you know number one in the country is So how I stay 90 percent of their roster is made up of four or five star recruits Tennessee is at 46 percent
00:27:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. I would say is Ohio state. Yeah.
00:28:00
Zack
I mean, so that means for every one four or five star Tennessee has, Ohio State has two. I mean, literally double. um
00:28:08
Mason
Is there a list and do you have a list in front of you?
00:28:10
Zack
I do have a list in fact.
00:28:11
Mason
Cause I'm curious. Oh, sweet. Awesome.
00:28:12
Zack
um Number two is Alabama. Number three is Georgia at 80%. A and&M at 79%, Oregon 76%, Oklahoma 73%, what a weird one. um Texas 72%, LSU 70%, Notre Dame 67%, Clemson 64%, some other ones of note, Penn State's at 61% as well. So of the teams left in the playoff, there are eight teams left, six of them have a greater than 50% blue chip ratio.
00:28:50
Zack
That would be Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Texas, Notre Dame, and Penn State. The two that don't. Boise State and Arizona State.
00:28:59
Mason
Hmm.
00:29:00
Zack
Boise State was mentioned a few times yesterday and I just completely forgot they were part of this thing at this point. Same with Arizona State. I was like, what the heck? um Obviously those teams, if you want a surefire bet, I would just bet against those guys because um here's the staff that everyone kind of talks about.
00:29:16
Zack
Um, since 2011, every single national champion has had a greater than 50% blue chip ratio. Every single one for the past 13 years. Um, I mean, that is what it is. Tennessee's is not that I think apparently in 2025 next year will be the first year since Fulmer where we do have a above 50% blue chip ratio. Um,
00:29:47
Zack
And we had mean we had a walk on with the pick. I mean, obviously, blue chip ratio is not everything. But when when you're talking about the numbers, it means it means something. um
Future of College Playoffs
00:29:57
Zack
And it kind of goes into the third thing, which is. I think it's not really possible for there to be like a Cinderella team in this in college football, like there is college basketball.
00:30:08
Zack
college basketball, you get a you get a team hot from three and they're just hitting everything. It's they can make a run versus college football where you have to be deep at every position. You can't have one guy take over. You can't just skip. There's no flu key wins and in college football like that. You've got to put a full game together against the roster that's built It's just not really going to happen. So I'm just going to tell you right now Arizona State and Boise State are just they just do not have a shot at this at this point. Shout out to Notre Dame. Shout out to Penn State. They they won their games pretty convincingly. And I think it just goes to show some of that same stuff. I mean, I think.
00:30:49
Zack
they're just better, they're athletically much better. And while I was watching the game yesterday versus Ohio State, it was just abundantly clear to me the talent difference between Ohio State and Tennessee. And it's not everything, obviously there's upsets, but when it comes down to it, just watching Ohio State play football, it was like a different caliber of athlete out there compared to what Tennessee had and on the offensive line or had in the secondary. They were just completely outclassed.
00:31:18
Zack
So there's my takes. Shout out to all the teams moving on. Some fun games next week. I'm sure we'll talk about them eventually. But that's where I'm at.
00:31:29
Zack
You know, football's fun, guys.
00:31:32
Mason
Real quick.
00:31:32
Zack
If anyone ever says anything, get your hopes up and always um just be excited about the next one, you know.
00:31:32
Mason
um
00:31:39
Mason
Just to give you an idea of how excited Zach was to talk about all this and the group text we had this morning, he said, boys, I'm not mentally prepared for this college football segment tonight. Going to be a tragedy.
00:31:50
Mason
Cancel all sports.
00:31:53
Mason
And then he said, can't believe Tennessee got snubbed from the playoffs this year.
00:31:55
Zack
That's true.
00:31:58
Zack
Yeah, I started coming alternate reality in my brain where Tennessee didn't play that game last night. And instead I could sit here and just complain about how the committee screwed us over.
00:32:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was Alabama.
00:32:09
Zack
I think it would have been a better situation.
00:32:15
Zack
But that's why they play the game. You know, I really didn't expect it happening.
00:32:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:18
Zack
I came on the show and predicted a close game with low scoring affair. It was not that.
00:32:24
Mason
Can I say one thing?
00:32:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:24
Zack
For whatever reason, I don't know.
00:32:25
Mason
Yeah, my take is before kickoff, I was enjoying every second of it.
00:32:26
Zack
Yes.
00:32:30
Mason
The offensive line out there with no shirts on, like in the cold, the fan, like all the things you saw about the Tennessee chatter, I was enjoying every second of it until kickoff happened.
00:32:41
Mason
And then it was just downhill from there, so.
00:32:47
Zack
Truly, it didn't last long.
00:32:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Alright.
00:32:48
Zack
It was like sixth place, and I was like, oh, this is not good.
00:32:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:50
Mason
Yeah, all right.
00:32:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That that is the big difference in college football. Those the Jimmys and Joes like.
00:32:56
Zack
Yep.
00:32:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Do you have the players? Because if not, it shows up pretty quick.
00:33:03
Zack
When you're playing a team with with those guys, and I mean, Ohio State is not. I will I will say that the difference between the Ohio State that lost to Michigan and the one that played us yesterday is shocking.
00:33:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:16
Zack
The game plan, the coaching, it's like two different football teams, and so there is always a reality where a team just comes out. I mean, I mentioned Alabama is like the second highest in the country and they lost to Oklahoma, who was actually in the top five as well.
00:33:31
Zack
You know, it's down the list Vanderbilt shots of Vanderbilt. I wonder what their blue chip ratio is beat Alabama.
00:33:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
gotta be pretty bad
00:33:38
Zack
It's probably horrible, but yeah.
00:33:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, I mean, that's that's the surprising thing about Ohio State is that they are consistently one of the most loaded rosters in college football, and they've they just never really seem to get out of their own way. um And that's why I kind of um we talked about it. I thought they would kind of turtle up and take that Michigan loss a lot harder than they obviously did. It looks like they actually mentally bounced back from it and.
00:34:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah You know, showed what they're capable of last night. I mean, they, they've now jumped up to second favorite to win the whole thing behind Texas, which I don't, I know that was a good win for Texas and everything, but I don't know that they beat a Clemson team that hadn't beaten anybody good all year.
00:34:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like their signature win was SMU who got Molly walked by Penn state.
00:34:32
Mason
um
00:34:36
Zack
correct Correct.
00:34:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I don't know why Texas is sitting there in number one. Oregon's being slept on. Like Oregon's just being disrespected nonstop. They got the worst draw.
00:34:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and i And now they're down like fourth favorite to win the whole thing. Like they're not even being given a chance next week against Ohio State.
00:34:55
Zack
What's that line next week? got I was about to just go look up.
00:34:56
Mason
Oh, no.
00:34:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I don't know I bet it's Ohio State minus one and a half because because Oregon because Oregon beat him by one at home so Neutral field I bet two and a half Ohio State Yeah Yeah, so that's the thing they're saying home field advantage last time for Oregon was worth three points and they still only won by one point so I
00:35:04
Zack
You think?
