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Crooked River Cast Show 38
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- Trump cancels Biden Autopen orders but which ones?
- Job numbers report and how they tie into AI and data centers.
- Does Ohio have a data center problem?
- Dayton teacher under investigation for breaking up a classroom fight.
Critter Corner:
- HB 554 to require acceptance of cash.
- SB 309 could add steps to get popular abortion pill.
- HB 324 Prevent mail order Telehealth appointments for certain meds.
- HB 485 Baby Olivia Act.
- Lorain approves purchase of more police drones.
- Woke Cleveland Hts. Church’s “racial repair”.
- City of Cleveland is ready to say goodbye to the Browns.
- Lakefront airport won’t go without a fight.
- Browns fans in shock… LOL
Good things:
- Ohio lottery winner $2M on a scratch off.
- Where to see the best Christmas lights.
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Transcript
Introduction to Crooked Rivercast
00:00:12
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Crooked Rivercast. I Robert joining me every week is Tom and we are two guys from North East Ohio trying to figure out what the word plenary means. This is show 38 recorded on December 2025.
00:00:27
Speaker
Another week has gone by we've got some stuff to discuss.
Robert's Snowstorm Adventure
00:00:31
Speaker
Let's do it. Every time I...
00:00:41
Speaker
I picked this week to make a two-hour drive to Columbus four hours. Oh, well, that's an interesting take. Yeah, I decided to do it on Tuesday during the snowstorm.
00:00:53
Speaker
Oh, nice. It did take me about double time to get to work. Literally almost took me four hours. Yeah. I said, you know, I'll leave early. I'll leave at like quarter to five. You probably should have waited to eight, right? Exactly. that's where was but I was meeting someone down there.
00:01:09
Speaker
Had a big meeting, but you know, nice important meeting kind of. And I had some other stuff that but I had to do down there. And I get some material to some people. And so was kind of, you know, there's six inches of snow on the freeway.
00:01:24
Speaker
It's a good time to sit back and put on some podcasts. But yeah, because that's basically what I got caught up on a couple of things, especially on my no agendas. But yeah, good.
00:01:35
Speaker
But after a while, I had to pause it because it was a white knuckle for a little bit. Yeah. So I left early because I had somebody to meet somebody early in the morning, which I was late for because I planned on being there meeting him at 730. I think it was nine.
00:01:50
Speaker
And ah my my coworker who was meeting me down there.
00:01:56
Speaker
I called him halfway, past Mansfield, I think I was. And I called him, I said, going to make it? Because you're not leaving until 8. So we started discussing it. And we looked at the radar and figured it was going to clear up. I got back on the freeway.
00:02:10
Speaker
sorry catch up So by the time he got down, roads were clear. Not a problem. Yeah. Yeah, that's how it goes, right? Yeah, it's just I just hit it right.
00:02:21
Speaker
and was like, literally, I left the house at like 10 to 5. like So much for leaving early, right? Yeah. i was like, I'll leave like 10, 15 minutes early, and I punched it in. the I'm like, what?
00:02:32
Speaker
Three hours and 40 minutes? Yeah. Well, guess nothing I can do about it. It just took my time, you know. And really, the snow wasn't the problem. It was drivers. It was everybody else, like.
00:02:45
Speaker
You know, when you're when you're when you're going down a dip and the the road is completely covered and it's at least six inches of snow and more in other areas as, you know, snow pushes over, tires push it and pile it up over here and don't slow down.
00:02:59
Speaker
yeah You go down a dip and then everybody starts, oh, I'm going to off the gas and then start tapping their brakes and I'm like, You're not going to be able to get up the hill. It's even that big of a hill, but you're completely covered in snow.
00:03:11
Speaker
I almost had to put my truck in four-wheel drive on the freeway. I actually did put mine in four-wheel drive. I have. i you Usually I don't. and Yeah, you don't have to. But ah that morning i did getting i did right before I got on the highway. And the traffic was it was actually a pretty decent drive. It was just slow.
00:03:34
Speaker
Yeah. Usually the worst thing is i thought it was too slow, you know, but I wasn't, I wasn't, there was no room to really get around people or anything. So whatever you kick back, put on some ah news or whatever and take, drive 25 miles an hour on the highway.
00:03:53
Speaker
Yeah. Usually the worst thing is when there's people that are, There's somebody too slow and then there's somebody too, you know, there's people going too fast. And ah this this time, it it was I thought everybody was a little too slow. We could have done, um could eat you know, easily bumped it up to 35 miles an hour.
00:04:14
Speaker
As long as you keep a little bit of distance, I guess. Yeah. Yes, that's that's the key is there really should be no reason that you need to tap your brakes in most cases. Right, right.
00:04:25
Speaker
Everybody's going slow enough. And if you keep enough space, you should be able let off and just this coast. I was behind a guy in a truck who, I don't know what he was doing. We started up this a little incline. And again, a little incline when there's a bunch of snow on the road.
00:04:36
Speaker
starts to get but he'd he just kept like it sound It looked like he just kept hammering the gas and just... getting the truck to go say here's a pickup truck get the truck to go sideways and then he stopped and he then he'd get the truck to go sideways and i'm like what the heck are you doing so he finally got over and got out of my way and i was like i'm getting away from you dude i don't know what i guess i i i guess i Well, I mean, if it was a two-wheel drive truck, that's what's going to happen is as soon as you add a little bit of gas to your... Yeah, the tires is a point. It might be. It was like a newer truck, so I don't know. But um i I was in two-wheel drive.
00:05:14
Speaker
so that actually there That's actually a point. Maybe it was just factory tires. I was going to say, the factory tires are suck. I mean, those things wear out in 20,000 miles. I mean, as far as snow is concerned.
00:05:26
Speaker
Maybe that was I just thought the guy was messing around. And then when I'm like, why are you doing that on the freeway? No, no, that's one of the reasons I put it in four wheel drive. Cause I, my, I got pretty, my tires usually handle snow. It must've been slick underneath the snow. Like, like, ah you know, a little bit more slick than normal. Cause my tires, even without four wheel drive to pretty well.
00:05:48
Speaker
And, um, i'm I'm driving and every time I get you know add a little bit of gas, I'm just, ah I am fishtailing a little bit. So I put it in four wheel drive. It took care of that. But I was surprised i was doing because my tires are, I think they only got, a i don't know, 6,000, 7,000 miles on them.
00:06:10
Speaker
Yes. About what I have on mine, though i got mine a lot farther after yours, but they're well worth the money on Tuesday. Yeah. The money there. Yeah.
00:06:31
Speaker
I thought I lost you. thought I lost you. No. You started breaking up. It was weird. Yeah, we got some cloud flare warning this morning on podcast and set up. So we'll see how this works out. But besides the ah crazy snow, but what's what do you got going on this week?
Tom's Blues Concert Experience
00:06:49
Speaker
Anything happen this week? Oh, yeah. Thursday, we went to my wife and I went to a show yeah at the Music Box Supper Club in the flats Cleveland Flats. Oh.
00:07:01
Speaker
Who'd you see? ah We saw a legendary blues band called the Nighthawks, which I don't think they, he mentioned the singer Mark Wenner, who's ah who's the leader of the band. he's he's he's I'm assuming he's like the guy who founded the band.
00:07:17
Speaker
Anyways, he um he said the last time he saw the flats, it didn't look like this. And he mentioned a couple of clubs. I don't think he's been in Cleveland since the 80s. So when I saw they were coming around, i was like, I got to go see them.
00:07:29
Speaker
And i use I've seen them a few times just because my band back in the 90s used to travel a bit. And we used to go down to Florida for Daytona Bike Week and Oktoberfest Bike Week.
00:07:45
Speaker
And we always crossed paths. So we would always go stop and see them wherever they were playing. And usually was nearby. mean, they're just awesome.
00:07:56
Speaker
Mark Wenner is probably, i would say he's hitting, has be around 70 or a little bit past 70 and lost a little bit of his timbre and his voice, but man, he plays harmonica. and I can't believe how he, it takes a lot of lung capacity to blow harp the way he does. So he's still able to do that.
00:08:17
Speaker
And the band sounded good, too. good Good time. they go Nice venue sounded good. Yeah, the venue sounded great. the It's the first time I've been there. You know, Music Box Supper Club, I've been wanting to go there. and I missed a couple of shows I wanted to see that were national acts.
00:08:34
Speaker
Like, ah similar to this one, kind of more of a smaller-based blues type of thing. And I miss those shows. But I've been wanting to go there. They just feature a lot of...
00:08:46
Speaker
Oh, gosh. They have a lot of bands there that kind of like tribute bands. Oh, okay. And i try I tend to avoid those. So um nothing against them. It's just it's not what I want to see.
00:09:00
Speaker
No, you don't want to see covers. You want to see original. Yeah, but it's it's called the Supper Club. you You get like a dining table. You make... you you mi You buy the tickets and then you make reservations. You don't have to eat, but we got there, you know, a hour and a half before the show and had dinner and decent food. You know, nothing spectacular, but better than average, that's for sure.
00:09:22
Speaker
And that's dinner and one had some music like that. and Yeah. Nice table to sit at. And yeah, yeah. You're, you're, on you know, you're only 20 feet from the, from the stage. It's a really nice setup. I, I, ah I enjoyed it very much.
00:09:38
Speaker
ah yeah I hope to hope other bands come around that I want to see there. Yeah, I'd be interested in that too. It just sounds like a good time, actually. Yeah, real good. How about you? Anything else?
Listener Feedback on Beatles Recommendation
00:09:50
Speaker
I mean, you know, just, uh, white knuckle rides to Columbus. Um, we got some feedback. We got a little feed. So if you're, uh, we, we, we had asked last week, I think it was, um, got my, my 11 year old daughter wanting a CD player for Christmas.
00:10:04
Speaker
I asked for, asked for the listener feedback on, you know, what kind of, kind of CDs I should get or what, you know, what bands or whatever. And we had mentioned, had a friend of mine had mentioned, uh, the Beatles greatest hits volume one.
00:10:15
Speaker
Right. So we had uh,
00:10:22
Speaker
Mr. ah Captain Canoe sent us an email. Gave us some feedback. is His senses were spot on. But it brings up a good point about albums.
00:10:36
Speaker
About new music for for somebody, if you're trying to give them a bass or a ah music history kind of. Not greatest hits. ah Just looking for a something to turn them on to.
00:10:49
Speaker
Yeah. yeah not not and with Especially with these classic bands, his his opinion was, you know, greatest hits are great, but if you're depending on what you're looking to do with with the CD or how you want to um approach it, his recommendation is full albums, especially with these late classics.
00:11:08
Speaker
that's the way they were designed to be listened to. Yeah. at this point. Yeah. And I and i couldn't, i I kind of almost did a palm, you know, face palm to face kind of, no kidding, does. which You and I talked about this many times. Like part of the problem, a lot of problems with today's music is it's single, single, single.
00:11:24
Speaker
There's no construction of an album or... I kind of remember saying, like, I get what your friend was saying about the greatest hits Beatles album, but I... You did say that. Yeah, I was kind of like, eh, you know, I mean, it's cool. it's ah It's cool if you just want to turn them on to some Beatles stuff, but it's not an album experience.
00:11:43
Speaker
Yeah. i didn' And I didn't, i didn't um you know, I didn't articulate it like that, and I'm glad the Captain Canoe... emailed us and kind of articulated it in a better way.
00:11:55
Speaker
So it it is, I mean, you you know, you want your kid to hear Pink Floyd. I mean, you're going to give a best of Pink Floyd going to give them Dark Side of the Moon. you know? Right. Yeah. You're going to give them wish you were here or, you know, those those are all albums they've it constructed. And and and speculat especially back then, they they took a lot of bands, correct me if I'm wrong, took a lot of time and effort to put these in order, ah certain order a lot of times to still tell their story or how they were feeling during the this kind of stuff. I just saw, on a tangent, but I just saw Rick Beato's Flea interview from Red Hot Chili Peppers.
00:12:32
Speaker
Oh, okay. i what I mean, The persona of Flea is just this crazy maniac. Yeah. This guy, this guy is, I mean, he broke down a couple of times talking about music and people. Is he sensitive guy?
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, but he just, he loves music. And what I, what I actually came around from the watching the interview is if he was, if they had Adderall and those kind of pills for kids, we wouldn't had Red Hot Chili Peppers.
00:13:04
Speaker
right they wouldve he he would have been on He would have been so medicated ah because he's just talking about his talking about his use and the way he was. He's a very fidgety person and this and that. And the music is what got him grounded and focused him.
00:13:18
Speaker
Well, absolutely. I think you should take anybody that, and if you have a child and they're young and the doctor's telling them, put him on Ritalin or whatever, you know, SSRI type of thing, it'd be like, no, no, no, no. I'm going to go find something that this kid loves to do because he's going to dive into it.
00:13:36
Speaker
Most likely. Yeah. it's It's at least a good start or try at least before you have to put them on. If you try two or three things, it really would be a last resort for me. But um but just, um he has mentioned you know that kind of stuff, like what you know what band you know the the way they lay stuff out in bands like that in the 90s and 80s and 70s. I think it's really important, so it's a great point. But also, I now can't get this out of my head.
00:14:04
Speaker
We're all on the same boat, fellas. But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun. Yeah. I mean, his shenanigans are cruel and tragic. Which makes them not shenanigans at all, really.
00:14:15
Speaker
Evil shenanigans. I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy that says shenanigans. Wait, wait for it. Hey, Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
00:14:29
Speaker
You mean shenanigans? No. You don't like shenanigans, right? Put those away. <unk> there They got their pistols out and they're handing it to the chief. fisal li um That was, ah who emailed us that?
00:14:42
Speaker
That was Captain Canoe. He mentioned that. No, no, no, no. No, that no wasn't no it wasn't. You're right. you That was J-Stroke. Oh, yeah. J-Stroke. Okay. You're right. I got that. Yeah. when he When he emailed that, I read that. I was like...
00:14:54
Speaker
Oh yeah. I used that word without realizing I probably, that's probably where i that's probably after I saw that it's probably where I started using it. I love the words shenanigan. and love the word shenanigan. It's, it's, so it sums it up so well. So well, we have to look at the history of that. Maybe one point where that came from, not now, cause we're already way too far down the rat hole.
00:15:14
Speaker
Oh, we can keep going. I know we could keep going, but well Tom, we've got some news.
Analyzing Political Moves: Trump vs. Biden
00:15:19
Speaker
got some news. Uh, ah President Trump um would like to cancel anything that President Biden did with an auto pen.
00:15:32
Speaker
That's our that's our topper for the national story. really So I put in the notes, Trump cancels auto pen orders, but which ones? Because I got two stories here. One says he's going to ah basically cancel executive orders.
00:15:48
Speaker
And the other one says all orders. My question is, ken and can ah can the president cancel a pardon through executive order?
00:16:01
Speaker
And that's where the word plenary comes in. I had to look it up. So apparently, ah according to my research, is i don't think he can.
00:16:13
Speaker
It's kind of in the Constitution, and it's plenary, which means unchangeable. Yeah. and for good. I think, uh, I think that would have to be taken to court. Yeah.
00:16:24
Speaker
Yeah. I think the executive orders, i mean, he could just change that anyways. so Absolutely. Any, the like environmental, any, any executive orders, like he's doing one with the U S auto stuff. ah Yeah. The gas mileage cafe that be standard. People are overreacting to that on, on the good side. Cause all he's done is, uh, he took back Biden's um Stuff which is good, but yeah people are thinking they're going to ah that you're not going to have the auto stop and all that stuff anymore. And it's like, no, that's from Obama days.
