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Crooked River Cast Show 25
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- "Cleveland” father detained by ICE.
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction
00:00:02
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Crooked Rivercast. I am Robert, your host, and joining me every week is my friend Tom to help us keep track and stay in front of some of what is going on in Northeast Ohio.
00:00:16
Speaker
This is show 25, woohoo! 25 shows, September 7th, 2025. It's another week, it's another show, so let's go.
Travel Experiences and Airline Policies
00:00:27
Speaker
In the morning, Tom.
00:00:29
Speaker
Robert, welcome home. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, for all those out there in podcast land, I had a week of travel. week of travel. and Was it fun?
00:00:41
Speaker
Generally speaking, it was. But getting there and getting back, you know, always kind of a... Could always be an adventure. You flew, right? I did fly. and flat We flew Delta, which I've never flown Delta before, surprisingly enough.
00:00:55
Speaker
but I heard there's some people that don't fly anything but... And I could see why, actually. Cool. They seemed just a little different than the other maybe Frontiers or the Uniteds and stuff like that. I think the attitude seemed to be different. Their boarding process was very smooth. And they had one thing that I love, which are what they call comfort plus seats.
00:01:20
Speaker
A little extra leg room? Yes. So most of the, we had, unfortunately, the only problem was going from Cleveland to Jacksonville is where we had to fly into. was no direct flights out of Cleveland, which is wonderful to fly for an hour, land, to fly again for 45 minutes and land.
00:01:37
Speaker
Ooh. Yeah. It's like literally hour, 15, hour and 20 minutes from Cleveland to Atlanta. And then from Atlanta to Jacksonville is like 45 minutes airtime, airtime. Right. That's always like, ah, but yeah,
00:01:50
Speaker
Comfort plus. So most of the like ah planes we had, we were we weren't first class. We were first class adjacent, which means we were the very next seat behind first class because they still have a first class in Delta.
00:02:02
Speaker
They actually have they have the first class and then the first, I would say six or eight rows behind first class are probably four or five and extra inches of leg room.
00:02:13
Speaker
Oh, no kidding. Yeah, they actually set the plane up this way. I didn't notice this until the the last plane where... We were in the last row of the Comfort Plus, they call them. And when I look back, was like, holy cow, that's like but like four or five inches.
00:02:25
Speaker
Oh, they must have lost six seats doing this. What would they do? Yeah, they trust they charge you more. Charge you like 75 bucks more for the seat. Yeah, well, you tell people. It's well worth it, yes. yeah It's still not quite great because, you know, he's still sitting for two hours. But one thing that it may not have...
00:02:46
Speaker
It may not have been designed for. It's designed for longer people, not necessarily wider people. Oh, yeah. Right. And I've never experienced this before. I've always like my, one of my, sorry, sorry people. One of my worst fears on a plane is when I'm, when I'm in, I know I never take the middle seat.
00:03:04
Speaker
I'm waiting for one day again on a plane and somebody very large tries to squeeze in next to me. I didn't have that this time, but I did have the two seats in front and and the next row.
00:03:15
Speaker
I noticed this very large woman who got on the plane and I'm like, wow, hope she has two seats. You know, the messed up thing is if you had a bag that was five pounds over, you'd have to pay.
00:03:29
Speaker
Or a bag that's too big. Pardon of me? Yeah. Or bag that's too big. Exactly. The big, the too big thing is fine, but the extra five pounds is like, wait a
Lottery and Financial Mismanagement
00:03:40
Speaker
minute.
00:03:42
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if you go over 50 pounds, they charge you with an extra fee. i mean, they charge you to check a bag to begin with. Right. So I'm watching her get on and try to get on the plane, and she takes the aisle seat.
00:03:57
Speaker
um Makes sense. And spills into the aisle. It does make sense, except if remember when you when they run that drink cart, it takes the entire aisle. i mean you i mean, there's maybe an inch on each side.
00:04:10
Speaker
of the aisle between the, of the seats between the, you know, the drink cart in the, in your armrest on plane. And she was spilled over. She was, um I didn't measure it of course, but it was at least three to four or five inches o into the aisle.
00:04:24
Speaker
On top of that, there was a less, a woman that was not quite as large, but still spilling over a little bit into the aisle directly across from her.
00:04:34
Speaker
So I said, I'm like, what are they going to do? but are they going to do? I was on the plane with my wife, but I had a friend and a customer that was also on the plane. He was actually but more forward than us.
00:04:45
Speaker
He got first class because he's big time. But no, he ah flies a lot, so he gets a lot of points. And took a picture and sent him. you know We're waiting for wait the taxi. I said, how am going to get my Coke?
00:04:59
Speaker
How's a drink cart going to get down? And he brought up a very good counterpoint to that. He just texted back, evacuation? question mark Well, where were the doors?
00:05:10
Speaker
Yes, that's what I said. I'm going back. I know the doors are behind me now. I just know that because. It's like an hourglass. Yeah.
00:05:20
Speaker
It is. You got to sneak. So as everybody's walking on a plane, they're all like, oops, sorry. Oops, sorry. Oops, sorry. And then as they walked past me, I was like two, three seats back. They're all mumbled to themselves.
00:05:32
Speaker
And usually in a couple different languages, like, oh my gosh. So I'm interested in what they're going to do. What they going to do with these, this woman? And actually the there's a woman across from her. And I actually looked over to the left of me and the these seats to the left of me and the other across the aisle were completely empty, which you rarely see in planes anymore.
00:05:52
Speaker
You rarely see any more than one or two empty seats, let alone a whole row. They really packed those planes. Well, what they ended up doing was, first of all, the stewardess took took a very of a lot of precaution to sneak the belt extension to her.
00:06:10
Speaker
As though not to embarrass her. Because. She's already done that. yeah was going to say, because no one can notice that she's and four inches spilling over. And that's only a quarter of her thigh that was spilling over into the aisle.
00:06:23
Speaker
Sorry, I'm not trying to fat shame. It's like, what do you. No, no, no, no, no. We need to fat shame. like i'm Yeah, you're right. and I'm sorry. That's kind of, you're right. that's kind of That was kind of my point to this whole thing is she nonchalantly and snuck the ah extension to her not to shame her, which, well, to your point, thank you for correcting me.
00:06:46
Speaker
Yes, we need more shame because one of the reasons she might be so big is because no one's ever said, hey, ah how about put the fork down? Just put it down.
00:06:57
Speaker
Take a walk. Put the fork down.
00:07:03
Speaker
So what what happened? They allowed them to move to other seats that were empty. Of course. and okay So that's just, which is fine, ah guess. Yeah. What would you have done if the plane was full?
00:07:16
Speaker
What they had done. Because you've seen videos of people like freaking out because the airlines, you you have somebody in the middle seat who the aisle person is spilling over into their seat.
00:07:27
Speaker
And the airlines are just like, yeah, deal with it. Like, no you you should buy two seats. That's really what they used to do. They used to make you buy two seats. They did? Yeah.
00:07:38
Speaker
Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. If you could, if there was another seat available, they would make you buy another seat or or do you have to leave plane. Right. I mean, this was probably many years ago, but now you are. You are spending, i mean, the plot the airline's spending more on gas, I would think.
00:07:52
Speaker
Yeah. And they're making other customers uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. So that was pretty fun to watch. ah They're slowing down my drink. Yeah. You know, the drink well, the the good thing is the drink cart was able to get up and down the aisle.
00:08:07
Speaker
Yeah. I was happy about that at least. So, you know, again, if you get kicked off the plane enough times, maybe ah maybe you'll take a walk or two.
00:08:20
Speaker
in And I'm not sure about you, Tom, but not even get one winning Powerball number in my ticket. I'm not even sure what our tickets.
00:08:31
Speaker
I had to buy one. I was leaving the airport and my friend bought one. was well, now I have to buy one because if you win or you know, so I bought, you know, i spent 10 bucks and didn't get one number. So that just reinforces why don't play.
00:08:45
Speaker
But there is a couple winners I hear. Oh, was there? I heard quickly this morning somewhere, Minnesota or Missouri, I think maybe, and Texas. Oh, okay.
00:08:56
Speaker
As usual, there'll be like 20 winners and they'll only get like you know, like 20 or 30 million, that's it. I can live on that. And as it just so you, ah everybody should really keep track of these people and come back in five years, they're all going to be bankrupt.
00:09:13
Speaker
Virtually every single one of them. It doesn't happen as much as often anymore. No, people have kind of figured it out. Not everybody, but... Not everybody. I think the last person, I don't know if it was a billion, but it was way up there, somebody in California.
00:09:31
Speaker
And boy, he went bankrupt to like five years or something like that. He just bought a bunch of houses that were like... $30, $40 million a piece, and I guess he didn't realize how much it costs to maintain all of this.
00:09:46
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. yeah A house like that? The taxes, let alone ah maintaining, you know? i mean, I would think those were like $20,000, $30,000 month. ah Just in taxes, let alone having a crew
Immigration and Media Coverage
00:10:00
Speaker
there taking care of your property.
00:10:03
Speaker
Just the landscaping alone. Yeah. It's crazy. It's got to be $10,000 a month on a house that big. you know I mean, you got to have two or three people, right? I bet your property is and stuff, you know, all that. No, I mean, well, I just saw, ah you know, they did a, there was a special on one of the, um that's subscription-based type of things.
00:10:25
Speaker
And it might have been on YouTube, actually. But anyways, yeah, the properties weren't, you know, they were, At least a few acres, if not more. But they're usually elaborate.
00:10:37
Speaker
Like the landscaping is very, you know, you've got $20 million dollars house. You have very a very pretty landscaping and all that. That takes lot of time. This wasn't a row of Abravitin. No. this This was like, yeah, there there was a lot of maintenance there.
00:10:50
Speaker
There's a lot of shapes they like to cut in and twist all this. and But yeah, that's the heating, just the general maintenance, things that break in a $30 million house. It's got to be a lot.
00:11:02
Speaker
but even if you don't Even if you're not living there full-time, you still need a full-time or at least a partial crew to go in there full-time. You need a house sitters, and they they can be expensive, house sitters.
00:11:13
Speaker
yeah
00:11:15
Speaker
Yeah, so no no lottery for us. where I am a lottery loser, just like most out there. Lottery loser. Yeah. Well, it's okay. It's good chance. It was too much money, as my father puts it.
00:11:29
Speaker
What does that mean? i don't know. i don't I really don't know what he means by that. It was too much money. He's like, I could buy Parma. Oh, yeah. Maybe two times over.
00:11:41
Speaker
I'm like sitting there going, i don't know if I would buy Parma. Bad investment. Yeah, and not a good one. Yeah, I don't know what he means about it. I wouldn't think it's too much money because it attracts way more people, so your odds go down. That's why I look at it. Maybe that's what he was thinking. I think he he's just kidding. Yeah, he's just kidding. but that's what That's what I thought. When they get that big, I'm like, ugh.
00:12:03
Speaker
Just... Now the odds are way worse than they ever were. Yeah, but I mean, they're terrible anyway. So might as well just go spend your 10 bucks or whatever. One in 6 million or one in 8 million. Oh, geez.
00:12:14
Speaker
if I think it's even worse than that. more than that. It's like 100 million, one in 100 million or something crazy. One in a trillion. Hey, so um good news for everybody listening to the show is we're going to keep going because did not win the lottery.
00:12:27
Speaker
Yeah, our exit strategy did not work out this past week. It failed. So we had continue on with this one. Not paying quite as well, though.
00:12:38
Speaker
It pays in satisfaction. <unk>t satisfied I might be able to get Abraviti. Oh. Not a row of... Just one. Yes. Like ah like a two-footer. Yeah. Well, they're like 60 bucks, you know. it's A two-footer...
00:12:54
Speaker
and Okay, and then I have to go with like the six inch of the seedling the seedlings. All right, i enough of this nonsense. Let's get on to the news of the week. The stories we we picked. that i was on the I was traveling, but I still got to ah go through some stories. And we we got a couple ones that were, at least the first one here is pretty interesting. So here's the headline.
00:13:21
Speaker
ICE takes Cleveland Father after he enters the U.S. legally through now paused program. ah's Cleveland Father. take it Sort of like Maryland man.
00:13:35
Speaker
Yes. Cleveland Father, Maryland man. Very similar. i like how taken is great. is ah is is a great That would be an adjective or adverb or whatever. I fell asleep in most of my English classes, so forgive me.