00:35:10
Zack
Two and a half Well, it's in California which is gonna be basically be I Mean it's much much much closer to Oregon Georgia is one and a half point favorites over Notre Dame and
00:35:11
Mason
Two and a half. Yeah. You can get Oregon at plus money for the money line.
00:35:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ohio State does have.
00:35:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm smashing Georgia. I don't care that they have the backup quarterback in.
00:35:38
Zack
Um, Holy cow. Yeah. You want to see about these games and what people think about it. Penn state minus 11 against Boise state, Texas minus 14 against Arizona state.
00:35:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Against Boise State, yeah.
00:35:52
Mason
Mm.
00:35:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Now it's tough.
00:35:58
Zack
What a fun second round game we have.
00:36:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That is where just more of the transfer portal and recruiting, I think as the years go, we'll see something more like the NFL where it's a little bit more balanced. I think every year we'll get a little bit less of these blowouts. I think as long as we keep putting a non-power five school in like Boise State, they'll always be a really bad game. Because I mean, as good as Boise State is, they have what? One player probably going to be on an NFL roster next year, if I had to guess.
00:36:35
Zack
Yeah.
00:36:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and it's the Heisman Trophy candidate running back.
00:36:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, I don't know, it it wasn't, he'll be a first round running back.
00:36:40
Zack
Definitely. Is he going to get drafted, you think? Is Jinty going to get drafted?
00:36:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's relatively young, doesn't have a lot of carries.
00:36:46
Zack
I don't know.
00:36:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cowboys will be dumb enough to draft in the first round. It's a very cowboy thing.
00:36:54
Mason
I hope he doesn't go there.
00:36:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a very cowboy thing to do.
00:36:58
Mason
I tanked in one of my dynasty leagues so I could get him first overall pick. Do you think I'll be the automatic in like fantasy?
00:37:05
Zack
Wow.
00:37:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, quarterback quarter quarterbacks are the number one overall pick in dynasty leagues.
00:37:12
Mason
I know, but our are quality of quarterbacks this year is kind of, we'll see what happens.
00:37:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You don't want to draft Shador Sanders going to the Giants to be teamed up with the neighbors for the next 10 years.
00:37:26
Mason
Giants have we'll talk about first Who's who's number one?
00:37:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Malik, Malik neighbors second best wide receiver in this just draft.
00:37:27
Zack
about.
00:37:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, he's he's having a great rookie year. Second best wide receiver of this draft. ah Brian Thomas jr. The one who's leading rookies in receiving yards receiving touchdowns almost at 1,100 yards right now That's not even just like leading rookies he's like one of the leading receivers It only took ours only took our stupid coaches 12 weeks to start throwing the ball more than five times a game idiots and
00:37:46
Mason
He was able to throw that in there real quick Hmm
00:37:50
Zack
Wow. The Jags are back.
00:38:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Anywho, but yeah, no, I mean, if you wanna draft a running back first overall in Dynasty, that's that the that's what you tanked for.
00:38:10
Mason
the
00:38:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You go for it, big guy.
00:38:19
Zack
Double thank.
00:38:19
Mason
I mean, I did it with Bijon Robinson one time. Well, I didn't tank. I just took a league that I think I had the second pick. And now and that didn't that didn't go bad for me.
00:38:31
Mason
I don't know how we started. I went off on our rabbit hole here on fantasy.
00:38:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's just a very, I don't know. It's a surprising dynasty pick a running back first overall.
00:38:39
Mason
I guess say if you're if you're settled on quarterbacks, like I have
00:38:40
Zack
Oh, what an idiot.
00:38:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I guess so.
00:38:43
Mason
I think I have Lamar and I don't know, I have to check, but I think I'm pretty settled on quarterbacks in that league. That's all I was thinking about going with. Okay.
00:38:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:38:53
Mason
Anyways, back to you guys.
00:38:57
Zack
There were some other games.
00:38:58
Mason
Oh, what is that? No close games.
00:39:00
Zack
Unfortunately, none of them were very competitive. Yeah, we'll we can do a quick recap here.
00:39:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Every home. Every home team covered.
00:39:06
Zack
The what? Every home game covered.
00:39:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Every home team covered. Yeah.
00:39:11
Zack
Yeah, me and Tins both. We both go two and two in our picks.
00:39:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think so.
00:39:15
Zack
Yeah, tough. We both missed out Indiana Notre Dame. Notre Dame won by 10. It was never really that close, to be honest. If you watch the game, it wasn't even that close. 27-17.
00:39:27
Zack
Notre Dame, they looked pretty good. They looked pretty good.
00:39:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wait, you said we both missed. I thought we both took Notre Dame.
00:39:34
Zack
No, I picked Indiana.
00:39:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I took another name.
00:39:37
Zack
OK, so I'll make that one.
00:39:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think I had another name in Penn State were my two That I won Because because I took Clemson and Tennessee those are my two underdogs I rode with
00:39:41
Zack
Yeah, OK. Maybe I just suck. I know I won two of them.
00:39:50
Zack
OK, I took Texas.
00:39:52
Mason
Hmm.
00:39:53
Zack
And Penn State.
00:39:56
Zack
OK, so um anyways, Notre Dame wins. Pretty easily moving on to the second round. Clemson, Texas, Clemson kind of hung around in this game.
00:40:07
Zack
They made it to one possession kind of late. They did not, they they kept taking the punches, but Texas at the end of the day just pulled out um and and took the win.
00:40:19
Zack
I mean, Clemson was like, had the ball on the goal line with a few minutes left to go down, back down to one score. And it was tight, tight. And Texas had a goal on stand and then just kept getting first downs and just ran the clock out.
00:40:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, just couldn't punch it in.
00:40:33
Zack
um Yeah.
00:40:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The thing they Clemson show that Texas run or a pass defense is not very strong because Clay club Nick kind of diced him up a little bit and. um But Texas run game was out of this world like they they were popping up like every time they would get.
00:40:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Texas to like a third and short situation. Texas is running back would pop off a 15 yard run. And that's kind of was the difference in the game. So um like I said, I think Texas is Texas has some holes. I don't know why they're ranked number one right now to win the whole thing on all the sports books. um You said they're playing Arizona State next week.
00:41:12
Zack
That's why it's because they've, I mean, they're basically Penn state, Penn state and Texas are basically assured.
00:41:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Their path is just so easy.
00:41:18
Zack
It's in my final spots.
00:41:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, um I might take a chance on Arizona State's to cover the spread, but I don't have a lot of faith in that right now.
00:41:21
Zack
with there
00:41:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I do think Quinn Ewers is going to come back to college football. I don't think he's going to enter the draft.
00:41:35
Zack
Really take 4 million.
00:41:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think he's going to. I think he's going to take one of that four million and just play another year college football.
