Crooked River Cast Show 41

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Speaker: Hello and welcome to the Crooked Rivercast year-end show extravaganza cuisine buffet. This is show 41 and 42, recorded on a day that you're not listening to it, so it's not today, it's some other day.

Speaker: Another year has gone by. Let's discuss.

Speaker: In the morning. In the morning? Is it morning? No, no. Not morning.

Speaker: Not morning. So question is, do I use, do I do i drink the Nulu bourbon whiskey finished in honey barrels or the Jefferson Reserve?

Speaker: All right, we got a dilemma. Yeah. See, I don't have that issue. I got i mean Buffalo Trace, and that's what I'm going with. I kept it simple and cheap. Considering I have the We the People glass folded ice, we're going with the Jefferson for now.

Speaker: Nice. that That makes sense. Hope that came through. how you doing? I'm doing good. Started about a half hour ago, so. Oh, sure.

Speaker: I'm behind. You are. You're going to have to catch up. I wonder why sound in such a good mood. I mean, oh okay. Oh, you so over really? We'll see.

Speaker: So this is, ah this is our year end show, year end show and review holiday show. Oh yeah. By the way, Merry Christmas because, ah we never wish you a Merry Christmas in the last show.

Speaker: Merry Christmas. Hope you had a good Christmas. Is this a, this is the one that's coming up to after Christmas. Yeah, this is our dilemma. like We are horrible. First of all, we're typical men. We don't know, you know, anniversaries, holidays, anything like that. I'm always like, oh yeah.

Speaker: Oh crap. That's, that's, the show's going to be posted when it's Christmas. we I mean, we mentioned Christmas lights, but we did not, did not talk about Christmas. So wish anybody a Merry Christmas thing.

Speaker: Well, I hope everybody got what they asked for. And then some. So this is a holiday show. we're just going to, I figured we'd just go through, you know, what happened this year? What's going to happen? What we think is going to happen next year?

Speaker: And all that kind of stuff. And I'm not sure, i' not sure even where to start, except maybe we start with this. Because we did this, I think, early on.

Speaker: we did a kind of who we are, what, what we're doing kind of show. we could Maybe we can re revisit that a minute, you know, for a few minutes. Why, why are we doing the show? What, why did Crooked River cast?

Speaker: Um, why did it come to be? I have a big ego, Rob. um and i just want people to know I do a show. Obviously. That's why we tell so many people about it.

Speaker: but ah Well, I think at one point we had talked about, I'd always in my back my mind thinking, you know, what a good way to to to keep track of local politics. well What's a good way? How do I get involved? We see so much about the national stage and what's going on in Oregon and California and Florida and Texas.

Speaker: And half the time, I have no idea what's going on in Ohio. And i thought, you know, for a while that Having a show would be a good way to make you pay attention or talking about it or having a reason to, to actually open up your computer or phone and actually go to channel three.com or Fox eight, or, you know, as we often do news channel five, which happens is probably our, our most clipped news station of the year.

Speaker: And, and, you know, I was already thought about doing it. I think, did you call me or did you tell me, did you, were you mentioning it to me or something like that? Is that how it started? Is that how the conversation started? About doing a podcast? Yeah.

Speaker: I think you mentioned it. Well, I think we, you know, we we talked about it probably a couple of years ago, but we didn't really have like an idea. Of what to do.

Speaker: You know, we were like, hey, man, we should do a YouTube or, because, you know, we we talk and we think we're so interesting.

Speaker: definitely do. We definitely do. of And so we talked about it a while ago. And then i it was no agenda. I was like, we should do like a really, ah you know, from Adam talking about like a hyperlocal.

Speaker: ah show and I mentioned it and you had a couple ideas. I had an idea and, you know, i we're i think we're going more along with what you were thinking as far as this show goes.

Speaker: Yes, probably. Yeah, a little bit more. we we we were We were both on the same uh, in the same book, prop but maybe on the same page. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. We were both with with news and culture. What's going on hyperlocal, what's going on. and And I think one of them, wasn't one of the first stories we covered. It was, it was something like 30, 31 new laws being enacted this week.

Speaker: Here's 10 of them. Right. Something like that. What the hell? What are they doing in Columbus? And it was there like all these things. He had no idea. And you never know.

Speaker: You never know what's going on. and But i know I know when someone's freaking out at the city council in BFE, Texas, because it ends up being going viral and you hear about it. hear You hear about the, I mean, you know, you you hear about the, what are they doing? the Yeah, they're doing the. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats.

Speaker: ah In Springfield, which happens to be Ohio, but people outside of Ohio heard about them eating the dogs in Springfield. and That's probably like the only story.

Speaker: ah we We hear everything from Texas, Oregon, California, New York, Washington, California. and illinois and after that florida man don't forget florida man you always hear about florida man well there's florida man but like we don't hear that many like big stories coming from florida not not after dissent is uh you know bailed there weren't that many stories yeah so i mean for me i grew up on talk radio I mean, i i you know, i worked in construction, so AM radio was always on in, you know, in somebody's basement or at the on the job site. There's always, Rush Limbaugh was always on

Speaker: um Who else? Oh, you'd be either Trevisano. Remember Mike Trevisano? Mm-hmm. On WTAM up in Cleveland? Yep. Oh, that guy. Yeah. I wasn't a big fan of his. I thought he was a a really good broadcaster. I think I i do have a ah maybe a ah different way of looking at people. I didn't think Limbaugh was... I didn't really agree. i didn't like him because he I felt like whatever the Republicans ever did, he was...

Speaker: kind of agreeable with it yeahp and ah But I did understand why people liked him and i thought he was a great broadcaster. I think that about... ah Glenn Bex is like that with me too. It's kind of like, I don't, I don't really, i don't really like the way he does his show, but I think he's great. He is great.

Speaker: You know, as far as a broadcaster goes. He's been doing it for 40 plus years, just like, yeah you know, a lot of people. So yeah. And Rush, Rush, you know, it's like anybody else. You, you're not going to like everybody's demeanor and all that stuff.

Speaker: And, and then, so where's talk radio now? This is talk radio. Yeah. Podcasting. Yeah. Podcasting. Joe Rogan has changed the game here. Really? Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Turning what every news organization and channel eight minutes, this three minutes that into three and a half hours. Let's, let's flush it out. You know, let's, let's not soundbite heaven here. It's,

Speaker: He started doing that. Yeah. Well, now that I think about it's kind of like, you know, we we kind of grew up on ah Johnny Carson and David Letterman and Jay Leno and stuff like that. yeah And that's how we heard a lot of things. And then all a sudden, like Howard Stern starts doing this ah it's an interview style that goes for an hour and a half without breaks, you know? Oh, yeah. Stern was doing it, wasn't he?

Speaker: Yeah, he's the one who kind of it going. He doesn't understand podcasting. i so I still think to this point, he did he doesn't really get it, um which I understand because he's like comes from you know he's he's in the 60s. He comes from that old world of broadcasting. Wow, almost lost my voice.

Speaker: Oh, there you go. are yeah Are you all right? Yeah, yeah. Sneezed. I sneezed. And then all of a sudden I went to talk and it was gone. But but ah it's it's changed. And now now you have...

Speaker: real conversations going on, I think. That's a good point. Stern was one of the first because he had the satellite radio, so he had least amount of interruption. he didn't He had no interruptions unless he wanted them. He would go for an hour without a break, and if he was doing an interview, it it could easily go, i you know, I don't know how long his longest interviews were, but he never took a break during the interviews on satellite radio, so they they could go an an hour and a half or two hours probably at times.

Speaker: Yeah, so and that's what it is now. There is no talk radio. It's pretty much, I mean, it's still there. It's terrible, though. and All the talent's doing something different. You know, the real talent. And as I looked through, well, my daughter wanted a CD player, so we we looked at some CD players online, and there's somes with there are some still with, like, the old boombox.

Speaker: Oh, no kidding. Yeah, but they don't have AM. It's only FM. Like, I'm not sure why. I don't, I don't know. Is it, do you save that much money by taking the MF, M, MF?

Speaker: That's a different thing. The AM off the, i don't know, off the chipset, apparently. How, how much, how much? how yeah How much did they save? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine.

Speaker: Yeah, I i don't know. I mean, gosh, I'm going to stammer right through that. i don't know. I have clue, man. i know I don't know either. i just, I mean, I can't, i don't know. I can see them. Well, nobody listens to it, but yeah, but nobody listens to that if I'm either, actually, technically. so But probably less than AM. I would think it's a cost-saving would the only reason. i don't know. It has to be. Otherwise, why would you do it? and And by the way, they they still sell boom boxes.

Speaker: The old school boom boxes. Yeah, that's cool. They even them with tape decks. Are there any are they any good? I'll find out. Yeah, okay. but you know Two speakers with the the bar that goes across and the long ah dial on the on the top with you know with what the radio stations were.

Speaker: Is it also Bluetooth? Yes. So you could stream whatever you have on your phone. Yes. On there. so And a CD player. I would like, yeah, that's actually kind of cool. A rechargeable battery inside that says last three to four hours on 50% volume.

Speaker: I would like to plug a battery in. You could plug a USB battery into it and probably run for a long time. Right. I would like to know if it's loud enough to play in a shop. you know, where you can actually hear it.

Speaker: It's hard to find a good Bluetooth. ah there's There's one Marshall, you know, puts a Marshall amplification. Oh, yeah. they see they have a They have a Bluetooth speaker radio thing. Not radio. I don't know why i said that. It's Bluetooth speaker. Yeah, right. Yeah, they have one that sounds... So cool looking, too.

