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Ep. 14: Smoke Signals from the Workbench
99 Plays24 days ago
Join Curt and Jamie as they discuss their week, including topics such as: Letting the magic smoke out…twice; and Ass(embly) Trays.
Links Discussed:
The Lone Machinist:
- Website: https://thelonemachinists.com/
- Merch: https://www.jspeceng.com/online-store
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/TheLoneMachinists
Jamie:
Curt:
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Transcript
Jamie's Budgeting Strategies
00:00:46
jamie peacock
Oh, it's good. how are you doing this morning?
00:00:49
Curt
I'm doing fantastic, Jamie. How are you doing this evening?
00:00:51
jamie peacock
No, I'm doing well. Had a bit of a potato day.
00:00:55
Curt
Potato day?
00:00:56
jamie peacock
it's yeah it's month end and electricity's prepaid here and it's more expensive at the end of the month so i didn't want to buy more electricity i'd rather wait till tomorrow and it's like 30 cheaper for the first uh about a thousand rounds worth of electricity is a bit cheaper so just did admin stuff and uh yeah drove around a bit today went and looked at uh replacement vehicles for the work vehicle
00:01:16
Curt
Oh, interesting.
00:01:19
jamie peacock
So be yeah, yeah.
00:01:20
Curt
sir
00:01:21
jamie peacock
So yeah, without prepaid, like it's 30, literally 30% cheaper in the beginning of the month. And this month we burned through quite a bit of power.
00:01:25
Curt
Oh, wow.
00:01:27
jamie peacock
So we're at the maximum rates and I'm like, I don't really want to buy. It's not a lot of money. It's a couple hundred bucks, but I'd rather it about tomorrow morning and get it cheaper.
00:01:37
jamie peacock
So
Innovations in Millwork Design
00:01:38
Curt
Yeah. Wow. Huh.
00:01:39
jamie peacock
that's the plan.
00:01:40
jamie peacock
Yeah. Got a bunch of millwork going on, but so yeah, doing admin stuff, cleaned the floor, designed, uh, ashtrays,
00:01:41
Curt
That's... Nice.
00:01:45
Curt
Nice.
00:01:49
Curt
ashtrays. I like this.
00:01:50
jamie peacock
House trays, yeah, assembly trays.
00:01:53
Curt
that Makes sense.
00:01:53
jamie peacock
So, yeah, I took a note from Pearson and designed a tray that all the components fit on, except for the body, because, well, you can't assemble the pallet system without the body, so it doesn't need a place on the tray.
00:01:53
Curt
I get it.
00:02:06
jamie peacock
Now, if you manage to assemble it without that, you deserve a frigging medal.
00:02:06
Curt
right Yeah.
00:02:09
jamie peacock
ah The idea is you fill up the tray, assemble everything. If anything's left over, then you know you've missed something.
00:02:15
Curt
Nice. Yeah, I like the like Pokeyoke kind of deals.
00:02:16
jamie peacock
So...
00:02:18
jamie peacock
the first The first piece of the three, I to break it into three pieces to print it. um The first piece is on the printer now, see how it comes out in the morning, and then just test fit O-rings and things and make sure all works nicely. But yeah, that's part of the part of the ramping up production on Anchor Point.
00:02:36
Curt
No,
Beta Testing and Production Adjustments
00:02:37
Curt
sick. I'm excited. I know mine mine is in transit. The beta unit's in transit here. So I'm i'm very excited to ah to get it and play with it.
00:02:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:02:43
Curt
and yeah see I'm just um i mostly just curious to see how well it repeats. So I think I'll probably be the one that's pushing it the hardest out of anybody that's beta testing it because want to use it for screws.
00:02:48
jamie peacock
yeah
00:02:53
Curt
so i have to get like I'd like to position it within a tenth.
00:02:54
jamie peacock
yeah
00:02:57
Curt
So we'll see. um'm I'm really curious.
00:02:59
jamie peacock
In theory, well, yeah, depends. You might need to make your own pallets or just, uh, put the pallets in the machine at 90 degrees and bore the holes or tighter holes.
00:03:04
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:03:08
jamie peacock
Cause I do them with a bit of a tolerance.
00:03:09
Curt
Yeah, right.
00:03:10
jamie peacock
Otherwise getting it on and off is a little tricky, but there are drawings.
00:03:13
Curt
Yeah, that makes sense.
00:03:14
jamie peacock
If you want them, let's send you the model for the pallets and then you can machine up your own pallets.
00:03:19
Curt
Sick. I might get you to do that. Yeah, because might I might piss around with it.
00:03:20
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah, it's going on the website.
00:03:22
Curt
But yeah.
00:03:23
jamie peacock
There's a resource section. I just need to actually get the files prepared to a point where I'm happy to release them.
00:03:27
Curt
That's smart.
00:03:29
jamie peacock
But yeah, what have what have you been up to this week?
00:03:29
Curt
It's a good idea.
00:03:32
Curt
Oh, just a ton of ton of production, bunch of fun stuff, too. but There's a whole plethora of things. ah I'm basically just gearing up to work those Canada pens. I try to push them onto the style machine and then realize that dialing the fourth.
00:03:50
Curt
Like the fourth axis on my little Kurt mill, I've always like tweaked with it and adjusted it. And I always assumed I'm like, it's probably not as accurate as I think it is.
Navigating Licensing Costs
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Curt
um And I have so much code that's just hand tweaked to get the finishes to get.
00:04:01
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:03
Curt
It's hard to explain, but like a three axis chamfer on a round body, you kind of have to push the tool around differently because you don't get, it doesn't look the same if you just do it to standard chamfer.
00:04:07
jamie peacock
yeah
00:04:11
Curt
Anyways. I've tweaked, I've hand tweaked that code and I don't want to do that moving into the big machine because it's like going through it line by line and altering the actual positions to get it to do what I want. And that's just so tedious.
00:04:22
jamie peacock
the
00:04:23
Curt
And if I make, if I make any changes, it's literally me sitting there for hours um playing with it. So ah yeah, I threw it on this island. just not quite what I want. The finishes are fantastic, but like the, just the way the machine is moving, it's not exactly how I want it to move.
00:04:34
jamie peacock
yeah have you have you used the 3d deburr toolpath in fusion
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Curt
So yeah. so I just spent a lot of time doing that.
00:04:44
Curt
I don't think I have, because that's under one of the manufacturing extensions.
00:04:47
jamie peacock
yes but you as far as i know you can get 30-day trial or something for free i've used ma
00:04:49
Curt
Yeah.
00:04:52
Curt
Yes, i I have the 30 or I see the 30 day trial.
00:04:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, I've used my 30 day trial long ago. Like it's actually a problem if my one customer sends me, if we, if he places another order, it's a bit of a problem because I did the parts on the slow EO and yeah, now i'm not going to be able well, might be able to just repost, but I'm going to want to make tweaks and then I'm not going be able to tweak.
00:04:59
Curt
That's the same. Right.
00:05:08
Curt
right
00:05:15
Curt
Yeah, like I have a weird project coming up where I know I'm going to need all the things from the manufacturing extension, so I'm trying not to use it.
00:05:20
jamie peacock
So you,
00:05:21
Curt
And then, yeah, I mean, I'll probably buy a flex license, like just credits, but I mean, that's still like, it's like 20 or 40 bucks for 48 hours.
00:05:26
jamie peacock
Yeah, I was going to say, you can you can do it with credits.
00:05:31
Curt
So it's still not cheap, but it's still cheaper than 2,000 bucks a year whatever that is.
00:05:33
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, cheaper than three yeah cheaper than three times the price of Fusion for the year.
00:05:39
Curt
I know, it's like, get it, but whatever.
00:05:39
jamie peacock
Like, that's an it's brutal. Well, you would think Onshape is cheap. Have you looked at the pricing on Onshape?
00:05:46
Curt
No, no, I haven't. I honestly have not looked anywhere.
00:05:47
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:05:50
jamie peacock
Three times the price of Fusion per year.
00:05:52
Curt
Really? For Onshape?
00:05:54
jamie peacock
for for pro license. So that means that your shit isn't shared on the internet for free.
00:05:56
Curt
well well
00:05:58
jamie peacock
um
00:05:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:05:59
jamie peacock
So like their hobby license, it's whatever you save there is accessible to anybody. ah To have that behind some protections, it's then like $1,500 a thousand five hundred dollars a year I thought it was way cheaper than that.
00:06:11
Curt
Well, I...
00:06:12
jamie peacock
I've been promoting it to all the guys in my robot league and for them it's fine.
00:06:13
Curt
Yeah, sort of...
00:06:16
jamie peacock
Like if someone steals your robot design, oh no, but there's stuff I do under NDA.
00:06:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:06:21
jamie peacock
So then obviously I can't ah can't use the free version.
00:06:24
jamie peacock
Not that I would want to move away from Fusion.
00:06:25
Curt
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
00:06:28
Curt
And I love fusion. It does like, it does 95% of everything I want to do, but now I'm doing like all the fourth access stuff I want to do.
00:06:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:34
Curt
There's like three, fourth access tool pass you get for free. And all the useful ones for me are all the manufacturing extension ones.
00:06:39
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:06:40
Curt
So it's like, well, I know I'm gonna have eat that at some point. And when I'm using it like continuously,
00:06:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Perfecting Designs in Production
00:06:45
Curt
it'll pay for itself.
00:06:46
Curt
But right now it's just like, Oh, I don't want to spend that kind of cash. So just biding my time.
00:06:50
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's a bit brutal. Yeah.
00:06:52
Curt
Yeah, it's up there.
00:06:53
jamie peacock
But I mean, your your code, and in theory, most of your stuff could just be programmed and then you freeze that version of the code and you just run that. You wouldn't necessarily need to output every day.
00:07:01
Curt
Absolutely.
00:07:04
Curt
No. So, and if I, I just want to get my designs like perfect to where I'm ready to drop cam onto them and then use one of like, either use my try trial or just buy like the, uh, the one day and then post all the code and then, yeah.
00:07:05
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:10
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:14
jamie peacock
The 48 hour, yeah.
00:07:16
Curt
And then, then I can coast for a few months and then do it again, then coast.
00:07:19
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:07:19
Curt
And so, yeah.
00:07:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean, that that is that's the that's why they have that option. Like, because they know some guys need it just for one little job and then they're not going to need it again.
00:07:25
Curt
Yeah.
00:07:30
jamie peacock
So kind of makes sense.
00:07:31
Curt
Yeah, no. Yeah, I know it's going to be it's going to be death death by a thousand cuts.
00:07:33
jamie peacock
But yeah. Okay, so yeah. Yeah.
00:07:36
Curt
Like I know every year it's going to be more limited. More is going to move to add on. just the nature of the beast. But hey,
00:07:41
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Anodizing Samples and Production
00:07:42
Curt
if you need it, it's going to make you money.
00:07:43
Curt
It's kind of no brainer. But yeah.
00:07:45
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, 100%. Yeah.
00:07:49
Curt
Yeah. So how's your.
00:07:49
jamie peacock
See, you've been up to up to a lot of things. Pick one of the things, and then we'll dive into one of the ones on the document.
00:07:55
Curt
I'm I want. I want to hear about your, it sounds lame, but I want to hear your, and ah your ano samples you got back. I saw some video on the stories of your.
00:08:02
jamie peacock
And that's not lame. That's exciting. Yeah.
00:08:06
jamie peacock
So it's, the finish is interesting. They electro polished it by the looks of it or electro etched it.
00:08:06
Curt
Oh,
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Curt
okay.
00:08:11
jamie peacock
So the finish is a little bit different.
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Curt
Okay.
00:08:14
jamie peacock
Let's put it that way. ah There were two or four racking marks I wasn't happy with, but I think that'll be resolved going forward.
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Curt
Hmm.
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jamie peacock
I don't know. I think that's where they racked it for the electro polishing. um
00:08:24
Curt
Hmm.
00:08:24
jamie peacock
Other than that, pretty happy. There was exactly zero growth that I can measure.
00:08:29
jamie peacock
Maybe five microns.
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Curt
How?
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Curt
How?
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jamie peacock
Because they etch it.
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Curt
How?