00:41:44
Zack
Why not?
00:41:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's seen himself get dropped so far into the draft boards like.
00:41:46
Zack
I feel like he's... He feels like a bow next type.
00:41:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not helping himself.
00:41:52
Zack
I feel like he's similar to bow next in kind of his path. He's like a pretty good college quarterback.
00:41:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I think Bo Bo went back.
00:41:59
Zack
If his mind's a good system, he'll be good.
00:42:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Bo went back for one last year at Oregon and really kind of jumped himself back up.
00:42:08
Zack
Yeah.
00:42:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So maybe he could do that. ah Because if he goes in the draft right now, he's going to be a second third round pick to the Tennessee Titans.
00:42:17
Mason
Don't you dare do, you know what you're doing.
00:42:18
Zack
this sky on my face
00:42:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So it's going to happen though.
00:42:21
Mason
Get him out of my face he says.
00:42:23
Zack
Okay, last game was the least interesting game. It was not competitive at all. There'll be SMU Penn State.
00:42:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I stopped watching this game.
00:42:32
Zack
I turned this one off as well.
00:42:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was watching the chief's game.
00:42:34
Zack
It was not worth my time. It was just pretty bad. um
00:42:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. SMU just never liked their quarterback choked in the big moment, kept throwing picks.
00:42:45
Zack
It was truly like, you kind of started feeling bad for him. A couple pick sixes, he just kept making mistakes, after mistake, after mistake.
00:42:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:42:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But. That's the thing, Penn State had they played Tennessee in that first round, do they win? I mean, that their offense didn't look good.
00:43:02
Zack
I don't know, Tennessee looks so bad.
00:43:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They will. Penn State's defense scored 14 points.
00:43:08
Zack
That is a fact.
00:43:09
Mason
Hmm.
00:43:10
Zack
They won 38 to 10.
00:43:13
Zack
I mean SMU looked like they were in a different league.
00:43:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah.
00:43:16
Zack
but But again, if you don't throw a couple pick sixes and your quarterback plays decent, that game is different probably. so But they're just not a very competitive game there. So overall, um I think the the take machine out there is saying that we didn't need 12 teams.
00:43:36
Zack
None of these games were very competitive. We could have stuck with eight and been fine.
00:43:43
Zack
Blah blah blah. It's gonna be out there. You do hate that at least one of them wasn't fun to watch.
00:43:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:50
Zack
Because none of them were. You really thought Tennessee was gonna come back in the second half and was gonna make it a classic and be close. It didn't happen, but I don't like it was gonna happen.
00:43:58
Mason
Zach, the quite intense yeah I got the question for both of you. do they Do you think they change how they pick teams next year? Do they go or change the structure of it?
00:44:10
Mason
Because this is a learning curve, right? so do you put um who who did we Who did we say that could have made more of a, besides Alabama, who could have made this a little more interesting?
00:44:21
Mason
A lot of SEC teams were thrown out, but
00:44:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, South Carolina was thrown out there Ole Miss, but you
00:44:27
Mason
but like Do you change the structure? Do you get rid of like SMU? or do you like
00:44:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You can't you can't panelize a team at SMU. Now SMU had a very easy schedule and they talked about that on the broadcast as far as the see the worst thing that that could have happened is the first year of the 12 team playoff. In my opinion is also the first year where we have these super conferences where everyone kind of moved around and then you had the Oregon and you know Oregon USC UCLA all joined the Big 10. You had all these random teams joined the ACC and so it's like does that same SMU team who's playing in the American conference get into the playoffs?
00:45:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, they don't. Because that's the conference that came from. And that would have left room for a different like Miami would have been in because they would have been second the ACC if SMU wasn't there.
00:45:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You know what I mean? So it's like we these conferences have kind of
00:45:19
Zack
yeah
00:45:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like it's kind of it's so top-heavy now where a team like Texas who I think has I'm just ragging on Texas now But they had a very easy SEC schedule. They've kind of had it easy They're gonna have easy walk into the playoffs like who have they played all year long?
00:45:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And so I don't know right Georgia twice and they lost um So I don't know how they would do it differently going forward
00:45:38
Zack
Georgia, twice.
00:45:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i Think strength of schedule has to play a part in it. I think scheduling has to be better team like Indiana Their only real game was against Ohio State. They lost it um But you also can't penalize a team for playing their schedule and winning the games they're supposed to win So, I don't i don't know how they do it differently Yeah for the conference winner, yeah
00:46:04
Zack
It's true. I mean, I think the the the easiest, the easy change I think that will happen next year is they're taking out the automatic buy will be gone. Top four teams will be the top four teams, and it's going to do away with some of this mess, like ah with some of this first round nonsense that we had this year.
00:46:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:46:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because Ohio State would have been a top four seed, you would think.
00:46:28
Zack
Maybe, but at the very least, a team like Tennessee would be hosting.
00:46:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:46:33
Zack
um
00:46:35
Zack
And maybe SMU still makes it, but they're probably going to lose on the road in the first round. um I think the thing that the biggest thing is it's going to take away these second round matchups that we have, like this Boise State, Arizona State, that are just going to get dog walked likely.
00:46:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:46:55
Zack
um If, I think that it'll be kind of more like college basketball where the AC or, you know, these, these conferences can get an automatic bid to the playoffs, but not a buy.
00:47:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:11
Zack
So like the ACC winner, the the big 12 winner get, ah they get a, bot they get a bid, but they're going to be in a 10, 11, 12 seed. They're going to have to do something miraculous on the road to go to the second round.
00:47:24
Zack
Versus right now where they get a bye and then I mean it's just putting off their their fate a little bit, but It's making for some pretty lopsided round two matchups where you would like those matchups to be closer to what you see for Ohio State, Oregon In the Notre Dame ah Georgia where it's something more competitive so
00:47:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. I think that's I think let's do that change and then kind of go from there. This is gonna be a learning experience as we go, but I do think that's a big one um because that really.
00:47:55
Zack
There's going to be talks about 14 teams. There's going to be talks about 16 teams.
00:47:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:00
Zack
I mean, I think that's where it's going to land eventually is 16.
00:48:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think yeah, I think we get to 16.
00:48:03
Zack
No buys. I think that's the reality.
00:48:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm. I agree.
00:48:09
Zack
You're adding four extra games wherever.
00:48:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but That's Yeah, it's a couple, I think that's a couple of years down the road. Um, but I think this actually, this will probably push that narrative harder. It's like, well, this first round wasn't very competitive.
00:48:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Let's expand it. Let's expand it and add more teams. Let's get Miami. Let's get my, let's get Alabama. Like let's add these two, like if they were both in it and Ole Miss and South Carolina, those are just the four teams top of my head where I think those would have been the next four in, they could have added a a better.
00:48:35
Zack
yeah Yeah.
00:48:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
match up, um, maybe a more competitive game across the board.
