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Ep. 15: Stir (welding) the Pot
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Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as the Canada Pen and the perils of not paying attention to your machines.
Links Discussed:
- Roetz4.0 https://www.youtube.com/@Roetz40
- Anchor Point Newsletter https://anchorpointnews.my.canva.site/
- Anchor Point Rant https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3OTI3MjIwODg0OTIwODU3?story_media_id=3326691877383692295_4140157396&igsh=MWViY2RoanR6aWN4dg==
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
- Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
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Transcript
Daily Reflections and Weather
00:00:47
jamie peacock
Oh, how are you doing today?
00:00:49
Curt
I'm doing fantastic. how are you doing this evening, Jamie?
00:00:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, carrying on. Finished machining 100 bits and bobs and now doing the second and third ops halfway through that and then stopped for dinner and podcast.
00:01:03
Curt
Nice. Yeah. it's the first time I can be doing our podcast without a sweater on because finally summer is here.
00:01:08
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah.
00:01:09
Curt
So yeah.
00:01:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, till it snows, you get another light dusting.
00:01:13
Curt
I think i think we're good i think we're good. I'm going to say it. I think we're good now. It's like 17 degrees today or something. It's going to be lovely.
00:01:18
jamie peacock
Well, we actually, we had a cold weekend, I wore long pants.
00:01:22
Curt
Ooh.
00:01:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, my neighbors, my neighbors, was like, Are you feeling okay? Because I never wear long pants. But I knew i was going to be in the workshop, and there's a through breeze, if I have the back door open. So I'm like, just wear long pants and be comfortable.
00:01:35
jamie peacock
I then ended up in the roof and long pants. But yeah, that was less than present.
00:01:39
Curt
Nice.
00:01:40
jamie peacock
But I did some fancy stuff in my roof, which I'm sure we'll dive into later on in the podcast, because it is one of my topics.
00:01:45
Curt
Yeah, I ah saw some of that, so.
00:01:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was great
Weekend Projects and Machining Insights
00:01:51
jamie peacock
fun. So yeah, what have you been up to?
00:01:54
Curt
Oh, nothing. Launched all the Canadian pens this weekend. Did a first come first serve sale. Those were snapped up with the quickness. So I will definitely be building more of those. um Oddly enough, I didn't get any.
00:02:04
Curt
Usually every drop I get some form of hate mail or messages or someone lights me up somewhere. But this one was pleasant. So it was kind of nice. I now just kind of cower away from the internet for like a day or two after sales just to avoid like
00:02:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:15
Curt
any of the weirdness. um But yeah, this one was, this one, everyone was, everyone was cool. So that's kind of cool. I keep saying it's because it was only open to Canadians, but that makes, yeah, that makes the American people a little bit, a little testy.
00:02:20
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:02:23
jamie peacock
Yes, you guys are Pilate AF.
00:02:28
Curt
So we'll just say that it was just chance.
00:02:29
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, well, America, North America, same thing.
00:02:35
Curt
Yeah. Something like that
00:02:35
jamie peacock
Although after this week, sure. But I think we'll leave that for for next week's.
00:02:40
Curt
that.
00:02:40
jamie peacock
Once we know a little bit more, we'll leave it let's leave it for next week.
00:02:43
Curt
Sounds, sounds terrific. Yeah, ah
00:02:47
jamie peacock
Things escaped from my desk. to the downstairs
00:02:51
Curt
but how's been your today? Hmm.
00:02:54
jamie peacock
uh yeah been uh running the same parts for like three days because keep getting distracted or doing family things because obviously weekends people want to be all family like um but yeah i've been running material got delivered on friday and delivering 200 complete parts tomorrow
00:03:15
Curt
Nice.
00:03:16
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've been cranking.
00:03:17
Curt
That's pretty quick then.
00:03:17
jamie peacock
Like, machine running with tool brake detection just let it chooch.
00:03:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:03:20
jamie peacock
Like, I literally, I needed to go to the shop. I pushed auto power down, got in my truck, drove to the shop. Machine finished the cycle, turned off, came back, turned it back on, carried on
Machining Mishaps and Recovery Strategies
00:03:30
jamie peacock
running. Like, yeah.
00:03:31
Curt
Nice.
00:03:32
jamie peacock
Tool brake detected.
00:03:32
Curt
Those are the ones...
00:03:33
jamie peacock
Actually, it caught the first broken tool.
00:03:37
Curt
Ooh.
00:03:37
jamie peacock
This last week, yeah.
00:03:37
Curt
Ooh.
00:03:38
jamie peacock
So I was running, it's meant to be 40 by 40 millimeters for our imperial friends. That is, I really need to put the keycaps on this thing. ah Like 1.6 inches by 1.6 inches square.
00:03:51
jamie peacock
But it's not out of bar, it's out of plate. So the guy saw cuts it. And it ends up being a little bit longer. So I was taking a little bit of an aggressive, like I ran, think I was on the, this was the fourth bar that I was running.
00:03:59
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:04:05
jamie peacock
But I had pulled stuff out of my my scrap bin because I always order one or two extra pieces and then just throw them in the excess bin. And I had enough to run the whole job. So I started running and I could see there was square. So I started with those.
00:04:17
jamie peacock
Set up this one and I'm like, ooh, it's taking a bit of a heavy cut on the side, but it should be okay. It got three layers down, come salami slicing them off. Then broke my six millimeter tool.
00:04:30
Curt
Mm.
00:04:30
jamie peacock
It then chamfered the parts that were still in the block. plunged my three mil in and got two thirds of the way around there, slotting at two times diameter or two times diameter depth.
00:04:39
Curt
Nice.
00:04:41
jamie peacock
It did frigging well. And then I broke the tool. And then I'm only doing brake detect on the two and three millimeter tools. So I then threw an arrow in went to go touch off the three millimeter tool.
00:04:53
jamie peacock
So then the next block that was also a bit wide, I just threw in and just decked the side off quickly. So it's kind of close to 40 millimeters. And then those ran flawlessly.
00:05:01
jamie peacock
I actually did their second op today on mar the the video I made for the anchor points, that palette, where I put eight
00:05:01
Curt
Nice.
Efficiency in Processes and Tooling Challenges
00:05:10
jamie peacock
parts at time. Yeah, I did that op this afternoon.
00:05:12
jamie peacock
It took me less than 30 minutes to machine 100 parts to do their little holes.
00:05:16
Curt
Nice.
00:05:18
jamie peacock
And while that was happening, my workshop was incredibly loud because I was tumbling things.
00:05:24
Curt
Oh, nice. Yeah, that would make and make it very annoying to be in.
00:05:25
jamie peacock
Yes. So as you can see, tumbling, hands in front of yeah tumbling the number one topic every week. Yeah, put
00:05:33
Curt
I like how you put it in bold too.
00:05:34
jamie peacock
it in bold as well, just because this is the tumbling cost.
00:05:37
jamie peacock
um That tumbler just keeps being amazing. I tumbled 100 pots in one go. Last time having to do them in batches of, I think, 20. And it was taking like two or three hours.
00:05:38
Curt
ah
00:05:48
jamie peacock
I threw 100 pots in and 25 minutes later, I fished them out of the tumbler.
00:05:49
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:05:52
Curt
Sick.
00:05:53
jamie peacock
It was that quick.
00:05:54
Curt
That's awesome.
00:05:54
jamie peacock
that Yeah, it was insane.
00:05:55
Curt
That's awesome.
00:05:56
jamie peacock
Now, while I did the one op, it tumbled and then I'm back, I'm doing the second and third ops now. So those will be done tomorrow morning when I get back in the workshop. I'm not going to go back in this evening. um But yeah, those are running. It's like it was a five and a half minute cycle.
00:06:10
jamie peacock
and then i remembered just because that's how you did it last time doesn't mean that's how you have to do it this time so i went and i updated my tool parts using pre-tools presets which are pretty good like starting points
00:06:14
Curt
yeah
00:06:24
jamie peacock
Um, that took two minutes off the cycle time, two minutes off a five minute cycle time. So it's like significant.
00:06:29
Curt
Oh, wow. Yeah, that's significant.
00:06:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:31
jamie peacock
Especially when you've got hundred of these flipping cycles. So now it's, it's just on three minutes of cycle that does my op, uh, my op two and my op three and then yeah, pots are done. So then they'll get washed, vacuum bagged and shipped out.
00:06:31
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:44
Curt
I say that's a nice thing sometimes about like quote unquote crashing a machine, like how you took like that really beefy cut with a three mil. It just sometimes teaches you like, oh, this cutter can take 500% more than what I'm throwing at it.
00:06:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:55
Curt
And just like, okay, well, I guess I could beef this up a little bit.
00:06:55
jamie peacock
Well, I was running ah was running my 2mm cutter at like, I think it was 100mm a minute or 98mm a minute or something.
00:07:06
jamie peacock
It's running at now. My 3mm cutter was doing like 300mm minute.
00:07:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:11
jamie peacock
It's doing 1.4m a minute. It's freaking zooming.
00:07:14
jamie peacock
And it hasn't broken even my 1mm cutter. um We got a recurring job. we used to actually run it on the old... the before I built the Slowio, the machine I had for that, I used to run this job on there.
00:07:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:27
jamie peacock
Like I kept the machine around for that.
00:07:28
Curt
yeah
00:07:29
jamie peacock
We did a couple thousand of these, but it was four tool changes for every part, which kind of got old really quickly. So now I've set it up in the LK, running a one millimeter end mill, but because that other machine was, a wet noodle is pi polite, but a very polite way to describe it.
00:07:35
Curt
no
00:07:45
jamie peacock
I ran that tool through toolpath and turns out I can go at like 400 mils minute. So a cut another couple of minutes of another cycle time just by updating my default feeds and speeds.
00:07:52
Curt
Nice.
00:08:00
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
00:08:00
jamie peacock
No.
00:08:01
Curt
That's the ticket.
00:08:01
jamie peacock
So we did, yeah, we did 120 of those over the weekend as well.
00:08:06
Curt
That's awesome. That's it's the problem. It's like, it's so easy just to stay stagnant.
00:08:06
jamie peacock
Done.
00:08:08
Curt
I'm like, Oh, it worked last time.
00:08:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:08:09
Curt
So I'll just keep doing It's like, no, you like, you might be leaving a ton on the table and you just never know unless you, like I said, just push it a little bit.
00:08:15
jamie peacock
Exactly. Yeah, just push it just a little bit. You don't have to go like extreme, but just a little bit and...
00:08:19
Curt
Yep.
00:08:22
jamie peacock
Those little improvements add up very, very quickly. Like now I'm buying a, well, I assume you you saw some of my my things there, the melted MGMN holders.
00:08:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:08:38
Curt
Oh yeah. saw when you, yeah, you friction stir welded with that thing.
00:08:40
jamie peacock
I melted one. And then I proceeded to melt a second one because I keep a spare because, yeah, I keep a spare on hand because they are a critical tool.
00:08:42
Curt
no. Oh no.
00:08:48
jamie peacock
Like a lot of my lathe work on Bertha uses that tool. So I keep a spare. I proceeded to kill the spare. I was running 303 stainless, but I was running it and I was doing other stuff so it was unattended.
00:08:55
Curt
oh no
00:09:00
jamie peacock
And the insert failed because I was basically using a grooving cycle. So I'm only using the first millimeter of that insert and then it plunges.
00:09:07
Curt
Right.
00:09:08
jamie peacock
And when it plunged, I think it shattered the inserts and then just stir welded all 2.2 kilowatts of stir welding twice.
00:09:14
Curt
Oh.
00:09:16
Curt
Oh, ah wow.
00:09:17
jamie peacock
So I've got to order i've got order another one. There's a local supplier. I can order it. lot like If I sent them a cut ah quote now, a request for quotes, I would probably get it in the next half an hour. the I'd get a response at 7 o'clock at night.
00:09:30
jamie peacock
And then I would pay for it now. It would be shipped tomorrow morning. I'd have it tomorrow afternoon. Like their service is insane.
00:09:35
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:09:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:37
Curt
Okay, that's not so bad then.
00:09:37
jamie peacock
But I'm buying, yeah. I'm buying a 25 millimeter left-handed WNMG boring bar. So up till now, I've been using a 16 millimeter left-handed CCMT boring bar for the one of the job, like heavy repeat jobs we do.
00:09:54
jamie peacock
But I want to go to something more rigid that actually breaks a chip.
00:09:57
jamie peacock
So I'm like, meh, it's, yeah, I'm going to say it's a couple hundred bucks, but I know no one's, they're going to think it's expensive. It's $32 for a boring ball
00:09:57
Curt
Okay.
00:10:07
Curt
Wow. Yeah, that's insane.
00:10:08
jamie peacock
It's really for nothing. um it's from i know it's straight I know it's from China.
00:10:10
Curt
That's nuts.
00:10:12
jamie peacock
I know he imports all his stuff, but that's fine. It'll do the trick.
00:10:15
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:16
jamie peacock
I'm running one of his now, and it's been fine. So yeah, shout out to Midway Tools.
Tooling Options and Cost Management
00:10:21
jamie peacock
They're local place here South Africa, and their service is on point. Like, Sean, he hasn't let me down yet.
00:10:28
Curt
Oh, that's awesome.
00:10:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, like, I've bought a lot of stuff from him.
00:10:30
Curt
That's so cool.
00:10:32
jamie peacock
But he also, like, if you buy... You can tell what market he's aiming at. I'm going let you guess which market when I tell you what he does. So if you buy a tool holder from him, like an insert tool holder, it comes with an insert.
00:10:44
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:10:47
Curt
OK.
00:10:48
jamie peacock
Because he's aiming at the hobbyists.
00:10:50
Curt
Oh, OK. I see. I see.
00:10:52
jamie peacock
So you buy a tool holder, like you don't, as a hobbyist, you don't necessarily know, oh, I must buy some inserts. Like I'm like, cool, I'm buying thing.
00:10:57
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:10:58
jamie peacock
I need to buy some inserts, obviously. He also sells in loose inserts, which is kind of cool if you're a hobbyist, but I tend to just be like, cool, give me 10 of them, please.
00:11:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:07
jamie peacock
His pricing's really good. I know they're from China, but they do the trick. You because stuff works.
00:11:11
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. That was just kind of. the same time or the same thing when I started buying like proper tooling like I'm like oh let's buy I'm like this oh this holder isn't much and I was like oh it's only like 100 and whatever something bucks and I was like oh but then I gotta to buy the inserts I'm like oh they're 10 bucks a piece oh and I gotta buy 10 pack of them it's like oh okay okay but I mean it's
00:11:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:11:30
jamie peacock
Yeah. So got no Tega Tech here. I hate their inserts with a passion. They they are really great inserts. I don't hate them because of their performance. I hate them because they're non-flippin' arsehole. So if you buy, with them, if you buy three boxes of inserts, you get a free holder.
00:11:45
jamie peacock
Whip-dee-f. No, because you can do nothing with their holder except buy their inserts because they're non-standard.