Speaker: It looks great. It looks like a Marshall. I work with a guy who has one. It's freaking sounds great, but it's also like $279. I'd say it's over $200. Yeah. I've seen them online. I was like, whoa. They do go on sale on Amazon, and I think the lowest price I ever saw was $179, which I was like, I'm not spending that for work. But then when I hear this guy's, you know, when I hear it at work, I'm like, oh, maybe I should. About $100 of that is for Marshall. Yeah.

Speaker: for marshall Yeah, well, that's true, but I went and spent like about 50 bucks for the one I got at work, and it it sounds like crap. I mean, i it sounds like garbage compared to that one.

Speaker: I'm living with it. It's okay, but it's it's got volume, but it doesn't have like the, the bit like if, it just doesn't have the bass, you know.

Speaker: So and after, okay, back off that tangent. So so of talk radio, yeah why we're doing a podcast and bourbon's working its magic. So that's kind of why we just started doing it. and You know, really hearing Adam talk about it on no Agenda for over over and over again, hyperlocal, hyperlocal, you know, let's let's do something.

Speaker: Wow. So let's, I guess but while we're talking about this, how's it going for you, Tom, the show? How's it going? yeah To me, it's way more work than I ever expected it to be.

Speaker: Yeah. yeah you're you're You're pulling most of the weight with picking the stories and kind of organizing it. Work in quotes. It's a lot more reading and and all that kind of stuff. There's more than we originally. I just say, hey, we'll throw some stories up there and talk about them. Like, no, yeah.

Speaker: You got to know that you to know what you're talking about. Otherwise you you're talking for about four seconds and you'd be done. So, so here's here's what, like I would, there's things I would like, but it's time consuming and you know, and we work full time jobs. So like, I would like to have me personally, like the way I'm handling the show is I'm reacting to what you're doing before and during the show.

Speaker: That's kind of like, I feel like that's what my role is, is. And, uh,

Speaker: I would, there's things I would like to do for the show, but I really don't know how to do it without it being a, you know, uh, at least, you know, 10, 15, 20 hours a a week. Yeah.

Speaker: You know? Yeah. It's just more than, I don't spend, I don't spend that much time on the show. I do the editing and then i do a little bit of research on, i read the stories as best as I can or listen to the clips that you have before the show just to have kind of formulate ah an opinion or a,

Speaker: yeah Just something. But I would like to take, i wish I had another 10 hours at least to sit down and write things and do a little bit more investigating.

Speaker: i would like to write, you know, I'm not a joke writer. I'm not a comedian, but I would at least like to kind of jot down some ah funny ha-ha things, you know?

Speaker: Yeah. And that's kind of where I'm at too. It's it's it's just more... It's awesome. I mean, I know so much more about what's going on in my state, in my area. It's, it's, I don't know if that's good, but.

Speaker: Well, I mean, it's good. It's good in a way, but it's also agonizing because you know what, oh you know, you you know, the good and the bad mostly right yeah mostly not the great stuff. um So that's kind of why we started doing it. And, you know, I just, we, when I looked on, when I would go online and look for a podcast like this, or like something that would talk about my county, my state, part of the state, whatever.

Speaker: i just don't think there there really wasn't anything. There's a couple of podcasts, but they're not, i mean, they're radio shows that they're putting in, you know, into a podcast. Yeah.

Speaker: there's ah there's There's news coming, you know, podcasts coming from, are I shouldn't say coming from Ohio, that are about Ohio news, but they try to deliver it like a...

Speaker: a news show. I would rather have a little bit of, uh, banter, I guess. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's, there's today in Ohio, but that's, ah yeah, yeah. But, but they don't really talk that much. They, they, they, they read, they go over the story and then, you know, they probably, they, they whine, they go over the story. it takes three minutes. They whine for two minutes and then they, uh, you know, go over the, what they just talked about and,

Speaker: it's It's a five minute second minute segment, you know, skipped up. They blame Trump and then they, well, okay. That's whining. That's whining and blame Trump. And then, yeah. So that's, uh, and Hey, look at that on an unforeseen segue.

Speaker: Speaking of Trump, one of the first things we had on, on our kind of our, our very loose list of things to talk about today was how's Trump doing?

Speaker: So what's what's your grade? well How do you think Trump's doing? What's ah what's his grade? um I don't have to give him a grade, but you know what I mean. what How do you think he's doing? I'll give you i'll give him a grade. Okay, his first term. I'll give him a grade on his first term, which I give him a C. Okay. Okay, there was he did a horrible job selecting people. Yep.

Speaker: Yeah, in the cabinet. And ah other than that, I was pretty pretty happy with with his... with this term, the second term so far, I'd give him a, going to give him a B. Yeah. I can see that. Yep. B, B plus even maybe depends on how you want to look at it. There's a couple of things I wanted him to do that he hasn't done.

Speaker: and he, he really, he he sort of did it. Hang on. I got it. I got his executive orders all listed here. He did one. It kind of covers what I got, the gripe I have.

Speaker: One of the gripes I have. And he was, it was, I was hoping for a internet bill of rights. Oh. You know, to prevent you know, to prevent, basically for freedom, you know freedom of speech. So you get a doctor talking about a ah a so-called pandemic and he gets banned from YouTube for telling you the truth.

Speaker: and but But it's not going along with the narrative. So i was i was hoping there would be something done about that. And he did sign an executive order that covers that a little bit.

Speaker: forget. It was pretty early on, but it wasn't, you know, you Congress needs to do something too. But it's, um let's say, it's you know, an executive order about freedom for you.

Speaker: I think it was preventing... federal government from and censoring people on, you know, social media, basically.

Speaker: Which is fine. I forget what he called it. I'm looking for it now. There's so many and there's so many executive orders. Yeah, it's not. It's not good. No, it's not good. But it is it is how it's done now until until that somehow falls apart.

Speaker: I mean, you're burying the lead. It's quite obvious that you're trying to hide the fact that he's destroying the White House. ah completely destroyed their White House. All that history and the and the mice and the rats and stuff on the on the on the East Wing.

Speaker: It's gone, Tom. so It's gone. and Never getting it back.

Speaker: i yeah I'm pretty happy with everything. I think there, you know, i have a couple of gripes in that whole, ah oh, restoring freedom. it's It's the third executive order he signed on his first day. Restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship.

Speaker: And you know how it came out in the Twitter files or the X-Files. When, yeah after Elon bought it, he he gave the stuff to, is it Talib? I forget the reporter's name. Matt Talib. Tayab. Tayab. Tayab. Something like that. Yep. That's it. But ah anyways, he gave he gave different things to a couple of different reporters, and one of them was that

Speaker: Facebook and Twitter and, ah in you know, well, Instagram is fit, you know, Facebook, same thing. They were, they were colluding with the government as far as like censoring people came and same with YouTube. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. And they still are, or they still would be if they may still be doing it, just not at the executive level. The government's e quite large. So the other great thing that ah Trump did was get rid of USAID.

Speaker: Yeah, I was going to say he destroyed the White House along with some some other things like USAID, which, holy cow.

Speaker: Right. Was that a, that was huge. Doge was huge. that was That was a huge thing. And while that was happening, I was giving them an a A plus. I was really at the border Doge and the the um well, the yeah, USAID, that's Doge, right?

Speaker: So they were, that was part of, part of, because of what happened. Yeah. Part of what Doge did was expose and close down. Right. Right. You know what? Maybe I'm being, maybe a B plus or a minus even.

Speaker: Cause I'm thinking about what I don't like so far and what I, cause he, he's dismantling the department of education. yeahp You got Doge happened and it's still happening.

Speaker: what did he just do? that He's going to, uh, eliminate snap. there's There's that. I'm starting to break that apart. The stuff that RFK has done, you know, with Maha, with the, with yeah you know you know, the dyes and all that. I think you just announced another another drug companies. A drug that, there was one drug they were talking about, and I forget what it was, but it was $25,000. They knocked it down to, i don't know, I think it was like $2,000?

Speaker: How? o I'm not, no, I'm not asking you how you did it. I'm asking how in the, on this, in this world, can you charge that much more than you really need to? eate And who knows? $2,000 might be overcharging, but.

Speaker: ah Yeah, I, yeah, it's, I think it's a little, yeah, I don't even want to think. But yeah, so there is a lot of that. Well, America pays the premium for the worlds the drugs these companies sell to the whole world.

Speaker: We pay the premium so they can get they can make their money off of us. Because the rest of the world basically has caps on all this stuff. okay Okay. But you know, not to say it's it's not right. I'm not. Yeah. and Yeah. But I mean, okay. We're not going to get into that, but I mean, really think about it. Like, like in something as simple as an inhaler, you know, you can go to Mexico and get it for like $2 and over here it's 150.

Speaker: hundred fifty Yeah, exactly. or more. You know, or, you know, your insurance, your, you know, it might still be out of pocket 65. And I don't even know how much insurance covers, you know, like how much are they paying? You know, Tom, I don't know this Kennedy guy you keep talking about, you know, because of Kennedy, if you, if you really, really want your vaccine, you could still get them.

Speaker: Oh my gosh. That's so bad. Now, if you don't want it, he's not forcing you to take them.

Speaker: Yeah, such a bastard. Yeah. No, so, you know, I agree, and I am, maybe I am, I'm updating the grade to minus. That's at least a B plus, I think.