00:16:59
Speaker
Oh, one of the best features of my truck. Yeah, you didn't get it. doesn't have that. Because of a but chip shortage. Yeah, it was a chip shortage. So they they were actually... um dealers were buying trucks or cars and picking, you know, like for one, you know a buddy of mine had one that he had to wait four or five months to get ah his, for his seat to be warm because they they wait for that ship. But that was one chips they could put in afterwards. But yeah, it has no, uh, there's no, that's the best thing. When I rent a car, i'm like, Oh,
00:17:25
Speaker
ah Start, hit the button. Start, hit the button. And then you forget to hit the button and it shuts off. like Yeah, mine doesn't shut off anymore. I think I take my batteries kind of aged and it doesn't shut off anymore.
00:17:39
Speaker
No, it's not hard to turn that off. Oh, I know. It only costs you 100 bucks. Oh, really? i didn't even know you could do that. Yeah. But it mine just doesn't turn off just because I think the battery's are a few years old. It doesn't. Yeah, maybe.
00:17:52
Speaker
Okay. but That's, oh, because my battery gets pretty, uh, If I don't, because sometimes I don't drive my truck for a week. And if it's cold, it the battery's pretty, ah it doesn't. That's actually sign. I think had jump my truck once or twice already.
00:18:08
Speaker
That's actually a good sign. the battery's getting low, deactivates. That's actually a plus because was wondering about that. And ah yeah, they had little modules you can plug into your, whatever that thing's called.
00:18:21
Speaker
ah I got to look that up but where where you but plug the tester in. Yeah. you plug they They have a company that sells specific units. You just plug in, hit a button and it changes it. And basically what it's doing is the same thing you could do by hooking, by buying the cable and hooking up to your computer.
00:18:36
Speaker
yeah but okay But then you have to go through the menu and make sure you, because it's not like, hey, check this box. And when you're doing it through the computer, it's, you have to actually put in like a number. Right. Zero means this, one means that. So they sell it, they're like 80 or 100 bucks. You just plug right in and it does one or two things.
00:18:51
Speaker
Because the other one I have on mine, because mine's a little newer than yours, I have the, when I turn my brights on, it shuts off the fog lights. Oh, okay. And honestly, why should I be less cool if I have to put my brights on?
00:19:06
Speaker
Like fog lights are really usually, i mean, if if it's a little, i forget fog lights kind of work strangely if, Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Mine and on mine, at least when you turn the brights on it, the fog lights shut off. I don't think mine does that.
00:19:22
Speaker
And i'm I'm not sure why they call it Bambi mode. Because you're, you know, beer and blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, why wouldn't you want both, all of them on?
00:19:33
Speaker
You're trying to get more light on the road. Why are you going to shut off lights? Maybe you just don't want to blind the people in front of you. Well, yeah, but that you wouldn't put your brights on anyway. if you I don't know. Some people drive. Yes, that's true. And the mine has the auto brights.
00:19:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So, it and which works pretty good. But again, it shuts the, when it when it comes on, shuts the fog lights off. I always thought it was weird. So I just don't even do that. But anyway, that was one of the things. Anyway, so yes.
00:19:58
Speaker
That is one of the things but I don't think he's going to, he's talking about canceling pardons. And I think he's going to go to your court to do that. I think the important ones that I want to cancel, he signed, physically signed, didn't use the, I think the Fauci one though is auto pen signed.
00:20:15
Speaker
I think you're probably right. I think there's only a couple that aren't, but the Hunter Biden one is signed by yeah Joe Biden. Slippy Joe. Slippy Joe. So there's a couple of stories on that that we talked about. Everybody's, you know, Oh no, what's he going to do?
00:20:31
Speaker
That's the problem with the executive orders. be honest with you is the next president. Oh, it's gotten out of hand for crying out loud. Yeah. It's gotten out of hand because you know, every time Congress does nothing. Yes.
00:20:42
Speaker
Yes. Conveniently they've set it up so they can take no blame and get all the credit. Yep. And the money. Allegedly. Uh, they, uh, yeah. And with a wave of a pen, any executive order can be re reversed with the next president.
00:20:56
Speaker
So I get it. Everybody gets excited that Trump's doing all this stuff, which is great, but got to codify it. Yes. And with the, uh, the do nothing GOP, uh, fat chance on that one, a chance on that one.
00:21:10
Speaker
All right. So next we have, yeah, to touch on, uh, job numbers
00:21:19
Speaker
and, you know,
00:21:22
Speaker
That's why it came up.
Questioning Optimism in US Job Numbers
00:21:24
Speaker
You know, job numbers. So U.S. weekly jobless claims dive to a more than three-year low. And then when you read their article, you're kind of like, eh. That's exactly why I said, eh. You know, it's got some good news in there.
00:21:38
Speaker
There's still a lot of companies planning on and laying off, but that's dropped. So the that's one of the things that's good thing you can pull from it. Yeah, the jobless claims dropped more than they thought. So summary here is weekly jobless claims dropped 27,000 to 191,000.
00:21:53
Speaker
Continuing claims fell 4,000 to 1.93 million, which is a flip out of 2 million people, but still a drop. Plan layoffs decreased by 53% in November. That's probably the bigger of them bigger part of the story. Yeah, why do you think that is?
00:22:13
Speaker
i Why? i I don't. That's a good question. Maybe there i think there's because i think there's just been so many layoffs in the tech industry that that number is ah a bit of a um misleading, I should say.
00:22:28
Speaker
It's a as far as typical numbers go, just because there's been so many layoffs in the tech industry. And the other thing, um I think on part of this, they're kind of picking it apart.
00:22:41
Speaker
Some of this, because of the government shutdown, there's some numbers that aren't there and aren't going to be there for November or is it October? November, I think. Yeah. I think it's November. Yeah. And yeah, because it's shut out yesterday that's true shut down in November. And a lot of this information or some of it at least is coming from ADP, the
00:23:01
Speaker
payment payments, you know, hr company. And it's, it's, it's not a random slice. It's, it's only a small portion of the job market. This and that, you know, things. Right.
00:23:13
Speaker
You know, it's not bad news. It's just not, I just not as. Yeah. When I saved this story, I i thought it would be just a maybe it'd be good to mention something that's ah good news yeah nationally. But then. ah yeah That's a good point. Yeah, we do. We do.
00:23:31
Speaker
for For the listeners, I think we both go through stories and we kind of see the headlines and we set stories aside. And then ah once we choose the stories, then we read the stories. So the ah be ye headline was a probably a little bit more misleading than... Shocker.
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, right. What a shocker. But Reuters shouldn't be doing that. That's that's from Reuters. No, and I don't know if this was that they, I mean, their headline is U.S. weekly job claims dive to more than three year low, which is actually. When you say dive.
00:24:01
Speaker
it's That's good. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I mean, the okay. Three year low. That's, I mean, it's good. It's nothing, it's nothing bad. It's not bad news. It's just, uh, I don't think it's as good as we originally thought.
00:24:11
Speaker
Yeah. Same. That's that part. i don't, don't, um, don't know what else to say. I think, well, we'll talk about it actually in the next story, which, uh, may tie a little bit into that because I guess my question, you got the story here from.
00:24:29
Speaker
Scene Magazine, which this comes from Nick Evans of hope Ohio Capital Journal.
Impact of Ohio's Data Centers on Resources
00:24:35
Speaker
Right. Here is watchdogs for electric grid in Ohio and other states wants a pause on data centers. My question is, does Ohio have a data center problem?
00:24:48
Speaker
Yes. I think that might be. and we have an energy problem, not a data set of problem. I think, yes, I think energy is one part of it, but I think it's way more than just energy. Yeah, okay.
00:25:01
Speaker
And I actually added to the list a video from the Ohio housing nerd. And I got a few clips from it. I thought we'd break it down little bit because I think it's a little bit more than...
00:25:14
Speaker
than just energy. Energy is a big part of it. And we'll see. let's Let's just go with a clip one here and see what he has to say. So this won't be about electricity and that kind of stuff, but why are they,
00:25:30
Speaker
Why are, well, we'll just go. Something a lot of people don't know is that Ohio has quietly become one of the biggest data center states in the country. And it's not just for Intel.
00:25:41
Speaker
Across the state, data centers are popping up everywhere. In fact, now there are 202 data centers in the state of Ohio with over 120 in central Ohio alone. The fact.
00:25:54
Speaker
Let's pause that for a second because. You've got 202 in Ohio. You've got 129 near and around Columbus. So that's the big spot because that's where and Intel decided to pitch its tent, which right now it's just a tent because there's nothing else there.
00:26:11
Speaker
And 24 in Cleveland, in the city of Cleveland, it says there's 24 data centers. in this In the city of Cincinnati, there's 21. think it said Akron had like six ah because he st throws up a list there.
00:26:26
Speaker
And, uh,
00:26:28
Speaker
are becoming, quickly becoming, and what, but why, think goes into it. clips here Continue. fact is the data centers don't just sip natural resources, they inhale resources. In fact, according to AEP Ohio, electricity demand from these data centers is supposed to double by the year 2030. Double.
00:26:51
Speaker
think about that not trend upwards, not just go up a little bit, but double. And we all know what happens to predictions. a lot of times they're wrong. They're probably painting a rosy picture because in reality, the data centers are going to gobble up much more than double the required power. And have you seen your power bill rise? I'd like to know. i know my bill has continued to go up and my fear is it's not going to stop.
00:27:16
Speaker
So there's electricity. So double. And one of the headlines he flashes is Ohio will be, if that's the case, if Ohio doubles its energy demand or energy use, that will put us on par with Manhattan as far as energy use. what is what some The whole state. flash Yes.
00:27:38
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. So right now. wait Which makes sense, right? Right. Because isn't man, how many people does Manhattan hold?
00:27:50
Speaker
I don't know about Manhattan. New York is 8 million. Yeah, 8 million York. I think there's 4 or 5 maybe in Manhattan. i don't So that's crazy if we would be on par with that because if they got 4 million, 5 million, let's say, we got 12?
00:28:04
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11 or 12, yeah. ah
00:28:10
Speaker
But for what, though? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get it Manhattan population. Manhattan population is around 1.6 million people. Yeah. How many? 1.6. Okay. Yeah. But they got out, they have all those high rises and everything. Very dense. yeah yeah and Yeah. Okay.
00:28:29
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So right now, AEP, they average, I think the state is averaging at 9.4 gigabytes, but that's because spell check. Gigawatts.
00:28:40
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take a watt Yeah. Energy use. And AEP, originally AEP said, well, it's going to be 30 gigawatts of demand in the next five years. And then they kind of, which is kind of weird in the story after they got the tariff that they, so now AEPs put a tariff in on new data centers and they're getting sued for that tariff.
00:29:01
Speaker
But after they got what they wanted, they revised their number to 13 gigawatts. which is still in 15 gigawatts by 2034. But that's just data center demand. That's not the rest of the state. So we're going to like double, like what he's saying, double.
00:29:17
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And is it really going to be double? So why? we're what what they're suing, so they want these data centers to pay an extra fee because of all the extra infrastructure you got to do and all other stuff.
00:29:32
Speaker
and And they want to put a moratorium on more more data centers and they're getting pushback. And like and I'm trying to figure out why, because if you don't, if you can't produce, if you can only produce 9.4 gigawatts and you need 10 gigawatts and, you know, plugging this data center and it puts you to 10 gigawatts, guess what?
00:29:49
Speaker
It's not there. So what do you expect them to do? I'll tell you what, we've talked about it before. This last last summer, in my room, I have a voltage meter running constantly.
00:30:00
Speaker
And i was I was down to 112, 110, 109 volts coming into my house early on. And I think that that's new. That's never happened to me before. What was going on at that time?
00:30:13
Speaker
that was How was the weather? it was That was before it got really hot. but That was during, it like right as we were... Well, as it was getting hot. yeah Yeah.
00:30:23
Speaker
And then the power kind of leveled off around 115 volts coming into my house. And right now, typically I've never... By the way, the reason I have a voltage meter in my... it a conditioner or a voltage meter? I thought you said had a conditioner. It's a conditioner, but it has a meter on it.
00:30:44
Speaker
And the reason I have it is just because of all the ah music equipment and recording equipment I have. And I also like to keep track of it because some of the old amplifiers I have are tube and I just, I want to cut that voltage down to the tubes because they they were originally designed for 110 but I typically get right now I'm looking at it. I got one 21. So I get anywhere from one 19 to one 24. And there was a, about a two month period early in the late spring and early summer that was, I was down to, sometimes it went down to 109. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:18
Speaker
yeah If, if, if they start consuming more, uh, energy, yeah you know, what, what where what are they going to start clocking the houses? Yeah. I think I have it, uh,
00:31:30
Speaker
have some boots on the ground and yes, they're, they're on super conservative mode. Right. Those times because they're, they're just barely hanging on. It was like the little kitty in the poster. Just hang in there, buddy. Just hang in there.
00:31:42
Speaker
Yeah. That's what I've got to get it below 90 degrees and we won't, everything won't blow up in our face. And that's without even the data debt, all the data centers being completed. Right. That's just with what we have so far. Right.
00:31:55
Speaker
It's crazy. So that's where I get back to. Okay. You don't want AEP to put any moratoriums on more data centers. Where are they going to get the power from people? It's, you can't just pull it out of their butt.
00:32:09
Speaker
So they have something has to be done. That's my point. And and everybody's, you know, no, you you need to slow the heck down. And i know I know for some good sources that there's been a lot of projects in the area that have been permanently delayed because AEP says, build all you want. We've got nothing to hook it up hook you up for.
00:32:26
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We've got nothing. And we've talked about a little bit Intel has got this big substation and Meta, Facebook, wants some of that power because the substation is there, but they're not using it really at the Intel site. So they want some of that power to be sent to the, because they they don't have enough power at the Meta data centers.
00:32:48
Speaker
you know and And if you see any data centers, one thing you will notice, they are they are lined with massive generators. these are These are generators like big as a semi-trailer almost.
00:32:59
Speaker
What's going to happen? There's 20 of them. What's going to happen when we don't need the data centers anymore? They're building, that's the other thing that came to mind. They're building all these data centers before we even, and and then they're going to tell us how we need them.
00:33:14
Speaker
Well, okay, ah the assumption is that it's all because of AI, right? Mostly, right? But what happens when technology gets better where we don't need data centers to this yeah to this extent?
00:33:27
Speaker
Ask Microsoft. Yeah. Remember the story we covered? They they canceled a billion-dollar project. They bought a bunch of land, farmland, and canceled it because they have come the conclusion that as technology moves forward and chips get better, the power usage is going down. Yeah. So you don't need as many and you don't need as many servers to get the same amount done, so they put this big project in Ohio on hold for a while. I just think i just think a lot of this is due to...
00:33:56
Speaker
people in charge wanting to get construction jobs to make it to fluff their numbers in Ohio. and Thank you for segwaying me and tying me into where I was getting to with the with the jobs number story. Because part of me thinks that a lot of this data center push is the bubble. they' It's keeping people working. It's keeping the numbers up.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yeah. Where would we be without these? Because there's if there's ah ah hundreds going up in Ohio, nationwide, there's thousands going up this year. Right. And look at Virginia. That's supposed to be data center alley, but it's not just electricity. So we'll go on to the next clip here. I got more here from Ohio housing nerd. So it's not just electricity.