00:08:32
jamie peacock
So they etch it back like 10 microns and then they build up 10 microns again.
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Curt
Oh, okay.
00:08:36
jamie peacock
So I was a but i was a bit taken aback because I was expecting 20 microns per side.
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Curt
Okay.
00:08:42
jamie peacock
And it is exactly as I sent it out.
00:08:42
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:08:45
jamie peacock
Like within the margins, I can measure two with the inside mic.
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Curt
I mean, that's...
00:08:48
jamie peacock
It is exactly as I sent it out.
00:08:51
Curt
Well, that's nice, then. At least you can depend on that.
00:08:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. So well, we hope. Hope I don't send it out and everything comes back small.
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Curt
Ah.
00:08:58
jamie peacock
But I'm going air on the the looser side for the Lang studs and then right on size for the locating pins. And then I should be i should be safe. I can always deform the aluminum like 20 microns.
00:09:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:10
jamie peacock
That's a minor detail.
00:09:12
Curt
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not too much.
00:09:13
jamie peacock
Yeah. So yeah that came
Scaling Production and Financial Management
00:09:15
jamie peacock
out. That came. Well, I went and fetched It didn't come in. I went and fetched it um on Friday, on a day of the week. I went and fetched it.
00:09:24
jamie peacock
I can't even remember when. So yeah, no, that looks really sweet. And then, yeah, we're rolling with production now. um I made those fancy process sheets.
00:09:24
Curt
Yeah.
00:09:34
Curt
Sick. Sick. Yeah, those are pretty.
00:09:37
jamie peacock
yll went Yeah, I went and got them printed yesterday. The place was open on Sunday morning, so I went through and spent like $5 to have them printed and laminated. And then I printed a bunch of magnets with anchors on because why not?
00:09:50
Curt
yeah
00:09:50
jamie peacock
The resin printer was standing.
00:09:51
Curt
i saw that I saw the magnets and i saw the ends.
00:09:54
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:09:54
Curt
of like, what? I'm like, are those little? And I'm like, oh, they're anchors. They're anchors. I'm like, okay, that's way.
00:09:59
jamie peacock
yeah
00:10:00
Curt
I thought it was something different. They're so little.
00:10:02
jamie peacock
No, no, no.
00:10:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:10:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, little anchors. And then that lets me track all the processes. So like the stuff that had to be ordered from China has been ordered. I have 60 pull studs on the way and 15 slide valves from the one supplier and ordered a bunch of tools as well, but more just so that I have stock of tools than anything else.
00:10:14
Curt
Mm. Mm.
00:10:19
jamie peacock
um
00:10:20
Curt
Cool.
00:10:21
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's all on order. I think I ordered a 12 millimeter T-slot cutter. So 32 diameter, 12 millimeter length of cut. Then I'm going to rough the T-slot or the toe clamp slots out with my current cutter and then just come in with that and do a finish pass.
00:10:36
jamie peacock
Just so that the inside of the of the toe clamp slot is smooth, not stepped.
00:10:37
Curt
Oh.
00:10:42
Curt
That makes sense.
00:10:42
jamie peacock
that Stupid things. like Things that probably don't need to be done, but i'm going to do them anyway.
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Curt
Yeah.
00:10:47
Curt
Yeah. Well, it's, yeah, it's kind of that, those, that last 5% is what people are with. Some people notice, not all people notice, but it's, it's nice.
00:10:54
jamie peacock
Yeah, yeah.
00:10:54
Curt
I like when people take care to do that little stuff. That's cool.
00:10:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, so we're trying to yeah get all that get all that dialed in. I ordered the material this morning for it ah for the 15 units. So 10 will probably go up for sale and four will probably end up in my machine.
00:11:09
jamie peacock
um Yeah, I didn't want to only make 10 and then we have some setback and then we can't sell all 10.
00:11:09
Curt
Sick.
00:11:14
jamie peacock
So I ordered in material for 15.
00:11:17
Curt
Cool.
00:11:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, so building a bit of a buffer.
00:11:19
Curt
Yeah, that's awesome. Well, that's awesome.
00:11:21
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's on track.
00:11:22
Curt
If it.
00:11:24
jamie peacock
We'll see if it stays on track. Kind of waiting. I'm kind of waiting for tomorrow so I can order a bunch of the stuff that's on account. Like my Eurosteel, I have an account with them. So if I wait till tomorrow, then i' have to pay for it in like 60 days time.
00:11:39
jamie peacock
So I'm exploiting that.
00:11:39
Curt
Oh, right. Yeah. New month. Yeah.
00:11:41
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, i may as well. um There's a few other things that I'm exploiting that with. And then, yeah, getting going to start rolling through the production process, which I'm quite excited for.
00:11:52
Curt
Yeah, no doubt. No, it's it's a cool product. And like I said, I'm, yeah. if it If it does what it says on the box, I'm um absolutely interested in ah
00:11:56
jamie peacock
um yeah
Community Engagement and Patreon Growth
00:11:59
Curt
in a couple of them.
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Curt
So
00:12:00
jamie peacock
Awesome. It's definitely going to do that because it says nothing on the box. It will meet all the specs on the box.
00:12:06
Curt
I'm not too concerned. Every single one you put out. Yeah, sick.
00:12:10
jamie peacock
There we go.
00:12:12
Curt
that's That's cool.
00:12:12
jamie peacock
ah Yeah. So did you get tool center point working?
00:12:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:12:17
Curt
I oddly enough, so the Siemens control or the post, I think of the post I sent you as well. um
00:12:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, sent me the post.
00:12:23
Curt
I've just been, yeah, I've just been lobotomizing it and pissing around with it. And ah I realized when i was setting up the fourth axis, I accidentally turned on tool center point and it does have tool center point control in the Siemens post natively.
00:12:39
Curt
ah because when I went to do some fourth axis slotting on my machine i was like why is this slot coming out all sorts of weird I'm like it's kind of right but it's like I wasn't looking at the machine I kind of glanced to make sure it wasn't going to crash i'm like oh it's happy and it's covered in coolant I couldn't hear couldn't see anything and then when it came to do the chamfer that's when loud noises started to happen it just took a way meatier cut and nothing crashed but um then I looked and like it's
00:12:39
jamie peacock
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:03
Curt
So and after I ran it again, just to watch it. And yeah, as the fourth axis spun, the tool point just followed where the, where the point was. And I was like Oh, cool. I have tool center point on, obviously I forgot to turn it off. And anyway, so, but yeah, if you're, if you're interested in ah in that, it's, it's, it's in the post somewhere.
00:13:13
jamie peacock
yeah well that's pretty sweet
00:13:19
Curt
So yeah.
00:13:21
jamie peacock
somewhere yeah the uh fourth axis maybe down the line my plan right now is anchor point on anchor point on anchor point to do uh fourth axis work i have very stupid plans afoot like very very dumb plans to be able to do the side hole but yeah if it's dumb and it works it isn't dumb
00:13:22
Curt
Yeah. Well,
00:13:26
Curt
yeah.
00:13:31
Curt
That's a smart idea. Yeah, that would be cool. But...
00:13:40
Curt
If they're dumb and it works. Exactly.
00:13:42
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:13:43
Curt
Yeah, exactly.
00:13:44
jamie peacock
So yeah, I'm going build that down the down the road a little bit. The plan's afoot there. I've designed a riser. I just need some out of material I have around. I just need to make it. I just haven't got around to it yet.
00:13:57
Curt
Nice.
00:13:58
jamie peacock
To actually put the Gen 4 into my machine. I'm still running a Gen 2. Like I'm generations behind.
00:14:06
Curt
Did you put a new...
00:14:06
jamie peacock
But it's also one of those things where if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
00:14:10
Curt
Right. Did you put a new body on the Gen 2 or did you just solid Gen 2 running on that machine right now?
00:14:15
jamie peacock
solid gen two made a gen three with the ground pads and there's a bunch of tweaks um then i stripped my gen three and put it into the components into the gen four the first gen four and i just i have to remake the riser yeah so um i've got rebuild the riser and i haven't had a chance to do that yet yeah i've been busy making a coolant manifold
00:14:16
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:14:25
Curt
Okay. That's what I was thinking.
00:14:32
Curt
Nice. Yeah. Yeah, as I've been seeing some progress on that. So you're machining it because you printed it. and Now you're machining it out of aluminum.
00:14:41
jamie peacock
ah Yeah, so i just printed a thing to check check the fits.
00:14:43
Curt
Cool.
00:14:45
jamie peacock
Now busy machining it out of aluminium. I've got to put in soft jaws tomorrow. I've got a soft jaw that's like 300 millimeters long for a job, a recurring job.
00:14:54
Curt
Cool. Cool.
00:14:54
jamie peacock
So that's going to go on the one side and then I'll just cut a soft jaw for the other side at the same, same step level. And then I can machine the optus. I just like said, didn't want to run the machine today it actually took Sunday off.
00:15:05
jamie peacock
So yeah, I haven't been in the workshop really too much today.
00:15:08
Curt
home
00:15:10
jamie peacock
Ended up gallivanting around and then doing CAD work.
00:15:14
Curt
Is that coolant manifold you're making? Does that take those little, like you made those kind of round adjustable like ball coolant?
00:15:21
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:15:21
Curt
Okay, those are so pretty.
00:15:21
jamie peacock
So what I'll do, yeah. So what I'll do is I'm going to set ah probably three of them at the shorter length. So a lot of my tools are like the holders are either 60 or 70 gauge, and then I've got 100 gauge tools.
00:15:34
jamie peacock
So I'll set three of them at the 60 gauge that it hits like my big roughing tools and my um my standard like ah standard general tools. And then for my longer tools, I'll have two nozzles pointing lower down.
00:15:47
jamie peacock
Because think there's seven nozzles.
00:15:47
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:15:50
jamie peacock
and know. There's a whole pile of nozzles on there. So i will I'll mess around with them and get them that I don't ever have to adjust it. Because I've got a job now where I need to salami slice off 10 different layers.
00:15:56
Curt
Nice.
00:16:00
jamie peacock
And it's always a problem with the coolant.
00:16:04
Curt
Yeah, yeah, no, I get that.
00:16:05
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I'm just going to... That's why I'm rushing to get the manifold finish. even know if I'm going to anodize it before I put it on.
00:16:14
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:16:14
jamie peacock
because I kind of want to get cracking on that job material. so I ordered or had five pieces of material and I need technically five pieces. So I ordered a spare one because I normally like to run just a couple spare parts because they get lost in the machine because they're tiny.
00:16:29
jamie peacock
um
00:16:29
Curt
yeah Oh, be cool.
00:16:30
jamie peacock
So I'll normally run like I'll run five full bars and I'll run another two cycles off another bar. And then I've got to run 100 of that the mating components, which I'll only get the material for probably either late this week or early next week, just because the guys are doing a stock take at my material vendor.
00:16:50
jamie peacock
And also asked him to cut me like 400 pieces of material.
00:16:55
jamie peacock
Like I'm a savage. I'm like, Nope. Yeah, it's not worth me cutting material. I'm like, just supply all this, please.
00:16:55
Curt
Well, hey, better than static.
00:17:01
Curt
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:17:01
jamie peacock
Here's a list. And then they cut cut to size. Like all the anchor point stuff will come 120 by 120 by 50. And yeah didn't order the pallets yet. Those I'll order later in the month because I mean, those are super quick.
00:17:13
jamie peacock
to machine so right now i'm just focusing on the stuff that's got additional processes so the body um the pad the pads the big one i've got to order tool steel tomorrow for that from ah one customer and then when that comes in get it all machined get it off to heat treat get it back start grinding it all yeah there's lots of processes on lots of things
00:17:35
Curt
Yeah, it sounds like you got a lot things.
00:17:36
jamie peacock
but yeah, nothing that, nothing that we can't, uh, get our heads around.
00:17:36
Curt
as Well, at least you're figuring it out, like getting everything.
00:17:42
jamie peacock
Like that's also was the point of the, the beta units was to get my head around the processes that I know what's required before we go into production.
00:17:50
Curt
hmm.
00:17:51
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:17:52
Curt
Yeah.