Speaker: B plus, I think is fair. A minus, maybe. Yeah, that's pretty, it's pretty good. I mean, he came in with a vengeance. He wasn't taking anybody's crap. He learned from probably the best thing that could have happened to this country.

Speaker: was him losing 2020. It him. It prepped him. And he had time to, but you know, filter out who he was going to pick. Yep.

Speaker: You know? ah Yeah, no, I'm i'm i'm probably probably happier and than I realize just because I'm thinking of all the things he's done that I forgot about. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah I think I'm more PO'd at Congress, which is normal. Yeah, do nothing. Do nothing, Republicans. You know, you have all these things that he's doing, but you're not you're not codifying anything.

Speaker: Yep. Yep. All they're doing is whining and crying, but yet still riding the coattails. DEI, gone. was going to say, he destroyed the House and DEI.

Speaker: Are men and women's sports gone? there's so There's, you know, that you we can keep going. i am Actually, maybe... umm little bit more happy than thought.

Speaker: Yeah. There's a lot lot going on. A huge change in in the nation. I think that's a lot to do with him being president. I mean, we did the last show we talked about, what's his name? Caleb Hammer.

Speaker: I think three to five years ago, that guy never would have been... don't think he would have... I think he would have been canceled because he just rips out... You know, he's he's he's ruthless.

Speaker: And we're getting more and more. there's There's been a change. There's been a turn. And I think he was the the catalyst to all that. i think it was happening anyway, but... He wouldn't have been canceled. He just never would have been. Yeah, he never would have made any... Yeah. He would have seen the light of day. Yeah, true.

Speaker: Yeah. So I'd have to agree with that, but a B+. plus I think yeah he's...

Speaker: And he's got to watch out for the economy. I think the the next year is going to be ah pretty pretty interesting far as as what could be coming up in the economy and stuff and stuff like that. I don't know. I think think it's, I don't know. I don't know which, but we'll get into what's coming, but I'm not sure which way to go on that.

Speaker: I'm pretty much on the fence as far as how the economy is going to turn. And I don't know. I have no confidence in the system. Fair. You know, is and and how, what kind of BS they have planned for said system.

Speaker: Well, I think the BS happens in 2028, just like it happened in 2020. Good, yeah. i think Either that or they there or that they don't even want to give it a chance, but I don't think so.

Speaker: You know, things were rigged. And we always think there's like the big bad evil in the background controlling everything.

Speaker: It's not true because they they wouldn't have tried to put him in prison.

Speaker: yeah or I mean, they they tried to put him in prison, which means they they don't have total control of like the voting system and all that. they They knew they were... They knew they could do that once. Yeah, they weren't they knew they couldn't really get away with that.

Speaker: But folks, don't even go go and go to voting machines. Don't even go to ballots or mail in this or anything. All you got to do is you don't to go any farther than a Hunter Biden laptop.

Speaker: If they witness a press, the Hunter Biden laptop, I think it would have been a hugely different outcome. And the this, you know, a lot of people have looked into it and said, yeah, it's probably a 10 or 15%.

Speaker: Could be a 10% swing just from that. Well, did you see what came out two days ago? ah Maybe. Georgia? ah What? fraudulent votes. And biden won that state

Speaker: remember the broken

Speaker: um Yeah, this was in, i you know, a Fulton County. i I forget what county. But, ah yeah. and And this is I think the DOJ put that out. don't know. This isn't like something coming out from you know, some third party. This is coming out from the government, you know, from the candidate on the other side, knowing of all this fraud, you may, let's just say, don't know, crazy thought.

Speaker: You'd call, you'd call the state and you call the attorney general, the governor, whoever at the state and say, Hey, there's tons of fraud. Find me the votes.

Speaker: Maybe you do that. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Hey, there's obvious fraud. can you find the fraud, please? 315,000. thousand three hundred and fifteen thousand he won by eleven 315,000.

Speaker: He won by 11. Yep. Wow. Yeah, crazy stuff, man. So I just, what I'm saying is I don't know if there's always like a i mean, there's a deep state for sure, but I don't think they're always...

Speaker: um I don't think they can always control ah every aspect. Yeah, I don't think they have perfect control. think they can put things in motion and know the outcome is going to be in this direction and it's good enough for what they need.

Speaker: s Shut people down. will get Shut the country down will give us a better chance to win. Stuff like that, I think. Um, let's see What else we going got what's Trump done? Where's the show? Why are we doing the show? Yep. Check those off. Thank you.

Speaker: I guess we can go through how did youio will just, how will state legislature do? Did I put that in there? Yeah. Remember that. Can you read it?

Speaker: i can read it. i just don't know. I didn't, I didn't recognize the handwriting. You don't know. Oh, you're you're not looking at the... No, I am. I just don't i don't remember typing that in the list. I don't remember typing it. Oh, okay. Because I was going to say, what did you mean by that, Tom? Because i obviously didn't type that, but apparently I did.

Speaker: How did the Ohio State Legislature do this year? I'd give them a... Maybe I did type that now that I think it. I'd have to give them a... Man, I want to be... I don't know.

Speaker: A D? C? Maybe C? I don't know. SB1 wasn't so bad. You know, getting getting rid of DA. I mean, they're kind of going along with what federally... c Now that they have cover, now that they have cover, that they're able to do it.

Speaker: You can't give them more than a C. I think there's maybe guys, or not guys, but congressmen in Ohio that are doing good things.

Speaker: Yes. But whether there's a follow-through, yeah, C, D plus, C. I'm thinking property tax or the property tax thing really.

Speaker: I give that a C though. I wouldn't give it more. no no, I'm saying it knocks them down a peg or two because they're not doing anything. They're still trying to kick the can down the road. Give us all these BS bills at band-aids and,

Speaker: um more kind make make the system more complicated. Yeah. yeah Okay. So yeah, that knocks them down. they're they're They're not trying to do what needs to be done on that kind of thing. and that's a big one. that's That's been a big one this year that we've talked about Actually, I'm going, I'm de degrading them down to a D minus.

Speaker: Yeah. Maybe E. No, I'll give them a D. Is it F or E? Yeah. It was E for me, which I never understood. but Right. Maybe it's... ah They got a couple of things right, but maybe it's more of a D. A broken clock's right twice a day, so you can't really. Yeah, blind squirrel finds a nut once in while.

Speaker: Find his own nut every once in a while. Yeah. You know, as expected, that's how they did. Yeah, it's ganger, right? mean, it's Ohio legislature, but. It's still legislatures. It's the same Yeah.

Speaker: b s Actually, I'm thinking it's probably better than I expected them to be. Yeah. You know what? Maybe. Yeah. Only because of the Trump initiative or the or the Trump effect. Because they've gotten, they got cover from Trump.

Speaker: So he yeah he's, he's doing it. They're, they're able to do it and he takes all the heat. So I, well, I think they i should downgrade him to an E then on that. Well, no, I think they did it because they, like again, we've talked about this before. I think there's Congress people that are doing things not because they wanted to, but because they have to, they see the writing on the wall.

Speaker: If they want to stay in politics, they got to do what's happening at the moment, which is basically, well, you know, what what are we calling, um there it's what type of, uh,

Speaker: Oh, see, I'm about to start my second class. that bird um

Speaker: It's but populist movement. Yeah, populist movement. They're following the lead on the coattails. They know what's going to win. they know it Especially in their counties and all that stuff. Yeah, exactly. So do you give them a a better grade because they're realizing that? or Because I don't know if they actually want that.

Speaker: They're just doing it because they want to get reelected. Yeah, and I think they'd go any direction. So no, yeah, they they would go the other way too if they had to, and they don't care.

Speaker: They don't care. Most of them I do. I think there's there's there is a select few, just like Congress, just like Washington, select a select few that care. and it's it's It's such a minority though.

Speaker: They are much more active than I imagined them would. What do you mean? Before getting into this. I just, there' there there's, I mean, we went through a one, the LegiScan website, which was one I was going to bring up that one of some of the things that we learned this year.

Speaker: LegiScan. Let's see. Ohio legislature let's Ohio, yes, right here. Give you a bills, bills this year.

Speaker: Number of bills, number of bills. It just, I mean, it's thousands, it's thousands, hundreds and hundreds. I shouldn't say thousands, hundreds and hundreds of bills have been put through. they They do this every year.

Speaker: And I just never knew. i didn't realize that they were, didn't realize that they worked that much. Even though it's not really work, but. it But why do we need so many bills? i mean Introduced in the 136 assemblies, 1,582 bills this year.

Speaker: and the In this assembly, which is at 25 through 26. That's a two-year period. So far, almost 1,600 bills have been introduced. 608 have been completed.

Speaker: Jesus. Yeah. Oh, man, we got to stop them. On average, they're averaging 23 to 24. They were... That's not... It's 2023 and 2024. They had 2,300 bills.

Speaker: Oh, my God. 2017 and 2018, they had twenty so over 2,600 bills. Why? Why? Why? Exactly. That's what i mean. that I didn't realize they had this many bills just in the state of Ohio. Now, I would have to say... know if this is in their defense or not, but a lot of these bills are...

Speaker: let's name this something else. Let's name that. but's Let's have a day for this. Let's have a day for that. There's a lot of that BS. Shouldn't that just be an executive order, but even cutting it? Well, yeah, but then you can't put your name on it. It's the only, yeah the wine gets the credit.