00:13:50
Speaker
Let's just, I got, of course, new channel five who else, uh, but it's not, I'm sorry, people not Morgan trial. apologize. I don't think i have heard for anything this week, which is sad. Very sad. Let's hear what new channel five has to say about this Cleveland father.
00:14:05
Speaker
A family torn apart. Immigration officers took Alex Miljohn, a Cleveland father, from his home in front of his children. Tonight, his family and church say that Alex followed the rules.
00:14:17
Speaker
He came here legally through a government program that's now been put on pause. Which program? News 5's Elizabeth Van Mitry reports. Since July 15th, Alex Majan has been locked behind bars.
00:14:28
Speaker
ICE agents put him there, arresting Majan at his Cleveland home while his family watched. I remember getting a phone call um where I was told that Alex had been taken. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. I guess you got a phone call?
00:14:47
Speaker
Huh. Well, you mean they didn't batter, ram the door down and take him? Yeah, did he get one? did he Now, did he if he got the phone call, the first thing that came to mind mind is this, Tom. Let's hear this.
00:15:01
Speaker
They're going to take you. Jim, stay focused, baby. This is key. You will have five, maybe ten seconds. Very important seconds. like Leave the phone on the floor. Concentrate. Shout out everything you see about them.
00:15:13
Speaker
Hair color, eye color, tall, short, scars. Anything you see, you understand?
00:15:22
Speaker
they're there i can hear them remember concentrat straighte I'm thinking it went something like that.
00:15:29
Speaker
Probably not, though. We'll continue. But remember, he was taken, not arrested. Taken. At his home, in front of his children. You can't forget that. Had been taken.
00:15:41
Speaker
um at his home, in front of his children. Yeah. And... After just dropping off his wife at work. Today, the leaders gathered demanding this to end. This is enough.
00:15:52
Speaker
we we We don't want ah to see families separated. Michonne came here legally from a Biden administration program called a CBP-1, a mobile app created to give migrants fleeing violence, especially from Venezuela, a safe and legal way to schedule appointments at the border.
00:16:10
Speaker
The program allowed them to enter the U.S. while waiting for a judge to decide if it's safe to send them back. it's also important to understand that Alex's story is not an isolated one. There are families all over our community, our state, our country who are going through ah very similar kind of suffering. But the federal program is now on pause. suffer Supporters say Alex is stuck in limbo.
00:16:32
Speaker
Alex came from Venezuela because he felt that it was dangerous for him in Venezuela for political reasons. And right now he's a prisoner in America for political reasons, which is a little bit ironic. Oh, that's so Ohio State Representative Gary Click does. Wait, is he's here for political reasons. He's you now being in prison for political reasons or because something changed maybe.
00:16:53
Speaker
Oh, it's just because, well, Venezuelan, excuse me. Continue. Anyway. He doesn't know the details in Mahjom's story, but notes that if he's now here illegally, that should be addressed.
00:17:06
Speaker
While we welcome our immigrants, we want our immigrants come in legally. There's a front door and there's a back door We want them to come in the front door. Mahjom's future rests in the hands of a judge this November. Not to decide if he can stay in the U.S., but if it's safe for him to be sent back to Venezuela. he would get asked about his story. ICE would have a chance to cross-examine him, and the judge would basically decide...
00:17:27
Speaker
If they believe that it would be dangerous for him to return to Venezuela because of his political opinion. Until then, Mijan waits behind bars. His family waits at home. A community waits for answers.
00:17:38
Speaker
For News 5, I'm Elizabeth Van Mitre. so So what you're saying is he's actually getting the due process that he should have gotten when first came in the country instead of four or five years later.
00:17:51
Speaker
he came in through the Biden back door. i would I challenge that.
00:17:58
Speaker
That's why I pulled this story for Captain. Moves it up to the top. Look at that picture, Tom. Have you seen the picture in the in the story? ah The one the show notes?
00:18:10
Speaker
Yeah. How old are those kids? How would would you say? There's three kids there. Three girls, looks like. Yeah, I would say the oldest is, don't know, 10?
00:18:21
Speaker
Six, eight? Yeah, eight, maybe. When was Biden president? Well, he didn't have to come here with them. How did he make them? Yeah, you're right. Wait.
00:18:33
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, when did they come over?
00:18:38
Speaker
Did they come here after him? Questions I have. I don't know. Yeah, they don't tell you anything. I don't know. i did ah ah I tried to do a search on when this guy got in the in the country. There's no other articles, but I'd like to know what he was doing for a living. They don't mention anything where he worked, what he did.
00:18:56
Speaker
When he came to the country? This family's dressed fairly well they're celebrating it looks like a birthday party or something my thought is he's a little overly groomed he did not come here during the biden administration he he applied for asylum during the biden administration gotcha that's my feeling that's not way they say it in the clip or in this article they say he came here under The CBP one, it was a mobile app ah created to give immigrants of migrants fleeing violence, a illegal way to schedule appointments. So he wasn't, he just, when was his appointment?
00:19:39
Speaker
They don't tell you that either. So it's a way to speeding up as up. They're just doing them a favor by speeding up his appointment when they take them. Well, I guess so, yeah, right?
00:19:50
Speaker
So it says he came to the U.S. through CBP-1, a Biden administration mobile app creating created to give migrants fleeing, like you said, fleeing, but he came to the U.S. through the CBP-1 app.
00:20:06
Speaker
Does not say he came... During that time, he just came there through the app. so So what he was in mexico he was in Venezuela, and he he he downloaded the app, and then the app transformed him through the app, transported him into America.
00:20:19
Speaker
That's how he got here. No, I believe he was here already. How else do you have kids that are seven or eight years old if if you came here during the Biden administration, and that was four years ago, at max four years ago?
00:20:34
Speaker
Because this program didn't start in 2020 even. It probably started in 21 or 22 by the time everything gets rolling. Are they going to take, why didn't they take her and the kids?
00:20:45
Speaker
I mean, don't, why would you want to separate families? I would imagine she's a legal citizen. That would be my guess. Otherwise they would have her too. Did he come here and meet her here? Maybe? Why?
00:20:57
Speaker
I mean, Tom, these are details that we don't need to know as little people. The little people, the little, they don't, we don't need to know this. Just read the headline and move on. Cleveland father taken.
00:21:07
Speaker
Cleveland father taken is all you need to know about this story is all they want you to know about this story. Just like Maryland man deported. Yes. And, and just, just in case there was, what they're not debating on whether he's going to leave or not.
00:21:20
Speaker
They're debating on whether Venezuela is the place to send him or not. That's what they said, in and not whether he's going to be deported or whether Venezuela is safe. So he comes, he comes, they they, this is part of the problem. They come to the United States, they claim asylum.
00:21:33
Speaker
And during the Trump administration, what the biggest thing he changed, of the biggest things he changed the first term was he, that waiting period for asylum was done in Mexico, not in America.
00:21:45
Speaker
And it, and all of a sudden, All the crossings like went to almost zero back in 2018 or whatever, 2017, after this was enacted. It was very low.
00:21:56
Speaker
Very low. Basically, when in comparison, it was virtually zero when you had 5,000 a day to 50. But during the biden Biden administration took that off, and now when you claim asylum, you get to wait in the United States, which is where you get all the people shipped to Springfield in chicago and Chicago and Columbus and all these other places wait.
00:22:17
Speaker
Because they got to put them somewhere. And these are, you know, you get 5,000 people a day crossing the border. Plus all the people who come here legally under visas and then overstay their visas.
00:22:29
Speaker
but about all those people? So would I think that's maybe the one way he came in here. He had a visitation visa and overstayed it. I don't know. But there's i um i guess I guess he could, I don't know.
00:22:43
Speaker
What other way is there? Yeah, I tried looking him up, you know, just ah Googling him. and There's somebody else with a similar name. it's says Yeah, there's a couple. There's a few. It seems like a common name. Yeah.
00:22:56
Speaker
I couldn't find any info on who this person was. There was something. Milan's family and legal team. yeah has a legal team, Tom.
00:23:07
Speaker
Not bad for a... Yeah, not bad for a poor... illegal immigrant. i would I like to keep this, you know, we we keep tabs on this. like Like a lot of things we've been doing.
00:23:18
Speaker
The community is looking for prayers and answers. Waiting for waiting and prayer and praying for answers is what I'm praying for answers too. can i When did guy get here? Give me some freaking details, Channel 5.
00:23:30
Speaker
We need Morgan Trow on the job. Yes, that's the problem. Morgan was not on the, that's the problem. Clone her. Immediately clone her. And she just, she doesn't deal with this stuff. It's just a. It's Columbus. Yeah. She's their Columbus, Columbus critter reporter.
00:23:47
Speaker
ah She's not. But again, questions need to be answered. And unfortunately, our crappy media is not asking the answers that need to be. No, they're just pushing a narrative.
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah. He was taken. Love that. All right. So again, we'll, you know, question with boldness, question boldness.
00:24:11
Speaker
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00:24:25
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00:24:42
Speaker
All right, moving along. Next, we're going to move over to some Congress critters talk. So the tax reform has moved into another level.
Ohio Property Tax Reforms
00:24:55
Speaker
So Citizens for Tax Reform has started started a whole, mean, they've really stirred the pot with this. and with the threat of losing property tax, Columbus is listening and they're trying to do some stuff.
00:25:08
Speaker
That scares me. I know it does. i think they're scared. Because they're afraid they're going to lose this tax. They're going to lose the ability to tax people to no end, in my opinion.
00:25:20
Speaker
So the GOP is trying to save property tax. with what they're calling the taxpayer freedom trilogy. It's a three bills that air are, they're trying to put together and package together.
00:25:33
Speaker
I think one of them is from, I don't know if they're all from the same representative. Gary click was actually referenced in the, the ice video. He was one they got a ah clip from.
00:25:46
Speaker
So three bills. It's House Bill 420. Yay. he House Bill 421 and House Bill 422. Yeah, they're all kind of sponsored by different people, looks like. So House Bill 420 is discounting the continuum, discontinuing the continuum.
00:26:05
Speaker
It is a joint sponsored represent um by Representative Bernie Willis, Republican of Springfield. House Bill 420 serves as Act One in the trilogy trilogy. Continuing levies have been beginning to to had been a beginning to the end, to no end.
00:26:21
Speaker
i can ah can read. You know what? How about this? I'll go to the clip. Let's go to the clip. ah Travel gets to me. There you go. Let's just check News Channel 5, Tax Trilogy.
00:26:32
Speaker
And then they they go through three bills. And we will add any context that we need that they probably left out. So there's a couple things here. Let's check it out. We've been telling you about a growing share of Ohioans who want property taxes to be eliminated. Some state lawmakers are now pushing for more changes.
00:26:50
Speaker
Mike Holden joins us live with more on this proposal and how it could impact you.
00:26:56
Speaker
Guys, good morning to you. It is called the Taxpayer Freedom Trilogy. Once again, Taxpayer Freedom Trilogy. And it's technically three separate bills, but they're all packaged together. The focus is overhauling property taxes.
00:27:11
Speaker
And officials who support this measure say we should not be paying for things like levies that we're stuck in, wondering where our money is going, not seeing any sort of result that personally benefits us.
00:27:21
Speaker
So let's boil it down a little further this morning. Ohio Republican State Rep Gary Click, you see him right here, of the 88th District is one of the lawmakers spearheading this taxpayer freedom trilogy.
00:27:33
Speaker
The goal of the three bills is to try to overhaul Ohio's property tax system. The first bill would eliminate never-ending tax levies and introduce vote-based renewals.
00:27:44
Speaker
They'd be wiped out ultimately by 2030. The second bill would allow voters to reduce the amount of property tax local governments can push for without voter approval. And the third bill would adjust the voter approval threshold for different sizes of new levies.
00:28:00
Speaker
Representative Click says property tax reform is a huge issue in Ohio, and he says residents deserve transparency. He says there has been unnecessary government overreach, and voters should not be forced to break their bank on things they have no say in.
00:28:15
Speaker
The mantra from the beginning of our nation was no taxation without representation. It wasn't no taxation. There's no taxation without representation. And every generation deserves to have a voice in the taxes that they pay.
00:28:30
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They deserve to know how much they're paying, why they're paying it and what good it's doing.
00:28:38
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He further says that voters should have more say in voting on blocking, approving, and removing taxes. This is clearly not a done deal just yet. It was just introduced back on August 25th, Mike. So we are going to follow the legislative process, follow through, and continue to track the impacts on so many voters across the state.