00:17:52
jamie peacock
Justin said to me, if our if you release a product and you're not, uh, and you're, and you're not disappointed, disappointed with it in the future or you're not, no, it wasn't disappointed. Uh,
00:18:04
jamie peacock
If you don't feel bad about releasing it in the future, you released it too late. And I'm like, I'm glad I pushed this because the V4 is significantly better than then what we had.
00:18:08
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:13
jamie peacock
And obviously that the V4 will become the production version.
00:18:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:18:16
jamie peacock
It'll be the V1 when we release.
00:18:18
Curt
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:20
jamie peacock
Yeah, but I'll just keep calling it V4 for now.
00:18:21
Curt
No, that's cool.
00:18:24
Curt
No, it's like the perfect advice because everyone always wants to polish it to like maximum. And it's like, no, you're not going to. Yeah. You're just going to you sit forever.
00:18:30
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:31
Curt
and Analysis by per hour paralysis by whatever.
00:18:32
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no. It'll sit forever if you try and polish it.
00:18:33
Curt
is Right, yeah. I just like, yeah, I know.
00:18:36
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:18:39
jamie peacock
But yeah, speaking speaking of Justin, we have so we have more than one Patreon now.
00:18:40
Curt
I know.
00:18:45
Curt
Oh.
00:18:46
jamie peacock
Yes. Justin from Toolpath joined the Patreon because he says he likes to have us both in his ears. Um, and yeah, Ken, Ken from Robinson's custom creations and also flux workholding joined the Patreon as well.
00:18:53
Curt
Oh, I appreciate it.
00:19:00
jamie peacock
So third time in a row that Ken's getting a shout out, but yeah, thanks guys.
00:19:01
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:19:04
Curt
Oh, sick.
00:19:04
jamie peacock
It's greatly, greatly appreciated. And now, uh, there's more than Patreon. We have
Technical Troubleshooting in the Workshop
00:19:10
jamie peacock
Patreons.
00:19:11
Curt
Yeah, that's awesome. Actually, ah Jade reached out to me and was chatting.
00:19:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:14
Curt
So that's that's cool.
00:19:14
jamie peacock
Oh, okay.
00:19:15
Curt
It's kind of neat to have a tight community.
00:19:15
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:19:17
Curt
So and we appreciate appreciateci all you friends.
00:19:18
jamie peacock
Yes. No, no, it's very much so. Like, Yeah, no, thank you everybody who supports Patreon.
00:19:21
Curt
Just know that, yeah, and every one of your dollars just goes back into making this thing go. So it's like, yay.
00:19:29
jamie peacock
100%. It is now paying for itself. Like, we now have enough Patreons that Zencaster is paid for by the Patreons.
00:19:32
Curt
yay
00:19:37
Curt
Yay.
00:19:37
jamie peacock
Which is awesome, yeah. But yeah, so, I see, well, we were discussing the LiPo.
00:19:40
Curt
Oh, that's awesome.
00:19:43
jamie peacock
Actually, no. What machine did you use so wrong that it became a smoke machine? Twice.
00:19:50
Curt
Well, that was, ah so with that induction heater I have, this is causing all kinds of funness. um So I bought one of those, it's like 1800 watt in induction coil and it needs 1800 watts to run it.
00:19:59
jamie peacock
but
00:20:04
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:06
Curt
And I'm like, you know what? If I underpower it, like I bought a power supply that was only like a thousand watts, but I'm like, it's going to be underpowered. But the power supply specifically said like it has overcurrent protection, like it'll protect itself if you try to pull more.
00:20:18
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:18
Curt
i like, you know what?
00:20:19
Curt
I'm going to test on this. A thousand watts should be plenty for my needs. Plugged it all in. And I had... I had the module induction module sitting on top the power supply because it has little standoffs. And i'm like, well, it's grounded to the standoffs and the power supply should be grounded.
00:20:30
jamie peacock
yeah
00:20:32
Curt
So I'm like, I shouldn't have any problems here. um So I flicked the the little switch on to make it go. And then just, uh-oh, I dropped out. All right.
00:20:40
jamie peacock
Sorry, that me because you've been frozen for like a month of Sundays.
00:20:40
Curt
Can you still hear me?
00:20:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, I can still hear you. Just untoggle it.
00:20:45
Curt
Oh, there we go.
00:20:45
jamie peacock
Sorry, guys.
00:20:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. kz Oh, there we go. Okay. He's been frozen for like a month on my side. So I just thought, let me see if I can toggle it.
00:20:46
Curt
No sweat.
00:20:52
jamie peacock
But yeah. proper Proper podcast hosts here.
00:20:52
Curt
ah Okay.
00:20:54
Curt
Anyways, sorry. Yeah, exactly.
00:20:56
jamie peacock
So yes, you're saying you...
00:20:57
Curt
This wouldn't be proper.
00:20:57
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:20:59
Curt
Flick the switch and just like ah hear a pop and see sparks and smell smoke. And I'm like oh no. So I quickly turn it off and ah looked and on on that little module, there's a ah basically like a buck boost regulator, DC regulator that takes your...
00:21:06
jamie peacock
Ooh.
00:21:14
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:14
Curt
48 volts is what it runs on and drops it down to 12 volts to run the fans. And it just exploded. So I'm like, you know what? It probably had some like AC feedback from the chassis of the power supply. Something weird happened where it just got angry.
00:21:24
Curt
So I'm like, okay, that's only running the fans.
00:21:25
jamie peacock
yeah
00:21:26
Curt
I shouldn't like everything else just runs on high voltage. So it shouldn't matter. So I insulated it from the power supply and ah flicked it back on. And it was fine. And then ah it was it was drawing current. So I'm like, oh, so I put just a bolt in the induction coil and it started warming up and started getting... ice Smoke started coming off because had some oil on the bolt. and I'm like, oh, perfect. It's working. And then all of a sudden, a bunch of smoke poured out the power supply.
00:21:49
Curt
I was like, oh, no, two times the magic smoke.
00:21:50
jamie peacock
Oh shit.
00:21:52
Curt
So yeah, and then the power supply just ate it. um So apparently it did not have overcurrent protection and it just gave everything it could until it just melted. and so Yeah, ah didn't that didn't work out.
00:22:03
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's...
00:22:04
Curt
ah But thankfully, DigiKey exists.
00:22:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
00:22:08
Curt
And I mean, electronic repair is kind of my forte. So I bought the little buck boost regulator and some capacitors that also weren't so happy.
00:22:12
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:22:16
Curt
Actually, that should be here any minute now, and then I'll populate it later today. And then ah next for the power supply, I'm going to just run it off some big, beefy lipos because they're not going to care. And then ah if that works out, then I'll buy a power supply.
00:22:26
jamie peacock
yeah
00:22:27
Curt
But like a 60 amp, 48 volt power supply is not...
00:22:30
jamie peacock
That is literally what what I did.
00:22:32
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:34
jamie peacock
No, they're not cheap. So I blew up an inductive heater because I put it on a power supply and the power supply basically saw it as a short, tried to turn back on, came up at a low voltage and the thing didn't start resonating.
00:22:50
jamie peacock
And it then yeah then blew up the the inductive heater unit.
00:22:50
Curt
Yeah.
00:22:50
Curt
yeah
00:22:55
jamie peacock
So then I ran it on some LiPo's, but then the LiPo's over-discharged and the voltage dropped and it stopped resonating and blew up. So my experience with the yeah my experience with inductive heaters is not great.
00:23:03
Curt
Oh, no.
00:23:06
jamie peacock
I have another two in the workshop, small little 5 to 12 volt ones that I need to play with, but i'm just going to put them on a PC power supply and hope for the best. also bought two of them now it's ah it's 100 watts or 200 watts like a pc power supply should easily do that yeah
00:23:18
Curt
ah Okay. Yeah, I should have no issue with that, especially. Yeah, they they can maintain a nice clean voltage. yeah Usually at a good amount of current.
00:23:25
jamie peacock
yeah oh no they can do a shitload of current i used my i bought an xbox 360 back in the day
00:23:25
Curt
So, yeah. Yeah.
00:23:31
jamie peacock
Came with an American plug and I plugged it in and went kaboom. So I now have this Xbox 360 and no power supply. So I went to board a PC power supply, i hacked the cables off, made a, put a toggle switch on the the green and black to turn it on.
00:23:44
jamie peacock
And that thing ran my Xbox until it got stolen.
00:23:47
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:23:48
jamie peacock
Yeah. My friend 12 volt power supply is 12.
00:23:50
Curt
I mean, not nice.
00:23:50
jamie peacock
And those things are like 13, 14 amps usually on the 12 volt rail. If not a bit more nowadays.
00:23:55
Curt
Oh, really? Huh.
00:23:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. Oh no, they are a hell of a lot of power.
00:24:00
Curt
Wow. I mean, i guess it makes sense.
00:24:00
jamie peacock
Like,
00:24:01
Curt
like you're You're using a lot of power to generate that kind of graphic work.
00:24:02
jamie peacock
Yeah. I mean, ma some of my older printers used to, actually my first two printers used, i'll just go by PC PowerSplot, chop the plug off and put the the green and black through a relay and then ah a momentary and then have to turn it on.
00:24:18
jamie peacock
And those ran 3D printers, no problem. Because mean, a printer's a couple hundred watts.
00:24:22
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:24:23
jamie peacock
They're not a lot of power.
00:24:24
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly. and Yeah, yeah.
00:24:25
jamie peacock
Like in the grand scheme of things. But yeah.
00:24:28
Curt
Yeah, so I'm trying to get smart. I bought a watt meter too, so I'll put the watt meter in line just so I can monitor the voltage and the current so I can be like, OK, my current or my voltage is dropping.
00:24:34
jamie peacock
yeah
00:24:37
Curt
I can drop out before. Because so I only get about maybe three minutes of runtime on these little LIPOs before ah everything goes south.
00:24:42
jamie peacock
yeah i bought one of those bought a big 100 amp current shunt and voltage regular voltage measuring thingy for my boat so that i could see how much the trawling motor was drawing because then that lets me decide how much of battery backup i actually need because turns out it only pulls like 30 amps max
00:24:42
Curt
so But it'll let me test it.
00:24:51
Curt
Yep.
00:25:01
jamie peacock
on a 30 pound trawling motor, like way less.
00:25:02
Curt
Oh, that's not too bad.
Vehicle Considerations for Business
00:25:04
jamie peacock
And you go down from five to three, you're still doing a decent speed and it's pulling like seven amps.
00:25:04
Curt
Yeah.
00:25:10
Curt
Oh, nice. yeah
00:25:10
jamie peacock
Like the speed gain you get for double the power is really not worth it.
00:25:16
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:17
jamie peacock
But yeah, thinking of getting rid of my boat.
00:25:17
Curt
Yeah. I know. That's.
00:25:19
jamie peacock
I haven't used it since December.
00:25:22
Curt
Oh, yeah. Well, that's a long time to sit on it if you're not playing with it.
00:25:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:25:26
jamie peacock
I think I used it like three times last year.
00:25:29
jamie peacock
So we'll see. It's something I am considering getting. It's a small boat, but we'll see. I was looking at a and a vehicle today. There's a Nissan.
00:25:29
Curt
Hmm.
00:25:41
jamie peacock
These people who name cars need to be just taken out back and freaking shot. It's the Nissan Magnat. It's the Magnat Move, which is a it's a little hatchback type, like a little compact car, but the back seats been taken out and it's converted to be a like a small panel van.
00:25:48
Curt
Oh. Oh.
00:26:00
jamie peacock
So it's a five-door panel van effectively, which means I can claim back the tax on the purchase through the business and also load it as a business as asset so I can pay less less tax because taxation is theft.
00:26:01
Curt
oh
00:26:12
jamie peacock
Um, cause my, my little truck is driving me mad. It's randomly overheating every now and again, and I can't find the issue. So I'm going to sell it to some unlucky soul and replace it.
00:26:25
Curt
Yeah, that works out.
00:26:26
jamie peacock
Yeah. like It's 11 years old.
00:26:27
Curt
Sure. Yeah.
00:26:28
jamie peacock
I was looking at one.
00:26:29
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:26:29
jamie peacock
I was going to pull up. I was going to go full Danny Rudolph and buy a mini truck, but I sat in one today.