Speaker: But even if you cut, even if that was half of those, which I but i doubt it's even half, but I bet if even those half, they still had 600 and some bills, 700 bills. like,

Speaker: They're very active little critters. Very, very active little critters. If I was a critter, I would just have one bill and that bill would be to get rid of all bills.

Speaker: Except the good ones. Just which there's probably like three.

Speaker: Kremlins, they're coming back.

Speaker: Yeah, i think ah I think you might be right. No bills allowed. One-page bills only. How's that? One-page bills. That would be fantastic. ah You know what? That might turn into, like, instead of 2,300 bills, you might get 4,600. Yeah, it's true. I could write them quicker. write them. least we read them, though.

Speaker: Yeah, and they have to be in plain English, but you can't you can't really do that. it's No, because if you ever read read ah actual bill, the first three pages is it' it's usually amendments to this code section five one three dash It's law talk. Yeah, it's all lawyers speak because they're mostly lawyers.

Speaker: Yeah, and I mean, they have it has to be done. it just makes it difficult to for the ordinary person to look through all that. yeah It is probably the best use of AI right now. You know Putting it bills in there.

Speaker: Tell it to me like I'm stupid. will you gro that's That's a good way to put it. Yeah. I like that. It's a good start to looking into a bill, but don't trust it. Because i've i've I've gone, what? No, that's not true. When you go back and actually look and it's not.

Speaker: Of course. Use another AI and it's different. Right.

Speaker: Let's see. What else can we do? we We lost a few people this year. We've lost a lot of people this year, but the couple people that ended up on the show, let's see, one in particular would be, let's see, this guy right here.

Speaker: And what you gonna do when Hulkamania and the largest arms in the world run wild on you? Hulk Hogan passed away a month before he was due to be in Cleveland and open his new, uh, his new wrestling league.

Speaker: Right. Right. I forgot about that. Yeah. Made a tribute for him. Sucks. Rick Derringer, we lost. Yep. Rock and roll. Who'd you coo? And of course, uh, the, who could forget because most, some already have Charlie Kirk got his neck blown apart.

Speaker: Yeah. Uh,

Speaker: Yeah, that was a big one. That was one of the biggest stories of the year, probably. That's going to be the biggest story in our of our generation, of our lifetime. what's ah What's your take on this whole Charlie Kirk thing?

Speaker: What do you mean? There's so much b s going on right now with it. Oh, think it's all BS. I think you Tyler Robinson's the killer. Were there are other people involved? Possibly.

Speaker: But he's the one who killed him, and he's the one... i mean, he's the one who pulled the trigger. i don't, I think people are foolish to think it's anything more than a wacko leftist that did this. And I do, i did people help him? Possibly. Did people cover for him somehow? Maybe.

Speaker: But I think there's more people that knew this was going to happen. you know, but it wasn't Israel. No, it wasn't. So it wasn't, it wasn't turning point USA who killed it. No, that is just crazy talk. That's a good way to get clicks.

Speaker: Exactly. Man, that's crazy talk, man. I am going to Arizona on this before the new year. And I pretty, I'm going to look up where they're at. cause they're in Phoenix.

Speaker: Turning point, right? Turning point is. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see if we can stop in there. That's kind of cool. Might be cool to see. I don't know what there is to see there, but I'm sure they have visitors. so So check it out. Might be, I'm sure my dad'd like to go because he's into that kind of stuff. So we'll see. I don't know. man I'm sure they have still a memorial there. i don't know what they're doing for him.

Speaker: um But let's let's remember let remember Charlie with this right here. Spiritual battle. Spiritual battle is coming to the West and the enemies are wokeism or Marxism combining with Islamism to go after what we call the American way of life.

Speaker: And the American way of life is very simple. i want to be able to get married, buy a home, have kids, allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down. Send them to a good school. Have a low-crime neighborhood. Not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, transgender garbage in their school.

Speaker: While also, while also not having them have to hear the Muslim call to prayer five times a day. That's important. We want the American way of life, which is by the way, Christendom.

Speaker: Christians, our sacrifice, our toil, our vision, the outgrowth of the scriptures gave us Western civilization. And this is where I think is a great rallying cry. It doesn't matter if you're Hispanic, doesn't matter if you're Asian, doesn't matter if you're black or white.

Speaker: Everybody, if you are Christian and Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior, these two threats are combining forces to come after us. And it's time that the church stands and rises up against it.

Speaker: God, all that hate he spewed. Wow, he was disgusting. Such hateful rhetoric, he says.

Speaker: So that was a big one. And still kind reeling from I think that's made the biggest impact of my lifetime. That's going to be the biggest biggest impact. Oh, yeah?

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, I can't think of any other event 9-11, I suppose. Yeah. But as far as on the

Speaker: on the, um in politics, that's there's nothing bigger. yeah Yeah. i mean could it he He could have run for president. ah in the future. What did i see something come across? you Oh, I think it was a Tim Pool IRL. Maybe he said something about a secret plan for something about Trump and Charlie being vice president.

Speaker: I didn't read, I didn't read any front into it, but yes, the point was yes. he ever And I think a lot of people knew that he, that's what he was destined for. I don't know. Yeah, I think a lot of this, is all this grifter garbage.

Speaker: I don't know if he was killed for that reason. He was killed because they just didn't like what he said. Yeah, I'm not yeah i'm not saying that. I just, everybody knew he was something something different.

Speaker: Yeah, it was once in a lifetime. Yeah. Like Trump, that's once in a lifetime. you're i mean, whether you like him or not, i don't care. care You're never going to see this again. And I personally, I like it.

Speaker: And I. It's neat. I will miss those comments. The, though his his. Plain speak. but Yeah. Plain speak.

Speaker: His handling of the media. I will miss that. when You know, all that stuff, you know. Yeah, and just for the record, and you already know this. so told We talked about this a hundred times, if if once. But ah Trump is not my cup of tea. Never has been. Never a big fan. Never followed him. Never watched any of his stuff.

Speaker: Didn't read any of his books. Didn't care to even, he's golden gaudy. I didn't even, but wow, was he is he needed? Was he was he needed? it And speaking of Glenn Beck, I do remember, listen a lot, while listen to talk radio. He was on after Rush.

Speaker: And he said, and I'll never forget this. When Obama was elected, he said, this guy is so slick that our next president is going to be somebody who says, somebody gets on TV with a stain in his shirt and says, I farted and I don't care if you know.

Speaker: and Yes. Without the stained shirt, cause that's not Trump style. But if Trump farted, he'd tell you and he wouldn't care. he'd He'd ask you to pull his finger. Yeah, he would. he but He would. He would. And and was he did he nail that?

Speaker: Did he nail that? Whatever. He's just dumb luck, probably. But what a good way to put it. He saw what was... He's good like that. pays attention. So sometimes it's... I think about... Sometimes when we're talking about the show before we record...

Speaker: And it's like, it's really not that hard to predict what's going to happen when you're really paying attention. Yeah, usually the patterns are pretty ah yeah pretty apparent.

Speaker: There's definitely a map that you can trace of what's going to happen, barring nothing. 2020, the election 2020, Trump would have easily won that. Yeah.

Speaker: trump would ah easily won that And I think I remember you, i remember you asking me if, if I think Trump's going to win. I said, yes, barring cheating.

Speaker: Yeah. You know, if they, if they don't cheat, then he wins easily. I think you said something like, well, if they don't, If we don't have a ah pandemic and shut the whole country down, that's what's... As long as that's... Yeah. Well, I couldn't... You're better than Gunnette. I didn't predict that, that's for sure. But, you know, yeah.

Speaker: So, i don't know. Yeah. You have on here, how did Bibb do?

Speaker: you're but You might be surprised with this answer. You know what? to Let me know. Because I was, like, thinking that he... did better than I thought he was ah would. and Like one thing actually. So it's not it's not great.

Speaker: Go ahead. Tell me what you think. Yeah, I'd say, i mean, still not great, but better than i imagined him to do that he would have done. How so? ah Well, I think he handled the Brown situation a little bit better than and I thought they were going to. I thought they were going to drag it out and fight it out. And he actually kind of played it i don't know I don't know. I'm trying to trying to give him too much credit, but he played it decently where he actually got something for the Cleveland, something for the city out of it.

Speaker: Okay. Yeah. It might be mostly, you know, a lot of it may be allegedly part, maybe for a lot of the people in the city instead of that. The the politicians maybe got seen a little bit of that, but he did, he played it ah better than I thought he was going to do. I thought he was going to fight it and try to block it all the way and and just burn the bridge down.

Speaker: um But then again, there also is the fact that I think it's he's kind of the reason they moved in the beginning and in the first place. i think Exactly. yeah Because I'm thinking the exact same thing. but it's He ended it well, but didn't boy, he didn't there didn't need to be an end. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. And I think think for the Browns, it'll probably end up being a a net positive for them because they're going to probably better off where they're at. If Cleveland can do what they want to do, it's a net positive for Cleveland also. It is. It is.

Speaker: If they do what they say they're going to do, i which i i have a hard time. have no confidence. Yes. Yeah. I have no confidence.

Speaker: Oh, we're way too agreeable on this one. we I know we had way too much, way too much evidence to the contrary that they're actually going to do anything on it. Yeah. Until they do something, I just think it's going to be squandered again.