00:28:57
Speaker
Yeah, Mike, obviously none of us want to pay more in property taxes, but opponents of the bill are saying that it could have a negative effect here. For the children. For the children. Yeah, I mean, they're furious about it because they say, how are you going to support public education?
00:29:11
Speaker
How are you going to assist local fire departments as well as services that involve public safety like police departments? How do you allocate more funds when you're kind of getting rid of all of those? like What do we do? This is very preliminary at this point. We're going to check in with both sides, continue to follow through it and we'll let you know how it all shakes out.
00:29:27
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Taxes, always a hot topic. Yeah, this morning for us in Cleveland. Thank you. Taxes. Always a hot topic. these These three house bills won't do anything.
00:29:40
Speaker
I don't know if we could say they won't do anything. They're not going to lower your taxes. I think they are something. I think all of them have some good stuff to them. I believe it's smoke and mirrors.
00:29:54
Speaker
Well, they're trying to say they're doing something, but you're not going to see ah an effect in your ah in europe tax bill or your you know your property tax bill. So here's a couple of things that will probably not much, if any. Yes, I do agree.
00:30:10
Speaker
But I think a lot of these are something, things that have to be addressed, but would be addressed by limiting property taxes. So there's one bill would take care of all of this. Just get rid of the property tax. The first one, 420, that I was trying to get through is basically these continuing levies.
00:30:27
Speaker
You know, you have a continuing levy and there's people that are paying for like levies that are from their, that their parents passed 30 years earlier because the continuing levy never ends.
00:30:39
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You know, i'm i'm ah I'm guilty of this as well, where you go into a vote and there's a levy and it says it's they're not raising taxes, they're just continuing it. So in my in your head, you just sit there and go, well, I'm not going to be spending any more. Okay, we need this, I guess.
00:30:54
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Yes. So it's but it's almost a ah way to trick people into continuing things. Right. Because you're already spending it, so you don't you you don't feel like you're adding on to the massive...
00:31:06
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bill already. Right. I like to tell people, yes, you're right. it Well, but it's not going to increase my, um, my, my bills or my tax bill. I said, yes, but voting for it will give yourself a tax cut. And they all go, oh yeah.
00:31:18
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. But it it, it never happens. You know, it it rarely, it never fails. Like an a continuing, a continuing, uh, tax levy never fails.
00:31:30
Speaker
I've never seen one fail, at least around here. Yes. Those are usually the easiest ones to get passed, like you said, because people are like, well, it's not going to cost me anymore. I'm already paying it, so let's just keep it going. Which I get, but also you're not you're also thinking, I'm thinking the other way, like how do I cut my taxes?
00:31:45
Speaker
Oh, by voting for this for the voting against, you know. that's That's the first. House Bill 421 addresses the the inside millage that they can...
00:31:58
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ah dickan So there's 10 mills that all counties can tax you without your approval. it's it There's a floor that they can they can go up to 10 millage of of taxes and without your without any levy being passed or any bill being put on the ballot or anything like that.
00:32:21
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and they want to have have the have the ability to to address those that millage in cases where they don't need it. Let's have somebody else look at how much you actually need, and can you we lower this automatic tax?
00:32:38
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basically a tax without representation because they can increase it, lower it without citizens saying anything. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a way for them. It's, it's a way for them to tax you without going back to you and asking for it.
00:32:52
Speaker
Right. So when, when there's a levy that, but we were I think I was wrong on originally, but there's there are levies that are obviously based on your house value. And as your house value goes up, you can they are they do lower the levy to cover the peaks of your property value going up. and But there's a floor and you can't touch below that 10 millage. So they want that to change.
00:33:19
Speaker
This is the third piece. I like the third piece. Yeah, the third piece is actually interesting. So it adjusts voter approval thresholds for new levies requiring broader consensus for large tax hikes. Levies under one mill would continue to require a simple majority, so over 50%.
00:33:40
Speaker
I still think that all they should just get rid of that and make everything what over anything over 2 mil is. Yeah, so basically one point. Yeah, so then the next one is 1 mil to 1.9 requires 60% majority.
00:33:53
Speaker
So you think that it should be 0 to 1.9 should be a 60% majority. Yeah. matter, right? Yeah. 55 maybe you want to have scale. Yeah, definitely. if you want to have a ah ah scale Yeah.
00:34:05
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Yeah. From 1.9, 1 mil to 1.9 mils would be 60% majority. And those two mils and higher would need a 66% majority. Yeah. I'd like that. That, that makes sense to me.
00:34:16
Speaker
that mean That means, that means an overwhelming majority of the people want, But they got to that 66 number specifically because 66% of homes in Ohio are owner-occupied.
00:34:29
Speaker
Exactly. Which means 34% of ah the voters can currently raise other people's taxes, but not their own in a way because you do it does end getting getting passed on to you in your rent.
00:34:40
Speaker
Yeah, a little bit, but not not to the extent the owner gets. And it's delayed. Yes. And it's usually delayed. You know, it's not, doesn't happen immediately and all of this other stuff. So, yeah. So, and and they, even and a around Ohio state in the Columbus, I think but Vivek was saying this. I think one of his things that we brought up, I think we played the clip.
00:35:01
Speaker
He mentioned, yeah, there's some people that they go to college, 20-year-old going to college at Ohio State will vote for ah for a levy, and then a year and a half, two years later, he's gone. They're gone. the The other thing about the renter thing, you know, don't don't forget the renting is based often on the market, so that can go up and down. Yeah.
00:35:20
Speaker
I know technically it affects the amount somebody pays, but the homeowner is getting ah dicked on that. Yes, of for sure. Yeah, especially big big apartment complexes, stuff like that.
00:35:33
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Yeah. your your your You sign leases. You sign a multi-year lease, and you you can't really raise, I mean, clauses everywhere, but there's also those. you the the The landlord is kind of handcuffed as when they can...
00:35:45
Speaker
increase rent. So they could go a year or two with, with higher property taxes before they can even try to increase it. and And that goes for business locations too, I would think, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. some respect You know, yeah. Businesses renting a place. If you want your bill building, you know, full, you're probably not going to be raising the rent too much.
00:36:07
Speaker
Yeah. Cause you have to compete with people who maybe don't, you know, somebody is not going to raise it to try to. Yeah. It depends on the market. It depends how many, you know, renters are how many available units?
00:36:19
Speaker
Right. Yep. turns out Yeah. Market supply and demand, as they say, that's what they're trying to do. I think, I think they're just running scared and they're trying, like like we said at the beginning, they're trying to get something done to, to push against the citizens for property tax reform for the, for the abolishment ballot that, that is currently getting signatures.
00:36:46
Speaker
That's what I think. And I guess, thank you. Thank you for the to the citizens for property tax reform for at least getting them to move this much. We haven't seen this much movement. I don't remember ever.
00:36:58
Speaker
I think it's going to get crazy here in 2026. Yes. After they get, especially if they get those things, when they get those signatures and the ballot gets approved. And I believe this is what they're, but we're doing something. Look, no, no, no, don't no need to go that far. It's very extreme.
00:37:13
Speaker
Very extreme. But look what we're doing for you. Look all these, look at this bill. And everybody's going to go, okay. Yeah. You know what? All this all should have been done. before escalation in property taxes, you know, over the last few years or since a house values shot up 30, 40%. This, you know, this is a little too late in my opinion.
00:37:39
Speaker
mean, that's the complaint of the citizens for property tax. Yeah. 25 years and three or four so Ohio Supreme Court rulings that property taxes funding schools or property taxes is unconstitutional.
00:37:53
Speaker
And they haven't done, they've virtually done nothing. I mean, I'm sure that you, you can have some politicians, you know, pull this bill that bill up, but it whatever they did, didn't do anything because property taxes are skyrocketing and they haven't done, and they haven't done anything until we pushed this hard.
00:38:12
Speaker
So I just want to thank the people. Yeah, yeah it's it's ah people are people are in a bad position here. I mean, people are getting losing their home. They're going to be losing their homes because of the property taxes.
00:38:23
Speaker
And I'm not talking about working people. i'm talking about people that are retired. You know, yeah you're on a fixed income and all of a sudden your taxes go from like $3,500 a year to $5,500 a year. You're like, oh man, what what are you going to do?
00:38:41
Speaker
And for those who think you own your home when you're not paying for it, you actually don't because the state will take it away from you if you stop paying taxes. Yeah, we never own our home. So who owns it? Maybe in Florida when you don't have property tax,
00:38:56
Speaker
don't believe they do, do they? No, they do. They don't have income tax. They don't have income tax. That's right. Yeah. They have property. There's only, no states have no income tax. There's a few that are just, ah <unk> I don't even know what you would call it.
00:39:10
Speaker
it's um It's some type of income, or not income tax. I'm sorry. um Property tax. There's a few states that have very minimal income. property tax. Right. But even fewer that, I would like to see how many states fund their schools, fund their schools through property tax.
00:39:27
Speaker
I would bet Ohio is probably one of the few. That fund their schools? Yeah. Through property tax. Really? I, I don't know. I mean, look at the problem you have with it.
00:39:38
Speaker
mean, it's, it's not, it's not a great system. i mean, Can we... I'm looking it up right now. Yeah, I was going say, can we look it up? I don't think so. I don't think there's that many. How many states fund... ah got it. Oh, you Okay.
00:39:53
Speaker
Yeah. I've been typing. our state All states. so All states. All states do. Yeah. Unfortunately, though...
00:40:05
Speaker
Ohio may be unique with a constitutional, it says in the Constitution in Ohio how schools should be funded. I mean, and it's only been there for 200 years or whatever. It's not like they've actually read it.
00:40:16
Speaker
So that's interesting. Yeah, all states do. It's just a matter of um how much do they take from, like, New Hampshire. Property ah taxes account for more than 60% of the public school funding.
00:40:31
Speaker
ah Whereas in Hawaii, the single district receives no funding from property taxes in a single school district. ah Yeah, you would really have to dig a little bit more. I mean, that's that's a thats a lot of homework there, Rob. but Well, no, i i I'm shocked that there's that many. is Ohio having such a problem with it then?
00:40:55
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New Hampshire, Nebraska, and connectut Connecticut are the highest with 59%.
00:41:03
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ah Vermont, a very small portion
00:41:07
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ah near zero, actually. Fact check, false. Yeah. Yeah. Every, every. So why why is such problem? Ohio's pretty high. is such a problem in Ohio then? Because of the percentage that's funded? seventy four percent 74%. So they're near, near the highest because the highest is.
00:41:26
Speaker
That sounds like one of the highest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, the property tax value. High property tax value districts often benefit from higher tax revenue, allowing them to fund their schools above the state minimum. and In Ohio, for example, a district in a high value area received 74. So yeah even Ohio is like different for all ah all the districts.
00:41:52
Speaker
So if you live like, i would think if you live in Pepper Pike or something like that, you're going to be paying a little bit more. More of your money is going towards the school district. Yeah. There's also more money there. Yeah. Cause the house values are much higher and,
00:42:06
Speaker
Interesting. And just um a more percentage. So it's, yeah, it's complicated. It's way too complicated. Yeah. I think they love it. I think they like making it complicated.
00:42:17
Speaker
Well, yeah. It keeps people from looking it up. Yeah. too It's too much trouble and they just go, oh, I mean, it's, yeah. You got to go to work. You got to take your kids to school. You got to help them with their homework. Then you got to mow the lawn and then you got to do laundry and then you got to cook dinner and all this stuff. And then you're going to sit there and worry about, um,
00:42:35
Speaker
Your property, how much of your property tax goes to schools? You're not even going to pay attention. and Try to dig through that complicated mess. Yeah. Kind of similar to a lot of things in life. You just make it so complicated, you just give up.
00:42:48
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Give up. Just keep going because too busy, too complicated. Nobody wants to think about it. And so that's why I say abolish it all and start all over again. Ah, dad. Sounds good to me.
00:43:00
Speaker
Start all over. It doesn't mean we can't. And that's kind of the... The whole thing on this this clip is like, oh my gosh, what are we going to do? We don't know what to do. If we can't if it can't tax your property, what are we going to do?
00:43:12
Speaker
but we don't steal your money, we don't know what to do. I don't know. I got an idea. How about I have a police tax? Police fire, first responder tax. Then I got a road tax for my property.
00:43:24
Speaker
Let's make it, let's break it out so that I can tell how much I'm paying for each service. Send me a bill. Again, why shouldt why should each person on my street pay a different price for the same services?
