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Transfer Cheat Sheet - Getting up to speed after the EUROS
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Missed some transfer action while watching the Euros? 🤔 We have your summer transfer market recap - a cheat sheet, if you will! Your one-stop shop for all the transfer chats! ⚽️
Len Yero ➡️ Manchester United
Rafael Varane ➡️ Como
Liam Delap ➡️ Ipswich
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:18
Glennon
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to the Not a Pundit podcast. If you, like me, are somewhat in the doll drums after both the Copa America and the Euros, and you've kind of fell behind in the old transfer market, fear not. um I am lucky enough to say that I have the two best men to talk about, the most niche transfers that you do need to know about for the old water cooler chat with me is Nathan Byrne and Killian Ginnany. Boys, how are we doing?
00:00:47
killianginnity
Very good. That was great. Great intro. Nate, how are you?
00:00:52
Nate
Yeah, I'm all good here. I'm excited to get talking about some transfers and club football bar because that's that's what I love best.
00:00:59
Glennon
So boys, right, i've I'll be honest with you, I got so into the euros and I kind of fell behind in the old transfer market, which is unlike me, but what am I missing?
Niche Football Transfers Overview
00:01:10
killianginnity
Okay so I have a few kind of random touch points to go through here just I have a big list here as writing like crazy during the day trying to remember kind of moves that went under the radar that I think we should touch on without going into too much detail. So Ivan Rakitic has gone back to Haddock's split in Croatia from Al-Shabaab And Seb Kotas has gone from sporting to Nacional, which is one of my favorite genres of transfers, which is players going home. So big shout out to them to really, really enjoy that.
00:01:39
Glennon
Yeah.
00:01:44
killianginnity
Then we have like lots of former Premier League players that we all know making moves around the place. Maratha has gone from Atletico Madrid to AC Milan for 13 million.
00:01:54
Glennon
I'm a big fan of that one because I also heard that ibrahim which Ibrahimovic is obviously on the board um and apparently that one really came from him going, this is who we need. And and I'm a big fan of X-Pro's, of his level getting involved in the club and obviously it could blow open their faces, but I don't know about you guys, but I think that's a good transfer.
00:02:13
killianginnity
but look what they did with Giroux. Like, he got an extra three solid years, and then Ibrahimovic himself.
00:02:15
Glennon
Yeah.
00:02:20
killianginnity
So like, I think that's an interesting one. It'll either be amazing or awful, and I don't think any anywhere in between. Um, Obamiyang has gone from Marseille to, um, Al-Quadsee in Saudi Arabia, and Kasper Schmeichel has gone from Andalect to Celtic to
00:02:36
Glennon
What do we think on that one?
00:02:38
Nate
I mean, it's like textbook sell through the last few years, isn't it? Just getting experienced keepers. Yeah, like it's the Scottish League. They're going to be good. He's a good goalkeeper. I suppose it's just whether you want a young one or or more older senior member. but
00:02:57
Glennon
It seems like they really just did a one for one swap there with getting Joe Hart out and Schmeichel in.
00:03:05
killianginnity
yeah like it's just very it's yeah it's fine like it's just it's just one i'm kind of the ones he might be a backup for three years or he might start for three years and neither of which would surprise me um but yeah i'd say that's probably going to be his last move unless he does a move back to um denmark like he's never professionally played there uh like he got his i don't think so like he came through with city and then he got his breakthrough at knots county um
00:03:05
Nate
feel.
00:03:10
Glennon
Two blonde assassins.
00:03:28
Glennon
As you nod.
00:03:34
Glennon
Well, you forget. Yeah, this sounds insane, but you do forget his dad was Peter Schmeichel. He grew up in the UK.
00:03:39
killianginnity
Yeah, like, so he might do that just for the, for the crack of it to say he he kind of did it.
Como's Strategic Moves and Club Insights
00:03:44
killianginnity
And Thiago Almada, FOPL manager hero has gone from Atlanta United to Botafogo for 20 million, which means for us FOPL manager aficionados, after a year, he will be still available for a reasonable price. Cause usually what happens when these yeah wonder kids or former wonder kids go to Europe, their prices treble and you can't, can't afford them. Como has been made making some interesting moves. Fabregas is now the manager, Pepe Reyna has gone to them, Alberto Moreno, it's just interesting itself.
00:04:14
Nate
Roll them back in.
00:04:14
Glennon
No, with with Como, with it ah for me, I thought Fabregas was already on the ticket, was he not?
00:04:21
killianginnity
He was on the ticket, so I believe he's a director and co-owner, and he was a coach. Now, that might have been down to licensing, but he's now the head coach.
00:04:25
Glennon
Okay.
00:04:29
Glennon
Fair.
00:04:29
Nate
Como is going to be a class one for a football manager.
00:04:32
Glennon
Oh, it'd be amazing.
00:04:32
Nate
It's like you go in, sign a few more RLDs, bring them in and just like vibes in the league.
00:04:38
Glennon
Also, that must be the easiest sale to like older pros. Yeah. Do you want to come and live in Como?
00:04:45
killianginnity
Oh, yeah. I like to have a couple of like good Italian talents there as well, like Patrick Cutrone, who was at Wolves recently, um Andrea Belletti, who has been perennially linked with kind of a a bigger move. They even have young Irish guy Liam Carrigan. So like they were.
00:05:02
Glennon
Oh great. That's good. That's good to see.
00:05:04
killianginnity
Yeah, they're a team to watch and they're like ah have a really, really big um ownership group. So like Fabregas owns a percentage and Henri has a percentage.
00:05:16
Glennon
On reason there, I think.
00:05:19
killianginnity
Dennis Wise is still an but he's been an a advisor there since like 2019.
00:05:22
Glennon
That man gets around, Jesus.
00:05:26
Glennon
Right, okay.
00:05:26
killianginnity
Like kind of not too long after he left Newcastle, he was kind of in the Italian part of things.
00:05:27
Nate
he
00:05:32
Glennon
Sorry, can we appreciate that?
00:05:33
killianginnity
oh
00:05:34
Glennon
Going from the surroundings of Newcastle, where it rains all day and everything's grey, to Como.
00:05:39
Nate
but exactly that is the good sound like imagine like there was a stock ownership and it was like okay you have to pick between como or
00:05:39
killianginnity
Like auto-move.
00:05:48
Nate
I don't know, Birmingham or something like that. I know which one I'm picking, you know what I mean?
00:05:51
Glennon
Yeah.
00:05:52
Nate
Like, like, yeah, it's just a good set up, lovely area, competitive league.
00:05:57
Glennon
Especially if they, if they can become like, like, look, take away the players they brought in next year, as long as they stay up success, like, and then push for it to become a top 10 side.
00:05:58
Nate
is
00:06:07
Nate
Yeah, just kick on. Like, it'll just keep becoming more attractive in an attractive place. there are
00:06:13
killianginnity
And Nate just to like really sell the FOPA manager save for you. This is the third time they've been refounded.
00:06:19
Nate
okay
00:06:20
killianginnity
So they're only seven years old technically in their current guys, but the original club was founded 117 years ago and it was refounded in 2005 as well.
00:06:28
Nate
okay that's one
00:06:29
killianginnity
So like
Player Career Reflections and Moves
00:06:30
Nate
to watch
00:06:30
Glennon
Kind of love that vibe. Yeah.
00:06:30
killianginnity
proper, proper Phoenix club.
00:06:33
killianginnity
Um, then also Catenio has gone from Asin Villa to Vasco da Gama on loan, um, which interesting enough.
00:06:41
Glennon
That's random that day.
00:06:42
killianginnity
Yeah, well he like it kind of proves the villa has gone beyond the need of Catineo, which is kind of sad to see.
00:06:48
Nate
it's a bit of a sad career that turned out wasn't it like he was so good like at the river and i think he probably took it for granted how good of a spot he was in like how good the environment was and in different worlds and whatnot true
00:06:51
Glennon
I could have been so much more.
00:06:51
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:07:01
killianginnity
Mm-hmm.
00:07:03
Glennon
Well, I think when clubs like Barcelona and Real Madrid come looking for you, your head starts to inflate, you know?
00:07:08
Nate
I think that should be a warning sign to others as well. The grass isn't always greener.
00:07:12
Glennon
Yeah.
00:07:13
Nate
and And if you're in a good spot, you're in a good spot. and I'm just surprised he hasn't made that big move to cash in, you know what I mean?
00:07:20
Glennon
it Kind of a Qatar or a no Saudi or whatever.
00:07:23
Nate
Yeah.
00:07:24
Glennon
Speaking of which, just one of the ones you said earlier, Aubameyang going out to the Middle East.