00:48:43
Zack
Could be. I mean, it's hard for me to talk about it right now with I mean, it's easier to talk about it before your team gets just absolutely wrecked, like on the road. And then all your arguments feel a little bit less.
00:48:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
hu
00:48:56
Zack
They feel worse. Talking about who should have got in and blow SEC blow blow blow after you just got blown out by a Big 10 team.
00:48:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:49:04
Zack
But
00:49:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:49:05
Zack
Um, I mean, the reality is Ohio State's very good team who had no business losing in Michigan.
00:49:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I shouldn't have ever lost to Michigan.
00:49:11
Zack
They did. And it set up a pretty bad matchup for Tennessee in the first round there.
00:49:19
Zack
Yeah, I think there's changes for sure. I think the semi-finals are going to be competitive, and I think it's going to be fun. I think this was a weird year where there just weren't a lot of dominant teams. um It's been said, and I think it's true. I think Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia, maybe Texas, maybe Notre Dame, possibly, or are good. And then there's a lot of teams that are just kind of, OK, on the given day, they can beat anybody, but also it could lose to anybody. Tennessee's in that boat, I think.
00:49:47
Zack
um That's what it is.
NFL Playoff Scenarios
00:49:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Yeah.
00:49:55
Zack
That's Dallas.
00:49:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, that's Dallas baby. So yeah, I think that is, I don't know. I think that's everything for the first round. I know I'm going to be, I'm going to be diving in looking at these match-ups for the second round, try and find some bets and all that for the next episode.
00:50:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but I think for college football, unless we want to dive into the transfer portal and the recruiting trails, Zach, I don't know.
00:50:21
Zack
I do not.
00:50:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I couldn't anyway. Even if you wanted to, I would just be sitting here. I can't i can't and don't have the brain capacity to do transfer portal. I just wait for the spring practices to start and then I kind of figure out who's who's where.
00:50:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And even then, it doesn't matter.
00:50:38
Zack
It's a mess.
00:50:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:50:39
Zack
Yeah, it's truly a disaster out there on the street.
00:50:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll tell you this though. um Don't shun me from being a balls fan everyone, but as soon as the Heisman voting or as soon as the heisman odds get released for next season, I'm taking DJ Lagway.
00:50:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and All right, so anyway, um yeah, he he's he's a freak, he's a menace to society.
00:50:53
Zack
it's not bad
00:50:53
Mason
Hmm.
00:50:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. NFL Mason, do you, where, where, where lead us to where we want to go here? Cause I think there's, there's so much going on in the NFL, but there's also, it kind of feels like things are locked up.
00:51:06
Mason
Yes.
00:51:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We've got a bunch of teams already locked in playoff spots wise. Um, but there's still some, some intrigue. So, so where are we at right now? Cause the end of the season is getting crazy.
00:51:20
Mason
Yeah, so It's getting crazy as it usually is but we were talking before the Podcasts started about the playoff pictures a little bit and so for anybody because we had a lot of games a lot of wins um And it's shaken up things just a little bit ah So should I talk about the playoff picture and then we talk about what stands out to you tens?
00:51:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Love it.
00:51:46
Mason
Okay, so right now ah The teams that we have is the Chiefs, the Bills, the Steelers, Texans, Ravens. And in the hunt is the Chargers and Broncos on the bubble Colts, Dolphins, Bengals.
00:52:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:52:03
Mason
So let's see, who do we lock up real quick? I believe, yeah.
00:52:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Ravens have clinched a playoff spot.
00:52:10
Mason
Yep.
00:52:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
With their win on Saturday. um
00:52:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Bills have won their division.
00:52:16
Mason
And Bills did. Mm hmm.
00:52:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're competing for the one seed. The Steelers have not locked up a spot, right? Or have they? Have they clinched a spot in the playoffs?
00:52:30
Mason
On here, it looks like they have.
00:52:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:52:33
Mason
Yep.
00:52:35
Mason
And so the two.
00:52:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know the Chargers are like 90 something of percent.
00:52:40
Mason
Yeah, 95 and then Broncos are 78.
00:52:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I went to bed on Thursday night, that Thursday night game.
00:52:48
Mason
Yeah.
00:52:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Broncos were winning like 21 to three at halftime.
00:52:50
Mason
Crazy, crazy.
00:52:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And so I was like, whatever, I'm tired. Tatum's gonna get up here in a couple hours. So I'm gonna go ahead and go to sleep so I can take the next feeding and let Morgan sleep, right? I wake up to check the score.
00:53:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's DAGM 36 to 28. The Chargers win.
00:53:06
Mason
Hmm.
00:53:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was like, I took the Broncos.
00:53:09
Mason
Yeah.
00:53:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was like, oh wow, this is ridiculous. So the Chargers,
00:53:11
Mason
I want to see.
00:53:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
one year turnaround under Jim Harbaugh is amazing.
00:53:16
Mason
Yeah, crazy.
00:53:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because this is a team that was chock full of talent. Justin Herbert is a very talented quarterback. And it just took a coach coming in and just being a normal human instead of Brandon Staley being this weird analytic, go for it on fourth and four in my own territory weirdo.
00:53:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And now look at him.
00:53:39
Mason
Now look at him So that when jumped him up big time, I don't know what it was beforehand But now they're looking like they're in control of their own destiny going into it.
00:53:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're of the they're like in the locker room singing. He's a jolly good fellow and just Harbaugh man. He's a football guy Okay
00:53:57
Mason
So um We could talk about any other hot takes or predictions, but let's do the nfc next and then we can do it overall like to sum up the whole plot picture but Who's clinched a playoff spot so far?
00:54:12
Mason
The Lions, the Eagles, the Vikings. This one gets a little messier. um Now we have ah the Rams has just been on terror, man. It's been crazy. But ah Rams, if it was to end today, we have the Rams, Bucks, Packers and Commanders.
00:54:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What's that?
00:54:28
Mason
And they had their last second. Jane Daniels threw that. Did you see that to to win the game against the Eagles?
00:54:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Crazy game today, Eagles and Washington. Jalen Hurts gets hurt early in the game.
00:54:41
Mason
Mm.
00:54:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So you had a Kenny Pickett, Kenny Pickett game, but they still Eagles were winning with like um less than a minute left.
00:54:45
Mason
Stuck it out for a little bit.
00:54:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, um, yeah, that commander's team, uh, another guy, another guy who turned around team quick, Dan Quinn, another true football guy came in.
00:54:58
Mason
Mm.
00:54:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And ah Nudy was talking about, hired a really good offensive staff, got Clint Kubiak, not Clint Kubiak, Cliff Kingsbury, and there's offensive coordinator, and he's built a really good offense for Jayden. So, ah yeah, cliff Cliff and Dan Quinn have really turned around the commanders there.
00:55:15
Mason
I feel like you throw out these coaches names like ah you're wishing for them to wear teal next year.
00:55:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What?
00:55:24
Mason
Possibly. I don't know.