Speaker: What will be there? i don't know. I mean, What's there now? Just lot of empty land. Well, I mean, if if they can develop it and get things, you know, they, okay. Well, last show we talked about a music scene. They want to legislate a music scene. Yeah. Right. You know, put some clubs down there that have live music, real live local original music.

Speaker: You know, make it, make us make a street, a boulevard. Like Nashville's got a couple of sections like this, but give me a street where you can carry your beer from one bar to another bar and go see 10 different bands. They don't have to be original.

Speaker: Oh my gosh. You know, the, that's what you're talking about is the apocalypse right there. They can't do it. They, they don't, there's no vision. I'd like a Broadway, Nashville Broadway here in Cleveland. i A tenth of that, of what they have there. I don't need bars that are three stories high with me a live music on each on each level, like basically three different bars in one bar. They just have a multitude of those there. So just give me a...

Speaker: gime your Develop a section, an entertainment section with 10 bars that all have live music. How about that? You know, i mean... if you if you want to if you really want to create something, but they're not going to create anything. Like...

Speaker: unique that that makes people want to come out. There's the key. And that's what I was going to say it reminds me of ah what ah one of the things they they taught us in Dale Carnegie course. sail Dale Carnegie, what was it about managers or something like that? You have to create an eager want from your employees.

Speaker: You have to get people to want to come downtown. The first step is having some place to go. Second step is it being safe. And we'll get to that because we can talk about, we can review the downtown safety patrol since we're talking about Cleveland. and And they have to make it safe. And then you you got to have something for them to do, which is where the bands come in.

Speaker: But ah what order, I mean, how do you, you know, that's that's not, yeah to their in their defense, it's not an easy thing to do. no No, lot of times it just happens by chance in a lot of cities, I think. i don'm I'm not sure.

Speaker: It's not an easy thing to do, but if there's a slight bit of vision of what you would like, you can do it. It's got to start somewhere.

Speaker: Yeah. I don't know, man. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't want that task. That's for sure. But yeah my biggest thing is they're going to spend... millions on developing a lakefront or billions.

Speaker: Yeah, billions by now. It's just, it's going to be as sad as the rest of Cleveland is. I hope not because if have that beautiful lakefront with all that, like guess we talked about cruise ships.

Speaker: Sure. Like we could take a cruise to the Great Lakes. i i I really still want to do that. it's been ah It's been a couple months since we talked about that. And I still think that would be a cool thing to do. Unfortunately, because our port, our lakefront sucks.

Speaker: There's no place for in the dock. I got to go to another city to do it instead of Cleveland. How great would it be? first How great would it be to... to to dock here in Cleveland, get off your ah your cruise ship there, head over to the Rock and Roll hole ah Hall of Fame, then go to the Science Museum, and then you have a nice district of live entertainment.

Speaker: Yeah. You know, how how cool would that be? Yeah, it would be very cool. have a i Have a lake walk, a lake, you know, like a pier. Yeah, absolutely. yeah I've seen the drawings. They got plenty of, they they can really draw it very well.

Speaker: They can really draw it very well. They just can't build it. They just can't and build it. and then And what this will do, and I think that was one of the,

Speaker: yeah i think that was one of the stories I pulled from our list because tried to save all of our show notes and everything. And yeah those cranes, our Neo-Transit.

Speaker: most unfortunate name for website. Oh, I remember that. Neo, it's Northeast Ohio trans. It has nothing to do with transvestites. Right. Or trannies. What is even trans, like transformation or something? I don't even know.

Speaker: Anyway. So there's an article, it was one of the articles we talked about, and was talking about, you know, all the plans for the Lake Erie. This is actually one where we're talking about the IX Center, talking about the Broad Stadium.

Speaker: um and And a lot of it was how much they they could have done even somewhat correctly. It doesn't have to be perfect in any means, by any means. You will get more tax revenue out of that land than they did previously.

Speaker: if you do it somewhat reasonably correct, where you have people living there and shops and things for people to spend money on, you could actually get more revenue out of that, out of that land.

Speaker: e It's just, you know, it's Cleveland. I'm not sure. i don't, I don't know if they're going to it right. and also I don't know what they've ever done right.

Speaker: i've I have to, when I went to the Music Box Supper Club couple weeks ago, i drove through the flex ah flex through the flats ah real quick.

Speaker: And I do want to go down there and see It looks great. ah yeah I know there's some good restaurants down there, but I i want to see what type of I guess I, um, what type of atmosphere is happening? Like, are people happy? Like, is there an excitement energy there?

Speaker: after Did you, did you shoot a wedding with me at, at shooters or that? ah No, no. I think, and I think, I think it might've been, no, it wasn't you. I did one.

Speaker: And only reason I bring this up is because at the time they were building, we were at shooters. It was so unfortunate. ah the backdrop for the wedding was the flats, but it was just half built buildings.

Speaker: Yeah. All along the river, you know, as you, to the mouth of the Lake Erie. So it's all like all new down there. Right. Yeah. They just basically tore everything down and rebuilt it. on At least on one side, on the on the east side.

Speaker: Yes, on the east The side without shooters. It looks great. I'm just wondering what... I remember there was an energy there in the 90s. Oh, yeah. that would be Thursday night, ladies' night, Tom. Hell, yeah. Well, it was... in this it The energy was incredible.

Speaker: it was And then it moved it then it moved into the warehouse district. like yeah It went from the flats to the warehouse district, and then that was taken over by like you know gangs, I guess.

Speaker: yeah I think we had a couple of shootings, and it I think it just blew up that whole... whole area. So I would like to know what kind of energy is down there. And I i know saying energy is kind of like a little poofy. to It's kind of gay.

Speaker: Yeah, it's kind of gay, but I want to see what if if there's an excitement to want to be there. Because in the 90s, man, that's where you wanted to be. or You're going to meet a girl. you're gonna You're going to dance. You're going to get really, really high and drunk and have a lot of fun. Make sure you take an Uber or take a cab home. Yeah, back then you took a cab home or you had that friend that didn't drink.

Speaker: ah yeah But that never happened. So we drove drunk a lot back then. yeah Well, I mean, it wasn't me. It was my friend who didn't yeah said he didn't drink. And hey, wow i think was i who was I to watch him? what wasn't my turn. I think there's a statute of limitations. i Yeah, I know. I've done it too often. And i I'm not bragging about that. But i mean that was the time, you know. What's more inviting to come downtown than...

Speaker: than to see Officer Vajusi. Remember Officer Vajusi from the downtown safety patrol? Vajusi is awesome. let's Let's hear this. There's some of my favorite clips. that is That could have been such a good name on Police Academy movies. Yeah. it Vajusi. Tackleberry.

Speaker: Tackleberry.

Speaker: Officer Tackleberry. Vajusi. Vajusi Tackleberry. Here's a little reminder of downtown safety patrol. The moment of impact heard in the voices of Cuyahoga Sheriff's deputies. Oh, oh, suspect Nigel Perry died after slamming a Dodge Neon. He was driving into the back of a Range Rover.

Speaker: Perry was trapped in the mangled metal at the Eddy Road exit from I-90. You're going to send ah fire as well. We're going to have fire and get what's happening. The Range Rover Perry. This one too.

Speaker: Well, now they're breaking the story of this high-speed chase. Like something out of a movie. It's not fireworks. Get in there. Get in the car, dude. Go, go. Inside a real chase in December 2024 by the Cuyahoga County Downtown Safety Patrol. A deputy riding shotgun, his rifle literally bouncing out the window. You then see the deputy is holding his rifle in his right hand, the radio in his left. It'll look like a pop. The deputy who's driving clocks the speed at 107 miles an hour, dropping to 97. On the video, a pit maneuver is attempted twice, unsuccessfully. tactic used by police to stop a car by hitting the back end with the cruiser, causing a spin out. You don't hear a supervisor giving approval. Be careful pinning at these high speeds, bro. Here, the deputies make a third go of it, and it doesn't sound like they even called it in. You got it, you got it.

Speaker: You got it. Take him out.

Speaker: The car thereafter crashes into a pole. Vehicle rolled over, vehicle rolled over, vehicle rolled over. The deputies hop out, guns drawn. What they shouted is not allowed on TV.

Speaker: F*** hands, you f*** hands! F*** hands! They were cowboys, yeah for lack of Yeah, guy died, trapped in the car. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah. That's the Vajusi, the one who was kicked out of, i think, Mentor. Got booted from Mentor Police Academy. Get fired. Fired, let go, whatever. yeah he didn't let He just couldn't handle the stress, and he was something, you know, he didn't handle the ah the the stress very well. you know flew off the handle or something like that. And then it was a year on the Cleveland Police Department, then got pushed to the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Department, which runs the Cleveland Safety Patrol, which is now just the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's

Speaker: They renamed it, didn't they? Yeah. Caga County Sheriff's Department make Cleveland safer chasing. What they call it now? Oh, Caga County deputy. No, I thought they renamed it or something.

Speaker: Yeah, they did. it's It's not the Cleveland safety pull up to patrol. It's just like the Caga County safety patrol or something. So yeah, that was, yeah, that and that's what makes you want to come downtown. All right. We have Eric Lessard. We got Mahoney. We got Harris. We got Tackleberry. We got Hightower.

Speaker: listening proctor sweet chuck and but juicy would have oh fit right in there fit right in there and you know what yesterday or was it the day before trump had a press conference with uh talking about the the big pharma drug pricing yeah and there was a woman there and i don't she was wearing i believe everybody go check this out

Speaker: She was wearing, this this happened I think on the 18th. Just go to YouTube White House and look up the 18th presser that Trump is doing.