00:34:37
Speaker
Now let's talk about the part that no leadership really wants to acknowledge, and that's
Sustainability Concerns with Data Centers
00:34:43
Speaker
water. Ohio has some of the strongest water resources in the Midwest, deep, rich aquifers and underground rivers that flow through the state producing tons of great water. According to some of Intel's own Ohio water filings, the two microchip FAB sites that are about 10 miles from me right now will consume upwards of 5 million gallons of water per day. And nationally, large data centers can use anywhere from 1 to 5 million gallons of water a day. This isn't just a Columbus or big city issue. This impacts every region of Ohio and every Ohioan. And here in the little town of Granville, where I live, we're seeing a massive fight ensue over the groundwater that intel is going to need. Remember, folks, there are no solutions. There are just trade-offs. And the people of Granville probably fear that one of the trade-offs of this development that's happening nearby is the robbing of the natural resources like water. Remember, big tech's not buying all this farmland for crops. They're buying it for what's underneath
00:35:50
Speaker
All right. I got a question. Yeah. The water used to cool, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. So they're using, okay, this is crazy, but 5 million gallons a day.
00:36:01
Speaker
Where does that, does the water steam off or does it run off into a drain? Like, does it go back into the earth?
00:36:09
Speaker
I think it depends on the data center and a lot of them are recycling the water and, but there's, there is always water that's lost.
00:36:20
Speaker
Right. Right. They have to ref refill the tanks, let's say. It sounds, it just sounds crazy. But I've talked to, I've talked to a couple of people that have been on these sites and what they've seen they're stuck in city, they're sucking in city water and it's just going right into the sewer.
00:36:40
Speaker
ah yeah and So so so as some aren't recycling it, some are. And this is kind of a part of the issue or part of the reason it needs to be brought up. Because it if this comes to your town and you can't stop it, you at least have to put some barriers up for these these companies.
00:36:57
Speaker
and Well, i you know, if if you're living ah in a rural area and you got a well, I'd be worried about that well drying Very worried about it, yeah. We have some of the best water. And that's the that's part of the key in this.
00:37:09
Speaker
It's not just water. These servers only want good, clean drinking water. They're not just going to take regular water. They want, it has to be good water. Yeah. Yeah. Because they don't, it's just cleaner.
00:37:26
Speaker
Cleaner. there's a whole, yeah, there's a whole. They don't want to deal with the filtering. They should. Yeah. Dirty water. Cause you're literally there. These chips are submerged in water. It's cool to keep them cool. That's the, and a lot of what I've seen, I've been on a couple of sites and a lot of what I've seen that they are pumping it back up, cooling it off and bringing it back in.
00:37:46
Speaker
um But still, in a lot of cases, if if if these companies aren't being watched, you know, who who knows what they're going to do? and And that's kind of some of the other stuff that he's talking about. These are big tech companies coming in ah with cash deals for with LLCs that nobody knows who they are.
00:38:08
Speaker
And you don't find out until years later, a year you know, year later to who actually is behind this LLC. Is it Facebook? Is it Google? Is it Amazon? So let's let's continue. It's got something else, the housing market.
Tech Companies and Ohio's Housing Market
00:38:22
Speaker
Now let's talk about how this affects Ohioans with the housing market. We all know that homes have become completely unaffordable for the average Ohioan. And so when these big tech companies come in and buy up massive portions of land, that land could have been used maybe for affordable homes. But then what happens? The data center, the chip factory, the solar field goes in, and most people don't want to live near that. So the area around it is basically not going to be for housing for the foreseeable future. And in my opinion, this is one of the reasons why the home prices in Ohio continue to go up. Many people don't know, but less than 2% of all the houses in Ohio were built after 2020. That basically means we need a lot more new homes, preferably smaller affordable homes. But the land that could go to affordable housing is being bought and kept by big tech. And folks, once they own that land, they're not going to let it go. And if we continue down the path we're on now in the Buckeye State with higher taxes, higher utility costs, and more and more big tech companies purchasing up massive portions of Ohio farmland, my fear is that the Ohio housing market will never be affordable for the average person.
00:39:40
Speaker
I'll just finish off one more quick one on any, because he goes on to, you know, housing market. Yeah, but taxes. Now, here's a part that I know every Ohioan is feeling, the property taxes. Because while big tech companies receive 10, 15, 20, 30-year tax abatements for billions of dollars, ordinary families are getting hammered with historical property tax increases. In fact, there are some county auditors right now in Ohio warning that we could see historical property tax increases in the next few years. Didn't we just have historical?
00:40:16
Speaker
over the last few years, we're going to have it again because they're saying, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe. So I think, I do think we have a data setter problem. I, it's it's good jobs, construction jobs, but after that, I'm not sure how much more they're giving to the community.
00:40:33
Speaker
What do you actually, i mean, you get in tax abatements, you don't have many people working there, so you're not getting a whole lot of income tax. What's the advantage? I just think to if you ask me, it's just about fluffing all the construction numbers. It looks great for a couple of years.
00:40:49
Speaker
It looks great for the ah the critters in Columbus. Yeah, yeah. It's not good. This is not good. No. Because once they build on that land, that farmland has changed for quite a long time. You can't just demolish the building and start planting there again.
00:41:08
Speaker
so Yeah, i don't and you know that doesn't happen. They're going to build it and it's going to sit there and rot after it's not in use and eventually maybe somebody will come in and take it. kind of They're not going to farm on it again.
00:41:24
Speaker
So yeah, I think we do have a data center problem. Let's see, anything else?
00:41:30
Speaker
Yeah, and then you know it's it's everything's kind of done in secret it seems like.
00:41:36
Speaker
double date the one A lot of many four years the land buys are done kind of in secret, kind of like, I don't know if it's secret, but it's... and If you're looking to buy land and you're looking at a piece of land, it kind of disappears pretty quick sometimes and you don't know what the hell just happened.
00:41:52
Speaker
it's ah It's a Walt Disney trick from when i but the way I see it. Because that's what Walt Disney did in Florida when he was buying up land for Disney World. Yeah. He did it under LLC, other companies that he started. Because if you know Facebook is trying to buy your property...
00:42:07
Speaker
you're not going to give them a deal at all. Right. Like read your Facebook, no pay me 20% or 20% above the double that I want, you know, whatever. Well, if I see an LLC, any kind of LLC, me personally, I'd be like, oh okay. You're going to be paying me double.
00:42:22
Speaker
Well, yeah. How badly do you want this? Yeah. Obviously you kind of want to, It's important to you. And he brought up a couple points is that they are also focusing on a lot of farmland that it has transmission lines going through it.
00:42:36
Speaker
If you watch the video, he claims he's claiming if you control the land where the transmission lines are on, you control the power, which don't think so, because our company still controls the power. But you do have some more, you hit you have better access to that. i was going to say you have access because ah was it this guy that was talking about the, um,
00:42:55
Speaker
No, I don't think it was. i There's like a triangle of massive power lines that go from, I think it goes from Pittsburgh to St.
00:43:07
Speaker
Louis to Chicago. okay. And so you know some of that goes through Ohio. And if, yeah, if you could connect to that, and and the and the reason was, the reason it those lines were built, we should have a lot more of those lines, but the reason they were built was because they found it cheaper instead of shipping coal, they found it cheaper to build these wires, ah transmission lines, and burn the coal and send the power.
00:43:36
Speaker
than shipping coal. To another plant, yeah, okay. Right. So the federal government did this in the, I think it was started in the late 60s and went through the 70s.
00:43:49
Speaker
I i forget forget the exact years, but that, so yeah, probably having access to those lines can... is a big deal for, for these data centers.
00:44:01
Speaker
And I, I would, I can't go through this without at least mentioning one of the reasons we're in this predicament is yes, data centers, but it's been compiled or been made worse because over the last 10 years, what have you been doing it in Ohio?
00:44:15
Speaker
We've been decommissioning nuke plants and coal fire plants. Yeah. Yeah. And now in decommissioning, tearing them down. You drive down the the shoreway. There used to be a plant there on the shoreway. That's gone.
00:44:26
Speaker
e And that's all because of government policies. Yep. Clean Air Act. If you make it, if you make the... If you make the regulations so difficult, it costs too much, then that's a good way to call these evil coal plants out.
00:44:44
Speaker
Or just make the regulations so bad that it doesn't make financial sense for the company to keep it. or or read They can make them cleaner. But if you make it if you make the standards so tough, they're just going to say, forget it.
00:44:57
Speaker
Shenanigans, Rob. ah You're right. Shenanigans. There we go. Perfect. Perfect. Shenanigans. right enough about that one. Let's go on to some more shenanigans.
00:45:10
Speaker
It's going to be the theme of the show, I think. Dayton teacher is in some hot water. In some hot water.
Dayton Teacher's Controversial Intervention
00:45:17
Speaker
us Well, see, Dayton teacher was walking past the classroom and he saw a couple of kids fighting.
00:45:25
Speaker
So he decided to go in and, you know, break the fight up because, you know, he's a teacher. And, yeah he you know, he's now he's a little hot water because he... He was a little rough with one of the kids. Did you watch the video, Rob?
00:45:39
Speaker
I did. See, I just thought maybe he was walking past the classroom and somebody was taking his grape soda because he shoved that kid like he was having a grape soda stolen.
00:45:51
Speaker
No, I think, I think he, but I think he had enough because he was very hot. You could tell he was very, so the story here is, He breaks up this fight, shoves a kid to the ground.
00:46:03
Speaker
The video gets put on social media and everybody starts freaking out. And now they're, they're at the, the teacher's under investigation. And, you know, he hasn't been suspended or anything. Yeah. They say that they're not going to suspend him while he's investigating, but I have a feeling they're going to give him some kind of reprimand.
00:46:21
Speaker
I'm not sure. You know, I don't know. you so yeah What do you think? Like, I just think it looks a lot worse than it really was. It does. It does look a lot worse.
00:46:33
Speaker
Mainly because the guy's like, you know, and he's ah he's a, he's a big dude. He's a big fella. Big, big fella. He's a big, you know, well, actually looks more like a normal American nowadays.
00:46:44
Speaker
Yeah. Obese. Yes. So he's coming past, he breaks the fight. And he ends up doing, he ends up taking one of the kids and shoving them to the ground. I would argue it was pretty damn effective because the the kid that got shoved on the ground was fighting another kid in a black hoodie.
00:46:59
Speaker
That kid what just, he put his hoodie on, turned around and walked away. yeah He was like, oh yeah, we're not messing around with this anymore. But i what I'd like to find out is, well, let's listen to the mom of the kid who got shut down.
00:47:16
Speaker
This is Miss Destiny Jackson. Let's see what this is from News 2 out of Dayton's from the their YouTube channel I picked because, you know, I text you early in the week.
00:47:26
Speaker
Hey, have you seen the video? Because I looked at three different news stories on three different news sites and they all referenced the video, but nobody had it embedded their news story. Not even this this Fox 8 story that they're taking it because I think News 2 is ah was a Fox affiliate.
00:47:43
Speaker
This Fox 8 story does not even have the video in it. Yet they reference the video all through it. it's like So I had to go search for the video. And and here's here's what... Maybe we might figure out why the kids are fighting these days.
00:47:57
Speaker
here's here's Here's some Miss Destiny Jackson. Who needs to remove him? This was the reaction Destiny Jackson had when she saw this video. Get up!
00:48:10
Speaker
This moment caught by a DLA student shows the moment a teacher intervenes in a fight, throwing Jackson's son to the ground. I understand if you were breaking up a situation, but you know should have never went about it that way. I don't think that that is cool. I don't put my hands on my children, so I don't think it's okay for someone else to.
00:48:28
Speaker
Shortly following the incident, the video was shared online, leading to many on the internet scrutinizing the way the teacher broke up the altercation. The school responded to the incident on Wednesday, saying while the video doesn't show the full context of the fight, it doesn't excuse the manner of the intervention.
00:48:45
Speaker
A statement from the school's executive director reads in part, quote, Our first responsibility is always student safety. While intervention is sometimes necessary to stop an altercation, we have clear expectations for how we manage these situations and train our staff, end quote.
00:49:01
Speaker
Staff I spoke to off camera say that the teacher will be facing disciplinary measures, but that they won't be suspended while an internal review is conducted. After seeing know a big, grown man slam a child and stand over them with his fist bowled, how is that making sure that our kids are safe?
00:49:20
Speaker
um Now, Jackson says that she is looking to press charges. She says while her son is okay, he will never feel safe in that school again. Live in the newsroom, Evan Bales 2 News. First of all, why is Destiny using her stage name? I mean, she should keep her dancer life out of this. That is not her stage name, I guarantee you.
00:49:42
Speaker
Uh, yeah, you you know, you don't, tell me, you didn't have to tell me that you don't put hands on your kids because I can tell by your kid, how your kid's acting that you don't put hands on your kids. Cause in my opinion, one of the but best ways that keeps you out of a fight is the, is the worry that you might get your ass beat.
00:49:59
Speaker
And if you'd never gotten your ass beat, you know, by your parents or whatever, you don't know what that's like. So you don't really care. I'm just getting a fight. Nothing ever happens to me. Yeah. I can tell you don't put your kids, uh, hands on your kids.
00:50:13
Speaker
Oh, that's all right. um you're not I got nothing important to say except that she should learn how to pronounce a few words. Like, bow. Children. she didn't dance She couldn't even say children.
00:50:24
Speaker
and touch So she's like, I could understand if you were breaking up a fight. Yeah, that's what he was doing with your son. so i do I will say it did seem like he lost his cool, the teacher.
00:50:39
Speaker
Yeah, well, I would too if they took my grape soda. but I mean, one of them, I i think it was definitely because the yeah he had a purple shirt on too, so definitely grape soda fan. But they,
00:50:51
Speaker
um I think, yeah, I don't i don't know if, I think I may have a problem a slight problem, but I think I'd be more pissed at my kid for fighting. But she doesn't give a crap about her kid fighting.
00:51:01
Speaker
yes's So now she's looking at a lawsuit. Oh, yeah. You knew that was coming. They did mention that they do ah have specific guidelines.
00:51:13
Speaker
I can go get that Escalade now. Oh, yeah. She's going to get that one. They ah lack with gold. And they ah from the comments I've seen in some of the posts on and social media with some quote-unquote teachers, who knows if they actually are, a lot of them have said, that yeah, we are trained to call security and sit back.
00:51:37
Speaker
And wait for security in a lot of schools. They're they're told, do not intervene. Let security do it. So if we've we've all been to high school, most i would think most of people listening, if not all, how long does a fight usually you last in high school?
00:51:51
Speaker
A minute? Yeah. So just wait for the fight to be over. Then security can roll in.
00:51:59
Speaker
That's making any sense. This guy was a little a little aggressive. It wasn't that bad. you could tell I'm telling you, it looks worse than it it was because he didn't hurt the kid. He just he did push him down.
00:52:11
Speaker
It's a very large man, hes and he looks like he's... like You never see his face. No. I'm sure he's pissed. he was pissed. You could tell by his fist. He did have a one fist clench. Well, I think that the fist is just a natural...
00:52:27
Speaker
Yeah, so he basically got him, put his arm in between them. Go watch the video. But he put his arm in between them, between the two kids, and just kind of clotheslined the kid down to the ground. Yeah. And guess what?
00:52:38
Speaker
Stopped the fight. Stopped the fight, and the kid got right up. I mean, he didn't hurt him. So if he walks past the classroom, and I'm sure, I would assume they have cameras in schools. a lot of schools, especially public schools, have cameras. Maybe not. We'll just say they do, because it helps my argument. But if he's walking past the classroom,
00:52:57
Speaker
and sees two kids fighting and keeps on walking. One kid gets knocked to the ground and and is now in the hospital because, don't know, hit his head or whatever.