00:11:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:11:51
jamie peacock
Like even their WNMG is like 20% smaller.
00:11:51
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:11:55
jamie peacock
Oh, it's smaller. It's less carbide. It's cheaper. No, you're locking me into your system. Like my one customer loves their stuff.
00:12:01
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:12:02
jamie peacock
and I'm like, dude, you are on drugs. Like just buy ISO standard stuff. If they don't have, you can buy somewhere else.
00:12:09
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:10
jamie peacock
No.
00:12:11
Curt
No, it's same thing.
00:12:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:11
Curt
Like when I tooled up my manual laid, I tooled it up with the exact same tooling that's in my hard engine. Cause like if I nuke any one of the tools and a't in any the machines, they just, they inter swap and it's like, it's so much easier.
00:12:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:12:19
jamie peacock
Exactly. Yeah, I know, keeping spares on hand, especially when running production, is like non-negotiable. I mean, that that first, um what's it, MGMN, the and grooving tool, the first one that I nuked, that thing is made probably close on 4,000 or 5,000 parts.
00:12:39
jamie peacock
Like, I've lost the inserts on it before, but I was there, so the where the insert sits was just a little ruined.
00:12:39
Curt
Nice. Yeah.
00:12:44
jamie peacock
I fixed it with a file. And it was running fine right up until it wasn't, and I wasn't there.
00:12:46
Curt
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00:12:50
jamie peacock
But that's why I keep a spare because I had two of those and I had to put one in and then I used my spare over the weekend and yeah, had to order another one.
00:12:59
Curt
Yeah. That's a nice thing.
00:13:00
jamie peacock
as And it happened, yeah.
00:13:00
Curt
That's where i have that's where I get like a slight advantage. Cause like most of my tool changes happen because of surface finish. It's not because the tools and cutting it's cause it's like, it's leaving a slight streak or a micro burn.
00:13:11
Curt
I was like, you know what?
00:13:11
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:12
Curt
It's not worth it for me to like put the time into finishing this. So I'm like, swap the insert out, which is nice. Cause I'm usually not grenading inserts.
00:13:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:18
Curt
I've grenaded drills. That sucks. But like, for the most part, I get to save bodies. Cause it's like, Oh, this is kind of cutting poor. It was probably still cut another, you know, 50% more parts, but it's just like, I'll swap it.
00:13:27
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:27
Curt
Like it's,
00:13:28
jamie peacock
Well, I mean, i run around one of... I can't remember which job it is, but I use the angled part-off tools. So it's it's not a square edge, it's a tapered one, and if you run slowly, you don't get a nubbin on your part. So you wrap it, you run in fast, and then the last couple of millimeters, you go really slowly, and you don't get a nubbin.
00:13:46
jamie peacock
um But those I know, I get 200 parts, and then I turn the insert around. I run 200 more parts, I put a new insert in. Don't run it till it breaks, just swap it ahead of when it's going to break so that...
00:13:57
jamie peacock
You don't have to deal with that.
00:13:59
Curt
Yeah,
Challenges with Hard Turning and Precision
00:14:00
jamie peacock
ah yeah We're going to see how well the EMCO does hard turning though.
00:14:00
Curt
totally.
00:14:05
Curt
Oh yeah, you're going to hard turn the pins, correct? For that cluster?
00:14:09
jamie peacock
Yes, I ran in into ah ran into some some issues this morning. Let's let's call them issues. So we have been buying the pins for the anchor points.
00:14:20
jamie peacock
They're really, really nice pins. I like them. The quality is really good. um But they don't hold the most stock locally. So I emailed them this morning. RFQ, please. Quantity I need. They're like, cool, we have two of the one and seven of the other in stock.
00:14:35
jamie peacock
So I'm like, sweet.
00:14:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:14:36
jamie peacock
What do you need from me to actually order the stock I want? No, you need to pay for the whole order in full and four weeks lead time.
00:14:43
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:14:44
jamie peacock
I was like, that's nice. Phoned my one customer. I'm coming over to measure dial pins and ejector pins.
00:14:50
Curt
enough,
00:14:51
jamie peacock
Because I know they use ejectors and they use punches and dials and whatever. Went through there. Ordered 50 dial pins. And I'm just going to throw them in the Emco. Turn the taper on. luck So those have got, as you saw in the Emco, it's got quite a steep taper on it.
00:15:05
jamie peacock
Going to basically turn that onto the dial pin.
00:15:06
Curt
yeah
00:15:07
jamie peacock
Hard turn it on. And then make a fixture to clamp the thing and machine one of the dial pins into a diamond.
00:15:15
Curt
but enough yeah
00:15:15
jamie peacock
Now, the only, so there there's only one drawback that I can foresee. Dial pins are not nominal. Dial pins are H7.
00:15:25
Curt
How you mean?
00:15:26
jamie peacock
So those pins on that anchor point you've got are 10 millimeters. Exactly.
00:15:31
Curt
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
00:15:32
jamie peacock
as accurate as I can imagine. The spec is 10 mil. The Alpin is 10 millimeters plus 20 microns, between 10 and 20 microns.
00:15:35
Curt
Right.
00:15:39
Curt
Ah, okay.
00:15:39
jamie peacock
It's an H7, so it's on the bigger side, which is not an issue if you're machining your own pallet.
00:15:46
jamie peacock
You just machine the hole a little bit bigger. So I'm have to update all my specs, but that's a minor minor concern. So, I mean, we're talking between between four and eight tenths bigger than the actual nominal nominal size.
00:15:47
Curt
Right.
00:15:58
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:16:00
jamie peacock
And that leads to not being able to just use off-the-shelf drill bushes.
00:16:07
Curt
Yeah, that's kind of annoying.
00:16:07
jamie peacock
Not really a deal breaker. it
00:16:09
Curt
ah Not for the cost of the palate, no.
00:16:11
jamie peacock
That's it. The pallet system is designed to be a cheap pallet system.
00:16:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:14
jamie peacock
So it would have been nice be able to just throw drill bushes in, but if it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. Because for the price of one of those pins, I ordered 50 dial pins today.
00:16:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:26
jamie peacock
I can literally throw 30 minutes at each one and still be out of ahead.
00:16:26
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:30
Curt
Well, and you're getting all the like all the um precision is coming still from the actual ground part of the dowel pin.
00:16:34
jamie peacock
is Yes.
00:16:36
Curt
like You're just machining.
00:16:37
jamie peacock
That's it.
00:16:37
Curt
you're You're taking away material on it.
00:16:38
jamie peacock
I'm machining the reliefs. Yeah.
00:16:40
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:40
jamie peacock
No, so that's a conversation I had with Danica this morning.
00:16:40
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:42
jamie peacock
She's like, can't you machine? And I'm like, I probably could. I don't even want to think about doing it.
00:16:48
Curt
Totally.
00:16:48
jamie peacock
because then I'm trying to hold an absolutely insane tight tolerance on a machine that's 35 years old.
00:16:48
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:16:55
jamie peacock
and It'll probably do it. Honestly, it'll probably do it, but it's okay, cool. Go buy silver steel. Then I must heat treat it. Then I must buy a dowel. This is silly.
00:17:04
Curt
Yeah, not worth.
00:17:06
jamie peacock
I ah think think 35 cents US cents per dowel pin.
00:17:13
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:17:15
jamie peacock
Hello, accuracy. I'm going to go spend $60 on two 5C collets, one for the Emco that is dedicated to this operation. So it'll get a stopper put in and it'll be, don't mess with it.
00:17:26
jamie peacock
It's perfect for this only because I have a 10 millimeter
00:17:30
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:17:32
jamie peacock
um collet, but I run hex bar through it. So I don't trust it.
00:17:37
Curt
Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, you deformed it or whatever.
00:17:38
jamie peacock
Yeah. um
00:17:39
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:17:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I'm worried I've deformed It's like for cutting brass, I don't really care. But so going to go buy one for that. And then I'm going do what's a turn back knife coded and make a thing for my something similar.
00:17:51
Curt
Oh, with his... With that little palette? Oh, it's so...
00:17:55
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:17:55
Curt
I love that.
00:17:55
jamie peacock
It's not, it's so good.
00:17:56
Curt
With all the little collets?
00:17:57
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I don't know. Getting those quality is a little bit tricky. Something of just using a five C. I was thinking of just making one that the five C screws into.
00:18:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:06
jamie peacock
It has a neck with a thread and then I just make a big k nut. Then I put a stick on go and tighten it.
00:18:10
jamie peacock
then, so the, the collet is always in the exact same place. The, the tightening mechanism moves up.
00:18:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:15
Curt
yeah
00:18:16
jamie peacock
So it's a dead stop collet effectively for in the, oh yeah.
00:18:19
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, for the people that are listening, this is just like a bunch of collets that are facing straight up with a big kind of aluminum block around it that just closes the collet so you can put it in a mill and hold round parts.
00:18:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. So as you, so yeah it's so clever the way he did it.
00:18:28
Curt
Super, super smart.
00:18:31
jamie peacock
So in his case, he's got two collets next to each other that he's machined a taper into a block and a thread in the middle. And as he tightens that thread, it pushes the block up and closes the collets.
00:18:43
jamie peacock
It's really, really clever. Like I think it's a brilliant idea. I'm going to machine one pin at a time because at the moment I don't need to make thousands of them.
00:18:51
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:51
jamie peacock
So I need a one piece solution for now. But yeah, i'm trying to I'm trying to steal time so that I can machine my mooring point. The material is there.
00:19:03
jamie peacock
I just have work in the machine.
00:19:05
Curt
Just need to slot it in.
00:19:06
jamie peacock
It's very tedious. um You know these paying customers and whatnot. Ridiculous, I tell you.
00:19:11
Curt
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:19:12
jamie peacock
Okay. give you money in one pot. Absurd.
Design and Aesthetics Considerations
00:19:16
jamie peacock
um yeah, so I've, I need to finish programming it.
00:19:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:19
jamie peacock
I'm changed. I think since the version I showed you, I've changed it. So I had the, uh, the bridge between the two pieces on the top. I've now stuck it on the bottom so that you've got a smooth surface between them on the top.
00:19:29
Curt
Hmm.
00:19:31
jamie peacock
So it looks a lot cleaner. um Yeah, we'll see. um I'm going to get one on my machine and then probably have to replace my lovely, the first ever production version with one of the actual but ones from the batch with the new pins because I need to have my stuff all cross-compatible.
00:19:37
Curt
Hmm.
00:19:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:19:50
jamie peacock
And now with the dials being a little bit bigger, yeah. it
00:19:54
jamie peacock
I initially planned on using dials. Like the V1, I was playing with it today. I just didn't make the diamond diamond-y enough.
00:19:54
Curt
Fair enough.
00:20:02
jamie peacock
So it was a bit tight.
00:20:02
Curt
Oh, I got you.
00:20:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I've learned things um and we will do fanciness going forward.
00:20:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:20:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. I'm um'm quite excited to be making the pins quite honestly. Like, yeah. I don't know if you, you listened to lean built.
00:20:11
Curt
That's awesome.
00:20:19
Curt
Yep.
00:20:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. Did you listen to, to the newest episode?
00:20:23
Curt
ah No, I'm like five podcasts book behind on every single podcast I listen to.
00:20:27
jamie peacock
Okay. Okay. Oh, speaking of other podcasts, Kurt, your episode on Taps and Patients was really good.
00:20:32
Curt
What?
00:20:34
Curt
Oh, thank you. It was a lot of fun. I had about...
00:20:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, listened to it like over the weekend.
00:20:38
Curt
Yeah, I think I had like 20 minutes of heads up. think AJ's got jammed up. So I very much appreciate it. It was really fun chatting with Harrison. I kind of like... There were some questions always...
00:20:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, i'd forgotten I'd forgotten you were on there.
00:20:46
Curt
Yeah, I was like listening... Well, I was like listening to like podcasts with them and I was like, oh, I wonder if Harrison blank, blank, blank. I'm like, hey, now I get the chance. So it was fun to kind of just ask him what he, you know opinions on certain things.
00:20:57
Curt
i was It was cool.
00:20:57
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:57
Curt
I really enjoyed chatting to those guys.
00:21:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'd forgotten you had been on there before.
00:21:03
Curt
Yeah, way back in the day. Yeah, way back in the day.
00:21:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, i was going say it like way back in the day so I've listened to them from the beginning, but yeah, I'd forgotten.
00:21:06
Curt
there
00:21:10
jamie peacock
ah So this one is beware of other people's lead times was the thing for today.
00:21:15
Curt
Oh, yeah, that's perfect advice.
00:21:17
jamie peacock
and I'm like, that hits so hard because it was just as I discovered, like I discovered the lead time issues with the pins, got in my truck to go to a customer, started playing the podcast.
00:21:17
Curt
Yep.
00:21:26
jamie peacock
And that was the topic. i'm like, a wow, talk about hitting hard.
00:21:30
Curt
no no doubt yeah i know it's like like when some people ask me they're like well why do you make this why do you make this is like well part of it is for that reason well i mean part of it is just because i can but part of it is like well now i don't have to worry about that like i don't it's not an
00:21:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was a bit of a. Yeah.
00:21:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Procurement and Material Challenges
00:21:42
Curt
issue like if someone gets delayed or something is or people buy up all the stock of blank blank blank it's like i just i make it like it's all i got to do is carry enough material and i'm golden like it's all that really matters so
00:21:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:21:52
jamie peacock
No, it's exactly it. So I actually went to one of my other customers today who's supplying the K110 tool steel for the anchor points. I sent him an email last week ordering the material. haven't heard back. So I went past it. I'm like, hey what's happening? he's like no, no, his wife's been off for the last three days. So she's now back. It'll get ordered today. I'm like, should we don't need it by the end of the week, please?
00:22:11
jamie peacock
And then I can get all that done.
00:22:11
Curt
Nice.
00:22:13
jamie peacock
Off to heat. There's a lot of balls in the air at the moment. And I'm trying to just stay on top of everything. And it's beginning to stress me a little bit.
00:22:22
Curt
Wow. That's how it should be before a product launch should be a little, a little flustered and frazzled.
00:22:25
jamie peacock
Yeah. No, 100%. Yeah.
00:22:28
Curt
If you're all, if you're all, if you've got everything in all the ducks in a row, you've won.
00:22:28
jamie peacock
um um Yeah.
00:22:32
Curt
Like you said, we like we said last time you've waited too long.
00:22:35
jamie peacock
So, yeah, like now the packaging is entirely redesigned. After our chat this week about the cost of pallets, I think I'm going to be shipping a lot of blocks early around the world.
00:22:44
Curt
Yeah. I, I, that's what i meant to do. I will get an actual quote for you just to, just for curiosity's sake, but yeah.
00:22:47
jamie peacock
ah Okay. No, no. I was just curious. ah Because, yeah, we're aiming at... So... I've started building out the stuff on the web store, like the actual product listing.
00:22:58
jamie peacock
So we've got the Anchor Point Starter Kit, and then we've got just the base.