00:26:33
Curt
Yes.
00:26:35
jamie peacock
It's crumple zone is the, the crumple zone is my feet.
00:26:39
jamie peacock
The only accessory in the cab is the hazard lights.
00:26:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:39
Curt
Yeah.
00:26:43
jamie peacock
There's no fan. There's no heater. There is no radio. It is hazard lights. That's it. um And for not too much more money, I can get something that's actually comfortable to drive.
00:26:54
jamie peacock
And i would be ah I would be happy to jump in and drive four five hours in because it's effectively a car. Air con all the bells and whistles. Just no back seat, which is fine. I only want to put two Rottweilers in the back seat. So perfect.
00:27:09
jamie peacock
Also, it lets me load up the back with stuff, lock it, and drive through Joburg and not worry about someone stealing shit off the back of my bucky.
00:27:09
Curt
Yeah.
00:27:16
jamie peacock
Because that is a little bit of a concern.
00:27:17
Curt
Yeah, no, in totally. like
00:27:18
jamie peacock
Like, if you've got tools and stuff on the back, and you're driving through the oaks, literally run up, grab it, and run. So, don't want that happening.
00:27:26
Curt
Yeah, love those mini trucks.
00:27:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, that that was...
00:27:27
Curt
i would I would so buy a mini truck.
00:27:28
jamie peacock
They're super cute.
00:27:30
Curt
Oh, yeah. My old boss had one and he let me drive it around.
00:27:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:32
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:33
Curt
And like you could drive it forward and then slam the brakes and the back wheels would lift up like because you're like over the front axle.
00:27:38
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:39
Curt
But yeah, exactly.
00:27:39
jamie peacock
So I could, yeah, we get nothing.
00:27:39
Curt
You said like you get you hit a you hit a another car at 20 and like goodbye legs.
00:27:44
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:27:45
Curt
like You're just going to be a little pretzel.
00:27:46
jamie peacock
Yeah. So there's, there's a slightly bigger one. So there's, that's the Suzuki super carry. Then there's the Jack, which is a Chinese one.
00:27:52
Curt
Mm
00:27:54
jamie peacock
Um, it's actually got a real size engine. It's got a 1.5 turbo diesel in it so and can load one and half tons, 700 kilos. ah Same price, but also bugger all inside it.
00:28:08
jamie peacock
Like no radio, no fan, just emergency lights. That's it. It's a little bit bigger. But ah if I'm going to spend i'm gonna spend the money, I may as well just get something that I actually want to drive around.
00:28:20
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:21
jamie peacock
Yeah, because I've got customers that are on hours drive from me. So if I've got to hop in and drive an hour, I want to air con and I want it to be comfortable. And and look, it's not going to be the fastest thing in the world. It's only a one liter, little one liter engine, but that's fine. I just to get speeding tickets.
00:28:36
jamie peacock
I'm sure I can catch a tailwind and go down a hill to hit 120.
00:28:37
Curt
Yeah.
00:28:42
jamie peacock
Like, it's what it is.
00:28:42
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:43
jamie peacock
Like, if it's comfortable, I don't really give a shit. Like, yeah, i have to add an aftermarket radio.
00:28:46
Curt
Totally.
00:28:47
jamie peacock
So it comes it comes without a radio. And to add a radio like $380. But they're like, no, they get a rebate. So it's only $100 to add. the But it's the OEM.
00:29:02
jamie peacock
Because that car's obviously got a bunch of variants. So it's the OEM really fancy like Android Auto radio for $100. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. I'll pay that.
00:29:13
jamie peacock
So yeah, are we seeing now?
00:29:13
Curt
Sure, yeah.
00:29:13
jamie peacock
I'm waiting for the bank waiting for the bank to come back to me.
00:29:17
Curt
Oh, cool.
00:29:18
jamie peacock
Yeah, because...
00:29:18
Curt
Yeah. I get one of those in a heartbeat, but we we live in the land of big trucks, whereas like if you're sitting in that vehicle, you're going to be like looking at the bottom of someone's headlights, and I'm like, nah, it's just a ah turn into...
00:29:21
jamie peacock
to have some patience.
00:29:25
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:29:29
jamie peacock
No, we've, so that that was a thing, like Danica wasn't, so also the, yeah, the little trucks don't have any safety features, no airbags, no ABS, nothing.
00:29:31
Curt
No.
00:29:40
jamie peacock
And also Danica drives it around and I've seen what she does. She rammed, she rammed a bunch of BMWs at one stage. So I'd rather have something with a bit of a safety pack on it.
00:29:49
Curt
No doubt, yeah, no doubt, yeah.
00:29:51
jamie peacock
um getting looked at because I said that she rams BMWs.
00:29:55
Curt
Well, and if you're going to ram anything, a BMW is a good one to ram.
00:30:00
jamie peacock
Yeah, she wrote off a Swift.
00:30:00
Curt
But...
00:30:01
jamie peacock
Yeah, she drove into a bunch of them.
00:30:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, like three them.
00:30:08
Curt
Oh...
Product Development and Customer Relations
00:30:12
jamie peacock
Yeah. Anyway, I see you are adding special smells to your boxes.
00:30:19
Curt
uh yeah so for the canadian pens that i'm now cranking out i was gonna push them to the next batch and then i had like waffled on them i'm like nope i'm just making them right now so i'm making them um i think i'm gonna anodize this first batch uh bronze because it's maple colored like that's i would do red but you can't you can't anodize red and titanium um so we're gonna go with bronze because it yeah it's
00:30:38
jamie peacock
Oh, interesting, yeah, never thought of that.
00:30:41
Curt
you can get You can get pink and you can get kind of close to red, but it doesn't look red.
00:30:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, but...
00:30:46
Curt
um So bronze is, everybody likes bronze.
00:30:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:48
Curt
It looks really good. It's super punchy and maple syrup colored. And then i was like, you know what? The boxes have to smell like maple syrup. So ah they already smell like burning because they've been laser cut. So they smell like campfires.
00:30:56
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:30:57
Curt
So i'm like, oh, so I found some maple syrup ah extract, like, and I'm going to put it in the boxes so that when people open the boxes, it should smell like campfire and maple syrup, which I think is about the best smell you can have.
00:31:06
jamie peacock
Well, my friend, my friend used to do laser cutting, he used to laser cut the stuff and then he would put it in a box with some, ah some nice smelling wood, ah like they store suits with.
00:31:19
jamie peacock
He would leave it there for like a week and then the burning campfire smell would go away and it would only smell of, uh, of the fancy smell.
00:31:24
Curt
o
00:31:28
jamie peacock
Ooh, guess what, Kurt?
00:31:28
Curt
ah That's a good idea too.
00:31:31
Curt
What's up?
00:31:31
jamie peacock
Your parcel has completed clearance.
00:31:35
Curt
ooh Oh, well, that's fantastic.
00:31:35
jamie peacock
And it's being processed.
00:31:36
Curt
because
00:31:37
jamie peacock
I kind of expect it to be there tomorrow at this point.
00:31:38
Curt
X. Oh, I would be very excited. Not that I can do too much yet, but yeah, it'd be nice to have it in hand and at least play with it.
00:31:42
jamie peacock
Yeah. and but Still.
00:31:47
jamie peacock
Yes. There's also some other stuff in the box.
00:31:47
Curt
I'm excited.
00:31:50
Curt
I'm very excited about that. And so are our Patreons probably, because I imagine they're going to slowly filter out to them.
00:31:51
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:31:53
jamie peacock
Probably.
00:31:55
Curt
So we'll figure that out.
00:31:57
jamie peacock
Yep, that's the plan. um Also, just ah Justin said, please don't let him win the pen. He specifically asked to not win the pen.
00:32:06
Curt
All right. Okay.
00:32:08
jamie peacock
The Patreon pen.
00:32:08
Curt
Well, appreciate that.
00:32:09
jamie peacock
But yeah, I was like, cool.
00:32:09
Curt
he He's a gentleman. He's talked to me of a few things about certain things.
00:32:11
jamie peacock
Oh, no, yes.
00:32:12
Curt
And he's, yeah, he's ah he's a cool dude.
00:32:14
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, no, he's a... I dig him. Like, we were chatting this week. He's like, no, also, just let him know what the shipping costs and he will pay the shipping on the beta units. I'm like, no worries.
00:32:22
Curt
Yeah, no, totally.
00:32:22
jamie peacock
As soon as it's shipped, we will we will chat about that.
00:32:26
Curt
Yeah, and that's what, like, as you said, you know like, friends don't want to get, like, friends don't want to get deals.
00:32:29
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:32:30
Curt
Like, I don't want you to give me a deal on when you go into production. fee I want to pay retail because I want you to do what you do. And it's worth it to me.
00:32:36
jamie peacock
Sure.
00:32:36
Curt
Like, it's it's it works all around.
00:32:37
jamie peacock
Well, yeah.
00:32:38
Curt
It's not like, yeah.
00:32:40
jamie peacock
that's That's what Dave, my mate Dave said to me. It's like, don't give me special friend price because if you give me special friend price now and you do that again and again and you then you got a business, then guess what? None of us are getting the benefit. So rather charge me going to charge me and just, yeah, like, don't play around.
00:32:50
Curt
Absolutely.
00:32:56
Curt
Yeah, no.
00:32:56
jamie peacock
But yeah.
00:32:57
Curt
So ah more resin printing.
00:32:59
jamie peacock
um ah
00:33:00
Curt
what What else are you printing now?
00:33:03
jamie peacock
the same thing but longer i delivered all yeah yeah deep breaths i delivered uh 62 the
00:33:05
Curt
ah Okay.
00:33:13
jamie peacock
because I printed 12 of them backwards and had no use for them. So i just gave them to them to use as assembly tests. Delivered 50 parts of the longer version. Got a message on Friday. Oh, could we possibly make it 10 millimeters longer? And can we have another 20? I'm like, sure.
00:33:28
jamie peacock
Then I got a follow-up email today. How soon can they get like 20 of these units? I'm like, I can come past tomorrow with like eight to 12 units. So I printed the first four and then realized I forgot to scale the model.
00:33:41
jamie peacock
Because of the shrinkage of the resin, you've got to go up like one, one and half percent. So I started a print now before the podcast. It'll be done and around two o'clock this morning. And then I will probably try get out of bed, probably fail, but I'll try and put another print on. And then tomorrow morning at like nine o'clock, they'll be done.
00:34:00
jamie peacock
I can put another print on and deliver to them in the afternoon.
00:34:04
Curt
Nice.
00:34:05
jamie peacock
So good thing I good thing i have two printers.
00:34:05
Curt
That's quick turnaround. Yeah, no doubt.
00:34:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, they've got a they've got a trade show coming up, so they want so on test units or something. i don't know. It's getting a bit frustrating. like This whole thing's dragging out.
00:34:17
Curt
Yeah.
00:34:18
jamie peacock
like I better get a notification at midnight to say that they paid me or I'm going to be rather grumpy because they it's now month end.
00:34:19
Curt
Speak.
00:34:25
jamie peacock
They should have paid today, last day of the month. They said they would pay today. I'm assuming it'll only clear at midnight. But yeah, it's a bit annoying.
00:34:33
Curt
Yeah. That makes it tough. Yeah, no doubt.
00:34:35
jamie peacock
Yeah, like hoping like how it clears. Otherwise they are going to have a very angry Jamie on their case and they might lose their privilege of having an account with me because at this point I've shelled out a shitload, had to pay accounts today and I'm like, um where the fuck's my money, guys?
00:34:54
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's just business, I guess.
00:34:54
Curt
yeah Yeah. And you know what the funny thing is?
00:34:57
jamie peacock
But Yeah.
00:34:57
Curt
The only people that have ever kind of i wouldn't I wouldn't say like hung me out to dry because that's that's not quite true.
00:35:02
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:02
Curt
But like the only people that ever stress me out like financially are corporate companies worth millions and millions of dollars. Like the average Joe who buys something, they never want... Like I've had so many people that can I just pay you now?
00:35:15
Curt
And like you can deliver whenever. It's like...
00:35:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:17
Curt
and And businesses are always like, oh, 30 days. Okay, well well, we'll process it in 30 days. It's like, no, that means I want to be paid in 30 days. Not like you start the process in 30 days.