Speaker: There's a woman wearing like a black leather looking skirt with a red top. She's got short blonde hair, attractive, and high heels.

Speaker: And Callahan from Police Academy. She looks just like her. she oh She looks just like her. Go check it out. You're welcome.

Speaker: I'm looking it up right now. I think you're absolutely right. Holy crap.

Speaker: ah Look at Callahan and look at this woman. And then she has this really a heavy British accent. I think she was. Whoa. Wow. Easy now.

Speaker: Easy now. That's funny. Oh my gosh. Yes. Go check it out. It's worth, it's worth it. That's funny. What were we talking about again? Oh, it's going downtown. Going downtown in, uh,

Speaker: How inviting it is when we've got like people like Officer Vajussi. Vajussi. I just want to keep saying that. thing Vajussi. and Let's see. What else do we you want to talk about? Vajussi.

Speaker: be juicy How did Bibb do? We gave him, yeah, actually, you know, some things that, you know, better than I thought he would do. I mean, he lost a team which he probably didn't need to, but I, if you know what, I give him what did you say about D or d or, okay. You give him a D, which we're only talking about the Browns thing. He did plenty of bad things. I guess the Browns thing is the only thing that maybe can turn out to be.

Speaker: Yeah. turned it around. He pulled, he pulled it from the brink. Yeah. Otherwise he'd, he'd have a failing grade because i mean, can we just talk about, like what did we talk about last show? 4,000 feet of copper wire being stolen from street street lamps in Cleveland.

Speaker: Yeah. How do you, how do you, how do you get away with that? You know, there's there's not many patrols in that area. I'm guessing. I'm guessing.

Speaker: And what else, what else did we talk about this year? couple, I mean, one of the big, one of the biggest things we talked about was tax reform.

Speaker: I want to play this. Hang on a second. All right.

Speaker: crosswalks like these can be found all over Cleveland Heights, a strong representation of the city's LGBTQ community. Now, this crosswalk was recently vandalized, putting a bad taste in the mouths of not only community members, but also city leaders.

Speaker: To even think about that, it hurts because nobody should have to go through that, and we deal with it every day.

Speaker: i just had to play that. They've even played on this show. I don't remember that one. i We did. That was early on. That was our second show. That was our second show. Our second show or second published show.

Speaker: has It was on March 29th, 2025. Whether that's the day we recorded or that's the day it published, I'm not sure. I'm not going to go back and look. I'll probably break something when I do, so I'm not going to do that.

Speaker: Exactly. Because we did do a few couple of shows that we didn't feel were publishable. I'm not sure if that was... Yeah, we did a couple of practice shows. Practice shows, yes. couple of rehearsals. We probably could have... This whole year is a rehearsal. It could have been 38 more rehearsals after that.

Speaker: Yeah. So tax reform was big. We have acts the tax. You have ah an amendment coming through, go sign the amendment. We'll put a ah link in the show notes or whatever we have for the show or go back and look at our other show notes that they're at, they're all over the place. It's called here. It is, does that.

Speaker: Uh, tax reform, Ohio is There it is. XOhioTax.com. That's one of the websites. There's a couple different ah citizens for lobbyists for citizens.com.

Speaker: Yep. Was the other one? Check those out. Go sign the petition. Go find it. got to listen to my own damn device and sign it myself because I haven't yet.

Speaker: Yes. Same here. And get that on a ballot. Don't Don't be scared. all we're doing All we're trying to do is is get the ah the little critters in Columbus to do their damn job and figure it out instead of kicking the can down the road. It's unconstitutional with the way they have it funded.

Speaker: And they're not going to do anything of of any substance unless we make them. And this is the only way to make them because for 20 plus years, they've been giving us just blown smoke up our butts.

Speaker: I'm going to go sign that petition. I'll see you later. Crap. I mean i got to show by myself. I'll do it. and I'll do it. I'll do it the first of the year. Actually. I could, I could probably just talk to myself for at least an hour before noticing that you're gone.

Speaker: Yeah. I think it's you know that's true. That's how I am. I'm, So ah that was a huge one. And then I learned a lot about school funding this year. We talked a lot about school funding.

Speaker: Oh boy, did we. Absolutely messed up it is. And how much they actually carry over from year to year. it was, like I said, the things I know now that I didn't know before this show started is exactly why we started It's because i I felt like I knew what was going on Washington way more than what was going on in Columbus or or even my county or city.

Speaker: And now we know a little bit more and man, I just, it's, it's amazing how much quicker you can get people's eyes to glaze over and when we talk about local issues.

Speaker: True. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Cause it's true. And when they look at you're like, how the heck did you even know that? Oh yeah. I knew, I i knew, I know Lisa. How do i I got no life. I just read the news all day.

Speaker: i do Oh yeah. Did you listen this podcast? Here you go. And then ice clay glaze over a second layer. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're like, ooh.

Speaker: Okay. There are a couple people that have picked it up. It's not bad. I'm sure they're still listening. I hope. um Let's see. Oh, you know what? One of the first news stories we talked about, we still have gotten no answers that I know of. I haven't looked in in a couple months at at least.

Speaker: As far as I know, nobody was fired. was the city of Cleveland was hacked. City of Cleveland courts were hacked. Oh man, I forgot about that. That was one of the first shows. Okay.

Speaker: And the story I pulled and put in the list was was when they actually when Channel 5 actually talked to the guy who claims that he hacked it and gave him proof that he hacked it.

Speaker: And they paid him $4 million. Or million something like that. Yeah. They paid the ransom. think they paid the ransom. I want to say they, uh, let's check me on that, but I'm pretty sure.

Speaker: I think they did from what I, if I thought I remember they paid it, but I could be wrong. But they had to call for help. They had to have DeWine come in and you know, it's, you know, it's, it's pretty bad when you got DeWine to help you out.

Speaker: That's, that's how bad it was in in Cleveland. Yeah. And they but basically it was like their state of Ohio security team that came in and helped them out. I think they went three or four weeks without having computers.

Speaker: You know, what could go wrong?

Speaker: That was, i remember that one. i remember watching, I think it was new channel five reporter going from office to office and nobody had answers. They kept telling her to go to another office. It was pretty fun.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. You know what? We never, there was really never a, uh, no resolution to that. Yeah. Nobody held accountable for sure. Typical. Mm-hmm. Let's see what else. Uh, all right.

Speaker: Bib drops down to a D minus. That's good point. Yeah. Let's see what else we got. Longest government shutdown and history.

Speaker: I wasn't never noticed. Wasn't long enough. lot of people did notice. It happens to be one of my favorite clips of the year.

Speaker: Which, um... When was that from? you you i'm talking You passed a lot of part, a big part of the year up. Oh, oop let me won we rewind back then. No Kings. We had no Kings.

Speaker: but Yeah. That's a good one. um but that was pretty interesting. I'm not sure what they were trying to do. What else do we have? Uh, we had adult toys thrown on the court. That was, that wasn't really local, but that was a national story. Um, we had eight a, a Aryan children.

Speaker: I think it was liquid trans person. Remember that? What about him? ah just Do you remember that? No. I'm just going looking at clips.

Speaker: No, I have.

Speaker: Bring our life experiences to decisions that impacts everyone. I'm proud to serve my community and show others what's possible so that other LGBT people can know that...

Speaker: I played a clip about, crap, what was it? And that person was in it.

Speaker: And then you pulled up the clip and like, no, this is her. It's it he, whatever. Yeah. It's he. Yeah. And this is him This is him. And you're like, oh, cause I was like, he's just some guy or some person. they're like, no, he's an activist. And you pulled up. I do remember that. Yeah. No, actually. Oh, we found out about a jobs, Ohio, that whole scam. Yeah.

Speaker: going through the the list of stories. Let's go back all the way where am I at here?

Speaker: There was that too. What else? That's actually a pretty, pretty new one. That's pretty new. LegiScan. That's a good website. Everybody should check that out.

Speaker: Which one? LegiScan. I was talking about that. Hulk Hogan. remember the... Spotted lantern Oh, yeah. I've seen a few of those around. Yep.

Speaker: I did, too. I think I brought some home from work. Oh, really? oh They attached to the car. my art The parking lot at work was just filled with them.

Speaker: And they just get on your car. They get in the wheel well, and they just go for a ride. you know New, what new, what is this? Oh, yeah, new... what Giraffe, can't think of it I'm looking at the word. New giraffes. We had... We had Kara sig Sedwig.

Speaker: This is awesome. How you i felt like it was important to get on the blower. and talk a little bit about how I'm feeling and wondering how you're feeling about the state of our union. i'm finding myself um pretty scared about a lot of things. Scared about losing my rights as a woman. Scared about losing my right to vote as a woman. oh's Scared about losing autonomy yeah over my body as a woman. Scared of my parents' social security checks. um Scared of food banks running out of food. and

Speaker: not being able to replenish because they're no longer getting federal funding. Boy, she hit the nail on the head on that one. How how are the checks scaring you? You're scared from your parents' Social Security checks?

Speaker: Oh, you're scared that you're not going to get them. Oh, because that's not what you said. You said, I'm scared of checks. I'm trying to figure out how. I labeled that retard of the week. That's right. 531.