00:22:59
Curt
Oh,
00:23:03
jamie peacock
So if you want to do a mirroring point, you don't have to buy another two pallets and a pneumatics kit.
00:23:04
Curt
okay.
00:23:09
jamie peacock
You only need one of them. Um, but then we're also going to be selling the pallets, but we've got to write a very fine line where we're not like, cool, don't buy 10 pallets, only maximum of buying and an additional two pallets, because then you still fit in the shipping weight allowance because the pallets are 800 grams each.
00:23:11
Curt
Right.
00:23:24
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:27
jamie peacock
So yeah, it becomes a ah whole thing.
00:23:27
Curt
Yeah.
00:23:32
Curt
Yeah. I mean, if you get if you get the right shipping, car like I know ShipStation will do it, but like if your order gets to a certain weight, like you can specify weight and size per device and you can say like, if I have six of these things, you have to now carry over to this style of shipping.
00:23:33
jamie peacock
um,
00:23:40
jamie peacock
yes.
E-commerce and Shipping Strategies
00:23:44
Curt
I mean, i haven't I haven't implemented it, but it exists.
00:23:45
jamie peacock
But job yeah you don't need to implement, you make small light things.
00:23:50
jamie peacock
um
00:23:50
Curt
That's what you think until people order a bushel and you're like, uh-oh, these all don't fit in one box anymore.
00:23:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. No, so I've been looking at how to get around all of that that stuff. Like this first batch, I don't expect people to be ordering mountains of units.
00:24:05
jamie peacock
Hopefully, but I don't really. I know EJ is chomping at the bit from nocturnal welding to to pick up some systems for his machine.
00:24:13
Curt
Nice.
00:24:14
jamie peacock
So yeah, we'll, we'll see what I, yeah, the, these ones are going out as meant to be standalones. They will be the perfect heart, but they'll be stand ideally standalones. And then we'll move into making mooring points and stuff.
00:24:22
Curt
Yeah.
00:24:25
jamie peacock
Once I've actually had a chance to test all of that and get all those processes in place.
00:24:28
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. No, that makes perfect sense.
00:24:30
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:24:31
Curt
That makes perfect sense. Yeah, no, I got your i got your anchor point in my machine right now. It's playing with this morning. So like it's it's it's cool. I can see it's it would be very nice if I don't have to tighten a voice vice again.
00:24:38
jamie peacock
Um, yeah.
00:24:42
Curt
i would very much like that. I would love to put a podcast on and load parts into a fixture and then just put a part in and good to go.
00:24:44
jamie peacock
ah
00:24:48
jamie peacock
So my my plan is to put a... So, okay. I don't know if I've said this on the podcast. So we have the anchor point, which is a single unit. Then we have a base plate called the mooring point, which is two units.
00:24:59
jamie peacock
And then the harbor, which is four units.
00:25:02
jamie peacock
my I fully intend to put a harbor on my machine and have my vases on a plate that I can slap my vases on, take them out, throw the vacuum table or throw platework table, whatever.
00:25:02
Curt
Yeah.
Workshop Optimization and Machine Care
00:25:13
jamie peacock
Just quick swap in and out of my machine that I'm not um not having to reclock my vases ever again in my life.
00:25:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:21
jamie peacock
As it is, my two self-centrings are going to go on to a double pallet that spans ma my mirroring point. That's going to be one of the first things I put on there. Because I use the double vases, my double...
00:25:30
Curt
Nice.
00:25:33
jamie peacock
My two self-centering vices, which are half a millimeter indiffer in difference in height. I measured it this time when I was setting the job up, which blows my freaking mind because they were ordered at the same time from the same supplier.
00:25:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:44
jamie peacock
They arrived in the same shipment and they are... what's that? 19.7 thousandths, like 20 thousandths difference in height.
00:25:54
Curt
yeah
00:25:54
jamie peacock
So like the first time I ran them, they are on a set spacing center to center. So I could program the parts at G54 and then just create a pattern over.
00:26:05
jamie peacock
And it wouldn't clean up when I faced the parts. I'm like, what the hell's going on? So now I run G54 and G55, which is just as easy to put out of fusion. But I probe each block and then it and runs fine.
00:26:05
Curt
Yep.
00:26:14
Curt
Yep.
00:26:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:17
jamie peacock
But those are going to end up on an anchor point.
00:26:18
Curt
That's run it.
00:26:20
Curt
ah That's how i run my patterns too. Like I actually, like I machined my fixtures so they're dead even just mechanically.
00:26:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:25
Curt
Like they would measure perfectly just with a straight pattern.
00:26:26
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:26:27
Curt
But I'm like, I have so many work offsets. makes so much more sense just to probe them in and put them those work offsets and pattern it that way.
00:26:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:26:33
Curt
Because then you can tweak it if you need to.
00:26:35
jamie peacock
Yes. So like, for instance, my, my anchor point is at G57.
00:26:36
Curt
As opposed to
00:26:39
jamie peacock
It's been there forever. Uh, since it runs in the machine, that's always been its work coordinates.
00:26:40
Curt
Hmm.
00:26:43
jamie peacock
When I, it'll probably, my mooring point will stay there.
00:26:43
Curt
Hmm.
00:26:46
jamie peacock
Um, I think then G157 will be the back one's, uh, round pin. So that if I want to run single pallets, I just have to change one, one offset. And then on the 54 and 55, I'll reserve for just everyday work.
00:27:03
jamie peacock
Whatever I'm currently doing, if I'm probing a block in, that's G54 and 55. I'll reserve for that.
00:27:08
Curt
Yeah, it makes sense.
00:27:08
jamie peacock
56 doesn't really get used. 58 and 59 are reserved for my tool setter and my warm-up cycle, which could get moved on to some random high number one.
00:27:21
jamie peacock
It's just when I got the machine, I didn't know I had a million offsets. So I just...
00:27:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:25
jamie peacock
set them on the on the ones I knew.
00:27:28
Curt
Yeah, ah exactly. Tis the way.
00:27:30
jamie peacock
yeah
00:27:31
Curt
Tis the way.
00:27:32
jamie peacock
I just shared the warm-up program I have with with John last week.
00:27:36
Curt
oh yeah.
00:27:37
jamie peacock
That's awesome. Because I just, I drew an ellipse with the travels of the machine less 10 millimeters and then like 100 millimeter high and then cut it off at an angle.
00:27:48
jamie peacock
And then I do a trace toolpath and I'll do ah trace toolpath at a thousand RPM, then a trace at a trace at 3000 and keep going up.
00:27:50
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:27:56
jamie peacock
And then like I'll start double tracing as I get higher up because now I'm increasing the feed rates as well. And that way you can kind of get it.
00:28:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:02
jamie peacock
Like I run a 15 minute warmup every morning. That's just part of the routine.
00:28:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:05
jamie peacock
You get in there, you let the machine warm up, you know, it's moved across the entire X, Y travel and there is lubrication in the machine. Like it's just your part of the, part of the thing.
00:28:17
Curt
Yeah. Same even mine. Like I have a, I have a 24 hour
00:28:17
jamie peacock
If anyone, yeah, if anyone does want that file, so if anyone wants that file, just send me a DM on Instagram and I will happily send it through for you.
00:28:27
Curt
i say like even I mean, the problem is a spindle takes forever to warm up.
00:28:28
jamie peacock
Yeah. Sorry.
00:28:29
Curt
So it's like I have a 24-hour warm-up.
00:28:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:31
Curt
I have a 72-hour warm-up. And then i have like a three-week warm-up. And yeah, the three-week warm-up is brutal because it's like an hour and an hour long or something like that.
00:28:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:28:38
Curt
But yeah, the daily one is still, I mean, it's still like a 20-minute warm-up. But I mean, it's 20,000 RPM spindles.
00:28:41
jamie peacock
Did that come with the machine? did you?
00:28:44
Curt
Basically, it's the factory spec of how they want it others they want the spindle warmed up.
00:28:45
jamie peacock
Okay. So, yeah.
00:28:47
Curt
So I warm up the axes and then the spindle warms up a little bit differently. So yeah.
00:28:50
jamie peacock
Okay, mom when I got my machine, obviously second hand machine, spoke to the guy. I'm like, what story with warmups? He's like, run your spindle at like thousand RPM increments for a couple of minutes on each one. So I'm like, cool, I'll move the axes too.
00:29:02
jamie peacock
He's like, he knows guys who've put machines in, they turn on in the morning and it goes to full RPM and stays there all day.
00:29:05
Curt
Yeah,
00:29:08
Curt
yeah, yeah. Yeah,
00:29:09
jamie peacock
And that's how they run day in, day out. No warmups, nothing. ah I'm like, no, I'll warm my machine up. Thank you. Like, let's try get some life out of this thing.
00:29:19
Curt
yeah I mean, honestly, for the price of a spindle, yeah like, they're not, they're not, it's not like it's a, to like, I think the spindle in mine is like $4,000, $5,000.
00:29:22
jamie peacock
yeah
00:29:27
Curt
Like, it's not a $20,000 spindle.
00:29:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:30
jamie peacock
It's inconvenient. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's an inconvenient thing, but yeah, not the end of the world. Yeah.
00:29:30
Curt
So, i mean, still, I don't want to cook it, but yeah, it's the exact
00:29:36
Curt
Yeah, I more do it just for, like I said, longevity and then just to make sure everything is warm and like you hit the same tolerances.
00:29:41
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:29:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:29:43
jamie peacock
Yeah. I actually got a price on another machine.
00:29:47
Curt
what are you looking at?
00:29:48
jamie peacock
Forever getting pricing on
Exploring New Equipment and Technology
00:29:50
jamie peacock
machines. i It is a drill tap center made by the brand Sano.
00:29:53
Curt
Okay.
00:29:55
jamie peacock
And it comes in at...
00:29:56
Curt
Okay. Okay.
00:30:02
jamie peacock
No, keep adding $31,000 landed here. wait, hang That's inches. 43, sorry, 43.
00:30:09
Curt
Oh, that's cheap.
00:30:09
jamie peacock
ah wait now hang on that's that's inches ah forty three
00:30:13
Curt
with
00:30:13
jamie peacock
sorry forty three
00:30:15
Curt
That's still pretty affordable.
00:30:15
jamie peacock
It wasn't bananas. Yeah. and Afford a brand new machine, 48 meter rapids, uh, basically equivalent to what I have.
00:30:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:22
jamie peacock
Um, yeah.
00:30:23
Curt
Nice.
00:30:24
jamie peacock
So only problem that it claims it needs 15 kilowatts. Whereas, uh, if I look at all the specs, it's the same as my machine that, uh, needs 6.5 KVA.
00:30:34
Curt
Yeah, think people love to go overstock.
00:30:35
jamie peacock
So I don't know if they just erring on the side of caution or what the story is.
00:30:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:30:40
jamie peacock
But yeah, we're, we're looking into it.
00:30:40
Curt
Yeah. I vote that. Sick.
00:30:44
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:45
Curt
Keep us, keep us posted.
00:30:47
jamie peacock
yeah we will see it will happen at some point um
00:30:50
Curt
I know I got a, we have, um, I'd say I'm on Thursday this week, I'm going to WMTS, which is a Western manufacturing and technology show.
00:30:57
jamie peacock
oh yes you fancy yeah
00:30:59
Curt
So it's kind of like, uh, yeah, it's kind of like IMTS, except it's the like Canadian version and it's, less fancy. um I went many years ago and it was super impressive. Like there was tons of machines to look at.
00:31:11
Curt
And then I went to a few of the Canadian versions and they were like, was like a room of like 20 tables. And it was like, this is like in and out in 10 minutes, but this one, apparently they have a lot of vendors.
00:31:19
jamie peacock
Hang on, let's...
00:31:21
Curt
So yeah, I'm kind of jazzed. I know some, I know some people that are going, so.
00:31:23
jamie peacock
Oh, okay. ah Let's hope it's better than Machine Tool Africa.
00:31:31
Curt
Was that pretty light, light duty as well?
00:31:35
Curt
Just like walk in, walk out.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
ProPack was three times bigger. ah No, i spent I spent four days there still because I'm talking to my friends and whatnot.
00:31:37
Curt
Oh. Yeah.
00:31:40
Curt
Oh,
00:31:41
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah I still spent four days there. um The show, about a third of the show was WD Hearn, the guys I bought the LK from.
00:31:51
Curt
yeah.
00:31:51
jamie peacock
They were literally swinging it around because they'd had a good year. um
00:31:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:31:58
jamie peacock
i'm So if you took Machine Tool Africa, times that by six...
00:32:01
Curt
Yeah. ah
00:32:02
jamie peacock
you weren't quite at the size of the machine tool section of IMTS.
00:32:08
Curt
Yeah, yeah, IMTS is a monster.
00:32:09
jamie peacock
Just the machine tool hall. IMTS is friggin' huge.
00:32:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:32:13
jamie peacock
Yeah. But that's a yeah, Machine Tool Africa was a bit of a letdown for me.
00:32:14
Curt
So.
00:32:16
Curt
Yeah, anyways, I'm jazzed to go.
00:32:17
jamie peacock
Which was a bit annoying. Yeah, but that sounds like fun.
00:32:18
Curt
It's fun to look at big machines.
00:32:19
jamie peacock
It's always fun to go to shows.
00:32:21
Curt
Yeah, yeah. So I don't think there's, I think there's some Swiss machines, which is kind of what I'm interested in. I want to kind of poke around there and see what that's like.
00:32:26
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:28
Curt
Just kind of see what's what the local distributors are like. I mean. going to be a while. I don't think I'll ever buy new. I think probably buy used Swiss, but I mean, looking at the price of used Swiss is here too. Just, i don't know. It's just nice to go make contacts.
00:32:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:39
Curt
and I took a page out of your book and i made my I made my pass as a dictator.
00:32:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. I had look at a yeah.
00:32:44
Curt
So yeah.
00:32:45
jamie peacock
Nice. I was like about to bring that up. Nice.
00:32:47
Curt
Yeah. ah was like, no, you're not a dictator.
00:32:48
jamie peacock
Um,
00:32:50
Curt
So yeah, I got my pass. I'm pretty jazzed about that.
00:32:54
jamie peacock
um i actually saw my first swiss was that machine tool africa there was one on the entire floor and it was a 42 or 32 mil board was freaking huge um yeah wd hern bring them in it was about because obviously and i got sent the brochure because i knew it and i knew it was coming in ah just adding some more zeros here uh that was 135 000
00:33:02
Curt
That's a big one. Yeah.
00:33:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:33:16
Curt
Yeah. yeah
00:33:17
jamie peacock
Chinese machine.
00:33:18
Curt
but what they are
00:33:19
jamie peacock
um
00:33:19
Curt
um
00:33:20
jamie peacock
think Chinese or Taiwanese. I've actually got the brochure. If you want me to send you a ah picture of it, then you can look them up. It might be worthwhile looking up. Although service is where it's at. Like the hardware you buy is not necessarily what makes your decision, the services.