00:53:09
Speaker
is Is he still getting sued because he ignored it instead of intervening? So that's good question I think there is a certain demographic that will try to find a suit in anything that happens.
00:53:25
Speaker
Yeah. And maybe demographic is the wrong certain class class. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Definitely a class. And, uh, you know, I don't know. Let's keep, we'll keep, if anything changes, we'll see if he gets sued. I'm sure he's going to get sued. <unk> so the school well I don't think the guy can get sued.
00:53:43
Speaker
No, I don't. I don't. Well, tell you truth. I don't know. I mean, if he's a teacher and he's in a union, probably not. Probably not. You're probably right. It's all great. So you get this. Taxpayers get to pay for it.
00:53:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's exactly what it is.
00:53:58
Speaker
It's for safety. Yeah. well but um Yeah. He's trying to keep the other kids safe from your kid.
00:54:06
Speaker
Tell me you don't discipline your kids by not telling me you don't do it, but don't actually tell me. You know, i don't think this was would have even been mentioned it and and if there was no video.
00:54:17
Speaker
Right. ah Because we don't really, they they still don't mention anything about the
Discipline and Accountability in Schools
00:54:23
Speaker
fight. Did any the did either of the kids have a... a weapon, you know, we don't, we don't know anything about it. Well, you know, it's the grape soda lobby, the grape soda lobby. Well, they don't want bad press.
00:54:37
Speaker
Well, the thing is it only made it because there's a video and it's, it's a very, uh, ah You could jump to conclusions pretty quick with that video. Yeah. Like I said, I think he maybe got a little overzealous there.
00:54:50
Speaker
ah little bit. I don't know. Maybe you need to talk him too. When I went to junior high, i I saw kids getting spanked by the principal. So I really don't. this This to me is just somebody that's just taking care of a problem.
00:55:05
Speaker
you know, maybe a little too aggressively. And I, and I stress a little, a little, I just think it looked worse than it was. It definitely looked worse than it did. It could, it could have been a lot where, I mean, you know stuff happens, but I think if there's no accountability, if the kids have no fear of any repercussions from mom or the school or anybody, this is what you get. And this is why,
00:55:28
Speaker
Schools are a lot of schools are the way they are. We see the videos all the time. It's actually, you know, again, we'll go back to the start of this podcast. I can see videos from all across the country about school boards and our school fights and teachers getting hit.
00:55:41
Speaker
And yet I'd never, you know, I saw those, but I don't see the ones from Ohio going back to like kind of why we try to focus on Ohio. But you it's because kids have no fricking accountability.
00:55:53
Speaker
They're not afraid of anything. I know. i would I was afraid to get my ass beat. I would give the teachers a baton, police baton. um I mean, something that I, you know, train them in de-escalation, whatever. But the fact that these kids aren't afraid of of any consequences is is a big reason why they act out like this.
00:56:13
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Because I would have never done that. I wouldn't worry about the teacher. I worry about my my mom and my dad. They'd to beat my butt severely for doing that. Exactly. But I never lay hands on my child. I never lay hands on my child.
00:56:26
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So you shouldn't either. or yeah, i could tell you don't.
00:56:30
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00:57:23
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00:57:39
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Yes. Okay. You ready, Tom? we got Let's peek and see what they're what's going on in Columbus. Who needs to remove him? See? wrong Wrong clip. There we go.
00:57:56
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Creator Corner is back. It seems to be a weekly thing because, man, they're busy down there in Columbus. Busy doing a whole lot stuff. stuff we'll start with the light one this morning today whatever time it is for you hb 554 is the first one on our list hb 554 is uh is a cash it will require businesses to accept cash for any purchases 500 or less okay seems reasonable right
00:58:33
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Well, yeah, it is. I think think we definitely need to to take cash because it's you know it's kind of a currency in our country. and I can't believe we're even talking about this.
00:58:45
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I don't know your take yet. So part of me kind of liked it because one of the most annoying things is going to a concert. And i I step up to the bar, order a drink, and they don't take cash.
00:58:56
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So you go to Cedar Point, they don't take cash. Yeah, and that that is just...
00:59:01
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That is just BS to me. I think you should have to take cash because, i mean, it should be an acceptable form of payment. And it's a currency. you know so I don't know. My brain just breaks. I'm like, how could you? I get i get the reason. I get the reason. I actually get a part of the reason why Cedar Point does that, for example.
00:59:21
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Oh, I get the reasons why they do it. but because Because kids can't make change anymore. They don't do that. I think it helps prevent skimming. Yeah, skimming. Yeah. That's what I think mostly about it. Oh, yeah. And and well, that just, but yeah, not even skimming. Let's just let's just take it at the at the honest, just giving the wrong change.
00:59:41
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I mean, i I ran register for ah for a while in different jobs when I was a kid. I never skimmed. Well, I shouldn't say that. But um most of my problems were I just gave the wrong change. And my my till would be off because one way or the other, because I i missed i messed up on change.
00:59:58
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Gave an extra five or whatever stuck together. I didn't actually skim from the till. What did I use? s Oh, yeah, that's right. could Because I could do change in my head. Oh, you would skip the whole thing. Yeah. they'd ate Anybody who bought soda, any pops or anything, I would basically just do the change and put the money aside to pay for my gas.
01:00:18
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um o Yeah. It was good until I forgot to fill the refrigerator thing.
01:00:29
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But I think there's a quote here that I think was kind of stuck out to me because I was like, huh? So here's a quote. Cash is more that than King. It's the basis on which our economy moves.
01:00:42
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Rep Dave Thomas said, no. First of all, I'm shocked that the the Wendy's guy thinks the world still revolves around cash. This David Thomas is busy.
01:00:54
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Yes. I do see his name a lot. He's a rep from Smithville. Obviously not the Wendy's guy because that guy's dead. But it is the basis on which our economy moves.
01:01:05
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I disagree with that. would you what What major deal gets done with cash anymore? I don't think major deals are what makes the economy move. I think it's small business.
01:01:18
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And who pays with cash anymore? Well... agreed i i yeah but i mean they um i don't disagree with the bill i'm just saying i don't i think i think that comments a little don't think it yeah quite as much dated maybe a little bit a little out of touch i think i don't keep cash on me because i spend it too fast he's from smithville i don't know where that is ah should have looked that up but he might be from a smaller town maybe it's a little bit more true good point no it's good point you know but i so I think, I can't believe we have to have this bill.
01:01:54
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but ah And I think the $500 mark is stupid. It should just be must accept cash. I don't care how much it is. um Yeah. Yeah. Why limit it at 500 bucks? although I mean.
01:02:05
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but Yeah, no, it's retarded. so if I go buy a car, I can't come with a, like, is the dealer going to turn down my. Probably get arrested. Briefcase full of cash.
01:02:17
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Well, first of all, it would take you um a month to get it because. Yeah, it would take you a while. i had a client when I did photography. He was pretty well off. He was traveling across the country and with a briefcase of money. He was going to buy and a collectible auto.
01:02:32
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I forget what year it was, but it was a a Charger, 68, 69. I don't know. He had a hundred grand on him in cash. He got pulled over and the police searched his car.
01:02:47
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When they took the cash. Yeah. And it took him a long time to get that back. That's, um, uh, I forget. I don't, you know, they're, it's just, you know, they think it's drug money or something. As it for, for, as it's forfeiture, something or other. I've heard that before. And this is a big thing.
01:03:06
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If you can't prove something or something where, if you can't prove where the money came from, they automatically assume it's drug money and they, they're allowed to confiscate it by law. how do you get to prove it on the side of the highway? Exactly. You a lot, a lot of smaller counties around the country are, are, got keen to this as a revenue source.
01:03:25
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Like, okay, if you see someone lot of cash, we we're going to take it because yeah you could use the cash. Yeah. Civil asset forfeiture. That's what it's called. Civil asset forfeiture.
01:03:36
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That's an actual legal and they're legally allowed to do it. Now you can try to get it back, but if you got $15,000,
01:03:44
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how much is it going to take you to get it back? $30,000? Yeah. I never, I should have asked him what it took to get it back. He did get it back, but ah and he he said it took a long time.
01:03:55
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Yeah. And he's well off. So he's even, even if he's going to spend more than he was taken from him, he might just be and obliged or motivated to do it. You know, just for a point. I know I would, if I had, yeah you know, I'd be like, no, you're I'm getting it just, just out of, just out of spite. Out of spite. Yeah. Thank you.
01:04:14
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And, you know, I've heard cases that, you know, people go and buy a car for 15 grand and get pulled over in the middle nowhere and they got the kid in the back and the cop says, okay, fine, we're going to arrest you and your kid's going to go into, you know, into the system and until you figure this out. And they go, okay, take the cash because what are you going to do? and stuff like that. So yeah, I think that's, um,
01:04:34
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but yes i but i guess it may be I guess that made me bring it up because i because i you know when I go look at a card, they do ask me if I'm paying cash, but are you really paying cash? You're just transferring money. Yeah, it's not cash.
01:04:48
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It's digits now. It's just ah binary zero ones and zeros anymore. There's no cash. The banks don't have that cash. But I was going to wonder, I i am wondering, what if I did walk in and with 50 grand? but they tweet What would the dealer do?
01:05:05
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Like, I don't know. They're going to turn you away. I wonder. Yeah. Are they going to turn you away are they going to turn you in? Ah. Like. ah Yeah. Like, who where where where is this drug dealer coming from?
01:05:18
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Yeah. I don't know. i mean, I don't. I have no clue. I'm not too worried about it. I'll tell you what. When I ran the, when I ran a business, when people paid with cash, I was like, oh, yeah. Cool. Yeah. you know, by the time it, by the hoops you have to get through just to get that cash out of the bank.
01:05:34
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Yeah. you You got to come up with all these from, I understand it because I've never pulled out $50,000 of cash. oh Yeah. But that's something I do on a Tuesday morning. No, just, just once a month.
01:05:48
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The, uh, there's a, there's a lot of hoops you gotta go through IRS wise for terrorism and all that kind of stuff. If you pull, if you do anything over like nine or 10 grand as so i Tell you the truth. I think every billionaires don't do anything like that. Everything is done on a loan.
01:06:06
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Oh, yeah. mean the wealth The wealthy, not even billionaires. Use somebody else's money. That's how you become wealthy. Exactly. So, you know, that's mostly going through. the whole story is that ah it's just through the House, right? Yeah, it's just coming through the House. It's probably got to go through the Senate.
01:06:28
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We started talking to him. You pull up the story. Here he is. is introduced October. and so I don't think it's even passed anything.
01:06:42
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It's not an SB. It's an HB. It's House Bill. Sorry. House Bill 554. Yeah. Oh, they gave it a clever name. Cash. Currency access to spend here. life Freaking accurate. I got four people they hired just to get that.
01:06:56
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Yeah. Cash act.
01:07:01
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Stolen hearings. Yeah. It awaits further hearings in the House General Government Committee. It'll pass. It probably will. It makes sense. You know, something about the story, and we're going to go off subject just hair.
01:07:15
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here But at the end of the article, says Thomas said the idea has grassroots origins citing concerns raised during his regular radio appearance in Mahoning Valley.
01:07:27
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He also noted the proposal mirrors a bipartisan federal effort sponsored by Fetterman of Pennsylvania and Kramer of North Dakota. Now, I see this a lot, like something's happening in federal and then the then states kind of try to pass the same thing. Is is this a game plan?
01:07:48
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i see this all all the time, and I never really, right we've never talked about it. I don't know. That's a good point. I think a lot of what happens in in Washington comes about because a lot of the states start having legislation. But I see the states doing it after the Fed do it. Oh, I see.
01:08:07
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So I wonder if it if like if a bunch of states pass it, it has an easier time to get through the federal.
01:08:14
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Oh, I see. Well, you know if it's a game, if it's some type of game plan, I'm just going to. Is that like a signing? They're sending signals to Washington. Hey, we're, ah you know, this, this state is good. That's, you know, so you can, yeah you can pass it maybe. That's good point. Or they're just, they're just copying. and Yeah. It's just something. Just wasting time. Yeah.
01:08:34
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So I, I, I actually, I want to look into that topic a little bit because I see this all the time and I never noticed it before because we, well, we didn't have a podcast, but now I'm noticing and I'm like, what okay.
01:08:48
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So we'll keep eyeing that, see where that's going to have,
01:08:53
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any Any more, if it's going to get through, I think it will pass. But we'll see. We'll keep an eye on it, I should say. Now, our next story, which, I mean, it begs.
01:09:09
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It begs for this. No, stop. Think of the children.
Abortion Amendment Debate in Ohio
01:09:13
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Totally begs for this. Nothing says holidays like abortion talk, Tom. Nothing says the holidays like abortion talk. So next couple of stories, we have a ah they're they're pretty upset because, of course, we have the the ghoulish, what I consider a ghoulish constitutional amendment in Ohio, which, ah you know, it like I don't even know where to go with it, but they approved abortion in Ohio by a a whopping 57 to 43% a couple of years ago. Oh, yeah, there was a lot of there was a lot of blue and green and purple hair dye that day.
SB 309: Abortion Pill Restrictions
01:09:49
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oh
01:09:51
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And I think ah i think the they are yeah unhappy because they had this bill. Abortion is unfettered, basically, in Ohio.
01:10:02
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And the Republicans are starting to put trying to put some some speed bumps, maybe. I mean, i i don't think they're all that much, but they're complaining about it. So...
01:10:13
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SB 309, which according to Senate, state Senator Kyle Kohler, Republican of Springfield, introduced it, which, not according to him, that's the person introduced it. And this article says, which could add, could add steps to access the abortion pill.
01:10:33
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Mif, Mif, Princeton, whatever it is
01:10:38
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I'm not even going to try. So it could. So what what the bill does, it provides a framework for healthcare care workers healthcare care providers to educate a woman on the risks associated with a chemical abortion and makes her aware of her and her family's rights to sue. Now this bill, 309, isn't specifically toward abortion bills, abortion pills, or abortion medicine.
01:11:00
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They have it as any, is it any mail-order pill or is that the next one? um Any pill that you can get um a prescription through an online doctor.
01:11:13
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Okay. that With the withd any pill that has... I think it was 25%. That's the next bill. ah Oh, okay. Well, yeah that's okay, go ahead. infuseuse Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. I'm looking at my notes. That's the next bill. This when when would make doctors have to give a warning to the patient of what could actually happen.
01:11:36
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no no Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Right, but but this is not... No, no, no, it is. but they just What they're trying to do is any pill that has side effects of with people that more than 25% of the people get side effects, they want to ban those pills from being able to be prescribed through an online doctor.
01:11:57
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on three On Bill 309?
01:12:02
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what I have is it just, they don't they want a warning on it. And then 324 for any mail. Oh, okay. I'm looking at it. Okay. Yeah. yeah and and these stories have like, they they talk about couple of bills.
01:12:14
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I'm always getting confused. But 309 is basically requiring doctors to tell the patient about their rights. the the the side effects of these pills and the fact that you can sue if you take this.
01:12:28
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And it also requires individual to sign an information consent document that allows the patient to, allows the patient, the father of the father of the fetus, convenient, the father of the baby, let's correct that, I fixed it, or grandparents, if the patient is a minor, to sue if they feel the patient was not informed when taking the pill.
01:12:51
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so the quote I have here is we have legislation, legislatures, once again, providing what we want, why, proving why we want, we went to the ballot. I can read.
01:13:03
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ah Ignoring the will of the people, ignoring the pro-abortion majority in our state and trying to pass more abortion restrictions that the voters in Ohio don't want.