00:35:24
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:35:26
Curt
Like, don't be, you're a million dollars. Like, wait, you don't have the bandwidth to support my $1,000 or $2,000 invoice or whatever it is.
00:35:29
jamie peacock
Exactly.
00:35:33
Curt
Like, yeah, it's silly.
00:35:34
jamie peacock
No, that's exactly it. Like these guys are getting on my nerves because they're meant to be doing really decent orders every month. And they're at not even a third of that, those order volumes that they're promising.
00:35:45
jamie peacock
And I'm kind of getting over being paid in promises at this point.
00:35:46
Curt
yeah
00:35:49
jamie peacock
Like stuff's been dragging out for six, seven months where they've just been placing small order, small order. And it's really beginning to stuff with our with our cash flow because I've been buying equipment and building our processes because no, no, we're going to be ordering lots. We're going to be ordering lots.
00:35:49
Curt
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:03
jamie peacock
And yeah, it's getting a bit getting a bit old now.
00:36:07
Curt
Yeah, no, I feel you.
00:36:08
jamie peacock
not
00:36:09
Curt
I feel you.
00:36:09
jamie peacock
But yeah, we'll see. They're best paid tonight or they yeah I'm going pitch up there tomorrow and just start taking my stock out of their storeroom. like You guys can go back to paying up front. It used to be 50% deposit on placement of order and 50% on delivery within a day of delivery.
00:36:24
jamie peacock
And then they wanted an account and now where's my money? Like you said, last day of the month. It is the last day of the month. But yeah, we we will see. That's just go
Running a Business in South Africa
00:36:34
jamie peacock
general struggles of businessing.
00:36:37
Curt
Yep. No, exactly. Everyone encounters that.
00:36:38
jamie peacock
Speaking of, yeah, it's just, ah it can be a bit ah but tedious to deal with.
00:36:47
Curt
Yeah, no doubt.
00:36:48
jamie peacock
But speaking of business things, I got some questions from my Q&A thingy that I put out.
00:36:49
Curt
No doubt.
00:36:56
Curt
Oh, right. I have a I think I have one too.
00:36:57
jamie peacock
Yes.
00:36:58
Curt
So yeah, yeah shoot, shoot with yours.
00:36:59
jamie peacock
Oh, cool. From NASB CNC. ah He was asking how long I've been running own shop. And that would be, This year would be, we're about six and a years in.
00:37:10
jamie peacock
and In 1st of November, it will be seven years that I've been doing JSpec engineering full-time. ah The first two years, I really just potted around. And then we had to be profitable all of a sudden.
00:37:22
jamie peacock
And then what are the struggles and benefits of running a shop in
00:37:22
Curt
Mm hmm.
00:37:26
jamie peacock
Well, we live in SA. Shipping anything is a total utter ship show. um
00:37:31
Curt
Right. Mm-hmm.
00:37:32
jamie peacock
Like we're learning now the pallet systems. We can make it cheaply here, but by the time we ship it, it gets silly because we're in the arse end of Africa. But one of the benefits is that labor is effectively free.
00:37:44
jamie peacock
ah We were discussing this and who was putting out a call? um Gimbal Automation put out a call for a machinist. And i was the machinist where i used to work. i used to run the wire cutter as well and was the head designer and was making like $6 an hour.
00:38:01
jamie peacock
And that's considered a good salary in South Africa in that industry. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely insane.
00:38:06
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:38:07
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's basically free here.
00:38:07
Curt
wow
00:38:08
jamie peacock
Now it's one of the issues we're having. We're making... We started to manufacture some monikers and I was chatting to the Freddie agency yeah and he was saying, yeah, it's a bit of a tough sell because you can pay a guy literally like $10, $12 for the day.
00:38:26
jamie peacock
He sits there with a cutoff Coke bottle and scoops your cooling tank out and you've created a job for the day. You don't really care. Like you just pay the guy for a couple days instead of buying a ah Freddie. Like it's a very tough sell in South Africa because our labor is effectively free.
00:38:42
Curt
Right, yeah. I can see that being, yeah.
00:38:43
jamie peacock
So yeah, it's, it's interesting living. Yeah. Let's put it that way. Like it's definitely got its pros. Like the cost of living is nothing compared to the rest of the world. Um, but yeah, like also I can't, I can't charge a hundred dollars an hour in my shop because I just won't get work because I'm competing against guys who are charging $25 an hour and they are considered expensive.
00:39:02
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:39:09
Curt
Yeah, that's wild. I mean, like you said, it you know it all scales, but it's still it's still interesting to hear.
00:39:10
jamie peacock
It's insane. Yeah. Yeah, it's very, yeah. It's like, I actually got an offer this week to buy JSpec Engineering, mostly because they want They're like, can keep doing what you're doing. Just do our work as well.
00:39:25
jamie peacock
Like, we'll buy you out. We'll throw another machine on your floor. Give us some equity in the business and do our work, please. And I'm like, nope. Don't want to be machining tool steal.
00:39:34
Curt
yeah Yeah, fair.
00:39:36
jamie peacock
Not on my machine, especially. Like I can go pick up and go pick up a couple of thousand dollars of work every, and go now and pick up a couple of thousand dollars of work from them. I just don't really, I'm not tooled up for it and I don't really want to be doing this.
00:39:48
Curt
Yeah, no, it makes sense.
00:39:49
jamie peacock
I like aluminum. If I scrap a part, I just make another one. Like material cost is negligible.
00:39:54
Curt
Yeah. and then also being able to, like said, drive your own show and what you want. That kind of is a benefit of well.
00:39:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:40:00
Curt
as Well, so but i mean
00:40:01
jamie peacock
No, exactly. Like I told him no again. he offers every few months. He tries to buy me out. I just laugh at them every time.
00:40:08
Curt
I mean, nice to have the offer, I suppose. it
00:40:11
jamie peacock
Yeah, but I don't want to work for them either.
00:40:11
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:13
jamie peacock
Like, that's not going to be, I did, I used to consult with them and yeah, it's a bit of a, bit of a shit show.
00:40:14
Curt
Yeah.
00:40:19
jamie peacock
Like, I think it's better now. The, so the company was started by two brothers and then a they, they, their dad, their mom, their mom and the one guy's stepdad or whatever, their family crap, they put in bucks to get the to get the business going.
00:40:38
jamie peacock
And then they sold off their shares to a family friend who came in and took over as CEO and like he he's got lots of experience running big companies and was like, okay, cool. What do we do here?
00:40:49
jamie peacock
Let's put it all on ah on a whiteboard. Okay, what is the actual profit margin on this? Nope, we don't do that anymore. We don't do this anymore. And they just niched right down to what they're good at.
00:40:59
Curt
Yeah. It's a good method.
00:41:00
jamie peacock
And they, like, their turnover's gone, their turnover, their turnover's gone down, but their profit's gone up. So they they're focusing on what they're doing, but, like, a lot of their, a lot of the stuff they were doing, they were making next to nothing on it.
00:41:18
jamie peacock
So, like, they they one of their sayings is, turnover is vanity, ah profit is sanity.
Maintaining Business Niche and Autonomy
00:41:25
jamie peacock
So they're chasing profit, not turnover. And that's, yeah, the correct way to do it, like,
00:41:28
Curt
Right.
00:41:31
Curt
Yeah, yeah, 100% sell less of expensive things.
00:41:32
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, yeah, well, I mean, I had a I've got a job, a repeat job that's come in now, think I did in January. And it's come in again. It's 100 landing gear components.
00:41:45
jamie peacock
And that job, I think the total maette material cost on that is like 12% of the invoice value. Like it's nothing. It's all just machining time. And it's not complicated parts.
00:41:53
Curt
Yeah.
00:41:54
jamie peacock
It's just there's 100 of them. So that's going to get set up and just run.
00:41:56
Curt
Nice.
00:41:58
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:41:59
Curt
Yeah, that's a nice that's a nice thing to have in the having the queue.
00:42:02
jamie peacock
It's going to take like three days to do all the work, but I mean, woohoo, three days. Like it's really, it's nice that I can just load stuff and let it, let it run.
00:42:07
Curt
Yeah.
00:42:12
Curt
Yeah, I know I had a few emails from people just being like, oh, you know, like how are the, you know, increasing material costs going to affect your product? it's like, you know what, my product is so little is based on material costs, like so much is just a time cost.
00:42:23
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:25
Curt
um So it's like, that's a nice place to be because you can absorb wild fluctuations of material and be like, yeah, it's not a big deal.
00:42:28
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:42:30
jamie peacock
Well, my biggest customer, they haven't had a price increase in like two years because the price of material can literally quadruple and it won't affect their price because it's literal cents worth of material that's going out in, well, in rands, but with dollars of machining attached to it.
00:42:30
Curt
Like, it's mostly over time.
00:42:42
Curt
Right, yeah.
00:42:51
jamie peacock
So ah it can just get absorbed and we've gotten in a lot better at making their parts. So... yeah we've just We've just eaten the the difference and we're actually making more than we've ever made on that job because I've just gotten really, really good at making it.
00:43:08
Curt
Nice. That's that's the key.
00:43:09
jamie peacock
Yeah. Well, yeah, that is that is the goal. luck Get good at the things you do.
00:43:13
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:16
Curt
Yeah. Yeah. No one wants to grind forever for nothing.
00:43:17
jamie peacock
That's that's the whole... Well, that's the whole point of, I know we discussed this a while ago, where it's like we want to niche in on what we do. we don't want to end up with 15 people and we want to just get really good at what we do.
Automation in Production Processes
00:43:31
Curt
hmm. Mm hmm.
00:43:31
jamie peacock
And that is so that is the actual goal. I don't want to have a bunch of staff that I have to deal with ever. Like that is not my idea of fun.
00:43:38
Curt
Yeah.
00:43:41
Curt
Yeah, yeah. No, I think that's both why me and you started these things is to avoid that whole, you know, element of work, but.
00:43:42
jamie peacock
so
00:43:46
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly. Get a, get a robot instead.
00:43:51
Curt
Oh yeah, so much so, so much so.
00:43:52
jamie peacock
Yeah. Get a robot and name him Robert. Robert the robot.
00:43:58
Curt
Rob the robot. Nice.
00:43:59
jamie peacock
Yeah. That's my plan. But yeah, like, um, I'm learning is better it's better to just build big fixtures and rather than go automation right now.
00:44:02
Curt
Yeah.
00:44:10
Curt
Yeah. No, ah automation is not.
00:44:11
jamie peacock
No.
00:44:12
Curt
It's just that same game I'm going to play. I got to do more night run stuff.
00:44:14
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:44:15
Curt
That's hopefully where your pallet system is going to come into play and just, yeah, get niche out in that thing, make efficiencies in that area. And yeah, that's...
00:44:23
jamie peacock
yeah can look at proper automation down the line
00:44:27
Curt
Yeah, totally. Yeah. Like if you have a pallet that you're hand loading and you have it dialed in enough where you're just putting a pallet in and out, that's a way easier thing to automate than an entire process that you have to start from.
00:44:36
jamie peacock
yeah no exactly no 100
00:44:36
Curt
Like get it all like aj's doing that if you listen to the taps and patience podcast he's basically treating himself like the robot right now which is the way to do it because you handle all the things that you're you're going to run into eventually and you get to do it without spending you know the hundred thousand dollars on a robot first like
00:44:40
jamie peacock
yes
00:44:44
jamie peacock
and hundred percent
00:44:50
jamie peacock
yeah, robots robots are silly expensive.
00:44:54
Curt
yeah i mean yeah yeah
00:44:54
jamie peacock
I've been looking even in China, they're expensive. Like, I've been shopping around a little bit. But we're not at the point where we need that yet.
00:45:05
Curt
Yeah, no, exactly.
00:45:06
jamie peacock
Yet being not operative word there.
00:45:07
Curt
Exactly.
00:45:08
jamie peacock
But yeah unfortunately, yet is Reliance on customers, not dilly-dallying with placing production orders. So we will see. They are releasing their product. As far as I know, they are releasing it tomorrow.
00:45:22
jamie peacock
And then it should be real real order quantities of their stuff.