00:33:29
Curt
yeah
00:33:34
jamie peacock
Because when shit breaks, you're going to want to be able to get service.
00:33:34
Curt
Yeah. Well,
00:33:39
Curt
the thing is, I know like i know a ton of guys that run Citizen machines and have Citizen reps and like have just all the Citizen info and have have Citizen parts and have Citizen everything.
00:33:44
jamie peacock
Yeah, but those are backwards.
00:33:48
Curt
So I'm like, you know what? I'm a big fan of Citizen. um So I'll probably go that way.
00:33:51
jamie peacock
Yeah, the only problem is that they're backwards.
00:33:54
jamie peacock
No, they're backwards.
00:33:54
Curt
Oh, you're going Switzerland.
00:33:55
Curt
You're going Switzerland anyways. You got to flip your brain around.
00:33:59
jamie peacock
Yeah, fair enough. But they are backwards, which is really weird.
00:34:02
Curt
Yeah, I agree.
00:34:03
jamie peacock
they yeah they run yeah yeah no that's creepy um ya yeah the thought of that but yeah my my poor lades i've got to make some stupid brass parts this week my emco has literally been sitting for months at this point like i run the odd job on it but it's what it was bought for i haven't run since november
00:34:04
Curt
It is bizarre.
00:34:20
Curt
ah
00:34:25
Curt
gotta show it some love that's not love
00:34:26
jamie peacock
so those guys are yeah well it's gonna get a bunch of love now it's gonna turn a bunch of dial pins
00:34:33
jamie peacock
That's love. It's only hardened steel, come on. It's also gonna run a bunch of pull studs. They hopefully arrive tomorrow. And then I'm gonna shorten the threads on probably, yeah, I'll see.
00:34:40
Curt
ah nice
00:34:43
jamie peacock
there's I've got 30 spare pull studs, 30 more than I need for the starter kits the start kit the batch. So I'm gonna run a bunch of short ones because I think it is a valuable thing to be able to use a 20 millimeter piece of material instead of 25 or
00:35:00
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:01
jamie peacock
And for the minus for the amount of cycle time, it's worth doing.
00:35:01
Curt
Not fair.
00:35:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:07
jamie peacock
So I see you Oh, yes, you printed a base for your imperializer. You're super fancy these days.
00:35:11
Curt
Yeah. This big old
00:35:13
jamie peacock
I need you to send me that file.
00:35:15
Curt
I will. Yeah. As soon as the podcast ends, I'll send it to you.
00:35:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:17
Curt
um It works pretty good.
00:35:18
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:35:18
Curt
It's nothing too fancy. It's just, I didn't, like you said, like I'm like, I didn't, I didn't put key caps on it either, but.
00:35:20
jamie peacock
Yo, mine's laying on Mine, yeah, the keycaps, I need to do my keycaps. um Mine's laying on my mouse pad and had a had this Allen driver wedged through it courtesy of my wife.
00:35:30
Curt
Oh yeah. Okay.
00:35:34
jamie peacock
So I need to sort it out and make it pretty.
00:35:39
Curt
Yeah, I was going to like pause the print midway through and like fill it with like a bunch of like BBs or like a bunch of sand or something like that.
00:35:44
jamie peacock
and Give it some weight. Yeah.
00:35:46
Curt
Give it some weight. But i was like, you know what? I'm just going to hit print and i'm going to go to bed and I'll deal with this another time because this is more of just a fun project. But printing it, problem problem with printing it and then talking to you and then this podcast and then the Internet and everything is just led me down the stupid rabbit hole.
00:36:01
Curt
of wanting to get a different printer.
00:36:02
jamie peacock
yep
00:36:03
Curt
and i So I looked heavily at the the bamboo printers, I looked heavily at the Prusa units, and then obviously i looked at the Voron units because I've always been a huge fan of the Voron units.
00:36:10
jamie peacock
yeah which for which which voron the hell's a
00:36:14
Curt
and So anyways, my little other printer here is printing Voron parts. So you know how that went.
00:36:22
Curt
i think I'm going to go with the Trident. Yeah, i was going to go the V2.4, but I think Trident is a little bit better. It's it's basically the exact same as a 2.4, except it's got a lead screw Z-axis as opposed to the belt-driven Z-axis.
00:36:35
Curt
Honestly, the only reason is because I like the look of the exterior head being at the top of the printer. And these ones, you can put the spool inside the printer, which to me is ah kind of a big deal.
00:36:42
jamie peacock
Ah, okay, so it's, yeah.
00:36:43
Curt
And it makes it easier to kind of do some other stuff.
00:36:45
jamie peacock
So it's a three-axis leveling on ah on a Voron. Okay, cool.
00:36:49
Curt
Yeah, the Voron is a four axis leveling for the 2.4 and the Triadent is a three point. just like There's basically the only difference. The other one is flying gantry.
00:36:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:36:58
Curt
This one is a dropping build plate.
00:37:00
jamie peacock
Yes, dropping bed. Ooh, that is brutal.
00:37:02
Curt
Yeah. so Okay.
00:37:03
jamie peacock
So there's a local place that, let's see ah what this kit actually comes with. is' a local place that actually sells Voron kits. um shortlist of orantron it comes with a lot of the stuff but it's not friggin cheap holy cow like but yeah um uh yeah yeah 100 no 100 um
00:37:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:18
Curt
Yeah.
00:37:22
Curt
Yeah, I mean, they're they're not cheaper they're not cheaper than a bamboo. Like, you're better off, if you need a printer, just go buy a bamboo and let it run. But i don't I don't need a printer, and honestly, I don't really want to get into the bamboo ecosystem.
00:37:34
Curt
I don't like being closed.
00:37:35
jamie peacock
no
00:37:35
Curt
That's my thing, is like, anywhere in life, I don't like being closed off, so.
00:37:36
jamie peacock
hundred percent um I would consider a core one before I'd consider a bamboo here.
00:37:44
Curt
Yeah, likewise. Especially with the recent things bamboo's been doing, I'm just like, that's kind of shady.
00:37:45
jamie peacock
no
00:37:48
Curt
I'm not a fan.
00:37:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, a little sketch. But yeah, I'm seriously, I meant to buy a par this week to clipperize my printer.
00:37:55
Curt
Nice.
00:37:55
jamie peacock
Like the hardware on it is still good. like It's not like it's 15 years old. It's five years old. Make me feel flipping old. um It's five years old, but it still works.
00:38:07
jamie peacock
Like it works fine.
00:38:08
jamie peacock
I just want it to be better. I want to put input shaping and all the fancy things.
00:38:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:38:16
Curt
Totally. Yeah. And that's the thing is I, I keep my printers for like way, way, way longer than required.
00:38:16
jamie peacock
Yeah. And then.
00:38:21
jamie peacock
ah yeah
00:38:22
Curt
So I want something that's like, like you look, i was looking at um like teardowns of the bamboo units and there's a reason they're like 1200 bucks is because they're built like they function well, no doubt.
00:38:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:31
Curt
They print fantastically.
00:38:32
jamie peacock
But they built to a price.
00:38:32
Curt
Their UI is industry leading. Yeah. But everything is glued together there.
00:38:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:36
Curt
Everything is bushings. Like it's graphite bronze bushings, which is totally fine. But like,
00:38:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:38:41
Curt
They have a limited lifespan. And like I said, if you need a, if you have a business and you print things for a business, buy a bamboo, get printing. Don't worry about it. But like for me, I want to keep a printer for like a decade.
00:38:50
jamie peacock
Yeah. Buy bamboo, buy spare one for when it breaks.
00:38:54
Curt
Absolutely. And, uh, but for me, I enjoy, like, I literally enjoy the process of building this.
00:38:55
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:58
Curt
This is like, this is my, my downtime is, know, dicking around with a printer and building something.
00:39:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:39:03
Curt
So I've wanted a Voron forever. So yeah, I'll just slowly tinker my way to a, to a build in that regard.
00:39:10
jamie peacock
Loss.
00:39:10
Curt
yeah
00:39:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, that's um the Slant 3D.
00:39:11
Curt
yeah
00:39:14
jamie peacock
I don't know if you listen to any of their stuff on YouTube.
00:39:18
jamie peacock
They've got a print farm, like a couple thousand printers. They started a print on demand.
00:39:18
Curt
Uh, no.
00:39:21
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:39:22
jamie peacock
Literally, they've got ah they've got a piece of API called Teleport.
00:39:26
Curt
Mm.
00:39:26
jamie peacock
You design your model, you upload it to Teleport. Someone orders you, it goes onto your Etsy store. Someone orders it, they print, fulfill, and deliver.
00:39:32
Curt
Mm.
00:39:35
jamie peacock
on demand.
00:39:35
Curt
Nice.
00:39:36
jamie peacock
And they've got a couple thousand machines, but he was saying they developed their own machine because they needed complete control of that system.
3D Printing Innovations and Challenges
00:39:42
jamie peacock
Because if you put some off-the-shelf thing and then they update their firmware without, like, they push her over their updates and all of a sudden your print farm no longer print farms, you got a problem.
00:39:42
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:39:53
jamie peacock
Like...
00:39:54
Curt
Totally.
00:39:54
jamie peacock
Even the Prusa stuff, like that, i don't know if you've seen the the Core 1, I think it was the Core 1 release, like lot of stuff was pushing towards doesn't have to connect to the internet, can update firmware via a USB, and like all these stupid things that not everything needs to be on the internet, says the man whose lights and his workshop are now on the internet.
00:39:55
Curt
Yep.
00:40:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:12
Curt
Totally. Totally. Yeah.
00:40:16
jamie peacock
But not everything needs to be on the internet.
00:40:20
Curt
Yeah. No, there's like, there's, I mean,
00:40:20
jamie peacock
Like...
00:40:22
Curt
yeah Yeah, I completely agree. There's some machine tools I just don't like.
00:40:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:25
Curt
For my printer, I like it just to turn on and do its thing. If it did it once, like unless there's, like now my printer, my Mendel that I have like 10, 15 years old. It's ancient. It's old tech.
00:40:36
Curt
Everything is old on it.
00:40:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:37
Curt
All the software is old. Like it's time to upgrade that thing. But like it still does the thing. Like I put the print into it and it prints the thing.
00:40:42
jamie peacock
yeah
00:40:44
jamie peacock
Yeah. But that's, that's also like putting pig on a, uh, lipstick on a pig.
00:40:44
Curt
Like I don't need to change it.
00:40:48
Curt
Totally. Yeah.
00:40:49
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, throw throw a clip aboard it and see what happens, but yeah nothing good.
00:40:49
Curt
Yeah. And I mean,
00:40:54
Curt
Yeah. Well, this thing took whatever hours to print, whereas on a modern printer, it'd be, you know, um less than an hour.
00:40:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:00
Curt
Like, it's just, yeah.
00:41:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Now, that's something Bamboo, I will give them credit for, is they pushed the speed limit. Like, I mean, i'll say that, this thing's this thing's been doing 100 millimeters a second since I built it five years ago.
00:41:09
Curt
Oh, no doubt.
00:41:15
jamie peacock
It's never run slowly.
00:41:16
Curt
That's quick.
00:41:17
jamie peacock
the first The first print on Dave's version of this, because i built two of them, one for myself and one for Dave.
00:41:18
Curt
That's quick.
00:41:23
jamie peacock
Dave's first print was a benchy and it was sub one hour. Five years ago.
00:41:26
Curt
Yeah, that's quick.
00:41:28
jamie peacock
That was a two and hour print back then.
00:41:28
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:30
jamie peacock
Like we just kept turning it up and seeing what would happen. um
00:41:33
Curt
Come
00:41:33
jamie peacock
And yeah, obviously it looked like shit, but there's what it is. um
00:41:37
Curt
on, now you have like but you the...
00:41:38
jamie peacock
It prints, it's pushed.
00:41:41
Curt
have the speedboats, like the sub-10-minute Benchies.
00:41:41
jamie peacock
What's that? Well, yeah.
00:41:44
jamie peacock
Have you been watching the Minuteman project?
00:41:45
Curt
Those guys are nuts.
00:41:49
Curt
I don't know. It sounds familiar, but I don't think I've... like
00:41:51
jamie peacock
I'm going to butcher this.
00:41:52
Curt
um
00:41:52
jamie peacock
Rotes 4.0. It's a guy on YouTube somewhere in Europe.
00:41:56
Curt
Okay.
00:41:57
jamie peacock
It's got a Europe accent. um
00:41:59
Curt
Okay.
00:41:59
jamie peacock
He's got old CMM that he's basically building a Sub on minute Benchy machine on. He's got the most amazing air bearing kinematic table.
00:42:07
Curt
Yeah,
00:42:10
jamie peacock
And like, its it's nuts, but like his videos are not two hours long. I watched them at like double speed because he's going into how the hell do you cool your filament fast enough?
00:42:15
Curt
yeah. yeah
00:42:19
jamie peacock
Cause it comes out the nozzle molten. It needs to go hard before you can lay on it again. And he's, yeah, like he's trying to crack a minute.
00:42:19
Curt
No doubt, yeah.
00:42:23
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:26
jamie peacock
and The current record is like two minutes, just under two minutes.
00:42:26
Curt
That's nuts. That's insane.
00:42:29
jamie peacock
ah Not on his machine, on a modified end of three.
00:42:30
Curt
I mean, they look like...
00:42:32
Curt
Yeah, they look like trash, but I mean, it's still amazing that you can get that much plastic down that fast.
00:42:37
jamie peacock
No, it's absolutely... yeah But no, I'll... Okay, we need to put a link for that. Hang on, let me add that to the thing here. Rhodes 4.0. What was other thing I promised a link for?
00:42:50
jamie peacock
Whoops. um
00:42:52
Curt
You're...
00:42:53
jamie peacock
But yeah, the...
00:42:56
jamie peacock
I don't know, the guys can DM me for the warm-up cycle program.
00:42:59
Curt
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:43:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's fine.
00:43:00
Curt
Sorry.
00:43:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, anyway, with regards to putting things that shouldn't be on the internet, on the internet, my light's in my workshop.
Automation and Inventory Management
00:43:08
Curt
Yes. You're going Oh, I did.
00:43:09
jamie peacock
Did you see, you saw the post, didn't you?
00:43:12
Curt
oh for sure. Yeah. I was expecting you to say, Daddy's home, and the lights just go like...
00:43:14
jamie peacock
Yes. So now I'll ask mr
00:43:17
Curt
Okay.
00:43:18
jamie peacock
I'm getting there. ah Right now it's enable Ironman mode is what I request of the Gogglebox.
00:43:24
jamie peacock
um My neighbor gave me a speaker, so I put that in the workshop. So now in the morning, it's like enable Ironman mode and all lights turn on and then disable Ironman mode. And then they mostly turn off. The relay module's sticky.
00:43:24
Curt
okay
00:43:35
jamie peacock
Apparently 36 watts means more than 10 amps because the relays get sticky.
00:43:41
Curt
Okay, yeah.