01:13:15
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i don't know I don't know where you're on the proof they don't want this, but they we we they they they put legislatures in place that are doing this. So that that would kind of show me that maybe they do want some restrictions on it.
01:13:28
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or they say just that your propaganda during the amendment was stronger than the other side. So that's that bill. So that 309, again, they want you sign a consent form, make sure you know the risks of this certain medication.
01:13:42
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miss Death.
HB 324: Mail-order Prescription Controversies
01:13:44
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Mifpristone. Death is a large risk. Yes. The next one, 324, h b three two four is they're saying to stop abortion pills, but the the signers of the bill, the sponsors of the bill of HB 324 said it's not specifically targeting abortion. According to News 5, the bill would prevent mail-order prescriptions and telehealth appointments for medications that cause severe effects, quote-unquote, severe adverse effects, quote-unquote, in more than 5% of users.
01:14:20
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So I think that's... relatively legit i mean if if you got a side effects of 15 to 20 percent 10 8 9 whatever it is i don't know first of all i'm not sure i want to take that medicine but maybe you need a little extra
01:14:40
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guidance from your doctor not just a zoom call and what i didn't know i was i was not aware that you could call you can get you can kill your baby by mail tom Yeah, I didn't realize that either. um
01:15:00
Speaker
Yes. so Oh, yeah. So that was the other thing I pulled. The most common abortion medications that could be delivered via mail have been proven to cause severe health impacts on 10% of women who have taken it.
01:15:13
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I'm why is it and a hundred percent on the baby? yes Everybody's talking about the effects on the mother. How about the the, the, the, the baby inside the mom that dies? I'd like to mail order death.
01:15:27
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Mail order death.
01:15:30
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So they're freaking out because they're probably going want to put some restrictions in because you can't kill your baby until up till time of birth, maybe, or after birth or when they're three years old or something like that.
01:15:42
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I think you should be allowed till age 10. I have a limit. I mean, if you could kill him at nine months, why can't you kill him at nine years? That's how you keep him in line. who Yeah. come Let's talk to destiny. See if she, you know, stage, it would happen to your sisters. It could happen to you still.
01:16:04
Speaker
And we'll check that one off. Cause think we, uh, That next is only 309. I'm not that attached to you. You're only 10 years old. You're only 10 years. I haven't got attached to you at all. You can end up just like your brothers and sisters did.
01:16:17
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and Just a very big Petri dish. Oh, wow. Dark. Dark. It's very dark. um Let's see. Next one. I like this. this is gonna be So this is Bill HB485. We talked about this a little bit in
Baby Olivia Act and Educational Videos
01:16:30
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the past. This is the HB485 is the Baby Olivia Act.
01:16:34
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Yeah. This is... The video they want us they want to pass a bill that I think fourth or fifth graders on up will see this video about conception and babies in the womb and kind of stuff like that. think it was from fifth grade on up. Yeah, pretty sure it is. I thought this article was written terribly by a Well, okay, it's Cleveland.com.
01:16:58
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we Exactly. Like, you think? ah By ah Mary Frances McGowan. You suck. Yeah. So six states have this already, something similar. It says Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, and Kansas, North Dakota, and Tennessee.
01:17:15
Speaker
And ah considering this bill, it's gone through committees. I'm trying to see if it's passed. Oh, it got through a committee vote eight to four.
01:17:28
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it's on to the full house. So we're going to have a bill on this. I thought, but let's hear a little bit. What is this video they keep talking about?
01:17:41
Speaker
Let's get a little bit. Let's meet. oh you're goingnna play the video? Let's meet baby Olivia. Well, I got a clip from it. Okay. So, oh, let me let me just but's start here. Hold on. So part of the problem they're saying with this video, the the the concern to this video is according to, ah the this video makes several claims from the article, make several claims that have been disputed, such as fetal heartbeat being detected at three weeks, according to the American College of obstrtitionists ah Obstetricians and
01:18:14
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guide pannecologists Fetal cardiac development is a gradual process that continues through a pregnancy until the chambers of the heart have been developed, which can take place much later.
01:18:26
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Using the term heartbeat is it inaccurate.
01:18:31
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The next thing is the video also measures pregnancy from conception, which is different from the medical standard of measuring it from the last menstruation period, menstrual period. ah my My favorite quote is,
01:18:43
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While Miller has claimed that the video is scientifically accurate, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists have warned the video is misinformation, in quotes, designed to manipulate the motions of the viewers, end quote.
01:19:00
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I think. Like, that's a bad thing? Like, oh, have you got you have a baby inside you, or, you you know, this is a... this this isn't um This isn't something they show before ah abortion. but i man i guess I guess I misquoted that.
01:19:18
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But ah ah you should like you should have some knowledge that this is life inside of you. Yes. When you call it a fetus, when you call it a ball of cells, you're manipulating the emotions. Exactly. Exactly.
01:19:33
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So don't even give me that crap. Okay. So I want to know what the heck they were talking about. Let me, let me, let me go. i search So I did a quick search on YouTube and there's a website.
01:19:46
Speaker
don't even put it in there. Totally mess up, but there's a ah site. but We'll put the video in the show notes so that we can put it on the blog. But here's a little clip from the video. I want to see what they were talking about. This this is just, Oh, the lies.
01:20:09
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This is Olivia. Though she has yet to greet the outside world, she has already completed an amazing journey.
01:20:22
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This is the moment that life begins. A new human being has come into existence. At fertilization, her gender, ethnicity, hair color, eye color, and countless traits are already determined.
01:20:38
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She begins to implant in the uterus about one week after fertilization. Her cells organize into what we call an embryo. oh At three weeks in one day, just 22 days after fertilization, Olivia's heartbeat can be detected. You can't hear it though, can you?
01:21:00
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Oh, wait.
01:21:03
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Sounds like a heartbeat to me.
01:21:07
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The bugs of her arms and legs appear by four weeks.
01:21:14
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She begins to move between five and six weeks with both spontaneous and reflexive movements. At six weeks from fertilization, her brain activity can be recorded and bone formation begins.
01:21:31
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Yeah, I think they're doing a pretty damn good job at the video. I think that was awful. It should be American, not some British accent. But it puts credibility. I mean, be like, yee-haw, you're pregnant, and we got Olivia coming soon. Come on, meet Olivia. wenna Before you know her, we're to put her some cattle runs.
01:21:51
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ah Yeah, that's my only problem with the video. The video is good. But I think people are going to, you know, maybe give it more credibility because they got a British accent. No, it's British.
01:22:04
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So at the end of the video. yeah Really? More credibility? Sounds smarter with their British accent. Not anymore. You're getting arrested for posting a Comment online.
01:22:15
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Yeah, you wouldn't be able to post this in in England. Definition of retard is British now. Oh, man. Yeah. I'm not even going to go down that rat hole. I did watch some stuff on it over weekend. I'm not going to go down that rat hole.
01:22:32
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Maybe sometime we will. i did I did watch a couple of things on on that. It was pretty enlightening on that whole thing going on over there. Anyway. At the end of the video, they have this little little clip that says, or little screenshot that says, age ages in this video are measured from fertilization, not from the woman's last menstrual period, LMP. LMP generally adds two weeks to age from fertilization.
01:22:59
Speaker
Okay. not Not sure what the problem is. i think it's From conception. Yeah. Fertilization. Okay. Okay. we they say there The video says from from fertilization is when they consider it a pregnancy and doctors look at it from last of.
01:23:18
Speaker
But that's how the doctors look at your when when your due date is, yeah is when your last cycle was. And that could easily be a couple of weeks before that. That's why like I think Cleveland.com sucks because this is definitely a way they're just writing it in a way to mislead you.
01:23:35
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Confuse you. so So you think it's important for kids and girls and even boys to know lot of these facts? Like at at six weeks, they've got brain. you can you can You can measure their brain waves. They got bone structure. They got hands and feet starting at three and four weeks.
01:23:53
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ah They got a heartbeat at two or three weeks. I think it's pretty important to let people know what you're actually doing. what you're What you're taking away, it's not just a clump of freaking cells.
01:24:05
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That's what you call a tumor. it's um Fifth grade is like 10 years old, or is that like 11? 10, 11. When do we ah girls have their sex set or their talk at school? 12?
01:24:18
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Pardon me? 12, 13. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, a video like that's good. Yeah, i don't i don't i don't see i don't I don't see a problem starting earlier because girls can...
01:24:32
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start looking there start with their cycle cycle at 10 at nine. Right. So I mean, you can't, by that time, I guess you can't tell them they came from a stork. You can, but I mean this, the way they, they show this video and again, we have it in the, I'll put it in the ah show notes, but,
01:24:52
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it's It's done pretty well. I mean, it's it's a lot of know CGI and they're showing the inside the womb and the baby when it's got hair and all
Educating Children on Fetal Development
01:24:59
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of this stuff. You know, with all the other propaganda the other side, I don't see anything wrong with this. Take take both sides of it and figure it out yourself.
01:25:06
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No, the video. Yeah, they're going to hear enough of the other side, right? Yeah. So um throughout their life. Especially from their teacher, probably. ah Yeah, maybe not. Well, you know, nowadays you never know. But ah yeah, i watched I watched the whole video. I was like, ah yeah, i think I think this is good. It's done very well. I just don't like the ah the voiceover. The British, yeah. Yeah, i I really don't. I mean, like, send that one to Britain so they figured they understand it.
01:25:32
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and have somebody with a I just don't like that. is it Even as a kid, I didn't like it. i was like, what the hell? Freaking make me feel stupid with this accent.
01:25:45
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So that is going through committees and all this other stuff. Does it pass anything? always I should probably put this in my notes. When I'm doing these, I always forget. You should have the trailer guy in a world. Yes.
01:25:57
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Yeah, or Mike Rowe. Mike Rowe would do it. Yeah. Dirty Jobs guy. ah Yep. That would be good. That's that's what his he's done that for years. Voiceovers. He does that stuff. Well, he did the dead Deadliest Catch. He does all kinds of Discovery stuff.
01:26:11
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So let us let us know what you think about the video once you watch it. Send us a note, crookedrivercast at gmail.com. Like i said, we'll put the video, it'll be in our in the on the blog so you can watch it yourself.
01:26:24
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It's from another group. It's not from the actual group that's doing this live action or something. But it's a it's a good video to watch and you know share it with your kids if you feel the need. i'm I'm thinking I might do that.
01:26:37
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In a world there you see where there's no such thing as a fetus. It's a baby.
01:26:49
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so stop. Think of the children. ah Don't think of the children. Oops, turn this thing off. Hang on.
01:26:57
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but Oh, no, it stopped. Oh, it's stuck. It's stuck.
01:27:05
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Tom, do it. For the children. For the children. Wow, this is so weird. that you japan Tom, come back to us, Tom.
01:27:19
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lock It's locked It's locked up. Uh-oh. Technical difficulties. well Check. you Check. That's better. Okay. Well, that that was bizarre. hit Hit the button a little harder.
01:27:31
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I got it. Smash it. Smash that like button. It's for the children. Hang on. It's for the children. Yeah, I just played that.
01:27:42
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See? For the children. Same thing. Exactly the same thing. ah Subscribe to the
Lorraine's Surveillance Technology
01:27:50
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01:27:53
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01:28:12
Speaker
I don't know, Tom, but I do think your show's pretty good. Whoa. I think we have to change some things.
01:28:21
Speaker
On to our next story. We come out of the corner corner and go into Lorraine Police have approved. police I have police drones, but I think it's more police drones. I think they already have some drones in Lorraine, but maybe not. But they have approved, City Council, more drones.
01:28:41
Speaker
And one of the things that kind of bugged me is they, ah they're trying to use, city council trying to use that the recent ambush where one of those, one of their officers was killed as a,
01:28:55
Speaker
Here's a quote. I would ask anyone who doubts the need for this to listen to the call on social media from dispatch about them calling for the drones and about our police that were out there and desperately trying to save the life of their coworkers, says Councilman Marty Springowski.
01:29:17
Speaker
I should not have a problem with that one. ah and they the call will dissipate any doubt you ever had.
01:29:29
Speaker
So my question is, to his quote, the cops get ambushed. they're they're They're on a dead-end street, if anyone remembers, and they're eating dinner or on lunch break or whatever it is, and some car's there and just starts opening fire. Nobody knows really why. I don't remember why.
01:29:46
Speaker
Seems like ah ah just ah just a trap, but... So it opens fire on these cops. Another one comes another cop comes car comes by. Everybody gets shot, and i think the assailant was killed. and remember correctly.
01:29:58
Speaker
What was the drone going to do?
01:30:03
Speaker
If they called it? I'm trying figure that out in my head.
01:30:08
Speaker
Not sure. Was the drone going to come shoot the assailant? No, they don't have guns. Was it going to pick the guy up and take him to hospital? No, can't do that. not sure what he's trying to pull here, other than just tug on our f freaking heartstrings. To get this passed. um What would.
01:30:23
Speaker
Is this like. This is. Who's trying to prove. Lorraine approves purchase. Yeah. Okay. So it's just like like the council. The city councilman. Yes. the Councilman. Excuse me. Councilwoman. I called her councilman.
01:30:35
Speaker
oh Not that there's a difference. She thinks she's doing something. Yeah. So Marty. ah Mary. I call her Marty too. Sorry. No problem. what what what What are the drones going to do?
01:30:48
Speaker
I have no idea. Nothing except have camera footage of the cops getting shot. I mean, I guess that's something, but. Well, don't they have but ah body cams? They do. Yeah.
01:30:59
Speaker
Yeah. the Good point. So, so again, what were the drones going to do? Nothing. So I'm not sure what kind of crap you're trying to pull, but it doesn't work on me. But apparently worked on drones. Yeah. who worked on this She's just trying to give an excuse or why, but, but she's a lady.
01:31:14
Speaker
Yeah. She doesn't know. Yeah. She, uh, what do you mean, Tom? She's a lady. She know. I've said that enough times. I think, I think I'm pretty clear. He says, um so the, the contract with the flock group is for a lady and a drone. Come on.
01:31:34
Speaker
don' know how to i'm still, I'm going to hang out. I'm going to be hung up on that. Have you ever seen a woman like try to work a drone? No.
01:31:46
Speaker
No, good point. I have not. Okay. But I've seen a woman try to run a, or try to use a ah or remote control car. I've seen a woman try to use a remote for the television.
01:32:00
Speaker
No, you haven't. No, that's under control. They pick it up and then hand it to you and say, turn the TV on. oh So this, they've they've hired ah the flock group. Get back on. Pull us back in.
01:32:13
Speaker
Does she even know what a drone is? is it like, did she maybe misspell it? It's like bone. i don't know. She wants to prove some boners. We're going, we're going the, we're going on a dark path, Tom.
01:32:26
Speaker
non di I think, I think Satan is taking over you and he disguised his voice. Really? i think that's accurate. i don't know.
01:32:40
Speaker
Just waiting. Okay. So the flock group. You can email Tom at. Email us at crookedrivercast at gmail.com, please. um The flock group has a five-year contract with the city of Lorraine for $500,000 to be paid annually installments of $100,000, which is a discounted rate. Isn't that nice of them?
01:33:01
Speaker
Very nice of them. Oh, you know, we should start this. First of all grab your ankles, Lorraine residents. Yeah. They, we will have two stories in here because the morning journal story is locked behind a paywall, possibly for some of you, but not for some others. It depends on how many times you've gone there, maybe or youre whatever. But we also have another one, which i found, which is the Aaron, Aaron and nap unplugged.com, which is this guy,
01:33:32
Speaker
has a tire site dedicated to solely to Lorraine, Lorraine issues. And he put an article up here yesterday with some more of the details. so if you can't get to that Lorraine or you want to look at both, he's he's got a lot of it lot of the details in there too.