00:45:22
Curt
Okay.
00:45:26
jamie peacock
Well, I'll actually
Audio Preferences and Recommendations
00:45:27
jamie peacock
recoup the cost of my Tumblr and the cost of my laser engraver that I bought for that job in November. And it's now finally going to market.
00:45:35
Curt
Oof.
00:45:37
Curt
Yeah, that's a, yeah, that makes it rough.
00:45:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, it's been a bit annoying.
00:45:42
jamie peacock
But yeah, you know, let me quickly thank our Patreon. There's only one of them that's on the shout out every week list. So that's Jade from Benchmark20. Thank you very much. um You can find our Patreon on Patreon and probably in the description below where you can throw in a couple dollars to support the show.
00:45:43
Curt
Yeah.
00:46:01
jamie peacock
And that will yeah go to supporting the show. And if the US still exists to going to INTS in 2026. ah But yeah, thank you to all three of our Patreons. At least we can still manage how many people are there.
00:46:12
Curt
Yeah, no,
00:46:14
jamie peacock
Hopefully not for long.
00:46:16
Curt
I appreciate it Appreciate you ton, a ton. um Oh, I speaking of which I have a, I have a question that I didn't get to.
00:46:19
jamie peacock
Yeah. Oh, yes, you had a question.
00:46:22
Curt
um
00:46:22
jamie peacock
you
00:46:23
Curt
So yeah, the real, ah no, don't and worry about this.
00:46:23
jamie peacock
I've been rambling.
00:46:26
Curt
The real penny pincher asked, what do you guys listen to when you work podcasts, audio books, music? ah So yes, for me, basically all three, depending on the day and what I'm doing. If I'm doing something like kind of,
00:46:38
Curt
memory intensive. I don't listen to anything, but then usually in the morning, I'll start off with ah like a podcast of something that's interesting, like one of the plethora of podcasts, like AJ, like ah our AJ and um oh my God, why am I spacing on his name?
00:46:51
jamie peacock
Harrison.
00:46:52
Curt
And AJ and Harrison, their podcast, I'll listen with intolerance. I'll listen to the BOM. I'll listen to lean built. I'll listen to thousands. There's thousands I listen to, not thousands.
00:47:04
Curt
There's tens I listen to. I'll listen to our podcast because I always learn more to listen to it twice. um
00:47:08
jamie peacock
Yeah, I'm the same.
00:47:09
Curt
So I'll go through that in the morning and then usually by the afternoon, my brain is kind of getting a little toasted. So then I flip over to like an audio book and I'll just listen audio books. I rarely listen to music. Maybe on a Friday, I'll listen to music ah if I'm feeling jazzed, but most of the time it's just audio books or podcasts. So a big sci-fi dork. So right now I'm going through this series of, I'll just open it because people love hearing about that kind of stuff.
00:47:31
Curt
ah The Expeditionary Force, that's like the latest one. I'm on like book 13 of that. So yeah, if you're a sci-fi nerd and you like like the Bobaverse and stuff like that, Expeditionary Force is a pretty good one.
00:47:43
Curt
And it's massive, so you never run out of it.
00:47:44
jamie peacock
um Okay.
00:47:45
Curt
Like there's each book is like, I don't know, 10 hours and there's like 15 and 16 of them now.
00:47:46
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:47:49
jamie peacock
a wow. Yeah, my wife gets really angry when people release books. Like, she won't start listening to a book series until the full series is out.
00:47:58
Curt
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:47:59
jamie peacock
but She does want to get left on a cliffhanger. But yeah, so I tend to listen to podcasts most of the time i do and music. I don't really do audiobooks at the moment. so um Haven't done audiobooks in a long time, actually.
00:48:11
jamie peacock
I think the last audiobook I did was like one of the Game of Thrones books. um And the last physical book I read was Seven Eves and that was when it came out.
00:48:20
Curt
Oh, that's a good one.
00:48:21
jamie peacock
Oh, wait, no, sorry. I have read ah i've read since that. I've read The World According to Clarkson. I used to read when I traveled. So used to have a tablet with the audiobook, oh, not audiobook, ah reading app, and then I would read on my tablet when I got on a plane.
00:48:33
jamie peacock
That way I could fall asleep easily.
00:48:33
Curt
um
00:48:36
jamie peacock
But yeah, that's...
00:48:37
Curt
Nice.
00:48:38
jamie peacock
Yeah, except when Seven Eves got really good, then I couldn't, I didn't want to sleep on the plane. I wanted to read my book. But yeah, tend to, um listen to pretty much everything you listed off there.
00:48:45
Curt
Yeah. but
00:48:48
jamie peacock
Also, continual improvements with the austere guys and lachkin no like, precision, like in precision.
00:48:54
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:48:56
jamie peacock
Yeah. Maybe like precision. don't know. I listened to them. Uh, I listened to no dumb questions by destined from smart everyday and, uh, Matt Whitman.
00:49:07
jamie peacock
And that is flipping brilliant. Like, it is one of the most entertaining podcasts because you've got Destin, who's really science, and you've got Matt, who's theology, and, yeah, they'll teach each other about each other's fields of expertise.
00:49:24
Curt
Yeah, that's a good one. and It's so varied. Like the topics just kind of swing every from super science to like, I listened to one on, I listened to one on folk sodas, like pops that are like a hundred years old.
00:49:27
jamie peacock
Yeah. It's all over the show. Yeah. All over the show. Yeah.
00:49:34
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:49:35
Curt
It was so interesting. Like I tried a bunch them because it's so cool.
00:49:36
jamie peacock
Yep. And then... Yeah, no, those are, I was doing something in the garden. and think was washing tarpaulins and i was listening to the episode with the crash at Crush where they crash two trains into each other and they had one of their barnacles and testicles inserts and I was literally laughing out loud.
00:49:51
Curt
Hmm.
00:49:56
jamie peacock
It was so brilliant.
00:49:59
Curt
Yeah.
00:50:00
jamie peacock
Like, yeah, they their stuff is really, really entertaining.
00:50:03
Curt
Yeah. With the ah plethora of books, if people are listening to this and you're machinist, um one book that is fantastic, The Perfectionists.
00:50:06
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:50:10
Curt
If you haven't listened to that and you're like at all in this trade, that's a great book. It's the whole history of precision from like the early, early like ship building days up to modern times.
00:50:20
Curt
And it explains all kinds of things. It's very interesting. That book was a, is a good listen.
00:50:24
jamie peacock
okay
00:50:25
Curt
And if you listen to the audio book, the reader is ah pleasing to listen to as well. So. Highly suggest that one.
00:50:29
jamie peacock
okay okay yeah i actually want to get everyone on my phone but it's yeah i'm being cheap and don't want to pay for it i'll pay for it for my wife already so i'm like can't i just steal hers but yeah it's really it's like all of ten dollars a month i may as well just pay for it and and have it it's yeah it
00:50:31
Curt
I have like 400 books I could suggest, but that's ah that's a good one.
00:50:50
Curt
That's been one of the best.
00:50:51
jamie peacock
yeah
00:50:52
Curt
Yeah, that's been the one of the best investments I've ever paid in myself is just audiobooks. It's just like I would never listen to them.
00:50:56
jamie peacock
Yeah, well, I mean, it's one of those things where you pay if you pay for Everent and it just makes it easier than pirating them. Like the same thing with Steam games.
00:51:06
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:51:06
jamie peacock
Like they made it easier to just buy the game than to pirate it. And that like Everent is like
00:51:10
Curt
Yep.
3D Printing and Tech Hobbies
00:51:11
jamie peacock
that.
00:51:11
jamie peacock
So I'll probably end up just getting it. But yeah, I don't know. I tend to do podcasts and then music if I run out of podcasts. Or if I don't feel like thinking, then like if I'm focusing on what I'm doing, then I'll i'll switch to music.
00:51:20
Curt
Yeah.
00:51:27
Curt
Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
00:51:28
jamie peacock
um kurt can you toggle your camera again for me you've been frozen again for like a month of sundays yeah i think it'll be fine in the actual podcast it's just
00:51:29
Curt
Cool. Oh, yeah, my Frozen.
00:51:37
Curt
Yeah, the audio hasn't cut out, um but there.
00:51:39
jamie peacock
no audio has been fine it's just yeah i think one of our internet probably my internet connection is in full potato mode so yeah you moved for a second and now you you're frozen in but that's fine we'll leave it like that but yeah then uh what other things were on oh there's only one other thing on my oh no there's two other things
00:51:47
Curt
I would.
00:51:51
Curt
I'll keep moving on camera.
00:51:58
jamie peacock
So I want clip or file my printer.
00:52:01
Curt
Why?
00:52:03
jamie peacock
um So that I can do filament changes mid print. The firmware that I have on there does not quite support it properly.
00:52:08
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:52:10
jamie peacock
And I'm like, why not update it? Like I have a backup of this firmware. I can always roll back to it. um ah The only thing that's different in my firmware is my extruder steps, which I need to take a note of before port over.
00:52:25
jamie peacock
But yeah I was thinking of going to Clipper just for shits and giggles. um Might be able to get the probing routine to be a little bit quicker as well because it's a bit slow right now. But yeah, I mean, again, it ain't broke, so don't fix it.
00:52:35
Curt
Yeah.
00:52:37
jamie peacock
But I think the backboard even has holes for a par 4. Like when I laser cut the backboard, I laser cut holes for the for the par 4 to go the Clipper route back then, and I just haven't bothered.
00:52:48
Curt
Yeah, I know I bought a board to support going to Clipper 2 and it's been sitting in a box for like a year. was like, I should do it, but I don't use it enough to make it worth my while yet.
00:52:53
jamie peacock
Yeah, my main board on there will support Clipper.
00:52:56
Curt
so
00:52:58
jamie peacock
just need to buy a par 4 for it. So I'll probably just pick up... I mean, he'll even do it on a par 3. I might just harass my neighbor for his old par 3 and use that.
00:53:09
jamie peacock
Because heah yeah he his whole Clipper setup on his end of 3KE to home assistant that tells him when it's finished and he can check all sorts of crap. I'm like, eh... Like, I don't really see the value in that, but yeah, I kind of want to get a bit more performance out of this printer.
00:53:09
Curt
Yeah, I went down the
00:53:25
jamie peacock
Not that I need it I just want it.
00:53:29
Curt
Yeah, i know. I've been doing deep dives on printers. I have no need for one, but like all your talk of them is making me look at FDM ones.
00:53:35
jamie peacock
yeah
00:53:35
Curt
I kind of want to get one. Honestly, if I'm being totally honest, I want to just yeah i just i want to build one.
00:53:37
jamie peacock
Yeah. They've gotten so good.
00:53:42
Curt
like I want to build a Voron just for fun. like I don't need it.
00:53:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:53:44
Curt
It's just a hobby. like I just enjoy it.
00:53:46
jamie peacock
Oh yeah, that's exactly it.
00:53:46
Curt
that i would like to do that, but I don't know. i don't know We'll see. i Let's keep kicking that cat down the road.
00:53:50
jamie peacock
yeah i would i mean that's yeah speaking of hobbies uh yeah we had robot combat this weekend and i managed to not make weight with my conveyor system and my robot but uh still to be pretty much i still managed to pretty much dominate everyone it was fun i lost one i lost one fight hang on yeah i lost one fight over the whole whole both tournaments i lost one fight
00:54:01
Curt
Oh no, so you weren't able to make children cry?
00:54:06
Curt
okay.
00:54:15
jamie peacock
And that was the final in the non-destructive.
00:54:16
Curt
Hmm.
00:54:18
jamie peacock
I drove myself into the pits.
00:54:19
Curt
Hmm.
00:54:20
jamie peacock
I ripped everyone else apart.
00:54:20
Curt
Oh, nice.
00:54:21
jamie peacock
I won destructive. I came first and second in the... Well, won both my fights in our qualifiers for destructive because we're only... um Hang on. There were lots of destructive robots. There were six...
00:54:34
jamie peacock
six destructive robots. I won all my fights. So I got to choose who I wanted to fight basically in the final. And I chose to go against and another destructive bot because why not put, put a brick shit house in with the destructive bot.