00:55:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
makes it Mason brings up the Jaguars more than I do.
00:55:28
Zack
He truly does.
00:55:28
Mason
No, you just.
00:55:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then he, he Mason baits me into doing that.
00:55:29
Zack
He's obsessed.
00:55:32
Mason
He makes comments like it'd be nice to have.
00:55:32
Zack
That being said, Tenz brings up the Titans more than anybody as well.
00:55:35
Mason
they Thank you, Zach, thank you.
00:55:37
Zack
Tenz, you brought up the Titans draft already today. You bring up the Titans more than anybody.
00:55:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
On this episode.
00:55:44
Zack
Mason brings up the Jags more than anybody.
00:55:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't.
00:55:46
Mason
I think it's just because I'm poking the bear.
00:55:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't saw this episode deal.
00:55:48
Mason
That's all it is.
00:55:49
Zack
Yes, you said something about...
00:55:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That was before this started. Oh, I did say when you were just getting.
00:55:51
Zack
you you talked about Quinn years getting drafted by the Titans.
00:55:53
Mason
There you go. Thank you, Zach.
00:55:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and second round, you're right. That is a Titan thing to do though, is it not?
00:55:58
Zack
He sends lots of titan related texts to the group as well. He finds hate stats.
00:56:03
Mason
so what
00:56:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm in a group text full of Titans fans. I'm just trying to talk to you guys.
00:56:07
Mason
So what I did, what I was doing was kind of poking at the bear, like what he does with me, he brings up the Titans knot cause he's a Titans fan, but just to like throw a little shade. And I was just doing like, he just, he's hoping for all these coaches.
00:56:19
Mason
Like he he made comments just like, it's nice when you can get somebody behind like that can coach an actual team. Like he's throwing shots at Dougie P with our actually throwing shots, but that's all he's doing.
00:56:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm just complimenting Jim Harbaugh. He's a football guy. You know, I don't know how he's cheating. Then I felt like he did an NCAA, but whatever he's doing, it's working.
00:56:39
Mason
Stallions on that team with him. Is that all? um
00:56:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, Connor Stallings is ah he's the defensive coordinator for the high school that just that has that quarterback that flipped from LSU to Michigan coincidence. I think not just know that.
00:56:54
Mason
That's crazy. No, I did not. I did see that there's a Netflix.
00:56:56
Zack
Is that real?
00:56:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's real.
00:56:58
Mason
I did see there's a ne next next flex. Special words are hard Netflix special about Connor Stallions. So I might have to check that out.
00:57:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That thing's, yeah, I watched it. It's lame.
00:57:08
Mason
Oh, it's bad.
00:57:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just, yeah.
00:57:10
Mason
Bummer. They just money grab. Is that all it was?
00:57:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They don't say anything. they don't They don't admit to anything.
00:57:14
Mason
Cool.
00:57:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They just try and show that he's innocent.
00:57:16
Mason
Yeah.
00:57:18
Mason
So on the outside looking in, Seahawks lost today against the Vikings, puts them on the outside.
00:57:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That one hurt him.
00:57:25
Mason
Yeah, and then ah the Falcons still you know grasping at a little bit of, and they play the Giants next week. Michael Penix didn't like do anything insane, but you know that defense stepped up and they got the win today, so.
00:57:40
Mason
I'm sorry. They played the Giants today, not next week.
00:57:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The. Yeah.
00:57:42
Mason
they um I was just looking out there. They play the Commanders next week.
00:57:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Falcons are very invested. Yeah, the Falcons are very invested in this Tampa Bay game going on right now, because if Tampa ends up losing, that ah really opens the door for the for the Falcons, especially because I think the the Bucks last two games are against the Saints and Panthers, so divisional games.
00:58:03
Mason
Hmm.
00:58:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So yeah, that AFC South is going to come down to it.
00:58:04
Mason
Yeah.
00:58:08
Mason
Yeah, that looks like the one that's, if they, their current, uh, what they're predicting, they're at a 60%. If they lose, they're at a 51. If they win, they're at an 88. So Falcons are huge.
00:58:21
Mason
They're huge, uh, Buccaneer fans, right?
00:58:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cowboy fans tonight.
00:58:24
Mason
Or Cowboy fans. Yeah. So. All right, anything that stands out with the playoff picture there? I think the the one for me that I'll let you go is just the the Rams, man. Literally like two or three weeks ago, they were on the outside and they made this run.
00:58:38
Mason
ah And I would, if they continue this, I would not want to play them in the first round of the playoffs. So that's my little, just something that sticks out to me.
00:58:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:58:48
Mason
NFC is a little more chaotic than the AFC, but yes, go ahead.
00:58:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're definitely team.
00:58:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I definitely agree. I think the Rams are a team right now. If you're a person who likes to take some long shots going into playoffs, Rams are definitely team to jump on. They've got a young defense that's kind of figured it out.
00:59:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Jared verse, defensive rookie of the year, future Friday check.
00:59:06
Mason
Mm.
00:59:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um That was plus 1000. I think me and Mason both gave that one out.
00:59:12
Mason
Mm, yeah.
00:59:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We both, we were, we were going to give out awards and ah for the season predictions. And we both, we didn't know we both liked verse. So, um we know ball just in case you guys were wondering ah Rams to win their division plus seven 15 check.
00:59:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah And then you don't want to play a team like that. Sean, or yeah, Sean McVeigh, amazing coach. um Matthew Stafford, veteran quarterback with them awesome weapons in Pukinakua and Cooper Cup. Kyron Williams, they're definitely a scary team, especially in the NFC that's The Eagles have questions with their passing game.
00:59:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like Jalen Hurts has kind of been up and down all season. The Lions are banged up. I know they dominated the Bears today, but the Lions are still pretty banged up on defense. And I don't know, the Vikings, like the Vikings are one of the better teams in the NFC.
01:00:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that team is still being being quarterbacked by Sam Darnold, who could turn into a pumpkin at any minute.
01:00:15
Mason
Hmm.
01:00:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, so I definitely, I like the Rams coming out of the NFC. I do have a question about the AFC. I don't know if you've got the numbers up in front of you, but what, what do the, what does, what happened?
01:00:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What has to happen for the Bengals to get into the playoffs?
01:00:33
Mason
Okay.
01:00:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because if the Bengals get into the playoffs strictly from their offense,
01:00:33
Mason
Let me, yeah, let me see. Oh, you're worried about them.
01:00:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, Joe Burrow can put up 40 points on you like if Joe Burrow's team didn't absolutely stink. He'd be an MVP candidate this year. He's going to pass for almost like a little over 5000 yards.
01:00:47
Mason
Yeah.
01:00:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to have like 40 something touchdowns.
01:00:55
Mason
So it looks like right now.
01:00:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And if you're the Bengals, just like look back at the like you lose your first game against the Patriots, you lose like you don't lose that game and you're probably right in the mix of the wild card right now.