01:33:49
Speaker
And you know about what they currently have, and although they don't have drones now, they have ah the flare cameras or whatever they call them, the ALPR cameras, which...
01:34:00
Speaker
which take a picture of every license plate and stores it for a month that passes up the camera in Lorraine. And they've got a bunch of them. I don't try to remember. can't show how many they have.
01:34:13
Speaker
But they... and they oh I found this great book, by the way. It's called 1984. It's all coming true. No, actually... i thought it was fiction. Yeah.
01:34:26
Speaker
I didn't know it was a prediction. but closer Closer to Animal Farm than 1984. and Animal Farm, if I remember, it's been a long time. um they They went into it willingly to the police state where 1984 is done by force.
01:34:40
Speaker
Right. And we're more like Animal Farm. We're just doing it because it's convenient. We're just doing it because nobody's paying attention. That's more like it. and And we have women in council and government.
01:34:54
Speaker
Here you go again. Anti-women, Tom. I'm not anti-women. I love women. i do. i do too. think they have their place. They have their place. They're way too emotional.
01:35:08
Speaker
I think I was trying to find while you're trashing women. um Not trashy women. you know um They had statement. It was probably in the other article.
01:35:21
Speaker
They had a stat of how many license plates they they take every, or they they delete like every, it's like hundreds of thousands. I'm sure. Is it like a, it's a street camera that just. Multiple.
01:35:32
Speaker
Yeah. It just takes a picture. What are you doing this for? You just looking for somebody that's coming through town that might, you know, like, I mean, really, what are you doing? Yeah, it's they're monitoring it and they store it for a month and the thing pops off. They can go back and see where you were, if you drove through Lorraine or not.
01:35:49
Speaker
I mean, yeah, what excuse do they give you for this, to do this? They they tell people that, oh, we're going to find people that are have warrants for the arrest and things like that. It's like, well, that's bullshit.
01:36:01
Speaker
It's safety. It's for the children. For the children. Think of the children. Will somebody please think of the children? I got to use all three of them today.
01:36:12
Speaker
yeah Well, they do. they're therere That it gets by. Those cameras get by because they are at street level. So there's not a whole lot. i don't think you could. I mean, I could stand there and take a picture of everybody's car drives by if I wanted to.
01:36:25
Speaker
Yeah. So there's that's how they kind of get around that. what What this brings up, though, is a couple weeks ago we talked about a bill in Ohio that is going through that will put some restrictions on. Like, if you want to peer into someone's backyard, you need a warrant.
01:36:44
Speaker
Because as it is right now, yeah, you could you could take surveillance from the sidewalk, but you're not allowed to, the is is the cop allowed or investigator allowed to hover above your house with a camera for hours on end? No, there needs to be, can they peer in with a zoom lens into your house through your window?
01:37:01
Speaker
You need a warrant. You a warrant. So that's, there's something going through the state legislature. Yeah, we talked about that last week or a week before. couple weeks ago, yeah. and looked down the bill in here and I didn't. It's from the 26th.
01:37:14
Speaker
Yeah, Ohio bill regulate uses of ah drone uses by police. It's HB 251, which is going through state legislature now, which I think will pass. cause yeah There's going to more of these cities that do this.
01:37:29
Speaker
And he does have a list here in his in this Lorraine County site of what... Lorraine's one of the first, I think, at least in northern Ohio, to have this. So he goes...
01:37:42
Speaker
They operate 12-fought cameras, no drone programs. Amherst is talking about. ah north North Ridgeville, Oberlin, Sheffield Village, Grafton, Lorraine County Sheriff's offices also do not have drones. It's just Lorraine, the city of Lorraine.
01:38:02
Speaker
Only two departments in Lorraine County currently operate drones. So it's not the whole county yet, but I think it's going to get there. And i think i think the kicker to all this,
01:38:14
Speaker
is they're going to have, well, one of them, i should they're going to have a, um so the drones include, I thought this was, the drones include remote piloting.
01:38:25
Speaker
I'm glad at least they put that in there. The whole point of them. Again, Mary. Mary. She's like, oh, we can fly these from somewhere else. Cool.
01:38:36
Speaker
Something about Mary.
01:38:40
Speaker
So drones include remote piloting. Air traffic awareness. Spectator view. Oh, oh, we're good. It's got a mobile app.
01:38:52
Speaker
Let's charge it. Let's charge a yeah ah ticket price for this. Subscribe and share the show. Subscribe and share the jonesone drones channel. That's what you got to do.
01:39:04
Speaker
um Flight logging. Okay. Mission reporting. And my favorite, a community engagement dashboard.
01:39:15
Speaker
So I'm wondering, im think my ve my hit my view is you've got the monitor in front of you, you click dashboard, and you get three options. You get three big buttons that pop up in the dashboard. What can you do with the community dashboard?
01:39:25
Speaker
Here's your options. This is what I'm thinking. Talk, you click talk, click tase, or click take them out. think those would be your options.
01:39:37
Speaker
Community engagement dashboard. Well, good thing they got that. I'm so glad they got a dashboard. Getting their... getting their money's worth out of it. This is going to be, as more women get into positions of authority, we're going to see more and more of this retarded stuff.
01:40:00
Speaker
As we talked last week or after the show last week, a week or so ago, whatever. that stat I pulled up with between Democrats and Republicans state legislatures, like 49.5% of Democrats state, state level legislatures are female. 24% of the GOP are female.
01:40:20
Speaker
Yeah. It says a lot. I mean, it it kind of, kind of to me makes, makes their actions a little more, makes some them, their actions a little more sense to me. It makes a little more sense to me.
01:40:31
Speaker
I think, oh, half them are women. Okay. Yeah. It's very emotional. And not trying to knock them. It's just true. It's the way women are. very much, much more. formal I don't even think it's, well, it's, that's probably the bulk of the problem, but reasoning is another.
01:40:45
Speaker
Right. Yeah. There's no, there's less reasoning and ah more emotion. You know, there's, you can't get past it. And, I don't know. They're tugging on your heartstrings, I'm telling you that much. So like I said, they're trying to get the most of their money because community dashboard, which brings up another point.
01:41:03
Speaker
Most out of their $500,000 that's spent on something that's useless. where are they getting this money from?
01:41:12
Speaker
Come on, take a guess, Tom. Part of it's coming from a levy, from a place levies. What's the other part coming from? Property tax? No, we've talked about this. They keep doing this. More and more cities.
01:41:25
Speaker
Oh, yeah, COVID money. Oh, they they got a little grant from from that? No, it's from the American Recovery Act from Biden. Yeah, yeah,
Use of Recovery Funds for Drones
01:41:32
Speaker
yeah. Just like Cuyahoga County used it further use it to buy land for the new jail, and it's on and on. We keep seeing story after story. It gets all the way to the bottom. They say, oh, yeah, this is COVID money.
01:41:42
Speaker
Can't imagine why there's so much inflation over the last, you know, five years. Yes. I went to five guys the other day. i got a, but don't judge, but I got a double bacon cheeseburger. That was $13, $13.50 for that burger.
01:41:59
Speaker
No fries. I got fries. Got a little fry. It was $13 with the fries. No, that's just the burger. Yeah. That's crazy, man. I got, I got a small fry cause they gave you a lot of f fries. there They're so good.
01:42:11
Speaker
and ah and a milkshake oh wow I'm judging now $29 Tom $29 yeah I wouldn't go there yeah it's for work i can't I hear you but I just so good burgers it's not $30 worth man ridiculous i mean you what you go to a restaurant sit-down restaurant you go to but robin uh what is that burger place red robin or whatever red robin and it's their burgers are 20 bucks yeah yeah that's what i paid for a burger atta at at uh supper uh music box supper club that and part of that is from all the printing of covid money but because nothing says pandemic relief like police drones
01:42:58
Speaker
So that good thing. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks for using that COVID money for police drones. But I do commend this guy, Aaron Knapp for having that whole entire pretty in extensive site from when I looked at all on the rain or rain County.
01:43:18
Speaker
That's great. Micro local. Yeah. That's micro local. That's,
01:43:25
Speaker
All keep moving here because we're um running long. So next we got to get to this one because this is, this is, I got to get
Cleveland Church's Racial Repair Program
01:43:34
Speaker
some good clips in it. But we got a church in Cleveland, a woke church in Cleveland that wants to do some racial repair.
01:43:45
Speaker
So there, this is a I don't know, this is a church full of very guilty white people. It is Cleveland Heights. It is Cleveland Heights. It feels a Presbyterian church or something like that.
01:43:57
Speaker
Probably a few Chinese in there too. And they, oh, you know, well, oh yeah, I do have a question about that. So let's hear a little bit about what, so, okay. So here we have, what's her name? Lorraine.
01:44:09
Speaker
Oh no. No, she's got a great, she's got a great stage name. Natasha Lovelace. love lace If that's your real name, yeah ah she has a problem.
01:44:22
Speaker
She went to school. She's a single mom. No kidding. Gosh, shocker. Single mom going to school. um And she got kind of got in some some financial debt.
01:44:36
Speaker
So to get her bachelor's degree, she is currently $120,000 in debt. Yeah. Bachelors degree. Female.
01:44:49
Speaker
catches the female
01:44:52
Speaker
ah eight years to get it too. Took her eight years to get it. Oh, that tracks. I, uh, it does. You're right. Let's hear from, uh, let's hear a little bit from her. This is from woke church ones. clips It's Sunday at forest Hill church, Presbyterian. I forgot.
01:45:14
Speaker
Let's talk to the idea stream, which is very quiet, very compressed. in Cleveland Heights, and service is just beginning. Natasha Lovelace sits in the midst of the congregation. She sings along to hymns, recites prayers, and she even brought cookies to share after service.
01:45:34
Speaker
She says it's a small show of gratitude for all she owes the church. I'm just blessed that I was chosen to be a part of it. The it Lovelace is referring to is an award from the church's racial repair and restoration task force to pay off $65,000 of her student loans. I ignored my loans. That's not okay. oh Like that's not a healthy way to address your finances.
01:45:58
Speaker
But unfortunately, I think it becomes like a fear. $65,000 and she brought cookies.
01:46:09
Speaker
I'd love to know what, ah do they ever mention what what what she got her a degree in? Good point. Does it have bachelor's degree? Oh, yes, it does it does in this clip. Here, let's finish it. So this but she ignores her loans.
01:46:26
Speaker
That's probably one of the reasons it's on $120,000, because she hasn't paid them for a while, and it just keeps compounding. But how much does a bachelor's degree cost?
01:46:38
Speaker
Where did you go? What school did this? What school charged you a hundred thousand dollars for a bachelor's degree? It says Kent state, right? Yeah. Okay. Kent state then. No, that makes sense. ken they're They're one of their, they're not the most expensive degree.
01:46:52
Speaker
Oh my gosh. a You got a fashion degree? Fashion designer major. right, well, lets let's finish this because this contradictory thing, contradict there's some contradictions here.
01:47:08
Speaker
Let's finish this. For Natasha Lovelace, even though the award doesn't cover the entirety of her loans, she says it's made her remaining debt manageable. Now can move forward in my purpose and feel good about it, you know, and feel like I have control over what I'm doing and not just have this baggage of thousands of dollars hanging over my head. She should some baggage that loan in. She now feels like she can refocus on her dreams of becoming a doctor.
01:47:39
Speaker
Zaria Johnson, IdeaStream Public Media. No, I missed that. I was trying to think of something else snarky to say.
01:47:50
Speaker
Becoming a doctor. Zaria, she can refocus on her dreams of becoming a doctor. So Zaria Johnson, IdeaStream Public Media. So she dreamed by of becoming a doctor via a fashion degree?
01:48:04
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Low IQ. She's going to be fashionable doctor. well she'll She'll never be a doctor. No. well, you know, this tracks with retards. But racist, Tom.
01:48:19
Speaker
Why? but because Because more than 63% of loans loan student loan debt in the United States belongs to women. Okay, if you're in Cleveland and you think you're going to a fashion designer, you're retarded.
01:48:31
Speaker
i do know I do know women that have gone into fashion and they've moved to New York and they're doing fairly well. ah time But in New York, you got to make like 200 grand to have a one bedroom.
01:48:48
Speaker
But black women tend to have a higher, higher levels of debt after graduation and accumulate higher rates of interest during repayment. Maybe because they don't pay it.
01:48:59
Speaker
yeah Maybe, maybe you have higher debt cause you stopped paying it.
Racial Disparities in Student Loan Debt
01:49:03
Speaker
Maybe you have a higher debt cause you have low, low iq And I, yes, because if, I don't know where to, even where to go with this. I'm just going to pick one. You know, if she had, if she had $120,000 and twenty thousand dollars and you know if she was in debt and was going for a medical degree.
01:49:21
Speaker
he should be done yeah You should have your practice going already. don't like who has doctor. She has $120,000 for a fashion degree.
01:49:31
Speaker
fashion degree I don't her as doctor. Fashion designer degree. I don't want her as my doctor. If you can't, if you're not responsible enough to pay your loans back, I don't want you taking care of me as a doctor. Stay the hell away from me.
01:49:42
Speaker
Okay. Let's say her loan was, let's say it's 120 because she hasn't been paying. Let's say it was 65. Is that what she said? What they said? That's what they're paying. So, of it okay. Your plan should have been like, yeah, I want to be a fashion designer. That's my dream, which is a legit dream, but you can't do it in Cleveland. Yeah.
01:50:01
Speaker
it's not ah It's not something that happens in Cleveland. there's no They have a crappy fashion show. I mean, you know, you get these ah designers trying to put on fashion shows here in Cleveland, and it's good for when you're starting out, but you got to get out of town.
01:50:17
Speaker
So there is a very finite number of jobs for this profession, which is ah for me, a reason not to go into it or not to get a degree into it because you're, ah it's going be very hard to get a job.
01:50:28
Speaker
I'm not even sure if you need a degree unless you're getting like, I think a business degree. Well, I, you know, I, I'm stepping out of line. I don't know. All I know is that if I don't mind somebody going for it, if they're talented,
01:50:43
Speaker
Go for it. i think if I think it's retarded to spend $65,000 on it. It should, you know, if it was $10,000, I'd be like, okay. Right. But ah you should be trying to work in that industry while you're going to school, at least, you know.
01:51:00
Speaker
Like, I don't know what her game plan is. She had no game plan. She just thought being a fashion designer was cool. She was told over and over again as she was growing up, you've got to go to college. You've got to go to college. You've got to go to college. And now our kids go to college and they come out and they go, where's my $100,000? I went to college and now I got an no damn job. I got to work at McDonald's or Panera.
01:51:17
Speaker
yeah Maybe that's part of it. But really, but what I'm trying to get to is is this is racist, Tom. It's racist. Somehow, because of their color of their skin, they have higher levels of debt and they accumulate higher rates of interest.
01:51:32
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
01:51:35
Speaker
that's what the decisions That's what the article told me. I'm looking at all' for racist i'm looking at the picture of the congregation there, there the people are in the church. Yeah. It's almost all women. And there's one guy who's about, probably has about the same estrogen level as the women.
01:51:50
Speaker
he't Yeah, he's barely a guy. Yeah. And that's, that's the problem. It's the congregation, 95% white and they're all kind of guilty. So they they all kind of feel like they have some guilt, I guess. Apparently they have to repair. They have to do some race repair. They keep bringing up race repair, race repair, race repair. Faith and racial repair. Oh my goodness.