00:43:42
jamie peacock
So I don't know why. i don know it's just a shitty relay module, but I yeah i had to go hit it with a spanner until it would turn off the other day.
00:43:48
Curt
Oh.
00:43:50
jamie peacock
But it seems to be stable now. So but yeah, now I've got... The problem now is I put more lights in the workshop. So now inside my machine looks dingy, whereas it used to be the other way around.
00:44:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:01
jamie peacock
Like in my machine used to look bright and outside...
00:44:01
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:03
jamie peacock
Yeah. So I went and put in... how many lights did I put in the freaking workshop? Hang on. I need to... There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
00:44:16
jamie peacock
And then two fluorescents, which are, we'll call them the same. Eight, nine. Okay, cool. Times nine. Yeah, i have 350 watts worth of LEDs in my workshop.
00:44:25
Curt
nice nice
00:44:27
jamie peacock
Of which 100 watts is directly above where I stand in front of the machine. So now I can't see the lights on my machine because it's too freaking bright. Like on the control panel, I have to look directly in line with them to see if they're on.
00:44:34
Curt
yeah yeah yeah
00:44:40
jamie peacock
Okay.
00:44:40
Curt
Yeah, that's...
00:44:40
jamie peacock
But it's nice having lots.
00:44:42
Curt
Oh, totally. i When I built this place, I put just a stupid amount of lighting in the ceiling that I never use because it is so bright.
00:44:48
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:50
Curt
It is annoying to work under. It hurts your eyes. It's like I said, I turn them on when I'm doing like setups because it's like there's no shadows.
00:44:52
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:56
Curt
It's like an operating room.
00:44:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. and you yeah
00:44:57
Curt
But day-to-day stuff, it's like this is just tiring to work under.
00:45:00
jamie peacock
It gets a bit much.
00:45:02
Curt
So I have all this mood lighting in here instead.
00:45:02
jamie peacock
So I also set mine up in banks.
00:45:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:04
jamie peacock
So I can leave some of them off if I want. But yeah, was in the roof pulling really shitty twin flex around.
00:45:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:13
jamie peacock
I'm pretty sure aluminum core wire with copper plating on the strands because it was from the China shop and it was like super cheap for a roll of 100 meters.
00:45:18
Curt
oh nice yeah
00:45:23
jamie peacock
But it's powering 36 watt lights. It'll be fine.
00:45:26
Curt
yeah that's yeah you're not gonna have issues yeah hmm
00:45:27
jamie peacock
knock um It's not going to set itself on fire. But yeah, so I've been organizing the workshop and sorting shit out. I bought a shelf. that now sits where my table was and is full of material because some idiot bought a whole shitload of material to make anchor points.
00:45:44
Curt
Yeah, saw that. and That's a sizable amount of metal.
00:45:46
jamie peacock
It's a mountain. Yeah, it was stressing Danica out a bit. She's like, it's a lot of money to be tied up on something that we don't know is going to sell. I'm like, in reality, it's not that much money that's tied up there.
00:45:54
Curt
Yeah.
00:45:55
jamie peacock
Like, as far as material through our workshop goes, yeah it's not that much money.
00:45:57
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:02
Curt
I suppose, yeah. Well, like i said, ill buy um ah assuming this doesn't blow up in my sheen, I'm down for two.
00:46:04
jamie peacock
ah Yeah.
00:46:08
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:46:10
Curt
So...
00:46:11
jamie peacock
yeah I'm down for seven already. So it's a, yeah. Everyone else can get nodded. I'm having seven in my machine. um Yeah, no, I've got, I want to put seven or eight of them in my machine in the long run that I can literally swap out the entire work envelope because I've got that Tufnel job down, coming down the road, hopefully.
00:46:27
Curt
Yeah, no, it makes sense.
00:46:30
jamie peacock
I've actually got some more mold work coming down the road. i had a chat to Roger today and he was saying he just needs to stop being lazy.
00:46:35
Curt
It's like...
00:46:37
jamie peacock
So stop being lazy, Roger, because I know you're going to listen tomorrow.
00:46:39
Curt
Hmm.
00:46:40
jamie peacock
Well, yeah know listen tomorrow, which is actually today for you. um were chatting this afternoon and he's like, no, he's got the go ahead for the molds on this drone fuselage that I've been machining molds for.
Mold Work and Coolant Projects
00:46:52
jamie peacock
I like mold work. Mold work's like, I do the roughing and then I like, I'll do the roughing in the evening. So I'll start roughing the parts out at like seven o'clock in the evening. It'll be done by nine with the roughing and then it just sits and does finishing while I sleep.
00:46:52
Curt
Nice.
00:47:00
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:47:06
jamie peacock
And the machine just goes back and forth and back. And the other guys polish these molds. So they like the super smooth finishes I give them, but I don't really care because I'm sleeping while it runs.
00:47:12
Curt
Nice.
00:47:15
jamie peacock
I get to charge full rate while I sleep.
00:47:15
Curt
Yeah, that's... I have a... ah
00:47:18
jamie peacock
It's the dream. Ooh.
00:47:19
Curt
I have a pen project coming up with the same thing. It's just going to be like a lot of finishing, like a silly amount of finish. i don't I'm going to starve building this variant, but I'm super jazzed for it. And the best thing is no one's going to follow me or copy me because no one's going to make money at it.
00:47:36
Curt
So I'm quite jazzed about it.
00:47:36
jamie peacock
Yeah, no one's going to be dumb enough to do it.
00:47:38
Curt
no one's going to be dumb enough to do it. No, you have to have no overhead and you have to enjoy working for no money, but it's going to, yeah, I'm going to be, I'll be jazzed about it.
00:47:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'd be kind of curious to hear about that.
00:47:47
Curt
So,
00:47:48
jamie peacock
You know, eventually.
00:47:49
Curt
i will ah yeah I will release more details eventually.
00:47:54
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, been also...
00:47:54
Curt
If it works.
00:47:54
Curt
If it doesn't, I'm just going to admit that I never never went down that rabbit hole be like, nope, that wasn't me.
00:47:58
jamie peacock
Yeah, don't know what you speak about.
00:47:59
Curt
That was somebody else. and Exactly.
00:48:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, some other guy did that.
00:48:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:03
jamie peacock
i don't know if you saw the coolant manifold. Okay. It's finally finished.
00:48:06
Curt
um you one Oh, I did see that. And it makes me want it.
00:48:09
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:48:10
Curt
Yeah.
00:48:10
jamie peacock
Yeah, it works. It works okay. um The little pipikis that I made, need I need to make them...
00:48:16
Curt
Yep.
00:48:18
jamie peacock
with less of a radius where they blend just so that I can point them a little closer to the spindle. So like my really short tooling, I can't actually hit properly.
00:48:24
Curt
Gotcha.
00:48:27
jamie peacock
um
00:48:28
Curt
Gotcha.
00:48:28
jamie peacock
But it ran everything it needed. It did what I needed it to do over last week.
00:48:32
Curt
yeah
00:48:33
jamie peacock
So yeah, it works beautifully. i didn't bother anodizing it. I just slapped it in the machine and ran with it. But yeah, works amazingly.
00:48:41
Curt
i stuck my ah I stuck my head in the machine and looked up at my spindle just to see if I had, like you had you had some tapped holes that were unused.
00:48:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:48:47
Curt
And I have tapped holes that are unused too.
00:48:48
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:48:49
Curt
So I'm like, ooh. i might have to I might have to take your lead and build something similar.
00:48:54
jamie peacock
I will send you the file if you want. so um Yeah, because I would suggest you, because you've got a laser cutter, laser cut just a piece of cardboard or whatever, bolt to a spindle and check when it does a tool change that it's not going to break anything because that's what I did.
00:48:56
Curt
I would appreciate it actually. Yeah, very much so.
00:49:03
Curt
Yeah.
00:49:05
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:08
jamie peacock
Laser cut piece. Okay, cool. I can come a little bit further forward. Then I took the model and 3D printed like five millimeter thick with the step where it could potentially intersect and just printed like an L bolted that in check clearances.
00:49:17
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:49:20
jamie peacock
And then I went to make it in aluminum.
00:49:22
Curt
That's smart. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:23
jamie peacock
Yeah. And then made all the fanciness and got it all working. The pipes are a little bit janky, but they work.
00:49:27
Curt
Yeah. i was.
00:49:30
Curt
I was thinking about you because I was, forgot what I was doing now where I changed something in the machine um and I was positioning coolant nozzles. And I was like, this is so, I'm basically, I was like, i'm going to make a little like spikes that I can put in my coolant nozzle so I can just point them.
00:49:37
jamie peacock
ah
00:49:43
Curt
Cause like I point them then i close the door and turn the coolant on.
00:49:44
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:49:46
Curt
I'm like, oh, that's close. And then i open the door and then I point them again and I close the door and and it rinse repeat like a thousand times.
00:49:49
jamie peacock
I know this game.
00:49:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:51
Curt
So like, you know what?
00:49:52
Curt
i'm going to put like a wire, like a big long wire with a thing so I can jam it in the nozzle and then just point the wire where I want it. I was like, or i just build a little manifold that goes on the head and just never worry about this again.
00:49:59
jamie peacock
Oh, exactly.
00:50:03
Curt
was like, yeah, that's the better way.
00:50:04
jamie peacock
No, like it, so I need to make, I need to make the ones with a bit more relief so I can point a bit closer. Other than that, flawless. I love it. Like, I don't think about it anymore because I used to faff with the nozzles all the time.
00:50:13
Curt
Sick. Sick.
00:50:17
jamie peacock
Like it was freaking annoying.
00:50:18
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:50:19
jamie peacock
So I'm, I'm literally running two 12 millimeter pneumatic lines.
00:50:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:23
jamie peacock
So I bought pneumatic fitting elbows that screw into my coolant blocks.
00:50:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:26
jamie peacock
They loop over the top of the machine and come down, neck, down the side of the spindle. Like where the, there's a cover next to the motor.
00:50:31
Curt
Nice.
00:50:33
jamie peacock
They slot it in there. I cable tied them to the energy chain and then they just loop. Because I didn't want, them i could have had them dangling in the machine, but that's just asking for cock.
00:50:42
Curt
Yeah. I might actually, looking at the machine, I might even go even more ghetto and pop the lock lines off the the static the static nozzles there and just put a loop i'll loop up to the the spindle.
00:50:43
jamie peacock
So I'd rather have them loop over the top.
00:50:52
jamie peacock
Yeah, and just run hosed. Yeah, ah I considered that. I really did consider that. I would say if you're going to do that, feed in from the side, like to the side your machine and make a loop with like something pulling it to the corner so it doesn't dangle by your by your job.
00:51:10
Curt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:10
jamie peacock
that you can definitely do that. Like I've got, I've got other covers that sit next, sit a bit lower, like where your lock line does that the bend in your, in your video.
00:51:12
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:20
jamie peacock
My, I've got a cover that sits there. So I couldn't, I had to pull the covers if I wanted to do that. I didn't really want to pull covers off the machine.
00:51:26
Curt
Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah.
00:51:27
jamie peacock
Although the one cover does touch the casting if I go all the way down. It's really annoying. It goes, ka-dunk, ka-dunk. Every time I do like if I'm peck drilling, low down. Every time I go past cover, goes ka-dunk, ka-dunk, ka-dunk on the casting.
00:51:36
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:39
jamie peacock
And I just couldn't be bothered to loosen and fix it because I've put risers on everything.
00:51:44
Curt
Right, yeah, yeah.
00:51:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:51:46
Curt
Yeah, I think it's something I gotta do.
00:51:47
jamie peacock
But yeah, I'm busy designing anno crates because the last thing I want is to pack beautifully machined parts, send them to anodize and have them rattle around in a crate.
00:51:56
Curt
Ah, okay, that was the ah that was that big ah foam you were lasering, or assuming you're going to laser.
00:51:57
jamie peacock
Yes. That big ass piece of foam. Yeah.
00:52:02
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:03
jamie peacock
I'm going to attempt to laser. It's 20 millimeters thick.
00:52:05
Curt
Okay.
00:52:05
jamie peacock
I don't know how well this is going to go with my 50 watt laser.
00:52:07
Curt
Yeah, it's up there.
00:52:08
jamie peacock
I've done 16 mil before and don't have issues that.
00:52:13
jamie peacock
I'm going to put, I've got a 100 millimeter lens. So instead of a 50 mil focal, it's 100. going to put that in.
00:52:13
Curt
Okay.
00:52:18
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:52:19
jamie peacock
That's where i can get a bit more clearance. um
00:52:21
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:22
jamie peacock
And then, yeah. I bought that one meter by one meter. That should be enough for two boxes. Nope. It's enough for one box.
00:52:30
Curt
Really?
00:52:31
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:52:31
Curt
Oh, I guess. Yeah, they're big.
00:52:32
jamie peacock
Because it's stacking, and that's without cutting a bottom.
00:52:33
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:36
jamie peacock
That's with making the dividers and then cutting squares to shove in the bottom.
00:52:40
Curt
Hmm. Hmm.
00:52:41
jamie peacock
Now, it eats up a lot of material. So that's, in the next couple days, I'll get that sorted out. The next highest priority is getting the pins. My plan for the pins sorted out so I can machine the anodized sample body I have, press pins into it, transplant all my V3 stuff into that V4 body, assemble that, and check that my plan is going to work.
00:52:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:03
Curt
Right. Yeah.
00:53:03
jamie peacock
Because until I do that, i can't machine any of the bodies.
00:53:03
Curt
That's a good idea.
00:53:08
Curt
Yeah. Do that. that's an That's an important one.
00:53:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of important. Just, again, fighting for time on my own flippin' machine.
00:53:16
Curt
Yeah.
00:53:16
jamie peacock
It's a little bit annoying. You know, these customers paying money and wanting parts. Ridiculous, I tell you.
00:53:23
jamie peacock
But yeah. And then, yeah, surviving and eating food.
00:53:24
Curt
surviving and exactly who wants that
00:53:27
jamie peacock
Ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah, i had a chat to one of my customers last week. ah We've done a couple thousand of these stupid little aluminum parts. It's an extrusion that we machine a hole in.
00:53:38
jamie peacock
was actually at the bank and I make the parts that they sell to the bank. I was like, hey, I machined that. I can tell because it's got a shitty chamfer. um
00:53:46
Curt
okay
00:53:47
jamie peacock
Yeah, the the extrusion isn't super consistent. So every now and again, it'll clean up on the one side and not the other.
Pricing and Competition in Machining
00:53:55
jamie peacock
And it gets powder coated.
00:53:55
Curt
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:53:56
jamie peacock
I don't really, and not my problem if they want to give me shitty material. Like, it'll be fine. You'll load another piece and it won't be. So they don't mind. um They, I suppose the guy's yo, listen, we're going to be doing like, first he was like, have you increased the price on this? I'm like, I would like to. He's like, your competitor's coming in 50 cents cheaper.
00:54:15
jamie peacock
I'm like, well, my price isn't going down.