00:07:24
killianginnity
oh no no that that that he that was just being put off and now that Marseille have gotten another wrong and in to take his spot have allowed him to go and but tanga tanga in dumb belly who I don't know about you guys I was so excited when Tottenham signed him he's gone on a free to niece which is what 60 million loss
00:07:28
Glennon
Now, that is something that does not surprise me in the slightest.
00:07:34
Glennon
Yeah.
00:07:40
Glennon
yeah
00:07:46
Glennon
Yeah.
00:07:49
Nate
I think the issue was...
00:07:51
Glennon
Did he cause trouble or did he just not work out?
00:07:55
killianginnity
think it's I don't think he'd necessarily cause trouble, but he just was not at the level.
00:07:59
Nate
I think that lad would have been an unbelievable player if he did not join Tottenham. And I mean that in the noises way possible. He just went into such a disruptive environment at Tottenham at that time that I genuinely think if he joined a Liverpool or a Chelsea at the time or so something like that, I believe it was Mourinho but he got both.
00:08:08
killianginnity
He had the talent.
00:08:20
killianginnity
Did he go in under Mourinho or Conte?
00:08:24
Glennon
Ooooh. Yeah. He definitely got both. I'm gonna say it was Mourinho, Broderman.
00:08:27
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:08:30
killianginnity
So like, yeah, the it's kind of, apparently he was also like really overweight, and which, yeah.
00:08:36
Glennon
As a footballer, like, I'm not like not in a fucking body-shame way, like, but I...
00:08:40
Glennon
You've... Yeah, you've one job, you know?
00:08:40
killianginnity
Your job is to be fit.
00:08:45
killianginnity
And well paid for it.
00:08:46
Glennon
Yeah.
00:08:47
killianginnity
Um, a really interesting transfer is Michy Batuwai, going from Fennebacha to Galatas, Ryanafree.
00:08:53
Glennon
That is a brave, or I don't even know if brave is the right word, that is a ballsy move.
00:09:01
killianginnity
But he was also alone a couple of years ago at Bishiktas.
00:09:04
Glennon
Oh man, that's the trifecta of holy hell.
00:09:08
killianginnity
That man is bulletproof, we should hope. Then there's two moves that I found rather amusing. Is the brothers of more famous players. Is Ethan Mbappe has gone to Lille on a free from PSG.
00:09:23
Glennon
Well, I mean, I think he was always going to get turfed out once once Killian left your namesake of of even greater talent.
00:09:23
Nate
Okay.
00:09:31
Glennon
um
00:09:31
killianginnity
of lesser talent.
00:09:31
Nate
I think that's a good move though. I think that's a good move though.
00:09:33
killianginnity
madam'am It's a good move, it's a good club um and he might, now that Killian has gone to Madrid and being another transfer that people may have missed, um he might actually get get to kind of develop a way from the spotlight, kind of like Jude Bellingham and Job Bellingham, like just go and let the lad break through on himself and on his own nerves.
00:09:55
Glennon
it's but It's better for his career for sure. Like, I mean, I may be being hard on him. i ah I always just kind of had that view of same with, you know, and hazards brother was there or there's so many players that have done it over the years, but does the boy of talent or what's his, what's, what's his sauce?
00:10:11
killianginnity
From what I know, he does. The only thing is, I don't know if it's biased, but he's only 18 or something. He is only young.
00:10:20
Glennon
Yeah.
00:10:20
killianginnity
It is very much a Job and Jube Bellingham kind of situation. There's a couple years between them. he's young enough that he may make it, he may not, but let him find that out. and Then Oscar Hoyland has moved ah to Frankfurt from Copenhagen, Copenhagen for 1.2 million, but that so that's a brother of
00:10:40
Glennon
That's a strong enough move now, to be honest. That gets him into more mainline Europe football, you know top five leagues.
00:10:46
killianginnity
Yeah, brother of Erasmus, so that'll be interesting to see how how he gets on. There's been a couple of moves that were big. Archie Grey gone from Leeds to Tottenham, 41 million. He's only 18, looks very, very good. And the Endrick move has finally gone through to Real Madrid, so he's finally arriving, and which it just means.
00:11:02
Nate
How much was that? Aren't you great?
00:11:05
killianginnity
Archie Grey was a 41 million.
00:11:06
Glennon
That's mad.
00:11:07
Nate
To me, I have a problem with this, okay? Now, I'm not a Tottenham fan, okay? They can be excited about him. He is not what they need right now. And spending 41 million on him is such a huge amount to take away from a player that can come in and have a proper impact. that that' my That's my my opinion on the deal.
00:11:29
killianginnity
Yeah, no, yeah I know what you mean, but it's also like they're paying the English tax on a young guy and basically getting them in before anybody else does.
00:11:39
Nate
But is that what Tottenham needs right
00:11:39
killianginnity
So.
Impactful Goalkeeper Transfers and Speculations
00:11:41
Nate
now?
00:11:41
Nate
like like i say like
00:11:44
killianginnity
It's not what they need, but I think they're they're trying to be clever.
00:11:47
Nate
yeah i It's a mistake for me.
00:11:48
Glennon
But it's- Tottenham have always tried to be clever and it just never works out.
00:11:52
killianginnity
which on on that, one of one of the transfers is Lemela has gone to Greece. Yeah, and yeah he's got he' gone out to Eris, who I think Juleson Bennett for you football ah manager, aficionados, something where I think heat that's where he was out and alone last season.
00:11:58
Glennon
Really?
00:12:10
Glennon
On loan or is he gone gone?
00:12:10
killianginnity
and LaMella.
00:12:13
Glennon
Yeah.
00:12:14
killianginnity
I think he signed in a free transfer.
00:12:16
Glennon
Right.
00:12:16
killianginnity
um Max Killman has gone from wolves to West Ham for $40 million.
00:12:23
Nate
i like that
00:12:24
killianginnity
Yeah, I think that's good. Rhea has confirmed the transfer to Arsenal for $27 million.
00:12:31
Glennon
Surely that sees Ramsdale on the move.
00:12:34
Nate
is hold
00:12:34
killianginnity
I'm not too sure, but one goalkeeping move that may stop another transfer is Adrian leaving Liverpool to go to Real Betis, which kind of puts pressure on them to keep Kelleher, which kind of worries us from an Irish perspective.
00:12:45
Nate
I
00:12:49
Glennon
What's left on his contract do we know?
00:12:49
Nate
like that move.
00:12:50
killianginnity
I think it's two years, maybe?
00:12:53
Glennon
That's too long.
00:12:53
killianginnity
Maybe three?
00:12:53
Glennon
He can't sit for another two years.
00:12:56
killianginnity
No, he absolutely can't.
00:12:56
Nate
He needs to be portioned. He needs to get like, like, he needs to get a bit like, ferocious with it in terms of like, lads, I've done you a solid hair. I've been in a number two.
00:13:06
Glennon
Yeah.
00:13:06
Nate
I've done a good job for you. Find me a move. Like,
00:13:09
Glennon
Well, I also think he if he he, if he's going to get in that road and like, look, I'm not, told and I'm not suggesting he burns bridges here, but like he needs to go good old fashioned transfer request.
00:13:20
killianginnity
Yeah like but it's tough though because like ah Liverpool and City with both their keepers seem to be very willing and there is plenty of rumours to let their goalkeepers go to Saudi for big money.
00:13:33
Glennon
Yeah, I've seen the Edison charts kind of being bandied around. this
00:13:37
killianginnity
And like they're both very very good still, they're both relatively young But if an offer comes in, and I wonder, is that what Liverpool are ultimately holding out for? Kind of going, well, we might get 60 or 70 million out of Saudi for ah Alison, and next year we won't get a third of that.
00:13:56
Glennon
Yeah, I mean, I just wonder, look, these days you you don't know but like what what I'm kind of going around the kind of the golf hole on. is It comes down to players characters, but these days you don't really know when that Saudi money comes calling. It seems like 90% of folk are are are open to it, you know?
00:14:13
killianginnity
Well, if De Bruyne can't say no.
00:14:13
Nate
and interest yeah An interesting thing tonight is that I was learning from Ralph Madrid has been linked with Liverpool, so I don't know where that'd be.
00:14:21
killianginnity
Oh!
00:14:23
Nate
They try and ship both of the goalkeepers out and bring two in, I don't know. I just think if Liverpool are lost, an Allyson or City losing Edison, I think that's a huge hole because they're the type of keepers that hold the team together, but they're also keepers that are very hard to come by.
00:14:44
killianginnity
Yeah, definitely.
00:14:44
Glennon
What, what do we think is Keller's like, don't be wrong. I i think I speak for us all that we're big fans of Kevin Keller and really want to see him get that move, but do we see him as a number one at a top 16, a top eight, a top 10? What are we saying?