00:43:38
Speaker
Yeah, an itemized bill would be nice, right? It'd be very nice. I'd like to see what you guys are spending and where.
00:43:46
Speaker
How much of my money is going to the fire department? That's never going happen. And if I do this to my house, can my bill go down? You know, if I do some type of... upgrade fireproofing type of thing or yeah, there you go.
00:44:02
Speaker
If I have an alarm system, can I pay a little less in taxes for the police? Yeah. I would, yeah. I was just going you may actually want to pay, you may have to pay more because of all the false, false calls you get. um But anyway, what if I don't? Okay. No, I'm not only kidding. I was just kidding. Cause I think about like, actually they probably come to a house with a, I've had an alarm systems.
00:44:25
Speaker
Yeah. So what about the what about the what about the Karen that calls the police on everybody? Shouldn't she be paying more? Yeah. should You should have X amount of calls every month. No, you shouldn't.
00:44:38
Speaker
No good points. ah But itemize Bill, yes, for sure. Because how do I keep track of what you guys are doing? I was just thinking about a previous show where we talked. ah There was an article about a woman...
00:44:49
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who called the police department. she got ah She had the 911 department call her an idiot because she called 911
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00:44:58
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so often. it was over 300 times in a year.
00:45:03
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i i don't know. Yeah. we ah Come on, Rob. We did it. we gott we ah We talked about that. She called, I forget how how many thousand times.
00:45:15
Speaker
In like a five-year period. Eventually they started calling her names or something like that. For some reason that rings a bell to over a five-year period. but Yeah, you should get charged more. Yeah. i mean, I'm i'm all for charging the people who get rescued off of in the middle of nowhere when they get lost or stuck on a mountain.
00:45:32
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But I'm called crazy and mean when I say that. i think I think they would deter people from putting themselves in situations if they knew they had to pay to get rescued.
00:45:45
Speaker
But the argument is, but they wouldn't call if they knew they had to pay, so they'd die. And I'm like, well, I mean, I guess it's choice you have to make. I don't know. You're going to call if you, uh, that's what they say. They say that they, like, what I brought this up was, what a rattle we just got down. But, uh, the, um, the sub that went down to see the Titanic, uh, Titan two, that was a billionaire.
00:46:11
Speaker
Do I know? Why, why didn't they bill him? Oh, I don't know. um they They had ah dozens of ships, hundreds and hundreds of people, the Coast Guard, all this stuff searching for it, millions and millions of dollars spent.
00:46:25
Speaker
So I brought up at the time, like, where's the bill? When are going to send this guy bill? There's a billionaire that passed away, him and his kid, plus the guy who owned the the thing was a millionaire. I'm like, oh, well you can't because then they wouldn't call for help.
00:46:38
Speaker
Well, either way. I think you're going to call for help. I think you're going to call for help. Yeah. That's what I say too. Anywho, yeah, I don't, yeah like I said, i want I want more transparency on what you're doing with my money, and that this goes along with that.
00:46:57
Speaker
And i think I think abolishing it and starting all over again because it's so damn complicated. Even the people in Columbus don't know what the hell's going on.
00:47:08
Speaker
Oh, that's obvious. That's completely obvious. Speaking of not knowing what's going on in Columbus, We have our next story, which is a follow-up to HB1. And if you don't remember what HB1 was, HB1 is also known as the bill that banned barring DEI programs on Ohio's public campuses.
00:47:31
Speaker
But the law had something else in there that I didn't even realize. The law also requires universities to end programs with fewer than five graduates per year. Ohio University announced Wednesday that it identified 36 programs that fall below the new threshold and plans to end 11 of them.
00:47:54
Speaker
And they're all bullshit. ah They're 36, wait, 36 programs fall, but they're only going to end 11 of them. Bachelor of Arts in Chemistry. Yes. Bachelor of Arts in Chemistry.
00:48:05
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Bachelor of Arts in Physics and Mathematics and Geological Sciences. Bachelor of Arts in Mathematics. Bachelor of Fine Arts in Interdisciplinary Arts.
00:48:19
Speaker
Bachelor of Arts in Physics. Yeah. So they just took chemistry, geology, math, and physics and put arts in front of it and made made a new bachelor degree. So because it costs more money.
00:48:33
Speaker
you want to go for another degree... It costs extra. We need all these little classes and this and that. What was the other thing? A Bachelor of Fine Arts in, and this was my favorite.
00:48:45
Speaker
Bachelor of Fine Arts in Interdisciplinary Arts. So you got a Bachelor of Fine Arts in in and dis Interdisciplinary Arts.
00:49:00
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Wow. um yeah ah Associate of Individual Studies.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's retarded stuff. ah Associate's degree. and What did you go to school for? Individual studies.
00:49:15
Speaker
Oh, okay. So, I mean, ah college is definitely not a scam, people. Definitely not a scam at this point. So that was a a little a little added thing to the bill was anything with any public university that has fewer than five um graduates needs to end the program.
00:49:33
Speaker
My question is, what about the other 25? The curriculum... Cultivates critical thinking. I'm sorry. I've never seen anybody with an arts degree critically think.
00:49:45
Speaker
Well, won't say that, but but that doesn't happen very often. No.
00:49:52
Speaker
Yes. I don't know what else to say to this, but yay. Cut them. Cut them. You shouldn't go to school a for your degree for, don't know, Chinese history.
00:50:05
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and Come out and expect a job.
00:50:08
Speaker
So good. This is more more of the scam that they needed. to just searching. don't think there's anything else. Seven of the programs will hopefully continue, they're saying. There's loopholes. Yes. As university has submitted waivers to the state asking for exemps exceptions because the programs offer something unique or catered to workforce or curriculum needs.
00:50:31
Speaker
The other thing is this is like, this is Ohio University. And they got some bachelor, they got it like bachelor of arts in theater, bachelor of arts and music in voice, bachelor of music, or I'm sorry, bachelor of music in piano, bachelor of music in Oregon.
00:50:47
Speaker
and I'm like, I don't know if that's the school you go to for a bachelor of music degree. These are like add on. It's like, it's like impulse buying at the grocery store. That's what this is.
00:50:58
Speaker
That's what this is. I don't know. I need some more credit hours. Okay, click, click. I'll check these things and I'll get some credit hours. And then now you got to buy books and you got to buy this.
00:51:09
Speaker
but I'm just looking through all the Bachelor of Arts in Geography. it Like literally, they just put Bachelor of Arts in front of all this other Bachelor of Arts of African American Studies. ah Bachelor of Arts in Geography in Geographic Information Science.
00:51:26
Speaker
These are all the programs that they hope to continue because there are there's a particular curriculum that could be, what did they say?
00:51:37
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Oh, could be ah something unique or
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00:51:40
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catered to workforce ah or curricular needs. So which one of these apply to workforce needs? The Bachelor of Music and Instrumental Performance?
00:51:50
Speaker
Bachelor's of Science in Education in Spanish Education. Wow. Man, I didn't know they get this specific. this is like so But to be fair, this is less than five a year.
00:52:05
Speaker
Yes. Yes. So that could be that could be zero Yes. A lot of these could be told. There could be nobody applying for them. So, yeah, they're saying the the lot of these changes won't happen until next semester. Yada, yada, yada. So you think the school is like happy about this, actually?
00:52:26
Speaker
i Because it's less. It makes it easier for them. Maybe, but why'd they why did put them up to begin with? if they You had a couple students that wanted something like that. They started and then they can't end it.
00:52:37
Speaker
I wonder if there's some is there some battle between from between college to college on how many courses they offer. Oh, that's another thing. Yeah, sure. We offer more courses than blah, blah, blah. i don't know. Maybe.
00:52:51
Speaker
To me, just looks like ah something else that you your kid wants. my Mom, I need to take the Bachelor of Arts in African American Studies. Yeah. It's only going to cost me $4,000 more, mom. It looks good in their promotional material that they send out to students. there That's the other thing. You have all these Bachelor of Arts degrees and it looks good for, yeah, good point on that.
00:53:10
Speaker
So they're hoping that some of these will, but they'll get a waiver for it. And I'm saying, no, cut them all because they seem ridiculous to me. They seem ridiculous.
00:53:22
Speaker
Actually, they seem, I got a new clip, Tom. Come on, really? you you think What are you going to do with a Bachelor of Arts in Geography in Geographic Information Science? What what do you think?
00:53:36
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I think this might work. You big dummy. Come on, you big dummy. I thought he used to say, shut up, you big dummy. I couldn't find that clip anywhere.
00:53:48
Speaker
I don't know if they took out the shut up part. I don't know. I saw a shirt over the weekend, over the last week with that in it. It just had Red Fox's face with some colors behind It said, big dummy under it.
00:54:01
Speaker
I thought that was awesome. reminded me of that show. That was a great show. Yeah, great show. Good. I will probably pull some more clips from that there's some good stuff in there. All right. So on to the next one.
00:54:14
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Canceling 11 degrees. They need to cancel another 18 or 20. Next on list for today. next on our list for today Have ever heard of Kratom, Tom? I never heard of it until today.
00:54:27
Speaker
Yeah, I never heard of it until I yes so i saw this story. um And apparently whenever DeWine hears about something new, he thinks we should ban it because he wants to ban Kratom.
00:54:41
Speaker
And I said, what the hell is Kratom? ah Let's hear what, of course, News Channel 5 has to say about Kratom.
00:54:50
Speaker
Welcome back to News 5 at 11. I'm Rob Powers. Governor Mike DeWine is calling for a ban on a substance used all around the world. Supporters say it's a safe alternative to alcohol, but the governor calls it an imminent threat to the public. News 5's Kaylee Olivas explains the controversy over Kratom.
00:55:06
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Kratom can be used as an alternative to alcohol, but Governor Mike DeWine says the substance does more harm than good, demanding a ban. Oh, I was very surprised because I didn't see this coming. Since 2022, the Sacred Waters Kava Bar has been operating on safe vibes and teas from around the world that have substances.
00:55:28
Speaker
mixed in them like natural kratom. For us, a small drink would be three and a half grams of kratom. For people that don't understand, it's, um I think, a safe alternative to alcohol or marijuana or any other substances that are out there. Kratom is not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for consumption or medical use, though.
00:55:50
Speaker
It's also not regulated in Ohio. Piggybacking off those two facts, Governor Mike DeWine called on the state's board of pharmacy on Tuesday to immediately deem kratom illegal, saying, quote, there is no accepted medical use for kratom in Ohio. It is an imminent public health risk.
00:56:07
Speaker
Adding that preliminary data from the Ohio Department but of Health reveals more than 200 unintentional Kratom overdose deaths from 2019 to 2024. We're in a world right now where we really don't know enough about this particular substance. Not only is Anita Sumani a state representative, but she's also a practicing OBGYN. We asked her thoughts on Kratom being used in drinks.
00:56:30
Speaker
I think the biggest difference between Kratom and some of the other medications that we've seen is that the the effects, the side effects of it, are very dose-dependent. So at low doses, it has a stimulant effect. She says higher doses can cause hallucinations, sometimes making people more violent or even hostile. I think that's something that maybe requires or should be more regulated.
00:56:55
Speaker
If we don't regulate it then people who are taking it you know from the black market are illegally. may not realize that the dosing that they're getting or the amount that they're getting. She also fears Kratom bought off the streets will be laced, causing even more deaths.
00:57:11
Speaker
Two bills attempting to regulate Kratom have been brought up in both chambers of the state capitol, but neither succeeded. Research is very important. Legislation is important. And that just takes time.
00:57:22
Speaker
The state pharmacy board was set to meet on Wednesday to make an emergency move to prohibit kratom. But it was canceled and no reason as to why has been provided. Michael Young, a partner at the Kava Bar, sees the cancellation as a good sign. Governor DeWine made the right decision to kind of step back from their plan and oh yeah learn a little bit more about it. There's currently no pending legislation that deals with Kratom, but at least one legislator says they're interested in drafting a bill that pushes for more research and regulation rather than a ban.
00:57:51
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Regulation. For News 5, I'm Kelly Olivas. Hey, what happens when they usually regulate something? Especially a substance.
00:58:03
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what i want to hear regulation, I hear tax. Yeah. I hear tax. We can't tax it. We got to tax it. It's not regulated, which means we can't tax it.
00:58:14
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You know, I can't have an opinion on this at all because I haven't heard anything good about it. Like, I haven't heard anyone arguing for it. I've just heard of it. Like, there's there's other...