00:54:18
jamie peacock
Uh, but last time he sent me stuff, you had them two days later.
00:54:18
Curt
Right.
00:54:19
Curt
Yeah.
00:54:20
jamie peacock
He's like, no, no, your service is amazing. Like, don't worry about the price. Just if you leave it the same, you'll get the work. He dropped off 120 of those for me to machine last week. I cranked those out on Friday.
00:54:32
jamie peacock
um I need to rebuild the pallet. The fixture is 100 by 100 millimeters, which, hey, just so happens to be the anchor points default pallet.
00:54:41
jamie peacock
It's the kind of work that when it comes around, you want to just slap it in the machine, run through it quickly and take it out the machine. Like 100 of those is an afternoon's job if you've got all the fixturing right. So I'm going to make an anchor point fixture for that.
00:54:41
Curt
Nice.
00:54:50
Curt
Cool, cool, cool.
00:54:52
jamie peacock
And that that is the ideal case. The pallet doesn't cost a fortune. So you can afford to have one laying around dedicated to that. When the job comes in, you just throw it on the machine and you're running in 10 minutes.
00:55:04
jamie peacock
You got to put your tools together, touch off your tools and you can run.
00:55:04
Curt
Nice.
00:55:06
jamie peacock
um And then they've got another one.
00:55:07
Curt
Yeah,
00:55:08
jamie peacock
I'm waiting for material to arrive hopefully tomorrow. I'm going machine 120 circles with a slot in them to go in an 80 millimeter cutout on a desk. So like when they've got ah a cutout on the desk, it's a cable pass through.
00:55:19
Curt
yeah. yeah That makes sense. Yeah.
00:55:20
jamie peacock
Machining 120 of these things that then go to anodized. So I need to come up with the process that's um somewhat reliable for machining these things.
00:55:24
Curt
Oh, fancy.
00:55:30
jamie peacock
Like the the actual, the overall thickness doesn't matter per se. So I'm going to put it in the vase, deck it, machine the hole, then put it in a fixture, machine the slot and machine the outside and do the undercut with a T-slot cutter.
00:55:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:55:45
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:46
jamie peacock
And then get creative with dovetail cutters to chamfer it all in one arm.
00:55:51
Curt
Nice. That's the way. That is the way.
00:55:52
jamie peacock
Oh no, one up's the way to go. This has to be two ups because I have to face it
Product Features and Development Timelines
00:55:56
jamie peacock
and I can't hold by the ball and face it if there's no ball. So I'll face it and put the ball in the first up and then clamp it in the ball and do the thing.
00:56:00
Curt
Right.
00:56:05
jamie peacock
But yeah, it should be fun.
00:56:06
Curt
speak Speaking of your speaking of anchor points and cheap pallets, I got a question because I posted a quick question on the stories.
00:56:10
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:56:12
Curt
um So, yeah, if you want to answer it, it's up to you on this one.
00:56:12
jamie peacock
Ooh, fancy.
00:56:15
Curt
um Carrie Development asked, what is the price point of the anchor point? So you can give a range, you can tell people to go pound sand or ah you can do what you like.
00:56:20
jamie peacock
So we're
00:56:25
jamie peacock
No, no, I'm happy to share the price because we have we have decided on the price already. ah The price will be $499 US dollars with $60 shipping on top of that.
00:56:36
jamie peacock
That is for the starter kit. It comes with the base, ah the pneumatic starter kit, two toe clamps that will make it Saunders base plate compatible or T-slot compatible, and two blank pallets for you to get started with.
00:56:49
jamie peacock
We will then also be selling additional pallets that i still want to confirm pricing on, but we are aiming at about $27 a pallet for very specific reason, which I'm not going to get into because it's ah kind of a little bit of a dick move.
00:57:02
jamie peacock
But yeah, so that that is the projected pricing. That will be the price on the first batch, which we are aiming for the end of this month. So we have got 23 days to go until I'm planning on releasing those.
00:57:14
Curt
And that's part of the reason I'm championing this product, because I don't think anyone is hitting that price point. I don't think anyone can hit that price point. And I think for what you're getting for the price, you're not getting you know cutting like a budget quality zero point.
00:57:28
Curt
Like it seems it's pretty legit in my eyes.
00:57:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:57:30
Curt
But anyways, I'll take my sales.
00:57:30
jamie peacock
So it ah definitely ah definitely has its limitations. Like don't strap a chunk of steel to it and expect to go wailing on it. you ah It is on the website, which you can find on the jspeceng.com is our website. There's an anchor point section on there.
00:57:48
jamie peacock
um I might convince Danica to link it in this show notes. ah There are some some available specs on how much hold down force and whatnot there are on these units. I've been using one for...
00:58:00
jamie peacock
just on a year now in my machine. I'm still running the version, the pre-production version two. We're now onto to version four, which will be going into production, will become the production version. And clamping force-wise, it's the same, but the version Kurt has and the version I'm moving to now have a ground pad. So they've got a lot more contact area.
00:58:20
jamie peacock
than the version two that I run. But if you're interested in seeing what it's capable of, on my Instagram, which is jspecengineering, there is a highlights reel on my profile that goes through the testing and development and all the stuff relating to it.
00:58:36
jamie peacock
And I think about three stories in is actually doing a test cut with a 12-inch end mill, 24 millimeters deep with a four millimeter step over. And I run out of horsepower on my machine before the pallet system runs out of rigidity.
00:58:51
jamie peacock
So yeah, you can check it out there. So a bit of a long rant, but yeah.
00:58:51
Curt
Nice.
00:58:53
Curt
Yeah. No, I'm starting to shoot video on it because I want to do a combo video of the zero point and my screws mixed together.
00:58:59
jamie peacock
Ooh.
00:59:01
Curt
So try to capture more eyeballs.
00:59:02
jamie peacock
Oh, nice.
00:59:03
Curt
But I think that's also because I think this is going to be pushing it for ah tolerance more than most people.
00:59:07
jamie peacock
Accuracy, yeah.
00:59:07
Curt
look i want to be I want to be... If I can position within five tenths, I'm fine. If I can get tighter, even better. um But like... Honestly, if I can position within a thou, I'm fine too.
00:59:16
jamie peacock
Oh.
00:59:17
Curt
But I just, I want to see how, how accurate I can go. So yeah, I think.
00:59:21
jamie peacock
I'm curious to see, so you might need to take those pallets I sent you, and i would say put them in with their current locating holes, machine them square, then take them out, put them in your vase, and machine a new set of dial holes that are right on size.
00:59:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:36
jamie peacock
Then you're going to get the accuracy you're looking for.
00:59:37
Curt
I want to. That's exactly. I'm going to take your stock pallet.
00:59:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:41
Curt
I'm going to put it in there and I want to just probe and test it and just see. And then same thing.
00:59:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:59:44
Curt
That's what to do is I'm going to pop them out on machine new super tight holes, which are going to be tedious to like swap in and out, but I want to see just what, what I can,
00:59:48
jamie peacock
Yeah, because... ah Yeah, that's, yeah. um
Precision in Machining and Tolerances
00:59:53
jamie peacock
So as far as I recall on that that specific batch of pallets, those were 10.02.
01:00:02
jamie peacock
So those had a 20 micron tolerance on the boards, and I went right up to that bigger size. So those are eight tenths oversize, those holes, which means your positional accuracy in the corner of the pallet system
01:00:11
Curt
Yeah, which is.
01:00:17
jamie peacock
In theory, theory being the operative word here, ah should be five tenths from position.
01:00:25
Curt
Right, but that also depends on if you put them in and then keep tension on it Like if you constantly put them in and tension in one way, you should be okay.
01:00:30
jamie peacock
So, yes, you should be perfect there. But that is assuming you put it in twisted right, clamp it.
01:00:35
Curt
Yeah.
01:00:38
jamie peacock
Put it in twisted left, clamp it. You should have a variance of plus minus 13 microns there.
01:00:42
Curt
Right, right. Yeah, your biggest, yeah, yourre but your most.
01:00:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, I did some CAD drawings.
01:00:45
Curt
Nice.
01:00:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, because you could, in theory, shift from side to side by 10 microns or 4,000.
01:00:53
Curt
Right, right.
01:00:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, give or take.
01:00:53
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
01:00:55
jamie peacock
4,000, 4 tenths, side to side. And then when you start rotating that, it it gets really weird really quickly. um But that's where also the mooring points, your positional accuracy starts, because you're spanning larger distances, you start to gain gain accuracy there because your 10 micron deviation
01:01:00
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:08
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:13
jamie peacock
in yeah, you the number of degrees won't be just one of the smaller denominations of degrees, will be a lot less for the same tolerance.
01:01:23
Curt
Right. And if you have a pallet spanning those, then you can start doing funky stuff like preleaing preloading the pinholes by, you know, a few micron on either side.
01:01:24
jamie peacock
But yeah. Yes.
01:01:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:30
Curt
So when you put it on, it's like it's registering itself against itself.
01:01:32
jamie peacock
Dead nuts.
01:01:33
Curt
Yeah.
01:01:34
jamie peacock
Yeah. So...
01:01:35
Curt
People don't. Microns are small, folks.
01:01:38
jamie peacock
Microns are stupid small.
01:01:38
Curt
What?
01:01:39
jamie peacock
It's like the hobby... Yeah. i was I was ranting to someone today about hobbyist... ah ah When I went to my customers to go look at pins, I was ranting to them about ah hobby machinists where they're making a handle for their lathe and trying to hold tents. I'm like, dude, it's a handle for your lathe.
01:01:55
jamie peacock
If it's out by 10 millimeters, no one's going to give a shit. It's a handle for a lathe.
01:01:58
Curt
yeah yeah yeah exactly chasing microns when you have a machine if you lean against it's going to move five thou it's like yeah what are you doing like it doesn't what's your weakest point like where's your weakest point yeah
01:01:58
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, people chasing microns when there's no reason to chase them. But, yeah. Yeah. Like,
01:02:10
jamie peacock
really. Really. Exactly. lock And yes, you can hold stupid tight tolerances on a wet noodle, but it takes a lot of effort.
01:02:21
jamie peacock
I held silly tight tolerances on the slow year. I now turn that work away even though I have the LK. I'm not interested in trying to hold those tolerances.
01:02:21
Curt
yeah yeah
01:02:28
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:30
jamie peacock
Again, today, i was at the customer. He's like, come collect tool steel. There's work for you. I'm like, no, thanks.
01:02:36
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:36
jamie peacock
I don't want your tool steel in my machine. I don't want the stress associated with it. Like I like cheap aluminium. When I make a scrap pot, guess what?
01:02:42
Curt
Yeah.
01:02:43
jamie peacock
I just make another one. Well, preferably not scrap the second time.
01:02:45
Curt
No, totally. Yeah.
01:02:49
jamie peacock
It happens as well. Like I've actually got a, I've got a palette that I, that's sitting on my shelf that I blew the tolerance on the balls when I was setting up or got shaving and I don't know. it was
Community Support and Achievements
01:03:00
jamie peacock
out of spec.
01:03:00
jamie peacock
It's going to be used for a job where I don't need accuracy.
01:03:01
Curt
right right yeah
01:03:04
jamie peacock
I just need a palette. So it'll get used for that job. Like there's a time and a place for accuracy and that job is not it. It's a cover for on a desk. It doesn't need to be accurate.
01:03:14
Curt
yeah I have a I have another fun question yeah of course
01:03:16
jamie peacock
But yeah. another one hang on before we get to that kurt let's quickly do the patreon shout outs well shout outs because we've got one patreon on the on the fancy yeah on the fancy i've just like now we're like on an hour already thanks to jade from benchmark 20 for being our top patreon it's greatly appreciated thank you to all the patreons goes to making the podcast uh much easier to just happen um
01:03:34
Curt
Thank you, sir. Thank you, friend.
01:03:42
jamie peacock
But yeah, and then, ah well, let's carry on the questions and then we'll just tie in our calls to actions and stuff towards end of the podcast.
01:03:49
Curt
Yeah, they've gone this far. They know who we are.
01:03:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:03:51
Curt
um So ah another fun question.
01:03:52
jamie peacock
Exactly.
01:03:54
Curt
I think I'll direct it at both of us because it's a fun one. I want to know your answer too. Dez Tundra asked, what is one item that you've created that you're most impressed with?
01:04:07
Curt
That's a fun one.
01:04:08
jamie peacock
Ooh, most impressed with.
01:04:12
jamie peacock
Ooh.
01:04:12
Curt
i I'll lead if you want to think for a second.
01:04:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, you lead with this one because ah yeah I've created a lot of things and I don't know what I'm most impressed with. Well, I know what the cheesy answer is.
01:04:20
Curt
i but
01:04:23
Curt
Yeah, I don't, my answer might be cheese.
01:04:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:04:25
Curt
um But the thing I'm like, I could say like, oh, the first pen I made, like all this, like yeah, sure, whatever. ah Honestly, the one thing, and I can't, I shouldn't say that I've created it because I haven't really created it, but that's silly little hobby mill, the Kurt hobby mill that sits beside me is probably the thing I am most impressed with that I didn't fully create, but I definitely built it more to the, like it's built for a purpose. And I put,
01:04:50
Curt
time and effort and cash into this thing that is beyond what you should put into it. But that little machine has paid for the style. It has paid for me to do this for years. It is anybody that ever whinges at me that like, Oh, I don't want to start a business because I got like go buy yourself a cheap hobby. milk There's amazing things that you can do if you're just willing to put in a little bit effort. Like if you put in half the amount of effort that you whinge online and you put that towards something productive, you could get someplace where really crazy.
01:05:17
Curt
And i don't know, that's just my like pet peeve is amount of people that whinge at me that they can't build something fancy because they don't have a $100,000 machine tool. It's like, there's so many ways around this. So that's the thing I'm most impressed with because on this last batch of all the Canadian pens with all the engraving on and all the four taxes work on the pen body, the Kirk did it. The little hobby mill machined these pens that I'm selling for $300 plus dollars Canadian and and the finishes are fantastic and I've ran the same parts on my style and it produces...
01:05:45
Curt
incredibly similar results. It does it in one tenth of time, but like you can do amazing things with cheap tools. That is the thing I am most impressed with. Maybe it's a cop-out answer, but that's one.
01:05:53
jamie peacock
Damn it, Kurt. No, it's not a cop-out answer because that that's exactly where my mind went. At this point, I would venture to say that Kurt is more yours than what it was when you bought it.
01:06:03
jamie peacock
Like, you've put in more than that machine was when you bought it.
01:06:04
Curt
Probably.
01:06:06
jamie peacock
Like, you've put a lot into that machine.
01:06:08
Curt
Oh, probably.
01:06:09
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:10
Curt
Yeah, it was a $2,000 machine. That's
Building and Success of Slowio Machine
01:06:12
Curt
now probably got $10,000 of crap on it.