00:14:59
killianginnity
I think a top 10, like you could imagine him doing a fine job, allla like a Brad Friedel, like when he was a Blackburn and Tottenham.
00:15:08
Glennon
Yeah, that's fair.
00:15:08
killianginnity
Um, you could see him do well at the likes of an Everton, like maybe not Everton of where their positions are now, but like Everton next year wouldn't surprise me if they were top 10. Like I think there, he has the ability to kind of make it make a lower team better than they should be, or be solid enough to keep a good team good. I don't think he has enough to make a good team great and that's what stops you from being a top four.
00:15:33
Glennon
do do
00:15:35
Nate
I...
00:15:35
Glennon
I was going to say now, do you think, do you think he, I kind of tend to agree with, with Killian on that one, but do you think he has it in the locker to be a number one at a Champions League team?
00:15:47
Nate
No, I think he's good enough to play in the top 10 and be a number one in the top 10, but I don't think he's going to get a top 10 move. i just It's too closed off currently. If I was him, ah I'd be looking at possibly leaving England out to Europe if if that's a possibility.
00:16:07
Glennon
anywhere in particular.
00:16:11
Nate
ah I don't know. I'd have to look at the goalkeeper situation of the clubs. I just think there'd probably be maybe a bit more upside to that. and the
00:16:19
Glennon
I just worry about his selection from an Irish perspective, because maybe with, you know, our good pal Heimer, there won't be that Premier League or, you know, Championship bias.
00:16:26
killianginnity
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:16:30
Glennon
But I think as an Irish player, you can get left in the lurch when you go abroad, and unfortunately.
00:16:36
Nate
yeah but is that not what he's trying to do differently now is pick people that are around Europe so I keep that as a place that I'd be looking but I don't know I think he'd be good to get like maybe a forest move or ip switch or like
00:16:40
Glennon
You'd hope so.
00:16:53
Glennon
Ipswich would be good to see. The only problem with that is he know they're going down and would that stain him in his first season as a number one going down, and you know?
00:17:01
Nate
I think Ipswich might surprise us personally. and like Based on what I saw at Brentford, I'd put them to go down. and so is I think there could be a but few surprises in the Premier League. I'd say Ipswich might be a ah good place to go.
00:17:17
Glennon
Speaking of parties, is there any other parties on the move?
00:17:18
killianginnity
no
00:17:21
killianginnity
Yes we have a few and they're all generally smaller but they're all interesting. um Sinclair Armstrong has gone from QPR to Bristol City for 2.5 million so hopefully he'll start to get a proper run in the first team. um He's kind of put an error that you could tell me in a few years time that he's like bouncing between the Premier League and Championship and doing well or he's playing League 2 and neither way would I be surprised.
00:17:46
Glennon
yeah
00:17:46
killianginnity
um Troy Parrott has finally got his move from Tottenham and he's gone back to the Netherlands to AZ Alkamer where he had been in the area of AZ last year with Excelsior and did very very well so he's gone for four million.
00:18:00
Glennon
That's a good deal for AZ.
00:18:00
killianginnity
rock
00:18:00
Nate
I'm a fan of that.
00:18:02
Glennon
Yeah.
00:18:03
killianginnity
yeah
00:18:03
Nate
That's like ah it's a club you'll play the decent level you might get europeans football if you have one or two good seasons you could be on for a good move back to the con like back to the continent so i think that's
00:18:13
killianginnity
He's already scored in the friendlies as well.
00:18:14
Nate
Yeah, like I think it's a really positive move and probably something that him being a Tottenham has held him back. so um'
00:18:21
Glennon
Yeah, but I you agree with you, but I do wonder does he
00:18:22
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:18:26
Glennon
Does he get the profile that he currently has without being autonomous?
00:18:32
Nate
Yeah, no, but he's good enough.
00:18:34
killianginnity
Well.
00:18:36
Nate
like i In his case, I have an issue where where he's gone out alone in England. like he sort of like The team's has gone out alone to have not really matched what his perceived potential is.
00:18:49
Glennon
It's kind of been in the doll drums for a good while.
00:18:51
Nate
So, yeah, he was at MK Dawn's.
00:18:51
killianginnity
She was a Preston, wasn't he?
00:18:53
Glennon
Yeah.
00:18:55
killianginnity
When's the last time you saw a plate good player come from any of these teams?
00:18:56
Nate
like these are these are Exactly. These aren't good lawnmowers. I think Tottenham have mismanaged them a bit.
Young Talent and Career Opportunities
00:19:04
Nate
um This feels like a i feel this feels like a s smart career to get them back on track.
00:19:05
Glennon
I think that's fair.
00:19:07
killianginnity
One of
00:19:09
Nate
so I'm excited to see what it is.
00:19:12
killianginnity
the things that with Tottenham that kind of screwed him over was apparently it was Mourinho that liked him.
00:19:17
Nate
yeah
00:19:18
killianginnity
And then he kind of kept him around the team and then he was out on the mill and the marina was gone. So I wonder was that kind of.
00:19:23
Glennon
Was there a master plan if Meranio stayed?
00:19:26
killianginnity
Yeah, like, and then it kind of all scuppered because I believe to go to Preston, he turned down Sunderland or was linked to Sunderland and I kind of thought that would have been an ideal move because like one, because I'm biased, but two, because like Sunderland is one of them kind of teams that if you do well, you can do very, very well, or you could do bad. Um, and it's the same risk. He talked with Preston, but Preston have less of an upside because like, I think the year that he didn't join us, Ross Stewart ended up scoring 20 something goals.
00:19:54
Glennon
Speaking of pressing, did anyone see Robbie Brady's absolute worldie against Liverpool in the friendly?
00:19:59
Nate
Yeah I
00:20:00
killianginnity
I know that I love the fact that um the banter here is back in Merseyside.
00:20:06
killianginnity
and But speaking of Preston, Alan Brown um has gone to Sunderland on a furry transfer.
00:20:08
Glennon
What do you think about that?
00:20:13
killianginnity
I think it's great. um like For us, he's not going to be a superstar. He's going to be exactly what we need. we like Sometimes you just need bodies. And I think he's a very, very solid body. like He has 400 appearances for Preston, most of which are in the championship. It can't be sniffed at.
00:20:28
Glennon
That's thats ah but like it's a relatively good CV to be fair.
00:20:28
killianginnity
but he can
00:20:32
killianginnity
Well he's... I don't think he's even 30 yet. So it's incredible, like when you consider it that way. Um, but yeah, he can play right back and play it in the center. Um, that suits us. Like we have Luco nine as our captain who's Mr. Versatility. He came to us as an attacking midfielder and now he's our starting ah center defender, um, after two years on the right back. Um, so like have somebody like him as good. Um, I think he is a ah good personality, um, team player, which I think as well as going to bode well for the Ireland squad and having, having him in a kind of.
00:21:05
killianginnity
a better team than Preston, basically. um What do you think, Nate?
00:21:10
Nate
Yeah so I started to move and I was like okay a decent move fair enough but my instant head and then I might offend a few people with this i'm not I'm not scared to do that.
00:21:21
Glennon
I can't wait for this.
00:21:23
Nate
is Does he not sum up everything that Ireland's midfield is? Boring. like
00:21:28
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:21:29
Nate
Honestly, I think like, someone drastically needs to change in Ireland to where we can produce some midfielders with some actual technical ability and some creativeness because by God, we are screaming out for, and I know we can go in and do a job in a certain position and ah in a team, in in that someone team, but I'm just like, he he epitomizes everything that Ireland's midfield is like.
00:21:56
killianginnity
Yeah, no, I know what you mean, but like, you would hope that there's a few players that are common true or they're making themselves available for and like, um, Casey McInteer, like an always more kind of attacking midfielder, but like, I think that's the area.
00:22:09
Glennon
You've been blowing that horn for a while. You've been trying to you've been trying to get him to to commit for a good stretch now.
00:22:14
Nate
Well, we need to talk to me further badly as well.
00:22:15
killianginnity
Yeah. Because I think we're actually quite solid in the kind of more defensive end between Josh Cullen and Smallbone. And I think it's where Jeff Hendrick used to be played, say Euro 2016. That was always our problem point where you just, you could get the ball to him and you'd have somebody that would do nothing.
00:22:33
Nate
We need a wazooler, man.
00:22:34
Glennon
I was literally about to say that there's we've we've had such a like ah just an emptiness in that midfield.
00:22:34
killianginnity
Pretty much.