00:58:27
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There are things in the health world that ah FDA hasn't approved and they're trying to fight. and But there's so many there's so much evidence of it being good that I tend to sit there and go, well, what the hell are you doing? it to me, it's just a way for, it's the way the pharmaceutical companies push for outlawing the stuff because they won't make no money off of it.
00:58:53
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Right. So is this the same? i don't know. Because I haven't heard anyone argue for it. there There have been overdoses, but they didn't tell you anything about those overdoses. Were those people sick? where the Like, I don't know.
00:59:08
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It's a drug I'm not familiar with. Sure. I, I, when I, when I run into, I don't know much about it either other than they're, people are drinking it all over the world. Are they?
00:59:19
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That's what, that's what the report says. It's a substance used all over the world. They said it's a natural substance. I don't think it's like something like meth or where they have to write create it. So I lean towards, uh, well, I can't put what I want in my own body.
00:59:35
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I don't think they should ban it or regulate it, but like I think DeWine's kind of overstepping his... Yes, that's but that's my point of this whole thing. is this I don't know what it is, ban it.
00:59:47
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Yeah, but that's what he does with everything. Yeah, kind of scary. Ban it. I don't want it. He does that with everything except taxes. He loves taxes. Can't ban taxes without putting more taxes in before you ban those taxes.
01:00:00
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Yes, that's the line. ah To me, I'm um'm very much a, I think, I don't think there're drugs should be illegal. the The only thing I'd, it's weird is like, you can definitely become physically dependent on crantum.
01:00:16
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Like you can on alcohol and cigarettes. Well, okay. You got a point there. Vicodin. You do have a point. Well, Vicodin's, you need prescription. Sure. So that's regulated.
01:00:28
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but Yes, but okay. It's okay if you're on Vicodin. Because it's regulated and prescribed. No, i'm what I mean is like, it um if you you test positive at ah a job for Vicodin, you're fine, right?
01:00:46
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But test positive for marijuana and you're in trouble because it was signed by a doctor and a prescribed by a pharmacy school company or you know vice versa, whatever. right That's what I mean. I like i get that it's regulated and there's a reason it's regulated because it's nasty shit, but I don't i don't think that... um I'm for just letting...
01:01:08
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I mean, legalize all the drugs, in my opinion, because what I put my body is up to me.
01:01:16
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That's kind of where I fall in. Legalize or decriminalize? What's the difference? i mean, i think I know difference. When they legalize it, they can regulate it. Okay.
01:01:27
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If this has similar effects that alcohol does... and you can overdose on it, should it be behind the counter? Can you overdose on alcohol?
01:01:39
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Yeah.
01:01:42
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I mean, I know it's regulated, and there's an age limit and all this other this stuff. Right, that's what I mean. it's completely legal and fine everywhere. do you want Do you want your 14-year-old to go out there and get it? No. Yeah, I mean, it this is... I don't know anything about this drug, but... No, I i get i see where you're going with it. I can see we're having some...
01:02:02
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rules to it. Like there are with cigarettes and alcohol and stuff like that. I get that, that the help help children, you know, children shouldn't be drinking at 10 years old. It's bad for their development all all this stuff. I get that.
01:02:14
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I just think as a, as an adult, Who are you to tell me what to put in my body? I get that some people think that's shocking, but. No, I agree with that. I just, when, I don't think it should be banned, but at the same time, like, I don't know enough about it to sit there and say, well, yeah, put it on the shelf or, hey, I can order this from Amazon.
01:02:34
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Yeah, it made me good. I mean, I, so I think where they left it is they're going to, they're going do some, they want to pass a bill to do some research so they know what it is and how to regulate it basically. Yeah, that, that always, that never works out.
01:02:48
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i need to hear be true look I need to hear some like legitimate and ah people talking about this, not not the industry. not Or a politician. Or a politician. like the Really, like I do ah strangely do listen to a lot of health stuff from different physicians, from different athletes and doctors and stuff.
01:03:15
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And i I haven't heard of this one, so I have, I have zero opinion on it, which is strange because I do know a little bit more than the average person about ah ah supplements and things like that. I, I think I do at least.
01:03:31
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Yeah. I, yeah, you seem, the well, yeah, you're looking more for natural stuff all the time and, you know natural remedies for but natural, but know what I mean? Like, you know, yeah. I don't know if it's natural. It's just I do look for stuff that's not main. Like, I would rather take, I would, ah they never, seems like most things they don't really find a cure for. They just pump you full of drugs to to treat you to treat you and and not cure you.
01:04:02
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So I would rather find the problem rather than just, oh put a bandaid on it or just to cover up the problem. And if you cure people, then they stop buying your drugs. That's kind of. Exactly. So like there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of chronic so-called chronic diseases that I, I think can be just, you know,
01:04:20
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maintain, you know, you maintain them. Yeah. you They, well, I should say the doctors maintain them, but you can actually cure them yourself. It's almost like a team effort. You know, ah you ingest the crap, you ingest the crap to make you sick. And then you go to the doctor and they give you the pills to help you ah recover from being sick. And then you eat more stuff that makes you sick. And then you go to the doctor and get more pills.
01:04:40
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It's almost like a team effort. They're all in cahoots. I mean, think, ah think about, think about the, you just sugar. Yep. They're in cahoots with the pharmaceuticals for sure.
01:04:52
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Dyes, all kinds of stuff. Yeah. one One little point I'd like to bring up is if anyone if no one has seen the movie or the at least clips from the movie Reefer Madness, I think that was from the 60s maybe? Was it 50s? Oh, God. I think that's even earlier.
01:05:07
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Hang on a second. That's from like the 20s or 30s. where they that's Yeah. That's about when they banned or put ah put marijuana on the schedule. 1936. Schedule 1 narcotic.
01:05:19
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And this movie's insane. I mean, the the way they portray, and this is kind of you know this has happened before and they portrayed people who smoke marijuana as, i mean, crazed maniacs.
01:05:32
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Almost like a PCP type of... Yeah, they're basically cokeheads or PCP. with you know the the And I'm like, I saw this and I was like, has anyone ever hung out with somebody smoking weed?
01:05:43
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They're definitely not crazed maniacs. You're more like, hey, wake up over there. you pass over the... Give me the Doritos. Stop being all the Doritos. Reefer Madness was made by... um oh the cotton industry.
01:05:58
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Ah, yes, they that's right. I know. Because, because ah ah cotton was going to be overtaken by a hemp. I think you like like a hundred times more yield or something crazy out of a hemp plant. And, and, and the clothing lasts forever from hemp. Much more durable. Yep.
01:06:13
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Much more durable. It's more comfortable. It's, uh, more comfortable in many ways. It's lighter, it's actually stronger, and it's I think it does a better job of wicking away sweat.
01:06:28
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Yeah. So when when the cotton industry... saw that coming, they started freaking people out and trying to combine hemp with reefer, you know, marijuana and trying to figure it out then.
01:06:44
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Yeah. So big alcohol, it's big alcohol. They got, they got the one captured and this is directly competes with alcohol. So that's why he wants to ban it. Yeah, and there's taxes on alcohol. I mean, it's not a – and that maybe that's more of the more the the avenue is, well, we have to tax this because it's taken away from it.
01:07:02
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If people switch from here from alcohol to Kratom, how are we going to fund our stadiums? The maintenance on our stadiums of if everyone stops drinking alcohol. well the alcohol industry is freaking out right now too because everybody's drinking less alcohol a lot young p the young people i think i think the gen xers and the boomers are still you know they're still pounding away even though they're getting older they're probably drinking less but the young you know think millennials still do but gen z and gen alpha are not going to be drinking and as you as the baby boomers got older
01:07:39
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They were heavy drinkers, you know, just, but as they, as anybody gets older, you drink less. So as that huge population went away from drinking, cause they got older, that's, that's a huge part of it. I imagine too. Yeah. No, this, this, uh, yeah, you know, you got, you have a good point. This, the, the alcohol industry could be pushing, uh, the wine here.
01:07:57
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It could be. I mean, it's kind of tongue in cheek on it, but it's something that look, I mean, it's where you follow the money. Usually follow the money. Yeah. Yeah. the marijuana The marijuana industry could be too. you know Just think of think about all the taxes they get from that. And it seems like I would say the younger generation or even even Gen Xers want to – if they're going to – I remember going to a concert and and kind of getting a little – a good buzz on before I went to the concert or before I went to the ah some kind of show or –
01:08:30
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event And then, you know, you maintain it at the event. Yeah, you got save money somehow. Right. Yeah, exactly. That's how you saved money because, it was you know, you weren't you didn't want to pay eight bucks for a beer. Back then, it was probably five bucks, and now we would be thrilled with that price.
01:08:45
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Yeah. But
01:08:48
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you wanted to do that, and now I think ah so many people are just kind of taking their gummy in and enjoying the show without the alcohol, and they're just kind of...
01:09:01
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Yeah, I imagine. That's how they're lubricating, the you know socially lubricating themselves, I guess. Yes. That's good point. I think, yeah, you you probably smell a lot less. Everybody's just popping gummies or whatever else. Yeah, you know like the last concert I went to i at St. Vincent, which was outdoors, which I smelled a little bit, but it wasn't a crazy amount. And I was looking around and The bar, they had a couple of stations with drinks being sold, but it wasn't wasn't overly busy, you know?
01:09:36
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Not like in the old days.
01:09:40
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Good point, yeah. definitely People are definitely drinking less, and like you're saying, yeah, it's really just a shift in the culture, I think. I think the kids don't see why, and a lot of move more towards marijuana. It's just easier, I guess. And I don't blame them.
01:09:57
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No. I mean, it is that is poison. Like, literally. Oh, yeah. I mean, all people that stuff is. It's all poison. It's making your, doing something to your brain. Yeah.
01:10:09
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And there's weird, this is where they said, oh, the side effects are dose dependent. I'm like, yeah, like every drug. that That's true. Every drug. that was silly If you drink more alcohol, you have bigger side effects.
01:10:22
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Imagine that. All right. Enough of that nonsense. But can you drive on it? I don't know. Yeah. ah vision They didn't really mention that. well. What part of alcohol, like what part of the alcohol high does it like kind of simulate?
01:10:40
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Is it the like the retard part or is it like the just you're socially ah more...
01:10:47
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lubricated yeah Yeah, that's the way I call it. No, it is good way to say it. You're just a little bit more free with your ah mouth. I think he said alcohol, marijuana, or any other substance substance it's that's out there. It mimics, he says, like alcohol, marijuana, or any other substance. Well, alcohol and marijuana, they're not the same, so that doesn't make sense either.
01:11:09
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gives you a high it gives you buzz. Well, kind of, I don't know you know. Is it just an anxiety a relief? Just like... ah just so like Well, because I mean <unk> don't, most people have a drink when they're out so they can, it's easier to talk to people, right? So it's an anxiety thing.
01:11:29
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Yes. Is this the same thing? Could be. And i would, I would say, I would encourage our listeners to send us an email if you've ever tried Kratom.
01:11:42
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01:11:54
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Actually, no, I want to try it. I was thinking, that's what I was thinking. I need to try And then I saw what's next on the list. I got to make sure I mentioned that. like, what a segue. I can make a segue, Tom. I made a segue.
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01:12:33
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Next on our list of wonderful Ohio stories is is a bill that, um well, they want to try to save energy, Tom.
01:12:44
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and Roy Klopfenstein, Stein or Steiner or something like that. Who's that? Oh, yeah, that's that's sorry How do I forget that name?
01:12:54
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Klopfenstein. Yes, Dean. A Republican. Republican in Ohio wants to introduce is introducing House Bill 427. What will House Bill 427? This is the headline from the i Idea Stream.
01:13:08
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Ohio bill would let utilities reduce customers' thermostat and water heater usage. Let's see what the little quick clip from Idea Stream on what this is all about.
01:13:20
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An Ohio lawmaker wants to create an electricity peak demand program for small commercial and residential consumers. It could create financial incentives for participants. Under a peak demand program, utilities might raise a consumer's thermostat to reduce load on the hotter days of the year.
01:13:37
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As Ohio is staring down eventual electric shortages from growing demand and with new energy generation far off, Republican Representative Roy Kloppenstein says the bill is another tool in the state's toolbox.
01:13:49
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If we want to attract more business to Ohio, if we want to have the data centers here, if we don't want rolling blackouts, <unk> we're going to have to look at a number of creative things. And this is one of them we know works because the commercials use it.