01:06:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:06:14
jamie peacock
yeah Well, yeah, you stole my thunder there because i was like, hmm, I'm most proud of the anchor point. they're like, no, that's fucking lame. ah
01:06:22
jamie peacock
i was going to say the Slowio because same story. Like I built the Slowio from scratch. I was actually re-watching the video series the other night when I was in the workshop because I filmed the whole video series on building that machine.
01:06:22
Curt
Yeah.
01:06:34
jamie peacock
And it was meant to compete with the Tormach 440. and every It's meant to be better in every single way.
01:06:39
Curt
Right.
01:06:42
jamie peacock
The only thing I didn't manage was the spindle RPM. I chickened out, it got warm when I went up to 8,000, so it stayed at six. But it's got like 10 millimeters more travel because I was just being being a knob when I designed it.
01:06:56
Curt
Right. Right.
01:06:56
jamie peacock
And that machine, the amount of work that went out on that machine blows my mind. The things I did on there, I wouldn't even attempt on the on my LK now. Like, I look back at some of stuff like how the hell did I do this In what world should i be doing this I was machining K110 injection mold inserts on there.
01:07:16
jamie peacock
It's like, in what world should I be a making injection molding inserts on a machine I built from scratch?
01:07:21
jamie peacock
Like, this is insane.
01:07:21
Curt
right
01:07:22
Curt
right
01:07:23
jamie peacock
I mean, I built the freaking spindle. Like, I designed that entire machine and manufactured that entire machine 2018. in two thousand and twenty eighteen It's that machine has no right to be as good as it is.
01:07:36
jamie peacock
they There is no reason it should be as good as it is.
01:07:37
Curt
Right.
01:07:38
jamie peacock
like But yeah, that it is. It'll be in my, I say it'll be in my workshop forever, but it probably in reality won't. I use it less and less, and it'll probably go to a better home at some point.
01:07:47
Curt
right Yeah,
01:07:51
jamie peacock
But it got me to the point that I could buy the LK. ah
01:07:56
jamie peacock
It got me to the point that I could buy Big Bertha and retrofit Big Bertha. And it got me the point that I could buy the Emco and retrofit the Emco.
01:07:56
Curt
that's amazing.
01:08:00
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:03
jamie peacock
Like, that was all on the back of the slowio.
01:08:06
jamie peacock
ah yeah when When you look back at it, it's like, what the hell? look
01:08:06
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:10
Curt
Yeah, I know it's insane.
01:08:11
jamie peacock
I mean, that whole machine, if I recall... Okay, I got i got some really good deals on some of the stuff, um like stupidly good deals, mostly because I liberated it from work.
01:08:22
jamie peacock
That whole machine cost me $2,800.
01:08:26
Curt
That's nuts. That's nuts. It's probably paid for itself in times over.
01:08:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. obviously, I've thrown some more money at it since then. Like, that that was when it had R8 spindle.
01:08:30
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:33
jamie peacock
Since then, I've thrown a bunch of money at it. um In reality, we're probably closer to... $4,000. Yeah.
01:08:42
Curt
Sure. But it's probably paid you back 10 times that 20 times that probably more.
01:08:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, closer it to $20,000. Probably more.
01:08:48
Curt
Yeah.
01:08:48
jamie peacock
Probably more than that, actually.
01:08:49
Curt
Yeah. Like.
01:08:50
jamie peacock
Like, it's insane. It's made 12,000 Torx bits. That little machine, machine 12,000 Torx bits. And now, oh, maybe 12,000.
01:09:03
jamie peacock
12,000. I invoiced 12,000 of them from that machine. It was making them in just over a minute each. it
Business Evolution and Personal Growth
01:09:10
Curt
That's crazy.
01:09:11
jamie peacock
It's insane. Like, it is amazing what you can do with effectively a wet noodle. Like, comparing that to the to the LK, it's not even comparable.
01:09:19
Curt
oh
01:09:23
jamie peacock
That machine is relegated, yeah, like, it's relegated to drilling cross holes and pins.
01:09:23
Curt
Well, and a good...
01:09:25
Curt
ah You need a good healthy dose of ignorance too. like That helps a ton. like
01:09:32
jamie peacock
so
01:09:32
Curt
Just don't go online and just go do it yourself and then you'll realize you can do a lot more.
01:09:35
jamie peacock
yeah but That's like my video. I think we were discussing it this week. You said you watched our old shop tour from 2018. I watched it the other day.
01:09:45
Curt
Right.
01:09:46
jamie peacock
i'm like, this oak has no idea what's coming. He's so hopeful and ignorant.
01:09:49
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:52
jamie peacock
lock
01:09:53
Curt
Yeah.
01:09:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, I had no idea what was coming. Like, and the thought, like looking back at that, and at that point I was like, oh, I could be profitable doing R&D work, not charging anyone any money. And it's like, you've got to be kidding me, really? Like, come on.
01:10:07
jamie peacock
And yeah, I look at now where, I mean, yeah, that was 2018.
01:10:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:14
jamie peacock
By 2020, I worked at what I needed to be earning a day to just cover our bills. That is times three now.
01:10:20
Curt
Right.
01:10:23
jamie peacock
We have to clear per day just to cover our bills.
01:10:24
Curt
Yeah. Right.
01:10:26
jamie peacock
But obviously we're doing a lot more work than we were doing back then.
01:10:30
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:30
jamie peacock
I mean, my laser cut our bills off the profits of a job because at that point I didn't have to be profitable. I needed the business to pay the bean counter and cover the the tooling bill.
01:10:37
Curt
Right. Yeah.
01:10:42
jamie peacock
That was it. My missus was paying the bills.
01:10:43
Curt
Right.
01:10:45
jamie peacock
And then, yeah, COVID happened. Then all of a sudden i was profitable. It t was fun.
01:10:51
jamie peacock
Kind of glad for that.
01:10:51
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:51
Curt
One day.
01:10:51
jamie peacock
Like, it kicked me in the ass enough to to actually get me on a serious path. Otherwise, it would have always just been me pottering around the garage, doing odds and ends, making a little bit of money here and there.
01:10:59
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:02
Curt
Right. Yeah.
01:11:05
jamie peacock
And...
01:11:07
jamie peacock
To sound kind of mean, would have ended up like a dad. Same kind of story.
01:11:11
jamie peacock
Bills were paid.
01:11:11
Curt
Right.
01:11:11
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:12
jamie peacock
He just potted around. that's the impression I get. I never met him, but yeah, kind of potted around.
01:11:16
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:11:18
jamie peacock
Had business that didn't really need to be profitable. Whereas now I've got to be profitable because I pay the bills.
01:11:24
Curt
Yeah. Well, there's,
Project Challenges and Learning Reflections
01:11:25
Curt
that's some value too. It's like sometimes putting a little bit of fire to your feet helps like a little bit of stress is very motivating.
01:11:28
jamie peacock
A hundred percent. Yeah. It helps a lot.
01:11:31
Curt
A lot of stress is not motivating, but a little bit is very helpful.
01:11:35
jamie peacock
A little bit, little bit helps, unfortunately.
01:11:38
Curt
It just be slightly hungry.
01:11:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, like now the this this whole anchor point thing is stressing me a little bit more than I wanted to, but that's fine.
01:11:47
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:47
jamie peacock
I will survive. And then we'll make more and I'll be more stressed.
01:11:49
Curt
Yeah. Well, I,
01:11:50
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:11:51
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. Thanks.
01:11:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, but sot at least I'm glad I put the time and effort into getting my processes in place when we did the beta units.
01:12:01
Curt
No doubt. Yeah. You learn what you learn.
01:12:01
jamie peacock
And I'm glad I built the beta units because they resulted in me changing the entire fricking body design to something that is significantly better.
01:12:07
Curt
Yeah. Wow. They're so pretty. They're so pretty. Yeah.
01:12:11
jamie peacock
Yeah. Like the new ones. Oh, so pretty.
01:12:14
Curt
Not to say your old ones aren't, but they're very utilitarian and they'll serve their purpose.
01:12:14
jamie peacock
ah yeah No, yes, no, exactly.
01:12:18
Curt
But like, yeah, the new ones are they They look good They look good on the gram.
01:12:23
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, theyrick they look sweet. like ah Even my the mooring points I'm going to make now, the riser, I'm kind of torn on whether I should anodize it or not.
01:12:26
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:31
jamie peacock
I kind need it in the machine, but also kind of want to anodize it so it looks cool, but yeah I don't know.
01:12:33
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:36
jamie peacock
We'll see. It's probably going to get tossed in the machine and never taken out again, if I'm honest.
01:12:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:40
jamie peacock
luck Even the coolant manifold, it's tossed in the machine. It's never coming out again. like It works.
01:12:44
Curt
For sure.
01:12:45
jamie peacock
Unless it falls off, it's not coming out again.
01:12:47
Curt
yeah yeah for sure
01:12:49
jamie peacock
Yeah, I tend to be a bit... Yeah, a bit utilitarian like that. If it's in the machine, no need to take it out.
01:12:56
Curt
yeah
01:12:57
jamie peacock
So I was actually, I was watching the, I think the third episode on the building my CNC machine video. And I spotted the dread on my face when I mentioned I had to take the vase out of the machine.
01:13:11
jamie peacock
Because on that machine, it was a schlep. And that is still, to this day, a thing in my mind that putting a Vise in and out of the machine is this like hour-long endeavor.
01:13:11
Curt
Oh, yeah.
01:13:14
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:21
jamie peacock
It literally takes me
01:13:21
Curt
yeah
Documentation and Filming Plans
01:13:22
jamie peacock
three minutes.
01:13:23
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:24
jamie peacock
I pick Vise up, I wipe pots and put on riser, put the indicator, smack it with a hammer and tighten it down. Finished. Like it's not this huge thing that in my mind it is.
01:13:30
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:34
Curt
Right.
01:13:34
jamie peacock
But it was interesting to see that in 2018 Jamie's eyes. Like it's a huge schlep on the Kitsabora.
01:13:39
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:41
jamie peacock
but Also the vase weighed a freaking ton. It was a 300 millimeter long vase. Like you could clamp a one foot piece of bar stock and it was flipping huge.
01:13:46
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:13:50
Curt
Yeah.
01:13:52
jamie peacock
So yeah, it was heavy. But yeah, that series is interesting to go watch every now and again. Like it doesn't have a lot of views, but well it's, it's interesting view. the music The music's very annoying, but there is some interesting in insight there.
01:14:06
jamie peacock
I think in one of them, one of the segments, I posted a section from when I was in Australia, because that was when I was traveling all the time.
01:14:13
Curt
Wow.
01:14:14
jamie peacock
So it's like, I wanted to post an update, but I'm in Australia.
01:14:15
Curt
Mm.
01:14:17
jamie peacock
Look at the pretty harbor behind me. Oh, a stingray. And then back to building the machine the next week. Yeah.
01:14:23
Curt
Yeah, I think that's i mean that's one of the benefits of and one of my one of my selfish benefits of just doing videos is just kind of have a ah journal.
01:14:24
jamie peacock
it needs to get around way too much.
01:14:30
Curt
You can always look back and be like, oh, yeah, I remember that. Like, that's part of the reason I shoot video, too, is just to, chronic you know.
01:14:35
jamie peacock
Well, I have more videos on and on... Yeah, I've got more videos on YouTube than you do.
01:14:42
Curt
Oh, yeah, I guess. Yeah, probably. Yeah.
01:14:44
jamie peacock
Yes. Except you average 100 new subscribers per video and I average 0,9... zero comma none subscribers per video because a lot of it was all drone, drone racing stuff.
01:14:57
jamie peacock
I've got a couple views, like a couple of thousand views on a few videos back when I was on the flight test forums. Um, but yeah, as of late and anchor points videos got quite a lot of views, but yeah, I actually got ah another copy of film or, uh, today so that I can mess around with the slightly newer video edits.
01:15:13
Curt
hmm hmm
01:15:14
jamie peacock
I think my one that I'm using is from 2015. It's a definitely legit version. So I'm going put another definitely legit version in and mess around with that because I want to shoot that shop tour that we discussed this week.
01:15:27
Curt
Yeah, sick. Sick.
01:15:29
jamie peacock
Because, yeah, the workshop is giant and I have so much space for cameras and things.
01:15:35
Curt
I know. One of my pet projects that is on my list is to do a like a whole flying gantry system on the ceiling like with tracks where I can roll a camera on.
01:15:40
jamie peacock
Ooh, nice. Yeah.
01:15:43
Curt
I still want to do that, but I have zero time to do that right now.
01:15:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, that would be...
01:15:47
Curt
It'd be a lot of fun.
01:15:47
jamie peacock
Well, that's the thing.
01:15:48
jamie peacock
Like the...
01:15:48
Curt
like Just you can roll a camera wherever you want.
01:15:51
jamie peacock
Yeah. like that's the thing. Like filming for me, editing is a schlep. I don't enjoy that at all.
01:15:56
jamie peacock
Um... And also like I'm gonna, the shop tour is gonna be filmed on a GoPro Hero 2. Mostly because
01:15:56
Curt
Mm-hmm.
Workshop Efficiency and Engagement
01:16:02
jamie peacock
I really like the the color gambit or the color range on that camera.
01:16:02
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:06
jamie peacock
Now compared to the Hero 3, the Hero 2 was in my mind, the pinnacle of the GoPro style footage. Like the colors are just fricking amazing. So I've got my Hero 2, it was charged last night.
01:16:14
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:16
jamie peacock
I need to find a SD card somewhere around the house and then I can film a video. It'd be quite fancy.
01:16:22
Curt
Nice. Yeah, I know.
01:16:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, because the workshop is tight.
01:16:25
Curt
Videos are fun.
01:16:25
jamie peacock
Like i did ah I did a video a little while ago making fun of Harrison from Taps and Patience because he was like, oh, this workshop is so tight.
01:16:29
Curt
Nice.
01:16:31
jamie peacock
I'm like, dude, you have to walk sideways.
01:16:32
Curt
Oh, yeah. Yeah, crab walk it.
01:16:33
jamie peacock
Like, if you have to walk sideways, you've plenty of space.
01:16:35
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:35
jamie peacock
What you're complaining about? Like,
01:16:37
Curt
Yeah, I crab walk right here and I crab walk on the other side of the machine.
01:16:40
jamie peacock
yeah.
01:16:41
Curt
Yeah. It's the way.
01:16:43
jamie peacock
Exactly. Efficiency. Yeah, don't waste floor space.
01:16:45
Curt
Yeah.
01:16:46
jamie peacock
Put machines.
01:16:47
Curt
No, exactly. Yeah.
01:16:48
jamie peacock
Like, yeah.
01:16:49
Curt
And the best part is when you spend more money on machines, you can spend less money on food so it gets easier to squeeze between the machines.
01:16:51
jamie peacock
But yeah.
01:16:55
Curt
It's like it's a self-repeating cycle.
01:16:56
jamie peacock
There we go Exactly.
01:16:58
Curt
and Anyway, call to actions are
01:17:00
jamie peacock
anyway, I think let's, yeah, let's start.