Speaker: Oh, Cleveland Heights. Was it? No, East Cleveland's first mayor. the East Cleveland's first mayor? Ended up in jail. Yeah, yeah. That was a good one. Shocker. And then they had two mayors. Oh, yeah. You had the interim that didn't want to leave. Yep. that's it But she's mayor now. She won the election. She won the election, yeah. Right?

Speaker: Yeah. The Cleveland Heights mayor got recalled. Right. He has all kinds of stuff going on. His wife... She's the one that looks like a bulldog that would sit on your bed staring at you while it craps on it. I was kind of wondering if she used to be a he.

Speaker: In some ways, I'm looking at it. She just got arrested or something. or she got she's She's pleaded out for something trespassing or something. ah She was found guilty for trespassing. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't cover if up yeah We should have followed up on it, I thought. But ah yeah, she just got convicted of trespassing.

Speaker: And he was caught going in the law the law department after hours when he said he had no access to the law department after hours. And when they were looking into his wife or something, I was like, oh, come on, man. a Cleveland Heights, baby. Cleveland Heights, yep.

Speaker: um school If you're not vandalizing the the yeah crosswalks, then... Then they don't they don't care what you're doing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the rainbow crosswalks. That's right. What are you clicking over there?

Speaker: wait What? of here I thought I hear clicking over there. thought maybe you're lighting something. Oh, no. thought maybe you were enjoying a cigar. i was but I was thinking about having one, but i yeah. Yeah. I do want one now.

Speaker: Oh, shit. See? Yeah, well.

Speaker: Too bad you can't. Or you could, but whatever. No Kings. There we are. at the No Kings now. There was a couple. What month was that? So No Kings and ah was June.

Speaker: Oh, okay. All right. I mean, in that time, June 21st is the recording date that I have in the show notes. So it's in and around that time, probably you the week before. Yeah. You have all the, uh, clips. I didn't have any for that.

Speaker: I'm looking through my notes here. don't know there was many good clips from No Kings, but. Not from, ah not from Ohio. That was the, that was a problem because Ohio didn't, I think it was a boomer rally. That's, that's all it was. Oh, it definitely was. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: There wasn't much happening in Ohio. There was there was plenty of funny clips nationwide. Yeah. But ah from from Cleveland and from Ohio, there wasn't too much. do have Pardon me?

Speaker: I do have a couple, but i don't think there were anything. They weren't that great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, worth pulling it. hey was It was a dud. And it rained one day. I felt so bad for them.

Speaker: And then the second one was even worse. But, Tom, it was like the largest protest ever. no Okay. It's funny.

Speaker: Let's see. What else do we have? We had some... Anything of note. i mean... bunch of marijuana stuff. bunch of marijuana stuff. Yeah, you know, they didn't know where the money was going. They still don't know where the money... I mean, they know where it's going. I mean, we know it's going to the state. It's just not getting to municipalities.

Speaker: Yeah, or to the... to the localities where the dispensaries are. The ones who were promised to cut of it. yeah Right. Right. like did whole bunch of legislation on the rec recreational side of it.

Speaker: And then, and then when I hear the other day, Trump, ah Trump signs executive order to encourage the reclassification of marijuana federally from class one class three. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, that'll get away a lot of that. well Decriminalize it, basically. it it's um What it does is legitimize the research yeah that they want to do for for ah medical use. And now you need like special approval to get, because it's basically worse than cocaine.

Speaker: or Scheduled higher than... Well, it's scheduled the same as cocaine and heroin, which is ridiculous. yeah's It's ridiculous, yeah. has nothing to do with the fact that hemp is better than paper. Oh, I heard. That's all the hippies tell me.

Speaker: I have a couple of hemp t-shirts. I do have one from Hawaii. And they don't fall apart. Oh, that's, yeah. They don't fall apart.

Speaker: Oh, there's some protests in Cincinnati on the bridge there. People got thrashed. Yeah. It was, you know, there's a lot.

Speaker: at at At times we're like, wow, well what are we going to cover? And then all of a sudden we've got too much to cover. And that's kind of probably all about Cleveland Heights. It's actually quite difficult to to but circle back as as someone um would once said to ah to to get on things because there's a lot lot of moving, fast moving parts and stuff like that.

Speaker: The show has evolved since we started. Sure. Which, I mean, I'm good with that. ah I think we kind of started out a little bit more hyper local, and now we're kind of covering more of Ohio.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, I think local, hyper, hyper, if you're talking about your city. Well, we were, okay, we covered like the Cleveland Heights thing. i don't know if we would do that at at this point.

Speaker: Even though those are those were fun stories to talk about. Maybe. I might have only because there's video of the mayor going into the law office in the middle the night. That might have spurred me to look at Yeah, okay. All right.

Speaker: But other than that, no, you're right. If it was a normal, because there's a couple of things I've passed up similar to that. But that that one in particular, if you've got a video of the mayor going into the where he's not supposed to go in the middle of the night, with and of most cities would probably be.

Speaker: You know, the other thing about. At least put list for a possible story. You know, the other thing about that story was that what made it unique was the left eating their own.

Speaker: Yeah. yeah The mayor was definitely a, like a DEI vote, voting guy. And they what turned on them, which was surprising.

Speaker: Yes. Kind of surprising. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, the thing is we don't forget like the thing that I, I kind of found was that a tranny turned him in.

Speaker: ah that's right. Yep. So it was, it was a bizarre, like cause like his wife was yelling at her. Yeah. Was saying something to her, you know, like him, I don't remember what it was. Yeah. Whatever. Whatever you whatever you want to call them.

Speaker: Yes. Them is about the appropriate thing. Yeah. I was watching that Caleb one in and one guy kept calling. Well, my daughter's a day. They don't, she doesn't know.

Speaker: He was like, he's trying to have a conversation and he's like talking about they and it i'm I'm trying to follow along. I'm like, Is he talking about the daughter or like the whole family? I can't tell. Really, you're breaking English. You broke it.

Speaker: English is broken. Yes. Thanks. Speaking of that, we have some LGBTQ. Great segue, Tom. um just That was very professional. Okay. We have some LGBTQIA plus one, two, three, X, Y, z They're trying to put a ballot initiative in for a constitutional amendment.

Speaker: to codify or to reverse basically the gay marriage or the, the amendment that we have in the constitution that states the marriage between a man and a woman. And they tried to get it that in encompassed with basically you can't discriminate.

Speaker: And I mean, you, you can't treat anybody differently or anything. basically I mean, like, Oh, you know, women's rights and gay rights. And then it was like, familiar rights and disability rights and recovery rights. And it's like, Holy cow. It was just, so that's coming up actually on the ballot. That might be on the ballot too. I'm thinking the marriage one will probably get on, but I don't think the LGBTQ one, the, uh,

Speaker: the right, the protecting of, you know, basically they want to make sure that you can transition your kid or go into a woman's bathroom if you're a dude in a dress and stuff. So we'll see, see how that goes. We've got to keep an eye on that. That'll be coming up along with the ah property tax thing.

Speaker: But if they get enough signatures, each needs to get like five, 600,000 signatures for any one of those. I think that's about the the going total right now. 450,000 say, and then they something like that they usually should get more, you know, 10 or 20% more than they need because some get thrown out.

Speaker: um So there was that. Let's see what else we had. we Remember the aerial saw? Oh, that thing is awesome.

Speaker: Yeah, we were taking a walk in the ah metro parks the other day, and i'm like, I stopped. You know, there's power lines going through. And he looked at the tree line. It was perfect all the way down. I just looked at my wife and said, I think it's badass.

Speaker: She's like, what? I go, the aerial saw. You think they'd use that around here? Yeah. Yeah? Okay, that's that's cool. I know for a fact they do, actually. Oh, okay. That's good, because I've never seen it. I mean, not that I drive through those parkways looking for that, but... Yeah. One day I'll see it, and I'll stop in the middle of road and be like, look, there's the aerial saw.

Speaker: probably won't, but... Those are... It is cool. i I want a helicopter and a saw. Well, yeah. and So if anyone doesn't, so they hook this, they hook this thing up to a helicopter and it's, I think they said 15 to 20. No, it was like a dozen 20 inch blades, saw blades on it. Yeah. that's And then they drag it, they they fly it along where the power lines go through forest areas so they can trim the, from the tree the branches. was like, just imagine like a chainsaw bar, a bar from a chainsaw just going down perfectly along with the power lines.

Speaker: Like a hundred feet long. Yes. Pruning. 150 feet long. Pruning the, uh, the trees. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful site. It saves lives. Saves lives, Tom. Well, yeah, it does. Really. Saves, saves, uh, lot of labor.

Speaker: It saves lives. Well, I mean. and Okay, we can go into another discussion. Say, you know, you could get hit by a tree limb with, you know, because normally they would have to climb the tree or do something like to cut the limb and stuff, you know, so.

Speaker: Guy falls the tree and dies. Well, you know what they were doing around my house, like in in my front yard, I have some, you know, power lines going down the street. And so they're pruning the tree. Yeah.

Speaker: The trees that I have in my front yard. And the guy's on a bucket. Yeah. You know, ah like a utility ah bucket with a lot, like a pole saw trimming trees. Yeah. Basically where they can, that's where they use it. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. It was okay. I mean, he did an awful job. We learned the city of Cleveland took, let me see if I can find it here.

Speaker: They transformed a house into food art.

Speaker: and ah At a cost of $364,000 funded from the $3 million dollars through the Cleveland's Transformative Art Fund. how I remember that. kind They've got 70 streetlights out in Cleveland because people are stealing the copper.