00:54:41
Curt
Mm-hmm.
00:54:49
jamie peacock
And then I ended up bullying him into the corner, flipping him over and then just scooting him around and then pushing him into the pit eventually. Because brick shit house is a four wheel drive block of 70, 75. um And then ah came third because I won the other match with Beta and I ripped the guy, I ripped his chicken head off of his robot because he's got, its name's Thundercluck.
00:55:08
jamie peacock
It's got a little chicken head lift arm thing and some titanium armor that I gave him that I could not get purchase on.
00:55:12
Curt
That's cool.
00:55:15
jamie peacock
I just grinding against him with my little aluminum weapon. um yeah And then I got beat by 11-year-old who I beat last time. So that's fair, I guess.
00:55:24
Curt
Oh, well, that's awesome.
00:55:26
jamie peacock
But yeah, new robots, it was yeah did okay. Didn't do as well as I want, but yeah, I guess good driving makes up for bad robot.
00:55:34
Curt
Fair.
00:55:34
jamie peacock
like i've I've probably got the most stick time in the league by like a factor of three because of all the events we've done. ah just We go to an event, I get three days of stick time. Every hour I run an exhibition match at stick time, like...
00:55:47
jamie peacock
ah yeah no external chance it's great but yeah anyway that was uh that was our weekend endeavors yeah
00:55:54
Curt
oh that's cool i know this weekend and i was it was all these batteries charging lipos it just reminded me that i haven't i haven't flown my little quad in like a year so um and now now my girl my girls are big enough that like
00:56:03
jamie peacock
yeah I think I'm think it's about the same yeah okay nice yeah
00:56:06
Curt
we go to the park in the summer and like, I have two, I have two FPV goggle sets. So like she can wear one and I can wear one and I can fly her around and like, she's going to get such a kick out of this. So yeah, I think I'm going put a, say talking about steam.
00:56:17
Curt
I I'm going download the like DRL sim again on my computer and just practice flying at night a little bit again.
00:56:20
jamie peacock
Oh, yeah.
00:56:23
Curt
Cause I was, my fingers are probably rusty. haven't flown in a long and those little quads are fast.
00:56:25
jamie peacock
Dude, that comes straight back. It comes straight back.
00:56:29
Curt
I bet. Yeah.
00:56:30
jamie peacock
I haven't flown.
00:56:30
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:31
jamie peacock
My quad's sitting on the table there somewhere. I don't think I've flown it in over a year. Since Titan's had my remotes, I haven't flown because he's got my old remote that that thing's set up on. So I must go grab my remote from him and then rip it around again.
00:56:43
jamie peacock
Like the pack is finished.
00:56:45
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:46
jamie peacock
Like I fly for two minutes and land and the thing's beeping because the packs are now like four years old and they don't get storage charged.
00:56:52
Curt
Right.
00:56:53
jamie peacock
They get charged and left.
00:56:56
jamie peacock
um
00:56:56
Curt
Oh, okay.
00:56:56
Curt
Yeah.
00:56:57
jamie peacock
Yeah, but yeah, I can buy more batteries, but I don't want to. I'm being cheap. I actually went to buy batteries for, because I want to replace the batteries in my combat robots. The Oaks in the League bought up all the stock in the country.
00:57:11
jamie peacock
Because it's not a common battery. It's like a 200 or 300 milliamp 2-cell. Everyone in the League is running them except me. I'm running my old batteries that I've had for my gliders. And I went to buy batteries, and there's no stock anywhere.
00:57:23
jamie peacock
They've literally bought everything. Which is good. It means the League's growing, but yeah, a bit annoying.
00:57:28
Curt
yeah that's the one hobby I was talking to my wife and I was like that's the one hobby that's nice because as I stay out of it everything just gets cheaper like great batteries that I spent a hundred dollars on you know two years three years ago are now like thirty dollars because like the technology just grows so fast
00:57:43
jamie peacock
Yeah. But i think there I think there's also been a bit of a a lot of people leaving it, especially here.
00:57:51
Curt
hmm
00:57:52
jamie peacock
that It happened in like 2016, 2017, where every had a helicopter was flying, doing irresponsible things, and then one by one they just dropped off. And it's only the hardcore guys that are left.
00:58:04
jamie peacock
And I think there's... Yeah, um there's still new stuff coming out, but I don't think the demand is there anymore. So they're kind of dropping prices because they can't sell it at the high prices anymore.
00:58:05
Curt
Yeah.
00:58:16
Curt
That's actually a good point because I used to see a lot of little like, like tons of people buy DJI or DJI little drones and just, you know, little point camera ship kind of deals.
00:58:20
jamie peacock
Yeah.
00:58:24
Curt
And I used to see a few of those flying around and then they just kind of went ghost. So I think people probably were like, oh, this is fun. And now I'm bored. So it's like, well, good.
00:58:31
jamie peacock
Yeah, exactly.
00:58:31
Curt
More more airspace for me. Yeah.
00:58:33
jamie peacock
Exactly. Like, I mean, yeah, if we go back on the YouTube, on my YouTube channel, I've been flipped these videos from 2012 of flying FPV, like a long time ago.
00:58:42
Curt
Yep. Yep.
00:58:45
jamie peacock
And like, we, we started off the race league in South Africa.
00:58:46
Curt
Yeah, man. and
00:58:49
jamie peacock
Like, uh, James and I were, we built minis when blackouts and the quad. So the blackout mini and the quad mini were the two minis available.
00:58:55
Curt
Yep.
00:58:58
Curt
Oh, yeah.
00:58:58
jamie peacock
And then we're like, oh, yeah no, we're not we're not going to go to market.
00:58:59
Curt
Oh, yeah. No.
00:59:01
jamie peacock
The market's going to be flooded. We were very wrong. It exploded.
00:59:06
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:06
jamie peacock
Like, I actually have a video flying ma my little five-inch quad with a GoPro on the top at like 90% throttle to hover because ah you couldn't buy motors. Like, I was running Hobby King Park Flyer motors that I found that looked okay.
00:59:20
jamie peacock
He was running the little Tiger Like, yeah, it's insane how far that stuff has come.
00:59:26
Curt
No kidding. I know. I know the same thing.
00:59:27
jamie peacock
Yeah, I mean...
00:59:28
Curt
My first, first little quads and tries could like get off the ground and then lift a GoPro and that was about it.
00:59:28
jamie peacock
yeah
00:59:33
Curt
And now like my little quad has like horsepower, literal horsepowers worth of power, like thousands and thousands of Watts.
00:59:36
jamie peacock
yeah it's insane yeah no it's it's absolutely insane like the amount of power these little guys have nowadays but i mean even the battery technology has come so far but yeah like i was looking i was actually looking the other day it looks like rc explorer fell off the face of the earth
00:59:40
Curt
It's like, that's nuts.
00:59:47
Curt
Yeah.
00:59:50
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:57
Curt
I know, I saw him pop in once in a while, and then I haven't... Yeah, he's kind of gone ghost, but I hope he's well.
00:59:59
jamie peacock
yeah i know he was working with uh with gaco whatever or jaco whatever um and then he was working with hack and mod um the guy who started flight test uh chad he started another channel called hack and mod and he popped up there a few times but he seems to have pretty much dropped off the face of the earth at this point
01:00:04
Curt
Yep.
01:00:10
Curt
Hmm.
01:00:13
Curt
Hmm.
01:00:22
Curt
Yeah, it what it is.
01:00:23
jamie peacock
yeah
Culinary Interests and Influences
01:00:24
jamie peacock
david windowsill but are back in the the good old days of flight flight test
01:00:26
Curt
Finderstahl.
01:00:31
jamie peacock
Oh, So, what...
01:00:32
Curt
cool man
01:00:35
jamie peacock
What? From the... Oh, so I'm reading the document here. Okay, so well let's let's start wrapping up here.
01:00:42
Curt
yeah sounds good uh so my search history this week besides all the post edits and learning about fusion because fusion has a new method now where you like set up the machine and that kind of overrides your post so that's kind of a good way to do it i don't i'm i'm doing it with raw post edits um so a bunch of stuff on that um
01:00:43
jamie peacock
What is in your search history this week?
01:01:02
Curt
But the interesting stuff is I've been searching up ah like ramen noodle recipes.
01:01:03
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:07
Curt
That's like i've I've got like down the deep rabbit hole for that because, yeah, everybody, every poor college kid obviously gets addicted to her ramen noodles.
01:01:10
jamie peacock
Oh, lovely.
01:01:15
Curt
And then I just want to make better and better recipes.
01:01:17
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:18
Curt
So anyways, I've been looking up like a bunch of like, what is it? ahhaw Uncle. Oh, what's his name? Uncle. can't remember now.
01:01:24
jamie peacock
Uncle Roger.
01:01:26
Curt
Uncle Roger. Some Uncle Roger videos and a great, great channel.
01:01:27
jamie peacock
Uncle Roger, yeah. ah have you Have you watched Joshua Wiseman?
01:01:34
Curt
Don't believe so.
01:01:34
jamie peacock
on YouTube.
01:01:34
Curt
I don't believe so.
01:01:35
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:01:36
Curt
No.
01:01:36
jamie peacock
Oh, not. wo I apologize in advance.
01:01:40
jamie peacock
We will definitely put a link for that in the show notes because, uh, yeah, Danica and I watch him. Joshua Wassman link. Danica will make sure there's a ah link for that.
01:01:40
Curt
Oh.
01:01:52
jamie peacock
Dude, that Oaks recipes are like next level.
01:01:56
jamie peacock
We do his orange chicken regularly.
01:01:56
Curt
Cool.
01:01:56
Curt
Okay.
01:01:58
jamie peacock
um Yeah, I actually started a new channel, a recipes channel, because his channel's kind of changed what it's doing over time. It's now more like, what's the best fast food in America? What's the best this?
01:02:09
jamie peacock
Less cooking. And yeah, i started a recipes channel. And dude, all his recipes are great. Like, I've actually got both of his cookbooks.
01:02:15
Curt
Oh, sick. Oh, cool.
01:02:17
jamie peacock
I've got his first one, and then the second one, texture over taste, where the cookbook is divided up by texture.
01:02:23
Curt
Cool.
01:02:24
jamie peacock
which is a very interesting way to do it. Like, no dude, his recipes are great. Like, whew, they are some of the best recipes.
01:02:28
Curt
Okay. I'll look it up. I'll look it up.
01:02:29
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, we'll definitely put a link in then ah in the show notes for that.
01:02:30
Curt
I i do like that.
01:02:34
jamie peacock
He's also done some ramen stuff.
01:02:34
Curt
Sick.
01:02:34
Curt
Cool. Yeah, I like that. I like all variants, the cheapest, the expensive. I'm in for all of it. I love that stuff.
01:02:43
jamie peacock
Yeah.
Workshop Updates and Future Plans
01:02:44
Curt
So, yeah, and that's that's basically been the bulk of it. How about you? What have you been <unk> been looking up?
01:02:48
jamie peacock
um i've been googling suzuki super carries uh nissan magnate stupidest name ever the magnate move so i've been looking at cars and buckies and things looking up milanke nanos because they are amazingly easy to program you just need to know what setting you want to change uh and then also tunes
01:02:56
Curt
Oh,
01:03:02
Curt
ah yeah.
01:03:09
Curt
Yep.
01:03:10
jamie peacock
i try to buy set of also tunes the the can headphone wireless ones that nice nice workshop headphones I cannot buy them in South Africa. Amazon will not ship them to me.
01:03:20
Curt
Oh, really?
01:03:22
jamie peacock
Isotunes will not ship them from to me. Amazon.ca will not ship them to me. Amazon.uk will not ship them to me. Amazon.de will not ship them to me.
01:03:31
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:32
jamie peacock
And on that, on their websites, I had put my email address in. So I've gotten three emails a day telling me I can get discount, come back and buy the thing. I'm like, I cannot buy it. Go away now.
01:03:42
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:43
jamie peacock
Yeah, it was a little bit infuriating, but I think I found a pair of not aso tunes of They had a funny name. I found them on AliExpress.
01:03:53
jamie peacock
I just thought, let me look on there, see what they're coming at.
01:03:54
Curt
Hmm.