01:01:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You lost a weird game against the Chargers on a Thursday night. Like the Bengals just have to be like what to like two games is the difference to where they could kind of control their own destiny. And then I know right now that they have to have some help to get in.
01:01:22
Mason
Yeah. So according to NFL dot.com, they have an 8% chance. The last two teams that we kind of talked about are the Chargers and the Broncos. Um, so it looks like you're, uh, I'm pulling up right now who they play next, both of those teams.
01:01:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:01:36
Zack
I've got some scenarios here.
01:01:39
Mason
Okay.
01:01:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Beautiful.
01:01:40
Mason
Shoot it.
01:01:40
Zack
um um Baltimore clinched a playoff spot. The Broncos and Chargers did not clinch a spot this week. The Bengals need to win out in order to make the postseason, along with either the Broncos losing out. OK, sorry, this is what this article is poorly written. It looks like they need to the Broncos to lose out.
01:02:05
Zack
when and Cincinnati plays Denver in week 17. So they have to, so that helps a little bit.
01:02:12
Mason
So they play them
Coaching Changes in NFL
01:02:13
Mason
next week and then the Broncos also play the Chiefs, which you they may be looking at back up central on the Chiefs roster with them being 14 and one right now.
01:02:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they really needed the Chiefs to lose that game against the Texans on Saturday because that would have made the Chiefs have to keep Trying to win to get that one seed Yeah, but the Patriots Patriots aren't tanking Patriots are they're feisty fe almost beat the bills today
01:02:24
Mason
um
01:02:33
Mason
Shoo and the Chargers. Yeah, the Chargers played the Patriots and the Raiders. They're both battling and they're both 3 and 12 right now Yikes, so the Chargers have a great rule
01:02:49
Zack
Okay, so let me see.
01:02:55
Zack
Oh, okay. Here's, here's the real scenario. Sorry. The first article I read was trash. Ingalls have to win out. Broncos have to lose out. Some means they have to lose to the Chiefs. Dolphins have to lose at least one game. That would be either at the Browns or at the Jets. The Dolphins can't reach nine wins.
01:03:18
Zack
Uh, Colts have to lose at least one more game. They play at the Giants and they play versus the Jaguars.
01:03:26
Zack
And that's it.
01:03:30
Mason
Yeah, that makes sense because the Colts and the Dolphins are ahead of them on this.
01:03:30
Zack
Colts lose the game. Dolphins lose the game. Broncos lose to the Chiefs and then the Bengals went out.
01:03:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, I want the Bengals to get in.
01:03:40
Mason
It's a lot that has to happen.
01:03:41
Zack
So the Jags need to beat the Colts.
01:03:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just for the pure chaos.
01:03:44
Zack
Week 18.
01:03:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh.
01:03:46
Mason
I had a Joe Burrow MVP ticket.
01:03:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We sure do like ruining the cult seasons.
01:03:50
Zack
True.
01:03:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's happened before.
01:03:51
Zack
And dolphins need to drop to the Browns or the Jets.
01:03:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm. Well, it's not gonna happen against the Browns with DTR quarterback, because that guy sucks.
01:04:01
Zack
But Jamie's back in.
01:04:03
Mason
Put them back in, give them a second chance.
01:04:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, honestly, put Jamis back in because DTR is terrible.
01:04:04
Zack
Howard, what are these people doing? They're trying to keep my guy down.
01:04:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. What are they trying to figure out with DTR? Like, are they trying to figure out if he's the quarterback of the future?
01:04:11
Zack
sure Do you think James will come work for the pod?
01:04:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because I could have told you before the game, he's definitely not.
01:04:19
Mason
Let's get them on.
01:04:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think ah if we pull all of our salaries together, we could get him for about 30 minutes.
01:04:24
Zack
Yeah, a day would be good.
01:04:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to get a lot of money to be on TV.
01:04:29
Mason
as the
01:04:31
Zack
Do you think people are going to like what network will be on?
01:04:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
huh He's perfect.
01:04:36
Zack
He's not a he's not like a yeah ESPN guy.
01:04:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know. ah Put it him in.
01:04:42
Zack
It's a little bit unhinged.
01:04:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So's Gronk. And Gronk's all over Fox pregame stuff.
01:04:49
Mason
True.
01:04:51
Mason
I will just say if we were able to get them on, it would be worth every penny.
01:04:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's gonna get hired at barstool is what's gonna happen.
01:04:55
Mason
That's all I'm saying.
01:04:58
Mason
They got Gruden already.
01:04:58
Zack
You think?
01:05:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
John Gruden. I love John Gruden. He's a funny guy.
01:05:07
Mason
He kind of fits that podcast.
01:05:07
Zack
That's true.
01:05:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He could, he could coach still, let me tell you in a heartbeat.
01:05:09
Zack
You think? Would you take him as coach of the Jags? Wow. Really?
01:05:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He'd be on my top 10 list right now.
01:05:20
Mason
We need that list before the season's over.
01:05:20
Zack
OK, I think what let's do I want to let's do off the cuff power ring. Can we do it?
01:05:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
01:05:25
Zack
Who are the top five like worst coaches in the NFL?
01:05:32
Mason
Active or ever.
01:05:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
01:05:34
Zack
like
01:05:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cool.
01:05:34
Zack
Coaches you at least like to be coaching your football team? Current coaches?
01:05:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
just and Just like vibe of the coach, scheme, just like does not inspire.
01:05:40
Mason
Current.
01:05:43
Zack
Yeah, overall. like If your team announced this guy was your head coach, you would be like, I can't.
01:05:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:05:51
Zack
Is that Peterson on the list?
01:05:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's such a just.
01:05:54
Zack
OK.
01:05:54
Mason
I was going to say Brian Callahan.
01:05:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but
01:05:56
Zack
Yeah, Callahan just seems he's the most like blech person.
01:06:01
Mason
Yeah.
01:06:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Todd Bowles for the Bucks.
01:06:04
Zack
Hmm.
01:06:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like I know they're good, but it's just like he every time they pay into him on the sideline, he's he has no emotion on his face. I've never seen him open his mouth. Like he's never talking. He just has this stone wall face going on.
01:06:18
Zack
Hmm.
01:06:20
Mason
I kind of see that with a the Raiders head coach
01:06:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
His vibes are low to me.
01:06:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Antonio Pierce.
01:06:25
Mason
Yeah, he kind of has that vibe.
01:06:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's a one and done for sure.
01:06:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um What's his name for the Texans?
01:06:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I, I wouldn't want him as my coach. He coaches up dirty hits.
01:06:38
Zack
It's not reliable 10 times in so much. I don't know.
01:06:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, he's, he's over here saying we don't, we don't coach dirty hits yet.
01:06:43
Zack
Let's take a shot.
01:06:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They put a guy in the hospital last week and they tried that.
01:06:47
Mason
D'Amico Rhines.
01:06:48
Zack
True.