Speaker: But they've got a $3 million dollars transformative art fund. Wasn't it like mushrooms growing on something? So yes, they took the house and used it as food for the mushrooms. and the Mushrooms were the art.

Speaker: Yep. So I said, uh, Maurer Maurer mushroom based process can turn a vacant house into a sculpture.

Speaker: We, uh, can we fully recycle a house? Question mark. Is that the next step we want to go? Question mark. And we believe, and I believe it is. And for that, can we scale that up to the level that could do hundreds of houses?

Speaker: City of Cleveland. Okay. It goes down to like an E now. Yeah, it's an E minus. point E minus. cause Is that a thing? That is a thing.

Speaker: Let's see. What else can we wrap up? a couple Last couple of things here. ah Oh.

Speaker: I got a list of good things for this year. Oh, good. The yeah claw is gone. The claw. Claw is gone.

Speaker: What's claw? You don't remember claw? The Cleveland Leather Annual Weekly? You never put that in the good things section. I thought it should have been. did, and now I have. It's in the good things now. They're gone. They're not there anymore. yes, yes. Cleveland Leather Annual Weekly was an event where guys wore lots of leather, and they had some problems.

Speaker: They got pooped. They had some major malfunctions and a pipe actually did burst unlike in Atlanta during the 2020 election. And this time, apparently, as you reminded me, i remember in the story, reminded me at one hotel, the the pipe burst in the above the room they were in and they had the event in and apparently all got sprayed with poopy water.

Speaker: But the hotel took their security deposit like 50 grand and kept it because they blamed the guests on the clog, which made the pipe burst, which I'm still kind of like scratching my head on, ah because they claimed that they were throwing ah adult toys into the bath, into the toilet and flushing it.

Speaker: This adult toy is not good. I'm going to flush it down the toilet. Yeah. i I called shenanigans on that because, you know, those things aren't cheap. I just have a feeling there were so many rubbers down the yeah toilet. That might be the thing. There might have been a lot of other things in that toilet.

Speaker: Oh, God. So then it got worse. But then it got worse, remember? got to disinfect my mouth. Wait.

Speaker: Oh, okay. That's good. That's good. That's a good disinfectant, huh? Yeah. But then it got worse, remember? Because then they moved they moved to another hotel.

Speaker: or they i can't remember. They went to California maybe or something. and

Speaker: Trying to find it. What they used they used to call what this event that they did. they used to do it off-site, which is basically just, you know, it's just an orgy. It's basically what it was. Yeah, where can I where can i put my dick?

Speaker: Yeah, that's what it was. And they usually had that off-site, you know, because, you know. But in this case, they decided to do it in the hotel conference room.

Speaker: and And members of the staff walked in on him. That's right. And got kicked out. So they got a bad reputation is basically what that is. that was at the Marriott. Marriott, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. So they are Columbus or bust. Unintended. Uh, they're going to Columbus now. So at least they can keep their claw name. a Otherwise it, you know, if they went to Denver, Detroit had to be the law.

Speaker: That would just be weird. So they kept it. They had only BC names. Yeah. They're not in Cleveland anymore. Nope. So I need a cheering, uh, sound effect. There

Speaker: I don't mind that they were here. I mind that they were. ah Yeah. Well, okay. Let's go there. Yeah. Let's not to go there. So one of the other things I pulled was the WG Mathers turned 100, that boat that sits downtown on the lakefront.

Speaker: And now that now that now they're thinking they have to move it because if they redo the lakefront, they're probably going have it in a different spot. So that might be floating or ah moving again sometime soon. And, um, and final, ah final of the good things would be, you know, and actually I'm, I'm really out of place here. just,

Speaker: Bernie Kosar still alive. Yeah. I heard he just got out of the hospital again. Yeah. He's, yeah he's not doing great, but he's, he's hanging in there. And he had the liver transplant, had the ah the kid who passed away, and his mom and his parents decided to donate a part of his liver for Bernie, because I don't think he was going to get one either way. because He was in such bad health.

Speaker: But I, ah you know, I totally forgot to bring up the snap. One my favorite clips of the year.

Speaker: ah Well, you know, do you remember the snap clips?

Speaker: A little bit. yeah It wasn't that long ago. Let's here and let's hear this one. So I followed up with her Friday. She told me her SNAP benefits have returned, albeit $3 short of her usual $63. But that is not what surprised her the most. A lot of people reached out to us.

Speaker: They were worried about you. What does that mean to you? Wait for it. Oh my God, I know. But I know now.

Speaker: People in the world today, they show love. But the ones are in poverty. Now that Diane works for CMHA,

Speaker: now diane works for cmma

Speaker: who ah who has like volunteers for three different boards and groups and stuff, but yet she she ain't got time for a job. She got time to take SNAP benefits at a whopping 63 bucks a month.

Speaker: Yeah, I was telling you, those are of my favorite clips. She was ah an activist. She wasn't a real person. Yeah, she was totally. And oh, it's so hard.

Speaker: Oh my gosh. Yeah, you're right. You're crazy. You're crazy. That was funny. And now that's why I bring that clip up is because like, she didn't know. so oh, it's so sweet.

Speaker: Oh, people are worried about you. Oh, no, they weren't. But I have to say, man, you okay? Yeah. right. Don't you need to need a tissue or something?

Speaker: No, I'm good. I know it's heartbreaking and all. I need to pour me another. Pour me. Pour. Pour me. But my ultimate favorite clip of the year.

Speaker: Remember when when the reporter went around asking if people knew who Amy Acton was? And we got this gem. No, actually, I don't remember that. you Oh, you don't remember that? We got this gem. I don't. You don't remember this gem right here?

Speaker: Hey, what you gotta do? I did it anyway. remember that. I did it anyway. I did it anyway. You still did it. Where did it go? Oh, did I not pull it? Uh-oh. Oh, well, like maybe I didn't pull it. Oh, going to have to get it now.

Speaker: ah because it should be in my ah my little thing here. Let me check real quick.

Speaker: Yeah, what happened to it? Oh, here it is. it's That's why it's and it's all the way up top. It's the first one here. and Here we go. all right. Remember, my ultimate favorite clip of the year. So the reporter went around and said, know who Amy Acton is? And this guy went, Yeah, she helped us when we had the pandemic going on. She was like the greatest thing we had in Ohio. Yeah, it was like the greatest thing we had in Ohio.

Speaker: That was a good one. That was the best clip of the year right there. That was a really good one, yeah. That was a good one. i got he's He's in the rotation. He's totally in the rotation here. he's right the they gave They bought him a sandwich or something.

Speaker: Like the greatest thing we had in Ohio. that's the He's right there. I got him in the rotation.

Speaker: And...

Speaker: Well, that's that was the ah that was that was the year. that was It was quite quite interesting. hey Hang on a second. Here's one. As far as I'm concerned, you randomly kidnapping folk and you throwing them out of the country against their civil rights, against their constitutional rights. And frankly, how would they feel if some other country decided that they were going to just start throwing people randomly in our country? chair Wait, what?

Speaker: Say what? Jasmine Crockett. Oh, oh man. don't

Speaker: even know what to say to that. ah Here, check the the difference. I think I just choked on my own spit. Have a burr. When i first announced my run for Congress, I had this random white woman, liberal, walk up to me and ask,

Speaker: well, what about you isn't Democrat? To which I responded, well, besides my skin color, what about me is Democrat? And it was at that very moment that she realized that God gave her enough common sense to ask me about my values. Now, don't get me wrong. I was raised to vote Democrat down the ballot. So when I first started, I would say things like, I'm a Republican, but I'm not a conservative. But now I know all too well, I am a full-fledged, hardcore conservative, and I'm proud of it. I mean, my favorite saying is I was born black, not Democrat.

Speaker: But in all seriousness, whenever I began to think for myself politically, the choice was easy. I mean, why would I want to belong to a party whose mission is to infringe on the Second Amendment as if a criminal would ever participate in something like a mandatory buyback?

Speaker: Why would I want to belong to and endorse? a godless party because there is no such thing. And I mean, no such thing as a trans child. We have confused children and sick enabling adults.

Speaker: Why would I want to belong to a party that takes pride in shedding innocent blood? Number one is if that's not what God hates. Number two is if there's not a black market for baby organs. And number three, as if abortion clinics didn't start in the hood. Give me a hell yeah.

Speaker: Hell yeah. Who is that? Peyton Jackson from Texas. She, the legislature? She was, ah she was running for, ah she is running for Congress.

Speaker: Okay. Yeah, representative. And I just, from the same state, two different black women running for Congress. For Republicans? Yeah.

Speaker: Well, we had Jasmine Crockett for a Democrat and we had Peyton Jackson. Oh, who was a Democrat. It was a clip that clipped a long time ago, back in May of 2025.

Speaker: And i never played we we never played it. Man, she's awesome. Yeah, we should keep an eye on hers. That sounds awesome. ah There's like another almost two minutes to that clip. She keeps going.

Speaker: let's ah Speaking of keeping going. Yeah, guess. Transform. This verb so good enough. Let's move on to what's coming next year.

Speaker: Oh. What's coming next year? And actually, we need to. Oh, crap. Hang on. Take a break for a second. Okay. Okay.

Speaker: And that was show 41. really appreciate you listening. Hope everybody has Merry Christmas. Have a Happy New Year's. Please be safe. Drink responsibly. Kind of like we were, you know, drinking responsibly while in front of a microphone.

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Speaker: Peace.