01:03:57
jamie peacock
Oh, they're Zohan. Hearing Protection Bluetooth Headphone Earmuff 5.0 Headphone Safety.
01:04:04
Curt
Hmm.
01:04:04
jamie peacock
like I love their names. um Yeah, so I've been looking for those. And then, yeah, Melanke Nanos are amazing. You set a switch on channel 5, and you power on the Melanke, wait five seconds, power your remote on, wait for it you just toggle channel 5, the number of times you want to change the setting.
01:04:20
jamie peacock
So it's like setting 5, you want invert, you go ding, ding, ding, five times, it flashes five times, so changes.
01:04:21
Curt
nice
01:04:26
Curt
nice that's cool better than the throttle
01:04:26
jamie peacock
It's frigging great. But yeah, and then discovered that car dealerships aren't open on a Sunday. I'm like... What the hell? But anyway, yeah. I was a bit infuriated.
01:04:37
jamie peacock
Because I wanted to go look at cars yesterday and I couldn't.
01:04:41
Curt
Fair, fair, fair. Cool. man That's not like fun things.
01:04:45
jamie peacock
But yeah, anyway. So where can people find your your things?
01:04:51
Curt
ah You can find my wares at confoundermachine.com. I am going to do the Canadian version release of the pen along with a bunch of like regular releases for the entire world. The first batch is going to go to Canadian addresses. I still haven't figured that out. So a lot of people have messaged me saying how I'm going to do that. I think I'm going to open up a new lottery for that. I don't know exactly know yet. um I know there's a lot of demands. so That's always reassuring. And there's also demand internationally. Like everyone was saying like, hey, I'll totally support you for that. yeah.
01:05:16
Curt
I'm figuring it out. I will have all the information. If you jump on my site under the contact page, there's a newsletter. I send out all my information that way so you can stay in the loop. And ill then i'll probably update all the socials when I can. So that's where you can find information about me.
01:05:29
Curt
How about you, Jamie?
01:05:31
jamie peacock
ah So yeah, you can find information on our website, jspeceng.com. There's a section for the Anchor Point, which is getting updates somewhat regularly at this point, because we are going to start putting technical information up there, ah leading up to the release at the end of, well,
01:05:47
jamie peacock
We're in the new month by the time this airs. So this month, end of the month, we're planning on having some units available. The plan is for 10 units. We will see. ah We are making a few more, so there might be a little bit of extra.
01:05:58
jamie peacock
um And there's also the framework utility knife and some t-shirts and merch for the podcast and for Jspec Engineering available on that, on the web store there. um Yeah, speaking of the, oh, fancy Kurtz.
01:06:12
jamie peacock
That looks rather spiffy with the zipper.
01:06:13
Curt
finally have it that's nice yeah
01:06:15
jamie peacock
Yeah, nice. Kurt's wearing one of the lone machinist's hoodies. um Yeah, the the Anchor Point, we're going to be doing two we're goingnna be releasing two versions of it. So there's the Anchor Point starter kit, and then there'll be the base only.
01:06:28
jamie peacock
So for people who want to buy a second base to make a mooring point, because the files for the mooring point base will be available. The idea is you make your own to suit your machine.
01:06:39
jamie peacock
ah We'll also offer them, but i mean shipping around shipping a couple of kilos of aluminum around the world is not a cheap endeavor. so we're going to encourage guys to make their own bases obviously we'll sp supply the CAD files as so yeah we'll have the option to buy with the pneumatics kits and without so that way you don't have to buy two pneumatics kits because you're only going to need one because it's all internally ported now because I got fancy and built all that stuff in so yeah what are you what are you up to today Kurt
01:07:06
Curt
Today, as soon as the recording stops, I'm going to start running the machine again, finishing all the fourth axis work on the little Kurt, which is doing a fantastic job. I am going to jump on the big mill and finish doing the pocket clips because now I've switched everything to pen styles.
01:07:21
Curt
i I cut a bunch of old style pocket clips. I got to update them. So I'll run that. Have to run some new code on that. Do some soft jaws. Mill that little beaver on the end caps. That's all going to go on the big sile.
01:07:32
Curt
And then I'll probably run the lathe machining some thumbs up. Just a bunch of production. Just a whole whack-a-do of production until I run out of time.
01:07:37
jamie peacock
Okay. Did you get your slitting saw?
01:07:42
Curt
ah No, I didn't get the slitting saw, but that's that's down the line. I'll keep kicking that can down the line.
01:07:45
jamie peacock
have you You haven't ordered it yet. Okay.
01:07:48
jamie peacock
No, it's fine. I wasn't sure if you had ordered it.
01:07:48
Curt
No, I'm just...
01:07:50
Curt
No, not yet. No, it's it's spendy, so I'm just going to sit on it for a little bit and um I'll tackle that soon.
01:07:52
jamie peacock
Okay.
01:07:55
jamie peacock
Yeah, ah ordered a new face mall, which I'm very, it looks like it's um a positive rake. So I'm very keen to see how it performs.
01:08:06
jamie peacock
It's listed as a high feed, which it really shouldn't be. I
01:08:10
Curt
I hate face mail.
01:08:11
jamie peacock
i actually have one. it It uses the square inserts at 45 degrees. And it's technically
01:08:16
Curt
Oh, OK.
Enhancing Production Efficiency
01:08:17
jamie peacock
classified as as a high feed because it forces all the stuff up your in-axis with the spindle.
01:08:23
Curt
right
01:08:24
jamie peacock
Yeah, so in theory, it is one. It uses a WNMU insert.
01:08:33
Curt
Oh, yeah, that old thing.
01:08:33
jamie peacock
So it's ah it's a it's like a WNMG. It's funny shaped. It's like a triangle, but with funny sides.
01:08:44
jamie peacock
ah Anyway, looks fancy.
01:08:45
Curt
Trigon, yeah.
01:08:45
jamie peacock
but We'll see. I'm kind of looking for one that has a less cutting forces because I want to use it to face the bottom of the anchor points. So I threw one of those in the cart, so we'll see when that arrives, how that works.
01:08:58
jamie peacock
But yeah, I need to be a useful human tomorrow. I want to quickly finish off that that manifold. And then I think I'm going send Danica to go pick up some steel because I need to make some tool steel bits and bobs quickly for a customer because he is rapidly running out of stock that I haven't assembled yet.
01:09:16
jamie peacock
So sales have been down on the one product we make for him. And I've had these gearboxes here since December. And now he's literally sold five of the things in a week.
01:09:27
jamie peacock
We've got another 10 on order. I'm going to get through machining all the steel for that. I'm literally just going to make 20 of everything, put it on the shelf. And when he needs again, we just have to wait for gearboxes and then we can assemble.
01:09:40
Curt
Nice.
01:09:41
jamie peacock
But yeah, I want to get that.
01:09:41
Curt
Nice.
01:09:42
jamie peacock
i need to get the cooling manifold, then that done, and then run that other aluminum job. We're going to make a hundred of everything of two components. So I'm waiting on some drills and some NMLs for that. Just restocking. I have stock. I just want to make sure i don't run out halfway through the job but if something goes awry.
01:09:58
Curt
Yeah, fair. Sounds like a busy week.
01:09:59
jamie peacock
Toolbreak detect. Toolbreak detect is going to be useful this week.
01:10:03
Curt
Oh yeah, I'll have pick your brain on that later. I've been struggling with that, so ah going to talk.
01:10:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, I will... Oh, what are you trying to measure on tool break detection? Because I got lazy and mine just measures is the tool within comma one of what it was. That's all I care about.
01:10:15
Curt
Oh, okay. Well, maybe I'll just look at your macro.
01:10:16
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:10:17
Curt
Do you write it as a macro?
01:10:18
jamie peacock
I wrote sub-program.
01:10:21
Curt
Okay, okay.
01:10:22
jamie peacock
Yeah, so I wrote a sub-program called TBD and in my program, I use a comment, I pass through TBD and then I just uncomment it and then it will...
01:10:35
jamie peacock
ah ah My subroutine tills the machine, i think I'll tell it to go up, wrap it over to, changes coordinate sets, wrap it over comes down to like five mil above, then we'll probe the length of the tool, go back up and then change back.
01:10:44
Curt
Yeah.
01:10:47
Curt
Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:51
jamie peacock
It won't change back to whatever coordinate I was on, but it'll change back to like G54. Just so I know if I run that, I'm back at G54. If I'm running G57 or something, the program calls it like five lines further. So it doesn't really matter.
01:11:04
Curt
Okay, I got you. Okay, cool.
01:11:06
jamie peacock
Yeah, but that way it's super quick, especially at 100% rapids. It's truly terrifying.
01:11:09
Curt
Yeah.
01:11:11
jamie peacock
But yeah, then I use the, so it it comes down 10 miles above, then it runs the standard Siemens tool brake detect macro or tool brake detect function.
01:11:12
Curt
Cool.
01:11:18
Curt
Nice.
01:11:19
jamie peacock
Yeah, because their measure functions are pretty pretty robust.
01:11:24
Curt
Yeah, I don't even know if mine has this. i'm sure I'm sure it does, but I don't have like, I've never messed with Toolbrake Detect.
01:11:27
jamie peacock
It should.
01:11:29
Curt
I've obviously done tool like calibration to length, but never Toolbrake Detect.
01:11:32
jamie peacock
You've got order automatic tool measurements in the menu, hey?
01:11:36
Curt
Correct. Yeah.
01:11:37
jamie peacock
Yeah, then ah you go if you get stuck, just give me a shout and we'll run through it.
01:11:38
Curt
So.
01:11:42
jamie peacock
It's literally you go, you're in the program and you say add tool measurement or something. It's super, super simple.
01:11:48
jamie peacock
It's like three button presses.
01:11:48
Curt
Okay.
01:11:49
Curt
i I can't do anything anyways because my tool sensor is now just to like a little ah little block of paperweight. so But once that gets changed out, because it's sticking, so it's just not repeatable.
01:11:57
jamie peacock
Oh.
01:11:59
jamie peacock
Yeah.
01:11:59
jamie peacock
Okay, I know. Not with the risk.
01:12:00
Curt
But think that will be...
01:12:03
Curt
No, that'll be solved at some point. So I'm not too concerned.
01:12:04
jamie peacock
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll we'll see what happens with that when it ever arrives.
01:12:06
Curt
cook Cool, cool, cool.
01:12:10
Curt
Yeah, I'll pick your brain then for sure. Thank you.
01:12:12
jamie peacock
Yeah, no, that's fine. But yeah, honornna soup I'm lazy and just made it do the bare minimum of what it needs to do. Like I don't do any tool diameter measurements or anything.
01:12:21
Curt
Yeah. For what I'm using it for, I just, yeah.
01:12:22
jamie peacock
Not good. Yeah, you just want to know that it's still there.
01:12:26
Curt
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:27
jamie peacock
That's what I'm using for, making sure the three mil is there, the two mil is there, and that my...
01:12:27
Curt
You're
01:12:30
jamie peacock
I don't even check the last tool. Yeah.
01:12:33
Curt
right. Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:33
jamie peacock
If the other two haven't broken, that's not going break. It's
Episode Conclusion and Audience Engagement
01:12:37
jamie peacock
made like 300 parts already or something stupid. um
01:12:40
Curt
Yeah.
01:12:41
jamie peacock
So I might add TBD now just in case. But yeah the the peace of mind of knowing I can just hit go and come back in an hour to there being 20 parts in the back of my machine is great.
01:12:51
Curt
Totally. Yeah, absolutely.
01:12:52
jamie peacock
No, it's worth it. But yeah, and okay, cool. let's ah Let's wrap it up there. a little bit of a, well, a few minutes shorter than normal, but that's fine.
01:12:59
Curt
so Sounds terrific. sounds terrific
01:13:03
jamie peacock
So yeah, thank you everybody for listening. It is greatly appreciated. If you're on YouTube, you can find us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Any of the other podcast players, as far as I know.
01:13:14
jamie peacock
And if you're on one of those, you can find us on YouTube. um Yeah, thank you for listening. Please ah give us a like, subscribe and or review, depending on which platform you're on. And we will see you next week.
01:13:28
Curt
Thank you. and Take care all.