00:22:39
Glennon
like We had Kino, then we had Wes. When you think of dominating midfielders in that team, I don't really think of many others that were you know absolutely could dependable players. you know
00:22:53
killianginnity
But there's other guys coming to you like Andrew Morin at Brighton. He could be fantastic.
00:22:59
Glennon
Was he the one? it was kind of it's It was him and Ferguson are like a year apart.
00:23:02
killianginnity
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:04
Glennon
Yeah.
00:23:05
killianginnity
So like I think he could be, ah between him and McInteer, I don't think it's panic stations yet. and But we need to do it on play.
00:23:12
Glennon
We just need them to bloody commit, you know?
00:23:14
killianginnity
Well, Morin is, um, I think he's born in Ireland and raised in Ireland. Um, so like, I don't, I don't think he's initially there. We just need him to be playing regular first name football at a reasonable level.
00:23:23
Glennon
Yeah.
00:23:24
killianginnity
Um, but they're not the only ones on the move. Rocco Vata, son of a former Albanian international, um, has gone from Celtic to Watford, which I think is a great move because like we saw with Mikey Johnston, like Celtic can screw over wingers and just keep them in the B teams or on the bench. So.
00:23:44
Glennon
I still think there's something in Mikey Johnson. I i think there's a baller in that guy.
00:23:49
killianginnity
Oh yeah, look what he was doing at West Brom. He was fantastic at West Brom and all. And that's when he he started playing for Ireland and he kind of exploded onto the scene for us. He was fine on on the debut and then he kind of started to to be really, really good.
00:24:02
Glennon
Celtics seem to do that to players.
00:24:03
killianginnity
and
00:24:04
Glennon
they either like It either accelerates you as a player or just completely ah debilitates you as a player. you know
00:24:12
killianginnity
Yeah, it's so it's a really weird place to be, and I think he's made the right move in getting out. Like he's still young, he's only 20, I think, so plenty of time. and Romeo Adichuki has gone from um Waterford to Southampton, which was great, a bit 400k, and then a Truin.
00:24:28
Glennon
Just that's big for Waterford.
00:24:30
killianginnity
Yeah, um and it' I'm sure there's probably salons and stuff there as well. Then um one that I'm going to include, because we mentioned Ipswich and he is Irish eligible, um is Liam Dalap. 15 million to Ipswich from Man City.
00:24:43
Glennon
i think that's I think that's one of the best moves he could have secured.
00:24:47
killianginnity
Yeah, and especially under Kieran McKenna. I think it's only going to increase the possibility that he might declare for us, which is even better.
00:24:54
Glennon
Is he good enough to play for England?
00:24:57
killianginnity
No, I think that not, ah he would, he probably would have made the team at the same time, Frasier, Campbell and all was getting call ups.
00:25:05
Glennon
Okay.
00:25:06
killianginnity
Um, when they were like, they didn't have a proper striker striker that they could like depend on like, um, where the one Yeah.
00:25:12
Glennon
That is an absolute blast from the past Fraser Campbell, my god.
00:25:16
killianginnity
With his one cup.
00:25:17
Nate
Can we get anybody that isn't a striker that might declare for us that we're Jesus.
00:25:17
killianginnity
Um,
00:25:22
Nate
like we We might have to whip out a four striker from Asia there like just to defend us.
00:25:27
killianginnity
Well, Dilap can play on the wing um and like he hasn't quite shown his ability just yet, but he had a good season last year and I think it might be, I think this is the time he's going to step up um because he kind of has to, which is always good to have that kind of level of motivation. um My only concern is that he does a Bamford and has one decent season and gets one cap for England and then
00:25:54
Glennon
ah We've had this discussion before where, you know, to your career is, is, you know, ah one cap and three trainings gods in England worth more to your bank balance, you know.
00:26:06
killianginnity
I'm not too sure, but his dad was in Ireland International, Rory.
00:26:10
Glennon
He was indeed.
00:26:10
killianginnity
um Great, great, great throw in his, um his family is from 10 minutes from where I live. um So where they have, yeah, that was where they have the steam trash and festival.
00:26:17
Glennon
Put in a word, would you?
00:26:22
killianginnity
So, and, and his, his, I can't remember if it it was the laps, like Rory's granny, um or if his his mother was the local nurse. So. good Irish roots and hopefully now that the kind of the city dream has kind of ah abated he might kind of ah come over to us which but they were the kind of the Irish transfers that stood out to me and then we get on to kind of the big movers which there is very few of but the ones that I can see Nate are Real Madrid Juventus, Bayern, and Man United.
Major Club Transfers and Strategic Acquisitions
00:26:56
killianginnity
Juventus will start with, though, because I think the two moves that were very interesting was Douglas Louise and Kefram Turram, who I think United should have been in for.
00:26:56
Nate
yeah
00:27:05
Glennon
Douglas Louise, that was not my bingo card for the this transfer window. like I know we all knew he was he was on the move, but I did not expect UV.
00:27:13
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:27:15
Nate
yes we we couldn't get her around because we can't sign from from niece which is the same otherwise i am not
00:27:21
Glennon
How were Citi able to do it though?
00:27:23
Nate
because their clubs aren't in the same competition. So they own the two clubs, but they loaned them to Girona, so they didn't buy them from Girona. So they're technically not in the same competition of where we are.
00:27:37
Glennon
So they're just more clever, basically.
00:27:38
Nate
So that's probably the biggest hell on the United side this summer. has been We've missed out on probably two top players that we cut it off for extremely cheap. a But yeah, we couldn't sign them.
00:27:51
killianginnity
Well, especially considering how long the negotiations went on for Radcliffe to take over, you'd think when it was kind of looking to be a done deal that you was would have kind of tied it up early.
00:27:59
Glennon
Get a move in going, yeah.
00:28:01
Nate
Yeah, so now he's moved the event. He's a top player, isn't he? So like it's a shame.
00:28:07
killianginnity
Yeah. 17 million.
00:28:09
Nate
Yeah, bargain.
00:28:10
killianginnity
Like, it is a steal. And I'm surprised Liverpool didn't go for MITRE. Like,
00:28:15
Glennon
they've They've been, there's tumbleweeds in Merseyside at the moment.
00:28:19
killianginnity
well they're looking to buy more clubs than the air players um fsc link
00:28:22
Glennon
Yeah, there's sniffing around Bordeaux for for those who don't know, but do you find it odd, lads, the whole Liverpool situation of, you know, absolute nothing.
00:28:24
killianginnity
porto now
00:28:32
Glennon
There's not even links there, apart from Anthony Gordon, which that was just us trying to save our RSN FFP, you know.
00:28:38
killianginnity
Well, does Takafusu Kubu, who if nobody else remembers him, he was, he's at a real associate, a Japanese player where people might remember him from was he was initially at, I think 11 or 12 in La Masia with Barcelona. And then they did a dodgy deal to get him there. So his work permit wasn't valid.
00:28:57
Glennon
Wouldn't be like them.
00:29:00
killianginnity
So we sent back to Japan at which point real Madrid signed them. And he was at Castilla for a few years played.
00:29:06
Glennon
Two is out Lemosia and Castilla as well.
00:29:09
killianginnity
yeah and then he kind of wasn't getting the breakthrough there so he went out on loan kind of like Odegard did and went and then went to Sociedad and made his name and now he's getting the level so he's very much a Odegard he's kind of he was initially called the Japanese Messi but I think he's much closer to being the Odegard in terms of a career path
00:29:10
Glennon
Wow.
00:29:29
Nate
see Is this concrete though? like Because there seems to be like zero hype coming out of that corner. It feels like feels very like we're gonna get our business done right, which is probably the last thing you want when you're heading into the first season under a new manager.
00:29:50
killianginnity
Mm.
00:29:51
Nate
It's say don I know.
00:29:51
Glennon
what Do you think he's picking up the clock playbook and and trying to carry that mantle of, of you know, i've we've got young players almost in a fergie way, like trust the kids, you know?
00:30:00
Nate
if If that's what he's saying or thinking, I'd be very worried as a Liverpool fan because the first thing you want to do when you come in as a new manager is get your own people in, sort of build your own team and get get your sort of identity over. The question then has to go to, is he being strong enough to ask for these things? Like, come on Liverpool, get the checkbook out, you know what I mean?
00:30:23
Glennon
Or is the checkbook dependent on the likes of, like you said, does Allison go to Saudi? Does Salah go to Saudi? If those guys leave, Virgil will leave. Do you think it's dependent on that, Killian?
00:30:35
killianginnity
Yeah but I think they're probably financially pretty tight because like don't forget it was not that long ago that FSG were talking about potentially selling up so I don't think that they want to be given somebody a war chest and I'm sure part of the negotiations to bring Slott in was kind of like he's not looking for 200 million to go and spend and I'd say that until the bigger names leave the likes of Asala and like they're fairly stacked reasonably across the board. They could just be better. Like they have every left winger.