01:06:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they, yeah, D'Amico rhymes. We don't coach our players that way.
01:06:55
Zack
Somebody died.
01:06:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm. It's interesting. Cause you guys did it again the next week, put a guy in the hospital.
01:07:03
Mason
That tank Dell injury man, that was tough not That wasn't on my bingo card at all today.
01:07:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
tough um ah Mike McCarthy definitely wouldn't want him up coaching my team because he's just fat and dumb You just he's a constant meme on on Twitter and you're just gonna get made fun of constantly The
01:07:17
Zack
Got
01:07:27
Mason
Oh man
01:07:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dolphins head coach because he's a just a nerd and
01:07:33
Zack
Wow, 10s list is long.
01:07:33
Mason
I found that stat. he's He's the only one that never had any, never played a snap of football in high school, college, NFL, like never, like when it came to coaches, he was the only one that never played.
01:07:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Are you sure he never played?
01:07:48
Mason
Yeah, only active coach.
01:07:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Are you thinking of Jesse Minter, the defensive coordinator for the Chargers? Mike McDaniel played high school football.
01:08:01
Mason
I'm looking right now.
01:08:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think he might have even played college football. He's very like he's a slot as's like a slot receiver guy.
01:08:08
Zack
Uh oh, Mason.
01:08:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think you're thinking of Jesse Minter, defensive coordinator for the Chargers. His dad was like a legendary Division 2 coach. and hired his son out of out of high school to coach for him. And that's how he got linked up with the Harbaughs.
01:08:26
Mason
I'm gonna have to find this, hold on. This is great podcasting.
01:08:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is great podcasting. Urban Meyer, definitely wouldn't want to have him as your head coach.
01:08:35
Zack
He is not an active coach, so you don't have to worry about him.
01:08:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah, you're true, that's true. um The Seahawks defense or new head coach He's the defensive coordinator for the the Ravens last year Mike McDonald something about him.
01:08:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's just kind of like your basic ah Like trade a coach whenever you start a man Madden franchise something about him. He has no no Just nothing.
01:09:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's no swag.
01:09:01
Zack
Yeah.
01:09:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's no no aura negative 10,000 aura on Mike McDonald
01:09:03
Zack
No aura.
01:09:07
Mason
Negative.
01:09:08
Zack
Mike McDaniel played wide receiver at Yale.
01:09:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I knew he, you're thinking of Jesse, you're thinking of Jesse mentor, defensive coordinator for the Seahawks or the Chargers.
01:09:13
Mason
Mmm. Why did we see right yell? Who am I? So I'm thinking, okay. Okay. That was a, and he's defensive coach. Okay. Okay.
01:09:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause like his dad was like a legendary coach. He went to college. He never played in high school, went to college for something. His dad hired him and it was the same time. Uh,
01:09:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
some of the Harbaugh boys, defensive coordinators were on staff there and they brought him along and they loved the kid. He's super young. He's like, I think he's like our age. He's about to be a head head coach.
01:09:46
Mason
It's crazy.
01:09:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's probably gonna be head coach this off season.
01:09:46
Zack
Oh. For the jags?
01:09:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's gonna get hired. he's He's pretty far down the list, but he's on a Jesse Mintzer kid.
01:09:53
Mason
What do
01:09:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'd be alright if they hired him.
01:09:57
Mason
you look good until?
01:09:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Comes from the Harbaugh tree. ah here he he He kind of gives a the Seahawks coach energy to me. He's kind of got a negative aura. Nothing really exciting about him, but he's probably just going to be a good football coach. No nonsense kind of guy. Nothing nothing flashy. I need some flash.
01:10:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I had this had, yeah, I had urban Meyer who didn't even know who Aaron Donald was as a coach for a year.
01:10:17
Zack
Some razzle dazzle.
01:10:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then I've had Doug Peterson last couple of years, who's just lame wears visors and has really white gray hair. um
01:10:33
Zack
Some people might say Urban Meyer had too much aura.
01:10:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Urban had too much off the field swag and charisma to worry about being an NFL head coach.
01:10:44
Zack
He had more important things on his mind. than
01:10:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he had too many ventures off the field to worry about too many fans to take care of. Shout out Urban Meyer.
01:10:59
Zack
that What a guy. Love him.
01:11:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I still remember the day he turned and looked towards the stands when I was yelling at him at the Colts game, Mason was there.
01:11:09
Mason
Hmm. Yep. I remember that.
01:11:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the whole stadium went quiet and I i let Urban Meyer know what I was thinking.
01:11:19
Zack
you say?
01:11:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I told him to give James Robinson the ball. He's just like he had this crush on ah Carlos Hyde, who played for him at Ohio State.
01:11:26
Zack
and
01:11:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But even though he was washed and about 40 pounds overweight, still trying to play running back and then I fell. Look like me trying to run through the mud and quicksand all at the same time.
01:11:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This guy didn't belong on NFL roster. James Robinson, who who had just broke many Jaguar rushing records the year before, sitting on the sidelines. So for some reason, it was really quiet and I just took my chance and I screamed, hey, Urban! And you could see the whole Jags sideline look up and Mason was like, holy.
01:12:02
Mason
We had we had close see that's like one of the closest seats i've ever had to uh to a game
01:12:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:12:07
Zack
Did people cheer for you?
01:12:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, we just had that drunk guy showing us all his bet slips. so
01:12:12
Zack
they weren't They weren't behind you? They didn't agree?
01:12:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, who's at the Colts game?
01:12:18
Zack
Oh, right, right, right.
01:12:19
Mason
yeah this was a way game yeah, yep, they didn't like anything that we said
01:12:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Enemy territory. No, and then I just, yeah, then I kept asking them if they were worried they were gonna lose to a team coached by Urban Meyer. And if they really like Carson Wentz as their quarterback, I got a lot of a lot of dirty looks, everybody's mad.
01:12:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
o Carson Wentz Carson was gonna get another Super Bowl ring Because the Chiefs are one the Super Bowl this year. That's just how it goes I'd like to call out I would like to call I
01:12:47
Mason
Most... ah
01:12:48
Zack
I'm almost on them. They're waiting too many times and they're waiting too much in the favorite season. That's not one of those.
01:12:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Have a personal
01:12:55
Zack
Sorry, here you go.
01:12:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was gonna say, I have a personal call out to Patrick Mahomes. We know you're great. You don't have to keep doing the fake injury thing. You're not facing any adversity. You're not overcoming anything with your fake high ankle sprain every year at the end of the season that you keep doing.
01:13:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're not hurt, quit acting like it.
01:13:12
Zack
Wow.
01:13:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's all.
01:13:14
Zack
You got him.
01:13:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dude was running around like nothing was wrong and then he'll randomly just start limping during the game. He's like a dog that I got, like my dog Cooper does this randomly. He hurt his leg a couple years ago, had to wear a cast and take medicine and all that stuff.