01:14:04
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A similar energy efficiency effort died late last year. That bill would have enrolled all Ohio consumers in it, requiring them to opt out rather than opt in. Sarah Donaldson at the Ohio Public Radio Statehouse News Bureau.
01:14:18
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Another reason a lot to listen to a Quicker Rivercast, because they originally tried to put a bill in that everybody would be in automatically enrolled in this program unless you opted out. You slimy suckers, you.
01:14:31
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Yeah. I got an idea. I think I've solved the problem, Tom. What's that? If we're having problems with the energy grid, and like, you know, when it's 95 degrees outside. Build more power plants? Well...
01:14:44
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This is less of common sense. This is a little bit little bit deeper in depth than just this simple, power more power plants. Oh, like that's going to solve anything, Tom.
01:14:55
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Windmills? Yes, windmills and some, no, no, no. I'm thinking instead of turning down or turning up my thermostat to lower my energy usage, how about you turn off the data center?
01:15:08
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Just a thought. ah Are they going to have, are you going to reduce their power usage or just mine? They're the ones sucking it all out of here. Turn it off. Just a thought.
01:15:21
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Let's make people uncomfortable so the data centers can keep working. Got to do something, Tom. They're turning up my thermostat. ah first First, how are they going to do that?
01:15:32
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Yeah, there's no way to do that. um well you Turn down the power? you would have to know you have to put it in a new thermostat. You'd have to put in a different thermostat. Everybody has most everybody in Ohio that I know of has an electronic energy electric meter that connects to the internet, so they can check your usage without sending somebody by to look at it.
01:15:54
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Yeah, but they can't change. like Okay, so I turn off my... ah ah turn off my ah how are How are they going to connect to your house? they have You have to put a thermostat in there would There has to be some other equipment that you're you would be leasing, I'm sure.
01:16:10
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that does know I'm going to lease something that's going to turn up my thermostat? Yeah. Let's it doesn't say It doesn't say how they would do it.
01:16:22
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Yeah, and and this is a BS, Bill. They're not going to do that. it would cost them more than they ah then it would make a difference.
01:16:33
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Yeah, it doesn't. and Just give me the article again. Yeah. The only way I could see doing it is if you opt into something and like, let's say, ah let's say they will offer you a better price if you opt into this, you know, green energy thing.
01:16:52
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And if you opt into it, they install a ah thermostat that they can control. And they did this in California, I believe. where they just automatically turned up everybody's thermostat when everybody was like, when it was a hundred degrees outside, they're turning up everybody's thermostat that opted into that. But I don't think, I don't think the people that didn't opt into it were affected. and And the way they get everybody to opt in is just by offering you a discount for,
01:17:24
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on yeah daily use, I guess. It's weird. It says a similar, and they mentioned this in the thing, but in a similar, a similar energy efficiency effort died last year, that bipartisan bill would have enrolled all Ohio consumers in it.
01:17:40
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requiring them to opt out rather than opt in. They would have been automatically enrolled and charged $1.50 monthly fee for discounts on energy effective appliances and electronics. ah that So if you automatically enrolled, you'd be charged $1.50 month, discounts.
01:18:04
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dollar you for daysco
01:18:08
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It says they would charge $1.50 for discounts. That's what I'm trying to figure out. it says they would have been automatically enrolled and charged $1.50 monthly fee for discounts on energy efficient appliances. Okay. So you're being charged for a discount. and No, no. You know what?
01:18:25
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yeah What are the discounts? They're not. Are you charging other people so that you can give those people discounts? I don't know. You could do better idea stream. Yes. So they lobbied hard to kill the jet they killed a bill and they killed the bill. um Yeah, it doesn't does not say how they would go ahead and do How much are you saving on energy efficient appliances and electronics by paying $1.50 a month monthly fee? like yeah Am I saving five bucks? So that means I'm only saving $3.50?
01:18:58
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i don't Do you add $1.50 and if I get energy efficient appliances, you take the $1.50 off? don't but that well who Who doesn't have energy efficient appliances at this point? Unless you've got a refrigerator from 1960. Remember, Tom, they're taking away the Energy Star program.
01:19:13
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They cut it. Oh, no. How are we going to know? ah Yeah, I don't think this is going anywhere. i think Shame on you, Funklstein, or whatever your name is. Flop?
01:19:26
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Klopfenstein. Klopfenstein. That's a hell of a name there. I'm going to call him Flopfenstein. Flop and Flop.
01:19:36
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I like that, c Clop and Flop. that's be a Shame on you. be a show title it' in some places, Clop and Flop. ah So, yeah, I don't i mean. yeah It's not going to go anywhere. It's going to go anywhere, but but they're trying.
01:19:50
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And this is not one of the ways to help us in our energy situation. It's not. he Tell Facebook, tell Amazon to cut half their servers during the hot days and we're good.
01:20:04
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Or build some nuclear plants. Yes. And that will help us in 15 years when they're done. I mean, start now. i' going to wait I don't need the data center.
01:20:14
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Yeah, the data center. No, what they're actually doing is ah natural gas plants. Data centers centers aren't going to be here anyways. and There's some of them already here. so but which The ones that are already here are already hurting our energy grid, which are drawing too much from it, as we've talked about in the past, when you try to play your your guitar amp and It won't turn on because it's not. I was just about to bring it bring it up because ah my power is back up to where it used to be.
01:20:43
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Imagine that. It's about two volts less. And it's only, ah that's because it's 78 today, 88. Well, I haven't used my air conditioning for a week. You know, i haven't used it. I mean, yeah, my power consumption is much less. Yeah, and they they just started building data centers.
01:20:58
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So what happens when they really get in full swing? it So natural gas power plants are the way to go right now. They they can get them up pretty quick. And they they're doing them all they're announcing more and more all over the state.
01:21:12
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And that's that's how they plan on. And I think in the in the budget, they had a... a a streamline the permit process a little bit more to get, to try to get right as soon as 45 or 90 days approval so they can start breaking ground.
01:21:27
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And those are happening all over. Uh, I've, uh, come across a few. so Regardless, nuclear is the way to go. Nuclear is the way. Yeah. It, and it's funny. I watched a, um, I watched some sort documentary on YouTube about why large projects always go over budget and over time.
01:21:46
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And one of the big ones they talked about was nuclear power plants. And one of the reasons is because we don't we build so few of them around the world. that there is really ah lack of expertise on these massive projects.
01:21:58
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Yeah. go Over time, over budget. Yeah, that makes sense. and They're overregulated. and wellization i mean, they need to be regulated, but I'm sure there's way more bureaucracy to that than needed. Tape, I should say.
01:22:11
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Go out and look. If you're interested, if you say nuclear, oh my gosh, no way. It's so dangerous. Go look at what they're doing now with nuclear because the peri power nuclear power plants the three mile island almost big scare of the uh fukushima fukushima uh what was the other one uh the one in ukraine um chernobyl chernobyl yeah so that that was a that was a corrupt corrupt government well bad it was a bad design a corrupt government would commit you know you combined with the corrupt government yes
01:22:43
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And yeah, they found the bad design and because of the corrupt government, they kept ah reproducing it around the country. But my point is, all these plants were designed and used the same technology, whether it's Perry, whether it's Three Mile Island Chernobyl or Fukushima.
01:22:58
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They were all designed in the 50s and the 60s.
01:23:02
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They've come so far with technology nowadays with nuclear power plants. They've shrunk them down. They made them way safer. What was Fukushima was the largest one. I was way, I was worse than Chernobyl.
01:23:13
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no say no No, no, no, no, no. Not even close. Nobody died from Fukushima except for the people that went in to clean up. ah No, there's, there's people around that that got cancer and stuff, but yeah.
01:23:27
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you You may be right. I don't know. Whatever. most Most recent one, I should say. and what And also, they're taking they're talking, um they've been collecting all the water in Fukushima and put it storing in plants all the nuclear water they haven't let into the ocean.
01:23:43
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ah part part part of i'm ah i'm like um I'm going to the design, so let me just finish this. Go to the design. Fukushima had the generators in the basement. on a, on a power plant that was on the ocean.
01:23:55
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That's a bad design. That's a bad design. But, but overall that it was a, it was a, I think it, how to put it was a bad design for the location.
01:24:08
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It was a very, uh, good nuclear plant. It was just, they shouldn't have put it on the water like they did. but Most of them are though. um Right next to it. Yeah, but I think the the newer the newer technology, they don't have to be.
01:24:24
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Yes, that's where I was getting to. New technology doesn't rely a generator to keep the water flowing. Right. It relies on the power plant. you're at you You literally have a power plant. Why do you need backup generators?
01:24:37
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So they they've now designed them so that you don't need to have a generator running to keep power water flowing to to the reactor. That's always the problem. You lose power. You can't recycle the water, circulate the water, and it explodes. It overheats.
01:24:50
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So here's the death count to Fukushima. I just wanted to clear this up because a lot of people have this wrong. There was no direct deaths from it. There were more deaths.
01:25:02
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The direct deaths were ex death or actually from the tsunami, tsunami, and an earthquake. And none from radi theres no direct deaths from radiation exposure its so of the meltdown itself.
01:25:19
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And one attributed death to a worker in 2018 from lung cancer that she, I i remember Tim Pool talking about this because he knew her. ah She took them, ah him and, what's the Polish, oh Polish guy's name?
01:25:38
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Luke. Oh, Luke, yeah, Luke Krakowski. Yeah, they took him down into the... into the plant. She took them down and then she died in 2018.
01:25:49
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And actually the greater point to all this is if you look at deaths sources of energy, deaths for nuclear don't even, they don't even, they don't even, they can't even count them, they're so low.
01:26:02
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I mean, obviously they can, but when you compare it with coal or or any other oil, all this other stuff, it's not even close. get close So it's it's it's it is the safest and cleanest energy that we can do.
01:26:15
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Yeah, there's been there's been terrible accidents. Nobody died at Three Mile Island. and that was pretty That was contained pretty well. Yeah, there was almost no nothing let out. Three Mile Island was huge PR yeah yeah that's success.
01:26:29
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That was a ah PR success for the... Fundamental. Yeah, yep. Well, for the environmental for or for the energy ah companies, corporations.
01:26:40
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Yeah.
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01:26:42
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it It was is ridiculous. So we need to get back to nuclear and... I mean I think, I think the ah leader of Greenpeace quit because they refused to embrace nuclear.
01:26:54
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And he's now on a, he's been on a, like the past 10 years, he' been on a a war path to get nuclear back. Yeah. that It's the safest. It's the cleanest. They've ah figured out how to take all the nuclear waste and
01:27:09
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ah store it. Yep. And it it doesn't take up a lot of, I mean, just, okay. Yeah. All you would really have to do would, I forget how thick the walls would have to be and stuff, but you would have to take the nuclear waste, put it in a building the size of a Walmart.
01:27:26
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It would just be a brick enclosure, probably in the middle of so you know somewhere in the where there's a lot of rock Yeah, they tried to do this in Nevada. Yeah.
01:27:39
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You're in Nevada. Yeah. Well, I was thinking more like somewhere in Arkansas like we're around the... Yeah, they they ah they picked Yucca Mountain. Okay. My father used to live there years ago in Vegas, so he was pretty familiar with it. But they picked it for their but the geological reasons, for whatever they were.
01:27:58
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And that project has been abandoned. I mean, there's huge holes and caves inside Yucca Mountain, but they're not putting anything there. That was all. Well, i just I heard you could build ah basically a building size of Walmart yeah with 10-foot thick brick walls, basically, and store the stuff for like 100 Yeah.
01:28:19
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then reuse it. You could get rid of the stuff, you know, but, uh, no, they've successfully scared the crap out of everybody. And yeah, yeah it's it's totally doable and it's the safest and most energy green, efficient yeah energy out there. So, yeah.
01:28:37
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I say go nuclear, but anyway, yeah, they're, um, this ain't going anywhere. And, uh, I mean, I'm just, I just kind of get pissed when they, when I found out they tried to opt us all into this last year. That's such a, such a crap show. I mean, that's such a crap way to do it. I don't, it just makes me, it's, um, it's what government does.
01:29:00
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Yeah. It's all crap, Rob. All crap. Speaking of all crap. but when when When you hear the words West Nile virus, how does that make you feel, Tom?
01:29:15
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It doesn't make me feel anything. Does it scare you? Because there's West Nile virus. Officials say
01:29:23
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officials say 88 mosquitoes pools tested positive of West Nile virus in Portage County. And there was one confirmed human case. Yes, and... um Emergency.