00:31:08
killianginnity
Um, like they have a lot, lot of like forward positions that have reasonable midfielders.
00:31:09
Nate
I...
00:31:13
killianginnity
Like they have to replace Tiago now.
00:31:14
Glennon
They don't have a sniff of the league next year though.
00:31:15
killianginnity
I think, Oh God, no, no.
00:31:17
Nate
I think the issue in Liverpool, seriously, is is like their team are on two polar opposites of of the equation. One is a very aged like core of that squad that, to me, if you look at Salah last season and Van Dijk during the Euros and stuff like that, they're becoming very dated and very like like the hills are approaching quick and they're going to fall off the other side very quickly.
00:31:41
Glennon
not Not even in a dig way. I think you're right. I think it kind of is a bit united in that way, where you guys kind of went through a little bit of that.
00:31:49
Nate
Like, but like it's like the the Hills approaching quickly, either like you get back down it or you're falling off the other side.
00:31:49
killianginnity
Or even Barcelona a couple of years ago.
00:31:51
Glennon
Yeah.
00:31:57
Nate
it And to me, it looks like Liverpool either don't see the warning signs coming or, or walk, but I'd be very worried as a Liverpool fan. And I'd be very worried heading into next season because to me, the stars in that team, quote unquote, like did did they turn up last season? I don't think so.
00:32:16
Glennon
Going back to that big four that you guys were talking about, it it it seems like for me, you know when we move away from UVA, that Bayern Munich are making moves.
00:32:25
killianginnity
Yeah, no serious like and some serious ones. so like they may They gave a so signal of intention last year getting came and that was the biggest transfer. They still spent a little bit of money on top of output that, but that was the big one. there Probably, they're not spending as much on individual transfers, but they are spending probably the same amount of money. They're off to get Michael Olise from Palace for 53 million. They got Jow Pelenia from Fulham for 51 million. They have a centre-back Ito from Stuttgart for 23 million.
00:32:56
killianginnity
um Brian Zaragoza from Granada is gone for 13 million. like These are all solid ah
00:33:02
Glennon
Like you're coming up on 140 million though. like you know That's a heavy window.
00:33:07
killianginnity
Yeah, and like Olise is going to be very, very good. Polina is going to be very good. But they're going to be managed by Vincent Company.
00:33:15
Glennon
i I'm starting to think it might work, boys.
00:33:15
Nate
that's That was meant to be my point. That was meant to be my point.
00:33:18
Glennon
so
00:33:19
Nate
You spend all this money just to give it to Vincent Company. I'm like, oh, what a sad, like, what a sad dad turn of events.
00:33:28
Glennon
i i but I don't know what it is. i've been I was laughing about it. You know, when they signed on the dotted line and you know, he it's it's Jesus, it's as bad as the art of manager in their search to get a manager. But there's some part of me that goes, that German efficiency, that Bayern Munich C-suite, that when it does work and there's been gambles they take that you go, wow. And he could just be one of them.
00:33:54
Nate
Oh, it does.
00:33:54
killianginnity
Yeah, but they I think to be honest, the biggest issue that Byron have is they already have a very disjointed squad in terms of badly built. They have a lot of egos. And I don't think he holds the same command over them players as he would have if he was going into um City, like like if he was going to do a Lampard on it and going into Chelsea when Lampard did quite well during that transfer ban and got them to be very, very creditable.
00:34:19
Glennon
Yeah.
00:34:29
killianginnity
um i like like Just look look at the look at the squad now. So they have Kane, they have a 34-year-old Muller, Nabri, Olese, Sane, Vidovic, Zaragoza, Tel, Komen, Musiala. That's just ah attacking attackers and wingers. Like Limar, Guretska, Paulini now coming in, Masrari, Kimmich, Guerrero, Alves, Dyer,
00:34:55
Glennon
Cambridge possibly on the move.
00:34:57
killianginnity
But this is the thing is that they have to move on these guys because they have the amount of players that they have that are like doubling up on positions, but they're both starters, if you know what I mean. And and then they're looking at potentially getting rid of delicked for half a nothing to, you know, it, which makes no sense.
00:35:07
Glennon
Yeah.
00:35:13
killianginnity
And then they have 34 year old manual, 38 year old, I should say, a man, Manuel Neuer, like, and they're
00:35:18
Nate
Yeah, like, where's the goalkeeper? Like, like, I'm sure that's the first thing they look at now is like bringing a goalkeeper.
00:35:26
Glennon
especially as a defender, he'd be looking at you know the defensive unit, first of all.
00:35:26
Nate
Like,
00:35:30
Nate
I like, I think it'd be class of buying with that replaced Neuer with, first aiken from Barstow or something.
00:35:30
killianginnity
yeah Yeah.
00:35:39
Nate
Like, I think that would be a perfect move, but that is so.
00:35:42
killianginnity
it's It's not really fixing the age issue though.
00:35:44
Glennon
Speaking of goalkeepers though, boys, I don't know if you saw De Gea's tweet. I don't know whether it was yesterday or the day before. And he had, was it a clock or a, or one of those kind of sand things. And so he's got something cooking. I wonder, and I'll say it's Munich, but I wonder where he's gone.
00:36:01
Nate
Yeah.
00:36:01
killianginnity
Munich would make sense because Dehay is still only 33.
00:36:04
Glennon
That's what I'm saying. And he's only been out of the game for a year.
00:36:05
killianginnity
If he was going to Bayern, if he was going to Bayern, there's only one goalkeeper younger than him. Daniel Parett. Bayern's back up goalkeeper is 35 years old. They're starting goalkeepers 38, then they have a young lad of 24. like
00:36:21
Glennon
It'd be a huge gamble, like in the fact that, don't give me, like obviously De Gea when he, at one point was probably the best keeper in the Premier League, then he fell off a little bit and he hasn't had a club for, you know, over a year now, but I mean, you could do a pay as you play deal with him, see how it works out.
00:36:38
Nate
People forget he had the golden glove when he left United. Like, ah that's the crazy thing about it is like, are there his salary demands extortionate or I don't know what's going on.
00:36:41
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:36:49
Nate
But like, to me, he's a no brainer.
00:36:53
killianginnity
Oh yeah, and especially to the likes of a barn where you need to be a good goalkeeper, but you're not gonna be as dependent on as he was at United.
00:36:55
Nate
Yeah.
00:37:01
Glennon
Absolutely.
00:37:02
killianginnity
Like, he's gonna actually have an easier job of it if he was to go to a good team like that. And actually just on the likes of that, um the free transfer market at the minute is still pretty insane. Like, there's still Rabio. You were telling me just before we went on, Varan is just after going, is it Tacoma?
00:37:22
Glennon
Yeah, he's gone to Koma, which is a great deal for him.
00:37:23
Nate
yeah yeah you know even Liverpool have been interested in my know that um his previously but also i i think a lot of it is his Asian talk but like yeah i
00:37:26
Glennon
um But the Rabio one, am I right in saying, you know, I'd have laughed at him a while back then.
00:37:26
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:37:31
Glennon
Now or previously.
00:37:45
killianginnity
Who's his mother? Who's meant to be an absolute pain in the neck?
00:37:48
Glennon
Oh, you're you're not joking, Mike?
00:37:50
Nate
Like, I just, yeah, like, I think he's just like his wages are just astronomical for a very average buyer in my opinion.
00:37:51
Glennon
His mother is is motors his agent.
00:37:53
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:37:53
Glennon
I've never heard that in my life.
00:38:01
Glennon
What are we talking, like three, 400?
00:38:04
Nate
300k, I'm like, you know, like, which is just
00:38:04
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:38:06
Glennon
Jesus.
00:38:06
killianginnity
it was and one of like he it was It was a mother that basically decided he was going to Juventus instead of saying a PSG, or there was somewhere else he was negotiating with. Was it Bayern or was it United? And basically they just had to turn around and say, no, we're not giving them any more.
00:38:20
Nate
I think it was off, so I was probably buying.
00:38:23
killianginnity
It was it was some one of one of the other big teams, um but it was just like, this is just insane. But looking at who else is free, to some well-known names here. Clecci Iannaccio, Solid Striker, Andre Gomez, yeah Che Adams, reasonable lower mid-table forward, Anthony Marcial, Memphis DePuy,
00:38:36
Nate
There you are.
00:38:38
Glennon
Lester, you're nacho.
00:38:50
Glennon
De Pauli, De Pauli had a poor euros if he was putting himself in the shop window.
00:38:50
killianginnity
ah
00:38:54
killianginnity
Yeah, but he looks like, ah what was that player that used to play out in Orlando in the NBA?