01:52:11
Speaker
Let's not try to figure out why. more black black women have higher debts and higher interest rates. Let's just give them some cash. That'll fix the problem. because Because she's all saying in this that, oh, i this weight has been lifted off my shoulders and I could just go but You still got 60 grand worth debt. What are you going to about that?
01:52:32
Speaker
I'm going to become a doctor and get a racist. I'm going to become a doctor and put another $100,000 of debt on top of that to become a crappy doctor. $100,000 would be light. A crappy doctor, yes. And...
01:52:43
Speaker
I don't even think you could get your degree for a hundred grand. Probably not. But what about the, then no one mentions the other 60 grand or 40, 55 grand that she has to pay. Is she going ignore that too? Like she did the the other stuff.
01:52:55
Speaker
Although she didn't say what kind of doctor, maybe like a foot doctor or something. Maybe like a, yeah.
01:53:03
Speaker
So they, so how, I know people, who've had $20,000 in debt from student loans in their forty s and they're still paying it off. yeah How long does it take her to pay off $60,000, $55,000?
01:53:16
Speaker
Well, you know, this the loans, because they're government-backed, I guess, or are not government-backed, but because they can't you know they can't file bankruptcy. So these loans are weird. You can file bankruptcy, but not for that.
01:53:28
Speaker
Right. its These are weird loans because if, let's say you have, yeah let's say your payment is $300 month. If you send them more, they don't, they force you to send that same amount the next month, I think. something or Or something like that. Like, you can't, like, send big payments in.
01:53:50
Speaker
They can't pay extra on it or something like that? You can, but then you get, you get there're they're like, oh, he paid extra, so that means he could do this all the time. Something like that. I'm not totally sure. i yo know what Parents with kids with loans, they would know more.
01:54:05
Speaker
It's called shenanigans, Tom. Absolutely. Well, it's called... It's a scam. It's called... Yeah. It's called government getting involved in things that they shouldn't get involved in, which is most everything.
01:54:17
Speaker
So the question I have to wrap this story up is, what if I identify as a black woman? Can I get some cash? Oh, good point. Are they going not do that?
01:54:29
Speaker
I'm going to name myself Destiny. Destiny Lovelace. Oh, nice. That's a pretty name. I'll be in the movies.
01:54:40
Speaker
Which, oh, no. Yeah, never mind. All right, let's get through these last few real quick here. Because they're, you know, the city of Cleveland is ready to say goodbye to the Browns, apparently.
Lakefront Development and Airport Debate
01:54:52
Speaker
oh they're finally ready. Yeah, they, they but last week or so ago, I think it was about a week or so ago, they finally, they had a marathon city council meeting. It was like three hours. Marathon.
01:55:04
Speaker
After figuring out. so I have marathon work days every day. Eight hours. My gosh. I, ah in my opinion, after the city spent three or four hours figuring out what their cut is, in my opinion, now we're good. Right. Because originally the cash was divided in.
01:55:23
Speaker
So let's go back. The city was debating on accepting the offer from the Browns, which is about a total of a hundred million dollars over the, over, not spread, spread out in couple different,
01:55:35
Speaker
piles and stuff like that for different parts. So a lot of it for to tear the stadium down, a lot of it for development, and they want to give some money for community development. So the original cash was divided in two pots. So 25 million for lakefront development paid in 5 million installments, $5 million dollar installments over five years, and then $20 million dollars for the community benefit agreement and paid for over 10 years beginning in 2029.
01:56:04
Speaker
The council has shifted some of the money. Now they want $20 million dollars to go to the lakefront and $25 million dollars to go to neighborhood neighborhoods.
01:56:20
Speaker
I don't know. where Where do you think that extra 5 million is going go?
01:56:25
Speaker
I'm going to get new houses. I'm going to get new cars. yeah Coincidentally, of course, i mean, just in my opinion, allegedly. Yeah. so that's it'll It'll be laundered and in a way we won we'll never see.
01:56:40
Speaker
So and instead of developing a lakefront and having more money to that, they want to pour more money into the neighborhoods that... I mean, wouldn't they benefit from... It seems like ah they were just trying to grab some more cash for themselves. That's what it felt like to me, but it could be wrong.
01:56:56
Speaker
Probably not. um And then next we're going to do, oh yeah. So then they have, so the mayor's coming out. He's very happy. So they can start moving on. They can start developing a lakefront. And then here's a story from news channel five about groups.
01:57:15
Speaker
They want to shut the airport down? Yeah, so a bunch of Lake, Burke Lakefront groups are pushing back and saying, no, you can't close, closing Burke Lake, we'll create a lakefront that is, um ah this is Sherrod, this is Chantel Brown, no, that's not the right one.
01:57:32
Speaker
Chantel. They're saying that closing the airport down, you know, it's, there's aviation schools and air show and all this other stuff that they don't want to see go away.
01:57:50
Speaker
yeah the only thing The only thing that really can't be moved is the air show. The air show. that ah And that's where I'm getting at. And that's the article we have in there is aviation groups are complaining about it. And their biggest, their only point I think they can push on is the air show.
01:58:07
Speaker
That's really the only thing that brings in money to downtown from that airport. beside Yeah, you know, that it's not worth keeping the, well, in my opinion, it's not worth keeping the airport just for the air show.
01:58:17
Speaker
and I don't have a... I personally think closing it down and developing it is a good idea. But the thing is, they never have a actual...
01:58:31
Speaker
plan. Oh, they've had plenty of plans. have Have they? They've had nine different plans. What? i think they've had nine different proposals over the last 25 years. ah Fully, like, I guess, like, is there a model of it?
01:58:46
Speaker
You know? Yeah, they've had multiple different... one We talked about this a while back, and i I know when I looked it up online, there was several... I thought was close to a dozen. ah Different ones and at different degrees. I'm sorry to interrupt, but at different degrees that a lot of them didn't go very far. They were just proposals.
01:59:02
Speaker
But currently they have one going on now that they've gotten $5 million dollars of funding for ah for a group that is to help develop the lakefront. And nothing's happened yet. It's been like a year or two and they've got all this money and they're paying all these people, but nothing's happening.
01:59:18
Speaker
There's no $5 million dollars though. I mean, what is that? But the i I've seen models that include that kind of take over the space of the stadium. But I haven't really seen models of the Burke Lake.
01:59:30
Speaker
No. They have some ideas according to article, but the mayor's That's what I mean. That's what I mean. I mean, if you're going to shut it down, at least have like a solid plan or solid model that you're going to go after or you know, have have some, ah you know if you're going to build that up, have some people that want to be tenants there.
01:59:51
Speaker
It's all great, except the only problem is corruption keeps getting involved, in my opinion. And 90. Well, yeah, I think... It's that's's one of the biggest problems, yeah really. It is the biggest problem. there's not a whole lot they can do about it, I don't think. that The amount of money it cost to move that, just in buying property alone would be... and Whatever happened to like reasonable rerouting 90 to go over like where the mounted police are?
02:00:17
Speaker
Wasn't it supposed to go through that way? It was going to reroute? That was one of the proposals to reroute it more south. I don't know. I just know with property values the way they are, it just it keeps ballooning the product i mean big projects like that. A big part of is buying people out.
02:00:31
Speaker
Yeah. And where are you going to put them? The way the housing market is? I mean, it don't mean. Yeah, but you they got to go somewhere. And that's ah sometimes a problem is they don't.
02:00:42
Speaker
I mean, we already have a ah quote unquote housing shortage as it is. You're going it worse. Just build it right over them. Yeah. it's cool Just yeah. you don't have the air rights, do you? Bridge over them.
02:00:53
Speaker
But yeah, in this article, does in the Bibb article I have from News Channel 5, but they do ask about, you know, they've gotten, Mayor Bibb is saying like 12, a dozen different proposals from all around, from companies all all around the world, but he's not willing to really share any of them right now because he doesn't want to give away. Yeah, because he doesn't have any. Yeah, because they don't actually have anything.
02:01:13
Speaker
And then, and then again, go for you go on to the Burke and it's all kind of tied together. So there's a lot of groups that saying, no, don't, don't close it. I'd say the old, I guess, and again, back the only thing they really have anything to stand on is the air show because air show is pretty cool. And,
02:01:27
Speaker
A nice site for the air show for the people put it on because always better to fly over a lake than it is over people. Sure. No, it it is an awesome site for that. But I mean, if you if you could legitimately develop that, I think it would be worth it ah for the city.
02:01:45
Speaker
Yeah. know i Personally, I don't i don't care. Didn't we talk last week about the cruise line? Was that last week? Can I hold it for next week? We mentioned it last week. Yeah, the cruise line that that had Cleveland as one of the main stops. And they passed up on it. Passed up because there's no place to for it to dock.
02:02:01
Speaker
Yeah. There's one thing right there. Yeah. i mean So this is an opportunity. I hope the Cleveland takes it. um You know, evidence or past would show you that, yeah.
02:02:16
Speaker
That airport isn't exactly ah the most built-up airport. No. Could they just move that? Build another one? No. I mean, if they really wanted to keep something like that?
02:02:28
Speaker
They would shut it down and just rely on, i think it's Lake County Airport, which is... Right. Well, I mean, for for the little... I mean, I'm talking about for an air show. Couldn't you, like... oh Maybe he's like build something up that's kind of like a do dual purpose type of thing.
02:02:44
Speaker
i don't, I mean, I'm sure that would be billions, but. that that would that would That would require thinking outside the box and thinking about other than other things in your own pocket.
02:02:55
Speaker
I'm not sure the city of Cleveland is ready to do that, though. One of the things that Bib did mention was the vertical Aviation, which with with drones, drone taxis coming around, who knows if that'll ever happen, but it sounds like it's going to happen.
02:03:11
Speaker
Drone taxis and that they could actually still develop that area and still have like a vertical airport there for helicopters and things like that. I get it. I mean, all depends on what you want, I guess, for...
02:03:25
Speaker
You want to develop the lakefront or you want to have an airport there? really Someone's got to make up their mind because you can't have both, I don't think. I don't think you can. I don't know Like, if you developed the lakefront like that, are you going to get residents to Cleveland?
02:03:38
Speaker
See, there's there's there's a lot that can go that needs to go into this. I mean, population has declined. They've built all those apartments there. And I don't i don't know. are are people i think people move in, but they move out after a couple of years. It's not like a... yeah
02:03:55
Speaker
Um, I think it was, uh, people were excited about it, but it's I don't, I don't hear people going, oh yeah, i want to move downtown. I would say, i don't know, go, go drive the lake in like February.
02:04:08
Speaker
Well, there's that, there's that too. Yeah. A place you want to But Chicago does it. Right. But do they have housing and stuff right on the lake? Yeah, I guess they do. They have apartments and high rises. I, you can, you can be in a townhouse over there or what, what, uh,
02:04:23
Speaker
what are they called? ah It's not really a townhouse. They're like those old um style, ah kind of like old style town. I forget what they're called. But anyways, you could just walk to the beach, you know?
02:04:35
Speaker
So they have, like people people do live downtown in Chicago. Yep. Cleveland's not so much. No, I kind of lost that battle a while ago. um yeah But i don't know. I'm not sure for half the year if lakefront's where you want to be. But I think, and what I'm only bringing, the reason I it up is that may be a reason that people move in and then be like, oh, get one winter in your own. Oh, i don I don't. Get the hell out of here. I think it's, I think it's partially that. I think the other thing is once you have kids, you're like, ah, I we go to i need a yard. A yard, even a yard.
02:05:09
Speaker
You know, it depends on what, how financially well off you are too. I mean, you could send your kid to private school, but I think a lot of times it's just a school. Yeah. So we'll continue, uh, you know, paying attention and making fun of it as we go.
02:05:27
Speaker
Lastly on our list is one more thing we can have a funny little clip on is, oh, Browns fans are in shock. Oh, Crazy. What are they in shock over?
Browns Fans React to New Ticket Pricing
02:05:37
Speaker
Well, they're in shock because they Browns put out a survey on what ticket prices could possibly be be in the new stadium.
02:05:46
Speaker
And Browns fans are shocked. Let's hear a little bit from um this guy, Rich, that they interviewed on the News Channel 5. Rich, and there's another guy in there from, I think they say who he is. but He's shocked.
02:05:58
Speaker
It's like a money grab or something. Three letters could end this run. P.S.L. The whole thing kind of feels like a money crap, to be honest with you.
02:06:12
Speaker
So what's Rich talking about? PSL stands for personal seat license. That's a one-time fee fans pay to get the right and the obligation to pay for something else. else Season tickets for the same seats year after year. The first PSLs were sold in Charlotte with the Panthers Stadium, Bank of America Stadium. Pam Powell is a sports marketing consultant, part of a team that negotiated with the NFL to make the stadium deal happen. When the PSLs first came out in the early 90s, it was considered a racket. Oh. You know, just a money grab. But it's, they're kind of entrenched now.
02:06:46
Speaker
Oh, so now they're not a money grab. Because they're entrenched. They're not a money grab. Well, they are a money grab, but yeah suckers are suckers. Yeah, that's, and I think the PSL should stand for Pretty Sorry Losers.
02:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't have been entrenched if people just said no. Yes, that's the key. You know how you stop them from happening? Don't buy it. Yeah. I talked to a guy from Buffalo because they got a stadium opening next year and he's he's not buying, he can't spend $20,000 to get a personal seat license for four tickets.
02:07:20
Speaker
That is the most ridiculous. A personal seat license. Spend 20 grand so he can spend another 15 grand on the tickets or whatever it is. Because I mean, all we we did ah I did, a at work one time, we did season tickets for the Browns And I mean, there were good seats. There were 5,000. That was a deal because they were trying to, at towards the beginning of the year, as the year came up, they were starting to, you know, so they kept coming down on their price.
02:07:47
Speaker
But that's still five grand. And that was 15 years ago. So you get and you got to spend X amount of dollars, five, 10, 15 grand. And then you have to buy the this every game.
02:07:59
Speaker
You know, for any Browns fan, well, I'm sorry that you're a Browns fan. But if you're willing to pay these ticket prices and then a PSL on top of it, man, you're just, you're a loser, man. You haven't had a winning team.
02:08:15
Speaker
I mean, like a legitimate team and not, I don't know. Since Kozar was around. Yeah. They've had glimpses. Well, okay. What's a glimpse? Well, no, I mean, they've had blips in the radar, but they've had no consistent. They and they bring this up in the, in the article in the news report that, and we brought up Buffalo. Buffalo's going through this now.
02:08:35
Speaker
And, but Buffalo has a winning team. but they watch they good done they've They've had a, they have a storied career or ah you know they have a They, you know there's history there, man. They're consistently in the mix.
02:08:50
Speaker
Yeah. and When was the last time we were really in the mix? i mean, was a couple of years ago, but that was one little blip in the radar. It wasn't like, you know, like Buffalo's the- Do it two years in row, and then we'll we'll call it a legitimate thing. Exactly.
02:09:03
Speaker
So they, I don't know. I just think it was is pretty funny that the Browns fans were shocked because they they did PSLs with the other stadium. Yeah. were like the second or third stadium to do it.
02:09:15
Speaker
Right. And why do they have PSLs? Because I think that the number they had... was, think Buffalo, was a Buffalo or was it Cleveland Stadium that raised $250 million? dollars Oh, here, the Buffalo Bills have raised about $245 million dollars from PSLs. That all goes to the owner to pay for the stadium that he's paying for. oh So he's trying to- he's not really paying for it. Paying for a portion of it, but yeah. Yeah.