01:29:36
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urge say Oh my gosh. So I was like, West Nava, what's the big deal? Like what? i This is something that has been around for a little while. You hear about every once in a while. They were spraying while ago. I don't think they do that anymore. I don't think they do.
01:29:49
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And then I go pull up this article. it's from news, WTAM news radio, which it's four sentences. So duh. But I guess they're a radio show, a radio place and not a yeah ah news outlet.
01:30:02
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but It's very short. let's But I did pull a... I didn't. I don't think there was a clip. No, there wasn't. I was looking at another... No,
01:30:16
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I did have a clip, actually, that I did not pull over. So that's okay, though. um The reason I was going to clip this was they brought up in the... Because pulled... It was another news channel. i think Channel 3.
01:30:29
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Channel 19, maybe, I was looking at. And, yep, Channel 3.
01:30:34
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They say, i think I could pull it from the article. um so I was like, well, what's how how concerned should we be about West Nile virus? Well, in the clip I pulled, it says, um oh, here it is.
01:30:49
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There are are usually no symptoms of West Nile virus. um Usually you feel a little ill. You get a little headache, little backache, and maybe some sniffles.
01:31:00
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But majority of people are asymptomatic and don't even know they have it. But if you do get it, you may get a high-grade fever, back pain, body aches, and headaches and chills.
01:31:13
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So... Freak out, everybody! 80% don't develop any... Yeah. But how you can ah help get... I mean, just keep mosquitoes off you anyway because they're annoying is you can use something with, you know, a bug repellent with DEET in it.
01:31:30
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oh Don't look up health effects from DEET, you're probably better off getting bit by a mosquito. But um that is one of the things that also helps actually um side effect that also helps you keep ticks off you, which is probably way more yeah way more of a threat than a mosquito.
01:31:46
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Yeah. yeah lyme Lyme disease and such. And then I also thought, well, what happens when we go around and and like get rid of all the mosquitoes?
01:31:57
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Is it something called food chain?
01:32:01
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Yeah, don't, well, bats. Bats, I mean, a lot of larger. You want bats. Yeah, larger, larger. Birds. Birds and everything else eat mosquitoes and stuff. So you get rid of, start cutting the bottom of the food chain. you start hurting the rest of the food chain.
01:32:17
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So got to keep eye that. So, yeah, you know, they say eliminate standing water. they theyre they're They're collecting mosquitoes, testing them, and help trying to help residents get rid of the standing water and stuff
Ohio Driving Laws and Parental Influence
01:32:30
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that.
01:32:30
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So freak out, everybody. Dragonflies, damn... Damself flies. I never heard of that. Mosquito, hawks, and spiders.
01:32:43
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Birds. Fish. Amphibians. Frogs. Tadpoles. but bats Bats and turtles. I didn't think turtles would, but they do. Yeah, how's that slow little turtle supposed to get a... I think they got a pretty wicked tongue. yeah I think. I don't know i don't even know.
01:33:02
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mr She said... um Good one. I'm hoping hoping this next clip is the is the the actual clip now that I missed that one. But next story.
01:33:13
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everybody freak out. West Nile.
01:33:17
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but Next story is the one that you sent over my way. So thank you for sending me this because i I thought, I remember reading this that was in the budget. i don't know how much we talked about it, but I do have a up and coming driver right in the family.
01:33:29
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And in the last budget bill, they passed some new rules and regulations for new drivers. Anyone under 21 has to now, you are mandatory.
01:33:41
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It's mandatory for you to take driving class. Yeah, it was 18 before. Now it's 21. I was 18 and under before. Ah, so these, that's right. that's So it just raised those. Yeah, okay.
01:33:52
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Yeah, which i I took a, I can't believe they don't offer that in school anymore, but, because I just took it in high school, driver's class. But now you have to take it if you're under 21, not, before it was, if you turned 18, you could just take the test without taking a yeah course. Ah, right.
01:34:10
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No, that's actually probably a, okay, let's see what the, I pulled a clip. Let me see what it says. I'm not sure why I did, but see. A new Ohio law passed that was passed back in June will go into effect in one month, making some changes for potential drivers and whether they have to take educational courses.
01:34:27
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Two News Report, Evan Bales, has more on what this law will mean. year olds who may have been considering getting their license by just taking The
01:34:39
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anyone trying to get their driver's license under the age of twenty one will now have to fulfill the education requirements for obtaining their license number one killer of young people teenagers and young adults are car crashes This was the rationale behind this provision of House Bill 96, set to go into effect at the end of September.
01:34:58
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In Ohio since 2020, 600 people have been killed in teen-related accidents, with 200,000 crashes being caused overall. That's a total of 14% of all crashes in Ohio. Our basic goal is for saving young lives to prevent the tragedies that many of us have seen these families go through.
01:35:17
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Driving schools are expecting an influx of new drivers. They and other driving schools are trying new methods to accommodate people's needs. There's virtual learning. And so that covers a lot of these students that maybe live in outlying areas that don't have the transportation to get to our location, but they can still get the same instruction and still interact with the instructor. Other people I spoke with have some mixed reactions to the new law.
01:35:39
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People who are using their license to work. Delivery people, energetic, hardworking young people, I wouldn't want to discourage them. So there are exceptions. Yeah, i think it's pretty fair.
01:35:50
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People should be always like trying to, I don't know, be safe on the road and try and get their driver's license. Just out of like utility. So I think it's fair. This new law is set to go into effect on September 30th.
01:36:03
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but Somebody was like... more information, you can... Somebody was like, we need 45 seconds on this. Put anything you can in there. Let's put an old guy who made no sense and a young kid who made no sense.
01:36:15
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Because, you know, you want to want, you know, people who use it for, use license for work. Yeah. Okay. So they can't take a, no, take a dang class.
01:36:26
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You know, I think an 18 year old shouldn't have to. ah really don't. Yeah. I mean, I want them to trust me. I want them to, but I don't think they should have to. They're adult.
01:36:39
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They're an adult. They legal they might not... they might Well, okay, but no, they are. i know, you're right, literally. No, they are. We're babying these people too much. I mean, they could be out on their own with a family already or ah started a family by accident, like the way it should happen. i don't disagree.
01:36:59
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its just how How it's happening now is not is not that way because we're babying them. Yeah, we're babying them. i mean i You know, it's like... You know, I'm guilty of this too. I'll be like, somebody will be like, oh yeah, I'm 28. I'm like, oh, you're still a baby.
01:37:14
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and And it's, they're not, they're adults. They should have a family at this point in their house and a house and we're treating them like children. When you're 18, you should be able to go get your license without taking the test.
01:37:28
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I don't think it's a good idea. I think if you want to be safe and if you want to know what you're doing, you should take the test. But you shouldn't. You shouldn't. Okay. Okay. Don't disagree. I just don't know. Okay. you know You know what? If you live at home, you have to take the test.
01:37:46
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but Let's. eleven I just. ah Not a bad idea, actually. No, it's it's to me. It's like the gun law. You you shouldn't have to wait till you're 21 to go buy a gun. What if you're a single mother living in an apartment and you want to protect your protect your family?
01:38:03
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hmm. No, no, this is BS. this is This is us... ah I forget what the word is. I'm sorry, but it's... Helicopter parenting. it's he and Well, it's not even helicopter. It's keeping our kids... It's result of helicopter parenting. Yeah, it's a result of it. It's us keeping adults, children for way longer.
01:38:27
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Way longer than they ought to be. Pretty soon it's going to be like, oh, 21's not old enough. 24. 24. Then it's, you know, it's ridiculous at this point.
01:38:39
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Oh, good point. i I do like that. ah I just... Hmm. Yeah. When I was 18, I... yeah It's a parenting problem more than it is a... Well, yeah. you First of all, when when they when they turn 16, you should have your childl child learning how to drive. Okay?
01:38:58
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Secondly, maybe maybe they can. Maybe it's a... um Maybe they're from a foster parents or from a, ah ah you know... um Yeah, a broken home or whatever. You know, whatever. a single parent that can't afford a car, you know, that doesn't have a car. Maybe they don't have a car.
01:39:15
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You know, maybe they take the bus everywhere. But, okay,
01:39:20
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if you pass the test, you can drive. i mean... It's not perfect, but you're you're stepping on... i know driving is a privilege, but it's still you're making children babies for... You're making adults babies.
01:39:38
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That's a good take. It's interesting take. I like it. No, it's the pussification of America. But in meantime...
01:39:51
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Kids are dying, Tom. What are you talking about? Well, I mean, um I was just being... They're killing people with their shitty driving. But but it is if they they are high percentage of the wrecks. I can see the i could see the concern.
01:40:04
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But it is government overreach. I do it like that. Actually, i would it's way over, oh um too much overreach. And it says teens, teen-related accidents. There have been 600 people killed with teen-related accidents since 2020. Well, okay, but 18 and under?
01:40:21
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eighteen and under Or 21 and under. is that?
01:40:28
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You said 600? 600. So that's 100 a year. want it be zero. But teen-related accidents. So you're at point 18-year-olds under 18. Yeah.
01:40:38
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teen-related accidents so you're at this point making eighteen year olds ah under eighteen So are you worried about the 18, 19-year-olds?
01:40:50
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They're not telling you if these people took a test or took a class. Is it a bunch of 15-year-olds that just got their, like you know fit well I don't know, what is it? Yeah, you could have got your license at 16, taken the test, then got in an accident at 20.
01:41:03
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Yeah, you're not telling me shit here. Yeah, that's that's actually a really good one, too. Yeah, we don't know.
01:41:11
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Well, 200,000 crashes overall. Yeah, we don't know. I mean, that doesn't mean ah a lot of these kids didn't or the young adults. lot of them could have taken the test. I would say a lot of them did. would imagine most of them got their but license before 18.
01:41:26
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I would say the majority of them probably would. I would think most most kids do. I know the trend for, i think I think the trend's actually going back now to what it was like when we were younger.
01:41:38
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But I think the trend for a while was like kids just not caring to drive. But I i think that's turning around. But can you kick these kids in the ass, get them in the car, get them to learn how to drive. If you can.
01:41:52
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If you can't, I mean, why are you going to stop an 18-year-old from getting their license? I mean, an 18-year-old that just had a baby, your parents kicked her out, or she just came out of foster care somehow.
01:42:06
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eight she needs ah She needs a car to get to work. I mean, what the... Who knows? One of the guys said that, and his point was like, I don't...
01:42:20
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he made it sound like they were truck drivers. Well, he made it sound like they use it to, for, if you use it for work, then it's going to stop you from using it for work. I don't, I don't, I don't necessarily agree with that.
01:42:31
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Just, yeah, it's going to take, it's going to be harder to get it. I think that's kind of what they're trying to do. but Well, what do you, okay. So put some barriers in so that you can be educated before you start driving. but yeah Okay. You got to take a test, don't you?
01:42:46
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Yeah. Okay. But that, that test is, A written test doesn't... For me, a written test doesn't do... it Does ah very little for... I've never heard of anybody just taking a written test. Is that a thing?
01:42:58
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no You take a written test, and then you take the driving test. But again, even the physical driving test is... You know, it gives you a kind of an idea, but I don't know. I know plenty of people that failed it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's it's obviously failable, but i don't I don't see that as good.
01:43:18
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I don't think it i've i I haven't taken it in forever. I guess we'll see when my daughter takes it. But is is that the end all be all to to determining whether someone's a good driver or not? The simple test where you go down the street four blocks, turn around and come back.
01:43:31
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That's kind of what I did. I don't know. Yeah, that's what I basically too. And then you to the cones. You know, you go to the cones. the The park, yeah, the cone thing, the parking thing. But, ah you know, I got points knocked off, which I learned from, because like i when I made a left, I cut the turn a little, little you know, which ah there was no traffic coming from the left side, but i I did cut the corner, and I didn't even realize I was just turning, you know.
01:43:58
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you know, And I see adults doing that all the time, and it still drives me crazy because I got points knocked off of that, and I i avoid doing it now. I'm 50 years old, so what what the hell? i'm you know Almost 30-some years later, i'm ah it' still i still remember that.
01:44:20
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and I didn't learn that much from the from the driving school class that I took. No? Not really. what What do you learn? Well, I don't know. I mean, I can't see how you were learning more from the 10 minutes in the car with the with the tester than you did. you you should you have you have to get your temp first, and then you should have some, ah some I guess, driving...
01:44:48
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Can an 18-year-old get that without a temp? I don't know. You have to start with temps. Well, I don't know. Does an 18-year-old, or can they just go get their license?