00:39:00
Glennon
Oh, with the headband.
00:39:01
killianginnity
With the headband, yeah.
00:39:02
Glennon
Yeah, I can't, I can't remember who it's at, but yeah.
00:39:02
killianginnity
yeah ah um Ryan Cessignon got released from Tottenham, which I think could be an interesting one. Nicholas Pepe is without a club. Joel Matip is without a club. Dele Alli, Iker Mounin, Matt Homels, yeah.
00:39:17
Glennon
Delhi Ali's without a club.
00:39:19
killianginnity
Yasim Ben Yeder for those um football the FIFA Ultimate Team Heroes. and Marco Royce is without a club. John Egan on the Ireland end of things. Alfred Duncan, Davey Classen, Rafina.
00:39:33
Glennon
Marco Roy stinks of the MLS. Surely he's going there.
00:39:37
killianginnity
I think that that is the the link. Rafinha, brother of Tiago, formerly of Barcelona.
00:39:42
Nate
Oh yeah. Barasa.
00:39:45
killianginnity
Serge Aurier, he's been at a club, but Paddy McNair, Mohammed Elny.
00:39:49
Glennon
It's a lot of Tottenham boyos knocking around, you know what I'm saying?
00:39:52
killianginnity
Yeah. um Ricardo Rodriguez, who at all had a good euros and for Switzerland.
00:39:54
Nate
Yeah,
00:39:57
killianginnity
and Martin Brantwaite of Barcelona and Middlesbrough fame.
00:40:01
Nate
Sarawai.
00:40:02
killianginnity
Pjanic is on a free, like, there's a lot of
00:40:05
Glennon
That's one I'd be interested in.
00:40:08
killianginnity
I think his sell-by date was about five years ago.
00:40:09
Nate
yes alright
00:40:10
killianginnity
DeMaria just today re-signed with Benfica.
00:40:14
Glennon
Oh.
00:40:16
killianginnity
I don't think he was ever officially released, but his contract did come to an end.
00:40:21
killianginnity
Munir, Sergio Roberto, Brandon Williams from United. and Elgazi just won a lawsuit for wrongful termination over a tweeting support for Palestinians.
00:40:32
Glennon
That was, yeah, I was supposed to say that was the Palestine one, wasn't it?
00:40:34
killianginnity
Yeah, Alexei Sanchez, Sergio Ramos, Aaron Connolly, i Ireland striker, he's currently without a club, um who I think will be a savvy and signing for Sunderland, although I believe there's kind of personality issues potentially. um Just, I don't know what the issues are.
00:40:50
Glennon
ah then Yeah, I mean, look, it's been playing there's been plenty of dicks that can put them in the back of the net and I'd have them in my team.
00:40:53
killianginnity
I don't think i don't think it's like anything particularly bad other than like, he might be a little bit of a dick, which you can grow out of that.
00:41:04
killianginnity
Yeah, like, i so I think he just needs the right manager to kind of take him under his wing. and Luciano Viejo, formerly of Electrical Madrid. He's on a free Patrick by now, formerly of Chelsea Crystal House on Sunderland. And John Brooks, the American centre back who was playing out in Germany. um Very, very solid.
00:41:23
Glennon
It's a fairly stacked free agency roster.
00:41:24
killianginnity
I think he'd be good on.
00:41:26
Glennon
you know like I know we're getting outside the the majors there, but you know even if you're a midway team, there's there's a lot in there.
00:41:33
killianginnity
Yeah, Hélder Costa, Ivan Carrillo, both of which came true at Wolves. Like, there is some deals to be had, and I think even a some of the kind of savvier big teams could pick up a decent backup.
00:41:46
Nate
What do you think of Delhi Ali? Do you think he's still...
00:41:49
Glennon
i I think at one point he had a frightening amount of potential.
00:41:54
Nate
That's
00:41:57
Glennon
That's obvious.
00:41:58
killianginnity
Do you think he was better at his top than Jude Bellingham is now?
00:42:02
Nate
the question I'm starting the week and it's going to be...
00:42:04
Glennon
I saw that tweet too.
Player Comparisons and Future Speculations
00:42:06
Glennon
and it I don't, ah what I'd say like I'm sitting on the fence. I don't know, but it definitely made me stop and think I put it that way.
00:42:13
killianginnity
It rings a little bit true.
00:42:15
Nate
I think so. like I think like the level he was playing at, contribution wise, I think probably better at that age, but yeah.
00:42:27
Glennon
Which sounds insane because Duke Bellingham just won the league, at ah the Champions League, and got to finally the final of the Euros.
00:42:34
Nate
yeah I just think contribution to the team was the deliality at that time contributed more in my opinion but like obviously say like the decline has been astronomical
00:42:39
killianginnity
i think
00:42:48
Glennon
Oh, yeah. But I do think to be fair to him, there's there's more to that than just athletic ability dwindling.
00:42:48
killianginnity
Yeah.
00:42:55
Glennon
It's it's it's more of a mental health issue, you know?
00:42:57
killianginnity
Yeah, and like I'd love him to go to somewhere like the MLS, um not just because of the the quality, which I think the MLS is an underrated league. We saw how good Shaqiri was it during the Euros and he's playing out in Chicago for about four years now.
00:43:06
Glennon
Yeah.
00:43:10
killianginnity
So like, I think it's underwriting that aspect, but also just for him as a person to kind of get away from where everybody knows him and knows his, his personal story now.
00:43:19
Glennon
You know, you know where code work and a Como.
00:43:21
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:43:23
Nate
Or even like a fra even like a Frankfurt in Germany, I'd like to see something like that. like I think a lot of players get stuck in England. like I really do.
00:43:33
Glennon
Yeah.
00:43:34
Nate
I think it's such an issue.
00:43:34
killianginnity
yeah
00:43:36
Nate
Inflated wages, like close to home. like Just go and try it. like i like I do think there's stuff to be said about reigniting your career and in different ways, and I think that could be a way.
00:43:49
Glennon
Speaking of speaking of stuck in England one man who possibly might be is none other than Jaden Sancho What are we saying about him boys?
00:43:49
killianginnity
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:43:59
Nate
yeah oh lads i don't know what jade's answer like um he's come back in it's only come up this morning that they're interested so i i don't have too much to say other than i hope it's real yeah
00:43:59
killianginnity
Nate, you take this one.
00:44:05
Glennon
is Is the PSG thing real?
00:44:15
Glennon
but but but This is what I was going to say. so like It seems like, at least publicly, Tenhag is back there and they've buried the hatchet a wee bit. If he was to stick around for an next season, are you happy about it?
00:44:28
Nate
yeah a like I don't think he I don't think him being here is make or break like I really don't um I don't I really don't um and I think our attacking talent is so filled that if he doesn't have the right attitude it's probably a flaw to have him um so I'd be happy to
00:44:32
killianginnity
D is Needham.
00:44:36
Glennon
I do think it is right. I think you need him.
00:44:48
Glennon
That's a fair point.
00:44:52
Nate
cash in on them and reinvest that money.
00:44:54
Glennon
What do you think he can go for him?
00:44:56
Nate
I think 30 to 40 is probably fair, maybe 50.
00:45:00
Glennon
Yeah, I think 40 is probably the ceiling. I don't know. What are you saying, Kil?
00:45:04
killianginnity
um like Ultimately, I'm very much always the case of I'd rather and less talented players that fit a the dressing room. um So like if he does have attitude problems or if there's even an inclination of that, get rid of him. I don't think you're going to get any more than 40. And I think even at that, it'll be a structured 40.
00:45:26
Glennon
Yeah.
00:45:28
killianginnity
He's going to take a big hit on them.
00:45:30
Nate
I mean, if you're getting 30 for Greenwood, like, if you're for Sanjo, I don't think it's crazy.
00:45:34
killianginnity
Yeah, but.
00:45:38
Glennon
30 for Greenwood was a phenomenal, like, forget about all the politics around that transfer and park that for a second. Like 30 million for him is very good.
00:45:48
Nate
Yeah, it's huge for FFP as well, like, all round.
00:45:50
Glennon
Yeah.
00:45:51
killianginnity
Yeah, um but like yeah I think you have a bigger problem in the terms of Anthony, like if you can get rid of him, that'd be ideal.
00:45:59
Glennon
No one would want him, surely.
00:46:01
Nate
I just don't think you're getting rid of Auntie and to be honest, wages wise, Sancho will be on a lot more, trust me. So I think getting Sancho out, getting 40 to 50 million back in, they can reinvest. And not only 40 to 50 million back in, like you're talking like 16 to 70 million in wages back in as well a year. I think there's there's definitely advantages.