01:13:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Every once in a while, like if he gets scared about something outside or or if I have to turn on the birdhouse because they're barking and freaking out, he'll act he'll start limping. Like, oh look, I'm injured, feel bad for me.
01:13:39
Zack
Take injury.
01:13:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like that's what passion homes does. He wants everyone to feel bad for him cause he's not in the MVP race this year.
01:13:47
Zack
I saw one of those videos, the site compilation, where it shows if like one play goes a different way, what could happen and the chief season.
01:13:47
Mason
Got him.
01:13:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm sick of it.
01:13:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah. I think there'll be seven and seven right now or something like that.
01:13:57
Zack
Did you see that? It was wild. Yeah. If like one play went differently in each of the games that they were like one possession, how, how
01:14:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's football, man.
01:14:07
Zack
all the margin was between them being like a
Transition from College to NFL
01:14:10
Zack
playoff ah outside looking in versus whatever they are, 15 and one or whatever.
01:14:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jags have lost 10 games this year by less than seven points.
01:14:18
Zack
you Wow.
01:14:20
Mason
Mm.
01:14:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like That's football. just NFL is is the game of ah some margins.
01:14:24
Zack
That's Dallas.
01:14:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're very thin.
01:14:28
Zack
True.
01:14:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
why it's It's fun to say NFL teams suck, because none of them really do. Any team can beat any team. It's just who makes less mistakes and who's more prepared.
01:14:39
Zack
It was a better quarterback. That feels like a huge piece of the puzzle.
01:14:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's very, yeah.
01:14:46
Zack
Agree.
01:14:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
especially when you have Mac Jones, McCorkle Jones out there.
01:14:54
Zack
Certainly doesn't help. Thanks.
01:14:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason Rudolph was lightening up. You guys come on, Mason Rudolph. I think he's the future. He's the perfect bridge guy.
01:15:02
Zack
Listen, if I can say one thing with the Titans, they know how to tank, baby.
01:15:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's right.
01:15:07
Mason
Some teams don't like it.
01:15:08
Zack
ah
01:15:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right now you guys are picking forth very, very big game between our two teams next weekend.
01:15:14
Zack
Yeah, I'm gonna need the Titans to figure the tank out. Put Will Levis back in.
01:15:19
Mason
Double tank.
01:15:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ready for Cam Ward? Would you be excited about Cam Ward?
01:15:24
Zack
Yeah, I think came more to the better chance of being like Jane Daniels then.
01:15:29
Zack
It's another other one.
01:15:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think think so.
01:15:30
Zack
I think he's closer to Jane Daniels.
01:15:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cam Ward.
01:15:33
Zack
Then I don't know. Shoulder is a complete unknown to me because I've not seen him play good competition at one time.
01:15:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shoulder Sanders is to a, it's my comp.
01:15:39
Mason
Yeah.
01:15:40
Zack
I have no idea what he's going to do.
01:15:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's a to a, he's to a level quarterback, which is good. That can win you games.
01:15:47
Zack
She was good. Sure.
01:15:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think Sanders will be good if he goes the right system. I like Cam Ward. I think he just has to do a little bit less of that run around in the backfield stuff. um Because you can't, yeah, you can't, yeah, you can't do it.
01:15:59
Zack
Caleb Williams still trying to learn that lesson as well.
01:16:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Even Michael Pinnix today was doing it. These guys do that in college and then they find out, oh, these defensive linemen, these defensive linemen in the NFL are freak athletes.
01:16:09
Mason
Can't do that anymore.
01:16:15
Zack
It is an interesting thing to. I know this is going to come back around to this, but. It feels like a lot of the players who are very good players but played in some of these softer conferences in college tend to do that like Caleb Williams, Michael Pinnocks.
01:16:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
01:16:34
Zack
And you just mentioned the other one, who was it? Maybe Shudder will be in that same category.
01:16:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:16:41
Zack
And Jane Daniels made the transition to NFL a little easier because he kind of faced more of the pro style defensive lines.
01:16:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Pro-style defenses and SEC, yeah.
01:16:48
Zack
And I think there's something to that probably. I don't know if that's across the board, but I think there's there's at least a something to be said.
01:16:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I agree. I think that's why you see for the most part, a lot of the NFL quarterbacks are from the SEC.
01:17:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ACC has a lot too. And then the big 12 had a lot, but that's a lot of more of your ah kind of like Pashma Homes and Baker Mayfield guys who put up just they put up crazy numbers.
01:17:13
Zack
Yeah, Patrick Mahalems, obviously. Yeah.
01:17:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, there's just special talents no matter what, but I think you see the guys that come in and a little bit more NFL ready are normally from the SEC because of what she said. I think you just have so much SEC talent plays in that a fell on defense, um, and coaching too. A lot of it is leans more towards what the NFL style is. And now the ACC is going to have that with Bill Belichick over there at UNC.
01:17:46
Zack
True that's real NFL I've heard some things there is a quarterback that went to Oklahoma Out of the transfer portal apparently North Carolina offered him a bag.
01:17:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I hope he does. I hope that's what he does. He leans into, I don't care about winning games. You want to get drafted, come here and I'll get it done for you. I can make that program elite very quick.
01:18:08
Zack
I forget his name now He came from like ah Washington state or somewhere where he was one of the top portal quarterbacks, went to Oklahoma, who they need a quarterback.
01:18:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know who you're talking about.
01:18:20
Zack
And UNC offered him a ton of money.
01:18:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he He's like a very run first kind of guy too.
01:18:27
Zack
They threw everything at him. So they're going to pick up a big portal quarterback, I think.
01:18:35
Zack
We'll see.
01:18:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It'll be fun. I'm very excited for the Bill Belichick experience at UNC.
01:18:44
Zack
I'm excited to see if he makes it to game one of next year.
01:18:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because of his buyout.
01:18:49
Zack
Yeah, I'm just...
01:18:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think he'll get one year.
01:18:53
Zack
I believe it when I see it.
01:18:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think he'll do one year.
01:18:54
Zack
I believe it when I see him on the sideline of a North Carolina game.
Conclusion and Holiday Wishes
01:19:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're diving all in.
01:19:00
Zack
I'm still not convinced it's just like a big hoax and just to get some recruits or something.
01:19:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're selling merch.
01:19:04
Zack
I don't know.
01:19:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They've got the hoodies, the cut off hoodies already.
01:19:09
Zack
I can't, I just can't buy it.
01:19:14
Zack
All right, folks, so the pod.
01:19:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. I think that's a pod.
01:19:18
Mason
That's a pod.
01:19:19
Zack
Love it.
01:19:22
Zack
We will be back with you later to this week. Well, actually, we haven't talked about this Christmas schedule.
01:19:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah.
01:19:27
Zack
We'll we'll be back at some point.
01:19:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Crashmosh.
01:19:29
Zack
um Christmas is rapidly approaching us coming up soon. We hope you all have a great Christmas Day and Christmas Eve, and we will see you next time.