01:17:02
Curt
Google things or what are we doing?
01:17:02
jamie peacock
ah
01:17:03
Curt
and
01:17:04
jamie peacock
Let's do call to actions first. So where can people find you? Oh, you're drinking water now. Where can people find you, Kurt?
01:17:09
Curt
No, shoot. Foundermachine.com. I have a bunch of blue pens coming out this, I think next Friday or Saturday by the time you're listening to this. So you can join the mailing list, join the lotteries, do what you like there. I actually put some code in the lottery now where people can look up stuff.
01:17:27
Curt
Quite pleased with that. It's like an app sheet, big program thing. Quite pleased. I get an email every single week where people are like, am I in the lottery? So now I have it. You can just enter your email and you can see if you're in the lottery. um Anyways, sorry.
01:17:36
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:17:37
Curt
That's an aside.
01:17:37
jamie peacock
Is that blue or nebula?
01:17:38
Curt
um But yeah.
01:17:40
Curt
ah This one's just going to be straight blue. Just, yeah.
01:17:42
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:17:43
Curt
it's Just blue anodized.
01:17:44
jamie peacock
Okay. Nice.
01:17:46
jamie peacock
um Yeah. and You can find me at jspeceng.com. That's where you can find information on the anchor points and also on the framework utility knife. um You can also find the podcast jspeceng.com.
01:17:47
Curt
How about you?
01:18:00
jamie peacock
theloanmachinist.com. um There's a link there that'll take you through to the Jspec Engineering online store where you can get ah the link from the podcast webpage will take you to the podcast specific ah merch section, which also helps support the podcast.
01:18:16
jamie peacock
so also a bunch of funny machinist shirts available on the Jspec online store. ah Yeah, that's about everywhere. Otherwise, Instagram at jspecengineering. And you can see the shenanigans that I get up to in the workshop and through the development of, well, the bringing to production of the anchor point because that is what's taking up most of my free bandwidth at this point.
01:18:26
Curt
Nice.
01:18:39
Curt
Nice. Actually, i got I got smart this weekend too and I linked our podcast website on the media page of my site.
01:18:40
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:18:45
Curt
I'm like, why is this not linked there?
01:18:45
jamie peacock
Ooh, fancy.
01:18:46
Curt
So yeah, see now it's linked everywhere.
01:18:47
jamie peacock
Okay, nice.
01:18:48
Curt
So you
Community and Personal Interests
01:18:49
Curt
should be able to find Although if you're listening to this, you don't have to find this.
01:18:49
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:18:51
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, yeah, if you're listening, you kind of know where to find us.
01:18:55
jamie peacock
But yeah, the episode of Taps and Patience that featured Kurt when he, yeah as it's put in our document, cheated on us and went to another podcast. It was a very good episode, like thoroughly, thoroughly entertaining episode.
01:18:55
Curt
Yeah.
01:19:07
Curt
I appreciate you man. That was fun. It was enjoyable.
01:19:08
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. No, the their podcast always is always entertaining.
01:19:13
jamie peacock
ah AJ is running around like a crazy person at this point.
01:19:13
Curt
Yeah.
01:19:16
Curt
who
01:19:16
jamie peacock
I think he's he's starting his Texas trip a tomorrow.
01:19:17
Curt
Yeah. I want to catch up with him one day.
01:19:20
jamie peacock
He leaves on his Texas trip or no, like two hours ago or something. um I'm on the Taps and Patients Discord, so I was... I was chatting on there. I keep a close on that discord.
01:19:32
jamie peacock
That's quite entertaining.
01:19:32
Curt
Yeah, I got to stay.
01:19:33
jamie peacock
There's a lot of, uh, I'm assuming a lot of the Patreons started, uh, signed up for the anchor point after you mentioned it in the, um, in the podcast, either that or the post you did over the weekend.
01:19:44
jamie peacock
One of the two, cause I got a bunch, well, a bunch, I got a couple more signups to the newsletter for the anchor point, but yeah.
01:19:48
Curt
Nice. Cool. Sick. That's awesome.
01:19:51
jamie peacock
So what have you been Googling this week?
01:19:55
Curt
Uh, uh, Googling a bunch of stuff. I actually, actually, right. Just recently I Googled, uh, K one, 10 tool steel. Cause you say that a lot and people might not know, but K one, 10 is basically the same as D two D two and K one, 10 are very similar.
01:20:04
jamie peacock
Oh yeah.
01:20:07
jamie peacock
Oh, okay.
01:20:08
Curt
So just for the other people in the world that don't know what K one, 10 is, I didn't. So had to look it up, which is kind of cool that your little machine was machining D two without issues. Um, Yeah, so that um bunch of Voron related stuff, just printers, Voron, kind of going deep down that rabbit hole. I got to stay off Discord right now because I have like a bunch of Discords on Vorons and read it on Thoron and just, I'm, I'm so deep down.
01:20:31
Curt
the It's just so enjoyable. Like sometimes I just want to turn my brain off and just that's, yeah, it's such a cool process because the, like even the manuals on those, it's just, they're so beautiful. Like I've just been reading through the manual because design but by engineers for like no holds bar.
01:20:40
jamie peacock
Yeah, the manual's on, saying.
01:20:45
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:20:46
Curt
Like it just super cool to, to read through. Anyway. So my search history has just been full of that. Um, I'll actually open it up real quick here and, uh, yeah.
01:20:53
jamie peacock
Oh, someone was, I was chatting to, sorry, going to disrupt you on your Voron thing.
01:20:57
Curt
Go ahead.
01:20:58
jamie peacock
I might be machining Voron pots out of aluminium for the local Voron community.
01:20:58
Curt
Yeah.
01:21:01
Curt
Oh, really?
01:21:02
jamie peacock
Yeah. So one of the guys that ah follows me on Instagram, I think he actually listens to the podcast as well.
01:21:03
Curt
Sick.
01:21:06
jamie peacock
ah He came past finally after like weeks and we're chatting. He's like, no, he's got a couple of Vorons and they're looking for someone to machine alley pots. like, send them. I'll have a look.
01:21:14
Curt
Yeah.
01:21:15
jamie peacock
Like, give it a bash. Like, really? It's what I do for a living.
01:21:19
Curt
That's a problem when you have, well that's a problem when you have like a full-fledged machine shop in your garage, because now I'm like, well, this part, it could be machined. I'm like, I could machine it. I'm like, no, no, stop this Kurt.
01:21:30
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly. Right.
01:21:31
jamie peacock
You want, I'll give you the files for the beefcake.
01:21:31
Curt
Like it's no, no, no, no.
01:21:34
jamie peacock
Everything on there is machined. Everything is machined or carbon fiber. So Dave ah was doing drones at the time. So like the cross member is a carbon fiber plate that we had made in China.
01:21:44
jamie peacock
And then I've got aluminum ends and aluminum motor mounts and some random plastic I had for a um for the tensioning mechanism that is a compliant mechanism.
01:21:55
jamie peacock
Like we there was nothing at the time.
01:21:57
Curt
Yeah.
01:21:58
jamie peacock
We didn't cut any corners.
01:21:59
Curt
Yeah.
01:22:00
jamie peacock
Now it's outdated, but at the time we cut no corners.
01:22:00
Curt
yeah
01:22:03
Curt
Yeah. No, I have a huge fusion model of a printer I was designing too, but I'm like, no, no. If I'm going to build something, I'm going to split the difference. I'm not going fully everything made by me. I'll pick something that already works. And yeah.
01:22:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, fair enough.
01:22:15
Curt
Anyway, how about you? What's in your, what's in your Google history?
01:22:16
jamie peacock
Okay. Let's do the thing. So, um, what was i trying to check out of? Okay, let's ignore that. Um, Wordle. I try and do the Wordle every day. I have a system.
01:22:26
Curt
nice cool okay oh
01:22:28
jamie peacock
My mom does the Wordle too. she's like, I got it in two. I'm like, i got it in four. The first three words are always the same three words. Unless it's one of those, I'm not getting it in less than four. Because in those three words, I knock out 15 letters of the alphabet.
01:22:37
Curt
the oh nice nice
01:22:40
jamie peacock
There's no repeating letters. So i have it like I have a system.
01:22:42
Curt
ah
01:22:43
jamie peacock
And it freaking works when I remember to play Wordle. Okay, I'm not going to mention that one because...
01:22:46
Curt
so
01:22:50
jamie peacock
problematic i was looking up er collet arbors for my little lathe because i've got one er 16 two morse taper collet and i want to buy like another three so that i can just have my sensor drill my drill my tap or i just swap the the morse taper collets out uh but they're expensive and i don't want to spend that much money on them and by expensive i mean like 25 i'm just being really cheap because i use the lathe so little like doesn't really make a difference um oh yes and then i was uh looking up some tariff things uh industrial shredders because of dylan from proteum machining
01:23:27
Curt
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a cool... Or, uh, not Dylan, but, um... Uh... ah His recent gas.
01:23:35
jamie peacock
oh worry sorry worry manufacturing
01:23:36
Curt
Yeah. Yeah, more manufacturing. Yeah, yeah.
01:23:37
jamie peacock
Yes, yeah, yeah. um yeah yeah more I'm considering very much doing that just to annoy people.
01:23:43
jamie peacock
It's also really good packaging and saving the planners. like That's my excuse.
01:23:43
Curt
I'd say people hate you, but...
01:23:46
Curt
Yep.
01:23:47
jamie peacock
um Because that that'll be something we'll chat about next week is the packaging for the Anchor Point production stuff. I've had to redo all the boxing.
01:23:56
Curt
Mm-hmm.
01:23:56
jamie peacock
Emirates do a courier service now. was looking into that.
01:24:00
Curt
Oh, cool.
01:24:01
jamie peacock
Yes, Worldwide Express, korea Emirates Courier Express. I need to look into that, so that'll stay open. Then
Future Projects and Closing Remarks
01:24:07
jamie peacock
I was looking up sturgeons to find out what their genus is because I watched a video from Max Fosch, which is, if you haven't seen Max Fosch's YouTube channel, it's frigging great.
01:24:16
jamie peacock
He hatched caviar.
01:24:18
Curt
Okay, yeah,
01:24:20
jamie peacock
But he could only get carp milk, so he had to buy carp caviar. Because I'm like, caviar sturgeon.
01:24:24
Curt
yeah.
01:24:25
jamie peacock
sturgeon and carp as far as i know not in the same genus so they can't crossbreed anyway so i was googling that so i've left all my things open like this is all over the show um then i was looking for led lights which i found looking at the rand dollar and seeing how much more money i'm going to be making for selling the pallet system for the same price because uh yeah the dollar unless it's just fallen through the floor that can't be right sorry i just want to refresh this one um
01:24:26
Curt
Okay, yeah.
01:24:43
Curt
there
01:24:54
jamie peacock
Okay, no, it hasn't fallen through the floor. It's gone. The rand has gotten weaker because our politicians here are amazing. Then i was looking at Osmo Pocket because kind of want to get one, but they're freaking expensive.
01:25:04
Curt
Yep.
01:25:07
jamie peacock
um Yeah, that and then I was looking at pneumatic collar chuck clamp things, which I'm going just build one because it's what I do for a living.
01:25:15
Curt
Nice. A whole mixed bag of fun things.
01:25:16
jamie peacock
yeah Yeah, I know. like I keep all my tabs open now so we go I don't have to think about it I just go look what I've been Googling. and there's always interesting things in there. But yeah, that's what I've been Googling.
01:25:24
Curt
Yeah.
01:25:28
jamie peacock
So yeah, what are you up to up to today, Kurt?
01:25:29
Curt
Nice.
01:25:29
Curt
Nice.
01:25:33
Curt
Today I'm going to do ah some pen polishing and start finishing up packing all the orders. That'll be ah get all these out of the way.
01:25:38
jamie peacock
Nice.
01:25:39
Curt
And then I can, that's why I'm kind of doing a staggered launch and then I'll do the rest of the pens launch next week, just so I'm not inundated and packing orders just continuously.
01:25:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. So you're not doing a boring thing for too long.
01:25:48
Curt
and Yeah, well, then I'm not sitting on people's minds. Like, I like to try to ship within, you know, ideally like to ship the same day, um but i don't want to I don't want to hold onto people's money Even though people are totally fine with it, I always stipulated on the listing of how long the lead is, but this one is three to five days, so I'd like to get them all out.
01:25:53
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:26:00
jamie peacock
Young.
01:26:03
jamie peacock
Yes. You've got a bit of time. Yeah.
01:26:06
jamie peacock
No, no. A hundred percent. Okay.
01:26:07
Curt
Yeah.
01:26:09
Curt
Yeah. How about you? What's your tomorrow looking like? your today?
01:26:12
jamie peacock
um
01:26:12
Curt
What do you want to talk about?
01:26:13
jamie peacock
mar The rest of my day is hoping that my stupid fucking dog doesn't do tornado maneuvers all night. Because last night she was restless, so she'll stand up and spin on the bloody spot, work Daniken up like eight times through the night.
01:26:18
Curt
Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
01:26:24
jamie peacock
If she does that tonight, she's getting kicked out. ah Anyway, tomorrow, going to finish off that drone landing gear stuff, throw that in vacuum bags, and then hopefully build a mooring point so that I can put...
01:26:24
Curt
Sick.
01:26:34
jamie peacock
my production version of the pallet system into my machine and then i'll probably go pick up some uh 5c collets so that i can do test dial pins and make sure that whole thing's going to work so that i can start rolling into production on anchor points but ah yeah that's the that is the plan whether it goes to is a different uh situation
01:26:48
Curt
sick
01:26:54
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly.
01:26:56
jamie peacock
yeah like we had all one of the things i forgot to mention was the power outages the random freaking power outages we had
01:26:56
Curt
Nice.
01:27:02
jamie peacock
On Friday, it was raining, so the power went off. Then Saturday, ah ran across the road to go chat to my neighbor. I look over, and i'm like, hey, my garage looks a bit dark. Power off for like two hours for no reason.
01:27:13
Curt
Yeah, you sounded a little bit testy in those videos.
01:27:14
jamie peacock
It was a little infuriating.
01:27:15
Curt
Yeah, and I was like, ooh, Jamie's hot.
01:27:17
jamie peacock
um Yeah, no, I was furious, but that is what it is.
01:27:22
Curt
Don't take that out of context. I meant you were angry. I mean, you're a good-looking dude, though. you could be hot, too. Whatever works.
01:27:28
jamie peacock
Nice. ah But yeah, anyway, Shwido. Okay, cool. So thank you everybody for listening. It is greatly appreciated. If you're on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, please give us a five-star review.
01:27:42
jamie peacock
If you're on YouTube, please hit like and subscribe there to get the new episodes. If you're on either of those, we're on the other one too, just in case for some reason you want to listen on both.
01:27:50
Curt
right
01:27:52
jamie peacock
It would be appreciated. ah But yeah, thank you everybody for listening. We will see you same time next week.
01:28:00
Curt
Take care all.