02:09:41
Speaker
I probably not paying for any of it, but then when it all comes down to it, uh, but yeah. And then, so you got to buy a license and, um, you know they're saying, what did they say? Like between, i think the average price would, would be about $4,000. Yeah. And goes from to Oh, yeah.
02:09:58
Speaker
yeah depending on yeah for super vi p stuff so yeah
02:10:06
Speaker
yes What? You're going to $193,000 to see shit. Yes. No, that's just to have the right to buy the tickets to see shit. Yeah, right.
02:10:19
Speaker
So yeah, so the average, they average, General Five average at about ah median price for PSLs is $4,400 or $4,475. So it feels like a money grab, he says. you should The fans that would are willing to pay for these PSLs should just like, or not willing to pay, they should just write a letter to the Browns saying maybe next year.
02:10:40
Speaker
try Try again next year. Yeah. And yeah what the sad thing is they'll sell them. Yeah, of course. I know. i'm I just i sit there and I... I get it. I used to be a longtime Browns fan. I had shed many tears over over the Browns and no more.
02:10:59
Speaker
um but i I stopped being a Browns fan. long i was probably old. Mm-hmm. fourteen fifteen years old
02:11:08
Speaker
I did when, um, see, I don't mind going to a football game. I don't mind going, you know, yeah it i enjoy it, you know, but, and I, I don't want the Browns to do poorly or, you know, I don't have any type of thing like that, but I just, if you're going to pay money or if you're going to ask for that kind of money, you got to put a quality product on the field.
02:11:29
Speaker
ah The only, the only, I guess, green, green, you know, grass is always greener. Let's see if they move off that site. It's always been cursed. i the the The Indians moved and I mean, it helped them, but it didn't get them a championship. well Okay. You know, the the Cleveland had a good run without a championship and that I blame John Hart for that actually.
Cleveland Sports Management History
02:11:53
Speaker
um Just for never going out to get that pitcher. You know, he tried. I blame the rain rain delay in 2016.
02:12:01
Speaker
Oh, well, i'm I'm going back to like 95, 96. Their closest was actually. ah ninety 96? No, six 2016. no twenty sixteen
02:12:10
Speaker
they I don't know, 96, if they would have just gotten. Oh, a strikeout, yeah. about ah If they would have just traded Bartolo Colon for Perez, we would have had a World Series.
02:12:23
Speaker
I mean, a better chance. we were We were looking for lightning in a bottle, but that lineup with the with the legitimate um ah number one,
02:12:35
Speaker
yeah Chuck Nagy was great, but he he wasn't a legitimate, you know. number it was a good three. He was two, three. But you you get, oh what was his name? why do i do i um Perez.
02:12:47
Speaker
He played from Montreal at the time. Oh, yeah, but he went then he went to Boston, didn't he? Yeah, but we could have had him. Oh, yeah, i know. we We had the capability. We had Bartol Cologne in the minors, and they would have they would have given us Perez for Cologne. Yeah.
02:12:59
Speaker
yeah And he didn't want to give up Bartolo Colon. And that guy just turned into a fat pig. Yeah, but I mean, you know, you don't know that. It's like, I don't fault the guy. He made a call. I get it. You know, hindsight's 20-20. You a call. You could have done it. Well, we can, this could be a rant. Yeah. But he made a call during the season where you knew you were going to go to the, at least the playoffs. I mean, you won over a hundred games.
02:13:24
Speaker
And you you could have done a mid-season trade and given up who ah given up a um a minor leaguer for a proven starter who was still very young.
02:13:36
Speaker
You could have kept them for another decade. they wouldn't have. Well, that you could. I mean, I'm saying you could have. I'm not saying you would have. The Indians can't do that.
02:13:47
Speaker
um I understand that, but you could have, you know, you got to go for it when you can.
02:13:55
Speaker
But no, Jen Hart. okay mean, okay. The most incredible lineup I've ever seen in baseball. Yeah. i don't Was there a better, maybe Vizquel, but I think everyone was over 300 that year. Yeah, I think the only one wasn't Vizquel.
02:14:13
Speaker
He may have gotten 300 that year. He might have ended up there. I think i think he was around 280 most of the season, but he might have. I mean, everybody protected everybody in that lineup. It was sick.
02:14:24
Speaker
Yeah. So we'll see see what happens. I'm sure they'll sell out to PSLs and it'll be just fine. And hey, just it'll it'll be a nice new place to have a quarterback controversy like we have every year. Currently having one this right now. Well, if it's not the quarterback, it's the defensive line or the front line, offensive line.
02:14:43
Speaker
No, I think the Browns are on the rolling quarterback controversy every year. They have every couple of years they have. So right now it's right now. Got to get the new guy in. And then when new guy gets in, he wins the first game. He goes, yes, the new guy. And then he loses second three next week. Yeah. Oh, we're back where he started.
02:15:01
Speaker
yeah Well, okay, they're goingnna they're going to lose the jinx of the old place? The curse. The what? The curse? The curse, that's what I'm going with. It may be a a plus because of that.
02:15:12
Speaker
Yeah, okay, just like Chief Wahoo is the curse. yeah Yes, how's that working out? Yeah. All right, on to, well, I mean, I guess, speed on to, can I pick the right one?
Complexities of Lottery Winnings
02:15:25
Speaker
Nope, wrong one.
02:15:33
Speaker
Do we have a problem here, Rob? I tried to guess on which one it was, and I totally guessed wrong. Is there a labeling issue? or Yeah, I did label them.
02:15:46
Speaker
No, I got switch to a different screen. I should know. It's the all bottom left, and I picked the wrong one. I figured after after the first one, I just said, screw it. Just go with it. So good things segment.
02:15:59
Speaker
This is good one. I like this one. So guy guy wins $2 million dollars on a scratch off. A $30 scratch off, which is quite a commitment if you ask me to buy a $30 scratch off. Good for this guy.
02:16:11
Speaker
Yeah, good for this guy. ah he So it's kind of a good good good little story. So he he he he goes to his car, he scratches off. He sees that he thinks he wins and he tries to scan it with his phone and it won't work. And then he goes into the store and they say, yeah, you won, but he didn't believe him.
02:16:27
Speaker
He went to two other stores to have him scan it. yeah it Same thing happened to my, uh, my in-laws. They won, they won a good amount on a lottery ticket. on that's right yeah They didn't understand that they won when they went into the, to the store.
02:16:44
Speaker
So he had a choice of $80,000 a year for 25 years or the cash buyout. And as most, I think most financial people will tell you to take the cash buyout. Cause you don't know if in 20 years you're going to get that 80 grand.
02:16:57
Speaker
You don't know if you're going alive either. That too. Yeah. So he took the cash bailout, cash bailout, cash buyout. So he received out of $2 million. dollars This is the math is just not math in for me, Tom.
02:17:08
Speaker
ah ah So here's the article. The winner decided to go the cash payment. He will receive $728,750 after, this is the article says, after a twenty seven point one two five state and federal income tax state and federal taxes Yeah, whenever you do, it's not only taxes, it's not, there's like another thing two it's always better being because that's It's always less than half.
02:17:33
Speaker
that's Because that's not 27%. Because if you win like $6 million, dollars it's always drops. If you take cash, it drops it down to 3 million plus then taxes. And it's, it's just, a I don't, I don't know exactly how the math works on it, but. Yeah. Where did they get to 27.125%? It's more like Well, that's what, yeah, but I mean, I think it automatically just drops it.
02:17:56
Speaker
It's 60% of the winnings. Right. I'm guessing this 27.5 is misprint or just else? No, no, no, no. it's The other percentage isn't really, ah the rest of that isn't really taxes, I don't think. It's something else.
02:18:11
Speaker
i I forget. it's I think it's all taxes. But I think there's like a gift, like if you get a gift or a bonus, you get taxed at like the highest rate. Yeah, okay. I just think they put the wrong number in there, right?
02:18:22
Speaker
and maybe it's 47%. Okay. twenty sir I don't know. 54%. Yeah. Yeah. That too. 57%. I don't know. i I, when I read I was like, wait a minute. I know, I know I'm not going off a 1 million.
02:18:33
Speaker
Cause that is 27. What they're showing. you're right. You're right. I bet that's what they did. Or maybe if you just, if you just take payment, it cuts it half automatically. Yeah. Or ah yeah when you take ah when you take um cash, it just cuts the winning in half, and then you get taxed on the that.
02:18:52
Speaker
so It's something like that. I think they just got the numbers wrong. I don't think... No, I don't think so. I think... You think because you take the cash bailout, your winning becomes goes from $2 million to $1 million? Yep. don't think that's it. No. Yeah. yeah because you're because Yeah, because they're paying you. They're using interest to pay you if you take it over 25 years.
02:19:11
Speaker
Yeah. it that the the I don't play lottery, but you know, if you pick, if you do pick the numbers and stuff and you win like a hundred million, if you take that, you don't get a hundred million cash. If you take cash, it's not just because of taxes.
02:19:26
Speaker
You get taxed at like 50 some percent margin. You can look at it that way, but you, the taxes are still the 27%. They just don't, they're not going to, they're going to give you cash on what they would have put in the bank. Yeah.
02:19:39
Speaker
to pay you over 30 years or 25 years, whatever it is. Okay. I don't, I don't disagree. I, cause I think if you get, if you get a check like that, you if you get a check like that, you get charged the top tax rate.
02:19:52
Speaker
And that's like over 40, well over 40%, almost 50%. almost fifty percent If you look at the, you know, it'd be interesting to look it up, but no time now. We got to keep moving.
Christmas Festivities in Cleveland
02:20:03
Speaker
okay Christmas lights in Cleveland. i got a little article here. You guys can check it out. If you're looking at going through, look at some Christmas lights. There's some places on here. You can go.
02:20:15
Speaker
Akron zoo. Let's see. Christmas at Kingwood. So they have a lot of places on here where you can go you pay 20 bucks for the car and you can drive through and see bunch of Christmas lights.
02:20:26
Speaker
Place I think I want to go check out is the Deck the Hall at Stan Hewitt or Stan Hewitt, excuse me, in Portage Path in Akron. I've heard it's pretty there and from the picture and article looks really
Lottery Winnings: Scam Perception
02:20:39
Speaker
cool.
02:20:39
Speaker
But that's like an old castle or something. Stan Hewitt. Okay, hang on a second here. I just, I'm sorry. I had to look it up really If you win $100 million in Ohio lad lottery jackpot and choose the cash payout, you would receive an an estimated lump sum of approximately $61 million before taxes, which reduces to roughly $39 million.
02:21:04
Speaker
when you So when you win $2 million, dollars you actually don't win $2 million? dollars Well, unless you take it over 25 years. Another reason why- Because it it it all because they're looking at Like how much they would have been paying you because they keep the cash. So they're, they're also whatever.
02:21:22
Speaker
Yeah. I'm just saying that's how, that's what it is. Scam. Thank you. Kind of, but Hey, here's this winnings. You can have it. You can, you can roll the dice and see if we're going to be here and or you're going to be here in 20 years, or we'll give you a partial payment.
02:21:35
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Another reason not to play it a lot. Um, so yeah, check out, uh, Christmas lights and, uh, see if you, if you got any place you want to go with the kids, that's, that's actually kind of nice.
02:21:47
Speaker
That's always a fun drive on an, if you have a nice, uh, like light snowy day. Yeah. And then, and a lot of places are doing now, we could just, they're setting up like the one for, had the, in there, in the article, there's a video from news this Fox eight news.
02:22:04
Speaker
I think kicking it with Kenny's there. And the one guy talked, I forget which one they're, which one they, interview but one of these places where you know they they they take a bunch of land and make a display out of it he says it's year-round thing it's like by middle summer they're pulling they're starting to unpack stuff and then and they do a um and they do a halloween and as they they they two weeks to put halloween stuff up and as they do that they're putting christmas stuff behind it well yeah they're charging 30 bucks a carload oh i was gonna ask if they're charging to oh yeah yeah oh yeah a lot of these places do
02:22:38
Speaker
they get sponsored, I went to a couple of sponsored by First Energy, i out towards North Ridgeville or something like that, was like 480 in Route 10 or 10 over there, where the turnpike is. And they had, ah it was, you know, it took you 15 minutes to drive through and, you know, kids get kids get to see a whole, kids saw so many lights, they were just, they were done with lights, but halfway through it.
02:23:00
Speaker
You know what? You just dropped out when you said the kids got to see a hole and then dropped out. Yeah, it was weird. That happened the beginning of the show with me. Cloud flare. Yeah. Must be a glitch.
02:23:13
Speaker
um So yeah, they you can go and like we went to a couple times and the kids were just, they were by the time we got through it, they were like, yeah, I've seen enough lights. Can we go home? so But it's a good time to go out and and with these kind of things, yeah, you spend a little bit money, but and you get it get at one and done.
02:23:30
Speaker
Back in the day was when we were kids. we you you You could take a ride through the neighborhood see all the houses. really Not all the houses, but a lot of the houses did a nice display.
02:23:44
Speaker
Yeah, I used to hear of mouth where the good streets were and where where they weren't and stuff. Usually year after year, they would get better and better. Yeah. they still do that There's a lot of streets that day. they they literally like Everybody on the street does it, call the sex Yeah, and then there was also like there was also a couple houses where you where you know if it was a nice drive driving day, you could go see that you knew because
Holiday Decorations and Practicality
02:24:06
Speaker
they did it every year. And then then ah GE did something pretty cool where they were located. at Oh, yeah. so It was down closer to downtown. i just I forget exactly where that was.
02:24:18
Speaker
But um they always did a really nice display, too. Yeah, i know I know. I've been there, too. yeah I can' can't remember the name of it, but. i I went all out this year, Tom. My Christmas decorations for my lights.
02:24:31
Speaker
Cool. Yeah, I opened up the app on my phone, and I changed the two lights on the side of my garage to rotating green and red. Oh, okay. Yeah, crazy.
02:24:43
Speaker
You changed them both to red, though. No, they they alternate. i have I have scenes. I could do festive. I was going to assess if chris ro they say, don't turn on that red light. They go green, red, green, and occasionally yellow or something.
02:24:57
Speaker
But ah yeah, that's as crazy as we go here. i just don't have room to store all that stuff. If people do it, like, I hate the, yeah I'm not a big fan of the inflatable stuff, but when people do their houses up nice, it's it looks great.
02:25:14
Speaker
The one on your parents' street, that's just their every holiday they've got 20 inflatable. Yeah, I don't, I'm not a big fan of those, but. You know, we got a power shortage here. We got a power shortage here. you got all these damn inflatables.
02:25:25
Speaker
One of those is okay. It's just when, when your whole yard is kind of just doesn't look, I don't think it looks great. It's covered. It's just like, I just, I would drive past and go, where do you keep all this stuff? Like how much do you pay every year just to store this? credit You know, the ones that blow me away are the Halloween ones that I'm like, man, do you got like a separate shed just to put this in?
02:25:47
Speaker
Your nine foot, your nine foot skeletons. Yeah. Yeah.
02:25:52
Speaker
So check out the Christmas lights if you're in the in the ah in the area, in the mood to take the kids out or go with the wife on, you know, little little we'll cruise out and seeing some Christmas lights. Get the festive spirit. You can check out the website and you'll see all that fun stuff on there. While you're there, you're checking out the blog. You got all the other stories that we've had. we talked about today that that blog post gets dropped.
02:26:14
Speaker
when the show gets published in a Monday morning. So check it out the website, CrookedRiverCast at CrookedRiverCast.com. Send us email at CrookedRiverCast at gmail.com.
02:26:27
Speaker
And that's show 38, Tom. I appreciate everybody. Appreciate everybody for listening. And we'll talk to you next week. Peace.