00:46:33
killianginnity
Yeah, but like I think once ah whatever happens with Sancho, I think your next problem is Anthony because like you have gone out this window and actually done some clever moves and have been proactive.
Manchester United's Strategic Signings
00:46:43
killianginnity
nature
00:46:43
Glennon
Ashford's been cooking, boys.
00:46:44
Nate
I know, I I don't recognize my cloak. So like our first our first actual sign in was Joshua Zurgsy from Bologna, which I thought which we actually sniped from AC Milan, which I thought was a very good bit of business. and
00:47:02
killianginnity
mild He came true at Byron, didn't he?
00:47:03
Glennon
Good optics, too.
00:47:04
Nate
like yeah and it made It made me look into Bologna a bit, and they had an awesome season last season. They they built a really good squad, they had a really good manager. and So like I really do think we're getting in a really good player that can contribute.
00:47:14
killianginnity
tiacgo mare
00:47:20
Nate
I think him along with Hoyland, you know like I think it's a really good partnership. I'd rather have two young strikers rather it than before where we had two old strikers. So um I'm very happy with that business. What do you think about them?
00:47:36
killianginnity
I think he's very, very impressive. Like he, a couple of years ago when he kind of, like, so he came through a barn and then he had a couple of loans, but I think it was at Anderlecht where he kind of made his name.
00:47:48
Nate
Yeah.
00:47:48
killianginnity
And then I thought he was fine during the euros. Um, I don't think he, like, I think he had a game or two where he kind of looked like he could have been the guy and he just didn't quite have the.
00:47:58
Glennon
I think a lot of players were like that in the years to be fair.
00:48:00
killianginnity
Oh yeah, no I'm not saying it to kind of discredit him more to the fact that like he had good spells of games when there was a lot of other 90 million pound English strikers that didn't even have that. um So like I think he's he's exciting. um I think it's such a non-man United transfer that I don't know how he's going to play with him and I hope he's not removing him.
00:48:24
Nate
I liked, and I liked different players, how he's willing to go out and take that little step down from Bayern and go to a Bologna, re-get going as his sort of trade. And the big thing that sticks out to me personally about this deal is that he's on 75 grand a week, which is which is not like unheard of at Manchester.
00:48:43
Glennon
That's mad.
00:48:45
killianginnity
relative pittance for you. Yeah.
00:48:48
Nate
like da
00:48:48
killianginnity
Where do where do you see I'm playing?
00:48:50
Nate
and So we can play a bit off the left and he can play behind the striker and I see us playing with formation, I see him and Hoyland coming in and out. There's a lot of games to be played and I think it's going to be a proper battle between him and Hoyland.
00:49:08
killianginnity
Hmm.
00:49:10
Glennon
jog my Jog my memory, transfer wise on TenHag's new deal. Who makes the decision final decision?
00:49:17
Nate
what What do you mean?
00:49:18
Glennon
In terms of signings, is is ah is it Dan Ashworth and the boys making the signings or does TenHag even have sight?
00:49:25
Nate
I think it's a proper team now. 10 Hags came out and said some proper, good quotes about and how it's working. He was like, it finally feels like there's a team in place.
00:49:36
Glennon
Okay.
00:49:36
Nate
and He said, like even like Dan Ashworth and Will Cox that have come in, he said, Dave actually explained to me what, when I make a deal, what consequences it has. So say, for example, the one that got brought up is Anthony, what consequences does that have in the following years? and
00:49:54
Glennon
yeah that's great
00:49:55
Nate
and to the club. So I think this is a really good relationship and I think 10 hag has properly like embraced this change which has which has been really promising.
00:50:06
killianginnity
it's It seems to be kind of a general setup of kind of going here's the Uh, here's the players that we approve of. You said you wanted to strike a striker or center back. Here's who we like. Is there any of these that you have a particular preference for? Cause we're, we're going towards him, but if you prefer him, we can look at that.
00:50:20
Nate
Yeah.
00:50:25
Glennon
So it's basically we're getting one of them. Who do you fancy the most?
00:50:27
Nate
yeah the lads yeah and the lads the sign and that really excites me is 18 year old with any euro 60
00:50:28
killianginnity
Yeah, but I think even then they have a kind of like, here's who we want, but if you would prefer somebody else and thinking more out of them, we'll listen to you.
00:50:36
Glennon
Yeah.
00:50:41
killianginnity
Mm-hmm. Again, the least Man United move I've seen in a long time.
00:50:47
Nate
million euro which is about 53 54 million pounds and I think it's a great bit of business. Real Madrid were seriously circling on this one and to be able to sign him in ah in a season that we're playing in the Europa League I think is really promising.
00:51:05
Glennon
Well, that's my concern with it, mate.
00:51:06
Nate
and
00:51:07
Glennon
Is it a case of if Real Madrid are offering you, you know, obviously Real Madrid are arguably the best team in the world right now. It means United definitely have to add to offer him more money. Is he there for the cash? Because the other question is in my head, I think he had a year left on his deal. So if it was me, I would have potentially held out. But going back to the Madrid thing, do you think, why do you think he turned down Madrid and went to United?
00:51:33
killianginnity
Well, he didn't turn on Madrid. He was waiting for Madrid.
00:51:35
Nate
Majid didn't come in yet, but I think the really promising thing was the initiative that we showed to go out and go like, listen lad, you're coming with us. ah Like the fee of 53 million pounds, that's quite high for someone with one year left, but this guy's 18 years old. This could be a centre back for the next decade.
00:51:55
Glennon
that's fair
00:51:56
Nate
and He's on, I believe, 120,000 pounds, which is, not extortionate for what we we pay like like when you're talking about Harry Maguire beside him which would be on like 260 270 so Varan who was on 350 like this it makes so much financial sense and i'm just i'm over the moon with this deal personally i
00:52:12
killianginnity
and you got rid of ran on what was a 350.
00:52:20
Glennon
That's fair. But him with him in deluxe as a duo, that could be frighteningly good.
00:52:27
Nate
but also the Sandro Martinez who's there like on the left and it just yeah so we're looking to sign one more centre back and it's between Braithwaite who's that everton and
00:52:32
killianginnity
Is the Licta even still on the cards?
00:52:42
killianginnity
who don't seem to be moving at all on that fee.
00:52:44
Nate
yeah we even tried to like be be a bit dark horses with it when they were uh when the takeover thing came in we slapped a bit in that night but yeah um it's looking like the lift and the lift is looking like a quality deal as well um we look like we could be getting them for 35 40 million which is
00:53:05
Glennon
That's an absolute steal.
00:53:07
Nate
absolute steal and he's willing to take a pay cut to come to United so 160 I believe so like he's willing to take a pay cut to come to United which shows ambition I think that deal is ticking a lot of boxes so like I don't I don't think so like I think probably Ashworth has gone out and I've found a really profitable deal that that works in United's favor and
00:53:11
Glennon
What's he on?
00:53:19
Glennon
Yeah. Is that the Ten High connection getting you him though?
00:53:37
Nate
midfield wise, we're looking at you guys, the PSG.
00:53:44
Nate
I had to read up on him, but he looks like a really good profile of player that we need as someone to sit in beside Maynu and hold the foreside type of thing. So I think he's a very positive player that that we're looking to to jump on to next as well. So lads, I'm over the moon with how we're running this summer.
00:54:03
Glennon
Well, you seem, you seem to be doing it the right way for once, you know, and it seems to really be a stupid business with calculated signings, looking at how they're going to fit in the team. And yes, the numbers are relatively high. But when, when you say, for example, he's 19 or 18, I mean, if that works out for you, you could have him for 10 years.
00:54:22
Nate
And I think the big thing as well is like rivals generally think scared how we're moving this summer, like, which speaks a lot to how we have been, like, recently, like, you know, how, you know, in the bin we go out and sign the most expensive play there is. But there generally seems to be a bit of fear surrounding how we're not doing that, you know what I mean? So lads, I'm over the moon and I think there's a lot more deals to be done this summer.
00:54:50
Glennon
through it.
00:54:50
killianginnity
I think Newcastle are feeling the brunt of not having Ashworth and seeing United have the benefit of. Connor, how are you feeling about, um well, one, Lewis Hall arriving, but two, the general kind of transforming lays
Newcastle's Transfer Challenges and Needs
00:55:05
killianginnity
up in the the Northeast?
00:55:05
Glennon
Yeah, like, you know, I said last week that the wheels aren't coming off, but they're getting squeaky. I don't really understand our transfers, this window, like it was great to get Lewis, you know, that like, I kind of don't even came to him because he was already part of the squad, but like, You know, Lloyd Kelly. Okay. Fine. Um, there's two players that have come in in the last couple of days who I don't even know and can't even pronounce. So I won't try butcher them on air, but even, I think the signing of John Ruddy really just kind of makes us look a bit rudderless.