01:45:01
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I don't remember, actually. That's good question. i don't know. I thought you had to have, don't I thought you needed a few hours under your... ah Yeah, you might not be at 18. You might just be able to get just a license or off the bat.
01:45:12
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But either way, it's government overreach in my in my opinion. I don't know. um I'm on the driving. Isn't that freaking hard? i mean, maybe for some, I mean, there's some Asians out there, man. Have you noticed that?
01:45:24
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Oh, it's usually just, well, nevermind. It's usually when I see somebody, it's probably the female gender. But anyway, I, I Asian female, I think the worst bad.
01:45:38
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Uh, I, I feel as a car is deadlier than a firearm.
01:45:47
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Yeah. In a lot of cases. Not obviously. Not every case, but there are a lot more of them out And a firearm is a, ah you know, it's a right. It's not a privilege. Well, yes. And this isn't this is not one of those.
01:46:00
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it is It is a privilege. I don't know. I'm i kind of on the fence. I can see the advantage of... You're on the fence because you have a child that's about to start driving. Well, she was already going to take classes regardless. Well, I understand that, but that that's why, because you see what ah a like.
01:46:17
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Yeah, and they're not a whole lot different. I mean, I've seen a lot of 18-year-olds, too. no but i don't know. 18-year-olds It is up to parenting. but Oh, absolutely, yeah. And I think you're right on. You're spot on with the with the helicopter and the the participation trophies. This is where we've come to. And and the lack of...
01:46:37
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Is it a lack of the parents taking their kids out? i mean, that's like where you're saying, that's where you get most of your instruction is, is driving with your parents on the, on the, on the job training is for lack of a better term. You know, me taking the car out when I was 14 illegally with my parent in the car taught me more than when I was taking the class, you know?
01:47:00
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Yeah. I mean, I wasn't supposed to do that, but you know, whatever the, but My dad saw how much I wanted to drive, so he walked me through it.
01:47:11
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Driving is not fucking hard. Oh, sorry. Not hard. Just got to be mindful and be aware of what's around you and understand the traffic laws.
01:47:27
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And they're not that difficult to understand unless you're an Indian.
01:47:33
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Unless you're an Indian immigrant who doesn't speak English and decides to do a U-turn on the freeway. Yeah, with the semi. With your semi, yes. Kill a family of three. All right, well, it is it is the law now.
01:47:47
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and it was It was in the budget. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But hey, I mean, to to our point is these big bills, I mean, all of a sudden, three months later, you start finding out all these
Cuyahoga River's Transformation
01:47:56
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things that are in it. And we kind of knew this was coming, but...
01:47:59
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You know, I don't have kids, and my kids would have, you know, if I did have kids, they would definitely be driving because i I'm not going to be their chauffeur forever. So, you know, and to me, it wouldn't have mattered too much, but I do think this is a bit of overreach.
01:48:16
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i can I can see that for sure. And on that note, we come to the end of our crappy stories, and we move into our favorite segment, Good Things.
01:48:28
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We bring good things to life. What a way to go into that. and know. We're chock full of good things today. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Uh, I start with, I guess, uh, well, heck did that go? I start with Cuyahoga river considering our show is aptly named in reference to the Cuyahoga river.
01:48:52
Speaker
The Cuyahoga river was just named, uh, on the national water trail status, uh, recognized on the national water trail as a, uh, as a place to go. It's, it's on the list now as a, um, what consider it now?
01:49:07
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Uh, named It was named a National Water Trail. that's what It is fire safe now. is is safe of fire, at least for the time being. And they have a subclass of National Trail System, a 41-long stretch of the Cog River extending from Summit County to Lake Erie earned its designation from the U.S. s Department of Interior in June. um You know, to talk about the transformation last 10 years or more. um You know,
01:49:39
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In case most didn't know, Cog River has a troubled, polluted past, catching on fire. Most people like remember the 1969, but it had caught on fire 13 times before 1969 fire. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah.
01:49:54
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And the 1969 fire, what did it do? ah created It led to the creation of EPA and the Clean Water Act. So guess whose fault it is? It's Ohio's fault.
01:50:07
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It's Ohio's fault. So EP, i remember I remember hearing about this when I watched documentaries and stuff on the Akaga River burning, but there was on the cusp, and this was the final straw that pushed public sentiment to be in favor of the EPA and the Clean Water Act. They were pushing it, and this helped them ah over the finish line, as you say.
01:50:29
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um So, you know, kudos on them. They're really changing, especially down in the flats area where it used to be very industrial. Below Tower City, if you look if you're in Cleveland, there's a river down there and there's a bunch of stuff down there. they're putting and The Cavs started, I think, some of it, at least. They're putting in their new their training facilities moving from Independence, Ohio to but downtown Cleveland.
01:50:52
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And and therere they're making it so you can actually kayak and stuff in it. Still might wear some protective equipment.
01:51:04
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protective gear, but there, you know, we I think we've had some stories where they put in more, um cal river I think where they put in more like entryways so you can get your small boats and kayaks and stuff in the river.
Ohio Fall Foliage and Cultural Events
01:51:16
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Yeah. We did a story on that um a short while ago. So, I mean, great. I mean, I'm not, we're, you know, making fun of it, but really not. It's, it's a good, It's a good thing. It needs to be clean. It should not burn. Rivers generally should not burn.
01:51:27
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um And good for them. So check it out if you if that's your thing, nature walks and that kind of stuff. They're doing all kinds of stuff down there. I just clicked on the link, and it's really amazing.
01:51:40
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I mean, imagine that how this river flows. I mean, we're called the Crooked River Cast, if you haven't figured it out. And it's named after the, we call ourselves after the, Cuyahoga means crooked, right?
01:51:52
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Yeah, that's what they say. Yeah, that's what they say. yeah But just just how it meanders through Ohio. It runs north and south. Yeah, it's amazing. It goes down and back up, dumps into Lake Erie.
01:52:05
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Yeah, something like that. don't know. But yeah, and it's come a long way. A lot of work. um You know, e EPA does have does do some good things. They're just, they're usually, at this point, a little bit out of control in some cases.
01:52:20
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But here's a good thing. Here's a good thing. Yeah. So check it out. If you're into kayaking and stuff, you know, check out the Cuyahoga River. And if you've got any feedback, send us an email. i like to know how dirty it is, how clean it is, I should say.
01:52:36
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Next on our list...
01:52:40
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Can't go any farther. Check. i again We will put this in the show notes and on the website, rivercast.com. ah Where to catch the best fall colors.
01:52:52
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A leaf peeping guide Cleveland and beyond. So this is basically a lot of the good places you can go the coming weeks to to look at the fall foliage. And it's quickly creeping upon us.
01:53:06
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Leaves will be changing if they aren't already. I think they might already be. i think that the peak time, is it always depends on the what weather. There's a couple weeks October usually, isn't it? oh it could It could be around the 20th of October or as early as like around the 10th.
01:53:22
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Okay. You know, it it just depends on the temperatures and how much rain and all that. Yeah. but i I think the colder we end up being, the quicker it comes. I believe so. but But I think it has something to do with how much rain we're getting at the time. yeah. I've had a lot.
01:53:37
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I, we, like me and my wife usually like to take our take a Sunday ride and, and just go to ah one of these locations and enjoy the scenery. but um,
01:53:50
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And we seem to miss it every year, like the peak. you know like Once in a while, we'll catch it, but ah most of the time, it's hard to catch, so you really have to pay attention. Yeah, I did. The other thing is, it's different here.
01:54:03
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if you're going to go to southern Ohio, like drive towards the south, it's it's going to look different than it does... up here even a a hundred miles difference will you'll you'll see a huge difference in the color of them maybe more green more more colors less colors so they've got all kinds of places around here plunderson state park shaker lakes uh nelson's ledges mohican and uh you know in some rocky river and cauga valley national parks on so forth so we'll put this link in there you can check it out and plan ahead.
01:54:34
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And that way when you, when you see the the leaves getting to that right color, you can jump right on it and know exactly where to go. That's the other thing. If you're like into photography and you want to really capture a nice scene, it's ah your timing. Like you really have to,
01:54:49
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You really have to be on the ready to get out there at at its peak. We did a trip years ago before we had kids to Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway in October, beginning October, and we hit it almost perfectly on the leaves.
01:55:03
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it was It was some of the most gorgeous scenery, and I'm sure it had nothing of to do with all the wine wineries we stopped at. It had nothing to do with it. Because if you've ever known Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway is pretty close to where Sonoma is and, or Sedona?
01:55:20
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That's Sedona in California where all the wine. believe you're sure it's Sedona. No. No. Sedona is in Arizona. That's it. but what's So what's Sonoma Valley? What's the one in California where they have all the wineries?
01:55:33
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Anyway. If you look at the globe, they're all kind of the same. It's Napa Valley. Napa Valley. They do have a Sedona, I think, somewhere up north. Or Sedona? Sonoma. Sonoma. Sonoma.
01:55:46
Speaker
That whole... You're trying to trick me. From Napa Valley ah all the way up to freaking Washington is... There's some great wineries out there. If I remember correctly, they had mentioned one of the reasons it's they have a lot of wineries in the Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway. It's in a similar um location like location as far as climate-wise.
01:56:04
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Yeah, they got the ocean breezes. And if you look at France, you come across the ocean and follow it through the United States. It's right in that same longitudinal latitude, whatever they call Gotcha. So as a similar climate, so it's good for, um, good for wine growing and there's tons of wineries there you can go through, but yeah, beautiful. You drive through, oh man, it was so gorgeous.
01:56:22
Speaker
Yeah. I got a couple of, couple of nice speaking of photography. That's reminded me of. I actually printed a canvas. Nice. Uh, it's pretty nice. Um, so check it out. We'll put it on the website.
01:56:34
Speaker
Like the fall colors are coming up next. I mean, maybe not my cup of tea, but I know some of us might. ah I'm going to put a list up on the website, a link in the show notes, I should say, ah for the eight plays and musicals to see this fall in Northeast Ohio Regional Theaters.
01:56:52
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So it's a list of all what's going to be coming up in. So they've got Cleveland Playhouse. They've got Weathervane Playhouse, Near West Side Theater. and all the plays and and um schedules they have for each play. I'm trying to there's anything.
01:57:11
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ah Sista's the musical. Is that the Camarou House? Camarou House? Is that Caramoo? Caramoo House. don't know. so yeah Never been there. and Never heard of it, actually. Sunday in the Park with George is at Great Lakes Theater.
01:57:27
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Clegg Playhouse? Wow. Never heard of Clegg. There's a Clay. Westlake. The mouse. Oh yeah. Clay Playhouse. There it is.
01:57:40
Speaker
Andy War, Andy Warhol in Iran. That's at Beck Center of Arts. That's in Lakewood. So overrated. We'll put this up on there. If it something interests you, you know, take a look and they start probably looking at the next couple of weeks, all these fall seasons start. September 11th was one, September 7th for the Cleveland Playhouse. So they're coming up ah this week. there's Some of them are starting. So check it out. Something interests you.
01:58:12
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We'll put it up there for you. Last but definitely not least,
01:58:18
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You sent me 2025 festivals in Ohio.
01:58:24
Speaker
Yeah, I don't, but we're we're going to put up the link in our website. There's too many to go through, but you got all the Oktoberfests and all of this is this is all throughout, ah starting from ah Ashland or Akron going all the way to Worcester. So there's all kinds of festivals going Ashland, Barberton, Berea, Brunswick, Cleveland, there's all, Coggo Falls, Eastlake, Kent, on and on and on. So it's,
01:58:49
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Most communities have one of these Oktoberfests or a Fall Fest pumpkins and Oktoberfest or what's the ale they call it?
01:59:02
Speaker
Yeah, Oktoberfest. That's it. Get your German beer and pumpkins. That's the key, I guess. You know, it's a, yeah, there's a Halloween drive-thru in Kirtland. Oh, yeah, that looks cool. Cool stuff.
01:59:14
Speaker
And then, of course, the Halloween time's coming up. Spooky pooch parade in Lakewood. What's the cleanup like after that? Jeez, oh, man. That's got to be so gay.
01:59:29
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i wish I had a... Wait, I do.
01:59:33
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I do have one. Okay. ah Yeah, all kinds of stuff. Wooster, geez, there's a ton of them. So check it out. It will put up in the show notes at crookedrivercast.com. um And just one last thank you for listening. We really appreciate everybody.
Podcast Conclusion
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02:00:05
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