00:55:38
killianginnity
ah
00:55:44
Glennon
If you know what I mean.
00:55:45
killianginnity
I don't think you can hold that one against yourself like in fairness when yeah that when you've had the likes of United sign like Tom Heaton and stuff over the last kind of couple of years it's kind of the done thing now yeah it's kind of the done thing just to have um a vibes backup third choice goalkeeper
00:55:51
Glennon
Yeah. or city of a car center, or whatever, yeah.
00:56:01
Glennon
i am I am worried um what's going on with the Eddie Howe situation. um His comments have been relatively loaded to the media. um And you know I reached out to a good pal of mine who was also unfortunate enough to be a Newcastle fan. and
00:56:20
Nate
you
00:56:20
killianginnity
Thanks.
00:56:22
Glennon
He was saying that he he thinks there's been so much change above how this summer that he's starting to realise that he won't have the control control of the players around him. um and i do wonder is is With Ashwick gone, it's how you kind of going, oh, what are we looking at here? Especially with, you know, it seems like they went behind his back trying to sell Anthony Gordon for ah FFP reasons. I'm getting a bit worried because if I'm not saying that Eddie Howe's irreplaceable, I don't, I don't, a lot of Toon fans do. I personally don't think that, but we're really up shit creek would without a paddle.
00:57:00
Glennon
because of the managers who were available, I don't know of them who'd go to the tune if how does go because even from a pay point of view, like how's on six million a year at Newcastle, the England job were given, say, five million a year. So even if he would, I don't think he'd really care about taking the step down financially because it being the England job.
00:57:20
Nate
I think there's a huge division problem at Newcastle and I think the portion of that is down to my club coming and taking it as a sporting director but I think it's a big worry now. like You can sort of understand why Newcastle are fighting as much to like not let them go but I think
00:57:39
Glennon
100%.
00:57:41
killianginnity
But they've paid for their hubris over
00:57:43
Nate
Yeah, but I think the big thing now is like, okay, you' he's brought in an Isaac, Bruno Gamarraj, Tenali, Botman, Trippier, who's looking like he's going to fade away sort of at Newcastle now and not really get much of his, not much of the like excitement that you had when you got him, Gordon as well. It's like, they should be at the point now where they're making statement signs. And it feels like we're a long way away from that now.
00:58:10
Glennon
We just don't have the cash is is is the issue. Like, I mean, ah you know, that was the biggest worry for me this summer that, you know, by June 30th, which is the deadline for, I think it's a PSF as they call it, but we needed to shift 55 million worth of players. And, you know, we've talked about this off air on air that, you know, this whole man city charges thing. Next up is Chelsea and probably us, but like us shifting Elliot Anderson, who I think is a brilliant footballer, but he is not a 40 million pound footballer.
00:58:42
Nate
Yeah and I think the huge issue now which is easy to see is like you can have all the money in the world being the BIF but if people that you employ get taken or you don't have the right people in place to run it, it could really run around and I think if I was Newcastle fan I'd be like okay lads come out and speak to us what are we doing?
00:58:42
killianginnity
No.
00:59:06
Nate
Do you know what I mean?
00:59:07
Glennon
I also worry for Howe because Howe's biggest stand in terms of the boardroom was Amanda Stavly, who is now departed alongside her husband from the club.
00:59:07
Nate
and
00:59:18
Nate
But personally, if I was a Newcastle fan, I wouldn't be worried about Liz now. and just purity Just purely where the club's at.
00:59:25
killianginnity
I completely agree.
00:59:29
Nate
I feel like, number one, he's gonna probably go out and get a better manager. Number two, I think he might not even be the manager that can guide you through this, where money's a bit tight, where you know you've got these hyper talented players but it's about adding to them what you use probably now more. and I wouldn't be worried about those of how I'd be, part of me would probably be like, it might be the perfect ending to how I ran a new castle.
01:00:02
Glennon
my my You could be right. and you know i I'm not going to die on the hill of of how it's essential to us because I just don't think he is. I just wish if we were to get rid of how that we weren't doing it coming into August, you know what I mean?
01:00:19
Nate
Yeah.
01:00:19
killianginnity
You know, that's user paying for your own hubris when it came to Ashford. Use delays, the inevitable, and our paying for it use ourselves. Like, this is it your own fault, but user replaced Ashford with Paul Mitchell, which I think is very, very solid.
01:00:35
Glennon
I was happy with that. Yeah.
01:00:37
killianginnity
Like he was part, he was the key scout in bringing the likes of Delialis, Son, Trippier, Aliviral to Tottenham. So he was, and then he went to and the rail Red Bull group and then he was at Monaco and now he's with you. So like he has a proper um pedigree.
01:00:58
Glennon
I think it was between him and Wilcox who he would have gone for, and obviously Wilcox went to United, so I'm very, very happy with that. I just, what worries me is, for you know, directors of football, be it Ashworths, whoever, you know, regardless of how a club is functioning, when a new one comes in, they have their own plan. And it look, it may be a better plan that helps elevate the tune, but We've gone through a lot in the last couple of years, and I just don't want someone coming in trying to reinvent the wheel, but maybe we need that, I don't know.
01:01:28
Nate
Like say, go on, say, so say you've let hell go now, yeah?
01:01:29
killianginnity
Well, like, tough. Gone.
01:01:34
Glennon
Yeah.
01:01:35
Nate
There's just a little, some managers that are are available, Zidani's probably won't get. Conte, Potter, Pochettino, Joaquin Long, Marie.
01:01:43
Glennon
Do you think any of them would be interested to really
01:01:46
Nate
I think Pochettino might be a great manager to join me on.
01:01:50
Glennon
I'd adore that, but I just, do you think you want to live up north and, you know?
01:01:51
killianginnity
Yeah.
01:01:54
Nate
I think you need to be sold on it, like I do.
01:01:57
killianginnity
If only he had had money.
01:01:57
Glennon
Like it ain't Como.
01:01:59
Nate
or like the the managers has found out to me in this will be a potter. Although he's not a man who's the biggest fan. I don't know what someone here he is.
01:02:08
killianginnity
this
01:02:08
Nate
Pochettino, Tutile, Dzirby, Shavi.
01:02:13
killianginnity
Shavi.
01:02:14
Glennon
I wouldn't want Xavier to serve me, but, and I think Touko wouldn't be interested in us.
01:02:18
killianginnity
ah deserve be that maammer say um But there's like Alegri, there's Terzitch.
01:02:20
Glennon
Oh, okay.
01:02:22
Nate
Like there just there's options. Benitez, Benitez.
01:02:28
killianginnity
Um, there's Sergio Concero from Porto.
01:02:34
killianginnity
Um, there's there's Moyes, like whatever anybody says about him. He's like, if you yeah, like there, there is, as Nathan says, there is some solid managers out there, but like, the like sari is even available.
01:02:38
Glennon
I'd be open to that. I actually would.
01:02:47
killianginnity
Um, but like, don't forget, it would be, it would be great.
01:02:47
Nate
I think the patches are much made in the heaven. I really do.
01:02:52
killianginnity
Um, but like, don't forget, like most new castle fans were very underwhelmed when how we came in.
01:02:57
Glennon
Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah.
01:02:59
killianginnity
And we said a long time ago that was he the man to get you to the next level? Possibly not, but he was the man to kind of steady the ship.
01:03:08
Glennon
And that's what he's done to be fair.
01:03:08
killianginnity
And maybe now, maybe now it's time to start looking at getting on the next wrong of the ladder.
01:03:09
Glennon
Yeah.
01:03:10
Nate
Yeah, actually... i I think you're hitting it in the head there, like just going through the rationale in my brain there. It's like, okay, you get this investment, how it comes in, you sound very happy with it, you do the best that you probably have done in like God knows how long, you're gonna build an attachment to that. And I think he's could sort of become blinded by this guy has got us this far, but at some point he's need to go,
01:03:31
killianginnity
Mmhmm.
01:03:39
Nate
He's not he's up the guy to take us out. like We can thank you as much as we can for what you've done, but now is the time to to move on, you know what I mean? And I think Newcastle need to become careful and have become blinded by we've made it this far so far, you know what I mean?
01:03:56
Glennon
I couldn't have said it better myself. And I'll tell you what, boys, players will come, players will go, managers will come, managers will go, but they're not a pun. A podcast will always be here. Thank you very much, boys, as always.
01:04:09
Nate
Pleasure.
01:04:09
Glennon
And here's to the next one.
01:04:09
Nate
it